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Trump Announces 25% Tariffs on Mexico and Canada If They Don't Stop the Flow of Illegals and Drugs Across the Border

I hope this works.

25percenttariffs.jpg

Why 25%? Why not 100%? Or 200%?

I think I know the answer. If Trump announces such a high tariff penalty that Canada and Mexico don't think he'll actually go through with it -- because it would cause financial and economic disruption inside the US -- then they might call his bluff.

But 25% is a level of tariff Trump would actually impose. It will cause stress, but it wouldn't cause factories to shut down.

So he really could impose it. And Mexico and Canada can't afford to call Trump's bluff, because it's not a bluff.

200% would be a bluff. 25% is a reasonable-but-painful penalty.


Sexually fluid blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

#BREAKING: Trump called by Canadian PM Justin Trudeau after his 25% tariff threat over border "invasion" and drug flow - Bloomberg

The topic of the call was border security, and Trudeau reportedly emphasized that issues are much worse at the Mexico border.


The threat is having the intended effect:

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

- Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
- Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

Biden, meanwhile, is making it easier for illegals to swarm across the border.


Tom Homan, meanwhile, showed why he is indispensable.


Update:

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

NEW--Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM

Posted by: Ace at 04:15 PM




Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2024 04:15 PM (Rcnd3)

2 Tax the pesos.

Posted by: Scarymary at November 26, 2024 04:16 PM (K1HkL)

3 This will work, if congress doesn't try and stop Trump from doing it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2024 04:16 PM (Rcnd3)

4 Why 25%? Why not 100%? Or 200%?


Wiggle room.
If you don't comply, it goes up to 50%.
Next is 75%.

Pray I don't alter the deal further.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (X4/Jm)

5 "Wait...I was arguing the merits of being pure on free trade. Why did the Mexican president give in? My arguments were great!"
-NRO

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

6 If Trump gets his appointees at Treasury and Commerce, he can absolutely institute these tarrifs.

If not...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (aYubz)

7 Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
NEW—Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (NpAcC)

8 An American president looking out for the American people. How novel.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2024 04:18 PM (u73oe)

9
Is is also talking about a 25% tariff on everything from China if they don't stop shipping the precursor chemicals for fentanyl to Mexico.

The fentanyl is made in Mexico, but China is supplying the raw materials.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 04:18 PM (w6EFb)

10 Sexually fluid blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?
__________________

"Because I don't like you." - DJT

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

11 7 Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
NEW—Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (NpAcC)

=======

Blacks have been signaling for years that they're really mad that Hispanics are skipping the line in terms of "their" benefits.

I'm sure this will do nothing but help Democrats with this growing issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

12 NEW: MX President Claudia Sheinbaum scrambles to get in line after Trump vowed to slap 25% tariffs on Mexico, says she has always shown willingness to help fight the fentanyl epidemic.

It’s remarkable how quickly they get in line.

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The Communist WILL Kneel Before The Capitalist!

Will Trump finally militarily declare war on and destroy the Cartel Terrorists next?

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 04:19 PM (76r/Z)

13 I didn't know the President of Mexico has a ponytail

Posted by: Grammie's phone at November 26, 2024 04:19 PM (SfhV1)

14 Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (NpAcC)

Because Democrats aren't Americans. Not really. I mean, they live here, and most of them were born here, but being an American is a mindset more than a geographical accident of fate.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:20 PM (aYubz)

15 It's my understanding that the tariffs are going to be on things that are available in the US that we don't necessarily need to import just because they are cheaper. That may have changed though. The EU will probably be hit with them on vehicles since they do it on ours.

Posted by: ryukyu at November 26, 2024 04:20 PM (z/gEl)

16 Bwahahaha!

Sweet!

Force Trudeau to use the pimp hand.

Posted by: Stateless at November 26, 2024 04:20 PM (jvJvP)

17 So much winning.

Posted by: Steven Fletcher at November 26, 2024 04:20 PM (HY6NV)

18 If Trump gets his appointees at Treasury and Commerce, he can absolutely institute these tariffs.

If not...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (aYubz)
_________________

... he fires any member of his Cabinet who isn't on board.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

19 Claudia Sheinbaum

must have an interesting heritage

Posted by: brak at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (NGHTx)

20 >Will Trump finally militarily declare war on and destroy the Cartel Terrorists next?

It feels inevitable that a US-Mexico war was going to happen.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (lhenN)

21 "Tom Homan: me and the Denver mayor agree on one thing, he is willing to go to jail and I am willing to put him there."

I can't hardly wait until Homan begins using one of the Left's favorite sentences during the past 8 years, "No one is above the law!"

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (aBgBM)

22 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this. I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (xrl61)

23 eh she's a big talker that Sheinbaum

she will, in fact, capitulate

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (Pv3Rg)

24 NEW: MX President Claudia Sheinbaum scrambles to get in line after Trump vowed to slap 25% tariffs on Mexico, says she has always shown willingness to help fight the fentanyl epidemic.
_______________

She just didn't get around to it until Nov. 6, that's all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (YqDXo)

25 An American president looking out for the American people. How novel.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
.......

Feels weird.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (v0R5T)

26 If Trump gets his appointees at Treasury and Commerce, he can absolutely institute these tarrifs.

If not...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (aYubz)

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Is Javier Milei, the President of Argentina, available?

/, only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (76r/Z)

27

Not only does 25% tariff mean she loses over 25% of her export market to the US, she also gets the cartels in her face for not facilitating the drug trade like she should.

Posted by: Kindltot+ (now with streaming!) at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (D7oie)

28 I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (xrl61)

I very much hope he means it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (aYubz)

29 23 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this. I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (xrl61)

=======

Just like John Bolton and General Mattis!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

30 Lebanon truce:

I read what Netanyahu said about the deal.

What he said makes EXCELLENT sense to me.

My 2 cents worth: Netanyahu didn't touch on this at all, but it's only a 2 MONTH truce. We all know how things may change a bit after Jan. 20th-- to Israel's advantage.

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:23 PM (NLIak)

31 Because Democrats aren't Americans. Not really. I mean, they live here, and most of them were born here, but being an American is a mindset more than a geographical accident of fate.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider,
.........................
This! ^^^^^^^^

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 26, 2024 04:23 PM (Qrgy8)

32 Tom Homan: me and the Denver mayor agree on one thing, he is willing to go to jail and I am willing to put him there.

That right there is some boss shit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 26, 2024 04:23 PM (pohLc)

33 willowed:

Catwoman, damn it! Catwoman!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:14 PM (L/fGl)


I would rather see Kamala Harris represented as Cartman, personally.

Posted by: Kindltot+ (now with streaming!) at November 26, 2024 04:23 PM (D7oie)

34 Mexico cannot afford to not comply.

U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $855.1 billion in 2022. Exports were $362.0 billion; imports were $493.1 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with Mexico was $131.1 billion in 2022.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

The question I have is how does this impact the last NAFTA agreement?

Posted by: Ann at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (4neFu)

35 18 Mexico's president is not capitulating. https://x.com/matthewichoi/status/
1861451002852864365
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (rEmVK)

Wow, that letter is infuriating.

I hope the tariff goes up to 30%.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (Evo1G)

36 “Men are not hanged for stealing horses, but that horses may not be stolen.”

Posted by: George Savile, the First Marquess of Halifax at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (5IgOe)

37 Mexico's president is not capitulating. https://x.com/matthewichoi/status/
1861451002852864365
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 26, 2024 04:21
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No surprise. The Cartel's allowed her to be President.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (hoCmQ)

38 Now do taxes on illegals remitting money back to their home country's

Posted by: Beartooth at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (WuJwx)

39 7 Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
NEW—Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (NpAcC)
----
Why involve the law. You are a lawbreaker by the very act of crossing the border illegally so we throw you out. You can go out on foot, helicopter or trebuchet.

Posted by: Ciampino - catapult? at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (i0xsb)

40 All the freaking out about Tariffs and the "Oh HAHA you dumb MAGA's are now going to be paying more," seem to act like this wasn't pushed in 2016 and was pointed out then that almost all these other countries are putting a tariff on goods from the US and the threat of them is to get them to back off on theirs or like in the case of Mexico to stop them from letting all these illegals come in to go to the US.

Posted by: buzzion at November 26, 2024 04:24 PM (aRLgQ)

41 My 2 cents worth: Netanyahu didn't touch on this at all, but it's only a 2 MONTH truce. We all know how things may change a bit after Jan. 20th-- to Israel's advantage.

The art of the hudna?

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at November 26, 2024 04:25 PM (Gyft8)

42 Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
NEW—Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

-
We're gonna need a shitload of lampposts!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:25 PM (L/fGl)

43 Afternoon.

I mentioned this in one of the previous threads that President Scheinbaum has threatened retaliation for any new tariffs.

The thing La Presidenta needs to understand is America can be retarded longer than Mexico can stay solvent.

Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (sVbES)

44 Also willowed.....

248 239 and useless as the tits on a boar.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
--------------

I love that turn of phrase. Reminds me of Mom calling my brothers and me that when we messed up.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 26, 2024 04:14 PM

--

"You beat all, you know that?"
--My Grandma
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 26, 2024 04:18

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (hoCmQ)

45 Tariffs are a huge weapon. We have to get our elections fixed.

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (xw/ji)

46 Here's a Tom Homan interview in which he explains the US's northern border is an issue.

http://tiny.cc/mmhxzz

432 people on the terrorist watch list crossed into the US via the northern border and were caught in 2023.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (Odg76)

47 Trump is putting a literal chokehold on Mexico and if he comes within my jurisdiction he will be arrested for killing Mexico!

Posted by: Alvin Bragg at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (eHKNk)

48 7 Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
NEW—Frederick, MD Mayor Michael O'Connor announces he will use taxpayer money to pay the legal fees of illegals facing deportation.

Democrats always put foreigners above Americans. They can't help themselves.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:17 PM (NpAcC)


All the money is ours! We loan a little of it to you, when we feel like it. We give it our clients, free and clear. Sux to be you, citizen. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Posted by: Democrats at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (aBgBM)

49 "The topic of the call was border security, and Trudeau reportedly emphasized that issues are much worse at the Mexico border."

Just like a child, "But Jimmy was doing it too and much worse!"

Posted by: Ciampino - catapults? at November 26, 2024 04:27 PM (i0xsb)

50 Does this mean tequila and maple syrup are about to get more expensive?

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 26, 2024 04:27 PM (wZmRG)

51 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this. I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (xrl61)
******
He retired and was a Fox News contributor. Every time he was on he vowed to come out of retirement if Trump was reelected and help him clean up the mess that Biden/Harris created.
I have been a fan for a long time. Totally awesome!

Posted by: redridinghood at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (NpAcC)

52 "Sexually fluid blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?"

---

I didn't think I could love you more, Ace, and then you write that.
Tip jar jingle incoming.

