THE MORNING RANT: EV Fire in Parking Garage Causes Terrifying Nighttime Rescues at a Chattanooga, TN Apartment Building

As cool as the “new urban” lifestyle sounds, with dining and entertainment options within blocks of your condo/loft, there have always been negatives. These include the hassle factor of multi-story apartment living, shared walls, street noise, etc. There’s now a new negative – the risk of a runaway thermal fire in the parking garage underneath the building you live in.

Some residents of an apartment building in a hip Chattanooga neighborhood had a terrifying night recently when an electric vehicle parked in the building’s garage spontaneously erupted in flames during the wee hours of the night.

“Electric vehicle started major apartment fire in Chattanooga” [WTVC – 12/17/2024]

Five people were hospitalized.

Per the Chattanooga Fire Department, “Residents were giving important information to the police, and officers were relaying those details to the crews conducting searches and making rescues. You can also see and hear the compassion the first responders have on the scene as they help people fleeing their smoke-filled homes in the middle of the night.”

Hook and ladder units had to be employed by the fire department to rescue some residents.

Heavy smoke made its way into the building where some residents needed assistance to escape. Some residents had to evacuate by climbing down an aerial ladder from multiple stories up. Residents expressed their gratitude for the firefighters response.

Hook and Ladder - EV Fire - Chattanooga.JPG

Obviously, the fire department’s primary concern was rescuing residents before they succumbed to the smoke that had engulfed the building. But there was also a raging inferno down below in the garage, as the burning EV began to ignite adjacent vehicles.

"There were multiple vehicles on fire," said Lindsey Rogers with the Chattanooga Fire Department. "The smoke from the vehicle fires made its way throughout the building, so we had half of our crews in the sub-level garage working to extinguish those car fires. We had the other half of our crews working to do multiple rescues."

The electric vehicle that started the fire was determined to be a Kia EV. Following the awful night that the residents endured, almost all of them soon learned that their cars had been damaged too.

Two other vehicles next to the EV burned, and most of the cars in the garage suffered heat damage, in the early morning hours of November 22nd. Fire officials identified the car that caught fire as a Kia.

The greatest peril in a multi-family building is fire. That risk has now been compounded by the fact that a trendy EV parked in an apartment’s garage might spontaneously erupt into an unextinguishable inferno at any time.

I know that I will be receiving the usual emails reminding me that there are more fires involving gasoline-powered (“ICE” cars than from EVs. Of course there are, because there are so many more ICE cars on the road than EVs, and when ICE cars get in wrecks, the gasoline sometimes combusts.

But ICE cars just don’t spontaneously burst into flames like EVs do. There is essentially no risk that a parked ICE car in a garage will burst into flames, while there is a very real, greater-than-zero risk that an EV will spontaneously combust, and cause tremendous damage to everything around it. And above it.

For safety reasons and for insurance purposes, buildings with covered parking garages really need to start considering a ban on EVs.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 20, 2024 11:00 AM (nXhwP)

2 and now to fetch the otters

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 20, 2024 11:00 AM (nXhwP)

3 Seems like only in the previous thread we were discussing EVs.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:00 AM (ExV1e)

4 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)

5 corgis called

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 20, 2024 11:01 AM (nXhwP)

6 Given the theme of the previous comments, this is...awkward.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 20, 2024 11:01 AM (PiwSw)

7 3 out the top 5

Call me joan of arc, i'm on fire...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 20, 2024 11:01 AM (nXhwP)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

9 I just came to see if America has been betrayed yet this morning.

Or is it just a continuous betrayal?

Posted by: Stateless at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (jvJvP)

10 This one goes out to Piper's neighbor and they're brand new Tesla!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

11 Piper, do not show this to your neighbors!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (kgE5c)

12 Is the pic of one of those ridiculous Ford Lightning trucks???? Ahahaha….

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (PCK5/)

13 I hope Piper's neighbor's wife doesn't read this.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (MZXFo)

14 Given the theme of the previous comments, this is...awkward.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 20, 2024

***
Or, you know, apropos.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (J2vNu)

15 I feel targeted.

Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:02 AM (e8mjv)

16 EV’s are just not ready for primetime, maybe… they need to make a Flaming Blowtorch model…

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (PCK5/)

17 Eliminate personal transportation altogether, problem solved!

Posted by: davidt at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (i0F8b)

18 Always wanted to visit Chattanooga.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (LxER7)

19 Most ICE vehicle fires are accidents or "electrical malfunction" rarely just parked.

Posted by: Craig Austin at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (MTFlv)

20 Their.....I will learn English if it cills me. C-I-L-L my landlord.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

21 Notice that the EV shills have disappeared lately from AOS. Wonder why that is.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (ctrM5)

22 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (xYBK4)

23 Its a good thing that crazy Arabs don't drive EVs. Amirite?

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (jFCkp)

24 Is this where I share that I live in a little historic district and I share a driveway with my neighbor? It could be fantastic as we have the pool chemicals in our little storage thingy attached to the carport.

Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (e8mjv)

25 Notice that the EV shills have disappeared lately from AOS. Wonder why that is.
Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (ctrM5)

Joe Xiden hardest hit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

26 UPDATE: House GOP is splitting the spending bill into smaller pieces, allowing each piece to pass/fail individually - Punchbowl

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Well, positive development in terms of process, methinks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

27 18 Take the train. Dinner in the diner, nothing could be finer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (gm9Sb)

28 23 Its a good thing that crazy Arabs don't drive EVs. Amirite?
Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (jFCkp)

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Saudis drive Audis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJDuZIcQ34

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

29 21 Notice that the EV shills have disappeared lately from AOS. Wonder why that is.
Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (ctrM5)

Weird… just up in smoke..

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (PCK5/)

30 My cousin runs a shop. He can buff that right out.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (+4yJ5)

31 I like stories with happy endings

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2024 11:06 AM (kUr/o)

32 20 Their.....I will learn English if it cills me. C-I-L-L my landlord.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

Watchdog barking. Do he bite?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 20, 2024 11:06 AM (PiwSw)

33 It could be fantastic as we have the pool chemicals in our little storage thingy attached to the carport.

Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (e8mjv)

ever mixed powdered chlorine with motor oil?....don't!

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (Yj6Os)

34 But the Erf was saved!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl)

35 I like my SmartCar. Very roomy.

Posted by: Robert Reich at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (PiwSw)

36 Appropriate song from 1975:

https://tinyurl.com/nha9ztpt

(There is also an instrumental:

https://tinyurl.com/mu2p46bd)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (J2vNu)

37 17 Eliminate personal transportation altogether, problem solved!

Which is an argument they like to make.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (+4yJ5)

38 I see homeowner's insurance riders for those with EV's and a charging station at home.

Expensive riders.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (Q4IgG)

39 34 But the Erf was saved!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl)

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*burps in the form of a volcanic eruption*
-Erf

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

40 Some fellow residents in my building have taken to storing their electric scooters in their unit. I can't wait for one of those batteries to spontaneously catch fire some night.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (oCS0o)

41 Always wanted to visit Chattanooga.

The aquarium is awesome. Don't recall much else from a visit many years ago.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

42 41 Always wanted to visit Chattanooga.

The aquarium is awesome. Don't recall much else from a visit many years ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

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Lookout Mountain is well worth the trip.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:09 AM (GBKbO)

43 Imma falling in love with Roadside Rescues. It might cut into my Oak Island time. I've noticed some of the rescues are merely dropping a working engine, transmission into a 60s hulk, but I like it.

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:09 AM (jFCkp)

44 Apartments.

Come for the ability to hear every noise on your floor.

Stay for the built-in surprise gas chamber.

Posted by: sifty boones at December 20, 2024 11:09 AM (ceGpQ)

45 The aquarium is awesome. Don't recall much else from a visit many years ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

Oh, I'd mostly want to visit the battle sites.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (LxER7)

46 Saw my first cyber truck in a used car lot this morning. Interesting. House in the neighborhood has gone all in on Tesla's. Three Tesla sedans and a cyber truck. I look forward to a house bbq. Already had an ev fire in the neighborhood, banking on a second one, soon.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (TN5A0)

47 Joe Xiden hardest hit.
Posted by: Sponge
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There was also that odd Mr. Jacks or something like that who would pop up from time to time.

Hope you and your wife are doing well and that your family has a peaceful Christmas full of joy.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (ctrM5)

48 UPDATE: House GOP is splitting the spending bill into smaller pieces, allowing each piece to pass/fail individually - Punchbowl

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I wonder how the pay raise for X-treme Hakeem slice will do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)

49
ever mixed powdered chlorine with motor oil?....don't!
Posted by: BignJames

Nope! We actually don’t have a lot of chlorine because we have a copper ionizer and don’t need much.

Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (e8mjv)

50 I believe that even Elon has said that there is not enough lithium in the world to give everybody an electric car battery.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (krQz2)

51 I drive a vintage MG Midget. Hasn't burst into flame, but sometimes it won't start.

Posted by: George Snaffalopogous at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (G5+As)

52 41 Always wanted to visit Chattanooga.

The aquarium is awesome. Don't recall much else from a visit many years ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

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Lookout Mountain is well worth the trip.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You forgot ROCK CITY!!!!!

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

53 Saudis drive Audis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJDuZIcQ34
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

Expected Remy. Was not disappoint.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (ExV1e)

54 53 Expected Remy. Was not disappoint.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (ExV1e)

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What's with all the dudes in brown flipflops!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (GBKbO)

55 Lookout Mountain is well worth the trip.

See Rock City. 500 barn signs can't be wrong.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (/y8xj)

56 ever mixed powdered chlorine with motor oil?....don't!
Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (Yj6Os

What concoction is created by that?

Posted by: Cypress Hill at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (/6GbT)

57
Hope you and your wife are doing well and that your family has a peaceful Christmas full of joy.
Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:10 AM (ctrM5)

She's having a rough go this week. She was supposed to do chemo yesterday, but her white count was too low. She's got sniffles and a light cough currently, which becomes a bit scary with her being immunocompromised like that. She's incredibly tired.

