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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Dec 21Edible Gardening/Putting Things By Starting to feel like you've already had too much rich holiday food? Turning toward salads? Tomatoes have been pretty awful around here - even those grown in greenhouses. Have you had any good experiences? We've had some good avocados and some bad ones. We should probably talk again about endive and escarole - classical winter greens. How about some old-fashioned lettuces, or some newer ones bred for dramatic color or climate adaptation? Get out those catalogs. Tom Thumb is 150 years old. A miniature Bibb/Butterhead type. My Mom and I used to take a bottle of vinegar and a salt shaker out into the garden to munch on it. Cos. This is a very small, green romaine type. One of the very best tasting lettuces we’ve encountered. A superb heat-tolerant variety that is sure to please! Famous among chefs and home gardeners alike! Bibb/Butterhead. Translating to “The Marvel of Four Seasons,” this famous French butterhead is a standard for flavor and quality! A true marvel both in the kitchen and the vegetable patch. A pre-1885 heirloom; crisp and tender. The fine flavored leaves have a reddish color, and it can be grown almost year round in many locations. The ruby-rose leaves form a distinctly attractive rosette head, but can also be enjoyed as young baby greens. 30-48 days to maturity (30 for baby greens) Leaf. Originally Devil’s Ear comes from Abundant Life Seed Foundation. It has very large, spreading, loose-leaf heads. Leaves are large, wavy-margined, and suffused in burgundy. We love its nutty, crisp texture and bitter-free flavor. Slow to bolt, and it stands a very long time in the garden. Leaf. Reputed to be absolutely the darkest red lettuce in existence, making it tops for anthocyanin (antioxidant) content as well! Leaf lettuce with wavy to frilly leaf margins and very crisp, waxy leaves! Excellent bolt resistance, and good cold tolerance for a late fall to winter crop. Recommended as a cutting type for baby greens production or cut-and-come-again harvesting. We feel, along with our friend William Woys Weaver, that this variety is destined to become a classic, and it certainly deserves it! A rich source of potassium and vitamin A. Ornithogalum thyrsoides - Chincherinchees or ‘tjienks’ belong to the genus Ornithogalum and are members of the Hyacinth family that includes indigenous garden favourites like Eucomis, Lachenalia and Veltheimia. There are more than 120 species of Ornithogalum and the name is derived from the Greek words ornis and gala, meaning ‘bird-like’ and ‘white’ respectively. In Roman times, bird’s milk was used to describe anything special or admirable. Ornithogalums have a disjunctive distribution in Africa, the Middle East, southern Europe and western Asia, but most species occur in Southern Africa – mainly in the winter rainfall regions of the Northern, Western and Eastern Cape. There are also a number of summer-growing and evergreen species such as Ornithogalum Saundersiae (Giant Chincherinchee) and Ornithogalum Longibracteatum (Pregnant Onion).There's a lot more information about the plants than you see in most American gardening magazines. More at the link. Blooms may last 6 weeks when cut. The plant is very poisonous. Don't you love the name "Chincherinchee"? "Ornithogalum Thyrsoides is seen to great advantage when grown in rock garden pockets inter-planted with the mauve, late spring-flowering annual, Senecio Elegans (Wild Cineraria)." The latter is recognized as a potentially invasive weed in coastal sand dunes in California. Want to take a Magic Elevator ride to the North Pole?
Hi Katy, Just back from some early winter maintenance at our vacation home in northern Israel. The gardener was at work the other day and managed to save some birds of paradise for Mrs. BD to take back home to Jerusalem. Regards from Jerusalem, Biden's DogA fascinating flower. It's the City Flower of Los Angeles. From Don in Kansas: While most of the yard is dormant, one of the daffodils got the dates mixed up and is blooming now. Unless the temperature gets extremely cold soon, I should have flowers in the garden for Christmas. If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
I came to chew bubble gum and putter, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 21, 2024 01:04 PM (guGkK) 2
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:05 PM (fwDg9) 3
I had some leaves still to finish gathering then cold, wind and now Winter happened. Guess if I don't get them they won't go anywhere.
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:08 PM (fwDg9) 4
Seeing all the photos makes me wish I didn't have a black thumb. I could probably even kill a plastic plant.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 21, 2024 01:14 PM (VNX3d) 5
The Santa Experience is a very impressive project! I commend its creators for their imagination and their amazing carpentry skills!
*tosses blow-molded light-up Frosty in the dumpster* Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 21, 2024 01:18 PM (guGkK) 6
Your photos are a highlight every week!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 21, 2024 01:19 PM (zQ3t+) 7
Eat your greens.
