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South Korea's President Declares Martial Law -- But the Parliament Cancels It on a 190-0 Vote

Update:

This is about corruption, by which I mean his and his wife's. IIRC, his wife is already in a lot of trouble and he is about to be.

No one can figure out what his play is here though. It is, thankfully, going to fail and then he's absooutely done. It is utterly bizarre.

Posted by: alexthechick

Ah. Of course. A lot like Biden.


The president claims the rival party has RUSSIAN, I mean North Korean, sympathies, so obviously all civil rights must be suspended and the military must conduct armed raids on the parliament.

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declares emergency martial law, accusing the opposition party of "sympathizing with North Korea and of anti-state activities." (CNN)

"Through this martial law, I will rebuild and protect the free Republic of Korea, which is falling into the depths of national ruin."

"I will eliminate anti-state forces as quickly as possible and normalize the country."

He asked people to believe him and tolerate "some inconveniences."

Obviously I'm no fan of North Korean sympathies, but I've watched the thoroughly-rotten American Deep State take anti-constitutional act after anti-constitutional act while claiming they're only doing so to stop RUSSIAN INFILTRATION AND SUBVERSION.

The 190-0 parliamentary vote suggests that this just might be a lawless act taken to preserve the only thing that matters, political power.


floridanow1
@floridanow1

I don't see how you restore democracy under Martial Law?

I thought you did that at the ballot box?

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
This last election taught us that "democracy" doesn't actually mean anything to the people who scream it all the time.

Open Source Intel
@Osint613

What's going on in South Korea?

South Korea is in chaos after President Yoon Suk Yeol declared emergency martial law, saying it;s necessary to stop "anti-state forces,: especially pro-North Korean leftist groups. The decree bans all political activities, controls the media, and prohibits strikes and protests. Stocks are in turmoil, and military forces are moving toward the National Assembly, with helicopters seen flying overhead.

More videos of the chaos here.

Again, my natural sympathies lie with anyone opposing communists and Marxists and North Korea, but I've never heard a whisper that the South Korean government was in danger of violent overthrow before now, and the 190-0 parliamentary vote to cancel the martial law declaration suggests this is pretextual.

Yoon's own conservative party denounced his imposition of martial law.

The president's surprising move harkened back to an era of authoritarian leaders that the country has not seen since the 1980s, and it was immediately denounced by the opposition and the leader of Yoon's own conservative party.

Under South Korea's constitution, the president can declare martial law during "wartime, war-like situations or other comparable national emergency states" that require the use of military force to maintain peace and order. It was questionable whether South Korea is currently in such a state.

When martial law is declared, "special measures" can be employed to restrict the freedom of press, freedom of assembly and other rights, as well as the power of courts.

The constitution also states that the president must oblige when the National Assembly demands the lifting of martial law with a majority vote.

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: Protests are breaking out in South Korea with citizens calling for the arrest of President Yoon Suk Yeol.

"Arrest Yoon Suk Yeol," protesters shouted in front of the National Assembly.

South Korean parliament voted to defy Yoon's declaration of martial law.

What comes next is uncertain.

"[The declaration] is not going to succeed," said South Korean political science professor Kang Won-taek.

"We will see people taking to the streets tomorrow. How can the military control them? By sh00ting them?" he said to the NYT.

Kang predicts that members of Yoon's party will join the opposition to impeach him.


CNN has the standard CNN take: It's Trump's fault or something.

Obviously.

Not a drop of rain nor a bird falls from the sky without the insane neoliberal corporate Regime rushing to claim it was the Devil Trump's evil scheming.

Posted by: Ace at 01:27 PM




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1 off

Posted by: RUReadingthis at December 03, 2024 01:27 PM (aQ25I)

2 insurrection-y

Posted by: brak at December 03, 2024 01:27 PM (NGHTx)

3 So then this is a coup, right?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (NXhou)

4 Kang Won-taek.

Won taek. Won taek only, Kang.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (v6JzV)

5 I was wondering if anyone had blamed Trump for this…and my question was answered by the last vid.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (WQbU6)

6 Ace!!

Will you be doing special posts for Trump's Inauguration? Your election night posts were fun.

Posted by: jmel at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (RWHIh)

7 There must be something about this place. I saw "Yoon", and my mind jumped to "Yoko Ono". Yikes!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (VNX3d)

8 The thing is, I think the president is right, they are basically commie-leaning and bad for the nation but this was not how to handle it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM (RsS92)

9 The craziest timeline.

Posted by: Max Power at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (Hucnr)

10 He's the Greta Thunberg of Popes...

Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral

Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (TGPs7)

11 Good Lord cnn.
You just don't get it do you?
I still can't decide if they are all just actors reading lines given to them, or if they are genuinely this stupid?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (W/lyH)

12 Also willowed, but never forget that they intentionally killed your loved ones:

Don't forget the cruise ships. We had data. It acted EXACTLY like norovirus.

And we ignored it and let those ships allow the customers to disembark and go all around the country.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (NXhou)

13 Willowed: "YMCA" does not seem like a gay anthem, whatever that might be like. It's joyful and it's triumphant (both attributes of Trump and his campaign, oddly enough). It's like Jose Feliciano's "Feliz Navidad," which, if you ignore the lyrics, is also joyful and triumphant.

Okay, go on ahead with what you were doing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (J2vNu)

14 >>>Will you be doing special posts for Trump's Inauguration? Your election night posts were fun.

thank you. of course we'll be covering it.

Posted by: ace at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

15 Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral

Upon what possible basis? LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (RsS92)

16 Given the South Korean birthrate, someone is going to be taking over the country. Does it much matter who?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (h/5hh)

17 Well it wasn't a coup coup. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (WXNFJ)

18 Won taek. Won taek only, Kang.

And an enthusiastic Wu Tang Clan to you too, my good man!

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (WQbU6)

19 This is about corruption, by which I mean his and his wife's. IIRC, his wife is already in a lot of trouble and he is about to be.

No one can figure out what his play is here though. It is, thankfully, going to fail and then he's absooutely done. It is utterly bizarre.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (AvvBm)

20 Good Lord cnn.
You just don't get it do you?
I still can't decide if they are all just actors reading lines given to them, or if they are genuinely this stupid?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (W/lyH)

Yes.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (VNX3d)

21 So then this is a coup, right?

Coup d'état

Posted by: brak at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (NGHTx)

22 Somebody here mentioned on another thread Peej O'Rourke's chapter from Holidays in Hell where he covers South Korean "elections".

Politicks is a full-body contact sport there.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (LxER7)

23 I was trying to figure out who the bad guys are in SK, maybe both sides I don't know

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (fwDg9)

24 I still can't decide if they are all just actors reading lines given to them, or if they are genuinely this stupid?
Posted by: Diogenes

Embrace the power of 'and'.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (WXNFJ)

25 South Korea's President Declares Martial Law -- But the Parliament Cancels It on a 190-0 Vote

That's not how this works!

Posted by: South Korea's President at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (HYrf+)

26 Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral
Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (TGPs7)


Heh!
What color was the smoke coming from ND when it was burning?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (W/lyH)

27 South Korea is a major economic force in the region, and indeed the world. A political shit-bomb going off there could destabilize some major economic activity. It's odd that the US stock market has not reacted negatively. It's actually up a little today (or at least NASDAQ is) after a big rally since Trump cunt-punched the slut in the election.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

28 I usually manage to understand basically what is going on when there is news.

Now we have two stories I can't make head nor tail of, South Korea and Syria.

I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.

Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (hmKaK)

29 After all, Our Democracy means that supporters of The Regime always stays in power.

Everyone is in agreement that we are replaying 2014 Ukrainian Maidan in the country of Georgia - the people who approved of the Ukrainian coup support the Georgian coup, and the the people who didn't approve of the Ukrainian coup oppose the Georgian coup.

All we need in Georgia is Victoria Nuland baking cookies for the protesters.

Good to see that we can all agree on something.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (uxCna)

30 I guess anything to divert attention from the alien invasion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (Q4IgG)

31 OSINTdefender @sentdefender 32m
The South Korean Military has stated they will continue to enforce Martial Law across the Country, until it is lifted by President Yoon Suk Yeol; despite the South Korean Parliament already having voted to end the Martial Law Declaration made by Yoon.

OSINTdefender 28m
The Parliament of South Korea has sent an Official Notice to both President Yoon Suk Yeol and Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, calling on them to Cancel the Martial Law Declaration made earlier today by President Yoon.

OSINTdefender 18m
According to Axios (via Al Arabiya), White House officials are saying that they received no prior notice before the South Korean President declared martial law.

The U.S. State Department and White House National Security Council have stated they are “Seriously Concerning” about the ongoing Situation in South Korea, with President Yoon Suk Yeol having not notified the United States before declaring Martial Law.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (hovnC)

32 >>> 10 He's the Greta Thunberg of Popes...

Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral
Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (TGPs7)

What's the matter, Frankie, are you afraid you might burst into flames?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (KcwUg)

33 "[The declaration] is not going to succeed," said South Korean political science professor Kang Won-taek.

"We will see people taking to the streets tomorrow. How can the military control them? By sh00ting them?" he said to the NYT



Yeah. That's how it usually works.

*See US Capital Police.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (xgUr8)

34 My Korean name is Yool Suk Mi.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (arcdH)

35 and biden's administration had no clue this was brewing...

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (QTCRF)

36 What color was the smoke coming from ND when it was burning?

I love how fiercely the French are insisting it was not arson and has nothing to do with all the other French churches being burnt by Muslims.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (RsS92)

37 OSINTdefender @sentdefender 4m
Arrest Teams have entered the Political Offices near the National Assembly in Seoul, with Warrants reportedly issued for Lee Jae-myung, the Leader of the Democratic Party of South Korea; Han Dong-hoon, the Leader of the People’s Power Party; and Woo Won-shik, the Leader of the National Assembly.

Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK 5m
Most of the Korean SOF operators I saw at the National Assembly building had no magazines in their pistols, were carrying blue training magazines and had simunition bolt carriers in their rifles.

Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK 4m
Empty pistol with no magazine in it.

Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK 2m
SCAR L with a blue man marker / blank training bolt carrier instead of a live bolt carrier.

The weapon can’t fire live rounds with that bolt carrier.

Oliver Alexander @OAlexanderDK 1m
Blue man marker training magazines in the plate carrier.

https://tinyurl.com/mr38fbpz
thread with videos readable without an X account

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

38 Kang Won-taek.

Won taek. Won taek only, Kang.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:29 PM


We wuz Kangs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (kgE5c)

39 "Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
This last election taught us that "democracy" doesn't actually mean anything to the people who scream it all the time."

The people screaming Democracy! and Diversity! are the first ones to flip out if someone else gets their way. These delusional children expect to live in a democracy AND get their way on every vote.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (pIfcn)

40 Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral
Posted by: Mister Ghost



That's sub-optimal optics.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (xgUr8)

41 I was trying to figure out who the bad guys are in SK, maybe both sides I don't know

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (fwDg9)


The politics in SK do not really map to anything like conservative and leftist in the West.

