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DOJ and FBI Government-Weaponizers Now Contacting Lawyers In Anticipation of Being Investigated or Even Prosecuted for Their Crimes

NBC Fake News is sad that their fellow conspirators are facing the same music they've played for nine years!


Multiple current and former senior Justice Department and FBI officials have begun reaching out to lawyers in anticipation of being criminally investigated by the Trump administration, according to three people with knowledge of their deliberations.

Following Trump's decisive election victory, many Justice Department officials and career staffers were already nervous about the possibility that they would be targeted by Trump loyalists, particularly members of Congress. But the selection of former Rep. Matt Gaetz, a firebrand Trump ally who was the subject of a recent FBI investigation, to lead the department has sharply increased the sense of alarm, the sources said.

"Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of becoming even more of a target, doesn't believe any attempt to prosecute him will be successful. Judges and juries have the power to throw out cases or find defendants innocent if they deem prosecutions to be baseless.

But like many other current and former Justice Department officials, he is bracing for a potentially long and costly legal battle, as well as the possibility of protracted congressional investigations, after Trump takes office in January.

Career FBI employees are especially vulnerable, the official added. Since they make less money than they would in the private sector, they rely on the pensions they receive after 20 years.

"Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."

A former senior Justice Department official who served during Trump's first term said he, too, saw Gaetz's nomination as a sign of the seriousness of the president-elect's vow to exact revenge on those who investigated him.

"He needs to be able to control the department, which he can do through a loyal AG beholden to him," the former Justice Department official said.

That's probably Andrew McCabe, the disgraced, perjurious Deep State fixer who attempted to frame Trump. He works at NBC, but NBC knows his opinion cuts little ice with anyone outside of NBC, so they grant him a very silly anonymity.

And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.

via David Strom, who adds:

FBI officials committed perjury, lied to the FISA Court, hid evidence of crimes, persecuted Trump's allies, invaded the former president's home, invented cases, and, in one case, left the Justice Department to lead the prosecution of Trump in New York. The FBI opened an investigation based on the Steele Dossier, which they knew to be a hoax.

These people must be prosecuted for their crimes. The alternative is to turn the Justice Department and the three letter agencies into even more of a Stasi than it already is, weaponized against the American people.

By the way, the writer of this propaganda is "Fusion Ken" Dilanian, one of Russiagate's most fervent hoaxers. He has James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzock and the rest of the Russiagate Criminal Organization on speed-dial.

Posted by: Ace at 02:33 PM




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Posted by: Jordan61 at November 18, 2024 02:33 PM (DRSnL)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at November 18, 2024 02:33 PM (GYt5+)

3 I don't understand.

If you haven't done anything wrong, you've got nothing to fear from a Government Enema.

Right?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (aYubz)

4 Gray

Posted by: Rex B at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (OnhE9)

5 Good, they are learning fear.

Posted by: Bete at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (LX4y3)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

7 We're grays!!! We're greys, man.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

8 Hang the lawyers first.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (Q4IgG)

9 Can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (rJ48h)

10 Good

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (YbbtK)

11 Looks kinda gh(r)ey in here

Posted by: Doof at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (jgdZo)

12 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."


Lying sack of shit........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

13 Good, they are learning fear.
Posted by: Bete at November 18, 2024 02:34 PM (LX4y3)

Baby steps. The goal should be abject terror in the Deep State.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (VNX3d)

14 No more grey.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

15 So, I can't make a grey-box hotel joke now??

You're no fun any more!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (hovnC)

16 And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.


When did he drop the pine scent?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

17
The charge: Treason.

The penalty: You know the penalty, traitor.

Posted by: Auspex at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (j4U/Z)

18 And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.

“The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine”

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)

19 I'm leaning toward this being a performative as all the screaming women on TikTok.

They're just trying to get pity from the weak-minded.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (hB7mE)

20 Sur-prize, Sur-prize, Sur-prize …

Posted by: Gomer Pyle, USMC at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (TX4bP)

21 The witch Kathy Hochul announcing a new $9 a day congestion charge for driving in NYC says the tax would have been $15 so they are saving commuters $1500 a year.....
Posted by: steevy

You're too good to us, Kathy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (L/fGl)

22 Fear of losing, and losing money has a way of occupying one's mind. So sadz. May they all go broke.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (ohOaC)

23 James Comey was the idiot who tried to hide behind the drapes in the WH, right?

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (DJ7uY)

24 Obama thought he was going to have 6 terms in office via the intell/doj/media apparatus. Trump has likely broken Obama’s influence forever.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (7PziG)

25 Any defense lawyer who takes these cases needs to be investigated for disbarment. That's the standard we're operating under, right?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (5IFb9)

26 Multiple current and former senior Justice Department and FBI officials have begun reaching out to lawyers

Make sure they're familiar with the military's system. And dress light.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (LbnIB)

27 The more they professed their innocence, the quicker I counted the silver.

Or something close to that.

Posted by: 496 at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (DjC9c)

28 A former senior Justice Department official who served during Trump's first term said he, too, saw Gaetz's nomination as a sign of the seriousness of the president-elect's vow to exact revenge on those who investigated him.
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Investigated; framed.

Potato; potato.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:37 PM (hovnC)

29 Let the Great Cleansing begin!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (fs1hN)

30 Biggest hurdle to any of this will be finding a basis for bringing charges outside of DC.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (Dm8we)

31 > "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."
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If "everything you did was aboveboard" then why are you sweating it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (Q4IgG)

32

Put a maple ayrup tap in comes head tdrainthe sap

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (3QQVI)

33 Oooh the gray is back.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (DRSnL)

34 We're grays again! We're greys......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

35 And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.


When did he drop the pine scent?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

When he got hit with the maple (syrup) and turned to ash? The Birch baseball bat made an impression.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (VNX3d)

36 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself.

So "aboveboard" means blatantly partisan, political, and vindictively petty?

Posted by: Doof at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (jgdZo)

37 16 And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.


When did he drop the pine scent?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

--------

Don't want to smell like the great outdoors in stir.

Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (7aNV1)

38 I vote gray!

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (ohOaC)

39 No one is above the law, I've heard.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (hovnC)

40 But like many other current and former Justice Department officials, he is bracing for a potentially long and costly legal battle, as well as the possibility of protracted congressional investigations, after Trump takes office in January.


Yesss! Hail Trump!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (aD39U)

41 This is the Seinfeld bit I mentioned in the last thread.

https://youtu.be/IrLtHatB6IU?si=xJojtRUan57AQqV9

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (YbbtK)

42 This is the area I fear Trump will not be strong on. I fear he'll "take the high road" and avoid prosecuting their crimes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (Hh1ER)

43 Boxes Grey Boxes Grey Boxes

Posted by: XTC at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (UnA8+)

44 I've seen suggestions on Instagram that Trump is appomting Kash Patel as FBI director
I don't know if that's true but I wonder if he has to fire Criminal Christopher Wray first.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (kTd/k)

45 Put a maple ayrup tap in comes head tdrainthe sap

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (3QQVI)



Woah. You OK man?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

46 I vote gray!
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (ohOaC)

=====

Seconded!

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (DRSnL)

47 it comes from company ken dilanian, but I'll take it,

Stephen Gillers the legal ethicist, I mean mark has to jump in

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (pGTZo)

48 PROSECUTE THE LAWYERS THAT TAKE THEIR CALLS.

That's the way they played with Trump. That's what you do to them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (N1DT3)

49 Turning worms churn. Good Times.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (jFCkp)

50 I don't care if they get convicted. Draining their financial resources is a pretty good mark to hit.

Posted by: DanMan at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (8uzBS)

51 Take a can of spray-paint and rename the FBI building after Richard Jewell.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (rJ48h)

52 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official

-
And approved by the mainstream media!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (L/fGl)

53 Paul Sperry @paulsperry_ Nov 12
BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (hovnC)

54 Shouldn't they be fleeing to Argentina.
Scratch Argentina... Bolivia?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (/lPRQ)

55 >>>3 I don't understand.
If you haven't done anything wrong, you've got nothing to fear from a Government Enema.
Right?


That is the rule that I understood. I also heard that accusing the AG of partisan score-settling undermines the foundations of our precious Republic.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)

56 I like the "everything we did was above board" quote.

Uh, no, it wasn't, even to the casual eye, and you know it.

Those idiots never stopped to think, "What happens if Trump triumphs again?"

Seriously stupid people. No exit plan, not even enough of a survival instinct to think, just maybe, this is a bad idea because of the potential consequences.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (tT6L1)

57 @paulsperry_ Nov 12
BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (hovnC)



Make Treason a Crime Again

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

58 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself.
===================
Especially the fake Whitmer kidnap plot, the pipe bombs, the J6 provocations, the 5 am SWAT raids on elderly anti-abortion activists, the Russia! fakery, and the whole Biden non-investigations (not to mention the active conspiracy to suppress evidence of crimes). And then there is the whole set-up the President of the United States for a coup attempt.

Yeah, all that was above-board.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (g3UVU)

59 Shouldn't they be fleeing to Argentina.
Scratch Argentina... Bolivia?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (/lPRQ)

They might be celebrated in Cuba or Venezuela. For at least a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (VNX3d)

60 Criminal investigations are pointless. They will get bogged down for years and we'll get nothing but gag orders, "can't comment on an ongoing investigation", suppression of information disclosure because it might "taint the jury pool". And unless you can have a trial out side of DC, there is zero chance of any convictions with a DC jury.

Much better to simply expose what they did. Publish every communication these federal employees ever generated (and feed it all into an AI that the public can provide prompts to).

Destroy their credibility and their reputations with sunlight. That will be far more politically effective.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (V6W16)

61 If the rumors are true and Kash Patel becomes the FBI Director things could get very interesting.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (LkLld)

62 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official

Yeah, it was obvious to us, too.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (LbnIB)

63 yes and you need the new atty general to do it

sources say, Trump will use the federal vacancies to intall Gaetz, if they don't confitm him outright,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 02:41 PM (pGTZo)

64 >>>"Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."

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Yes, that is why deprevation of civil rights is so insidious and those convicted should never see the light of another day.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (/lPRQ)

65 Afternoon.

Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.

https://tinyurl.com/5vfa9jv6

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (I/RrQ)

66 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself.

"Everything we did was perfectly legal, which is why I need a lawyer. And a ticket to a non extradition country."

Got it

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (Hh1ER)

67
Let's hope the "Let's make a deal" rat line their lawyers will build for framing JD coworkers stretches from downtown DC to Arlington.

Posted by: Auspex at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (j4U/Z)

68 PROSECUTE THE LAWYERS THAT TAKE THEIR CALLS.

That's the way they played with Trump. That's what you do to them.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (N1DT3)

Raid their fucking offices, seize their attorney client communications.

Fuck them all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (i24o9)

69 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)

70 Oh, the delicious irony of the "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about" crowd now worrying.

Posted by: pookysgirl just has a few questions for you down at the station at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (dtlDP)

71 "Everything we did was perfectly legal, which is why I need a lawyer. And a ticket to a non extradition country."

Got it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (Hh1ER)

=====

And to stay employed until I get my pension.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (DRSnL)

72 69 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.
--------------------
The VA district court is where you want to go. Shit happens there.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (jFCkp)

73 I'm still agog at the "everything we did was above board" quote.

Freaking write a targeted law drafting every single bad actor into the military, charge them with treason and put them in front of a tribunal.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (tT6L1)

74 >>Destroy their credibility and their reputations with sunlight. That will be far more politically effective.

I'm fine with doing both. There used to be a very popular phrase around here, the process is the punishment. Long, extended lawsuits with high priced attorneys can get very expensive.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (LkLld)

75 Remember, the process is the punishment.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (0m81F)

76 Confucius Say: The wise man’s shadow casts light upon the ignorant.

Posted by: Gentleman Jim Comey at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (6QbOL)

77 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."


