Claim: Words Were Written on Assassin's Bullets -- "Deny," "Depose," and "Defend" -- Which Reference an Anti-Health-Care-Corporation Book

Leftwing agitation never leads to violence, which is why the straight-shooters of the FBI focus all of their attention on 70-year-old grandmothers who posted tweets about the 2020 election being stolen.

I wonder if they mean the shell casings had the words written on them. It seems unlikely these words would be written on bullets, or that the bullets would be intact enough to read these scratches as words.

Police investigating the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson found engraved messages on bullets used in the killing. The words, eerily resembling a book title critical of the insurance industry, hint at a possible motive.
Key Details:
Brian Thompson, 50, was fatally shot outside the Midtown Hilton Hotel on December 4, 2024.
NYPD recovered bullets and casings engraved with the words "deny," "depose," and "defend."
The suspect used a silenced weapon, fled on an e-bike, and may have left a phone near the crime scene.
Diving Deeper:
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was killed in what police are calling a "targeted" assassination outside a luxury Manhattan hotel early Wednesday morning. The 50-year-old executive was ambushed at close range by a masked gunman wielding a silenced firearm.
The NYPD discovered a chilling clue among the evidence: live rounds and shell casings engraved with the words "deny," "depose," and "defend." These words closely align with the title of a 2010 book critical of the insurance industry, Delay, Deny, Defend: Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It.
Thompson, who had been CEO of UnitedHealthcare since 2021, was in town to host an investor conference. Surveillance footage shows the suspect waiting outside the Hilton Hotel before firing multiple shots at Thompson, striking his back and leg. The attack continued even as the victim attempted to crawl away.

The assassin didn't have his mask on when he was caught on a videocamera at the youth hostel he was presumably staying in.

The NYPD has released new photos of the gunman who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, on Wednesday outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown.
The new images show the suspect's face, which had previously been hidden behind a mask, with the gunman even seen flashing a smile.
The photos were taken from an Upper West Side youth hostel where police believe he might have been staying at before the shooting.

I'm comfortable with my initial reaction that this is an antifa or antifa-adjacent political killing. I don't believe the wife hired this killer. A hired killer doesn't laugh and grin about his upcoming murder. This is a politically-motivated assassin who is savoring the thought of taking that ecstatic shot.

Update: I was sloppy. This isn't necessarily the killer, just a "person of interest."

Tim Pool
@Timcast
i dont think this is the shooter.
Different backpack
Thats why they said person of interest

Maybe he just shared a room with the killer or something. But if he's an innocent, why does the NYPD have to put out his picture to find him? A non-criminal would presumably have checked into the hostel using, get this, his real name.

America's Oldest Fake Teenager Taylor Lorenz -- who whines incessantly about online bullies sending her "death threats" and "hate" -- took zero time before celebrating the assassination as Righteous Kill.

Not content with praising and defending the first assassination, Tay-Tay set herself to suggesting who the assassins should murder next:

She's now claiming she wasn't calling for the murders of executives when she justified the murders of executives. She was just a "reporter" "reporting" on the sentiment surrounding a story.

>be taylor lorenz
>celebrate the assassination of a CEO you never heard about before because our healthcare industry is bad or something
>deny you said it
>respond to screenshots proving that you said it with further justification for the assassination pic.twitter.com/p9KpnxwZL8
— Mike Solana (@micsolana) December 5, 2024

NEW: The man who m*rdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson inscribed the words “deny,” “defend” & “depose” on the shell casings that were left at the scene.

The masked ass*ssin is still on the run as details of his whereabouts remain unknown.

The inscription could be linked… pic.twitter.com/71mTCOOgN1
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 5, 2024

Is this really the shooter? pic.twitter.com/niJWNL9PqU
— 🥜🫃🏼💉🇺🇦🥥Hollaria Briden, Esq. (@HollyBriden) December 5, 2024

If the heavy teenage-girl eyeliner didn't give it away, that's a photoshop of Taylor Lorenz.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 05, 2024 12:00 PM (CflQn)

2 Lorenz was only fired because WaPo is a puppet of Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

3 TayTayLoLo: I'm against death and suffering.

Also TayTayLoLo: Vote for Forever War! And killing people who disagree with me! And murdering babies!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:03 PM (ExV1e)

4 Jake Gyllenhall is the shooter?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2024 12:03 PM (2UnvF)

5 Left wing nut for sure

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2024 12:03 PM (KQk9m)

6 the left is mentally unhinged and should be red flagged and kept from ANYTHING remotely close to a sharp object...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 05, 2024 12:03 PM (nXhwP)

7 Corgis, informed and shit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (ExV1e)

8 Leftwinger murders Leftwinger.

This has no effect on my life and I won't pretend it does.

Posted by: Regular American at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (Gz6Ca)

9 I've thought that the election of Trump would cause a resurgence in urban terrorism, a la the Weather Underground, the Red Brigades, and the Red Army Faction.

This may the beginning, and it's disturbing to see how many people are celebrating this assassination.

Any Leftist terrorist organization operating in the US will have a substantial base of support.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)

10 130 https://x.com/ShadowofEzra
/status
/1864398068575039671

Shadow of Ezra
@ShadowofEzra
On February 21, 2024, UnitedHealth discovered a cybersecurity breach.

On the same day, Nancy Pelosi made her second purchase of call options in Palo Alto Networks, a cybersecurity company that was later chosen to investigate the breach.

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was k*lled by a masked gunman today in the middle of a federal investigation led by the U.S. Department of Justice.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (KcwUg)

11 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (9gDA7)

12 I'm actually surprised it took the left this long to start into openly murdering their villains.

(Trump being one they've failed on so far.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 05, 2024 12:05 PM (N1DT3)

13 The left is vile and disgusting.

Judgement Day will be VERY interesting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2024 12:05 PM (9gDA7)

14 Dude looks very feminine, probably had his transition surgery denied.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)

15 254 I just finished the 'Saw' series. Really enjoyable. I look forward to seeing them again.

In one of the later 'Saw' films, Jigsaw kidnaps the chief executive of an insurance company and his insurance team that denied him a chance at an experimental procedure to save his life.

It didn't end well for most of them.

Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (jvJvP)

16 The person in the bottommost pic looks like a woman.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (v6JzV)

17 Morning.

I wonder if Lozeng's problem couldn't be solved with a nice deep dicking.

Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (1Yy3c)

18 It is staggering the imagination to discover just how many clinically insane people are allowed to just wander about. Both IRL and online.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (Q4IgG)

19 Afternoon Ace. Willowed
Taylor Lorenz is becoming the modern day real life Madame Dufarge. She was the crone from Great Expectations who predicted doom on the regime and its allies in France. Dickens didn't mention her fate but Taylor would look great in a guillotine

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (FxDm7)

20 16 The person in the bottommost pic looks like a woman.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (v6JzV)

I think it's Lorenz

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2024 12:08 PM (IyPmt)

21 >>> I think it's Lorenz

yes, it's a p-shop of Lorenz as the killer.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)

22 He had to clear jams several times and that rejects a bullet, so engraving could be scratches in lead.
Still going back and forth weather one guy/family or more antifa like.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 05, 2024 12:09 PM (4780s)

23 Correction: A Tale of Two Cities not Great Expectations

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:09 PM (FxDm7)

24 Ace, I was skeptical, but you were right.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 05, 2024 12:09 PM (8XYYe)

25 21 >>> I think it's Lorenz

yes, it's a p-shop of Lorenz as the killer.
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)

======

And you're not even a disinformation expert.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

26 I think it's Lorenz

yes, it's a p-shop of Lorenz as the killer.
Posted by: ace

Ah, thanks.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (v6JzV)

27 I think the shooter will be caught soon, too. He sort of wants to be.

Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (RRCAT)

28 To the Media and anti-2A guys, BIRM, a "bullet" is a casing+bullet together. Because they are uneducated fools.

And Microstamping can "magically" happen while a bullet is being fired down a barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Scott_T at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (2waQ7)

29 I'll say it again. Taylor Lorenz is an antique, dried up twat that should be pointed and laughed at wholeheartedly at every available opportunity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (9gDA7)

30 Maybe a big rain will come and wash all the streets clean?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (jFCkp)

31 The first pic looks like Eminem.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (J2vNu)

32 23 Correction: A Tale of Two Cities not Great Expectations
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:09 PM (FxDm7)

======

False.

Madame Defarge is from History of the World Part I!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

33 Dickens didn't mention her fate but Taylor would look great in a guillotine
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I thought she got shot by the guy who was the banker's factotum.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (v6JzV)

34 From the pics, this guy has both a gray and a black backpack?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (CflQn)

35 Left over WWII French lefties trying desperately to remain relevant. ANTIFAG EU style in town... FUCK YOU PUNK ASS BITCHES>>>>

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (Zxhv7)

36 I don’t know about Health Insurance but I do know that casualty insurance companies generally pay out more in claims than they make in premiums. At one time when I worked for Liberty Mutual they were happy that we lowered the ratio to 1.14 to 1.0 of claims paid to premium received.

They make their money on investment of the premium dollar.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:11 PM (D6PGr)

37 Maybe a big rain will come and wash all the streets clean?"

Learn to swim...

Posted by: Tool at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (TN0g+)

38 @32 don't get saucy with me Bernaise

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (FxDm7)

39 If that’s the murderer in those maskless photos he will be caught. Those pics are clear enough that anyone who knows him will recognize…. NYPD probably already knows his name.

I may despise UHC practices but this went way way over the line. It’s disgusting that anyone would defend it, including mentally ill TL

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (OW907)

40 As we were discussing below, we have a nearly fully fascist business model of health care:
All the "health insurance" companies are merely administrators for ObamaCare.

While there is technically "private" health care--all of them are minutely managed and regulated by the government.

The health insurance companies spent billions in lobbying to pass--and keep--ObamaCare.
Because being the pass-through administrator of 1/6 of the US economy is insanely profitable.

But you'll never, ever, ever convince the left of any actual facts about health care in this country.
They won't even let go of the completely debunked, discredited, absolutely false, and ridiculous "study" by Warren that claimed 1/5 of bankruptcies were due to medical expense.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (rNE21)

41 Rebel without a clue!!! LMAO..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (Zxhv7)

42 I've been expecting revenge killings for people who were coerced into getting the jabs and then died or were injured.

Especially if the truth of how harmful the shots are ever come out - which will be society collapsing.

My first thought for this guy was if it was jab related.

Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (jvJvP)

43 It's lovely to see poor victim young lady Taylor Lorenz confessing she wants a class of people dead. Very classy. Why are you guys victimizing her???

Posted by: chique at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (0efB3)

44 Nate Silver's comment is 100% accurate.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (qBdHI)

45 Sniff Sniff OR I smell Hillary

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (Zxhv7)

46 40 But you'll never, ever, ever convince the left of any actual facts about health care in this country.
They won't even let go of the completely debunked, discredited, absolutely false, and ridiculous "study" by Warren that claimed 1/5 of bankruptcies were due to medical expense.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (rNE21)

======

"That government control of healthcare has made healthcare in America worse is just proof that more government control is necessary to fix the issues."
-the best you'll ever get

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

47 Obviously, those are pictures of Pete Hegseth. Unless it's one of us.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (1bNHn)

48 Calcified Taylor Lorenz is really a disturbed mess.

Posted by: scampydog at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (2bFN5)

49 Interesting, Sebastian. I could not figure out how they made money in a place like CA which is a constant disaster zone.

Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (RRCAT)

50 Other than that though, how did the Investor Conference go?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (aMcXa)

51 44 Nate Silver's comment is 100% accurate.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 12:13 PM (qBdHI)

=====

Well, since it's Silver, the best we can do is 70%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

52
Learn to swim...
Posted by: Tool at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (TN0g+)

The pool

Is now

Open

Posted by: Fishbone at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (9gDA7)

53 My first thought for this guy was if it was jab related.
Posted by: Stateless

Same.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (8XYYe)

54 @33 Bulg , you are correct I forget about Miss Pross

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (FxDm7)

55 My wife thought it interesting that the shooter knew where to find the ceo.

She works for a large health insurance company, and even employees are not allowed to know the location of their ceo, unless, for example, he's showing up for a company town hall.

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (JfxgE)

56 Rich people screw over the common man so much I’m surprised there aren’t more acts of violence.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (OV4GJ)

57 To the Media and anti-2A guys, BIRM, a "bullet" is a casing+bullet together. Because they are uneducated fools.

And Microstamping can "magically" happen while a bullet is being fired down a barrel of a gun.
Posted by: Scott_T at December 05, 2024 12:10 PM (2waQ7)

What do you call a bullet and casing together?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (D6PGr)

58 "p-shop of Lorenz"

Uh, what does she sell at her store? Do I want to know?

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (zSyrn)

59 A Dem Op. You can tell by the stoopid as fuck tranny photo and engraved shell casings. Please!!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (Zxhv7)

60 If that’s the murderer in those maskless photos he will be caught. Those pics are clear enough that anyone who knows him will recognize…. NYPD probably already knows his name.

--

Yes, it's only a matter of time. Then, depending on his identity, the story will disappear in direct relation to whether or not it makes the left look bad.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (qBdHI)

61 We were tossing around suggestions for a Christmas movie to put one in the mood. There's 1947's The Bishop's Wife w/ Cary Grant, Loretta Young, and David Niven. And a movie from the same time period, 1949, Holiday Affair. It's a rom-com, from what I dimly recall from the Late Show. But you get the young Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh, and (says IMDb) a small early role for Harry "Col. Potter" Morgan, when he was still known as "Henry" Morgan.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

62 That hostel pic - Carlos the Wolf or the Ghost of Kyiv?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (Aqu9a)

63 It didn't end well for most of them.
Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (jvJvP)

It wouldn't be a Saw movie if everyone had happy endings.

