Congress Votes Itself a Pay-Raise Because It's Doing Such a Crackerjack Job

The 40% pay raise was hidden in a 1,000-page plus continuing resolution.

Their salaries went from $174,000 -- which is already pretty good -- to $243,000.

That is a big, big raise. Not too many people get a 40% company-wide raise.

The last-minute continuing resolution was only needed because Congress did not do its job and pass a budget during regular order.

In other words, they did not do their jobs, and they didn't do their jobs so well that they figured they were owed a 40% pay raise.

1500 PAGE SPENDING BILL, INCLUDES A PAY RAISE FOR CONGRESS@CharlieKirk11 is frustrated, he wants to know who wrote this bill. He explains what this CR includes and how they are trying to bankrupt future generations "with trillions of spending." pic.twitter.com/JFlQZiuyb2
— Real America's Voice (RAV) (@RealAmVoice) December 18, 2024

Dick Durbin defends the pay raise, of course.

It is amusing that his defense is that the media is giving itself raises despite losing "half" of its audience, so why shouldn't Congress also take a completely-unearned pay raise?

Democrat Senator Durbin tells @cnn reporter: “Half of your viewers aren’t there any more and you’re still getting the same paycheck.” Holy crap. pic.twitter.com/ZPXBhFngnC
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) December 18, 2024

Dick Durbin says it’s a good thing there’s a pay raise for Congress in the spending bill.

Congress has less than 22% approval.

They should get a pay cut. pic.twitter.com/Ikyvp78k6e
— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) December 18, 2024

Raise your hand ✋️ if you want every (R) in the house to Vote NO on the CR bill

If Mike Johnson passes this CR with the help of Democrats, he needs to be removed as Speaker in the next Congress... this ends now

pic.twitter.com/ExeaNeU13z
— @Chicago1Ray 🇺🇸 (@Chicago1Ray) December 18, 2024

Posted by: Ace at 01:14 PM

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1 Dick Durban! Before he dicks you

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 18, 2024 01:14 PM (Zwu9O)

2 Grifting ain't easy Ace

Posted by: Bete at December 18, 2024 01:15 PM (LX4y3)

3 Well, if you want the best people, you have to pay them.

Posted by: Stateless at December 18, 2024 01:15 PM (jvJvP)

4 The DOGE can now fire them all.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:15 PM (pMi6S)

5 I'm not saying a word about this one because I'm not trying to piss off jwest.

Posted by: XTC at December 18, 2024 01:15 PM (UnA8+)

6 I don't think Durbin's comment about the media was the burn he thinks it was. If we could, we'd zero them out. Let's try that with NPR.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (xCA6C)

7 Democrat Senator Durbin tells @cnn reporter: �Half of your viewers aren�t there any more and you�re still getting the same paycheck.� Holy crap.

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The elite fighting amongst themselves about how they have it great and deserve it when the hoi-polloi have struggled for years is...

*chef's kiss*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

8 The 40% pay raise was hidden in a 1,000-page plus continuing resolution.

--

I'd bet $100 this corresponds with the actual inflation rate.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (hIXll)

9 I went into the wrong line of work.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (2UnvF)

10 Pretty wild to see Durbin taking a shot at his mouthpiece.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (LkLld)

11 Sadly the increase in pay won't cause congress critters to not sell themselves for access.

Posted by: Bete at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (LX4y3)

12 40 is a pretty big bump.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (HsOwE)

13 No pay for congresscritters until they PASS a balanced budget. Make it part of their nutritious breakfast.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

14 Some in the media are taking pay cuts. How many in Congress are taking pay cuts?

Posted by: Kamala at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (nLwaa)

15 Ace, this would be a good place to update the pst with the hilarious "DIGE Days" Tv show trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmleMzR5CcY

Excellent AI Deep Fakes of Elion and Vivek.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (pMi6S)

16 Jeez, these retards are tone deaf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (HsOwE)

17
You fuck up, you move up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (y9nCu)

18 It doesn't matter who the Speaker is.

They will all betray you.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (Z4rv8)

19 Willowed:

by: m at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (VnUSN)

365 The largest, most capacious gallows ever to be constructed in the world being built and used repeatedly on the West Front of the US Capitol building would also help America, but I sadly don't see that coming either.
Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:11 PM (CJnWf)

Since you mentioned gallows - the infamous midget gallows present on J6 were almost certainly built and transported to the scene by FBI assets. The next day the FBI seized it and had it torn apart and dumped in a landfill, so that no forensic evidence as to its manufacture could ever be found.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (zQ3t+)

20 DIGE = DOGE

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (pMi6S)

21 16 Jeez, these retards are tone deaf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 18, 2024 01:17 PM (HsOwE)

I saw Tone Deaf Retards front for Stone Temple Pilots...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (ynpvh)

22 Mike Johnson is Speaker only because somebody has to fill the job, and he's as good as any.

Republicans do not control the House.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (ts9hS)

23 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who thinks nothing will ever happen at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (DobEs)

24 19 Willowed:

by: m at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (VnUSN)

365 The largest, most capacious gallows ever to be constructed in the world being built and used repeatedly on the West Front of the US Capitol building would also help America, but I sadly don't see that coming either.
Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:11 PM (CJnWf)

Since you mentioned gallows - the infamous midget gallows present on J6 were almost certainly built and transported to the scene by FBI assets. The next day the FBI seized it and had it torn apart and dumped in a landfill, so that no forensic evidence as to its manufacture could ever be found.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 18, 2024 01:18 PM (zQ3t+)

FIB manufactured gallows for a Gov't manufactured "insurrection"...fitting.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (ynpvh)

25 The largest, most capacious gallows ever to be constructed in the world being built and used repeatedly

GASSSSS

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (e8Sk7)

26 Who was the poster here who used to argue that we'd get better people in congress if we only paid them more?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (Q0kLU)

27 We have a constitutional amendment that says that pay raise will not go into effect until after the 2026 election.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (GD2xa)

28 Does nobody see the incredible insanity in allowing employees -- any employees -- to vote for and approve their own fucking pay raises?

"Yea, I think I did a great job this year, I'll just give myself a 40% raise."

How can it possibly be legal for Congress to increase their own pay unilaterally? Why not just vote themselves million-dollar salaries?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (iFTx/)

29 The dumbest people in America.

Pulling down $250k a year Plus a Federal Benefits Package.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (j6KoD)

30 Democrats vs Media!

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Posted by: Dr. T at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (s+1tz)

31 28 How can it possibly be legal for Congress to increase their own pay unilaterally? Why not just vote themselves million-dollar salaries?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (iFTx/)

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TECHNICALLY...it's not unilateral.

The executive signs off on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

32 The "Lame Duck" phase of the 4-year governmental cycle in when the most heinous and nefarious stuff goes on. Always happens. Outrageous mass pardons. Voting massive pay riases for self. Sabotage. Etc. etc. It's because they think America is weary of the election, looking forward to future administration, distracted by the hplidays, so "no one is paying any attention."

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (pMi6S)

33 It will take pitchforks and torches to get these useless sacks of shit in Congress to do what is right.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (Oq/TM)

34

we are leeks

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (D7oie)

35 midget gallows

13 small steps

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (e8Sk7)

36 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TIME.

All pay raises for ANY federal elected official must be voted on at a Presidential Election and passed by the voters. Don't care if it's electoral or popular vote.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2024 01:20 PM (wtvvX)

37 Jeez, these retards are tone deaf.

But what does this tell you?
1) Durbin hasn't read the CR the House has in front of it, and yet will have to vote upon it soon, or:
2) He's lying out his ass about not knowing, but got caught with his pants down, unprepared with a suitable lie.

My guess is 2).

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (xCA6C)

38 12 40 is a pretty big bump.

gotta keep up with inflation

Posted by: anonymous representative at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (v3pYe)

39 Do Senators receive a higher salary than reps?

Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (v6JzV)

40 Raise your hand ✋ if you want every (R) in the house to Vote NO on the CR bill “

It’s kinda sad that he doesn’t realize that a solid majority of the current House republicans *love* this bill. They love lying about how much they love it, too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (zQ3t+)

41 I hope Trump vetoes the ever-living SHIT out of this.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (wtvvX)

42 To be fair, it's been 15 years since they had a pay raise, so an adjustment to pay is long overdue.

But to be even fairer, they've been hot garbage for as long as I can remember, so that adjustment should be downward by at least 90%

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (zaW1R)

43 It’s 40% but over 15 years. The lay raise was in 2009. So it averages out to about 2.4% a year compounded.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (L6sxK)

44 I bet Staff Salaries are going up as much or more.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (j6KoD)

45 The only way to fix congressional pay is to amend the Constitution, stating that each legislator, their housing, their work expenses, and their staffs, are paid by the state they represent.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (VNX3d)

46 Don't give L A city council any ideas.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (e8Sk7)

47 FIB manufactured gallows for a Gov't manufactured "insurrection"...fitting
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That's how you know this was planned well in advance of J6. Do you know how long it takes the govt to build anything? Probably cost an easy $1b too.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (Zwu9O)

48 Why am I not surprised. If only the rest of us were able to vote a pay raise for ourselves paid for by other people we forcibly take our cut of their money.
It's good to be king.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (p4SQR)

49 40 Raise your hand ✋ if you want every (R) in the house to Vote NO on the CR bill “

It’s kinda sad that he doesn’t realize that a solid majority of the current House republicans *love* this bill. They love lying about how much they love it, too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (zQ3t+)

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At least 150 will vote for it.

