"The Rise and Fall of the Never Trump Machine"

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At TomKlingenstein.com, by Hayden Ludwig.

Interesting read! You might like it if you like Kremlinology, the study of the workings of the Kremlin. Only this is the Kremlin of the American Neocon/Neoliberal Regime.

Cruise ships added as commentary.

There's no understanding the Never Trump cabal without reading its flagship commentary website: The Bulwark.
The site operates as a hub for all things anti-Trump, charting the Right's descent (as they see it) into knuckle-dragging white supremacy, authoritarianism, and subservience to Moscow. It's a refuge for bitter Beltway relics of the Bush-Romney establishment who smugly cast themselves as the true heirs of Ronald Reagan, rather than out-of-touch elites more aligned with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden than the Gipper.
The Bulwark was founded by a handful of once-influential Beltway writers, most famously Bill Kristol, son of the late Irving Kristol and editor of the now-defunct Weekly Standard. But his co-founders, ex-Wisconsin radio host Charlie Sykes, who left the Bulwark for MSNBC in February, and Sarah Longwell, a political consultant and one-time chair of the LGBT group Log Cabin Republicans, are just as critical to The Bulwark's evolution into Never Trump's lodestar.

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With Kristol and Longwell at the helm, The Bulwark grew into the Kremlin for an organized network of anti-Trump forces that developed across Trump's first term. In a few short years, they transformed the jumbled anti-Trump forces into an eight-figure political ad machine for boosting Democrats, funded overwhelmingly by mega-donors on the Left.
But none of that would have been possible without support from a lesser-known D.C. group, the Niskanen Center, which set the stage for what became The Bulwark.
Though it's hardly a household name, the Niskanen Center is infamous in conservative Beltway circles as a gun-for-hire for Big Green activists. The think tank was born from a 2014 row within the libertarian Cato Institute over environmental policy led by then-Cato vice president Jerry Taylor. Taylor, who spent 20 years fighting as Cato's "lead climate denier," became convinced of the global warming threat and jumped ship to found his own left-leaning libertarian organization.

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(The obscure name was Taylor's way of flipping the middle finger to Cato. It comes from legendary Cato co-founder William Niskanen, Reagan's economic advisor and far from a global warmer, whose 2011 death sparked high drama within D.C. libertarianism and precipitated Taylor's split from the flagship of the movement.)

There is nothing pettier than a born bureaucrat.

The Niskanen Center's first project was selling conservatives on the merits of a carbon tax, a tax levied on companies' carbon dioxide emissions to punish them into reducing their CO2 footprint. In 2019, when I spent significant time exposing the growing coalition of "eco-Right" groups -- all funded by liberals -- the carbon tax push emerged as a dire and underreported threat to the Republican Party. The eco-Right gained support in Congress from squishy Republican congressmen such as Reps. Carlos Curbelo (FL) and Brian Fitzpatrick (PA), who tried to normalize global warming and carbon taxes as conservative issues. If successful, they could have split the fragile GOP and given Democrats a powerful electoral edge. They lost that fight, while Curbelo lost his seat.
As time went on, Niskanen's eco-proposals grew more extreme. At one point, Taylor -- writing with the Sierra Club's former climate counsel -- proposed fining companies for "increas[ing] the number and severity of wildfires, droughts, and flash flooding," which they blamed on climate change. For justification he cited James Hansen, Obama's radical NASA director who told Congress in 2008 that fossil fuel company "CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature." At the same time, Taylor opened a public feud with his own brother, James, who became head of the climate-skeptic Heartland Institute.

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Money immediately began pumping into the new organization from the Left. I've traced six- to eight-figure grants from major "green" funders: the Hewlett and Packard Foundations; League of Conservation Voters; the multi-billion-dollar Arabella Advisors network; Arnold Ventures, bankrolled by ex-Enron billionaire John Arnold; Carnegie Corporation (despite its name, a foundation); the Joyce Foundation, whose board once included Sen. Barack Obama; eBay founder Pierre Omidyar; and arch-progressive George Soros.
Soros, in particular, played an influential role in the Niskanen Center's retreat from libertarianism to leftism and the development of its positions on far more than climate change.
In 2019, Niskanen announced it was "leav[ing] ideology behind" for a new vision of an "open society" at the same time it was quietly receiving millions of dollars from Soros's Open Society Foundations. The phrase isn't a coincidence; in both cases it's taken from the writings of Karl Popper, an ex-Marxist philosopher whose definition of libertarianism hinged on social engineering programs. Soros credits Popper for inspiring his globalist attitude "that no philosophy or ideology is the final arbiter of truth." So, too, does Niskanen credit Popper in describing itself as a band of "globalists who share progressives' desire to robustly address economic and social inequality."
The Niskanen Center's reputation as a chisel to peel conservative voters away from the Republican Party has diminished along with the rest of the eco-Right (and climate fearmongering in general). Jerry Taylor himself left Niskanen in 2021 amid police reports that he'd drunkenly strangled and slapped his wife, to which he pleaded guilty. But at its peak the center was a vital hub for connecting Kristol and others who would become the masters of Never Trump Inc.

They're such good people.

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DDT for Democracy
Shortly after Donald Trump took office, Jerry Taylor invited distraught neocons to a series of quasi-secret gatherings he deemed "Meetings of the Concerned."
Besides Kristol and Longwell, the collection included George Conway (former husband of Kellyanne), Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the future Lincoln Project founders Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson. Those desperate first meetings between Longwell and Kristol resulted in a trifecta of new groups launched in January 2018 under the umbrella Defending Democracy Together, which bears the delightful acronym "DDT."

I didn't know that Kellyanne had finally divorced her cuck husband, but Wikipedia said she finally dropped this ugly troll in 2023.

Structurally, DDT consists of a 501(c)(3) "charitable" arm, which publishes The Bulwark; a 501(c)(4) arm that houses their attack group, Republicans for the Rule of Law; and the Republican Accountability PAC, variously branded "Republican Voters Against Trump" or simply "Republican Accountability." All share overlapping leadership and major donors.

The Bulwark is an "educational charity." Educational charities are not supposed to engage in partisan activities. But these fine people, dedicated to preserving the rule of law, violate the law every single day.

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Their goal is the same: humble the Republican Party into submission by helping Democrats beat Trump. Lick him hard enough and conservatives will soon abandon MAGA altogether. Then Kristol et al. can retake their rightful place at the head of the GOP, and all will be well in Washington.
So the theory goes. In reality, they quickly discovered the pool of anti-Trump conservative donors is trifling and has only shrunk since 2016. Hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, for instance, spent heavily to stop Trump's nomination in 2016 -- even engaging the now-notorious firm Fusion GPS -- but later changed his mind, contributing $5 million to a pro-Trump super PAC in 2024.
So DDT did the predictable: It cozied up to mega-donors on the Left.

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Really good article. I hope I haven't excepted too much.

Below, Adam Kinzinger explains to The Bulwark's liberal lesbian Sarah Longwell that the BLM riots and arsons weren't so bad because they didn't "threaten democracy."

Adam Kinzinger said it was okay for BLM to burn down cities in 2020 because it was in the name of democracy.

That is because BLM is part of the revolution business. 2020 was not organic and Derek Chauvin did not kill George Floyd. The riots were part of election theft season… pic.twitter.com/FFCIFD4Yhx
— The Researcher (@listen_2learn) January 1, 2025

That's absurd. Due to this terrorism, the US was scared into accepting a series of deranged leftwing racialist positions, including mass release of prisoners, decriminalizing crime, and enacting de facto Jim Crow hiring discrimination against whites that it never would have accepted if not for the terrorism.

"Democracy," meaning the freedom of the sovereign people to make decisions free of coercion, was in fact "destroyed" by BLM.

On the other hand, Trump was evicted from office with no real investigation into serious voting irregularities that we all know occurred in 2020.

The BLM terrorist riots were largely responsible for the chaos and insanity of 2020-2024:

Peter Boghossian
@peterboghossian
The most remarkable thing about the last decade was its sheer idiocy: Pretending not to know what a woman is, inventing conspiracies without conspirators, and labeling free speech as racist. It was a golden era for dangerous nonsense and intellectual laziness.

BLM insurrectionists prevailed, while J6ers were jailed. Seems clear who actually threatened, and in fact conquered, Muh Democracy, and who were easily brushed aside and demolished for challenging the establishment.

NeverTrump thinks only of Principle and Patriotism, you know.

The Bulwark: Democrats should deport illegals because they’re no longer reliable illegal votes.@JVLast pic.twitter.com/D4OfiOmxyP
— Bluesky Libs (@BlueskyLibs) December 9, 2024

Posted by: Ace at 04:03 PM

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1 First?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:03 PM (J2vNu)

2 Ahoy!

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:04 PM (77rzZ)

3 Bulwark Cruise is on my bucket list.

Posted by: Diaper Pail Dennis at January 06, 2025 04:07 PM (G5+As)

4 Top 5

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 04:07 PM (TN0g+)

5 On the other hand, Trump was evicted from office with no real investigation into serious voting irregularities that we all know occurred in 2020.

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Calling Pam Bondi...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 06, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

6 It's a shame.

The word "bulwark" used to mean something positive.

These people have ruined it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:08 PM (J2vNu)

7 Hide your young children for the next few days, especially if they're young boys.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 06, 2025 04:08 PM (/U5Yz)

8 One thing Trump should do early on, is declare AntiFa an INTERNATIONAL Terrorist organization.

They clearly fit the legal definition, and this would open up a whole new set of Law Enforcement tools...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2025 04:08 PM (QAkQ3)

9 Ahh, yes, the Eternal NeverTrump Human Centipede Mobius Strip, where all positions are Numbah One, Boss!, but also "Number 2."

Posted by: Sharkman at January 06, 2025 04:09 PM (aF7mp)

10 wait; the Democrats have political capital?

Posted by: pahound at January 06, 2025 04:10 PM (oD06T)

11 Has little Billy Kristol been wrenched out of his closet yet, kicking and screaming, his voice cracking and his cheeks crimson with shame?

If not, why not...

Posted by: The Advocate at January 06, 2025 04:10 PM (lX1hk)

12 Don't worry too much, ace, I'm sure they'll find their next hustle soon enough.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (uCjyK)

13 The word "bulwark" used to mean something positive.

These people have ruined it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Well, David French does have positive feelings when a bull works on his wife.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (77rzZ)

14 I want one of those horns on my truck.

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (vFG9F)

15 I can't wait until all of these "guys" are giving handjobs under the bridge for twenty bucks a man.

Posted by: ace at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (KRtlO)

16 Cruise ship horn battle.

1 long blast: Underway, making weigh.

3 short blasts: I am operating astern machinery.

Ref: COLREGS.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (u82oZ)

17 Hate the Cuckservatives. Worse than progtards.

Posted by: At least progtards don't play pretend at January 06, 2025 04:12 PM (ybSPO)

18 Ya know, a focused IRS taskforce would explode their 501 (c) 3 status. Let them talk, but tax them hard. And cast them out of non-profits.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:12 PM (u82oZ)

19 15 I can't wait until all of these "guys" are giving handjobs under the bridge for twenty bucks a man.
Posted by: ace at January 06, 2025 04:11 PM (KRtlO)

Same as in town.

Posted by: Had to be said at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (ybSPO)

20 Some one should ask one of the AI models to render a "Never Trump Machine."

Bet it's a pile of shit with a wheel.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

21 fd

You need more power. Those can be heard 2 miles away in fog.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (u82oZ)

22 I'd love to have an old-fashioned "a-ooga" car horn.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)

23 I read through a chunk of the article and my first thought was Esau and Jacob.

No idea why.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (tT6L1)

24 I'm amazed that there are still people who take Kinzinger seriously.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 06, 2025 04:14 PM (nWQSj)

25 I like cruises they’re fun. I can’t fathom going on one with the likes of Buleark characters. 😂

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:14 PM (5y+cL)

26 fd

You don't want to be under a ship's horn. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:14 PM (u82oZ)

27 I had never heard of chubby liberal lesbian Longwell until this Anti-Trump grift. The same for Sykes.

I wonder what the total take was for these droogs as well as the "worse than Watergate" crew? Has to be in the hundreds of Millions.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 06, 2025 04:15 PM (9Szag)

28 23 I read through a chunk of the article and my first thought was Esau and Jacob.