-Frank Z. Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2024 01:26 PM (jgmnb) 8
Thread of the world's most beautiful towns and villages at Christmas
Many of those places in Europe are worth seeing on any day Posted by: javems at December 21, 2024 01:27 PM (8I4hW) Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2024 01:27 PM (W/lyH) 10
Took mail out, not fit for man or beast with winds
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:30 PM (fwDg9) 11
My puttering will be in the basement painting miniatures
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:31 PM (fwDg9) 12
I love some of the names of those lettuces.
Posted by: KT at December 21, 2024 01:34 PM (xekrU) 13
When living in Susanville, I learned that the ice crystals in the branches are called "pogonip," a Northern Paiute word meaning "white death."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2024 01:35 PM (fzQGK) 14
My puttering today, tomorrow and Monday is making peanut brittle.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2024 01:36 PM (fzQGK) 15
Puttering today: Rigging license plate lights that look OEM. Guy ran into the back of me, Progressive has refused to settle, truck can't pass inspection without the lights, lights cost $300.00+ at the dealer. No way I'm paying.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2024 01:37 PM (XeU6L) 16
Saw a small sport's up car with Christmas lights all over it yesterday in my travels about the county
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:39 PM (fwDg9) 17
Puttering in the garage today.
My favorite room in the house. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 21, 2024 01:39 PM (dg+HA) 18
Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2024 01:35 PM
Paiute in Susanville, CA? "Pogonip" is a good word. Posted by: KT at December 21, 2024 01:41 PM (xekrU) 19
Hey honey! Look what I just found!!
*drags in blow-molded light-up Frosty he found in the dumpster.* Posted by: Cicero's neighbor down the street at December 21, 2024 01:43 PM (dg+HA) 20
Wow! The photos in the gardening thread are always great but today's are spectacular. Think I'll be trying a few sketches from them.
Posted by: JTB at December 21, 2024 01:43 PM (yTvNw) 21
Horse manure reference so on-topic??
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h JUST - Biden has signed the stopgap funding bill. The shutdown has officially been averted. Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 21, 2024 01:48 PM (hovnC) 22
BD,
The bird of paradise is a beautiful flower. Nice choice. - Its the most "exotic" plant growing in our garden. All other tree, flowers and plants are more appropriate to the mountain climate and location of our home in northern Israel. I expect it to be a few months before we see some new flowers blossom toward the start of spring. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 21, 2024 01:50 PM (1xs6C) 23
Oh well, another Trillion in the hole
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 01:54 PM (fwDg9) 24
16 Saw a small sport's up car with Christmas lights all over it yesterday in my travels about the county
was it a bimmer? My friend's son did that with his car Posted by: kallisto at December 21, 2024 01:56 PM (dCxaZ) 25
the pics of the greens look so yummy...and nutritious!
and Locorotondo, Italy...wow. Would be delightful to visit there. til then, I'll have to stick to a Christmas Village closer to home: https://tinyurl.com/5dy2h6bf Christmas in Cape May NJ Posted by: kallisto at December 21, 2024 01:59 PM (dCxaZ) 26
My ex-coworker is insistent that I get some sort of garden going next year. I have a small cheap walk in greenhouse that I want to set up. I'd like to try that Elliot Coleman system, where you do winter hardy green, covered with frost protection in an unheated greenhouse. I am not a fan of lettuce as it doesn't agree with me.
Been a mild winter to date. I'm hoping we get enough rain this spring I can turn over a patch. Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 21, 2024 02:02 PM (NQtI0) 27
Wasn't a BMW, but certainly a two door. It had lights all over it
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 02:03 PM (fwDg9) 28
...Wasn't a BMW, but certainly a two door. It had lights all over it. Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2024 02:03 PM (fwDg9)
They used a Mercedes C-220 for a Christmas Play in New Jersey. It was carrying three Wise Guys and they followed that three-pointed star. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2024 02:10 PM (Xo+UM) 29
Wise Guys, eh?
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2024 02:27 PM (UKUm3) 30
Gosh that's some purty lettuce. When I first grew just-plain leaf (must have been black-seeded Simpson), I was resolutely warned about how short the season was and how easily it all bolted. I used solar-cloth tenting, and a couple of other tricks, with mixed results. Then I went 20' farther up the garden and planted in the shade, and doubled the season. So I learned from that. Little Gem will grow right out in the sun, if it's not too dry. Great little plant.
