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Disclaimer: Buckwheat flour works great for making gluten-free fried chicken. Just so you know. Much better than general-purpose gluten-free flour. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
G'Day everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 04:08 AM (fwDg9) 2
2nd~
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:09 AM (njWTi) 3
Well China has had a good run with a employee in the White House, hopefully that will change.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 04:10 AM (fwDg9) 4
Pixy-- iirc, buckwheat has a rather strong flavor. Can it be 'overcome' with seasonings, in the chicken-coating?
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:11 AM (njWTi) 5
Happy Saturday!
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2024 04:12 AM (rbKZ6) 6
I was foist on the ONT .....!
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e portatile at November 16, 2024 04:14 AM (i0xsb) 7
Buckwheat-- ah, memories....
Beer-blackberry-buckwheat pancakes, in camp, the morning after celebrating The Full Moon Out In The Woods as teenagers. Hahahaha Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:15 AM (njWTi) 8
4 Pixy-- iirc, buckwheat has a rather strong flavor. Can it be 'overcome' with seasonings, in the chicken-coating?
I like the flavour. It's still there with the seasoning I use but not overwhelming. I'm experimenting with different types of flour; chickpea flour is also good. Tapioca starch works okay and has no flavour of its own, but doesn't hold together as well. Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 16, 2024 04:16 AM (BLOW1) 9
2nd Saturday in row was supposed to work and it got called off, now next Saturday.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 04:17 AM (fwDg9) 10
So, that latest microsnot windoze update didn't brick my desktop... Yay!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:17 AM (njWTi) 11
Pixy, try mesquite flour. A mild nutty taste and gluten free.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2024 04:18 AM (t8vHj) 12
I like the flavour. It's still there with the seasoning I use but not overwhelming. I'm experimenting with different types of flour; chickpea flour is also good. Tapioca starch works okay and has no flavour of its own, but doesn't hold together as well.
Posted by: Pixy Misa ------- Thanks for your report. One of our neighbors has gluten issues now. Good to know what "works" so I can share some holiday goodies that won't make her sick! Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:20 AM (njWTi) 13
Mornin'
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 16, 2024 04:20 AM (C26rB) 14
w00t tho late
Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:21 AM (VnUSN) 15
Ben Had-- I see that you've mentioned mesquite flour a few times, and that it would seemingly lend itself well to chocolatey stuff?
Can you recommend a source? TIA! Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:22 AM (njWTi) Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:23 AM (VnUSN) 17
2nd Saturday in row was supposed to work and it got called off, now next Saturday.
Posted by: Skip ----- Yay! A Surprise Day Off! Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:24 AM (njWTi) 18
Blueberry pancakes if I decide to get up
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 04:25 AM (fwDg9) 19
Yum?
Posted by: m ------- Oh, Yeah!!! We brought buckwheat pancake mix, picked blackberries, and had leftover beer, because KEGGER! the night before. Hangover food, and not bad at all! Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:25 AM (njWTi) 20
JQ, Nuts.com carries it. I am fortunate as I have my own supply. All these mesquite trees had to be good for something.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 16, 2024 04:26 AM (t8vHj) 21
Thanks, Ben Had!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:27 AM (njWTi) 22
I've got to work today. Production is giving me access to a test station I need to update.
They've been in a crunch for a month now trying to fill a backlog from a parts shortage. Someone forgot to order some screws (just kidding!) Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 04:39 AM (QB+5g) Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 04:40 AM (QB+5g) Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 04:43 AM (QB+5g) 25
Must be my breath...
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 04:44 AM (QB+5g) 26
Nah, pawn, you're good. Just dozing off here LOL
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:44 AM (njWTi) 27
Wolfus must be sleeping in today. Heh. He deserves a day off, too.
Guess I'd better hit the hay-- got yardwork to do when daylight comes... Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:47 AM (njWTi) 28
pawn, you're good!
Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:49 AM (VnUSN) 29
Maybe "catastrophic thinking" can account for some of these Trump derangement performances.
Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:52 AM (VnUSN) 30
Morning, Tech Peeps
Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2024 04:53 AM (86W+h) 31
Maybe "I need attention!" explains it?
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:53 AM (njWTi) Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:55 AM (njWTi) 33
31 Maybe "I need attention!" explains it?
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 04:53 AM (njWTi) There's that, too! Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:56 AM (VnUSN) 34
>>> Maybe "catastrophic thinking" can account for some of these Trump derangement performances.
And projection. Lots of projection. Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2024 04:56 AM (86W+h) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 16, 2024 04:57 AM (C26rB) 36
BBC (27 July 2022)
Catastrophising: How toxic thinking leads you down dark paths https://tinyurl.com/2ucp4mmd Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:58 AM (VnUSN) 37
We can make a list! Also "toxic thinking."
Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 04:58 AM (VnUSN) 38
"stinkin' thinkin'"
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 05:02 AM (QB+5g) 39
The key word is "performances".
