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Former CIA Director Counter-Terrorism: Tulsi Gabbard is Well-Qualified to be Director of National Intelligence and Rein in the Incompetent and Malign "Intelligence" Community

This is a big endorsement for Gabbard. Bernie Hudson is as qualified a judge as anyone, and he's writing in National Review, to let other institutions-aligned people know that Gabbard is worthy.


The United States has increasingly become a low-trust society, where diminished confidence in the effectiveness and integrity of our institutions is widespread and bipartisan. This now extends to the American national security and intelligence sectors, where that loss of trust is problematic for a country with enduring global responsibilities and interests.


For a vocal portion of the elite national security establishment, however, the remedy for that skepticism is not to entertain that its critics may have a point, but to demand reflexive obedience to an outdated consensus that may no longer be fit for purpose.

This erosion of institutional trust has been fueled, in part, by some of the spectacularly wrong calls the U.S. intelligence community has made over recent years. Its assessment that there was an active weapons of mass destruction program in Saddam Hussein's Iraq set in motion two decades of regional instability. Its prediction that the removal of Libya's Qaddafi would improve regional stability resulted in years of civil war in that country and a torrent of refugees to Europe. Its assessment that the Afghan government could sustain itself once American bayonets departed fell apart when that government collapsed within a long weekend.

These failures have had real, lasting effects on the security and credibility of the United States, as it seems to have effectively pioneered militarism without victory. Compounding this is a sense by many Americans that the security services are immune from consequences when systemic failures occur.

There has also been an unwelcome trend where some of the residual prestige and expertise the security services possess has been repurposed to disparage domestic political figures. These included, but were not limited to, public accusations that a sitting U.S. president was the agent of a hostile, foreign power. This flimsy accusation occupied the nation's attention for years before ending with a whimper. Still, a substantial, partisan remnant of millions of believers in this baseless accusation remains.

These events convinced just as many others on the opposite side of the partisan divide that the same intelligence community that protected the country in the years after 9/11 had perhaps begun to apply to the American people the tactics it had learned against our enemies overseas.

Given all this, restoring the American people's broad faith in the intelligence community is an urgent task. They need to believe that those entrusted with the vast powers of the national security apparatus will perform their duties in a nonpartisan way that prioritizes constitutional rights, meaningful accountability, and democratic safeguards.

Changing these trends will be hard, and that effort must begin at the top. It is vital the director of national intelligence (DNI), who leads the intelligence community, be someone with high integrity, sound judgment, and a clear understanding of the commander in chief's intentions. It would also go a long way toward reestablishing credibility with Americans if the next director were someone with a significant, bipartisan background.

Tulsi Gabbard fits these criteria. She has the right experience, temperament, and professional integrity to restore faith in America's intelligence community.

While Tulsi Gabbard is accused of being a Syrian spy, we're seeing Cultural Enrichment levels not seen since the Visigoths sacked Rome.

I know that American citizens are allowed to own guns, but... are these even citizens?


When police searched the home of two Students for Justice in Palestine leaders, a pair of sisters at George Mason University, their allies painted a sympathetic picture.


The students were targeted, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), for engaging in "anti-genocide events on campus." The Intercept reported that police found "antique firearms" registered to the students' brother and brought gun-related charges as a result of his family's "pro-Palestine activism."

Excluded from those descriptions was the crime the sisters are suspected of committing. A group of student radicals defaced George Mason's student center in August, spray painting messages that warned of a "student intifada." In its coverage of the incident, the Washington Post wrote that "activists spray-painted words on Wilkins Plaza outside the university's Johnson Center."

Those activists caused thousands of dollars in damage, a felony in the state of Virginia, and police suspect the SJP leaders, sisters Jena and Noor Chanaa, led the group of vandals. Weeks after the incident, in November, a county judge granted a warrant--which is under seal until February, according to a Fairfax County court representative--allowing police to seize electronics from the Chanaa family home.

When officers entered the Chanaa family home, they found firearms--modern weapons, not antiques--as well as scores of ammunition and foreign passports, all of which sat in plain view, according to court documents obtained by the Free Beacon and sources familiar with the investigation.

They also found pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read "death to America" and "death to Jews," according to court documents and sources familiar.

Police seized the weapons under Virginia's red flag law, arguing that Mohammad Chanaa, the students' brother and a George Mason alumnus, was "linked to destruction of property in connection with a large group of people with like-minded rhetoric" and posed a danger to others given his possession of "terroristic" materials.

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CAIR has denounced the "draconian measures used by law enforcement authorities" to "silence or intimidate those who seek to end the Israeli genocide in Gaza." A faculty group at George Mason, meanwhile, released a statement expressing "deep concern about the apparent targeting of two George Mason students for their advocacy for Palestinian human rights."

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George Mason did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment. A spokeswoman for the Fairfax County commonwealth attorney's office, Laura Birnbaum, confirmed that officers found guns, ammunition, and pro-terror materials during their search and declined to comment further.

The Chanaa family attorney, Abdel-Rahman Hamed, did not respond to a request for comment. In a statement provided to the Washington Post, Hamed said the case marks "yet another example of the police state targeting American Muslims without cause." An "about" section on his LinkedIn page states, "I deny, defy, and defeat Zionists, antisemites, and White Supremacists."

Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM




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1 Go. Tulsi!

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:33 PM (17uwn)

2 Hu

Posted by: Ciampino - cottage cheese at December 13, 2024 05:33 PM (i0xsb)

3 Hey sista go sista
Soul sista
Go sista

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:33 PM (17uwn)

4 This erosion of institutional trust has been fueled, in part, by some of the spectacularly wrong calls the U.S. intelligence community has made over recent years.

I wonder what this person thinks is the most recent "right" call by the US intelligence community.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2024 05:34 PM (ExV1e)

5 I will fetch them, but they tend to ignore me.
Just sayin’

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:34 PM (17uwn)

6 National Review is now bending the knee?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:35 PM (ZOv7s)

7 They need a wall of shit stained ID photos in the lobby opposite the gold stars.

Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2024 05:37 PM (FhXTo)

8 I guess this means The Dispatch gets sloppy seconds. The Bulwark of course will just sit there and watch, as they always do when sex happens.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:37 PM (ZOv7s)

9 National Review is now bending the knee?[/i

Both knees.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 13, 2024 05:37 PM (mH6SG)

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 13, 2024 05:37 PM (mH6SG)

11 th!

Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2024 05:37 PM (8uzBS)

12 Rein in.

Like a horses rein.

Not reign like ruling.

Posted by: blaster at December 13, 2024 05:38 PM (786t+)

13 How old does a firearm have to be be antique?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:38 PM (vFG9F)

14 Republicans hate women that's why so many serve in high positions in Republican administrations and the first woman SCJ nominated by a Republican.

Also the Republican Party was formed specifically as the anti slave party and the Republicans voted in higher percentage than Democrats for the Civil Rights Act while the Democrats filibustered it. It was all a ruse and why Republicans are considered the racist party.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 13, 2024 05:39 PM (tK3Zm)

15 "I was asking you to hand me the pen I dropped, get the hell away from my crotch!"