But I appreciate your kind thoughts.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

58 @38 insurance riders for those with EV's

You'd think so, wouldn't you? It usually comes up only in health insurance discussion, but -- there is a lot of internal politics with insurance. If something is officially blessed, like certain personal practices, or dangerous but well-intentioned tech revolutions, magically the risk will be spread across everyone in the market. Only those innovations unliked by The Committee result in special extra charges just for the practitioners.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (zdLoL)

59 I see multi family housing (apartments/condo), townhouses, houses on city blocks the are like 3 feet apart and think....
"That's what Hell looks like.".

No thank you! I'll stick to my thirty acres of rural farm land and "learn" to live without Thai food at three AM.

psst... I don't give a fuck about Thai food and if I'm awake at 3 am, it's either because I had to pee or Hubbymayhem woke me up.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (4XwPj)

60 Expected Remy. Was not disappoint.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024

***
The name "Remy" now always makes me think of Olivia Wilde as Remy Hadley, "Thirteen" on House.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (J2vNu)

61 Lithium batteries are inherently unstable. When they break down (collision, corrosion, or just wearing out) the fire that can result cannot be quenched until the fuel is all consumed. And the smoke is poisonous. They are a fire hazard and should not be used in vehicles that might get in a collision. They even go up in spontaneous combustion while parked in a garage!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (sagpo)

62 I drive a vintage MG Midget. Hasn't burst into flame, but sometimes it won't start.

Posted by: George Snaffalopogous at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (G5+As)

Dual Stromberg carbs...they the shizz!

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (Yj6Os)

63
What's with all the dudes in brown flipflops!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (GBKbO)

SLOWLY I turn........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

64 Dual Stromberg carbs...they the shizz!
Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM (Yj6Os)

Unless you have to repair / retune them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

65 50 I believe that even Elon has said that there is not enough lithium in the world to give everybody an electric car battery.
Posted by: Axeman
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He would keep closer tabs on that for obvious reasons than I do.

But making batteries with lithium ingredients is not the only way to make them. Part of the biggest problem, I understand with using other means is that they weigh more which obviously affects mobile use.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (ctrM5)

66 State and national forests should also ban EV's.
They should not be allowed near any stand of forest, especially in summer.

That's a lot of resources , wildlife and people threatened.

Posted by: Derak at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (fm8gk)

67 Every leftard statistic is a lie. Every one.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (j+LsA)

68 Expected Remy. Was not disappoint.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024

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"I Can't Dance, She Can't Vote" is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (krQz2)

69 Saudis drive Audis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJDuZIcQ34
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You've opened a window to your soul to me, TJM. I'm am grateful.

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (jFCkp)

70 She's having a rough go this week. She was supposed to do chemo yesterday, but her white count was too low. She's got sniffles and a light cough currently, which becomes a bit scary with her being immunocompromised like that. She's incredibly tired.

But I appreciate your kind thoughts.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

She is such a bright light, I am praying for her.

Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (e8mjv)

71 It's absolutely incredible that the same busybody fascists who insist on banning or regulating any activity even remotely dangerous, such as campfires and grills and even gas ovens, are obsessively pushing fireball-deathtrap EVs on us.

Yea know, it's almost all like these regulations in the name of "health and safety" are nothing more than cover for more sinister motivations.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)

72 The Institute for Energy Research published a white paper in December of this year outlining the myths and follies concerning EVs. If the Left, beginning with California and the 11 supporting states, are able to ban ICE and Hybrid vehicles we are headed into what is fairly characterized as a complete shitshow.

When Government Chooses Your Car
"This report provides a comprehensive analysis of the current landscape of electric vehicles (EVs) within the U.S. motor vehicle market, emphasizing the challenges and complexities surrounding a forced transition towards electrifying our transportation system."

https://is.gd/N5c1Uh

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (e+6P0)

73 Take the choo choo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (63Dwl)

74 ---
"I Can't Dance, She Can't Vote" is one of my favorites.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:14 AM (krQz2)

I've been seeing a lot of ACLU and SLPC ads on teevee declaring that voting rights are being stripped away everywhere and we must ACT to stop the oppression.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

75 Oops - I used the wrong tag.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (e+6P0)

76 What concoction is created by that?

Posted by: Cypress Hill at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (/6GbT)

fire....and chlorine gas

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (Yj6Os)

77 She is such a bright light, I am praying for her.
Posted by: Piper at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (e8mjv)

Thank you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

78 Condos and hotels in Sunny Isles Beach, Surfside, Miami Beach and Bal Harbour are at risk.. Miami’s barrier islands are home to many tall luxury buildings .. about three dozen are sinking. Thirty-five luxury condos and hotels across Florida's Sunny Isles Beach, Surfside, Miami Beach and Bal Harbour have faced subsidence in the past handful of years.. ... The sinking of the high-rises amounted to 2-8 centimeters over a multiyear span running 2016 through 2023.

.. I thought they told us the ocean would rise, not have the building sink

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (RHGPo)

79 Saudis drive Audis.

Gonna admit that since I saw that the first time, years ago, that is how I pronounce Audi.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

80 62 I drive a vintage MG Midget. Hasn't burst into flame, but sometimes it won't start.
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Always park it on a hill.

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:17 AM (jFCkp)

81 ...For safety reasons and for insurance purposes, buildings with covered parking garages really need to start considering a ban on EVs...

One wonders how long it will be, before the Insurance companie(s) for (the building) will not allow/insure buildings that have EVs parked below...

Posted by: PETE at December 20, 2024 11:17 AM (0Ctrb)

82 She's having a rough go this week. She was supposed to do chemo yesterday, but her white count was too low. She's got sniffles and a light cough currently, which becomes a bit scary with her being immunocompromised like that. She's incredibly tired.

But I appreciate your kind thoughts.
Posted by: Sponge
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Chemo is a tough regimen and I am sure that you and your family's support and love makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:17 AM (ctrM5)

83 The legacy media has lost all ability to influence the public. With Trump's win, a concerted effort to censor alternative media and citizen journalists will intensify.

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Kill Bill: MSNBC’s Jen Psaki Laments ‘Threat’ Voters Pose to Unresponsive Elected Officials

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Damn voters getting uppity!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (L/fGl)

84 I've been seeing a lot of ACLU and SLPC ads on teevee declaring that voting rights are being stripped away everywhere and we must ACT to stop the oppression.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)
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They are probably talking about the attempt to "take the vote away" from illegal aliens in the states that gave them a vote in local elections.

That's what I would wager.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (krQz2)

85 I drive a vintage MG Midget. Hasn't burst into flame, but sometimes it won't start.

They're called MG Little People! -- Karen

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (ExV1e)

86 83 Kill Bill: MSNBC’s Jen Psaki Laments ‘Threat’ Voters Pose to Unresponsive Elected Officials

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Damn voters getting uppity!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (L/fGl)

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"The politicians should rule the people."
-progressivism

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (GBKbO)

87 Chemo is a tough regimen and I am sure that you and your family's support and love makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:17 AM (ctrM5)

We're certainly trying. Anything I can do to make her giggle......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

88 76 What concoction is created by that?

Posted by: Cypress Hill at December 20, 2024 11:12 AM (/6GbT)

fire....and chlorine gas
Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:16 AM (Yj6Os

Chlorine reacts with oil and it combusts? Door prize black chlorine gas of doom? Fun

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (/6GbT)

89 The govt won't do anything about it, but the insurance industry sure will. They don't like flames.

And E-bikes are bad too. Their fires have killed people. https://tinyurl.com/5h7t2pjr

Posted by: PJ at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (RRCAT)

90 President Joe Biden has announced he will travel to Italy in January to meet with Pope Francis, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, and Italian President Sergio Mattarella. The White House said Biden spoke with Pope Francis by phone on Thursday, during which he “graciously accepted His Holiness Pope Francis’s invitation to visit the Vatican next month.” Pope Francis will receive Biden, only the second Catholic to serve as U.S. president, in the Vatican on January 10 to “discuss efforts to advance peace around the world,” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement.

.. these talks ought to be really productive ... NOT

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

91 Damn voters getting uppity!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (L/fGl)
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Even the black ones?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:19 AM (krQz2)

92 Anything I can do to make her giggle......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

Is she ticklish?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:19 AM (ExV1e)

93
Is she ticklish?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:19 AM (ExV1e)

Anything but that. She HATES being tickled.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

94 Single family dwelling

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 20, 2024 11:20 AM (QSrLX)

95 Yes. But ICE cars contribute to global warming.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

96 Yes. But ICE cars contribute to global warming.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

And so would all the diesel vehicles used to rape the earth to harvest the lithium required for the batteries.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

97 a hip Chattanooga neighborhood

words I never thought I'd see strung together in that order

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:22 AM (dCxaZ)

98 Yea know, it's almost all like these regulations in the name of "health and safety" are nothing more than cover for more sinister motivations.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Of course they are. Some of the assholes pushing this are in it for financial gain while pseudo aristocrats do it to punish the plebes and put them in their place. Government creeps are in it for bigger budgets and more power to do the same.

And Media are paid propagandists for the whole shebang.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (ctrM5)

99 Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?

Posted by: Can't Trust A Fart at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (G5+As)

100 99 Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?
Posted by: Can't Trust A Fart at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (G5+As)

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Taking off his pants first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

101 Chlorine reacts with oil and it combusts? Door prize black chlorine gas of doom? Fun
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (/6GbT)

There were some fatalities a decade or so back when someone's jug of pool chlorine got broken and the jug of transmission fluid leaked into it in the back of a car.
I have been told it is not something that happens every time it gets mixed, but it will happen

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (D7oie)

102 "The White House said Biden spoke with Pope Francis by phone on Thursday, during which he “graciously accepted His Holiness Pope Francis’s invitation to visit the Vatican next month.” Pope Francis will receive Biden, only the second Catholic to serve as U.S. president, in the Vatican on January 10 to “discuss efforts to advance peace around the world,” press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said in a statement"

Since when is Bidet and Jorge Roman Catholic. Both are effing evil POSs, and need to spend eternity in that hot place.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (TN5A0)

103 during which he “graciously accepted His Holiness Pope Francis’s invitation to visit the Vatican next month.”

oh no

the Pope must have a poopy pants fetish

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (dCxaZ)

104 Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?
Posted by: Can't Trust A Fart at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (G5+As)

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Taking off his pants first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

Ah.....a classic.

https://youtu.be/A1veW1s24Xo

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

105 21
‘ Notice that the EV shills have disappeared lately from AOS. Wonder why that is.’

