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Are We In The Endgame Of The Ukraine Fiasco? Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, And Boeing Hardest Hit!
What a shock! Russia is slowly grinding up Ukraine's resources and army, which should surprise exactly nobody with two neurons to rub together.
This isn't an unexpected twist either. Russia is almost five times the size of Ukraine by population, and 10 times the size by GDP. And in a war in which both sides are using roughly the same tactics and strategy, the larger country will have the advantage. The West is busily sending its own stocks of advanced weaponry to Ukraine, but the results are resoundingly disappointing. And that shouldn't be a surprise. The Ukrainian army is by now mostly conscripts, and advanced weaponry wielded by a barely-trained army may provide a modest advantage, but not a resounding one. Russia makes substantial gains in Ukraine's eastOctober of 2024 was the most militarily successful month for Russia since July of 2022. After months of sustained pressure, and mostly stagnant front lines, Russian troops have broken through and made significant gains in the Donbas region of Ukraine. According to the New York Times, Russian forces have secured more than 160 square miles there, and are capturing strategic towns along the way. It seems as though the next goal for Russians in the Donbas is to take the strategic rail town, Pokrovsk, which would seriously inhibit Ukraine's ability to resupply its forces in the region. Encirclement of this strategic city is likely as Ukraine has likely lost Selydove this week, a city which is only about 20 miles south of Pokrovsk.
It is tempting to assume that the West's technological advantage over Russian weaponry will save the day for the kleptocrats in Kiev (Kkyyeeevv?), much like the Israeli technological advantage over the terrorists in Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, and elsewhere. But those Israeli soldiers are very well trained, are drawn from a technologically advanced country, and are immensely patriotic. And most of all, the Israeli battle doctrine rarely calls for set battles on defined fronts, preferring to bring force to bear only after developing good intelligence and preparing the battle space. Ukraine does not have that luxury, or possibly even the ability. Sadly, the West is quite happy to fight to the last Ukrainian soldier, even when the reality is that Russia will probably hold some of Ukraine regardless of future battles. Absent NATO troops and WWIII, is there any rational scenario that ends with a Russian withdrawal to the status quo ante bellum? One of the many flaws in American and Western foreign policy is the inability to understand the other side. The military theorist Liddell Hart wrote about understanding "the other side of the hill," which is nothing more than what and why the other side is thinking. The Russian psyche is not complicated. Why does the West not understand that an expansion of NATO to the borders of Russia is a direct challenge to the Russian bear? Fomenting political revolution in a country on Russia's border is a threat in the minds of the Russian political class and, probably, in the minds of its people. This goes back to at least 2008, when George Bush offered NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia. The Obama administration had a hand in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution that got rid of Victor Yanukovych in favor of a more western oriented president. How would America respond if Russia did the same thing in Mexico? This is not an argument in support of Putin and his thuggish behavior and policies, but it is a recognition that in the absence of a clear strategic necessity for America, perhaps the best policy would be, "a pox on both their houses!"
[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]
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I'll fetch em
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9)
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There are no good guys in this war
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:01 PM (IyPmt)
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Grabs my thought, better weapons need better soldiers
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:03 PM (fwDg9)
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Donna 👍
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:04 PM (fwDg9)
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BOING!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:04 PM (VFJAx)
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what do you call a constitutional conservative who seeks to avoid foreign wars
Posted by: Don Black at November 03, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)
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>>> Are We In The Endgame Of The Ukraine Fiasco? Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, And Boeing Hardest Hit!
This excludes the NPCs.
But they do not have any real emotions so cannot really be hurt.
This excludes the NPCs.
But they do not have any real emotions so cannot really be hurt.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 03, 2024 12:05 PM (/lPRQ)
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Welcome to the party, pal.
The Ukraine war still has a long way to go. Russia still has to take the entire coastline of Ukraine, whether they want to or not, and that includes Odessa.