I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Not like Natural Born Killers.

In my movie the serial killers would be admiring each other from afar, right? They don't know who the other person actually is. They get a sense of the kind of person the other is by the style of the killing and their choice of victims.

Say, how would the Horde feel about giving me money to fund this?

Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (1Yy3c)

64 Pardon me Ms. Lorenz but your crazy is showing.

Keep in mind, there are dozens more like Lorenz still working at the NYT's.

Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (G0vdT)

65 Words Were Written on Assassin's Bullets -- "Deny," "Depose," and "Defend"

I'll take "Shit That Didn't Happen" for $2,000 Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (xYpKG)

66 My first thought for this guy was if it was jab related

I would think in that case the rage would be directed at pharma execs

Posted by: Halfhand at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (9Yuya)

67 The left’s ability to other people they don’t like (or have been told they don’t like) is astounding. This man had a job and he did it. If you want a CEO salary, apply to be a CEO. Just remember, it’s like the salaries of athletes, though. I am not going to get paid the same amount of money to play basketball as Kobe Bryant. Why? Because I am 5’1, 53 and female. This doesn’t make it unfair or inequitable. It just is.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (p4NUW)

68 As long as the killer was wearing covid mask it was totes OK.

Posted by: Ripley at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (GUOwU)

69 But you get the young Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh, and (says IMDb) a small early role for Harry "Col. Potter" Morgan, when he was still known as "Henry" Morgan.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

And Wendell Corey. And Janet Leigh is a smokeshow.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:17 PM (v6JzV)

70 We were tossing around suggestions for a Christmas movie to put one in the mood. There's 1947's The Bishop's Wife w/ Cary Grant, Loretta Young, and David Niven. And a movie from the same time period, 1949, Holiday Affair. It's a rom-com, from what I dimly recall from the Late Show. But you get the young Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh, and (says IMDb) a small early role for Harry "Col. Potter" Morgan, when he was still known as "Henry" Morgan.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

David Niven is thoroughly unlikable in The Bishop’s Wife…. Even Cary Grant can’t save that film. It does not get me into the Christmas spirit

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (OW907)

71 What do you call a bullet and casing together?

A cartridge

Posted by: Halfhand at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (9Yuya)

72 Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (1Yy3c)

Seven Psychopaths . Though it’s somewhat of a dark comedy though not really dark. I don’t know how else to describe it except I thought it was pretty good.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (D6PGr)

73 Notice how the simpleton justifies her belief: Health Care executives MURDER!!! people themselves.

See, she's just fightin' the Nazis!

Posted by: Jay in PA at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (i7Q7S)

74 This Lorenz fellow is a bit of a dick.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (Mr3fH)

75 55 My wife thought it interesting that the shooter knew where to find the ceo.

She works for a large health insurance company, and even employees are not allowed to know the location of their ceo, unless, for example, he's showing up for a company town hall.
Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2024 12:14 PM (JfxgE)

It was Investor Day...that's why the guy waited hours. He knew the CEO had to show up eventually for a publicly announced event.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (exHjb)

76 Okay, Taylor, where do you stand on abortion?

Abortion is fine? I guess you didn't really mean it when you said you don't believe in death and suffering.

But, you be you and proclaim how it's righteous for you to call out hypocrisy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (tT6L1)

77 64 Pardon me Ms. Lorenz but your crazy is showing.

Keep in mind, there are dozens more like Lorenz still working at the NYT's.
Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (G0vdT)
_______
How many write for the NYT? That's how many who are Lorenz level insane.

I tend to distrust institutionalizing people against their will, but there are some exceptions.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (1bNHn)

78 the left is mentally unhinged and should be red flagged and kept from ANYTHING remotely close to a sharp object...
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 05, 2024

***
Or kept from mechanisms to hurl small bits of metal at high speed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (J2vNu)

79 Its a tax

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (QSrLX)

80 The panopticon grinds slowly but exceedingly fine. Once LE gets to examine every ring, store camera, and traffic camera they will track their man to some defining feature.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (aD39U)

81 30 Maybe a big rain will come and wash all the streets clean?
Posted by: Pudinhead at

No, but a strong rain may come and wash all the crops away.

Posted by: Patches at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (D4XB9)

82 Huh. I figured Lorenz would have been one of the early people to bolt Twitter for the cesspool that is Bluesky.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (oCS0o)

83 I think this is going to wind up being something very very personal that got taken out on Brian Thompson. When Ace started talking about the possibility of it being Antifa and not looking "professional", it brought back a lot of memories of dealing with these damn companies when my husband was dying. I'm not in any way justifying what this dickhead did, but people don't understand how unbelievably callous they are.

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (33LJY)

84 I bet you guys didn't know that not wearing a mask around Taylor and breathing is LITERAL MURDER!!!!

Posted by: Jay in PA at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (i7Q7S)

85 The Taylor Lorenz Deny Depose Defend Meme Coin initial offering is expected to fetch $2.7 billion dollars....

Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (TGPs7)

86 Dude looks very feminine, probably had his transition surgery denied.

--

I thought he looked like that Strangio tranny lawyer arguing before the SCOTUS right now.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (qBdHI)

87 Death panels? oh no. noooo no

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (QSrLX)

88 David Niven is thoroughly unlikable in The Bishop’s Wife…. Even Cary Grant can’t save that film. It does not get me into the Christmas spirit
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024

***
I gotta admit . . . I have it on DVD. And it is slow by today's standards; I've never finished it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (J2vNu)

89 If you want a CEO salary, apply to be a CEO.

With all the legal liabilities that high executives face from Sarbox, etc., those high salaries can be justified.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (v6JzV)

90 I slightly disagree with Mark Halperin's assertion that a Trump victory would cause the greatest mental health crisis in US history.

We've been living through the greatest mental health crisis in US history for a few decades. Trump's victory is just causing it to be visible to people who tried to ignore it.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (LkLld)

91 Apropos of nothing, I am eating some oatmeal whose bestby date is in 2022.

It tastes just a bit off.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (aD39U)

92 I'm surprised they didn't say the words on the bullets were "Make America Great Again."

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (1bNHn)

93 From some X guy's post, I think the three bullets with the engraving were left at the scene, but not fired.

"@johncardillo
I seriously doubt the shooter used a $2200 weapon with an integrated suppressor that is purposefully designed to not be semi auto.

They found three live rounds at the scene which indicates cleared malfunctions."

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (Cus5s)

94 80 The panopticon grinds slowly but exceedingly fine. Once LE gets to examine every ring, store camera, and traffic camera they will track their man to some defining feature.
-------------
Odds the guy was packing a cell phone?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (jFCkp)

95
I thought the wife was involved, as they were separated and living in separate homes.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (+oR7L)

96 The assassin didn't have his mask on when he was caught on a videocamera at the youth hostel he was presumably staying in.

He looks young and handsome...like Ché or Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Guess we have next issues cover!!!

Posted by: Rolling Stone Magazine at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (S+YRA)

97 These a-holes are playing a game with people’s lives. Gonna come back on them hard and fast, when it gets old.

Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (jgmnb)

98 Just to go on record:
I support gunning down feral leftists like Lorenz far more than insurance executives now matter how greedy.

Insurance companies serve a purpose even when run heartlessly. Their executives can be sued, arrested, regulated or otherwise be restricted.

Leftists are as useful as cancer and can only be exterminated.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (jbnUc)

99 83 I think this is going to wind up being something very very personal that got taken out on Brian Thompson. When Ace started talking about the possibility of it being Antifa and not looking "professional", it brought back a lot of memories of dealing with these damn companies when my husband was dying. I'm not in any way justifying what this dickhead did, but people don't understand how unbelievably callous they are.
Posted by: Ktgreat at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (33LJY)

Amen. My doc was livid he couldn't get the treatment he wanted for me, EVEN though it's in the NCCN guidelines, which are supposed to be 100% followed.

And no, if the Aetna CEO ends up dead today, it's not me. I've got a broken toe.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (exHjb)

100 Cut/Jib google it! This tranny could be a useful idiot. I read years ago that if 100 people in powerful places were never born the world could be a peaceful utopia!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (Zxhv7)

101 I’ve heard it from a couple of “experts” already that silencers are illegal. Sure, I have one in my range bag in my car, but you can’t argue with experts.

Of course, gunning people down on the sidewalk is itself illegal, so I not sure what point they are trying to make.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (Mr3fH)

102 Taylor Lorenz, clear and present danger.

Posted by: Uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not kill at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (gxokI)

103 The panopticon grinds slowly but exceedingly fine. Once LE gets to examine every ring, store camera, and traffic camera they will track their man to some defining feature.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (aD39U)

This is true. And yet they STILL haven’t ID’d the J6 pipe bomber. Top. Men. at the FBI….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (P/Wjn)

104 82 Huh. I figured Lorenz would have been one of the early people to bolt Twitter for the cesspool that is Bluesky.
Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (oCS0o)
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She probably did, but found out that everyone there (except her, of course) was a meanie and a poopyhead.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (1bNHn)

105 I've always thought Loretta Young was insipid. Never got the appeal there.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (v6JzV)

106 I thought the wife was involved, as they were separated and living in separate homes.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (+oR7L

Can’t rule it out just yet.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (D6PGr)

107 One often overlooked Christmas movie is Stalag 17. It’s really an interesting insight into the humanity of man during the holidays.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2024 12:23 PM (OV4GJ)

108 Back when there were anti-abortion assassins the FNM would demand every pro-life politician answer, personally, whether they supported them.

Arguing in favor of one of those assassinations, as Lorenz does here, would have ended your media career, and hell, Bitch McConnell teamed up with the Democrats to enact FACE which made peaceful anti-abortion protest illegal.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:23 PM (oZhjI)

109 95
I thought the wife was involved, as they were separated and living in separate homes.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (+oR7L)

Nah, they've been that way 6 years...live in separate homes near each other like Vance's grandparents...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2024 12:23 PM (exHjb)

110 By the socialist standards Lorenz is referencing she is a much a villain of the bourgeois as that executive was and just as deserving of "revolutionary justice"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (oZhjI)

111
You have been found guilty of crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Antifa Star Chamber at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (+oR7L)

112 I'm just going to throw this out there and I want to be clear that I'm someone who is against death and suffering but... if society is going to be okay with the murder of healthcare payment administrators... maybe socialized medicine might be okay after all. It'd certainly make life interesting for the government drones working on it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (ExV1e)

113 The speckle-ation on this will go on for some time, is my guess.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pledge in a Beanie at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (xPJvm)

114 fled on an e-bike

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Well, we know he isn't a conservative anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (L/fGl)

115 One often overlooked Christmas movie is Stalag 17. It’s really an interesting insight into the humanity of man during the holidays.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 05, 2024 12:23 PM (OV4GJ)

The Christmas scene is the worst part of the movie imo.

I don’t care how long I’m a POW I ain’t dancing with my bunk mate.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (D6PGr)

116 I've always thought Loretta Young was insipid. Never got the appeal there.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024

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Beautiful creature to look at, and she headlined Hollywood for a couple of decades (and then TV). But I can't recall any particular movies she was in other than Bishop's Wife.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (J2vNu)

117 What is an e-bike, anyway. Like a motor scooter?

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (v6JzV)

118 PHV, it started with the change in Medicare/Medicaid rules in the early nineties, especially that could not charge government more than private rate, which led to all sorts of pricing shenanigans.
Then came HIPPA, then electronic medical records.
All requiring administrators, not medical care.
Obama care just formalized government control of healthcare.
MAKE MEDICINE LOCAL AGAIN!!!!

Posted by: From about That Time at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (4780s)

119 I’ll wager this had nothing to do with the covid jab. Someone angry about that would go at Pfizer or Moderna execs….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (P/Wjn)

120 Also she is glowing. That means she had sex within the last 45 min.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (J8LnB)

121 110 By the socialist standards Lorenz is referencing she is a much a villain of the bourgeois as that executive was and just as deserving of "revolutionary justice"
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (oZhjI)

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Modern socialists consider proletariat work to be online addicted thought workers. Those who create things with their hands are the bourgeois.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

122 95
I thought the wife was involved, as they were separated and living in separate homes.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:21 PM (+oR7L)
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No, she and Niven are still together in the movie.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (1bNHn)

123 What do you call a bullet and casing together?

A cartridge
Posted by: Halfhand at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (9Yuya)

Seems like a lot of places have given up and started calling a cartridge a bullet and a bullet a projectile.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (ExV1e)

124 "But you'll never, ever, ever convince the left of any actual facts about health care in this country.
They won't even let go of the completely debunked, discredited, absolutely false, and ridiculous "study" by Warren that claimed 1/5 of bankruptcies were due to medical expense.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice"

Fixing health care in this country will requiring transforming insurance into what it was many years ago: Coverage for catastrophic events. Along with price transparency prices would plummet 50% overnight (and continue falling) if this were to happen. Doctors already give huge discounts for cash payments. Any attempts to get more coverage just shoots prices and overhead higher. Nothing is free.

But that will never be allowed to happen.

Posted by: Ripley at December 05, 2024 12:26 PM (GUOwU)

125 Now-now,, don't be too hard on Taylor. When I was a wee tike, she was the best babysitter I ever had...

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 05, 2024 12:26 PM (EFZgU)

126 Speaking of crime . . .

I guess Joe was right. Hunter is the smartest guy he knows.

Paul Sperry@paulsperry
NEW: Two months before leaving office, Biden's suddenly decided to pledge $1 bil in US aid to Africa. Hunter & his "business" partners James Gillian+Rob Walker had discussed "developing projects in Africa" in 2017, per federal investigation docs #BidenInfluencePeddling #Kickbacks

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Amazing how he's always in the right place at the right time!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

127 who wants to place a bet that Biden will pardon Pelosi of all crimes ?