My understanding is that they were banned.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (jbnUc)

106 But ICE cars contribute to global warming.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

Not that it's relevant but, imagine all the carbon put into the atmosphere from the fire started by that EV.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

107 "The politicians should rule the people."
-progressivism
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:18 AM (GBKbO)
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People have become so used to the idea of "ideology" being something that every politics has. It's not though.

Ideology is actually a theory on how people should be governed, almost always academic, and almost always opposing whatever pragmatic opposition that may arise from the implementation of that agenda.

If you have an ideology, that's what's important, meeting the goals of the theory. Not responding to the pushback of the people.

Marxism is an ideology, Fascism is an ideology, Self-rule is not. Self-rule is an idea of the purpose of government, and doesn't demand any outcome, necessarily.

So, progression, along a theory will always try to grab power to execute that agenda, and that means any popular opposition to that agenda, must be made illegitimate somehow.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:25 AM (krQz2)

108 Not that it's relevant but, imagine all the carbon put into the atmosphere from the fire started by that EV.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

And mix in the fact they don't have a solution for actually putting the fire out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

109 Federal Murder Charges Filed Against Luigi Mangione, Signaling No Faith in Alvin Bragg.

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Braxton Bragg > Alvin Bragg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

110 97 a hip Chattanooga neighborhood

words I never thought I'd see strung together in that order
Posted by: kallisto
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Chattanooga used to be a distribution point and industrial center due to its river and its rail network access.

When the old smog producing industries went under, the city did not do well at first and only gradually recovered by shifting to lifestyle and tourism promotion. Did not hurt after TennCare crashed and burned that Tennessee has no state income tax for those relocating.

Still has a high crime rate in some areas which can spill over to the tourist areas on occasion.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

111 the obvious pre-EV threat in those urban parking garages is that they are a security nightmare for vulnerable pyrsyns.

A perp could be crouched between vehicles and you'd never even expect it when he rolls up behind you.

I hate those garages. I used them almost entire life but never considered the safety issue until I was in my own little building of 8 units' garage. I was getting out of my car and I saw a shady dude right on the sidewalk but I managed to hit the button to close the door before he could duck under it.

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:26 AM (dCxaZ)

112 during which he “graciously accepted His Holiness Pope Francis’s invitation to visit the Vatican next month.”

oh no

the Pope must have a poopy pants fetish
Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:24 AM (dCxaZ)
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I recently heard that that's not all Joe did. The current scuttlebut is that Joe threw up on the Pope first.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:26 AM (krQz2)

113 Hopefully one of Biden's handlers are making sure that he goes to the bathroom before meeting the Pope and that he's wearing Depends.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (+4yJ5)

114 Well, looks like Disney will finally have a bomb on its hands in 2024.

Mufasa is underperforming badly based on Thursday previews.

Let the news stories calling Disney a dumpster fire that completely ignore the three massive hits they've had this year return!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)

115 A little reminder that when a gasoline powered vehicle does go up in flames, it is always and everywhere an electrical problem that initiates it.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (P7Iz+)

116 Thankfully, they are smart enough not to utilize Lithium battery on the ISS or Nasa spacecraft.

Oh wait, never mind. Ya pays yer money and takes yer chancesz

Posted by: Common Tater at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (fjEsA)

117 Anything but that. She HATES being tickled.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Get some nail polish and "paint" her toe nails some outrageous color. The two of you are the only ones who will see it and know you did it. Just don't tickle her feet while doing this. She might just smile every time she looks at her toes.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (4XwPj)

118 Kill Bill: MSNBC’s Jen Psaki Laments ‘Threat’ Voters Pose to Unresponsive Elected Officials

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Damn voters getting uppity!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
+++
We should always let the experts in government make all decisions for us. They know what's best and should never be questioned.
At least that's what the propaganda media tells us when the dems are in power.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 20, 2024 11:28 AM (Lo97M)

119 114 Well, looks like Disney will finally have a bomb on its hands in 2024.

Mufasa is underperforming badly based on Thursday previews.

Let the news stories calling Disney a dumpster fire that completely ignore the three massive hits they've had this year return!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)

That money was spent covering for last year's bombs. At Disney budgets, every movie has to hit or it starts getting bad for them...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (exHjb)

120 We are adding Immodium to the president's drug cocktail a week prior to the papal visit. Everyone says he's full of shit anyway.

Posted by: Office of the White House Physician at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (G5+As)

121 We should always let the experts in government make all decisions for us. They know what's best and should never be questioned.
At least that's what the propaganda media tells us when the dems are in power.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 20, 2024 11:28 AM (Lo97M)
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Even if they lock down the country and check passports on every corner like Nazis...

Experts know best.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (krQz2)

122 I just found this article. The EPA has granted California the wavier to set emission standards that will result in all ICE and Hybrid vehicles being banned in 2035 in California and the 11 other states that have already adopted the California standard.

This is one last big crap down our throats by Scranton Joe Biden, noted futurist and, energy and technology expert, as he heads out the door that will completely screw up the energy and transportation sectors of the economy if allowed to stand. Plus driving up our costs and making our lives generally far worse.

Nobody voted for this. Biden, I mean, Obama, dictated this is what are doing and if you don't like it you can go to hell. Leftist democracy at work.

https://is.gd/Nf1G8C

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (e+6P0)

123 Wokies renamed Braxton Bragg to Braxton Liberty.

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (Yj6Os)

124 Only fascists listen to the voters.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (j+LsA)

125 *buildings with covered parking garages really need to start considering a ban on EVs.*

Now you've gone to meddling.

Posted by: Residents of Teslatown at December 20, 2024 11:30 AM (dg+HA)

126 Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:26 AM (krQz2)

it's hard to believe that the Pope wants this crash test dummy, a proven NWO LOSER in his vicinity. It's gotta be the cabal of advisers that gave Bergoglio some word salad reason that the barely conscious shell of a loser "POTUS" needs to show up anywhere on the Italian peninsula.

My guess is that they see it as some kind of rebuke to Trump, or at least try to even up the optics because Trump stole the show at the Notre Dame events.

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:30 AM (dCxaZ)

127 Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?
Posted by: Can't Trust A Fart at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (G5+As)

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Taking off his pants first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Enemas will be involved.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:30 AM (e+6P0)

128 So I was working at an EV manufacturing plant.
They had a battery fire.
Said fire melted some important equipment.
They might have to temporarily shut down.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at December 20, 2024 11:31 AM (elaR+)

129 I just found this article. The EPA has granted California the wavier to set emission standards that will result in all ICE and Hybrid vehicles being banned in 2035 in California and the 11 other states that have already adopted the California standard.

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No federal bailouts when they all collapse.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 20, 2024 11:31 AM (Rvj4u)

130 How the Ama-Grinch Stole Christmas.

Amazon Workers Strike As Union Threatens Christmas Package Delays

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

131 I'm thinking fire departments should have a dedicated vehicle and system to latch onto and drag away burning EV's. Maybe something like an expanding harpoon connected to a chain they can literally fire into the EV and then drag it to a safer area. Has to be a way

Posted by: SamIam at December 20, 2024 11:32 AM (oasF3)

132 Only fascists listen to the voters.
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (j+LsA)

Populism is the heart and soul of fascism donchaknow

(I do love the way the MSM conflates populism with majoritarianism)

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2024 11:32 AM (D7oie)

133 Awful. Just awful.

Posted by: Bulg at December 20, 2024 11:33 AM (BPWTa)

134 127 Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?
Posted by: Can't Trust A Fart at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (G5+As)
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Taking off his pants first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Enemas will be involved.
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Upside, there is a shit ton of Italian marble and stonework available to break an ancient hip.

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 11:33 AM (jFCkp)

135 Has to be a way

Posted by: SamIam at December 20, 2024 11:32 AM (oasF3)

D9 Cat

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:33 AM (Yj6Os)

136 The myth that ICE vehicles catch on fire more frequently than EV's is just that - a myth.

The rate of spontaneously ignition of vehicle fires for EV's is much, much higher than ICE vehicles. ICE vehicles catch on fire "more frequently" due to accidents and arson. Even then, most ICE vehicle fires are put out easily before any collateral damage is incurred.

Whereas with EV fires, and more terrifyingly - VCE (Vapor Combustible Explosions) start seemingly by themselves with the vehicle at rest.

The South Korean Insurance industry just last year found that EV fires do in fact out-pace ICE fires - and when they do catch fire, the cost of the damage is much, much worse.

The only thing keeping the rest of the world from recognizing this obvious fact is the FUD emanating from the EVangelist lobby.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (4Ehg5)

137 Thank you al for making your points so articulately

that said, I think the

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (/7KEl)

138 Meh.

Insurance co. will play ball, if Wuhan Flu debacle is any guide.

They could have easily declined to pay out on Covid deaths. Engineered bioweapons are not covered under Life Insurance. (Nor experimental emergency vaccines, for that matter)

Posted by: Common Tater at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (fjEsA)

139 People have become so used to the idea of "ideology" being something that every politics has. It's not though.

Ideology is actually a theory on how people should be governed, almost always academic, and almost always opposing whatever pragmatic opposition that may arise from the implementation of that agenda.

Posted by: Axeman
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Just like to add to your excellent summary that ideology beliefs in people create a causal mechanism in their mind between their beliefs in how the world works and specific policies meant to forward putting their 'principles' into action.

It is a relatively small percentage of a given population at any time that are ideologues--estimates are about 10-15 percent while most people have broad outcome preferences (peace, prosperity, etc.) but not much idea how to bring those about.