Remember, SK was a dicatorship until around 1987.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (AvvBm)

42 The CIA is really busy trying to set the world on fire before Trump comes in.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (noPDf)

43 Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral
Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (TGPs7)

Perhaps he's too ill to travel? But in that case, I would think the AB would find out ahead of time and not issue the invitation.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (LxER7)

44 No one can figure out what his play is here though. It is, thankfully, going to fail and then he's absooutely done. It is utterly bizarre.

Posted by: alexthechick

=======

Death by cop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

45
Someone once described Koreans as Asia's version of the Irish.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (dxSpM)

46 and biden's administration had no clue this was brewing...
Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (QTCRF)

Ow! Brain Freeze! Too Much Ice Cream!

Posted by: Prez Joe Bitme

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (VNX3d)

47 NEW: CNN says the chaos in South Korea reminds them of Donald Trump, suggests Trump's return to Washington might look like this.

"Donald Trump is about to be president. Somebody who has said he wants to use the military to go after his own enemies."

"The parallels to January 6th, just the image of a democracy facing this kind of crisis."

"I think this is something that people are scared about or that sort of Democrats are scared about when they think about Trump's return."

"He's encouraged the use of force to achieve political goals."


These people....

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (xCA6C)

48 Is this the "democracy" the United States tries so hard to promote in every part of the world?
---
The foundation of "democracy" is Judeo-Christianity.

Also, no country besides America ever incorporates the concept of separation. of. powers.

Antonin Scalia wrote a piece about how "democracy" has spread and even "Constitutional Republics"

Posted by: Axeman at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (krQz2)

49
...aaaaand hunter biden's stupid pardon is out of the fake news cycle

Posted by: Soothsayer Questions the Timing at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (HRL37)

50 27 It's odd that the US stock market has not reacted negatively. It's actually up a little today (or at least NASDAQ is) after a big rally since Trump cunt-punched the slut in the election.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2024 01:32 PM (iFTx/)


The stock market has been shrugging off major issues for quite a while now. Federal debt crisis finally looks like it might take us down? Chill out, dude. WW III threatens? Whatever.

I figure it's the last of the Biden borrowing/spending still working its way through the system. Not a coincidence that we haven't had a significant "clean out the pipes" recession since 2008.

Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:35 PM (hmKaK)

51 43 Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Pope Francis has rejected the invitation of the Archbishop of Paris to attend the reopening of the Notre Dame cathedral
Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 03, 2024 01:30 PM (TGPs7)

Perhaps he's too ill to travel? But in that case, I would think the AB would find out ahead of time and not issue the invitation.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:34 PM (LxER7)

========

He was being wheeled around in a wheelchair frequently even a couple of years ago.

I'm kind of surprised he's lasted this long.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

52 punched the slut in the election.

I like my 401k these days

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (WQbU6)

53 I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.

Wood Allen's Bananas:

U.S. Soldier #1: Any word on where we're headed for?
U.S. Soldier #2: I hear it's San Marcos.
U.S. Soldier #1: Are we fighting for or against the government?
U.S. Soldier #2: The C.I.A.'s not taking any chances this time. Some of us are for, and some us are going to be against it.
U.S. Soldier #1: Oh.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (uxCna)

54 I'd like to report a threadjacking.

Yes, I'll hold.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (hovnC)

55 >>> 12 Also willowed, but never forget that they intentionally killed your loved ones:

Don't forget the cruise ships. We had data. It acted EXACTLY like norovirus.

And we ignored it and let those ships allow the customers to disembark and go all around the country.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (NXhou)

SEEF: getting take-out food from places where the employees are a mix of near-elderly, teenage and/or illegal, falling all over each other ass over teakettle fighting over buttwipe in the grocery store, Mostly Peacefully Protesting...

NOT SEEF: rawdogging the air (!!!), visiting dying relatives in the hospital, voting in person...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (KcwUg)

56
Don't worry, Your Holiness. Lightning never strikes twice in the same place.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (dxSpM)

57 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (QTCRF)

58 "Donald Trump is about to be president. Somebody who has said he wants to use the military to go after his own enemies."


Every political prisoner in America right now...and sadly we have a lot of them...are there for opposing the Biden junta.

Every single one.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (oZhjI)

59 I blame Johnny Somali

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (Dnobf)

60 Is this the "democracy" the United States tries so hard to promote in every part of the world?

We get it, dude, you hate America.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (xCA6C)

61 Here's what I've been able to piece together based on the reports I've seen.

The S Korean President knew he was about to be impeached, so he declared martial law. The army came in and blockaded Parliament. The MPs breached the blockade and held a vote to lift martial law, all while the military tried to stop them. The army left. Legally, martial law is still in effect until the President honors the vote. The President is constitutionally obligated to honor the vote, but martial law is not officially lifted yet. The President is expected to be impeached in the near future.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (Odg76)

62 44 No one can figure out what his play is here though. It is, thankfully, going to fail and then he's absooutely done. It is utterly bizarre.

Posted by: alexthechick
---

Hopefully so. But it looks as if it's right out of the CIA playbook.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (WEqNk)

63 Because he lives and breathes, Trump is bringing down Democracy all over the world.

Core leftist belief.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (A1k5O)

64 Taylor Lorenz is calling us chuds. Is that worse than deplorables or garbage people?

Asking for myself.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (a3Q+t)

65 ========

He was being wheeled around in a wheelchair frequently even a couple of years ago.

I'm kind of surprised he's lasted this long.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

Yes, he's ancient and falling apart.

Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)

66 What color was the smoke coming from ND when it was burning?

I love how fiercely the French are insisting it was not arson and has nothing to do with all the other French churches being burnt by Muslims.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (RsS92)
___

Yea, and there were the videos of the Muslim-looking men wandering around the place right before the fire. The speed at which the Paris authorities denied those men had anything to do with the fire strongly suggested to me they had everything to do with the fire. We will never get the truth about what happened.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

67 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.

And yet the pope won't. Has anyone heard the reasoning why?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (xCA6C)

68
And I didn't even get a guffaw for this in the last thread...

Breaking:

biden just pardoned the president of South Korea
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:05 PM

Posted by: Soothsayer Questions the Timing at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (HRL37)

69 Wake me up when they come out with a cornhole channel.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 01:17 PM (UVu6u)

For awhile during the worst of the covid crap, several ESPN channels had very little to broadcast. At a restaurant one evening I was visually assaulted by the belly flop competition, watched a marble course competition, and was bored by a cornhole competition.

The marble course was interesting. Try to get the marble as far along the course as possible for points. I suppose here were prizes involved.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (4XwPj)

70 We will see people taking to the streets tomorrow. How can the military control them? By sh00ting them?

Actually, yes. Under martial law that is precisely how they would control them if telling them to disperse didn't work.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (ExV1e)

71 I'll take that bet!

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 3m
Amid the ongoing Coup in South Korea, Traders on Polymarket are currently predicting that there is a 37% Chance that the President of South Korea, Yoon Suk Yeol is ousted by 2025.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (hovnC)

72 54 I'd like to report a threadjacking.

Yes, I'll hold.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (hovnC)

========

*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

73 thank you. of course we'll be covering it.
Posted by: ace at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM


Does "we" include Chuy?

Asking for his many fans on the blog.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (a3Q+t)

74 I had a friend years ago who has since passed away. He was an MP in Korea at the end of the Korean war. He went back with a veteran group at the invitation by South Korea to see what has happened to develop the areas were the fighting occurred. As they were on a bus in Seoul they came upon a riot were students were battling police. Both sides saw the bus with "Welcome US Gis" on the side. A whistle was blown the rioters stepped back and bowed as the bus passed. My friend looked out the back and saw the riot start up again. An odd people

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (FxDm7)

75 Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?

Joe Biden.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (uxCna)

76 The second clause of the martial law declaration is amusing. Such excellent double speak here. False propaganda is gem.

2. All acts that deny or attempt to overthrow the liberal democratic system are prohibited, and fake news, public opinion manipulation, and false propaganda are prohibited.

I read this one to mean the beatings will continue until morale improves.

6. Innocent ordinary citizens, excluding anti-state forces and other subversive forces, will be subject to measures to minimize inconvenience in their daily lives.

The whole thing:
https://is.gd/53OQTT

Posted by: Don LeMon at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (vO42M)

77 I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.

Wood Allen's Bananas:

U.S. Soldier #1: Any word on where we're headed for?
U.S. Soldier #2: I hear it's San Marcos.
U.S. Soldier #1: Are we fighting for or against the government?
U.S. Soldier #2: The C.I.A.'s not taking any chances this time. Some of us are for, and some us are going to be against it.
U.S. Soldier #1: Oh.
Posted by: The ARC of History!



IOW, North vs South.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (xgUr8)

78 >>>The President is constitutionally obligated to honor the vote, but martial law is not officially lifted yet. The President is expected to be impeached in the near future.
Posted by: bonhomme
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This reads as if the military is not particularly interested in enforcing this edict.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (WEqNk)

79 Pope Francis is not in good health and I would guess that's why he not attending the reopening of Notre Dame.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 03, 2024 01:39 PM (2NHgQ)

80 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.

I would be there if I could. Incredible structure with amazing history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (RsS92)

81 U.S. Soldier #1: Any word on where we're headed for?
U.S. Soldier #2: I hear it's San Marcos.
U.S. Soldier #1: Are we fighting for or against the government?
U.S. Soldier #2: The C.I.A.'s not taking any chances this time. Some of us are for, and some us are going to be against it.
U.S. Soldier #1: Oh.


One thing that isn't often noted - Reagan picked generally good allies in most of his Cold War interventions. And if you compare his record to his predecessors it looks amazing honestly.

As an example, JFK allowed the assassination of Diem, who was a much better leader then everyone that followed him. And of course ironically JFK was assassinated not that long after.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (oZhjI)

82 I'm not well schooled in South Korean politics, but it strikes me that 190 to nothing is a fairly lopsided score and doesn't show a lot of support in your plan. That being said, usually when I see a lopsided vote in Congress, I think the few dissenters were probably on the right track.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (sX1BW)

83 The Parliament of South Korea has sent an Official Notice to both President Yoon Suk Yeol and Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, calling on them to Cancel the Martial Law Declaration made earlier today by President Yoon.
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This is of course exactly why the average citizen needs easy access to "weapons of war".

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (Dnobf)

84 That 190 to zero vote pretty much tells me all I need to know.

And....what in the actual fuck just happened in SK?

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (fV+MH)

85 Pope Francis is not in good health and I would guess that's why he not attending the reopening of Notre Dame.

Let's try not to imagine how much worse the next pope will be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (RsS92)

86 Upon what possible basis? LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:31 PM (RsS92)


It's a Catholic cathedral. He avoids those.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (ExV1e)

87 And yet the pope won't. Has anyone heard the reasoning why?

===


It all goes back to that Avignon business...

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (QTCRF)

88
What??

The President is going to France?

I do not like that idea.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (HRL37)

89 The speed at which the Paris authorities denied those men had anything to do with the fire strongly suggested to me they had everything to do with the fire.