The Ukraine war still has a long way to go. Russia still has to take the entire coastline of Ukraine, whether they want to or not, and that includes Odessa.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:05 PM (eSLO+)
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A very wet wild F-1 Grand Prix in Brazil going on
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
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David Frum has broken the code!
David Frum@davidfrum
"Liz Cheney is a warmonger" is code for "I will betray Ukraine and Taiwan."
David Frum@davidfrum
"Liz Cheney is a warmonger" is code for "I will betray Ukraine and Taiwan."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:06 PM (L/fGl)
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In they 80's or so, I recall my military brother saying, in their war games with the Russians, we always lost.
While we had better tech, they would overwhelm us with numbers.
But, our politicians were sure that burning pallets of $100 bills in Ukraine would stop Russia.
The 10% vig they are getting off of each pallet really convinced them of that.
While we had better tech, they would overwhelm us with numbers.
But, our politicians were sure that burning pallets of $100 bills in Ukraine would stop Russia.
The 10% vig they are getting off of each pallet really convinced them of that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (xkwZj)
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I would not believe this! But the US and EU do not recognize Georgian (the one in the Caucuses) election results ! Even after the recount! Does this remind you of anything? Why yes it does. Ukraine 2014...like 10 years ago!
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)
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Really never thought Russia's goal was a total takeover at least for now.
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (fwDg9)
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The Russians need to raise a corps of Bedouins mounted on camels. to conduct raids, and blow up trains headed to Pokrovsk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (+8Ln3)
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and by "I" I man "You"...
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)
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what do you call a constitutional conservative who seeks to avoid foreign wars
Posted by: Don Black at November 03, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)
A racist rapist.
Posted by: Don Black at November 03, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)
A racist rapist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...post-modernist at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (d9fT1)
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David Frum is the Jen Rubin of David Frums.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 12:08 PM (DDGz9)
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The Ukraine war is like the election; I just want it over.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
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The Russians need to raise a corps of Bedouins mounted on camels. to conduct raids, and blow up trains headed to Pokrovsk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (+8Ln3)
Humpniks?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (+8Ln3)
Humpniks?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 12:08 PM (DDGz9)
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NC Early voting.
Early voting is over in NC
Over 57% of registered voters cast their ballots in EV.
In the 25 NC counties affected by Hurricane Helene, 58.9% voted in EV.
4.2 million ballots were cast in 2024, compared to 3.6M in 2020.
Early voting is over in NC
Over 57% of registered voters cast their ballots in EV.
In the 25 NC counties affected by Hurricane Helene, 58.9% voted in EV.
4.2 million ballots were cast in 2024, compared to 3.6M in 2020.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (rj6Yv)
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why did US insist on adding Ukraine to NATO
1) deliberately provocative
2) NATO is a paper tiger anyway
3) the other side has nukes just as us
unless I'm wrong™️
1) deliberately provocative
2) NATO is a paper tiger anyway
3) the other side has nukes just as us
unless I'm wrong™️
Posted by: Don Black at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)
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and by "I" I man "You"...
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)
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And by "man", you mean "mean."
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)
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And by "man", you mean "mean."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (VFJAx)
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NC Early voting.
Early voting is over in NC
Over 57% of registered voters cast their ballots in EV.
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how does that compare to 2020 ?
NC Early voting.
Early voting is over in NC
Over 57% of registered voters cast their ballots in EV.
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how does that compare to 2020 ?
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)
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First Peanut, then you.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (uxCna)
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Poland, Hungary, and Romania also have historical claims on "Ukrainian" territory. Watch for them to make land grabs as the current Ukrainian regime collapses.
"Ukraine" started out about the size of Texas. When this is over, it will be about the size of Ohio.
"Ukraine" started out about the size of Texas. When this is over, it will be about the size of Ohio.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (eSLO+)
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And by "man", you mean "mean."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (VFJAx)
that too!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (VFJAx)
that too!