Posted by: The_Hoser at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (3qNLt)

53 47 Here's a Tom Homan interview in which he explains the US's northern border is an issue.

http://tiny.cc/mmhxzz

432 people on the terrorist watch list crossed into the US via the northern border and were caught in 2023.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2024 04:26 PM (Odg76)

It's a huge problem in all border communities. Foreigners (mostly Indians) fly to Canada then walk across the border in to the US and get driven to major cities from there.

It is one of the largest land borders in the world, and is almost entirely undefended.

We need to nip this in the bud.

And Canada needs to help us.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (Evo1G)

54 Collin Rugg is writing for a very specific audience. Taking what he says at face value is a mistake.

Will Mexico comply? I think they'll make a deal.

Is she "scramb[ing] to get in line?" I see no evidence of that, nor does Rugg provide any.

Posted by: Xander Crews at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (rEmVK)

55 Canada. Useless as tits on a boar hog.

Mexico. More useless than Canada.

Posted by: Favorite Phrases at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (Y5VD5)

56 Always willing to fight the fentanyl epidemic? Now fight human trafficking, Claudia.

How the hell did Mexico elect someone named Claudia Sheinbaum get elected in Mexico? Was there no DollarTree despot in Europe that could be imported and made emperor?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (Vyll1)

57 Scheinbaum said she'd impose a 25% tarriff, too.

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (2NXcZ)

58 I read that after Trump's tariff announcement, Mexico immediately agreed to stop the would-be wetbacks' caravans which are on their way to the U.S. right now.

Hope that's true.

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (NLIak)

59 No surprise. The Cartel's allowed her to be President.
Posted by: olddog in mo
......

For now.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

60 From BC's newly-founded Conservative Party that in its recent first election won 44 seats out of 93.

John Rustad @JohnRustad4BC 3h
We cannot afford a 25% tariff from our closest trading partner — BC’s legislature must be called back immediately to introduce emergency provincial funding to secure our borders and stop the illegal flow of migrants, as well as fentanyl and other drugs.

During BC’s provincial election, the Conservative Party of BC supported reforms to drastically improve port policing and border security in BC.

Now, in light of the US-Canada trade crisis, the Conservative Party of BC is asking Eby’s NDP to immediately adopt and fund the common sense Conservative strategy to improve border security in BC.

Our province’s international borders should not be an open sieve that drugs and illegal migrants can flow through freely — it’s time for emergency measures and immediate reforms. #bcpoli
====
NDP = New Democrat Party far left

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:29 PM (hovnC)

61 Eastern European Jewish on both sides.

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at November 26, 2024 04:29 PM (2NXcZ)

62 I mentioned earlier PDT knows there are a lot of foreign nationals coming in through Mexico who could just as easily be hand waved through Canada. PDT put Castreaux on notice he's aware foreign nationals will try to come in through Canada and won't stand for it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:29 PM (tT6L1)

63
It's a 10% tariff on China, everything, until the stop the fentanyl precursor traffic.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (w6EFb)

64 BOW TO YOUR SENSEI

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (wBaIH)

65 Hope that's true.
Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (NLIak)

Probably a lie.

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (2NXcZ)

66 23 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this. I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.
Posted by: CaliGirl
-----------

Women say that, but then they throw a bowl of macaroni and cheese at you when you tell them that their sister must have different genes because she had 3 kids and hasn't gained 50 pounds.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (5IgOe)

67 I mentioned this in one of the previous threads that President Scheinbaum has threatened retaliation for any new tariffs.

U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $855.1 billion in 2022. Exports were $362.0 billion; imports were $493.1 billion.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Guess who will blink first.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (xCA6C)

68 Weird how law and order reassert themselves when the sheriff rides in sight on his way back to town.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (vdeLk)

69 David Mulroney @David_Mulroney 4h
Not impossible that PMO spent more time strategizing the Taylor Swift concert than the re-election of Donald Trump.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (hovnC)

70 Avocados from Mehicooo!

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (v0R5T)

71 and most of them were born here, but being an American is a mindset more than a geographical accident of fate.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 26, 2024 04:20 PM (aYubz)
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Now try that with anchor babies.

Posted by: Ciampino - helicopter parachute? at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (i0xsb)

72 59 I read that after Trump's tariff announcement, Mexico immediately agreed to stop the would-be wetbacks' caravans which are on their way to the U.S. right now.

Hope that's true.
Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (NLIak)

Where did you read that?

Posted by: Xander Crews at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (rEmVK)

73 23 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this. I love a man that doesn't mince words and says exactly what he means.
Posted by: CaliGirl

No, that dress doesn't make your ass look big. You ass looks big because your ass IS big.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 26, 2024 04:32 PM (pohLc)

74 Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?

The fentanyl is being manufactured, packaged, transported, and trafficked from somewhere, somewhere that has been paid off to look the other way. (Yes, yes, just like our border, too). Have there been any big busts in Canada? Why not?

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:32 PM (xw/ji)

75 Worship the Holy Pervert!

Canadian town forced to pay $10,000 to LGBT group, send mayor to reeducation course because they didn't declare June "Pride Month" 🤡

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:32 PM (L/fGl)

76 I read that after Trump's tariff announcement, Mexico immediately agreed to stop the would-be wetbacks' caravans which are on their way to the U.S. right now.


Why, it's almost as if they could have stopped this at any time, but someone was telling them to let them come.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2024 04:32 PM (xCA6C)

77 Yeah, time to cut loose anchor baby status and send them packing to.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (qZdIZ)

78 U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $855.1 billion in 2022. Exports were $362.0 billion; imports were $493.1 billion.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Guess who will blink first.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (xCA6C)

Obviously we have much less of a need for Mexico than Mexico does for us.

Our major factories that moved to Mexico under NAAFTA (car manufacturing, for example), should be repatriated anyways. The rest of what Mexico produces (fruits, vegetables, cheap shittily made trinkets) can be made /grown in the US or in number of other countries around the world.

Yes, it will cost slightly more to ship avocados from Ecuador or whatever. But that's life.

Also, the avocado / drug cartel situation is reason enough to stop importing avocados (look it up, it's a wild story). Also, I can survive the rest of my life without ever eating another avocado if necessary.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (Evo1G)

79 FWIW, I am perfectly fine with Trump imposing a tariff on Canadian goods. I am retired, don't make a living off exports or manufacturing. My investment funds are mostly in oil and precious metals.

If the pressure causes Castro's bastard get to clean up his act, great! If it causes the Tranzi government to fall, even better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (OLhoy)

80 Talk is cheap Mr. Homan. Put up or shut up. Arrest that effing mayor on 1/20-21/25,, predawn preferably. Then wait awhile, then takedown a shithead governor for breaking immigration laws. Should've been done years ago. Also, thanks Mr. Reagan for that amnesty you gave us in the 80's. On what planet can you negotiate with Marxists Mr. Reagan? Never negotiate with Marxists. Never.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (8uodN)

81 Not only does 25% tariff mean she loses over 25% of her export market to the US, she also gets the cartels in her face for not facilitating the drug trade like she should.

Posted by: Kindltot+ (now with streaming!) at November 26, 2024 04:22 PM (D7oie)
___________________

It's about time that the US throws its economic weight around, since economically we're the 800 lb. gorilla.

To Mexico, Canada, and Europe: "Here's what you're going to do: [place demand here]. Otherwise say goodbye to your economy, which we will crush like a bug."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

82 How will I survive without my Chiclets gum and vanilla flavoring?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (Vyll1)

83 Mexico's president is not capitulating. https://x.com/matthewichoi/status/ 1861451002852864365
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 26, 2024 04:21 PM (rEmVK)

lol fuck her. One of the most useless finger pointing hotheaded fucking retarded things I e ever read from a so-called "leader."

Mexicans don't use drugs? Is she fucking serious?!? And does actually fucking say, "And that's your problem, gringo"?!?

Then she basically blames Americans for the goddamn cartel violence. "But you do all the drugs and make all the guns, waaaaaahhhhh!!!!"

And finally she holds her hands out for free money to address "root causes." Addressing root causes is expensive, dontchaknow.

Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (sVbES)

84 It’s remarkable how quickly they get in line.
====

Not really. We are just unaccustomed to what leadership looks like.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (RIvkX)

85 "Sexually fluid blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?"
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Posted by: The_Hoser at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (3qNLt)

86 I'm dubious about fentanyl dealers and human traffickers giving much of a shit about tariffs. If this is remotely what Trump II is suggesting they're for. Even partially.

I'm also dubious about Mexico's LE doing shit about it.

Somewhat less dubious about Canada's, but still....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (Q4IgG)

87 Mexico imports fuel, we import car parts (easily made here), vegetables and poverty

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (2NXcZ)

88 No surprise. The Cartel's allowed her to be President.
Posted by: olddog in mo
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For now.
Posted by: wth
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Noted.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (hoCmQ)

89 Step one: Tell third parties to knock off the human trafficking or face heavy fines.

Step 2: cut all funding to NGO's facilitating the invasion.

Step 3: Arrest everyone who works at above NGO's for human trafficking and put them on trial at the World Court, after being tried in the US. Just for the lulz.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (tT6L1)

90 Common sense leadership.

Use our buying power as leverage for policy.

This is so simple for a businessman and so complicated for a politician.

Posted by: Redenzo at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (V/pbu)

91 The fentanyl is being manufactured, packaged, transported, and trafficked from somewhere, somewhere that has been paid off to look the other way. (Yes, yes, just like our border, too). Have there been any big busts in Canada? Why not?
Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:32 PM (xw/ji)

Canada has their own problems, they already semi-resent the US, and securing the border / stopping drug flow is just not a high priority as of right now.

Canada's biggest domestic problem right now seems to be Indian Immigrants.

Unfortunately, I think Canada may be beyond the point where they can fix that. The immigration numbers (as a percentage of population) are truly staggering.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (Evo1G)

92 Israel and Lebanon’s Hezbollah on Tuesday agreed to a permanent ceasefire in cross-border hostilities.
“Effective at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow, local time, the fighting across the Lebanese-Israeli border will end,” President Joe Biden said in the White House Rose Garden.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier in the day that he supported the ceasefire deal, which he sent to his Cabinet for approval.

We our so proud of President Biden for scomplishing this historic deal.... So Proud.

Trump could has never bean able to doo this !!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (1MSOJ)

93 "his highly-frequented ass"

This is I guess why they say this place is known for its poetry. Sublime.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (1m82a)

94 Cut Mexico off without a penny

Posted by: long night ending, dawn in January at November 26, 2024 04:35 PM (2NXcZ)

95 Also, the avocado / drug cartel situation is reason enough to stop importing avocados (look it up, it's a wild story). Also, I can survive the rest of my life without ever eating another avocado if necessary.

I'm not interested in what Big Pit wants me to do.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2024 04:36 PM (xCA6C)

96 Seems to me, our biggest Mexican import is fukkin Mexicans.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 26, 2024 04:36 PM (pohLc)

97 69- Excelllent! That’s better than a first!

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 26, 2024 04:36 PM (vdeLk)

98 “Effective at 4:00 a.m. tomorrow, local time, the fighting across the Lebanese-Israeli border will end,” President Joe Biden said in the White House Rose Garden.

