THE MORNING RANT – Periodic Roundup of the EV Follies [12/02/2024]

EV Death Pool Update: Rivian

Rivian is performing in a manner that according to any historical business metrics would have it on the path to bankruptcy in the very near future. The EV manufacturer is producing staggering losses, it is rapidly burning through its cash, and its already weak revenue figures have peaked and are now in decline.

“Rivian reports first drop in quarterly revenue since IPO, shows loss of $1.1 billion” [Detroit Free Press - 11/07/2024]

Rivian continues to lose over $30,000 on every vehicle it sells, and with a negative gross profit margin, there is no sales volume that would be profitable.

Expectations are being lowered to minimize how “unexpectedly” bad Rivian’s Q4 will be. Concurrently, Rivian continues to burn cash like it’s being consumed by a runaway thermal lithium fire. Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash, leaving it with just $5.4 billion.

“Rivian lowers earnings guidance after missing Wall Street’s third-quarter expectations” [CNBC – 11/07/2024]

In the quarter ended Sept. 30, Rivian said its cash and cash equivalents were $5.4 billion, compared with $7.86 billion in the fourth quarter of last year.

For some inexplicable reason, struggling automaker Volkswagen is trying to throw Rivian a $5.8 billion lifeline. VW desperately needs to liberate itself from its destructive commitment to EVs, but instead, it is aligning itself with Rivian, which makes as much sense as the fabled K-Mart/Sears merger, may it rest in peace.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration just announced that it is granting Rivian a $6 billion federal “loan” to re-start construction on its suspended new plant in Georgia.

“Nearly $6 billion federal loan will help Rivian restart construction of electric-vehicle plant” [MSN – 11/26/2024]

A nearly $6 billion federal loan will help electric-vehicle manufacturer Rivian restart construction of a $5 billion vehicle and battery plant near Covington, U.S. Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., announced Tuesday.
"There was real concern last spring that construction would never start," Ossoff told reporters Tuesday morning in an online briefing. "What we have now is a major step forward to make sure this plant is built in Georgia."

There is abundant excess capacity at Rivian’s existing Illinois plant, so there is no reason to build a plant in Georgia, and even if there were some product demand, subsidizing the plant with US tax dollars is offensive. And yes, this is a subsidy. If this were a viable project, banks would be lending the money. This “loan” will almost certainly never be repaid.

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Gangster Government Choosing EV Winners and Losers

Tesla founder Elon Musk has famously supported Donald Trump, and he also supports elimination of the government’s $7,500 EV tax credit. This is because Tesla doesn’t need the tax credit to be profitable selling its EVs, while Tesla’s competitors do not have any model for profit in the EV game without the government subsidizing its EV sales.

So, in the upside down world we live in, in which the government seeks to pick winners and losers, the Biden administration is seeking to choose Rivian as a winner by giving it $6 billion. Meanwhile, in California, which is the country’s biggest market for EVs, Governor Gavin Newsom is trying to make Tesla a loser in the EV marketplace, by explicitly targeting Tesla for retaliation.

Specifically, with the Trump administration seeking to eliminate the federal EV tax credit, California is not giving up yet on the all-electric dream, so Gov. Newsom is proposing to have California fund its own EV tax credit…with a catch. Tesla vehicles would be specifically excluded.

“Tesla would likely be excluded from new California EV tax credits, governor's office says” [Reuters – 11/26/2024]

Tesla's electric vehicles likely would not qualify for California's new state tax credits under a proposal in the works if President-elect Donald Trump scraps the federal tax credit for EV purchases, Governor Gavin Newsom's office said on Monday.

This is effectively no different than Newsom announcing that he is imposing a stiff Tesla-only tax. This gangster-style of government that Gavin Newsom embodies is the reason that Tesla relocated from California to Texas, and it certainly influenced Musk abandoning the Democrats in disgust.

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The Climate Cult’s War on Auto Manufacturing Jobs

Meanwhile in Europe, there has been a burst of announcements regarding automobile manufacturing plants being closed and auto workers getting laid off. This is a direct result of the “EV transition” that Europe’s leaders have tried to impose.

Stellantis (Chrysler, Vauxhall, Fiat, Peugeot, etc] just dropped some awful news on the British auto industry…

“Vauxhall will close its Luton factory in April with more than 1,100 jobs at risk after warning it may halt UK production amid row over government's electric vehicle targets” [Daily Mail – 11/26/2024]

Vauxhall's parent company Stellantis has announced plans to close its van plant in Luton, days after it warned the government that it could slash production in Britain over Labour's tough electric vehicle sales targets.

Ford is eliminating 4,000 jobs in Europe, mostly in Germany and the UK, because of the failed EV transition.

“Ford to cut 14% of European jobs, blaming EV shift and rising competition” [CNBC – 11/20/2024]

Ford said on Wednesday it would cut around 14% of its European workforce, blaming significant losses in recent years compounded by weak demand for electric vehicles, a lack of government support for the shift to EVs, and rising competition.

This comes just a few weeks after VW announced massive layoffs of its own, and the unprecedented announcement of multiple plant closures, also due in large part to the failed EV transition.

“Historic moment for Volkswagen: Automaker plans to close ‘at least’ 3 German plants and cut thousands of jobs” [CNN – 10/28/2024]

The domestic factory closures would be the first in Volkswagen’s 87-year history, and they lay bare the challenges facing Germany’s largest manufacturer.

This is all part of the European ruling class’ eco-war against the working class. The Davos crowd would be wise to back off sooner rather than later, since pushing people out of work and into despair is a political form of lighting a fuse which might not be extinguishable.

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Desperation Move – Pre-Tax EV Car Payments

The “EV transition” has been such a catastrophic failure that the U.K. is now trying to incentivize people to purchase an EV by making the monthly car payments pre-tax, much like a 401K or HSA contribution in the U.S.

“EV salary sacrifice explained: How to save 40% on a new electric car” [Daily Mail – 11/21/2024]

The £500 monthly payment is salary sacrificed and deducted from your income. If you fall into the 40 per cent tax bracket, you would have paid £200 income tax on that £500, leaving you with £300. But by salary sacrificing the money, it isn't taxed. Effectively, then your Tesla Model Y which costs £500 to lease is only costing you £300.

Government loves to use taxes, tax credits, and tax avoidance to influence consumer behavior…and governments REALLY love EVs. Maybe this should be called a 401Kar.
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) November 21, 2024

We can probably expect Gavin Newsom to offer up something like this in California. But excluding Tesla, of course.

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European EV Battery Dream Just Died

When the global eco-communists decided to “transition” the car industry, we were all assured that new jobs in the EV industry would replace the lost jobs. Battery manufacturing was one of the industries that was supposed to produce jobs. That dream has pretty much just died in Europe with the bankruptcy of Northvolt.

“Sweden's Northvolt files for bankruptcy, in blow to Europe's EV ambitions” [Reuters – 11/21/2024]

Northvolt, the Swedish maker of battery cells for electric vehicles, said on Thursday it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the U.S., dealing a blow to Europe's hopes that its most developed battery player would reduce Western car makers' reliance on Chinese rivals.
"Northvolt's liquidity picture has become dire," the company said in its Chapter 11 petition, filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Houston.

This will mean that pretty much all EV battery production will come from China now. An alternative – and I know this is crazy talk – is not to mandate electric vehicles and not import EV batteries at all.

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Goldman Sachs’ Investors Fleeced by EV Battery Investment

I’m not sure if I’m feeling schadenfreude or if I’m just glad that important financial lessons are being learned. Either way, this is a nice palate cleanser to end today’s roundup…

“Goldman Sachs takes $900 million hit on Northvolt investment; US bank is second-largest shareholder in Swedish battery maker which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy this week” [Financial Times – 11/23/2024]

The losses mark a sharp contrast to a bullish prediction just seven months ago by one of the Goldman funds, which told investors that its investment in Northvolt was worth 4.29 times what it had paid for it, and that this would increase to six times by next year.

A fool and his money are soon parted, and there are a lot of credentialed fools who bought into the EV hype.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 02, 2024 11:00 AM (/HDaX)

2 I like happy ending stories

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:00 AM (Pdbv+)

3 Wait

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:00 AM (Pdbv+)

4 NOODED

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 02, 2024 11:01 AM (/HDaX)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 02, 2024 11:01 AM (GYt5+)

6 That was weird, posted, 2nd it turned out but came back to a blank like I didn't post, or anyone.

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:01 AM (Pdbv+)

7 Credit to Musk. He used the tax credit to sell the first version of his car to wealthy liberals who were all too willing to signal their "environmental awareness" to their buddies and get a tax credit in the process. Now that his car is successful and has an infrastructure built up, he is going to sell it to the other side without any competition. Brilliant.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

8 Anyone else notice that the commercial battery market is crap these days too? Like your regular, run-of-the-mill AA batteries for stuff just seem to suck these days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2024 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

9 Shocking.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 02, 2024 11:04 AM (mAl+P)

10 Saw an ad for new VW van...assuming it's EV?

Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:04 AM (Yj6Os)

11 Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash, leaving it with just $5.4 billion.

Only Kamala is slightly better at 1 billion in 3 months.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:05 AM (S838b)

12 "Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash [...]"

So how many Kamalas is that? About 0.6, 0.7?

Posted by: Another Anon at December 02, 2024 11:05 AM (QNMaY)

13 I much prefer slot cars. They run on electricity, too!

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:06 AM (jFCkp)

14 11 Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash, leaving it with just $5.4 billion.

Only Kamala is slightly better at 1 billion in 3 months.
Posted by: rickb223

12 "Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash [...]"

So how many Kamalas is that? About 0.6, 0.7?
Posted by: Another Anon

Horde mind is real.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:06 AM (S838b)

15 People are saying the cyberpunk is ugly. To me it looks like someone designed it who played way too much halo, but not ugly.

