The House Is Voting for Speaker; Johnson Looks Likely to Lose

Chip Roy refused to vote for Johnson, Andy Biggs didn't vote, and Thomas Massie voted for Tom Emmer.

Update: Another Republican has voted against Johnson, instead voting for Jim Jordan.

I think that's it. I don't think we can lose four votes, and we lost them.

Update: It's worse than that -- the Republican majority is so thin we can only lose one single Representative's vote.

According to Nick Sortor, I'm right, the Republicans cannot agree on a Speaker. Johnson loses and there is no other known candidate who can win.

I'm not sure what happens if they don't elect a Speaker. I assume there will be further balloting, but if the Perpetual No Caucus keeps voting "no," then there is no Speaker, Congress can't act, and Congress can't certify Trump and Vance's victory.

Update: Thanks to TheJamesMadison, this article claims it's not true that Congress can't act -- or certify the president -- in the absence of a Speaker.

It says someone can take over as acting speaker.

As potentially extended battles to elect new speakers of the House of Representatives become more frequent, a common fear is repeatedly expressed in the national news media that the chamber cannot act until the new speaker is chosen.
An Oct. 4, 2023, headline in the Washington Post, for example, succinctly captured the fear, proclaiming "The House Can't Function Without a Speaker."
More recently, a USA Today news report on Speaker Mike Johnson's (R-La.) prospects for keeping the gavel in the 119th Congress included the declaration that "members can't tackle any other business until someone is chosen."
The lower chamber in the 119th Congress can function without a speaker and has done so as recently as October 2023, when former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) was removed by conservative rebels led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.).
Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) presided over the House as acting speaker while the House Republican Conference struggled before finally settling on Johnson to replace McCarthy.

The House convened at noon today for the first meeting of the new Legislature. The election of a speaker, the swearing-in of members, and the adoption of rules under which the chamber will operate are the first orders of business.
Fears that Johnson may be unable to keep the gavel are justified, thanks to the narrow Republican majority of 219--215. If all 435 members are present and voting, Johnson cannot afford to lose more than one vote.

But here's the thing: If Trump is only certified under an "acting speaker," the left will go back insisting he is an Illegitimate Usurper and it's 2016 #ResistanceReborn again.

Can we just not fuck around to grandstand for once?

Trust me, I want a different Speaker of the House as much as the next MAGA.

Mike Johnson has been nothing but a disappointment.

However he's got Trump's endorsement and do Thomas Massie or Chip Roy have any plan on who'd they replace him with?

If not, then stop grandstanding. pic.twitter.com/s0huUi9Cki
— Gays For Trump (@GaysForTrump24) January 3, 2025

U.S. Virgin Islands Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D) loses her mind on the House Floor after she and other non-voting delegates are not allowed to vote for House Speaker because they represent territories, not states

She had to have the rules explained to her and she was not happy pic.twitter.com/KvXx3YGT02
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) January 3, 2025

Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.
pic.twitter.com/lSIW3KzOXZ
— Jack (@jackunheard) January 3, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 02:25 PM

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1 First

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 03, 2025 02:25 PM (MsrgL)

2 Ugh

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)

3 Second

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 03, 2025 02:25 PM (MsrgL)

4 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 03, 2025 02:25 PM (w3u3d)

5 Idiots = GOP

Posted by: Jmel at January 03, 2025 02:26 PM (bVhJi)

6 They don't call the GOP the Stupid Party for nothing...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 03, 2025 02:27 PM (/HDaX)

7 I'm not crazy about Johnson, either, but this is fucking embarrassing.

Posted by: Jarrod at January 03, 2025 02:27 PM (Oow32)

8 Amazing, the conventional wisdom is the GOP is the stupid party, I will contend that it is in fact the endurance party because unlike the democrats the republican party has to do everything it does dressed in fucking clownshoes carrying the retards on their back.

Chip Roy is a fuckwit.

Posted by: sven at January 03, 2025 02:28 PM (X0I7i)

9 An explainer of sorts, for Ace:

https://is.gd/66LCAh

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

10
This means Harris now becomes President, right?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:28 PM (dxSpM)

11 10
This means Harris now becomes President, right?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:28 PM (dxSpM)

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*checks math*
*carries the one*

Nope. Hillary becomes president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

12 U.S. Virgin Islands Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D) loses her mind on the House Floor after she and other non-voting delegates are not allowed to vote for House Speaker because they represent territories, not states

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That doesn't seem fair since there're probably about 300 Beijing Delegates in the House.

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 02:29 PM (sfbIn)

13 Massie and Biggs need to check their egos.

Roy is just an asshole. Supported the sham investigation of Paxton.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 03, 2025 02:29 PM (pgwxJ)

14 They've had a minute to sort this out in private but instead course to bare their asses. Great work.

Posted by: Roberto at January 03, 2025 02:29 PM (QUC63)

15 This thread should be fun

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (VlVje)

16 So is it going to be President Chuck Grassley now?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (LPS7w)

17 Roy changed his Vote to Johnson, Ace.

Like you. He's a fan of Johnson.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (UE/EX)

18 I fully expect Johnson to force through legislation to reapportion House seats based on the corrected Census numbers which would move 17 seats, mostly from blue to red states, in order to strengthen his position as Speaker with a larger majority.

Because he's going to ruthlessly pursue Trump's agenda no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

19 They've had a minute to sort this out in private but instead course chose to bare their asses. Great work.

Posted by: Roberto at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (QUC63)

20 I guess they can vote to make Johnson (or somebody else? who?) temporary Speaker, but they actually have to get the votes to do that.

They should do this and then certify the election and take a recess until the 27th. Trump can then order the Senate recessed on day one and get all his nominees through.
Posted by: Grump928(C) has a dream at January 03, 2025 02:26 PM (aD39U)

Posted by: Grump928(C) repeats himself at January 03, 2025 02:31 PM (aD39U)

21 THIS AGAIN?? These idiots. Dems are imploding, and these guys are grandstanding about the speaker's job again.

Posted by: Adlib at January 03, 2025 02:32 PM (kBmW+)

22 How did Kay Grainger vote? My guess would be for Sam Rayburn.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:32 PM (lTGtQ)

23 UPDATE Needed, Ace.

Votes switched. Johnson is in.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:32 PM (UE/EX)

24 Gads, Gaetz is a weird-looking dude. Surprised he's not howling at the moon in that clip, as it seems to be night where he is.

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

25 Falling asleep or drunk??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (hovnC)

26 23 UPDATE Needed, Ace.

Votes switched. Johnson is in.
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:32 PM (UE/EX)

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But not before Republicans lost 2026...

So sad...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

27 OTOH, they should drag it out a bit and then wink at Nancy every so often.

Hi Nancy. . . . Just fuking with you .

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (VlVje)

28 I guess it was a hiccup

Posted by: Roberto at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (QUC63)

29 >>> Like you. He's a fan of Johnson.
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (UE/EX)

You two. It's like watching an episode of the odd couple. But gayer. 🤣

Posted by: banana Dream at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (Y6IkP)

30
They're getting a working over in the House dungeon. There's a Majority Whip for a reason.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (dxSpM)

31 The House may not have a speaker -- but does it have a woofer?

Posted by: zombie at January 03, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

32
But not before Republicans lost 2026...

So sad...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

They can still toss Johnson's ass out.. Just not now

Posted by: It's me donna at January 03, 2025 02:34 PM (VE6XX)

33 And just like that, it's over. 218 for Johnson. I'm assuming Massie was the only holdout.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 03, 2025 02:34 PM (pgwxJ)

34 You two. It's like watching an episode of the odd couple. But gayer. 🤣
Posted by: banana Dream at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM (Y6IkP)

And the linguini stuck to the wall is Spaghettios.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (/HDaX)

35 31 The House may not have a speaker -- but does it have a woofer?
Posted by: zombie at January 03, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

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Tweeter is in the back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

36 Cool. Trump wins.

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (SfhV1)

37 It's like watching an episode of the Odd Couple. But Gayer."

I did my best, but I'm not Garrett.

Posted by: Felix Unger at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (Dv/or)

38 Gads, Gaetz is a weird-looking dude. Surprised he's not howling at the moon in that clip, as it seems to be night where he is.

Posted by: Bulg

He was cute back when he played Eddie on the Munsters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (lTGtQ)

39 Get rid of voting, replace it with trial by combat.

At least we'd get some entertainment from that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

40 The House may not have a speaker -- but does it have a woofer?
Posted by: zombie

Rosa DiLauro is a dog...

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (77rzZ)

41 In a sane world, no one would give a shit who was Speaker Of The Ass. But since some much grift, graft, corruption and stolen money is on the line, everybody who either wants to profit or avoid getting raped has to pay attention to this clown show.

Posted by: Bozo The Clown at January 03, 2025 02:36 PM (R/m4+)

42 Enough of this nonsense. Start legislating, dipshits!

Posted by: Unkaren at January 03, 2025 02:36 PM (Ah6GP)

43 Johnson appears to win after last-second change
published at 13:33
13:33
Breaking
Two Republicans have just changed their votes to support Mike Johnson, appearing to give him the 218 votes necessary to win House speaker re-election after it had initially seemed like he would lose the first round

The form of the destructor has been chosen.

Posted by: Grump928(C) repeats himself at January 03, 2025 02:36 PM (aD39U)

44 He was cute back when he played Eddie on the Munsters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (lTGtQ)
________________

What role did Taylor Lorenz play on the Munsters?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

45 Done!

Posted by: Peaches at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (14URa)

46 did Trump threaten to pull their arms out ?

Posted by: runner at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (g47mK)

47 Johnson wins . Now we fight like apes

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (MLa3L)

48 U.S. Virgin Islands Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D) loses her mind on the House Floor after she and other non-voting delegates are not allowed to vote for House Speaker because they represent territories, not states

She had to have the rules explained to her and she was not happy

Someone is auditioning for the Sheila Jackson Lee position.

Between Pelosi and Steny Hoyer, they look like the Shady Acres rest home.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (xCA6C)

49 Those old folks look like me at Yom Kippur closing service after not eating for an entire day.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (KAi1n)

50 can't certify
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LMAO FNAB

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (zxYJz)

51 What role did Taylor Lorenz play on the Munsters?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Grandmama

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (lTGtQ)

52 What role did Taylor Lorenz play on the Munsters?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Spot.

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (77rzZ)

53 I can only hope that the holdouts got some kind of concession. Maybe another empty promise to return to regular budgetary order.

But instead we'll probably get business as usual, another mess of a CR in 2 months, and damnations of Johnson for sucking so hard and wondering why Republicans can't do any better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

54 We just can’t govern.
It totally makes sense why the left has made so many advancements over the years when you see Republicans in action

Even when they’re given complete control, they decide to engage in a circular firing squad.

Posted by: Maroon at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (7hmAj)

55 Falling asleep or drunk??
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:33 PM

Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (ewjUl)

56 It's like watching an episode of the Odd Couple. But Gayer."
_________________

Pete and Chasten?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

57 A late rise by Johnson.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (Y6IkP)

58 Whatever happened to Debbie Wasserschlutz anyway. Talk about a disappearing act.

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (zxYJz)

59 Norman and Self's DC phone lines were melting.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (NpAcC)

60 Big win for Massie: now he can claim every time everything isn't perfect that he told 'em so, and he didn't vote for this, and if only everyone listened to him, blah, blah, blah. Which seems like the only possible outcome and must have been his objective from that start.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (IORSH)

61 Johnson won. Now speaker.

Posted by: lizabth at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (Jfw7U)

62 Yep, keep your panties on. I have no problem with these guys getting a protest vote in, and then confirming the inevitable. BFD. Nobody will remember this shit in about 15 minutes.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (XMwZJ)

63 lol well that was exciting

...not

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (Pv3Rg)

64 U.S. Virgin Islands Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D) loses her mind on the House Floor after she and other non-voting delegates are not allowed to vote for House Speaker because they represent territories, not states

She had to have the rules explained to her and she was not happy
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It's okay. The GOPe can make up the difference with all12 of Washington D.C.'s delegates!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (hovnC)

65 Plaskett leading another charge.

Wikipedia, in part, "Stacey Elizabeth Plaskett[1][2] (/ˈplæskɪt/ PLASS-kit; born May 13, 1966) is an American politician and attorney serving since 2015 as the non-voting delegate to the United States House of Representatives from the United States Virgin Islands' at-large congressional district. Plaskett has practiced law in New York City, Washington, D.C., and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Before 2008, Plaskett was a member of the Republican Party, and was appointed by President George W. Bush to serve in the Civil Division of the United States Department of Justice.[3] She switched to the Democratic Party in late 2008 because she believed it was a better place to have new ideas heard.[4] She served as a House manager (prosecutor) during the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump, the first non-voting House member to do so.[5]

"On January 12, 2021, Plaskett was named a House impeachment manager for the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump in response to the storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021.[26] ... she was introduced by lead impeachment manager Jamie Raskin of Maryland, her former constitutional law professor..."

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (NFX2v)

66 A late rise by Johnson.
Posted by: banana Dream

So, the Viagra's starting to kick in?