So they trotted out Joe to take credit...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (IyPmt)

99 Also, the avocado / drug cartel situation is reason enough to stop importing avocados (look it up, it's a wild story). Also, I can survive the rest of my life without ever eating another avocado if necessary.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (Evo1G)
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As a kid I lived in Fallbrook CA, the self-styled "avocado capital of the world," which was covered in avocado groves. Root rot, a fungal disease, clobbered some of the groves, and by now maybe all of them, but we ourselves grew and sold avocados to the local cooperative.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

100 Sexually fluid blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux called Trump to whine that the problem is mostly on the US southern border, so why pick on his highly-frequented ass?

Nice of him to tear his highly-frequented ass away from dancing at a Taylor Swift concert to actually pay attention to a problem. How about those riots in Montreal eh?

Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (oiNtH)

101 Our major factories that moved to Mexico under NAAFTA (car manufacturing, for example)

yeah just one example, most of your "all-American" Chevy Silverados and Ford Super Duties are built in Mexico and Canada, respectively, with maybe 40% US parts and the rest sourced "globally"

Posted by: brak at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (NGHTx)

102 I love Tom Homan, I had never heard of him prior to this

He directed ICE for the first year and a half of Trump I, but there was a lot of stuff going on, so I don't remember him much, either.

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (xu4vb)

103 I'm dubious about fentanyl dealers and human traffickers giving much of a shit about tariffs. If this is remotely what Trump II is suggesting they're for. Even partially.

I'm also dubious about Mexico's LE doing shit about it.

Somewhat less dubious about Canada's, but still....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2024 04:34 PM (Q4IgG)

The precursors for synthetic opiates are made in china, imported to Mexico, made in to fent and other drugs, then muled across the border.

Plenty of room for Mexico to crack down on Chinese imports of pharmaceutical chemicals, to prosecute drug gangs, go after the producers, etc.

But probably the easiest way they can show they're helping is by stopping the drugs from going to the US border.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (Evo1G)

104 Does this mean Trump will impose tariffs on maple syrup and comedians?

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (xSTgL)

105 I've also heard that we may redirect our Special Forces heros away from ops in Third World suitable and sic the on the Cartels invading our country. And we might even fight to win (like when Trump rewrote the ROE on ISIS).

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (wBaIH)

106 No surprise. The Cartel's allowed her to be President.
Posted by: olddog in mo
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OT/related - Narcos Mexico is a great series.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (Dm8we)

107 68

Agreed

And our tariffs would likely hurt produce exports immediately. I don't think Mexico can endure that for very long.

It might take a while for tariffs to hurt car part exports (or whatever else MX makes), but truck farmers (fruits & vegetables) will get the message FIRST. Plus, the U.S has alternate sources for those crops-- CA; Central America.

In addition, cooperation w/ Trump on border issues will cost MX essentially nothing. Because by now, a yuuge percentage of wets are OTMs (in ICE parlance)-- "other Than Mexico."

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (NLIak)

108 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?

Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (oiNtH)

109 Oh no! If we put a tariff on Mexico, who will pick their vegetables? (Funny that the Left has forgotten how much of that is grown there now.)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (gfViB)

110 Steven Chase @stevenchase 5h
Immigration Minister Marc Miller said Canada said illegal border crossings from Canada into U.S. pale in comparison to those from Mexico into U.S.
“In comparison to the border with Mexico, it's the equivalent, on a yearly basis, of a significant weekend at the Mexico border.”

Rupa Subramanya @rupasubramanya 2h
US Customs and Border Protection Services data show illegal migrant encounters have surged to over 198,000 in 2024, more than seven times the number from 2021.

For the same time period, agents encountered more than six times the number of people on terrorist screening watchlist at the northern border than at the southern border. That's an astonishing rate of increase.

It's embarrassing that the immigration minister @MarcMillerVM takes a corrupt third world country that can barely control internal threats let alone its borders as a benchmark for Canada. Look how we've fallen when Mexico is our benchmark. 🙄

https://tinyurl.com/ye28pwee
chart; influx trying to enter USA before PDT takes office??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (hovnC)

111 Canada has their own problems, they already semi-resent the US, and securing the border / stopping drug flow is just not a high priority as of right now.
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I don't give a shit what they resent and what they don't. Secure the border and stop the drug flow will be their very highest priority, or we'll nuke their economy (which, as I understand, is already pretty shaky).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

112 I hope people have nightmares of Tom Homan.

I have had nightmares of Gavin Newsom.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (RIvkX)

113 Does this mean Trump will impose tariffs on maple syrup and comedians?
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (xSTgL)
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That's not funny!

Posted by: Ryan Reynolds at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (tT6L1)

114 106 I've also heard that we may redirect our Special Forces heros away from ops in Third World suitable and sic the on the Cartels invading our country. And we might even fight to win (like when Trump rewrote the ROE on ISIS).

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 26, 2024 04:38 PM (wBaIH)

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That's a fight that very quickly could extend into Mexican territory.

Good.

Foreign adventurism right on our border to secure it is the good kind of foreign adventurism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

115 Boom.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (fV+MH)

116 Elementary school evacuated after student brought “historic unexploded ordinance” for show and tell

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They never tell us exactly what it is (or if they even know). I'm suspicious of the word "historic". This was in Britain so it could be from many centuries ago or it could be a Nazi incendiary device.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (L/fGl)

117 All the leftists suddenly remembered econ 101 as they remark that when you tax things that price increase goes on to the consumer.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (B9Prs)

118 "Permanent" ceasefire. LOL.

Haven't had a chance to check, hope this is causing enough outrage and heartburn among sane Israelis that the drive for essential autarky in all things military gets fresh energy.

And any serious Israelis better damn understand that the lever used here - US going along with a Chapter 5 imposed ceasefire - is a final warning from the universe to start prepping in earnest for a day (starting no sooner than 4 years from now, most likely) on which they will have to go the final mile and say FO to the US and UNSC. That day is coming, and the stakes will be Israel's survival in its current form.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (1m82a)

119 As a kid I lived in Fallbrook CA, the self-styled "avocado capital of the world," which was covered in avocado groves. Root rot, a fungal disease, clobbered some of the groves, and by now maybe all of them, but we ourselves grew and sold avocados to the local cooperative.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

We can Make Avocados Great Again by putting 100% tariff on Mexican imports.

I really don't understand how people don't realize that us NOT having tariffs and joining all these free trade treaties, etc. is essentially welfare to the rest of the world. At the expense of American citizens, American businesses, and people who work for a living in this country.

I am 100% on board with paying more money for vegetables grown and picked in the US by American citizens at normal wages. It would solve so many societal problems.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (Evo1G)

120 It's a huge problem in all border communities. Foreigners (mostly Indians) fly to Canada then walk across the border in to the US and get driven to major cities from there.

It is one of the largest land borders in the world, and is almost entirely undefended.

We need to nip this in the bud.

And Canada needs to help us.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:28 PM (Evo1G)

And based on an incident I witnessed last year, they were being let in by USCBP at a regular border crossing. Just got off a bus on the Canuck side, walked right by me in the car lane, spoke briefly with the agent handling the cars, and were escorted around behind the building where the lobby entrance is. I'm sure the border agents were doing this under orders from the Junta.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (OLhoy)

121 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri
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FWIW
Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo is her full name.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

122 118 All the leftists suddenly remembered econ 101 as they remark that when you tax things that price increase goes on to the consumer.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (B9Prs)

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"We're increasing taxes on soda to make people drink soda less. Also, our increases on taxes on income will do nothing to people trying to earn incomes."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

123 109 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (oiNtH)

Not as funny as former Peruvian president Alberto Fujimoto.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (xSTgL)

124 Hell, Canada ought to get tariffs for Trudeau wearing black-face, and the Canadians being to stupid to dump his globalist, tyrant, ass.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (Da7Vv)

125 Steven Chase @stevenchase 5h
Immigration Minister Marc Miller said Canada said illegal border crossings from Canada into U.S. pale in comparison to those from Mexico into U.S.
“In comparison to the border with Mexico, it's the equivalent, on a yearly basis, of a significant weekend at the Mexico border.”
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Interesting, but irrelevant. We could always build TWO walls, you know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (YqDXo)

126 Canada saying it's only "a few illegals crossing" sounds an awful lot like that stupid bint proclaiming to JD Vance it was "only a few apartment buildings which were taken over."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:42 PM (tT6L1)

127 118 All the leftists suddenly remembered econ 101 as they remark that when you tax things that price increase goes on to the consumer.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (B9Prs)

Lol seriously. The left goes hardcore libertarian when it suits them. "We need abortions because people should have full bodily autonomy and the government shouldn't be able to tell people what they can or can't do to their bodies" is an odd argument coming from our friends across the aisle. I've never seen them apply that logic to any other societal issue.

Same with taxes here. Because I'd love to hear their argument as to why raising corporate tax rates is not also a tax on consumers if tariffs are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:42 PM (Evo1G)

128 Canada might think about restricting the number of Indian immigrants who subsequently cross the border illegally into the US.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 26, 2024 04:42 PM (rJ48h)

129 Shut up Canada, or we'll leave America's Hat on the back seat of some rental car.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 26, 2024 04:42 PM (wBaIH)

130 Immigration Minister Marc Miller said Canada said illegal border crossings from Canada into U.S. pale in comparison to those from Mexico into U.S.

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"Pale"?!!! THAT'S RACIST,

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:43 PM (L/fGl)

131 U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $855.1 billion in 2022. Exports were $362.0 billion; imports were $493.1 billion.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Guess who will blink first.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2024 04:30 PM (xCA6C)

Thanks for posting these numbers - I was going to ask. My guess would have been that they need us more than we need them.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 26, 2024 04:43 PM (LxER7)

132 But muh avocado toast!

And my... maple syrup, I guess?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:43 PM (B9Prs)

133 Weird how law and order reassert themselves when the sheriff rides in sight on his way back to town.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 26, 2024 04:31 PM (vdeLk)

The Sheriff Is Near!

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at November 26, 2024 04:43 PM (Y5VD5)

134 Justin Trudeau is so punchable.

He and his father are twin titans of destruction.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (RIvkX)

135 Cory Morgan @CoryBMorgan 4h
Fentanyl has been pouring into Canada from China.

It then pours from Canada into the USA and we are now about to pay a price for that.

I wonder why China sees Canada as such a soft touch for their smuggling?