No idea why.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 06, 2025 04:13 PM (tT6L1)

Because Adam Kinzinger duped his blind father into giving him his blessing and sold his birthright for a mess of pottage?

Posted by: Mmm...pottage at January 06, 2025 04:15 PM (ybSPO)

29 Its Go Time Donald

We need a sumo wrestler to push them overboard. At night.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:15 PM (u82oZ)

30 #MeToo and BLM + COVID were the hammer blows this country is struggling to survive

Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (KQk9m)

31 10 uses of "Bulwark" and not a single appearance of "Bullseeker"?

I haz a sad.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (YTktQ)

32 No matter how many times it gets said, people just don't want to believe it: When they say "democracy" they mean the whole apparatus of DC, along with corporate media, globalist in board rooms and in control of vast funds, the educational industrial complex, and anyone else who is a member of the swamp, the blob, the elite class... democracy is when these people decide what is best, and you don't.

Get it?

You don't have to keep getting ruffled when they use the word. It means essentially the opposite of what you mean when you use the word.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (dGCAG)

33 Trump has 87,000 new IRS agents to investigate the vast Dem/Lib/establishment network of illegal “charity” groups funneling money to partisan politics.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (F/xk0)

34 So I see Ace is giving this movie three "Ahoys!"

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (LxER7)

35 Ofc I do not mean the mundane respiratory virus itself but how it was used.

Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (KQk9m)

36 Who wants pottage? Pottage heah, getcha pottage heah! Nice hawt pottage!

Posted by: It's a mess™! at January 06, 2025 04:17 PM (ybSPO)

37 Crazy thing is bulwark YouTube videos have hundred of thousands of views. Someone is watching that shit. Then again someone also watches msnbc and cnn.

Many retards in this once great nation.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:17 PM (5y+cL)

38 I always liked the phrase "mess of pottage" in that story. So much more derisive than 'nice home cooked meal'

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:17 PM (n7h9X)

39 I'd love to have an old-fashioned "a-ooga" car horn.
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025

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J.C. Whitney used to have them in their catalogs in the '70s, I think. That and "railroad horns."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:17 PM (J2vNu)

40 By the way, do you remember the GOP serially retreating on what was like a 70-30% issue in the 2000s, being "Gay Marriage?" Now you see it left wing gays behind the scenes like this Longwell scrunt and Tim Miller (also someone you never heard of until Trump) working to sabotage the party and frustrate its voters so they never get what they vote for.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (9Szag)

41 When does it come out?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (YeGMU)

42 "You don't want to be under a ship's horn. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: NaCly Dog"

I'd put it on the front to blast cars out of the way.

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (vFG9F)

43 41 When does it come out?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (YeGMU)

That's what she said!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (LxER7)

44 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (Zz0t1)

45 Because Adam Kinzinger duped his blind father into giving him his blessing and sold his birthright for a mess of pottage?
Posted by: Mmm...pottage at January 06, 2025

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Who was it who quipped that another writer had "sold his birthright for a pot of message"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (J2vNu)

46 Crazy thing is bulwark YouTube videos have hundred of thousands of views. Someone is watching that shit. Then again someone also watches msnbc and cnn.

Many retards in this once great nation.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:17 PM (5y+cL)\\

oh you are so innocent about these matters.

Just after the election a bunch of leftist YT had viewerships pop like a bubble, like 50 percent. Someone had gotten behind on the Bot payments

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (n7h9X)

47 Never Trump. The sound like fagz and dey shit is retarded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (Zz0t1)

48 Messy pottage sounds like something you shouldn't look up on Urban Dictionary

Posted by: You do WHAT? On a WHAT??!! at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (ybSPO)

49 One thing Trump should do early on, is declare AntiFa an INTERNATIONAL Terrorist organization.

They clearly fit the legal definition, and this would open up a whole new set of Law Enforcement tools...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2025 04:08 PM (QAkQ3)

When the U.S. of A. and others celebrate the new leaders in Syria, who are members of an "international terrorist organization," I think we've effectively ended the usefulness of the term, for legal or explanatory purposes.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (dGCAG)

50 One of the things that stood out is that if you took a step back from the day to day of politics the Republicans and conservativism absolutely failed in almost every area from 2000-2016 with the election of Trump.

If you described the political world of 2016 to the average conservative in 2000 - with people being cancelled for opposing gay marriage and disgustingly bloated federal budget they would have assumed Republicans lost all federal political offices for that whole time frame and yet...the GOPe controlled congress/presidency about half that time.

So you would think the Republican leadership and its associated pundits, would have publicly apologized, offered to help Trump and his allies however possible, and otherwise retired from the public spotlight.

But they did the opposite - they declared themselves the true conservatives and just defined anything Trump tried to do as no longer true conservatism even if this was some policy goal Republicans had for decades. At this point the scam should have been obvious to anyone paying attention - we had been losing because "our" leaders had been playing for the other side.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (t0Rmr)

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Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 04:20 PM (vFG9F)

52 heh

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 04:20 PM (vFG9F)

53 Tim Miller was part of the McCain campaign I believe. Or maybe Romney. Like there’s a difference anyway.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:20 PM (5y+cL)

54 We hate Trump because he lied to are Presdent of Color !!!!
You do nots lye about or two the Presdent !!!!

We calls on the FBI to arrest Trump for racersism and be tried just likes the KKK..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleborop, Vt at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (A2iSa)

55 working to sabotage the party and frustrate its voters so they never get what they vote for.

I remember being amazed that no matter who Europeans voted for they always got the same policies. Then after the rise of Shrub and Hastert the same thing played out here.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (t0Rmr)

56 The evolution of Jerry Taylor is interesting. It's possible he was always available to the highest bidder, but maybe his sudden change of heart could be chalked up to blackmail. Or mental illness.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (5IFb9)

57 "Pottage," according to Wiki, is "a thick soup or stew made by boiling vegetables, grains, and, if available, meat or fish." Doesn't sound *that* bad.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (J2vNu)

58 That's what she said!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 06, 2025 04:18 PM (LxER7)

How come I only ever hear "Is it in yet?"

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (dGCAG)

59 That SpaceX launch went to the time limit but was flawless. Great video of the first stage landing.
Next launch is Wednesday.

Posted by: Ciampino - ephemeral at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (i0xsb)

60 >>When the U.S. of A. and others celebrate the new leaders in Syria, who are members of an "international terrorist organization," I think we've effectively ended the usefulness of the term, for legal or explanatory purposes.

Have you met the Taliban?

Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (qu/pS)

61 Wasn't Milt Romley a never Trumper?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (YeGMU)

62 Get it?

You don't have to keep getting ruffled when they use the word. It means essentially the opposite of what you mean when you use the word.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:16 PM (dGCAG)

The first step in saving Democracy in Ukraine was shutting down the opposition parties. Soon after it was letting the Russians feed you if your town was occupied by them.

In England now cancelling elections is saving Democracy.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (n7h9X)

63 May the Bulwark sail into Houthi waters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (UbLDC)

64 Kinzinger looks like he has a lazy eye, how apropos.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (otXbF)

65 Who wants pottage? Pottage heah, getcha pottage heah! Nice hawt pottage!
Posted by: It's a mess™!

Hormel Pottage Meat!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (SDPbT)

66 Wasn't Milt Romley a never Trumper?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (YeGMU)

He wasn’t just A Mater he was one of the leaders. He voted to impeach Drunpf twice.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (5y+cL)

67 Wasn't Milt Romley a never Trumper?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (YeGMU)

Only after he didn't get a cushy job from him.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (n7h9X)

68 Speaking of, it was incorrectly reported on X/Twitter that Sen. Deb Fischer’s husband refused to shake hands with Kackala after holding the Bible while she was sworn in. He's disabled and was also holding onto a cane with his right hand. Dipshit Man Boy Lincoln Project scum had this to offer:

@stuartpstevens
The correct term for this is “trash.”
That is the essence of MAGA. Anger, resentment, bitterness. Graciousness and civility is a foreign land never visited.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

69 We hate Trump because he lied to are Presdent of Color !!!!
You do nots lye about or two the Presdent !!!!

We calls on the FBI to arrest Trump for racersism and be tried just likes the KKK..
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleborop, Vt at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (A2iSa)

She's sounding more and more like Flowers for Algernon after he regressed back.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

70 Tim Miller was part of the McCain campaign I believe. Or maybe Romney. Like there’s a difference anyway.

McCain was a corrupt SOB that wanted to start a bunch of wars so he could get the praise for winning them...and make some money along the way

Romney is a corrupt SOB that wanted to start a bunch of wars to make some money...and get some prestige for winning them along the way

See...totally different.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (t0Rmr)

71 "Pottage," according to Wiki, is "a thick soup or stew made by boiling vegetables, grains, and, if available, meat or fish." Doesn't sound *that* bad.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I always thought it was mostly lentils.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

72
The jury in the Derek Chauvin trial was intimidated into finding him guilty, by the threat of doxxing and violence. They were too weak to stand up to it. Imagine: they railroaded an innocent man into prison because they were afraid.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (iTNuP)

73 Never Trumpers can go screw themselves

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (fwDg9)

74
Hormel Pottage Meat!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (SDPbT)

"Some call it a Keyser blade, I call it a sling blade."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)

75 What was Jonah's newsletter called?

Posted by: Inogame at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (53oGX)

76 Have you met the Taliban?
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (qu/pS)

We have met the Taliban, and it is us.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (dGCAG)

77 Pottage:

Stuff I made in a Pot over a fire.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (n7h9X)

78 Congress certifies Trump's 2024 win four years after Jan. 6 riot that was started by Trump the Terrporist !!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleborop, Vt at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (A2iSa)

79 Grain and vegetables yeccch.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (YeGMU)

80 Let us assure you that the United States Government would never gaslight you.

Posted by: Top. Men. at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (R+4G8)

81 Who was it who quipped that another writer had "sold his birthright for a pot of message"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:19 PM (J2vNu)
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I forget who made the quip, but the target was G. B. Shaw.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (6K6Eu)

82 Have you met the Taliban?

Prior to 9/11 the left told me the only reason the US didn't go and topple the Taliban was misogyny.

After the US topped the Taliban the left told me the only reason the US did so was racism.

Now the left tells me both that we "let the Taliban win" because of misogyny AND that we only went to war with them in the first place because of racism.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (t0Rmr)

83 Mary Clogginstein

Go home. The real Mary can't spell.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (u82oZ)

84 That's what she said!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

How come I only ever hear "Is it in yet?"
Posted by: BurtTC

Dallas is supposed to get 8" Thursday. Gonna be a lot of disappointed ladies when the see just how much 8" is.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (SDPbT)

85 Are these asshats still doing the cruise thing 🛳️ ?

Would they get enough interested flaccid soibois to fill a pontoon boat?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (Q4IgG)

86 If you read "Bulwark" and substitute the words "Bull Work" you get a pretty good idea what this was about.

It was all bull.

People in power...like how Washington is arranged. Disrupting that is...unpleasant.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (nLFEI)

87 I like cruises they’re fun. I can’t fathom going on one with the likes of Buleark characters.

I’ve been doing the Mark Steyn cruises for a couple of years. Never thought I’d enjoy that kind of “stop in town for a few hours then head on to the next”, but the first one happened to start and stop in places I’d been wanting to visit, and I’d never really been out on the ocean, so I figured, why not try it.