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

67 61 Johnson won. Now speaker.
Posted by: lizabth at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (Jfw7U)

He shouldn't get too comfortable...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (VE6XX)

68 >>But instead we'll probably get business as usual, another mess of a CR in 2 months

Who cares?

It doesn't matter what the House passes, it is up to Trump to sign or not sign once it hits his desk.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (UE/EX)

69 So this is how the Republic dies. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (ZmEVT)

70 U.S. Virgin Islands Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D) loses her mind on the House Floor after she and other non-voting delegates are not allowed to vote for House Speaker because they represent territories, not states

She had to have the rules explained to her and she was not happy
_________________

Trying to educate Club 85 is a painful endeavor.

And what's this "Virgin Islands" crap anyway? I bet you can't find a virgin there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (YqDXo)

71 Our high wind advisory just went full blizzard.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (2Jptx)

72 Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat
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WTF are you smiling about?!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (hovnC)

73 62 Yep, keep your panties on. I have no problem with these guys getting a protest vote in, and then confirming the inevitable. BFD. Nobody will remember this shit in about 15 minutes.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 03, 2025 02:38 PM (XMwZJ)

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False.

Republicans will never win another election ever again because the narrative will paint them as bad!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

74 Johnson won. Now he owes nothing to the Freedom Caucus. Good job guys, we can all hold you in disdain now.

Posted by: Leland at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (JF6am)

75 Johnson has been elected Speaker.

Enough with the circular firing squad. Let's get Trump inaugurated and set this ship right.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (4tmpE)

76 But instead we'll probably get business as usual, another mess of a CR in 2 months, and damnations of Johnson for sucking so hard and wondering why Republicans can't do any better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

There was just no way to avoid the need to pass the 400th continuing resolution! We can’t shut the government down, we just can’t!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (FGFJD)

77 Congress.

Why must we be surrounded by assholes?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (Sv6I2)

78 It doesn't matter what the House passes, it is up to Trump to sign or not sign once it hits his desk.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (UE/EX)

Let's see if he is tougher this time. I sure hope so.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (d9fT1)

79 *checks math*
*carries the one*

Nope. Hillary becomes president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

alex_the_chick could throw her hat in, not far but in.

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (FhXTo)

80 68 Who cares?

It doesn't matter what the House passes, it is up to Trump to sign or not sign once it hits his desk.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (UE/EX)

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If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

81 That was quick. Johnson back as Speaker.

Posted by: Ann at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (PekUN)

82 Enough with the circular firing squad. Let's get Trump inaugurated and set this ship right.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (4tmpE)

What you said

Posted by: It's me donna at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (VE6XX)

83 This is like those posts where ace has a formatting issue then we all make a bunch of stupid grey, centered, or italics jokes only for ace to pull the rug on us, fix it, and make us look the fool.

Except this time it was Johnson pulling Ace's "rug".

Posted by: banana Dream at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (Y6IkP)

84 did Trump threaten to pull their arms out ?
Posted by: runner at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (g47mK)
*******
Threatened to ridicule them for the next 2 years with Elon pouring millions to oust them in 2026.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (NpAcC)

85 Oh. My mistake. Not yet.

It was all failure theatre.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (ZmEVT)

86 76 There was just no way to avoid the need to pass the 400th continuing resolution! We can’t shut the government down, we just can’t!
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (FGFJD)

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Right before Pride Month?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

87 Chardonnay. Stat! *hic* *zzzzzz*

Posted by: The Speaker Emerita at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (PiwSw)

88 54 We just can’t govern.
It totally makes sense why the left has made so many advancements over the years when you see Republicans in action

Even when they’re given complete control, they decide to engage in a circular firing squad.
Posted by: Maroon at January 03, 2025 02:37 PM (7hmAj)

Why vote for a RINO to be in charge of the House? Johnson would do nothing but impeded the Trump agenda... just like happened in the House and Senate last time he was President.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (QAkQ3)

89 Jane - amen

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (SfhV1)

90 I thought Musk was going to be Speaker. The media told me so and they're never wrong.

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (zxYJz)

91 35 31 The House may not have a speaker -- but does it have a woofer?
Posted by: zombie at January 03, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

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Tweeter is in the back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

Last I saw he back in Rahway face down in a field.

Posted by: Monkeyman at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (OA79/)

92
Flaccid Johnson

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (+oR7L)

93 >>If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Did you double up on your retard supplements today?

Because you are stuck in Retard and not making any progress.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (UE/EX)

94 Plaskett has been a non-voting delegate for nine years and didn't understand the non-voting part?

I'm glad we have such awesome people in congress.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (lTGtQ)

95 7 I'm not crazy about Johnson, either, but this is fucking embarrassing.
Posted by: Jarrod
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Democracy is messy. Remember, Pedo Speaker Hastert won the Speaker vote repeatedly without nary a challenge.

Decorum and optics is what ended us up in this place.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (ctrM5)

96 Is Nancy still asleep?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (4tmpE)

97 I thought Musk was going to be Speaker. The media told me so and they're never wrong.
Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (zxYJz)

Musk is President.

Posted by: The Narative at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (aD39U)

98 According to the Cato Institute:

"The 12th and 20th Amendments, the Electoral Count Reform Act (ECRA), and the mechanics of the Electoral College itself make clear that Congress’s count is not what makes a person into the president-elect, duly entitled to take office on Inauguration Day. Even if Congress fails to act, Trump and J.D. Vance (setting aside 14th Amendment arguments about Trump’s eligibility) would still take office at noon on January 20, 2025."

This makes sense to me, and I suspected it might be the case.

I think this whole "if we don't get our cuckling ensconced in time, there will be no Preznit, OMG" thing is just stray voltage.

That said, Trump says he's cool with Johnson. Though I disagree with that, I disagree with the GOP disobeying Trump for any reason.

They're worthless, they ruined America, and they wouldn't even still be a fucking political Party without him. They should spend the next four years groveling and kissing his ass at every turn, and I will note vote for any Congressman or Senator who doesn't show total fealty, period, end of story.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (BI5O2)

99 They didn't just walk in and take a seat.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (NFX2v)

100 The two that switched votes will now each get a bridge to nowhere in the next CR.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (Cus5s)

101 Mike Johnston is a clown and his breath stinks too........

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (A2iSa)

102 >>If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Nothing matters.

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (zxYJz)

103 Disappointed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (QAkQ3)

104 Last I saw he back in Rahway face down in a field.

Posted by: Monkeyman at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (OA79/)

One of my favorite songs in the world.

Posted by: Peaches at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (14URa)

105 Hey, Newt. Dust off your suit.

Posted by: Orson at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (dIske)

106 Stacey Plaskett v Jasmine Crockett
Tlaib v Omar
AOC v "Guam" Johnson
Waters v Swalwell
We're down to the final eight in leftist stupid off.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (MLa3L)

107 93 >>If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Did you double up on your retard supplements today?

Because you are stuck in Retard and not making any progress.
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (UE/EX)

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Seriously, if it's dependent on Trump signing legislation, then what did this fight matter?

What bad happened because three/four House Republicans made Johnson sweat for a few hours?

Maybe, maybe they got some kind of concession. That's certainly a better outcome than a rubber stamp for the guy who tried to sneak through an effective pardon of Liz Cheney in the middle of Christmas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

108 96 Is Nancy still asleep?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM

She saw the gavel, and she sounded like Gollum "My precious!!"

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (+oR7L)

109 Parlimentarian question here. Do people living in territories pay federal income taxes?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (OA79/)

110 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose. This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (uCjyK)

111 Best of luck, Don.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (aCsV6)

112 She'll get motoring around dusk.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (NFX2v)

113 The House is only a Republican Majority because of Trump's Coattails.

The Speakership has a different role under a Unified Party than it does under an Opposition Party.

Abandoning the Mandate for NO Benefits is retarded.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (UE/EX)

114 102 >>If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Nothing matters.
Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (zxYJz)

And nothing else matterssssss....

Posted by: Metalica at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (QAkQ3)

115 Nothing matters.
Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (zxYJz)

In the end, there is only Kratos.

Posted by: Chaos at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (aD39U)

116 LOL.

You are a territory, bitch.
Become a State and we will talk.

You should be thankful your ass is in a seat there to begin with.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (ufFY8)

117 Trump should give Massie an ambassadorship to Mars.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (NpAcC)

118 Are Ace and Garrett dating the Pigeon sisters??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (hovnC)

119 If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Nothing matters.

Anyone can see. Nothing really matters.....toooooo me.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (xCA6C)

120 Let's piss away everything we've gained for meaningless acts. The GOP way.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (MZ+PY)

121 Plaskett has been a non-voting delegate for nine years and didn't understand the non-voting part?
__________________

For years they let her vote, and then just shit-canned her vote without telling her.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (YqDXo)

122 Speaker Johnson Retains Gavel as Late Votes Flip....

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (c1UUT)

123 >>> I'm not crazy about Johnson
Posted by: Jarrod at January 03, 2025 02:27 PM (Oow32)

I am.

Posted by: Mayor Pete at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (Y6IkP)

124 98 I think this whole "if we don't get our cuckling ensconced in time, there will be no Preznit, OMG" thing is just stray voltage.

That said, Trump says he's cool with Johnson. Though I disagree with that, I disagree with the GOP disobeying Trump for any reason.

They're worthless, they ruined America, and they wouldn't even still be a fucking political Party without him. They should spend the next four years groveling and kissing his ass at every turn, and I will note vote for any Congressman or Senator who doesn't show total fealty, period, end of story.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (BI5O2)

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Trump supporting Johnson makes perfect sense. It's the same reason he supported McCarthy when Gaetz took him down:

Trump is playing the game. He wants the House leadership on his side. That makes sense.

If I were in the House, though, and my vote actually mattered in a case like this, holy shit would I use that to the advantage of my interests in how things run and what gets passed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

125 Grandstanding

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (XeU6L)

126 Great. Next challenge is extend the debt limit next month(?) so we don't default. It would have been easier to avoid default if Janet Yellen hadn't purposely made it more difficult, and if debt limit extension was included in the CR, like Trump wanted. Now, if Johnson had rode herd on these jackasses to get back to regular order, we wouldn't be careening around to avoid these pitfalls. I despise each and every one of you.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

127 Johnson wins . Now we fight like apes
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I wish we could get the Gorilla Channel in Canada.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (hovnC)

128 Chip Roy is a fuckwit.
Posted by: sven at January 03, 2025 02:28 PM (X0I7i)

He has a lot of company.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (7Pnfz)

129 Breitbart says Johnson just won on the second ballot.

Posted by: Paco at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (mADJX)

130 Because he's going to ruthlessly pursue Trump's agenda no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

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Would like to see Trump demand single-issue bills (including appropriations) and say he'll veto every omnibus or multi-issue bill -- and mean & stand by it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (oGdhm)

131 I don't know why anybody wold want to be Speaker anyhow.
It's turned into a terrible job.

If you're a Republican you always end up as the bad guy once some kind of budget has to be passed... at the last minute, and you get blamed for spending too much or too little on a 1500 page bill crammed with all the favors you had to give out to get votes and all the lobbyist & bureaucrat demands that ballooned the budget.

Then they spend most of their time begging for donor money and listening to lobbyists followed by dealing with all the drama inherent in a body of 435 people and their staffs before finally getting around to passing bills and performing all the ceremonial duties.

It's no wonder they've got problems choosing a Speaker.
Nobody wants the job.

I don't know who, beyond Johnson, would be good at it.
People like Jim Jordan but I don't know if he'd be any better once it comes to budget bills.

Who, that most of us like, could get the votes to be Speaker and be effective in the job?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (6ydKt)

132 113 The House is only a Republican Majority because of Trump's Coattails.

The Speakership has a different role under a Unified Party than it does under an Opposition Party.

Abandoning the Mandate for NO Benefits is retarded.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:43 PM (UE/EX)

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Go Team Red.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

133 74 Johnson won. Now he owes nothing to the Freedom Caucus. Good job guys, we can all hold you in disdain now.
Posted by: Leland at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (JF6am)

The outcomes of these votes are pre-ordained. It's just theater.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (uCjyK)

134 We here in Rattlepro are so proud of Mick Johnson who will fight President Lara Trump's agenda and make Democrats proud.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (zxYJz)

135 Luigi just told me Congress hushes up and pays off all their own sexual assault charges! That true?

Damn, sign me up for Speaker!

Posted by: P Diddy at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (UwkCX)

136 94 Plaskett has been a non-voting delegate for nine years and didn't understand the non-voting part?

I'm glad we have such awesome people in congress.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Dem House rules in several of the last Congresses under Pelosi control have allowed delegates to vote and serve as voting members on committees plus Committee of the Whole. GOP, when in the majority, have in the past stripped that voting ability from delegates. Dunno if the current rules package is different from prior GOP congresses.

Remember, House has no continuing rules unlike the Senate and must vote on the rules package every new Congress (or possibly during a change in control midterm but I would have to investigate those few instances--happened last during the revolt against Speaker Cannon if I recall rightly).