The Rivians are truly ugly vehicles.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (HsOwE)

16 Huh. I thought Rivian had already gone tits up but remembered that it was Fisker.

Easily confused.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (/HDaX)

17 A LOT of companies need to be allowed to fail for getting on board the government's scam.

It's the only way other companies will resist the next stupid government mandate.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (N1DT3)

18 Kaboom? Oatmeal nowadays!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (QSrLX)

19 Who does Rivian think they are, Ukraine?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (HsOwE)

20 I much prefer slot cars. They run on electricity, too!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:06 AM

I believe it was P.J. O'ROurke who once described Porsches as "that ass-engined Nazi slot car".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 11:07 AM (ZANHd)

21 10 Saw an ad for new VW van...assuming it's EV?
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Yep. Saw the same. I can't imagine this, in any way, provides value to the buyer. Its cute in a very ghey way. Why not just build a new VW Van that is air cooled and runs on petroleum?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (jFCkp)

22 Horde mind is real.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:06 AM

And spectacular.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (ZANHd)

23 The “EV transition” has been such a catastrophic failure that the U.K. is now trying to incentivize people to purchase an EV by making the monthly car payments pre-tax, much like a 401K or HSA contribution in the U.S.

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How long before they simply declare their "Climate Emergency" and make EV purchase mandatory? Gov could even withhold payments from people's paychecks.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (LxER7)

24 The Fiskers actually were decent looking cars, imo. Sleek. Shark looking.

I like my cars like I like my women- curvy and unattainable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (HsOwE)

25 I believe it was P.J. O'ROurke who once described Porsches as "that ass-engined Nazi slot car".
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Hey, we came up with the Corvair. The fucker was fun.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (jFCkp)

26 Over the past 9 months, Rivian has burned through more than $2.4 billion in cash, leaving it with just $5.4 billion.

Only Kamala is slightly better at 1 billion in 3 months.

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Even the Mets made the playoffs.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:09 AM (sX1BW)

27 The EV bullshit just kills me. Remember when all the talk was about there wasn't enough of the natural minerals to make the batteries for all the cars? Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon. I wonder what's next?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2024 11:09 AM (W/lyH)

28 The market failures have proven that we relied too much on individual consumers making the right choice and we must now take every non-EV car off the market.

I'm sure that's going to be the reasoning.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 02, 2024 11:09 AM (+4yJ5)

29 GM / Dodge is planning on building a mid size EV truck.

On that note could someone post the clip of the new Billy Bob Thornton TV show that’s making the rounds.

I can’t believe the entertainment business would have allowed something like that to be made.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:09 AM (D6PGr)

30 Hey, we came up with the Corvair. The fucker was fun.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (jFCkp)

And the truck with the side loading bed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:10 AM (HsOwE)

31 I still say Maserati's are beautiful cars...except now they are making electric versions as well...ugh.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 02, 2024 11:10 AM (DJ7uY)

32 Based on the level of detail provided in their 30 second ads, the Cadillac Lyriq lease looks attractive.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 02, 2024 11:10 AM (7fVdQ)

33 I did my part for the environment and traded in my 19 mpg Jeep for a 20 mpg Chevy Colorado trail boss

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:11 AM (D6PGr)

34 The EV auto industry is in such high demand that we have to pay them to exist.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 11:11 AM (jbnUc)

35 I was sad to see in earlier posts over the weekend Nissan might go belly up over its EV cars tanking. I've enjoyed all the Nissans I've driven in. One of the best rental cars I ever had was an Altima, I think. Handled well and the trunk was roomy.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:11 AM (wcIbG)

36 The EU still has the law forbidding registration of ICE vehicles after 2035, IIRC. That's why it's impossible for the EU mfrs to ditch EV. The EU has literally fucked themselves. And I'm jhere for it, as the kids say.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:11 AM (IG4Id)

37 Saw an ad for new VW van...assuming it's EV?
Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:04 AM (Yj6Os)

I think so. Ugly l'il bastard.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (W/lyH)

38 31 I still say Maserati's are beautiful cars...except now they are making electric versions as well...ugh.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 02, 2024 11:10 AM (DJ7uY)

I'd say the most beautiful modern car (last 15 years) was that alfa Romeo...9(C?) But I think it was a body dropped on an audi internal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (HsOwE)

39 The Davos crowd would be wise to back off sooner rather than later, since pushing people out of work and into despair is a political form of lighting a fuse which might not be extinguishable.

This has never caused a problem in Europe... ever.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (ExV1e)

40 Rivian continues to lose over $30,000 on every vehicle it sells,

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But make it up on volume?
Badum-bum.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (Fj+kx)

41

Carlos Tavares is out as CEO of Stellantis, capping an almost four-year run as head of the company that owns Jeep, Ram, Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat.

Tavares’ resignation was announced Sunday in a company news release.

Stellantis' struggles, including a stock price that's less than half what it was earlier this year, likely weighed heavily on the company's board. In a news release, Henri de Castries, Stellantis’ senior independent director, pointed to divisions at the top of the company.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (63Dwl)

42 33 I did my part for the environment and traded in my 19 mpg Jeep for a 20 mpg Chevy Colorado trail boss
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The Chevy Colorado is a pretty good buy if you're looking for a Suburban Pickup.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (jFCkp)

43 Fire? What fire?

Posted by: Port of Miami at December 02, 2024 11:13 AM (Aqu9a)

44 This has never caused a problem in Europe... ever.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (ExV1e)

Well...

Posted by: French Revolution at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (HsOwE)

45 Remember when all the talk was about there wasn't enough of the natural minerals to make the batteries for all the cars? Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon.

Are they going to import African orphans to mine it?

Posted by: Oddbob at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (/y8xj)

46 People are saying the cyberpunk is ugly. To me it looks like someone designed it who played way too much halo, but not ugly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

As Razorfist pointed out, at least the CyberTronk doesn't look like every other blobby, piece of soap SUV/Crossover that's cranked out by the millions.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (IG4Id)

47 “Historic moment for Volkswagen: Automaker plans to close ‘at least’ 3 German plants and cut thousands of jobs” [CNN – 10/28/2024]

I wonder if this can also be tied to Gemany's extremely low (and still falling) birth rate. All those babies that weren't born are now not adults buying cars.

Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (GUOwU)

48 I still can’t believe that we ( the world) basically skipped over the Hybrid model straight to the EV model.

I have absolutely no problem with hybrids. It says a lot about the intelligence or ulterior motivations of the environmental leaders .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:15 AM (D6PGr)

49 California along with almost if not all deep blue states already has a state EV tax credit. Some cities and counties have their own as well. So it’s not really doing anything new. Excluding Tesla is. But whatever, if they want to kill the car maker that provides thousands of high paying jobs in the state, have at it. Only a matter of time before all production moves to Texas anyway.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:15 AM (Fj+kx)

50 Happy-ish Monday Morning …

Posted by: Adriane the Irreverent Pedantic Critic . . . at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (U/JWQ)

51 I have absolutely no problem with hybrids.

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They suck. I hate them all.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (sX1BW)

52 I have absolutely no problem with hybrids. It says a lot about the intelligence or ulterior motivations of the environmental leaders .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:15 AM (D6PGr)

Toyota has tried to ride this craziness out on hybrids. Smart.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (HsOwE)

53 People are saying the cyberpunk is ugly. To me it looks like someone designed it who played way too much halo, but not ugly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Eye of the beholder and all that, but I wonder if GM produced it and not Elon, whether people would still be unwilling to call it what it is, which is butt ugly. Compared to it, the Aztek was a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)

54 45 Remember when all the talk was about there wasn't enough of the natural minerals to make the batteries for all the cars? Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon.

Are they going to import African orphans to mine it?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (/y8xj)

Residential housing for homeless addicts paid for by their labor in the lithium mines. If a little tweaking helps production, fine.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 02, 2024 11:17 AM (7fVdQ)

55 Meanwhile, the Biden administration just announced that it is granting Rivian a $6 billion federal “loan” to re-start construction on its suspended new plant in Georgia.

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It's good to learn that the Executive branch has a license to print money, "the power of the purse," and the authority to pick winners and losers apparently.

Send another $150 billion to the Ukrainian oligarchs this month...

Make Checks, Balances, and Republics Great Again

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:17 AM (ZLe6e)

56 >>> As Razorfist pointed out, at least the CyberTronk doesn't look like every other blobby, piece of soap SUV/Crossover that's cranked out by the millions

I do admire that the same company that designed the Tesla, which had beautiful sleek feminine lines, also put out the Cybertruck, which is all masculine edges and blocky body shapes. Beauty and the Beast.

Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (wcIbG)

57 CyberTruck is out there. But Elon is out there. He’s the only guy who could have allowed that thing to be produced. Nothing wrong with taking chances.

Meanwhile 98% of crossovers and SuVs look exactly the same. Is that any better?

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (Fj+kx)

58 Elon Musk slams Keir Starmer saying UK has gone 'full Stalin' over farmer tax

Elon Musk has become a vocal critic of Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer and has now hit out at his inheritance tax raid on farmers.

PM Starmer appears to be a real douche bag among douche bags

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (RHGPo)

59 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y

Posted by: Stateless at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (jvJvP)

60 The EV bullshit just kills me. Remember when all the talk was about there wasn't enough of the natural minerals to make the batteries for all the cars?

Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon. I wonder what's next?
Posted by: Diogenes

Flash floods. Landslides. Then Blackrock buying everyone out.

I've seen this movie before.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (S838b)

61 Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon. I wonder what's next?
Posted by: Diogenes

Won't matter if either the EPA or Oregon's shithouse rat government forbids mining. Doesn't matter how much reform Trump manages with the former, because lawsuits will be dumped on them by the cargo ship.

If he can't get around the enviro-lawfare, es macht nichts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (IG4Id)

62 31
‘ I still say Maserati's are beautiful cars’

My Maserati does 185.

Posted by: Joe Walsh at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (jbnUc)

63 The Chevy Colorado is a pretty good buy if you're looking for a Suburban Pickup.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (jFCkp)

The trail boss has the 2.7 4 cylinder 8 speed turbo producing 305 HP. Me likely.