Out of the 65 or so who vote against it, more than half would have voted for it if the passing of the CR depended on their votes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

50 Do Senators receive a higher salary than reps?
Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:21 PM (v6JzV)

It is the autonomy and socials status that is the real draw

Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (D7oie)

51 20 DIGE = DOGE

dirge > dige

Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (v3pYe)

52 You know how that saying goes; "you don't hate the media enough?"

You don't hate congress enough either. We need a constant reminder that this sort of shit is their standard operating procedure. All of the pissing and moaning about how tanking the CR would be "bad" for Republicans is utter horseshit.

Stopping this sort of abuse requires sacrifices. Not hand wringing about what "might" happen down the road.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (Q4IgG)

53 Dick Turdstain

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (wDJaI)

54 "If Mike Johnson passes this CR with the help of Democrats, he needs to be removed as Speaker in the next Congress... this ends now"

Evil dies tonight!

Posted by: That last terrible Halloween movie at December 18, 2024 01:22 PM (TN0g+)

55 Just tryin to better myself over here, boss!

Posted by: Eyepatch McCain at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (2UnvF)

56 Who was the poster here who used to argue that we'd get better people in congress if we only paid them more?

Possibly me. However, that assertion is coupled with a requirement that the voters hold the now better-paid legislators responsible for doing their damn jobs. It's the same argument I make for teachers. Fire the incompetent 50% and give the money to the good ones.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (xCA6C)

57 This will do wonders for their approval rating. Shit service always deserves a pay raise. Hell, Congress should NOT have the authority to give themselves a pay raise.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (pohLc)

58 47 FIB manufactured gallows for a Gov't manufactured "insurrection"...fitting
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That's how you know this was planned well in advance of J6. Do you know how long it takes the govt to build anything? Probably cost an easy $1b too.

so... we should be able to subpoena the environmental impact statements?

Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (v3pYe)

59 @CharlieKirk11 is frustrated, he wants to know who wrote this bill.

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I'll take 'Who are K Street and Beijing?" for $64 trillion, Alex!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (Nwlaf)

60 Fuckers.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (oUlN5)

61 It appears that Hakeem Jeffries is Speaker.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (63Dwl)

62 and so it continues

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's continuing at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (aD39U)

63 8 The 40% pay raise was hidden in a 1,000-page plus continuing resolution.

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I'd bet $100 this corresponds with the actual inflation rate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (hIXll)

In the DC area, it does. I'd expect other areas might be even worse.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (exHjb)

64 57 This will do wonders for their approval rating. Shit service always deserves a pay raise. Hell, Congress should NOT have the authority to give themselves a pay raise.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (pohLc)

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"Congress sucks. My congressperson is great."
-90% of America

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)

65 You know who should be paying Congresscritters' salaries?

The states what sent them.

Then you can tie compensation to job performance.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (hB7mE)

66 It's not like voting themselves a 40% pay raise is going to negatively effect their approval rating.

Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (j6KoD)

67 Well, if you want the best people, you have to pay them.
Posted by: Stateless at December 18, 2024 01:15 PM (jvJvP)

at this point, i'm trying to figure out how much better we'd be with the worst people...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (nXhwP)

68 These people have no idea of how much they are banking on a Christian society that encourages people to stay their own hands out of moral obligation to God.

The day that the last remnant of morality leaves the population, the blood flows in the most horrific of ways.

Posted by: Vlad at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (jIg8o)

69 We have a constitutional amendment that says that pay raise will not go into effect until after the 2026 election.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (GD2xa)

It only took 200+ years to get that one ratified. Was proposed by the 1st Congress.

Posted by: Doof at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (jgdZo)

70 Liars, Crooks, and Thieves.

Posted by: davidt at December 18, 2024 01:24 PM (i0F8b)

71 25 The largest, most capacious gallows ever to be constructed in the world being built and used repeatedly

GASSSSS
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty

What -- no helicopters? I'm disappointed in you people.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (pMi6S)

72 To look at it differently - Congress is threatening a government shutdown if they don't get a raise.....

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (oUlN5)

73 Whoever votes for it needs to have their ass primaried big time and kicked the hell out in the next election

Posted by: keena at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (RiTnx)

74 "The only way to fix congressional pay is to amend the Constitution, stating that each legislator, their housing, their work expenses, and their staffs, are paid by the state they represent."

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But that pre-supposes that state governments give a crap about fiscal responsibility. They don't, anymore than the federal government does. All that matters to them is that sweet, sweet, sweet government-sponsored graft.

Posted by: Crusader at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (TN0g+)

75 I'd bet $100 this corresponds with the actual inflation rate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (hIXll)

In the DC area, it does. I'd expect other areas might be even worse.

Over what time period?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (xCA6C)

76 You'd think they're making enough off of all the insider trading they really wouldn't need a raise?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (p4SQR)

77 Talk about being tone deaf.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (P845J)

78 Adjusted for inflation pay has been in the $250k ballpark since the 1960s.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (L6sxK)

79 Durbin's fake surprise even transcends DiNiro levels of phoning it in

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (wBaIH)

80 74 But that pre-supposes that state governments give a crap about fiscal responsibility. They don't, anymore than the federal government does. All that matters to them is that sweet, sweet, sweet government-sponsored graft.
Posted by: Crusader at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (TN0g+)

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Before states got addicted to federal spending, it could have worked.

The addiction started decades ago, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

81 Fuckers.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (oUlN5)

Good to see you, WD -- Hope you are doing well!

Posted by: Doof at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (jgdZo)

82 As I understand it, the bill also excepts members of congress from Obamacare.

For that reason alone, it must be rejected.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Hvq7a)

83 I'd bet $100 this corresponds with the actual inflation rate.
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In the DC area, it does. I'd expect other areas might be even worse.

Over what time period?
Posted by: Archimedes

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I'd assume Biden's term when they broke the economy, but I'm willing to go into 2020 when the same people broke the economy.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (hIXll)

84 How does congress make a 22% approval into a 15% approval?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (pohLc)

85 That is a big, big raise. Not too many people get a 40% company-wide raise.
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It's almost like Congress understands what the real inflation rate is.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Dnobf)

86 > Well, if you want the best people, you have to pay them.
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Or, maybe, revolt and remove the whole lot of them by force.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Q4IgG)

87 It is amusing that his defense is that the media is giving itself raises despite losing "half" of its audience, so why shouldn't Congress also take a completely-unearned pay raise?
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IOW, *those* commies are getting raises why shouldn't we?

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (yHYaX)

88 82 As I understand it, the bill also excepts members of congress from Obamacare.

For that reason alone, it must be rejected.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (Hvq7a)

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Constitutional amendment:

Any federal statute passed with penalties triples for those in Congress who break the statute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

89 Ace: ...Because It's Doing Such a Crackerjack Job

************

I'm old enough to remember when Cracker Jack prizes were made of plastic and just the right size to lodge in a six-year-old kid's epiglottis.

Posted by: muldoon at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (991eG)

90 Pay them whatever the median wage is in the district they represent.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (hB7mE)

91 >72 To look at it differently - Congress is threatening a government shutdown if they don't get a raise...

In other words, they'll go on strike.

Posted by: davidt at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (i0F8b)

92 75 I'd bet $100 this corresponds with the actual inflation rate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:16 PM (hIXll)

In the DC area, it does. I'd expect other areas might be even worse.

Over what time period?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:25 PM (xCA6C)

Honestly, probably 2 years total - post midterm election to post Trump election - aka, when the Biden spending and budgets got fully out of control and the illegals became a tidal wave of effect...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (exHjb)

93 90 Pay them whatever the median wage is in the district they represent.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (hB7mE)

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With free housing in DC.

A dorm. A shared dorm. No private rooms

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

94
Hey the longshoreman or whatever mafia owned racket is getting a 40% increase, right?

Fair is fair ya mooks.

Posted by: Auspex at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (j4U/Z)

95
gotta keep up with inflation
Posted by: anonymous representative

There is NO inflation! At least until January 21 when it starts again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (63Dwl)

96 Let them have the pay raise, but ban stock trading.

Watch them scream.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (uxCna)

97 From @shipwreckedcrew

There is a provision in the CR that requires House members to be advised by companies such as Google, X, etc., if they get a grand jury subpoena for records of members, and gives them the power to quash such subpoenas.

The provision includes language that it depended Ed or preempts and statute, court rule or regulation to the contrary.

This is to block any investigation of the J6 Comm or other Congressional committees or members.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (TL7UX)

98 "Congress sucks. My congressperson is great."
-90% of America
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have a congressperson? I can vote for or against them every 2 years? No kidding, I had no idea.
- A third of the population

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (Zwu9O)

99 Congress Voted Themselves a 40% Raise
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Is it too late to make this falsehood the Lie of the Year?

Posted by: Politifact at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (yHYaX)

100 66 It's not like voting themselves a 40% pay raise is going to negatively effect their approval rating.
Posted by: garrett at December

Which reinforces how much they care about this particular metric.