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (ctrM5)

137 "They're worthless, they ruined America, and they wouldn't even still be a fucking political Party without him."

Yet after a grueling week doing hard legal research and writing, doing deep dives into decades-old legislative history, and putting together my own tables of contents and authorities for 15-35 page briefs, I'm not allowed to blaze up and crank my guitar for a few hours. I think we have a conceptual problem here.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (KAi1n)

138 Plaskett has been a non-voting delegate for nine years and didn't understand the non-voting part?
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Opportunity to grandstand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (XeU6L)

139 Any chance this vote is a slight slap on the wrist for Johnson due to his CR stupidity?

And on the next vote they will re-install him as speaker after letting him know WE are watching?

Or is that too much one-dimensional tiddly-winks for the GOP?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (HlyYF)

140 130 Would like to see Trump demand single-issue bills (including appropriations) and say he'll veto every omnibus or multi-issue bill -- and mean & stand by it.
Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (oGdhm)

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Trump is going to let Congress do its thing, and he'll end up signing the CR in March.

The CR that reauthorizes TARP...again.

I wish Trump was the Cromwell everyone seems to think he is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

141 Apparently Reps Norman and Self changed their votes so it's technically a first ballot win.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (6ydKt)

142 Is Nancy still asleep?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM (4tmpE)
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Is she back from Germany?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

143 Now, if Johnson had rode herd on these jackasses to get back to regular order, we wouldn't be careening around to avoid these pitfalls. I despise each and every one of you.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

As if Johnson wanted regular order.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (FGFJD)

144 The Clerk Of The House 3:39:54 PM

THE HONORABLE HAKEEM JEFFRIES OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS RECEIVED 215. AND THE HONORABLE TOM EMMER OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS RECEIVED ONE. THEREFORE, THE HONORABLE MIKE JOHNSON OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, HAVING RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST IS DULY ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE 119TH CONGRESS.

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (RHGPo)

145 Parlimentarian question here. Do people living in territories pay federal income taxes?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

They owe them on US income, not necessarily local income.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (lTGtQ)

146 Johnson is not world's best guy for the job, but if he moves Trump's agenda forward then that is what we want.....

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (c1UUT)

147 MEDIAite: National Review Begs House Republicans Not to Oust 'Worthy' Speaker Mike Johnson: 'It Is Time for the Insanity to End'

Interesting National Review thought Process: Urge people who voted for insanity in large numbers to stop the insanity.

My guess is Dems will eventually bail him out, but they damn well better get something significant.

They didn't bail him out last time. They've bailed him out to keep the Gubmint running, but not for the Speaker's Chair. Dems will vote 100% for Jeffries, every time. Let the Repukes twist in the wind, as long as it takes.

Stupid asses. They don't DESERVE to govern! But the drama is funny. May they continue to crumble before our eyes.

Hey Fox News, you're terrible at this! Get all your stupid lackeys out of our government and stay out! And fire their regional manager Sean Hannity while you are at it!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (ycI94)

148 If I were in the House, though, and my vote actually mattered in a case like this, holy shit would I use that to the advantage of my interests in how things run and what gets passed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

Nope. I'm well past the point where I care what the GOP shitstains think. This is Trump's Party now, and his voters are his, not theirs. They can obey or they can get milled into animal feed, AFAIC. They are yesterday, MAGA is tomorrow, and they better figure it out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (BI5O2)

149 How about that Republican gal that's in memory care? Why not?

Posted by: torabora at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (0Gnoc)

150 129 Breitbart says Johnson just won on the second ballot.
Posted by: Paco at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (mADJX)
*****
They're wrong. First ballot never closed.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (NpAcC)

151 Johnson wins . Now we fight like apes
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I wish we could get the Gorilla Channel in Canada.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (hovnC)

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Yet another reason to make Canada the 51st State!

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (oGdhm)

152 143 Now, if Johnson had rode herd on these jackasses to get back to regular order, we wouldn't be careening around to avoid these pitfalls. I despise each and every one of you.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

As if Johnson wanted regular order.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (FGFJD)

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Well, he did promise it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

153 Okay, clowns. GET TO WORK.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (nEcsM)

154 96 Is Nancy still asleep?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:41 PM

She's gotta be on some serious pain killers. What in hell is she doing there?

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (7Pnfz)

155 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose. This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

I agree. There's nothing in the Constitution that justifies the idea of any American territory not being a state, part of a state, or destined for statehood. We aren't the freaking Spaniards, or English, or French. If they want to stay and become a state, fine. Otherwise, cut 'em loose.

Maybe let 'em have Free Assocciation like the Northern Marianas and Palau. But nothing more.

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (77rzZ)

156
For whatever faults, I'd rather have a Massie or a Chip Roy than a Susan Collins or Lisa the Murk.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (dxSpM)

157 106 Stacey Plaskett v Jasmine Crockett
Tlaib v Omar
AOC v "Guam" Johnson
Waters v Swalwell
We're down to the final eight in leftist stupid off.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (MLa3L)

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Zombie Sheila Jackson Lee at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (PiwSw)

158 So, were there any concessions after the 1st vote...or did a call get made by Trump/Elon to the 2 stragglers (I don't count Massie b/c I think he was always being allowed to be the "Rand Paul" vote)...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (exHjb)

159 Would like to see Trump demand single-issue bills (including appropriations) and say he'll veto every omnibus or multi-issue bill -- and mean & stand by it.
Posted by: ShainS

I just felt the thrill run up my leg.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (Q8Bj8)

160 Depends.

IRS, Topic no. 901, Is a person with income from Puerto Rico required to file a U.S. federal income tax return?

If you're a bona fide resident of Puerto Rico, you generally aren't required to file a U.S. federal income tax return if your only income is from sources within Puerto Rico.
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However, it goes on for paragraphs with exceptions, rules, pamphlets.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (NFX2v)

161 Johnson is not world's best guy for the job, but if he moves Trump's agenda forward then that is what we want.....
Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (c1UUT)

THIS^^^^^^

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (nEcsM)

162 74 Johnson won. Now he owes nothing to the Freedom Caucus. Good job guys, we can all hold you in disdain now.

Posted by: Leland at January 03, 2025 02:39 PM (JF6am)

In the end, he got all the GOP votes except for Massie. He still needs them going forward.

Posted by: No Name Today at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (vlXMQ)

163 146 Johnson is not world's best guy for the job, but if he moves Trump's agenda forward then that is what we want.....
Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (c1UUT)

He will not.

Posted by: Narrator Ron Howard at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (uCjyK)

164 THE HONORABLE HAKEEM JEFFRIES OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS RECEIVED 215. AND THE HONORABLE TOM EMMER OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS RECEIVED ONE. THEREFORE, THE HONORABLE MIKE JOHNSON OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, HAVING RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST IS DULY ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE 119TH CONGRESS.

Jefferies and the Democrat's still suck and controlled by Obama.

Let's see if they support America or Socialism????????

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (c1UUT)

165 148 Nope. I'm well past the point where I care what the GOP shitstains think. This is Trump's Party now, and his voters are his, not theirs. They can obey or they can get milled into animal feed, AFAIC. They are yesterday, MAGA is tomorrow, and they better figure it out.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (BI5O2)

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I don't think Johnson is on Trump's side. I think he's spineless and bends with the wind, but when there's no wind he tries to pass a CR that gives an effective pardon to Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

I would fight a man like Johnson every chance I got.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

166
How about that Republican gal that's in memory care? Why not?

Posted by: torabora

She didn't run for reelection for some reason, and was replaced.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)

167 No, he won on the first ballot,. Two changed their vote for him

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (NQtI0)

168 144 The Clerk Of The House 3:39:54 PM

THE HONORABLE HAKEEM JEFFRIES OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS RECEIVED 215. AND THE HONORABLE TOM EMMER OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS RECEIVED ONE. THEREFORE, THE HONORABLE MIKE JOHNSON OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, HAVING RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST IS DULY ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE 119TH CONGRESS.
Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (RHGPo)

Nothing honorable about Hakeem Jeffries.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (7Pnfz)

169 What role did Taylor Lorenz play on the Munsters?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

The widow's peak

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (NMT5x)

170 Except this time it was Johnson pulling Ace's "rug".
Posted by: banana Dream at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM (Y6IkP)

Ace wears a toupee?

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (eb5mD)

171 Guy sitting next to Nancy looks like he could use a nap as well. There ought to be both age and term limits for these folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (AgiXj)

172 She's gotta be on some serious pain killers. What in hell is she doing there?
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (7Pnfz)

Vodka and OxyContin are a hell of a combination.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (nEcsM)

173 I'm not sure what happens if they don't elect a Speaker.

Dissolve Congress? Hey, you never know until you try.

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (OqC0L)

174 Oh good, instead of locking shields and marching as a phalanx behind Trump, who is the sole reason that the GOP has anything vaguely resembling functional political power in DC right now, we get the usual dickwad bullshit where 3 or 4 faggots have to take their cocks out and wave them around the House chamber so that everyone knows they're REAL MEN with SHIT TO SAY and someone has to LISTEN TO THEIR TRUTH.

No, asshat, you're a faggot. Sit down, shut the fuck up, and vote exactly the way Trump tells you to vote for the next two years. I don't want to hear a single peep about MUH PRINCIBULLS. Your princibulls got you put in the cuck chair for the last two decades.

Posted by: ballistic at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (qlmTX)

175 Da fuq?

Update: Mike Johnson wins Speakership on FIRST VOTE after convincing two holdouts to change votes

https://is.gd/IcM5LW

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (L/fGl)

176 152 143 Now, if Johnson had rode herd on these jackasses to get back to regular order, we wouldn't be careening around to avoid these pitfalls. I despise each and every one of you.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 03, 2025 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

As if Johnson wanted regular order.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (FGFJD)

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Well, he did promise it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

And we got a surprise Festivus CR anyway!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 03, 2025 02:49 PM (FGFJD)

177 110 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose. This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:42 PM (uCjyK)

Yes. Do that.

Posted by: China at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (xcIvR)

178 Bogus claims of POS Chip Roy, blowhard and windsock.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (5KR1B)

179 Speaker Johnson should introduce Trump's Agenda today and begin the process to implement........

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (c1UUT)

180 So what did that tantrum accomplish other than "CHAOS IN MAGA GOP" headlines for the weekend?
Seems pointless to me but then again I'm not a super smart h1-b guy.

Posted by: Cmonman at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (HS9Vm)

181 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

You are really crabby today. I think you need to go watch Prometheus and chill out.

You're starting to give off MP4 vibes.

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (77rzZ)

182 I would fight a man like Johnson every chance I got.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

Agree.... Johnson is part of the problem we sent Trump to DC to fix...

Posted by: Metalica at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (QAkQ3)

183 I agree. There's nothing in the Constitution that justifies the idea of any American territory not being a state, part of a state, or destined for statehood. We aren't the freaking Spaniards, or English, or French. If they want to stay and become a state, fine. Otherwise, cut 'em loose.

Maybe let 'em have Free Assocciation like the Northern Marianas and Palau. But nothing more.
Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (77rzZ)

We have the perfect amount of states right now. Cut them loose.

The only reason to make PR or any of the territories a state would be if having 2 new senators would help the R's. It won't. It will help the D's, which is why they constantly push for more states.

These are poor countries (territories) with very different cultures from us and there is no reason for us keep them as colonies. We get nothing out of this deal other than some military bases. We can negotiate leases for those bases if we must.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (uCjyK)

184 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose. This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Careful, they might tip over.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (lTGtQ)

185 I'm sorry, my hearing is starting to go, but I heard something about a Virgin in Congress who was upset about being left out of the action? I'll console her.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (Dv/or)

186 Remember, House has no continuing rules unlike the Senate and must vote on the rules package every new Congress...

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:45 PM (ctrM5)

I think you are correct, and of course that means that even if there is no speaker they can certify the election.

I'll bet that bit of nonsense was floated by Johnson's people.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (d9fT1)

187 Time for Republicans to act like Democrats. Gather by the thousands at each Reps home state home (but law they got to have one) and protest until they perform the way we want then to perform. Protest loudly.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (4780s)

188 Can we get a bill banning use of the word HONORABLE from use in Congress?

/At least 'til the National Debt == $0 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (ScI+v)

189 Ben Roethlisberger is the Clerk of the House??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (hovnC)

190 The Clerk Of The House 3:39:54 PM

THE HONORABLE HAKEEM JEFFRIES OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS RECEIVED 215. AND THE HONORABLE TOM EMMER OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS RECEIVED ONE. THEREFORE, THE HONORABLE MIKE JOHNSON OF THE STATE OF LOUISIANA, HAVING RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST IS DULY ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE 119TH CONGRESS.