I just hope it doesn’t have the same problem as the similar engine in the Tacoma.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (D6PGr)

64 "Northvolt, the Swedish maker of battery cells for electric vehicles, said on Thursday it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the U.S."

I'm confused. Why is a Swedish company filing for U.S. bankruptcy?

Posted by: PaleRider at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (UKUm3)

65 Since when is Diablo even a series that has "Top Player"s?

Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (UnA8+)

66 Compared to it, the Aztek was a thing of beauty.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)

I think the lines are a lot better than the Aztek (not as ass heavy for one thing.)

I am just not a fan of sharp lines on a car. Like wanting to go out with prime Megyn Kelly- want to cut yourself on those cheek bones?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (HsOwE)

67 I think the Cybertruck looks like a cross between a Delorean and a rubix cube.

In other words.... Ugly.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (4XwPj)

68 Sounds like the Biden $6B loan and the Volkswagen $5B loans yo Rivian are a deliberate attempt to prop up Rivian as (fake) competition to Tesla (to spite Musk).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (LPS7w)

69 I have absolutely no problem with hybrids.

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They suck. I hate them all.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM

Dafuq?

Posted by: Diesel Locomotives at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (ZANHd)

70
Gotion is building a battery plant north of Big Rapids in God's country because of the huge aquifer and the demand for water in the production.

Makes no sense except ALL green battery investment is stolen taxpayer grift being laundered into Democrat pockets.

Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (j4U/Z)

71 People are saying the cyberpunk is ugly. To me it looks like someone designed it who played way too much halo, but not ugly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Elon Musk's Lego Truck?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (S838b)

72 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

1) He's crazy smart
2) His rep is now so stellar that he can hire the best to actually run his companies.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

73 The point of the loan isn't to build EV in Georgia. The point of the loan is to put money into Georgia.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (QnLNP)

74 EVs are turning out to be a niche product. So first mover advantage matters. Tesla benefits, everyone else not so much.

Posted by: Bigsmith at December 02, 2024 11:20 AM (1Au9i)

75 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y
Posted by: Stateless

Yuck.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)

76 They suck. I hate them all.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:16 AM (sX1BW)

Why if I may ask?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:20 AM (D6PGr)

77 I think the Cybertruck looks like a cross between a Delorean and a rubix cube.

In other words.... Ugly.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM

True, but it looked pretty good when Brandon Herrera mounted a .50 cal on it and made the world's most expensive technical.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 11:20 AM (ZANHd)

78 Gotion is building a battery plant north of Big Rapids in God's country because of the huge aquifer and the demand for water in the production.

Makes no sense except ALL green battery investment is stolen taxpayer grift being laundered into Democrat pockets.
Posted by: Auspex

Um, water & lithium batteries don't work well together.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:20 AM (S838b)

79 TheJag look slime a Panamera that got beaten with an ugly stick.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:21 AM (Fj+kx)

80 Notes aren’t with me.

Stellanis and the others inthat group plus Case, New Holland ,Peugeot and others are owned by the Angelli family, Turin, Italy.

Posted by: Braenard - some best friends are more important than others at December 02, 2024 11:21 AM (J5DyF)

81 73 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

1) He's crazy smart
2) His rep is now so stellar that he can hire the best to actually run his companies.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

Like, y'all know that Diablo is a point-and-click hack-and-slash, right?

Not a competitive strategy game?

It takes zero brainpower.

Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2024 11:21 AM (UnA8+)

82 No! That's not true! That's impossible! Nooooo!

Posted by: not Joe Xiden at December 02, 2024 11:21 AM (yOPBE)

83 EV car and battery companies losing their way along with the EV enablers (Goldman/Sach)...

Be still my heart.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (ifs1q)

84 I like the painted Cybertrucks more than the stainless steel but that’s just picking my poison.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (D6PGr)

85 Speaking of Jag. Have you all seen that Volvo ad? Kinda the anti gay Jaguar ad? It’s more like a short film as it’s 3:30 long. But damn!

It’s like Volvo said, yeah fuck that woke shit, we’re going back to the basics.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (Fj+kx)

86 47
‘ Gemany's extremely low (and still falling) birth rate’

Quick! Import more muzzies!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (jbnUc)

87 Finally!!!

Hubbymayhem is having an ultrasound to find out if he has a DVT/blood clot in his leg! It took them long enough.
Small, county hospital didn't have an ultrasound tech available since Thanksgiving. Today they are back in business!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (4XwPj)

88 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (MeG8a)

89 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

1) He's crazy smart
2) His rep is now so stellar that he can hire the best to actually run his companies.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

Like, y'all know that Diablo is a point-and-click hack-and-slash, right?

Not a competitive strategy game?

It takes zero brainpower.

The game is irrelevant to the question, which is how does he find the time to get good at it with his schedule.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (xCA6C)

90 Salary Sacrifice?"

Is that the new " Job Lock?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (ZLe6e)

91 86 I like the painted Cybertrucks more than the stainless steel but that’s just picking my poison.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (D6PGr)

I don’t think it’s paint. They're wrapped I believe. But yeah I totally agree. The black ones look kinda badass.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (Fj+kx)

92 >>> https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y

I keep wondering if the woke Jaguar ad was a troll to get us talking about their new car, because I would not care about them otherwise.

It's not hideous but it's not great. Like a b tier design for a car in a video game. Maybe trying to go head to head vs Elon in the "let's design weird cars that should be in video games but are now real life." Should have put the car in their stupid ad.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (wcIbG)

93 If he haas kept the price point at 50 I would own one. I like the bullet proofness.

Posted by: Braenard - some best friends are more important than others at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (J5DyF)

94 ‘ Gemany's extremely low (and still falling) birth rate’

Quick! Import more muzzies!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (jbnUc)

Anglea Merkel will bein DC hawking just this, well and her new memoir that says that muzzie problem in Germanyis Trump's fault. Not her's.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (CIS44)

95 It can be snack time at least

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (Pdbv+)

96 The EV "transition" (like a mentally-ill boy "transitioning" into a girl?") is dead and the EV market is dying. Good riddance. But expect big dead-cat-bounces and a very long and expensive death spiral. The setting on fire of $6B by the Biden "administration" for a fraudulent and corrupt Rivian "loan" is just one example. Hopefully Trump can unwind this travesty.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (iFTx/)

97 I have seen a high polish cybertruck but not a wrapped one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (HsOwE)

98 A fool and his money are soon parted, and there are a lot of credentialed fools who bought into the EV hype.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

In their defense, when every major government in the western world throws their weight behind an industry with tax incentives and rebates and energy credits etc, it's hard to see how even a dubious business plan could fail.
Governments can make money from nothing and hand it to them to stay afloat. Where's the downside?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 02, 2024 11:25 AM (FCbAQ)

99 I would not mind taking a cyber truck for a test drive..am curious to know how it looks on the inside and how it drives.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 02, 2024 11:25 AM (DJ7uY)

100 90 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (MeG8a)

I mean people who know how to drive won’t forget. But anyone born from now on, probably will never have to learn to drive.

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:25 AM (Fj+kx)

101 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (MeG8a)

He did predict along with others a decade ago just about where we would be today with AI. But I think ‘no one’ was just an exaggeration for effect.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:26 AM (D6PGr)

102 90 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.

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The date may be off, but he is probably right in the long run.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 02, 2024 11:26 AM (sX1BW)

103 I would not mind taking a cyber truck for a test drive..am curious to know how it looks on the inside and how it drives.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals

It's got a flat screen next to the driver's seat. Serves as the dashboard, I guess.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:26 AM (v6JzV)

104 Flash floods. Landslides. Then Blackrock buying everyone out.

I've seen this movie before.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (S838b)

No, it is Oregon. Massive forest fires wiping everything out.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:26 AM (D7oie)

105 Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 02, 2024 11:22 AM (4XwPj)

Sorry for the wait. That must be frustrating. May rough places be made smooth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (wdyQk)

106 Lithium in west NC, which is why they don't want people rebuilding after Helene. Mr Emhoff is on the board of the mining company IIRC

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (gfViB)

107 "Rivian continues to lose over $30,000 on every vehicle it sells, and with a negative gross profit margin, there is no sales volume that would be profitable."

Is that bad?

Should they have not done that?

Posted by: eleven at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (fV+MH)

108 Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:24 AM (Fj+kx)

Thanks. Yes wrapped not painted.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (D6PGr)

109 It’s like Volvo said, yeah fuck that woke shit, we’re going back to the basics.
Posted by: It is Go Time Donald
—-

It’s a beautiful commercial.

Posted by: Braenard - some best friends are more important than others at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (J5DyF)

110 Are they going to import African orphans to mine it?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (/y8xj)

They're already here.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (g8Ew8)

111 >>> The game is irrelevant to the question, which is how does he find the time to get good at it with his schedule.

He's been playing Diablo since college, on a recent Rogan podcast he said it was his way to unwind. He also said they've found that surgeons who game have like 20% more dexterity and a higher success rate in surgery. You'd think they would mandate it if it really was that big an edge.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (wcIbG)

112 How long before they simply declare their "Climate Emergency" and make EV purchase mandatory? Gov could even withhold payments from people's paychecks.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (LxER7)

- Petroleum powered vehicles cause unhealthy air.
- Unhealthy air causes illness.
- Illness increases the load on the NHS.
- Increasing funding for the NHS would take money away from higher priority items (replacing the British people with "migrants")

Consequently, you are either required to own an EV or choose to use our new "please kill me" service.

-- your UK government

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (ExV1e)

113 All EVs should come with an ICE back up.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (D6PGr)

114 My neighbor not too long ago asked me to move his car for the regular street cleaning while he was out of town. Gave me a key in advance. I got in, it's a stick shift. I had to give it a mental review but I remembered. I do confess to chirping the tires a bit coming out of 1st...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (MeG8a)

115 A fool and his money are soon parted, and there are a lot of credentialed fools who bought into the EV hype.

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Apparently, US taxpayers have been the biggest fools of all ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (hhdL4)

116 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:23 AM (MeG8a)

It'll be like that scene in Star Trek where Spock and Kirk go to gangland Chicago planet and Kirk has to figure out how to drive a 1920s-style car.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)

117 All EVs should come with an ICE back up.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM

*waves*

Posted by: Hybrids at December 02, 2024 11:29 AM (ZANHd)

118 74 The point of the loan isn't to build EV in Georgia. The point of the loan is to put money into Georgia.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:19 AM (QnLNP)
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How does that explain Volkswagen's motivation?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:29 AM (LPS7w)

119 All EVs should come with an ICE back up.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM (D6PGr)

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Or at least wind sails.