Everybody is a starrr... They should hold their phone on their face and jump off a building. They would win the combined Academy and Darwin Award. Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2024 05:06 AM (QB+5g) 40
LOL from that 2022 BBC article
To consider another example, imagine that you have serious anxiety about catching Covid-19, which is now occupying all your waking thoughts. ... You could also remind yourself that your vaccination will significantly reduce the risk of severe symptoms.... Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 05:08 AM (VnUSN) 41
Eh, the author is sort of mixed, if we go by what he posts on twitter:
https://nitter.poast.org/d_a_robson Posted by: m at November 16, 2024 05:14 AM (VnUSN) 42
Red flag warning starts at 7AM so I guess I need to go out and start burning the leaves early.
Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2024 05:16 AM (86W+h) 43
G'morning, all!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:17 AM (a1415) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:18 AM (a1415) 45
All these gubmint agents leaving the country makes me think "flight to avoid prosecution."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 16, 2024 05:18 AM (+H2BX) 46
Karoline Leavitt named as Trumps' Press Secretary
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:23 AM (a1415) 47
2nd Saturday in row was supposed to work and it got called off, now next Saturday.
Posted by: Skip Great if you want a day off. Bad if you wanted to make a few extra bucks Posted by: Bruce at November 16, 2024 05:25 AM (zaFN2) 48
So I woke up yesterday to find that the SIM on my iPhone had apparently failed.
To their credit, Verizon tech support on Chat at 5:00am spent an hour getting me backup and running. Rather pleased about the part. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:25 AM (a1415) 49
So much for sleep. Decided to shower. Maybe nap soon? Ugh.
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:27 AM (njWTi) 50
First, it was 43 monkeys...
Now apparently Limu and a friend are on the lam as well. https://tinyurl.com/bdeb8344 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:28 AM (a1415) 51
Emus & monkeys, living together... total chaos!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:33 AM (njWTi) 52
Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 16, 2024 05:34 AM (hoCmQ) 53
Y didn't Tyson throw?
Posted by: Nato at November 16, 2024 05:35 AM (ciuRb) 54
Emus & monkeys, living together... total chaos!
Posted by: JQ Ain't no party like a Emu/Monkey party, cause a Emu/Monkey party don't stop!! Posted by: Bruce at November 16, 2024 05:36 AM (0dnLH) 55
pawn it was good, he stayed out of my way mostly but gave me a hand when needed.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 05:39 AM (fwDg9) 56
Emus and monkeys and otters; Oh my!
Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2024 05:40 AM (86W+h) 57
T-mobile claims it was hacked only a little bit.
LMAO! Is that like being "a little bit pregnant?" Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:43 AM (njWTi) 58
Good morning morons
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 05:45 AM (RIvkX) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:46 AM (a1415) 60
Hi, SFpsycho. Happy Caturday!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:47 AM (njWTi) 61
Of course it's not "cheating" VIA-- they're merely preserving their pReCiOuS dEmOcRaCy!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:48 AM (njWTi) 62
I like the flavour. It's still there with the seasoning I use but not overwhelming. I'm experimenting with different types of flour; chickpea flour is also good. Tapioca starch works okay and has no flavour of its own, but doesn't hold together as well.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 16, 2024 04:16 AM (BLOW1)I like the flavour. It's still there with the seasoning I use but not overwhelming. I'm experimenting with different types of flour; chickpea flour is also good. Tapioca starch works okay and has no flavour of its own, but doesn't hold together as well. Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 16, 2024 04:16 AM (BLOW1) ==== Mrs. F. hs been experimenting with different flours for a while with some great results in flavor and texture. Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 05:52 AM (RIvkX) 63
Good morning! Gonna be another bright sunshiny day here in Cowtown.
Currently I have a box fan in the garage window that runs continuously to keep the space cool and ventilated. Yesterday, I got a 14 inch ventilation fan with a louvered frame to install in the ceiling and some vents to install in the door. The fan even has a thermostat and a remote. Very bougie. Looking forward to having a cooler workspace and being able to shut the window when I'm away. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 16, 2024 05:52 AM (3Ope8) 64
Somebody needs to dump a truckload of DJT ballots into the phoney-baloney fraud machine.
THAT would bring on an investigation, for sure! Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:52 AM (njWTi) 65
3 weeks ago, it was 80F outside. Looking at rain/snow mix tomorrow night. Joy!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 05:56 AM (njWTi) 66
Moral dilema here.
I should be changing to go walk, but one of the kittens has decided to fall asleep while laying on my arm that is resting on the arm of the couch. So in a world of choices, move the kitten, change clothes and go walking in 42 degree weather? Or, continue to hang here, while typing with one hand? True FWP, it is. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:59 AM (a1415) 67
Doc says it's not sciatica but L5 compression causing pain and numbness in left leg. Good news is 1000mg of acetaminophen works ok.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 06:00 AM (RIvkX) 68
I am not huge on buckwheat. I’ve only had buckwheat crêpes and to be honest I didn’t really like them that much.