Average people can decide eventually what policies they do not like or what policies they do like based on experiences. Vietnam War is an example.

Once they have come to public judgment on a matter, it becomes very difficult (and frustrating for ideologues with a 'better' way) to change their minds.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (ctrM5)

140 I'm hoping for a government shutdown that lasts until next summer, at least.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (Rvj4u)

141 How the Ama-Grinch Stole Christmas.

Amazon Workers Strike As Union Threatens Christmas Package Delays
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

I don't care what your contract bitches are with Amazon, but if you ruin Christmas for hundreds of thousands of people, I will not piss on you if you were on fire.

What a shit show of a day so far.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (jHelr)

142 140 I'm hoping for a government shutdown that lasts until next summer, at least.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (Rvj4u)

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Return to 1914 levels of spending relative to GDP or bust.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

143
What a shit show of a day so far.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (jHelr)

Stay strong and keep the faith, brother.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

144 Coal in your stocking.

Coal Use Hits Record High in 2024 Thanks to India and China

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

145 Only fascists listen to the voters.
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2024 11:29 AM (j+LsA)
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Because people who listen to the voters are "On the Right" where fascists are.

It's illiterate logic.

Also, thanks to James Lindsay's podcast, I now know the manipulation that Engels put on "The State".

So, in Engels view, if you can't establish that the formal power is "the lower classes for the benefit of the upper classes" then you (rolls eyes) "Don't have 'A State'!"

Because Engels defined "The State" as that power that oppresses the lower classes for the benefit of the upper classes. So, you can have the Dictatorship of the Proletariat until Jesus comes to claim His Throne, and the "Government has withered away" because in theory it's no longer "oppressing the lower classes".

So, as long as the authority of the Organ Formerly Known As The State mandates that nobody question that there is not a lower class being oppressed for the benefit of another class, the "State" has "withered away" and we have Engelian "Utopia".

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:35 AM (krQz2)

146 My guess is that they see it as some kind of rebuke to Trump, or at least try to even up the optics because Trump stole the show at the Notre Dame events.
Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:30 AM (dCxaZ)

The Vatican is going broke too. I wonder if Francis is trying to re-establish some sort of "Peter's Pence" agreement, or get the Vatican Bank included in some sort of USAID programs.

Maybe to give Biden some sort of legacy they will call it "Biden's Pence" but it won't work. Pence is owned by the same people who own Biden

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2024 11:36 AM (D7oie)

147 The name "Remy" now always makes me think of Olivia Wilde as Remy Hadley, "Thirteen" on House.

It makes me think of the opening of "Smallville."

Or Gambit.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 20, 2024 11:37 AM (WPL6O)

148 And, it has begun snowing.

*considers making tea happen*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 20, 2024 11:37 AM (kgE5c)

149 *considers making tea happen*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 20, 2024 11:37 AM (kgE5c)

"Funny. Jim NEVER has a second cup of coffee at home."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

150 I once saw a parked car combust and burn down. No idea what caused it. Maybe a cigarette or something.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2024 11:39 AM (BI5O2)

151 One more EV article. This one outlines how leftists should go about hectoring us if we dare challenge the notion that EVs are not going solve all of humanity's problems. It drips with arrogance.

https://is.gd/wYjNle

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:39 AM (e+6P0)

152 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice vs. Joker 2.

Both giant messes.

One wants to lecture. The other is mostly just blindly searching for ways to entertain.

Case study in "auteurs" going mad with money in Current Era.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

153 129 No federal bailouts when they all collapse.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

How about this: Federal bailout but it's completely funded by the dissolution of the EPA and liquidating their assets?

Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2024 11:39 AM (+4yJ5)

154 108 Not that it's relevant but, imagine all the carbon put into the atmosphere from the fire started by that EV.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

And mix in the fact they don't have a solution for actually putting the fire out.
Posted by: Sponge
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Lithium battery fires are far more toxic than a gasoline fire. And as Sponge points out, the only way to actually put it out is massive doses of water to cool the ingredients down past the combustion point.

But, pouring water on an electrical system can cause shorting in the remaining cells which can reignite the fire so putting out a lithium multicell fire becomes an exercise in futility until it burns itself out eventually.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:39 AM (ctrM5)

155 Stay strong and keep the faith, brother.
Posted by: Sponge

Will do! Work is trying to switch over to SAP S4 on Jan 1 and out HR department is trying to seitch over our time keeping to a different program on Monday the 23rd. HR is putting out two different instructions and IT is tied up with SAP.

How about NOT trying to start two huge programs for a 10k employee multinational company at the same time DURING Christmas???

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:40 AM (jHelr)

156 10 Indiana @ 7 Notre Dame 4PM EST

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)

157 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.

Posted by: Sixiron at December 20, 2024 11:41 AM (c4Wfm)

158 And, it has begun snowing.

*considers making tea happen*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 20, 2024 11:37 AM (kgE5c)

Tea does not "happen". Tea is intentional.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2024 11:41 AM (D7oie)

159 Maybe Pope Frankie Goes to Hollywood just sees Biden as an aging Catholic whose health is in decline and wants to give him that last special invite while he's still president and has easier travel. Probably can't do that as easily after he leaves office. And Biden is, more or less, a prominent Catholic. Or that's how he identifies anyway.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2024 11:43 AM (4XwPj)

160 > The EPA has granted California the wavier to set emission standards that will result in all ICE and Hybrid vehicles being banned in 2035 in California and the 11 other states that have already adopted the California standard.
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A decade in the future. A lot can, and probably will happen between now and then. And if it comes to fruition it'll start with early adopters trying to beat the rest of the market introducing whatever solutions they've got prior to 2035.

And those solutions will not all be privately owned EV's.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 20, 2024 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

161 10 Indiana @ 7 Notre Dame 4PM EST

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)

think it's 8 eastern

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:43 AM (Yj6Os)

162
The lib/schmucks are all hoping it was a Tesla so they can rage hate on Elon Musk. I do hate the left.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 11:43 AM (+oR7L)

163 > And, it has begun snowing.
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there's talk of a 'snowless winter' here in my AO in CO
don't tease me

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

164 Well, looks like Disney will finally have a bomb on its hands in 2024.

Mufasa is underperforming badly based on Thursday previews.

Let the news stories calling Disney a dumpster fire that completely ignore the three massive hits they've had this year return!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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LOL, I had the same thought. I was assured a few months ago that Disney was dead and buried. Since then, the company had some yuge hits. Its stock is up over 25% percent. Where's all the "Disney is dead!" commentary?

As for Mufasa, it seems like a dumb story that even Lion King fans don't care about. Plus, I didn't even heard about it until I saw a shitty promo poster on a taxicab. There seemed to be no big marketing push or buzz.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

165
How about NOT trying to start two huge programs for a 10k employee multinational company at the same time DURING Christmas???
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:40 AM (jHelr)

I'm old enough to remember when the end of the year meant a freeze on any and all changes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

166 150 I once saw a parked car combust and burn down. No idea what caused it. Maybe a cigarette or something.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Electrical shorts in aging cars or via manufacturing defects can cause it.

Sometimes it comes from gas vapors escaping to somewhere that a spark or smouldering fire exists.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (ctrM5)

167 >think it's 8 eastern

Posted by: BignJames
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I know right? crazy...

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

168 100
‘ Biden shit his pants in front of the Pope last time. How can he top that?
Posted by: Can't Trust A Fartt

Taking off his pants first’

“Can I sit on your throne?”

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (jbnUc)

169
The budget CR's always went smoothly before Elon Musk stuck his nose in it!

-Nobody

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 11:45 AM (+oR7L)

170 Just like to add to your excellent summary that ideology beliefs in people create a causal mechanism in their mind between their beliefs in how the world works and specific policies meant to forward putting their 'principles' into action.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:34 AM (ctrM5)
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Yup.

And that's how you get "Lysenkoism". You start insisting that reality really coincides with your enlightened view and that what everybody has believed about reality before is simply the witchcraft of the Structure of Oppression.

So, Lysenko earnestly believed that nature was really at base more cooperative than what "Capitalists" had made dogma. And as head of Soviet Agriculture insisted that all people who had formerly applied themselves as skilled farmers, heed the "True Cooperative Nature of Nature" more consistent with Marx's theory.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:45 AM (krQz2)

171
think it's 8 eastern
Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:43 AM (Yj6Os)

CBS Sports app says 7 PM in the best time zone, so yes, you're correct.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

172 Go Indiana.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 20, 2024 11:45 AM (zVPnY)

173 I loved listening to Rush when the government shutdown. His thought were this is the greatest thing that has happened since the British surrendered and that we should take note that nothing in our lives changed when it was flat on its back. Experience over the last 30 years has shown this to be true and that our lives are made far worse when the government is up and running. Shut it down for the next year: the truly essential functions of the government will get funded while the useless aspects will wither away.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (e+6P0)

174 Yea know, it's almost all like these regulations in the name of "health and safety" are nothing more than cover for more sinister motivations.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Of course they are. Some of the assholes pushing this are in it for financial gain while pseudo aristocrats do it to punish the plebes and put them in their place. Government creeps are in it for bigger budgets and more power to do the same.

And Media are paid propagandists for the whole shebang.
Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:23 AM (ctrM5)
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Surely you knew I was being sarcastic with my "it's almost all like" comment? LOL. I of course meant "it's surely and indisputably like . . . ."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (iFTx/)

175 So, did nobody else hear that Biden barfed on the Pope?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (krQz2)

176 I'm just going to note Mountain time from now on

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (/7KEl)

177 EV's in a multi family parking lot.
Like having a resident who gets drunk and smokes in bed living below you.

Posted by: COL. SANDERS at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (oOc/o)

178 164 As for Mufasa, it seems like a dumb story that even Lion King fans don't care about. Plus, I didn't even heard about it until I saw a shitty promo poster on a taxicab. There seemed to be no big marketing push or buzz.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

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The director, Barry Jenkins, who won the Oscar for his movie Moonlight (gay black man coming of age story), has been ardently defending himself for selling out for two years.