It's like Muslim terrorist acts in the United States where the FBI immediately announces that it wasn't terrorism before there has been the slightest investigation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (uxCna)

90 To take the title of "World's Greatest Democracy" from Ukraine, they'll have to:

Institute a draft
Shut down and seize all opposition media
Outlaw the opposition political parties
Seize the assets of the oppositions parties
Arrest clergy who speak against you
Cancel elections indefinitely
Launder billions in international aid
Use actual neo-Nazis as your main troops
Hire a tranny as your spokesperson
Have your president play-act as a tough guy by wearing department store green t-shirts.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 03, 2024 01:40 PM (cFx13)

91 Pope Francis is not in good health and I would guess that's why he not attending the reopening of Notre Dame.

It's a sacrifice I'm prepared to make.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (xCA6C)

92
2. All acts that deny or attempt to overthrow the liberal democratic system are prohibited, and fake news, public opinion manipulation, and false propaganda are prohibited.


Hey, I've seen this one before. What did the Biden junta call it something like the Disinformation Board or something?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (oZhjI)

93 Good summary bonhomme. Tidbit: well-done analysis of video of military breaking into parliament shows the troops had training magazines, pistols with no magazines, and bolt-carriers for simunition (training, not real, ammo) in their rifles.

Wild A**sed Guess: military is following orders but taking steps to ensure nothing serious happens - like shooting inside parliament. Anecdotal evidence of military/police showing half-hearted response to crowd shoving/pushing (by South Korean standards!) also suggests state mil/police going through the motions, following orders, but minimally.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (1m82a)

94 Yes, he's ancient and falling apart.

Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)


Is it time for an Irish Pope? Has there ever been an Irish Pope? Just think of it! The sacramental wine turned into whisky.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (W/lyH)

95 I'd like to report a threadjacking.

Yes, I'll hold.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM (hovnC)


No such thing as a threadjacking on an Ace thread. Request for enforcement denied.

Posted by: Ace Legal Counsel and Liquor Store at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (/HDaX)

96 Notre Dame re-opens, appropriately, the feast of the Immaculate Conception Conception. For the non RCC here, that’s a Marian holyday.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (WQbU6)

97 Both sides saw the bus with "Welcome US Gis" on the side. A whistle was blown the rioters stepped back and bowed as the bus passed.


GI back! GI make boom boom.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (xgUr8)

98 It's like Muslim terrorist acts in the United States where the FBI immediately announces that it wasn't terrorism before there has been the slightest investigation.

In the UK they are still rounding up political prisoners for claiming that recent jihadi attack was a jihadi attack.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (oZhjI)

99 Pope Frankie and the commie bastards around him would probably cause Notre Dame to burst off into flame again

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (FxDm7)

100 I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.
Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM (hmKaK)


It's like the meme picture of Israel where Iron Dome is labelled as "US taxpayer funded" and the incoming Iranian missiles are also labelled "US taxpayer funded".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

101 Speaking of Notre Dame, here's a really neat crowd picture taken inside Notre Dame of all of the very fine people who have worked to restore it the last five years.

http://tiny.cc/73wyzz

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (Odg76)

102 Kang predicts that members of Yoon's party will join the opposition to impeach him.

————-

Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodo.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (u73oe)

103 Oh, well , after almost a thousand years, it needed a facelift anyway.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (QTCRF)

104 Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?

The best part of an African Pope? The left running around calling him a multi-racial white supremacist.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (oZhjI)

105 Now we have two stories I can't make head nor tail of, South Korea and Syria.

I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.
Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:33 PM


Wheels within wheels within wheels, man.

Iran and Russia want a corridor across Syria to the Med.

Saudi and others want to build a gas pipeline north and west to Europe (ala Nord). Gas is 10x cheaper to transport via pipeline than by sea (which is why the U.S. trashed Nord).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (a3Q+t)

106 And yet the pope won't. Has anyone heard the reasoning why?

===
It all goes back to that Avignon business...


My money's on the whole filioque thing.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (xCA6C)

107 >>> 411
==
Pickleball.TV is already a channel. It's among the "free" channels on Samsung Smart TVs. I do watch it occasionally. Mostly during the womens events. There are some really good reasons to watch those events.
Posted by: Doof at December 03, 2024 01:28 PM (jgdZo)

Do those reasons mostly show up in pairs?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (KcwUg)

108 The president claims the rival party has RUSSIAN, I mean North Korean, sympathies, so obviously all civil rights must be suspended and the military must conduct armed raids on the parliament.

---------------

Putin, you magnificent bastard, is there NOTHING you can't do?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (UVu6u)

109

President Yoon is trying to save face
While cops deploy their batons andMace
Tempers are getting hot
Putting Yoon on the spot
Stuck 'twixt a ROK and a hard place

Posted by: muldoon at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (991eG)

110 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.
Posted by: runner

I hope he doesn't forget to take communion!
-- Bill Clinton, non-Catholic

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (v6JzV)

111
I believe the President's life is in more jeopardy now than ever.

I don't like the idea of him flying across the Atlantic....and back.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (ATg0j)

112 Let's try not to imagine how much worse the next pope will be.

Worse than Francis is a very high bar.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM (2ocoG)

113
Anyone see LONDON HAS FALLEN?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (ATg0j)

114 Is this the "democracy" the United States tries so hard to promote in every part of the world?

We get it, dude, you hate America.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:37 PM (xCA6C)

No, we hate America's enemies in the federal government, particularly the intelligence community.

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (Dnobf)

115 Yes, he's ancient and falling apart.

Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)


Is it time for an Irish Pope? Has there ever been an Irish Pope? Just think of it! The sacramental wine turned into whisky.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 01:41 PM (W/lyH)

Ace as Pope. Sacramental Val-U-Rite?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (VNX3d)

116 It's like Muslim terrorist acts in the United States where the FBI immediately announces that it wasn't terrorism before there has been the slightest investigation.

Then they open the crime scene to the press the day after the event, and close the investigation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (RsS92)

117 South Korean Martial Law FULL RULES:

To safeguard liberal democracy and protect the safety of the people against anti-state forces threatening to overthrow the Republic of Korea, the following measures are declared


"Playbook known", Clowns! Try to mix it up a little, would ya?

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (Pe6a4)

118 Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?

The best part of an African Pope? The left running around calling him a multi-racial white supremacist.
Posted by: 18-1


Black African cardinals and bishops don't play.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (xgUr8)

119 I tapped out of the Syria story when I read that the group armed by the Pentagon was exchanging fire with the group armed by the CIA.

Originally there were some non-Islamist resistance fighters to Assad but Barky waited until they were dead so he could justify arming the jihadis instead.

Assad is horrible as well but the insanity of the US supporting the remnants of ISIS/AQ in Syria is disgusting.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (oZhjI)

120 190 to nothing? We're only mildly impressed.

Posted by: J-E-T-S, Jets Jets Jets at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (arcdH)

121 Yoon's own conservative party denounced
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Wait. Are they actually worth a shit? Because that would be something.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (3hycG)

122 I would be there if I could. Incredible structure with amazing history.

Same. The images of the interior are breathtaking. When I visited there, the walls were all dingy from centuries of worshippers and tourists rawdogging the air.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2024 01:44 PM (WQbU6)

123
African clergy don't do gay. Cardinal Sarah as Pope would be grand.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 01:45 PM (dxSpM)

124 73 Asking for his many fans on the blog.

many fans ensure the hamsters don't overheat.

Posted by: anachronda at December 03, 2024 01:45 PM (v3pYe)

125 Breaking, from the Norks!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/ytrw2v45

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:45 PM (hovnC)

126 It all goes back to that Avignon business

As crazy as that sounds... there might be something to that, 600 years later.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:45 PM (RsS92)

127 P.J. O'Rourke on the Koreans, from Holidays in Hell

"They don't like anyone who isn't Korean, and they don't like each other all that much, either. They're hardheaded, hard-drinking, tough little bastards, 'the Irish of Asia.'"

Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:45 PM (hmKaK)

128 Pickleball.TV is already a channel. It's among the "free" channels on Samsung Smart TVs. I do watch it occasionally. Mostly during the womens events. There are some really good reasons to watch those events.
Posted by: Doof at December 03, 2024 01:28 PM (jgdZo)

Do those reasons mostly show up in pairs?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


Do they wear beach volleyball shorts?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (xgUr8)

129
Maybe the fake "pope" is wise to something bad that is planned for Notre Dame...

His absence is making me suspicious.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (ATg0j)

130 He's pissed Parliament won't let him fire the prosecutors going after his wife for fraud. "Oh, look, commies!" I don't think that's gonna work. I'm also livid for all of our troops and their families stuck out in this mess. Especially the ones living on the economy. Did we even have a hint this shit was going down beforehand?

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (4Af9R)

131 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.
Posted by: runner

I bet Melania will be elated to be there.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (VNX3d)

132 Syria for Syrians !

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (QTCRF)

133 Made a suggestion to a friend this morning that I expect PDT to convert to Catholicism. Melania is and she's obviously a n influence on him.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (2NHgQ)

134 I'd like to report a threadjacking.

Yes, I'll hold.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:36 PM


Hello. Could you point out on the Thread exactly where Jack touched you?

Posted by: AoSHQ Emergency Response Squad at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (a3Q+t)

135 The best part of an African Pope? The left running around calling him a multi-racial white supremacist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (oZhjI)

A month or two ago we stopped for Mass in Staunton, VA. Beautiful church from the early 1850's. The pastor was from Nigeria (IIRC) and you could tell he was relishing the modern irony of the term "African missionary" in our fallen-away society.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (LxER7)

136
Pope Francis has decided "lead us not into temptation" doesn't belong in the Lord's Prayer, but that's not a doctrinal decision so he's not infallible on that, or something.

I have a lot of Catholic family and friends but know of no one who defends this douchebag. Maybe some tranny holy thing like in "The Convocation" would be an improvement.

Posted by: Auspex at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (j4U/Z)

137 107 Do those reasons mostly show up in pairs?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I have clients who play and they wear the same little tennis skirts tennis players do.

Posted by: Piper at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (p4NUW)

138 Trump to Kastro's Kid: If your country is so lame it can't pay our tariff you might as well become a state and let me run the place.

Kastro's Kid: looks around the dinner table for support and finds none.

TLDR; Trump calls Kastro Kid a punk bitch. Canadian Truck drivers pop boners.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (vO42M)

139 Rebels (HTS) reportedly entering Hama, which is next large town in their path (if "their path" leads towards Damascus). They approached/then withdrew there a few days ago. Rebels also in Latakia Governorate, coastal province where RUSSIA!!!!! has its main military bases.

US forces smoked some Iranian-backed mooks coming into Syria from Iraq.

Meanwhile Israel is showing some good 1950s spirit, and not f***ing around with the "ceasefire" - pre-empting or reacting to Hezb violations or impending possible violations. US and Fwance whining, but I'm guessing Bibi is following the approach he'd already decided on when knuckling under to the deal. Policing/mediating a ceasefire is near impossible in the best of circumstances, but this situation gives the big dog (Israel) lots of freedom of action.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (1m82a)

140 >>Assad is horrible as well but the insanity of the US supporting the remnants of ISIS/AQ in Syria is disgusting.


John McCain was the Founder of ISIS.