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (RHGPo)
_________________

Honorable?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

191 When Alaska was a territory, we didn't pay federal taxes unless we worked for the feds. However, we did have to pass through customs in Seattle while going to the Lower 48. For some reason they kept demanding that after statehood, so there was a strong movement to change that, and folks here started using their garbage dump punch card as official ID at the customs gates. The idiots finally got the message and knocked it off.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (7Pnfz)

192 I don't think Johnson is on Trump's side. I think he's spineless and bends with the wind, but when there's no wind he tries to pass a CR that gives an effective pardon to Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

I would fight a man like Johnson every chance I got.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (GBKbO)
_______________________________

Exactly. Johnson doesn't have a killer instinct. You have to be willing to do the "unpleasant" things and not worry about whether it is "proper decorum." I'm tired of this "Oh my, I hope they don't think ill of me" mentality. Pierre Dilecto politics suck.

Posted by: Orson at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (dIske)

193 I'd rather keep Guam and calve off Hawaii.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (UE/EX)

194 Who, that most of us like, could get the votes to be Speaker and be effective in the job?
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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You can be effective with a small majority but it requires a ruthlessness by mandating caucus control over legislation passage on major items. Dems during the 1970's and 1980's had problems as Southern Democrats often defected to the GOP giving the GOP nominal control over some issues.

Jim Wright, when he became speaker, isolated and destroyed members that crossed lines to the extent that many of these members retired and were replaced by GOP. That adherence to caucus control over member votes plus the mega fund raising by leadership under Tony Coehlo (maj whip), set the stage for Newt to become speaker in 94.

Both the Dem and GOP went after committee chairs when in power. The Dems demanded major committees no longer be allocated by solely seniority during the mid 1970's and Newt's GOP takeover included a term limit of six years for committee chairs. Dems have no term limit on chairs. Thus, you get more turnover in the GOP ranks than the Dems. Being a back bencher sucks if you want to have power in the House whether the majority is Dem or GOP.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (ctrM5)

195 181 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

You are really crabby today. I think you need to go watch Prometheus and chill out.

You're starting to give off MP4 vibes.
Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:50 PM (77rzZ)

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Perhaps.

But...I remember how the GOP, with a larger majority in the House and budget hawk Paul Ryan leading them, failed to even defund PBS.

And we have VERY RECENT history of Johnson trying to push through terrible, awful legislation designed to literally protect Trump's enemies from legal ramifications from their actions.

The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

196 If I don't get a vote, why in the hell would Guam get a vote?

Posted by: Gov. Justin Castreau at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (OqC0L)

197 Johnson is not world's best guy for the job, but if he moves Trump's agenda forward then that is what we want

I think he can be reluctantly dragged, coerced, or romanced into backing some Trump stuff. This is not the first Trump term, congressmen have to admit that the majority of Americans voted for him this time ad realize that they are being watched closely after the Continuing Resolution debacle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (RsS92)

198 If we want more states we should be eyeing mid-western Canada like a lion eyeing a gazelle herd.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (aD39U)

199 158 So, were there any concessions after the 1st vote...or did a call get made by Trump/Elon to the 2 stragglers (I don't count Massie b/c I think he was always being allowed to be the "Rand Paul" vote)...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM (exHjb)

-- --
Johnson talked to Norman and Self privately from what they're suggesting on CSPAN.

He must've promised something to persuade them to change their votes, or he handed them the phone with Trump on the other end and he persuaded them.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (6ydKt)

200 Guam is strategically important for US Military Operations in the Pacific Theater. Projects power towards Russia, China, and NK. I have been there and flew missions in the Korean DMZ .

I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose. This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (c1UUT)

201 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Zombie Sheila Jackson Lee at January 03, 2025 02:47 PM

No. Get fucked, and stay fucked.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (Sv6I2)

202 Johnson elected speaker.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (qldi8)

203 I wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy Mace and AOC in this battle to select a Speaker.

Tops off, and vote accordingly.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (ufFY8)

204 These are poor countries (territories) with very different cultures from us and there is no reason for us keep them as colonies. We get nothing out of this deal other than some military bases. We can negotiate leases for those bases if we must.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (uCjyK)
__________________

This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

205 I am not an H1B guy. My IQ is far higher than 76 and I don't brush my teeth with cowshit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (2Jptx)

206 Simply having a Speaker from a Republican state is refreshing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (aD39U)

207 Who are those 3 sitting behind Pelosi in nearly identical garb? The one on the right looks like Tlaib, I don't recognize the garment style though.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (lg881)

208 Once Trump is confirmed the House can return to arguing all they like. But, if they are smart, they will fight each other on the margin, and spend their productive hours passing Trump priorities.

Sure, stand up for your beliefs. Argue in favor of your values. Just don't do it on our time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (y0K26)

209 Make territories great again.
Make Hawaii and Alaska great.
Make them territories.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (5KR1B)

210 Meanwhile, spare a thought for those of us in Georgia who have been having Saint Jimmy shoved down our throats 24/7. 😡😡😡

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (nEcsM)

211 The big news here is that Hakeem Jeffries is the best the demoscum can come up with. Jeez...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (XMwZJ)

212 I don’t get it: my email from the NYT says Johnson won.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (rYoXG)

213 Honorable?

I think they use honorable the same way that pregnant brides wear white. Its not a statement of fact, its just tradition.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (RsS92)

214 Remember, Massie has the nomination to Sec Agriculture, I bet this will get Johnson to turf him out of the House ASAP.
You would do anything to get someone like that out from your blind spot at your back

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (D7oie)

215 Ace wears a toupee?
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Merkin.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (hovnC)

216 And we have VERY RECENT history of Johnson trying to push through terrible, awful legislation designed to literally protect Trump's enemies from legal ramifications from their actions.

The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

Yup... it's 'trust the system' thinking like about Bill Barr.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (QAkQ3)

217 If we want more states we should be eyeing mid-western Canada like a lion eyeing a gazelle herd.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (aD39U)

Alberta for number 51.

AOP is half 'murican already...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (ufFY8)

218 I would fight a man like Johnson every chance I got.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, I can't stand him.

But if you give the GOP a cookie, they'll ask for a glass of milk. They need it made clear, at the outset, that they are no longer being consulted. They can obey, or they can get primaried hard in '26.

I know Trump won't do that, but he damned well should, and make no bones about it. Put it right out there in his inaugural address: "I'm coming directly to you, my voters, with this. These people are not on our side. Their only use to us is as a rubber stamp, and I want you to get out, vote as hard as you can, and throw out any one of these bums who doesn't obey our iron will to Make America Great Again."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (BI5O2)

219 If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM

One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try

In the end, it doesn't even matter

Posted by: Linkin Park at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (P5BPp)

220 Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (ctrM5)

We need a guy who will promise regular order, no more CRs, and mean it, if we're ever going to get the budget under control.

I don't know who that is.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (6ydKt)

221 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose.

This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.
Posted by: Franklin Stein

And if we do, we'll just take it. For the duration.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (5n7Gi)

222 The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

Of course he will.

Posted by: Glenn John at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (nnlvH)

223
This.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

_________

Until the heathen Chinee come up with a better price and kick us out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (dxSpM)

224 Thomas Earl Emmer Jr. (born March 3, 1961) is an American attorney and politician who has served as Republican majority whip in the United States House of Representatives since 2023

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (RHGPo)

225 If I don't get a vote, why in the hell would Guam get a vote?

Posted by: Gov. Justin Castreau at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (OqC0L)
_______________

You get a vote in Cuba.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (YqDXo)

226 Exactly. Johnson doesn't have a killer instinct. You have to be willing to do the "unpleasant" things and not worry about whether it is "proper decorum." I'm tired of this "Oh my, I hope they don't think ill of me" mentality. Pierre Dilecto politics suck.
Posted by: Orson
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Weird vibe from Johnson similar to Hastert or Livingstone. Read up on the relationship that Johnson has with his adopted and troubled son.

I think Johnson is comped myself which is why he ended up as Speaker. The uniparty types do not want a strong GOP speaker because it will spell the end of spending us into oblivion.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (ctrM5)

227 The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.

There is writing on the wall. Unindicted Congressmen aren't blind.

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (OqC0L)

228
Hey, I saw LBJ's Johnson. That guy was like a horse. No joke. Lady Bird's hair smelled liked AquaNet & Preparation H. Nice legs though.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (+oR7L)

229 213 Honorable?

I think they use honorable the same way that pregnant brides wear white. Its not a statement of fact, its just tradition.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (RsS92)

Hmm.... would not be calling all Congress Critters 'Honorable' be a Title? and seein as how Titles are EXPRESSLY prohibited under the US Constitution?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (QAkQ3)

230 Then came Johnson

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (/7KEl)

231 Exactly. Johnson doesn't have a killer instinct. You have to be willing to do the "unpleasant" things and not worry about whether it is "proper decorum." I'm tired of this "Oh my, I hope they don't think ill of me" mentality. Pierre Dilecto politics suck.
Posted by: Orson at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (dIske)

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Tom "The Hammer" DeLay at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (PiwSw)

232 I knew what victim group Stacey Plaskett belonged to as soon as I saw (D) after her name, and that she did not understand the rules of the House.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (J2vNu)

233 220
We need a guy who will promise regular order, no more CRs, and mean it, if we're ever going to get the budget under control.

I don't know who that is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (6ydKt)

========

Johnson promised that.

And then he tried to use the CR process 2 weeks ago to sneak through an effective pardon for Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)

234 The reason we don't have Regular Order is because it gives every representative cover.
The can go back to their constituents and say "I didn't want to vote for H.R. _______ but I had to because...."

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (c6hLR)

235 Step 1) True Patriot MAGA Republicans prevent Cuck Johnson from winning Speakership.
Step 2) ???
Step 3) MAGA nirvana ensues.

It's step 2 that I still haven't heard explained clearly.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (IORSH)

236 We need a guy who will promise regular order, no more CRs, and mean it, if we're ever going to get the budget under control.

I don't know who that is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

I'm your huckleberry.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (5n7Gi)

237 Flip Guam over again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (2Jptx)

238 Honorable?

I think they use honorable the same way that pregnant brides wear white. Its not a statement of fact, its just tradition.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They had their fingers crossed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (L/fGl)

239 These are poor countries (territories) with very different cultures from us and there is no reason for us keep them as colonies. We get nothing out of this deal other than some military bases. We can negotiate leases for those bases if we must.

I agree, its the last vestiges of 19th century empire theory, and we should jettison them entirely. The only possible reason to hold on to these territories is some kind of pride, like it would feel like we failed or are contracting if we cut them loose.

I mean, the territories would all scream bloody murder too, because they don't have sufficient economy or industry to survive without Uncle Sam's largesse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (RsS92)

240 Johnson promised a lap dance from Rose Dilauro to Self and Norman if they didn't switch.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (MLa3L)

241 210 Meanwhile, spare a thought for those of us in Georgia who have been having Saint Jimmy shoved down our throats 24/7. 😡😡😡
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:53 PM (nEcsM)

Hell, Biden gave the government Jan 9 off so we have time to mourn that asshat. I don't have the wherewithal to fly down for the funeral, and it isn't very feasible for a woman to piss on a grave, so I guess I'll just stay home and knit.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (7Pnfz)

242 For all of you that think Massie is some sort of traitor to MAGA, you don't understand the district, at all.

There is no brighter red district than Massie's in the country, and it is hard core pro-Trump MAGA.

And this district is ALSO hard core supportive of Massie and him blowing up the crap in Congress that keeps just getting along.

I have whiplash from watching 'Conservatives' HOWL about Johnson attempting to pass a last minute hand grenade to Trump that included a massive pork laden bill including a nice, fat pay raise (That Massie voted against)

But now 'conservatives' are all angry cause Massie won't fall in line and re-elect the exact same speaker that lobbied to try to pass that bill just 2 weeks ago.

Massie will have my vote again, and it is because he is a hard liner. He isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: ghbucky at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (/xDbx)

243 BabylonBee: FBI Asks X Users To Please Stop Solving Crimes Before They Do

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (RHGPo)

244 I know Trump won't do that, but he damned well should, and make no bones about it. Put it right out there in his inaugural address: "I'm coming directly to you, my voters, with this. These people are not on our side. Their only use to us is as a rubber stamp, and I want you to get out, vote as hard as you can, and throw out any one of these bums who doesn't obey our iron will to Make America Great Again."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (BI5O2)

I agree. Trump has recently spoken of the great value of H-1B visas and the need for a bipartisan deal to provide a pathway to citizenship for DREAMers, and if the establishment stands in his way of those goals, they must be punished.

Posted by: Glenn John at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (nnlvH)

245 do we like it or do we hate it

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (/7KEl)

246 204 These are poor countries (territories) with very different cultures from us and there is no reason for us keep them as colonies. We get nothing out of this deal other than some military bases. We can negotiate leases for those bases if we must.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 03, 2025 02:51 PM (uCjyK)
___________________________________________

I rather see us develop them into manufacturing centers. Because, the week after we leave, China will be in there setting up shop and doing exactly that. Dirty little secret is that a significant amount of Mexico's manufacturing is now Chinese run. They use other countries like that to avoid mainland tariffs that are applied at 25%

Posted by: Orson at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (dIske)

247 It's step 2 that I still haven't heard explained clearly.

I mean, putting aside the straw man, the idea is that Johnson failed to keep his promises and is a squish at best so replacing him could give us someone better seems kind of an obvious step 2...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (RsS92)

248 Honorable?

I think they use honorable the same way that pregnant brides wear white. Its not a statement of fact, its just tradition.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (RsS92)
________________

Tradition, lie, what's in a word?