Until last week when he finally admitted that he just took the cash and the whole process was deadening and he'll never make a movie like it again.

This combines with stories like the woman who directed The Marvels talking about how she ghosted the entire production at a certain point and let the producers run the show without her.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

179 As far as I can tell from a quick search, to buy a basic Tesla roadster you’re gonna shell out $45K. That’s a lot more than an ICE say Toyota Camry which is more in the $30K range.

The people buying these things are at worst upper middle class. There’s no way your average family can afford one, even if they weren’t potential fire hazards

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (+kWhq)

180 Investigation reveals racist messages at Tennessee college were a hoax meant to make Republicans look bad

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Geez! It's not like the Republicans need any help to look bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (L/fGl)

181 There seemed to be no big marketing push or buzz.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

You must not watch much TV.

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (Yj6Os)

182 169
The budget CR's always went smoothly before Elon Musk stuck his nose in it!

-Nobody
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 11:45 AM (+oR7L)

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"We could have forced this through with just a rumble of controversy, quickly forgotten, before people started paying this close of attention. This isn't how we're supposed to rule you!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

183 Scranton Joe to the Pope: I come bearing scents, shuffles, and mumbles.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (e+6P0)

184 And, it has begun snowing.
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And so it begins...

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (krQz2)

185 The name "Remy" now always makes me think of Olivia Wilde as Remy Hadley, "Thirteen" on House.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 11:13 AM

ELAINE: Of course I support your decision to change your name.
JOEL: After the Giant game I realized that this--this problem isn't going away.
JOEL: O.K. you got your list?
ELAINE: Yeah. Yeah. 10 names.
JOEL: Right.
ELAINE: O.K. And if somebody objects, you can just veto it.

ELAINE: O.K. O.K. Remy.
JOEL: Remy Rifkin? Should I get a beret?

https://bit.ly/3DrHZHr

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (P5BPp)

186 The EPA has granted California the wavier to set emission standards that will result in all ICE and Hybrid vehicles being banned in 2035 in California and the 11 other states that have already adopted the California standard.
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A decade in the future. A lot can, and probably will happen between now and then. And if it comes to fruition it'll start with early adopters trying to beat the rest of the market introducing whatever solutions they've got prior to 2035.

For example, Trump's EPA could rescind the waiver on the basis that the EPA lacks the authority to grant it. Put the onus back on Congress to be responsible for stupidity rather than throwing their arms in the air and saying 'bureaucrats".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:48 AM (ExV1e)

187 LOL, I had the same thought. I was assured a few months ago that Disney was dead and buried. Since then, the company had some yuge hits. Its stock is up over 25% percent. Where's all the "Disney is dead!" commentary?

As for Mufasa, it seems like a dumb story that even Lion King fans don't care about. Plus, I didn't even heard about it until I saw a shitty promo poster on a taxicab. There seemed to be no big marketing push or buzz.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Corporations often get a dead cat bounce and one of the virtues of a conglomerate like Disney is that earnings from one unit can offset poor performance in another for a time.

Eventually though, amputations are needed to exit dying businesses like cable/broadcast tv or the whole conglomerate starts to disintegrate.

The mighty Intel is currently mired in such a situation despite its current profits. The longer term prognosis though is more serious unless serious changes are made including deciding whether or not to exit the Foundry business.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:48 AM (ctrM5)

188 @FoxNews
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Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

189 Electrifying experience, buy a Kia.

Posted by: Eromero at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (jgmnb)

190 I’m in a strange position for me of pulling for Notre Dame tonight because I’m annoyed that Indiana made the playoff by beating up on cupcakes and getting blown out by the one legitimate team they played… boy did the committee screw the pooch with this playoff system. Same with SMU and Clemson who’ll get stomped by PSU and Texas respectively

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (+kWhq)

191 I'm old enough to remember when the end of the year meant a freeze on any and all changes.
Posted by: Sponge

Yeah. Our pricing analysts, who close out the monthly and year end sales books, are going to look like Samuel L. Jackson's character in Jurassic Park trying to go thru Wayne Knight's 20 million lines of code.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (jHelr)

192 The director, Barry Jenkins, who won the Oscar for his movie Moonlight (gay black man coming of age story)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
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A Coming of Fag story.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (krQz2)

193 Drat! I get the 500 Error whenever I hit an X/Twitter 'shadow account' [probably not what they're really called] using xcancel. I hoped they're not perma-blocked now like the former Nitter one.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (hovnC)

194 @FoxNews
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Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

Heh. Yeah. Keep going with that one. How many world leaders has he met with one on one thus far? Trump's met with a few. And we also have had 4 years of Trump's presidency, so we're aware of how he functions.

The left is dumb is an understatement.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

195 Yeah. Our pricing analysts, who close out the monthly and year end sales books, are going to look like Samuel L. Jackson's character in Jurassic Park trying to go thru Wayne Knight's 20 million lines of code.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (jHelr)

Heh.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

196 As for Mufasa, it seems like a dumb story that even Lion King fans don't care about. Plus, I didn't even heard about it until I saw a shitty promo poster on a taxicab. There seemed to be no big marketing push or buzz.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

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The director, Barry Jenkins, who won the Oscar for his movie Moonlight (gay black man coming of age story), has been ardently defending himself for selling out for two years.

Until last week when he finally admitted that he just took the cash and the whole process was deadening and he'll never make a movie like it again.

This combines with stories like the woman who directed The Marvels talking about how she ghosted the entire production at a certain point and let the producers run the show without her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
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If you want a director for a new installment of a blockbuster, family-friendly, musical cartoon about anthropomorphic animals, the obvious choice is a wildly overrated, racist, art-house hack director of "whitey sucks" bullshit.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 11:51 AM (iFTx/)

197 Pardon me boy, is that the electrical Kia? Down in the garage, amongst the hodgepodge?

Posted by: Eromero at December 20, 2024 11:51 AM (jgmnb)

198 Surely you knew I was being sarcastic with my "it's almost all like" comment? LOL. I of course meant "it's surely and indisputably like . . . ."
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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I had not noticed that you are a working practitioner of sarcasm.

I will revise my programming to consider everything from you in the future should be run through the sarcasm filter first before commenting on your posts.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:51 AM (ctrM5)

199 @FoxNews
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Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)
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Why are they repeating themselves like that?

I think in the Biden's-been-senile-the-entire-time story the media was outed as being water carriers for whatever the DC Party wants.

The media is repeating baseless DNC-strategy spin.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:52 AM (krQz2)

200 179 As far as I can tell from a quick search, to buy a basic Tesla roadster you’re gonna shell out $45K. That’s a lot more than an ICE say Toyota Camry which is more in the $30K range.

The people buying these things are at worst upper middle class. There’s no way your average family can afford one, even if they weren’t potential fire hazards
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM (+kWhq)

Tesla does not sell the roadster any more and while the Model 3 is theoretically a $35k car transaction prices are higher.

Camrys can be cheaper but those transaction prices are closer to $40k.

The car in this story was a Kia and it doesn't say what model but it's going to be priced mid-50s. Which if you look at prices of mid size SUVs in any dealership is about middle of the pack.

Posted by: blaster at December 20, 2024 11:52 AM (QfvaV)

201 151
‘ This one outlines how leftists should go about hectoring us’

This makes the gigantic leap that anyone but leftists are listening to leftists.
They need to look up the word ‘discredited’.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:52 AM (jbnUc)

202 I’m in a strange position for me of pulling for Notre Dame tonight because I’m annoyed that Indiana made the playoff by beating up on cupcakes and getting blown out by the one legitimate team they played… boy did the committee screw the pooch with this playoff system. Same with SMU and Clemson who’ll get stomped by PSU and Texas respectively
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (+kWhq)

I have to go for ND as Pedd State shouldn't have a program due to running a child sex farm for decades and SMU got the 'death penalty' for paying players.

I hope SMU makes a long run, but don't think they're talented enough to.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

203 Investigation reveals racist messages at Tennessee college were a hoax meant to make Republicans look bad

A race based "hate" crime was a hoax? Well knock me over with a feather. That hasn't happened since the last race based "hate" crime.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (ExV1e)

204 We drive Toyotas, have for a long time… not sexy, but they’re good.

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (PCK5/)

205 6h
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Posted by: Don Black
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Meh, works best with Commies and/or Europeans, not so well with normies that like successful businessmen.

Commerce is not a dirty word in the US except in Democrat havens of academia, media, and in the bureaucracy.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

206 How about NOT trying to start two huge programs for a 10k employee multinational company at the same time DURING Christmas???

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:40 AM (jHelr)

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Do they know it's Christmas time at all?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (krQz2)

207 It's terrible to use White Phosphorus and Depleted Uranium on our enemies but trendy to use Lithium on your neighbor.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (FhXTo)

208 "We could have forced this through with just a rumble of controversy, quickly forgotten, before people started paying this close of attention. This isn't how we're supposed to rule you!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

Now that they've gotten an AI (Grok, I believe) rigged up to analyze legislation, I assume Congress will ban AI.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (ExV1e)

209 Breaking911@Breaking911
The purple-haired lady is unhappy:
“President Musk said don't do it! Don't do it! Shut the government down! Imagine! What does he know about what people go through when the government shuts down?!”

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Rosa DeLauro. The "purple-haired" part I understand but "lady"?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (L/fGl)

210 The left is dumb is an understatement.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

I don't think their little talking point will have the effect they intend.

Elon, Vance, Tulsi, Vivek, deSantis...any one of them is better than a White House full of Obama travelers

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (dCxaZ)

211 208 Now that they've gotten an AI (Grok, I believe) rigged up to analyze legislation, I assume Congress will ban AI.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (ExV1e)

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Regulate it so that only Google can use it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (GBKbO)

212 184 And, it has begun snowing.
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And so it begins...
Posted by: Axeman
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Then the murders started.....

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (ctrM5)

213 For example, Trump's EPA could rescind the waiver on the basis that the EPA lacks the authority to grant it. Put the onus back on Congress to be responsible for stupidity rather than throwing their arms in the air and saying 'bureaucrats".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:48 AM (ExV1e)

The right needs to use the "Sue and Settle" strategy that the left has employed whenever they are in power.