Daily Chime @daily_chime 8m Replying to @CoryBMorgan
Lost in all the pearl clutching about the tariffs, was that it also included a 10% tariff on China to halt constituent chemical smuggling into Mexico.
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Sikhs in BC also involved in the fentanyl trade.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (hovnC)

136 I am 100% on board with paying more money for vegetables grown and picked in the US by American citizens at normal wages. It would solve so many societal problems.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (Evo1G)
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Agree 100%. We have a lot of welfare recipients who have time on their hands, and picking vegetables doesn't require intensive technical training.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

137 Alberto Fujimoto.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (xSTgL)

Fujimori.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (d9fT1)

138 And based on an incident I witnessed last year, they were being let in by USCBP at a regular border crossing. Just got off a bus on the Canuck side, walked right by me in the car lane, spoke briefly with the agent handling the cars, and were escorted around behind the building where the lobby entrance is. I'm sure the border agents were doing this under orders from the Junta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:40 PM (OLhoy)

I'm sure they use the same tricks at the northern border as they do at the southern.

"We are here to claim asylum. We're being persecuted by our village back home for being [whatever]."

"Okay, right this way. Here's your court date in 5 years. See you then!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (Evo1G)

139 I'm really worried about King Harv.
Going up against a polar bear is tough enough, but one with
two chainsaws, it doesn't look good...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (TGPs7)

140 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri

She's the Big Enchilada of Mexico.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (L/fGl)

141 Now, in light of the US-Canada trade crisis, the Conservative Party of BC is asking Eby’s NDP to immediately adopt and fund the common sense Conservative strategy to improve border security in BC.

Our province’s international borders should not be an open sieve that drugs and illegal migrants can flow through freely — it’s time for emergency measures and immediate reforms. #bcpoli
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NDP = New Democrat Party far left
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:29 PM (hovnC)

Spoiler: the Dippers won't do it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (OLhoy)

142 Mayor O'Connor looks like your typical leftist soi boy. Let him take a couple of illegal gang members into his house. I doubt he would enjoy the experience

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (FxDm7)

143 Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo is her full name.
Posted by: wth

Claudia Pardo, tell our constant what they have won!!

"Sure, Bob - he's won a year's supply of Alpo dog food, a Speed Queen washer and dryer, a brand new car, and 24 months in a shithole jail complete with three squares and a thin mat. Oh, almost forgot - and a bucket to poop in."

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (WXNFJ)

144 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?

her avocado bagels are the best

Posted by: brak at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (NGHTx)

145 Agree 100%. We have a lot of welfare recipients who have time on their hands, and picking vegetables doesn't require intensive technical training.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

And it's a honest good days work that you can feel good about. Like when I did landscaping as a kid. Strong feeling of accomplishment, make some decent money, spend the day outside in the sun and not dealing with customer service roles / flipping burgers in a hot kitchen.

I think we should be encouraging it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (Evo1G)

146 Frederick is an easy side trip on the WH to Camp David flight. Get him the WKRP Cincinatti special next year.

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (FhXTo)

147 Same with taxes here. Because I'd love to hear their argument as to why raising corporate tax rates is not also a tax on consumers if tariffs are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:42 PM (Evo1G)
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Corporations don't pay taxes; they collect them for the government.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (YqDXo)

148 'contestant' Damn autocucumber!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (WXNFJ)

149 She's the Big Enchilada of Mexico.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (L/fGl)

Must…not…make…taco…joke…

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (xSTgL)

150 am 100% on board with paying more money for vegetables grown and picked in the US by American citizens at normal wages.

The problem with that scenario is that, with the shuttering of the IRS (tax bite) and the destruction of the Fed (inflation), and competition amongst ex-Federal employees for those jobs, you may not have to pay more!

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (MZXFo)

151 But, the important question is: How on earth will David Frum survive without his avocado toast?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (tT6L1)

152 Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024

Yes The part of her family which is Jewish survived the Holocaust in Bulgaria.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (g0TmC)

153 124 109 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (oiNtH)

Not as funny as former Peruvian president Alberto Fujimoto.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (xSTgL)
If she was half the man Fujimoto was she could clean up Mexico.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (FuCE/)

154 Our major factories that moved to Mexico under NAAFTA (car manufacturing, for example)

yeah just one example, most of your "all-American" Chevy Silverados and Ford Super Duties are built in Mexico and Canada, respectively, with maybe 40% US parts and the rest sourced "globally"

Posted by: brak at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM


Toyota moved all Tacoma production to mexico and the trucks coming out of that country sucks and people are refusing to buy them as they have done in the past. They also moved the Tundra engine factory there and now they have to replace over 102,000 complete engines on new Tundra's.


I seriously hope they have learned their lesson.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (Rcnd3)

155 - Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

Then: There is literally nothing that can be done to stop the flow of immigrants. Deal with it raycists!

Now: Well of course the Mexican president will shut down the caravans because unlike Trump she is someone that cares about these poor souls.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (oZhjI)

156 Steven Chase @stevenchase 5h
Immigration Minister Marc Miller said Canada said illegal border crossings from Canada into U.S. pale in comparison to those from Mexico into U.S.
“In comparison to the border with Mexico, it's the equivalent, on a yearly basis, of a significant weekend at the Mexico border.”

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Then it should be super easy to shut down illegal crossings. Barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (u73oe)

157 Will repeat what I said on the monkey threat this morning. Everyone seems to forget when Trump partially closed the MX border during his first term. For just a day or two.

MX went absolutely ape-s**t, and conceded the policy change demanded immediately (forget what it was). Being close to the border, it was pretty dramatic.

All of this "oh look, wow, [fill in the blank] actually works, quickly, and doesn't lead to disaster, when we use our power, others comply" has been going on for decades. Could fill pages with examples.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (1m82a)

158 Justin's been flooding here with our genuine "Green card" holders; H1B1 [and unskilled] work visa holders; student visas [often for fake 'colleges']; and phoney refugees like Biden's Haitians applying by a telephone app for claiming refugee status and then being flown into the country. [At least we aren't paying for our phoney refugees to fly here but, as with you, for everything else.]

Toronto Sun @TheTorontoSun 4h
Feds expect 4.9 million with expiring visas to 'voluntarily' leave Canada in next year torontosun.com/news/national…

Cory Morgan @CoryBMorgan 36m
They will be escorted by the Easter Bunny.
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So, Joe Biden hardest hit.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (hovnC)

159 I hate avocados anyway.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (LxER7)

160 And it's a honest good days work that you can feel good about. Like when I did landscaping as a kid. Strong feeling of accomplishment, make some decent money, spend the day outside in the sun and not dealing with customer service roles / flipping burgers in a hot kitchen.

I think we should be encouraging it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:45 PM (Evo1G)
____________

Same here with tending an avocado grove, which is a lot of hard work, but done outside in the fresh air, and strangely kind of satisfying.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (YqDXo)

161 The problem with that scenario is that, with the shuttering of the IRS (tax bite) and the destruction of the Fed (inflation), and competition amongst ex-Federal employees for those jobs, you may not have to pay more!
Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:46 PM (MZXFo)

I already buy as much as possible from local (ish) farms. I have no problem paying more money for better food, grown on a real farm that I can see, by a bunch of idealistic granola types making $20 / hr or whatever.

Voting with my wallet, as it were.

But yes, if tax policy and economic growth mean people can still make reasonable wages and the prices of food go down, I'm all for it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (Evo1G)

162 Canada is not our friend - any more than the UK.

The UK has more political prisoners then noted authoritarian state Russia.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 04:49 PM (oZhjI)

163 Canada is not our friend - any more than the UK.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (Ta2ZD)

They're not our guy either, friend.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:49 PM (B9Prs)

164 "...he is willing to go to jail and I am willing to put him there."


Friggin' best sound bite EVAH!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (W/lyH)

165 Justin's been flooding here with our genuine "Green card" holders; H1B1 [and unskilled] work visa holders; student visas [often for fake 'colleges']; and phoney refugees like Biden's Haitians applying by a telephone app for claiming refugee status and then being flown into the country. [At least we aren't paying for our phoney refugees to fly here but, as with you, for everything else.]
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WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (YqDXo)

166 Sikhs in BC also involved in the fentanyl trade.

Pluck yer magic twanger woggy!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (Ilcmv)

167 Trump: Talked about grabbing 'em by the kitty

Trudeau: Grabbed at least one of his students by the kitty

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (oZhjI)

168 I'm hoping the next round of warnings will be sent to the UK regarding freedom of speech, expression, press, etc.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (TN0g+)

169 ::::::::::::triggering commences::::::::::::

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (fV+MH)

170 Looks like we are about to enter The Finding Out Phase of Denying Trump a 2nd Term in 2020.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (XV/Pl)

171 166 Canada is not our friend - any more than the UK.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 04:48 PM (Ta2ZD)

They're not our guy either, friend.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2024 04:49 PM (B9Prs)

They're not our buddy either, guy.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (LxER7)

172 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri


She's pretty Mexican. Her father's name is Carlos, after all. Carlos Sheinbaum Yoselevitz.

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (MZXFo)

173 WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (YqDXo)
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The stray cat population is out of hand, mon.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (tT6L1)

174 WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (YqDXo)

Because diversity is, of course, our strength.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (Evo1G)

175 “In terms of security, we will guarantee the reduction of high-impact crimes. Calderón’s irresponsible war on drugs, which continues to do so much damage to Mexico, will not return. Our conviction is that security and peace are the fruit of justice.”

https://tinyurl.com/2yrjr7kw
The American Conservative -
"The Dangerous Radical on Our Southern Border"


Shinebaum plans on doing nothing at the border.
The cartels control her like the did AMLO.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (6ydKt)

176 171 I'm hoping the next round of warnings will be sent to the UK regarding freedom of speech, expression, press, etc.
Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (TN0g+)

========

End American involvement in Five Eyes.

End American involvement in NATO.

Kick the UN out of the US.

Refocus on the Western Hemisphere and let the spiritual successors to the dynasties that sent Europe into WWI work out their own issues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

177 The link from the Mexican PM isn't working - has the statement been taken down?

Posted by: Black JEM at November 26, 2024 04:52 PM (GZYu7)

178 55 124 109 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (oiNtH)

Not as funny as former Peruvian president Alberto Fujimoto.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (xSTgL)
If she was half the man Fujimoto was she could clean up Mexico.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (FuCE/)
________________

Just by firing up the weather machine?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

179 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri


All of the top politicians in Mexico (and most nations to the south) are more Caucasian than Joe F'in Biden. There's where there is real and pervasive White Privilege.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 04:52 PM (aBgBM)

180 "WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?"


Some dude once said something like "enemies, foreign and domestic".

Or some shit.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2024 04:52 PM (fV+MH)

181 173 Looks like we are about to enter The Finding Out Phase of Denying Trump a 2nd Term in 2020.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (XV/Pl)

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Not a prediction:

At least three dozen Democrat officials from mayor up through governor end up in prison, some from the same jurisdiction (like, two Denver mayors in a row).

The disruption is so acute and unwanted in those jurisdictions that the people actually end up blaming the Democrats more for it than Trump, and Republicans suddenly start winning mayoral races in deep blue enclaves specifically because of immigration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

182 Because diversity is, of course, our strength.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (Evo1G)
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Just like it was for Yugoslavia!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (YqDXo)

183 Let's see, I don't drink tequila and my hot sauce is made in Louisiana. I get CA grown avocados, lemons, limes.
Bring it on.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (MeG8a)

184 I know free traders don’t like to hear it but the USA has the resources and capabilities to be fully self sufficient economically.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (mdi0h)

185 73

Multiple stories on the 'Net.

