Trump Gives Mike Johnson His "Complete and Total Endorsement" to Remain Speaker

President-elect Donald Trump on Monday reaffirmed his support for Speaker Mike Johnson to continue leading the House of Representatives, framing Johnson as a pivotal figure in addressing the challenges inherited from the Biden administration. In his post on Truth Social, Trump underscored the Republican Party's resounding 2024 victory, stating, "We are the Party of COMMON SENSE, a primary reason that we WON, in a landslide, the magnificent and historic Presidential Election of 2024."
The president-elect contrasted the GOP's disciplined campaign with what he labeled the Democrats' financial wastefulness and questionable tactics. "Democrats are being excoriated for their effort, having wasted 2.5 Billion Dollars, much of it unaccounted for," he said, alleging endorsements were improperly purchased from celebrities like Beyoncé and Oprah Winfrey.
Trump's endorsement of Johnson carried significant weight, with the president-elect declaring, "Speaker Mike Johnson is a good, hard-working, religious man. He will do the right thing, and we will continue to WIN. Mike has my Complete & Total Endorsement." By urging Republicans to seize the moment, Trump conveyed urgency, warning, "LETS NOT BLOW THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHICH WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN."

The "heroes" of the Freedom Caucus are getting on my last nerve -- their refusal to vote for Mike Johnson as Speaker (even though they have not put forward any candidate who could get 218 votes) means that Trump and Vance will not be able to take the offices of president and vice president.

That'll show the left, huh? The insurrection will come right from the allegedly "conservative" Freedom Caucus.

But there are only two weeks between January 6 and January 20. If the House can't find a Speaker in time to get the election certified, President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance cannot take office even though President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris will leave their posts.
With a non-functioning House, Trump, Vance and the House Speaker are out of the chain-of-command, which puts the Senate pro tempore in as acting president. On January 20, 2025, that will be Republican Senator Chuck Grassley.

I'm getting very tired of these narcissists grandstanding every five minutes so we can all admire their Purity.

Note to the "heroes" of the Freedom Caucus: If you block Trump from being sworn in as President on January 20th at precisely 12 o'clock noon sharp, we are coming for you.

Posted by: Ace at 04:15 PM

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1 ... Trump and Pence?

I had to check the date stamp like 4 times.

Posted by: Qwinn at December 30, 2024 04:17 PM (I3XdN)

2 Oh wow, my first first!

Posted by: Qwinn at December 30, 2024 04:17 PM (I3XdN)

3 It's 2016 all over again.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 30, 2024 04:17 PM (/U5Yz)

4 "Speaker Mike Johnson is a good, hard-working, religious man."

A Good Christian, like Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2024 04:18 PM (Cus5s)

5 How's the weather in Argentina?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 30, 2024 04:20 PM (/U5Yz)

6 and, are the Argentinian girls hot?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 30, 2024 04:20 PM (/U5Yz)

7 The Freedom Cockus will grandstand and suck their own dicks, but they'll fold. There's no way they hold up Trump's confirmation and swearing in.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 30, 2024 04:22 PM (iFTx/)

8 Then put Jeffries in there.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 30, 2024 04:23 PM (ufFY8)

9 I have no problem with their voicing their displeasure at Johnson. He was a lousy choice. I'm sure a second vote will come along and they'll let it happen, but if they want to get a protest vote on the record before doing so, fine by me.

Posted by: Qwinn at December 30, 2024 04:24 PM (I3XdN)

10 All in Paul's letter to the Theologians: do unto others then cut out

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 30, 2024 04:25 PM (QSrLX)

11 The Dems are evil and stupid but at least they stick together when it counts.

Posted by: fd at December 30, 2024 04:25 PM (vFG9F)

12 Not defending anyone but the absolute last thing that Trump needs is a long drawn out fight for speaker of the house happening right before he is sworn in.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 30, 2024 04:28 PM (Rcnd3)

13 Oh, apparently China hacked the US Treasury dept. NYT has devoted an exhaustive 7 paragraphs getting to the bottom of it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 30, 2024 04:28 PM (R8aHn)

14 Johnson went along with the 1500 page spend-a-thon. I ain't no fan of Mike Johnson either.

Posted by: DanMan at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (8uzBS)

15 I consider the there will be no Speaker and thus the elctors can't be certified to be Leftist fantasy.

Here's my issue: there have to be consequences for breaking political deals. If it is true that Mike Johnson made agreements for support to be Speaker and then broke those agreements, then, yes, he deserves to be ousted.

I get where you are coming from, ace, what with agreeing with that view.

I just want to know how there can be consequences for breaking deals if the threat is always well you have no one else.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (PppOa)

16 Yeah, get sworn in and bitch later.

Is there anything the GOP can't fuck up?

Good grief...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (ufFY8)

17 I nominate for Speaker, a Ham Sandwich!

Posted by: Reuban On Rye at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (lX1hk)

18 Get them sworn in and then deal with Johnson. Sheesh.

Posted by: fd at December 30, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)

19 and, are the Argentinian girls hot?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 30, 2024 04:20 PM (/U5Yz)

youtu.be/xMbuFneifDg

Posted by: Kindltot at December 30, 2024 04:30 PM (D7oie)

20 I don’t have any real problem with Johnson.

But I’m starting to feel the same about the Freedom Caucus. That they handed Trump a pre-Presidency defeat with the funding bill and accomplished nothing irks me to no end.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 30, 2024 04:30 PM (D6PGr)

21 I ain't no fan of Mike Johnson either.
Posted by: DanMan at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (8uzBS)

DanMan Johnson is right!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 30, 2024 04:31 PM (ufFY8)

22 4 "Speaker Mike Johnson is a good, hard-working, religious man."