Donald Trump to NR staffers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:39 PM (ZOv7s)

16 I'm sitting right here...

Posted by: Russian Collusion at December 13, 2024 05:39 PM (DobEs)

17 "Barron, get in here and help me! They're starting to like each other!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:40 PM (ZOv7s)

18 When Tulsi girlbosses, it’s legit. Not that bogus LARPing that TikTok Karen Nation does.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:40 PM (17uwn)

19 Well I hope this puts the GOPe twits on notice that they had better approve Tulsi.

However I read the 3rd and 4th paragraphs and think those failures were "a feature not a bug" for the interests those agents actually wanted to advance. Endless war is good for the defense business. Weakening the west with a huge stream of muslim refugees was a plus those who side with commies and jihadis.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 13, 2024 05:40 PM (CKOCg)

20 Stop putting women in charge.

Posted by: Seriously at December 13, 2024 05:40 PM (DobEs)

21 So National Review likes the Democrat Trump nominated.

Interesting.

Posted by: blaster at December 13, 2024 05:41 PM (786t+)

22 So are these US citizens?

Posted by: Ciampino - ricotta cheese at December 13, 2024 05:41 PM (i0xsb)

23 Has the US intelligence community done anything useful since the OSS days?

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:42 PM (17uwn)

24 Well, she might be better than Biden appointed Beria cosplay enthusiast 467...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:42 PM (bss/y)

25 Then: You racist white men hate Tulsi because she's a colored woman!

Now: Drag $20 through a trailer park and you'll get Tulsi the wingnut!

Posted by: The left at December 13, 2024 05:43 PM (oZhjI)

26 Has the US intelligence community done anything useful since the OSS days?
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:42 PM (17uwn)
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Useful to whom? They're really good at screwing us up and helping our enemies.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:43 PM (ZOv7s)

27 Cultural Marxists pick Trannies but don't want American Conservatives

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 05:44 PM (fwDg9)

28 13 How old does a firearm have to be be antique?
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:38 PM (vFG9F)

About 29 years old, like most of us here.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 05:44 PM (K861k)

29 Has the US intelligence community done anything useful since the OSS days?

Stopped the commies from taking Iran in the 50s

Did some interesting things in the USSR in the 80s.

Since then their biggest successes have giving various countries to woke commies.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2024 05:44 PM (oZhjI)

30 Did people see my SpaceX launch reminder? I almost missed it myself, too busy reading AoS.

Posted by: Ciampino - Brie is cheese & also my cat at December 13, 2024 05:44 PM (i0xsb)

31 as the US intelligence community done anything useful since the OSS days?
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:42 PM (17uwn)

During the Cold War they did a couple of James Bond movie worthy operations .

Raising the Soviet Sun under their nose and tapping the Soviet undersea cable were pretty cool. Maybe water operations are our specialty.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 13, 2024 05:45 PM (tK3Zm)

32 So National Review likes the Democrat Trump nominated.

Interesting.
Posted by: blaster at December 13, 2024 05:41 PM (786t+)
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They are going to endorse Trump picks so that they can tell their leftist backers that they still have influence on the GOP.

The reason The Weekly Standard got nuked with its patron was tired of paying for a magazine that failed to move the needle.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:45 PM (ZOv7s)

33 found pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read "death to America" and "death to Jews,"

They sound nice.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 13, 2024 05:46 PM (7IOOv)

34 "About 29 years old, like most of us here.
Posted by: tcn in AK "

Most of mine are antiques then.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:46 PM (vFG9F)

35 13 How old does a firearm have to be be antique?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:38 PM


I have one over 100 years old that fires just fine.

l am not even a collector, I just have my great-grandfather's pump-action rifle.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 13, 2024 05:46 PM (HlyYF)

36 31 as the US intelligence community done anything useful since the OSS days?
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:42 PM (17uwn)

During the Cold War they did a couple of James Bond movie worthy operations .


Have you seen our new drone operation?

Posted by: The alphabets at December 13, 2024 05:46 PM (OA79/)

37 Useful to whom? They're really good at screwing us up and helping our enemies.

To the interests of the citizenry of the United Sates of America

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:46 PM (17uwn)

38 The reason The Weekly Standard got nuked with its patron was tired of paying for a magazine that failed to move the needle.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:45 PM (ZOv7s)

I still say the best is the Bulwark? Dispatch? saying that the left should no longer support migration because they were not a reliable source of votes for democrats.

That was so perfect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:47 PM (bss/y)

39 How old does a firearm have to be be antique?
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:38 PM (vFG9F)
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Do you mean C&R eligible or not considered a firearm at all, like black powder?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)

40 Have you seen our new drone operation?

*sigh*

Posted by: New Jersey at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM (mH6SG)

41 George Mason did not respond to a request for comment.
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Did he at least tell some fat-wife jokes??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM (hovnC)

42 I do recall thinking a lot of Gabbard's ideas were very wrong for the country during the 2020 DNC primary period. But I do think she opposes endless wars but loves her country and will act to defend it if needed. So that makes her seem like a perfect DNI pick.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM (CKOCg)

43 I still say the best is the Bulwark? Dispatch? saying that the left should no longer support migration because they were not a reliable source of votes for democrats.

That was so perfect.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:47 PM (bss/y)
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I'm trying to think of the proper theological term to describe their outlook. My current favorite is "Gnostic Inquisitors: their principles are a mystery; your principles are just wrong."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:49 PM (ZOv7s)

44 "Do you mean C&R eligible or not considered a firearm at all, like black powder?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd "

The article just said "antique". Maybe they had a blunderbuss.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:49 PM (vFG9F)

45 Ok thank you to those who answered my question. Seems they were useful prior to the time they decided to conspire to kill an American president, and succeeded.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:49 PM (17uwn)

46 41 Those antiquated 1911s are hopelessly outclassed nowadays.
Posted by: Guy looking to start something at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM (vFG9F)

Mary Ann looks like a 12 year old boy. If you're into that kind of thing...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:49 PM (bss/y)

47 "...found pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags and signs that read "death to America" and "death to Jews,"..."

So a typical college dorm room you say...

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2024 05:51 PM (TN0g+)

48 The article just said "antique". Maybe they had a blunderbuss.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:49 PM (vFG9F)
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Sone here will live long enough to see Glocks become C&R eligible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:51 PM (ZOv7s)

49 Tulsi's father was a conservative-ish pol.

She's not, but I suspect having grown up in a more sane household helped her see just how insane her former allies have become.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2024 05:51 PM (oZhjI)

50 Well, Ginger looks like a tranny.

Posted by: Guy looking to start something at December 13, 2024 05:52 PM (vFG9F)

51 Tulsi's father was a conservative-ish pol.

She's not, but I suspect having grown up in a more sane household helped her see just how insane her former allies have become.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2024 05:51 PM (oZhjI)
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First Things had an article on her, looking at how she used to be very anti-gay, muted that for a while, but now seems to be less of a cipher.