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:11 PM (V13WU)
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2 There are no good guys in this war
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:01 PM (IyPmt)
Russians are the worser bad guys.
When the coup government here declares martial law after the election the reluctant call will go out that we have squirrels to kill domestically, and America cuts and runs and betrays again.
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:01 PM (IyPmt)
Russians are the worser bad guys.
When the coup government here declares martial law after the election the reluctant call will go out that we have squirrels to kill domestically, and America cuts and runs and betrays again.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:11 PM (j4U/Z)
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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:09 PM (VFJAx)
Did you see that Eiland suggested an occupation of Northern Gaza?
And it was in Haaretz!
Did you see that Eiland suggested an occupation of Northern Gaza?
And it was in Haaretz!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (d9fT1)
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UN excepting Ukraine keeps the war go I ng and bigger
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (fwDg9)
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much like the Israeli technological advantage over the terrorists in Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, and elsewhere.
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Sad news for Kamala.
Election Wizard@ElectionWiz
JUST IN — Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib, a Palestinian American and “squad” member, declines to endorse Harris
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Kamie doesn’t hate Jews enough.
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Sad news for Kamala.
Election Wizard@ElectionWiz
JUST IN — Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib, a Palestinian American and “squad” member, declines to endorse Harris
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Kamie doesn’t hate Jews enough.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (V13WU)
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What really worries me is that we are giving Russia real-world testing on how to beat our best equipment.
So while our guys are studying the latest "Pronoun Identification and Pronunciation" guide, they are out there killing people and breaking things.
So while our guys are studying the latest "Pronoun Identification and Pronunciation" guide, they are out there killing people and breaking things.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (xkwZj)
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"The Russian psyche is not complicated. Why does the West not understand that an expansion of NATO to the borders of Russia is a direct challenge to the Russian bear?"
Russian distrust of other nations is not unjustified. Near the end of World War I, the US, UK, and Japan sent armed troops to far Northwestern Russia and the Vladivostok area to do (I've forgotten exactly what). Some of those forces fought the local Bolsheviks for a short time. The last troops were not withdrawn till after the Nov. 11, 1911 Armistice in the West.
Russian distrust of other nations is not unjustified. Near the end of World War I, the US, UK, and Japan sent armed troops to far Northwestern Russia and the Vladivostok area to do (I've forgotten exactly what). Some of those forces fought the local Bolsheviks for a short time. The last troops were not withdrawn till after the Nov. 11, 1911 Armistice in the West.
Posted by: Gref at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (aBgBM)
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There is a horrific video of Ukrainian cops press-ganging some unfortunate who then died of a heart attack in front of his wife.
Yeah, things are not going well.
Yeah, things are not going well.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (uxCna)
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I suspect "the plan" is to steal the election and announce a draft shortly thereafter invading Russia.
After all "the people voted for it" and everyone allowed on TV from the right from Goldberg to Hewitt to Stephens will agree we need to fight Vlad to save democracy.
Anyone that disagrees will be imprisoned of course
After all "the people voted for it" and everyone allowed on TV from the right from Goldberg to Hewitt to Stephens will agree we need to fight Vlad to save democracy.
Anyone that disagrees will be imprisoned of course
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:13 PM (oZhjI)
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Cash.
Cash is the only reason for any of this bullshit. Why did they try to expand NATO in the first place? Why make a dithering bullshit pose on day 2, guaranteeing a long drawn out shitfest, rather than going to the mattresses on day 1? Why send juuuuuust enough splodey shit to keep the cossacks viable but not victorious as the shitfest shat on over the months?
Someone is making a buck. That's all there is to it.
Cash is the only reason for any of this bullshit. Why did they try to expand NATO in the first place? Why make a dithering bullshit pose on day 2, guaranteeing a long drawn out shitfest, rather than going to the mattresses on day 1? Why send juuuuuust enough splodey shit to keep the cossacks viable but not victorious as the shitfest shat on over the months?