A Good Christian, like Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: illiniwek

Who are you to criticize the faith of another?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 30, 2024 04:32 PM (dg+HA)

23 Johnson is a malicious, destructive scourge. Anyone willing to tolerate him deserves the results.

Posted by: Bill Underwood at December 30, 2024 04:32 PM (KqWEd)

24 I want Johnson out, but Trump has to work with the winner, and its almost certainly going to be him. This is just politics, its the stuff Trump does a lot: he'll butter up and work with foes, trying to turn them to his side. Its the kind of stuff I couldn't do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:32 PM (RsS92)

25 Posted by: alexthechick at December 30, 2024 04:29 PM (PppOa)

What deal did he break or is that just behind the scenes rumor?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 30, 2024 04:33 PM (D6PGr)

26 youtu.be/xMbuFneifDg
Posted by: Kindltot at December 30, 2024 04:30 PM (D7oie)

Hola, Argentina!

Donde esta Jackie Guerrido?

Por favor, no come mi gato.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 30, 2024 04:34 PM (ufFY8)

27 Enemies to the left, traitors to the right...

Posted by: steevy at December 30, 2024 04:34 PM (KQk9m)

28 Sadly
STRIKE ONE!

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2024 04:34 PM (fwDg9)

29 But I’m starting to feel the same about the Freedom Caucus. That they handed Trump a pre-Presidency defeat with the funding bill and accomplished nothing irks me to no end.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 30, 2024 04:30 PM (D6PGr)

I am so old I remember the endless kvetching about being forced to vote for Mitt Romney and McCain because there was no other option, and how in the future we should stand our ground and not surrender because our principles were more important.

I think it was last October and there were no similar situations presenting themselves then. But that was then.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 30, 2024 04:35 PM (D7oie)

30 Finally, a hill not worth dying on is truly not worth it. When you have the momentum, you don't bicker.

Posted by: spongeworthy at December 30, 2024 04:35 PM (CDWlY)

31 Christopher I really do hope you're right

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2024 04:35 PM (fwDg9)

32 The whole "Freedom Caucus can't object unless they have a candidate who can win 218 votes" line feels straight out of the Uniparty. Who can conveniently state "you can't object unless you can win 218 votes" while also holding sway over so many that's it's impossible to get 218 without them...

That said, they shouldn't be objecting without ANY proposal for change. Just feels like worthless theater to object without a specific proposal. State who they want for speaker and lobby for it. But if they don't win, decide on what they can support to make 218 without shutting everything down and move on.

Posted by: bearski at December 30, 2024 04:36 PM (Bhsk7)

33 What deal did he break or is that just behind the scenes rumor?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 30, 2024 04:33 PM (D6PGr)

This is off the top of my head so I may be wrong.

Assurances were given that the spending bills would not be done the way it was - negotiated behind closed doors and then presented as fait accompli.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 30, 2024 04:36 PM (PppOa)

34 Never underestimate the ability of the Republican Party to FUCK THINGS UP.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 30, 2024 04:36 PM (wtvvX)

35 Ace, your boy DeSantis is reaping even more wins in Florida...he certainly is showing a successful blueprint for Republicans:

The Hill: A second Democratic Florida legislator has switched parties to the GOP this month, citing her former party’s lack of unified support for Israel.

State Rep. Hillary Cassel (R) said in a Friday statement on the social platform X that she is not making the decision lightly, but she is joining the Republican Party because she believes in its “vision for a better, more prosperous Florida.”

Sounds like a liar. “I’m constantly troubled by the inability of the current Democratic Party to relate to everyday Floridians.” GOP talking point. Maybe she can mosey on up to some of those MAGA extremists in the GOP and ask how they feel about Jewish people (she's Jewish)?

The Republicans relate to you? A quick reminder that they were chanting "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville.

She just can't be in a party that has members who oppose the slaughter of unarmed innocent women and children by one the best equipped military in the world.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 30, 2024 04:37 PM (4JziI)

36 This type of stuff happens when your political party is 99% shit.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 30, 2024 04:37 PM (I72M3)

37 Mike Davis suggests Biden is charging for pardons. I am not surprised:

Mike Davis
@mrddmia
And did Matthew Graves and his @USAO_DC January 6th hack prosecutors secure their Biden pardons?
Or they couldn’t afford what Biden charges?

Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2024 04:37 PM (3ImbR)

38 I'd like to see Johnson ousted. I don't agree with Trump endorsing him.

That said, what I want is obedience from the GOP. The only reason they're even still a fake ass Party at all is because of Trump. They better do whatever he says, Freedom Caucus or Cuck Caucus, it doesn't matter. No more of their accursed impertinence. They're nothing but a bunch of obsolete remoras and they need to learn their place - at *our* mercy, by virtue of *our* chosen leader.

Kneel and kiss the ring or get the fuck out of here. I'm tired of hearing these people run their cockslots.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 30, 2024 04:37 PM (BI5O2)

39 That said, they shouldn't be objecting without ANY proposal for change. Just feels like worthless theater to object without a specific proposal. State who they want for speaker and lobby for it. But if they don't win, decide on what they can support to make 218 without shutting everything down and move on.

Posted by: bearski at December 30, 2024 04:36 PM (Bhsk7)

That's adult and reasonable so we can't do that.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 30, 2024 04:38 PM (PppOa)

40 Does anyone else have political fatigue? I'm having a hard time with the sausage making.

I may take a break and focus on seed planting for 2025. Some of them want to overwinter outdoors in Jan/Feb.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 30, 2024 04:38 PM (w6EFb)

41
When will Republicans stop shooting themselves in the head?

If there ever was the opportunity for a great kumbaya Republican moment, it's Trump's Inauguration.