They’re a fun enough group that I’ve kept going.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (EXyHK)

88 McCain was a corrupt SOB that wanted to start a bunch of wars so he could get the praise for winning them...and make some money along the way

Romney is a corrupt SOB that wanted to start a bunch of wars to make some money...and get some prestige for winning them along the way

See...totally different.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:23 PM (t0Rmr)

Only one of them heroically set fire to his own Aircraft Carrier.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)

89 What was Jonah's newsletter called?
Posted by: Inogame at January 06, 2025 04:24 PM (53oGX)
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"A View From Inside."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (6K6Eu)

90 Credit where credit is due. The smart ass comment in the sidebar attributed to me, well, I stole it from Not the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (L/fGl)

91 Are these asshats still doing the cruise thing 🛳️ ?

As long as there are cabin boys we will take to the seas to protect America's sacred conservatism.

Posted by: The National American Man Boy Lincoln association at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (t0Rmr)

92 It's a shame.
The word "bulwark" used to mean something positive.
These people have ruined it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

For the pseudo-right group doing all the left's work for them, pronounce it "bull work" instead of "bull wark."

Since it's a bull's work to do someone else's heavy lifting, while being led around by the ring in its nose.

Posted by: mikeski at January 06, 2025 04:26 PM (DgGvY)

93 The first step in saving Democracy in Ukraine was shutting down the opposition parties. Soon after it was letting the Russians feed you if your town was occupied by them.

In England now cancelling elections is saving Democracy.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (n7h9X)

I heard only this past weekend, Russia and Ukraine had an agreement to send natural gas (I think it was natural gas) through Ukraine, to points in Europe, and the Russians JUST announced they were cutting it off.

Z man was claiming this as a victory, when indeed, it was Russia basically saying "yeah, we're not doing that anymore."

Weird.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (dGCAG)

94 Grain and vegetables yeccch.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Barley soup with carrots, potatoes and chunks of meat. Aka, stew.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (SDPbT)

95

Dallas is supposed to get 8" Thursday. Gonna be a lot of disappointed ladies when the see just how much 8" is.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (SDPbT)

Heh. That'll make chemo day so much more fun.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)

96 With Jan. 6th not getting the traction it used to, Kinzinger had People magazine do a puff piece on how he saved a woman from drowning and it brought back his PTSD.

Posted by: Ktgreat at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (33LJY)

97 Are the Cowboys going to have to play in the snow?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (YeGMU)

98 I still want a leftist to explain to me how a country that elected Obama in a landslide in 2008, is so racist, it refused to elect a half black candidate 16 years later.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (5y+cL)

99 Let us assure you that the United States Government would never gaslight you.
Posted by: Top. Men. at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (R+4G

Due to the fossil fuel crisis they now LED-light you.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (n7h9X)

100 Only one of them heroically set fire to his own Aircraft Carrier.

In fairness to Mittens, he is a hell of a lot more competent than McVain was. Which ironically means he would have been the strongest candidate the left could have run in 2024...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (t0Rmr)

101 It's a shame.
The word "bulwark" used to mean something positive.
These people have ruined it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

So did the rainbow and the word gay.

But the left hijacks and ruins EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (Zz0t1)

102 Nearly the whole of our political class is made up of grifters.

I'm willing to believe that some small percentage is actually working for the good of the country, but, like lawyers, 98% give the rest a bad name. (Of note, most of these grifters ARE lawyers.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (zjgNU)

103 "A View From Inside."
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Where Gerbils Dare

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (iziT8)

104 Who was it who quipped that another writer had "sold his birthright for a pot of message"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025
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I forget who made the quip, but the target was G. B. Shaw.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025

***
On the 'Net I'm seeing that Hugh Walpole said it in 1919 about H.G. Wells, and it was also applied by someone else to John Galsworthy. I can easily imagine, though, that someone would have aimed it at Shaw at some point.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

105 Just got finished shoveling at least twelve inches of snow off the drive. I didn’t have a heart attack so I’m calling it a win.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (u73oe)

106 I still want a leftist to explain to me how a country that elected Obama in a landslide in 2008, is so racist, it refused to elect a half black candidate 16 years later.

I mean millions of democrats who voted for Biden didn't bother for Kamala so it must be Dems are racist right?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (t0Rmr)

107 WE be nots telvisering the Inaugeration of a Liar and Felon Trump on 15 january. Insteeds we be having a gay Pride day Parade to helps race money for Gay Childrin of Coller distrimeration caused by Trump.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (A2iSa)

108 I’ve been doing the Mark Steyn cruises for a couple of years. Never thought I’d enjoy that kind of “stop in town for a few hours then head on to the next”, but the first one happened to start and stop in places I’d been wanting to visit, and I’d never really been out on the ocean, so I figured, why not try it.

They’re a fun enough group that I’ve kept going.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Were you on the cruise with Eva Vlaardingerbroek?

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (77rzZ)

109 What was Jonah's newsletter called?
Posted by: Inogame

Pretty sure it was "Pustules and Crapulence: My Life as a Human Hemorrhoid "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (IG4Id)

110 What did Hoffer say about every cause eventually becoming a racket?

Are libertarians worse than Mitt Mormons?

Ass rape? You're soaking in it!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (wBaIH)

111 Are the Cowboys going to have to play in the snow?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (YeGMU)

No. Because if they open the roof at Jerry World, people might be killed by the falling shrapnel, so that will stay closed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)

112 Are the Cowboys going to have to play in the snow?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (YeGMU)

only for fun, they didn't make the playoffs.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:30 PM (n7h9X)

113 All those medals Bidet gave out are conciliation prize for being kicked out of power, losing influence, since the Clinton-Obama-Biden machine is very much removed. He especially needed to give one to Soros, so biden's useless family, children and grandchildren will continue to be funded through foundations and charities with Soros' money. And Hilary, being Soros Jr's mother in law, needed a tchochki too. But what will Kristol and his ilk do now? Live off Soros' money of course !

Posted by: runner at January 06, 2025 04:30 PM (g47mK)

114 Your problem morons is not never trumper republicans wandering in the wilderness ;but discredited corporate establishment liberal punching bags and their donor class masters trying to keep the real left from taking over the democratic party.

Posted by: raimondo at January 06, 2025 04:30 PM (8Yqxr)

115 Does the "real left" mean the people shooting CEOs on the street and molesting kids in schools? Because...I think it does right?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (t0Rmr)

116
only for fun, they didn't make the playoffs.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:30 PM (n7h9X)

Oh. Is the regular season over? I hadn't noticed since I haven't watched any NFL in years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (Zz0t1)

117 107 WE be nots telvisering the Inaugeration of a Liar and Felon Trump on 15 january. Insteeds we be having a gay Pride day Parade to helps race money for Gay Childrin of Coller distrimeration caused by Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt

on mlk jr. day?

Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (v3pYe)

118 Were you on the cruise with Eva Vlaardingerbroek?

Yes. That’s about as far away as you can get from a Bulwark cruise.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (EXyHK)

119 But they did the opposite - they declared themselves the true conservatives and just defined anything Trump tried to do as no longer true conservatism even if this was some policy goal Republicans had for decades. At this point the scam should have been obvious to anyone paying attention - we had been losing because "our" leaders had been playing for the other side.
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Yes, and that "continuing resolution" first draft that came out 10 days ago indicates that "our" side still isn't all that fired up about working for us--Johnson was ready to push that GRIFT right thru if Trump and Musk hadn't gotten involved. "Our" side needs some pieces swapped out.

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (TN0g+)

120 Just got finished shoveling at least twelve inches of snow off the drive. I didn’t have a heart attack so I’m calling it a win.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (u73oe)
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You deserve a large mug of coffee with a hearty tot of rum.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (6K6Eu)

121 The Rick Wilson could always sell confederate flag emblazed beer coolers on the street corner.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (/U5Yz)

122 We did rather well with Never Trump, didn't we?

Posted by: Big Penguin at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (a3Q+t)

123 That's 12 inches of global warming - remember there has been no snow since 2006 right?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 06, 2025 04:32 PM (t0Rmr)

124 >>What was Jonah's newsletter called?

The Jizz Mop

Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 04:32 PM (qu/pS)

125 Best car horn and ringtone id the one that copied the red phone in "Our Man Flint".

https://youtu.be/CokN5HgyfD8

Posted by: Ciampino - ephemeral at January 06, 2025 04:32 PM (i0xsb)

126 With Jan. 6th not getting the traction it used to, Kinzinger had People magazine do a puff piece on how he saved a woman from drowning and it brought back his PTSD.
Posted by: Ktgreat at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (33LJY)

Saving a life is a TRAUMA? He's worse than I thought he was.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:32 PM (n7h9X)

127 The Rick Wilson could always sell confederate flag emblazed beer coolers on the street corner.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (/U5Yz)

What a hideous piece of shit that asshole is......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:32 PM (Zz0t1)

128 How IRONIC !!!!!!!!!!!!

Kamal Harris had to officially certify the Electoral College Vote stating Trump beat her fair and square.

Cackle......... Cackle................. Cackle !!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (upoXC)

129 With Jan. 6th not getting the traction it used to, Kinzinger had People magazine do a puff piece on how he saved a woman from drowning and it brought back his PTSD.
Posted by: Ktgreat at January 06, 2025 04:27 PM (33LJY)

Hold the coffee just wave the rum in front of the cabinet

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (n7h9X)

130 only for fun, they didn't make the playoffs.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025
*
Oh. Is the regular season over? I hadn't noticed since I haven't watched any NFL in years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025

***
I've never willingly watched a football game in my life. Now and then I've sat politely at someone's house and stared at the screen, but that's all. 'Twas tough being the only non-football watcher when I lived at home.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (J2vNu)

131 Dallas is supposed to get 8" Thursday. Gonna be a lot of disappointed ladies when the see just how much 8" is.
Posted by: rickb223

Heh. That'll make chemo day so much more fun.
Posted by: Sponge

It could be a nightmare. If they are off by half in either direction, it could be anywhere between 4 & 12 inches. Can the Mrs get it bumped up a day?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (SDPbT)

132 I popped into Bad Billy's looking for a man I was hoping was in the bathroom. I had a quick sherry with my French polisher and then I left. As for how I got into another man's shorts, that is no one's business!

Posted by: Little Billy Kristol, Latent at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (lX1hk)

133 Caribbean cruises are like an all inclusive resort with a ship involved. All you can eat and drink with beach time in between.

But the ports themselves are typically tourist traps with massive crowds. Don’t do a cruise to sight see. That’s the worst way to do it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:34 PM (5y+cL)

134 Kinzinger has limited thinking ability. He sounds like an idiot.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:34 PM (gaKF9)

135 94 Barley soup with carrots, potatoes and chunks of meat. Aka, stew.

looks like meat. tastes like meat. i don't think it's meat at all. double-plus good!

Posted by: parsons at January 06, 2025 04:34 PM (v3pYe)

136 126-
I honestly thinks he'll take any opportunity to bust out the performative crying.

Posted by: Ktgreat at January 06, 2025 04:34 PM (33LJY)

137 Yes, and that "continuing resolution" first draft that came out 10 days ago indicates that "our" side still isn't all that fired up about working for us--Johnson was ready to push that GRIFT right thru if Trump and Musk hadn't gotten involved. "Our" side needs some pieces swapped out.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (TN0g+)

Or it was an op to get idiots to go on record with graft and corruption.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (n7h9X)

138 133 Caribbean cruises are like an all inclusive resort with a ship involved. All you can eat and drink with beach time in between.

But the ports themselves are typically tourist traps with massive crowds. Don’t do a cruise to sight see. That’s the worst way to do it.

well, there's always viking river tours; looting and pillaging your way through europe.

Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (v3pYe)

139 107 maryc...
Calm down honey😛

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (L83z3)

140 It's tempting to ask a NeverTrumper what you get when you multiply 45x45.

Posted by: Rex B at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (aExPs)

141
It could be a nightmare. If they are off by half in either direction, it could be anywhere between 4 & 12 inches. Can the Mrs get it bumped up a day?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 04:33 PM (SDPbT)

If she's at the local one, it's only a mile away, so that wouldn't be bad. IF they're open, we should be fine. If she has to go to the Castle Hills one, that could be a problem.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (Zz0t1)

142 I enjoyed Rick Wilson's unequivocal statements that Trump would not win again. He went on and on. His bubble was showing.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (gaKF9)

143 107 maryc...
Calm down honey😛
Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (L83z3)
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.........and make us a sammich.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (6K6Eu)

144 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

It sounds like something G.K Chesterton would say about G.B Shaw as well. " a pot of message."
That's very clever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (aUqcU)

145 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

It sounds like something G.K Chesterton would say about G.B Shaw as well. " a pot of message."
That's very clever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (aUqcU)

146 I think the Weather Channel is LYING about this snowstorm. The Earth is cooking and everything is dying!!!!

Why would the Weather Channel Lye to Us ?????????

Posted by: Buster Hymand at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (A2iSa)

147 Best car horn and ringtone id the one that copied the red phone in "Our Man Flint".

https://youtu.be/CokN5HgyfD8
Posted by: Ciampino - ephemeral at January 06, 2025

***
My phone ringtone, as you can imagine, is the warbling sound effect from the U.N.C.L.E. pen communicator: https://tinyurl.com/wcsfw9vc

Lemme tell you, that sound cuts through just about *anything*.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (J2vNu)

148 Sorry for the double post. Funky phone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2025 04:37 PM (aUqcU)

149 >>What a hideous piece of shit that asshole is......

One of my favorite election season videos is the one with Rick Wilson confidently predicting on election eve that Harris was going to win huge because she had run a superior campaign and the Trump campaign was in complete disarray.

Sometimes we overlook in our haste to punch back at these dick holes is that they are really, really stupid.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 06, 2025 04:37 PM (LkLld)

150 USS Forrestal fire resulted from several factors.

1. The F-4 squadron cheated the safeties for the Zuni rockets. Thus a voltage surge fired a rocket.

2. Lyndon Johnson's denial of a bomb shortage meant the carrier received Korean War era bombs that lacked a critical safety coating.

3. It was the detonation of one of these bombs that was loaded on the A-4 parked next to McCain's plane that wiped out most of the trained fire fighting crews of the carrier.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 06, 2025 04:37 PM (UbLDC)

151 well, there's always viking river tours; looting and pillaging your way through europe.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (v3pYe)

I dunno, spending 8 hours in a city doesn’t really do it for me. That's not visiting, it’s seeing and checking off a box. Everyone’s mileage will vary of course.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (5y+cL)

152 I’m still trying to figure out what precipitates the BIG awakening - a major power failure where a lot of people freeze because we didn’t maintain/upgrade our grid because of “climate change”? An internal 9/11 times 1000 because DC let the invaders come across with welcome arms and cash?

Posted by: CTSPURSMAN at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (Uy2Lz)

153 If Kinzinger actually saved a woman's life, it triggered some form of PTSD because, in performing such a feat, he would've produced adrenaline and testosterone. Both of which make him feel icky and want to cry.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

154 only for fun, they didn't make the playoffs.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025
*
Oh. Is the regular season over? I hadn't noticed since I haven't watched any NFL in years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025

Regular season ended Sunday, playoffs start Saturday. NFL seems to be greasing some wheels for Buffalo and the fix is always in for Kansas City, as bad as the Patsies ever were.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (n7h9X)

155 But they did the opposite - they declared themselves the true conservatives and just defined anything Trump tried to do as no longer true conservatism even if this was some policy goal Republicans had for decades. At this point the scam should have been obvious to anyone paying attention - we had been losing because "our" leaders had been playing for the other side.

They used the "no true Scotsman" fallacy and most never trumpers are still using it to this day.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (Rcnd3)

156 109 What was Jonah's newsletter called?
Posted by: Inogame

Pretty sure it was "Pustules and Crapulence: My Life as a Human Hemorrhoid "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (IG4Id)
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So his banes in life were brown Klingons, rough TP and itching?

Posted by: Ciampino - ephemeral circling around uranus at January 06, 2025 04:39 PM (i0xsb)

157 Simpatico at 142, JackStraw.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:39 PM (gaKF9)

158
Speaking of cucks & queers who pretend to "save democracy,"

here is the "pedophile project," led by rick cocksucker wilson in a circle-jerk predicting an easy harris/coach "win" the Friday before the election:

https://is.gd/PpPO58

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 06, 2025 04:39 PM (nX34c)

159 But the [Caribbean] ports themselves are typically tourist traps with massive crowds. Don’t do a cruise to sight see. That’s the worst way to do it.

Yes, the Caribbean one last year was probably the worst for the ports. But the group was still fun. The first one I went on had the best stops. That was between Montreal and Boston. The stops in between could not have cared less that a tourist ship had just docked.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 06, 2025 04:39 PM (EXyHK)

160 Are the Cowboys going to have to play in the snow?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (YeGMU)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (dGCAG)

161 Snow? In the northern hemisphere? In January?

GTFO! This absolutely deserves non stop news coverage. It has never happened before and will probably never happen again. Savor it everyone.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (5y+cL)

162 I’m still trying to figure out what precipitates the BIG awakening - a major power failure where a lot of people freeze because we didn’t maintain/upgrade our grid because of “climate change”? An internal 9/11 times 1000 because DC let the invaders come across with welcome arms and cash?
Posted by: CTSPURSMAN at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (Uy2Lz)

Chicago had a power failure in the 90s in the summer and about 700 people died, mostly elderly who were afraid to open their windows.

Never made a ripple.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (n7h9X)

163 Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life. He also is not even being granted a right to appeal.

Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (KQk9m)

164 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

It sounds like something G.K Chesterton would say about G.B Shaw as well. " a pot of message."
That's very clever.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (zjgNU)

165 I still can't get over how they went to that big meeting (off the coast of NC, IIRC) with a bunch of Democrats--during the 2016 primary--and promised they would stop Trump.

Not one new idea.
Not one single attack distinguishable from the Democrats.
Zero results.
And they milked that cow for 9 f'ing years!

I mean, for all their evils and faults, that's a damned good bunko game they ran.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (R3Yln)

166 The only playoff game Jerry World is getting and will get for quite some time is the Cotton Bowl game.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (Zz0t1)

167
It's a shame.
The word "bulwark" used to mean something positive.
These people have ruined it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

A bulwark never failing.

Atta boy, Luther!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2025 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

168 107 WE be nots telvisering the Inaugeration of a Liar and Felon Trump on 15 january. Insteeds we be having a gay Pride day Parade to helps race money for Gay Childrin of Coller distrimeration caused by Trump.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at January 06, 2025 04:29 PM (A2iSa)

This is beautifully done.

When I sock Mary, it's never this good because I am too OCD to commit to this degree of misspelling.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 06, 2025 04:41 PM (h/5hh)

169 Krystol had the most insipid grin on his face on election night.

Like when you have to pretend all is well when you're dying inside.

It was pure joy.

Posted by: eleven at January 06, 2025 04:41 PM (iziT8)

170 163 Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life. He also is not even being granted a right to appeal.
Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (KQk9m)
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It makes me sick.

We continue to convict or not convict on emotion. It's outrageous.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:41 PM (gaKF9)

171 These cucks were never Republicans in the first place. They thought they could fake supporting the Republican platform and got away with it for years until someone was the Republican nominee that they hated more than they loved playing fake Republican.

In the mean time what they did accomplish was making the Republican name hated by a lot of good conservatives. Managed to make even good Republican politicians stained by association.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:42 PM (D6PGr)

172 USS Forrestal fire resulted from several factors.

1. The F-4 squadron cheated the safeties for the Zuni rockets. Thus a voltage surge fired a rocket.

2. Lyndon Johnson's denial of a bomb shortage meant the carrier received Korean War era bombs that lacked a critical safety coating.

3. It was the detonation of one of these bombs that was loaded on the A-4 parked next to McCain's plane that wiped out most of the trained fire fighting crews of the carrier.
Posted by: Anna Puma

From the movie they showed us in Navy boot camp, they were sloppy in handling the the munitions and not observing certain safety protocols.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:42 PM (77rzZ)

173 Oh. Is the regular season over? I hadn't noticed since I haven't watched any NFL in years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:31 PM (Zz0t1)

I have new clientele who want to talk about football, so I have to sorta know what's going on.

Arizona State was robbed.

Everyone should be rooting for a Detroit v. Buffalo Super Bowl.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:42 PM (dGCAG)

174 Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life. He also is not even being granted a right to appeal.
Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (KQk9m)
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Chauvin remains in the lead after Penny found not guilty.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:43 PM (D6PGr)

175 Oh, BLM didn’t “threaten democracy,” eh?

To these cucks think the Pali “global intifada” protests shutting down streets, bridges, tunnels, holiday celebrations and parades “threaten democracy?”!?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2025 04:43 PM (Hkcdp)

176 152 I’m still trying to figure out what precipitates the BIG awakening - a major power failure where a lot of people freeze because we didn’t maintain/upgrade our grid because of “climate change”? An internal 9/11 times 1000 because DC let the invaders come across with welcome arms and cash?
Posted by: CTSPURSMAN at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (Uy2Lz)

Just got the word I can't replace my Gas Heat here in Calif... because of crappy state law... which means heat pump and electric heat.

Not... happy... going to pay to put in a gas Log (which luckily is still legal) so if power goes out, I still have heat... because even with the Solar and Battery, HVAC system won't start without help from the grid.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2025 04:43 PM (QAkQ3)

177 Weird, when I hear the term bulwark I think of awkward gay sex.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:43 PM (gaKF9)

178 Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life. He also is not even being granted a right to appeal.
Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:40 PM (KQk9m)

The fact that they charged him with murder should've saw the case thrown out immediately. There was zero premeditation in Chauvin's actions NOR did he force feed Floyd the fentanyl he overdosed and died on.

But, the AG is a muslham pAntifa supporting terrorist, so.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:43 PM (Zz0t1)

179 dunno, spending 8 hours in a city doesn’t really do it for me. That's not visiting, it’s seeing and checking off a box. Everyone’s mileage will vary of course.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (5y+cL)

Normally I'm that way but I did appreciate when I was in England doing those one day Grey Line bus trips which went out of London and stopped in 2 or 3 stops with a lunch. Stonehenge, Bath, Oxford, Stratford, various Castles. Very convenient and gives the feet a day off from walking. Other days I was haring off to the Belfast cruiser or the Cutty Sark.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:44 PM (n7h9X)

180 a major power failure where a lot of people freeze because we didn’t maintain/upgrade our grid because of “climate change”?

Texas has entered the chat…

This is already happening. But when there’s such an event, the major media outlets try very hard to ignore the effect that unreliable energy had on the power outages and resultant deaths.

They literally blame reliable energy, and ignore how much reliable energy capacity has shrunk as we’ve forced coal out of business and drastically discouraged nuclear, while at the same time throw tons of money at the very power sources that fail in a winter emergency. Wind turbines that ice up, and solar that cannot generate energy during the night when it’s coldest.

Go take a look at the news reports during and after winter storm Uri.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 06, 2025 04:44 PM (EXyHK)

181 Willowed:

54 I find it hard to believe that the CIA doesn't have a similar device that's been employed in the field. It's probably the original. The Russians stole the plans.

Or the Chinese, then sold the plans to the Russians.

Whatever...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 03:21 PM (Q4IgG)

More likely, CIA had it manufactured in China, so China never had to steal plans

Posted by: Old Toby at January 06, 2025 04:44 PM (6mykt)

182 Jonah’s rag -> The Dispatch

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (Hkcdp)

183 Regular season ended Sunday, playoffs start Saturday. NFL seems to be greasing some wheels for Buffalo and the fix is always in for Kansas City, as bad as the Patsies ever were.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:38 PM (n7h9X)

The other hoot to come out of yesterday's games is now Tennessee has the first pick in the draft.