Ok, good. That means that the next Admin can come in a read all the emails and internal memos concerning same, yes?

Posted by: MkY at November 18, 2024 02:43 PM (+Pp+Q)

78 Those idiots never stopped to think, "What happens if Trump triumphs again?"

Seriously stupid people. No exit plan, not even enough of a survival instinct to think, just maybe, this is a bad idea because of the potential consequences.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 18, 2024 02:40 PM (tT6L1)
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A quibble - they shouldn't judge their actions by whether Trump will win. They ought to be assessing in terms of right and wrong!

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but imagine if they used that old-fashioned test of right v wrong in their daily lives. Trump wouldn't have even been necessary.

Posted by: 496 at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (DjC9c)

79 Nov 12
BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:40
****
He has to flee to Russia! to avoid extradition.

Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (0Gnoc)

80 I'm very pleased to think that not only couldn't Strock and his jack squat, or whatever, band of partisans stop Trump from being elected once.

They let it happen twice.

🤣😂🤣😂

Posted by: Just Lily at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (7aNV1)

81 Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 4h
Mark Zaid is the latest to confirm former and current operatives in DOJ/natsec space are lawyering up in advance of Trump administration. Zaid, a longtime Dem dirty operative, is even advising those high on the hit list to leave the country—and seek mental health help.
Nov 18, 2024 · 2:46 PM UTC

https://tinyurl.com/43hmatrt
screencap

Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 4h
One thing to watch — Do Jack Smith and David Harbach, one of his lead prosecutors in documents case, return to The Hague before Inauguration Day? Seems like both need a warning from Congressional Republicans not to flee the country.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:45 PM (hovnC)

82 Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.

LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:45 PM (Hh1ER)

83
How many non-extradition countries are there? If I'd hazard a guess, none is a paradise. Like, Lewisburg would be better.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2024 02:45 PM (dxSpM)

84 I want to see FBI pre-dawn raids and bankruptcies among this crowd.

For 4 years.

Posted by: Jay in PA at November 18, 2024 02:45 PM (i7Q7S)

85 *gazes down upon DC*

Fear... The city is rank with it.

Posted by: Gothmog, Orc Commander at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (dtlDP)

86 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."


Lying sack of shit........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

He didn't say what they did was *legal*. They just did their criminal conspiracy without concealing it.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (n7h9X)

87 ‘In the spring the flowers will bloom and the birds will sing, but you will not enjoy any of that. Because I will hang you in the morning.’
- something Judge Roy Bean probably said

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (Z1jJH)

88 Jack Poso @JackPosobiec 4h
Look at this

Now the CIA’s man at WaPo David Ignatius is on Morning Joe urging Trump not to pick @TulsiGabbard

David is *terrified* Tulsi will declassify who illegally leaked Gen Flynn’s name to him in 2017

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (hovnC)

89
He has to flee to Russia! to avoid extradition.
Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (0Gnoc)

_________

Traveling tip: stay off balconies in Russia.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (dxSpM)

90 NY Post: Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, outspoken critic of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, falls 60 feet to his death

https://tinyurl.com/2s7y84s9

That moment when rehearsals for Swan Lake go horribly wrong.

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (I/RrQ)

91 >>He has to flee to Russia! to avoid extradition.

Send him to Ukraine. That's where he helped develop the Ukraine phone call hoax. He has lots of contacts there because he was Biden's point person on Ukraine when Biden was helping run the place and Hunter was making bank.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (LkLld)

92 BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie
Posted by: andycanuck


Spec Ops guys are going to love this.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2024 02:46 PM (IG4Id)

93 Confucius Say: Only in the fart clouds of the persecuted, can one smell true enlightenment.

Posted by: Gentleman Jim Comey at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (6QbOL)

94 A quibble - they shouldn't judge their actions by whether Trump will win. They ought to be assessing in terms of right and wrong!

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but imagine if they used that old-fashioned test of right v wrong in their daily lives. Trump wouldn't have even been necessary.
Posted by: 496 at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (DjC9c)
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I get your quibble and agree right and wrong should be the basic premise. But, we're so far beyond that rather quaint concept one needs to wonder at the true lack of survival skills these people exhibit. Right and wrong obviously don't matter to them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (tT6L1)

95 Trump should ask Director Wray for a list of suitable candidates for Attorney General. Then when Trump is sworn in have them all arrested.

Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (0Gnoc)

96 BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:40
****
He has to flee to Russia! to avoid extradition.
Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (0Gnoc)

I'm sure Russia would give him right back.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (n7h9X)

97 Pretty good one, Robert!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (gfViB)

98
The more they spoke of their honor, the faster they booked their tickets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (dxSpM)

99 I've seen suggestions on Instagram that Trump is appomting Kash Patel as FBI director
I don't know if that's true


No mention of it yet on Trump's Truth account. But he's not even awake yet, only three posts so far today.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (+9G3c)

100 "Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."


Not a true statement. They are covered under FERS just like all other federal employees hired after 1984. They can retire after 10 years and fib agents get LEO credits to pump up their final retirement checks.


While their checks won't be as big as if they had stayed around for 20 years, they will still get a retirement check and get to keep their platinum level health insurance coverage as well. They also have had the opportunity to get matching TSP (401k) $$$ from day one after their probation period. That match adds up quick.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (QNSds)

101 Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.

LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:45 PM (Hh1ER)

Yes, this is legit hilarious. It's like a Monty Python sketch made flesh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 02:48 PM (7oYYI)

102 Confucius Say: Only in the fart clouds of the persecuted, can one smell true enlightenment.
Posted by: Gentleman Jim Comey at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (6QbOL)




This is about me, isn't it......

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at November 18, 2024 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

103 I hate to say this, but I'd sorta' like to see the lawyers fleece the shit out of some of these assholes that will most certainly not be put in prison. Make shit tons of money off them. Rob them blind.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 18, 2024 02:48 PM (Q4IgG)

104 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself


Then you have no worries.

Why would you be prosecuted if everything was aboveboard??

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 02:48 PM (tY81A)

105 BREAKING: Sources say Democrat D.C. lawyer Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump. Ciaramella has been working for Carnegie
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:40
****
He has to flee to Russia! to avoid extradition.
Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2024 02:44 PM (0Gnoc)

I'm sure Russia would give him right back.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 02:47 PM (n7h9X)

In this case, Trump might only have to give an autographed football from Patrick Mahomes in exchange.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:48 PM (VNX3d)

106 >>I've seen suggestions on Instagram that Trump is appomting Kash Patel as FBI director
I don't know if that's true

Bannon announced it on his show this morning but I haven't seen any confirmation.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (LkLld)

107 They murdered a ballet dancer? Ugh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (7oYYI)

108 Can we put Rudy Giuliani in charge of prosecuting them?

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (YbbtK)

109 Crush them and their families with the process then, convict them for crimes against the USA. Trap door, rope, etc.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)

110 Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, outspoken critic of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, falls 60 feet to his death

Yeah this is why I don't like either side in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Putin is a gangster, a mobbed up monster. He's a horrible sawed-off tyrant. He's an awful murdering dictator who nobody should admire. But that doesn't make Ukraine any less corrupt and sleazy.

Mark Zaid has advised his client Eric Ciaramella, the first impeachment "whistleblower," to leave the country beginning Jan. 20, 2025, to avoid possible "retaliation" by incoming President Trump.

And by "retaliation" he means "legal action for lying under oath and perjuring himself."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (Hh1ER)

111 There is that lame argument that they make less than the private sector. I know someone who worked for govt for 30 years and has been on their lavish pension for 33 years so how is it they get paid less?

Posted by: Gomjabber at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (HBB9b)

112 I always ask my leftist friends (those that remain of course) what they would say if they were in the other side of these last 9 years..
From "Russian collusion", "pee tapes", the JAILING of political opponents, the COVID fascism that literally crippled the economy, the blatant attack on free speech etc...

Nothing

"A right-wing Christian national movement!!!" is all I hear.. sigh

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (61TgR)

113 I hate to say this, but I'd sorta' like to see the lawyers fleece the shit out of some of these assholes that will most certainly not be put in prison. Make shit tons of money off them. Rob them blind.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Let Avenatti out of stir and reinstate his law license.

Posted by: Bulg at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (v6JzV)

114 It is only revenge when the person seeking it has been done wrong.

So. There's an admission against interest.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (qs1zS)

115 > "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."

Sending honeypot agents to entrap a sitting POTUS is aboveboard? Ignoring Hunter's laptop completely is aboveboard? Taking orders from the Teachers Union to investigate parents who peacefully speak out about tranny madness at school meetings as TERRORISTS is aboveboard?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (Odg76)

116 Yes, this is legit hilarious. It's like a Monty Python sketch made flesh.

Reasonably sure its AI but still, it makes the point very well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (Hh1ER)

117 Frank Figliuzzi @FrankFigliuzzi1 3h
The FBI wears many hats in a community. Among its long list of duties, the Bureau trains police officers, educates kids about cyber dangers, dismantles gangs, infiltrates drug networks, arrests corrupt officials, identifies terrorist cells, and catches spies.

But that could change soon. Trump advisors have publicly stated they want the FBI to be run by Trump and they see nothing wrong with a president overseeing case openings and closings. The potential for abuse of power is significant.

capitolhunters @capitolhunters 3h
@FrankFigliuzzi1 the FBI is a key question before the nation. Trump clearly seeks to destroy the military, DOJ, and FBI. Making the FBI director a political appointment was explicitly written in Project 2025. MAGAts are cheering for the FBI to be destroyed. How to protect it?
1 of 2

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (hovnC)

118 How many tears did they shed for Tara Reade, going to Russia to escape the Biden administration?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (gfViB)

119 Dr. PJ Eckleberg, O.D.👓, MAGA @zinemagilea 3h
These awful people that encouraged snitching on your children, parents, brothers and sisters and spent thousands of man hours trying to sic the corrupt FBI on American citizens are now panicking because Trump is threatening to gut and fix the corruption in the agency.

They really do deserve being criminally tried for their behavior.

Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 3h
You seem scared. And you should be.

2 of 2

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (hovnC)

120 Exactly AtC

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (YbbtK)

121 69 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)

Exactly what I was going to say. Just look at the Durham trials. Let them have early morning raids and Scott Jennings explain to them how that's been standard procedure for years and nobody cared until now.

Posted by: ryukyu at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (z/gEl)

122 Investigated, prosecuted, and executed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (RIvkX)

123 Impoverish them.

Starve them.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (fV+MH)

124 I always ask my leftist friends (those that remain of course) what they would say if they were in the other side of these last 9 years

It was all okay because their political opponents are subhuman fascists. And anything you do to a fascist is okay. That is literally the mindset.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (Hh1ER)

125 Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."
===
Everything we did was completely overboard, said former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted for his crimes. "We thought we'd never be held responsible, but this is a different world now. A world where the law also applies to us. *sniffles and blubbering *

Posted by: Universal Translator at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (hRBiq)

126
Schadenboner Status: Erectile Inunction!

NORMZZZZ Status: Deplored!

Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (jaAv+)

127 Steve Bannon needs a position in Trump's administration.

Revenge and Retribution Czar would be cool.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (Q4IgG)

128 ah Franly Fig, what we do without you,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (pGTZo)

129 All above-board?

How about we let a special court in North Texas decide all that. General Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Michael Caputo, Peter Navarro and John Eastman will be interested observers. The J6ers will have to watch remotely, since there are so many of them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (C8wQA)

130 Impoverish them.

Starve them.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (fV+MH)

Strip their pensions.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (VNX3d)

131 I want agents who participated in armed raids on people guilty about praying in the general vicinity of abortion clinics to be fired. They should not be allowed to claim they were only following orders.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (kTd/k)

132 They will have to move the trials out of DC somehow.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (elaR+)

133 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)

Then don't prosecute them there.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (n7h9X)

134 Well, as the dems in PA say, precedent in a court doesn't matter anymore as people violate the law all the time.
So apparently everything is now off the table.
OK then.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (W/lyH)

135 But that could change soon. Trump advisors have publicly stated they want the FBI to be run by Trump and they see nothing wrong with a president overseeing case openings and closings. The potential for abuse of power is significant.

This idea that the Department of Justice is somehow not a part of the executive branch of the government and that the president of the united states is somehow not their boss baffles me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (Hh1ER)

136 The Woodchipper of Justice is going to be quite busy these next four years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (XV/Pl)

137 The phoney mirage that the DOJ/FBI are not political is bigly damaging this country. The DoJ is not, and has never been, independent. All that means is the permanent power of the leftists inside the department.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (7PziG)

138 #119 addendum:

Olivia1999 @Mimi202215 3h Replying to @capitolhunters @FrankFigliuzzi1
The hunters becoming the hunted.

I can't wait to see all of you held responsible for what you've done in the past four years.

MK Ultra @4nohitters
🤣😂🤡 This will be beautiful, Kash and Gaetz flushing the filth at DOJ/FBI and making it all public. A naming and shaming of the feds in the crowd at Jan 6 will be a good start. Btw, despite what Mitch thinks, they'll be in as recess appts on 1/21, eventual confirmatin in 2 yrs.

🐎 Stable Genius @StableGeniustm
You ok bro?? Have you lawyered up yet??

VK @vjeannek
REJOICE
Looks like Loudermilk will finally crack this case
Is lying to Congress a crime?
Yes it is

Quote tweet: John Solomon @jsolomonReports Nov 14
J6 Shocker: Phone companies dispute FBI testimony on pipe bombs suspect, key lawmaker reveals justthenews.com/government/

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (hovnC)

139 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)


Have they tried street justice?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (W/lyH)

140 Oh and even though Trump won, I want a FULL AUDIT of this last election

Looking at you AZ, PA

This shit has to end

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (61TgR)

141 133 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)

Then don't prosecute them there.
---------------
Precisely. Just allege a wiff of collusion between DC District Courts and, viola, the case moves to another moar American District Court.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (jFCkp)

142 Why have I been banned?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (JvtuU)

143 Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.
https://tinyurl.com/5vfa9jv6
Posted by: Robert


That ending is so funny. Is that an actual human? He seems mis-shapen, like ChatGPT constructing a Brit from dental records.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (LbnIB)

144 So, for those following along the math follies of last thread, I figured out how the little rascal did all the work in his head (and just made an arithmetic error).

He recognized a meta-relationship that I did not immediately see, which allowed his skipping all the set up and manipulation of equations to get to the point that he intuitively recognized.

Scary. Like being on another plane of thought. THAT is what I am looking to develop.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (i24o9)

145
This idea that the Department of Justice is somehow not a part of the executive branch of the government and that the president of the united states is somehow not their boss baffles me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:53 PM (Hh1ER)



They've been getting away with their treason for so long, it's now habit and they don't know any better.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

146 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official who has started contacting lawyers because he expects to be prosecuted himself. "But this is a different world."

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of becoming even more of a target, doesn't believe any attempt to prosecute him will be successful.


Yet they're contacting lawyers, as one does when one knows one is innocent.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (xCA6C)

147 Confucius Say: Judge a man not by the number popular votes, but by the strength of his respect within the upper levels of the intelligence community who all know he never lied, he did nothing wrong, and you wouldn't be able to prove anything anyway so back off.

Posted by: Gentleman Jim Comey at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (6QbOL)

148 You have to look at this logically. They are doing this to secure legal advice on what they can and can't obfuscate. What documentation can be destroyed. What can be "misfiled". What has to remain available.

I'd recommend to pre-cursory efforts on Trump's part.
1. Hammer home an a daily basis that all information and documentation must remain whole.
2. Also, focus on the FOIA staff. They held back many legally requested items. They over redacted requests...and they were getting instructions to do so. So start with them, and get them in a bind so they have to cooperate or face criminal charges.

Additionally, any attorney without the proper clearances advising on discarding pertinent and protected documentation now becomes a witness, and potentially a suspect of any related wrongdoing.

Posted by: Orson at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (dIske)

149 Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (I/RrQ)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (3Ope8)

150 some of these people probably think they can pull all the crap they pulled in late 2016 and 2017. just a question of who they try to frame first. someone should tell tulsi about what happened to flynn

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (CWTWj)

151 And the "former FBI official" is probably Druidic Tree Philosopher James "Fast Jimmy" Comey.

----------------

That's Redwood Pine-Scented Druidic Tree Philosopher to you, bub ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (jaAv+)

152 If they're innocent they have nothing to worry about. Right?...Right?

Posted by: look whats not at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (nakGR)

153 Yes, this is legit hilarious. It's like a Monty Python sketch made flesh.

Reasonably sure its AI but still, it makes the point very well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:50 PM (Hh1ER)

S. Pineless -> Spineless.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (n7h9X)

154 Oops, maybe not.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (JvtuU)

155 Why have I been banned?
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (JvtuU)



Are you using a VPN? Change servers for a new IP and see if that helps.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

156 Strip their pensions.

This is key. If you violate your job and abuse power NO PENSION.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (Hh1ER)

157 Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.
https://tinyurl.com/5vfa9jv6
Posted by: Robert

That ending is so funny. Is that an actual human? He seems mis-shapen, like ChatGPT constructing a Brit from dental records.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (LbnIB)

Spoiler Alert: I suspected it was a skit throughout (or at least a clever edit). Until the end.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (i24o9)

158 "Revenge and Retribution Czar would be cool.
Posted by: Martini Farmer:

Boner.


But I "Justice Czar" would be more apt.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (fV+MH)

159 The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of becoming even more of a target, doesn't believe any attempt to prosecute him will be successful. Judges and juries have the power to throw out cases or find defendants innocent if they deem prosecutions to be baseless.

Ah, the Bat Signal to potential DC juries.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (xCA6C)

160 Keep pretending the way to fix it is to “reform” or “clean out the bad guys.” That’ll work. /s

The only way to fix it is to end it. More tweaks only mean more of it. But we gotta have counterintel, or the ability to prosecute across state lines? Hell, put a huge bounty on spies and on interstate criminals and it’ll work as well as the billions we spend on this shitty powergrabbing bureaucracy.

Posted by: Yon Yonson at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (vjYCJ)

161 I repeat. It's all just an idle threat unless any charges are brought outside DC. Or New York. Or countless other federal districts where there is virtually zero chance of getting conviction.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (Dm8we)

162 Impoverish them.

Starve them.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:51 PM (fV+MH)

Strip their pensions.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM


Whack their pee-pees.

Posted by: Baliff at November 18, 2024 02:56 PM (TTO0Z)

163 90 NY Post: Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, outspoken critic of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, falls 60 feet to his death.

Nothing here implicates Putin, who is a genius and looks fabulous riding horses while shirtless.

Posted by: Auspex at November 18, 2024 02:56 PM (j4U/Z)

164 Funny how even the FBI knows you don't talk to the FBI without a lawyer present.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:56 PM (Zz0t1)

165 "Above board" has got to be the biggest guiltphrase going.

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 02:56 PM (6QbOL)

166 Strip their pensions.

This is key. If you violate your job and abuse power NO PENSION.


I spend a lot of time on here defending underpaid Feds who do no wrong. F*** these guys.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (xCA6C)

167 oops "I think"

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (fV+MH)

168 OT: The word has gone out to the terminally online delusional left: "tariff" in the new scare word

I've seen it pointed out on social media the proliferation of "Trump's tariffs are going to kill us all" comments on non-political accounts. I looked around and saw a lot of them too, from bots, shills, and people I'm not sure even know what a tariff is exactly, but whatever it is it's from the bad Orange Man so look out.

Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (NGHTx)

169 Democrats are not found guilty in DC.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at November 18, 2024 02:42 PM (0m81F)

---------------

Extradite them to Club Gitmo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (jaAv+)

170 Here's the thing: ALL Federal actions affect all 50 states, and hence the trial can be held in any state, I would argue. You don't have to hold them in Washington DC.

If I were the king of USA I would enact a law in which federal trials are held in a random location in the US NOT DC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (Hh1ER)

171 >>Yeah this is why I don't like either side in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Putin is a gangster, a mobbed up monster. He's a horrible sawed-off tyrant. He's an awful murdering dictator who nobody should admire. But that doesn't make Ukraine any less corrupt and sleazy.

Much if not most of the Russia collusion crap came from Ukraine. There were people there who assisted in running a coup attempt on Trump not once but twice.

They chose to help Biden and for their efforts Biden started a war they could never win and now has ruined their country. I couldn't give a wet fart about Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)

172 165 "Above board" has got to be the biggest guiltphrase going.
Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 02:56 PM (6QbOL)

Yeah, should have used, "by the book"

Posted by: S Rice at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (53oGX)

173 FUCK AROUND.
FIND OUT.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (wtvvX)

174 I'm waiting for them to show up at Mar-a-Lago, kneepads in hand.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (4tmpE)

175 "Whack their pee-pees.
Posted by: Baliff"

Well...yeah.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (fV+MH)

176 There are LOTS of teachers out there that think they're all going to lose their jobs because of Trump's wanting to end the DOE.

Why do these people think they can't survive without the federal government controlling everything?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)

177 I repeat. It's all just an idle threat unless any charges are brought outside DC. Or New York. Or countless other federal districts where there is virtually zero chance of getting conviction.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM


A metric a$$ ton of these crimes took place in other States and can be prosecuted there. All of the raids on Mar A Largo for starters.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (QNSds)

178 "Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said.


One quibble, 20 to life.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (aD39U)

179 As Richard Jeni noted, every woman looks at a mirror or picture of herself and sees only the flaws. Every guy looks at a mirror or a picture of themselves and thinks they're 3-4 pushups from dating a supermodel.

I met a Hooters Waitress once who reminded me of the actress who played the fantasy dream girl in the movie The Sure Thing. I pointed out to her that anytime somebody tells you you look like an actress, you ought to be really happy. When they tell you look like the actress who was hired to be a fantasy dream girl in a movie, you ought to be ecstatic. She honestly could only see her flaws when she looked in a mirror.

I took a picture of her. When I showed it to her she staggered backward and covered her mouth, to keep from showing her smile at seeing it. She said "That's a great picture, but that face." I'm going to show you that picture. Remember in viewing it that you are used to seeing photos of international Super Models. This was a waitress working her summer job to put herself through college.

https://tinyurl.com/273rzyre

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (Da7Vv)

180 132 They will have to move the trials out of DC somehow.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (elaR+)
East Texas.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (Z1jJH)

181 I love how they are terrified that Trump might do to them what they did to him. Oh and FBI employees don't make as much as private sector? Really? WTH would they be in the private sector. Private dectectives? Somehow I don't think the average PI, following someone whose spouse suspects them of cheating and is hoping for better a divorce settlement if they can prove has more 'take home' pay than a FIBber.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (CKOCg)

182 Franky Fig was one that was absolute shur trump was going to prison, for treason or some such,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (pGTZo)

183 I couldn't give a wet fart about Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM


I'm a dry man, myself.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (TTO0Z)

184 161. Fortunately numerous crimes happened right in FL.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (7PziG)

185 If Trump doesn't have most of these guys in jail before he's left office they'll come after him and his family again.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (oZhjI)

186
https://tinyurl.com/273rzyre
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (Da7Vv)



Cute but gummy. Still cute, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

187 Career FBI employees are especially vulnerable, the official added. Since they make less money than they would in the private sector, they rely on the pensions they receive after 20 years.

"Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."
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Congress created the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) in 1986, and it became effective on January 1, 1987. Since that time, new Federal civilian employees who have retirement coverage are covered by FERS.

FERS is a retirement plan that provides benefits from three different sources: a Basic Benefit Plan, Social Security, and the Thrift Savings Plan. Two of the three parts of FERS (Social Security and the Thrift Savings Plan) are PORTABLE should you leave the Federal Government before retirement. (Emphasis added.)
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NPR, Investigations, 'Who is DOJ Special Counsel Jack Smith?' November 18, 2022
In part, "From there, he went to the private sector, serving as the vice president and head of litigation for the Hospital Corporation of America; the nation's largest non-government health care providers, according to the Kosovo Specialist Chambers and Specialist Prosecutor's office."

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (NFX2v)

188 This was a waitress working her summer job to put herself through college.

https://tinyurl.com/273rzyre


this was a risky click but checks out

Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (NGHTx)

189 Test

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (Sw64s)

190 I took a picture of her. When I showed it to her she staggered backward and covered her mouth, to keep from showing her smile at seeing it. She said "That's a great picture, but that face." I'm going to show you that picture

She's gorgeous on the outside!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (Hh1ER)

191 Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, outspoken critic of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, falls 60 feet to his death
--------

Since then he kind of developed a speech impediment.

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (6QbOL)

192 Even though the entire Fusion Ken Dilanian story is a likely fever-dream, it plays right into my great hopes. Truth is, Trump himself will be way too busy for this shit.

That's presumably why Matt Gaetz is getting a job.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (C8wQA)

193 They will have to move the trials out of DC somehow.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (elaR+)
East Texas.
Posted by: Eromero


Roy Bean was in West Texas, correct?

Posted by: Bulg at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (v6JzV)

194 I'm not sure even know what a tariff is exactly, but whatever it is it's from the bad Orange Man so look out.
Posted by: brak

Trump gonna get you tariff-eathered n run outta town onna rail!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (6U1c2)

195 Why do I feel like everything might not have been above board….

Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:02 PM (pZEOD)

196 Why do these people think they can't survive without the federal government controlling everything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)

Because they can’t?

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:02 PM (FC8SQ)

197 This is the area I fear Trump will not be strong on. I fear he'll "take the high road" and avoid prosecuting their crimes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (Hh1ER)


If the High Road includes "you can go to live Morocco or Cote d'Ivoire and we won't prosecute you as long as you never leave" I am cool with that.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:02 PM (D7oie)

198 It's like a nationwide "whoops"

"Whoopsie daisies"

The summer of 69 is officially MOTHERFUCKING OVER.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 03:02 PM (fV+MH)

199 They could make more in the private sector?!?!?!? How much do the Bulwark or Christopher Steele pay? I can't think anyone else would hire them.

Posted by: Wally at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (kkfDF)

200 Russian ballet dancer Vladimir Shklyarov, outspoken critic of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, falls 60 feet to his death

Yeah this is why I don't like either side in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Putin is a gangster, a mobbed up monster. He's a horrible sawed-off tyrant. He's an awful murdering dictator who nobody should admire. But that doesn't make Ukraine any less corrupt and sleazy.

----------

Ukraine's best units in the army now, since they held them back most of the war are actual Nazis. When they get new tech they use it first to bomb Donbas civilians during holidays rather than at the invading soldiers. They leave their troops in place to be shelled to death for the trivialest hamlet repeatedly, then cut off and killed or captured. They made a law than anyone in the occupied areas that even got food relief was committing a crime.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (n7h9X)

201 Are you using a VPN? Change servers for a new IP and see if that helps.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)



You were right. I'm good now. Thanks.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (Sw64s)

202 https://tinyurl.com/273rzyre
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (Da7Vv)

Holy shit, dude!

Dude!

Holy shit!

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (I/RrQ)

203 he was in charge of counterintelligence, no joke, either before
strzok or after

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (pGTZo)

204 " Why do I feel like everything might not have been above board….
Posted by: Piper"

Because it isn't ever.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (fV+MH)

205 How many of these people are involved with enabling the child trafficking and hidden slavery in this country? That would make them nervous.

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (ZNSbE)

206 >>Franky Fig was one that was absolute shur trump was going to prison, for treason or some such,

If Trump hadn't turned his head at the exact moment he did he'd be dead. There's been a deafening silence about either of the two most prominent assassination attempts.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (LkLld)

207
You were right. I'm good now. Thanks.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (Sw64s)



I help where I can.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

208 https://tinyurl.com/273rzyre
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe

Gorgeous

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (6U1c2)

209 @191

>>Since then he kind of developed a speech impediment.

When the boss asks you to keep Mia Wallace company, you say no.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (XV/Pl)

210 Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 02:59 PM (Da7Vv)

Not unfortunate looking at all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (i24o9)

211 Any word on the fate of the FBI employee (I think her name was Howell) who went on social media after the Butler PA assassination attempt lamenting that it didn't work out to her satisfaction?

I bet she still has a job. You can't really follow up because Google scrubbed the story.

Posted by: Orson at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (dIske)

212 While Biden is in the Amazon, it would be so funny if he got into the ayahuasca.

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (0I+GC)

213 the Azovs they are probably overrated, but they do play a part,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (pGTZo)

214
Oh dear lawd, but if you watch one video today please let it be this.
https://tinyurl.com/5vfa9jv6
Posted by: Robert

=================

omg that's hilarious. There should be one of those for every American politico who called him Hitler, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (I87yH)

215 There could well be honorable people in these institutions; CIA FBI CDC FDA DOE etc but, since I have lost all confidence in them telling the truth, abolishing them seems the way to go.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (aD39U)

216 I sincerly hope they all get the opportunity to form a prison prayer group.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (qZdIZ)

217
"Everything we did was aboveboard,"

================

Translation: We stole democracy right out from your nose in broad daylight and no one stopped us.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (I87yH)

218 Why do I feel like everything might not have been above board….
Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:02 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (TTO0Z)

219 193 They will have to move the trials out of DC somehow.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 18, 2024 02:52 PM (elaR+)
East Texas.
Posted by: Eromero


Roy Bean was in West Texas, correct?

Posted by: Bulg at November 18, 2024 03:01 PM (v6JzV)

The Law West of the Pecos, yessiree bob.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (wtvvX)

220 this was a risky click but checks out
Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:00 PM (NGHTx)

I was ready for a fat chick with a dick. I'm like a dumb animal. I see the links, I click the links.

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (I/RrQ)

221 170 Here's the thing: ALL Federal actions affect all 50 states, and hence the trial can be held in any state, I would argue. You don't have to hold them in Washington DC.

If I were the king of USA I would enact a law in which federal trials are held in a random location in the US NOT DC.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:57 PM (Hh1ER)

I've been pushing this for 4 years...it should be done by random lottery. If there's no guarantee of acquittal, folks will think before they act in DC. It's kinda like concealed carry bringing crime rates and shootings way down...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (exHjb)

222 There are LOTS of teachers out there that think they're all going to lose their jobs because of Trump's wanting to end the DOE.

Why do these people think they can't survive without the federal government controlling everything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)

They should lose their jobs because they are terrible at it. Hence test scores for generations.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (n7h9X)

223 What happens belowboard, stays belowboard.

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (0I+GC)

224 197 This is the area I fear Trump will not be strong on. I fear he'll "take the high road" and avoid prosecuting their crimes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 02:39 PM (Hh1ER)
____________________

I thought that too until he pulled the "not giving two effs" move of nominating Gaetz. The FBI is under the DOJ's jurisdiction as a subsidiary of sorts.

Posted by: Orson at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (dIske)

225 This is the area I fear Trump will not be strong on. I fear he'll "take the high road" and avoid prosecuting their crimes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


After they fucked him for four solid years?
No. This is personal.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (tY81A)

226 High ranking Democrats need not be concerned, right?

Posted by: Sen Adam Schiff-for-Brains at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (B9KRl)

227 The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of becoming even more of a target, doesn't believe any attempt to prosecute him will be successful. Judges and juries have the power to throw out cases or find defendants innocent if they deem prosecutions to be baseless.

______

The assumption here about judges and juries is that Gaetz and Co. will bring the cases in the corrupted D.C. venues. I will be pleasantly surprised if these cases are brought, but if they are, look to other jurisdictions for trials since most will have a nexus outside of D.C. Some of these crimes, at a minimum, took place in Virginia and Maryland outside of the District.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (CaELB)

228 Trump and his various legal teams are going to have an uphill battle just to get any case that involves DoJ employees in front of a judge. Let alone in front of an honest judge.

Moving the various cases out of the capitol city ought be something they're working on now. Paving a way forward so they can expedite them. Run several a day. With bus service on the hour to Leavenworth. And twice daily flights to Gitmo.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 18, 2024 03:07 PM (Q4IgG)

229
After they fucked him for four solid years?
No. This is personal.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (tY81A)



Shit.

They've been trying to shove things up his ass since 2015.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

230 There could well be honorable people in these institutions; CIA FBI CDC FDA DOE etc but, since I have lost all confidence in them telling the truth, abolishing them seems the way to go.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 18, 2024 03:05 PM (aD39U)

At some point if you are in those organizations you have to take sides or you are part of the problem. The Ham and Eggers, if not mythical are nearly so.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:07 PM (n7h9X)

231 I'm trying to imagine all the fun they were planning for 8 years under Kamala and that sick fuck Walzenfuhrer.

I think about it sometimes and smile.

The best part of waking up 🎶
Is Kamala lost to Trump

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (6QbOL)

232 No mercy for any of them. None.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (Sw64s)

233 There are LOTS of teachers out there that think they're all going to lose their jobs because of Trump's wanting to end the DOE.

Why do these people think they can't survive without the federal government controlling everything?
Posted by: Sponge


There's 50 dtate Departments of Education.

A federal duplicate is unneeded.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (tY81A)

234 Others should be worried, too:

NBC: Trump transition team compiling list of current and former U.S. military officers for possible courts-martial...involved in the withdrawal from Afghanistan and exploring whether they could be court-martialed for their involvement

CNN: Inside the conservative hunt for partisans in the federal government before Trump takes over. In mid-September, as tech billionaire Elon Musk intensified his efforts to elect Donald Trump as president, a wave of letters arrived at the Department of Transportation, asking the agency to turn over any emails and text messages that federal workers sent about the world’s wealthiest man and his sprawling technology empire.

He's out for revenge just like he said he would be.

Biden can pardon everyone on that list.

This is how military coups start. It will be a sad day for America if the asshole Trump incites another coup. However, if he does, it will be one of the last things he and his minions ever do.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (JCZqz)

235 They've been trying to shove things up his ass since 2015.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

Who is the ass shover now?

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (6QbOL)

236 The Ham and Eggers, if not mythical are nearly so.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:07 PM (n7h9X)

You mean Hannity might not have the right call here?

Posted by: Inogame at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (53oGX)

237 How do we get the trials out of DC, though?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (1bNHn)

238 >>> FERS is a retirement plan that provides benefits from three different sources: a Basic Benefit Plan, Social Security, and the Thrift Savings Plan. Two of the three parts of FERS (Social Security and the Thrift Savings Plan) are PORTABLE should you leave the Federal Government before retirement. (Emphasis added.)

Claw it back. Every dime.

Feebs should spend their retirement eating cat food and working as Walmart greeters. It’d be the first honest work any of them have ever done.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (FC8SQ)

239 Trump himself will take the high road, like he did in meeting with Biden. But if others, like Melania or Gaetz have other plans, I think Trump is 100% on board.