Posted by: Piper at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (pZEOD)

101 Cool, my rep has come out against the CR.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (tT6L1)

102 @elonmusk
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11m
Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (LkLld)

103 Is Congress hiring? Because I'm pretty sure that I could do the job.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (XeU6L)

104 I had been under the impression that this country was formed as a result of the excesses of the monarchy, and the undue burden those atrocities placed on the subjects of the realm.

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 01:28 PM (dCxaZ)

105 These people have no idea of how much they are banking on a Christian society that encourages people to stay their own hands out of moral obligation to God.

The day that the last remnant of morality leaves the population, the blood flows in the most horrific of ways.

Agree. This is a point that Sen Fauxahontas should ponder when she makes proclamations about 'pushing people too far'.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (P845J)

106 uhh...

there's something even worse in this bill if you can believe it! from el gato Malo:

"chief among them is the “congress full immunity act,” a set of new self-bestowed privileges so egregious as to beggar belief and constitutional compliance alike.
...
it’s buried in an innocuous section (605) ostensibly about the treatment of electronic services. it’s made to sound like some sort of boring IT issue. it’s not."

(remove space in link below)

https://open.substack.com/ pub/boriquagato/p/congressional-immunity

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (Pv3Rg)

107 a 40% raise in these times of bidenflation is a real stick up the azz of the American peoples

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (dCxaZ)

108 As I understand it, the bill also excepts members of congress from Obamacare.

We're returning to the pre-1994 Congress, where Congress routinely exempted themselves from laws that everyone else had to follow.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (uxCna)

109 I'm going to talk to my boss about raising my pay that much.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (lXoJ5)

110 They know that they're not going to get another raise for the next four years so they're front-loading it all.

Shut it all down. Fuck them with a salt-encrusted flaming cactus.

Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (CJnWf)

111 I’m of the mindset that congressional pay should be a lot higher. Make it $1M. It’s chump ch age in the grand scheme of things given the trillions spent.

But if pay were something like $1M a lot of successful people would want to run for congress. And it would cut down on corruption. If you’re making $1M a year, you’re less likely to risk that to take bribes.

This is why now most of congress is really rich people who don’t care about pay. But someone making $300k is unlikely to give up a career to run for congress to make $200k. These are the people you want in there, is t it? The ambitious and successful people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (L6sxK)

112 Cool, my rep has come out against the CR.

Mine is Gerry Connolly. Gee, I wonder how he'll vote.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (xCA6C)

113 short version - they are immune from having to produce evidence. this is retroactive despite any existing rulings

imagine!

they're trying to CYA before the cavalry finally gets in

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

114 4 The DOGE can now fire them all.
Posted by: zombie

102 @elonmusk
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11m
Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!
Posted by: JackStraw

I nailed it.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (pMi6S)

115 93 90 Pay them whatever the median wage is in the district they represent.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM (hB7mE)

With free housing in DC.

A dorm. A shared dorm. No private rooms
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:27 PM

Frank luntz has room for a bunch of bunk beds in his apartment.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (p4SQR)

116 I like the idea of a midget gallows. Where their toes can just reach the ground, barely.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (aD39U)

117 91 >72 To look at it differently - Congress is threatening a government shutdown if they don't get a raise...

In other words, they'll go on strike.

Posted by: davidt at December

That would be outstanding.

Posted by: Piper at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (pZEOD)

118 Putting "fact" in your name makes you automatically believable.

Like when a company tells you out of nowhere they are "honest", run.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:30 PM (yHYaX)

119 Hodgkinson's Senate correspondent zings the unsuspecting MSM with a humdinger. No casualties were reported.

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (rj6Yv)

120 Be funny if the CR passed only to have it challenged in court and a stay put on the CR.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (tT6L1)

121 The bribes for $1M government employees would just need to be higher amounts. There would be no change in bribery because the people bribing the officials still need to accomplish their goals and money is easy for them to come by.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (hIXll)

122 Without entering into a discussion regarding the wisdom/shortcomings of the Social Security system, I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

123 so... we should be able to subpoena the environmental impact statements?

Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:23 PM (v3pYe)

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"Unfortunately, those were all lost in a fire along with the J6 'pipe bombs' & video footage, ALL Secret Cervix text messages from J6, Obama's birth certificate & college transcripts, Hillary's 'missing' emails & smashed blackberries, the Steele Dossier, the drones over New Jersey, and the Ark of The Covenant.

AND we require a 40% pay raise as well ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (eAdlW)

124 Rep. Mike Collins @RepMikeCollins · Dec 17
And here we go. x.com/RepMikeCollins…

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
Vote no.

https://tinyurl.com/4uz8s5k4
photo of the 6"-deep spending bill -- thick as a brick of shit

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (hovnC)

125 Public "servants".

Posted by: DJ at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (uosPt)

126 Mine is Gerry Connolly. Gee, I wonder how he'll vote.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yeah, I'm in that POS' district, too. Pisses me off. I so wanted Heng Cao to oust him.

Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:32 PM (v6JzV)

127 Congress is asshoe

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 18, 2024 01:32 PM (U81Si)

128 Looting the Treasury might as well grab some for yourself

Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2024 01:32 PM (AYz4A)

129 Pray I do not alter the deal further.

Posted by: Darth Congressman at December 18, 2024 01:32 PM (i0F8b)

130 That is a big, big raise. Not too many people get a 40% company-

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How many people have gone 15 years at the same company without a raise? Answer: zero

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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:32 PM (L6sxK)

131 Here's a suggestion: On our tax returns, have a line for what we want to pay Congress. What we think they're worth.

Somehow I don't think the 535 crooks will go for that.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (1bNHn)

132 a 40% raise in these times of bidenflation is a real stick up the azz of the American peoples
Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (dCxaZ)

They're not called "congress" for nothing.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (yHYaX)

133 Don't they get enough money from their insider trading, bribes, and graft?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (U81Si)

134 Show of hands: how many of you think things are going to be any different next year?

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (Ij2uN)

135 Congress is asshoe

I really, really hope that poor guy, while getting his fingernails pulled out by the PRC, said "worth it".

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (xCA6C)

136 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (L6sxK)

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At this point, people don't run for Congress for the pay. They know there are huge political machines that exist to protect them regardless of what they do.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (oUlN5)

137 And so it begins...

Posted by: The person who always thinks it's just beginning at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (DobEs)

138 >>> How many people have gone 15 years at the same company without a raise? Answer: zero

How many people do a horrible job and get bad performance reviews for 15 years and still have the job?

Posted by: DJ at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (uosPt)

139 Without entering into a discussion regarding the wisdom/shortcomings of the Social Security system, I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)
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I had some dimwit try to argue COLA's made up for inflation. He didn't respond when I told him he knew better and was lying. SS recipients have really taken a haircut the last 4 years.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)

140 I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.
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I prefer Luftwaffe Limonade!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

141 We have to pass it to find out how big our raise is.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (yHYaX)

142 136 At this point, people don't run for Congress for the pay. They know there are huge political machines that exist to protect them regardless of what they do.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (oUlN5)

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The vast majority of Congress is terrible at that game, to be honest.

It's only the top 10% that manage it. Committee chairs and up, essentially.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

143 So thirsty..

Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (WTtpy)

144 Democrat Senator Durbin tells @cnn reporter: “Half of your viewers aren’t there any more and you’re still getting the same paycheck.” Holy crap.

he says this 'cause he knows cnn salaries are paid by govt funds as a result of the network being an IC op

the sly dog

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (dCxaZ)

145 Congressional Pay Raises are restricted by the 27th Amendment. Never heard of it? See below. By my reading it prohibits any raise in this CR from going into effect for about 23 months. Is that what the CR puts into law? I doubt it. Whig, what's your take?

Twenty-Seventh Amendment:
No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Discussion: The Twenty-Seventh Amendment prevents laws that modify Members of Congress’ compensation from taking effect until after an intervening congressional election. The Supreme Court has not decided any cases interpreting the Twenty-Seventh Amendment. Nonetheless, the unusual circumstances of the Amendment’s ratification, which occurred more than 200 years after Congress initially proposed it, have raised important questions about Article V’s process for amending the Constitution.

Posted by: Gref at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (aBgBM)

146 At this point, people don't run for Congress for the pay. They know there are huge political machines that exist to protect them regardless of what they do.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (oUlN5)

True. But if pay were better I think that would change.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (L6sxK)

147 111 I’m of the mindset that congressional pay should be a lot higher. Make it $1M. It’s chump ch age in the grand scheme of things given the trillions spent.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:29 PM (L6sxK)
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Absolutely the fuck not. If you had ever worked on or around Capitol Hill and seen just how little actual work these assholes do, you would never type those words with a straight face.

Every swinging dick in the USA would be killing each other (literally) to get a guaranteed job for two years that pays a million a year plus expenses...where you are "at work" for generally three days a week, except when you take your 3x annual month-long vacations where you don't do shit. And, when you're "at work" you have a staff of minions that do all the actual work while you're gladhanding with your donors and other asshole Congressfaggots.

Just, hell fucking no.

Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (CJnWf)

148 If this outrageous - even by today's standards - pay raise spittle in the faces of the electorate succeeds, it will be a useful reminder of how little has changed.

Speed bumps are welcome on the steep downhill trajectory, so Trump is a godsend. Making him more than a speed bump will require an enormous additional amount of work.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (1m82a)

149 Constitutional amendment:

Any federal statute passed with penalties triples for those in Congress who break the statute.
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And any statue which includes exemptions for government employees, elected or not, is also invalid.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (Dnobf)

150 How many people have gone 15 years at the same company without a raise? Answer: zero

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Now do offices, housing, vehicles, etc. AND making $174K for working about six weeks out of the year.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (hIXll)

151 I'm calling 'trial ballon' on this. Phone and email the shit outa these hogs!! Bannon throwing down today...

Rat Pack Phone number
1-202-224-3121

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (wDJaI)

152 26 Who was the poster here who used to argue that we'd get better people in congress if we only paid them more?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 18, 2024 01:19 PM (Q0kLU)

It was jwest. The argument being that it's too much of a cut in pay for it to be worth it for wealthy businessmen to run unless they're billionaires.

Posted by: XTC at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (UnA8+)

153 Without entering into a discussion regarding the wisdom/shortcomings of the Social Security system, I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

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Well, at least actual job growth for Americans over the past 4 years was neither None nor continually reported as a lie.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (eAdlW)

154 40% pay raise?? They clearly believe their opportunities to loot the treasury are coming to a close.

Posted by: Is the end nigh??? at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (d3XVU)

155 If the CR is passed is this how the Uniparty kneecap Trump's economic policy though 2026?

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (iLKAj)

156 WTF. These bastards have mortgaged the nation to the hilt, conspired to put US citizens in prison, sent billions to Ukraine in what seems like an attempt to get WWIII rolling, trashed our border, imported illegals that now total about 15% of the population, can't or won't give us a balanced budget, called half the country Nazis and Fascists, and handed over their duties to the Executive branch via administrative rules. This is for starters. No raise until Congress starts running the nation for the benefit of US citizens with actual positive and measurable results that show this to be the case. Otherwise putting them in a pit filled with pig excrement should be under discussion.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (e+6P0)

157 I'm going to make a very unpopular opinion here, which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.

DC is a very expensive town these days, and they generally need to maintain two households, if you count the one back in their district. They spend maybe six months actually working, then they need to spend a bunch of time fundraising for the next election. Getting them off that cycle and focusing on legislating would be an improvement.

Singapore, for instance, pays their legislators very well, in exchange for an efficient government. The hybrid system that we have doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (svMI/)

158 142 136 At this point, people don't run for Congress for the pay. They know there are huge political machines that exist to protect them regardless of what they do.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (oUlN5)

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The vast majority of Congress is terrible at that game, to be honest.

It's only the top 10% that manage it. Committee chairs and up, essentially.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, what is the net worth of the bottom 10% in congress? I'm guessing they wouldn't trade with me.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (1bNHn)

159 We're doomed.

Posted by: The person who always thinks we're doomed at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (DobEs)

160 We need to eliminate all this corruption, or let me in on it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (aD39U)

161
"Our Democracy" now seems to be the elect and their technocrats raiding your house, bank account, property and savings and keeping whatever they find.

Posted by: Auspex at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (j4U/Z)

162 I only made $174K a year for the past six years and now I'm worth $44M
- Any given member of Congress

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (hIXll)

163 149 And any statue which includes exemptions for government employees, elected or not, is also invalid.
Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2024 01:35 PM (Dnobf)

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Much more better:

Any statute which includes exemptions for government employees, elected or not, is also invalid and leads to exile by trebuchet in the direction of the country of the writer's choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

164 I can sure use the money, ow-ow-OW...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 18, 2024 01:37 PM (c0tJM)

165 153 Without entering into a discussion regarding the wisdom/shortcomings of the Social Security system, I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 18, 2024 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

Most actual employees have done much worse over the same 4 year period...

There's a reason Trump won in a landslide, even with the fraud baked in...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 18, 2024 01:37 PM (exHjb)

166 Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan.

Paul Ryan.

There, I did it!

Posted by: mrp at December 18, 2024 01:37 PM (rj6Yv)

167 This was not written in the last few weeks.

It's been months in drafting.

Why do we need to keep the government "open" for the holidays?

When there is absolutely no downside to a shutdown?

Especially as Biden and Democrats will be blamed?

This is f'ing retarded.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (R3Yln)

168 Don't they get enough money from their insider trading, bribes, and graft?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 18, 2024 01:33 PM (U81Si)

They need the raise to demonstrate where all their money is coming from.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (yHYaX)

169 I hype that none of the figures in government are ever adjusted for inflation. Then. Once every 10 or 15 years there’s a massive jump.

It’s like the SALT deduction was set at $10k. And it’s still $10k. At some point it will be increased to $15k. But why not just increase it by a few hundred every year instead? Set to increase with whatever SS increases by. Same with the minimum wage. And congressional pay. All of it. Instead we go through these episodes where everyone’s line whaaaaaaaa 40% pay increase???!?!?? When it could have just been a 2% automatic increase over the past 15 years and ended up in the same place without all the drama.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (L6sxK)

170 158 Well, what is the net worth of the bottom 10% in congress? I'm guessing they wouldn't trade with me.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (1bNHn)

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Backbenchers have prestige and a six-figure salary which is good enough, plus a government pension after 6 years in the job that goes up with every term after that.

So, yeah, even if they can't play the stock market game like Nancy Pelosi, they would never trade with you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

171 New sign on the door, but the same ole buttfuck.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (PHUO7)

172
Who was the poster here who used to argue that we'd get better people in congress if we only paid them more?

I think that was jwest.

If I'm wrong bro, please accept my apologies.

The problem with that argument is that Congress gets their money from insider trading, bribes and skimming from their campaign funds. Salary is just pocket change for these fuckers.

The real compensation is power and legions of comely young coeds willing to bang Congressmen 50 years their senior.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (y9nCu)

173 I'm going to make a very unpopular opinion here, which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.

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I'm willing to do $300K/year in exchange for no insider trading, a Congressional dorm, a bus line to and from work, and mandatory eight hour public sessions at home districts every two weeks.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (hIXll)

174 I'm going to make a very unpopular opinion here, which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.

I agree, but make the penalties for violating insider trading laws truly draconian, and forbid working for a lobbying firm for 10 years.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (xCA6C)

175 I thought we were supposed to be sick of winning.

Posted by: This doesn't feel like winning at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (DobEs)

176 If the CR is passed is this how the Uniparty kneecap Trump's economic policy though 2026?
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A continuing resolution, by it's very nature, is designed to keep inflation running high.

Posted by: Methos at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (Dnobf)

177 173 I'm willing to do $300K/year in exchange for no insider trading, a Congressional dorm, a bus line to and from work, and mandatory eight hour public sessions at home districts every two weeks.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:38 PM (hIXll)

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And they must dress as clowns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

178 There's more than that in it too. Apparently Congress is voting itself some sweet, sweet subpoena squashing ability.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (zrlyb)

179 Without entering into a discussion regarding the wisdom/shortcomings of the Social Security system, I will only point out that SS Cola for 2025 is a whopping 2.5%.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Whenever someone mentions COLA, it reminds me of my late uncle. He did a great impression of Claude Pepper bitching about the old folks' COLA.

Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (v6JzV)

180 So 40% is the real COLA. SSI should get the same increase.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (YeGMU)

181 I want my surgeon to be rich. But there is no reason for a stupid congressfag to be rich.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (yHYaX)

182 guarantee you Crenshaw will vote for this monstrosity

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (V6W16)

183 They said it was a COLA because you can’t attract good people to Congress at the current salary.

So- does that mean they’re admitting they suck?

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (PHUO7)

184 DC is a very expensive town these days, and they generally need to maintain two households, if you count the one back in their district. They spend maybe six months actually working, then they need to spend a bunch of time fundraising for the next election. Getting them off that cycle and focusing on legislating would be an improvement.

Singapore, for instance, pays their legislators very well, in exchange for an efficient government. The hybrid system that we have doesn't cut it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (svMI/)

Build dorms for Congress at taxpayer expense then. They can all bunk together for the three whole nights a week most of them are in DC.

Legislators do not need a $2m pied-a-terre three blocks from the Capitol.

Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (CJnWf)

185 Singapore, for instance, pays their legislators very well, in exchange for an efficient government. The hybrid system that we have doesn't cut it.

omg lol

so you give Hakeem Jeffries or AOC $300k and they are suddenly going to be efficient or even moderately capable lawmakers?!?! do you not see the difference between the US and Singapore?!?! we have many, MANY "rotten boroughs"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (Pv3Rg)

186 The only way you're going to this bill stopped is to find some little piddling ass part that upsets some leftist grievance group.

Like make a big stink about they're only increasing subsidies to gay trans minority immigrant chihuahuas by 200% and not 800% like they should!! It's really a 75% cut!!!!! And have the left pitch a fit to block it with signs and puppets and crap.