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 12:26 PM (QTCRF)

128
Taylor Lorenz will soon be calling for social scoring, and jailing/termination based on that score.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (+oR7L)

129 I don’t know why I didn’t think of it right off…. The best Christmas movie to get you in the spirit of the holidays is, no contest, Diehard!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (P/Wjn)

130 This may the beginning, and it's disturbing to see how many people are celebrating this assassination.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)

avoid reddit at all costs then. i made the mistake of glancing at a thread on there last night, not realizing it was directly related to this at first, and ho boy were the estatic about the murder of a fellow, and the justification was something to behold

not in a good way....

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (nXhwP)

131 Despite the clear face photo of the killer, it's an almost trivial thing to change your facial appearance these days.
Look what Madonna did to her face, for instance.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (c6hLR)

132 Beautiful creature to look at, and she headlined Hollywood for a couple of decades (and then TV). But I can't recall any particular movies she was in other than Bishop's Wife.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

She was in a silent flick with Lon Chaney, Sr. Also, The Farmer's Daughter.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (v6JzV)

133 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024

It doesn't get me into the Christmas Spirit, but I like the movie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (PvtcE)

134 Once LE gets to examine every ring, store camera, and traffic camera they will track their man to some defining feature.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (aD39U)

First they have to finish jerking it over the fact that the guy appears to be white.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (ExV1e)

135 What do you call a bullet and casing together?

When a bullet and a casing love each other very much...

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (pfmLp)

136 My first impression from that smile isn't revenge, more like, "I'm Special."

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (i0F8b)

137 Seems like a lot of places have given up and started calling a cartridge a bullet and a bullet a projectile.
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Those people are known as reporters. They are fucking clueless.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (jFCkp)

138 By the way the "problem with healthcare in America" is stupidly simple - most people want everything free or at a nominal cost and in turn don't want to pay for the bills that come with that.

Health insurance, as currently implemented is not insurance, it is a health care payment pool. And for every expensive treatment someone in the pool gets every has to pay more - those miracle AIDS drugs and "gender affirming surgery" aren't cheap.

The most direct solution is to ban insurance of this type. Allow catastrophic which would cover you if you get cancer or in a car accident, but you'd have to personally pay for your physical/blood work/etc.

The "problem" with that is the FNM would go nuts with every sad sack story they could find of someone not being able to pay to get zer dick cut off.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (oZhjI)

139 Addi@SmallAddi
🚨BREAKING: Howard Stern is demanding that all Trump supporters must stop listening to his radio show. What’s your reaction to this?

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Way ahead of ya, big guy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (L/fGl)

140 Look what Madonna did to her face, for instance.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (c6hLR)
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Hey, now, that's for Halloween, not Christmas!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

141 Now-now,, don't be too hard on Taylor. When I was a wee tike, she was the best babysitter I ever had...

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 05, 2024

***
Taylor is so old, she was technical advisor on The Greatest Story Ever Told because she'd dated Pontius Pilate!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (J2vNu)

142 Pretty soon we're going to witness "celebrity assassins" who act out their fevered dreams in real life.

If Mz. Lorenz was to act on her impulses what does one suppose would happen to her? Equal treatment by the judicial system we have now? Like Daniel Penny?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (Q4IgG)

143 Also she is glowing. That means she had sex within the last 45 min.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (J8LnB)

I did not know that.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2024 12:28 PM (Aqu9a)

144
avoid reddit at all costs then. i made the mistake of glancing at a thread on there last night, not realizing it was directly related to this at first, and ho boy were the estatic about the murder of a fellow, and the justification was something to behold

Remember during COVID the left was spinning their activists up to get ready to put anyone that wouldn't get the clot shot in a concentration camp.

I suspect what saved us there is that the number of people that got the clot shot is a fraction (probably half) of the number claimed.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:29 PM (oZhjI)

145 I think Howard is way behind the curve with the demand Trump supporters stop listening to his show.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:29 PM (tT6L1)

146 First, murdering people is never an option but the state of Healthcare in this country is horrendous. If anything hopefully this brings up discussions on how to fix things. I'm 35 and a plumber that doesn't have insurance. I don't have a family so I don't really care if I kick the bucket but if I did have a family and paid an arm and a leg for insurance only to be denied coverage on something, I could understand why people could be tempted to point thier rage at some corporate guy in charge of things......

Posted by: Whirligiginator at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (FLJFl)

147 Smell the Glove

Mme. DeFarge was shot in self-defence by Miss Pross.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (mAz5r)

148 Seems like a lot of places have given up and started calling a cartridge a bullet and a bullet a projectile.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (ExV1e)

Sort of my point . It’s like getting angry when people refer to it as the Congressional Medal of Honor .

I do still refer to rifle rounds as cartridges but occasionally refer to pistol rounds as bullets though mostly just describe them by their caliber.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (D6PGr)

149 Yeah well transitioning drugs about to be outlawed for kids soooo..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (Zxhv7)

150 🚨BREAKING: Howard Stern is demanding that all Trump supporters must stop listening to his radio show. What’s your reaction to this?

How will I find out what lesbian midgets that eat light bulbs and are willing to spank Howard Sterns think of the important issues of the day then?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (oZhjI)

151 The BCBS CEO should sue her. False light invasion of privacy or something. There's got to be a cause of action in this somewhere.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (Dm8we)

152 First it's a cartridge or a round, then it transitions into a bullet and a casing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (L/fGl)

153 This isn't necessarily the killer, just a "person of interest."

A person who just happens to be wearing a very similar outfit.

Theory: the shooter had no fcking clue which door the CEO would emerge from; he was the 'lucky' one of several contestants that morning.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (KcwUg)

154 "127 who wants to place a bet that Biden will pardon Pelosi of all crimes ?"

Oh, I will! And I will even put up a valuable work of Art done by Hunter Biden in his own excrement!

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (zSyrn)

155 Where was Taylor Lorenz at 6:45 am? I know that bingo at the senior center doesn't start before 10 am.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (lTGtQ)

156 You don't even have money for cartridges.

Eathan Edwards

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (IDphi)

157 This assassination happened only a couple of blocks from where I work.

I can't believe this happened. Suppressors are illegal in NYC and I am pretty sure this was a gun free zone.
Don't you know that laws prevent crimes!!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (Oq/TM)

158 I don't think we are going to like how this turns out. There are a number of things that stick out. First, the book title. That's a standard reference book available anywhere and often used by people have had claims denied for various reasons. It's not an apparatchik material glorified by ANTIFA.

Secondly, the assassin seems sufficiently versed in fire arms (at least moderately so). He appears to be in relatively good shape. His demeanor suggests the ability to function under pressure. His planning and adherence to his planning suggest a well thought out exercise.

Finally, UnitedHealthcare has an offshoot that deals with Veterans, discharged Veterans and retired Veterans.

I think you can see where I'm going with that. We'll see.

Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (dIske)

159 breaking 11!!11

Some nobody demands something !!

end of breaking11!!11

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (QTCRF)

160 I recently had a fun go around with my insurance provider because they had to have a breakdown of every charge against every claim code.

Its absurd.

This is not insurance. And the fact that I am paying people to then itemize my expenses and determine what they will cover...ultimately out of the money I pay them...is just idiocy.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (oZhjI)

161 Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at December 05, 2024 12:30 PM (mAz5r)

Miss Pross is a great character.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (PvtcE)

162 Were there unusual stock purchases just before the assassination?

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (i0F8b)

163 I might’ve used to think TL was stupid and vacuous and immature…. Her reaction to this tells me I was wrong. She is evil, period… end of sentence.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (P/Wjn)

164
I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (1Yy3c)

It's not exactly what you described, but check out the 'August Underground' trilogy.

It was a found footage type of movie with moving camera, which I hate, but it is pretty brutal, especially the second one. Free on Tubi or Roku I think.

I'll watch again. Really prepared me for 'Saw.'

Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (jvJvP)

165 56 Rich people screw over the common man so much I’m surprised there aren’t more acts of violence.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December

Is this sarcasm that I am missing? I hope?

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (pZEOD)

166 >>> 91 Apropos of nothing, I am eating some oatmeal whose bestby date is in 2022.

It tastes just a bit off.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:20 PM (aD39U)

Silly Grump, mix it with some hot water and give it to chickens.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (KcwUg)

167 Ethan Edwards

Darn fat thumbs

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (IDphi)

168 I think Howard is way behind the curve with the demand Trump supporters stop listening to his show.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:29 PM (tT6L1)

Who advertises on Howard Stern's shows? Do they have reasons to be concerned?

Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (rj6Yv)

169 Loretta Young started young. She was in some pre-code movies, starting around 1929. She was radiant and Clark Gable agreed.

Posted by: Happy Harry at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (D4XB9)

170 NYC then: Sure it may smell like piss but you can get Thai food at 3 AM and it is relatively safe

NYC now: Sure it may smell like piss but you can get Thai food at 3 AM

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (oZhjI)

171 They're not "cartridges."

Rather, they're the inserts needed to ensure the cordless hole puncher works properly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (tT6L1)

172 He will not be missed. I personally had a several-thousand-dollar fight with his shit show of benefit denial.

his family will surely miss him. I find this celebrating of his assassination on DU quite disturbing.

I'm fine with that. Turning the cheek and endlessly suffering is great if you are a Cristian I suppose. I’m not. And I don’t care. I’m all out of fucks to give for people like him.

it's "picking sides" times, and people are frustrated, with good reason. It's palpable out there. That event yesterday probably acted like a bat signal to every single Lee Harvey motherfucker out there.

I don't see it as celebration, it's survival in a lawless land, not a preening "OH! Look how virtuous I am!" stance. You can't worry about niceties when dealing with immoral, lawless folk. A criminal gaggle of literal rapists, scam artists, insurrectionists, traitors, and drunks are about to have complete control.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (S+YRA)

173 New York government officials are very concerned the perp used a silencer, which is illegal in that state. They can’t understand how a criminal would brazenly ignore their laws.

Let that sink in. No empathy for the victim. No reflection on the right of citizens to protect themselves. Zero reflection on an alleged justice system that persecutes instead of prosecutes. It’s a third-world government that is only obsessed with power and control.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (jlcJz)

174 104 82 Huh. I figured Lorenz would have been one of the early people to bolt Twitter for the cesspool that is Bluesky.
Posted by: Octochicken at December 05, 2024 12:19 PM (oCS0o)
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She probably did, but found out that everyone there (except her, of course) was a meanie and a poopyhead.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2024 12:22 PM (1bNHn)

She thrives on victimization, and probably gets more hate / self-validation on X.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (lg881)

175 Actually, I ride e-books on occasion. Walk downtown, too tired to walk the up hills to home.
Don't trust myself on the EU scooters though.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (4780s)

176 You know, I sometimes thought that parts of the Old Testament were a bit... harsh, by God.

The flood. Sodom and Gomorrah. The command to kill all the inhabitants of a land. God really inflicting pain on Egypt and the like.

But these last few years have changed my mind. It's now quite easy to see how God might just do a SMOD of flooding. Or some cultures of death just need to be exterminated. Were there a few good people? Yeah, probably. But God is the god of quick and dead, so He can spare the few good ones. And some societies like Sodom... He explicitly said find me ten good people and I won't do it. No one could find the ten good people.

So God burning the world soon? Totally plausible.

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (yf7Pm)

177 Huh. I figured Lorenz would have been one of the early people to bolt Twitter for the cesspool that is Bluesky.

Maybe she is one of the few lefties that isn't a pedo?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (oZhjI)

178 I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Posted by: Robert

Isn't that In Cold Blood?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (lTGtQ)

179 think Howard is way behind the curve with the demand Trump supporters stop listening to his show.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:29 PM (tT6L1)

I stopped over a decade ago even though I still have Sirius. He’s never been personally funny but I did enjoy the soap opera schtick of the show and his interviews.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (D6PGr)

180 Finally, UnitedHealthcare has an offshoot that deals with Veterans, discharged Veterans and retired Veterans.

I think you can see where I'm going with that. We'll see.
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (dIske)

To me anyway he looks too young to be a vet. I’m bad at estimating ages of the young but he looks 22 to me… in that range

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (P/Wjn)

181 It was a found footage type of movie with moving camera, which I hate
Posted by: Stateless

I nearly puked watching The Blair Witch Project in the theater.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (v6JzV)

182 127 who wants to place a bet that Biden will pardon Pelosi of all crimes ?
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 12:26 PM (QTCRF)

If Trump and Co. could prove the 2020 election was stolen without a doubt would that nullify Bidens powers as President?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (Zxhv7)

183 Who advertises on Howard Stern's shows? Do they have reasons to be concerned?
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (rj6Yv)
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Howard has delusions of relevance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (tT6L1)

184 Where do you go to get your bullets engraved? I'd like mine to read, "For Peanut the Squirrel."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (L/fGl)

185 157 Don't you know that laws prevent crimes!!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December

I am glad you weren’t there at the time. I mean, NYC is scary anyway now. I used to love going to the city- just be safe, please. Thank you.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (pZEOD)

186 Remember how Trump passed a rule that hospitals must publish a cash price list of all procedures?

And as soon as Biden took office, he refused to enforce that regulation?

Gosh, Democrats sure are protecting your health care, aren't they?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (rNE21)

187 "So God burning the world soon? Totally plausible."

From whence we get the phrase
"God fearing"

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (c6hLR)

188 175 Actually, I ride e-books on occasion.

That sounds like it would be rough on the spine.