'Health' note: if you're growing dark greens because they are so good for you (and for most, they are) and have a history of folate stones, be prepared for a doctor to tell you to eat less lettuce and spinach. You just can't win. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 21, 2024 02:33 PM (zdLoL) 31
29 Wise Guys, eh?
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2024 02:27 PM (UKUm3) *hits Curley on head with mallet* Posted by: Moe Howard at December 21, 2024 02:40 PM (TcVeV) 32
31 29 Wise Guys, eh?
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2024 02:27 PM (UKUm3) *hits Curley on head with mallet* Posted by: Moe Howard at December 21, 2024 02:40 PM (TcVeV) You guys! Posted by: Larry Fine, the Peacekeeper at December 21, 2024 02:43 PM (PiwSw) 33
13 When living in Susanville, I learned that the ice crystals in the branches are called "pogonip," a Northern Paiute word meaning "white death."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2024 01:35 PM (fzQGK) -_-_-_-_-_-_- Ah, the hazards one misses growing up on the high plains. Met a gal from Indiana who asked me, 'Where are all the trees?". I told her, "We thought you were gonna bring 'em." Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 21, 2024 02:46 PM (52uDx) 34
My "gardening" has consisted of rearranging furniture to accommodate my late uncle's old Christmas cactus. He had a degree in botany, among others, and worked as head gardener on Belle Isle in Detroit for a time.
His sister - my aunt - inherited it when Uncle died. It did a lot of traveling before she passed it on to me a couple weeks ago. It's not going to bloom this year. Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 21, 2024 02:49 PM (KdWM9) 35
Way,Way Downriver at December 21, 2024 02:33 PM (zdLoL)
I've never heard of folate stones, but if you have a history of oxalate stones, you need to avoid spinach, chard, beet greens and maybe some other greens, veggies and nuts. Lettuce is very low in oxalate, spinach is very high. But some people with other kidney problems may need to limit lettuce because of its potassium content. Posted by: KT at December 21, 2024 02:54 PM (xekrU) 36
Wise Guys, eh?
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2024 02:27 PM (UKUm3) *hits Curley on head with mallet* Posted by: Moe Howard at December 21, 2024 02:40 PM (TcVeV) Niagara Falls? Niagara Falls? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 21, 2024 02:58 PM (VNX3d) 37
I don't know how but our Christmas cactus is starting to bloom right on schedule. We've had it for years, a two bit (literally) remainder from the garden center. It has never died but never grown. It just continues. Perhaps it represents a miracle or a mystery. :-)
Posted by: JTB at December 21, 2024 02:59 PM (yTvNw) Posted by: KT at December 21, 2024 03:07 PM (xekrU) 39
MEOW THREAD
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 21, 2024 03:09 PM (U81Si) 40
NaughtyPine at December 21, 2024 02:49 PM
Plants with a family history are the best. In addition to Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter cacti, some indoor begonias and hoyas can be passed down. Posted by: KT at December 21, 2024 03:09 PM (xekrU) 41
I am not a fan of lettuce as it doesn't agree with me.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 21, 2024 02:02 PM (NQtI0 Notsothoreau, this might not be the culprit in your case, but I have found that I'm fine with lettuce if I wash it myself, specifically if it's "pre-washed". There's something they use on pre-washed lettuce that often causes digestive distress for me. Fortunately, it rinses off okay. Posted by: Emmie at December 21, 2024 03:18 PM (Sf2cq) 42
From Boise area: Lows 32-36 F, highs 39-57. We're starting to get winter rains. White Christmas not in the forecast.
Interesting we should be talking about lettuce and spinach. Due to a health problem that turned up recently, I've been advised to eat a lot more vegetables. The first change I made was from a meat-cheese sandwich for lunch, to a tuna-mayo-spinach salad topped with a few dried blueberries. The side effect losing a few pounds, in just the first week - definitely not complaining! I'll be taking my lettuce and spinach growing efforts more seriously this year. Oh, and yesterday I harvested fresh parsley to add to my salads! I had no idea it would make it to late December without freezing out. We cut one of the blue spruce trees from our wind-row as our Christmas tree - our first tree cutting. We planted them at double density so we could do this. Blue spruces have very pointy needles... Husband's Puttering was to frame more of his old mosaics and hang them in the master bathroom. Mine was to take the "vanilla meltys" left over from making peppermint bark, melting them with crushed candy canes, and using that to coat roasted almonds. Posted by: Pat* at December 21, 2024 04:49 PM (A6A+8) 43
"Sierra" batavian lettuce is one of my top 5 favorite varieties, as is "marvel of four seasons", the same plant as the French variety you named. "Bronze arrow" and "buttercrunch" are excellent too. Every few years I let a few bolt and save the seeds. I plant them 9 inches apart in all directions on a raised bed and just harvest the outer leaves until it starts to throw up a stalk.
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