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:29 AM (hhdL4)

120 The EV bullshit just kills me. Remember when all the talk was about there wasn't enough of the natural minerals to make the batteries for all the cars? Then magically!!! Voila!!! Huge deposits were found in very blue Oregon. I wonder what's next?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2024 11:09 AM (W/lyH)

What's next? We'll start shipping weapons to Idaho so we can gain access to those minerals. -- Lindsey Graham

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:29 AM (ExV1e)

121 Elon Musk is predicting that by 2050 no one will know how to drive because they won't need to anymore.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Siri can't get a spoken sentence correct.
You have 25 yrs to get a car to handle every possible situation that it will encounter.

First order of business: Have the vehicle determine if that is a mannequin or a live human standing in the road.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:30 AM (S838b)

122 How does that explain Volkswagen's motivation?
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You could replace "Germany" for Volkswagen and be correct.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:30 AM (jFCkp)

123 Salary Sacrifice.

So if you lose your job (England is crashing) does the SS go away or do you still owe for the car.
(Not a serious question obviously)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2024 11:30 AM (D9YZG)

124 Sent my deposit, on waiting list for new Jaguar. You all will see my driving by, and admit it-you're jealous!

Posted by: The Grand Poof at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (nS6qG)

125 All EVs should come with an ICE back up.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:28 AM

*waves*
Posted by: Hybrids at December 02, 2024 11:29 AM (ZANHd)

Heh I guess I should said ‘ICE car’ in my snark.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (D6PGr)

126 Say often a Cybertruck looks like a 1930s military armor car, seen a couple around my neighborhood

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (Pdbv+)

127 I know I shared this bit last week, but when I visited the Phoenix area my Uber driver picked us up from the airport in a Tesla. At some point I asked him how he liked the car and he had a mixed experience with it. He liked it around town, but hated it for trips. He explained that he visited family about 350 miles away during the summer, and that because it was summer in Arizona (hence high use of air conditioning) that he had to charge the Tesla TWICE to cover the 350 miles.

Posted by: Crusader at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (TN0g+)

128 I'm not interested until these things can fly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (RIvkX)

129 These EV vehicles -at least the ones that look like "bad geometry" -besides frequently catching on fire, it seems.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (wdyQk)

130 U would not mind taking a cyber truck for a test drive..am curious to know how it looks on the inside and how it drives.
Posted by: IC

There is extremely poor visibility to the rear quarters, it relies on cameras. Also, there is very little cargo capacity. It will hit 90 mph in less than a block, however. It also has four wheel steering, which makes it squirrelly in a parking lot.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (QnLNP)

131 I'm not interested until these things can fly.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Can you imagine the chaos that would bring?

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)

132 At this point, all government money appears to be merely for the kickbacks and money laundering. Every bit of it. World-wide.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (D7oie)

133 96
‘that muzzie problem in Germanyis Trump's fault. Not her's.’

She’s brazen and her audience is stupid for buying that.
I don’t think she convinces many people of that and she goes down in history tied for first place as Germany’s worst chancellor.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (jbnUc)

134
Low wages was just one reason business moved out of the American Midwest and overseas; the UAW and allied state and federal alphabet agencies were attacking manufacturing relentlessly.

Robots, illegals, and the Chevron decision might make a difference but payoffs to Greens will still be demanded.

Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 11:33 AM (j4U/Z)

135 There is extremely poor visibility to the rear quarters, it relies on cameras. Also, there is very little cargo capacity. It will hit 90 mph in less than a block, however.

It also has four wheel steering, which makes it squirrelly in a parking lot.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Have fun on ice.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:33 AM (S838b)

136 Most recent one I saw was totally black, definitely looked like armored car

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (Pdbv+)

137 Plus Nissan. EU insane EV mandates, cheap Chicom EVs in Asian markets, and a general deer in the headlights management have roles here. There is talk Nissan will go bankrupt and go looking for governmental bailouts.

Is Nissan going out Business? (Chicom EVs play a role)
https://is.gd/iug6nU

Nissan shares slump after it announces 9,000 job cuts and a plan to slash production
https://is.gd/tLaIwk

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (vO42M)

138 She’s brazen and her audience is stupid for buying that.
I don’t think she convinces many people of that and she goes down in history tied for first place as Germany’s worst chancellor.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 11:32 AM (jbnUc)

Ja! Ja! Ja!

Posted by: Adolph at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (LxER7)

139 The Nazis sold Volkswagens in similar fashion, except you had to finish paying for the car before it was deliverable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (RIvkX)

140 Can you imagine the chaos that would bring?
Posted by: Bulg

It would really lower the Social Security budget!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (D9YZG)

141 I would not mind taking a cyber truck for a test drive..am curious to know how it looks on the inside and how it drives.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals

You think you hate it now, but wait until you drive it!

Posted by: Truckster car salesman at December 02, 2024 11:34 AM (Aqu9a)

142 Like, y'all know that Diablo is a point-and-click hack-and-slash, right?
Not a competitive strategy game?
It takes zero brainpower.
Posted by: XTC

That was always the best way to play D&D. Hack, slash, kill, sort treasure, add XPs, gain levels, new monsters, hack, slash, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2024 11:35 AM (KAi1n)

143 Meant that EV vehicles that look like bad geometry are ugly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2024 11:35 AM (wdyQk)

144 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (wcIbG)

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I suspect that he's already cloned himself multiple times.

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:35 AM (8ETWp)

145 There is talk Nissan will go bankrupt and go looking for governmental bailouts.

From which government?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)

146 :"For some inexplicable reason, struggling automaker Volkswagen is trying to throw Rivian a $5.8 billion lifeline."

The VW investment is more complicated than that. Only $1B is upfront and is structured as some kind of note. The remaining amounts are discretionary and not likely to ever happen. The deal includes IP and a 50% ownership stake.

I think this is mostly a PR stunt to keep regulators and activists off VW's back as the EV debacle winds down. VW Group is yuge (VW, Audi, Porsche, Lambo, and others) and very profitable. It can afford to pay some protection money.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

147 This has never caused a problem in Europe... ever.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM (ExV1e)

Well...
Posted by: French Revolution at December 02, 2024 11:14 AM (HsOwE)

Le sigh. The peasants have never gotten sarcasm. -- Marie Antoinette

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:36 AM (ExV1e)

148 tied for first place as Germany’s worst chancellor.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

No. Just stop.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2024 11:36 AM (KAi1n)

149 Plus Nissan. EU insane EV mandates, cheap Chicom EVs in Asian markets, and a general deer in the headlights management have roles here. There is talk Nissan will go bankrupt and go looking for governmental bailouts.

Is Nissan going out Business? (Chicom EVs play a role)
https://is.gd/iug6nU

Nissan shares slump after it announces 9,000 job cuts and a plan to slash production
https://is.gd/tLaIwk
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram

Saw a write up over the weekend.
Long answer: yes
Short answer: yes

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:36 AM (S838b)

150 99 I have seen a high polish cybertruck but not a wrapped one.

lech walenski on edibles?

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2024 11:36 AM (v3pYe)

151 IC,

Go over to Tucker Carlson's site. Elon loaned him a Cybertruck so he turned the local loggers loose with it. Surprisingly, they liked it. Wouldn't buy one because of range and performance in cold weather. But it could do everything their regular trucks could do.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2024 11:37 AM (gfViB)

152 Any company whose CEO can elude apprehension by hiding in an upright bass case deserves a bailout, imho. LOL

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2024 11:37 AM (MeG8a)

153 From which government?
Posted by: Archimedes

Elonmusk

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2024 11:37 AM (KAi1n)

154 Friend who let me drive his cybertruck had a car try to turn left from the right lane. The cybertruck climbed right over the hood of the sedan, tearing off most of the front end. The cyber truck did get one scratch in the quarter panel.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (QnLNP)

155 I have seen a high polish cybertruck but not a wrapped one.

lech walenski on edibles?
Posted by: anachronda

ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (S838b)

156 Our newest model, the Catamite, will be a killer in the youth market.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (paSBy)

157 I did some contract work for an electric vehicle charger manufacturer named EVBox -- they opened up a sizeable manufacturing plant in Libertyville, IL and even had Governor Flintstone show up at the ribbon cutting (JB showed up three years after they started operations).

In October, they announced they were going tits up. It was a Dutch (cheapskate) enterprise that burned through almost a billion Euros. Glad I flicked that booger when I did.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (YIxO9)

158 153 IC,

Go over to Tucker Carlson's site. Elon loaned him a Cybertruck so he turned the local loggers loose with it. Surprisingly, they liked it. Wouldn't buy one because of range and performance in cold weather. But it could do everything their regular trucks could do.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2024 11:37 AM (gfViB)

I will! Thanks.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (DJ7uY)

159 Wouldn't buy one because of range and performance in cold weather. But it could do everything their regular trucks could do.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

You have a funny definition of "everything".

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (KAi1n)

160 Muh Principulz. Muh norms~!

@DeItaone
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KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)

161 146 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (wcIbG)

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I suspect that he's already cloned himself multiple times.

they're not clones, they're just horcruxes.

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (v3pYe)

162 I'm not interested until these things can fly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (RIvkX)

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"Hey Elon, WTF is my jetpack?!?!?!"

/obligatory

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (t5Z/c)

163 Most of this stuff reminds me of the DeLorean. Do any DeLorean's still prowl America today?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (jFCkp)

164 late to the news this morning, but here's a question: Is one effect of Biden's pardon to allow or require Hunter to be forced to testify (in a civil or criminal suit NOT aimed at Hunter's specific crimes) without the ability to invoke the 5th Amendment?