Essentially our aligned groups sue the bureaucracies and agencies over a rule they don't like - and instead of fighting it in court, the agency simply "settles" the case by relenting to the "aggrieved" party.

The problem is not a single f*cking spineless ICE manufacturer (maybe Ram, with Kuniskis back at the helm) will do that.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (cUb+5)

214 Of course, I notice ND isn't playing Pedd State, but I'm STILL going for SMU for the same reason.

I will root for Indiana because I'm tired of ND rolling out the 4 horsemen which haven't been relevant since the 30's.

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

215 Democrats, media allies push talking point that Elon Musk is truly incoming president instead of Trump.

Trump has a knack for listening to the wrong people. Musk will burn the American People at some point.

But this is nothing new. Nobody - and I do mean nobody - has influenced American policy and politics more in the last 15 years than Valerie Jarrett. And that bitch never won a single vote.

So, per usual, all the right people can blow it out their ass.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (yq9Cj)

216 As far as I can tell, Trump &Co. may be initiating a modified “ Burn it down, salt the earth” progrm for DC… if so, my Christmas wish is fulfilled…

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (PCK5/)

217 Pardon me boy, is that the electrical Kia? Down in the garage, amongst the hodgepodge?
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Yes, sir. Rayovac 69!

Posted by: Whitey Sucks at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (hovnC)

218 215 Trump has a knack for listening to the wrong people. Musk will burn the American People at some point.

But this is nothing new. Nobody - and I do mean nobody - has influenced American policy and politics more in the last 15 years than Valerie Jarrett. And that bitch never won a single vote.

So, per usual, all the right people can blow it out their ass.
Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (yq9Cj)

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Compromise:

No elected official may have staff. All work must be done by the elected officials themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)

219 Democrats, media allies push talking point that Elon Musk is truly incoming president instead of Trump
Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

https://youtu.be/Ram7AKbtkGE

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (ExV1e)

220 Elon, Vance, Tulsi, Vivek, deSantis...any one of them is better than a White House full of Obama travelers

Posted by: kallisto at December 20, 2024 11:54 AM (dCxaZ)

Your point is valid.

The main thing I hope this Trump demolish of Harris did was destroy the myth that Owebama was smart and the light bringer for democrats forevermore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)

221 The car in this story was a Kia and it doesn't say what model but it's going to be priced mid-50s. Which if you look at prices of mid size SUVs in any dealership is about middle of the pack. Posted by: blaster

I just went through buying a car. I bought a top of the line gasoline Toyota RAV4 and I paid 40K out the door. A reasonable comparison is the VW ID.4. I looked at some on the lot prices and they were 10K to 15K more. And if you look at the range specs deduct 20%.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:57 AM (e+6P0)

222 Biden to make return trip to Vatican. Priceless tapestries at greatest risk. One Hour Martinizing Squad on full alert.

Posted by: Stanley Steemer, Too! at December 20, 2024 11:57 AM (G5+As)

223 Tesla does not sell the roadster any more and while the Model 3 is theoretically a $35k car transaction prices are higher.

Elon announced the return of the roadster.

4 years ago.

It's still not here. Just like the $30k Model 3, self driving Cybercuck, and a shedload of other promises Tesla/Musk has made and never delivered on.

Despite all of his recent antics, I'm still not an Elon fan. He single-handedly made this EV nonsense possible.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 11:57 AM (cUb+5)

224 156
‘ 10 Indiana @ 7 Notre Dame 4PM EST’

It’s a shame they can’t both lose.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

225 6h
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Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)
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Why are they repeating themselves like that?

I think in the Biden's-been-senile-the-entire-time story the media was outed as being water carriers for whatever the DC Party wants.

The media is repeating baseless DNC-strategy spin.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:52 AM (krQz2)

I know right? Dems think this is some sick burn, yet again don't realize they are playing to their looney base.

Elon is a smart guy and owns a platform that speaks directly to the people without an msm filter. That makes him powerful as long as he resonates with the population. If he doesn't resonate then he would be as popular as maddow and mika.

Rosa delauradangerhair is a clown.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (OA79/)

226 How about NOT trying to start two huge programs for a 10k employee multinational company at the same time DURING Christmas???
Posted by: rickb223

Never stick your dick in crazy is a dare for some people.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (FhXTo)

227 222 Biden to make return trip to Vatican. Priceless tapestries at greatest risk. One Hour Martinizing Squad on full alert.
Posted by: Stanley Steemer, Too! at December 20, 2024 11:57 AM (G5+As)

Pope Frankie gonna sell him some major indulgences for his upcoming actions… maybe some good Fire insurance…

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (PCK5/)

228 Do they know it's Christmas time at all?
Posted by: Axeman

Yeah. No vacations this week thru Jan 6th.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (jHelr)

229 Same with SMU and Clemson who’ll get stomped by PSU and Texas respectively
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 11:49 AM (+kWhq)

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game- an all orange stadium
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Posted by: LASue at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (lCppi)

230 Saw some actually saying "Monk bought the Presidency"

When Kamala outspent Trump 3-to-1.

How does paying a lot less than competition "buy the Presidency"?

He got it at a voter-initiated discount?!

Proof that the DNC works for non-thinking people, because getting the voters to agree with the campaign spread through money *IS* our system.

Who cares what words mean when you're trying to "craft a message"?!

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (krQz2)

231 We drive Toyotas, have for a long time… not sexy, but they’re good.
Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 11:53 AM (PCK5/)

Reliable is pretty sexy in a car.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (ExV1e)

232 It's time to replace lithium battery cars and buses with reliable technology - steam power!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (VNX3d)

233 Well, the powers that be have been f***ing with Elon for a long time

I think they will turn that up to 11 now

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)

234 Never stick your dick in crazy is a dare for some people.
Posted by: DaveA

*snort.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (jHelr)

235 I remember when a "Korean KIA" was a bad thing

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (D7oie)

236 Do they know it's Christmas time at all?
Posted by: Axeman

Yeah. No vacations this week thru Jan 6th.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (jHelr)
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Are they boiling people in their own figgy pudding?

Have they mentioned the sufficiency of prisons to house the poor?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:00 PM (krQz2)

237 208 Now that they've gotten an AI (Grok, I believe) rigged up to analyze legislation, I assume Congress will ban AI.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I noticed that Musk application of AI and that is exactly how to apply it as an expert system rather than diddling around with general AI answering stupid questions as on reddit and quora.

Computers are extremely good at fitting in the gobbledygook of bills in a timely fashion if they have been trained on the existing US Code and spending authorization bills. Sort of like the other AI techniques in upscaling images (use the current graphic info to infer what a higher resolution pix would be etc.)

So, Grok could get a good summary quick of a current bill and how it affects current existing law (including spending bills) going forward.

Nice application of it and empowering to people. Has to scare the shit out of DC and its power mongers.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 12:00 PM (ctrM5)

238 My guess is Biden is seeing the Pope to sell him a Pardon.

Posted by: pudinhead at December 20, 2024 12:00 PM (jFCkp)

239 I loved listening to Rush when the government shutdown. His thought were this is the greatest thing that has happened since the British surrendered and that we should take note that nothing in our lives changed when it was flat on its back.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 11:46 AM

Great discussion here by Rush Limbaugh when President Trump threatened a government shut down over illegal immigration and the border wall.

July 2018: https://bit.ly/4ggSNGN

So Trump is taking the exact opposite route. He is saying he would be willing to do it. The key is over what? Immigration. Trump is showing he’s not afraid of a government shutdown — which, believe me, the base of this party loves. The base of the Republican Party… We know now, by the way, any poll shows Trump has 85 to 92% support the Republican Party. The Republican base is Trump’s now.

It’s not a bunch of populist nationalists. It’s the mainstream of the Republican Party that’s for Trump, and they hate this cowering before the Democrats and the media over government shutdowns. They hate giving up every policy idea in the face of the blackmail of the government shutdown.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 20, 2024 12:00 PM (P5BPp)

240 Of course, I notice ND isn't playing Pedd State, but I'm STILL going for SMU for the same reason.

I will root for Indiana because I'm tired of ND rolling out the 4 horsemen which haven't been relevant since the 30's.

I'll see myself out.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

Yours are perfectly respectable positions! Hope the First Lady is feeling better

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (WnEm5)

241 Reliable is pretty sexy in a car.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (ExV1e)

I own a Toyota.

And a Land Rover, and a Hummer.

The Toyota is always the last vehicle I pick to drive. It's f*cking boring. In fact the only thing I do with it anymore is use it to drive to the dump and back.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (cUb+5)

242 I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game- an all orange stadium
.
Posted by: LASue at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (lCppi)

There ya go! Don't think my Tigers are up to the task...we shall see...

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (Yj6Os)

243 Hope the First Lady is feeling better
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (WnEm5)

Just woke up from a nap. Sounds terrible, but says she's feeling ok.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)

244 Here's an idea to help move along a clean short-term CR (if that's desirable).

Pass a bill that prevents non-critical civilian federal employees and contractors from back pay from government shutdowns. If they weren't important enough to be kept on during a shutdown, they don't deserve to be paid for it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 12:02 PM (VNX3d)

245 Are they boiling people in their own figgy pudding?

Have they mentioned the sufficiency of prisons to house the poor?
Posted by: Axeman

LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 20, 2024 12:02 PM (jHelr)

246 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
Posted by: Sixiron

Trust. But you can put those out

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 20, 2024 12:02 PM (JkCto)

247 Hollywood big shot Jeffery Katzenberg was tapped to find a voice coach to disguise Biden’s dementia.

https://is.gd/kXybR7

Lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 12:02 PM (L/fGl)

248 233 Well, the powers that be have been f***ing with Elon for a long time

I think they will turn that up to 11 now
Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)

This time Musk is going to have some power of his own.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 12:03 PM (zQ3t+)

249 I will run ICE until I can’t. They just work.

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 12:03 PM (PCK5/)

250 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
Posted by: Sixiron

The Porsche 911 GT3 had an issue with that. Germans use shitty wiring at a risk, but don't really care.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

251 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
Posted by: Sixiron

Trust. But you can put those out
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal

I have a cousin that is a fireman. They are terrified of EV fires.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 20, 2024 12:03 PM (e+6P0)

252 I love reliability in a car. But even more, I love when I still smile when I walk up to my car of n years, and when I still enjoy driving it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)

253 Compromise:

No elected official may have staff. All work must be done by the elected officials themselves.