Posted by: Book Woim at December 05, 2024 12:36 PM (D4XB9)

189 I wonder if Lozeng's problem couldn't be solved with a nice deep dicking.
Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (1Yy3c)

Are you volunteering? Because I'm not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 12:36 PM (Olsst)

190 Where do you go to get your bullets engraved? I'd like mine to read, "For Peanut the Squirrel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (L/fGl)

At the bullet bling store.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2024 12:36 PM (Aqu9a)

191 This entire romantic love affair the left has with simply killing people you don’t agree with is quite disturbing. Democrats just spent four years using the auspices of government to persecute people who don’t agree with them. They arguably used those same devices during COVID to kill people and deprive them of their civil rights. Where do they think that ends?

Posted by: Vengeance at December 05, 2024 12:36 PM (jlcJz)

192 Who advertises on Howard Stern's shows? Do they have reasons to be concerned?

Ashley Madison was one of his advertisers I remember...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:36 PM (oZhjI)

193 The NYC shooter roomed with the RNC/DNC pipe bomber at the youth hostel, which means he will never be found.

Posted by: Lex at December 05, 2024 12:37 PM (fMN7A)

194 172 it's "picking sides" times, and people are frustrated, with good reason. It's palpable out there. That event yesterday probably acted like a bat signal to every single Lee Harvey motherfucker out there.

I don't see it as celebration, it's survival in a lawless land, not a preening "OH! Look how virtuous I am!" stance. You can't worry about niceties when dealing with immoral, lawless folk. A criminal gaggle of literal rapists, scam artists, insurrectionists, traitors, and drunks are about to have complete control.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 05, 2024 12:33 PM (S+YRA)

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I wonder if they know how much UHC and this guy donated to Democrats

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

195 >> He explicitly said find me ten good people and I won't do it. No one could find the ten good people.

10 is a lot to ask, Big Guy...

Would you accept 4?

Posted by: Lot at December 05, 2024 12:37 PM (vGiQ3)

196 I'm shocked to find out that Howard Stern still has a show. Pretty much everyone agreed he was washed up 15 years ago.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:37 PM (2ocoG)

197 >>Finally, UnitedHealthcare has an offshoot that deals with Veterans, discharged Veterans and retired Veterans.

UHC has the highest level of claims denial in the health care industry.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (jlcJz)

198 >>> 162 Were there unusual stock purchases just before the assassination?
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2024 12:32 PM (i0F8b)

10 130 https://x.com/ShadowofEzra
/status
/1864398068575039671

Shadow of Ezra
@ShadowofEzra
On February 21, 2024, UnitedHealth discovered a cybersecurity breach.

On the same day, Nancy Pelosi made her second purchase of call options in Palo Alto Networks, a cybersecurity company that was later chosen to investigate the breach.

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was k*lled by a masked gunman today in the middle of a federal investigation led by the U.S. Department of Justice.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:04 PM (KcwUg)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (KcwUg)

199 184 Where do you go to get your bullets engraved? I'd like mine to read, "For Peanut the Squirrel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM (L/fGl)

Mine are gonna read "Taylor Sent Me". That'll throw them off the scent.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (eb5mD)

200 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom - Proverbs 9:10

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (Aqu9a)

201 who wants to place a bet that Biden will pardon Pelosi of all crimes ?

--

Set the precedent, Biden. All presidents can now pardon everyone in their administrations for anything at all upon leaving office.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (qBdHI)

202 I work for United Healthcare. Also, my brother was murdered in 1989 by a mentally ill homeless man so I have unfortunately been through a similar situation and the legal aftermath. This killing is traumatic for Thompson's family, coworkers, and friends, and seeing people like Taylor Lorenz essentially rejoicing over it is disgusting.

Posted by: MammaB at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (oXZSV)

203 This entire romantic love affair the left has with simply killing people you don’t agree with is quite disturbing. Democrats just spent four years using the auspices of government to persecute people who don’t agree with them. They arguably used those same devices during COVID to kill people and deprive them of their civil rights. Where do they think that ends?

Of the activist base many see themselves as the hero of their own action opera - they are Harry Potter, or whatever the current gender fluid Jedi main character is, or similar.

So killing people is something they are uh, just going to have to do. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:38 PM (oZhjI)

204 I would guess around 40% of the country is perfectly fine with real violence in service of left-wing goals.

We saw that putting conservatives in prison or bankrupting them for merely disputing election results was okay the media, why not just start shooting people?

Posted by: Leupold at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (4pwAx)

205 I don't see it as celebration, it's survival in a lawless land . . .

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In a world where it's survival in a lawless land, one man leaves his mark.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

206 Well, just because I occasionally come here Sunday nights... I noticed some things.
I saw a picture of a virgin bullet. How does that happen?

Posted by: MkY at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (cPGH3)

207 The right would NEVER condone letting Americans suffer in such ways over politics. This is UNPRECIDENTED bullshit from the left.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 05, 2024 11:32 AM (9gDA7)

I'm starting to waver on this point in light of developments, TBH.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 11:42 AM (wzAuc)

What developments? The only accusation I would make, that could and would stick, is the Romney style indifference to the 47% who won't ever vote for him.

But indifference is not the same thing as what FEMA did there.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 11:45 AM

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Lefties are boastfully ignorant on two subjects above all others: guns and the Bible. Go to trivia night sometime and watch the room when a disapproved category happens to pop up.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (wzAuc)

208 Youth Hostel sounds as appetizing as Public Washroom.

Posted by: High Roller at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (D4XB9)

209 Beau Biden was killed by a mask-wearing gunman.

Posted by: True story at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (PiwSw)

210 63 It didn't end well for most of them.
Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:07 PM (jvJvP)

It wouldn't be a Saw movie if everyone had happy endings.

I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Not like Natural Born Killers.

In my movie the serial killers would be admiring each other from afar, right? They don't know who the other person actually is. They get a sense of the kind of person the other is by the style of the killing and their choice of victims.

Say, how would the Horde feel about giving me money to fund this?

I hate horror/slasher movies. Gross. Real life sucks enough. Go back to your idea about that old bag Lorenz needing a 'deep d**king'. I'd pay..25 cents to see your face after the first time you 'made a woman' of her. Deal?

Posted by: Nelly at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (bcr4y)

211 I also think the writings on the shell casings are a red herring. Smart, if so.,

Posted by: MkY at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (cPGH3)

212 Loretta Young started young. She was in some pre-code movies, starting around 1929. She was radiant and Clark Gable agreed.
Posted by: Happy Harry

According to IMDb, her first role was an uncredited one in The Primrose Ring (1917).

She was in Laugh Clown, Laugh with Lon Chaney in 1928.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (v6JzV)

213 Meanwhile back at the ranch …

Four disaster recovery centers have closed, while 5,200 households will soon lose their FEMA hotel vouchers.

With people still living in tents, FEMA begins exodus from Western North Carolina

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (RHGPo)

214 The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. -RR

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (D6PGr)

215 199 Mine are gonna read "Taylor Sent Me". That'll throw them off the scent.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell

Especially when the investigation starts with Taylor Swift.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (OPGS/)

216 Would you accept 4?
Posted by: Lot at December 05, 2024 12:37 PM (vGiQ3)

"There was one repressed do-gooder
And a few who still believed
Yes, I think there were five good men here yesterday
But they were asked to leave" - Kevin Gilbert, 1989

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (2ocoG)

217 I've been expecting revenge killings for people who were coerced into getting the jabs and then died or were injured.

Especially if the truth of how harmful the shots are ever come out - which will be society collapsing.

My first thought for this guy was if it was jab related.
Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:12 PM (jvJvP)

As "justifiable" targets for retribution go, this guy was pretty bottom-tier.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (Olsst)

218 Notice how the simpleton justifies her belief: Health Care executives MURDER!!! people themselves.

See, she's just fightin' the Nazis!
Posted by: Jay in PA

She fancies herself as a soldier fighting Nazis. She best be careful.

The Nazis did kill 291,000 of our soldiers.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (xYpKG)

219 Oops. I mis-pasted.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (wzAuc)

220 Why I am shocked, shocked I say, that commies are not 100% happy with the ACA mandated insurance coverages they have.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (UKUm3)

221 The photos were taken from an Upper West Side youth hostel where police believe he might have been staying at before the shooting.

Youth hostel, hmm, like Europeans do. Ukrainian accent? CIA credit card?

Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (pEcHx)

222 10 is a lot to ask, Big Guy...

Well he did ask a Lot.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 05, 2024 12:41 PM (pfmLp)

223 > I'm shocked to find out that Howard Stern still has a show. Pretty much everyone agreed he was washed up 15 years ago.

ESPECIALLY after he exposed himself as a Covid-paralyzed freedom-hating yenta. Months after other New Yorkers moved on, he was still hiding in his 0.0001% apartment.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 12:41 PM (Odg76)

224 219 Oops. I mis-pasted.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 12:40 PM (wzAuc)

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That's a paddln'.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:41 PM (GBKbO)

225 Howard Stern has not been relevant in 30 years, sort of like The Simpsons.

He's just a sad hermit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2024 12:41 PM (XV/Pl)

226 Sources told The Federalist that Ernst began calling Trump within the last two days threatening to get all the female senators to vote against Hegseth if the president-elect didn’t pull his nomination. When asked when exactly Ernst called Trump this week to deliver her anti-Hegseth ultimatum, a source in Trump world sighed and said, “It wasn’t just one time.”

“She’s constantly calling and nagging him,” the source said.

Ernst is not working alone in her efforts to tank Hegseth’s nomination, however. Another source added that the Republican senator dispatched Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., over the weekend to nag Trump to ditch Hegseth and replace him by nominating Ernst.

Graham gave credence to the slanderous allegations against Hegseth on Tuesday, telling CBS News he finds the allegations “very disturbing.”

https://tinyurl.com/3b2n9zfv

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (V6W16)

227 Why I am shocked, shocked I say, that commies are not 100% happy with the ACA mandated insurance coverages they have.
--
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. But you'll pay out of pocket...

Posted by: The subtext at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (fYdcT)

228 I will admit to knowing little about this particular exec but knowing a little of the health care industry I suspect he's as "guilty" of doing the same things everyone else in the industry is doing. And those things are exactly what leftwing bureaucratic drones tell them to do. And those drones in turn are implementing laws passed by leftwing politicians. Who are in their own turn voted in by the leftwing activists arguing this exec deserved to die.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (oZhjI)

229 Good morning!

Posted by: gp Cast Ballot, Republic Is Saved! at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (NLkgW)

230 Oh and its evil insurance companies that cause people not to get care? What, you mean the wonderful docs and nurses and hospitals don't provide care to those who cannot afford it? HINT: They do it all the time for the illegal aliens in the ERs.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (UKUm3)

231 I don't see it as celebration, it's survival in a lawless land . . .

In a world where it's survival in a lawless land, one man leaves his mark.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:39 PM (L/fGl)

My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos... ruined dreams... this wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior.

Posted by: The Narrator at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM (Aqu9a)

232 The Left made a Hero out of Che Guevara.

Marvin Heemeyer killed only himself.

RIP Killdozer.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (vGiQ3)

233 I'll never understand how insanely wealthy Howard Stern is.

Do you know a single person that listens to Howard Stern?

He was "sort of" big for like 1-2 years in the 90s, but then everyone moved on.

Posted by: Leupold at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (4pwAx)

234 Meanwhile back at the ranch …

Four disaster recovery centers have closed, while 5,200 households will soon lose their FEMA hotel vouchers.

With people still living in tents, FEMA begins exodus from Western North Carolina
Posted by: SMOD

And that's why there won't be a civil war. I fully expected those Appalachian hillbillies to kick ass or shoot some FEMA people instead of just whimpering. If ANYONE had just cause...

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (xYpKG)

235 Graham gave credence to the slanderous allegations against Hegseth on Tuesday, telling CBS News he finds the allegations “very disturbing.”

I will be glad when Lady Graham leaves politics.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (aD39U)

236 "The photos were taken from an Upper West Side youth hostel"

A YMCA???

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (vFG9F)

237 Howard Stern became besties with Jimmy Kimmel which explains a lot. The Reagan quote fits both of them to the T.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (D6PGr)

238 While people on the right agonize over the moral implications of targeted killings the left is figuring out which target is next. There's no agonizing over it either.

Plan accordingly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (Q4IgG)

239 Howard Stern has not been relevant in 30 years, sort of like The Simpsons.

30 years ago he was still relevant, and even a big name. The "Private Parts" movie came out in 1997. But he went downhill rapidly after that, not unlike the Simpsons.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (2ocoG)

240 The Primrose Ring

But stuff?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (pfmLp)

241 I liked Robin Quivers. Wonder what she's doing nowadays.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:43 PM (v6JzV)

242 We may never know the motive. And by 'may never know', of course, we mean 'are not allowed to admit'.

Posted by: The FBI at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (1ilEC)

243 Loretta Young started young. She was in some pre-code movies, starting around 1929. She was radiant and Clark Gable agreed.
Posted by: Happy Harry at December 05, 2024

***
She cultivated the image of being rather proper; on some film sets she set up a "curse jar," and every time somebody swore they had to contribute some cash. I guess she was so cute and lovable she got away with it. (The money going to charity, I hope.) But she'd had an out-of-wedlock child with Gable (?). Later she "adopted" the child and raised it, never admitting it was her own. (I may be off on some of the details.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (J2vNu)

244 Iirc, Lorenz grew up in Greenwich or Darien, CT and attended Swiss boarding school.

How did daddy make his millions, Taylor?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (Hkcdp)

245 Howard Stern should be greeted in public, every time with "Dana Plato."

Consummate bullying scumbag.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (rJ48h)

246 @147 thx, Bulg corrected me earlier. Killed her in self defense with her own gun

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (FxDm7)

247 Has anyone seen Howard Stern and Taylor Lorenz together?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (KcwUg)

248 I'm a lip reader and in the video the shooter clearly said "When you get to Hell, tell 'em Taylor sent you!"

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (zSyrn)

249 244 Iirc, Lorenz grew up in Greenwich or Darien, CT and attended Swiss boarding school.