Her father is reportedly a Catholic and Knight of Columbus.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (ZOv7s)

52 13 How old does a firearm have to be be antique?
Posted by: fd

Older than 1898. There are some specific firearms that are considered qualifying in 1898 as the ban begins technically in the middle of that year. But, unless you have serial numbers related to the date of mfg, then safer not to consider those as antiques. Altered antiques present a problem under the antiques qualification as well.

If you tried to make a semi auto firearm out of an old 1893 Mauser then it would count as a modern firearm subsequently (Ludwig and Loewe mfg mark always counts as an antique of this model because they merged with another firm prior to 1898 cutoff date). So don't do that as the laws are vague about the degree of alterations needed to make an antique back into a modern firearm subject to federal firearm laws.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (ctrM5)

53 We need to keep repeating the *Real* reason Tulsi is hated so much by the Democrats and the Deep State, especially now that she's joined up with Trump.

In 2016, Tulsi was a co-chair of the DNC, a rising star, the Democrats thought she was great. But then came her Great Crime - she said publicly that it was corrupt for the Democrats to rig their primaries in favor of Hillary in order to make sure that Bernie lost. This infuriated Hillary, and THIS is when the "Russia Russia Russia!" claims started about Tulsi, just like they were starting for Trump. Hillary and her people have *never* forgiven her for this, and she successfully drove Tulsi out of the party. So of course Tulsi came into Trump's orbit, what other choice did she have? And that made the rest of the Dem Party hate her just as much as Hillary did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (wyMQY)

54 41 Those antiquated 1911s are hopelessly outclassed nowadays.

Posted by: Guy looking to start something at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM


Much like the U.S. Constitution is also outclassed nowadays - since both are over 100 years old.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 13, 2024 05:54 PM (HlyYF)

55 Mohammed is asshoe.

Posted by: Guy Who Says People are Asshoe at December 13, 2024 05:54 PM (/VrFq)

56 51 Well, Ginger looks like a tranny.
Posted by: Guy looking to start something at December 13, 2024 05:52 PM (vFG9F)

Yes, I expect she helped several different men change gears over the years.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 05:55 PM (K861k)

57 Evening.

Terrorists? In a pro-pali group?

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

Posted by: Robert at December 13, 2024 05:55 PM (7dzgD)

58 Breaking911 @Breaking911 2h
🚨 BREAKING UPDATE: Nancy Pelosi fell down a marble staircase in front of all the lawmakers and dignitaries during an official visit at the Grand Duke's palace in Luxembourg. She suffered a fractured hip.
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Update: Apparently, she tripped over her boobs.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 05:56 PM (hovnC)

59 Those antiquated 1911s are hopelessly outclassed nowadays.
Posted by: Guy looking to start something at December 13, 2024 05:48 PM (vFG9F)


the SIG design for the .45 is a good modernization of the original Browning design, since it eliminates the link swivel

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 05:56 PM (D7oie)

60 And that made the rest of the Dem Party hate her just as much as Hillary did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (wyMQY)
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The establishment? Yes. But her making common cause with Trump helped destroy the remaining stigma associated with supporting him.

Combined with RFK embracing him, Trump finally was normalized.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:56 PM (ZOv7s)

61 >Tulsi Gabbard is Well-Qualified to be Director of National Intelligence and Rein in the Incompetent and Malign "Intelligence" Community

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will we find out what the drones are then

Posted by: Don Black. Message: wtf? at December 13, 2024 05:57 PM (/7KEl)

62 People smarter than I have tried in vain pointing out this “high trust society” business some are talking about.

This isn’t one of those nice-to-have luxuries, without a high trust society, basic civilization itself becomes impossible, the people ingovernable.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2024 05:57 PM (uGNKC)

63 " She suffered a fractured hip."


Not sick of winning over here, Boss!

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2024 05:57 PM (iziT8)

64 The establishment? Yes. But her making common cause with Trump helped destroy the remaining stigma associated with supporting him.

Combined with RFK embracing him, Trump finally was normalized.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:56 PM (ZOv7s)

It's amazing how all of the Left's clever clever plans end up helping Trump and hurting them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (wyMQY)

65 The Chanaa family attorney, Abdel-Rahman Hamed, did not respond to a request for comment. In a statement provided to the Washington Post, Hamed said the case marks "yet another example of the police state targeting American Muslims without cause." An "about" section on his LinkedIn page states, "I deny, defy, and defeat Zionists, antisemites, and White Supremacists."
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Why in the hell does the State Department let in people like this?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (YqDXo)

66 Livin' on Tulsi time

Posted by: Don Black. Message: wtf? at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (/7KEl)

67 59 Breaking911 @Breaking911 2h
🚨 BREAKING UPDATE: Nancy Pelosi fell down a marble staircase in front of all the lawmakers and dignitaries during an official visit at the Grand Duke's palace in Luxembourg. She suffered a fractured hip.
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Update: Apparently, she tripped over her boobs.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 05:56 PM (hovnC)

As rotten as this is, I guess I'm not too sorry she is in pain and far from home. I'm sure it will make her sympathetic to all the soldiers, airmen and sailors she has sent off to war in foreign countries. Oh, wait, no it won't.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (K861k)

68 C&R has a moving window of fifty years from the current date for a firearm in original configuration but you have to have a federal C&R license in order to trade across states with one and are required to have a bound volume with acquisition and sales and if you do it primarily for a profit can be subject to being an illegal firearms dealer.

There is a loophole on the time as some Sov Bloc weapons qualified as issued by a non existent country and thus collectible. So something from Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia became C&R firearms as those countries are defunct.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (ctrM5)

69 "She suffered a fractured hip."

Not sick of winning over here, Boss!
______________

The Trump Curse strikes again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2024 05:59 PM (YqDXo)

70 Fascinating to watch the cabinet process rollout. All of the candidates are DC outsiders, that's why some are getting pushback. It has nothing to do with their qualifications its all about their lack of swamp approval. And they are winning.

There is a real societal shift going on.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2024 05:59 PM (LkLld)

71 Those antiquated 1911s are hopelessly outclassed nowadays

Sure, Jan. I bet you traded off your Philco for an “Energy Star” compliant refrigerator, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2024 05:59 PM (uGNKC)

72 Thank you, Whig.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 05:59 PM (vFG9F)

73 An "about" section on his LinkedIn page states, "I deny, defy, and defeat Zionists, antisemites, and White Supremacists."
_____________

Why in the hell does the State Department let in people like this?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (YqDXo)

Have we met actual white supremacists? I mean, besides Biden and his ancient KKK buddies?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:00 PM (K861k)

74 On YouTube see Alina Habba Habba Hubba explains possible recourse on anti Trump Lawfare

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:00 PM (fwDg9)

75 Tulsi is a player in the new anti-woke center left-right fusion party. Nothing complicated about it.

Posted by: 13times at December 13, 2024 06:00 PM (hQsiU)

76 It's amazing how all of the Left's clever clever plans end up helping Trump and hurting them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2024 05:58 PM (wyMQY)
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Evil is ultimately self-defeating. Always has been.