If interested, google "migrant caravans" news stories, within last 24 hours.

Scheinbaum claims that MX has been stopping these caravans already, for a long time. (cough! BULLZH*T!!! cough!)

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (NLIak)

186 185 I'd cross stitch this, stretch if over a hoop, and hang it in the hall like my grandmother did bible verses. If I knew how.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (Ta2ZD)

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And I'm one of more soft-spoken ones around here, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

187 Some dude once said something like "enemies, foreign and domestic".
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Said looking at the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (YqDXo)

188 And I'm one of more soft-spoken ones around here, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
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You cow us with the threat of "Prometheus."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (z0QHk)

189 189 Scheinbaum claims that MX has been stopping these caravans already, for a long time. (cough! BULLZH*T!!! cough!)
Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (NLIak)

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The border between Mexico and Guatemala isn't that large, is mostly impassable jungle, and is highly regulated at all possible crossing points, but caravans have gotten all the way from there to the US border...somehow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

190 America First and Free Trade do not automatically go together.

Posted by: tubal at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (PCK5/)

191
WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?


doctors, engineers, something something

Posted by: the media at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (NGHTx)

192 All of the top politicians in Mexico (and most nations to the south) are more Caucasian than Joe F'in Biden. There's where there is real and pervasive White Privilege.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 04:52 PM (aBgBM)

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The OG "White Hispanics."

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (ScI+v)

193 I know free traders don’t like to hear it but the USA has the resources and capabilities to be fully self sufficient economically.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (mdi0h)
_________________

There's a lot to be said for autarky, especially in time of war.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (YqDXo)

194 End American involvement in Five Eyes.

End American involvement in NATO.

Kick the UN out of the US.

Refocus on the Western Hemisphere and let the spiritual successors to the dynasties that sent Europe into WWI work out their own issues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

It looks like TJM Johnson has a good idea

Posted by: Wolf Johnson

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (VNX3d)

195
Yes, they should move UN HQ to the truly most "international" location on the planet: Antarctica.

Put it right at the South Pole, next to Amundsen-Scott base.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (w6EFb)

196 America First and Free Trade do not automatically go together.

that's that giant sucking sound I told you about

Posted by: Zombie Ross Perot at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (NGHTx)

197 194 America First and Free Trade do not automatically go together.
Posted by: tubal at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (PCK5/)

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Free Trade is like the chemical theories tied to all elements behaving like hydrogen:

Useful but wrong a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

198 @184

>>Not a prediction:


The madness has got to stop, the Democrat/leftist program is simply untenable and un-American.

It seems, SEEMS, the fever has been broken and the patient is ready for some harsh medicine.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (XV/Pl)

199 America First and the Chamber of Commerce do not automatically go together either.

Posted by: tubal at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (PCK5/)

200 188 I know free traders don’t like to hear it but the USA has the resources and capabilities to be fully self sufficient economically.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (mdi0h)

Yeah, free trade is fake and gay.

There is no such thing that exists on this planet. Every country uses currency devaluation, tariffs, subsidies, environmental law, etc. etc. to, well, take advantage of the US.

And our retarded leaders used the US market as both a sword and a shield in foreign relations. Fucking over the US middle class in the process, with VERY LITTLE to show for it.

I thought opening up China to the US market was supposed to end communism and turn China in to a major US ally like Japan? Turns out it didn't. So great job, guys.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Evo1G)

201 "You cow us with the threat of "Prometheus."
Posted by: Captain Obvious"

Which really wasn't that bad, if you went into it with no expectations at all.

Posted by: eleven at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (fV+MH)

202 > WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?
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Their cuisine?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Q4IgG)

203 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 04:39 PM (oiNtH)

PresidentA. Remember, Spanish is a gendered language.

/In before "Presidentx"

================
FWIW
Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo is her full name.
Posted by: wth at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

Pardo is her mother's maiden name so it can be dropped. It's like when people tried to refer to AMLO by the name Obrador. Dude, that's his mom's name. Just call him Lopez.

Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (G7iEO)

204 pour encourager les autres

Posted by: Voltaire at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Aqu9a)

205 The border between Mexico and Guatemala isn't that large, is mostly impassable jungle, and is highly regulated at all possible crossing points, but caravans have gotten all the way from there to the US border...somehow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
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It's a mystery wrapped up in a no known motive.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (tT6L1)

206
I know You People think I'm too hard on hollywood celeries, but they really do make me sick.

Here's what an old washed-up hag celery thinks of YOU:

https://is.gd/MuaRka

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (A7+oG)

207 The border between Mexico and Guatemala isn't that large, is mostly impassable jungle, and is highly regulated at all possible crossing points, but caravans have gotten all the way from there to the US border...somehow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)


And they all show up fit and generally healthy, after walking thousands of miles and living in the open.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (W/lyH)

208 WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?

doctors, engineers, something something

Posted by: the media at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (NGHTx)
________________

Yeah, Haiti and Somali are well-known for their doctors and engineers. Ignore that 65 IQ canard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (YqDXo)

209 202 The madness has got to stop, the Democrat/leftist program is simply untenable and un-American.

It seems, SEEMS, the fever has been broken and the patient is ready for some harsh medicine.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (XV/Pl)

=======

Ambitious Democrat pols with space to move up are continuing to make resistance noises.

I say, give 'em the photo-op they want. Put them in orange and in prison for a decade for violating federal law.

(This also indicates to me that Democrat donors have no intention at all of backing down from crazy progressivism.)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:57 PM (GBKbO)

210 WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?

Wait a minute this is not the kitty eating I was promised

Posted by: Some AWFL that can't find fluffy after Haitians came into her neighborhood at November 26, 2024 04:57 PM (oZhjI)

211 WTF are allowing ANY Haitians to come here? Or Somalis, for that matter?
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Their cuisine?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Q4IgG)
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Cat recipes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:57 PM (YqDXo)

212 I'm not a Logan Act expert, or even a fan, but I find it interesting that Logan prevents Trump from calling foreign leaders but apparently doesn't apply when they contact him.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 26, 2024 04:57 PM (Cbio9)

213 Put it right at the South Pole, next to Amundsen-Scott base.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 04:55 PM (w6EFb)
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That's the one with the chimney which leaked CO, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 04:58 PM (tT6L1)

214 Pardo is her mother's maiden name so it can be dropped. It's like when people tried to refer to AMLO by the name Obrador. Dude, that's his mom's name. Just call him Lopez.
Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (G7iEO)
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One of the villains of Fraser's "The Pyrates" is Don Lardo Baluna del Lobby y Corridor.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 26, 2024 04:58 PM (z0QHk)

215 "Pale"?!!! THAT'S RACIST,
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Threadwinner!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 04:58 PM (hovnC)

216
Also, the avocado / drug cartel situation is reason enough to stop importing avocados (look it up, it's a wild story). Also, I can survive the rest of my life without ever eating another avocado if necessary.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:33 PM (Evo1G)

__________

The avocado cartel is fueled by the insatiable American demand for guacamole.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2024 04:58 PM (xQ+SC)

217
*Do Not Watch* the video I linked above.

It will only annoy you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 04:58 PM (A7+oG)

218 The border between Mexico and Guatemala isn't that large, is mostly impassable jungle, and is highly regulated at all possible crossing points, but caravans have gotten all the way from there to the US border...somehow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

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All that sweet sweet grift courtesy of US Taxpayers via GONGO (Government-Organized Non-Governmental Organization) cutouts and a USELESS cutout (The UN).

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (ScI+v)

219 I'm sure they use the same tricks at the northern border as they do at the southern.

"We are here to claim asylum. We're being persecuted by our village back home for being [whatever]."

"Okay, right this way. Here's your court date in 5 years. See you then!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:44 PM (Evo1G)

Well, if the USCBP agents are falling for that, it's because the Junta told them to. Canada is a "safe country" for refugees. By international convention, once a refugee is in a "safe" country, they are done as an asylum-seeker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (BsJeO)

220 The US doesnt need Mexico. Mexico absolutely needs the US.

For what Mexico has done to this country, I hope Trump destroys their economy. I'll gladly pay a little more for my guacamole for a good trade war.

right now Mexico has a socialist Karen president that is owned by the cartels

Posted by: Leupold at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (4pwAx)

221 193 189 Scheinbaum claims that MX has been stopping these caravans already, for a long time. (cough! BULLZH*T!!! cough!)
Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2024 04:53 PM (NLIak)

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The border between Mexico and Guatemala isn't that large, is mostly impassable jungle, and is highly regulated at all possible crossing points, but caravans have gotten all the way from there to the US border...somehow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
We used to have a group of what is called ‘intelligence agencies’ who could, get this, caputure this migration vita satellite surveillance. The same satellite surveillance used to run down American grannies their Constitutional rights.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (FuCE/)

222
btw, she said the exact same stupid thing that asshole johnny depp said when bush got reelected.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (A7+oG)

223 You can't keep a good man down! Or a bad one, apparently.

Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Alec Baldwin in Italy: After Trump's victory, "half the people in the country are very unhappy, it’s a very difficult time ... Americans are really uninformed about reality, what's really going on — w/ climate change, Ukraine, you name it ... Americans have an appetite for a little bit of information"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (L/fGl)

224 228 Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Alec Baldwin in Italy: After Trump's victory, "half the people in the country are very unhappy, it’s a very difficult time ... Americans are really uninformed about reality, what's really going on — w/ climate change, Ukraine, you name it ... Americans have an appetite for a little bit of information"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (L/fGl)

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Yes, finger on the pulse.

Climate change and Ukraine are top priorities.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

225 > "Okay, right this way. Here's your court date in 5 years. See you then!"

I believe in the last couple of years, the immigration hearing court dates have been SEVEN years out.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (Odg76)

226 I thought opening up China to the US market was supposed to end communism and turn China in to a major US ally like Japan? Turns out it didn't. So great job, guys.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Evo1G)

———-

Yeah, the free traders are pretty mum on China’s belligerence and the economic decisions that led to it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (mdi0h)

227 Ambitious Democrat pols with space to move up are continuing to make resistance noises.

I say, give 'em the photo-op they want. Put them in orange and in prison for a decade for violating federal law.

(This also indicates to me that Democrat donors have no intention at all of backing down from crazy progressivism.)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:57 PM (GBKbO)


Leftist Mega-billionaires (here and abroad), along with the teacher, public employee, and many industrial unions, own the Dems and won't let them back-down from crazy.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (aBgBM)

228 Well, if the USCBP agents are falling for that, it's because the Junta told them to. Canada is a "safe country" for refugees. By international convention, once a refugee is in a "safe" country, they are done as an asylum-seeker.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (BsJeO)

Oh, of course they were told to. At both borders.