Prime Time's son is not happy about it. He doesn't want to go to Hicksville, he wanted New York or Vegas.

Waaa!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (dGCAG)

184 I was on a Teams meeting right before the holidays and someone mentioned how excited they were for the foozball playoffs. Nobody else gave a shit. Dude was confused, like legit confused at the apathy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (5y+cL)

185 Another suggestion for OrangeManBad?
Why Property Tax Is Illegal
https://shorturl.at/W1EP1
Zerohedge; article "Submitted by Mitch Vexler, President G.P. of Mockingbird Properties"

From the company website:
Mockingbird Properties is a Dallas-based real estate investment company that specializes in the acquisition and development of Commercial Real Estate including luxury high-rise Condominiums, Townhomes, Retail, Multi-Family, and Urban Mixed Use. Mitchell Vexler, President and Chief Executive Officer, started the Mockingbird group in 1990.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (YTktQ)

186 [among Kristol's] co-founders, ... Sarah Longwell, a political consultant and one-time chair of the LGBT group Log Cabin Republicans

That may explain how Randy Weaver stumbled into the Man Boy Lincoln Association.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 06, 2025 04:46 PM (gKWVE)

187 Jonah's Dish Rag?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 06, 2025 04:46 PM (UbLDC)

188 Prime Time's son is not happy about it. He doesn't want to go to Hicksville, he wanted New York or Vegas.

----

Idiot has never heard of taxes.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:46 PM (gaKF9)

189 But the ports themselves are typically tourist traps with massive crowds. Don’t do a cruise to sight see. That’s the worst way to do it.

well, there's always viking river tours; looting and pillaging your way through europe.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 04:35 PM (v3pYe)

The booze cruises were pretty fun at port stops. You left the cruise ship and got on a smaller boat where you would drink and dive.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (D6PGr)

190 @116 67.5% of politicians accused of pedophilia are rethuglikkkans only 13.5% are democrats. (fightfigt DU)

Posted by: raimondo at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (8Yqxr)

191 "and Sarah Longwell, a political consultant and one-time chair of the LGBT group Log Cabin Republicans"

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All of these people used to have kinda real jobs. Now nobody can really explain what someone like Longwell does.

The election night video of her and the other Bulwark losers was hilarious. I thought Mona Charen was dead!

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (i7Q7S)

192 a major power failure where a lot of people freeze because we didn’t maintain/upgrade our grid because of “climate change”?

Texas has entered the chat…

Texas' issues aren't because of failure to maintain or upgrade. It's 100% because of Rick Perry's agreement with Barack Hussein Owebama to shut down the coal fired plants throughout the state because of 'climate change,' despite the coal plants producing less pollution than the average automobile, and replace them with incredibly unreliable wind and solar.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)

193 Coming soon to a neighborhood near you~!

@nicksortor 30m
🚨 #BREAKING: Joe Biden has just RELEASED 11 YEMENI TERRORlSTS from Guantanamo Bay just days before leaving office

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (IG4Id)

194 I will always be proud of my one and only block on X to be by The Rick Wilson. He's very, very touchy about any mention of his Confederate cooler. 😄

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 06, 2025 04:48 PM (4tmpE)

195 @nicksortor 30m
🚨 #BREAKING: Joe Biden has just RELEASED 11 YEMENI TERRORlSTS from Guantanamo Bay just days before leaving office
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (IG4Id)

Reminding everyone that democrats want you dead and will achieve their goal by any means necessary.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:48 PM (Zz0t1)

196 I thought Mona Charen was dead!
Posted by: Jay in PA

That 72-hour body spray prevents people from noticing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:49 PM (IG4Id)

197 >>> 194 I will always be proud of my one and only block on X to be by The Rick Wilson. He's very, very touchy about any mention of his Confederate cooler. 😄
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 06, 2025 04:48 PM (4tmpE)

LOL

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 06, 2025 04:49 PM (YTktQ)

198 Coming soon to a neighborhood near you~!

@nicksortor 30m
🚨 #BREAKING: Joe Biden has just RELEASED 11 YEMENI TERRORlSTS from Guantanamo Bay just days before leaving office
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (IG4Id)

Stolen elections have consequences.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 06, 2025 04:49 PM (zjgNU)

199 Coming soon to a neighborhood near you~!

@nicksortor 30m
🚨 #BREAKING: Joe Biden has just RELEASED 11 YEMENI TERRORlSTS from Guantanamo Bay just days before leaving office
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (IG4Id)

Tell them Delaware is lovely this time of year. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 06, 2025 04:49 PM (4tmpE)

200 175
‘ Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life. He also is not even being granted a right to appeal.

Chauvin remains in the lead after Penny found not guilty.’

It’s worse than that in my opinion. Any one of us are just one string of bad luck from being in the same position because of our skin color

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (jbnUc)

201 On the 'Net I'm seeing that Hugh Walpole said it in 1919 about H.G. Wells, and it was also applied by someone else to John Galsworthy. I can easily imagine, though, that someone would have aimed it at Shaw at some point.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

Terry Pratchett coined "selling my birthright for a spot of massage"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (D7oie)

202 Joe is going to empty Gitmo, isn’t he?

That was TFG’s goal, so he’s doing it now since there will be no Obama 4th term.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (Hkcdp)

203 Bribe'em is just getting started on the heinous shit he's going to do.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (0wWvl)

204 USS Forrestal fire resulted from several factors.

1. The F-4 squadron cheated the safeties for the Zuni rockets. Thus a voltage surge fired a rocket.

2. Lyndon Johnson's denial of a bomb shortage meant the carrier received Korean War era bombs that lacked a critical safety coating.

3. It was the detonation of one of these bombs that was loaded on the A-4 parked next to McCain's plane that wiped out most of the trained fire fighting crews of the carrier.
Posted by: Anna Puma

From the movie they showed us in Navy boot camp, they were sloppy in handling the the munitions and not observing certain safety protocols.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 04:42 PM

My take from talking to people in the know back then was the Ordie's were trying to load a zuni rocket backwards and it lit off when the wires touched the plane and grounded the rocket out.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (Rcnd3)

205 The election night video of her and the other Bulwark losers was hilarious. I thought Mona Charen was dead!
Posted by: Jay in PA at January 06, 2025 04:47 PM (i7Q7S)

Haha!! I had the same thought. Holy shit Mona Charen? Haven’t heard that name in 20 years. And she’s on a Bulwark podcast. It was fun to watch. Tons of similar left wing podcast clips from election night all over YouTube. All start the same way with all this hope and excitement. Then 2 hours in its Cope. And then at the end it’s tears.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (5y+cL)

206 One audit of all the 501(c) charities would yield more taxes and fines than any audit of middle class Americans.

Then, pass a regulation that any compensation of any board member will be subject to a 70% income tax with zero deductions or credits allowed.
They can serve for free or pay 70% in income taxes.

F the rich lefties who place their kids on no-show board positions to launder 6 figure salaries as "non-profit."
Call it the "Hunter Biden" rule.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 06, 2025 04:51 PM (R3Yln)

207 I haven't watched even one NFL game in the last 5 years or whenever that BLM bullshit started.

I don't care if others enjoy it. I live in a climate where you can be outside all the time.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:51 PM (gaKF9)

208 "There's no understanding the Never Trump cabal without reading its flagship commentary website: The Bulwark."

I guess it's gonna have to remain a mystery to me, because there's no way I'm going to read The Cuckshed.

Posted by: Harry Pottage Watches Hermione Get Railed by the Pool Boy at January 06, 2025 04:51 PM (W5ArC)

209 >> Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life.

Trump had 2 pretty unfair trials.

E. Jean and A. Bragg Case. Both Judges refused to allow an actual Trial to take place.

Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 04:51 PM (qu/pS)

210 56 The evolution of Jerry Taylor is interesting. It's possible he was always available to the highest bidder, but maybe his sudden change of heart could be chalked up to blackmail. Or mental illness.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 06, 2025 04:21 PM (5IFb9)

Article says he was (as of 2021) an angry violent drunk who played Boston Strangler with his wife. Pled guilty for that.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 06, 2025 04:51 PM (gKWVE)

211 146 I think the Weather Channel is LYING about this snowstorm. The Earth is cooking and everything is dying!!!!

Why would the Weather Channel Lye to Us ?????????

Posted by: Buster Hymand at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (A2iSa)
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Would you prefer it Potashed to us?

Posted by: Ciampino - It's just Basic man at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (i0xsb)

212 Idiot has never heard of taxes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:46 PM (gaKF9)

Which is weird, since his dad played in Dallas for some of his career.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (dGCAG)

213 209 He certainly did but Chauvin is in prison for life

Posted by: steevy at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (KQk9m)

214 Released from Gitmo into society or just
moved to another prison?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (5y+cL)

215 > Holy shit Mona Charen? Haven’t heard that name in 20 years

I remember her as being kinda hot. Definitely a 1.

Of course, as you say, that was 20 years ago.

Posted by: Harry Pottage Watches Hermione Get Railed by the Pool Boy at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (W5ArC)

216 It’s worse than that in my opinion. Any one of us are just one string of bad luck from being in the same position because of our skin color
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (jbnUc)

Don’t disagree . Just thought that the attempt to railroad Penny was worse than Chauvin but not by much . Probably a tie because as you say it was all based on skin color.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:52 PM (D6PGr)

217 The people running Joe Biden are actual traitors.

I was going to say c*nts but I wanted to stay classy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:53 PM (gaKF9)

218 invited distraught neocons to a series of quasi-secret gatherings he deemed "Meetings of the Concerned."
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These people really are the easiest to mock.

Posted by: scampydog at January 06, 2025 04:53 PM (41CYW)

219
Today, summed up:

Democrats, today: Waaah!, Aarrrrgh! Why isn't anyone stopping this Certification?!?! Trump didn't win! We have to save democracy with faithless electors to stop Trump!

Also Democrats, today: See? We aren't like the insurrectionist Republicans who want deny election results.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 06, 2025 04:53 PM (nX34c)

220 I don't know what setting ace changed, but all the banner ads today seem to be scantily clad women.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (z/ifB)

221 Texas doesn't have a state income tax.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (gaKF9)

222 I think the Weather Channel is LYING about this snowstorm. The Earth is cooking and everything is dying!!!!

Why would the Weather Channel Lye to Us ?????????

Posted by: Buster Hymand at January 06, 2025 04:36 PM (A2iSa)

I stopped paying attention to any of the big weather channels when they started naming winter storms. Anything they can do to create panic......f*ck them all.

I have an app on my phone that does a pretty good job and tends to be more accurate than Big Weather.

It also gives more realistic color representation during storms, unlike the WAPP or WeatherBug type apps do. I just laugh when I compare what my app shows vs. the app the First Lady uses.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)

223 Arabella Advisors network

Aaaaaand there it is, the darkest of dark money.

Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting on a sick kitty at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (I/S59)

224 Texas doesn't have a state income tax.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (gaKF9)

No, but we've got some pretty rip roarin' property taxes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)

225 Derek Chauvin received the most unfair trial I have ever seen in my life.
*
Trump had 2 pretty unfair trials.

E. Jean and A. Bragg Case. Both Judges refused to allow an actual Trial to take place.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025

***
Trump got to go home afterward, though, not to prison.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (J2vNu)

226 The people running Joe Biden are actual traitors.

I was going to say c*nts but I wanted to stay classy.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:53 PM (gaKF9)

Difference being, you don't give a cigarette to a c**t before you're about to fire a shot into it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (dGCAG)

227 Have you met the Taliban?
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 04:22 PM (qu/pS)

We have met the Taliban, and it is us.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's Tollyban, bumpkins!

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (vcOmj)

228 I will always be proud of my one and only block on X to be by The Rick Wilson. He's very, very touchy about any mention of his Confederate cooler. 😄
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 06, 2025 04:48 PM

I first read that as cooter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (a3Q+t)

229 I think the funniest and most pathetic thing is, the Bulwark thought putting an ad on a billboard outside Mar a Largo, saying something like, "he cheated on his wife, he probably cheats at golf" or some stupid shit like that, was a solid gold Idea.