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (vGiQ3)

141 When I visited there, the walls were all dingy from centuries of worshippers and tourists rawdogging the air.

There were people complaining that the rebuild was all wrong because it is so bright and clean. Yeah, that's what happens when a structure stands for nearly 8 centuries.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (RsS92)

142 African clergy don't do gay. Cardinal Sarah as Pope would be grand.

That would be fantastic. So the Vatican won't allow it to happen.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (2ocoG)

143 Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
This last election taught us that "democracy" doesn't actually mean anything to the people who scream it all the time.
-

Suggested reading:

The Total State: How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies, by Auron MacIntyre

https://tinyurl.com/mufszh2b

Suitable for countries of all ages.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (CflQn)

144 Iran and Russia want a corridor across Syria to the Med.
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I Danzig see that coming!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (hovnC)

145
JD Vance is a new Catlick.

I suppose he converted on account of his wife.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (ATg0j)

146 Didn't somebody predict something big would happen Dec 3rd?...

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (SSBCb)

147 >>> 65
==
Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)

If I were Catholic I would also vote for him.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (KcwUg)

148 Speaking of Notre Dame, here's a really neat crowd picture taken inside Notre Dame of all of the very fine people who have worked to restore it the last five years.

http://tiny.cc/73wyzz


What a great picture. Of course, there's always one. On the right, front row on the altar, is a guy taking his own picture of the altar.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (xCA6C)

149 51 He was being wheeled around in a wheelchair frequently even a couple of years ago.

I'm kind of surprised he's lasted this long.


adrenochrome is an amazing thing

Posted by: anachronda at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (v3pYe)

150 "Paris has been preparing for the reopening of the cathedral, which will be marked by days of celebration starting on Saturday. Laurent Ulrich, the Archbishop of Paris, along with Macron, will preside over Saturday's service, which will be broadcast on French television. Nearly 170 bishops from France and around the world are expected to participate in the celebration, along with one priest from each of the 106 parishes in the Diocese of Paris, and one priest from each of the seven Eastern Catholic Churches, accompanied by Catholics from these communities, according to Notre Dame's website.

The inaugural mass, with the consecration of the high altar, will be on Sunday."

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (QTCRF)

151 129
Maybe the fake "pope" is wise to something bad that is planned for Notre Dame...

His absence is making me suspicious.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 03, 2024 01:46 PM (ATg0j)

He's old and in awful health...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2024 01:49 PM (exHjb)

152 147 >>> 65
==
Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)

If I were Catholic I would also vote for him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (KcwUg)

Only cardinals vote...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (exHjb)

153 Posted by: AoSHQ Emergency Response Squad at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (a3Q+t)
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I'll admit that at least it wasn't the Uke dickheads this time although there was an attempt.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (hovnC)

154 When I visited there, the walls were all dingy from centuries of worshippers and tourists rawdogging the air.

There were people complaining that the rebuild was all wrong because it is so bright and clean. Yeah, that's what happens when a structure stands for nearly 8 centuries.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:47 PM (RsS92)
________

They said the same thing about the restoration of the Sistine Chapel. But before the restoration, the ceiling was so dark and dingy you could barely make out the art. I was there after the restoration, but they had an exhibit on the restoration that included before and after photos. It was a huge improvement.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

155 Michelle Obama was on a drunken cruise of the Seine whilst the Notre Dame Cathedral burned. Coinkydink?

Posted by: I Want Answers! at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (nS6qG)

156 Made a suggestion to a friend this morning that I expect PDT to convert to Catholicism. Melania is and she's obviously a n influence on him.

My daughter is engaged to a Catholic, who apparently takes his faith seriously. So does my Episcopalian daughter. It will be interesting to see how they work things out with the wedding and the kids.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)

157 152 If I were Catholic I would also vote for him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (KcwUg)

Only cardinals vote...


*pouts*

Posted by: red sox at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (v3pYe)

158 What a great picture. Of course, there's always one. On the right, front row on the altar, is a guy taking his own picture of the altar.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (xCA6C)

But did he put his feet on Nanzi's desk?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (CIS44)

159 Maybe the fake "pope" is wise to something bad that is planned for Notre Dame...
Posted by: Soothsayer


They're gonna miss the 2-point conversion and lose by a field goal?

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:51 PM (v6JzV)

160 Do those reasons mostly show up in pairs?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:43 PM


One for the pickle, and one for the ball?

Posted by: J. Random Moron at December 03, 2024 01:51 PM (a3Q+t)

161 Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?

He's pretty old.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 01:51 PM (ExV1e)

162 There were people complaining that the rebuild was all wrong because it is so bright and clean. Yeah, that's what happens when a structure stands for nearly 8 centuries.

I take those people about as seriously as I take the deaf "activists" who oppose cochlear implants.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:51 PM (xCA6C)

163 In May, when the lawfare against Trump was heating up, Joe Biden claimed that no one is “above the law.” This is not true. James Clapper, who lied under oath to Congress about spying on the public, is above the law. FBI agents who abused their power and conspired against the duly elected president are above the law. Generals who make secret calls to our enemies to circumvent the president are above the law. John Brennan, who lied about Hunter Biden’s laptop and a spying operation on Senate staffers, is above the law. Obama’s former Attorney General Eric Holder, unlike Trump appointees, was never going to be handcuffed or thrown into prison for ignoring a congressional subpoena. He is above the law. As were Black Lives Matter rioters whom Vice President Kamala Harris helped bail out of prison.

And the Biden family is definitely above the law.

----------------------
Good summary of the disgusting Biden era, and Democrat attacks on our Republic.


https://tinyurl.com/4tkukzdt

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (A1k5O)

164 The Pope has a thousand dollars worth of paint on his ceiling alone. Why would he want to visit a lesser chapel in a foreign country?

Posted by: Archie Bunker-Art Critic at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (nS6qG)

165 > There were people complaining that the rebuild was all wrong because it is so bright and clean. Yeah, that's what happens when a structure stands for nearly 8 centuries.

Same with the Sistine Chapel restoration. All the restored colors were vivid and bright. People who had always seen the ceiling paintings covered in soot and crud were grumpy about the change.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (Odg76)

166 Somewhat related...despite assurances that thousands of Norks were sent to Ukraine to assist Russia..no one has seen them. So, the Norks have likely discovered the secret to invisibility.

I think that warrants Martial Law...and a nice glass of Soju.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (dIske)

167 156 Made a suggestion to a friend this morning that I expect PDT to convert to Catholicism. Melania is and she's obviously a n influence on him.

My daughter is engaged to a Catholic, who apparently takes his faith seriously. So does my Episcopalian daughter. It will be interesting to see how they work things out with the wedding and the kids.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)

My originally Baptist friend married a Catholic man...she didn't stay Baptist all that long...and she was pretty hardcore about her faith (and now is about her Catholicism)...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (exHjb)

168 My daughter is engaged to a Catholic, who apparently takes his faith seriously. So does my Episcopalian daughter. It will be interesting to see how they work things out with the wedding and the kids.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)

I'm a convert. Although nobody else in my family has followed me across (yet), my eldest daughter has told me she has no problem marrying a traditional Catholic and raising the kids in the Faith.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:52 PM (LxER7)

169 101 Speaking of Notre Dame, here's a really neat crowd picture taken inside Notre Dame of all of the very fine people who have worked to restore it the last five years.

http://tiny.cc/73wyzz

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 01:42 PM (Odg76)


Amazing how it looks inside after nearly 800 years of accumulated candle soot was removed. It must have stunned the people who saw it new, way back in the 13 Century.

Classic, high-arch churches are awe-inspiring, inside and out. It's sad no parishes of any denomination can afford to build them nowadays. Or choose to not build them for other reasons.

Posted by: Gref at December 03, 2024 01:53 PM (aBgBM)

170 My wife converted to Catholicism in 2020. Too late for my very Catholic Grandfather to see, but I assume he's looking down with a smile.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2024 01:53 PM (2cS/G)

171
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
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Follow
NEW: CNN says the chaos in South Korea reminds them of Donald Trump, suggests Trump's return to Washington might look like this.

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Trump, you magnificent bastard, is there NOTHING you can't do?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (UVu6u)

172 Is Sen Miss Lindsey Graham demanding we send troops?

Posted by: Don Black at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (/7KEl)

173 This reminds me of that singularity of evil, Madame Hillary, who coined the phrase "Russian asset" to describe DJT and Tulsi.

Such a malignant, studied Motte and Bailey fallacy contained in a single phrase, which has no defined subject or object.

So by asserting (falsely, or at least unfalsifiably) that the person is a thing of value to the Russkies ("asset") they get to imply (Motte) that the one so smeared is an active agent of malign influence, yet can retreat to the (Bailey) that they were only saying the person was a thing (object) of value to the Russian actors and were not asserting any conscious treason, etc.

Same with "collusion." Same as it ever was.

Posted by: Zek at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (5FPX4)

174 172 Is Sen Miss Lindsey Graham demanding we send troops?
Posted by: Don Black at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (/7KEl)

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"Yes! Wait...where? Nah, doesn't matter. Send the troops!"
-Graham

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

175 Speaking of 3rd world sh*tholes, it came up at the end of a thread recently:

Are there lots of yoga pants worn in places where women genuinely have to fear sexual assault, or are they mainly an indicator of how safe a country/area is?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (NXhou)

176 Rumor has it the rioters were yelling either "Yoon Suk" or "You Suck," so the authorities couldn't tell if they were pro or anti-Yoon. But, everyone still agreed that Biden sucks.

Posted by: DougT at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (FGQ01)

177 "Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend. And yet the pope won't. Has anyone heard the reasoning why?"

Pope doesn't want to be overshadowed by Trump?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (Cus5s)

178 Una patria, un estado, un caudillo! Viva Donaldo!

There, got it all out of my system. Now, back to our regularly scheduled democracy.

Posted by: Paco at December 03, 2024 01:54 PM (njExo)

179 Everyone probably already knows this but the restoration of Notre Dame was aided in part by Ubisoft because they had done a detailed 3D recreation of it for Assassin's Creed I think. God reveals Himself in beautiful ways.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 01:55 PM (3hycG)

180 Every political prisoner in America right now...and sadly we have a lot of them...are there for opposing the Biden junta.

Every single one.
Posted by: 18-1
===

Not all.
Some are there for not showing enough nthusiasm for the junta.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:55 PM (OCycp)

181 Classic, high-arch churches are awe-inspiring, inside and out. It's sad no parishes of any denomination can afford to build them nowadays. Or choose to not build them for other reasons.

Although there are some awesome anglican/episcopalian churches out there, generally speaking protestants build meh to ugly churches. Especially lately. My church looks like a barn. A lot of them are in strip malls these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 01:55 PM (RsS92)

182 No shit, Sherlock.

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 4m
The U.S. State Department has issued a security alert advising Americans in South Korea. “The situation is fluid. Please monitor local news sources for updates as the situation progresses.”

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 13m
• The U.S. Secretary of State has been briefed on the ongoing situation inside of South Korea.
• Confirms reporting that the U.S. was not notified.
• No threat assessment to offer that might indicate a specific threat from the North Koreans that might have induced the South Korean President’s decision.
-- State Department Principal Deputy Press Secretary Vedant Patel

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 01:55 PM (hovnC)

183 I remember fondly the days when asking "is the Pope Catholic" was not a sincere question.

Posted by: Splunge at December 03, 2024 01:56 PM (hmKaK)

184 Made a suggestion to a friend this morning that I expect PDT to convert to Catholicism. Melania is and she's obviously a n influence on him.