How did daddy make his millions, Taylor?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2024 12:44 PM (Hkcdp)

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Killing counter-revolutionary kulaks for Stalin?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

250 Look, bitch, you just said 'and they wonder why we want these executives dead.' It's written, right there, under your own name.

I hate the lack of honesty and honor of today. These people should all be disembodied with a shrimp fork.

I didn't say that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (HsOwE)

251 184 Where do you go to get your bullets engraved? I'd like mine to read, "For Peanut the Squirrel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Definite right-wing extremist domestic terrorist vibes.

Posted by: NSA Bob at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (S+YRA)

252 I feel like we're being shown the way forward for America.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (xcxpd)

253 Ernst is not working alone in her efforts to tank Hegseth’s nomination, however. Another source added that the Republican senator dispatched Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., over the weekend to nag Trump to ditch Hegseth and replace him by nominating Ernst.

On Fox this morning they said Hegseth met with Ernst and she was no longer on the warpath against him.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (2ocoG)

254 Disembowled, phone, disembowled.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (HsOwE)

255 In my movie the serial killers would be admiring each other from afar, right? They don't know who the other person actually is. They get a sense of the kind of person the other is by the style of the killing and their choice of victims.

That reminds me of The Sandman (Neil Gaiman), the few chapters covering the serial killer convention, where everyone is only known by their nickname. They all happily discuss their admiration for each other and how pleased they are to finally meet, there are lectures on various topics, etc.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (lg881)

256 I think even if Hegseth gets bounced Ernst won't get the job, and it's pathetic that she wants him bounced so she gets the job.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (MQJVv)

257 Disembowled, phone, disembowled.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (HsOwE)

-----------------

Shoulda stuck with the original. It made a similar point while being amusing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (tT6L1)

258 United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was being investigated by the DoJ for insider trading and fraud. The killer sprinkling shell casings at the crime scene referencing an obscure book on the evil of insurance companies strikes me as suspicious. There are other details, too. His hoodie, backpack, and shoes, for example, are expensive, name brand, high-end hipster stuff--memorable stuff. What assassin--even an amateur--would choose to wear 'memorable'?

The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (DPeYO)

259 "Ernst is not working alone in her efforts to tank Hegseth’s nomination"

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Again, the Democrats would never, ever do this. In fact, they would arrange for some women's group to give the guy an award.

Primary this clown. This is embarrassing.

Posted by: Jay in PA at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (i7Q7S)

260 There's obviously more to come with this story, and a murder on a busy street is also obviously not the way in a civilized society to solve something like this (did the shooter consider the poor woman who was standing by the door when he opened fire and ran away and will probably have PTSD all her life?), but I don't the amount of sympathy for the victim on the Right is going to be quite as high as some people would expect. We already have seen that Big Corp are not our friends, and the insurance/hospital complex might be some of the most egregious purveyors of waste and graft out there, as is coming out with the news the UNH was under investigation for insider trading. Some of the critiques on healthcare from the Left aren't all that different than what RFK Jr has said. I dunno, all I'm saying is after the last four years, I'm not entirely ready to dismiss any argument against the current joke of healthcare we have in the US. That doesn't mean I want socialized medicine or executives executed in the street, but something needs to change. You can condemn the act while understanding the motivation.

Posted by: I Stand with No One at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (1tjz1)

261 How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (V6W16)

262 Shoulda stuck with the original. It made a similar point while being amusing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (tT6L1)

Maybe 'deboned'? That would hurt with a tiny fork.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (HsOwE)

263 Of course the Left celebrated the assassination. Just like they would have if Trump was killed . Instead they professed their disappointment that he wasn’t.

They are all clinically mentally ill.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (D6PGr)

264 This last July, UHC was protested at their HQ in Minnesota by the People's Action Institute Care Over Cost. This group is made up of people who have been denied claims and report to have suffered and/or have family members who have suffered or have died.

https://tinyurl.com/yc7nzf9h

Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (oiNtH)

265 Bulg corrected me earlier. Killed her in self-defense with her own gun
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Actually, I thought it was the guy, Jemmy I think he was called, who killed her.

And I do remember that Miss Pross went deaf because the shot was fired at such close range. At least that was how it was in the 1980s TV version.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (v6JzV)

266 Is this guy gonna get a pardon too?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (QSrLX)

267 128
Taylor Lorenz will soon be calling for social scoring, and jailing/termination based on that score.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 05, 2024 12:27 PM (+oR7L)

Lorenz is that young Asia girl screaming at the old Asian guy wearing the dunce cap in his struggle session. E lxcept she's old AF.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (y8+A5)

268 Where do you go to get your bullets engraved? I'd like mine to read, "For Peanut the Squirrel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

And Fred

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (xYpKG)

269 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.

That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (2ocoG)

270 I already posted my thoughts on the insider-trading crook in charge of UHC, itself about the worst legal insurer in the US. Dangit I posted it again. But anyway murder isn't the answer obviously, if I hadn't made that clear, only glowies advocate that shit in (semi)anon comments.

So. Accentuating The Positive -
Russ Roberts has ideas on taking our healthcare decisions away from the crooks: tinyurl.com/bddupje3
I also like this tweet: x.com/mtm14/status/1864684647528997122
Basically that "insurance" could be rethought as mutual-aid societies, owned by policy holders. I guess it means that clients == stockholders.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (gKWVE)

271 Definite right-wing extremist domestic terrorist vibes.
Posted by: NSA Bob at December 05, 2024 12:45 PM (S+YRA)
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We're gonna sick 4 Chan on you people. Just wait.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (tT6L1)

272 261 How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (V6W16)

=======

"Lloyd Austin had decades of loyal service that proved that he was up to the task in a non-partisan manner. He is a moral exemplar and good man who would never let anything cloud his judgment in doing his duty."
-probably

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

273 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

Try "Christmas in Connecticut" with Barbara Stanwyck plus Sydney Greenstreet. A comedy from 1945.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (WuJwx)

274 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.
Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (DPeYO)

'Communism was just a red herring.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (HsOwE)

275 253 On Fox this morning they said Hegseth met with Ernst and she was no longer on the warpath against him.
Posted by: Ian S.

Was she leaving with a goofy smile plastered on her face?

Posted by: NR Pax at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (OPGS/)

276 fled on an e-bike

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Well, we know he isn't a conservative anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:24 PM (L/fGl)

I wonder if the cellphone they "found" was a burner phone, used solely to rent the e-bike, and discarded as soon as the e-bike was freed from its stall?

What if this killer is in fact a pro, a guy so good he play-acts as an amateur to throw investigators off the track?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (Olsst)

277 269 That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (2ocoG)

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But because of a misprint, all she gets as beneficiary is a Jelly of the Month Club subscription.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

278 I'll be hyping this throughout the season, traditional Christmas carols/hymns. Great background music while fiddling on the computer: https://www.fbcradio.org/

It's a fundamentalist college station, so there are very occasional short sermonettes. The music itself is very much in-season. give it a go.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (XeU6L)

279 Try "Christmas in Connecticut" with Barbara Stanwyck plus Sydney Greenstreet. A comedy from 1945.
Posted by: Beartooth

And Cuddles Sakall.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (v6JzV)

280 I nearly puked watching The Blair Witch Project in the theater.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (v6JzV

I would have puked.

But I'm going to finally watch them the next time I watch 'August' again.

Posted by: Stateless at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (jvJvP)

281 > The Left made a Hero out of Che Guevara.

One of the people Guevara executed at La Cabana was a 14 year old whose crime was trying to shield his father from execution by standing in between his father and the firing squad. There was a priest at La Cabana who wrote a very damning book about Guevarra. Among other things the priest said Guevarra relished killing and never commuted a sentence.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (Odg76)

282 Again, the Democrats would never, ever do this. In fact, they would arrange for some women's group to give the guy an award.

"If Mary Jo Kopechne had lived, the tireless work of Edward Kennedy would have brought her comfort" or whatever that obnoxiously stupid quote was.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (2ocoG)

283 There is a United Healthcare facility here in town. In know several people who work there. In sure some would like to give Taylor a piece of their mind , at the very least

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (FxDm7)

284 It's disgusting how a crazy woman can ruin a man with an accusation.

Don't stick your dick in crazy is really good advice.

Posted by: Leupold at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (4pwAx)

285 >>> 258 United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was being investigated by the DoJ for insider trading and fraud. The killer sprinkling shell casings at the crime scene referencing an obscure book on the evil of insurance companies strikes me as suspicious. There are other details, too. His hoodie, backpack, and shoes, for example, are expensive, name brand, high-end hipster stuff--memorable stuff. What assassin--even an amateur--would choose to wear 'memorable'?

The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.
Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (DPeYO)

One who has a change of clothes in the backpack?

I don't recognize *anything* the shooter wore as some high-end shit, and I wouldn't have known except for the reporting.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (KcwUg)

286 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.

That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (2ocoG)

Sounds more like a movie plot.

Posted by: Fred MacMurray at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (Aqu9a)

287 Private insurance is screwed up because the government has been massively interfering with the industry for years. They have been forcing them to cover every single aspect of your medical care and some non-medical care as well. This drives prices Sky High.

My dad was in the business his entire working life and he would always rant that insurance is supposed to cover Major Medical situations like getting cancer or being in a car wreck or having to go to the emergency room for a broken bone. It used to be affordable.

Once the government started ordering the companies to pay for things like regular checkups and chiropractic and every other thing, the prices went through the roof and the insurance companies are not their own masters. This of course is the deliberate big push to force everyone into the socialized medicine concentration camp from which there will be no escape from the government power over your physical life. So you can't blame the CEOs of the private companies for most of this mess.

Posted by: Beverly at December 05, 2024 12:50 PM (Epeb0)

288 Think NYPD will find the killer? I have my doubts

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (pXeye)

289 >>> 261 How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (V6W16)

Since when do you think we explain our actions to you people???

Posted by: GOPe at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (KcwUg)

290 275 253 On Fox this morning they said Hegseth met with Ernst and she was no longer on the warpath against him.
Posted by: Ian S.

Was she leaving with a goofy smile plastered on her face?
Posted by: NR Pax at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (OPGS/)

Walking side saddle.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (y8+A5)

291 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.
==
This may not be wrong. Not, an amateur, shooting in public, not in a hurry, not flustered. Doesn't try to get too close. Not a contact shot - no blood back spray. Very deliberate for someone who is an amateur. Its not impossible for it be an amateur but it seems like someone who is comfortable with the act, in public, in cold blood. It didn't seem that personal either, because he shot him in the back. Didnt try to get recognition, or even a fck you... Interesting.

Posted by: I can see it and that's why at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (fYdcT)

292 Last thing we need is another Iowa Karen.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (QTCRF)

293 It's a fundamentalist college station, so there are very occasional short sermonettes. The music itself is very much in-season. give it a go.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (XeU6L)

Thanks Mike. I'll try it out when I get home.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (HsOwE)

294 I had United for a while. Not long. They denied every claim at first, until I made a stink and offered to get them in touch with my lawyer (which I didn't have, but they didn't know that). The time and trouble it took to have them pay was not worth the slightly lower premiums. Now I have BCBS, and while they generally take several months to approve various procedures, usually well past the time I have had the procedure, they do, in fact, pay the claims. People forget that insurance companies are in the business of making money, not handing it out, and they will do just about anything to pay the dividend to their shareholders before indulging every whim of their "customers."

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (byWhc)

295
Maybe 'deboned'? That would hurt with a tiny fork.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (HsOwE)
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Well, someone was just released from jail who might be able to give pointers on how that might be done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (tT6L1)

296 I dunno. There is probably a justifiable amount of loathing for the health care industry, both hospitals and insurers. In the end, the average person gets caught in the middle of their cobra dance. The hospitals overcharge for services, and dump the costs of the uninsured and non-citizens on their patients. After COVID a lot of the nurses unions used that event as a means to get raises and put hospitals further in the red. Because they’re totes on your side. The insurance companies then deny and delay as a means of maximizing their profits. Don’t forget that companies like Aetna also own CVS so they get a taste at every juncture. The regulators have been in bed with both, and are simultaneously being pushed by the free shit crowd into socialized medicine. That said, murder doesn’t seem to be the solution. You know, if we’re going to take the moral high ground and fix things. But that’s just me.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (Ingf8)

297
>>>On Fox this morning they said Hegseth met with Ernst and she was no longer on the warpath against him.
Posted by: Ian S.

Did they boink?
Maybe that's all she wanted.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (tQOnE)

298 Oh and its evil insurance companies that cause people not to get care? What, you mean the wonderful docs and nurses and hospitals don't provide care to those who cannot afford it? HINT: They do it all the time for the illegal aliens in the ERs.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2024 12:42 PM

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Also, by federal law, ERs can't deny emergency treatment to anyone.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (wzAuc)

299 They got Jake from State Farm??

You bastards!!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (dGCAG)

300 > How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?
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Apparently Trump does not believe in "pay-offs."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (Q4IgG)

301 First, murdering people is never an option but the state of Healthcare in this country is horrendous. If anything hopefully this brings up discussions on how to fix things.

Some of the major issues facing "healthcare" in this country:

1. We pay for a LOT of medical research which the rest of the world, basically, steals.
2. A significant fraction of our healthcare system cares for people who pay nothing and treat emergency rooms as regular doctor visits.
3. Government payment systems (medicare, etc.) pay a percentage of the commercial rate which leads to inflating the commercial rate.
4. Too much government intrusion, generally, means added layers of administration.