Someone is making a buck. That's all there is to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 12:13 PM (DDGz9)
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i wonder how the dems rationalize their made-up fearmongering of DRUMPF cancelling elections, while supporting Ukraine which actually did cancel all elections and became a closed borders iron curtain dictatorship.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:13 PM (CFNof)
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The last troops were not withdrawn till after the Nov. 11, 1911 Armistice in the West.
Posted by: Gref
Messing with the timeline, I see.
Posted by: Gref
Messing with the timeline, I see.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 03, 2024 12:14 PM (KAi1n)
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Did you see that Eiland suggested an occupation of Northern Gaza?
And it was in Haaretz!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (d9fT1)
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Didn't see and too little too late and I don't think they're going to "occupy" anything other than Rariach's Philadelphia Quarter at the most.
Losers at the helm!
And it was in Haaretz!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (d9fT1)
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Didn't see and too little too late and I don't think they're going to "occupy" anything other than Rariach's Philadelphia Quarter at the most.
Losers at the helm!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:14 PM (VFJAx)
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>>> In they 80's or so, I recall my military brother saying, in their war games with the Russians, we always lost.
Using Alaska as the launchpad to invade Russia is probably not a good idea. To wargame the same scenario over and over again is not likely to change the results.
/No real secrets were leaked with the above.
Using Alaska as the launchpad to invade Russia is probably not a good idea. To wargame the same scenario over and over again is not likely to change the results.
/No real secrets were leaked with the above.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 03, 2024 12:14 PM (/lPRQ)
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Poland, Hungary, and Romania also have historical claims on "Ukrainian" territory. Watch for them to make land grabs as the current Ukrainian regime collapses.
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Don't forget us!
- Neanderthal Liberation Army
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Don't forget us!
- Neanderthal Liberation Army
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl)
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What I find a bit unsettling about our involvement with the Ukraine - Russia war is our arming Ukraine with some of our most modern weapons systems. Systems that capabilities had only been theorized because they hadn't been used in war, or publicly before.
Many pixels have been spilled on how well, or poorly they performed, their abilities, weaknesses, etc.
Now, quite a few of those systems have been examined in great detail not only by Russia, but our other adversaries as well. Notably, China and Iran.
Many pixels have been spilled on how well, or poorly they performed, their abilities, weaknesses, etc.
Now, quite a few of those systems have been examined in great detail not only by Russia, but our other adversaries as well. Notably, China and Iran.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (Q4IgG)
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Pretty sure that's the Russian plan -- take Odessa, turn Ukraine into a landlocked rump, and let Poland, Hungary, and Romania fight over the scraps.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (no0mj)
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After the last 16 years I don't even excuse the Ukraine stupidity on neocon hubris and the military industrial complex of having wars as an excuse to build more fancy weapons.
I think a group of politicians and influential bureaucrats in DC are risking WWIII to protect their corrupt grifting, the evil bastids.
I think a group of politicians and influential bureaucrats in DC are risking WWIII to protect their corrupt grifting, the evil bastids.
Posted by: PaleRider, deplorable basket of garbage at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (CKOCg)
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Supposedly North Korean troops are now fighting with the Russians. If the Russians were on the verge of a win, why bring those troops over?
Vlad has been trying to minimize the impact of the war on Russian normies.
He sent in mercs and prisoners early on. And the draftees mostly don't see the front lines. Paying the Norks is likely an extension of this strategy.
Vlad has been trying to minimize the impact of the war on Russian normies.