The One Perfect Slogan that was going to finally--this time!--bring down Trump.

Trump came closer to winning NY than Kamala did FL.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (R3Yln)

230 You know, there is a NeverTrumper that is rarely talked about. He went so far as to enter the 2020 presidential election as an independent and lasted about 5 minutes.

Brad Thor (author of the Scott Harvath book series). Apparently, due to his political hijinks he lost quite a few readers. That's a shame.

Posted by: Orson at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (dIske)

231
Gruel, if prepared properly, is delicious.

Posted by: Auspex at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (j4U/Z)

232 Classical alliteration?

Never Trumpers? They won't be missed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (UbLDC)

233 Texas doesn't have a state income tax.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (gaKF9)

No, but we've got some pretty rip roarin' property taxes.
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Which brings us right back 'round to the fact that unless we cut spending we're just re-arranging deck chairs on the Bulwark.

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)

234 I think the trial of the Oklahoma pharmacist who was convicted of capital murder was the most unfair verdict ever.

Minding his own business when two armed thugs attempted to rob his business. The resulting interaction resulted in one of the thugs dead. Pharmacist gets life.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (D6PGr)

235 Joe is going to empty Gitmo, isn’t he?

That was TFG’s goal, so he’s doing it now since there will be no Obama 4th term.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2025 04:50 PM (Hkcdp)

Well, Trump can just fill it back up with Obama's minions in Biden's administration. Make GITMO great again. Send Bearclaw there first, and bring back hangings and firing squads for treasonous traitors.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (4tmpE)

236 The Bulwarkistas are conservative though, aren't they?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (kTd/k)

237 Texas doesn't have a state income tax.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (gaKF9)

No, but we've got some pretty rip roarin' property taxes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)

Don't tell me I have to explain the Marx brothers joke.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (dGCAG)

238 Deep blue states tax pro athletes when they play there on a visiting team. So for a football player living in FL or TN, if they play away games in Cali, NY, Illinois, Mass, etc they’re still getting fucked by high state income taxes.

Ideally you want a low state home team that is in a division of low state teams as well. That’s how you minimize taxes.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (5y+cL)

239 Holy shit Mona Charen? Haven’t heard that name in 20 years

I remember her as being kinda hot. Definitely a 1.

Of course, as you say, that was 20 years ago.
Posted by: Harry Pottage Watches Hermione Get Railed by the Pool Boy at January 06, 2025

***
A quick Startpage image search may be loaded toward recent images. If so, and she was a 1 back then, time has not been kind to her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (J2vNu)

240 No, but we've got some pretty rip roarin' property taxes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)

------

Yes, that's true.

When I lived near a new High School I could not believe what was on that campus. They were looking for things to waste money on.

And my taxes showed it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

241 Peter Boghossian @peterboghossian

The most remarkable thing about the last decade was its sheer idiocy: Pretending not to know what a woman is, inventing conspiracies without conspirators, and labeling free speech as racist. It was a golden era for dangerous nonsense and intellectual laziness.
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Pretty sure Boghossian doesn't want to hear this, but it is as I predicted when I saw how stupid the SSM argument was getting.

I predicted that we had entered a new threshold of Stupid, Slovenly ideas.

I know that he and Lindsay think of it as just "liberal".

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (krQz2)

242 The Bulwarkistas are conservative though, aren't they?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

Only if you think worshipping DC is somehow conservative, sure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (IG4Id)

243 238 Deep blue states tax pro athletes when they play there on a visiting team. So for a football player living in FL or TN, if they play away games in Cali, NY, Illinois, Mass, etc they’re still getting fucked by high state income taxes.

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WHAAAAAAT????

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

244 The other hoot to come out of yesterday's games is now Tennessee has the first pick in the draft.

Prime Time's son is not happy about it. He doesn't want to go to Hicksville, he wanted New York or Vegas.

Waaa!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (dGCAG)

Browns have 2nd now, and likely is going to rip off some QB needy team on the likely indifferent Sanders or the other top prospect. Even though they have no QB of their own. Or that is what the fan I watch hopes.

Sanders papa should sit him down and tell him how easy it is to do a Manziel and wipe out in the NFL by wanting to party. After all he's been spoon fed his entire schooling by his Dad, and this will end now.

And NFL players can find plenty of trouble in any NFL town aside maybe Green Bay.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (n7h9X)

245 > I stopped paying attention to any of the big weather channels when they started naming winter storms.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Everything has to have a name now, even "moons" ("This week marks the Super Duper Catamite Moon! Watch for it!").

I fully expect to hear about Annoying Drizzle Clementine and Slightly Muggy Afternoon Manfred before the trend is over.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (W5ArC)

246 Gruel, if prepared properly, is delicious.
Posted by: Auspex at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (j4U/Z)

Improperly prepared it makes excellent library paste.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (D7oie)

247 There is currently the very slightest fall of microscopic snow in the ATL region. Almost imperceptible.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (Y6IkP)

248 Texas doesn't have a state income tax.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:54 PM (gaKF9)

No, but we've got

—

For someone earning NFL money that’s a great trade off. You’ll pay an extra $50k in property tax to save $1M in income tax. For the middle class it’s a wash, but for a super high end income person it’s a great deal.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (5y+cL)

249
When I lived near a new High School I could not believe what was on that campus. They were looking for things to waste money on.

And my taxes showed it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

I've got 2 6-A high schools in my town.......Not mentioning the host of elementary and middle schools.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (Zz0t1)

250 We will be seeing those Terrorists again, with a death toll

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (fwDg9)

251 The people running Joe Biden are actual traitors.

I was going to say c*nts but I wanted to stay classy.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Really, stay classy!!!

Posted by: Ron Burgandy at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (vcOmj)

252 The Bulwarkistas are conservative though, aren't they?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
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Just in the variety of let's repeatedly vote Swamp until we figure things out.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

253 > A quick Startpage image search may be loaded toward recent images. If so, and she was a 1 back then, time has not been kind to her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (J2vNu)

Yikes! Indeed it has not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 06, 2025 04:59 PM (W5ArC)

254 I think the trial of the Oklahoma pharmacist who was convicted of capital murder was the most unfair verdict ever.

Minding his own business when two armed thugs attempted to rob his business. The resulting interaction resulted in one of the thugs dead. Pharmacist gets life.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (D6PGr)

Names? Links? Hiragana?

Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting on a sick kitty at January 06, 2025 04:59 PM (I/S59)

255 Gruel, if prepared properly, is delicious.
Posted by: Auspex at January 06, 2025 04:55 PM (j4U/Z)
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Improperly prepared it makes excellent library paste.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025

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And ol' f. Joey can tell you all about that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 04:59 PM (J2vNu)

256 Gruel, if prepared properly, is delicious.
Posted by: Auspex

Mr. Bumble's gruel was so good that Oliver Twist wanted more of it.

Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (77rzZ)

257 There is currently the very slightest fall of microscopic snow in the ATL region. Almost imperceptible.
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So the roads will be littered with wrecks....

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (TN0g+)

258 Improperly prepared it makes excellent library paste.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 04:58 PM (D7oie)
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Or for doping aircraft wings.

Posted by: The Colditz Glider at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (6K6Eu)

259 The other hoot to come out of yesterday's games is now Tennessee has the first pick in the draft.

Prime Time's son is not happy about it. He doesn't want to go to Hicksville, he wanted New York or Vegas.

Waaa!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (dGCAG)

A Dodgers baseball signed a contract extension that pays him nothing until after he retires and can move to a state without income tax. CA might have trouble with that going forward.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (n7h9X)

260 The only Brad Thor book I read was "Last Patriot" and it was lame. He lost me as a reader just by not being good at writing. There are plenty of midway-decent to good action novels on Kindle Unlimited.
The only endorsement of Thor's I'd pay attention to is his endorsement of publisher, and that only if I was writing a book and needed someone lenient and good at promotion.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (gKWVE)

261 WHAAAAAAT????
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

Yeah this has been a thing for a while.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (5y+cL)

262 Denmark has a new royal coat of arms and it's FABULOUS.

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (vFG9F)

263
Prime Time's son is not happy about it. He doesn't want to go to Hicksville, he wanted New York or Vegas.

Waaa!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 04:45 PM (dGCAG)

The Heisman winner might have a chance, but Prime's kid will not make it as a QB in the NFL. He's too small and can't read a defense. Sure, there was Drew Brees and Doug Flutie, but Sanders is neither of those men.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:01 PM (Zz0t1)

264 #254. What did the Oklahoma pharmacist in was that he shot one of the perps who fell to the floor, then chased the other out of the store.....and THEN returned to shoot the perp on the floor again.

I don't know how I feel about it--it was ruled he could have stopped after the perp was laying on the floor and hadn't gotten back to his feet.

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:01 PM (TN0g+)

265 261 WHAAAAAAT????
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

Yeah this has been a thing for a while.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (5y+cL)

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I don't get how that's legal?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (gaKF9)

266 Denmark has a new royal coat of arms and it's FABULOUS.
Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025

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Did the Swedish Bikini Team relocate?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (J2vNu)

267 If you’re 65 and you don’t live in a new mud district, property taxes in Texas aren’t too bad since there are not any state income tax. What is the property tax rate in the other non state income states?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (D6PGr)

268 NeverTrump thinks only of Principle and Patriotism, you know.
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And the satisfaction of their wives.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

269 I don't get how that's legal?

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You pay tax where you earn money. If you play a game in Los Angeles, then the money earned for that game is subject to Cali tax. Doesn’t matter where the player lives.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (5y+cL)

270 Holy shit Mona Charen? Haven’t heard that name in 20 years

I remember her as being kinda hot. Definitely a 1.

Of course, as you say, that was 20 years ago.
Posted by: Harry Pottage Watches Hermione Get Railed by the Pool Boy at January 06, 2025

Woof....looked her up. Homely. Not a one. Certainly not now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (Zz0t1)

271 I will never forget that Ace wrote a great post in 2017 (iirc) predicting all of this for the Never Trump movement. The only surprise was how many of them decided to go all-in on leftism, but that's where the money was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (wyMQY)

272 WHAAAAAAT????
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

yep, NBA players that play in Portland Oregon have to pay income tax on the wages from that game. Generally it is taken care of by the team, or a manager of some sort, but at times that slips through.
Strippers and musicians too.

The one thing is that the state tax department mostly can only recover wages by bank garnishments, wage garnishments, asset garnishments like stock accounts, and by issuing liens against real estate
Places like Florida have a homestead exclusion against things like liens, and Texas does not recognize "out of state" decisions and requires out of state tax authorities to file in a Texas court, via a Texas lawyer

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 05:04 PM (D7oie)

273 About twenty minutes until I can tiptoe out of here!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 05:04 PM (J2vNu)

274 Ideally you want a low state home team that is in a division of low state teams as well. That’s how you minimize taxes.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (5y+cL)

AFC North might be pretty good. Cleveland, Cincy, Baltimore, Pittsburg. Low house prices but small cities

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:04 PM (n7h9X)

275 You pay tax where you earn money. If you play a game in Los Angeles, then the money earned for that game is subject to Cali tax. Doesn’t matter where the player lives.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (5y+cL)

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Huh. Are all companies treated that way?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:04 PM (gaKF9)

276 You pay tax where you earn money. If you play a game in Los Angeles, then the money earned for that game is subject to Cali tax. Doesn’t matter where the player lives.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (5y+cL)
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Same way as if you live in Washington and work in Oregon, you're screwed.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radiactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 05:05 PM (6K6Eu)

277 I will never forget that Ace wrote a great post in 2017 (iirc) predicting all of this for the Never Trump movement. The only surprise was how many of them decided to go all-in on leftism, but that's where the money was.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (wyMQY)
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I didn't know about his calling them "grifters" back then, he told me he knew enough of them and, yes, they were.