Posted by: Wally at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (kkfDF)

240 There are LOTS of teachers useless, oxygen-wasting twats out there that think they're all going to lose their jobs because of Trump's wanting to end the DOE.

Why do these people think they can't survive without the federal government controlling everything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 02:58 PM


That's why.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (ZANHd)

241
There's 50 dtate Departments of Education.

A federal duplicate is unneeded.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (tY81A)



Exactly. Giving this all back to the states saves the states money by not having to fund every other state's shitty education system.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

242 Yeah but...
If you send them all to prison together they'll never get to develop those close prison fellowships with other Non-FBI felons.

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (FhXTo)

243 I'm not sure even know what a tariff is exactly, but whatever it is it's from the bad Orange Man so look out.

Yeah to the extent people know about tariffs or talk about them they tend to um... not understand the power structure.

You get a lot of chamber of commerce "free trade" types who think they are taxes, and use all the tax analysis: it drives up prices, corporations never pay taxes, this is bad.

The problem is they don't understand what tariffs are and how they function. Are they technically a tax? That's what they look like yes.

But they don't function as taxes. They are leverage, they are pressure on other countries. If Country A has 30% tariffs on Country B, and Country B has 3% tariffs on Country A, then its a power imbalance. Country B raising tariffs will pressure Country A to lower tariffs, IF Country B has power enough economically or Country A is dependent on B's economic activity.

And that's the part that a lot don't get, and seem incapable of getting. This is about pressuring other nations to lower their tariffs. And make no mistake, China needs the US way more than the US Needs China. We LIKE cheap crap from China. They NEED the US dollars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (Hh1ER)

244
That's why.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (ZANHd)



That does clear things up a bit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

245 That's Redwood Pine-Scented Druidic Tree Philosopher to you, bub ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 18, 2024 02:54 PM (jaAv+)

*throws flag*

Redwooods are Sequoias, not pines.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (0XtpM)

246 237 How do we get the trials out of DC, though?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (1bNHn)

Easiest way is to pass a law through Congress.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (exHjb)

247 Important media figures who were consciously in league with government agencies while engaged in treason probably are OK, right?

Posted by: Fake Jake Tapper, broadcasting live from a secure location! at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (B9KRl)

248 While Biden is in the Amazon, it would be so funny if he got into the ayahuasca.
Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (0I+GC)

He might emerge from the experience as sentiment.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (kTd/k)

249 This is the area I fear Trump will not be strong on. I fear he'll "take the high road" and avoid prosecuting their crimes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

This has been my main concern, too, but Trump isn't acting like typical Republican trash so far in this regard. It would have been better for Trump to have lost if he decided to take the cowardly "high road," and it has been a pleasant surprise to see he apparently knows it.

There has to be very severe punishment because we came within a hair of being a full-blown police state.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (CaELB)

250 RFKJr. Balloons to 350 pounds after taking a single bite of a McDonalds burger.


The 🐝

😎

Posted by: Archer at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (we1mb)

251 "Revenge and Retribution Czar would be cool.
Posted by: Martini Farmer:
Boner.
But I "Justice Czar" would be more apt.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 02:55 PM (fV+MH)


"Witchsmeller Pursuivant"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:09 PM (D7oie)

252 Any prosecutions need to be carried out in the bloodiest red jurisdictions possible, no matter how contrived the legal reasoning may be, and even if it means states charging instead of feds.

Put these motherfuckers in front of juries who will convict them *no matter what.* Make them taste your pain, Donald.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (7oYYI)

253
Who is the ass shover now?
Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (6QbOL)



Well, here's hoping, anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

254 Our current FBI director ought to be sweating bullets. He kept the Hunter Biden laptop under wraps for years, knowing it was authentic but saying NOTHING when the 51 intel experts called it Russian disinformation. He needs to join those 51 rotting in prison. And why has the Epstein client list never been released.

The director owes the government a fortune for misappropriating a government jet airplane for his personal use, while compensating the government only for the lowest price airline fares. That's like me appropriating a Presidential limousine, and Secret Service staffers for the price of a bus ticket.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (Da7Vv)

255 Everything was above board. Because "we were just following orders" was already taken.

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (6QbOL)

256
There is that lame argument that they make less than the private sector. I know someone who worked for govt for 30 years and has been on their lavish pension for 33 years so how is it they get paid less?
Posted by: Gomjabber at November 18, 2024 02:49 PM (HBB9b)



According to Dave Ramsey, one of the top 5 professions for millionaires is being a teacher. He attributes it to teachers being planners, but I'm pretty sure he's wrong there, given the number of education bond issues that crop up in every election. If they were good planners, they wouldn't have to ask for bond issues all the time. Or ask parents to buy supplies that the classes need.

The teachers must have another source of income other than their base salary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (y9nCu)

257 The DoJ and Bureau deliberately used the auspices of government, with malice and forethought, to undermine the opposition political party and anybody they don’t agree with.

We shouldn’t be talking about criminal charges, we should be talking about hangings.

What they did wasn’t just against the law. It was against the very foundation of our republic. They not only violated a sacred trust, they purposely subverted our democratic processes then tried to hide the evidence.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (/PTz1)

258 Plus Locality Pay, $ to commute (though just about everyone is home) on public transit, paid parking for senior level personnel and on and on. Plus, not the timesheets required by private firms, which is a whole other blessing,

Examples:

The 2024 Locality Pay Adjustment for this locality is 33.26%, which means that GS employees in this area are paid 33.26% more then the GS Base Pay Table.

The NY-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA GS Locality Pay Adjustment for this locality is 37.24%, which means that GS employees in this area are paid 37.24% more then the GS Base Pay Table.

And, the 2024 Locality Adjustment Rate for the San Francisco GS locality is 45.41%.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (NFX2v)

259 >>This is how military coups start. It will be a sad day for America if the asshole Trump incites another coup. However, if he does, it will be one of the last things he and his minions ever do.

Trump incited a coup? By doing what, winning an election?

These people are mentally ill.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (LkLld)

260 How do we get the trials out of DC, though?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (1bNHn)

Easiest way is to pass a law through Congress.
Posted by: Nova Local


Was any crime spoken about over a landline phone? Phone wires in DC attach to phone wires in sll 50 states.
Pick one. Hold the trial there. You know they'd do it to you.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (tY81A)

261 I'm trying to imagine all the fun they were planning for 8 years under Kamala and that sick fuck Walzenfuhrer.

I think about it sometimes and smile.

The best part of waking up 🎶
Is Kamala lost to Trump
Posted by: ...

I smile knowing Walz probably cried more after the loss than Kamala did.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (JCZqz)

262 Boeing is laying off 2200 people, all in Washington.

Snohomish County where the big Boeing plant is voted 57% Kumswala. And of course King Co, where Boeing used to have its HQ and still has a lot of employees went 75% Kumswala.

Learn 2 Code

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (D5JAh)

263 Andrew McCabe -- pure as the driven snow, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (Amz76)

264 Speaking of sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. How about a change in the statute of limitations? You know, a special one-off change like the one in NY that launched the Crazy Lady/Bergdorf Dressing Room case against Trump. Could be fun.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (Axg4F)

265 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Would you rather be Trump or them right now?

Trump is about to wage a war in the court of public opinion as has been rarely seen. For those who don't think that matters, see the last election. It matters for this nation's future.

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (6QbOL)

266 the Azovs they are probably overrated, but they do play a part,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 18, 2024 03:04 PM (pGTZo)

About 30 percent of the army were Bandarite, Azov and other Nazi groups. The expansion of the army probably reduced that, but the Azovs were kept out of the line as reserves more of the time for security. During the fall of one city, these reserves basically refused to go into the developing encirclement and retreated themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (n7h9X)

267 They made a law than anyone in the occupied areas that even got food relief was committing a crime.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:03 PM (n7h9X)

They were labeled collaborators for accepting medicine and food from Russians. A grayzone reporter investigated the whole "Putin is stealing children" and found that parents were sending their children to Russia to get them out of the war zone and wouldn't tell Ukraine gov't for the same reason. When he called up the guy that wrote the paper that ICC used for the trial, he admitted they weren't captives.

Posted by: ryukyu at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (z/gEl)

268 Every inner city or below the poverty line school in America gets Title I money from the feds based on butts in seats. You will never break them of that federal money addiction. It's "for the children."

Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (NGHTx)

269 It makes me laugh to see these people panicking because
Trump might do to them what they did to Him and anyone around him... Difference is Trump was innocent

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2024 03:13 PM (IyPmt)

270 There are LOTS of teachers out there that think they're all going to lose their jobs because of Trump's wanting to end the DOE.

That might be true in some cases -- the DOE is likely pressuring states to keep certain teachers in place when they otherwise might be let go.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:13 PM (Hh1ER)

271 260 How do we get the trials out of DC, though?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 18, 2024 03:08 PM (1bNHn)

Easiest way is to pass a law through Congress.
Posted by: Nova Local


Was any crime spoken about over a landline phone? Phone wires in DC attach to phone wires in sll 50 states.
Pick one. Hold the trial there. You know they'd do it to you.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (tY81A)

That would be "Was any planning done on an airport tarmac? At the Pentagon or CIA HQ in VA? Over the phone? From home? (this is big - most of the folks weren't working in DC in COVID) On Videoconference with folks around the nation?"

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:13 PM (exHjb)

272 The Arc of the Moral Universe Is Long, But It Bends Toward Awesome!

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at November 18, 2024 03:13 PM (vBVVb)

273 fox news feb 21 2020:

Former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland said Friday that the FBI -- under the purview of the Mueller investigation -- tried to set up her up in a "perjury trap."

Appearing on "Fox & Friends" with host Brian Kilmeade, McFarland -- who served under former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn -- explained that her life "went to hell" at the beginning of the Russia probe because investigators were convinced she was President Trump's to {*} the Russians.

"The FBI showed up at my house unannounced. I was all by myself. They come in and I said, 'Do I need a lawyer for anything? I have never met with any Russians. I have never dealt with any Russians,'" she explained.

The agents said that while they couldn't tell her not to get a lawyer, they just wanted a "little bit of information" to help them with the investigation.

"So, I naively went along with it. The whole time they were setting me up for a perjury trap," she told Kilmeade. "Because Brian, they seized all of my files, my documents, text messages, cell phones from the period I was in government...They had control of them. They wouldn't let me have control of them."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:14 PM (CWTWj)

274 >>This is how military coups start. It will be a sad day for America if the asshole Trump incites another coup. However, if he does, it will be one of the last things he and his minions ever do.

Trump incited a coup? By doing what, winning an election?

These people are mentally ill.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 03:11 PM (LkLld)

Blackmailing the sitting President from running and installing a candidate was NOT a coup?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:14 PM (n7h9X)

275 A Russian ballet dancer who was an outspoken critic of Russia’s war in Ukraine has mysteriously plunged to his death from the fifth floor of a building.

Vladimir Shklyarov, a married father of two, plummeted around 60 feet to the ground from a building on Saturday, a spokesperson for the Mariinsky Theater in St. Petersburg, where the 39-year-old was the highest-ranking dancer, told Fontanka.

Posted by: SMOD at November 18, 2024 03:14 PM (RHGPo)

276
Trump is about to wage a war in the court of public opinion as has been rarely seen. For those who don't think that matters, see the last election. It matters for this nation's future.
Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (6QbOL)



I just hope they actually do what REALLY needs to be done.

We're a corrupt shithole that needs to be cleaned up.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

277 At The Telegraph: "Critical undersea internet cable severed amid fears of Russian sabotage"

To keep the water from seeping back through the cable into your router, you can install a check valve where the cable comes in the house.