Rs are all completely useless eaters.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (Y6IkP)

187 guarantee you Crenshaw will vote for this monstrosity
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (V6W16)

He's eyeing it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (aD39U)

188 The rule of thumb has been that people feel they should be paid 25% more than they are paid. These assholes think they're worth a multiple of that.

Note the 40% increase is just base pay. They rake in far more than that.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (wBaIH)

189 178 There's more than that in it too. Apparently Congress is voting itself some sweet, sweet subpoena squashing ability.

that was in the el gato Malo thing I referenced.

it's incredible. sneaky bastards

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (Pv3Rg)

190 It's good to be in charge of the chicken coop.

Posted by: Fox at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (i0F8b)

191 I thought we were supposed to be sick of winning.
Posted by: This doesn't feel like winning at December 18, 2024 01:39 PM (DobEs)

Yeah this is Trump's fault. Well spotted.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (yHYaX)

192 With Trump's Inflation being so high they needs a pay raise too...

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (0rdRL)

193 [snip]

Singapore, for instance, pays their legislators very well, in exchange for an efficient government. The hybrid system that we have doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 18, 2024 01:36 PM (svMI/)

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Fair points.

Another argument is that in theory CongressCritters would be less likely to accept bribes and/or become corrupted -- or especially co-opted by foreign governments and enemies.

In practice & reality, OTOH ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:41 PM (eAdlW)

194 omg lol

so you give Hakeem Jeffries or AOC $300k and they are suddenly going to be efficient or even moderately capable lawmakers?!?! do you not see the difference between the US and Singapore?!?! we have many, MANY "rotten boroughs"
Posted by: BlackOrchid

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Make it $500k and AOC doesn’t become a congress critter. Because someone competent would run instead. That’s the point. Instead that competent person is running a business making $700k a year and would never consider giving it up to make $170k a year as a member of congress.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (L6sxK)

195 184 Build dorms for Congress at taxpayer expense then. They can all bunk together for the three whole nights a week most of them are in DC.

Legislators do not need a $2m pied-a-terre three blocks from the Capitol.
Posted by: ballistic at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (CJnWf)

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Put the dorm in the Capitol's basement.

Give Congress vouchers for lunch and dinner at the Capitol eatery and require Congresscritters to be at their desks, either in their office, on the floor, or in committee rooms, 16 hours a day.

Communal showers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

196 I have constituents willing to kill for me. You think I dont deserve a raise?

Posted by: Dick Durbin at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (zCanN)

197 Build dorms for Congress at taxpayer expense then. They can all bunk together for the three whole nights a week most of them are in DC.

Hot bunking?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (xCA6C)

198 And they must dress as clowns.

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Add this to the list, please.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - You can only be a feminist in a 1st world patriarchy where men allow it at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (hIXll)

199 guarantee you Crenshaw will vote for this monstrosity
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (V6W16)

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National security!

Posted by: Eyepatch McCain at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (2UnvF)

200 Everything an individual member of congress does can be done virtually over Zoom. Make them live and stay in their districts, constantly surrounded by their "garbage" constituents, only to visit DC for ceremonial purposes like the SOTU inaugurations. Turn the Capitol Building into a museum and occasional event space.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (bNf8H)

201 Johnson is a fucking dweeb. I saw him in Trump’s booth at the Army Navy game. He looks like a midget next to Trump, Musk and Hegseth. I’m pretty sure Tulsi is taller than him. I hope they sat him at the kids table, sellout.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:43 PM (PHUO7)

202 199 guarantee you Crenshaw will vote for this monstrosity
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 18, 2024 01:40 PM (V6W16)

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National security!
Posted by: Eyepatch McCain at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (2UnvF)

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We had to vote for Republicans no matter what or Democrats would run roughshod over American rights and increase power in DC.

We need Republicans doing that instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

203 Another argument is that in theory CongressCritters would be less likely to accept bribes and/or become corrupted -- or especially co-opted by foreign governments and enemies.

In practice & reality, OTOH ...
Posted by: ShainS

Corruption will always be part of government. But there are ways to minimize it. And a well paid congress is one of those ways.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 01:43 PM (L6sxK)

204 169> Exactly.

Posted by: just saying at December 18, 2024 01:43 PM (Uy/WF)

205 I'm going to tell my boss that I am voting myself a 40% raise and see how it goes

Posted by: DJ at December 18, 2024 01:44 PM (uosPt)

206 I support the nomination of Stacy Abrams to be the Ambassador to Ethiopia and Eritrea...

Posted by: Joe Bribum at December 18, 2024 01:44 PM (FB0Cj)

207 200 Everything an individual member of congress does can be done virtually over Zoom. Make them live and stay in their districts, constantly surrounded by their "garbage" constituents, only to visit DC for ceremonial purposes like the SOTU inaugurations. Turn the Capitol Building into a museum and occasional event space.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (bNf8H)

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Split the difference.

180 nights a year, members of Congress must check into the Congressional dorm and sleep there.

The other 185 nights of the year, they must spend in their residences in the districts they represent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

208 Also, the CR apparently also blocks any investigation into the J6 Committee.

Posted by: XTC at December 18, 2024 01:44 PM (UnA8+)

209 I wonder how the average American who just voted for Trump feels about the premise that $170k and lifetime gold plated benefits is not enough so they need a raise to $240k.

Not a good look, assholes.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:44 PM (PHUO7)

210 We don't need "competent" people in Congress, we need loyal ones. They do absolutely nothing special.

Hence the fantabulously unskilled social climbing asslicking boobs who get there.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (yHYaX)

211 I bet they can negotiate the salary down to 240K!

Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (QTCRF)

212 With all their insider trading why would anyone in Congress need a raise? Drop their pay 1% a day until they pass a budget where spending equals 2019 budget $,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$!

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (daXoU)

213
Damn- how cool is it to vote yourself a 40% raise

Boy howdy! did I take tho wrong career path

Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (/7KEl)

214 Trump must brutalize Johnson going forward.. does he have it in him.. more LBJ, less GWB…

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (PCK5/)

215 I support the nomination of Stacy Abrams to be the Ambassador to Ethiopia and Eritrea...
Posted by: Joe Bribum

She'd take care of their hunger problem, that's for sure.

Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (v6JzV)

216 And they must dress as clowns.
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EXCEPT on first Tuesdays, when they must wear sackcloth and blot their faces with ashes, and ring a bell and cry out "elected representative, Unclean!!! UNCLEAN!!!" when in public.

Posted by: Humility training at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (d3XVU)

217 208 Also, the CR apparently also blocks any investigation into the J6 Committee.

+++

Doubtful it's limited to only that investigation.

Posted by: davidt at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (i0F8b)

218 Yes, there's a 40% raise in there, but there's also a .001% increase for the VA and I will always vote to take care of our vets!

Posted by: Eyepatch McCain at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (2UnvF)

219 Build dorms for Congress at taxpayer expense then. They can all bunk together for the three whole nights a week most of them are in DC.

Hot bunking?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (xCA6C)

Just erect Quonset huts, with one shared bathroom per hut. Just like in the old movies showing basic training. Three separations: male, female, and nuts.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (VNX3d)

220 215 I support the nomination of Stacy Abrams to be the Ambassador to Ethiopia and Eritrea...
Posted by: Joe Bribum

She'd take care of their hunger problem, that's for sure.
Posted by: Bulg at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (v6JzV)

Whole lotta fatback, for sure…

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (PCK5/)

221 She'd take care of their hunger problem, that's for sure.

She'd eat them?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (xCA6C)

222 Should the CR pass (I assume it will), Trump should demand a public ceremony of Biden signing it as proof that he actually signs it.

Again, I don't think Biden is signing anything. I think it's all autopen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

223 217 208 Also, the CR apparently also blocks any investigation into the J6 Committee.

+++

Doubtful it's limited to only that investigation.

it is not.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (Pv3Rg)

224 who gets more time off , school teachers or members of Congress ?

Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (QTCRF)

225 so these assholes will be pulling down a little under a quarter million dollars a year

C'mon SMOD- aim for the big white dome

Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (/7KEl)

226 216 And they must dress as clowns.
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EXCEPT on first Tuesdays, when they must wear sackcloth and blot their faces with ashes, and ring a bell and cry out "elected representative, Unclean!!! UNCLEAN!!!" when in public.
Posted by: Humility training at December 18, 2024 01:45 PM (d3XVU)

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I thought that was implied. Was that not implied?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

227 Another argument is that in theory CongressCritters would be less likely to accept bribes and/or become corrupted -- or especially co-opted by foreign governments and enemies.
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First of all no it wouldn't. More money would give them even more power to do so and they would use it. Second of all the answer to bribery and corruption would be punishing bribery and corruption instead of rewarding it.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (yHYaX)

228 I’m failing to see the downside of shutting the government down until the new Congress is seated.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (PHUO7)

229

OMG, I feel so bad for Dick Durbin.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (et1vG)

230 Want radical, I'll give you radical congressional reform: 1 6 year term and it's a lottery system to serve in Congress. Everyone old enough to vote is eligible to be drafted to serve in Congress. Congressional aids, limited to 2, also drafted, but, they serve 1 12 year term.

And it's a one and done system. Deferrals granted in extreme circumstances, such as ailing parent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (tT6L1)

231 Today I signed into law the Yugo Act will force everyone in California to Drive Electric Yugo's. With that said all members of the CA Government will be exempt from this law.