Seems like that's a potential silver lining.

Posted by: LASue at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (lCppi)

165 161 Wouldn't buy one because of range and performance in cold weather. But it could do everything their regular trucks could do.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

You have a funny definition of "everything".
Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (KAi1n)

=======

My kids' toy trucks can do everything a real truck can do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

166 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Oh boy.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

167 But it could do everything their regular trucks could do.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

I watched most of that video.
The logger owned his own mill and did everything with the cybertruck for a week.
Even the price didn't bother him because he said he sees hundred thousand dollar work trucks all the time.

I wouldn't touch an EV here in the desert as noted above... it gets a tad warm here.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2024 11:40 AM (D9YZG)

168 late to the news this morning, but here's a question: Is one effect of Biden's pardon to allow or require Hunter to be forced to testify (in a civil or criminal suit NOT aimed at Hunter's specific crimes) without the ability to invoke the 5th Amendment?

Seems like that's a potential silver lining.

Given that the whole point of the pardon is to keep Hunter from testifying against dear old Dad, what do you think?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C)

169 Maybe we do need a nuclear war. It would relieve us of a lot of this bullshit.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2024 11:40 AM (g8Ew8)

170 Since when is Diablo even a series that has "Top Player"s?
Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (UnA8+)

Apparently, it has to do with how fast you can clear certain content. Musk is, or was, ranked #1. He streams himself playing Diablo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:40 AM (ExV1e)

171 2014 Hunter goes to "work" for Burisma.

2019 Democrats impeach Trump for looking into corruption in Ukraine.

2024 Joe gives Hunter a pardon for all federal crimes that extends back to 2014.

We are here.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (LkLld)

172 If I owned a cyber truck, I think I'd go with the "rust wrap" on it. Has that totally Mad Max look to it.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (Y1sOo)

173 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)

Joe should pardon Trump.

Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (Yj6Os)

174 Apparently Elon is one of the top Diablo players in the world. I don't know how he had time for everything he does. I'd love to job shadow him for a day just to see how he manages his crazy schedule.

Posted by: LizLem

Does cake girl know this?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (QnLNP)

175 Isn't there some sort of backstory with Nissan's CEO? Fleeing Japan in a box, or some such shit?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (Q4IgG)

176 What are the chances of the Trump Administration being able to block or reverse that 6 billion giveaway to Rivian?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (APlD6)

177 164 late to the news this morning, but here's a question: Is one effect of Biden's pardon to allow or require Hunter to be forced to testify (in a civil or criminal suit NOT aimed at Hunter's specific crimes) without the ability to invoke the 5th Amendment?

Seems like that's a potential silver lining.

the idiots on my facebook feed aren't worried about it. i pushed a little and the response was "he's already testified multiple times".

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2024 11:42 AM (v3pYe)

178 What are the chances of the Trump Administration being able to block or reverse that 6 billion giveaway to Rivian?

Depends on just how fast they can shovel the money out the door.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

179 >>> Rivian continues to lose over $30,000 on every vehicle it sells...

The answer is obvious - ICE vehicles must raise prices by at least $30,000 for Rivian to be competitive.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2024 11:42 AM (/lPRQ)

180 There is a need for small, light pickups that can carry gear and parts to and from worksites. CAFE has killed that market and what you get for a light truck now is larger than a 1970's F-150 and is a beast to drive.

Nissan makes a very nice light truck, and if the CAFE gets withdrawn, they are still in a position to go hog-wild.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)

181 173 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)

Joe should pardon Trump.
Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (Yj6Os)

I'm so old that I can remember when dems thought it was bad when prezzies acted like kings with unchecked power.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 02, 2024 11:43 AM (OA79/)

182 Our newest model, the Catamite, will be a killer in the youth market.
Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM

Super ghey.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 11:44 AM (ZANHd)

183 Most of this stuff reminds me of the DeLorean. Do any DeLorean's still prowl America today?
Posted by: Pudinhead

There is, or was, a company in Houston that was building them from the new old stock parts. Not sure if they are still building them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:44 AM (QnLNP)

184 But anyone born from now on, probably will never have to learn to drive.
Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:25 AM (Fj+kx)

Just hop in your JohnnyCab and be driven directly to the suicide chamber.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:44 AM (ExV1e)

185 How could smart people make such a disastrous economic and environmental blunder? Maybe they’re not so smart? Or maybe….they’re….evil?

Posted by: Eromero at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (jgmnb)

186 154 Friend who let me drive his cybertruck had a car try to turn left from the right lane. The cybertruck climbed right over the hood of the sedan, tearing off most of the front end. The cyber truck did get one scratch in the quarter panel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (QnLNP)
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Definitely armored car behavior.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (LPS7w)

187 Muh Principulz. Muh norms~!

@DeItaone
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KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)

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BREAKING: F. Joe Mugabe Pardons All Individuals for All Crimes Ever Committed in Washington DC -- Including Serial Treason, Murder, and Rape -- Excepting of course The J6 Insurrectionists. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (8ETWp)

188
I would say, "Die in a fire, EVs!"

But they are quite good at doing that all by themselves

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (da73/)

189 I don’t even know what Diablo is…. Cannot be as fun as super Mario or Mario-Kart

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (YobFY)

190 What we need is our own Kill Dozers.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (jFCkp)

191 I'm not interested until these things can fly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 11:31 AM (RIvkX)

Most of this stuff reminds me of the DeLorean. Do any DeLorean's still prowl America today?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (jFCkp)

Marty McFly thinks there's a connection here somewhere...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 02, 2024 11:45 AM (FCbAQ)

192 Most of this stuff reminds me of the DeLorean. Do any DeLorean's still prowl America today?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM

My godfather has one. Had an extra for parts, but I think he sold it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 11:46 AM (ZANHd)

193 "Hey Elon, WTF is my jetpack?!?!?!"

/obligatory
Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (t5Z/c)

You want to talk to Gravity, ltd, not Tesla

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:46 AM (D7oie)

194 BREAKING: F. Joe Mugabe Pardons All Individuals for All Crimes Ever Committed in Washington DC -- Including Serial Treason, Murder, and Rape -- Excepting of course The J6 Insurrectionists. Developing ...
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Can he pardon the DoJ and DC Court District as well?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:46 AM (jFCkp)

195 Most of this stuff reminds me of the DeLorean. Do any DeLorean's still prowl America today?
Posted by: Pudinhead

There is, or was, a company in Houston that was building them from the new old stock parts. Not sure if they are still building them.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:44 AM (QnLNP)
__________

There are still a few around. I see one every now and again. My reaction is always the same: (1) the thing is fucking tiny! And (2) how did my very young self ever think that goofy looking cartoon was totes cool?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (iFTx/)

196 Why not just build a new VW Van that is air cooled and runs on petroleum?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (jFCkp)

I don't see a revival in air-cooled engines as long as we are running at current power levels with current emissions and fuel economy laws. Too hard to maintain engine temperature in the sweet spot for low emissions and good economy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (APlD6)

197 129 These EV vehicles -at least the ones that look like "bad geometry" -besides frequently catching on fire, it seems.

saw two vehicle fires on my way home during thanksgiving. one was a jeep on fire on that new i-15 bridge in arizona. the other was a semi trailer just east of baker.

don't know whether the jeep was electric, but i have my suspicions about the semi hauling batteries.

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (v3pYe)

198 I have not yet begun to pardon!

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (Aqu9a)

199 So Mophead actually said Brandon will issue more pardons?? I thought she’d gone into hiding after Peter Doocey made her cry

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (YobFY)

200 198 I have not yet begun to pardon!
Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (Aqu9a)

=======

I mostly can't wait for late 2028 when the political commentariat of America once again decides that pardons are unconstitutional

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

201 "I mean people who know how to drive won’t forget. But anyone born from now on, probably will never have to learn to drive.
Posted by: It is Go Time Donald"

Hard to fathom but maybe true. (My sons know nothing more about cars than how to turn it on and no interest learning.) Imagine all the car adventures and harrowing tales that won't be had by teenagers and young adults.

Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (GUOwU)

202
The giveaways aren't just bribes and money laundering, they're the setup for financial collapse.

Midterm Democrat majority is their only objective at this point.

Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (j4U/Z)

203 180 A friend had a courier outfit. He asked me if I wanted to drive a set route on a 90 day contact, and I agreed. His truck of choice for his "fleet" of six were stripped down Nissans, mid 90s. He also had about a dozen contract drivers whose own trucks were mostly Nissans. The boss was getting about 400K out of those little beauties without much more than lube, oil, and brake pads. Lots of highway driving, but still.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

204 I've seen a couple of the Tesla "trucks"? They look like something out of a made-for-TV sci-fi movie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (WPL6O)

205 But anyone born from now on, probably will never have to learn to drive.
Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at December 02, 2024 11:25 AM (Fj+kx)

Just hop in your JohnnyCab and be driven directly to the suicide chamber.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:44 AM (ExV1e)

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Flew in to Phoenix airport last month and saw several Waymo automated self-driving taxi cars picking up passengers.

Being a control freak, I would have some reservations ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (sFNa8)

206 There is talk Nissan will go bankrupt and go looking for governmental bailouts.

From which government?
Posted by: Archimedes

One report I read over the weekend stated Japan and US governments. Also Nissan is showing off some leg and goatse in Honda's direction.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (vO42M)

207 Anytime any reporter asks pdt a question, he should put his hand up to his ear and say "Pardon me?"

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (OA79/)

208 Someone who went to high school with Kash Patel told me he regularly had big parties when his parents went out of town. Patel's family had a big dedicated prayer room in the house, and two boys bragged they had sex with girls in the prayer room during a party.

This is a very…

— Jacqueline Sweet (@JSweetLI) December 1, 2024

Fun!

If this is the best they’ve got on Patel, I like his chances.

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

209 @198 Have has the FTX crypto odd couple been pardoned yet? Has Bankman been Freed?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:50 AM (LPS7w)

210
What we need is our own Kill Dozers.
Posted by: Pudinhead

"Call me!"