You want heads exploding?
PDJT converts to Judaism because of his grands.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:56 PM (xgUr8)

185 NEW: CNN says the chaos in South Korea reminds them of Donald Trump, suggests Trump's return to Washington might look like this.
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Is this part of CNN's era of self-discovery and "tack to the center" or nah bro?

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 01:56 PM (3hycG)

186 Huh. Well, I guess it is always about corruption. Just scale.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2024 01:56 PM (HsOwE)

187 Both sides saw the bus with "Welcome US Gis" on the side. A whistle was blown the rioters stepped back and bowed as the bus passed. My friend looked out the back and saw the riot start up again. An odd people
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2024


***
When Miss Linda was teaching English there in late '99-early '00, she said she often saw couples going for hikes in the Seoul parks -- wearing dress clothes and shoes. That, and their fondness for eating family style in restaurants, i.e., one big bowl of the main course is served and everybody helps himself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2024 01:56 PM (J2vNu)

188 Did they ever figure out what spontaneously combusted in multiple places to set the 18" wooden beams on fire?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (NXhou)

189 JD Vance is a new Catlick.

I suppose he converted on account of his wife.


She is so oppressively Hindu that he became Catholic?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (ExV1e)

190 Always the diplomats:

"Some French bishops were "annoyed" by the pope's decision to stay away from the Notre Dame gala, according to one bishop speaking on condition of anonymity.

But the head of the Bishops' Conference of France (CEF) Archbishop Eric de Moulins-Beaufort said: "The star of the Notre Dame reopening ceremony is Notre Dame itself."

The pope had not wanted his presence to be a distraction from the essential point of the occasion, he added.

"It's not a snub aimed at France," said another bishop."

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (QTCRF)

191 The Deep State talked the South Korean president into taking this action to see how it would play out, because they want to try it here at home.

...I hope this is just a really really nutty conspiracy theory.

By the way, I wonder if any money was laundered through South Korea?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

192 My niece, who was raised Catholic, married a Jewish guy.
The wedding, in a Catholic church, was presided over by both a priest and a rabbi.

Talk about weird.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (v6JzV)

193 >>> 152 147 65
==
Where do I put in my vote for Robert, Cardinal Sarah for next Pope?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (LxER7)

If I were Catholic I would also vote for him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (KcwUg)

Only cardinals vote...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (exHjb)

I knew there was a catch!!!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (KcwUg)

194 Rumor has it the rioters were yelling either "Yoon Suk" or "You Suck," so the authorities couldn't tell if they were pro or anti-Yoon. But, everyone still agreed that Biden sucks.
Posted by: DougT


Rumor has it the rioters were yelling either "Yoon Suk" or "You Suck," so the authorities couldn't tell if they were pro or anti-Yoon. But, everyone still agreed that Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 03, 2024 01:58 PM (xgUr8)

195 Although there are some awesome anglican/episcopalian churches out there, generally speaking protestants build meh to ugly churches. Especially lately. My church looks like a barn. A lot of them are in strip malls these days.

There's always an argument about whether the money used to build magnificent cathedrals wouldn't be better spent on the poor. Those cathedrals are awesome and inspiring, and at the same time, they're an extravagance, but I'm sure glad they're there for me to visit.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:58 PM (xCA6C)

196 If I were Catholic I would also vote for him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (KcwUg)

Only cardinals vote...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2024 01:50 PM (exHjb)

I knew there was a catch!!!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (KcwUg)

You can still send up the white smoke when you decided on something important, like dinner.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (CIS44)

197 Francis has yet to make a state visit to France, Spain, UK and Germany.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (QTCRF)

198 NEW: CNN says the chaos in South Korea reminds them of Donald Trump, suggests Trump's return to Washington might look like this.

Biden is going to declare martial law to keep Republicans from being seated in their duly elected seats?

Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (pA2OL)

199 Classic, high-arch churches are awe-inspiring, inside and out. It's sad no parishes of any denomination can afford to build them nowadays. Or choose to not build them for other reasons.

Posted by: Gref at December 03, 2024 01:53 PM (aBgBM)

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Reminds me of the pretty good TV mini-series "The Pillars of The Earth (based on an English historical novel by author Ken Follett).

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (UVu6u)

200 He did express a desire to visit China, though.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (QTCRF)

201 BNO News Live @BNODesk 4h
FULL TEXT: Order from South Korea's Martial Law Command:
To protect liberal democracy and safeguard the safety of citizens from the threat of anti-state forces operating within the Republic of Korea, the following measures are hereby declared across the entire nation effective from 11:00 PM on December 3, 2024:

All political activities, including the operation of the National Assembly and local councils, political party activities, political associations, assemblies, and demonstrations, are prohibited.

Any acts that deny or seek to overthrow the liberal democratic system, as well as the dissemination of fake news, manipulation of public opinion, and false propaganda, are prohibited.

All media and publications will be subject to the control of the Martial Law Command.

Strikes, slowdowns, and assemblies that incite social unrest are prohibited.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (hovnC)

202 BNO News Live @BNODesk 4h
All medical personnel, including resident doctors currently on strike or who have abandoned their posts, must return to their duties and fully resume work within 48 hours. Failure to comply will result in punishment under martial law.

Measures will be taken to minimize inconvenience to ordinary citizens who are not part of anti-state or subversive forces.

Violators of this proclamation will be subject to arrest, detention, and search and seizure without a warrant under Article 9 of the Republic of Korea Martial Law Act (Special Authority of the Martial Law Commander) and will be punished under Article 14 (Penalties) of the same law.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (hovnC)

203 My niece, who was raised Catholic, married a Jewish guy.
The wedding, in a Catholic church, was presided over by both a priest and a rabbi.

Talk about weird.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (v6JzV)
____

It happens. Seen a few myself.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (iFTx/)

204 Maybe his outreach, his focus is lesser developed countries.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (QTCRF)

205 The pope had not wanted his presence to be a distraction from the essential point of the occasion, he added.
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Seems to think pretty highly of himself.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (3hycG)

206 You can still send up the white smoke when you decided on something important, like dinner.
Posted by: BruceWayne

So that's what you've been calling it when you burn dinner...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (8JwUr)

207 I know this president is going to be under arrest regardless.
But what if he is actually right about the opposition party being in North Korea’s pocket?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (jbnUc)

208 The South Korean president may be misguided, but when he says that the opposition is full of North Korean sympathizers maybe there is some basis to that.

Posted by: PG at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (uZ2lt)

209 Reminds me of the pretty good TV mini-series "The Pillars of The Earth (based on an English historical novel by author Ken Follett).

Featuring a young, nude, and rather plump Haley Atwell.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (xCA6C)

210 The wedding, in a Catholic church, was presided over by both a priest and a rabbi.

Talk about weird.

==

Very, also probably not Kosher.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (QTCRF)

211 CNN is the Betsy Wetsy network. It's just liberals Nancys pants perfomatively pants wetting to the latest concern.

Posted by: Oh the incontinence!!!! at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (EY4oe)

212 Those cathedrals are awesome and inspiring, and at the same time, they're an extravagance

Its a one-time extravagance teaching about the glory of God and pulling people into worship, I don't have a problem with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (RsS92)

213 Crazy thought...

Could Trump be the Pope AND the President?

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (fV+MH)

214 Those cathedrals are awesome and inspiring, and at the same time, they're an extravagance, but I'm sure glad they're there for me to visit.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:58 PM (xCA6C)

Those cathedrals also had state backing. Stateside, churches built w/in the last 200+ years were built using funds and labor from the church members.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (9mfKN)

215 Strikes, slowdowns, and assemblies that incite social unrest are prohibited.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (hovnC)


What about raw dogging air?

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (PiwSw)

216 I know this president is going to be under arrest regardless.
But what if he is actually right about the opposition party being in North Korea’s pocket?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

-

I guess it will be up to the WEF / Davos crowd.

What do you think, Poland?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (NXhou)

217 Often times the cathedrals were built by the towns themselves over decades. Local artisans would work on the structure or ornamentation both as a donation, glorify God, and also to serve as advertising.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2024 02:01 PM (HsOwE)

218 So that's what you've been calling it when you burn dinner...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (8JwUr)

That would be the black smoke of the failed decision.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (CIS44)

219 Black African cardinals and bishops don't play.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold


Which is why the commie cabal of Cardinals will never allow one of those men to be the Pope.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (4XwPj)

220 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

This already briefly occurred to me but I dismissed it as "crazy".

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (3hycG)

221 BNO News Live @BNODesk 17m
Still no word from South Korean President Yoon, nearly 3 hours since parliament voted to end martial law

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (hovnC)

222 So, I actually looked up Francis' travel.

He's actually scheduled to go to something else in France in 12 days. He just got back from Indonesia a couple of months ago.

His health isn't keeping him from traveling.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

223 Francis has yet to make a state visit to France, Spain, UK and Germany.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2024 01:59 PM (QTCRF)

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Film reboot idea: "Francis the Talking Horse's Ass."

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (UVu6u)

224 Sen Miss Lindsey Graham demanding we send troops?
Posted by: Don Black



To Notre Dame

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2024 02:03 PM (lTGtQ)

225 "You want heads exploding?
PDJT converts to Judaism because of his grands."

Then Trump could declare himself a woman, a be the first Jewish, and first female POTUS.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 03, 2024 02:03 PM (Cus5s)

226
My daughter is engaged to a Catholic, who apparently takes his faith seriously.

__________

If you're a Catholic, you should. I was lapsed for 30+ years. When I returned, I realized all the things I thought were silly about the Faith made good sense.

There's lots of stuff we don't question. Force equals mass times acceleration. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. The atomic mass of cobalt is 58.933. Things may get adjusted at the tenth point beyond the decimal but things are for all intents and purposes fixed. That's the Magesterium of the Church.

Now we have Francis, who's the ecclesiastical equivalent of the IUPAC saying, "Hey folks! In response to the modern world, the atomic mass of cobalt is 86." You'd lose respect for any institution that made such radical changes for no good reason.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 02:03 PM (dxSpM)

227 >>> 206 You can still send up the white smoke when you decided on something important, like dinner.
Posted by: BruceWayne

So that's what you've been calling it when you burn dinner...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 03, 2024 02:00 PM (8JwUr)

Isn't that usually black smoke?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:03 PM (KcwUg)

228 Unbelievable.

During the week of Nov. 6, MSNBC averaged just 38,000 viewers among adults 25-54, its lowest-rated non-holiday weekday since July 19, 2004.

https://is.gd/GoYCox

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:03 PM (xCA6C)

229 > The wedding, in a Catholic church, was presided over by both a priest and a rabbi.

A priest, a pastor, and a rabbi are at lunch talking and they discover they all recently had a squirrel problem. The priest complains he hired an exterminator who cleared out the squirrels from the building, but two weeks later they were back.

The pastor says they got live traps, caught the squirrels, released them in a preserve miles away, but two weeks later they came back.