I did have a win last night. I made fried chicken and it came out amazing with little to no effort. Sure, I have some basic cooking skills, but everyone makes legit fried chicken into this really complicated thing that is hard to do right at home. I cut up some chicken parts. Mixed them with corn flour and seasoning, and threw them in a pot of hot oil. That was the entire recipe. I mentioned this to brag a bit because I didn’t use thermometers or eight different steps but also because I think I figured out that corn flour not cornmeal but corn flour Works really good with fried chicken. Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2024 06:01 AM (CHy6B) 69
Aww... you wouldn't disturb an innocent, sleeping kitty would you?
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 06:01 AM (njWTi) 70
Hi JQ meow
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 06:05 AM (RIvkX) 71
Buckwheat has an 'earthy' or 'wild' flavor... best suited (imo) to complement other strong flavors such as game meats and fresh fruits.
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 06:06 AM (njWTi) 72
I make fried chicken in a skillet-- don't have a deep fryer. Just need to turn the pieces frequently, so they don't overcook/burn on one side. PITA but worth it!
Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 06:10 AM (njWTi) 73
Waffles with fresh berries...it's what's for breakfast!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 16, 2024 06:11 AM (3Ope8) 74
Meow! is right... Cat finally came in. Time for bed. Again.
Some day, I'll get my sleep schedule regulated. I hope. Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 06:12 AM (njWTi) 75
Wolfus must be sleeping in today. Heh. He deserves a day off, too.
Guess I'd better hit the hay-- got yardwork to do when daylight comes... Posted by: JQ at November 16, 2024 *** JQ, if you're still here, yeah, I slept almost seven hours last night. Friday night tends to be my catch-up time. Good luck on the yardwork! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 06:15 AM (omVj0) 76
How is your health Wolfus?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 06:15 AM (RIvkX) 77
Looks like a certain 5 month old, 8.8 pound kitten has decided to wake up.
Time to go change clothes. BBIAB Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 06:15 AM (a1415) 78
TSMC has found a second bomb on the construction site for its latest fab. (Tom's Hardware) Let me guess. The first was the master reels for "Heaven's Gate". Now it's the master reels for "Ishtar". Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 16, 2024 06:22 AM (xG4kz) 79
Evening and morning, early risers and Saturday toilers! 'Tis 59 F. here (at last), actually a little chilly in the apartment, and I'm wearing my thicker robe as I sip my coffee.
Stirling just threw up -- I caught him in time and got him onto the tile floor of the kitchen. The cats do not like Rachael Ray's Nutrish dry food. I bought a small bag to carry them through until this weekend, but Dagny, a picky creature at the best of times, turns up her little short nose at it, and now Stirling has tossed up what he ate. Not a normal response to food from that cat. What do you want, you furry monsters? I mixed good ol' Friskies canned food with it. C'mon, man! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 06:26 AM (omVj0) 80
How is your health Wolfus?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 *** Good, SanFran, thanks for asking. Not too many aches and pains this morning -- maybe because I actually slept enough for a change. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 06:27 AM (omVj0) Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 06:27 AM (oiPXm) 82
59 I have been assured that there is no election cheating going on.
https://tinyurl.com/h55nxmfe Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2024 05:46 AM (a1415) ---------------------- Mark Elias smiles Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 06:30 AM (oiPXm) Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 06:35 AM (xabgH) Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 06:37 AM (u82oZ) 85
Village Idiot's Apprentice
Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor. Have a good walk. FWIW, I've been much more mellow since November 6th. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 06:38 AM (u82oZ) 86
Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at November 16, 2024 06:39 AM (dg+HA) 87
News from the Pentagon....
The Pentagon on Friday failed its seventh audit in a row, with the nation’s largest government agency still unable to fully account for its more than $824 billion budget, though officials stress they are making good progress toward a clean audit in 2028. Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 06:39 AM (YgZzp) 88
83 Babylon Bee has new competition, the Guardian
https://tinyurl.com/5ftbdzdn Posted by: Huck Follywood I think this is why those guys who run Babylon Bee had to make a site called Not The Bee. Reality and satire kept merging. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 16, 2024 06:40 AM (sAmhv) 89
Was Vic added to the missing persons list?
Posted by: Dad of Six at November 16, 2024 06:41 AM (+tnIr) 90
Pardon me, the Absent Friends list.
Posted by: Dad of Six at November 16, 2024 06:42 AM (+tnIr) 91
87 News from the Pentagon....
The Pentagon on Friday failed its seventh audit in a row, with the nation’s largest government agency still unable to fully account for its more than $824 billion budget, though officials stress they are making good progress toward a clean audit in 2028. Posted by: Huck Follywood Friday morning, a longtime Gov worker came in the office and was harrumphing about the future SecDef (hopefully). The future SecDef was just a mere major. Just a Fox Newz personality. Just not ready. I told him we've had nothing but flag officers galore in the SecDef role for decades and it's getting worse and worse. How about trying something different. That was greeted with a grumble grumble. So, the longtime bureaucrats know its broke but do not want it fixed. Won't even admit to who broke it and how. The five sided nut house along the Potomac is a red-hot mess. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 16, 2024 06:45 AM (sAmhv) 92
What's this about an escaped Emu?