A friend of mine in his Christmas card referred to the "honorable" Gavin Newsom. I almost plotzed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

249 I'd rather keep Guam and calve off Hawaii.
Posted by: garrett

Nah. The brown snakes are all wokeish leftards.

Posted by: Bulg at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)

250 Hey at least the GOP got rid of McCarthy in Oct 2023. I'll allow a bit of individual grandstanding before electing Johnson. In news which shocked me, the Colorado D's failed to steal the 8th district and we have 4 Rs and 4 Ds in the house this year and none of them is back stabber Ken Buck.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (UKUm3)

251 >>>The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzo
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He did what Trump told him to do on the CR why wouldn't he do it again?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (5KR1B)

252 do we like it or do we hate it
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (/7KEl)

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Yes

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (nEcsM)

253
When the Frogs give up St. Pierre and Miquelon is when we should give up Guam.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (dxSpM)

254 Hmm.... would not be calling all Congress Critters 'Honorable' be a Title? and seein as how Titles are EXPRESSLY prohibited under the US Constitution?
Posted by: Romeo13

Titles of nobility arenprohibited. Otherwise, at every hearing, the name placards wouldn't have been"Congressman xxx", since Congressman would be considered a title.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (5n7Gi)

255 219 If it doesn't matter, then this fight didn't matter and Johnson securing his seat didn't matter and the fight to embarrass him didn't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:40 PM

One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try

In the end, it doesn't even matter
Posted by: Linkin Park at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (P5BPp)

And even if we win, if we win, HAH! Even if we win! Even if we play so far above our heads that our noses bleed for a week to ten days; even if God in Heaven above comes down and points his hand at our side of the field; even if every man woman and child held hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't matter because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from duh Dems because they've got all the money! It just doesn't matter if we win or we lose. IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (QAkQ3)

256 Anti-inflammatory drugs taken by millions of pregnant women around the world may raise the risk of autism in their babies.

A study looked at the impact on children who are exposed to glucocorticoids - a class of steroids - in the womb.

Those prenatally exposed to the drugs were between 30 and 50 percent more likely to be diagnosed with autism compared to children whose mothers did not take them.

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (RHGPo)

257 Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.

Permanent sleep?*

*I'm sure someone's already said this by now.
(Yeah, like I read all the comments first)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (0eaVi)

258 251 >>>The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzo
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He did what Trump told him to do on the CR why wouldn't he do it again?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 02:58 PM (5KR1B)

========

Because before people started paying attention Johnson tried to advance a version of the CR that gave legal protection to Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

At absolute best, you can say that Johnson is a spineless shitweasel who will bend with the wind, but the wind won't be blowing all of the time and he's going to get through shit into bills in the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (GBKbO)

259 Thank you Jane
compelling and rich

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (/7KEl)

260 We need a guy who will promise regular order, no more CRs, and mean it, if we're ever going to get the budget under control.

I don't know who that is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Not quite. You simply need enough GOP votes in the House to sustain a veto. Trump should use his veto early and often and end the whole gubmint shutdown theater.

We had quite a few shutdowns that the public never noticed after the passage of the 1974 Budget guidance legislation. Wasn't until Bush v. Dem Congress before Gulf War that these became the media circus they are today.

Necessary spending is exempt from shutdowns and that makes it glaringly obvious that there is a way to stop most useless spending by simply vetoing it and pointing to the egregious spending items in the vetoed bill.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 02:59 PM (ctrM5)

261 221 I'm with the lady from Guam or whatever. Time to cut the territories loose.

This isn't 1945, we don't need an island in the middle of the pacific to frog hop to Japan anymore.
Posted by: Franklin Stein

And if we do, we'll just take it. For the duration.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (5n7Gi)

We have all kinds of things on Guam. Still strategic, I believe. Let's not pull an Afghanistan just to seem neat and tidy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (7Pnfz)

262 honorable.....protip: they don't really mean it

Posted by: torabora at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (0Gnoc)

263 This shit...this shit is why I'm done with "the process". Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Posted by: Agent Potatohead at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (OUMaO)

264 It's so embarrassing to watch the Republican party try to do anything these days. They're so awful and corrupt and bumbling.

Posted by: Biergood at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (PwgSL)

265 Instapundit is reporting Johnson won.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (rYoXG)

266 Spin off Washington and Oregon to form New China with BC. Give Quebec independence and make Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Alberta states. The Newfies can form a The Frozen Confederation with Nunavut, the NWT, and the Yukon.

I would just lay tribute on Ontario.

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (aD39U)

267 When do they have to certify the election by and are there any other political shana Ivan's they can pull between now and then?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (ZqIJU)

268 My personal belief is that Hakeem Jeffries could make paint dry slower

Posted by: SMOD at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (RHGPo)

269 Besides the weekend is here, Johnson losing is a good start to the new Trump administration

Posted by: Skip at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (fwDg9)

270 Johnson promised that.

And then he tried to use the CR process 2 weeks ago to sneak through an effective pardon for Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)

-- --

Yeah, I don't think he'll get it done this year.
That's the thing about the House.
They've only got a year where they can really do things before they get scared for the next election and lose momentum.

I don't see Johnson as a Damn the Torpedos! type.
He'll try and then give up and we'll see another CR come Christmas, again.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (6ydKt)

271 And Trump can blackmail Johnson to do the right things.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (hovnC)

272 We have all kinds of things on Guam. Still strategic, I believe. Let's not pull an Afghanistan just to seem neat and tidy.
Posted by: tcn in AK at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (7Pnfz)

I'm sure WE don't need them, but I'd damn sure bet China would. Why gift it to them?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (0eaVi)

273 249 I'd rather keep Guam and calve off Hawaii.
Posted by: garrett
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Keeping territories is a lot cheaper than Ukraine, or NATO or UN and they can be more beneficial than any of that other money spent. And while we are at it take Cuba. Make sugar, cigars and casinos great again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (5KR1B)

274 the idea is that Johnson failed to keep his promises and is a squish at best so replacing him could give us someone better seems kind of an obvious step 2...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (RsS92)

Yes, that would be obvious. So why hasn't anyone proposed that? There were 3 Republicans, I think, who voted initially against Johnson. Which of them could be elected Speaker and get all this stuff done? I'd be on board with that, but what's the plan? Who is it that could be elected Speaker and then make all our dreams come true? I want that too, but I haven't seen anyone indicate that there was any sort of possible plan to make this happen.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (IORSH)

275 "historic" means "not worth a shit"
"honorable" means "cocksucker"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (YqDXo)

276 Well, looks like we're putting our Johnson out there for now. But if this Johnson doesn't get it done, we can try with another Member.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (/7KEl)

277 It's funny that the delegate from Epstein Island didn't know the rules about why she was there.

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (B46kE)

278 Both Fox and Newsmax are reporting that Johnson got enough votes to retain. Some of the feckless retards who voted no evidently changed votes or some D's flipped.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (4beqN)

279 Screw Johnson. He has no honor.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (bXvrr)

280 Alberta strikes me as a rich Democrat vote mine, should it ever decide to apply for statehood. I get that it has a lot of oil and ranching. I am all in favor of gaining another good ski mountain. And our rodeo circuit would applaud. But they have been Canadian for a long damn time up there, and would probably be Big Karen territory.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (0/sxd)

281 Guam and the Northern Marianas are Commonwealths. Palau, Micronesia and the Marshall Islands are independent but we handle their defense as they are in free association with us. We should offer the same thing to Greenland

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (MLa3L)

282 I wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy Mace and AOC in this battle to select a Speaker.

Tops off, and vote accordingly.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Now that's a proposition I could get behind, or, er, in front of. Depends how they're hangin'.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (NMT5x)

283 Haakeem is pitching a fit about lowering cost to all Americans. Notice he didn't say anything about lowering prices and getting inflation under control because lowering cost means price controls (aka the precursor to a centralized command and control economy) and using socialism to redistribute your wealth to other people.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (Q8Bj8)

284 270 I don't see Johnson as a Damn the Torpedos! type.
He'll try and then give up and we'll see another CR come Christmas, again.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (6ydKt)

=====

Next CR will be due in March.

"There wasn't enough time to do the budget process!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

285
honorable.....protip: they don't really mean it
Posted by: torabora at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (0Gnoc)

_________

When one senator thinks another is stupid, he calls him, "The able Senator from X".

When one senator knows another is stupid, he calls him, "The able and learned Senator from X".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (dxSpM)

286 Step 1) True Patriot MAGA Republicans prevent Cuck Johnson from winning Speakership.
Step 2) ???
Step 3) MAGA nirvana ensues.

It's step 2 that I still haven't heard explained clearly.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 03, 2025 02:56 PM (IORSH)
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Nobody has bothered to fill in Step Two since the first time these same grandstanding dingleberries decided to roll a grenade into Kevin McCarthy's office for the grand crime of...doing exactly what Mike Johnson kept on fuckin doing as soon as he got installed.

But ask that sort of question around here and you'll get a lot of "shut up bigot" type of stuff where if you don't get behind people like Matt Gaetz acting like a cocaine cowboy, you're just a shill for the GOPe and you're not MAGA.

Posted by: ballistic at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (qlmTX)

287 Bryon Donalds will remain my choice. Period.

Byron Donalds
@ByronDonalds
.
@January6thCmte
was an un-American show trial weaponized v. Trump.

❌They deleted records/hid evidence
❌They colluded with Fani Willis
❌They promoted false testimony
❌They witness tampered

It was a failed attempt at lawfare.

Those involved should be condemned NOT REWARDED.
10:30 AM · Jan 3, 2025
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A great surrogate, smart, bold, young.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (NFX2v)

288 > I mean, the territories would all scream bloody murder too, because they don't have sufficient economy or industry to survive without Uncle Sam's largesse.

There are significant factions in Guam that really want to separate from the US. Every once in a while a vote comes up and it always falls just short of passing.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (Odg76)

289 Well, looks like we're putting our Johnson out there for now. But if this Johnson doesn't get it done, we can try with another Member.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (/7KEl)

If Johnson goes flaccid, we need someone that can stiffen up.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (tekkD)

290 When did "gift" become a verb?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (YqDXo)

291 And…….it’s……nanzi!

Posted by: Eromero at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (jgmnb)

292 Daily Mail and Fox are all Johnson

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (/7KEl)

293 When do they have to certify the election by and are there any other political shana Ivan's they can pull between now and then?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2025 03:01 PM (ZqIJU)

shana Ivan's??? Fen's been replaced by a russki bot!!!!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (0eaVi)

294 280 Alberta strikes me as a rich Democrat vote mine, should it ever decide to apply for statehood. I get that it has a lot of oil and ranching. I am all in favor of gaining another good ski mountain. And our rodeo circuit would applaud. But they have been Canadian for a long damn time up there, and would probably be Big Karen territory.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

You're confusing British Columbia with Alberta.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (Q8Bj8)

295 290 When did "gift" become a verb?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM (YqDXo)

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The 16th century.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

296 245 do we like it or do we hate it
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 02:57 PM (/7KEl)

Let’s remember how Johnson seeks to ram through funding for the means by which tyranny grows. On the other hand ….well that’s the problem, there is no other hand. Heads we lose, tails they win.

Posted by: 7man at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (P9AkI)

297 wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy Mace and AOC in this battle to select a Speaker.

Tops off, and vote accordingly.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Topless dueling, like they used to do in Germany

Posted by: Josephistan at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (y9ksN)

298 And then he tried to use the CR process 2 weeks ago to sneak through an effective pardon for Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Did he? Or did he get people on the record and make the proposal public for two days? That's not how you sneak something thru.

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (B46kE)

299 Yup... it's 'trust the system' thinking like about Bill Barr.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 02:54 PM (QAkQ3)

Don't you besmirch the good hard workin egg and bacon name of Billy Barr!!!

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (zxYJz)

300 honorable.....protip: they don't really mean it
Posted by: torabora at January 03, 2025 03:00 PM (0Gnoc)
_________________

But in the Newspeak sense, described above, it makes perfect sense.

The "historic and honorable" representative ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (YqDXo)

301
PUT A HELMET ON HIM
HE'S GOING INTO BATTLE

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (/7KEl)

302 222 The idea that Johnson is gonna advance the Trump agenda seems...unusual to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

Of course he will.
Posted by: Glenn John at January 03, 2025 02:55 PM (nnlvH)

Why else would Trump be supporting him?

He's MAGA all the way, even if he had to take some stands that he probably didn't like taking. Trump needs him in there, especially on 06JAN, and when you have that thin of a majority you have to do some unsavory things to stay in position sometimes.

Speaker Johnson was literally one of the few congressmen who was part of a challenge to the 2020 election, IIRC.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (hOOi9)

303 Forget about it. Territories are like Temporary Protected Status. Forever & ever.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (NFX2v)

304 >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison

why do you keep repeating yourself?