The rabbi says he and the trustees got together to discuss their squirrel problem. They decided to make the squirrels full members of the synagogue. Now they only see the squirrels on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (Odg76)

230 All I need to know is who the Left is supporting in this little contretemps and that will inform me about what to think.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (3hycG)

231 South Korea and Taiwan both effected by constant attempts at infiltration into the government. No matter what side, Asians take steps that western democracies don't and probably shouldn't. And bribes in multiple forms are a normal way of doing business.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (D6PGr)

232 I know this president is going to be under arrest regardless.
But what if he is actually right about the opposition party being in North Korea’s pocket?


Its probably being overstated, but there is something to it. They are pretty hard left, like the US Democratic Party, and pushing a hard left agenda, but they aren't stooges. Just sympathetic with communism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (RsS92)

233 Cardinal Robert Sarah would be my man.

Posted by: DAN at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (wDLi3)

234 Adult circumcision would not be on my bucket list.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (HsOwE)

235 >>> 222 So, I actually looked up Francis' travel.

He's actually scheduled to go to something else in France in 12 days. He just got back from Indonesia a couple of months ago.

His health isn't keeping him from traveling.

Curiouser and curiouser.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

HA!

I was right! FakePope doesn't want to catch on fire!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (KcwUg)

236 By the way, I wonder if any money was laundered through South Korea?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 01:57 PM (tT6L1)

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It's all good as long as it goes through Ukraine first.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (UVu6u)

237 The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

-

About that...

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (NXhou)

238 "BNO News Live @BNODesk 17m
Still no word from South Korean President Yoon, nearly 3 hours since parliament voted to end martial law
Posted by: andycanuck "


Purity of Essence

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (fV+MH)

239 Amateur hour. If you're gonna declare war on your country's legislature and declare martial law, you have to arrest and imprison the lawmakers. Every crooked dictator wanna-be knows that.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (rj6Yv)

240 Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (Odg76)

LOL

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (v6JzV)

241 Can they restore Taylor Lorenz and make her look 30ish?

Posted by: Wally at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (arcdH)

242 Leading Report @LeadingReport 3m
BREAKING: Georgia court has ordered Fani Willis to disclose all communications with Special Counsel Jack Smith and the Democrat-led January 6th Committee.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (hovnC)

243 There's lots of stuff we don't question. Force equals mass times acceleration. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. The atomic mass of cobalt is 58.933. Things may get adjusted at the tenth point beyond the decimal but things are for all intents and purposes fixed. That's the Magesterium of the Church.

Now we have Francis, who's the ecclesiastical equivalent of the IUPAC saying, "Hey folks! In response to the modern world, the atomic mass of cobalt is 86." You'd lose respect for any institution that made such radical changes for no good reason.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I love it when people frame an argument in terms I can understand.

That said, the church sometime DOES have to change. I'm thinking of priestly celibacy.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (xCA6C)

244

But more importantly how does this impact Taylor Lorenz??

Posted by: E Buzz at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (JROaS)

245 Only cardinals vote...

Stunningly, unbelievably, it appears that there are some here who do not know that. They've opened a new cafeteria for you.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (zdLoL)

246 You not risten! I not say martial raw!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (KWhXb)

247 Meanwhile Biden is touting a trans-Africa railroad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (63Dwl)

248 I've been reading Korean novels lately. (Translated, I'm not a polyglot.)

A recurring theme is MASSIVE government corruption, from the local to the national level. Sometimes as a "it's just how things are done" and sometimes as an indictment while the main character fights for justice or revenge.

My guess is that Koreans think their government is more corrupt than most Americans.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (N1DT3)

249 >>> 237 The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

-

About that...
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:05 PM (NXhou)

Yeah, it's 186,282 mps.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (KcwUg)

250 Black African cardinals and bishops don't play.

Yeah, I would love an African Pope just because he'd be orthodox as hell, but there's no chance the Lavender Mafia lets it happen

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (RsS92)

251 Yoon should have had Wuhan release another deadly flu bugz and all his wet dreams would have worked. Ask Manhattan how that goes.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (jFCkp)

252 But more importantly how does this impact Taylor Lorenz??

Posted by: E Buzz at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (JROaS)
-----------

Have you seen Taylor "dance?" She's obviously received several impacts to the head already.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

253 Maybe switch wives in either Korea?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (d2bW3)

254 Only cardinals vote...

Not the blue jays? I demand the franchise for blue jays, in the name of avian equity and justice!

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (v6JzV)

255 I believe Cardinal Sarah is too old.

I'd go with Cardinal Raymond Burke.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (pA2OL)

256 Yeah, it's 186,282 mps.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (KcwUg)

And Chuck Norris still makes it in bed before the room goes dark.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (CIS44)

257 That said, the church sometime DOES have to change. I'm thinking of priestly celibacy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (xCA6C)

Yes, but that's policy, not theology. And there are some waivers for married priests. (Several married Anglican and Episcopal priests have become RC priests, although I believe they can't become bishops.)

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (LxER7)

258 >>> 256 Yeah, it's 186,282 mps.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:07 PM (KcwUg)

And Chuck Norris still makes it in bed before the room goes dark.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (CIS44)

Because he's that fast, or because the light waits for him???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (KcwUg)

259 254 Only cardinals vote...

Not the blue jays? I demand the franchise for blue jays, in the name of avian equity and justice!
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:08 PM (v6JzV)

=======

Orioles revolted for the vote in 1692, but they were massacred by Polish princes looking for a way to gain favor with the papacy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

260 Meanwhile Biden is touting a trans-Africa railroad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

They can link it up with that one across the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (v6JzV)

261
I'd go with Cardinal Raymond Burke.

Posted by: Just Lily



Isn't he in a wheelchair? Or was that just a prop when he played Ironside?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (lTGtQ)

262 Now you got me playing all the universe number games in my head which I'm fascinated about.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (D6PGr)

263
I'm thinking of priestly celibacy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (xCA6C)

_________

That's a solution looking for a problem. For centuries young men have found a Vocation, knowing through the long years of formation that they can never marry. And the Church had no problem attracting Vocations.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (dxSpM)

264 Because he's that fast, or because the light waits for him???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (KcwUg)

Ahhhh yes, one of life's unanswerable questions.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (CIS44)

265 The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.

-

About that...
-

Yeah, it's 186,282 mps.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

-

No, just the one-way number, please.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:10 PM (NXhou)

266 Yoon Suks!

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2024 02:10 PM (fwDg9)

267 Meanwhile Biden is touting a trans-Africa railroad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot



Like the one those evil colonialist British were building 130 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (lTGtQ)

268 I'd go with Cardinal Raymond Burke.
Posted by: Just Lily

I first read that as "Cardinal Raymond Burr."

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

269 I believe Cardinal Sarah is too old.

I'd go with Cardinal Raymond Burke.
Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024


***
I read that as "Raymond Burr."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (J2vNu)

270 58 "Donald Trump is about to be president. Somebody who has said he wants to use the military to go after his own enemies."

When? He never said any such thing. They're afraid he'll do what they've been doing, i.e., weaponize the entire government, from the FBI to the CDC to the EPA to the Dept. of Education against political opposition. Which of course he never has and won't.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (ZlOcj)

271
I hope this doesn't affect the Squid Game show.

Posted by: Sapwolf at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (arJ9M)

272 Cardinal Robert Sarah would be my man.

Posted by: DAN at December 03, 2024 02:04 PM (wDLi3)

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#Based Former Archbishop and Apostolic Nuncio to the United States Carlo Maria Vigano FTW (FTP -- For The Popehood?)!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (Ra95j)

273
I first read that as "Cardinal Raymond Burr."
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

________

We have too many gay clerics as it is.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (dxSpM)

274 That's a solution looking for a problem. For centuries young men have found a Vocation, knowing through the long years of formation that they can never marry. And the Church had no problem attracting Vocations.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I think it's the reason there are so many gays in the church, though.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (v6JzV)

275 "The Universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
in all of the directions it can whiz.
As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know,
twelve-million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is..."

- Monty Python Universe Song

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (LxER7)

276 So it appears that law will prevail.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (aD39U)

277 Yoon ordered the doctors to go back to work. What were they striking about?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (D6PGr)

278 Donald Trump is about to be president. Somebody who has said he wants to use the military to go after his own enemies."
--------

AKA those paragons of Democracy, Tren de Agua

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:13 PM (3hycG)

279 We have too many gay clerics as it is.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 02:12 PM (dxSpM)

Your fault for making wears a dress and hangs out with young boys part of the job description.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 03, 2024 02:13 PM (KWhXb)

280 For centuries young men have found a Vocation, knowing through the long years of formation that they can never marry. And the Church had no problem attracting Vocations.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (dxSpM)


I guess the question is what percentage of those young men would never have been interested in a wife anyway? That certainly seems to be a modern problem for the Church.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 02:14 PM (ExV1e)

281 Could a retired priest get married?

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:14 PM (v6JzV)

282 281 Could a retired priest get married?
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:14 PM (v6JzV)

======

My step dad was a priest for more than a decade before he left the priesthood and married my mother a few years later.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

283 GA judge orders Fanny to release all communications with Jack Smith and the Jan 6 cmte. The court also found Fanny violated GA's open records law.

http://tiny.cc/18wyzz

There's video at the link of Fanny shifting around angrily in her seat as the court's findings and orders are read.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (Odg76)

284 They can link it up with that one across the Indian Ocean.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (v6JzV)
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Yeah, well, that wouldn't have happened but that guy just had to ask me to give him the ability to understand women....

Posted by: The Genie at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (tT6L1)

285 My father turns 92 today. My sister is visiting him to remind him of this.


Dementia is a sad sad thing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (aD39U)

286 The priesthood is definitely an occupation where a closeted gay man can hide his homosexuality without a lot of questions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (D6PGr)

287 I'm thinking of priestly celibacy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:06 PM (xCA6C)

I'm not thinking of it so much as being the living embodiment of it

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (3hycG)

288 Speaking of, there's a good video online of why things can't travel faster than the speed of light.

https://tinyurl.com/jfdwkxj6

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (NXhou)

289 Bing Crosby is rolling in his grave.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (fV+MH)

290 Meanwhile Biden is touting a trans-Africa railroad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

They can link it up with that one across the Indian Ocean.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM (v6JzV)

---------------

"The Kommie-la Emhoff Memorial African-Indian Intercontinental Bridge and Railroad to Nowhere."

/Another $10 trillion dollars down the drain ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (Ra95j)

291 283 GA judge orders Fanny to release all communications with Jack Smith and the Jan 6 cmte. The court also found Fanny violated GA's open records law.

http://tiny.cc/18wyzz

There's video at the link of Fanny shifting around angrily in her seat as the court's findings and orders are read.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (Odg76)

=======

She was gonna be on SCOTUS! Biden had promised her!

All she had to do was manage a stupid case in front of a stupid provincial court and wait for Biden, and then Kamala, to win!

It's not fair!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

292 What's the Korean version of the Thin Blue Line? How dare they besmirch their heroes in camo! Why do they hate their country? Next time they're in trouble why don't they call BLM?!

Posted by: If their rhetoric was like ours... at December 03, 2024 02:16 PM (dMtzC)

293 Sorry grump. I am. I will say some prayers.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:16 PM (3hycG)

294 Presdent Obama shoulds dew something about this Now !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at December 03, 2024 02:16 PM (ERLU3)

295 288 >> except quantum entanglement.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (KWhXb)

296 Celibacy is not the reason there gays in the clergy.

Gays are there because the seminaries stopped including homosexuality as an impediment to ordination.