He sent in mercs and prisoners early on. And the draftees mostly don't see the front lines. Paying the Norks is likely an extension of this strategy.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (oZhjI)
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Sound words from my pastor on voting:
"A correct conscience will recognize that there are certain choices that always involve doing evil, and could never be used as a means to an end... These are always evil, regardless of circumstances... To vote for someone who takes a permissive stand on these issues when there is a morally acceptable alternative would be a grave sin. If there are no alternatives, then we must vote for the lesser of two evils to protect as many innocent lives as possible. We would not commit a sin to vote for someone who is not totally acceptable in order to defeat one who poses an even greater threat to human life and dignity. Voting is a moral act that involves duty and responsibility. Therefore, we must form our conscience properly in the light of the truth of our Faith."
Sound words from my pastor on voting:
"A correct conscience will recognize that there are certain choices that always involve doing evil, and could never be used as a means to an end... These are always evil, regardless of circumstances... To vote for someone who takes a permissive stand on these issues when there is a morally acceptable alternative would be a grave sin. If there are no alternatives, then we must vote for the lesser of two evils to protect as many innocent lives as possible. We would not commit a sin to vote for someone who is not totally acceptable in order to defeat one who poses an even greater threat to human life and dignity. Voting is a moral act that involves duty and responsibility. Therefore, we must form our conscience properly in the light of the truth of our Faith."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (EsZUh)
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I think the key objective has been achieved - keeping Ukraine from collapsing before the Presidential election.
As for the future, the Russians are clearly starting to move forward, albeit very slowly.
As for the future, the Russians are clearly starting to move forward, albeit very slowly.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:16 PM (uxCna)
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>>> 43 What I find a bit unsettling about our involvement with the Ukraine - Russia war is our arming Ukraine with some of our most modern weapons systems. Systems that capabilities had only been theorized because they hadn't been used in war, or publicly before.
Many pixels have been spilled on how well, or poorly they performed, their abilities, weaknesses, etc.
Now, quite a few of those systems have been examined in great detail not only by Russia, but our other adversaries as well. Notably, China and Iran.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (Q4IgG)
Brandon *gave* a fckton of our stuff to the Tollybon who of course sold much of it to CHYna.
Many pixels have been spilled on how well, or poorly they performed, their abilities, weaknesses, etc.
Now, quite a few of those systems have been examined in great detail not only by Russia, but our other adversaries as well. Notably, China and Iran.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:15 PM (Q4IgG)
Brandon *gave* a fckton of our stuff to the Tollybon who of course sold much of it to CHYna.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 03, 2024 12:16 PM (0s6uJ)
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how does that compare to 2020 ?
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)
"4.2 million ballots were cast in 2024, compared to 3.6M in 2020"
Those are EV numbers.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)
"4.2 million ballots were cast in 2024, compared to 3.6M in 2020"
Those are EV numbers.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 12:16 PM (rj6Yv)
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Kyle Shideler
@ShidelerK
3h
This is why we lost two wars in 20 years, including a humiliating surrender to the Taliban.
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National Security Leaders for America
@NSLforAmerica
Nov 2
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
@ShidelerK
3h
This is why we lost two wars in 20 years, including a humiliating surrender to the Taliban.
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National Security Leaders for America
@NSLforAmerica
Nov 2
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Hunter Bidet at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (PEVia)
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also, the EU and the dems don't recognize actually lawful georgian elections and call them illegal. all that because some eurosceptic party fairly won.
and they say hungary is anti-democratic because it doesn't allow unlimited migrants.
i wouldn't say the world left are democracy hating fascists, i just say if they were fascist they would act no differently
and they say hungary is anti-democratic because it doesn't allow unlimited migrants.
i wouldn't say the world left are democracy hating fascists, i just say if they were fascist they would act no differently
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (CFNof)
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"Ukraine" started out about the size of Texas. When this is over, it will be about the size of Ohio.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (eSLO+)
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Wake me when it's the size of Rhode Island.
"Ukraine" started out about the size of Texas. When this is over, it will be about the size of Ohio.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:10 PM (eSLO+)
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Wake me when it's the size of Rhode Island.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (EsZUh)
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He sent in mercs and prisoners early on. And the draftees mostly don't see the front lines. Paying the Norks is likely an extension of this strategy.