If we're following the international convention, all the ecuadorians would have to stay in Mexico. Which they did under Trump, until Biden said "nahhh, send them up here!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (Evo1G)

229 The city of Frederick also voted to allow illegal aliens to vote in municipal elections. The city itself has gone from crimson red to deep blue over the last 30 years... it's sickening. The migration of Montgomery County parasites continues apace.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (1FWWQ)

230 Alec, once again proving only the rich can afford a luxury belief system.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (tT6L1)

231 @216

>>I'm not a Logan Act expert, or even a fan, but I find it interesting that Logan prevents Trump from calling foreign leaders but apparently doesn't apply when they contact him.

The Logan Act is bullsh*t and unconstitutional.

We should dig up Ted Kennedy put his rotted corpse in stocks and write Logan Act in red across his stupid head.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (XV/Pl)

232 231 Leftist Mega-billionaires (here and abroad), along with the teacher, public employee, and many industrial unions, own the Dems and won't let them back-down from crazy.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (aBgBM)

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Which is increasingly obviously a losing proposition electorally.

2028 Democrat primaries should be hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (GBKbO)

233 I thought opening up China to the US market was supposed to end communism and turn China in to a major US ally like Japan? Turns out it didn't. So great job, guys.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Evo1G)
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Yeah, we didn't end communism in China. We brought communism here instead.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (YqDXo)

234 Not as funny as former Peruvian president Alberto Fujimoto.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at November 26, 2024 04:41 PM (xSTgL)
If she was half the man Fujimoto was she could clean up Mexico.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 04:47 PM (FuCE/)
________________

Just by firing up the weather machine?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Helicopters.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (X4/Jm)

235 They're not our buddy either, guy.
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That's right, sonny.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 26, 2024 05:03 PM (hovnC)

236 237 I thought opening up China to the US market was supposed to end communism and turn China in to a major US ally like Japan? Turns out it didn't. So great job, guys.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Evo1G)
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Yeah, we didn't end communism in China. We brought communism here instead.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (YqDXo)

What am I ... chopped liver ?!?!

Posted by: zombie Gus Hall at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (TTAGa)

237 >> That's the one with the chimney which leaked CO, right?

That CO poisoning was Admiral Byrd himself way back earlier, where in Antarctica I forget, maybe close to where McMurdo is, but I'm not sure.

Amundsen-Scott is right at the South Pole, and is a pretty fancy base.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (w6EFb)

238 Alec Baldwin in Italy: After Trump's victory, "half the people in the country are very unhappy, it’s a very difficult time ... Americans are really uninformed about reality, what's really going on — w/ climate change, Ukraine, you name it ... Americans have an appetite for a little bit of information"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (L/fGl)
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You just need to shoot them. You know, like you did on the set of "Rust."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

239 An seriously bang-up article at ZH on DEI:

"What we found is that when people are exposed to this ideology, what happens is they become hostile without any indication that anything racist has happened."

https://tinyurl.com/2c8jdecd

Posted by: pawn at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (QB+5g)

240 And our retarded leaders used the US market as both a sword and a shield in foreign relations. Fucking over the US middle class in the process, with VERY LITTLE to show for it.

I thought opening up China to the US market was supposed to end communism and turn China in to a major US ally like Japan? Turns out it didn't. So great job, guys.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 04:56 PM (Evo1G)
==
Well, it did prevent the Soviets from breaking out and ended their regime. Russia as a threat is a far cry from their predecessors. But that has been awhile, and we just kept doing it as if it was on auto-pilot. That is now changing. The world will figure it out all in good time.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (GZYu7)

241 Start using tinyurl or some other url-shortening system or I am going to start banning people.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (d9fT1)

242 Yeah, the free traders are pretty mum on China’s belligerence and the economic decisions that led to it.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 05:00 PM (mdi0h)

Because I don't think they ever thought that would work.

They just believe in, as Obama put it, redistributing the wealth.

America is rich, China is poor. Obviously we should take from the Americans and give to the Chinese. And they gotta take their cut off the top, of course. You know, for equity.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:05 PM (Evo1G)

243
Yeah, we didn't end communism in China. We brought communism here instead


oops. oopsie. shucks

Posted by: Globalist uniparty socialists at November 26, 2024 05:05 PM (NGHTx)

244 >>>blackface enthusiast and literal Communist bastard Justin Castreaux

This should be the AP style guide for using his name going forward. Seriously. If we lived in a sane world.

Posted by: LizLem at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (sAa5Q)

245 I'll begin taking "the environment" and "climate crisis" seriously the moment the rest of the world begins to DEMAND that China take it seriously.

Until then, I won't toss my litter into the street or into the ocean, but beyond that I don't give a damn about the environment or the climate.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (TN0g+)

246 Looks like we are about to enter The Finding Out Phase of Denying Trump a 2nd Term in 2020.

I will be satisfied if a sufficient number of Democrats burn forever, screaming, in the agonizing fires of Hell are lawfully prosecuted for their crimes during the second term.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 26, 2024 05:07 PM (Da7Vv)

247 The US doesnt need Mexico. Mexico absolutely needs the US.

For what Mexico has done to this country, I hope Trump destroys their economy. I'll gladly pay a little more for my guacamole for a good trade war.

Posted by: Leupold at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (4pwAx)
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Well this would be a bit untrue. We need Mexico to assist in bringing the making of stuff back to North America. Without them, China has us over a barrel.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 26, 2024 05:07 PM (GZYu7)

248 236 231 Leftist Mega-billionaires (here and abroad), along with the teacher, public employee, and many industrial unions, own the Dems and won't let them back-down from crazy.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (aBgBM)

========

Which is increasingly obviously a losing proposition electorally.

2028 Democrat primaries should be hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Yep. Those Democrat constituencies clearly have failed to read the room. They think that MAGA is a flash in the pan. I think it is going to be significant on the generational timescale.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:08 PM (YqDXo)

249 Ignore that 65 IQ canard.
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Ou est le canard??

Posted by: haitian 'refugee' at November 26, 2024 05:08 PM (hovnC)

250 That CO poisoning was Admiral Byrd himself way back earlier, where in Antarctica I forget, maybe close to where McMurdo is, but I'm not sure.

Amundsen-Scott is right at the South Pole, and is a pretty fancy base.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (w6EFb)
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I read "Alone" and the part about the chimney really stuck out. To bad I didn't remember it was Admiral Byrd who wrote it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:08 PM (tT6L1)

251  I won't toss my litter into the street or into the ocean, but beyond that I don't give a damn about the environment or the climate.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (TN0g+)

Clearly you have much to learn about virtue signalling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2024 05:09 PM (d9fT1)

252 This puts a smile on my face. Trump is still 54 or 55 days away from inauguration and the changes are already happening.
At the same time, the WH seems to want WWIII with Russia...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:09 PM (ynpvh)

253
I don't trust our government - even this one - to pick industries to protect. I do trust broad, across the board tariffs. If the extra 25% is too much ? I assume somebody greedy, domestic, will get in the market.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 04:59 PM (Ta2ZD)

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All I can say is we have 40 years of data on the free trade experiment. I agree targeted tariffs for certain industries is not the way to go unless our trading partners have a proven track record of scamming us.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 26, 2024 05:09 PM (mdi0h)

254 We should dig up Ted Kennedy put his rotted corpse in stocks and write Logan Act in red across his stupid head.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (XV/Pl)

Where to send money for newsletter, sir?

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 26, 2024 05:09 PM (Cbio9)

255 Well this would be a bit untrue. We need Mexico to assist in bringing the making of stuff back to North America. Without them, China has us over a barrel.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 26, 2024 05:07 PM (GZYu7)

I don't see it that way. There is no reason we can't manufacture everything here. More expensive, yes, but will also raise the wages of people here.

But even if we don't bring it back to the US, there are a lot of countries in this world with large labor pools that work for near-slave wages under horrible conditions and do very half assed work for the most part that aren't called China or Mexico.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:09 PM (Evo1G)

256 I'll begin taking "the environment" and "climate crisis" seriously the moment the rest of the world begins to DEMAND that China take it seriously.

Until then, I won't toss my litter into the street or into the ocean, but beyond that I don't give a damn about the environment or the climate.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (TN0g+)
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This.

All the eco-crap is merely a vehicle for leftist agitation, just feminism, BLM, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:10 PM (YqDXo)

257 Start using tinyurl or some other url-shortening system or I am going to start banning people.

They don't seem to want to load on this device.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (Ilcmv)

258 245 Start using tinyurl or some other url-shortening system or I am going to start banning people.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (d9fT1)

_________________________

Very understandable. Might I suggest that a link to the Tiny URL site be placed permanently in the sidebar for easy access?

Posted by: Orson at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (dIske)

259 236 231 Leftist Mega-billionaires (here and abroad), along with the teacher, public employee, and many industrial unions, own the Dems and won't let them back-down from crazy.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:01 PM (aBgBM)

========

Which is increasingly obviously a losing proposition electorally.

2028 Democrat primaries should be hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 05:02 PM (GBKbO)


This morning I read the first graf of an article posted on Insty or RCP, written by a Dem consultant, saying maybe Bernie isn't crazy. Economic populism could be what the Democrats need to campaign on in 2028! I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

260 This.

All the eco-crap is merely a vehicle for leftist agitation, just feminism, BLM, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:10 PM (YqDXo)

Part of our eco-crap is used as leverage / a stick to export our manufacturing to the third world.

"Too many environmental regulations in the US to manufacture stuff there easily. Let's move it to China, they don't care if we dump lithium ion biproducts in to the rivers."

Obviously that causes WAY MORE pollution world wide than manufacturing in the US with reasonable environmental regulations.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (Evo1G)

261 All the eco-crap is merely a vehicle for leftist agitation, just feminism, BLM, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:10 PM (YqDXo)
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As Angela Davis once said to me, "the issue is never the issue. The issue is revolution."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (YqDXo)

262 This puts a smile on my face. Trump is still 54 or 55 days away from inauguration and the changes are already happening.
At the same time, the WH seems to want WWIII with Russia...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)



It's not the White House. It's whoever's running behind the scenes. Kamal is in Hawaii, Biden is in the White House, but nobody's home.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (X4/Jm)

263 I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

Bernie will be about 116 years old by then.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (Evo1G)

264 This morning I read the first graf of an article posted on Insty or RCP, written by a Dem consultant, saying maybe Bernie isn't crazy. Economic populism could be what the Democrats need to campaign on in 2028! I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

How old is Bernie now? In four years, he will be completely fossilized.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 05:13 PM (BsJeO)

265 261 I'll begin taking "the environment" and "climate crisis" seriously the moment the rest of the world begins to DEMAND that China take it seriously.

Until then, I won't toss my litter into the street or into the ocean, but beyond that I don't give a damn about the environment or the climate.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (TN0g+)
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This.

All the eco-crap is merely a vehicle for leftist agitation, just feminism, BLM, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:10 PM (YqDXo
In other words, godless, heathen, death cults.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 05:13 PM (FuCE/)

266 250 I'll begin taking "the environment" and "climate crisis" seriously the moment the rest of the world begins to DEMAND that China take it seriously.