If you want to fix US healthcare, start with #2.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (ExV1e)

302 185 I am glad you weren’t there at the time. I mean, NYC is scary anyway now. I used to love going to the city- just be safe, please. Thank you.
Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 12:35 PM

I am only in NYC 3 days a week. And when I am outside the building my head is on a swivel. Problem with this time of year is there are sooooooo many tourist!!!! Annoying as hell !!!! LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (4q/mG)

303 It's disgusting how a crazy woman can ruin a man with an accusation.
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Christine Blasey Ford at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (XeU6L)

304 I would guess around 40% of the country is perfectly fine with real violence in service of left-wing goals.

Isn't this the case with most revolutions? 20% support one side, 20% the other, and the vast majority in the middle just hunker down and try to survive without getting involved.

Posted by: Military Moron at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (S+YRA)

305 Taylor is a provocative and quite beautiful woman that I would like to get to know better.

Posted by: Joni Ernst's Sour Puss at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (/U5Yz)

306 Joni Ernst left the meeting post-coital and glowing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pledge in a Beanie at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (xPJvm)

307 274 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.
Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (DPeYO)

'Communism was just a red herring.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2024 12:49 PM (HsOwE)

That's a Clue....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (xcxpd)

308 United Health Care is a scam, not an insurance company. They make TriCare look like the best healthcare on earth.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (Ingf8)

309 "What assassin--even an amateur--would choose to wear 'memorable'?"

Any decent one. You'd want that to be included in your description, so you don't earn a second look after you change.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 05, 2024 12:53 PM (zSyrn)

310 I can't believe this happened. Suppressors are illegal in NYC and I am pretty sure this was a gun free zone.
Don't you know that laws prevent crimes!!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2024 12:31 PM (Oq/TM)

There's concern the shooter may have recently visit Indiana.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (ExV1e)

311 This may not be wrong. Not, an amateur, shooting in public, not in a hurry, not flustered. Doesn't try to get too close. Not a contact shot - no blood back spray. Very deliberate for someone who is an amateur. Its not impossible for it be an amateur but it seems like someone who is comfortable with the act, in public, in cold blood. It didn't seem that personal either, because he shot him in the back. Didnt try to get recognition, or even a fck you... Interesting.
Posted by: I can see it and that's why at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (fYdcT)

See, I think amateur b/c he did shoot him in the back. That way, he wouldn't lose his nerve...or accidentally warn the guy b/c he couldn't shoot without being in his proper stance.

And he didn't double tap AND left the guy alive. Not a pro move at all.

Definitely an amateur who planned this out a lot...almost like the Trump shooter in Butler...who was also no pro...

A pro would have just set up a sniper's nest and got out...easy to do in NYC...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (exHjb)

312 updating sig

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (xcxpd)

313 Also, by federal law, ERs can't deny emergency treatment to anyone.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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For anything. Got the sniffles? ER

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (XeU6L)

314 Think NYPD will find the killer? I have my doubts
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 05, 2024

***
We need Burt Reynolds as Hawk on the case!

Failing that, Sipowicz and Simone!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (J2vNu)

315 Did they boink?
Maybe that's all she wanted.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2024 12:52 PM (tQOnE)
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Hegseth probably oozes toxic masculinity and Joni succumbed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (tT6L1)

316 289 >>> 261 How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 05, 2024 12:47 PM (V6W16)

Since when do you think we explain our actions to you people???
Posted by: GOPe at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (KcwUg)

Got a response from Murkowski about her obstructionist bullshit. She lectured me on "advise and consent" instead of responding to why she voted yes on the freaks and is going to vote no on the adults. She remains a self-serving bitch.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (byWhc)

317 288 Think NYPD will find the killer? I have my doubts
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 05, 2024 12:51 PM (pXeye)

If they wanna find him, they will. Cameras are everywhere; you can’t easily disappear anymore. His movements can be traced

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (ZtAny)

318 Elon Musk posts:

If you exclude security guards & maintenance personnel, the number of government workers who show up in person and do 40 hours of work a week is closer to 1%!

http://tiny.cc/h2dzzz

Move them all to Minot and make them sit in one of those school portable trailers 50 hours a week. If you leave one minute early or arrive one minute late, you're out.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (Odg76)

319 There's concern the shooter may have recently visit Indiana.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

He crossed state lines!!!!!!

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (v6JzV)

320 Please ignore my 47 percent heritage rating. They don't know what they're doing and are controlled by Donald Trump.

Posted by: Joni Ernst's Sour Puss at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (/U5Yz)

321 >>How can these GOP senators explain voting for Lloyd Austin but not Hegseth?

We were afraid of being labeled a racist by the leftwing media if we voted no.

Posted by: GOP senators who voted for Austin at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (Y1sOo)

322 Graham gave credence to the slanderous allegations against Hegseth on Tuesday, telling CBS News he finds the allegations “very disturbing.”

Once and for all someone needs to drop the dime on Lady L's personal life as a "confirmed bachelor". It's not the gayness, it's the 2am parties with teenage boys while dressed as 1920's Parisian prostitutes'. Ok, I may have made that last part up but, the media and public won't care.

Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (oiNtH)

323 People forget that insurance companies are in the business of making money, not handing it out, and they will do just about anything to pay the dividend to their shareholders before indulging every whim of their "customers."

==

People also forget that there are crooks and abusers in industries that are so very very overfunded, and not as closely regulated as banks for example. The pittance that is being paid to shareholders does not excuse abusive practices reminiscent of the heyday of the prime mortgage fiasco.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (QTCRF)

324
There's concern the shooter may have recently visit Indiana.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Hoosier shooter? A question that answers itself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (XeU6L)

325 Don't stick your dick in crazy is really good advice.
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Indeed. The correlation between the type of woman who will treat her hoohah like a handshake and the type of woman who is prone to be a vindictive liar would bear this adage out as well. Picking up strange bitches sounds all fun and games, but after the STDs, stalking and lawsuits, not really worth it.

Posted by: Pete H. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (fYdcT)

326 If they wanna find him, they will. Cameras are everywhere; you can’t easily disappear anymore. His movements can be traced

Either he's a pro and has already left the country, or he's Antifa with rich Democrat-donor parents and they'll find him but claim they couldn't.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (2ocoG)

327 The vibe I'm getting is that of an experienced killer-for-hire who wants to leave the very strong impression he's a politically or personally motivated nutjob.
Posted by: troyriser

His gun jammed during the assassination, he cleared it, and kept on keeping on. Cool head.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:57 PM (L/fGl)

328 That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (2ocoG)

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But because of a misprint, all she gets as beneficiary is a Jelly of the Month Club subscription.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It's the thought that counts, Clark.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:57 PM (xYpKG)

329 Is United Healthcare publicly traded? If so, has anybody seen what the stock price has done since the shooting?

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:57 PM (v6JzV)

330 "The photos were taken from an Upper West Side youth hostel where police believe he might have been staying at before the shooting."

IT'S FUN TO STAY AT THE Y-M-C-A!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 05, 2024 12:57 PM (iFTx/)

331 Will NYPD find him? Detective First Danny Reagan will not only find him but shoot him. Guy shoots somebody every week and never gets desk duty. "Dad, I gotta problem". "Damn, Danny, not another one?".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2024 12:58 PM (gm9Sb)

332 As to motive, how much did Pelosi lose on her stock puts?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 12:58 PM (lTGtQ)

333 Got a response from Murkowski about her obstructionist bullshit. She lectured me on "advise and consent" instead of responding to why she voted yes on the freaks and is going to vote no on the adults. She remains a self-serving bitch.
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Honey, my cocain habit ain't gonna pay for itself.

Posted by: Lisa Murk - forced to tell the truth at December 05, 2024 12:58 PM (fYdcT)

334 Either he's a pro and has already left the country, or he's Antifa with rich Democrat-donor parents and they'll find him but claim they couldn't.
Posted by: Ian S.

If he was mafia, he'd be back in Detroit before the body was cold.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 12:58 PM (xYpKG)

335 329 Is United Healthcare publicly traded? If so, has anybody seen what the stock price has done since the shooting?
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:57 PM (v6JzV)

My daughter told me it went up yesterday (as did all the other health insurance companies)...but it could be Trump bounce...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2024 12:58 PM (exHjb)

336 I'm waiting for Peter Doocey to pull KJP strings by asking her "With the Hunter Biden pardon, the start date was Jan of 2014. Was that date chosen because that is when Joe Biden know that that's when Hunter started his crime spree?"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (fs1hN)

337 Either he's a pro and has already left the country, or he's Antifa with rich Democrat-donor parents and they'll find him but claim they couldn't.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (2ocoG)

That would never happen in AMERICA /s

Posted by: Bill Ayers - guilty as sin, free as a bird at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (TTAGa)

338 Maybe I’m the only one but when I had UHC through my employer they approved every single claim. And we had lots of them… they lost money on us

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (ZtAny)

339 Don't stick your dick in crazy is really good advice.

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So you're a sane-o-sexual.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (L/fGl)

340 Are we sure Taylor Lorenz wasn't the lone wolf gunpersyn?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (F0j7f)

341 Indeed. The correlation between the type of woman who will treat her hoohah like a handshake and the type of woman who is prone to be a vindictive liar would bear this adage out as well. Picking up strange bitches sounds all fun and games, but after the STDs, stalking and lawsuits, not really worth it.
Posted by: Pete H

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Exactly. If you're a guy that has anything of value, that one night stand becomes awfully expensive.

Posted by: Leupold at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (4pwAx)

342 316 Got a response from Murkowski about her obstructionist bullshit. She lectured me on "advise and consent" instead of responding to why she voted yes on the freaks and is going to vote no on the adults. She remains a self-serving bitch.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2024 12:54 PM (byWhc)

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She voted yes on a SCOTUS nominee who said she couldn't tell what a woman was without a biology degree.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (GBKbO)

343 CSI would have ID'd this guy during the first commercial.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (XeU6L)

344 You'd think the vaxx-crazy left would love pharmaceutical and insurance companies, but I guess it's situational.

Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (L281Q)

345 Can we get the same of one of these "thousands" of Americans "murdered" every year by greedy insurance executives? Just one name. I'll wait.

The problem with the American insurance system isn't that it denies too much necessary coverage. It's that it approves too much stupid and idiotic and unnecessary coverage.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (iFTx/)

346 343 CSI would have ID'd this guy during the first commercial.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (XeU6L)

Well, first we have to melt all his flesh off....

Posted by: Bones at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (QAkQ3)

347 > Some of the major issues facing "healthcare" in this country:

Good list, I would add:
5. Hospitals play a shell game to move costs from all the freeloaders to the ones who have the means or insurance to cover
6. Hospitals have a lot of deadwood DEI hires who do nothing but are politically untouchable. They're not just admin either. Many are nurses and other front line staff.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (Odg76)

348 Biden hates Pelosi at this point. She backstabbed him… no pardon for Nancy almost guaranteed… old guys with dementia are vindictive

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (ZtAny)

349 Hollaria Briden, Esq.
@HollyBriden

Is this really the shooter?
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That pic looks like a girl.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (fRIwc)

350 I'm waiting for Peter Doocey to pull KJP strings by asking her "With the Hunter Biden pardon, the start date was Jan of 2014. Was that date chosen because that is when Joe Biden know that that's when Hunter started his crime spree?"

They cancelled all KJP briefings for this week because Biden's in Africa giving them the money western North Carolina should have gotten.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (2ocoG)

351 UNH stock price has dropped about 23%. But they are still sitting at about $587 per share. Let that sink in BTW. They’re in it because they care.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (Ingf8)

352 "..or he's Antifa with rich Democrat-donor parents and they'll find him but claim they couldn't."

So he's already been shuffled into the witness protection program.

Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (TN0g+)

353 His gun jammed during the assassination, he cleared it, and kept on keeping on. Cool head.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

Or he was using sub-sonics and had to manually cycle.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (lTGtQ)

354 Lorenz committed a felony. She needs to go to court.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (fRIwc)

355 I still think the murder of this CEO was personal. I think the engraved bullets are for misdirection.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

356 326 If they wanna find him, they will. Cameras are everywhere; you can’t easily disappear anymore. His movements can be traced

Either he's a pro and has already left the country, or he's Antifa with rich Democrat-donor parents and they'll find him but claim they couldn't.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (2ocoG)

Cop on the radio this am said that so many crimes are solved because the perp never thinks about hiding his actions in the run up to a crime. They only think about during and after. So with all the available cameras you just keep rewinding until you find the perp in an unmasked situation.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (y8+A5)

357 Indeed. The correlation between the type of woman who will treat her hoohah like a handshake and the type of woman who is prone to be a vindictive liar would bear this adage out as well. Picking up strange bitches sounds all fun and games, but after the STDs, stalking and lawsuits, not really worth it.
Posted by: Pete H

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Exactly. If you're a guy that has anything of value, that one night stand becomes awfully expensive.
Posted by: Leupold

That's why you hire a pro. You pay her to leave.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (xYpKG)

358 3. Government payment systems (medicare, etc.) pay a percentage of the commercial rate which leads to inflating the commercial rate

Also, Medicare and Medicaid base on the prevailing rate, so if a doctor discounts for cash that is less that the Medicare / Medicaid rate or does something for free, guess what the prevailing rate is going forward?

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (pZEOD)

359 355 I still think the murder of this CEO was personal. I think the engraved bullets are for misdirection.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

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I think it was aliens.

Ancient aliens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

360 We know the suspect didn't pray next an abortion clinic because otherwise, we would already know their name, address, phone number and those of their close relatives.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (CwhoI)

361 Youth Hostel sounds as appetizing as Public Washroom.

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Agree! I may be a bumpkin, but I always associated "hostels" with Europe. Not here in 'Merica.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (qBdHI)

362 Kay Jeweller's engraved the casing.

"Every Kiss of Death Begins with Kay."