Which they proved to me at almost every turn.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:05 PM (krQz2)

278 260 The only Brad Thor book I read was "Last Patriot" and it was lame. He lost me as a reader just by not being good at writing.
Posted by: gKWVE at January 06, 2025 05:00 PM (gKWVE)

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Give Will Jordan's "Redemption" a try. Good stuff....and the added benefit is that Will is aka "The Critical Drinker".

Posted by: Orson at January 06, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

279 > WHAAAAAAT????
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 04:57 PM (gaKF9)

Oh, it gets worse than that. Some years ago, Other Brother Fredo tried to make medical personnel who'd come to New York to help out with a disaster pay New York income tax, and not just for the short time they were in New York, but for the entire year.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 06, 2025 05:05 PM (W5ArC)

280 Yep.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 06, 2025 05:05 PM (6K6Eu)

281 I don't get how that's legal?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (gaKF9)

I knew New York did it, because they constantly tried to go after Rush once he'd moved to Florida. NY would try to get money from him even when he was doing things like spending one day in the state. But no one pulled NY up short so I guess it set precedent.

Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting on a sick kitty at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (I/S59)

282 215 > Holy shit Mona Charen? Haven’t heard that name in 20 years.

Did everybody on the McLaughlin group.

Posted by: Auspex at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (j4U/Z)

283 There is also the city tax.. work in the boundary of big city? Pay up sukkah

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (/6GbT)

284
You pay tax where you earn money. If you play a game in Los Angeles, then the money earned for that game is subject to Cali tax. Doesn’t matter where the player lives.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:03 PM (5y+cL)

Uh......Not sure that's all that accurate. I used to travel a LOT for work. I get paid according to the state I live in, no matter where I work.

Unless the player is paid by the team in the state outside their home address and team, I don't think they're taxed at the state level by simply playing there.

That would be ridiculous. Imagine baseball....your tax filings would be 300 pages long.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (Zz0t1)

285 If you’re 65 and you don’t live in a new mud district, property taxes in Texas aren’t too bad since there are not any state income tax. What is the property tax rate in the other non state income states?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (D6PGr)

*cough* Just thinking ahead here- what does one need to do to notify the property tax authorities swhen (in the distant future) they turn 65 ?

Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (lCppi)

286 I salute the virility of any moron who ever thought Mona Charen was a 1. Your dick is a might engine.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (h/5hh)

287 "Ronald Reagan would want us to vote Democrat to thwart Trump" -- Bill Kristol almost said.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (krQz2)

288 Brad Thor was a never Trumper, I don't know his current thinking on the subject.

Jack Carr said he was very helpful to him as a new writer, so for that I'm grateful.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (gaKF9)

289 109 What was Jonah's newsletter called?
Posted by: Inogame
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"Don't mind the smell"

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (+oR7L)

290 The Heisman winner might have a chance, but Prime's kid will not make it as a QB in the NFL. He's too small and can't read a defense. Sure, there was Drew Brees and Doug Flutie, but Sanders is neither of those men.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:01 PM (Zz0t1)

I think the assumption was Sanders was going to be the #1 pick, but apparently that's in doubt at this point anyway.

I don't know, I think the NFL has fallen in love with running QB's, and really, there aren't that many really good ones out there. They don't necessarily win games, even if they pad their stats.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (dGCAG)

291 don't know how I feel about it--it was ruled he could have stopped after the perp was laying on the floor and hadn't gotten back to his feet.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:01 PM (TN0g+)

They guy in Texas wasn’t indicted after delivering a kill shot to the Taqueria robber laying motionless on the ground. Or the neighbor who blew away a burglar carrying out a TV from his neighbors house.

Capital murder and life for a guy just minding his business when he killed an armed thug trying to rob him. At the most he should have been charged with manslaughter.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (D6PGr)

292 Uh......Not sure that's all that accurate. I used to travel a LOT for work. I get paid according to the state I live in, no matter where I work.

Unless the player is paid by the team in the state outside their home address and team, I don't think they're taxed at the state level by simply playing there.

That would be ridiculous. Imagine baseball....your tax filings would be 300 pages long.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (Zz0t1)

I think they probably are.

We still earn some income in California but haven't lived there in years and believe me, they monitor every penny.

Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (lCppi)

293 If they wanted to have any level of credibility for their grift, they should have at least pretended to be okay with Republicans who weren't Trump.

But if you're supporting every liberal cause and want to see every Republican defeated (including those that aren't Trump), why are we still saying these are NeverTrump conservatives?

They're just partisan liberal Democrats. The fact they used to be Republicans is pretty meaningless (and also probably not true)

Posted by: Leupold at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (4pwAx)

294 I don't know, I think the NFL has fallen in love with running QB's, and really, there aren't that many really good ones out there. They don't necessarily win games, even if they pad their stats.
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Anthony Richardson and Justin Fields have entered the chat...

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (TN0g+)

295 At the end of the day all states fuck you with taxes. Some have high income some have high property some have high sales. But they all get yiu one way or another.

And then there’s California and Illinois which take the game to a whole other level. But aside from those few outliers, yiu pay about the same no matter where you live. The only difference is the breakdown.

Florida has no income tax. Great. But every highway in the state is a toll road and not a cheap toll road. You can spend $20 a day just on a regular commute. Things like that. It balances out for the most part in the end.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (5y+cL)

296 254 I think the trial of the Oklahoma pharmacist who was convicted of capital murder was the most unfair verdict ever.

Minding his own business when two armed thugs attempted to rob his business. The resulting interaction resulted in one of the thugs dead. Pharmacist gets life.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 04:56 PM (D6PGr)

I remember that case - what nailed the pharmacist was the surveillance cam video. He got one of the perps on the ground, then went out to chase and shoot at the other one. Pharmacist came back in, 1st perp was laying face down on the ground, not moving, and he reached down and shot him point blank in the back of the head. Jury said that looked like an execution, not a justified shoot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (wyMQY)

297 cough* Just thinking ahead here- what does one need to do to notify the property tax authorities swhen (in the distant future) they turn 65 ?
Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (lCppi)

File your homestead exemption for 65 with your tax authority in your county.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (D6PGr)

298 Chad Johnson of the Bengals lived at the stadium for a few years at the start of his career, getting free dinners from the cafeteria and paying no rent. Marvin Lewis finally made him get an apartment.

He was pretty sensible about money -- he bought fake jewelry for bling and flew on budget airlines.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (n7h9X)

299 Google Jock Tax. It explains it all.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (5y+cL)

300 Bill was already very anti-Trump but they agreed to play for his DC power top escorts for a year.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoice at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (vogOC)

301 Ronald Reagan would want us to vote Democrat to thwart Trump" -- Bill Kristol almost said.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:07 PM (krQz2)

That's almost a direct quote from Karl (Marx) Rove and his rabid, anti-Trump brother in arms, George Will.

Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (lCppi)

302 281 I don't get how that's legal?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (gaKF9)

I knew New York did it, because they constantly tried to go after Rush once he'd moved to Florida. NY would try to get money from him even when he was doing things like spending one day in the state. But no one pulled NY up short so I guess it set precedent.
Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting on a sick kitty at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (I/S59)

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NY changed their law. I used to commute into Manhattan for work from PA. I used to have to pay full State taxes in both states (although, NY called it something different like a wage tax or something). Eventually, they shot down the law. I don't think it remains applicable currently.

Posted by: Orson at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (dIske)

303 Where do you pay taxes if you win money in Vegas?

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (vFG9F)

304 > At the end of the day all states fuck you with taxes. Some have high income some have high property some have high sales. But they all get yiu one way or another.

Alaska has neither (some cities and boroughs have property taxes, but nothing at the state level).

We fuck oil companies instead.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (W5ArC)

305 Uh......Not sure that's all that accurate. I used to travel a LOT for work. I get paid according to the state I live in, no matter where I work.

Unless the player is paid by the team in the state outside their home address and team, I don't think they're taxed at the state level by simply playing there.

That would be ridiculous. Imagine baseball....your tax filings would be 300 pages long.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (Zz0t1)

You were paid by your employer that you have a wage agreement with in your home state. Your travel was not important. I don't know why ball players are treated differently, but they are. I suspect Oregon couldn't dare see that sort of money paid out and not get a taste of it.
Musicians and dancers are paid by the venue, though, and they are often paid as 1099 employees and are responsible for their own wages.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (D7oie)

306 Google Jock Tax. It explains it all.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (5y+cL)

I will google NOTHING and like it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

307 I never heard of Sarah Longwell before now. Thanks for the information.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at January 06, 2025 05:11 PM (p9rFX)

308 File your homestead exemption for 65 with your tax authority in your county.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (D6PGr)

Thank you. I will file this information away for the distant future. ; )

Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:11 PM (lCppi)

309 Is George Will dead? I haven't heard about that smug idiot in a long time.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:11 PM (gaKF9)

310 Where do you pay taxes if you win money in Vegas?
Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (vFG9F)

If it's enough, you'll get a 1099 as it's income.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (Zz0t1)

311 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:09 PM (wyMQY)

He said the perp was moving . It was all heat of the moment of the entire scenario. Either he wasn’t moving and was already dead or the pharmacist was correct when he said he saw the perp move.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (D6PGr)

312 Is George Will dead? I haven't heard about that smug idiot in a long time.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:11 PM (gaKF9)
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Just pining for the (baseball) fields.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (krQz2)

313 good for Kellyanne!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (cY18j)

314 Is George Will dead? I haven't heard about that smug idiot in a long time.
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I used to like his baseball articles...until I found out he was a political traitor and grifter.

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (TN0g+)

315 At the end of the day all states fuck you with taxes. Some have high income some have high property some have high sales. But they all get yiu one way or another.

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There's still usually a big difference between blue states and red states on this. I know someone that pays almost $5k a month for JUST their property taxes. And it's not a mansion. Like 2800 sq feet.

I usually don't resent my state taxes as much as my federal taxes. I at least get to see what my state taxes pay for. Federal just goes down a black hole and takes almost half.

Posted by: Leupold at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (4pwAx)

316 I could be wrong, the ball players might have been showing up for some promotion or other, and not as part of the team, but I didn't hear it like that.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (D7oie)

317 Ah, yes. George Will and baseball.

He always struck me as the kind of guy who'd go screaming for mommy if he ever got beaned.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (W5ArC)

318 Unless the player is paid by the team in the state outside their home address and team, I don't think they're taxed at the state level by simply playing there.

That would be ridiculous. Imagine baseball....your tax filings would be 300 pages long.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM
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When Rush Limbaugh move to FL I think he mentioned being taxed at NY rates when he did his show from NY.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (hoCmQ)

319 I don't know, I think the NFL has fallen in love with running QB's, and really, there aren't that many really good ones out there. They don't necessarily win games, even if they pad their stats.
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Anthony Richardson and Justin Fields have entered the chat...
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:08 PM (TN0g+)

Even in these decaying times, having your star QB hit while your big powerful OL you pay big money for are on another part of the field isn't the best value for money. And even the slowest QB can tuck it and run for a first down if they are ignored. The differential between yards gained by a big runner and a wily slow veteran isn't that large.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (n7h9X)

320
I will google NOTHING and like it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Fine. How about Lycos or AskJeeves? 😀

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (5y+cL)

321 >>> I don't know how I feel about it--it was ruled he could have stopped after the perp was laying on the floor and hadn't gotten back to his feet.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:01 PM (TN0g+)

Well, the pharmacist did forcibly say, "wait until your number is called".

Posted by: banana Dream at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (Y6IkP)

322 I always imagined gruel to be basically hot water in which cabbage was boiled, as well as any other rotting vegetable scraps - luck if the cabbage was still in there.
A favorite feedslop of old prison stories.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's just Basic man! at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (i0xsb)

323 George Will was gay for baseball.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:13 PM (krQz2)

324 =====
I used to like his baseball articles...until I found out he was a political traitor and grifter.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (TN0g+)

Now do Mitch Albom.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (Zz0t1)

325 It's my understanding that major Dem donors are unhappy with the amount they've spent and the return they've gotten.

It's easy to be profligate and hurl cash at any old fools the Party asks you to when you're confident of positive ROI.