Posted by: Governor Neusense at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (2/uQy)

232 225 so these assholes will be pulling down a little under a quarter million dollars a year

C'mon SMOD- aim for the big white dome
Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:46 PM (/7KEl)

And LOTS of sweet sweet perks unavailable to us Proles…

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (PCK5/)

233 I see Rod Blagojevich just did the Rogan show.
I didn't watch, but the name reminded me of the old flaming hairy skulls of yore.

Posted by: irright at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (SchQD)

234 They shouldn't have to show up for work. They are Federal employees.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (YeGMU)

235 I’m failing to see the downside of shutting the government down until the new Congress is seated.
Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (PHUO7)

It would provide a lot of information to DOGE about critical functions and staff.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (VNX3d)

236 I saw the Asslicking Boobs open for the Grateful Dead at The Hard Rock.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (+/8PC)

237 Now that 243K is ON TOP of all the graft they can take in

Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (/7KEl)

238 228 I’m failing to see the downside of shutting the government down until the new Congress is seated.

I for one would have a very merry Christmas if they do it.

SHUT IT DOWN!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (Pv3Rg)

239
Trump isn't take a presidential salary.

He could shame them, but you have to have a conscience to feel shame.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (+oR7L)

240 IOW, *those* commies are getting raises why shouldn't we?

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:26 PM (yHYaX)

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It's almost as if commies are the most money-grubbing and -obsessed greed-whores in their respective societies.

I saw the Money-Grubbing and -Obsessed Greed-Whores open for ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (eAdlW)

241 I am not Bloody Dead yet !!!!!!!!!!!

222 Should the CR pass (I assume it will), Trump should demand a public ceremony of Biden signing it as proof that he actually signs it.

Again, I don't think Biden is signing anything. I think it's all autopen.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 18, 2024 01:49 PM (G3151)

242 This crap is why people want term limits. If only 20% of congress was going to see the pay raise because they were getting kicked back to the real world there wouldn't be the incentive to give struggling taxpayers the middle finger like this. Yes, I know, voters should show up in the primaries and impose term limits themselves.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 18, 2024 01:49 PM (UKUm3)

243 Another argument is that in theory CongressCritters would be less likely to accept bribes and/or become corrupted -- or especially co-opted by foreign governments and enemies.
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Think of the amount of cash these people end up with and ask yourself why they never get content and stop. More money in their freaking wage packet is not the answer!

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:49 PM (yHYaX)

244 Amusingly enough, congressional pay raises are ordinarily automatic and have been for decades, probably 1970s. They wouldn’t want to be seen doing things like this.

They really have no fucking clue, do they?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (YovzQ)

245 "Before our very nice president signs this, I want to talk to him for a minute in front of the cameras. How are you doing, Mr. President? Well? You handle all of this press with such ease. So easy. You know that about you?"
-Trump

*smiles wide-eyed*
"Thank you."
-Biden

"I just have one question. Do you know what you're signing?"
-Trump

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

246 Stacy Abrams gots back !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (G3151)

247 The more people signing the bill, the more crap they find. I mean, the damn printed bill is taller than that shrimp, Johnson.

This is exactly why people hate Congress.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (PHUO7)

248 157 I'm going to make a very unpopular opinion here, which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.

DC is a very expensive town these days, and they generally need to maintain two households, if you count the one back in their district.

sounds more to me like they should be living in a dormitory.

Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (v3pYe)

249 Any federal statute passed with penalties triples for those in Congress who break the statute.
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And any statue which includes exemptions for government employees, elected or not, is also invalid.
Posted by: Methos

Any federal statute that exempts any member of Congress from its provision shall result in the immediate execution of any Congresscritter who voted for it.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:51 PM (hB7mE)

250 248 DC is a very expensive town these days, and they generally need to maintain two households, if you count the one back in their district.

sounds more to me like they should be living in a dormitory.
Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (v3pYe)

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And that DC should be less populous.

Send all the department HQs to inner cities of blue shitholes like Detroit and East St. Louis.

That'll help with the housing price issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

251 Bring out your brain-dead Biden's......

Bring out your brain-dead Biden's......

Bring out your brain-dead Biden's......

Bring out your brain-dead Biden's......

Bring out your brain-dead Biden's......

Posted by: Franklin Stein at December 18, 2024 01:51 PM (G/z2K)

252 Smart to announce this while the bodies in Wisconsin are still warm.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (yHYaX)

253 sounds more to me like they should be living in a dormitory.
Posted by: anachronda

Barracks

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (hOUT3)

254 which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.

How do you propose to stop them from doing any of that even with the higher salary?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (hB7mE)

255 How many people have gone 15 years at the same company without a raise? Answer: zero

If they ran a company like they run the country the business wouldn't have existed beyond the five year point. Good luck getting raises out of a company that doesn't exist any more.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (lUFok)

256 SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (W2Pud)

257 And in spite of the middle finger to taxpayers aspect its not completely outrageous. If congress payed for this by cutting their staffs and actually doing some of the congressional job themselves I'd be fine with it, since they do have to live part time in DC and the 174K had been in place since 2009.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (UKUm3)

258 256 SHOW ME THE MONEY!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 18, 2024 01:52 PM (W2Pud)

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I understood that reference.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

259 The problem with that argument is that Congress gets their money from insider trading, bribes and skimming from their campaign funds. Salary is just pocket change for these fuckers.

The real compensation is power and legions of comely young coeds willing to bang Congressmen 50 years their senior.
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Foley, you know that I have lost an eye, and have a right to be blind sometimes.

I really do not see the signal.

Posted by: eyepatch mccain at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (hovnC)

260 Another argument is that in theory CongressCritters would be less likely to accept bribes and/or become corrupted -- or especially co-opted by foreign governments and enemies.

--

o_O

This has to be trolling.

Our politicians send money to foreign governments to lobby/corrupt the politicians that sent them the money. There is no amount that is too large to prevent this type of immorality. Only jail or other punishments.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Women, does your job make you feminine and inspirational or stressed and brittle? at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (Y5LCy)

261 Some place they can think. A concentration camp.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (YeGMU)

262 I’m failing to see the downside of shutting the government down until the new Congress is seated.

I for one would have a very merry Christmas if they do it.

SHUT IT DOWN!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 01:48 PM (Pv3Rg)

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Then on Day Two the R's can deliver a budget with at least 10% cuts across the board for #47's signature.

LET'S GET THIS THING ON!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (eAdlW)

263 All of our fine high minded ideas being floated here will affect their behavior exactly-0- they are all in on it. It’s a club, and you are NOT in it.

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (PCK5/)

264 re: Social Security and inflation

and they keep ramping up the max taxable earning for SS withholding, stealth tax raise:

2008 $102,000
2009-2011 $106,800
2012 $110,100
2013 $113,700
2014 $117,000
2015-2016 $118,500
2017 $127,200
2018 $128,400
2019 $132,900
2020 $137,700
2021 $142,800
2022 $147,000
2023 $160,200
2024 $168,600
2025 $176,100

Posted by: brak at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (25k9m)

265 Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Women, does your job make you feminine and inspirational or stressed and brittle? at December 18, 2024 01:53 PM (Y5LCy)

To be fair I cut off where Shain said in practice it doesn't.

But my argument was there is not even a theory where it would.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (yHYaX)

266 Wait, this CR is for all of next year?

WHAT THE FUCK? Totally strips Congress and the President of the Power of the purse for an entire year?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (QAkQ3)

267 266 Wait, this CR is for all of next year?

WHAT THE FUCK? Totally strips Congress and the President of the Power of the purse for an entire year?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 01:54 PM (QAkQ3)

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3 months. Until March.

But, we'll just get another CR in March.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

268 Today I signed into law the Yugo Act will force everyone in California to Drive Electric Yugo's. With that said all members of the CA Government will be exempt from this law.
Posted by: Governor Neusense at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (2/uQy)

You should have read it better. CA Government officials may use electric Yugos, with 1 mile cords. All other vehicular travel must be powered by humans, horses, oxen, or goats.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 01:55 PM (VNX3d)

269 Besides their exorbitant salary, do Congress critters still get free postage and all expense paid world-wide travel junkets?
And free hip replacements in Germany?

Posted by: Cosda at December 18, 2024 01:56 PM (AlxoO)

270 Do they have electric oxen now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 18, 2024 01:56 PM (YeGMU)

271 40% kinda flies in the face of DOGE

we have a congress of whores

Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (/7KEl)

272 Hump day done

Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (AYz4A)

273 Do they have electric oxen now.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 18, 2024 01:56 PM (YeGMU)
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Personally, I'm holding out for electric sheep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

274 I like having congress wear clown suits as long as they are festooned with the names and logos of their largest donors, private and corporate, in exchange for $240K salary and as long as that salary is negatively indexed to the growth of the Federal debt until it reaches zero. As a base line I would use the 1800 debt as a base line.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (e+6P0)

275 DC is a very expensive town these days, and they generally need to maintain two households, if you count the one back in their district.

sounds more to me like they should be living in a dormitory.
Posted by: anachronda at December 18, 2024 01:50 PM (v3pYe)

Make Congress housing just like Military housing... make a district they can live in while in DC, that belongs to the States themselves, with the States funding it.