I missed the thread about Biden's people stupidly selling off border wall materials, but this is utterly, abjectly stupid.

Those items were budgeted and purchased. You can just decided to dump approved project materials out of spite. There is a lengthy process need to declare government property surplus, and it clearly wasn't followed here because the project wasn't formally cancelled.

So they'll get their sick burn, and then federal prison time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

77 Wow "scores of ammunition"??!!?

Scary.

...If you know nothing about guns. I'm fucking CARRYING 'scores of ammunition' right now and I'm not carrying more than my usual EDC.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 13, 2024 06:01 PM (xcxpd)

78 Off topic, so probably too soon? But:

Joint DHS/FBI statement released on the whole drone gibberish. Included:

"While no malicious activity or intent has been found, the incidents underscore limitations in current regulatory powers over unmanned aircraft systems."

My take- they are going after SpaceX.

Posted by: DaisyB at December 13, 2024 06:01 PM (AbL8c)

79 Anybody know how people in HI feel about Tulsi now days?

Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2024 06:01 PM (i0F8b)

80 Oh, wait, no it won't.
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You had me going there for a second, tcn!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (hovnC)

81 Jimmy is going to outlast them all. It's unreal how long these dinosaurs stick around.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (vFG9F)

82 So they'll get their sick burn, and then federal prison time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

Don't be silly. They are democrats. They won't go to jail. They won't even be spoken to sternly.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (K861k)

83 Altered antiques present a problem under the antiques qualification as well.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (ctrM5)
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Where's the line on restoration?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (ZOv7s)

84 And FUCK red flag laws.
Someone should got to jail here, but it's not who the article thinks it should be.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (xcxpd)

85 by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2024 05:53 PM (wyMQY)

Her troubles started before the DNC convention. When she first got to DC, she was warmly embraced as an Intersectional that would be one of the star faces of the demonrats.
But she soon learned she wasn’t supposed to have her own opinion and was expected to take orders from demorat leaders…which she resisted. But the open rebellion against the old commies did her in.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (PCNh/)

86 BTW, regarding antique firearms, they generally have a higher price tag for a model that can be proved to be an antique versus one that is a year later but covered by federal firearm laws.

An 1897 model Winchester shotgun is merely one example as are 1893, 1894, and 1895 Mausers (made from 1893 to the 1930's in some cases). A few Broomhandler Mausers count as antiques as well as some Krag rifles.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (ctrM5)

87 81 Jimmy is going to outlast them all. It's unreal how long these dinosaurs stick around.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (vFG9F)

only the good die young

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (xcxpd)

88 Don't be silly. They are democrats. They won't go to jail. They won't even be spoken to sternly.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (K861k)
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Oh yeah, sure. That's why exactly no Democrats have inquired about pardons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (ZOv7s)

89 Jimmy is going to outlast them all. It's unreal how long these dinosaurs stick around.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:02 PM (vFG9F)


The only reason I don't think Jimmah is in a freezer somewhere waiting for a propitious moment to thaw him out for a viewing is that I can't think of a reason to use the freezer space.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:04 PM (D7oie)

90 So, who's playing with all those drones on the coasts?

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (dIske)

91 "She suffered a fractured hip."

Another grim milestone of the Emhoff-Biden administration.

Posted by: Sad trumpet at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (DobEs)

92 If Hillary hates her, she has to be pretty good.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (+oR7L)

93 An 1897 model Winchester shotgun is merely one example as are 1893, 1894, and 1895 Mausers (made from 1893 to the 1930's in some cases). A few Broomhandler Mausers count as antiques as well as some Krag rifles.
Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (ctrM5)


Unfortunately the Maxim in 450/577 is not included in that list. Which breaks my heart.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (D7oie)

94 72 Thank you, Whig.
Posted by: fd
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States can have different laws even on modern blackpowder rifles which by federal law are NOT considered firearms to be regulated.

ATF used to compile all federal and state laws and regulations in one volume that they updated periodically. Think is an an e publication nowadays but that is always a good place to start referencing if you have questions.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (ctrM5)

95 Why in the hell does the State Department let in people like this?

Fellow travelers.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 13, 2024 06:06 PM (mH6SG)

96 Tulsi has my vote as long as she requires surf and three gun competitions for agents. Maybe combine them into one event.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (/lPRQ)

97 If Pelosi tumbled down a marble staircase it’s likely she suffered more than a fractured hip.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (PCNh/)

98 Tulsi has my vote as long as she requires surf and three gun competitions for agents. Maybe combine them into one event.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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Skeet surfing!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

99 Texas officials said they were going to buy the border material and give it all back to Trump.

Posted by: Megthered at December 13, 2024 06:08 PM (HZt/w)

100 Tulsi has my vote as long as she requires surf and three gun competitions for agents. Maybe combine them into one event.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (/lPRQ)


Skeet-surfing is a way of life

Posted by: Nick Rivers at December 13, 2024 06:08 PM (D7oie)

101 Hey, will somebody cover my Oval Office Decision Maker shift tonight? My kid's in the Christmas play and I wanna go see dress rehearsal.

Posted by: Cindy from Food Service at December 13, 2024 06:08 PM (DobEs)

102 Bookwise my favorite genre is spy novels. Always enjoyed the ones involving the CIA, for or against, when it was glamorized. Also liked detective stuff but now my enjoyment would be tempered if the FBI were involved.
So real world facts have destroyed a couple of really good genres for the foreseeable future. I hope Kash can really clean up that place or shut it down and start a new one, different name, different mission an different staff. Also remove it from DoJ.
Analogously, close down the whole of the State Dept. It's been the source of most instability in the world forever.
Final suggestion, rename DoD to War Department - wasn't that it's original name?

Posted by: Ciampino - Brie is a cheese & also my cat at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (i0xsb)

103 There is a picture on the DM of one of those "drones" and it looks like an Osprey airplane to me.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (vFG9F)

104 They try to get a broken hip up and walking within a day now, if she is not up and about we will know it is serious.

Posted by: Nick Rivers at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (D7oie)

105 Oh yeah, sure. That's why exactly no Democrats have inquired about pardons.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:03 PM (ZOv7s)

I appreciate your optimism.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (K861k)

106 Jimmy is shaking in his shoes that when he meets God it won't be good

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (fwDg9)

107 Texas officials said they were going to buy the border material and give it all back to Trump.
Posted by: Megthered at December 13, 2024 06:08 PM (HZt/w)
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Yeah, I saw that, but the sale of US property is not something you can just decide to do because you're in a bad mood or don't like the policy.

There's the Anti-Deficiency Act for one thing, though the whiz kids behind this have probably never heard of it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (ZOv7s)

108 Unfortunately the Maxim in 450/577 is not included in that list. Which breaks my heart.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I have seen some folks screw a 303 SMLE barrel on a Martini action as the screw threads and barrel diameter are the same. Cheaper to shoot and the Martini Action, if not abused was made of premium steel at the time. Common conversion in Commonwealth nations.