There's something to that. I don't have a solution, but you definitely hit on part of the problem. All these dweebs seem to be able to manufacture positions, with salary and access, out of thin air.

For Senators and Reps - it's seemed obvious to me for my entire life. There should be no Federal money involved. States can pay salaries and expenses as they each see fit. That's very obvious to me.

For the Executive ? I don't know. Seems like a jealous House and Senate would raise Holy Hell about every dollar.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (yq9Cj)

254 LOL, I had the same thought. I was assured a few months ago that Disney was dead and buried. Since then, the company had some yuge hits. Its stock is up over 25% percent. Where's all the "Disney is dead!" commentary?

Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Corporations often get a dead cat bounce and one of the virtues of a conglomerate like Disney is that earnings from one unit can offset poor performance in another for a time.

Eventually though, amputations are needed to exit dying businesses like cable/broadcast tv or the whole conglomerate starts to disintegrate.

The mighty Intel is currently mired in such a situation despite its current profits. The longer term prognosis though is more serious unless serious changes are made including deciding whether or not to exit the Foundry business.
Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 11:48 AM (ctrM5)
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I haven't bought Disney stock because I despise the company. But there's upside to the stock.

I bought some Intel near its bottom, at $20. I think it's worth at least $30. $40 if it can get its ass back in gear. We'll see.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

255 I will run ICE until I can’t. They just work.
Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 12:03 PM (PCK5/)

I've said it for years. You want a replacement for gasoline, come up with something BETTER and I'll listen. Batteries are not BETTER than gas. Gas is still king.

End the ethanol mandates, NOW. That stuff is trash. They knew it in the 1800s.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)

256 The Toyota is always the last vehicle I pick to drive. It's f*cking boring. In fact the only thing I do with it anymore is use it to drive to the dump and back.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:01 PM (cUb+5)

My wife is a Toyota fangirl. The last 8, or so, vehicles I've bought have all been Toyotas. Had each one for over a decade without issues. I don't look to my cars for excitement. Not intended as a diss toward you - different strokes and all that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (ExV1e)

257 >Nice application of it and empowering to people. Has to scare the shit out of DC and its power mongers.

Posted by: whig
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XLNT observation

they can't hide the pork barrel projects anymore

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)

258 I know right? Dems think this is some sick burn, yet again don't realize they are playing to their looney base.

Elon is a smart guy and owns a platform that speaks directly to the people without an msm filter. That makes him powerful as long as he resonates with the population. If he doesn't resonate then he would be as popular as maddow and mika.

Rosa delauradangerhair is a clown.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 20, 2024 11:58 AM (OA79/)
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I'm okay with them doing that these days though. Because as more comes out about media corruption and collusion with the Democrat message, and the more they distort contexts to make their message, the greater the likelihood that they cause a few more would-be drones to walk away.

I saw this video the other day of a guy who was said that his last day as a Democrat was a DNC debate. The context is that he had lost his ample-coverage-low-premium health insurance under "Obamacare". And he replaced it with a plan that cost (I think) 12 times more for a 6 times larger deductible.

What he saw was every Democrat on stage raised their hands to give illegal aliens free health care. And that was his "Last Day as a Democrat".

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (krQz2)

259 253
There's something to that. I don't have a solution, but you definitely hit on part of the problem. All these dweebs seem to be able to manufacture positions, with salary and access, out of thin air.

For Senators and Reps - it's seemed obvious to me for my entire life. There should be no Federal money involved. States can pay salaries and expenses as they each see fit. That's very obvious to me.

For the Executive ? I don't know. Seems like a jealous House and Senate would raise Holy Hell about every dollar.
Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (yq9Cj)

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How effective would Mitch be without his staff? How long ago would he have been a non-entity in the Senate?

Who elected his staff?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

260 As for people who say that Teslas never catch fire...

mguy just had a video today about a hurricane flood damaged Tesla exploding inside of a shipping container in Miami. Thankfully nobody was hurt but it could have been much, much worse.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (cUb+5)

261 The Vice President’s office said Harris would not travel to California on Thursday as planned and would instead remain in the capital.

Guidance from Harris' aides said she would 'receive briefings and conduct internal meetings with staff’. It came as the fate of a congressional effort to fund the federal government remains uncertain and a shutdown looms.

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2024 12:06 PM (RHGPo)

262 I love reliability in a car. But even more, I love when I still smile when I walk up to my car of n years, and when I still enjoy driving it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)

My 96 Ranger is uncomfortable and moderately gutless, but the 5 speed and Flowmaster exhaust makes it fun. I love that little thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

263 258 I saw this video the other day of a guy who was said that his last day as a Democrat was a DNC debate. The context is that he had lost his ample-coverage-low-premium health insurance under "Obamacare". And he replaced it with a plan that cost (I think) 12 times more for a 6 times larger deductible.

What he saw was every Democrat on stage raised their hands to give illegal aliens free health care. And that was his "Last Day as a Democrat".
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (krQz2)

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I saw that.

Dude's a fucking moron.

His last day as a Democrat should have been the day he lost his health insurance. It took almost a decade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:06 PM (GBKbO)

264 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
Posted by: Sixiron

Go take an open gallon of gas into your backyard. Now throw a lit cigarette into it.

The gas will probably quench the cig. Gasoline is awesome for a variety of reasons. It takes work to ignite gasoline - but you get a tremendous return on investment when you do.

What you'll never see - absolutely damn never - is a gallon of gas create its own heat and thus its own ignition source.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (yq9Cj)

265 248
‘ This time Musk is going to have some power of his own.’

I’m ambivalent about Musk. I’m glad he’s on our side and he’s very talented. But I don’t want him to give the impression that the Trump is in his pocket.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (jbnUc)

266
Who elected his staff?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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I ...

Oh wait....

Posted by: M Lewinski at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (krQz2)

267 None of my Toyotas have ever worn out. Crashes have been the demise of them all.

Note to self: Quit giving the kids our old cars when we get new ones.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (WXNFJ)

268 mguy just had a video today about a hurricane flood damaged Tesla exploding inside of a shipping container in Miami. Thankfully nobody was hurt but it could have been much, much worse.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:05 PM (cUb+5)

A battery Porsche lit on fire in a container on a ship in the middle of the ocean.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

269 The legal battles between apartment complex developers/management firms and EV owners about where they can, and can't park are going to make a bunch of lawyers rich. And that's before anyone looks into the insurance ramifications of all this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 20, 2024 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)

270 246 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
Posted by: Sixiron

My friend's H1 caught fire on the trail in Moab when his turbo oil seal started leaking onto his exhaust. Smoke followed by fire. Thankfully we all carry fire extinguishers on board and after about a minute of deployed extinguishers, the flames were out. Minimal damage was done to a wiring harness and the body underside insulation. About 2 hours of trailside repair... an the truck was back on the trail - albeit heading back to the parking lot.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:08 PM (cUb+5)

271 How effective would Mitch be without his staff? How long ago would he have been a non-entity in the Senate? Who elected his staff?

You're nailing it - Mitch got all that staff with Federal money. Nobody from Kentucky had the slightest say about it.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:08 PM (yq9Cj)

272 I saw that.

Dude's a fucking moron.

His last day as a Democrat should have been the day he lost his health insurance. It took almost a decade.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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I'd still rather have him as an ex-Democrat than a "true believer" still.

And he's putting it out there for future-former Democrats.

Ideology and breeding can take a lot to wear off.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:09 PM (krQz2)

273 >How effective would Mitch be without his staff?
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he would be mute and immobile

Posted by: Don Black. Message: please wait at December 20, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)

274 271 How effective would Mitch be without his staff? How long ago would he have been a non-entity in the Senate? Who elected his staff?

You're nailing it - Mitch got all that staff with Federal money. Nobody from Kentucky had the slightest say about it.
Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:08 PM (yq9Cj)

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"It'd be too hard to read 5000 page bills and manage my fundraising without a staff!"

"There's a solution looking you right in the face, there, bub."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

275 261 The Vice President’s office said Harris would not travel to California on Thursday as planned and would instead remain in the capital.

Guidance from Harris' aides said she would 'receive briefings and conduct internal meetings with staff’. It came as the fate of a congressional effort to fund the federal government remains uncertain and a shutdown looms.
Posted by: SMOD
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Her job will be to serve up word salads on the ongoing government shutdown and CR negotiations. Biden is not up to the task of doing even this menial service. I'm thinking Biden is going to the Vatican in hopes of receiving last rites.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (fs1hN)

276 OT — Brian Kilmeade is a retard. That is all

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (WnEm5)

277 272 I'd still rather have him as an ex-Democrat than a "true believer" still.

And he's putting it out there for future-former Democrats.

Ideology and breeding can take a lot to wear off.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:09 PM (krQz2)

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I'd rather have a flatworm on our side than that guy.

It took a decade of pain for him to finally say, "the ACA didn't deliver on its promises."

He should just stop voting. That's the best scenario. He deserves no voice in American governance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

278 XLNT observation

they can't hide the pork barrel projects anymore
Posted by: Don Black
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Now consider AI narrow applications to state and local government including a reporting function for money going to friends, donors, and family from the public checkbook.

If Musk really wants to make a difference, unleashing such an AI on the world would make a MASSIVE difference in improving governance.

Much of the current grifting, treachery, and scumbaggery of legislative and bureaucratic actions are hidden by a veil requiring insider knowledge and someone publishing that knowledge to be revealed.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (ctrM5)

279 252 I love reliability in a car. But even more, I love when I still smile when I walk up to my car of n years, and when I still enjoy driving it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)

As Ed Bolian of VinWiki said: "EV's are vehicles thought up, designed, engineered, built, bought and driven by people who consider driving a *chore*".