Posted by: Doug at November 16, 2024 06:47 AM (PiwSw) 93
Ace mentioned yesterday that Vic will be added to the list, at some point. Not sure who will do it, but it will happen.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 16, 2024 06:47 AM (sAmhv) 94
>Either way keep up the nice high
quality writing, it's uncommon to look a nice blog like this one nowadays.. --- Da, is being good to experience Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 06:48 AM (/7KEl) 95
Got woken up at 4:00 by Diana complaining, then again a little after 5:00. Gave up and started the day anyway. Now sitting in the Command Center with my coffee. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 06:51 AM (JFr+U) 96
Only pay for what you need.
Posted by: Escaped Emu at November 16, 2024 06:54 AM (dg+HA) 97
Hadrian the Seventh
You have a full-on Opera dive there. But some peace and quiet while HM is in Omaha. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 06:55 AM (u82oZ) Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2024 06:55 AM (PiwSw) 99
Week In Pictures is up and, as usual, highky entertaining
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 06:55 AM (txBuo) 100
Spider solitaire is evil
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 06:56 AM (fwDg9) 101
I need a drink.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at November 16, 2024 06:57 AM (dg+HA) 102
How NYPD’s top earner raked in $403K last year — including an eye-popping amount in overtime
Lt. Quathisha Epps, a 19-year veteran in NYPD Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey’s office, pocketed an eye-watering $403,515 in fiscal year 2024, having pulled in $204,453.48 in overtime pay on top of her base salary of $164,477 and fringe benefits, according to city payroll records. https://tinyurl.com/mr4yxftn Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 06:57 AM (/7KEl) 103
you should click for the photo at least
Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 06:58 AM (/7KEl) 104
Not sure what to do today. I have some shopping, but the pens in the kennel also need to be cleaned. Also the lawn needs another going over, but to do that I have to replace the gas filter on the mower. Last time after I ran it for a while, I kept losing power when the deck was engaged. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 06:59 AM (JFr+U) 105
Twenty bucks. Same as in Queens.
Posted by: Quathisha at November 16, 2024 07:00 AM (dg+HA) 106
Hookem Horns
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 07:02 AM (gbOdA) 107
Dad of Six. I emailed ace yesterday asking him to add Vic to the list. Maybe a couple other Horde members could email him as well.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 16, 2024 07:04 AM (2NHgQ) 108
All in all is Kennedy any more of a crack pot that having a Trannie?
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 07:05 AM (fwDg9) 109
Good morning. A clear 43 here in WNC. I can still see the moon over the trees. Going up to 66 today.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 16, 2024 07:11 AM (CxaMi) 110
Powerline was good, somehow William the Concreter was the best
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 07:12 AM (fwDg9) 111
The Titanic meme with the kittehs made me LOL
My kittehs would attempt to push Mrs. F. off the bed all the time. Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 07:17 AM (RIvkX) 112
A *lieutenant* in the NYPD -- still a Lt. after nineteen years! -- snagged 400K in a year? How crooked is that?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:18 AM (omVj0) 113
112 A *lieutenant* in the NYPD -- still a Lt. after nineteen years! -- snagged 400K in a year? How crooked is that?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:18 AM (omVj0 Police payscale sin’t like military, wolf. Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2024 07:20 AM (jgmnb) 114
Being hacked only a little bit is like being stabbed only a little bit.
Posted by: Sassy Fred at November 16, 2024 07:20 AM (RMjVS) 115
To all the lefties and GOP squishes agonizing over cabinet choices, can you name the current head of HHS or the "Director of National Intelligence"? I bet only a minority know who is Defense Secretary or even SecState, and I bet fewer than 10% know who is Treasury Secretary. Can more than five Democrats nane Biden's Commerce or Energy people?
Of course not. So don't sweat the Trump draft choices just yet. Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:20 AM (3RZw1) 116
Usual Saturday errands today: haircut, dropping some videos back at the library, groceries at Aldi, and Miss Linda wants to use a coupon at Whole Paycheck. Tomorrow: workout, wash the car, hit Walmart for anything Aldi did not have.
My weekends are almost as busy as the work week. I hope retirement will make my "workload" easier. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:21 AM (omVj0) 117
It's Saturday mornings where I miss mu dear departed doggies the most. Its going to be a nice day, perfect dor a dog hike in the woods.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:22 AM (3RZw1) 118
106, as an Aggie, I would love to bash the Horns. It is in our dna. But I saw a longhorn football player doing the Trump dance so they have a disposition from me for an undetermined period.
Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2024 07:23 AM (eFBUR) 119
My weekends are almost as busy as the work week. I hope retirement will make my "workload" easier. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere If my experience is any indication, it won't. It will just be different. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 07:24 AM (JFr+U) 120
Good morning.