Posted by: cherries are the best at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (Ts066)

305 Tops off, and vote accordingly.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Perhaps you can send an e-mail to their offices suggesting that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (ZqIJU)

306
When did "gift" become a verb?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:03 PM

gift is not a verb

and "ask" is not a noun

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (tljrc)

307 Down goes Frazier!
Down goes Frazier!
Down goe....errr....never mind.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (W/lyH)

308 https://x.com/LibTearCreator1/status/1875242111010054541

Y’all see this yet? Grain of salt but it’ll be dropped on the Shawn Ryan show.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (eZwyX)

309 This is fucking stupid, and I'm frankly sick of Massie and Roy's crap.

Johnson isn't my ideal choice, nowhere near to my ideal choice, but HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD WIN.

It was absolutely the right move to get rid of McCarthy, even if there was no actual replacement, because we WANTED to government paralyzed, and McCarthy was 'negotiating' with Democrats to give them everything they wanted. We were perfectly content to let them spend 12 months voting on a Speaker.

Now that's no longer the case. This is going to end with a couple RINOs crossing over and making Speaker Jeffries.

Roy and Massie can just fuck off.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (lCHt6)

310 Wow, multiple headlines LYING about not passing Johnson on the first vote, saying not ready to Govern...

Can you say mis information boys and girls? I knew you could...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (QAkQ3)

311 I wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy...

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (NMT5x)

Almost had a heart attack here! Good golly man, think of the wording! I almost thought the next word was Pelosi.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (0eaVi)

312 302 Why else would Trump be supporting him?

He's MAGA all the way, even if he had to take some stands that he probably didn't like taking. Trump needs him in there, especially on 06JAN, and when you have that thin of a majority you have to do some unsavory things to stay in position sometimes.

Speaker Johnson was literally one of the few congressmen who was part of a challenge to the 2020 election, IIRC.
Posted by: MrExcitement at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (hOOi9)

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And he promised to stop the CR process 11 months ago, and he tried to sneak through a CR that gave legal protections to Liz Cheney for her crimes on the 1/6 committee.

I'll take his recent history as Speaker as evidence of how he'll be as Speaker instead of his ancient history as a backbencher.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

313 So, the Viagra's starting to kick in?

Jewess hair rays are all natural. Ask any imam.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 03, 2025 03:07 PM (QZThv)

314 And as for Ontario, I'm good with the northern lakes or Georgian Bay but would you really want Toronto with all that traffic? NFW. Plus, if Toronto really joined, would we then have to feel sorry for the hapless Leafs? And Windsor? Really?

Nah, no way. Leave Ontario alone.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:07 PM (0/sxd)

315 When did "gift" become a verb?

Millennials. They use "adult" as a verb as well. Everything is a verb to hipster douchebags. Its faux wit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 03:07 PM (RsS92)

316 This is going to end with a couple RINOs crossing over and making Speaker Jeffries.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (lCHt6)

Mein Fuhrer ... das vote ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) tugs collar at January 03, 2025 03:07 PM (aD39U)

317 > I'd rather keep Guam and calve off Hawaii.

Remember when a Hawaii Supreme Court Justice cited the Spirit of Aloha when deciding against a man carrying a gun in his waistband? Bonhomme remembers.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:08 PM (Odg76)

318 Looks like letting the Dems steal all the House and Senate seats is costing us already.

I hope Trump is prepared to have a forensic analysis of say the Hovde theft as a top agenda for his DOJ...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 03, 2025 03:08 PM (t0Rmr)

319 304 >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison

why do you keep repeating yourself?
Posted by: cherries are the best at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (Ts066)

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Because people keep needing a reminder that Johnson literally tried to protect Liz Cheney from legal consequences for her literal crimes.

They act like this terrible thing didn't happen and that supporting Johnson is just the best thing to do because otherwise Trump won't be able to get his cabinet through the Senate or something.

Why do the defenders of the status quo not want to talk about it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)

320 Forget about it. Territories are like Temporary Protected Status. Forever & ever.
Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (NFX2v)
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Like income taxes. Temporary and then forever.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (0/sxd)

321 297 wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy Mace and AOC in this battle to select a Speaker.

Tops off, and vote accordingly.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Topless dueling, like they used to do in Germany
Posted by: Josephistan at January 03, 2025 03:04 PM (y9ksN)

I like where your head's at, but I think I'd prefer Anna Paulina Luna for the GOP in that contest.

Posted by: Octochicken at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (oCS0o)

322 Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat

QUACK

Posted by: Ducks for Trump at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (v0R5T)

323 308 https://x.com/LibTearCreator1/status/1875242111010054541

Y’all see this yet? Grain of salt but it’ll be dropped on the Shawn Ryan show.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (eZwyX)

I would have booted a segment with Major Ed Dames for this!

Posted by: Zombie Art Bell at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (lg881)

324 https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/01/03/

mike-johnson-speakership-vote-n4935636

For crying out loud Johnson won. Remove the line break to check the link.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (rYoXG)

325 311 I wanted to see a "tit off" between Nancy...

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM

Nancy and show you her hip replacement scar and her tits at the same time. They're both in the same area.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (+oR7L)

326 Johnson needs to stop his grandstanding and betrayals.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (bXvrr)

327 Here's what I think:

We have a Speaker and a slim majority
Let's get started on Trumpapalooza '24: This Time It's Bigly, and see if we can win a few battles first. Then, if people still aren't thrilled by Johnson, maybe think about a change.

for now, show a united front

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (/7KEl)

328 Nobody wants the fucking Quebecois, either.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (UE/EX)

329 The central problem we have here is that a lot of nominal elected Republicans don't want to advance conservatism.

If the Dems were in the same boat they would get every D to vote for whoever they determined should be speaker.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (t0Rmr)

330 Johnson is speaker. Win some lose some

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (ilHZO)

331 318 Looks like letting the Dems steal all the House and Senate seats is costing us already.

I hope Trump is prepared to have a forensic analysis of say the Hovde theft as a top agenda for his DOJ...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 03, 2025 03:08 PM (t0Rmr)

=======

The Census Bureau admitted it misappropriated 17 House seats in the 2020 Census, mostly to the benefit of blue states at the cost of red states.

CA stealing seats through extended counting is still a thing and accounts for some of the thinness of the majority, but the major story is how the Census made a "whoopsie" and never fixed it even after they admitted it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

332 gift is not a verb

and "ask" is not a noun

Can I axe you a question?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (Odg76)

333
The hollywood celery who calls hisself "Ice-T" took time out from peddling fake car warranties to berate a police officer for pulling him over:

https://youtu.be/AefiTqJ9Aw8?si=NKfHYYEQLXT_-mlI

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (JraRV)

334 I don't see Johnson as a Damn the Torpedos! type.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Tha last CR omnibus cock-up with all that wacky Democrat crap inside of it tells you much about Speaker Johnson. That bill been in the making for weeks if not months. Speaker Johnson was the lap dog of the Democrats until Trump lit his ass up. So yeah he's a complete squish but he can be educated with a little bit of head thumping. It seems he's best when he's kept on a short leash with a choke collar.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (Q8Bj8)

335 278 Both Fox and Newsmax are reporting that Johnson got enough votes to retain. Some of the feckless retards who voted no evidently changed votes or some D's flipped.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 03, 2025 03:02 PM (4beqN)

Apparently the dissenters got the attention (and whatever else) that they craved, and Congress can get on with its business.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (hOOi9)

336 306 gift is not a verb

and "ask" is not a noun
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 03, 2025 03:06 PM (tljrc)

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Gift has been a verb since the 16th century.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

337 CNN, What we're covering

• Speaker chosen: Mike Johnson was elected speaker of the House today after flipping two GOP opponents, but he’ll face a big challenge in Congress with the narrowest House majority in nearly 100 years. See the vote here.

• Trump’s involvement: President-elect Donald Trump spoke to the two holdouts, Reps. Ralph Norman and Keith Self, as the vote was held open to give Republicans time to secure their backing for Johnson, multiple sources told CNN.

• Victory certification: Looming over the vote was the question of what would happen if the House had not elected a speaker by Monday, the day lawmakers are supposed to certify Trump’s win in the presidential election.

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (NFX2v)

338 Hmmm.... so, just how do you elect a different speaker, if no one else is allowed to even run? How does that work?

Is it all behind closed door private meetings?

or, is this like the Dem Prez last election... select on bad candidate and be damned if you don't vote for them...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (QAkQ3)

339 >>Posted by: TheJamesMadison

why do you keep repeating yourself?

>>>>>Posted by: cherries are the best at January 03, 2025 03:05 PM (Ts066)

Heh. Are you new here?

Because he loves to hear himself talk (or see himself write) and he confuses volume with quality.

Posted by: test pattern at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (mMbvc)

340
Since when do famous celeries go to the DMV themselves??

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (JraRV)

341 why do you keep repeating yourself?

Because I like tits.

Posted by: guy who always yells: "Show us yer tits!" at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (v0R5T)

342 The Left will say Trump is illegitimate no matter what happens.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (ynpvh)

343 Millennials. They use "adult" as a verb as well. Everything is a verb to hipster douchebags. Its faux wit.

I don't think Millenials are the reason "gift" became a verb. I believe that one came from corpo-speak.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (Odg76)

344 Why do the defenders of the status quo not want to talk about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)
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Because the battle is long over. When Johnson first was running I said everything I could say to persuade people he would be very bad news, but that battle is long lost. The new battle is to pass Trump's agenda, and Trump is persuaded this Speakership battle, at worst, can only hurt that effort. So, put aside your very justified objections to Johnson and let Trump deal with his inevitable treasons.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (0/sxd)

345 Trump on Truth just congratulated Johnson on the win.

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (Ag3aL)

346 328 Nobody wants the fucking Quebecois, either.
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 03:09 PM (UE/EX)

I don't know - all that hydropower plus poutine makes it a net gain.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (eb5mD)

347 We didn't need this crap holding up Trump. There is time to deal with Johnson later.

Remember, the Dems win by sticking together no matter what. They are a sticky bunch.

Posted by: fd at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (vFG9F)

348 >>Because people keep needing a reminder that Johnson literally tried to protect Liz Cheney from legal consequences for her literal crimes.

They act like this terrible thing didn't happen and that supporting Johnson is just the best thing to do because otherwise Trump won't be able to get his cabinet through the Senate or something.

Why do the defenders of the status quo not want to talk about it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

i don’t need you to “remind me” about anything, let alone every other comment.

Posted by: cherries are the best at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (Ts066)

349 320. Like income taxes. Temporary and then forever.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Exactly!

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (NFX2v)

350 Isn't Hank Johnson the guy that sells propane and propane products?

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (g8Ew8)

351 333
The hollywood celery who calls hisself "Ice-T" took time out from peddling fake car warranties to berate a police officer for pulling him over:

https://youtu.be/AefiTqJ9Aw8?si=NKfHYYEQLXT_-mlI
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (JraRV)
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There has never been a bigger corporate sellout vagina in the history of mass media than Ice-T. Supposed Hard Ass Brother from the Streets makes an album called "Cop Killer" about how Hard he is and that he shoots at the police.

Fast forward like three years later and the dude lands a role playing a cop on TV which he rides like Secretariat for the next 20+ years.

Real Hard Pipe Hitting Brother over here, y'all.

Posted by: ballistic at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (qlmTX)

352 344 Because the battle is long over. When Johnson first was running I said everything I could say to persuade people he would be very bad news, but that battle is long lost. The new battle is to pass Trump's agenda, and Trump is persuaded this Speakership battle, at worst, can only hurt that effort. So, put aside your very justified objections to Johnson and let Trump deal with his inevitable treasons.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:12 PM (0/sxd)

=======

I never thought it would end any way other than to have Johnson as Speaker.

I only thought the fight was worth having because Johnson deserves to grovel for his job, which he seemingly did.

Bad Speakers shouldn't be retained by acclimation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)

353 >>>I'll take his recent history as Speaker as evidence of how he'll be as Speaker instead of his ancient history as a backbencher.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot
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Yes, he will follow the White House advice on important matters.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (5KR1B)

354 Nancy Mace will come.

Posted by: Steiner at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (aD39U)

355 341 why do you keep repeating yourself?

Because I like tits.

Posted by: guy who always yells: "Show us yer tits!" at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (v0R5T)

Pics of a pair of great tits:
https://tinyurl.com/5yjw34sd

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

356 Anti-inflammatory drugs taken by millions of pregnant women around the world may raise the risk of autism in their babies.

A study looked at the impact on children who are exposed to glucocorticoids - a class of steroids - in the womb.

Those prenatally exposed to the drugs were between 30 and 50 percent more likely to be diagnosed with autism compared to children whose mothers did not take them.
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This is interesting to go along with my theory about birth control pills being the cause of the rise of autism as well as this gender crap. It's not about prenatal exposure obviously but they are steroids and women are on them for long period of time excuse the pun.

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (zxYJz)

357 293 When do they have to certify the election by and are there any other political shana Ivan's they can pull between now and then?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Jan 6 is the electoral vote count when they are opened and counted but ironically the Electoral Count Act passed after 2021 by Dems makes it more difficult to challenge electoral votes.