Because the psychiatric community insisted that it wasn't a disorder anymore.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (pA2OL)

297 Yoon Suk Yeol is asshoe

Posted by: skinbad at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (x9Fhw)

298 Trans Africa Railroad
--------

The modern Democrat Party in three words.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (3hycG)

299 Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (NXhou)

Though there are theories that maybe there is something faster to explain the expanding universe.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (D6PGr)

300 >>@charliekirk11
·
>>2m
🚨BREAKING: A three judge panel from the notoriously progressive Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government has full authority to deport illegal immigrants, even if local officials including mayors and governors object.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (LkLld)

301 Because the psychiatric community insisted that it wasn't a disorder anymore.
Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (pA2OL)
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I believe the Church gave in because they were sued for discrimination.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)

302 http://tiny.cc/18wyzz

There's video at the link of Fanny shifting around angrily in her seat as the court's findings and orders are read.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (Odg76)

She's wearing that seem hideous dress when she testified in the original hearing.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (CIS44)

303 300 >>@charliekirk11
·
>>2m
🚨BREAKING: A three judge panel from the notoriously progressive Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government has full authority to deport illegal immigrants, even if local officials including mayors and governors object.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (LkLld)

========

The description of the 9th as "notoriously progressive" is about five years out of date.

But otherwise, nice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

304
Gays are there because the seminaries stopped including homosexuality as an impediment to ordination.

Because the psychiatric community insisted that it wasn't a disorder anymore.
Posted by: Just Lily

That community also gave papers to the church saying the pedo priests were *cured* and they would not bother children again in the '60s in Los Angeles.

Now they are chemically castrating young boys and having breasts chopped off young girls.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 03, 2024 02:20 PM (8JwUr)

305
I believe the Church gave in because they were sued for discrimination.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)

Right, same with pesos. You have to keep them once they have been rehabilitated.

That worked out well.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:20 PM (pA2OL)

306 Me and my stud muffin Douggie just got back from 2 weeks in Hawaii. Anything happening ????

Posted by: Kamal Harris at December 03, 2024 02:20 PM (lw59Z)

307 A three judge panel from the notoriously progressive Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government has full authority to deport illegal immigrants, even if local officials including mayors and governors object.

----------------

What if they strenuously object?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2024 02:20 PM (sX1BW)

308 285 My father turns 92 today. My sister is visiting him to remind him of this.


Dementia is a sad sad thing.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2024 02:15 PM (aD39U)

That fucking sucks man. Sorry your family is going through it.

Posted by: Awful thing, dementia at December 03, 2024 02:20 PM (dMtzC)

309 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) vented his displeasure Monday after two Democratic-appointed federal judges reversed their decisions to retire in what appear to be efforts to stop President-elect Trump from nominating their successors. McConnell called the unusual decisions to forgo retirement following Trump’s sweeping victory last month a “partisan” gambit that would undermine the integrity of federal courts. “They rolled the dice that a Democrat could replace them and now that he won’t, they’re changing their plans to keep a Republican from doing it,” McConnell said on the Senate floor. “It’s a brazen admission."

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (RHGPo)

310 except quantum entanglement.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 03, 2024 02:17 PM (KWhXb)
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The best analogy I could come up with for that was a 2x4 of infinite length. Move one end, the other moves simultaneously, without violating the laws regarding FTL.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (tT6L1)

311 Pedos! Not pesos.



Geeze!

Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (pA2OL)

312 "Innocent ordinary citizens, excluding anti-state forces and other subversive forces, will be subject to measures to minimize inconvenience in their daily lives."
------------

This is for your own good citizen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (XeU6L)

313 309 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) vented his displeasure Monday after two Democratic-appointed federal judges reversed their decisions to retire in what appear to be efforts to stop President-elect Trump from nominating their successors. McConnell called the unusual decisions to forgo retirement following Trump’s sweeping victory last month a “partisan” gambit that would undermine the integrity of federal courts. “They rolled the dice that a Democrat could replace them and now that he won’t, they’re changing their plans to keep a Republican from doing it,” McConnell said on the Senate floor. “It’s a brazen admission."
Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (RHGPo)

========

Rich, coming from a guy who did nothing to slow down Biden's own appointment of radical leftist judges over the past 4 years after actively conspiring to undermine the Republican president and punish the country for having the temerity of voting for him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

314 Right, same with pesos. You have to keep them once they have been rehabilitated.

That worked out well.
Posted by: Just Lily


Yeah, I hate pesophilia. US dollars or nothing.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:22 PM (v6JzV)

315 Meanwhile Biden is touting a trans-Africa railroad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

They can link it up with that one across the Indian Ocean.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:09 PM


I bless the trains down in Africa.

- Joe Biden

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 03, 2024 02:22 PM (kgE5c)

316 There's always an argument about whether the money used to build magnificent cathedrals wouldn't be better spent on the poor.

You'd think that Judas's argument wouldn't have quite so much traction so many years after the Lord Himself refuted it.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (hB7mE)

317 Rich, coming from a guy who did nothing to slow down Biden's own appointment of radical leftist judges over the past 4 years after actively conspiring to undermine the Republican president and punish the country for having the temerity of voting for him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

If he really believes that, he should start the process to remove them from the bench - and their pensions.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

318 "Pedos! Not pesos.
"


That sounds like some kind of Democrat campaign slogan.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (fV+MH)

319 Geeze!
Posted by: Just Lily at December 03, 2024 02:21 PM (pA2OL)
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Thank you for the clarification, I was wondering if there was some sort of monetary prohibition I was unaware of.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (tT6L1)

320
If he really believes that, he should start the process to remove them from the bench - and their pensions.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

It's almost as if he's doing meaningless grand-standing, but that can't be it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:24 PM (CIS44)

321 A three judge panel from the notoriously progressive Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government has full authority to deport illegal immigrants, even if local officials including mayors and governors object.

"OK yeah even I have to agree with that"
--Judge Kamehameha

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:24 PM (RsS92)

322 A three judge panel from the notoriously progressive Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has unanimously ruled the federal government has full authority to deport illegal immigrants, even if local officials including mayors and governors object.

*Squints disbelievingly* The Ninth Circus, really?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:24 PM (hB7mE)

323 "Pedos! Not pesos.
"


That sounds like some kind of Democrat campaign slogan.
Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (fV+MH)

Walz can use it in 2028 against AOC.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 03, 2024 02:24 PM (VNX3d)

324 316 There's always an argument about whether the money used to build magnificent cathedrals wouldn't be better spent on the poor.

You'd think that Judas's argument wouldn't have quite so much traction so many years after the Lord Himself refuted it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (hB7mE)

Right? The nards on that guy!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (LxER7)

325 Me and my stud muffin Douggie just got back from 2 weeks in Hawaii. Anything happening ????
Posted by: Kamal Harris


Nothing that concerns you in any way.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (/y8xj)

326 Whenever I see a presumed 1st world country do something inexplainable like this, I automatically think the CIA has it's wandering little fingers in it somehow. Especially, when the domestic media jumps on it to try and promote an unsubstantiated agenda close to home.

Last week, the CIA was trying to shape the Georgian election (and didn't get the desired result on the first round voting).

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (dIske)

327 It's a Catholic cathedral. He avoids those.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Is it?
In the US, St. Whatsisname church, grounds, convent, and parsonage is outright owned by The Catholic Church.

Probably a hangover from the extreme anti-clerisy revolution, much like the separate civil and religious marriage ceremonies, the Cathedral of Notre Dame is owned by the French government.

Whether or not this has anything to do with the Pope's decision is unknown.

Posted by: buddhaha at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (MnMvi)

328 It's almost as if he's doing meaningless grand-standing, but that can't be it.

Could it be that he's trying to resurrect his image in preparation for another term? Good God, when will these barnacles just slough the hell off?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (xCA6C)

329 I'm on the anti-communist side

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (xcxpd)

330 Bless of the caregivers and families of dementia and or Alzheimer’s patients
. Truly heartbreaking

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 03, 2024 02:26 PM (ALdIq)

331 Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) vented his displeasure Monday after two Democratic-appointed federal judges reversed their decisions to retire in what appear to be efforts to stop President-elect Trump from nominating their successors.

-----------------

What does reverse their decision mean? I assume it means they announced their retirement for a later date and are attempting to rescind that announcement? If that is the case, who or what accepts their retirement? Its an interesting question as to who controls this and I guess it depends on the process.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2024 02:27 PM (sX1BW)

332 There's always an argument about whether the money used to build magnificent cathedrals wouldn't be better spent on the poor.

You'd think that Judas's argument wouldn't have quite so much traction so many years after the Lord Himself refuted it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade


Doesn't help Judas had his sticky fingers in the till...not unlike the people who make that argument today.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (OUMaO)

333 Mike Benz is doing the Joe Rogan podcast.

Must see.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (LkLld)

334 The best analogy I could come up with for that was a 2x4 of infinite length.

It would have to be massless. Otherwise, it would require infinite force to move it.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (/y8xj)

335 Posted by: buddhaha at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (MnMvi)

Fun fact: The Vatican owns the Colosseum. Because of all the Christians who were offed there.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (v6JzV)

336 Suck Y'all is a great name, though.

Posted by: Josephistan at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (7jZ/w)

337 All I know about Korea is that the chicks can be really hot, or really really not, and half the hot ones are trannies.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

338 Its an interesting question as to who controls this and I guess it depends on the process.

My guess is there's no official process, they just decide to retire at a certain point and can change their minds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:28 PM (RsS92)

339 half the hot ones are trannies.
Posted by: BurtTC


I thought that was Thailand?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:29 PM (hB7mE)

340
I bless the trains down in Africa.

- Joe Biden
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
---------

An example of why I hang out with you pervs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2024 02:29 PM (XeU6L)

341 There's video at the link of Fanny shifting around angrily in her seat as the court's findings and orders are read.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024
=======

She was gonna be on SCOTUS! Biden had promised her!

All she had to do was manage a stupid case in front of a stupid provincial court and wait for Biden, and then Kamala, to win!

It's not fair!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024


***
I'd forgotten all about her.

There is justice, now and then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2024 02:29 PM (J2vNu)

342 Whenever I see a presumed 1st world country do something inexplainable like this, I automatically think the CIA has it's wandering little fingers in it somehow. Especially, when the domestic media jumps on it to try and promote an unsubstantiated agenda close to home.

Last week, the CIA was trying to shape the Georgian election (and didn't get the desired result on the first round voting).

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (dIske)

------------------

We're gonna need a lot MOAR colors for all these Deep State In-Your-Face revolutions and juntas.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:30 PM (BR6NL)

343 All I know about Korea is that the chicks can be really hot, or really really not, and half the hot ones are trannies.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2024


***
If Lost actress Yunjin Kim is a tranny, her surgeon is a genius!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 03, 2024 02:30 PM (J2vNu)

344 All I know about Korea is that the chicks can be really hot, or really really not, and half the hot ones are trannies.

And all of them have had plastic surgery

https://tinyurl.com/bdzezx6y

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:30 PM (RsS92)

345 Its an interesting question as to who controls this and I guess it depends on the process.

My guess is there's no official process, they just decide to retire at a certain point and can change their minds.