Until then, I won't toss my litter into the street or into the ocean, but beyond that I don't give a damn about the environment or the climate.

Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 05:06 PM (TN0g+)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/
country-rankings/
co2-emissions-by-country

Nature emits quite a bit of CO2. Gaia can't help but be gassy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (ynpvh)

267 As Angela Davis once said to me, "the issue is never the issue. The issue is revolution."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You remember, of course, what they said about 'good communists'.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (WXNFJ)

268 Their labor sucks, and their management is worse. Culturally - they are what they are.

They biggest opposition to a boot-strap "Make America Make Shit Again" program will be where the bosses come from. Mexico and Mexicans ? Not a problem.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 05:10 PM (Ta2ZD)
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My cousin works quality control for a manufacturer of fiber network components which has a plant south of the border. He regularly has to make trips to Mexico to check the factory and make sure things are squared away.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (tT6L1)

269 269 I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

Bernie will be about 116 years old by then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (Evo1G)

__________________________

What about me? I'm still alive. YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAH!!!

Posted by: Howard Dean III at November 26, 2024 05:15 PM (dIske)

270 258 245 Start using tinyurl or some other url-shortening system or I am going to start banning people.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2024 05:04 PM (d9fT1)

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Very understandable. Might I suggest that a link to the Tiny URL site be placed permanently in the sidebar for easy access?

Posted by: Orson at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (dIske)

There are quite a few URL shrinking websites out there. TinyURL has its banned list (I've had quite a few I tried that were rejected).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:15 PM (ynpvh)

271 You remember, of course, what they said about 'good communists'.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (WXNFJ)
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You mean the dead ones?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

272 262 This puts a smile on my face. Trump is still 54 or 55 days away from inauguration and the changes are already happening.
At the same time, the WH seems to want WWIII with Russia...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)



It's not the White House. It's whoever's running behind the scenes. Kamal is in Hawaii, Biden is in the White House, but nobody's home.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 05:12 PM (X4/Jm)

Ah, the "Spirit of Aloha"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (ynpvh)

273 He regularly has to make trips to Mexico to check the factory and make sure things are squared away.
Posted by: blake

But, but, but. . . . all cultures are equivalent. Amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (WXNFJ)

274 I saw someone recently try to argue the famine in China in the 50s, the result of the Great Leap Forward and demonizing their farmers, was because of the US sanctions and tariffs. It's all our privileged fault that China starved. Nothing to do with communism.

I think sometimes I live on a completely different planet than liberals. Seriously.

Posted by: LizLem at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (sAa5Q)

275 It's just such pure hatred, the vindictive spite the Democrats have for helping everyone but Americans.

The "party of the little guy" is the Republican Party now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (X/fWw)

276 270 This morning I read the first graf of an article posted on Insty or RCP, written by a Dem consultant, saying maybe Bernie isn't crazy. Economic populism could be what the Democrats need to campaign on in 2028! I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

How old is Bernie now? In four years, he will be completely fossilized.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 05:13 PM (BsJeO)


Lieawatha Warren is pale, rested, and a few years younger! I think AOC is going to run in '28. Publicly she's been inching a little to the right of Lenin this year.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (aBgBM)

277 This morning I read the first graf of an article posted on Insty or RCP, written by a Dem consultant, saying maybe Bernie isn't crazy. Economic populism could be what the Democrats need to campaign on in 2028! I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)

My sister is a Bernie-bot. She was remarkably quiet all through the campaign and hasn't made a single reference to the election results. I don't think she was sorry to see Kamala go down in flames.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 26, 2024 05:17 PM (LxER7)

278
You can get browser extensions that will do tinyurl and others easily. Just clicky-clacky and it copies a tinyrul right to the clipboard.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 26, 2024 05:17 PM (w6EFb)

279 in the greatest of 'merican traditions, a worker is trying to fix the soda machibe at the restaurant i am currently patronizing by loudly smacking random bits with a hammer

Posted by: anachronda at November 26, 2024 05:17 PM (YKE1t)

280 My cousin works quality control for a manufacturer of fiber network components which has a plant south of the border. He regularly has to make trips to Mexico to check the factory and make sure things are squared away.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (tT6L1)
My neighbor’s company has plants other side of north and south borders and he has to do the same thing.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2024 05:17 PM (FuCE/)

281 267 As Angela Davis once said to me, "the issue is never the issue. The issue is revolution."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You remember, of course, what they said about 'good communists'.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (WXNFJ)

Are these the ones after they've been thrown out a helicopter?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (ynpvh)

282 @220/Soothsayer: "*Do Not Watch* the video I linked above. It will only annoy you."

*looks back and grabs link*
https://is.gd/MuaRka

"Sorry, the link you accessed doesn't exist on our service. Please keep in mind that our shortened links are case sensitive and may contain letters and numbers."

I didn't even get to see it, and I'm annoyed.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (O7YUW)

283 5 year old: Can we get a tiger?
Dad: What? No. What would we feed it?
Son: Filthy commies.
Dad: ...
Son: ...
Dad: I'll think about it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (VNX3d)

284 TBH someone with Bernie's economic policies and "far right" social policies would be very very strong in a national election.

This isn't an endorsement but combining "tax the rich" with "get the trannies out of the schools" gets you 35 state likely.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (oZhjI)

285 "There are quite a few URL shrinking websites out there. "

They are all a PITB.

For something like utoob, you can just post something like say "CAyWN9ba9J8" as the link and the Internet will get you there.

Posted by: fd at November 26, 2024 05:19 PM (vFG9F)

286 273 He regularly has to make trips to Mexico to check the factory and make sure things are squared away.
Posted by: blake

But, but, but. . . . all cultures are equivalent. Amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (WXNFJ)

Like people, only when dead. The Aztec culture is now as good as the Babylonian culture.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:19 PM (ynpvh)

287 @274, Lysenkoism and it's policies killed millions during the cultural revolution. China figured "hey it worked so well in Russia let's do it here"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2024 05:19 PM (FxDm7)

288 a worker is trying to fix the soda machibe at the restaurant i am currently patronizing by loudly smacking random bits with a hammer

Posted by: anachronda at November 26, 2024 05:17 PM (YKE1t)
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Is he the guy that fixes the ice cream machine at McDonalds?

Posted by: Zombie President Joseph R. Biden at November 26, 2024 05:20 PM (krQz2)

289 This isn't an endorsement but combining "tax the rich" with "get the trannies out of the schools" gets you 35 state likely.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (oZhjI)

Funny how taxing the "rich" always ends up by being a burden on the middle class.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 05:20 PM (BsJeO)

290 This morning I read the first graf of an article posted on Insty or RCP, written by a Dem consultant, saying maybe Bernie isn't crazy. Economic populism could be what the Democrats need to campaign on in 2028! I'll take a Bernie vs Vance contest in 4 years.
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2024 05:11 PM (aBgBM)
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That would be hilarious!

Economic populism? They mean like Trump's policies?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:20 PM (YqDXo)

291 "But you will have to pay 25% more for everything you buy!!!"

Oh, you mean like how I pay over 25% more for everything today than I did 4 years ago?

And just what did America get for that 25% "tariff" the Democrats forced on us?

Jack. Diddly. And shit.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 26, 2024 05:20 PM (X/fWw)

292 172 Is it just me or is Claudia Sheinbaum an awfully funny name for the Presidente of Mexico?
Posted by: Cheri

She's pretty Mexican. Her father's name is Carlos, after all. Carlos Sheinbaum Yoselevitz.
Posted by: t-bird
.......................
I didn't know they're were Scottish Presbyterians in Mexico.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 26, 2024 05:20 PM (Qrgy8)

293 274 I saw someone recently try to argue the famine in China in the 50s, the result of the Great Leap Forward and demonizing their farmers, was because of the US sanctions and tariffs. It's all our privileged fault that China starved. Nothing to do with communism.

I think sometimes I live on a completely different planet than liberals. Seriously.

Posted by: LizLem at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (sAa5Q)

Mao was selling the grain to pay for nuclear weapon tech. He didn't care if hundreds of millions of Chinese suffered and died. Add to that the incentive to grow the heaviest crop densities so localities could boast, even if that entire crop was actually lost due to the planting density.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (ynpvh)

294 Bernie Sanders… the Ben-Gay candidate… I remember some riff on him a while like you know he’s got some lint covered peppermint candies in his coat pockets…

Posted by: tubal at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (PCK5/)

295 We could put an additional 5% on Canada and call it the Nickelback Tariff.

They know what they did.

Posted by: Wally at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (mjoFW)

296 81 267 As Angela Davis once said to me, "the issue is never the issue. The issue is revolution."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You remember, of course, what they said about 'good communists'.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:14 PM (WXNFJ)

Are these the ones after they've been thrown out a helicopter?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:18 PM (ynpvh)
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Or brained with an ice ax.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (YqDXo)

297 Let's recall our ambassador from Mexico, and kick the fentanyl ambassador out.

Posted by: Enough BS at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (2NXcZ)

298 Yikes! My hash! Qbert is kinky!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (Qrgy8)

299
@220/Soothsayer: "*Do Not Watch* the video I linked above. It will only annoy you."

*looks back and grabs link*

I didn't even get to see it, and I'm annoyed.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant




https://is.gd/TPcNhJ

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (A7+oG)

300 I am 100% on board with paying more money for vegetables grown and picked in the US by American citizens at normal wages. It would solve so many societal problems.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

In 1976, i recall paying $25 for a pair of Levis on sale). I can buy jeans for less than $10 now. I don't, but I could.
There are American mfrs of denims now. Jeans around $60/pair... about where they should be.
And on, and on... we've gotten so used to buying junk, we've abandoned quality.

Posted by: MkY at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (cPGH3)

301 We could put an additional 5% on Canada and call it the Nickelback Tariff.

They know what they did.
Posted by: Wally at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (mjoFW)

10%, and the Bieber Tariff.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (VNX3d)

302 Funny how taxing the "rich" always ends up by being a burden on the middle class.

Most of the LIVs with some money think they are middle class because they compare themselves to Bezos or Musk and are shocked, shocked to find out they are the people soaked by leftwing economics.

And yes "soak the rich" quickly hits everyone not on welfare BUT...this isn't about the success of leftwing economics - just the voting appeal.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (oZhjI)

303 My hash never changes, ever… odd really.

Posted by: tubal at November 26, 2024 05:23 PM (PCK5/)

304 Mao was selling the grain to pay for nuclear weapon tech. He didn't care if hundreds of millions of Chinese suffered and died. Add to that the incentive to grow the heaviest crop densities so localities could boast, even if that entire crop was actually lost due to the planting density.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (ynpvh)
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That story i was not aware of. I'm still in awe of the "everyone build a backyard smelter and produce steel" plan. Which resulted in every single bit of iron and or steel disappearing from villages so they could meet their quota.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:23 PM (tT6L1)

305 I think World War III just popped off. We've lost XM radio. And it's in a place that it's never happened before.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (X4/Jm)

306 @299/Soothsayer: Thanks.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (O7YUW)

307 10%, and the Bieber Tariff.