Key feature is Kamala presiding as VP if she actually shows up.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (ctrM5)

358 re 331: i still think we need a federal law to require all ballots received by the times the polls close on election day and all votes must be counted by, say, noon the following thursday.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (CWTWj)

359 https://tinyurl.com/nhh4tmb9

"Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., initially voted for Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, but flipped his vote to Johnson. Rep. Keith Self, R-Pa., cast his vote for Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla, but also flipped."

"Johnson ended with 218 votes, the bare minimum."

Posted by: MSYB at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (J4Q0Z)

360 Because he loves to hear himself talk (or see himself write) and he confuses volume with quality.
Posted by: test pattern at January 03, 2025 03:11 PM (mMbvc)
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Wow. Your selfie statement is nastily unattractive. In my experience, TJM writes both with quality and thoughtfulness, and he doesn't mistake forceful rhetoric for nasty personal comments.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (0/sxd)

361 354 Nancy Mace will come.

Posted by: Steiner at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (aD39U)

I'm sure more than a few morons would help with that...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (ynpvh)

362 Isn't Hank Johnson the guy that sells propane and propane products?
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (g8Ew

That's Henry Hill.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (tekkD)

363 > Nancy Mace will come.

Title of your sex tape?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (Odg76)

364 K would think Nanzi is drugged up a bit

Posted by: Skip at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (fwDg9)

365 Tha last CR omnibus cock-up with all that wacky Democrat crap inside of it tells you much about Speaker Johnson. That bill been in the making for weeks if not months. Speaker Johnson was the lap dog of the Democrats until Trump lit his ass up. So yeah he's a complete squish but he can be educated with a little bit of head thumping. It seems he's best when he's kept on a short leash with a choke collar.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (Q8Bj

Undoubtedly, Trump (and Johnson) got exactly what they wanted out of that episode - a lot of bad press about what Congress is doing. Given the very, very, very slim majority, and the fact that there are still a fair number of Uniparty "Republicans", that's all they were going to be able to get at this point.

Speaker Johnson is pure MAGA, or he wouldn't have "magically" materialized out of nowhere to take the Speakership in the first place.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (hOOi9)

366 360 Wow. Your selfie statement is nastily unattractive. In my experience, TJM writes both with quality and thoughtfulness, and he doesn't mistake forceful rhetoric for nasty personal comments.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (0/sxd)

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But I do! I do mistake the two!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

367 Pics of a pair of great tits:
https://tinyurl.com/5yjw34sd
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

I knew what it was before I even clicked. But I clicked anyway just in case.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (eb5mD)

368 How tall is Johnson?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (aD39U)

369
Question: Is Matt Gaetz still in the House??

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (JraRV)

370 Here is Shawn Ryan interviewing Sam Shoemate, a former intel guy, this morning. Shoemate received a manifesto-like email from the LV cyber truck 'splodey-dope just prior the attack:

https://tinyurl.com/Holy-Shit-Terror-Email

Posted by: Sharkman at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (+JWyd)

371 Johnson is speechifying now.

Onward, MAGA.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (4tmpE)

372 Wawa waaaaaa
Johnson won anyway

Posted by: Skip at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

373 Bad Speakers shouldn't be retained by acclimation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Since when do we confuse House business with the right thing to do?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (0/sxd)

374 > That's Henry Hill.

That's the guy who made cars, you're thinking of Gerald Ford.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (Odg76)

375 367 Pics of a pair of great tits:
https://tinyurl.com/5yjw34sd
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

I knew what it was before I even clicked. But I clicked anyway just in case.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (eb5mD)

There's a reason why folks still click on Ackbar links...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

376 Cluck, Meow, Quack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF9R5aWFzkA

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (RsS92)

377 369
Question: Is Matt Gaetz still in the House??
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (JraRV)

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No, he resigned effective immediately when Trump announced his AG nomination. He didn't get to take it back when Gaetz refused the nomination a week-ish later.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

378 Well this is a lot of happy talk from both the GOP and Dems, I wonder how much more expensive things are going to get with them all saying they are going to work together to make things less expensive for the American People?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (XV/Pl)

379 Question: Is Matt Gaetz still in the House??
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (JraRV)

I think he could be if he wanted to be, but he doesn't, so his seat is empty until a Special Election.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (aD39U)

380 Key feature is Kamala presiding as VP if she actually shows up.

If she's too hung over to get on a plane back to Washington, is the Speaker next in the succession for the Senate?

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (Ag3aL)

381 Anti-inflammatory drugs taken by millions of pregnant women around the world may raise the risk of smacky mouth harelips and flippers.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with interpretive dance and festive little caps at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (QajKI)

382 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

Very nice. Thanks, and thanks for the old time humor.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (MQJVv)

383 359 https://tinyurl.com/nhh4tmb9

"Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., initially voted for Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, but flipped his vote to Johnson. Rep. Keith Self, R-Pa., cast his vote for Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla, but also flipped."

"Johnson ended with 218 votes, the bare minimum."
Posted by: MSYB at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (J4Q0Z)

I guess that explains how the initial report is that the Speaker was not re-elected, but now we're hearing that he was re-elected on the FIRST ballot.

Posted by: MrExcitement at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (hOOi9)

384 Isn't Hank Johnson the guy that sells propane and propane products?
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

That's Hank Hill. Howard Johnson sells rooms.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (5n7Gi)

385 Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.

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Nothing in this world is more important to some people than power, they will do anything to wield it. That is why they should not be anywhere near it.

Posted by: Decaf at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (unUNN)

386 > How tall is Johnson?

Erect or flaccid?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (Odg76)

387 No, he resigned effective immediately when Trump announced his AG nomination. He didn't get to take it back when Gaetz refused the nomination a week-ish later.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

He resigned his old seat, but he was reelected and hadn't been sworn in when he resigned.

But clearly he doesn't want the job.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (aD39U)

388 The House looks like a retirement home........

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (c1UUT)

389 Well at the very least. Maybe that little shit Mikey Johnson knows he's on a short leash.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (ewjUl)

390 Fast forward like three years later and the dude lands a role playing a cop on TV which he rides like Secretariat for the next 20+ years.

LOL yeah he still tries to play the tough guy but its only surpassed in comical reversal by Rage Against the Machine telling everyone to obey the government's Wuhan Flu orders.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (RsS92)

391 I only thought the fight was worth having because Johnson deserves to grovel for his job, which he seemingly did.

Bad Speakers shouldn't be retained by acclimation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm rather disappointed he didn't have to wear a ball gag and had lipstick dildos painted on his cheeks as he sat there when the vote was going on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (Q8Bj8)

392 @368 Grumpy928-usually women ask how long it is.

Posted by: JROD at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (IlL6s)

393
So fuckface Gaetz with the stupid botox face left an Empty Seat in the House?

That's just fucking great.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (JraRV)

394 The changers...

Chad Pergram @ChadPergram 34m
Self and Norman switch their votes to Johnson. Johnson should have the votes

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (hovnC)

395 PBS dot org: WATCH LIVE: Biden awards Medal of Honor to military heroes, first responders

In part, "Biden will bestow the medal posthumously to six men and one living recipient at a White House ceremony. In a separate Oval Office ceremony closed to the news media, he will award the Medal of Valor to eight first responders who put their own lives at risk to save others."

Also, "On Friday, Biden is also awarding eight people the Medal of Valor, which goes to those who have shown exceptional courage in attempting to save human lives.

The recipients include the law enforcement officials who responded to a shooter who killed six people on March 27, 2023, at The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.

The Nashville Police Department’s Sgt. Jeffrey Mathes, Officer Rex Engelbert and Detectives Michael Collazo, Ryan Cagle and Zachary Plese rushed to the scene and faced gunfire from the shooter. They cleared out classrooms and ultimately took down the shooter."

Posted by: L - Hook him, book him, cook him. Now! at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (NFX2v)

396 The House looks like a retirement home........
Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM

WHAT? SPEAK UP! OH, BINGO! HAHA! TAKE THAT DORIS!

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (ewjUl)

397 When James Madison himself was in the House I bet he didn't tolerate any bullshit. Short, maybe, but tough. And having a hot wife helped. Who can say as much today?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (0/sxd)

398 Back before the Internet we never knew anything about this kind of stuff.

Posted by: Geezer at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (DobEs)

399 Everyone can fvck around later but we needed republicans to vote for one person to get the 2025 ball rolling, if johnson had not won Trump could not have been sworn in.

Plus if enough idiots voted for other people we could have seriously been looking at a democrat speaker winning the vote in a republican house, that is how close this is.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (Rcnd3)

400 397 When James Madison himself was in the House I bet he didn't tolerate any bullshit. Short, maybe, but tough. And having a hot wife helped. Who can say as much today?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (0/sxd)

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He liked to make dirty jokes while Dolley gave him piggyback rides.*

*This is 100% true and not at all a joke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

401
I know Gaetz has a stupid show on Newsmax, but wasn't sure if he left us an Empty Seat.

Nice going, shitforbrains.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (JraRV)

402 "and "ask" is not a noun"

It is in the entertainment business. Elsewhere as well.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (zSyrn)

403 >>I'll take his recent history as Speaker as evidence of how he'll be as Speaker instead of his ancient history as a backbencher.

When Trump leaned on him, did he fight Trump or did he back off and acquiesce?

He got in line, because Trump was no longer the de facto Head of the Republican Party, he was the Elected Head of the Party.

When the CR was negotiated and put to paper, Trump was merely the Candidate.

Now, was he wrong at the inception of the CR Debate and in the endorsement of that outcome? Yes.

Did he go to the mat for it? No. He backed off.

You keep ignoring it, but there is a difference when you are the Opposition and when you are the Majority.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (UE/EX)

404 Back before the Internet we never knew anything about this kind of stuff.
Posted by: Geezer at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (DobEs)

and we were grateful.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (aD39U)

405 The House looks like a retirement home........
Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (c1UUT)

Tales From The Crypt

Posted by: Hatari Johnson at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (S+j2h)

406 399 Everyone can fvck around later but we needed republicans to vote for one person to get the 2025 ball rolling, if johnson had not won Trump could not have been sworn in.

Plus if enough idiots voted for other people we could have seriously been looking at a democrat speaker winning the vote in a republican house, that is how close this is.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (Rcnd3)

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This isn't true.

The House could have still counted the electoral votes without a Speaker.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (GBKbO)

407 How tall is Johnson?
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I hope not 5' 7"!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (hovnC)

408 Did Nutzi show up in her new wheelchair?

Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

409 I'm rather disappointed he didn't have to wear a ball gag and had lipstick dildos painted on his cheeks as he sat there when the vote was going on.

Hold him down and chief the crap out of him with permanent markers right before the speech. Really humiliating stuff. OK You got the job, but remember we're not putting up with this crap any more, got it?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (RsS92)

410 So fuckface Gaetz with the stupid botox face left an Empty Seat in the House?

That's just fucking great.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM

I think it's a pretty reliable red district. Something I never liked about him. Glad he's gone.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (ewjUl)

411 But I do! I do mistake the two!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

Sure but that's more out of spite than anything else. Or am I confusing you with me

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (zxYJz)

412 I'm rather disappointed he didn't have to wear a ball gag and had lipstick dildos painted on his cheeks as he sat there when the vote was going on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (Q8Bj

He only does that at congressional parties.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (0eaVi)

413 412 I'm rather disappointed he didn't have to wear a ball gag and had lipstick dildos painted on his cheeks as he sat there when the vote was going on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at January 03, 2025 03:19 PM (Q8Bj

He only does that at congressional parties.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (0eaVi)

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He calls it fancy dress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM (GBKbO)

414 386 > How tall is Johnson?

Erect or flaccid?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 03, 2025 03:18 PM (Odg76)

Seems you're implying he's quite the dick...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

415 373 Bad Speakers shouldn't be retained by acclimation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Since when do we confuse House business with the right thing to do?
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Watching legislation being made is about the same as watching your livestock converted into sausage. Not for those with queasy dispositions.

Essentially, rational choice theory clearly lays out the problems of democratic governance--see Cordocet's Paradox. Only way to eliminate it in a legislative operations is via a ruthless dictatorship within the chamber whether by leadership or by a Caucus with binding punishments on defectors.

Still does not guarantee good governance because even here, people disagree what is 'good governance' and what should and shouldn't be funded.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ctrM5)

416 >>Posted by: Sharkman at January 03, 2025 03:16 PM (+JWyd)

Oooh...thanks for this link and Heads Up.

Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2025 03:23 PM (UE/EX)

417 WHAT? SPEAK UP! OH, BINGO! HAHA! TAKE THAT DORIS!
Posted by: Steny Hoyer at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (ewjUl)

Stop razzing me about Doris.

Posted by: Lileks at January 03, 2025 03:23 PM (0eaVi)

418 Still does not guarantee good governance because even here, people disagree what is 'good governance' and what should and shouldn't be funded.
Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ctrM5)

The only good governance....