Posted by: Secret Squirrel, CiceroKaboom Kids at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (hirWM)

363 >>> 343 CSI would have ID'd this guy during the first commercial.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (XeU6L)

Enhance!!!

Posted by: CSI at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (KcwUg)

364 Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2024 01:00 PM (L281Q)

Getting jabbed was free my man.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (lUhzf)

365 That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.
Posted by: Ian S.

Just one more thing . . .

Posted by: Detective Columbo at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (L/fGl)

366 Will NYPD find him? Detective First Danny Reagan will not only find him but shoot him. Guy shoots somebody every week and never gets desk duty. "Dad, I gotta problem". "Damn, Danny, not another one?".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2024

***
I always had the impression Blue Bloods was set in the Boston area. I guess because of the Irish connection. Though there are plenty of Irish in NYC.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2024 01:02 PM (J2vNu)

367 Or he was using sub-sonics and had to manually cycle.

There's a fairly hot debate about this on X. It's too gun-nerdy for me to follow, but apparently he was missing a part that should go with the suppressor and that made the gun act weird.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2024 01:03 PM (2ocoG)

368 They make their money on investment of the premium dollar.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

That's generally true of all insurance companies. They maintain a certain cash "on hand" float to pay out claims, and the rest is invested. The reason they fight claims is to maintain that "float" of cash for as long as possible, before drawing more cash out of their investment yields.
I don't like the way insurance companies generally work, but it would only be a lot worse if the government ran "single payer". Because when the annual budget for Single payer runs out, you get put on a waiting list. Don't get sick in November or December in a Single Payer country, because likely the money ran out by then.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at December 05, 2024 01:03 PM (vcOmj)

369 Graham gave credence to the slanderous allegations against Hegseth on Tuesday, telling CBS News he finds the allegations “very disturbing.”

Once and for all someone needs to drop the dime on Lady L's personal life as a "confirmed bachelor". It's not the gayness, it's the 2am parties with teenage boys while dressed as 1920's Parisian prostitutes'. Ok, I may have made that last part up but, the media and public won't care.
Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM

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I'll bet he has a whole walk-in closet of pinstripe seersucker suits and bowties.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 05, 2024 01:03 PM (wzAuc)

370 They din't want to admit the NYPD was stumped by the actual message- REDRUM.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2024 01:03 PM (F0j7f)

371 Has the assassin's weapon been identified? A homemade suppressor on a tilting barrel auto would probably cause a stoppage by inertia alone. I have to use a spring mount with my can if I put it on a pistol.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (aD39U)

372 > Is United Healthcare publicly traded? If so, has anybody seen what the stock price has done since the shooting?

They're on the NY Stock Exchange. Ticker: UNH.
They're down 3.47% over the last five days

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (Odg76)

373 Move them all to Minot and make them sit in one of those school portable trailers 50 hours a week. If you leave one minute early or arrive one minute late, you're out.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 12:55 PM (Odg76)
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No reading material, phones, or internet.

Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (G0vdT)

374 Graham gave credence to the slanderous allegations against Hegseth on Tuesday, telling CBS News he finds the allegations “very disturbing.”

Lindsey Graham molested me 10 years ago. I remember vividly. What day? Uh...I don't remember.

But the important thing here is the seriousness of the charge! I mean the disturbing allegations against Sen Graham

Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (oZhjI)

375

Or he was using sub-sonics and had to manually cycle.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (lTGtQ)

Homemade suppressor causing problems with recoil power. Not clearing the shell. Not a pro move. Pretty clear they guy was not surprised by the hangups though.

Rate him as experienced shooter, not a greenhorn.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (y8+A5)

376 I'm waiting for Peter Doocey to pull KJP strings by asking her "With the Hunter Biden pardon, the start date was Jan of 2014. Was that date chosen because that is when Joe Biden know that that's when Hunter started his crime spree?"
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (fs1hN)

Yes, hey KJP, toilet brush barbie, seems like that was when he got on the board for Burisma ? Do you think this is a coincidinky ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (NtVYv)

377 I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Not like Natural Born Killers.

In my movie the serial killers would be admiring each other from afar, right? They don't know who the other person actually is. They get a sense of the kind of person the other is by the style of the killing and their choice of victims.

Say, how would the Horde feel about giving me money to fund this?
Posted by: Robert at December 05, 2024 12:16 PM (1Yy3c)

Sounds like Bonnie and Clyde. its had at least 1 movie.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (n7h9X)

378 I think even if Hegseth gets bounced Ernst won't get the job, and it's pathetic that she wants him bounced so she gets the job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (MQJVv)

Perhaps it's time to consider bringing Senators who were former military to active duty as gate guards in Syria - at least until all of the confirmations are complete.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (VNX3d)

379 351 UNH stock price has dropped about 23%. But they are still sitting at about $587 per share. Let that sink in BTW. They’re in it because they care.
Posted by: Marcus T
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United a liberal company, it's in cahoots with AARP and for many it is the insurer of last resort. Don't know what their pay off record is.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (fRIwc)

380 Did the victim have evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (i0F8b)

381 The masked ass*ssin is still on the run as details of his whereabouts remain unknown.
.......

He's in Puerto Vallarta already spending sweet cash on the Malecon. And gay bars.

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (v0R5T)

382 Wife of the deceased's statement started with "we are shattered.."

Whut?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (F0j7f)

383 Well if we outlawed insurance and had people pay for their own healthcare this would not be an issue.
Prices would drop like a rock overnight.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (S5hhx)

384 Probably from the Arabella funded, Fed led, Antifa. And it looks like the same guy to me.

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (2NXcZ)

385 Maybe someone, like the reporter, doesn't know the difference between bullets and casings.

Posted by: javems at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (8I4hW)

386 351 UNH stock price has dropped about 23%. But they are still sitting at about $587 per share. Let that sink in BTW. They’re in it because they care.
Posted by: Marcus T at

No, they are in it because they are a company and want to make money. On a much smaller scale, I do what I do because I care about people’s health and wellness. But I also want to make money. I am not going to do it free. In fact, I am hoping that at some point I don’t just break even and can sell at a profit.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)

387 > That's why you hire a pro. You pay her to leave.

Plenty of Johns have been blackmailed by pros. Just sayin'.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (Odg76)

388 I think even if Hegseth gets bounced Ernst won't get the job, and it's pathetic that she wants him bounced so she gets the job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 05, 2024 12:46 PM (MQJVv)

Perhaps it's time to consider bringing Senators who were former military to active duty as gate guards in Syria - at least until all of the confirmations are complete.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (VNX3d)

Also, they only get standard military equipment. No personal items. No items as US Senator.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (VNX3d)

389 378 I think even if Hegseth gets bounced Ernst won't get the job, and it's pathetic that she wants him bounced so she gets the job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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She needs to have a talk with Don.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (fRIwc)

390 Joined Bluesky today just to tell Taylor Lorenz what a disgusting excuse for a human being she is.

Posted by: MammaB at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (oXZSV)

391 Basically that "insurance" could be rethought as mutual-aid societies, owned by policy holders. I guess it means that clients == stockholders.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2024 12:48 PM (gKWVE)

I believe there some explicitly Christian insurance groups that work exactly that way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (Olsst)

392 "Well if we outlawed insurance and had people pay for their own healthcare this would not be an issue.
Prices would drop like a rock overnight."

College tuition would respond the same way if we did away with government aid.

Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (TN0g+)

393

Kash Patel nd the FBI should dismantle Antifa and BLM like the FBI of old did to that other Democrat group - the KKK

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (x0n13)

394 What is an e-bike, anyway. Like a motor scooter?
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (v6JzV)

bicycle frame and wheels, electric motor assist engine. Not as powerful as a dirt byke or motorcycle.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (n7h9X)

395 353 His gun jammed during the assassination, he cleared it, and kept on keeping on. Cool head.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,

Or he was using sub-sonics and had to manually cycle.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 01:01 PM (lTGtQ)

Yup, I rate as someone who practiced on a range with that weapon and ammo... but not a pro...

Saw this type quite a bit Navy Boarding Teams... good on the range but unpredictable once stress hit.

Posted by: Bones at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (QAkQ3)

396 Plenty of Johns have been blackmailed by pros. Just sayin'.
Posted by: bonhomme
==
You don't say?

Posted by: Eliot Spitzer at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (fYdcT)

397 The juxtaposition of those tweets is hilarious. As someone against suffering and death, she just wants certain people dead. lol

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (yEo1J)

398 382 Wife of the deceased's statement started with "we are shattered.."
_____
Look at me, I'm in tatters
I been shattered
Shattered
(Shadoobie, shattered)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (fs1hN)

399 DJT gets control of Thune he will have the Senate on his side.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (fRIwc)

400 396 Plenty of Johns have been blackmailed by pros. Just sayin'.
Posted by: bonhomme
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You don't say?
Posted by: Eliot Spitzer at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (fYdcT)

Huh.

Posted by: Probably most of Congress at December 05, 2024 01:08 PM (lg881)

401 Don't stick your dick in crazy is really good advice.

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So you're a sane-o-sexual.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 12:59 PM (L/fGl)

If you're a kid, and just starting out with trying to find "the right woman," you can be sure the crazies will reveal themselves quickly enough, and your parents and/or friends will let you know you need to toss this one back into the lake.

The older you get though, the number of single women who are crazy goes up exponentially. All the "somebody got tired of their shit, " and blah blah blah.

The worst part is though, she has decades of being able to perfect how to hide the crazy... until you've already stuck it in.

So a firm "duh" is the response to the statement. Don't stick it into crazy? Fine, but it wasn't crazy when I stuck it in, just got crazy after I took it back out again.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 01:08 PM (dGCAG)

402 394 What is an e-bike, anyway. Like a motor scooter?
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 12:25 PM (v6JzV)

bicycle frame and wheels, electric motor assist engine. Not as powerful as a dirt byke or motorcycle.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (n7h9X)

Good ones can go up to 35 MPH... and as they are considered bicycles, no license needed, and can follow Bicycle rules... ie... really good in heavy downtown traffic.

Posted by: Bones at December 05, 2024 01:08 PM (QAkQ3)

403 Kash Patel nd the FBI should dismantle Antifa and BLM like the FBI of old did to that other Democrat group - the KKK
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (x0n13)

Absolutely right.

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (2NXcZ)

404 371 Has the assassin's weapon been identified? A homemade suppressor on a tilting barrel auto would probably cause a stoppage by inertia alone. I have to use a spring mount with my can if I put it on a pistol.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 01:04 PM (aD39U)

Aren't cans legally approved to be used on only one firearm, by make/model/SerNo, specified in the application for the can?

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (aBgBM)

405 301
Assuming that so many people use the er for doctor visits maybe the government should just open up subsidized clinics for non emergency issues?

Would this bring down prices enough to make medical care more affordable?

Why does the government only pay a percentage of what the commercial rate is? My sister was an auditor for a hospital and the government always wanted the most detailed list of item costs. She said they were a pain to deal with but maybe if everyone demanded the same level of transparency costs would go down?

The insurance industry cares about thier stocks first customers after, it's kind of messed up that they can be publicly traded when they get thier money from the people that pay thier policies.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (FLJFl)

406 Wife of the deceased's statement started with "we are shattered.."
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Rats on the west side, bedbugs uptown...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (z0QHk)

407 Mittens gave a farewell speech. Is it a speech or delusional ramblings if no one Gives a Fuck?

Mitt Romney, who will also be remembered by his weird Twitter pseudonym, Pierre Delecto, gave a farewell address on the Senate Floor Wednesday before leaving Washington and the government, hopefully for good.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (Zxhv7)

408 Okay, Taylor, where do you stand on abortion?

Abortion is fine? I guess you didn't really mean it when you said you don't believe in death and suffering.

But, you be you and proclaim how it's righteous for you to call out hypocrisy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 05, 2024 12:18 PM (tT6L1)

Abortionists have suppressed info for decades that fetuses react in the womb, dodge and defend against abortions or have any agency until an angel sticks humanity in at birth. Or I guess these days even later than that.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (n7h9X)

409 Did the APB go out from the NYPD detective in charge to have the train stations, bus terminals, and ports watched?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (Aqu9a)

410 Rather sleep outside than in a hostel aka refugee camp. ⛺️

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (S5hhx)

411 I think it was aliens.

Ancient aliens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher
.......

Could it be Modern Aliens?

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

412 Comedian Sarah Silverman Gives Up on Political Campaigning, Admits People Don’t Care What Celebrities Think

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

413 The older you get though, the number of single women who are crazy goes up exponentially. All the "somebody got tired of their shit, " and blah blah blah.

The worst part is though, she has decades of being able to perfect how to hide the crazy... until you've already stuck it in.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 01:08 PM (dGCAG)

This times 1K.

Posted by: Bones at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (QAkQ3)

414 OK, tell me again, what gun did the shooter use?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (pfmLp)

415 Good ones can go up to 35 MPH... and as they are considered bicycles, no license needed, and can follow Bicycle rules... ie... really good in heavy downtown traffic.
Posted by: Bones
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Just don't keep it in your apartment...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (XeU6L)

416 The juxtaposition of those tweets is hilarious. As someone against suffering and death, she just wants certain people dead.
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To be clear, I am against suffering and death for those on my team. Otherwise, death, and hopefully suffering before death for those not on my team.