Then, like the White House, or VPs housing, when out of office they move out.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (QAkQ3)

276 273 Personally, I'm holding out for electric sheep.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

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I bet they don't even dream.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

277 200 Everything an individual member of congress does can be done virtually over Zoom. Make them live and stay in their districts, constantly surrounded by their "garbage" constituents, only to visit DC for ceremonial purposes like the SOTU inaugurations. Turn the Capitol Building into a museum and occasional event space.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
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That is something that would not require an amendment to do. Could be done simply via a change of rules.

Posted by: whig at December 18, 2024 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

278 >Besides their exorbitant salary, do Congress critters still get free postage and all expense paid world-wide travel junkets?

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AND AND free coffee and handjobs

Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:58 PM (/7KEl)

279 277 That is something that would not require an amendment to do. Could be done simply via a change of rules.
Posted by: whig at December 18, 2024 01:58 PM (ctrM5)

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But Congress would lose prestige.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

280 Say,, could you fine folks start a go-fund me to help out during my time of need? ow-ow-OW!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (c0tJM)

281 I don't think Congress deserves any additional money. We have people in Congress who spend their entire adult lives there so obviously they either think they are making plenty now or they realize they are too stupid to make this kind of money in the private sector and most are.

The only way I would agree to increased pay is a completely different way of selecting representatives and I use the term select on purpose. If they are going to get paid like rockstars then they should be rockstars and we will never get that when we let objectively stupid people help chose them.

AOC is complete smooth brain. She wasn't even a good bartender but now she deserves $274K/year? Yea, no.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (LkLld)

282 Almost all the information available to Congress is available to the public. There are actually firms who specialize in scooping up all the committee agendas and documents, then trade off that information. That’s why it’s not insider trading 99.9% of the time. There have actually been numerous accusations where congressman have pulled out those agendas and materials as proof.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (PHUO7)

283 267

3 months. Until March.

But, we'll just get another CR in March.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

This is what they always do - brazenly. And we bitch about it for a little while until they throw out some distraction.. then they throw some red meat to the rubes to get them fired up, and forgetful… wash, rinse, repeat… we are easy to herd.

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (PCK5/)

284 Kiss me, Cheney!

Posted by: eyepatch mccain at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (hovnC)

285 274 I like having congress wear clown suits as long as they are festooned with the names and logos of their largest donors, private and corporate, in exchange for $240K salary and as long as that salary is negatively indexed to the growth of the Federal debt until it reaches zero. As a base line I would use the 1800 debt as a base line.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram
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Good examples of incentives. FWIW, the Constitutional Convention argued over how to pay Congress critters. A few, like Ben Franklin, wanted no pay (not clear on expenses) for legislators.

Posted by: whig at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

286 I bet they don't even dream.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
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But, have they seen things you wouldn't believe?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (tT6L1)

287 Say,, could you fine folks start a go-fund me to help out during my time of need? ow-ow-OW!
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (c0tJM)

Sorry. I'd like to set up a Go-Fine-Me, so I can charge you $20 for your stupidity, and $20 for scaring me with your looks.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 02:00 PM (VNX3d)

288 286 I bet they don't even dream.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
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But, have they seen things you wouldn't believe?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 01:59 PM (tT6L1)

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I don't know, I can imagine quite a bit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

289 The needed the raise because of the massive inflation that they recently caused.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 18, 2024 02:00 PM (b4o9z)

290 271 40% kinda flies in the face of DOGE

we have a congress of whores
Posted by: Don Black. Message: just park out back at December 18, 2024 01:57 PM (/7KEl)

Social Security gets 2.5% at a time of 10% plus inflation... while Congress gives Fed workers 2%...

although the military pay raise for lower enlisted, negotiated in a REAL SPENDING BILL (HINT HINT) is really a good thing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 02:01 PM (QAkQ3)

291 You complain about us giving ourselves a 40% pay raise and then complain about us not doing our jobs?! Be consistent- that IS our job!

Posted by: Congress at December 18, 2024 02:01 PM (FHiG2)

292 A Yugo isn't a Lada car.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 18, 2024 02:01 PM (hovnC)

293 US, Canada, Australia and Singapore have the highest paid legislatures. All over $150k a year.

In Europe, Spain and Poland are at the bottom, barely cracking $40k a year.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 18, 2024 02:02 PM (L6sxK)

294 A few, like Ben Franklin, wanted no pay (not clear on expenses) for legislators.
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Ah, the failed Slattern Clause.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 18, 2024 02:02 PM (hovnC)

295 Someone let speaker Johnson know that he didn't receive the memo.

We're aren't falling for this shit anymore.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 18, 2024 02:02 PM (15364)

296 This is genius! If you have any old or broken electronics you want to get rid of, just pack it up neatly in its old box and put it on your porch. You get rid of the TV and some broke-dick thief gets a surprise.

http://tiny.cc/nby1001

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:02 PM (Odg76)

297 288 286 I bet they don't even dream.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher
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But, have they seen things you wouldn't believe?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1)

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I don't know, I can imagine quite a bit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

I know.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 02:03 PM (VNX3d)

298 295 Someone let speaker Johnson know that he didn't receive the memo.

We're aren't falling for this shit anymore.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 18, 2024 02:02 PM (15364)

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Well, I'd say most of "we", as in the commentariat here, hasn't fallen for it since TARP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 18, 2024 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

299 I would propose that every fed employee, with the exception of active duty military, gets a 20% pay cut.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (2UnvF)

300 1 Health Insurance Subsidy: Congress members purchase their insurance through an Affordable Care Act exchange, and 72% of their premiums are covered by a federal subsidy.
2 Lifetime Health Insurance: Upon retirement, Congress members are eligible for lifetime health insurance under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program.
3 Pension: Congress members receive a pension based on their age, length of service, and salary. The pension value can be up to 80% of their final salary, which is $174,000 per year. At an 80% rate, that’s a pension benefit of $139,200.
4 Thrift Savings Plan: Congress members participate in the Thrift Savings Plan, a 401(k)-like investment vehicle with fees of just 0.03%.
5 Death Benefits: If a Congress member dies while in office, their surviving family receives at least one year’s worth of salary, or a minimum of $174,000.
6 Retirement Allowance: Upon retirement, Congress members receive an annual allowance, which varies depending on their position. For example, House members receive a $900,000 annual allowance for staff and $250,000 for travel and office expenses, while Senators receive a budget close to $3.3 million.
7 Free and Reserved Parking:

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (PHUO7)

301 What day is today Piglet?

https://shorturl.at/KTJu7

My favorite day, said Pooh.

Posted by: Candidus at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (dsKux)

302 I would also like a pony.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (2UnvF)

303 Lol, headline : "Pornhub to pull out of Florida." (over age verification).

now, why would they object to that ....????

Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (QTCRF)

304 Sort of a boob thread…

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (PCK5/)

305 8 Flight Perks: Congress members have various flight perks, making it easier for them to complete required travel.
9 Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS): Congress members participate in FERS, which provides a monthly retirement annuity based on their age, years of federal service, and highest three consecutive years of salary.
10 Taxpayer-Funded Pension: Congress members are eligible for a generous pension that pays two to three times more than pensions offered to similarly-salaried workers in the private sector.

Posted by: Truthbomb at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (PHUO7)

306 SYRIAN despot Bashar al-Assad traded his country's military secrets with Israel in exchange for safe passage out of the country, it has been claimed. The murderous tyrant allegedly handed over coordinates for weapons depots which Israel is now using to drop bombs on Syrian targets in a cowardly last act.

Posted by: SMOD at December 18, 2024 02:05 PM (RHGPo)

307 303 Lol, headline : "Pornhub to pull out of Florida." (over age verification).

now, why would they object to that ....????
Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 02:04 PM (QTCRF)

Will be interesting to see where all of this goes…

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 02:06 PM (PCK5/)

308 which is that in exchange for not being able to trade on inside information, or work for a lobbying firm, or doing the things that our current congresscritters do, they should make a lot more money - call it $300K.
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How do you propose to stop them from doing any of that even with the higher salary?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 18, 2024

***
Seppuku?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 18, 2024 02:06 PM (J2vNu)

309 Term limits now.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at December 18, 2024 02:07 PM (bXvrr)

310 There's also a provision hidden in the SPENDING bill which allows all the Congressional offices and staffers to "quash or modify" to send any legal request or order to obtain electronic evidence.

Title VI, Sec. 605, "Treatment of electronic services"

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2024 02:07 PM (zMQny)

311 Ah, the failed Slattern Clause.
Posted by: andycanuck
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Something like that. Some states after Independence did the no pay thing and that was true of many colonial assemblies and I cannot remember if members of Parliament were paid at the time unless they held a sinecure (some governmental office) from the King.

One of the longest serving Prime Ministers (and probably the most corrupt) was Robert Walpole who made his family fortune from scumbaggery during the Georgian period in England.

Posted by: whig at December 18, 2024 02:07 PM (ctrM5)

312 If we pick the worst republican official and try to hang him, would communicate our political leanings to the rest of them.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 18, 2024 02:08 PM (O88H/)

313 Congress acting like they're afraid someone or something might just rain on their grifting parade. Or uncover some activities detrimental to democracy.