It's just stupid to throw a spanner into that.

Plus, what are the FC a-hol;es thinking? You don't place a demand on something that you absolutely can't obtain.

You make a demand when you're sure that you can obtain your goal or are very close to obtaining your goal.

"I wish we could have something different" is not a plan, jerkoffs. "We want Joe Blow and have 175 committed votes" is a plan.

Pro Tip: Jerking off in public, no matter how virtuosic you are at pulling your pod, impresses no one.

So, don't do it.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 30, 2024 04:39 PM (iJfKG)

42 Christopher I really do hope you're right

Trump is very easily manipulated as well, and could be turned into GOPe with some brains on their side (a safe bet they will not) so... we'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:40 PM (RsS92)

43 Total clown show

Same people that thought Gaetz was some rising star.

I’m not a fan of Johnson either, not surprised a speaker of the house is going to be an establishmentarian, but put up someone else or shut up.

Posted by: Maroon at December 30, 2024 04:40 PM (dlYWF)

44 Posted by: alexthechick at December 30, 2024 04:36 PM (PppOa)

That sounds probable but I’m sure there is a difference of opinion on exactly what was agreed upon if it’s not in writing. It’s the way of the Hill.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 30, 2024 04:40 PM (D6PGr)

45
Where have you gone Señor Chuy?
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 30, 2024 04:40 PM (a3Q+t)

46 That said, what I want is obedience from the GOP. The only reason they're even still a fake ass Party at all is because of Trump. They better do whatever he says, Freedom Caucus or Cuck Caucus, it doesn't matter. No more of their accursed impertinence

I agree. The GOP needs to knuckle down and do their job for us, and work with Trump. They need to bow to the king. Enough of this crap, they wouldn't even be a party without him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:41 PM (RsS92)

47 24 I want Johnson out, but Trump has to work with the winner, and its almost certainly going to be him. This is just politics, its the stuff Trump does a lot: he'll butter up and work with foes, trying to turn them to his side. Its the kind of stuff I couldn't do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:32 PM (RsS92)

Bill Campbell, executive coach to Steve Jobs, the Google founders, and many other Silicon Valley big wigs, had a great quote about what to do if you're caught in a situation with no good options:

"If you have to eat sh!t, don't nibble."

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 30, 2024 04:41 PM (O4euI)

48 Mike Johnson is not the problem. He can be molded and shaped.

We need to focus on that dried-up, crusty fossil, Cocaine Mitch. Can we amend a continuation bill to get Mitch McConnell a Rascal scooter so he won't fall down and crack his fucking melon again?

Jesus, people!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 30, 2024 04:42 PM (rl6EB)

49 Massie is a "libertarian". Which effectively means he is an Anarchist Fifth Columnist in the Republican Party.
He is aligned with the Pauls, father and son. Which absolutely confirms the previous.
It also means that Rand Paul is either directly involved with this or not using his influence to deter Massie. Either way, it makes it clear which side he is on.

Never trust a libertarian. Ever. Especially when they believe they have the power to play spoiler.

Posted by: Sam at December 30, 2024 04:42 PM (7jMef)

50 Pro Tip: Jerking off in public, no matter how virtuosic you are at pulling your pod, impresses no one.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 30, 2024 04:39 PM

I dunno. I impressed people enough that they remember my name. I'm nearly even a meme!

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at December 30, 2024 04:42 PM (a3Q+t)

51 If the Freedom Caucus was serious about their principles, they would not portray such an anemic approach to trying to influence the Congress. INSTEAD, they would be paying much more attention to the constituencies of the congressional members that consistently vote against Conservative viewpoints.

If you organize a huge swath of voters in the offender's districts, they are going to be a lot more compliant. One could argue that it would be Tea Party 2.0 with the inevitable onslaught of grifters and diluters coming in to compromise the movement...and that would likely occur down the road....but not right away. These RINO jackasses need to start feeling pressure, and organizing their voters is one way to do it.

Posted by: Orson at December 30, 2024 04:44 PM (dIske)

52 >>I am so old I remember the endless kvetching about being forced to vote for Mitt Romney and McCain because there was no other option, and how in the future we should stand our ground and not surrender because our principles were more important.

I have no allegiance to Mike Johnson and I would like someone more conservative but we saw this same game with virtually the same cast 2 years ago. If someone can show me the path to getting someone better than Johnson actually elected Speaker I am all ears.

But if not and if Trump/Vance think they can work with him then I think it would be idiotic to have a replay of the last Speaker fight, waste a couple of weeks, only to end up with someone with someone pretty much the same as Mike Johnson.

The solution to getting a more conservative Speaker is to elect more conservative Reps. There's no magic here, as always we get what we vote for. We have a 1 or 2 vote margin of error and we have a whole lot more than 1 or 2 weasel in the Republican caucus right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2024 04:44 PM (LkLld)

53 Chuck Grassley would become the oldest President in our history.
We've had 4 years of that sort of history-making experiment and look where we are. No thanks. The only sure bets in a Grassley Administration would be a 5,000 percent increase of corn subsidy payments and a requirement that all new cars must be fueled by ethanol, only.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2024 04:44 PM (aBgBM)

54 Chuck Grassley would become the oldest President in our history.
We've had 4 years of that sort of history-making experiment and look where we are. No thanks. The only sure bets in a Grassley Administration would be a 5,000 percent increase of corn subsidy payments and a requirement that all new cars must be fueled by ethanol, only.
Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2024 04:44 PM (aBgBM)

Praise the corn !