Posted by: scampydog at November 16, 2024 07:24 AM (YUV/j) Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2024 07:26 AM (YCGTW) 122
My weekends are almost as busy as the work week. I hope retirement will make my "workload" easier.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere * If my experience is any indication, it won't. It will just be different. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 *** At least I should be able to spread the errands over seven days instead of two, and get some more sleep M-F. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:26 AM (omVj0) 123
116, I am not sure if it is nationwide, but I checked on the net so I’m thinking it is. But Wally world is selling a bunch of the reserve Wine Master wines at half-price. The regular selection is about five bucks a bottle and the reserve selections are around four dollars a bottle normally about 10 bucks. Here it is not all of the wines, but the Sauvignon Blanc for sure and I think also the Cabernet. I know where I live people love a deal, but they’re missing out on this one. I guess that’s why they’re down selling it, but it is weird when the reserve is less costly than the average plonk. End never let them tell you Quint isn’t a good guy because most people wouldn’t tell the entire world if they thought there was a deal there lol
Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2024 07:27 AM (eFBUR) 124
The Buckeyes are a four TD favorite today versus Northwestern. Seems light to me; I would have guessed another FG (at least) on top of that.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (mmvPs) 125
The cats at last ate a lot of what I gave them this morning. Little Dagny is grooming on the kitchen floor, and big black Stirling is on the cushion next to me on the couch.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (omVj0) 126
mornin yall. My career as a painter is becoming a slog. I hope my work is appreciated after I am dead and gone.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F) 127
At least I should be able to spread the errands over seven days instead of two, and get some more sleep M-F.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:26 AM (omVj0) ==== But go to Walgreen's on the first Tuesday every month for senior discount day!! Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 07:29 AM (RIvkX) 128
126 mornin yall. My career as a painter is becoming a slog. I hope my work is appreciated after I am dead and gone.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F) ----------- What you need is a good agent and a plan for world domination. Posted by: A. Schicklgruber at November 16, 2024 07:31 AM (hY4dx) 129
I cr@CKED up at the "300 Playset"
Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:32 AM (/7KEl) 130
Water restrictions now in place here in drought-ridden NJ. Not sure why someone would be watering their lawn in mid-November but, whoever you are, you gotta cut it out.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:33 AM (YEi31) 131
126 mornin yall. My career as a painter is becoming a slog. I hope my work is appreciated after I am dead and gone.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F) ----------- What you need is a good agent and a plan for world domination. Posted by: A. Schicklgruber at November 16, 2024 07:31 AM (hY4dx) ------------ Maybe write a book Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:33 AM (YEi31) 132
The dogeater made 32 recess appointments. Suck it up, leftys.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:35 AM (vFG9F) 133
it just feels weird to be laughing out loud at 5am
Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:35 AM (/7KEl) 134
You see, recess appointments are necessary to save our democracy.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2024 07:36 AM (dg+HA) 135
133 it just feels weird to be laughing out loud at 5am
Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:35 AM (/7KEl Winning’ Not weird. Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2024 07:36 AM (jgmnb) 136
Billy Boy made 139 recess appointments. GW Bush made 171!
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:36 AM (vFG9F) 137
Billy Boy made 139 recess appointments. GW Bush made 171!
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:36 AM (vFG9F) Wow that's a lot Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 07:37 AM (SfhV1) 138
One of my personal top five campaign moments, brought to us by The Kiffness
https://tinyurl.com/3tmtaw5b Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:38 AM (Tb5Zp) 139
I can't laugh too loudly if I wake Mrs. F. no blueberry pancakes for me later. I'll wind up with oatmeal.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 07:38 AM (RIvkX) 140
Jen Psaki says “laws have to change” because people are getting information from social media instead of TV
1984 is not a "how to" manual Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 07:39 AM (gbOdA) 141
>>>>>mornin yall. My career as a painter is becoming a slog. I hope my work is appreciated after I am dead and gone.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F) ***** I hate painting. It’s one task that I could do, but happily contract it out. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 16, 2024 07:39 AM (CxaMi) 142
How many rec appts did Trump make in his first term?
Didn't the Senate stay out of any recesses just to foil him in this? Posted by: davidt at November 16, 2024 07:40 AM (i0F8b) 143
"Michael Moore broke his silence about the 2024 election on Wednesday, lashing out at Americans as "not a good people" for electing Donald Trump to a second term by a wide margin"
Move to Canada and choke on a moose dick you commie bastard. Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:41 AM (vFG9F) 144
Lt. Quathisha Epps, a 19-year veteran in NYPD Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey’s office, pocketed an eye-watering $403,515 in fiscal year 2024, having pulled in $204,453.48 in overtime pay on top of her base salary of $164,477 and fringe benefits, according to city payroll records.
https://tinyurl.com/mr4yxftn Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 06:57 AM (/7KEl) Sure...sure...Mom, apple pie, she's a hooker! Posted by: Kojack at November 16, 2024 07:41 AM (R/m4+) 145
One of my personal top five campaign moments, brought to us by The Kiffness
https://tinyurl.com/3tmtaw5b Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2024 07:38 AM (Tb5Zp) He says he's open to performing at the Inauguration. Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 07:41 AM (SfhV1) 146
So far Saturday morning sucks. Just lost 4 years of Quicken data. ARGGGGHHHHHHHHH! Hopefully my IT literate neighbor can help find it.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 16, 2024 07:42 AM (2NHgQ) 147
I am thrilled to announce that Doug Burgum, the Governor of North Dakota, will be joining my Administration as both Secretary of the Interior and, as Chairman of the newly formed, and very important, National Energy Council, which will consist of all Departments and Agencies involved in the permitting, production, generation, distribution, regulation, transportation, of ALL forms of American Energy.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 07:42 AM (gbOdA) 148
But go to Walgreen's on the first Tuesday every month for senior discount day!! Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2024 *** Not the Walgreen's near me now. It's a slime pit. Once I move to a better location and climate, though . . . Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:43 AM (omVj0) 149
Power line picture of Joy Reid and the caption of something like, "Leftists decide to call people racists even more" was funny and true.