That could technically run afoul of original condition laws though for acquisitions. I think antique rules also include firearms later than 1899 where the ammunition is not manufactured anymore or is a very boutique item. But I would have to check that. Some of the larger rimfires might qualify under that as to my knowledge, no one makes 32 Rimfire anymore.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (ctrM5)

109 stupid sock.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (D7oie)

110 97 If Pelosi tumbled down a marble staircase it’s likely she suffered more than a fractured hip.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:07 PM (PCNh/)

I'm sure she hit her head, too, but nothing important besides the hip. Hard to ride that broom with a busted joint.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (K861k)

111 >If Pelosi tumbled down a marble staircase it’s likely she suffered more than a fractured hip.
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yeah we won't see her for a while

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Hail, Vega! at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (/7KEl)

112 Mom broke her hip at 91. Replacement surgery, therapy and back home. Lived to 96. Not a death sentence.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (gUEAT)

113 Reports say Pelosi fell during a ceremony in front of a bunch of dignitaries at a commemoration of the Battle of the Bulge.

But no video?

Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (i0F8b)

114 I am fine with Tulsi joing the club

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (fwDg9)

115
Sure, Jan. I bet you traded off your Philco for an “Energy Star” compliant refrigerator, too.
Posted by: Common Tater

Pfffffffft! I buy only International Harvester refrigerators.

Posted by: Aunt Teek at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (G5+As)

116 I appreciate your optimism.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (K861k)
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They are acting terrified. The resistance is crumbling all around us. No one has the guts to stay and fight. Complete opposite of 2016.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (ZOv7s)

117 NO! to the 'Red Flag' gun seizure.
If they were rrested for some violent felony, ok.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (/lPRQ)

118 Final suggestion, rename DoD to War Department - wasn't that it's original name?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Twin departments of War (dealt with Army and Army Air Corp later on) and Navy (Navy and Marines).

The old understanding was that the President controlled the Navy and Marines but Congress controlled the Army and its deployment.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (ctrM5)

119 I hope the Wicked Witch of the West is out for a long time.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (fwDg9)

120 Reports say Pelosi fell during a ceremony in front of a bunch of dignitaries at a commemoration of the Battle of the Bulge.

But no video?
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (i0F8b)

She tripped over Rep Nadler?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (VNX3d)

121 What would Dr. Walter E. Williams have to say about George Mason today?

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (jgmnb)

122 Bernie Hudson gets it. This and the piece from Greenfield the other day gives me some hope that there is a path forward that will work.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 13, 2024 06:11 PM (QB+5g)

123 can be proved to be an antique

Though Commiefornia hates any gub.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 13, 2024 06:12 PM (7IOOv)

124 They try to get a broken hip up and walking within a day now, if she is not up and about we will know it is serious.

That's a hip replacement. A broken hip is a totally different ball game. She ain't going nowhere own her own for a long time if ever again.



Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (8uzBS)

125 The .303 conversion to the Martini used to be a common thing for giving to beaters and natives levies you sort of trusted. I almost bought one but I was focused on a real Martini. I think they also made some special-built, either with the old dies and jigs, or using extra parts.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (D7oie)

126 Pelosi was seen tightly gripping the hand of a GOP congressman before she fell. Did that sly dog give her a little shove?

Another GOP congressman said it’s not his place to comment on her medical condition, lol. That’s how you know it’s bad.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (PCNh/)

127 112 Mom broke her hip at 91. Replacement surgery, therapy and back home. Lived to 96. Not a death sentence.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine

Would you want a Luxembourgian Hip Joint and surgeon?

Posted by: Phlemish, Myself at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (G5+As)

128 Though Commiefornia hates any gub.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 13, 2024 06:12 PM (7IOOv)
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Looking forward to DoJ filing civil rights lawsuits and forcing consent agreements from Illinois, California, New York and New Jersey.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (ZOv7s)

129 She tripped over Rep Nadler?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

No, her boobs.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2024 06:14 PM (WXNFJ)

130 ...scores of ammunition...

That could be almost a whole box of pistol ammo.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:14 PM (/lPRQ)

131 "They try to get a broken hip up and walking within a day now, if she is not up and about we will know it is serious."

Yep, I remember hearing this when Nick Sabin got his hip replaced a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2024 06:14 PM (TN0g+)

132 Four score and seven rounds ago...

Posted by: Abe Lincoln, mopping up at December 13, 2024 06:15 PM (vFG9F)

133 103 There is a picture on the DM of one of those "drones" and it looks like an Osprey airplane to me.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (vFG9F)
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I'm not too concerned about the "drones". What concerns me is the lack of candor or interest of the DOD, Federal Law enforcement and the current administration in finding out just what's up. They took the same approach with those "balloons", and it was less than optimal.

Last night someone set up a webcam stream on the Jersey shore which airlines use as an approach to the NY airports, and you could see a bunch of them whizzing around doing their light show. The valid aircraft was obvious....as were the drones (which I'm told aren't showing up on radar). And, this is on both the east and the west coast (Oregon specifically).

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2024 06:15 PM (dIske)

134 4 years is a very short time to try and undo the rot that started under the Clinton administration, and which has metastasized horribly since.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:15 PM (XeU6L)

135 That's a hip replacement. A broken hip is a totally different ball game. She ain't going nowhere own her own for a long time if ever again.

Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (8uzBS)
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Another possibility is that her hip broke and then she fell. This happened to the late, great Paul Harrell. Under those layers of makeup and wigs, she may be in a really bad way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:15 PM (ZOv7s)

136 Some of the larger rimfires might qualify under that as to my knowledge, no one makes 32 Rimfire anymore.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:10 PM (ctrM5)

So my Civil War Spencer that fires a 56 caliber rimfire?

Cool. That round would f*ck up anyone's day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2024 06:16 PM (d9fT1)

137 I'm not opposed to Gabbard on the face of it.

But if a former CIA bigshot is endorsing her, that's a very, very bad sign.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2024 06:16 PM (BI5O2)

138 Where's the line on restoration?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

It is buried in murky rules and technical letters sent to inquirers. One no no, I think, is converting an antique to fire modern ammo but as that also applies to antiques post 1899 due to non existent mfg of ammo, not sure about that. There is an odd Boys Rifle that has a short barrel which the ATF exempted from their SBR regulations of the NFA on the ground that it was a collectible, single shot, and shot only .22 rimfire ammo.

Put a new barrel on it and convert one to a 22 Magnum, it becomes a modern firearm subject to SBR rules and ATF regulations.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:16 PM (ctrM5)

139 Aren't many 'broken hips due to falls' in the very elderly actually a fall preceded by a spontaneous broken hip? I know of two here in my circle.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2024 06:16 PM (WXNFJ)

140 As long as the witch is gone. Was she going to run again anyway?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:17 PM (vFG9F)

141 fd. Yes she’s running again.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:17 PM (gUEAT)

142 Oh, I see our esteemed Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd has already suggested that.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (WXNFJ)

143 2AM Naked Hammer Fight for the foreseeable future here in SF!