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (0I+GC)

278 268 Every inner city or below the poverty line school in America gets Title I money from the feds based on butts in seats. You will never break them of that federal money addiction. It's "for the children."
Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (NGHTx)

You don't need a federal department for poverty funds. HHS could have 1 person get 50 reports from the states and cut checks each month, with 19 other work days to audit the info sent (doing 19 states per month, 1 per day)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (exHjb)

279 Any prosecutions need to be carried out in the bloodiest red jurisdictions possible, no matter how contrived the legal reasoning may be, and even if it means states charging instead of feds.

Put these motherfuckers in front of juries who will convict them *no matter what.* Make them taste your pain, Donald.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 03:10 PM (7oYYI)

Also, the right needs to get real comfortable with this phrase: the process is the punishment.

Dawn SWAT raids. Dragged before the cameras in their pajamas. Charges on top of charges, no matter how far-fetched. Bankrupt them.

This is what Democrats do. It works, because even when they win in court their lives are ruined.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (FC8SQ)

280 re me at 273: i think there's a word missing where i put the {*]

but i might have seen this interview back then and i think she said the legal fees pretty must wiped her out. which was probably the idea

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (CWTWj)

281 "Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."


These career a-holes had the OPTION to not engage in partisan politics. They chose poorly. They can EABOD, DIAF, and finally, eff off in the direction of down under the bridge and begin their new career of providing $20 handies.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (MsrgL)

282
[looks around anxiously for some curtains]

Posted by: James Comey at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (XeU6L)

283 mysteriously plunged
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You know who else was mysteriously plunged?

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (6QbOL)

284 The 2024 Locality Pay Adjustment for this locality is 33.26%...

Sorry, D.C. info.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (NFX2v)

285 The next Civil War will begin with the lawyers

Posted by: SMOD at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo)

286 "Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official
......

funniest thing I've read all day.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

287 Boeing is laying off 2200 people, all in Washington.

Snohomish County where the big Boeing plant is voted 57% Kumswala. And of course King Co, where Boeing used to have its HQ and still has a lot of employees went 75% Kumswala.

Learn 2 Code
Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (D5JAh)

Will the last person leaving Seattle, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.

Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (lCppi)

288 "Being born with a pair of beady eyes was the best thing that ever happened to me." Lee Van Cleef - actor.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (jFCkp)

289 You don't need a federal department for poverty funds. HHS could have 1 person get 50 reports from the states and cut checks each month, with 19 other work days to audit the info sent (doing 19 states per month, 1 per day)...

absolutely, but for teachers getting Title I stipends they probably are thinking the end of the DoE is the end of their jobs

Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (NGHTx)

290 Posted by: James Comey at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (XeU6L)

My candidate for the first to roll over on everyone. May be doing it now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (CaELB)

291 I'm concerned that Trump won't come after Biden.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (zSyrn)

292 Dawn SWAT raids. Dragged before the cameras in their pajamas. Charges on top of charges, no matter how far-fetched. Bankrupt them.
Posted by: Apocalypse Now!

Kill their pet squirrels.

Posted by: Bulg at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (v6JzV)

293
Will the last person leaving Seattle, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.
Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (lCppi)



Nurse will frolic around the empty city with joy and will not be turning the lights off, or leaving.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

294 Iran has hit back against social media claims that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is close to death or in a coma.

The Ayatollah is no more dead than Joe Biden.

Posted by: SMOD at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (RHGPo)

295 '"Everything we did was aboveboard," said a former senior FBI official'

They buried a 2X4 a couple hundred feet under FBI HQ, just so they can say that with a straight face.

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (0I+GC)

296 I'm concerned that Trump won't come after Biden.
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (zSyrn)



He won't just like he didn't go after Hillary. That's not unifying the country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

297 "Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."

These career a-holes had the OPTION to not engage in partisan politics. They chose poorly. They can EABOD, DIAF, and finally, eff off in the direction of down under the bridge and begin their new career of providing $20 handies.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (MsrgL)


Boo hoo. They're what, 45 or younger? That's hardly too late to LTC.

Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (lCppi)

298 So "aboveboard" means blatantly partisan, political, and vindictively petty?
Posted by: Doof


When you waterboard someone, the go above the board, right? You can't pour water on them if they're under the board. It was above board, like that.

Posted by: mikeski at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (tpSOT)

299 Well, look at this. The Daily Mail humanizes The Donald. Pics from his younger days with his very young children. Nice!

https://tinyurl.com/54b28879

Posted by: Gref at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (aBgBM)

300 277 At The Telegraph: "Critical undersea internet cable severed amid fears of Russian sabotage"

To keep the water from seeping back through the cable into your router, you can install a check valve where the cable comes in the house.
Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (0I+GC)

Wow, almost like shooting American Made, American Transported, American Contractor manned, American Target information used... into the interior of Russia, at some CIVILIAN targets... might just piss someone off.

Who woulda thunk it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (QAkQ3)

301 I'm concerned that Trump won't come after Biden.

He will not. He will also likely pardon Hunter.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (Hh1ER)

302 You know who else was mysteriously plunged?
Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM


The bastards left it in the toilet!

Posted by: Zombie Helen Keller at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (ZANHd)

303 After they fucked him for four solid years?
No. This is personal.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 18, 2024 03:06 PM (tY81A)

You misspelled 'shot him in the face.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (aYubz)

304 Jerry Dunleavy IV @JerryDunleavy Nov 17
Adam Schiff read parts of the bullshit, anti-Trump, Clinton-funded, & DNC-funded Steele Dossier ***into the congressional record***, so desperate was he to push the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. And now he refuses to engage in any introspection whatsoever.

Mollie @MZHemingway 2h
Jake Tapper, who helped launch the Russia collusion info op, asks Schiff whether, by ceaselessly lying about collusion, he’s responsible for Trump’s disrupter nominations. The collusion hoax is now so toxic its perpetrators are blaming each other for it and the ensuing results.

https://tinyurl.com/nhcjp8ej

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (hovnC)

305 285 The next Civil War will begin with the lawyers
Posted by: SMOD at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo)

Agreed except it has started already.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (CaELB)

306 You will never break them of that federal money addiction. It's "for the children."
Posted by: brak at November 18, 2024 03:12 PM (NGHTx)

Sure you can, the way you break any addiction: cold turkey.

Zero out Federal funds for education. It’s a state/local issue. Nothing in the Constitution authorizes one red cent for anti-white gay communist indoctrination centers.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (FC8SQ)

307 I don’t want to be the freak show party, like they have branded us. You know, when you’re a mom with three kids, and you live in middle America and you’re just not really into politics

Posted by: Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (RHGPo)

308 These new leaks sound like overt acts in furtherance of the seditious conspiracy, resetting the statute of limitations clock.

Posted by: Candidus at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (hH5FF)

309 My candidate for the first to roll over on everyone. May be doing it now.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (CaELB)

He's probably in the least hot water, by virtue of being fired almost immediately. Others hung around committing many more crimes, more recently.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (7oYYI)

310 "Agents have to do 20 years," the former senior FBI official said. "These people don't have options."
.....

I hear McDonalds is hiring.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (v0R5T)

311 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

312 Fwiw, Joe and mik, going to mar a lago are not so much Chamberlin securing peace for our time as Hitler buying time to regroup before going into poland.

They need tlto figure out how to unllfuck themselves. Good news is that there's no unfucking identity politics and strong independent black women, or indianss saying they are strong independent black women.

Additionally no matter how hard you unfuck something, you could unfuck this with its knees pinned behind its ears for days, and it would not be enough to set this straight now

Posted by: N at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (8XibL)

313 Dawn SWAT raids. Dragged before the cameras in their pajamas. Charges on top of charges, no matter how far-fetched. Bankrupt them.
Posted by: Apocalypse Now!

Kill their pet squirrels.
Posted by: Bulg at November 18, 2024 03:17 PM (v6JzV)

Pulling guns on a father in front of his terrified young children because he prayed to end abortion. I really don't care about their lost pension.

Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:21 PM (lCppi)

314 Will the last person leaving Seattle, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.

Yeah this is seriously going to hurt Sea-Tac. But Boeing has been run like trash for ages. Its been due.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:21 PM (Hh1ER)

315 Wray is bailing as soon as he has to start flying business class

Posted by: N at November 18, 2024 03:21 PM (8XibL)

316 311 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

I'm excited to see them sue to test this theory...

Posted by: Inogame at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (53oGX)

317 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

Even if he can't be fired, I'm sure he can be transferred to Guam or Nome.

Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (lCppi)

318 Somehow, I don't think THESE lawyers will become unpersons

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (/6GbT)

319
Befehl ist Befehl, huh girls??

Posted by: Catherine at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (JUpL6)

320 315 Wray is bailing as soon as he has to start flying business class
Posted by: N at November

My suggestion is he starts dusting off his resume now.

Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (pZEOD)

321 277 At The Telegraph: "Critical undersea internet cable severed amid fears of Russian sabotage"

To keep the water from seeping back through the cable into your router, you can install a check valve where the cable comes in the house.
Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:15 PM (0I+GC)

Wow, almost like shooting American Made, American Transported, American Contractor manned, American Target information used... into the interior of Russia, at some CIVILIAN targets... might just piss someone off.

Who woulda thunk it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (QAkQ3)

Well, a while back when Macron was getting frisky suddenly by coincidence a bunch of West African states ejected the French, cut a planned gas pipeline route and raised the absurdly low price for Uranium to France to market rates.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (n7h9X)

322 311 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

Funny, Bill Clinton fired his FBI Director. But I guess it's (D)ifferent.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (exHjb)

323 “ The collusion hoax is now so toxic its perpetrators are blaming each other for it and the ensuing results.”

We should be handing out pernachs.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (nmw7B)

324 The director owes the government a fortune for misappropriating a government jet airplane for his personal use, while compensating the government only for the lowest price airline fares. That's like me appropriating a Presidential limousine, and Secret Service staffers for the price of a bus ticket.

Those flights cost the government about $50,000 each, in fuel, crew costs, maintenance and depreciation of the aircraft. I suspect Ray is going to be sweating bullets trying to come up with that kind of money, since he flew home to GA every weekend. Misappropriation of government services is a felony for each occurrence. Ray either pays up, or he will never get out of prison.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (Da7Vv)

325 US News & World Report, 'Boeing Issues Layoff Notices to 400-Plus Workers as It Begins Drastic Cuts' Boeing has delivered layoff notices to more than 400 members of its professional aerospace labor union, part of thousands of cuts planned as the company struggles to recover from financial and regulatory trouble as well as an eight-week strike by its machinists' union, By Associated Press, Nov. 16, 2024

In part, "Of those 438 workers, 218 are members of SPEEA’s professional unit, which includes engineers and scientists. The rest are members of the technical unit, which includes analysts, planners, technicians and skilled tradespeople.

Eligible employees will receive career transition services and subsidized health care benefits for up to three months. Workers will also receive severance, typically about one week of pay for every year of service.

Boeing’s unionized Machinists began returning to work earlier this month following the strike.

The strike strained Boeing’s finances. But Ortberg said on an October call with analysts that it did not cause the layoffs, which he described as a result of overstaffing."
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I always feel so sorry for all of the new hires, too

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (NFX2v)

326 Boo hoo. They're what, 45 or younger? That's hardly too late to LTC.
Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (lCppi)

Hey, 90% of programmers can’t code. We don’t need more idiots in tech.

The Feebs can mine cobalt.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (FC8SQ)

327 Western Lensman @WesternLensman Nov 17
NEW: After labeling Tulsi Gabbard an “apologist for Putin” — Russiagate Conspirator and Laptop Hoaxer John Brennan warns that she won’t be “apolitical” as DNI.

The irony meters are melted.