Posted by: Chuck Methusela Grassley at December 30, 2024 04:45 PM (NtVYv)

55
Bill Campbell, executive coach to Steve Jobs

_________

He seems to have failed to impart little things like ethics, or charity, or diplomacy, or humility.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (dxSpM)

56 Oh FFS. What a bunch of whiny losers. But we knew that already, didn't we?

Congress, get yer poop in a group already. You have work to do. If you have issues, propose workable solutions or shut the hell up and sit the hell down.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (K861k)

57 I nominate for Speaker, a Ham Sandwich!
Posted by: Reuban On Rye
===
Bravo!

Posted by: the Mayo Clinic at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (hovnC)

58 I'd add to the below that Trump's CoS, the Ice Maiden, sent out a memo telling folks to shut up on the socials if they are nominees until they are confirmed.
You know, cause you stupids spouting off are not speaking for Trump.

Which kinda feels dumb that it even needed said but it does show she's gonna keep stupid shit to a minimum (Trump's mean tweets excluded).

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (0awbi)

59 The solution to getting a more conservative Speaker is to elect more conservative Reps. There's no magic here, as always we get what we vote for. We have a 1 or 2 vote margin of error and we have a whole lot more than 1 or 2 weasel in the Republican caucus right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2024 04:44 PM (LkLld)

Exactly. If Kash and Pam do their jobs and get all of the dirt on these Dems out there ASAP, the Republicans can go on offense and rout the Dems in the 2026 midterms. That will solidify the MAGA agenda, and obviate a need to compromise with a squish Speaker.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (O4euI)

60 Is there anything the GOP can't fuck up?

Good grief...
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Four or five times, just so they can be sure. It really is remarkable how they can f*ck up a good thing, so regularly.

Posted by: scampydog at December 30, 2024 04:47 PM (2bFN5)

61 Trump and Johnson have been tied at the hip since mid-November...no one else has been working Trump's ear and vice versa.

So, if we want Trump's policies, it's him or no one right now. If he breaks with Trump, he'll probably lose his 2026 race, so Johnson is not gonna be the problem getting Trump's policies enacted...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 30, 2024 04:47 PM (exHjb)

62 He seems to have failed to impart little things like ethics, or charity, or diplomacy, or humility.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:46 PM (dxSpM)

These are not traits of the psychopathic individual. You can't impart them. They will not stick.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:47 PM (K861k)

63 The Freedom Caucus needs to understand while the need for a lot of change is great, the reality is incremental change is the best we're going to get.

And, if the changes are codified into law, so much the better.

I really hope this isn't as bad as it sounds.

Though, lately, things tend to be worse than they sound.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 04:48 PM (tT6L1)

64 Hopefully, Trump now understands what a "veto" is.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (wXaLf)

65 The Speakership is Dead! Long live the Speakership!

Doesn't really seem to matter which widget gets inserted into the machine. It's going to sabotage Americans and normal order forever. Dysfunction is its function so no real problems get resolved. Their purpose is to maintain issues for further campaigns at infinitely increasing costs without limits.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (aXxgO)

66 I really don't care if the House never convenes. They're just gonna pass another giant omnibus CR once they get back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

67 He seems to have failed to impart little things like ethics, or charity, or diplomacy, or humility.

All of those tycoon guys, from JP Morgan to Zuckerburg... they're all sociopath. Yes, even Trump. Normal stable human beings do not have the drive, amorality, and focus to do what they do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (RsS92)

68
These are not traits of the psychopathic individual. You can't impart them. They will not stick.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:47 PM (K861k)

________

"Psychopathic" certainly fits Jobs. I think it's charming that he thought he could outwit Death on his own and lost.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (dxSpM)

69 I'm ambivalent about the "Freedom Caucus." They're a bunch of mouthy representatives who do like to stir shit. But they've got a point, in most cases, that resonates with MAGA.

I see this situation as a bit of a tantrum to get Trump's attention and get some concessions from him.

It's politics. And, reforming the GOP wasn't going to be without consequences. This is one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 30, 2024 04:50 PM (Q4IgG)

70 I really don't care if the House never convenes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM

But there are patients to be cured and sarcastic quips to be made.

Posted by: Gregory House, M.D. at December 30, 2024 04:51 PM (a3Q+t)

71 Alex the Chick, you are remembering correctly. That was the promise made by Johnson. So much for all those departments doing their jobs.

There is more wrong with Congress than Johnson.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 04:51 PM (XTmTf)

72 Steve Jobs was a world class douchebag.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (YIstU)

73
Normal stable human beings do not have the drive, amorality, and focus to do what they do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:49 PM (RsS92)

_________

I can accept that drive and focus are needed, but those aren't inconsistent with moral balance.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (dxSpM)

74 61 Trump and Johnson have been tied at the hip since mid-November...no one else has been working Trump's ear and vice versa.

So, if we want Trump's policies, it's him or no one right now. If he breaks with Trump, he'll probably lose his 2026 race, so Johnson is not gonna be the problem getting Trump's policies enacted...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 30, 2024 04:47 PM (exHjb)

This. Johnson won't shiv Trump. There's nothing in it for him to do so, at this point. Trump's the POTUS.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (O4euI)

75 I'll put it this way: I don't care what any of these scoundrels want... They can propose it. If Trump chooses otherwise, then the GOP better put a sock in it and do as commanded.

These congenital fuckups and obligate charlatans have completely failed by every single metric for many decades. There's no benefit of the doubt left to be given. They've all got a long time in the woodshed before I'll take anything they say seriously.

So until then, they need to follow Trump's lead. If any of my elected officials fail to do so - even once - I'm voting for his primary opponent and sitting out the general if it's not him.