Posted by: ... at January 03, 2025 03:23 PM (zxYJz)

419 Massie is joke-virtue signaling about what a lone crusader he is, taking the hits of standing up for principle. Such a lone crusader for all that is right but unpopular. He loves it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 03, 2025 03:23 PM (UseAb)

420 He calls it fancy dress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM

Some balls are held for charity, some held for fancy dress. But when their held for pleasure are the balls I like best.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:24 PM (ewjUl)

421 >>I think it's a pretty reliable red district. Something I never liked about him. Glad he's gone.

it will take a while before that seat gets filled. Usually sixty days to up to a half year. Reps can't be appointed, only replaced via a full special election.

Posted by: ace at January 03, 2025 03:24 PM (KRtlO)

422 Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.
......

She must have got hooked on German goofballs.

Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

423 @387

>>But clearly he doesn't want the job.

It's a shitty thankless job that he obviously wasn't leveraging to enrich himself.

I remember when the McCarthy fight was happening, he was confronted by a gaggle of reporters and they were haranguing him, he stated his case as said, "I've been here for 8 f**king years and we don't have a budget, I'm sick of this sh*t!!"

So apparently he had had enough of masturbation theater.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (XV/Pl)

424 "and "ask" is not a noun"

Neither is "IN-vite."

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (zdLoL)

425
You know what else "the kids" like to say all the time, now?

The phrase "living that _____ life."

For instance, if they're making a stupid youtube or instagram video and there happens to be, say, a bag of Doritos in the camera's view, they'll say, "I'm living that Doritos life, haha."

Idiots.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (JraRV)

426 421 >>I think it's a pretty reliable red district. Something I never liked about him. Glad he's gone.

it will take a while before that seat gets filled. Usually sixty days to up to a half year. Reps can't be appointed, only replaced via a full special election.
Posted by: ace at January 03, 2025 03:24 PM (KRtlO)

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The clock started in November, I think.

DeSantis said he'd schedule it as fast as possible.

So, it looks like it's starting this month. The primary seems to be scheduled for 1/25.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

427 This isn't true.

The House could have still counted the electoral votes without a Speaker.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Possibly, possibly not but for now not an issue.

Courts have never ruled directly exactly what Congressional powers are regarding elections and challenges for the presidency. Clear enough on their own elections as both bodies have plenary power to seat who the majority votes as the 'winner' regardless of what voters. Has to do with whether the count is a ministerial action or one with discretion.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (ctrM5)

428 How tall is Johnson?

Erect or flaccid?
Posted by: bonhomme

Give him Viagra and he'll gain 7 inches.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (5n7Gi)

429 it will take a while before that seat gets filled. Usually sixty days to up to a half year. Reps can't be appointed, only replaced via a full special election.
Posted by: ace at January 03, 2025 03:24 PM

That long? Ugh. Well I am still glad in a way he is gone. Dude has a creepy vibe.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (ewjUl)

430
Like, right now, I'm living that AoS life. Haha.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (JraRV)

431 427 Possibly, possibly not but for now not an issue.

Courts have never ruled directly exactly what Congressional powers are regarding elections and challenges for the presidency. Clear enough on their own elections as both bodies have plenary power to seat who the majority votes as the 'winner' regardless of what voters. Has to do with whether the count is a ministerial action or one with discretion.
Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (ctrM5)

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Essentially, they could have elected a temporary Speaker and moved on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

432 Still does not guarantee good governance because even here, people disagree what is 'good governance' and what should and shouldn't be funded.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM (ctrM5)

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Remember Ross Perot's "Electronic Town Hall?"

Of course that would be a pure democracy -- AKA "Tyranny of The Majority."

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (O8Sub)

433 Some balls are held for charity, some held for fancy dress. But when their held for pleasure are the balls I like best.

Burma Shave.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with interpretive dance and festive little caps at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (QajKI)

434 420 He calls it fancy dress.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:22 PM

Some balls are held for charity, some held for fancy dress. But when their held for pleasure are the balls I like best.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:24 PM (ewjUl)

sounds like some AC/DC songs...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

435 Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.
......

She must have got hooked on German goofballs.
Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM

Yea, like 30 years ago.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (ewjUl)

436 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 1h
Democrat Delegate Stacey Plaskett has a meltdown and has to have the rules explained to her.

Siraj Hashmi @SirajAHashmi 1h
Stacey Plaskett? The same Stacey Plaskett who solicited campaign donations from Jeffrey Epstein? *That* Stacey Plaskett? You mean the Democrat delegate from the Virgin Islands who reached out to meet with Jeffrey Epstein after his child sex crimes were publicly known? *THAT* Stacey Plaskett??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (hovnC)

437 422 Nancy Pelosi is falling asleep during the Speaker vote.
......

She must have got hooked on German goofballs.

Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

She's racing Biden to the bottom...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

438 >PBS dot org: WATCH LIVE: Biden awards Medal of Honor to military heroes, first responders
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The country's highest honor, bestowed by a senile old man and arguably the worst President in American history

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (/7KEl)

439 Gift has been a verb since the 16th century.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
__________________

Time to retire it, then.

It conveys nothing that "give" doesn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (YqDXo)

440 439 Time to retire it, then.

It conveys nothing that "give" doesn't.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (YqDXo)

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The next Newspeak dictionary update should get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

441 Why do sh*tholes like the Virgin Islands and Guam and Puerto Rico even have people in *our* House of Representatives?

Johnson needs to kick these pseudo-Representative grifters out. End this bs. And, preferably, ditch all of these terrorities.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (y/TVv)

442 Like, right now, I'm living that AoS life.

Not me, I'm not drinking enough.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with interpretive dance and festive little caps at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (QajKI)

443 Headline at Fox news website says Johnson is being sworn it.

Posted by: Dave's not here, man at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (raPis)

444 430
Like, right now, I'm living that AoS life. Haha.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:26 PM (JraRV)

AoS Cardboard Member Life...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (ynpvh)

445 439 Gift has been a verb since the 16th century.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Time to retire it, then.

It conveys nothing that "give" doesn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:27 PM (YqDXo)

The German is a noun meaning poison...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:29 PM (ynpvh)

446 "and "ask" is not a noun"

Neither is "IN-vite."

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (zdLoL)
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Neither is "install."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

447
Ice-T is living that fake gangster life, haha.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (JraRV)

448 I fookin' HATE politicians. This is all so fargin' stupid!

Posted by: Joe Schlabotnik at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (Ad8y9)

449 I am not Bloody Dead yet !!!

I still have 16 days to screw you over and I intend to make sure this happens............

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (7uGna)

450
Ace is living that shelf life.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (JraRV)

451 I'm glad that stupid deal is over and get going ye worthless Congress critters. I basically hate everyone so bite moi. There should be term limits for the House and Senate. Twice each then vamoose so I don't hate you all so much and you actually attempt to get something done vs wandering around patting your own asses and slobbering over each other. Fake. You are all phony idiots.

Two terms would also not allow them to gather wealth, which is all 90% or more care about, through fund raising for their next election or insider trading. And their dam parties and dinners, paid by us.

I am trying and failing to think of any of them I like.

I hope President Trump cleans the damn house, sweeps all the deadbeats out. Writes EO's til his hand cramps if necessary. Passes a budget, which won't be balanced probably ever again or until my grandchildren care. Let's effing roll!

SICK OF POLITICS, their games, their ugly mugs, their octogerian players. Their AOC's. Their fakeness. Their hollow heads that thump like ripe melons. HATE THEM

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (gi+MR)

452 446 "and "ask" is not a noun"

Neither is "IN-vite."

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (zdLoL)
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Neither is "install."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

re: invite and install;
-tion suffixes: how do they work?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (ynpvh)

453 Did Nutzi show up in her new wheelchair?

Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

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Do they make flying brooms for broken hips?

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (O8Sub)

454
Just think:

In the olden days, the new president would have to wait another 43 days to be sworn in. Imagine another 43 days with biden...

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (JraRV)

455 450
Ace is living that shelf life.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (JraRV)

ewok on a shelf >>> elf on a shelf

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (ynpvh)

456 Johnson needs to kick these pseudo-Representative grifters out. End this bs. And, preferably, ditch all of these terrorities.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 03, 2025 03:28 PM (y/TVv)

The Chicoms say, "Yes. Please do this".

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (g8Ew8)

457 The German is a noun meaning poison...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:29 PM (ynpvh)
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True.

I'd like to gift Gift to people who use "gift" as a verb. Verbers?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

458 nood britain

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (GBKbO)

459 No, Massie does Not have a nomination for Sec of Ag. It's some woman. I suspect Massie was floating that idea

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (NQtI0)

460 Did Nancy walk in with a cane or was she wheeled in like McConnel?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (gi+MR)

461 Nood

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 03, 2025 03:32 PM (58I7G)

462 453 Did Nutzi show up in her new wheelchair?

Posted by: wth at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

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Do they make flying brooms for broken hips?

Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (O8Sub)

Well, maybe if it's stuck up the ass...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:32 PM (ynpvh)

463 it will take a while before that seat gets filled. Usually sixty days to up to a half year. Reps can't be appointed, only replaced via a full special election.
Posted by: ace
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Differs whether the vacancy occurs during the second year of Congress or the first year. First year, I think the longest state stautory time period from the certified declaration of vacancy is 75 days or such by a state except in a few states where they have general or primary elections this year--NJ and VA, I think. Normal is more like 60 days from declaration of vacancy and some states allow party caucuses to declare candidates rather than hold a primary election.

Second session of Congress, depending on the timing of the resignation, it gets rolled up into general election season to save states money on elections.

Last term, I think, a GOPe critter in Wisconsin purposefully delayed his resignation just so that the seat could not be filled by special election.

Posted by: whig at January 03, 2025 03:32 PM (ctrM5)

464
But that would've been interesting in 2020/2021 if Inauguration Day was still March 4th.

Why, the Democrats could've fake-impeached President Trump 3 more times!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2025 03:32 PM (JraRV)

465 these pretzels are from North Dakota

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I care at January 03, 2025 03:32 PM (/7KEl)

466 452 446 "and "ask" is not a noun"

Neither is "IN-vite."

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:25 PM (zdLoL)
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Neither is "install."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

re: invite and install;
-tion suffixes: how do they work?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 03, 2025 03:31 PM (ynpvh)
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At this rate we'll be communicating with grunts and clicks while we pick bugs out of each other's fur.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 03, 2025 03:33 PM (YqDXo)

467 Everyone can fvck around later but we needed republicans to vote for one person to get the 2025 ball rolling, if johnson had not won Trump could not have been sworn in.

Plus if enough idiots voted for other people we could have seriously been looking at a democrat speaker winning the vote in a republican house, that is how close this is.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 03, 2025 03:20 PM (Rcnd3)

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This isn't true.

The House could have still counted the electoral votes without a Speaker.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:21 PM

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure the house rules are only the speaker can call a vote to count the EV's. I read that someplace recently, possibly on here.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 03, 2025 03:34 PM (Rcnd3)

468 467 I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure the house rules are only the speaker can call a vote to count the EV's. I read that someplace recently, possibly on here.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 03, 2025 03:34 PM (Rcnd3)

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It's not. The House votes on its own rules every Congress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

469 Thomas Bender,
When you said you were in northern PA, I figured you were a bit closer to the NY border. My home town is Knoxville, PA, about 3 miles from the border. You said that you live "in the middle of nowhere" - Knoxville has a population of about 630 as opposed to Tobyhanna at 8300. Good to meet you and HNY.

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at January 03, 2025 03:41 PM (sMkAM)

470 465 these pretzels are from North Dakota

And they're making me thirty!

Posted by: Kramer at January 03, 2025 03:46 PM (DobEs)

471 *thirsty

Posted by: Kramer at January 03, 2025 03:46 PM (DobEs)

472 The 1644 use of "gifted" is not a verb but an adjective.

They didn't say "I gifted a horse to him."
They said "He is a gifted horseman." It means "he has received a gift."

Language is the engineering of thought. Some guys seem to think (you could stop right there) that if they nail something up and it hasn't fallen on them yet, they're an architect. Write that sloppy shit down, sign it, go into court against a Philadelphia lawyer, and bring your own K-Y. You'll need it.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:48 PM (zdLoL)

473 472 The 1644 use of "gifted" is not a verb but an adjective.

They didn't say "I gifted a horse to him."
They said "He is a gifted horseman." It means "he has received a gift."

Language is the engineering of thought. Some guys seem to think (you could stop right there) that if they nail something up and it hasn't fallen on them yet, they're an architect. Write that sloppy shit down, sign it, go into court against a Philadelphia lawyer, and bring your own K-Y. You'll need it.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 03, 2025 03:48 PM (zdLoL)

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The earliest is 1550 or so from A merry Ieste of a shrewde and curst Wyfe.

"Be gyfted them richely with right good speede."

https://www.luminarium.org/
renascence-editions/jest.html

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 03, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

474 no update ? this is old news ... Johnson won ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at January 03, 2025 03:57 PM (DBAaD)

475 The moving finger has moved on.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 03, 2025 03:58 PM (aD39U)

476 Johnson is Trump certified.

All of Johnson's mistakes are on Trump.

Posted by: eddie at January 03, 2025 04:55 PM (4+Tgo)

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