Also, I'm am so glad I am not the crying Hillary supporter on the ground and in the black hat and glasses to have my picture all over the internet for the past eight plus years. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2024 07:43 AM (jHXDF) 150
"Jen Psaki says “laws have to change” because people are getting information from social media instead of TV"
I get a lot of news from TV. Did you know that the Skipper's real name was Jonas Grumby? Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:45 AM (vFG9F) 151
Kiffness is continually harassed by his South African government for his political parodies.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 07:45 AM (SfhV1) 152
>So far Saturday morning sucks. Just lost 4 years of Quicken data.
--- ctrl+z after that I got nuthin Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:45 AM (/7KEl) 153
No backups of your Quicken data? Is it possible to run System Restore and put your PC back to a date before the loss?
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:46 AM (vFG9F) 154
So far Saturday morning sucks. Just lost 4 years of Quicken data.
--- ctrl+z after that I got nuthin Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 *** Recycle bin? Or look at your most recent backups? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:47 AM (omVj0) Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 07:47 AM (u82oZ) 156
Kiffness seems to be doing well in his entertainment endeavor, he needs to get out of the Marxist country he lives at.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 07:47 AM (fwDg9) 157
Thank you for your vote. We won because of you.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 07:47 AM (u82oZ) Actually I think it was Rev who put us over the top. He voted after me. Seriously, I was so proud of my state. Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 07:48 AM (SfhV1) 158
Powerline in Pictures was very strong today.
The movie poster for Dune by Quentin Tarantino made me laugh. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 07:48 AM (u82oZ) 159
TSMC has found a second bomb on the construction site for its latest fab. (Tom's Hardware)
There's nothing nefarious afoot, though: The new factory is being built on the former site of a Japanese oil refinery from World War II. A 1000-pound bomb was found there in August, and a second 500-pound bomb made its unwelcome presence known this week. - Just for the record, we now know more about bombs at a Taiwanese semiconductor building site than we do about bombs used in the assassination attempt on the life of the first black female VP during the overthrow attempt of the 4M square miles of the U.S. and entire nationwide government by some people performing a coup by shaking fences on January 6, 2020. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Greater stakes, Karmella lost 10M votes while Trump stayed the same? at November 16, 2024 07:49 AM (5M85S) 160
My blueberry pancakes were good, shame no sausages with them.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 07:49 AM (fwDg9) 161
fd. Thanks. System restore might be an option. Just going to see if it may also be in the Quicken cloud.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 16, 2024 07:50 AM (2NHgQ) 162
If you want to spend a day in the woods but can't go, you may enjoy this. It's a couple I follow, camping in the Upper Pennisula. Beautiful fall colors.
https://tinyurl.com/jmcs9wz3 Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 16, 2024 07:52 AM (gfViB) 163
check drop down menus for any UNDO function
Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:53 AM (/7KEl) 164
If you want to spend a day in the woods but can't go, you may enjoy this. It's a couple I follow, camping in the Upper Pennisula. Beautiful fall colors.
https://tinyurl.com/jmcs9wz3 Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 16, 2024 07:52 AM (gfViB) The U.P. is heaven. Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 07:53 AM (SfhV1) Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 07:55 AM (/7KEl) 166
It would be awesome to see Kiffness performing at the Inauguration. Perhaps he could wear an orange reflective safety vest.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2024 07:55 AM (dg+HA) 167
So Iran in their infinite wisdom listed the places that they were doing nuke research and on purpose left of the new secret bunker they built about 5 years ago.
It was destroyed by the IDF. So now about 90% of their work on nuke is gone. And to tell the world that the IDF destroyed our stuff make them liars for never disclosing. Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 07:57 AM (gbOdA) 168
" I don't think sys restore recovers lost files
unless I'm wrong™️ Posted by: Don Black" It will. I've saved mare than a few client's butts with it. Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 07:59 AM (cuqfS) 169
Time for my shave and shower, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2024 07:59 AM (omVj0) 170
IF DNC "positions Kamala for success" as governor of California, that will be the ultimate proof of the Peter Principle, and one of the first times it's been applied so literally.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 16, 2024 08:01 AM (zdLoL) 171
You can also use "Restore Previous Version" to restore a whole directory too. Make a copy of it before you do it.