I'm just over it. Who do these people think they are to tell anyone remotely competent or honest what to do?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (BI5O2)

76 Huh, maybe the freedom caucus knows a little more about the back alley bullshit than we do.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (gaKF9)

77 >>>But there are patients to be cured and sarcastic quips to be made.

Posted by: Gregory House, M.D.

>Is that a sarcastic quip in your trousers, or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 30, 2024 04:54 PM (rl6EB)

78 Since there appears to be no one else who is putting there name out there as an alternative candidate might as well vote for
Johnson . I don't see the Freedom Caucus putting forth a candidate, saying "get rid of Johnson and then mumble , mumble , SUCCESS"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 30, 2024 04:54 PM (MLa3L)

79 Reuters reporting China data break-in at US Treasury.
(Unclassified documents on the cloud involved?)

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, feather duster another at December 30, 2024 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

80 Here's my issue: there have to be consequences for breaking political deals. If it is true that Mike Johnson made agreements for support to be Speaker and then broke those agreements, then, yes, he deserves to be ousted.

I get where you are coming from, ace, what with agreeing with that view.

I just want to know how there can be consequences for breaking deals if the threat is always well you have no one else.
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Here's my issue with this issue: timing. There is a time for his punishment. It is not now. He can be deposed after election is certified.

Posted by: Don't cut off nose to spite face at December 30, 2024 04:54 PM (YnLVJ)

81 The Stupid Party strikes again. Someone needs to explain to these zealots what being primaried will mean to their soon to be over political careers.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 30, 2024 04:54 PM (qZdIZ)

82 I don't trust Johnson as far as I can throw his "religious" ass, but I'm sure Trump has made a deal not to make him look more like the pussy he is if he goes along.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 30, 2024 04:55 PM (gaKF9)

83 Steve Jobs was a world class douchebag.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (YIstU)
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There's a story out there about Apple engineers being stuck on a networking issue or some such and they brought in MS engineers to help them out. Evidently, either Jobs got wind of what was going on or he made an unexpected appearance. Anyway, the Apple engineers told the MS guys to hide so Steve wouldn't see them. Evidently he was on one of his rampages or some such. Don't remember all the details.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 04:55 PM (tT6L1)

84 Headline...

"TRUMP backs someone he said he would back"

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 30, 2024 04:55 PM (QB+5g)

85 72 Steve Jobs was a world class douchebag.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (YIstU)

Oh, yes he was. However, the people that worked closely with him said that he pushed them to do their best-ever work. Apple hasn't been the same since he died, even though they've made a lot more money.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 30, 2024 04:55 PM (O4euI)

86 There is more wrong with Congress than Johnson.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 04:51 PM (XTmTf)
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Truer words and all that.

Good afternoon, Ben!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 04:56 PM (tT6L1)

87 I can accept that drive and focus are needed, but those aren't inconsistent with moral balance.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:53 PM (dxSpM)

Not sure you have ever encountered a true psychopath. Sociopath is just another word for the same thing, since psychopath has a sinister association. Drive and focus can be found in anyone, but making the truly awful decisions that lead to that kind of "success" generally don't involve empathy, sympathy, or ethics. Most people cannot in good conscience shit on others to get ahead.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:56 PM (K861k)

88 >> The "heroes" of the Freedom Caucus are getting on my last nerve -- their refusal to vote for Mike Johnson as Speaker

I think you meant “frauds”. They remind me of the National Review crowd in the early days. Able to mouth every “conservative” platitude, ultimately believing in none of them, and nonetheless clueless as to how they could be achieved.

We all want to change the process and how we do things. Compromising on zero of your goals ain’t how you do it.

I saw last night that even Newt was musing we should reach out to Democrats in the 60 or so House seats that are purple districts, and then launch well funded primary efforts against every single Republican voting against the major objectives. That would be as Newt also mentioned, the priorities of an overwhelming amount of the voters.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2024 04:56 PM (spwXi)

89 There's a story out there about Apple engineers being stuck on a networking issue or some such and they brought in MS engineers to help them out. Evidently, either Jobs got wind of what was going on or he made an unexpected appearance. Anyway, the Apple engineers told the MS guys to hide so Steve wouldn't see them. Evidently he was on one of his rampages or some such. Don't remember all the details.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 04:55 PM (tT6L1)
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There are many such similar stories. A person undeserving of the accolades.

I worked for Gavin Newsom so I know sociopathology pretty well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2024 04:58 PM (YIstU)

90
Most people cannot in good conscience shit on others to get ahead.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:56 PM (K861k)

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Likely this explains why I'm a failure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:58 PM (dxSpM)

91 Hopefully, Trump now understands what a "veto" is.

Did he veto ANYTHING last time? Very annoying

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 04:59 PM (RsS92)

92
I'm just over it. Who do these people think they are to tell anyone remotely competent or honest what to do?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

=====/

They're brittle from decades and decades of legislation that shifted the actual lawmaking to the Executive Branch.

They are as useless as a pen-raised pheasant. They've forgotten how the negotiating process works.