They are special use case appliances. Like your built-in coffee maker that is integrated into your kitchen cabinetry.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (cUb+5)

280 Brian Kilmeade is a retard. That is all
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (WnEm5)

He thinks he's someone. He acts accordingly.

He's no one. Hasn't figured it out yet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

281 MSNBC CEO Demands Changes: Wants More Republican Voices and Primetime Pay Cuts

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Well, Liz Cheney is available.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

282 I see that youtube is detecting Brave's adblock again and moaning about it. You can get around this by opening videos in a private window.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (ExV1e)

283 276 OT — Brian Kilmeade is a retard. That is all
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Always appropriate to make fun of Murdoch family tools. Toadies and mediocrities that rely on misleading people that Faux is actually conservative.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 12:12 PM (ctrM5)

284 None of my Toyotas have ever worn out. Crashes have been the demise of them all.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 12:07 PM (WXNFJ)
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When I bought my first Honda, Honda's were hands down the most reliable car.

My wife is a Toyota-girl and has been buying Toyota's as long as I have been Hondas.

I have to say that Honda has fallen to 5th, I think.

Still, in decades of buying Hondas, I think it spent one night in the shop for an electrical recall.

Still, strongly considering making a Toyota my next car.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (krQz2)

285 OT — Brian Kilmeade is a retard. That is all

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:10 PM (WnEm5)

But he's in the smartest 10% of retards that inhabit FNM.

Posted by: BignJames at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (Yj6Os)

286 We have not had a fully passed budget since 2008.

16 years. 16 YEARS.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (+oR7L)

287
The aquarium is awesome. Don't recall much else from a visit many years ago.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 20, 2024 11:08 AM (/y8xj)

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Lookout Mountain is well worth the trip.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Tennesee Valley Railroad. Lots to see there, rides. Heres some rolling stock:
https://www.tvrail.com/equipment/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (XeU6L)

288 286 We have not had a fully passed budget since 2008.

16 years. 16 YEARS.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (+oR7L)

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I believe every CR reauthorizes TARP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

289 I'd rather have a flatworm on our side than that guy. It took a decade of pain for him to finally say, "the ACA didn't deliver on its promises." He should just stop voting. That's the best scenario. He deserves no voice in American governance.

Most people deserve no voice in the implementation of government power to compel their neighbor against their will. Which is all, really, the only thing that government can do.

Most people, my entire life on any topic, will make statements in certain tones that let you know "don't question this". You know how to send most people into absolute meltdown ? Question it anyway. Then don't let the topic change.

That's it. Most people are slaves to their emotion. They don't think their way through life. They feel their way through.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (yq9Cj)

290 He thinks he's someone. He acts accordingly.

He's no one. Hasn't figured it out yet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

His genius take on the radio just now is we have to stop a government shutdown so all those guv workers will get paid… that’s quality stupidity

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (WnEm5)

291 re 135
D9 cat

D9 is just too big. You would need to be able to maneuver better and fit in things like parking garages

Posted by: SamIam at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (oasF3)

292 290 His genius take on the radio just now is we have to stop a government shutdown so all those guv workers will get paid… that’s quality stupidity
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (WnEm5)

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But...they always get paid after a shutdown is over.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

293 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 20, 2024 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

294 286 We have not had a fully passed budget since 2008.

16 years. 16 YEARS.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 12:13 PM (+oR7L)

I imagine we will not have another until the Democrat Party is outlawed… oh, I said the quiet part out loud!!!

Posted by: tubal at December 20, 2024 12:15 PM (PCK5/)

295 What the world needs now is love, sweet love.

Turkey’s President Erdogan Calls for Trade Embargo of Israel

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 20, 2024 12:15 PM (L/fGl)

296 284 None of my Toyotas have ever worn out. Crashes have been the demise of them all.

Bring it to the northeast. Then it will look like a rustbucket like my FJ Cruiser does.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 20, 2024 12:15 PM (cUb+5)

297 I love the argument that Elon couldn't possibly have read a bill that large as fast as he claimed he did.

So, therefore, we should just go ahead and push through all of what Elon can't get a staff to read through or something.

There's a reason why Democrats keep messages short. So you can't think much in that time.

However, some people suggest that Vivek actually read the entire bill and Elon just posted Vivek's call outs.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2024 12:16 PM (krQz2)

298 Not exactly what's being discussed but here's a start:
Mike Engleman @RealHickory Dec 19
The bill is 116 pages, and it looks pretty clean of the BS!
Here's the bill!
https://tinyurl.com/36ytrvvu

Catturd ™ @catturd2 38m
Look how fast Grok can summarize a spending bill. These turds can’t hide their pork now.

https://tinyurl.com/33ndatmn

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 12:16 PM (hovnC)

299 His genius take on the radio just now is we have to stop a government shutdown so all those guv workers will get paid… that’s quality stupidity

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 20, 2024 12:14 PM (WnEm5)

My mother works at the census bureau. I don't care of she draws another check. Its a "service" I don't want, and resent paying for.

Posted by: Don't Care at December 20, 2024 12:17 PM (yq9Cj)

300 I haven't bought Disney stock because I despise the company. But there's upside to the stock.

I bought some Intel near its bottom, at $20. I think it's worth at least $30. $40 if it can get its ass back in gear. We'll see.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 20, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

I can't figure out Disney stock.
They are massive and diversified, and are facing a shitload of problems in 2025. Their main profit center, Disney World, will face competition from Epic Universe opening this spring, as Disney raises prices and tries to chisel every nickel from brain dead pixie dusters.

Movies lately have been doing meh (breaking even/modest profit), but their are not many big flicks on deck for '25.

D+ is a disaster. The Hulu merger is not synergistic.

Then there is ESPN ( I am not familiar with it enough to judge) and ABC ( a POS network).

Having said that, the company can turn itself around if they Pinochet Eiger and their woke-ass cadres and start 1. Telling good stories and 2. Responding to what customers want at a reasonable price.

That my $0.02.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 12:17 PM (ufFY8)

301 267 None of my Toyotas have ever worn out. Crashes have been the demise of them all.

Note to self: Quit giving the kids our old cars when we get new ones.
Posted by: Tonypete

Treat cars with care and basic maintenance, many can last for over a decade. Cars from the 90's to the early 00's, perhaps 300k-500k miles without major work on engines or transmissions.

But, I do think that there has been a general deterioration in auto reliability over the last ten years or so which is caused by government required geegaws for safety or EPA hoops, poor parts sourcing from dubious quality suppliers in third world countries like China or Mexico, and the massive increase in electronics of all sorts in cars.

Posted by: whig at December 20, 2024 12:18 PM (ctrM5)

302 And willowed.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 12:18 PM (ufFY8)

303 302
It happens to the best of us.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 12:23 PM (jbnUc)

304 ICE do also spontaneously ignite, electrical faults number one reason.
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Which means ultimately that a battery has caused the problem, same as EVs.
Not that that means anything.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 20, 2024 12:24 PM (4780s)

305 More carbon dioxide in the air is good for the environment. It feeds the plants which makes the world greener. More plant life means more food for animals that eat plants. More food for animals that eat plants means more food for animals that eat the animals that eat the plants. It’s a win/win all around! Global warming is a hoax. If more carbon dioxide could make the atmosphere “run-away” to extreme heat it would have done so long ago when there was significantly more carbon dioxide in the air. It didn’t because we are too far from the Sun, unlike poor Venus. Poor Mars is too far from the Sun so too cold and too small to retain its atmosphere. We are here in the golden mean distance, large enough to retain our atmosphere and internal magnetism (useful to deflect cosmic rays and much of the solar flux). Life here is not only possible, but pretty good, at least for a few billion years more. If you’re still here in a few billion years, please remember to turn out the light (or God can do it for you!).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 20, 2024 12:27 PM (8uqoP)

306 51 I drive a vintage MG Midget. Hasn't burst into flame, but sometimes it won't start.

Posted by: George Snaffalopogous at December 20, 2024 11:11 AM (G5+As)

My first car was a '64 MG Midget. I learned a LOT about working on cars with that thing. My hands were small enough that I could replace the starter motor without having to remove the distributor. I lived at Pick-n-Pull.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 20, 2024 12:32 PM (hzUuR)

307 I’ve only seen one ICE vehicle ever spontaneously combust. Of course it was a bad battery.

Fire extinguished rather quickly, even if the responding fire fighters originally couldn’t be bothered with actually spraying the water on the flames vs. on the closed hood.

Posted by: PMRich at December 20, 2024 01:10 PM (eh5ud)

308 1. As the number of EVs grows, we're seeing more EV fires where the EV is parked in the garage of an apartment building.
2. ...causing insurance companies to consider telling building owners that their fire policies will no longer cover EVs parked in garages of those buildings.
3. Pro-EV wokiez in the biden regime threaten an Executive Order banning that, claiming it "unfairly discriminates" against people who own electric vehicles. Since "unfair" is a winning buzz-word for wokiez, Americans don't object.
4. Insurance companies go to Plan B: raising premiums on those buildings.
5. biden's handlers have him sign an Executive Order barring insurance companies from doing that, claiming it "unfairly discriminates against people who own EVs."
6. Barred from raising premiums on the source of the problem, insurance companies--understandably unwilling to lose money--raise insurance premiums on ALL buildings with underground garages.
7. biden's woke handlers congratulate themselves on "saving duh Erf" by nullifying yet another reason NOT to own an EV--by forcing all Americans to pay the true cost of owning an EV.

8. biden's woke Democrat staffers laugh.

Posted by: sf44 at December 20, 2024 01:27 PM (X9nCc)

309 It is remarkable how the environmentalists can demand that users of fossil fuels or chemicals put all sorts of filters and devices to capture almost every molecule of possibly harmful compounds. But they then look at a burning EV sending clouds of toxic substances and have no comment.

Posted by: George V at December 20, 2024 01:56 PM (ugbqN)

310 Park all those EV under the UN facility then wait

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