BRENNAN: “The professionals that are in these 18 intelligence agencies want to have confidence that the person who sits on top of them and that person by law is the president's principal intelligence advisor, is going to be carrying out the duties in a qualified way, but also in apolitical, objective fashion."

Brennan lied to congress, lied to the American people to interfere in an election and participated in the Russia Collusion Hoax.

“Apolitical."

Tulsi as DNI can’t happen fast enough.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (hovnC)

328 https://tinyurl.com/54b28879
Posted by: Gref at November 18, 2024 03:18 PM (aBgBM

The are much better, in spite of their tabloid stuff, than any US News outlet.

I learned all of my Benghazi truths, within 48hrs, from the UK DM and spread it wide and far.

Meanwhile, that weekend, Susan Black Pearl lied about Benghzi on every MSM and I went berserk.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (gi+MR)

329 I'm concerned that Trump won't come after Biden.
Posted by: CTHillary

Of course not...he's already been passed on prosecution once, but now maybe the documents justifying the lack of prosecution is due to his mental decline might become public.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (JCZqz)

330 I made three new Russian contacts this morning, and they didn't seem pissed off. OTOH, it was on FT8, so it's hard to tell. But they get ornery for no reason at all sometimes.

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (0I+GC)

331 Going to be plenty of new jobs picking crops, cleaning houses, and in construction labor. You could have LearnedToCode, but the AI is taking that option away. OnlyFans?

Posted by: Candidus at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (hH5FF)

332
311 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November

DOGE is probably going to need a file clerk.

Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (pZEOD)

333
The Feebs can mine cobalt.
Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (FC8SQ)



I'd prefer they contract out to Canada and start mining asbestos, without a mask.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

334 Wray went with the weasel statement “he has no plans to leave”. lol. Ok, leave. I think we’ll be fine.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (nmw7B)

335 Love their Hey 19, a brilliant song...


Boston Radio Watch®️
@bostonradio
52 years ago today, November 18, 1972, Steely Dan released 'Do It Again'. It peaked at #6 on Billboard’s Hot 💯in 1973.

In ther formative years, David Palmer sang lead on most of Steely Dan's songs when the band performed live in concerts as a result of Donald Fagen's battle with stage fright in front of audiences. Fagen eventually took over as lead vocalist and Palmer left the band...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 18, 2024 03:24 PM (TGPs7)

336
I'm trying to imagine all the fun they were planning for 8 years under Kamala and that sick fuck Walzenfuhrer.



He missed out on fresh oracles delivered from every corner of the empire, daily.

*Evil laugh*

Posted by: Fat Persian Spy for Xerxes at November 18, 2024 03:24 PM (y9nCu)

337 "No mercy for any of them. None.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!"

No mercy? At all?

I'll allow it.

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 03:24 PM (fV+MH)

338 Even if he can't be fired, I'm sure he can be transferred to Guam or Nome.
Posted by: LASue at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (lCppi)

Fire? Who cares??

OMB can damn sure stop paying them. And close their Office. And refuse to let them park in the Bldg Lot.

They're being absurd, if POTUS says you're Fired, you're fired

Posted by: Catherine at November 18, 2024 03:24 PM (JUpL6)

339 Fwiw, Joe and mik, going to mar a lago are not so much Chamberlin securing peace for our time as Hitler buying time to regroup before going into poland.

They need tlto figure out how to unllfuck themselves. Good news is that there's no unfucking identity politics and strong independent black women, or indianss saying they are strong independent black women.

Additionally no matter how hard you unfuck something, you could unfuck this with its knees pinned behind its ears for days, and it would not be enough to set this straight now
Posted by: N at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (8XibL)

I don't know who it was but I saw a dude on YT saying they would bake a lowball offer for MSNBC and put in their own shows...but they would keep on Joe and Mika for the bad example.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:24 PM (n7h9X)

340 Justice is coming sooner than you think.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2024 03:25 PM (RIvkX)

341 My suggestion is he starts dusting off his resume now.
Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (pZEOD)

It better include ditch digging.

Posted by: Office of the Excavator Plenipotentiary, Grand North American Dignity Canal Construction Corps at November 18, 2024 03:25 PM (7oYYI)

342 I'm concerned that Trump won't come after Biden.
Posted by: CTHillary

Biden just wandered off into the Amazon. I think he is about to meet a far bigger judge of his wrongdoings.

Posted by: Piper at November 18, 2024 03:25 PM (pZEOD)

343 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

The Federal Reserve is actually independent and privately-owned, so Powell is correct.

However, maybe more Republicans will start to question why our money is created out of thin air by a privately-owned central bank that answers to no one.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:25 PM (FC8SQ)

344 Career FBI employees are especially vulnerable, the official added. Since they make less money than they would in the private sector, they rely on the pensions they receive after 20 years.
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This is such a F'ing lie.

They make way more than the private sector.
1) they are all GS-13+; the ones that should be fired.
2) they don't count their locality, step or the benefits in this.

Finally, the US Government should not be a jobs program (charity) for otherwise unemployable adults.

Fuck them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 18, 2024 03:25 PM (m77VT)

345 >>He won't just like he didn't go after Hillary. That's not unifying the country.

He probably won't go as hard and far as I would like but I think he will allow investigations to forward and some prosecutions to happen.

Trump didn't go after Hillary in 2016 because she hadn't actually done anything to him, his family or supporters. There was also the small matter of them trying to take him down as a Russian plant for the first 3 years.

Since 2016 they have run multiple lawsuits on him and his supporters, raided his house, stole his reelection, tried to bankrupt him, impeached him twice, threw hundreds of his supporters in prison for "parading" and tried to murder him. Twice. I don't think they are getting the Hillary treatment this time.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2024 03:26 PM (LkLld)

346 I see folks missed my comment.

FBI Director CAN be fired. Bill Clinton did it. It was fine. The world continued.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)

347 346 I see folks missed my comment.

FBI Director CAN be fired. Bill Clinton did it. It was fine. The world continued.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)

Trump rather famously fired Comey... I think the Powell is claiming he's untouchable.

Posted by: Inogame at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (53oGX)

348 Amazing how important to democracy these people think they are.. surprised they fit through doorways

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (/6GbT)

349 Purge them all

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (xcxpd)

350 No Prisoners!

Senator Blutarsky

Posted by: Archer at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (we1mb)

351 FBI Director CAN be fired. Bill Clinton did it. It was fine. The world continued.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)



Constitutionally, yes he can. But they haven't been following the Constitution for quite some time, now, so they think they're invincible....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

352 Constitution Congress gov - ArtII.S2.C2.3.15.1 Overview of Removal of Executive Branch Officers

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The Appointments Clause delineates the method of appointment for Officers of the United States. ...

Note: Read all, if interested.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:27 PM (NFX2v)

353 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)


The Fed is nominally independent...Powell might have a very good point.

But Treasury IS an executive department, and the secretary can tell the Fed to stuff it when they want more money printed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (d9fT1)

354 Funny, Bill Clinton fired his FBI Director. But I guess it's (D)ifferent.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:22 PM (exHjb)

Clinton fired every DOJ lawyer when he entered office.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (n7h9X)

355 OnlyFans?
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Posted by: Vicki Nuland BBW at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (FC8SQ)

356 346 I see folks missed my comment.

FBI Director CAN be fired. Bill Clinton did it. It was fine. The world continued.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)


Hell, Wray's predecessor was fired. That guy, Comey, also is my candidate to be the one who rolls on the rest of the lot.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (CaELB)

357 "Being born with a pair of beady eyes was the best thing that ever happened to me." Lee Van Cleef - actor.
Posted by: Pudinhead
--------

A bulbous nose paid real dividends for me.

Posted by: Karl Malden at November 18, 2024 03:29 PM (XeU6L)

358 part of the fanny willis case in georgia against trump was based on a recorded phone call. i believe the person who recorded the call... well, mollie at the federalist:

However, the person who recorded the phone call wasn’t in Fulton County or even in Georgia. That's a problem. Jordan Fuchs, a political activist who serves as Raffensperger's chief of staff, was in Florida, where it is illegal to record a call without all parties to the call consenting to the recording. She neither asked for nor received consent to record.

https://tinyurl.com/yc765up8

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:29 PM (CWTWj)

359
Clinton fired every DOJ lawyer when he entered office.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (n7h9X)



Didn't GWB do this and the left lost it's f*cking collective mind?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)

360 re 357: mr fields, is that your nose or are you eating a tomato?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (CWTWj)

361
Chris Wray's "I'm not leaving" tantrum is just more proof that he is a gatekeeper for the Deep state.

Fuck him. Drag him out and have him walked to his car,office box in hand with News Cameras watching

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (+oR7L)

362 re 357: also jimmy durante

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (CWTWj)

363 My Youtube has randomly given me Led Zeppelin.

I'm in heaven.









Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (fV+MH)

364 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)


Powell told Biden and Congress to screw off and made it stick

I don't think he is worried much about Trump.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (D7oie)

365 "joe & mika are the obvious choices to be set up as sacrificial lambs to be offered at the altar of trumpism as they always leaned right anyhow." - Daily Kos comment

Always leaned right. Amusing.

Or this one: "Two pieces of garbage! Traitors!"

Garbage? Traitors? So they were closet Maga Americans this whole time? Amusing.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at November 18, 2024 03:31 PM (vO42M)

366 Another phrase to remember: personnel is policy.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:31 PM (FC8SQ)

367 The next Civil War will begin with the lawyers
Posted by: SMOD at November 18, 2024 03:16 PM (RHGPo)

Agreed except it has started already.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 18, 2024 03:19 PM (CaELB)


Yes. If one does not understand that, especially in context of the recent election and its aftermath, then one simply doesn't get what a civil war is.
The left may see this current point in time as the START of a civil war. That is where they are totally missing the point - and will continue to do so.

Posted by: Doof at November 18, 2024 03:31 PM (jgdZo)

368
Going to be plenty of new jobs picking crops, cleaning houses, and in construction labor. You could have LearnedToCode, but the AI is taking that option away. OnlyFans?
Posted by: Candidus at November 18, 2024 03:23 PM (hH5FF)



Once all the illegal aliens self-deport, the now unemployed feebs would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (y9nCu)

369 >> The Federal Reserve is actually independent and privately-owned, so Powell is correct.

However, maybe more Republicans will start to question why our money is created out of thin air by a privately-owned central bank that answers to no one.

Negative ghost rider. The Federal Reserve Act doesn’t even explicitly create the Federal Reserve “chair”. It simply creates the Chair of the Board of Governors. Which is appointed by the president. I’m pretty sure the presidents Article II powers would supersede any motion to challenge his firing. Even so, the president can, as stipulated, demote Jerome to the board.

I look forward to it. The Fed is not independent of the executive. Nor can it usurp congressional powers, statute or not.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (nmw7B)

370 Mass firings begins at Associated Press — 8 percent of employees is just the start.

I'll be in my rack for awhile.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (/U5Yz)

371 Career FBI employees are especially vulnerable, the official added. Since they make less money than they would in the private sector, they rely on the pensions they receive after 20 years.

Eat it, FEEB. Live on social security like everyone else.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (Hh1ER)

372
Once all the illegal aliens self-deport, the now unemployed feebs would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (y9nCu)



I've QUIT better jobs than this!