This only gets fixed when they are forced to once again assume responsibility for . . . uh . . . legislating.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 30, 2024 04:59 PM (8AONa)

93 Likely this explains why I'm a failure.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 30, 2024 04:58 PM (dxSpM)

Well, if you are, then so am I. And my son has an official psychopathy diagnosis, so there's that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 05:00 PM (K861k)

94 >>>I worked for Gavin Newsom so I know sociopathology pretty well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho

>So is it true Gavin requisitions Brylcreem for delivery in 55 gallon drums?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 30, 2024 05:01 PM (rl6EB)

95 The so-called Freedom Caucus has collectively sunk every major Republican initiative since its inception. They are known by many in the party as the “No” Caucus. Go peruse their voting record. They’ve even voted against things that would bring about regular order, one of their alleged goals, on “principle”.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2024 05:02 PM (spwXi)

96 I can accept that drive and focus are needed, but those aren't inconsistent with moral balance.

Yeah but there's focus and then there's ... focus. Like the difference between a normal person and Rain Man. The level of drive and focus these guys have is unmarred by self doubt, moral compunction, and ordinary human hesitation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 05:03 PM (RsS92)

97 A rant. All this talk of "primary them" is bullshit. The averages Congressional district represents roughly 750,000 people. Do you realize how many people you have to reach to make that happen? Money is important but if there are not foot soldiers out there doing the legwork, you ain't primarying anybody.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:03 PM (XTmTf)

98 "A Good Christian, like Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: illiniwek
Who are you to criticize the faith of another?"

By their fruits you shall know them. But I'm really questioning the "good religious man" as an actual qualification for the job.

An actual "fully inspired" Christian imo, would be much stronger than Johnson seems to be, and wouldn't roll over for Evil Schumer's colossal spending bill. I don't expect him to be casting out demons while in session, but that would be entertaining. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2024 05:03 PM (Cus5s)

99 But there are patients to be cured and sarcastic quips to be made.
Posted by: Gregory House, M.D.
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Alexandria 'Alex' Robinson: No, you're wrong. I'm a girl [stands up and pulls off her gown]

Look at me! How could you say I'm not a girl? See? They're all looking at me. I'm beautiful!

Dr. Gregory House: Anger. It's just the cancer talking. Put your clothes back on. I'm going to cut your balls off. Then you'll be fine.

"Skin Deep"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0606039/

Posted by: the Mayo Clinic at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (hovnC)

100 Note to the "heroes" of the Freedom Caucus: If you block Trump from being sworn in as President on January 20th at precisely 12 o'clock noon sharp, we are coming for you.

Say Hello to President Chuck Grassley.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (uxCna)

101 What else can he do for now?

Government is only funded through March 14, setting up another spending showdown when Trump gets in.

Republicans control both the Senate and House come January, but the party will have slim margins in both chambers.

One battle after another are lining up.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, feather duster another at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (NFX2v)

102 If the House can't find a Speaker in time to get the election certified, President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance cannot take office

Johnson's worthiness aside, this doesn't sound true. Why wouldn't the Speaker Pro Tem fill in?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (IG4Id)

103 And BTW, Massie is the biggest fraud of all. I have no idea why he’s even in Congress. They guy wakes up every day trying to figure out a way to get to “no”.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (spwXi)

104 so we can all admire their Purity

He's got a purity mouth for a boy.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (EoLWc)

105 I worked for Gavin Newsom so I know sociopathology pretty well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 30, 2024 04:58 PM (YIstU)
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A very close friend of mine of longstanding has recently moved from right to left, and refers to Newsom as the "Honorable Gavin Newsom" and hopes he will be the next President. And no, not president of an HOA, either.

I get queasy just typing that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

106 "And my son has an official psychopathy diagnosis, so there's that."

So does mine but I just thought he took after his mother.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (QB+5g)

107 A very close friend of mine of longstanding has recently moved from right to left, and refers to Newsom as the "Honorable Gavin Newsom" and hopes he will be the next President. And no, not president of an HOA, either.

I get queasy just typing that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:04 PM (YqDXo)
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If someone moves from right to left, one has to question whether or not they were truly right to begin with.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 05:06 PM (tT6L1)

108 By their fruits you shall know them.
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Leave Buttigieg out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:06 PM (YqDXo)

109 Wasn't it the worthless, backstabbing failures at the Freedom Caucus who... successfully fought to stop the GOPe and got Johnson in the speaker position to begin with? I mean they must have failed somehow in the process. Right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 05:07 PM (RsS92)

110 Nobody has ever moved right to left, whoever says so is lying to everybody.

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:07 PM (7neCS)

111 Johnson is better than nothing.

Posted by: torabora at December 30, 2024 05:08 PM (rq6pn)

112 If someone moves from right to left, one has to question whether or not they were truly right to begin with.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 05:06 PM (tT6L1)
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Fair point, but I think he was. He's just been reading the LAT religiously for 50 years, has a leftist harpy for a wife, and serves on nanny-state boards to which he was appointed by the "Honorable" Gavin Newsom.

I think the combined effect of those wore him down.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:08 PM (YqDXo)

113 535 elected assholes have brought us to 37Trillion in debt. The number primaried I can probably count on the fingers and toes I have.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:08 PM (XTmTf)

114 The so-called Freedom Caucus has collectively sunk every major Republican initiative since its inception.

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I have no problem with them thwarting the GOP. I hate them less than the rest of the GOP.

But I still hate them. So if it's them vs. Trump, I'm siding with Trump every time.

They've earned nothing. None of them are worthy of anything besides being bootlicks and rubber stamps for an actual leader.

Or being milled into animal feed. That would work as an alternative if they can't handle the simple task of saying "yes, sir" reflexively.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 30, 2024 05:09 PM (BI5O2)

115 Nobody has ever moved right to left, whoever says so is lying to everybody.

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:07 PM (7neCS)
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He doesn't say it in so many words, but he is now a registered Democrat, so ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:09 PM (YqDXo)

116 Let's not futz around with the presidency we already won. That’s how you get another Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2024 05:10 PM (LHPAg)

117 If someone moves from right to left, one has to question whether or not they were truly right to begin with.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 30, 2024 05:06 PM (tT6L1)

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There must be a woman involved. I once went to an interpretive dance recital with a date. It wasn't my idea.