Right click on the folder and select Restore Previous Version. Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 08:01 AM (cuqfS) 172
hahaha, thanks for the powerline link. The (I think it's real) Rick Astley campaign poster is fantastic. Easy link so you don't have to search:
https://tinyurl.com/2b6q6ul8 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Greater stakes, Karmella lost 10M votes while Trump stayed the same? at November 16, 2024 08:01 AM (5M85S) 173
If you want to spend a day in the woods but can't go, you may enjoy this. It's a couple I follow, camping in the Upper Pennisula. Beautiful fall colors.
https://tinyurl.com/jmcs9wz3 Posted by: Notsothoreau ----------- Very nice. I'm sitting in the woods this morning. Sunrise in about 20 mins, woods are coming to life. A bit breezy, but looks to be a fine day. Posted by: scampydog at November 16, 2024 08:02 AM (YUV/j) 174
rhennigantx
Internal security in Iran is ... problematic. Just think what a wonderful country they could be if they gave up religious terrorism and switched to tourism, beauty pageants, and film festivals. Young Iranian women ... Hubba hubba. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 08:02 AM (u82oZ) Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 08:03 AM (gbOdA) 176
When I was in college, there were a lot of Persian students. They seemed very worldly. And rich. I wonder what happened to them in the after times.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 08:03 AM (SfhV1) 177
MSNBC:
@PeteHegseth is a “known white supremacist.” Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 08:03 AM (gbOdA) Don't ya just want to throttle them? Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at November 16, 2024 08:05 AM (SfhV1) 178
hey fd, figured you'd enjoy this because it's funny how providence / tiny little almost forgettable moments work.
Son said has decided he wants to become a chemical engineer. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Greater stakes, Karmella lost 10M votes while Trump stayed the same? at November 16, 2024 08:06 AM (5M85S) 179
fd. Thanks for the tips. Long week and not enough coffee and not a techy. Gonna ask for help from the IT neighbor. I do have a file I saved to a thumb drive in August. If he cannot restore what I screwed up this morning I'll reload from the thumb drive and recreate.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 16, 2024 08:06 AM (2NHgQ) 180
Good Morning
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2024 08:07 AM (dR6yv) Posted by: Moron Robbie - Greater stakes, Karmella lost 10M votes while Trump stayed the same? at November 16, 2024 08:08 AM (5M85S) 182
MSNBC. Known for stupidity, lying and generally being asshats. Isn't that the joy reid channel?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 16, 2024 08:08 AM (2NHgQ) 183
Morning peeps. It looks like another cloudy, cool and gloomy day here. The property still needs to be mowed. If it ever dries out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 16, 2024 08:09 AM (Q4IgG) 184
Ahhh, sticking to that "white supremacy" thing? They'll never get it, will they?
I guess when you live in an area that votes 93% Dem, you're not even aware what an out of touch bubble you're in. Posted by: Wally at November 16, 2024 08:10 AM (dYsEX) 185
Have a wonderful day, everyone.
Winter wheat is popping up, adding a beautiful deep green color to the dun fields. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 08:11 AM (u82oZ) 186
It would be nice if Trump offered TSMC an incentive to build a chip-fab here in the US.
Posted by: Halfhand at November 16, 2024 08:12 AM (H93Ry) 187
https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com
/2024/11/blog-post_16.html This is funny, alternative Snow White ending Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 08:13 AM (fwDg9) 188
184 Ahhh, sticking to that "white supremacy" thing? They'll never get it, will they?
I guess when you live in an area that votes 93% Dem, you're not even aware what an out of touch bubble you're in. Posted by: Wally at November 16, 2024 08:10 AM (dYsEX) What the new white supremacy means is not total subjugation to DEI. Rejecting any part of DEI makes you a white supremist. Posted by: rhennigantx at November 16, 2024 08:13 AM (gbOdA) 189
Before winter does get here I better continue leaf collection
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 08:13 AM (fwDg9) 190
"Son said has decided he wants to become a chemical engineer.
Posted by: Moron Robbie" Wow, that's quite an aspiration. I hope he does well. The field has many opportunities. Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 08:16 AM (vFG9F) 191
Notice I did not react with a pun.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 08:18 AM (vFG9F) 192
What's MSNBC? Why is anyone watching it?
Wouldn't your time be better spent reading about Bat Boy in The Weekly World News? Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2024 08:18 AM (dg+HA) 193
Winter wheat is popping up, adding a beautiful deep green color to the dun fields. Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2024 08:11 AM (u82oZ) When I lived in Ohio, I'd always like seeing winter wheat pop up and later start growing. Now that I'm in the Southland, I try to determine in the fall what's going to be grown next year by how the fields are plowed. While we generally see corn, soybeans and occasionally sorghum, my favorite is rice. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 08:18 AM (JFr+U) 194
All the racial silliness was gone in the 90s. By bringing it back and constantly kindling the flames they're accomplishing exactly the same thing they accomplished with the rainbow bunch.