-- zombie Rachel Corrie

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 11:50 AM (da73/)

211 >>> 111
==
He's been playing Diablo since college, on a recent Rogan podcast he said it was his way to unwind. He also said they've found that surgeons who game have like 20% more dexterity and a higher success rate in surgery. You'd think they would mandate it if it really was that big an edge.
Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (wcIbG)

Who would require it, the AMA? the licensing boards? You mean the same groups who wanted docs' medical licenses revoked for offering 'horse paste' or trying anything other than ventilators, but also have been approving 'transing' Mengele docs for *how* many decades?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 02, 2024 11:50 AM (KcwUg)

212 How could smart people make such a disastrous economic and environmental blunder? Maybe they’re not so smart? Or maybe….they’re….evil?
Posted by: Eromero

The Initiates of neo-marxism are the programmed footsoldiers and True Believers. The Acolytes are the programmers who half-heartedly believe. The Adepts are sociopaths who believe in nothing but power. The Inner Circle are evil.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:50 AM (IG4Id)

213 Why not just build a new VW Van that is air cooled and runs on petroleum?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 02, 2024 11:08 AM (jFCkp)

I don't see a revival in air-cooled engines as long as we are running at current power levels with current emissions and fuel economy laws. Too hard to maintain engine temperature in the sweet spot for low emissions and good economy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 11:47 AM (APlD6)
________

"Fuck you!"

-- Porsche 993s

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 11:51 AM (iFTx/)

214 That was Tucker's neighbor's assessment, not mine. There are two videos with it. Having known some old loggers, I found it entertaining. It was interesting that they all figured out the controls pretty quickly. And it was fun to see it in the mud. They neighbor took it up over 100mph.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2024 11:51 AM (gfViB)

215 Hard to fathom but maybe true. (My sons know nothing more about cars than how to turn it on and no interest learning.) Imagine all the car adventures and harrowing tales that won't be had by teenagers and young adults.
Posted by: Ripley

Wow, that's sad. My son couldn't wait to get his license.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:51 AM (v6JzV)

216 I am still bothered by how un-futuristic the Johnny Car was in Total Recall.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:51 AM (LPS7w)

217 Does cake girl know this?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:41 AM (QnLNP)

It wouldn't matter. Cake Girl loves Ryan with all her heart.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 02, 2024 11:51 AM (ExV1e)

218 The boss was getting about 400K out of those little beauties without much more than lube, oil, and brake pads. Lots of highway driving, but still.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

Nissan sold a lot of pickups to South American countries for police and military vehicles. Rough work, cheap maintenance and built for "machismo"
I think the Toyota Hi-Lux is also taking that market. The Nissans look nicer though.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (D7oie)

219 Blah Blah says EV's saved us so much money and tax credits from the government that now we have more money to use for our cruise to Alaska this month as well as a new large screen TV for our RV for when we winter in Florida at our vacation home in Key West. Being on a fixed income every little bit helps. Thanks Joe Biden!

Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Lifelong democrats and moochers at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (Y5VD5)

220 EV Car Sacrifice. What a notion. I wonder if that's how the Aztecs pushed it?

"Sure, you've put in effort and love in raising your children, but is the fate of the planet really worth your selfishly holding onto all four of your kids? Think of the community! By handing just one of your progeny over to the Sun God, you're helping ensure the longevity of us all!"

Posted by: red speck at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (0Id0S)

221 Someone who went to high school with Kash Patel told me he regularly had big parties when his parents went out of town. Patel's family had a big dedicated prayer room in the house, and two boys bragged they had sex with girls in the prayer room during a party.

This is a very…

— Jacqueline Sweet (@JSweetLI) December 1, 2024

Fun!

If this is the best they’ve got on Patel, I like his chances.
Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)
_____

Yea, this seems like a pretty boring HS party

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

222 Coworker of mine owned a Tesla. Typical NoVA type guy. He was bragging about how he could win a race against my car.

I said "OK - let's race to Miami."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (3j71j)

223 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y
Posted by: Stateless at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (jvJvP)

That thing looks like a player token for a gay Monopoly board.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 11:53 AM (APlD6)

224 Given the increasing automobile manufacturing instability due to Western government fuckery with EV mandates and subsidies, and the Chicom's cheering all this on it seems that a major consideration when buying a car, new or used, is if that corporation is going to be in business in 5 years.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 11:53 AM (vO42M)

225 "Someone who went to high school with Kash Patel..."

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

name?....they got a name?

Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:54 AM (Yj6Os)

226 Rivian?
lol piece of shit

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 11:54 AM (v0R5T)

227 "Someone who went to high school with Kash Patel..."

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

name?....they got a name?
Posted by: BignJames

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt IV

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:55 AM (v6JzV)

228 Its a shame about Nissan. I have two of them. Great trucks when they use fuel instead of unicorn darts.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:55 AM (T70K3)

229 225 "Someone who went to high school with Kash Patel..."

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)

name?....they got a name?
Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 11:54 AM (Yj6Os)

Arch Stanton

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 02, 2024 11:55 AM (LxER7)

230 @223 I can't imagine Richard Simmons driving that, so I say it's not gay enough.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 02, 2024 11:55 AM (LPS7w)

231 VW air-cooled anything. I messed around with type one beetles for a long time, had a couple buses and a couple KGs. Another fault is once the rust monster hits the heater boxes it sure gets cold. Made you appreciate stuff like the little fan blowing on the windshield and the stick on defroster you plugged into the lighter. Or really be thankful for a gas heater.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (gm9Sb)

232 A friend had a courier outfit. He asked me if I wanted to drive a set route on a 90 day contact, and I agreed. His truck of choice for his "fleet" of six were stripped down Nissans, mid 90s. He also had about a dozen contract drivers whose own trucks were mostly Nissans. The boss was getting about 400K out of those little beauties without much more than lube, oil, and brake pads. Lots of highway driving, but still.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

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Good to know; I drive 85,000 miles annually as an independent contract courier using my own vehicle (so get to deduct the miles and have a low tax bill).

I've had two very good relatively low maintenance Gen 2 Priuses (bought used with less than 200,000 miles on them; got 465,000 miles out of one and approaching 400,000 on another (getting between 40 and 50 MPG still).

However, I've also purchased two lemons that didn't last long (blown head gaskets) -- and they've all burned through a quart of oil weekly (after 1700 miles).

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (8ETWp)

233 Rivian should go the way of the Reliant Robin.

Posted by: red speck at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (0Id0S)

234 Today is the second of December and I will no longer be committing crimes starting now.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (u73oe)

235 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (v0R5T)

236 Nissan sold a lot of pickups to South American countries for police and military vehicles. Rough work, cheap maintenance and built for "machismo"
I think the Toyota Hi-Lux is also taking that market. The Nissans look nicer though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (D7oie)

Then I'm choosing Nissan. When the shooting starts, I want to be driving in style.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2024 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)

237 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?
Posted by: wth

Commerce Clause, Duh.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 11:57 AM (v6JzV)

238 Wait. Ok, starting now.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 02, 2024 11:58 AM (u73oe)

239 The Initiates of neo-marxism are the programmed footsoldiers and True Believers. The Acolytes are the programmers who half-heartedly believe. The Adepts are sociopaths who believe in nothing but power. The Inner Circle are evil.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:50 AM
On the money.

Posted by: Eromero at December 02, 2024 11:58 AM (jgmnb)

240 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y
Posted by: Stateless at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (jvJvP)

That thing looks like a player token for a gay Monopoly board.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I like the color.

Posted by: Mayo Pete at December 02, 2024 11:58 AM (v0R5T)

241
"For some inexplicable reason, struggling automaker Volkswagen is trying to throw Rivian a $5.8 billion lifeline."

We're helping them study to pass their vehicle emissions' tests!

-- VW ("Hard wired emissions' test results? What hard wired emissions' test results?")

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (da73/)

242 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y
Posted by: Stateless at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM (jvJvP)

That thing looks like a player token for a gay Monopoly board.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 11:53 AM (APlD6)

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Subaru hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (8ETWp)

243 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?

****

Some here can probably help you, but don't count on the ones who confuse the role of the DEA with that of the FDA.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (Y1sOo)

244 235 >>>I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?

It's right between the section where we douse Ukrainian oligarchs with $billions we don't have -- with no expectation of results of any kind -- and the part where a senile and corrupt president can grant immunity from prosecution for himself and family for anything from cocaine possession to treason.

Posted by: red speck at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (0Id0S)

245 173 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)
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Joe has decided to lean in.

Posted by: WisRich at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

246 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?
Posted by: wth

Among other things. I was expressing this at a thanksgiving party. Elections should not be that consequential. I and others have lost careers because of presidential elections.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (T70K3)

247 245 173 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)
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Joe has decided to lean in.
Posted by: WisRich at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

=======

"Joe?"
-WH staff, using the autopen

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)

248 Wait. Ok, starting now.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 02, 2024 11:58 AM (u73oe)
.......

Take your time. No rush, bro.

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (v0R5T)

249 Carlos Tavares is out as CEO of Stellantis, capping an almost four-year run as head of the company that owns Jeep, Ram, Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat.

Stellantis' struggles, including a stock price that's less than half what it was earlier this year, likely weighed heavily on the company's board.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2024 11:12 AM

Good fucking riddance.

Stellantis' struggles are a LOT more than just stock price. Tavares spent his entire time as CEO dismantling North America operations. Moving production to Mexico, closing North America plants, pushing out thousands of direct North America engineers (through either voluntary separations, retirements or layoffs) and replacing them with cheap "engineers" in India and Mexico. I was laid off, but went back contract. 90% of my product development department is now cheap hires remote working in India.

And he also changed entire product line from ICE to EVs. EVs with massive quality issues that no one wants to buy.