But that confidence is seriously shaken, so that's going to mean belt-tightening and a closer examination of just who deserves payoffs.

I have a feeling the snuffling little piggies at the Bulwark might finally get sent away from the trough, crying "ree ree ree" all the way home.

That would explain JV Last's bugeyed hysteria on election night. Unlike his fat goblin boss Kristol, he probably hasn't accrued that "generational wealth," so he's looking at having to do unspeakable things at DC glory holes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)

326 *cough* Just thinking ahead here- what does one need to do to notify the property tax authorities swhen (in the distant future) they turn 65 ?
Posted by: LASue at January 06, 2025 05:06 PM (lCppi)

This seems a good site: https://tinyurl.com/2dsj3s7k+

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (ExV1e)

327 320 I will google NOTHING and like it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Fine. How about Lycos or AskJeeves?

do they have a blimp?

Posted by: AltaVista at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (v3pYe)

328 Certainly a lot of possibilities now:

@Breaking911 2m
DEVELOPING: Large fire raging near Touro Hospital in New Orleans; cause unknown

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (IG4Id)

329 Some cities get in on the action as well taxing visiting players. It’s real and a spectacular source of income.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (5y+cL)

330 If it's enough, you'll get a 1099 as it's income.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (Zz0t1)

I do believe it is a 1099-misc

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (D7oie)

331 "If it's enough, you'll get a 1099 as it's income.
Posted by: Sponge"

Yes, but what state would you owe taxes in? Nevada or your home state?

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

332 In CA, they tax all the athletes incomes that play in their stadiums. They come up with some figure for that 1 day.

It's stupid and usually they can only collect it on high profile people.

Posted by: Leupold at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (4pwAx)

333 Even in these decaying times, having your star QB hit while your big powerful OL you pay big money for are on another part of the field isn't the best value for money. And even the slowest QB can tuck it and run for a first down if they are ignored. The differential between yards gained by a big runner and a wily slow veteran isn't that large.
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I agree totally. Lamar Jackson is a freak and I won't say anything negative about him...except to point out that Joe Flacco has a Super Bowl Ring.

Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (TN0g+)

334 It's my understanding that major Dem donors are unhappy with the amount they've spent and the return they've gotten.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)
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As will the voters in every blue city someday.

Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

335 Is George Will dead? I haven't heard about that smug idiot in a long time.
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I used to like his baseball articles...until I found out he was a political traitor and grifter.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (TN0g+)

They never smelled right to me, a bit too much pretend nostalgia that felt forced. Field of Dreams painting and not actual baseball with spikes fielders legs on the bases and throwing at people's heads at bat.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:16 PM (n7h9X)

336 I can't imagine George Will attending a baseball game.

So.
Many.
Dungarees.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 06, 2025 05:16 PM (BI5O2)

337 "I know someone that pays almost $5k a month for JUST their property taxes"

Yikes. And what do they get for that?

Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:17 PM (vFG9F)

338 I will google NOTHING and like it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025
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Fine. How about Lycos or AskJeeves? 😀
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025

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Ah, AltaVista . . . !

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 05:17 PM (J2vNu)

339 267 If you’re 65 and you don’t live in a new mud district, property taxes in Texas aren’t too bad since there are not any state income tax. What is the property tax rate in the other non state income states?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:02 PM (D6PGr)

Yes on Texas property taxes. When I turned 65 my combined property tax bill from City of Houston and Harris County dropped to ZERO dollars per year. My separate school district and water district taxes (I reside in a small, very odd, property tax zone) reduced by about two-thirds. Yay!

Posted by: Gref at January 06, 2025 05:17 PM (aBgBM)

340 "I know someone that pays almost $5k a month for JUST their property taxes"

Yikes. And what do they get for that?
Posted by: fd
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A homeless camp a few blocks away in their public park.

Posted by: Leupold at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (4pwAx)

341 He said the perp was moving . It was all heat of the moment of the entire scenario. Either he wasn’t moving and was already dead or the pharmacist was correct when he said he saw the perp move.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 06, 2025 05:12 PM (D6PGr)

He shouldn't have been charged with anything more than manslaughter and given a suspended sentence - but video makes things look really bad to juries, who seldom understand the pressures of the moment.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (wyMQY)

342 I agree totally. Lamar Jackson is a freak and I won't say anything negative about him...except to point out that Joe Flacco has a Super Bowl Ring.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (TN0g+)

Lamar also lost a good part of 2 seasons in the last 4 on injured reserve. Of course Burrow has lost 2 of the last 5 due to injury as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (n7h9X)

343 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (u73oe)

344 England is threatening to extradite and arrest US citizens who go against their social media policies. I think we need to flood UK sites with lots of mentions of Islamic scum who rape children.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (gaKF9)

345 The jock tax isn’t only for athletes. That would be illegal. It’s technically applicable to anyone. You go on a work trip to San Diego for 3 days you technically have to pay California taxes for those 3 days. So 3/365 of your salary.

But nobody files and California doesn’t really care because that 3 days worth of tax you’d pay would cost more to process for them. But when it’s a player earning $3.5M for an NFL game, then they expect that tax return to be filed.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:19 PM (5y+cL)

346
Yes, but what state would you owe taxes in? Nevada or your home state?
Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

Not sure. Never won enough in a casino to worry about.

The 1099 is federal, but I don't know of anyone getting a state tax form from a casino that has a state income tax. I would have to ask those that have pulled coin out of Oklahoma and see.

If that's the case, glad I don't gamble.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 06, 2025 05:19 PM (Zz0t1)

347 That would explain JV Last's bugeyed hysteria on election night. Unlike his fat goblin boss Kristol, he probably hasn't accrued that "generational wealth," so he's looking at having to do unspeakable things at DC glory holes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)

Some of Last's idiotic totalitarian rants have me convinced that he's probably the worst of the bunch; he seems like he'd happily be another Beria if he was given the opportunity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 05:20 PM (wyMQY)

348 I thought you only have to pay income taxes in other states for the time you earned money in those states -- like one game check.

Also, Nashville is not Hicksville. It has more going on there Tuesday night than some cities have all year. Plus Paul McCartney used to live there.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 06, 2025 05:20 PM (wBaIH)

349 gruel is some sort of meal boiled in water, Grain, millet, sorghum, amaranth, or what ever you have. (not corn meal, that is mush or samp)

If you are lucky there is a bit of meat or broth in it, or if you are really lucky there is some milk.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2025 05:21 PM (D7oie)

350 I have a feeling the snuffling little piggies at the Bulwark might finally get sent away from the trough, crying "ree ree ree" all the way home.

That would explain JV Last's bugeyed hysteria on election night. Unlike his fat goblin boss Kristol, he probably hasn't accrued that "generational wealth," so he's looking at having to do unspeakable things at DC glory holes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 06, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)

The NTers are pocket change, and with Trump in town might be worth it to harry Trump, however bad they are.

Now Kamala's team and the DNC who spent a billion or more in 100 days somehow might be higher on the list to get even with.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:21 PM (n7h9X)

351 File your homestead exemption for 65 with your tax authority in your county.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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Here: "As of the time of publication, homeowners who, along with their spouse, earn under $42,150 annually, may qualify for the homestead exemption. The homeowner must also have owned the property and permanently resided there for five years, be at least 65 years of age or be totally and permanently disabled, and a North Carolina resident. Exempted taxes are deferred and a lien is placed on the property. The amount of the exemption equals 4 percent of the property owner's income."

Not exactly a life-altering 'benefit'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2025 05:21 PM (XeU6L)

352 Nashville is home to Hawk Tuah Girl. That place is ground zero for action.

But seriously it’s definitely a trendy city today. Anyone who thinks it’s Hicksville doesn’t really know what they’re talking about.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:22 PM (5y+cL)

353 England is threatening to extradite and arrest US citizens who go against their social media policies. I think we need to flood UK sites with lots of mentions of Islamic scum who rape children.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 06, 2025 05:18 PM (gaKF9)

Or English Gentry and elites.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:23 PM (n7h9X)

354 Nashville is home to Hawk Tuah Girl. That place is ground zero for action.

But seriously it’s definitely a trendy city today. Anyone who thinks it’s Hicksville doesn’t really know what they’re talking about.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 05:22 PM (5y+cL)

And its about an hour, hour and a half drive to Atlanta to the South and the Ohio river cities to the north.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 06, 2025 05:24 PM (n7h9X)

355 As will the voters in every blue city someday.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

Already happening in Joisey.
NY I dunno. The Donkey machine is very strong there, less reliant on unions.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 06, 2025 05:25 PM (gKWVE)

356 Biden released Yemeni terrorists. Good go home and be blown up by Israel

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 06, 2025 05:26 PM (c+GDc)

357 The high schools in my area are like luxury college campuses. And the admin campus is even more ridiculous.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 06, 2025 05:28 PM (XMwZJ)

358 Sundowner taking a wrecking ball to the Country

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 05:29 PM (fwDg9)

359 257 There is currently the very slightest fall of microscopic snow in the ATL region. Almost imperceptible.
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So the roads will be littered with wrecks....

285 will look like the zombie apocalypse just happened.

Posted by: Farquad at January 06, 2025 05:40 PM (CFMhl)

360 Beltway relics of the Bush-Romney establishment who smugly cast themselves as the true heirs of Ronald Reagan,

This..
At the time 1988 I think most of US voters were LIV's.
Herbert Walker was the former head of the CIA for chrissake!!! Somewhere the story exists that was reported HW was not Reagans pick for VP, but was foisted upon him by the establishment .
As a result of GA Gentleman His Honorable Sir James Cartier Nuclear Submariner Extraordinaire term in office. Carier foundered the nation upon the rocks of uncharted waters of national failure. This directly influenced me to research the Presidential candidates in the 1980 election and resulted in my breaking generational commitments to the Old Democrat Party.
In hindsight the assassination of JFK the turning point.
DJT being the political novice/genius has set his sights further back to the assassination of McKinley...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 06, 2025 05:42 PM (jQ+5q)

361 I think I could fuck some sense into Sarah Longwell, but I will need to see dat azz first.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2025 05:50 PM (aD39U)

362 So DDT did the predictable: It cozied up to mega-donors on the Left.

NeverTrump thinks only of Principle and Patriotism, you know.

They did what all principled, patriotic whores do; "Me Love You LOOONG Time, Honey, if you've got the Money!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 06, 2025 05:50 PM (ynpvh)

363 Michael J. Totten was an editor at The Bulwark early on. I happened to see him listed while browsing the Bulwark’s “about” and “staff” pages.

Waybackmachine may have archived it if the Bulwark allowed web crawlers.

Totten’s previous gig at World Affairs Journal ended when the publisher died of an incurable ailment. The final year

Posted by: 13times at January 06, 2025 06:11 PM (1k16i)

364 Take a look at The Bulwark's archives. Lots of articles about Ukraine. Silent on Gaza.

Bill Kristol previously founded the Emergency Committee for Israel, but it turns out he has no interest in defending Jews, and instead is all about getting the money.

Posted by: MikeN at January 06, 2025 07:31 PM (HVZOH)

365 It's a refuge for bitter Beltway relics of the Bush-Romney establishment who smugly cast themselves as the true heirs of Ronald Reagan, rather than out-of-touch elites more aligned with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden than the Gipper.

Ugh. Stop calling these people "elite". They're not elite in any way. They're just political parasites whose gravy train was derailed by Trump's election. They had to find someone else to pay the bills, and that person turned out to be a left wing billionaire.

That's the long and the short of it. These are people used to making a lot of money for not doing much, and they sold their souls to make it last a few years longer.

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