Posted by: Orson at December 30, 2024 05:11 PM (dIske)

118 He doesn't say it in so many words, but he is now a registered Democrat, so

He has to have been lying before then. Who says I am tired of this logic, reason bs, I am going to emote and embrace the stupid?

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:11 PM (7neCS)

119 Johnson is better than nothing

What is things some guys in prison say?

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:12 PM (7neCS)

120 There must be a woman involved. I once went to an interpretive dance recital with a date. It wasn't my idea.

Posted by: Orson at December 30, 2024 05:11 PM (dIske)
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His wife reminds me for all the world of Bea Arthur. /shudder

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2024 05:13 PM (YqDXo)

121 "Money is important but if there are not foot soldiers out there doing the legwork, you ain't primarying anybody."

Rep Max Frost was a total loser nobody who never had a real job and lived with his parents, got elected after Sam Bankfraud dumped a million dollars into his campaign.

Someone will do the dirty work if they get paid.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 30, 2024 05:13 PM (QB+5g)

122 Maybe Hakeem Jeffries can certify Trump?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2024 05:14 PM (63Dwl)

123 Amen, Ace.

They had their moment in the sun and now it's time to step out.

Posted by: PJ at December 30, 2024 05:14 PM (RRCAT)

124 It is the stupid that never stops

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:15 PM (7neCS)

125 how about we discuss the best of Jimmuh! remember even/odd?

it blew mind when gas shot up from 39 cents to 60 cents!!!

Posted by: DanMan at December 30, 2024 05:15 PM (8uzBS)

126 Most people cannot in good conscience shit on others to get ahead.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2024 04:56 PM (K861k)

I think you mean most people outside of DC.

Posted by: Gref at December 30, 2024 05:15 PM (aBgBM)

127 pawn, I have a distinct difference between being elected and being primaried.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:16 PM (XTmTf)

128 97 A rant. All this talk of "primary them" is bullshit. The averages Congressional district represents roughly 750,000 people. Do you realize how many people you have to reach to make that happen? Money is important but if there are not foot soldiers out there doing the legwork, you ain't primarying anybody.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:03 PM (XTmTf)

I hear we know someone VERY adept at organizing and doing this...he managed a whole state in a few months, so a district or 2 to make examples should not be a problem...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 30, 2024 05:16 PM (exHjb)

129 That’s how you get another Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

I'd vote for him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 05:17 PM (RsS92)

130 Interpretive dance has occurred on Saturday night at the Texas MoMe.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 30, 2024 05:17 PM (a3Q+t)

131 Good things about Carter:

I mentioned earlier that Carter ended development of the neutron bomb. If ever there was a cold war nightmare monster, that was it.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 30, 2024 05:18 PM (QB+5g)

132 The "Freedom Caucus" is a lot like a petulant child.

I still contend that they're a necessary evil to reform the GOP. If you use the "driving off a cliff" analogy with the GOP these clowns are Thelma and Louise. They are apparently not pliable. Good.

A necessary evil. Reforming the GOP will require many sacrifices over time. This is one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 30, 2024 05:19 PM (Q4IgG)

133 Like I've said, Trump needs to keep his campaign and fundraising apparatus spun all the way up, and keep it dangling like the sword of Damocles over any little cuckling who gets mouthy. Money and boots on the ground, to end the career of any GOP resister.

Maybe change the name to Primary Weapon PAC, or some such.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 30, 2024 05:19 PM (BI5O2)

134 >>>Who says I am tired of this logic, reason bs, I am going to emote and embrace the stupid?

Posted by: N

>Please vote for me in my district. We're counting on you!

Pelosi/Newsom 2028!

Posted by: Dr. Granny Rictus McBotoxImplants at December 30, 2024 05:19 PM (rl6EB)

135 Trump is always there to back the GOPe leaders. Maybe during his third term he will figure out that they are a problem.

Then again. the GOPe isn't fiscally or socially conservative and neither is Trump. Perhaps he share more in common with them then he does with the Freedom Caucus (actual) Republicans.

Posted by: eddie at December 30, 2024 05:19 PM (4+Tgo)

136 The Jimmuh years...when all male middle eastern refugees declared they were 'Persians'.

Posted by: DanMan at December 30, 2024 05:19 PM (8uzBS)

137 Say Hello to President Chuck Grassley.

I'd like a corn burger, corn fries, and a corn syrup shake, please. Oh, and some corn bread.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2024 05:20 PM (AMyEQ)

138 Nova Local, there aren't that many Presslers out there. Again I don't conflate getting them elected with getting them out of office.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (XTmTf)

139 The so-called Freedom Caucus has collectively sunk every major Republican initiative since its inception. They are known by many in the party as the “No” Caucus.

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Good. I don’t vote Republican to be “governed” by dimwit cretins like Mike Johnson. I don’t want Democrat Lite, which is all the GOPe has ever offered.

I vote Republican to throw sand in the gears of our monstrous communist Federal government. That is all.

Posted by: Nuke the Hippies! at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (h7lhS)

140 Perhaps he share more in common with them then he does with the Freedom Caucus (actual) Republicans.

He does, but he's been driven right by the idiots on the left who blew their chances. However, he does seem to genuinely love and favor America and Americans while they seem only to care for the bottom line and the Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (RsS92)

141 Move on good people, move on.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, feather duster another at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (NFX2v)

142 Iowa is the ghetto of the farmland states

Posted by: N at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (7neCS)

143 138 Nova Local, there aren't that many Presslers out there. Again I don't conflate getting them elected with getting them out of office.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2024 05:21 PM (XTmTf)

It's easy to make examples in House primaries (hi Cantor) - you just need to be committed to doing so...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 30, 2024 05:22 PM (exHjb)

144 >>I have no problem with them thwarting the GOP. I hate them less than the rest of the GOP.