I'm hoping Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge-Ram brands are sold to someone in North America. Stellantis brand reputation is garbage. FCA-PSA merger needs to be undone.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (P5BPp)

250 Lithium in west NC, which is why they don't want people rebuilding after Helene. Mr Emhoff is on the board of the mining company IIRC
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2024 11:27 AM (gfViB)

Surface or underground mining of lithium from pegmatites will likely never be competitive with extraction of the metal from formation brines in deeply-buried salty aquifers (essentially fossil oceans).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (APlD6)

251 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)
---------------

Joe has decided to lean in.
Posted by: WisRich at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM

Hell, why not? They've quadrupled down on everything so far. I would honestly not be surprised if he pardoned himself. Because, FU, America...what are you going to do about it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)

252 Toyotas are the truck of choice when you need a "technical" mounted with a DSHK MG and a couple of true believers riding in the back.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (gm9Sb)

253
That thing looks like a player token for a gay Monopoly board.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Where's the yellow floatie around its amidships?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (da73/)

254 > "Joe?"
-WH staff, using the autopen
-------
This

Literally from day one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (Q4IgG)

255 251
Hell, why not? They've quadrupled down on everything so far. I would honestly not be surprised if he pardoned himself. Because, FU, America...what are you going to do about it?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)

=======

"It is perfectly justified for Biden to pardon himself because we talked about Trump pardoning himself 4 years ago."
-DU, 85.34% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

256 >>> 254 > "Joe?"
-WH staff, using the autopen
-------
This

Literally from day one.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2024 12:01 PM (Q4IgG)

What am I signing?

Posted by: Brandon at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (KcwUg)

257 The $ pi**ed away by the Federal executive branch, just the current administration alone (not considering O&Joe's past two administrations) for EV & ZEV stuff must be unimaginable.

Mostly only words at this point in time, but maybe that's for the best for the gas and hybrid vehicle powered industry and its workers.

>GSA announces new EV charging product achieves FedRAMP authorization, April 01, 2024

>GSA, FedFleet 2025

>National news, Oct. 30, 2024, U.S. Postal Service Headquarters Showcases New Next Generation Delivery Vehicle

In part, "WASHINGTON — The U.S. Postal Service is proud to highlight its new zero-emission electric Next Generation Delivery Vehicle (NGDV) in front of the organization’s headquarters at L’Enfant Plaza."

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (NFX2v)

258 Always assumed that Musk’s favorite all time movie was Total Recall.

It’s like he wrote it.

Mars
Brain Implants
Self Driving Cars
Boring Machines /Tunneling
Hot chicks

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (D6PGr)

259 "As Razorfist pointed out, at least the CyberTronk doesn't look like every other blobby, piece of soap SUV/Crossover that's cranked out by the millions."

I'll gladly drive a blobby V6 ICE Lexus RX and just snicker as the odomoter goes by 400K.

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (SAnV7)

260 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?

****

Some here can probably help you, but don't count on the ones who confuse the role of the DEA with that of the FDA.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (Y1sOo)

You still strumming that banjo? I already heard the tune in the MR today

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (sBt/s)

261
Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

Nautilus car

https://t.ly/ltkmH

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2024 12:02 PM (63Dwl)

262 The battery factory grift is almost as obvious as the great monorail grift*. Except with a monorail you get a way to move people in a line. The batteries don't come with a charge. You need fill them up like an old school gas tank, very very expensive gas tank. A $10,000 gallon gas tank. $10,000 could get me 100,000 miles at $3.00 / gallon. That is a lot of gas to piss away on the front end. That kind of sunk cost that battery better get me a million miles in life...
... They won't last even 100,000 miles ?!

*Simpsons

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2024 12:03 PM (/lPRQ)

263 204 I've seen a couple of the Tesla "trucks"? They look like something out of a made-for-TV sci-fi movie.

saw a note somewhere recently that raccoons keep trying to break into cybertrucks, mistaking them for dumpsters.

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2024 12:04 PM (v3pYe)

264 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.
......

No wonder they didn't put it in the commercial.

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:04 PM (v0R5T)

265
Carlos Tavares is out as CEO of Stellantis

Could not cut it in either the music business or the auto business, huh, Carlos?

Have you considered opportunities in the sanitation engineering field?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 12:04 PM (da73/)

266 Isn't Rivian the name dreamed up by a Pharma company for some kinda AIDS medicine?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

267 KARINE JEAN PIERRE SAYS BIDEN WILL ISSUE MORE PARDONS AND ISN’T STOPPING WITH HUNTER: FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 11:39 AM (IG4Id)
---------------

Joe has decided to lean in.
Posted by: WisRich at December 02, 2024 11:59 AM (G0vdT)

=======

"Joe?"
-WH staff, using the autopen
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
_______

Meh. I don't really care about Joey's pardons. I knew he would pardon Hunter, I knew it 100%. So no surprise. The only slight surprise is that he did it now, rather than literally on the way out of the WH.

Every Democrap president ends up pardoning a gaggle of degenerate criminals and scumbucket donors and sugar daddies. It's sleezy and corrupt as fuck. But I can't really get excited about this. We should keep our eyes on the prize: Trump taking office.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

268 Carlos Tavares is out as CEO of Stellantis, capping an almost four-year run as head of the company that owns Jeep, Ram, Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat.
Stellantis' struggles, including a stock price that's less than half what it was earlier this year, likely weighed heavily on the company's board.

Heaven must be missin' an angel
Missin' one angel, child, 'cause you're here with me right now
(Your love is heavenly, baby
Heavenly to me, baby)...

Posted by: Tavares at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (Y5VD5)

269 tellantis' struggles are a LOT more than just stock price. Tavares spent his entire time as CEO dismantling North America operations. Moving production to Mexico, closing North America plants, pushing out thousands of direct North America engineers (through either voluntary separations, retirements or layoffs) and replacing them with cheap "engineers" in India and Mexico. I was laid off, but went back contract. 90% of my product development department is now cheap hires remote working in India.

And he also changed entire product line from ICE to EVs. EVs with massive quality issues that no one wants to buy.

I'm hoping Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge-Ram brands are sold to someone in North America. Stellantis brand reputation is garbage. FCA-PSA merger needs to be undone.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton

I bought a new car in September and Chrysler/Jeep was throwing significant money around to buy them. Knowing that Stellantis had been starving Chrysler/Jeep for years and the consequences of that to product quality I gave them a hard pass. Right now it seems the only cars to buy at this time are from Toyota and Honda.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (vO42M)

270 Meanwhile, here's a picture on X of Jaguar's new gay mobile.

https://tinyurl.com/mrypyv2y
Posted by: Stateless at December 02, 2024 11:18 AM

Love it!

Posted by: Gary and Ace at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (ZANHd)

271 Kalifornia is run by a congress of infantile idiots hell-bent on turning this state into North Korea. It's like living in Bizzaro world. And that so many folks here are looking forward to the trip is amazing.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 02, 2024 12:06 PM (SSBCb)

272 237 I can't find the part of the constitution where the government is in the automobile business.
Can somebody help me out?
Posted by: wth

Commerce Clause, Duh.
Posted by: Bulg
---
Helping to keep:
GSA, Government Services Administration
Department of Energy
USPS
etc.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow at December 02, 2024 12:06 PM (NFX2v)

273 Always assumed that Musk’s favorite all time movie was Total Recall.

It’s like he wrote it.

Mars
Brain Implants
Self Driving Cars
Boring Machines /Tunneling
Hot chicks
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
......

with three bewbs

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:06 PM (v0R5T)

274
What does KJP do after Biden? Who could she work for? Maybe a Joe Izuzu comic liar gig?

Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM (j4U/Z)

275 267 Meh. I don't really care about Joey's pardons. I knew he would pardon Hunter, I knew it 100%. So no surprise. The only slight surprise is that he did it now, rather than literally on the way out of the WH.

Every Democrap president ends up pardoning a gaggle of degenerate criminals and scumbucket donors and sugar daddies. It's sleezy and corrupt as fuck. But I can't really get excited about this. We should keep our eyes on the prize: Trump taking office.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

=======

Outrage over pardons is generally stupid. It's a plenary power that the president has. He uses it politically. Whatever.

The only funny thing about this instance is Joe's repeated insistence that he wouldn't do it. It takes an esoteric, inside-Baseball issue and gives it this wonderful and easy-to-digest veneer that even marginally political people can latch onto.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

276 What does KJP do after Biden? Who could she work for? Maybe a Joe Izuzu comic liar gig?
Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM

MSM or Kennedy School of Government.

The left takes care of its own.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:08 PM (ZANHd)

277 Isn't Rivian the name dreamed up by a Pharma company for some kinda AIDS medicine?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door
......

ask your doctor if Rivian is right for you.

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:08 PM (v0R5T)

278
I like the color.
Posted by: Mayo Pete

"I want your DOR, Mayo-naise!"

-- DI Foley

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 12:08 PM (da73/)

279 251
‘ Because, FU, America...what are you going to do about it?’

Decide that pardon is invalid, arrest him anyway and store him at G’tmo while endless suits and appeals are ruled upon.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2024 12:08 PM (jbnUc)

280 30 Snow is like a one-night stand: you don't know how many inches you'll get, or how long it will last.
Posted by: JQ at December 02, 2024 04:43 AM (YoCnN)

Batmobile >>> Gay mobile

Jaguar-driving Batman: "Hey, Robin, ever see a grown man naked"?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 02, 2024 12:09 PM (SSBCb)

281 The last presidential pardon I remember causing a stir was Clinton's pardon of Mark Rich.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 12:09 PM (v6JzV)

282 Every Democrap president ends up pardoning a gaggle of degenerate criminals and scumbucket donors and sugar daddies. It's sleezy and corrupt as fuck. But I can't really get excited about this. We should keep our eyes on the prize: Trump taking office.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

=======

Outrage over pardons is generally stupid. It's a plenary power that the president has. He uses it politically. Whatever.

The only funny thing about this instance is Joe's repeated insistence that he wouldn't do it. It takes an esoteric, inside-Baseball issue and gives it this wonderful and easy-to-digest veneer that even marginally political people can latch onto.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
________

True, but I think 99% of people thought the same thing I did: Joey was always -- always -- gonna pardon Hunter, and all talk to the contrary was pure lies. If this pardon does cause some pain for Democraps over the next few weeks, though, I'll be happy about that.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (iFTx/)

283 My only question about the pardon is the nature of its sweeping dictate. Essentially: All crimes known and unknown.

I think it's the same tactic that Ford took pardoning Nixon, but it still leaves the question of whether that's a constitutional way to do it.