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Night Moves at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (G5+As)

144 I almost bought one but I was focused on a real Martini.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (D7oie)


Gin...about 7:1.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (d9fT1)

145 " fd. Yes she’s running again.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine "

Probably not now.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (vFG9F)

146 133 103 There is a picture on the DM of one of those "drones" and it looks like an Osprey airplane to me.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:09 PM (vFG9F)

Can't find it.

Link?

Posted by: Please at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (DobEs)

147 They try to get a broken hip up and walking within a day now, if she is not up and about we will know it is serious.
Posted by: Nick Rivers
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I'd put $0 on an irreparable jacked up lower spine.
Close enough to the hip to fudge the truth a wee bit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (/lPRQ)

148 4 years is a very short time to try and undo the rot that started under the Clinton administration, and which has metastasized horribly since.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:15 PM (XeU6L)
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George W. Bush had no interest in undoing anything Clinton did. He campaigned on helping the military, and then made it more woke. His generals sucked.

No one has actually tried to reform government since Reagan, and he actually did pretty well, given a Democrat House of Representatives.

Besides, Trump has a series of rulings that have seriously strengthened his hand. Remember the guy who got fired from his West Point appointment by Biden? That went to court and it came out that congressional terms of office do not prevent the Chief Executive from firing people. That is a plenary power of being President.

This was hailed a sick burn for Joe, but it's now going to bite them in the ass.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (ZOv7s)

149 So my Civil War Spencer that fires a 56 caliber rimfire?

Cool. That round would f*ck up anyone's day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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That would qualify even made after 1899 but not for a modern replica. ATF is silent if someone started making that ammo again so it was 'readily available'.

I restored some old Mausers and Krags on both sides of the antique drop dead date back when and had to deal with some of those regulations.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (ctrM5)

150 What was she doing with the rest of the delegation anyway?
Speaker Emerita, my ass. What a greedy old sow. Lust for powwer, lust for money.

Your little junket didn’t turn out so well, did it you grizzled succubus. Enjoy your green jello or whatever they serve in Belgian hospitals.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:19 PM (PCNh/)

151 "
Can't find it.

Link?
Posted by: Please "


Here you go...

tinyurl.com/4aab8cyd

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:20 PM (vFG9F)

152 AOC must have gotten the number of a good santero

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:20 PM (PCNh/)

153 OH, and all antique full automatic machine guns do not qualify as antiques. Only semi automatics like the Mauser Broomhandle would or bolt/lever actions plus single shots of various designs.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:21 PM (ctrM5)

154 As long as the witch is gone. Was she going to run again anyway?
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:17 PM (vFG9F)


There is still rumors of Joe being 25th'd and Kamala brought in to sign off on bills pushed through by a rump Congress, ál a 1913 Federal Reserve bill and the income tax

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:21 PM (D7oie)

155 That would qualify even made after 1899 but not for a modern replica.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:18 PM (ctrM5)


Nope. A nice original Spencer in excellent condition! I would never fire it, even if I could find or make the ammo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2024 06:21 PM (d9fT1)

156 "Succubus" is a funny word.

Posted by: Sounds dirty, too at December 13, 2024 06:21 PM (DobEs)

157
Would you want a Luxembourgian Hip Joint and surgeon?
Posted by: Phlemish
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The last time that I was through there, I had to insist that the border agent stamp my passport.

Average income there is ~$80,000 US/year. I expect that they have good private clinics, but who knows?
Luxembourg, with a population of 502, 000 (Eurostat, 2010 estimate) has one of the best state-funded healthcare systems in Europe.

Internet sez "Luxembourg, with a population of 502, 000 (Eurostat, 2010 estimate) has one of the best state-funded healthcare systems in Europe. "

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:23 PM (XeU6L)

158 Put a new barrel on it and convert one to a 22 Magnum, it becomes a modern firearm subject to SBR rules and ATF regulations.
Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:16 PM (ctrM5)
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A caliber conversion to my mind isn't a restoration. However, US firearms are defined by the fire control group, not the barrel, so a repro barrel should be okay, right?

As for ammunition, I notice a lot of niche manufacturers doing limited runs of otherwise unavailable ammo these days.

I mean, if we're talking ammo scarcity, 8x22 Nambu is really hard to find and absurdly expensive.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:23 PM (ZOv7s)

159 The truth about her condition will soon emerge. Not one of those congresscritters feels any loyalty to her. They will start talking to their personal networks, then next thing you know…details get leaked to the press.

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:23 PM (PCNh/)

160 nancy will receive platinum care, being a grand poobah dignitary and be just fine.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (gUEAT)

161 I think some niche guys are making 9mm Largo, which was completely out of production only a few years ago.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (ZOv7s)

162 Nope. A nice original Spencer in excellent condition! I would never fire it, even if I could find or make the ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2024 06:21 PM (d9fT1)


The reason I like trapdoor springfields is because I never have to worry about destroying a unique rifle by using it.

I want a reproduction Spencer in .44 short by the way, I just have to find an extremely talented machinist/gunsmith who works cheap

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (D7oie)

163 Luxembourgian Hip Joint Surgeons used to tour with Doctor Hook and The Medicine Show back in the day.

Posted by: IIRC at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (DobEs)

164 A NASA employee, Charlie Bell, bought the LC-30A fixed device structure at auction when they ended the Apollo program for scrap value.

Then Congress decided to launch the launch Apollo-Soyuz and he sold it back to them for something like $20 million.

NASA was so pissed that when they finally ended launches they cut it apart and stored it in a field behind HQ for 30 years.

The soil at the storage area was so contaminated with lead from the paint that they had to dig it up and dispose of it in a toxic landfill.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (QB+5g)

165 Nope. A nice original Spencer in excellent condition! I would never fire it, even if I could find or make the ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

FWIW, there was a guy in Texas that actually hand makes some obscure rimfire cartridges among other things. Often requires using a lathe to make bullets and other such fun tasks. Used to have an ad in the NRA mags in the back. Don't even know if the guy is still doing it or is dead by now.

That tends to happen a depressing number of times on peripheral items like cartridge chamber adapters, pistol sights, reloading gadgets, etc.

Also, at one time, you could buy a kit from France, fairly expensive, that dealt with rimfire reloading.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (ctrM5)

166 nancy will receive platinum care, being a grand poobah dignitary and be just fine.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (gUEAT)
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Lots of transfusions with the blood of illegal immigrant children, if internet rumor is to believed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:26 PM (ZOv7s)

167 159 The truth about her condition will soon emerge. Not one of those congresscritters feels any loyalty to her. They will start talking to their personal networks, then next thing you know…details get leaked to the press.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:23 PM (PCNh/)
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Looking forward to the zombie, drooling wheel chair commando look a la Feinstein.