The idea is to take the party back. You do that by getting Congress to do their damn jobs. We have a lot of legislation to pass. It will pass with or without the Fraud Caucus. They could be on board and it could be a lot better. That’s because t would be negotiated within the caucus. But these assholes constantly make unreasonable demands and expect everyone else to bend to their stupidity.

I’m sick of it and they are one of the main reasons the GOP sucks. People talk about Republicans not having any loyalty. Yet here is this group of jackasses making ridiculous demand and then pulling the football when the caucus agrees to some of them.

F them. You want to focus your anger? Foxy it on people like these who have held up every major decent thing we wanted to do or forced us to water down others which could have been resounding victories with their votes.

As one of the people in my command always says, fit in or F off.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 30, 2024 05:22 PM (HDGM5)

145 BH,

He was gifted the money before the primary. Handily defeated at least one well qualified candidate that was leading in the polls prior. No one took this loud mouth seriously until he was swimming in cash.

It was in a majority Dem district.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 30, 2024 05:22 PM (QB+5g)

146 Nood. Twilight of the Left...

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, feather duster another at December 30, 2024 05:23 PM (NFX2v)

147 I still contend that they're a necessary evil to reform the GOP. If you use the "driving off a cliff" analogy with the GOP these clowns are Thelma and Louise. They are apparently not pliable. Good.

Yeah we need at least someone in there going "eh, not so much" to the GOPe who has no restraint except that which most adheres to principles of freedom and the constitution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2024 05:23 PM (RsS92)

148 . . . their refusal to vote for Mike Johnson as Speaker . . . means that Trump and Vance will not be able to take the offices of president and vice president.

I think this theory is incorrect. The Constitution requires Congress to certify the Electoral College vote, but there's nothing in the Constitution about the House Speaker needing to preside or otherwise be involved. To the extent a presiding officer is required, have the Clerk preside as when the Speaker is being elected. The Constitution trumps House rules - whatever they are. (Doesn't the Constitution provide for the Vice-President to preside over the joint session certifying the vote?)

Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at December 30, 2024 05:25 PM (sc558)

149 offensock

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 30, 2024 05:29 PM (hovnC)

150 Nood?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at December 30, 2024 05:37 PM (wBaIH)

151 But not this time, Ace. Tell me what that weasel Johnson has done to support anything MAGA anything other than make appearances where he seems obviously out of place. I want Trump and Vance, but a short-term Grassley wouldn't be bad. At some point, you have to draw the line.

Posted by: Normally approving at December 30, 2024 05:51 PM (Vak4X)

152 Ok, EVERYONE needs to understand that JOB #1 for the new House is to elect a SPEAKER!

NOTHING ELSE can be done in the House UNTIL a new Speaker is elected!

That INCLUDES the CERTIFICATION of the ELECTORAL RESULTS that Trump is the new President.

Jeezus, we REALLY need to start teaching Civics and Government in HS again.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 30, 2024 06:19 PM (e/Osv)

153 I'm on the FC side here. The GOP House Leadership and these CR's they've 'negotiated' are a disgrace. The FC members I've heard that have actually been interviewed about this unsustainable spending are pretty resonable - they are looking for no new spending, or offsets to any new/'emergency' spending. Trump has savaged the FC and they've been more loyal to him than most of the GOP. On spending, I think they're trying to save Trump from himself. The "Moderate/Responsible" GOP reps are the problem here.

We're out of runway and options- the budget needs to get slashed and the FC aresome of the only people in that damned town tapping the brakes.

Posted by: WICon at December 30, 2024 06:28 PM (7X+C1)

154 The House Freedom Caucus - Losing everything on principles.
Have any of these jackholes actually passed anything of consequence into law that helps the "Right"?

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at December 30, 2024 06:48 PM (xaNfJ)

155 Knock off the bloviating about the Freedom Caucus, Ace. Their differences with Johnson are principled, and rooted in the Proven FACT that Johnson is a RINO squish and a backstabbing liar.

I also suggest you read the Constitution before blubbering about the necessity of a Speaker to certify the election. The House is empowered to make rules for this scenario. Just because there's always been a Speaker before certification doesn't mean there MUST be one. In fact, if Johnson weren't such a backstabbing RINO , he'd be pushing such rules through the House now - but it's in his ambition's interest to do nothing instead.

Posted by: Misanthropic at December 30, 2024 07:09 PM (H1der)

156 "Ok, EVERYONE needs to understand that JOB #1 for the new House is to elect a SPEAKER!

NOTHING ELSE can be done in the House UNTIL a new Speaker is elected!

That INCLUDES the CERTIFICATION of the ELECTORAL RESULTS that Trump is the new President."

WRONG on Every Single Count. Sign up for one of those civics lessons you think others need to take.

Posted by: Misanthropic at December 30, 2024 07:12 PM (H1der)

157 Lesson from surgery: perfect is the enemy of good.

Freedom caucus wants a perfect speaker from their perspective, and they aint gonna get it. Take the imperfect one, and carefully incentivize the wrong person to do the right thing.

Posted by: PoorYorick at December 30, 2024 08:14 PM (eClUY)

158 If it really is that bad, then the FC can tell the Uniparty to jump, and how high. Seems a good plan.

Posted by: Eric2 at December 30, 2024 08:23 PM (q7Vou)

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