Putin has been relying on high military wages to recruit volunteers (as noted, draftees are not sent to Ukraine).
He's conducting a war of attrition, increasingly successfully.
Putin has been relying on high military wages to recruit volunteers (as noted, draftees are not sent to Ukraine).
He's conducting a war of attrition, increasingly successfully.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (uxCna)
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Nov 2
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (NpAcC)
Government...Doubt it will matter to the "folks"
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (NpAcC)
Government...Doubt it will matter to the "folks"
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (IyPmt)
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This isn't an unexpected twist either. Russia is almost five times the size of Ukraine by population, and 10 times the size by GDP. And in a war in which both sides are using roughly the same tactics and strategy, the larger country will have the advantage.
You know who else believed he could defeat Russia even though Russia was 10 times his country's size?
You know who else believed he could defeat Russia even though Russia was 10 times his country's size?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (guGkK)
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Now, quite a few of those systems have been examined in great detail not only by Russia, but our other adversaries as well. Notably, China and Iran.
I suspect the Chinese already had access to our technology.
And the Russians are less of a danger to the average American then...the American government. So...TBH I'm not that concerned about this.
Oh, one weird thing about military tech - early on the Ukes were crowing about sinking some Russian ships. They used a missile that had been developed by...the Norks, and after the breakup of the Soviet Union. I couldn't find anything on how the Ukes got the missile system though the obvious answer was they had bought it at some point between 2014 and 2021.
I suspect the Chinese already had access to our technology.
And the Russians are less of a danger to the average American then...the American government. So...TBH I'm not that concerned about this.
Oh, one weird thing about military tech - early on the Ukes were crowing about sinking some Russian ships. They used a missile that had been developed by...the Norks, and after the breakup of the Soviet Union. I couldn't find anything on how the Ukes got the missile system though the obvious answer was they had bought it at some point between 2014 and 2021.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (oZhjI)
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The single greatest flaw in Israel’s Gaza strategy is that Israel refuses to admit that they have to set up an occupation government in Gaza. If they don’t, then the instant they leave, UNWRA and Hamas set up shop again and they have to reinvade; this has happened twice in Jabaliyah already. It’s either set up an occupation, or fight war without end there, and that is a very bad policy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (S6gqv)
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UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (guGkK)
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There is no truth to the rumor that we funneled a bunch of money and tech bribes to get their rocket program on track... to North Korea to get them to make the Ukraine Conflict hotter with NK troops. No basis in truth. Totally false. Would I lie to you?
Posted by: The Liz Cheney Institute For Squirrel Murder at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (QFb2q)
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"4.2 million ballots were cast in 2024, compared to 3.6M in 2020"
Those are EV numbers.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 12:16 PM (rj6Yv)
lol..the time change is affecting me ..
Those are EV numbers.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 12:16 PM (rj6Yv)
lol..the time change is affecting me ..
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (V13WU)
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Wake me when it's the size of Rhode Island.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (EsZUh)
And... 3... 2... 1.....
..."THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:17 PM (EsZUh)
And... 3... 2... 1.....
..."THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (DDGz9)
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> Supposedly North Korean troops are now fighting with the Russians. If the Russians were on the verge of a win, why bring those troops over?
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The DPRK was supplying Putin with a shit-ton of artillery rounds. I think there was some agreement between Putin and Kim to bring in several thousand NoRK troops so they could get some "battlefield experience."
As there's been increased tensions at the DMZ between the Korea's this would make getting some warfighting experience for the North Korean Army regulars some bit of sense. Even if it's only for show.
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The DPRK was supplying Putin with a shit-ton of artillery rounds. I think there was some agreement between Putin and Kim to bring in several thousand NoRK troops so they could get some "battlefield experience."