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2024 06:26 PM (dIske)

168 IIRC, tiny Luxembourg's NATO contingent is a medical unit.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 06:26 PM (hovnC)

169 Did Pelosi look like a slinky going down the stairs?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2024 06:26 PM (63Dwl)

170 161 I think some niche guys are making 9mm Largo, which was completely out of production only a few years ago.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Sarco did have a bunch of that ammo for years that was Spanish military surplus. Dunno about now. They still sell some Star models, etc. that fire it on the firearms section.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:27 PM (ctrM5)

171 FWIW, there was a guy in Texas that actually hand makes some obscure rimfire cartridges among other things. Often requires using a lathe to make bullets and other such fun tasks. Used to have an ad in the NRA mags in the back. Don't even know if the guy is still doing it or is dead by now.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:25 PM (ctrM5)
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There was a guy in Florida who made conversion bolts for Steyr M1912s to make the shoot 9mm para. He had a huge backlog. And then he died.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:27 PM (ZOv7s)

172 Good point - at a certain number of years osteoporosis can cause enough damage that hip bones break all by theyself.

Calcium deficitis only part of it? Skimmed-Milk is like chalk water and about as nutritious. Without dietary fat, Calcium is almost completely unusable.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2024 06:28 PM (uGNKC)

173 Norway has a high standard of living due to North Sea oil and a small population. I would never want to be hospitalized or treated for a serious disease there. I have more relatives there than in US, and many have bad outcomes and stories about healthcare being crap. What happened to Uncle Otto?

I don't know, he went to hospital and just died.......

Posted by: Nordisk Tidende at December 13, 2024 06:28 PM (G5+As)

174 I also predict she will be back in the House quickly and receive a rousing welcome from all congress critters. All of them!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:28 PM (gUEAT)

175 Re: Pelosi

I can't help but remember that frail little grandma that the police officers intentionally pushed down the stairs on J6

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight at December 13, 2024 06:29 PM (/50FY)

176 160 nancy will receive platinum care, being a grand poobah dignitary and be just fine.

Yes, since she’s in Belgium she may get served premium chocolate and beer instead of green jello.

I blame the Pope. He should never allowed her to receive Communion when she visited Rome. As soon as she touches down in Europe…BOOM

I think Pope Frankie is next on the Hammer of God list

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:29 PM (PCNh/)

177 I gotta start spending more time with Weasel. I didn't know that this was available. Weird, but interesting.

t.ly/IGeAV

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:29 PM (XeU6L)

178 The reason I like trapdoor springfields is because I never have to worry about destroying a unique rifle by using it.

I want a reproduction Spencer in .44 short by the way, I just have to find an extremely talented machinist/gunsmith who works cheap
Posted by: Kindltot
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Lost Wax casting the receiver in something like brass might be the easier way.

In a few years, 3d printing of metal objects might allow one to be made. Technique is really coming along.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:29 PM (ctrM5)

179 Sarco did have a bunch of that ammo for years that was Spanish military surplus. Dunno about now. They still sell some Star models, etc. that fire it on the firearms section.
Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:27 PM (ctrM5)
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The only stuff I'm seeing now is coming from my new besties at Steinel.

Their downloaded .45 ACP for shaved Webleys is the shit. Great stuff, great price. Grab you a full moon clip and get poppin'.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:30 PM (ZOv7s)

180 Luxemburg is one of those countries that is very proud of their euthanasia programs. Just saying.

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2024 06:30 PM (dIske)

181 I think Pope Frankie is next on the Hammer of God list
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:29 PM (PCNh/)

Hammer of Whom?

Posted by: Canadian Rent Boy Gone Wild at December 13, 2024 06:30 PM (BI5O2)

182 I also predict she will be back in the House quickly and receive a rousing welcome from all congress critters. All of them!
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
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Standing ovation...on account of she made a sacrifice for the nation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:30 PM (XeU6L)

183 Wouldn't put it past AOC to do her in

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (fwDg9)

184 Somebody had an Uberti Henry reproduction for sale a while back. It was reasonably inexpensive. Turns out it was one of a few they re-produced in the original Henry cartridge .44-40 Rimfire, which nobody has made in over 100 years.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (uGNKC)

185 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)

186 Take away their reason to exist.
Withdraw from the Arab World. No US forces of any description. Aggressive enforcement of the immigration laws. Repeal the Patriot Act.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (jNULC)

187 Excluded from those descriptions was the crime the sisters are suspected of committing.
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It wouldn't be True Journalism unless part of the story was suppressed.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (1bNHn)

188 I mean, if we're talking ammo scarcity, 8x22 Nambu is really hard to find and absurdly expensive.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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As barrels are wear and tear item, you should be alright is my guess but not formal legal advice. Altering barrel length, sights, etc. though might get you into trouble.

There is a handbook around about cartridge conversions and what brass can be used to make what cartridge. Dunno if it is currently made but sometimes really old reloading manuals like those by Phil Sharpe, etc. post WWII have some consideration of cartridge conversions due to scarce ammo from foreign sources.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:32 PM (ctrM5)

189 127
Would you want a Luxembourgian Hip Joint and surgeon?

Posted by: Phlemish, Myself at December 13, 2024 06:13 PM (G5+As)
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Would the dog-eater be able to recommend a Luxembourgian translator or does he know only of Austrian-speaking ones?

Posted by: Ciampino - fromage mon cherie? at December 13, 2024 06:32 PM (i0xsb)

190 also predict she will be back in the House quickly and receive a rousing welcome from all congress critters. All of them!

‘Pass the Dutchie 'pon the left hand side’

Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 06:33 PM (D4VWn)

191 185 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)

God is not mocked, even by a fag Jesuit fruit who made Pope.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:33 PM (K861k)

192 Intelligence people to President: "We have this intel that we think is actionable and that you should use to strike at {enemy name here}."

President: 'How sure are you about this?'

Intelligence people: "90%, Mr. President."

President: 'Okay, if I act on this, and you're wrong, you just used up 90% of your allowable mistake quotient. Once the remaining 10% is gone, you're fired. Now, knowing that, would you like to adjust that estimate you just gave me?'

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2024 06:33 PM (O7YUW)

193 NOOD

Posted by: Scarymary at December 13, 2024 06:34 PM (F2xQR)

194 Would the dog-eater be able to recommend a Luxembourgian translator or does he know only of Austrian-speaking ones?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Sign language

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:34 PM (XeU6L)

195 We should all take turns calling on Paul Pelosi. Would be a shame if he got hammered again while Nan is away.


BTW, who inherits her premium ice cream?

Posted by: Eddie Estwing at December 13, 2024 06:34 PM (G5+As)

196 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)
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Lots of articles in Catholic media tallying up the cardinal counts and looking ahead.

Response to his statements is increasingly muted since everyone knows his successor will undo it all anyway.

It's all about demographics - he's one of the last of the liberal Catholics and more you get into younger clergy, the fewer there are.

Plus, everyone is sick of the drama. They want a boring pope for a change.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:34 PM (ZOv7s)

197 Their downloaded .45 ACP for shaved Webleys is the shit. Great stuff, great price. Grab you a full moon clip and get poppin'.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Interesting. The old Webleys are a neat revolver albeit very steampunk and funky to Americans used to Smith and Wesson or Colts. Thanks for the reference.