Trump should Rush to do that.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (zSyrn)

308 he’s got some lint covered peppermint candies in his coat pockets…

Big blue ones from the men's room.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (Ilcmv)

309 And on, and on... we've gotten so used to buying junk, we've abandoned quality.

This is a problem with online shopping especially.

You don't know if the $10 shirt or the $50 shirt is paper thin chinese crap until you try it on...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (oZhjI)

310 292 birthright citizen

Posted by: Enough BS at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (2NXcZ)

311 For something like utoob, you can just post something like say "CAyWN9ba9J8" as the link and the Internet will get you there.
Posted by: fd at November 26, 2024 05:19 PM (vFG9F)

Ewetoob is easy. Play one of their videos, and a "share" link appears just below that window. Hit "share" and it generates a short url. Copy that url, and paste here. It should be short enough as-is, but you will note it has a question mark about half-way through. Delete the question mark and all the text to the right of it, and the link will work fine, and deny Gurgle some tracking data. Win, win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 05:24 PM (BsJeO)

312 25% in this context is damn sure enough to put certain entities if not entire industries out of business. When profit margins are single digits this would be an apocalyptic wrecking ball. And that's fine by me, but make no mistake.

Also, serious question, why not just threaten the president of Mexico directly? She is a figurehead for a cartel run criminal state. If she's an obstacle to cleaning up the mess then she's no different than Khamenei. Treat her accordingly, like an enemy. If I were Trump I'd openly threaten to simply have her assassinated. Help fix this or SOF knows where you live and we're not fucking around.

Posted by: Tx Jarman at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (ihkjU)

313
It's former actor and former hollywood celery sharon stone "explaining," or cuntsplaining how bad the USA is:

Again, the working link:

https://is.gd/TPcNhJ

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (A7+oG)

314 NOOD Kamala and the Megadonors

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (VNX3d)

315 That story i was not aware of. I'm still in awe of the "everyone build a backyard smelter and produce steel" plan. Which resulted in every single bit of iron and or steel disappearing from villages so they could meet their quota.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:23 PM (tT6L1)
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Steel farm tools converted into useless lumps of iron.

Genius.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (YqDXo)

316 " Start using tinyurl or some other url-shortening system or I am going to start banning people."

Just blank out the post like you do for the 100 comment rule.

People here aren't dumb and I don't think there's a need to get punitive.

Just my $0.02

Posted by: pawn at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (QB+5g)

317 y: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

And what was fallbrook's other main crop...lol

Posted by: Escondido raised at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (xfTc5)

318


NOOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (A7+oG)

319 279 in the greatest of 'merican traditions, a worker is trying to fix the soda machibe at the restaurant i am currently patronizing by loudly smacking random bits with a hammer
Posted by: anachronda
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Get a bigger hammer!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (Qrgy8)

320 Mao was selling the grain to pay for nuclear weapon tech. He didn't care if hundreds of millions of Chinese suffered and died.



That's what happens when you have 1 billion people. You can afford to lose a few.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (X4/Jm)

321 NOOD Harris

Posted by: Ciampino - helicopter parachute? at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (i0xsb)

322 If Mexico and Canada get 25% for their facilitating an invasion of the US, what does China get for creating COVID?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (CwhoI)

323 My hash never changes, ever… odd really.
Posted by: tubal
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So, your hash is settled.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (Dm8we)

324 304 Mao was selling the grain to pay for nuclear weapon tech. He didn't care if hundreds of millions of Chinese suffered and died. Add to that the incentive to grow the heaviest crop densities so localities could boast, even if that entire crop was actually lost due to the planting density.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:21 PM (ynpvh)
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That story i was not aware of. I'm still in awe of the "everyone build a backyard smelter and produce steel" plan. Which resulted in every single bit of iron and or steel disappearing from villages so they could meet their quota.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:23 PM (tT6L1)

And it was all crap.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (ynpvh)

325 Also, serious question, why not just threaten the president of Mexico directly? She is a figurehead for a cartel run criminal state. If she's an obstacle to cleaning up the mess then she's no different than Khamenei. Treat her accordingly, like an enemy. If I were Trump I'd openly threaten to simply have her assassinated. Help fix this or SOF knows where you live and we're not fucking around.

Posted by: Tx Jarman at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (ihkjU)
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Disagree. I think it's better to put economic pressure on Mexico, and not threaten violence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (YqDXo)

326 we've gotten so used to buying junk, we've abandoned quality.

Posted by: MkY at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM

My parents could get 20 years out of a washer & dryer.
20 years out of a refrigerator. 15 years out of a water heater.

I've replaced the washer/dryer, refrigerator, and water heater at least 3 times in 15 years.

Everything is Junk now. Buying the warranty is the most important part of an appliance purchase anymore.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (+oR7L)

327 NOOD Harris
Posted by: Ciampino - helicopter parachute? at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (i0xsb)
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I'm not sure that's quite the draw you think it is.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 26, 2024 05:27 PM (tT6L1)

328 Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

And what was fallbrook's other main crop...lol

Posted by: Escondido raised at November 26, 2024 05:25 PM (xfTc5)
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Gophers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 05:27 PM (YqDXo)

329 But, but, but. . . . all cultures are equivalent. Amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2024 05:16 PM (WXNFJ)

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We occasionally participate in a Celtic Night dinner at a neighbor and former teacher's home who's really into preserving that culture -- and unsurprisingly most attendees are conservative (the host himself has even run unsuccessfully for local offices a couple of times as an R).

Anywho, last Saturday we were discussing how European culture was disappearing owing to the invasion of the Muslim hordes (where I pointed out that the most popular baby name over the past decade has been Mohammed) -- and one apparently #Woke (old enough to be retired) Woman started having a meltdown and had to call a time out because we were being so "racist" (by merely pointing out facts).

Same as it ever was ... Ad Hominem attacks are all they've got.

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 05:27 PM (M8pNi)

330 NOOD Harris
Posted by: Ciampino - helicopter parachute? at November 26, 2024 05:26 PM (i0xsb)

She's on Only Fans, now. eeeeew!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2024 05:28 PM (BsJeO)

331 "Why 25%? Why not 100%? Or 200%?

I think I know the answer. If Trump announces such a high tariff penalty that Canada and Mexico don't think he'll actually go through with it -- because it would cause financial and economic disruption inside the US -- then they might call his bluff."

I think 25% is PLENTY enough to "cause financial and economic disruption inside the US." Tariffs are a bad idea.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at November 26, 2024 05:33 PM (tEoZM)

332 216 The avocado cartel is fueled by the insatiable American demand for guacamole.

whack-a-mole > guacamole

Posted by: anachronda at November 26, 2024 05:39 PM (YKE1t)

333 178 171 I'm hoping the next round of warnings will be sent to the UK regarding freedom of speech, expression, press, etc.
Posted by: Crusader at November 26, 2024 04:50 PM (TN0g+)

========

End American involvement in Five Eyes.

End American involvement in NATO.

Kick the UN out of the US.

Refocus on the Western Hemisphere and let the spiritual successors to the dynasties that sent Europe into WWI work out their own issues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 26, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)
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This precisely. Less Marshall Plan, more Monroe Doctrine.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 26, 2024 05:42 PM (QdGJh)

334 y: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2024 04:37 PM (YqDXo)

not what I remembered, it was more a surfer related agricultural item, or so I was told...mumble, mumble mumble years ago

Posted by: Escondido raised at November 26, 2024 05:42 PM (xfTc5)

335 China was approached to aim a billion Chinese into the heart of the USSR, in case of the Cold War going Hot. Pure and simple. Case closed.

Its not like the fuckers were exactly aligned with us. FDR was very curious about the ChiComs. After propping them up against the Nippon ? The couldn't drop us soon enough.

They don't hate us because they don't know us. They hate us because they do.
Posted by: How It Is at November 26, 2024 05:05 PM (Ta2ZD)

The USSR was dead and gone before we got cozy with China. In the cold war the idea was to divide the two.

The 1990s were when it became trendy to give tech to China to build there. Saved them a few bucks, got pictures in the trade magazines. Then the Chinese stole their products and built them themselves and ran them out of business. By then the original whiz kid smart guys were retired.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 26, 2024 05:43 PM (n7h9X)

336 I think 25% is PLENTY enough to "cause financial and economic disruption inside the US." Tariffs are a bad idea.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Vigor at November 26, 2024 05:33 PM (tEoZM)

Nobody uses that many maple syrup jugs and sombreros.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 26, 2024 05:44 PM (n7h9X)

337 This also means the price of Chihuahuas will increase by 25 %...

OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Franklin Stein at November 26, 2024 05:45 PM (VDY1a)

338 Anywho, last Saturday we were discussing how European culture was disappearing owing to the invasion of the Muslim hordes (where I pointed out that the most popular baby name over the past decade has been Mohammed) -- and one apparently #Woke (old enough to be retired) Woman started having a meltdown and had to call a time out because we were being so "racist" (by merely pointing out facts).

Same as it ever was ... Ad Hominem attacks are all they've got.
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 26, 2024 05:27 PM (M8pNi)

Muslims aren't a different race, not until you get to Indonesia or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 26, 2024 05:45 PM (n7h9X)

339 ...he is willing to go to jail and I am willing to put him there."


Friggin' best sound bite EVAH!!!
Posted by: Diogenes

Make sure that he is in a cell block with some of Tren de Aragua's finest.

Posted by: Cheri at November 26, 2024 05:46 PM (oiNtH)

340 This also means the price of Chihuahuas will increase by 25 %...

OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Franklin Stein at November 26, 2024 05:45 PM (VDY1a)

American know how will make 6 foot at teh shoulder riding battle Chihuahuas to fill the gap.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 26, 2024 05:47 PM (n7h9X)

341 Every day is like the 4th of July and Christmas with a 24 hour Shadenboner thrown in just for the hell of it...

Posted by: CrookedRecords at November 26, 2024 05:48 PM (mIKTs)

342 I live in Frederick County. I hope they recall the mayor and make an example of him.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 26, 2024 05:49 PM (lXCUP)

343 Funny how taxing the "rich" always ends up by being a burden on the middle class.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2024 05:22 PM (oZhjI)

It always is, wealth distribution is a bell curve. To get any reliable money out, you have to reach down to get the middle of the curve in and paying.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 26, 2024 05:51 PM (n7h9X)

344 The issue about the tariff is not about the inflation. The issue is that both Mexico and Canada are being encouraged to resist resist the tariff and keep stuffing terrorists, criminals, and Foreign Armies through our open borders. The cartels rounded up 50 children they own to make it seem as if only children seeking parents are crossing that border.
Remember Laken Riley if you are that easily persuaded, or the 12 year-old girl that got gang-raped for two hours by Susan Rice's finest.

Posted by: wferrin at November 26, 2024 06:17 PM (LtnBk)

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