Certainly not the type of behavior an upstanding political body would engage in.

In other societies this behavior might lead to open revolt.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 18, 2024 02:08 PM (Q4IgG)

314 The Grand Old Pussies will do everything possible to give Congress back to the Democrats.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 18, 2024 02:09 PM (qUkBO)

315 A boston tea party type hanging.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 18, 2024 02:09 PM (O88H/)

316 Second of all the answer to bribery and corruption would be punishing bribery and corruption instead of rewarding it.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 01:47 PM (yHYaX)

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That goes without saying; I guess I'm so cynical given the ubiquitous breadth & depth of Swamp Bribery & Corruption, Sedition, and Treason -- that that no longer seems possible -- at least not for a very long time barring some cataclysmic event(s).

Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 02:10 PM (8IFP/)

317 I would propose that every fed employee, with the exception of active duty military, gets a 20% pay cut.

How about back to the salary as it was when they first went into government?

Gosh, guys, inflation's really a bitch, isn't it? If only...

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2024 02:10 PM (zMQny)

318 Read and weep bitches. Arkansas has the nation's best drivers, while Masshole has the worst and DC has the most drunks.

https://tinyurl.com/ywvdhvsm

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2024 02:10 PM (pohLc)

319 Pornhub to pull out of Florida." (over age verification).

I wish they'd pull out of everywhere. A place that allows the sexualization of children on their site deserves to be utterly crushed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (ricGD)

320 > Lol, headline : "Pornhub to pull out of Florida." (over age verification).

I believe they've already pulled out of TX, UT, VA, AR, and MS over age verification laws.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (Odg76)

321 There's also a provision hidden in the SPENDING bill which allows all the Congressional offices and staffers to "quash or modify" to send any legal request or order to obtain electronic evidence.

Title VI, Sec. 605, "Treatment of electronic services"
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2024 02:07 PM (zMQny)

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Too bad Liz and Adam are no longer members of Congress.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (2UnvF)

322 Mike Johnson loved going to the UFC fight with Trump and the Avengers, the Army-Navy game too, where he was featured in those photos...

now he will come to understand that the Kewl Kidz table brings with it a price of admission.

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (dCxaZ)

323 320 > Lol, headline : "Pornhub to pull out of Florida." (over age verification).

I believe they've already pulled out of TX, UT, VA, AR, and MS over age verification laws.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (Odg76)

Interesting monitoring going on..

Posted by: tubal at December 18, 2024 02:11 PM (PCK5/)

324 Too bad Liz and Adam are no longer members of Congress.

oh but they made it retroactive! this part - claimed to be "just techie stuff" - was put in to protect the J6 team, including those two. not just them but it definitely is meant to cover them

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (Pv3Rg)

325 Ah, the failed Slattern Clause.
Posted by: andycanuck

/clears throat, starts singing...

Here comes Slattern Clause
Here comes Slattern Clause
Right down Capitol Laaannnneeeee..

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (QAkQ3)

326
Look, if we don't give them more money they'll start taking bribes. And that would be unprecedented.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (dxSpM)

327 A place that allows the sexualization of children on their site deserves to be utterly crushed.

don't look at us!

Posted by: Hollywood at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (25k9m)

328 I wish they'd pull out of everywhere. A place that allows the sexualization of children on their site deserves to be utterly crushed.

Jordan Peterson interviewed a woman who was instrumental in having PH delete 90% of its content due to it showing minor children and non-consensual activity

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (dCxaZ)

329 RedState has an article up about CNN's conversation with Dick Durbin in which Durbin professes to know nothing about the pay hike in the CR. Bet that so-called ignorance won't stop him from voting for it if the CR passes the House.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 18, 2024 02:12 PM (oCS0o)

330 This is, actually, a real stupid move. It gives the incoming administration a talking point that basically nullifies the rest of the bill. All that needs to be focused on is that a bunch of politicians gave themselves a 40% raise while the rest of the US deals with their failures.

Face, the general constituency of the US is significantly laced with mental midgets. They can understand this issue. They can understand that it's not fair. And, they can understand why someone would oppose it. So, Trump not only gets the opportunity to run rampant on this, he gets to enlist unlikely new supporters to his side.

Stupid.

Posted by: Orson at December 18, 2024 02:13 PM (dIske)

331 Not with a Bang but a Whimper

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 18, 2024 02:13 PM (63Dwl)

332 Crooked. All the way down

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2024 02:14 PM (xcxpd)

333 Oh, wow. Grok says this is the list of states that pornhub has blocked due to age verification limits:

AL, AR, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, MS, MT, NE, NC, OK, TX, UT, VA

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76)

334 306 SYRIAN despot Bashar al-Assad traded his country's military secrets with Israel in exchange for safe passage out of the country, it has been claimed. The murderous tyrant allegedly handed over coordinates for weapons depots which Israel is now using to drop bombs on Syrian targets in a cowardly last act.
Posted by: SMOD at December 18, 2024 02:05 PM (RHGPo)

Wait, it is cowardly to give the enemy of your enemy (the guys who just threw you out of your country) target info?

Israel is not targeting Syrian targets, that government is gone, they are targeting ISIS and Al Q targets, just like we are.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 02:15 PM (QAkQ3)

335 > I wish they'd pull out of everywhere. A place that allows the sexualization of children on their site deserves to be utterly crushed.

Grok says they're already out of 17 states. Only 40 more to go!

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:16 PM (Odg76)

336
AL, AR, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, MS, MT, NE, NC, OK, TX, UT, VA
Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76)

__________

Children in these states will remain uneducated, it seems.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 18, 2024 02:16 PM (dxSpM)

337 Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76)

Good for those states. I'm sure the founders of Pornhub are rolling in money. They can afford to lose those states.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2024 02:16 PM (0+MrZ)

338 Wait, it is cowardly to give the enemy of your enemy (the guys who just threw you out of your country) target info?

Israel is not targeting Syrian targets, that government is gone, they are targeting ISIS and Al Q targets, just like we are.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 18, 2024 02:15 PM (QAkQ3)

This is a good point.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 18, 2024 02:18 PM (lg881)

339 Children in these states will remain uneducated, it seems.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 18, 2024 02:16 PM (dxSpM)
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Ahem. "Culturally Enriched."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 18, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)

340 cataclysmic event(s).
Posted by: ShainS -- The Cartels Have Killed More Americans Than All Other Terrorist Orgs Combined at December 18, 2024 02:10 PM (8IFP/)

That would be terrible.

Posted by: ... at December 18, 2024 02:18 PM (yHYaX)

341 new thread upstairs about teen girl killer

Posted by: kallisto at December 18, 2024 02:18 PM (dCxaZ)

342 > Children in these states will remain uneducated, it seems.

Sarcasm?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:18 PM (Odg76)

343 Here's a tour of Kamala's home town of Oakland:

http://tiny.cc/mdy1001

Spoiler: It's a craphole.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 18, 2024 02:19 PM (Odg76)

344 Dems will help you with your perversions if you allow yourself to be blackmailed.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 18, 2024 02:21 PM (uTwcY)

345 I wish they'd pull out of everywhere. A place that allows the sexualization of children on their site deserves to be utterly crushed.

Are you talking about PornHub or the other 33 states?

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2024 02:22 PM (zMQny)

346 Dems will help you with your perversions if you allow yourself to be blackmailed.

Or, if you're a D, they will reward you if you absolutely love the stuff.

Posted by: Hillary at December 18, 2024 02:23 PM (lCA8w)

347 NOOD Madison Killer

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 18, 2024 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

348 SYRIAN despot Bashar al-Assad traded his country's military secrets with Israel in exchange for safe passage out of the country, it has been claimed. The murderous tyrant allegedly handed over coordinates for weapons depots which Israel is now using to drop bombs on Syrian targets in a cowardly last act.

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cowardly according to whom?

Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 02:29 PM (QTCRF)

349 I have constituents willing to kill for me. You think I dont deserve a raise?
Posted by: Dick Durbin at December 18, 2024 01:42 PM (zCanN)

You take one word away from that first sentence and I'll bet the number goes up astronomically.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 18, 2024 02:31 PM (FCbAQ)

350 Pulling information from shite sources like the UK "The Sun", is not the way to go.

Posted by: runner at December 18, 2024 02:31 PM (QTCRF)

351 Take a look sometime at the Compensation Table in the Annual Report of some company of which you are a shareholder. For the five top executives, their Total Compensation figure includes the value of lots of things that go beyond the base salary. Congress should be required to publish a similar Comp Table for each of its members. It might not change anything, but it's quite an eye opener.

Posted by: Mike Zee at December 18, 2024 02:49 PM (Pa9da)

352 LET THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN UNTIL JANUARY TWENTIETH!!!

There's nobody in the Oval Office who belongs.
And whoever the hell it is writing orders on the stationery is doing a terrible job.
This Congress cannot be trusted.

Shut it down and let it stay shut until we can get a mentally competent grown-up in there.

Posted by: Ronzoni at December 18, 2024 02:59 PM (tof4A)

353 socks off

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 18, 2024 03:10 PM (hovnC)

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