--------------

Certainly there is some precedence for this, though maybe not specifically related to an election result.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (sX1BW)

346 My guess is there's no official process, they just decide to retire at a certain point and can change their minds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


And this! Is what Mitch McConnell thinks is important enough for his attention?

Fuckin turtle.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (4XwPj)

347 Fun fact: The Vatican owns the Colosseum. Because of all the Christians who were offed there.

-

Which makes the statue of Moloch at the entrance very odd.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - leftists, remember Trump would be out soon if you hadn't stolen 2020 at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (NXhou)

348 Doesn't help Judas had his sticky fingers in the till...not unlike the people who make that argument today.
Posted by: Brother Tim


Silly of them to not think of the amount of graft they could get into with the construction.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (hB7mE)

349 Bless of the caregivers and families of dementia and or Alzheimer’s patients
. Truly heartbreaking
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
--------

Now that I am over 29, such circumstances are increasingly the case among friends and relatives, and I agree whole heartedly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (XeU6L)

350 James Lindsay set out to prove a point about the "woke right." He penned an essay under the pseudonym Marcus Carlson and submitted it to American Reformer. The essay paraphrased the Communist Manifesto. American Reformer published Marcus Carlson's (Karl Marx) essay.

http://tiny.cc/pawyzz

Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (Odg76)

351 Today I signed some kind of paper Pardoning South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol of all crimes....

Posted by: Joe Bribum at December 03, 2024 02:31 PM (Tl6Os)

352 the 190-0 parliamentary vote

Couldn't get The Couch, The Chicken or The Bernie

passed the time to hang it up yesterday

Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2024 02:32 PM (FhXTo)

353 the Cathedral of Notre Dame is owned by the French government.

After WWII, there were so many churches that were destroyed that the government authorities stepped in to reconstruct them using tax money.

This created more than enough folks who hated the churches because their tax money was being used to rebuild.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:32 PM (RHGPo)

354 Sounds insurrectiony.

Posted by: Just got here at December 03, 2024 02:32 PM (DobEs)

355 Who was that Korean chick with the really big boobs that was used as the model for some character in a video game?

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2024 02:32 PM (v6JzV)

356 Since you no eat mo vegeetabulls and you so fat you been here 4 hour you go now!

Not all day buffet! You go home now!

Martial Law!

Posted by: President Ching Chang Choo at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (Y5VD5)

357 There's video at the link of Fanny shifting around angrily in her seat as the court's findings and orders are read.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 03, 2024
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She was gonna be on SCOTUS! Biden had promised her!

All she had to do was manage a stupid case in front of a stupid provincial court and wait for Biden, and then Kamala, to win!

It's not fair!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 03, 2024

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Very few women can resist the power of Darius "Sweetdick" Honeycum, Esq!

/Putin must have planted him there ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (BR6NL)

358 Didn't somebody predict something big would happen Dec 3rd?...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2024 01:48 PM (SSBCb)

***

Heh

Posted by: Nostradamus at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (1FWWQ)

359 Suck Y'all is a great name, though.
Posted by: Josephistan
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Well, it is South Korea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (XeU6L)

360 Nood. FEMA.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (ExV1e)

361 324 316 There's always an argument about whether the money used to build magnificent cathedrals wouldn't be better spent on the poor.

You'd think that Judas's argument wouldn't have quite so much traction so many years after the Lord Himself refuted it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:23 PM (hB7mE)

Right? The nards on that guy!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (LxER7)

Actually that misses the point. The gospel itself says Judas only made the objection about selling the perfume because he was skimming the till and wanted some of those sweet, sweet denarii for himself. It was also a symbolic gesture foreshadowing Jesus' death and burial. So it really doesn't have anything to do with spending on church buildings versus charity.

Posted by: Spikenarding the football at December 03, 2024 02:33 PM (dMtzC)

362 Edison, NJ bans "props" American Flags and The Constitution from council meetings.

https://tinyurl.com/mrxaet4u

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2024 02:34 PM (CIS44)

363 YMCA singer Victor Willis has U-turned on his opposition to Donald Trump using the song in his rallies - while urging fans not to call it a 'gay anthem'. The 73-year-old founding member of Village People band previously urged the incoming president to stop playing their 1978 disco hit at his political demos. But on Sunday Willis changed his tune, saying he 'didn't have the heart' to continue fighting Trump's team after seeing how much the president-elect 'seems to genuinely like YMCA'. The airtime has pushed the song towards the top of the Billboard charts.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:34 PM (RHGPo)

364 Yesterday Biden pardon Barry Obama and not his son.

Obama is knee deep in this mess and heaven forbid that this would make "Chocolate Jesus" look bad.

All this Crap happened when Homo Boy was President and you cannot tell me that He/It/Them/They/Us didn't know what was going on !!!!

Posted by: Buster Hymandd at December 03, 2024 02:35 PM (1U5p7)

365 Illegal immigration cost American taxpayers a whopping 2.6 percent of the entire U.S. government's $6.1 trillion in federal spending for the entire 2023 fiscal year. This amounts to $150.7 billion, according to Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:35 PM (RHGPo)

366 half the hot ones are trannies.
Posted by: BurtTC

I thought that was Thailand?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:29 PM (hB7mE)

It's possible I'm engaging a pan-Asian stereotyping, for which I apologize, not at all.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2024 02:35 PM (dGCAG)

367 Yonhap: Yoon says martial law measures will be formally terminated through a state council meeting (this is a procedural requirement per the constitution)

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 03, 2024 02:35 PM (2cS/G)

368 Controversial billionaire hints at running for president with NBA legend Charles Barkley: 'We'd definitely win' (Mark Cuban)

.. Barkley would never run for public office

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:36 PM (RHGPo)

369 Hyung-Tae Kim was the girl used for the character model in Stellar Blade. Very lovely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2024 02:36 PM (RsS92)

370 67 Trump is going to be attending Notre Dame reopening. This weekend.

And yet the pope won't. Has anyone heard the reasoning why?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2024 01:38 PM (xCA6C)

Something about the Pope, a bear, and the woods.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 03, 2024 02:37 PM (SSBCb)

371 >>> 342 Whenever I see a presumed 1st world country do something inexplainable like this, I automatically think the CIA has it's wandering little fingers in it somehow. Especially, when the domestic media jumps on it to try and promote an unsubstantiated agenda close to home.

Last week, the CIA was trying to shape the Georgian election (and didn't get the desired result on the first round voting).

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2024 02:25 PM (dIske)

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We're gonna need a lot MOAR colors for all these Deep State In-Your-Face revolutions and juntas.
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Retribution Great Again! at December 03, 2024 02:30 PM (BR6NL)

We have some you can use!

Posted by: Faguar at December 03, 2024 02:38 PM (KcwUg)

372 Tennis legend Serena Williams is firing back at “haters.” who accused her of bleaching her skin after a recent appearance at a school with her family.

.. Good Lord .. apparently there just isn't enough racial strife

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:39 PM (RHGPo)

373 Breaking911 @Breaking911 3m
🚨SOUTH KOREAN PRESIDENT LIFTS MARTIAL LAW

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 3m
South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol has ordered Troops and Police enforcing his declared Martial Law to Stand-Down.

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 1m
President Yoon further states that he will move to immediately lift the Martial Law declared earlier today for South Korea.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 03, 2024 02:39 PM (hovnC)

374 Barkley would never run for public office
Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:36 PM (RHGPo)


True.
He'll just hang around at mid-court and kinda jog to the basket.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2024 02:40 PM (W/lyH)

375 What's all this talk about Marital Law...

Posted by: E,ily Litella at December 03, 2024 02:40 PM (1FWWQ)

376 On a brighter note, the NORK soldiers joining Russian forces are enjoying the internet, porn, and lots of vodka. That is prior to going in to the meat grinder.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2024 02:40 PM (oiNtH)

377 EMILY Litella g-d damn it

Posted by: Emly Litella at December 03, 2024 02:42 PM (1FWWQ)

378 Willis changed his tune, saying he 'didn't have the heart' to continue fighting Trump's team after seeing how much the president-elect 'seems to genuinely like YMCA'. The airtime has pushed the song towards the top of the Billboard charts.
Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 02:34 PM (RHGPo)

I'm sure its the heart you don't have and not anything to do with the second sentence.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:44 PM (3hycG)

379 Controversial billionaire hints at running for president with NBA legend Charles Barkley: 'We'd definitely win' (Mark Cuban)
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Win what? The prize for biggest dummies with 1% of the vote?

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2024 02:45 PM (3hycG)

380 Obligatory Circle Jerks

https://youtu.be/CJjuVzZQj0U?si=WGmBTYatNlnrX7nh

Posted by: 43 at December 03, 2024 02:51 PM (Vu7A1)

381 I thought that was Thailand?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 03, 2024 02:29 PM (hB7mE)


He's pre-law.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 03, 2024 02:53 PM (D7oie)

382 Made a suggestion to a friend this morning that I expect PDT to convert to Catholicism. Melania is and she's obviously a n influence on him.
You want heads exploding?
PDJT converts to Judaism because of his grands.
Posted by: rickb223 
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I have three different friends who did the convert bit. ( all because of wives). One Catholic, one LDS,(Mormon), and one Jewish From their descriptions, the Judaism one was the most difficult and complex.
First, there's the brit milah or bris....

Posted by: buddhaha at December 03, 2024 03:02 PM (MnMvi)

383 The TDer pedes over at patriot dot win remind us that it is a 300 member body and 100 refused to vote and that the opposition leader had been convicted of and/or facing legit corruption charges, and that the globalists are still angry that Yoon beat Lee in elections are are working here to reverse that.

Posted by: geewhiz at December 03, 2024 03:03 PM (65K9+)

384 Sorry, that's 110. https://tinyurl.com/3vsxtemc

Posted by: geewhiz at December 03, 2024 03:04 PM (65K9+)

385 BREAKING: A judge in Georgia just ordered Fani Willis to release all communications she had with Jack Smith and the January 6th Committee to plot the RICO case against President Trump.

The court also declared that she violated Georgia's Open Records Law.

"The Court also hereby ORDERS Defendant to conduct a diligent search of her records for responsive materials within five business days of the entry of this Order. Within that same fiveday period, Defendant is ORDERED to provide Plaintiff with copies of all responsive records that are not legally exempted or excepted from disclosure."

Big shoutout to @JudicialWatch
and the GREAT @TomFitton
for another slamdunk victory. This could bring major legal troubles for Fani if, indeed, she coordinated with the federal government to go after President Trump.

I have to say, the courts just haven't been kind to Fani. She loses every time she opens her mouth to argue a case. She probably regrets going after Trump and just wishes she was on a cruise or cabin massaging Nathan Wade's bald head.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2024 03:08 PM (RHGPo)

386 Looks like Yoon is ending the martial law?!

Posted by: geewhiz at December 03, 2024 03:22 PM (65K9+)

387 ' South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol"

Quit dead-naming me. I've changed my name to something new, now, hip, happening, and more in line with my new vibe!

Posted by: President Soon Tout Lee Fook Deh at December 03, 2024 03:22 PM (Ft5W9)

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