As there's been increased tensions at the DMZ between the Korea's this would make getting some warfighting experience for the North Korean Army regulars some bit of sense. Even if it's only for show.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (Q4IgG)
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Fun fact:
Warmonger Liz Cheney has an eighteen-year-old son and a twenty-year old son.
Think either of them will be joining the military?
Liz wants to kill your sons in her wars, not hers.
Warmonger Liz Cheney has an eighteen-year-old son and a twenty-year old son.
Think either of them will be joining the military?
Liz wants to kill your sons in her wars, not hers.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: Eric Swallwell at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (guGkK)
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Putin has been relying on high military wages to recruit volunteers (as noted, draftees are not sent to Ukraine).
I've wondered for a while why the American answer to "people don't want to join the military" is never...raise salaries.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
I've wondered for a while why the American answer to "people don't want to join the military" is never...raise salaries.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Zombie Dianne Feinstein at November 03, 2024 12:21 PM (guGkK)
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There is a horrific video of Ukrainian cops press-ganging some unfortunate who then died of a heart attack in front of his wife.
Yeah, things are not going well.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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It is always better to be a 'recruiter' than to serve on the line.
Yeah, things are not going well.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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It is always better to be a 'recruiter' than to serve on the line.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 03, 2024 12:21 PM (/lPRQ)
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This isn't an unexpected twist either. Russia is almost five times the size of Ukraine by population, and 10 times the size by GDP.
What's funny is that the same thing is true of Russia vs the EU. Their is no way Russia could occupy significant parts of the EU... they just don't have the manpower to do it.
Yet, that is the constant drumbeat of the NeoCons. That Russia will invade the West... and so now we have US Armored Forces sitting DIRECTLY on the Russian Border.
Can you imagine a Russian or Chinese Division sitting in Northern Mexico? We'd go apeshit.
What's funny is that the same thing is true of Russia vs the EU. Their is no way Russia could occupy significant parts of the EU... they just don't have the manpower to do it.
Yet, that is the constant drumbeat of the NeoCons. That Russia will invade the West... and so now we have US Armored Forces sitting DIRECTLY on the Russian Border.
Can you imagine a Russian or Chinese Division sitting in Northern Mexico? We'd go apeshit.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 03, 2024 12:21 PM (QAkQ3)
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while our guys are studying the latest "Pronoun Identification and Pronunciation" guide
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A major video game [Dragon Age Veilguard] has a two-minute cutscene that lectures players about misgendering someone (and that's not all)
https://is.gd/n531t8
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A major video game [Dragon Age Veilguard] has a two-minute cutscene that lectures players about misgendering someone (and that's not all)
https://is.gd/n531t8
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:21 PM (L/fGl)
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34 Supposedly North Korean troops are now fighting with the Russians. If the Russians were on the verge of a win, why bring those troops over?
I tend to believe nothing I read or hear about this war. Every prediction by pundits/experts has been wrong. Plus it’s Russia and Ukraine we’re talking about here. The two most corrupt places in Europe. It’s all lies across the board from both sides.
Posted by: Hi Lo at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (MU5OA)
putin fears wide conscription, mainly because if he starts pulling people off the streets and from buses and drafting amputees like zelenskyy does, he loses his popularity and russia may delve into chaos being a huge multinational quagmire.
zelensky has no such fears because his regime is illegal anyway (has been way before him, since 2014 when a legal president was ousted in a violent obama coup), has no elections, and he rules by fear and western money and weapons alone.
I tend to believe nothing I read or hear about this war. Every prediction by pundits/experts has been wrong. Plus it’s Russia and Ukraine we’re talking about here. The two most corrupt places in Europe. It’s all lies across the board from both sides.
Posted by: Hi Lo at November 03, 2024 12:12 PM (MU5OA)
putin fears wide conscription, mainly because if he starts pulling people off the streets and from buses and drafting amputees like zelenskyy does, he loses his popularity and russia may delve into chaos being a huge multinational quagmire.
zelensky has no such fears because his regime is illegal anyway (has been way before him, since 2014 when a legal president was ousted in a violent obama coup), has no elections, and he rules by fear and western money and weapons alone.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:22 PM (CFNof)
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Ukraine has always been a setup to get Trump. Well maybe not always.