People are going to start noticing things if they're not careful. All they had to do was leave it alone, but no, they couldn't. And now folks will start noticing that Asians have succeeded, and Mexicans have succeeded, but blacks have continued to wallow. And the conversation will eventually reach the truth. The government has caused blacks to remain where they are. The systemic racism they keep talking about is purposeful programs by Democrats to damage black families and hurt black people as a whole. So yes, let's continue the conversation. Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 16, 2024 08:20 AM (AAvt3) 195
Little breezy but not cold
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 08:23 AM (fwDg9) 196
The government has caused blacks to remain where they are. The systemic racism they keep talking about is purposeful programs by Democrats to damage black families and hurt black people as a whole. So yes, let's continue the conversation. Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 16, 2024 08:20 AM (AAvt3) If the Democrats really cared about the poor and helping them to leave poverty, they and their academic outriders wouldn't propose so many stupid policies that keep the poor that way. Know why Asians and Hispanics move up? Stronger families. Know who's promoting "non-traditional" "Heather has two mommies" "no-fault divorce" "matriarchical culture" families? Democrats. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2024 08:23 AM (JFr+U) 197
CJN Speaks takes a little while to get on Spotify
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2024 08:24 AM (fwDg9) 198
190 "Son said has decided he wants to become a chemical engineer.
Posted by: Moron Robbie" Here's a joke to get him started. "How do you tell a chemical engineer from a union organizer? Ask him to pronounce "unionized." Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (PiwSw) 199
Good lord. Nerf and Airsoft are making gun nutz out of kids.
I want to get my kid something to harass the squirrels and feral cats. She is a bird lover. Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (IG7T0) 200
This racial strife is Obama's legacy. Every time there's commentary with something racist thrown in I mention to anyone listening it's his fault. There are not as many arguments about it as you'd expect once people give it just a little thought.
But there are some diehards out there. They're the real racists. Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (Q4IgG) 201
Around here the cotton is ready. It looks like a good crop this year. It must be because of climate change.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F) 202
"T-Mobile for its own part says the attack was industry-wide and it was only hacked a little bit, which is not immensely reassuring."
Uh huh. There's a pattern of disclosure from these hacked companies with a week or two between press releases: 1) They only got a little bit in, we're pretty sure they got nothing of consequence. (When there's been no time to conduct and actual investigation.) 2) The hack got more than we originally realized. They got some customer information, but nothing confidential. 3) We've discovered they got into the critical systems. We're not sure how much confidential information they got. 4) Investigation continues, but we recommend based on what we've found that everyone monitor their credit card statements closely and report any unexpected charges to their CC company. 5) Everything. They got everything. Sorry-not-sorry. (There may or may not be an offer to pay for credit protection for everyone for a year.) We promise to do better in future. Your privacy and security is our primary focus. (Haha, no, otherwise this never would have happened. We are filthy liars, but you should totally reward us with more of your money.) Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (O7YUW) 203
>Young Iranian women ... Hubba hubba.
Posted by: NaCly Dog --- i know right that part of the world has its share of beautiful women; unfortunately covered head to toe by the mad mullahs Posted by: Don Black at November 16, 2024 08:26 AM (/7KEl) 204
118 106, as an Aggie, I would love to bash the Horns. It is in our dna. But I saw a longhorn football player doing the Trump dance so they have a disposition from me for an undetermined period.
But Aggies now are all dysfunctional mutants since they abandoned Bonfire. The fall of the once great Texas A&M began with the sacking of the legendary Jackie Sherrill, and then sealed by ending bonfire. Now its just yet another woke university. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 16, 2024 08:26 AM (rHxhM) 205
5) Everything. They got everything. Sorry-not-sorry. (There may or may not be an offer to pay for credit protection for everyone for a year.) We promise to do better in future. Your privacy and security is our primary focus. (Haha, no, otherwise this never would have happened. We are filthy liars, but you should totally reward us with more of your money.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 16, 2024 08:25 AM (O7YUW) 6 ) This all happened six months ago. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2024 08:27 AM (PiwSw) 206
Good lord. Nerf and Airsoft are making gun nutz out of kids.
I want to get my kid something to harass the squirrels and feral cats. She is a bird lover. Go to Harbor Freight and get your kids a sling shot. Develop stealth attack skills. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 16, 2024 08:28 AM (rHxhM) 207
Nood.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2024 08:30 AM (PiwSw) 208
"Go to Harbor Freight and get your kids a sling shot. Develop stealth attack skills.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure " This is a great idea. They are easy enough to make too. I'm a pretty good shot with one and used to wow the Cub Scouts with my skill at punching holes in the center of a pie pan with chickpeas and my homemade slingshot. Posted by: fd at November 16, 2024 08:33 AM (vFG9F) 209
Wow, that's quite an aspiration. I hope he does well. The field has many opportunities.
Posted by: fd - I didn't think much of it at first, but he kept wanting to tinker with that chemistry set. Then he wanted some models and other related stuff, and now he's asking for books for Christmas. So it seems to be more than just a passing fad. We'll see. I explained to him that he'd be taking on the equivalent of two or three majors combined, and that I'd do whatever I could to help. Which would mean tutors most likely, because there's a reason I didn't pursue chemistry. He's wired a bit differently mentally, so maybe that developmental/social tradeoff will be the key. It's funny because a few years ago we weren't even sure if he was going to be "average" academically. Anyway, thanks for that inspiration. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Greater stakes, Karmella lost 10M votes while Trump stayed the same? at November 16, 2024 08:33 AM (5M85S) 210
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