Posted by: Taylor the second coming Lorenz at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (fYdcT)

417 So a firm "duh" is the response to the statement. Don't stick it into crazy? Fine, but it wasn't crazy when I stuck it in, just got crazy after I took it back out again.
_____

Keep it in?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (fs1hN)

418 Village People May Perform Y.M.C.A at Trump Inauguration

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

419 Mittens gave a farewell speech. Is it a speech or delusional ramblings if no one Gives a Fuck?

Mitt Romney, who will also be remembered by his weird Twitter pseudonym, Pierre Delecto, gave a farewell address on the Senate Floor Wednesday before leaving Washington and the government, hopefully for good.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (Zxhv7)

Once a Mormon gets run out of Utah its pretty much end of the line. He'll get some sweetheart deal as long as GOPe has some influence.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:11 PM (n7h9X)

420 Don't get sick in November or December in a Single Payer country, because likely the money ran out by then.

You also don't want to be no name rando with an expensive illness/condition. Only politicians/celebrities get treated for that, son.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 01:11 PM (ExV1e)

421 As of last night, there was only a $10K reward asking for any info on the shooter. Vinny Politano of Court TV rightly asked why United Healthcare didn't pony up at least $100K as someone knows who this guy is. My thought is that perhaps as he was facing a DOJ probe for insider trading, maybe the higher ups figured that they had a problem solved for them and don't want to spend the money. Harsh but possible.

Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2024 01:12 PM (oiNtH)

422 Aren't cans legally approved to be used on only one firearm, by make/model/SerNo, specified in the application for the can?
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2024 01:09 PM (aBgBM)

No. I have a .45 can that I use on everything from .22 to .45, and even on 300AAC with a solid mount.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2024 01:12 PM (aD39U)

423 This is the Universal Healthcare crowd that wants free reign money for Medicaid for the undocumented; endless $ for abortion and women's healthcare; endless $ for the LGBTQAI+++ community for a variety of medications and treatments, not counting the "let's experiment on fetuses, infants and children" crowds that want perfect skin, to live until 150 and to have replacement organs at hand for they and theirs.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow at December 05, 2024 01:13 PM (NFX2v)

424 > That's why the wife is the obvious suspect. I mean, besides that she took out an insurance policy on him like a week before.

You guys are ignoring just how much CEOs like him earn in their lifetimes, and how many insurance instruments cover them. Thompson had $43 million in UHC stock and $21 million in options. For someone like that, a $10 million life insurance policy is boring and standard. Most likely he had a Key Person policy, a Director & officer policy, at least a couple other life insurance policies, etc.

This isn't Hollywood where there are no coincidences.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2024 01:13 PM (Odg76)

425 People's Hippo Voice, true about medical bills being the cause of BK. I worked in the law biz years ago, and in every BK we had clients list their med bills, bc they were not secured. So they are counting every mention of a bill, rather than the cause.

Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2024 01:13 PM (RRCAT)

426 The older you get though, the number of single women who are crazy goes up exponentially. All the "somebody got tired of their shit, " and blah blah blah.

The worst part is though, she has decades of being able to perfect how to hide the crazy... until you've already stuck it in.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 01:08 PM (dGCAG)

This times 1K.
Posted by: Bones at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (QAkQ3)

Look them up on the internet. There is an industry of women revealing just about anything - including them doing paternity fraud multiple times discussed openly on there and it blowing up in their faces.

They may adjust later, but for now it is a way to check for red flags.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:13 PM (n7h9X)

427 >>>The older you get though, the number of single women who are crazy goes up exponentially. All the "somebody got tired of their shit, " and blah blah blah.

The worst part is though, she has decades of being able to perfect how to hide the crazy... until you've already stuck it in.

So a firm "duh" is the response to the statement. Don't stick it into crazy? Fine, but it wasn't crazy when I stuck it in, just got crazy after I took it back out again.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Surprise!!

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:14 PM (fRIwc)

428 Nood. France - don't get excited.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2024 01:14 PM (ExV1e)

429 Just saw a headline that Amber Heard is pregnant with her second child.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 01:15 PM (v6JzV)

430 Hoosier shooter? A question that answers itself.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2024 12:56 PM (XeU6L)

This Hoosier has an alibi. Besides, I would've used a revolver. No shell casings to worry about--unless, of course, I wanted people to find the shell casings and read the words I meticulously scored on the shell casings so the authorities would immediately reference an obscure book on the evils of the insurance industry.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2024 01:15 PM (DPeYO)

431 Vinny Politano of Court TV rightly asked why United Healthcare didn't pony up at least $100K as someone knows who this guy is. My thought is that perhaps as he was facing a DOJ probe for insider trading, maybe the higher ups figured that they had a problem solved for them and don't want to spend the money. Harsh but possible.
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Interesting times.

Posted by: Ancient Chinese Proverbs Suck at December 05, 2024 01:15 PM (fYdcT)

432 So a firm "duh" is the response to the statement. Don't stick it into crazy? Fine, but it wasn't crazy when I stuck it in, just got crazy after I took it back out again.
_____

Keep it in?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2024 01:10 PM (fs1hN)

I kept it in as long as I could, but even I have limits.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2024 01:15 PM (dGCAG)

433 >>>Once a Mormon gets run out of Utah its pretty much end of the line. He'll get some sweetheart deal as long as GOPe has some influence.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Tough titty when you get no grace from your own.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:16 PM (fRIwc)

434
I'd like to see a horror movie about two serial killers in love and they show their feelings for each other by committing elaborate and gruesome murders. Like as the story progresses each murder is crazier and more disgusting than the last.

Posted by: Robert

Isn't that In Cold Blood?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2024 12:34 PM (lTGtQ)

Closer to Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2024 01:16 PM (y9nCu)

435 419 Once a Mormon gets run out of Utah.. Mitt Romney, new manager of the Mustang Ranch. This time it'll make money.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 05, 2024 01:17 PM (gm9Sb)

436 Too young for Chepe Martin, but I' sure he knows

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at December 05, 2024 01:18 PM (2NXcZ)

437 >>>431 Vinny Politano of Court TV rightly asked why United Healthcare didn't pony up at least $100K as someone knows who this guy is. My thought is that perhaps as he was facing a DOJ probe for insider trading, maybe the higher ups figured that they had a problem solved for them and don't want to spend the money. Harsh but possible.
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If they don't clamp this one quick it will be open season. And a rush to purchase armored cars in NYC.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:18 PM (fRIwc)

438
NYC Taxi Co buys fleet of Tesla trucks.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:19 PM (fRIwc)

439 And the fact that I am paying people to then itemize my expenses and determine what they will cover...ultimately out of the money I pay them...is just idiocy.
Posted by: 18-1

Yeah. If I could afford to pay for the insurance I have (yay advanced premium tax credit?), I woudn't have it.

I'd save up that $400 per month and add it to the $180 I already save up for medical stuff every month, and continue to pay for everything out of pocket. But without the additional paperwork for the $17 discount I get on chiropractic adjustments.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 05, 2024 01:19 PM (hB7mE)

440 "Well if we outlawed insurance and had people pay for their own healthcare this would not be an issue.
Prices would drop like a rock overnight."

College tuition would respond the same way if we did away with government aid.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2024 01:06 PM (TN0g+)

Tuition should be 0 if the school endowment exceeds some reasonable size (N years of operating expenses plus offsets for construction in the works). Any excess should be taxed at a reasonable rate after these tuition costs are factored in.

Endowments should be funding education, not be a slush fund for liberal (or conservative) causes.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:20 PM (n7h9X)

441 Apparently there's a big problem with United either denying claims or refusing to reimburse hospitals at the agreed upon rate.

Hospitals in my area announced a couple of weeks ago that they'd no longer accept patients covered by United.

I've never heard of that happening before.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 05, 2024 01:21 PM (paSBy)

442 >>Mittens gave a farewell speech.

Someone needs to tweet at him:

"The Senate floor is not an airport, Mitt..."

Posted by: one hour sober at December 05, 2024 01:22 PM (Y1sOo)

443 Tough titty when you get no grace from your own.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 01:16 PM (fRIwc)

He got grace when they named him a Senator. I wouldn't have voted in anyone from Masshole government if I were in Utah. He burned those bridges himself.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:22 PM (n7h9X)

444 405 301
Assuming that so many people use the er for doctor visits maybe the government should just open up subsidized clinics for non emergency issues?

Would this bring down prices enough to make medical care more affordable? Posted by: Whirligiginator
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Hell no! County taxes to go up 23+% plus, plus county RE taxes went up 5% for 2024!

Clinics galore locally plus: >ChristianaCare to Open 2 Micro-Hospitals in Delaware County (Pennsylvania)

A crowded collar county (outside of Philly) with an abundance of elderly, now children & undocumented though they won't admit to the latter. Many of the elderly residents are now being shafted by high prices and their locations. However, those on Medicaid v. Medicare have their family members on the payroll as they help care for them.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow at December 05, 2024 01:24 PM (NFX2v)

445 COVID Select Subcommittee Finds “Science Never Justified Prolonged School Closures”

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I guess the science transitioned.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 05, 2024 01:24 PM (L/fGl)

446 No, they are in it because they are a company and want to make money. On a much smaller scale, I do what I do because I care about people’s health and wellness. But I also want to make money. I am not going to do it free. In fact, I am hoping that at some point I don’t just break even and can sell at a profit.
Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2024 01:05 PM (pZEOD)

There is nothing wrong with making money. However fraud, theft and deceptive practives is not part of it.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 01:24 PM (QTCRF)

447 Even worse is she posted the info on the CEO of BCBS Association, which is not directly affiliated with Anthem BCBS of CT, NY or MO and has no impact on individual carrier policies within each state. Each BCBS state plan has their own CEO.

Posted by: Fish at December 05, 2024 01:25 PM (TPSUs)

448 based on reports there is something very wrong about UH

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 01:26 PM (QTCRF)

449 The juxtaposition of those tweets is hilarious. As someone against suffering and death, she just wants certain people dead. lol
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2024 01:07 PM (yEo1J)

My experience even in the 80s was that you couldn't talk to a liberal about policy for more than a few minutes before killing the opposition came up. Just keep asking them "what if people don't do X" and they double down and down until the mass graves are needed.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:27 PM (n7h9X)

450 Wolfus, another Barbara Stanwyck Christmas movie is
Remember the Night".
She's paired again with Fred McMurray, and it couldn't be more different than "Double Indemnity". Which is cinematically interesting.
A lovely rom com/drama.

Posted by: sal at December 05, 2024 01:27 PM (f+FmA)

451 Assuming that so many people use the er for doctor visits maybe the government should just open up subsidized clinics for non emergency issues?

Would this bring down prices enough to make medical care more affordable? Posted by: Whirligiginator
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My one emergency room visit the E room was packed on a night shift in a tony CA suburb. Most of them were just getting their regular care then since they could not be turned away or triaged, and would not be charged. I was there 2 nights and a day before admitted to hospital. No food given.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2024 01:31 PM (n7h9X)

452 People have to read their insurance plans.

Insurance claims are a problem if the user goes outside the provider network, i.e.,

How does out-of-network reimbursement work?
Insurance companies usually cover less of the cost of an out-of-network provider. For example, you might have to pay a $25 copay if you see an in-network provider but a $35 copay if you see an out-of-network provider. Insurance companies do not usually reimburse you based on the amount you actually paid your provider.
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Many times, anesthetists for surgical procedures are not within the users insurance plan. That results in much higher out-of-pocket costs. If it's not a true medical emergency, the user needs to contact his/her insurance company and see how to manage costs.

I've paid out of pocket thousands of dollars - most upfront - for a medication in lieu of going on a specific diet for sometime to check thyroid levels (following removal of thyroid), for radioactive iodine therapy and towards anesthetics for non-emergency surgery.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow at December 05, 2024 01:37 PM (NFX2v)

453 It's the Occupy Wall Street activist movement all bounced off the Obama, Bernie, Biden, ACORN, Pochahontas rewind merged into a Red Brigade coloniszation leashed by the Chris Wray FBI to for the ABC/CBS/NBC NWO media ejaculations.

Posted by: johnnybiface at December 05, 2024 02:09 PM (ufXiF)

454 Obamacare really works well.
/s

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at December 05, 2024 02:15 PM (iNp3L)

455 I don't believe the photos of the man without a mask are the killer. Mostly because the assassin had a white backpack and this guy has a black one slung over his shoulder. Also, I don't see any breast pockets on the killer's coat.

Posted by: RobertM at December 05, 2024 02:22 PM (vSVWJ)

456 So they are saying that the pistol did not jam! It's a Welrod, bolt action. He was manually cycling the bolt for each shot. This is to avoid the noise of a standard automatic cycling after a round is fired. This coupled with a good suppressor and subsonic rounds makes the gun very quiet.

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2024 02:22 PM (RHGPo)

457 Its antifa. He used a suppressor. These are expensive and its a sure thing its not legit. He also apparently was well versed with his weapon, so he was trained and not some dolt. I do not believe anything the media says about this case, just as the news about Trump's first assassination attempt constantly changes.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at December 05, 2024 02:23 PM (bXvrr)

458 As far as the woman looking at the camera is concerned, her mask is a different color from the killer's.

Posted by: RobertM at December 05, 2024 02:24 PM (vSVWJ)

459
Haul that Lorenz scrunt into the nearest precinct and book her for making terroristic threats.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2024 02:25 PM (xG4kz)

460 Has anyone asked for the whereabouts of Jake Gyllenhaal?

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 05, 2024 06:38 PM (nLFEI)

461 If we concede any professionalism to the killer, the most important part of an operation is the safe exfiltration and muddying of the water to delay pursuit... If we concede also an antifa angle, I would be concerned that the Person of interest may have been socially engaged to provide cover. If I had to guess, if she's not up to her neck in it, she is likely dead and may be found in a couple of days. By then, the shooter could be in Bora-Bora.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at December 05, 2024 07:25 PM (RYGbb)

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