If you can get 9mm Largo, Sarco did have a few 9mm Largo Destroyer Carbines left in varying degrees of disrepair. Bolts and I think magazines might be missing.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:35 PM (ctrM5)

198 Plus, everyone is sick of the drama. They want a boring pope for a change.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 06:34 PM (ZOv7s)

I'd settle for any Pope who turns out to actually be Catholic.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2024 06:35 PM (K861k)

199 There are some lovely Catholic cemeteries in Bruges and Brussels, Nancy.

Posted by: Crypt Door at December 13, 2024 06:36 PM (G5+As)

200 If Nanzi isn't back in a couple weeks she is worse I think but don't know for sure.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:36 PM (fwDg9)

201 Plus, everyone is sick of the drama. They want a boring pope for a change.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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So...gray smoke?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:36 PM (XeU6L)

202 Nancy's spine is probably pretty degraded from a lifetime of carrying around those big honkers.

Probably the reason she is sloshed all the time. And mean.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 13, 2024 06:36 PM (QB+5g)

203 nood nancy

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 13, 2024 06:36 PM (hovnC)

204 Interesting. The old Webleys are a neat revolver albeit very steampunk and funky to Americans used to Smith and Wesson or Colts. Thanks for the reference.
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Had a buddy who wore a Webley while hog hunting down in the swamps of SC. Carried an M1 carbine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:37 PM (XeU6L)

205 "Pelosi was seen tightly gripping the hand of a GOP congressman before she fell. Did that sly dog give her a little shove?"

or it might mean Pelosi's hip broke first, so even the GOP congressman could not hold her up? Hard to say what happened, or how bad the break was. She'll get the best care though, better than most of us would get.

I thought in previous thread someone said they already got her back to USA?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2024 06:38 PM (Cus5s)

206 nood nancy
Posted by: andycanuck
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[considers]
uh...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2024 06:38 PM (XeU6L)

207 185 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)
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I have no idea if he's become another quasi-vegetable a la Biden but I wonder if he knows that the Baby Jesus in the Vatican Nativity is wearing that checkered Arafat tablecloth.

Posted by: Ciampino - fromage mon cherie at December 13, 2024 06:39 PM (i0xsb)

208 The reason I like trapdoor springfields is because I never have to worry about destroying a unique rifle by using it.
Posted by: Kindltot

One of my saddest days ever was when I lost my 1875 Springfield Trapdoor Carbine. I mean, the lake offered a King's ransom for it. What was I to do?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2024 06:39 PM (WXNFJ)

209 Nude Nanzi would make me sick

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:41 PM (fwDg9)

210 Nude Nanzi would make me sick
Posted by: Skip

Well yes - but be honest - we've done worse things while under the influence back in the day.

Not proud of it but still. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2024 06:43 PM (WXNFJ)

211 There is a handbook around about cartridge conversions and what brass can be used to make what cartridge. Dunno if it is currently made but sometimes really old reloading manuals like those by Phil Sharpe, etc. post WWII have some consideration of cartridge conversions due to scarce ammo from foreign sources.
Posted by: whig at December 13, 2024 06:32 PM (ctrM5)


Probably John Donnelly's cartridge conversion book, there was an older one too but I think this one has modern brass in it.
FWIW a quick search suggested using .357 Sig brass, but you really want to research these things before getting all the dies

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2024 06:46 PM (D7oie)

212 Looks like the endorsement is from a neocon's neocon but we'll see. He works for a neocon rag.

xAI:
Bernard Hudson served as the Director of Counterterrorism for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). His career spans 28 years within the Agency, where he was known for his roles in various field assignments and at CIA headquarters. His final position was as the head of the Counterterrorism Center, where he directed all aspects of the CIA's efforts in the Global War on Terror. After retiring from the CIA, he became a non-resident fellow at Harvard University's Belfer Center

Posted by: John Smith at December 13, 2024 06:53 PM (0QY8a)

213 Mayorkas says there are no drones. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2024 06:55 PM (63Dwl)

214 National Review is now bending the knee?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2024 05:35 PM (ZOv7s)

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No. They're creaming thier pants over a neocon's endorsemen..

Posted by: John Smith at December 13, 2024 06:58 PM (0QY8a)

215 Mayorkas says there are no drones. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2024 06:55 PM (63Dwl)
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Obvious military testing. There is no Iranian mothership.... geezzz

Posted by: John Smith at December 13, 2024 07:00 PM (0QY8a)

216 Pelosi was seen tightly gripping the hand of a GOP congressman before she fell. Did that sly dog give her a little shove?
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No need. Just goose her at the top of the stairs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2024 07:59 PM (YqDXo)

217 185 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)
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He had a prior commitment at the opening of a mosque.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2024 08:01 PM (YqDXo)

218 When Tulsi girlbosses, it’s legit. Not that bogus LARPing that TikTok Karen Nation does.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2024 05:40 PM (17uwn)

Never seen Tusli girlbossing even when cutting Kamala down to size. She was being a leader.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2024 08:14 PM (n7h9X)

219 Pope Francis is not looking good. He skipped the reopening of Notre Dame and I believe bad health is the issue.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 06:31 PM (gUEAT)
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I have no idea if he's become another quasi-vegetable a la Biden but I wonder if he knows that the Baby Jesus in the Vatican Nativity is wearing that checkered Arafat tablecloth.
Posted by: Ciampino - fromage mon cherie at December 13, 2024 06:39 PM (i0xsb)

The Pope and Communism don't mix, as John Paul II

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2024 08:16 PM (n7h9X)

220 I thought in previous thread someone said they already got her back to USA?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2024 06:38 PM (Cus5s)

Fed Ex is really efficient these days.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2024 08:17 PM (n7h9X)

221 If Hillary hates her, she has to be pretty good.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 13, 2024 06:05 PM (+oR7L)

She has Kamala Harris' 2020 Presidential Campaign mounted as a trophy over her fireplace.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2024 08:18 PM (n7h9X)

222 I don't know who said it, some man who fought against Marxist terrorists and killed many. He was asked if he was bothered by killing so many people. He replied he didn't kill people, he killed Communists.
I have gotten to the point where I feel the same about the IDF killing off the Palis. Who cares? The Palis give their kids coloring books teaching them to stab Jews.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at December 13, 2024 08:34 PM (vvIbr)

223 And if someone tells me I am not being Christian, I was warned repeatedly not to listen to Christian Nationalists. I have taken that to heart and will not let it influence me on politics.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at December 13, 2024 08:35 PM (vvIbr)

224 184 Somebody had an Uberti Henry reproduction for sale a while back. It was reasonably inexpensive. Turns out it was one of a few they re-produced in the original Henry cartridge .44-40 Rimfire, which nobody has made in over 100 years.

Er uh. Nope.
The .44 Henry looks like a fat .22 short cartridge.
It is much shorter and less powerful than the .44-40 round.

Posted by: waepnedmann at December 14, 2024 12:44 AM (UvigU)

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