More of an academic question than a practical one, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

284 The only interesting thing about *biden's pardon is the timing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (Q4IgG)

285 Crap paste/copy fail. This pad sucks.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (SSBCb)

286 The last presidential pardon I remember causing a stir was Clinton's pardon of Mark Rich.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 12:09 PM

And a handful of Puerto Rican terrorists.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (ZANHd)

287 A nearly $6 billion federal loan will help electric-vehicle manufacturer Rivian restart construction of a $5 billion vehicle and battery plant near Covington, U.S. Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., announced Tuesday.

———

I remember when Lee Iacocca had to go to Congress to beg them for a loan to keep Chrysler afloat. Now they just hand out billions of dollars like candy at Halloween.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (mdi0h)

288 But I can't really get excited about this. We should keep our eyes on the prize: Trump taking office.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

I don't think it's a matter of excitement as in most of us expected it. This is the gravy on top that has completely drenched the NeverTrumpers and other Beltway Bootlicks making them look like the fools they are.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2024 12:11 PM (IG4Id)

289 Friend who let me drive his cybertruck had a car try to turn left from the right lane. The cybertruck climbed right over the hood of the sedan, tearing off most of the front end. The cyber truck did get one scratch in the quarter panel.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2024 11:38 AM (QnLNP)
----

Definitely armored car behavior.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
==

Wonder how it did in the Bridge Abutment Test?

Truck didn't even get scratch, but the driver was splattered like a bug inside the windshield.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (/lPRQ)

290 Have any Republican senators raised an eyebrow over the Hunter pardon?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (kTd/k)

291 And the $6 billion for a failed auto business is just to Keep Ossoff in office. A weak candidate needing graft: that's the Dems.

Posted by: PJ at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (RRCAT)

292 The only funny thing about this instance is Joe's repeated insistence that he wouldn't do it. It takes an esoteric, inside-Baseball issue and gives it this wonderful and easy-to-digest veneer that even marginally political people can latch onto.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
====

It merely cements his legacy and reputation as inveterate liar.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (RIvkX)

293 282 True, but I think 99% of people thought the same thing I did: Joey was always -- always -- gonna pardon Hunter, and all talk to the contrary was pure lies. If this pardon does cause some pain for Democraps over the next few weeks, though, I'll be happy about that.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (iFTx/)

=======

It's a bit of narrative that will feed rhetoric that will be effective for a little bit.

In terms of political narratives outside of election season, that's pretty good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

294 The only interesting thing about *biden's pardon is the timing. Posted by: Martini Farmer

Over the next few weeks Hunter was set to be sentenced on the gun and tax convictions. This had to be done now so Hunter can skip all that.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (vO42M)

295 Buck seems to miss that there's not actually supposed to be an EV transition. The transition is intended to be to "15 minute cities". So by that metric everything is working perfectly for the globalist communists.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (2ocoG)

296 Have any Republican senators raised an eyebrow over the Hunter pardon?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM

Surely you jest.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (ZANHd)

297 292 It merely cements his legacy and reputation as inveterate liar.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (RIvkX)

=======

"He only did it because Trump is so mean!"
-DU, 100% probability (they said it for sooth)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

298 287 A nearly $6 billion federal loan will help electric-vehicle manufacturer Rivian restart construction of a $5 billion vehicle and battery plant near Covington, U.S. Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., announced Tuesday.

———

I remember when Lee Iacocca had to go to Congress to beg them for a loan to keep Chrysler afloat. Now they just hand out billions of dollars like candy at Halloween.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 02, 2024 12:10 PM (mdi0h)

Used to be there was no to big to fail, bankruptcy was the solution, and depending on circumstances, assets sold to folks who could use them better.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (SSBCb)

299 ask your doctor if Rivian is right for you.
Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:08 PM (v0R5T)

Don't take Rivian if you are allergic to Rivian.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (ufFY8)

300 It merely cements his legacy and reputation as inveterate liar. Posted by: San Franpsycho

Biden's legacy will be giving ice cream a bad reputation.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (vO42M)

301 It sure is hilarious to listen to audio of KJP assuring everyone that Joe would never pardon Hunter….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (YobFY)

302 Where's the yellow floatie around its amidships?

An Amber Heard floatie?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (PVB0O)

303 The only funny thing about this instance is Joe's repeated insistence that he wouldn't do it. It takes an esoteric, inside-Baseball issue and gives it this wonderful and easy-to-digest veneer that even marginally political people can latch onto.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
====

It merely cements his legacy and reputation as inveterate liar.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2024 12:12 PM (RIvkX)

False! I do too have a backbone.

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at December 02, 2024 12:13 PM (Aqu9a)

304 Government mandated cars will only be able to receive NPR on thier radios.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel, CiceroKaboom Kids at December 02, 2024 12:14 PM (hirWM)

305 Question: if one is pardoned... can they be compelled to testify against their co-conspirators???? If so, Biden needs to pardon his whole family down to the grandchildren...

Posted by: Wondering if... at December 02, 2024 12:14 PM (EY4oe)

306 Has David French the Apostate,Servant of Satan, written a column in praise of the Hunter pardon.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 02, 2024 12:14 PM (kTd/k)

307 298 287 Always remember Iacocca presented the Big Check back to the gubbmint, paid in full.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2024 12:15 PM (gm9Sb)

308
This is the baby batter~~gravy~~ on top that has completely drenched the NeverTrumpers and other Beltway Bootlicks making them look like the fools they are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Fixed

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2024 12:15 PM (da73/)

309 I see that in all the pictures the media are using of little Hunter, he has an American Flag on his jacket. And in America, it's OK to burn the flag.
Anyone know what his suits are made of?

asking for a friend...

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2024 12:15 PM (W/lyH)

310 Everyone...with a brain...knew Joe was lying the instant he said he wouldn't pardon Hunter.

Posted by: BignJames at December 02, 2024 12:15 PM (Yj6Os)

311 Government mandated cars will only be able to receive NPR on thier radios.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel

Then there's going to be a lot of folks falling asleep at the wheel.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2024 12:15 PM (v6JzV)

312 Has David French the Apostate,Servant of Satan, written a column in praise of the Hunter pardon.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 02, 2024 12:14 PM (kTd/k)

Why pardoning Hunter was the purely Christian thing to do (plus Trump is a poopyhead)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 12:16 PM (YobFY)

313 Hunter may be pardoned but old Joe ain’t.

Retribution.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 02, 2024 12:16 PM (mdi0h)

314 Nissan hasn't made an exciting or relevant vehicle in over twenty years.

The will not be missed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 02, 2024 12:16 PM (XV/Pl)

315 The love of a father.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 02, 2024 12:16 PM (kTd/k)

316 Interesting further fallout from the Joe Rogan/Marc Andreeson interview. Andreeson says "dozens" of tech people have been debanked (kicked out of the banking system entirely) for the crime of being anti-Biden policies.

Regulators require it. There is no way to fight it. No court to run to. No law permitting it or disallowing it.

https://tinyurl.com/b4anysss

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (lVdyj)

317 Nood. Hunter pardon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (ZANHd)

318 nood Hunter Biden

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (DJ7uY)

319 Apparently people are saying Stellantis has maybe 12-14 months of cash to keep going.

After wanting to see DEIsney fail good and hard, automakers that are gung-ho EV grifters are next on my list.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (ufFY8)

320 312 Why pardoning Hunter was the purely Christian thing to do (plus Trump is a poopyhead)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 12:16 PM (YobFY)

========

"Hunter apologized for his crimes, and it was obvious that Trump is filling the administration with loyalists who will do his bidding instead of being the fourth, unelected branch of government that does not respond to the will of the people, so pardoning Hunter was the only moral thing to do. That Joe pardoned Hunter just makes Trump and, in particular his supporters who won't apostatize, even worse people."
-David French, 99.993% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (GBKbO)

321 What does KJP do after Biden? Who could she work for? Maybe a Joe Izuzu comic liar gig?

Posted by: Auspex at December 02, 2024 12:07 PM

-----------------

Run for President of Haiti.

Posted by: ShainS -- Looks Like VOTE HARDER Actually Worked This Time at December 02, 2024 12:17 PM (ysRX/)

322 I love the Hunter pardon. After Trump pardons the J6 hostages if the media whines just bring up the Hunter pardon…. Step back and watch the media fume. Popcorn please

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2024 12:18 PM (YobFY)

323
*insert Lucas Electric, Prince of Darkness joke here*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 02, 2024 12:19 PM (y9nCu)

324 Don't take Rivian if you are allergic to Rivian.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
.......

side effects include brain damage and anal leakage

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2024 12:19 PM (v0R5T)

325 Coworker of mine owned a Tesla. Typical NoVA type guy. He was bragging about how he could win a race against my car.

I said "OK - let's race to Miami."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 02, 2024 11:52 AM (3j71j)
__________________

A liberal acquaintance of mine was very proud of his new EV, saying he could drive from SD to LA in it.

"But could you drive back?"

Crickets.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 02, 2024 12:50 PM (YqDXo)

326 PardonsAreUs offering complete pardons for all federal crimes, now at the new low, low price of $5 million. Please direct enquiries to "Big Guy Inc" for complete details on this limited time offer!!! Act now!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2024 01:06 PM (aUXr0)

327 “Rivian continues to lose over $30,000 on every vehicle it sells …”

They’ll make it up in volume.

Posted by: RobinGoodfellow at December 02, 2024 02:42 PM (kiftR)

328 There was a Football Game between the San Francisco 49,ers and Buffalo Bills and it was Snowing Hard on them the Football Field was covered with snow that White Stuff we were never suppose to see again and they were brushing off the Yard Markers

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 02, 2024 04:20 PM (wGqjj)

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