Posted by: Janine Melnitz at November 18, 2024 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

373 Well if Powell won't leave maybe he needs to get robbed like Seth Rich did. I'm past tired of hearing shit from these people.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2024 03:33 PM (7oYYI)

374 re 354: tradition is that a us atty is allowed to stay if he's in the middle of a case. clinton fired all of them, included one who was investigating one of the clintons' arkansas buddies (forget which one)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:33 PM (CWTWj)

375 nood

Posted by: gp Voted His Way Into This at November 18, 2024 03:33 PM (0I+GC)

376 "Another phrase to remember: personnel is policy.
Posted by: Apocalypse Now! "


So

Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2024 03:33 PM (fV+MH)

377 The guy that suggests the Special Counsel is the traitor.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 18, 2024 03:34 PM (Z8Yh2)

378 Jack Smith is a private citizen, as his appointment was blatantly unconstitutional. No qualified immunity.

Posted by: Candidus at November 18, 2024 03:34 PM (hH5FF)

379 The FED is anti-Constitutional anyway. Purge it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 18, 2024 03:34 PM (xcxpd)

380 Trump didn't go after Hillary because it presented a tremendous loss to him if she skated which she was 99.9999% likely to have done.

Trump now has a case to continue to present to the country about what the Uniparty is doing to it, and I wouldn't bet against him doing just that. But it very likely won't be by "prosecuting Biden".

Posted by: ... at November 18, 2024 03:35 PM (6QbOL)

381 What was above-board about telling the American pubic we must take seriously the claims of some loud-mouthed drunk at a bar claiming Trump paid prostitutes to piss on the Moscow hotel bed Obama slept on?

Because--to this day--not one persons at the FBI has stated publicly that any part, any one single claim, of the Steele Dossier was bullshit--they still stand by every word, phrase and lie.

That's a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud on the People of the United States.
You know, the hopped-up bullshit that Jack Smith has charged Trump with?
But actual, real and in-fact.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 18, 2024 03:35 PM (m77VT)

382
Clinton fired every DOJ lawyer when he entered office.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 18, 2024 03:28 PM (n7h9X)


Didn't GWB do this and the left lost it's f*cking collective mind?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 18, 2024 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)



Yep, they did. The caterwauling was epic.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2024 03:35 PM (y9nCu)

383 The Fed is nominally independent...Powell might have a very good point.

Trump will use the decision on the control of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was also supposedly independent.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that the president can fire at will the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau but left intact the rest of the statute that created the agency.

Posted by: Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei at November 18, 2024 03:35 PM (RHGPo)

384 and new thread, in case no one said so

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 18, 2024 03:36 PM (CWTWj)

385 The McCormick - Casey race is undergoing a recount. This also known as the time when the Democrat candidate enjoys a stunning come from behind victory.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at November 18, 2024 03:36 PM (vO42M)

386 BTW I would love to see Democrats defend Powell after the shitty economic mess we’ve suffered through. Let them stand up and say Powell is a great guy and Article II doesn’t matter. Same with the snakes in the senate. Let have at it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:36 PM (nmw7B)

387
Merrick Garland has been very quiet the last month or so...

Posted by: Auspex at November 18, 2024 03:36 PM (j4U/Z)

388 Clinton fired every DOJ lawyer when he entered office.

That only applied to appointed "political" lawyers

Posted by: Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei at November 18, 2024 03:36 PM (RHGPo)

389 361
Chris Wray's "I'm not leaving" tantrum is just more proof that he is a gatekeeper for the Deep state.

Fuck him. Drag him out and have him walked to his car,office box in hand with News Cameras watching
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (+oR7L)
------------------------

I'd prefer "walk him out and have him dragged to his car," but I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 18, 2024 03:37 PM (QdGJh)

390 The CFPB is toast. Last time Trump defunded it and nobody blinked an eye. Only a left wing court ruling saved it. They are hated by most of the bureaucrats anyway because they are redundant and tried to steal any power they have from other agencies.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:38 PM (nmw7B)

391 Nurse will frolic around the empty city with joy and will not be turning the lights off, or leaving.
Posted by: Sponge

Tee hee!

Amazon is requiring employees to rate FULL TIME starting in January. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is inspiring.

Boeing will hopefully figure it out.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 18, 2024 03:39 PM (XDi3x)

392 At The Telegraph: "Critical undersea internet cable severed amid fears of Russian sabotage"

I wonder if that's true. Might explain the Internet misbehaviors over the last few days.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 18, 2024 03:39 PM (hB7mE)

393 Lawfare: The Situation: Chris Wray, Dead Man Walking
Benjamin Wittes, Friday, November 15, 2024, 4:39 PM

Another Trump Presidency, Another FBI Director Firing

--

Forbes Business Breaking
Can Trump Fire Jerome Powell? Fed Chairman Says He Won’t Resign If Trump Asks, Antonio Pequeño IV
Forbes Staff, Nov 7, 2024

Topline: Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell told reporters Thursday he would not step down from his appointed position if Donald Trump asked him to, saying he’d have no obligation to leave if the president requested it before the end of his term in 2026.

In part, "No president has ever attempted to remove a Federal Reserve chairman from their role before, though, so the authority to do so has not been legally tested."

So, maybe. BTW, did you know 91% of FR employee donations go to the Ds?

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:39 PM (NFX2v)

394 364 Chris Wray says he’s not leaving. Jerome Powell says Trump can’t fire him. They work for the Executive Branch. lol. I’d start packing my shit.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:20 PM (nmw7B)

Powell told Biden and Congress to screw off and made it stick

I don't think he is worried much about Trump.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (D7oie)

Powell, by law, can be fired for "cause"...if Trump wants his gone, finding cause probably won't be difficult...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 18, 2024 03:40 PM (exHjb)

395 Calling Peter Strozk. Please pick up the white courtesy phone. You have a call from Richard Punch on the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Dick schoof at November 18, 2024 03:40 PM (OA79/)

396 Ray "I got a 10 year appointment as head of the FBI."

Trump: "I have decided to change that agreement. Pray I don't change it farther."

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 03:41 PM (Da7Vv)

397 The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of becoming even more of a target

Well, gee, didn't the left do there darndest to out sources of reports to find the "leaks" the last four years? How did they maneuver the levels to go after Trump, making things out of whole cloth? Difference is, what the FIB and DOJ did was worse than malfeasance, it was sedition when Trump was in office...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 18, 2024 03:41 PM (ynpvh)

398 389 361
Chris Wray's "I'm not leaving" tantrum is just more proof that he is a gatekeeper for the Deep state.

Fuck him. Drag him out and have him walked to his car,office box in hand with News Cameras watching
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 18, 2024 03:30 PM (+oR7L)
------------------------

I'd prefer "walk him out and have him dragged to his car," but I'll take what I can get.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 18, 2024 03:37 PM (QdGJh)

Make him carry his shit out in a wb mason box.

Posted by: Dick schoof at November 18, 2024 03:43 PM (OA79/)

399 Sock off

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 18, 2024 03:43 PM (OA79/)

400 I look forward to it. The Fed is not independent of the executive. Nor can it usurp congressional powers, statute or not.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (nmw7B)


Last thing we need is a central bank run by the government. That is how we get hyperinflation

Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:44 PM (D7oie)

401 Chris Wray was appointed by Trump after he fired Comey

Who suggested Wray to him ?

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 18, 2024 03:44 PM (RHGPo)

402 The president can fire any appointed officer according to his Article II powers. Seila Law v CFPB. Remember when they told Trump he couldn’t fire the CFPB head. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:44 PM (nmw7B)

403 Two months after abruptly firing FBI Director James B. Comey in 2017, then-President Donald Trump nominated a new leader for the country’s premier law enforcement agency. Trump’s pick for the 10-year term was Christopher A. Wray, a former top Justice Department official who the president said would serve as “a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity.”

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 18, 2024 03:46 PM (RHGPo)

404 Wikipedia, James Comey -

Donald Trump fired Comey on May 9, 2017.[14][15][16]

How long was James Comey in the FBI?
Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (2013–2017)

How long is the FBI director appointed for?
The FBI is led by a Director, who is appointed by the U.S. President and confirmed by the Senate for a term not to exceed 10 years.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 18, 2024 03:46 PM (NFX2v)

405 “ Last thing we need is a central bank run by the government. That is how we get hyperinflation
Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2024 03:44 PM (D7oie)”

It hasn’t worked out well the other way either. Irrespective, that fear is overblown. Return the power to the Executive and Congress.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:46 PM (nmw7B)

406 Negative ghost rider. The Federal Reserve Act doesn’t even explicitly create the Federal Reserve “chair”. It simply creates the Chair of the Board of Governors. Which is appointed by the president. I’m pretty sure the presidents Article II powers would supersede any motion to challenge his firing. Even so, the president can, as stipulated, demote Jerome to the board.

I look forward to it. The Fed is not independent of the executive. Nor can it usurp congressional powers, statute or not.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 18, 2024 03:32 PM (nmw7B)

The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. It’s a private bank that has the authority to issue legal tender and engage in market operations. This has been repeatedly reaffirmed by court cases.

The solution is simply to end the Fed.

Posted by: Apocalypse Now! at November 18, 2024 03:46 PM (FC8SQ)

407 Wray acted as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s personal attorney during the federal investigation into lane closures leading to the George Washington Bridge that were put in place by members of Christie’s administration as political retribution for a mayor who did not support Christie’s reelection campaign.

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 18, 2024 03:50 PM (RHGPo)

408 He's a Jungle Man.

https://youtu.be/M9DYx6OAYIc

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 18, 2024 03:50 PM (i24o9)

409 I volunteer to become the person to personally eject Christopher Ray's felonious ass from the premises of the FBI, and out into the street using a Bum's Rush, where the US Marshalls arrest him for his weekly misappropriations of a government aircraft.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 18, 2024 03:51 PM (Da7Vv)

410 Feebs can make Nikes. Hell, if slave children in China can do it...
If they chose to jump out a window, well, that's on them.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 18, 2024 03:51 PM (wBaIH)

411 Hey, I could have broke both your knees, instead of only one.
You should be thanking me...

Posted by: Vinny the Enforcer at November 18, 2024 03:57 PM (9ufEO)

412 Forgot the predicate:

> a new $9 a day congestion charge for driving in NYC says the tax would
> have been $15 so they are saving commuters $1500 a year

Hey, I could have broke both your knees, instead of only one.
You should be thanking me...

Posted by: Vinny the Enforcer at November 18, 2024 03:58 PM (9ufEO)

413 The Fed lowered interest rates twice to help Dems election. Based on employment rates that were a deliberate lie. Now they noticed inflation is again rising (wonder why... ), and so will have to increase interest rates.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 18, 2024 03:58 PM (wBaIH)

414 > "But this is a different world."

And who brought us to this "different world"?
'Tis a puzzlement...

Posted by: King of Siam at November 18, 2024 03:59 PM (9ufEO)

415 Sammy Hagar and Guy Fieri are facing a “huge setback” after two trucks for their jointly owned tequila company were hijacked, with over $1 million in product stolen.

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 18, 2024 04:02 PM (RHGPo)

416 30 Biggest hurdle to any of this will be finding a basis for bringing charges outside of DC.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 18, 2024 02:38 PM (Dm8we)
---
Astute comment.

Posted by: thisbeingmilt at November 18, 2024 04:13 PM (wCs9E)

417 President Trump has already to clean up the Deep State and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

STILL not tired of WINNING!

Posted by: Jasonn at November 18, 2024 04:18 PM (26rBB)

418 We may finally have enough people for all the lettuce picking.

Posted by: ThisIsMyNameRightHere at November 18, 2024 04:47 PM (nUedY)

419 18 USC 241, 18 USC 242, 42 USC 1985 all prohibit people, especially government employees, from conspiring with other individuals to deprive someone of any of their Constitutional rights.

Posted by: wferrin at November 18, 2024 05:59 PM (B8BLL)

420 "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fear the people, there is liberty."

Posted by: James at November 18, 2024 06:09 PM (C64a3)

421 We need any disbar any lawyer willing to defend these traitors.
It's time the gander got a taste of what the Orange goose got.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at November 18, 2024 08:25 PM (CycC/)

422 Crucify them.

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