But any end to the war in Ukraine that doesn't have Putin in front of a war crimes tribunal in The Hague is going to be used as "Putins Puppet!" Fodder.
But any end to the war in Ukraine that doesn't have Putin in front of a war crimes tribunal in The Hague is going to be used as "Putins Puppet!" Fodder.
Posted by: blaster at November 03, 2024 12:22 PM (QfvaV)
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Forget the backing of Gov. Dep Staters for Kamala.. Harrison Ford is backing her !
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:22 PM (IyPmt)
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We may have survived the blitzkrieg of lies of the last 24 hours by the Dems, triggered by that Iowa poll.
While the left was all-out on claiming Trumps MSG rally and the comments about Cheney were massively offensive to women ...
What they weren't discussing was Cuban's "them women ain't smart" and Julia Roberts "lie to your husbands" ad are actually offensive.
While the left was all-out on claiming Trumps MSG rally and the comments about Cheney were massively offensive to women ...
What they weren't discussing was Cuban's "them women ain't smart" and Julia Roberts "lie to your husbands" ad are actually offensive.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:22 PM (xkwZj)
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I suspect the Chinese already had access to our technology.
I never gave them anything they didn't pay for!
I never gave them anything they didn't pay for!
Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 03, 2024 12:22 PM (guGkK)
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The single greatest flaw in Israel’s Gaza strategy is that Israel refuses to admit that they have to set up an occupation government in Gaza. If they don’t, then the instant they leave, UNWRA and Hamas set up shop again and they have to reinvade; this has happened twice in Jabaliyah already. It’s either set up an occupation, or fight war without end there, and that is a very bad policy./i]
I'm guessing they hope to find the equivalent of Fatah to run things - people that still want to murder Jews but are more concerned with making money and therefore bribeable.
I'm guessing they hope to find the equivalent of Fatah to run things - people that still want to murder Jews but are more concerned with making money and therefore bribeable.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (oZhjI)
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>>> 69 Putin has been relying on high military wages to recruit volunteers (as noted, draftees are not sent to Ukraine).
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I've wondered for a while why the American answer to "people don't want to join the military" is never...raise salaries.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (oZhjI)
It could help, but it's still only one of several factors in the decision. Just how much would you have to be paid to offset the risk of some they/them accusing you of harassing it, being court martialed and sent to a military brig for X years?
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I've wondered for a while why the American answer to "people don't want to join the military" is never...raise salaries.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (oZhjI)
It could help, but it's still only one of several factors in the decision. Just how much would you have to be paid to offset the risk of some they/them accusing you of harassing it, being court martialed and sent to a military brig for X years?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (0s6uJ)
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All this. Exactly right. Thank you.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (d9Cw3)
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You know who else believed he could defeat Russia even though Russia was 10 times his country's size?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (guGkK)
Napoleon?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (guGkK)
Napoleon?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (eSLO+)
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It was rather easy to tell the Ukrainian effort was going badly when all the stories about it dried up. No more breathless excitement about the Great Victory to Come.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (S6gqv)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (guGkK)
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> Oh, one weird thing about military tech - early on the Ukes were crowing about sinking some Russian ships. They used a missile that had been developed by...the Norks, and after the breakup of the Soviet Union.
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IIRC it was called "Neptune." Sort of like our Harpoon anti-ship missile. Probably based on the land based version of the "Styx" missile from the cold-war days.
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IIRC it was called "Neptune." Sort of like our Harpoon anti-ship missile. Probably based on the land based version of the "Styx" missile from the cold-war days.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)
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somebody should have told Harrison that no one is going to take his weed away from him if Trump is elected
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (V13WU)
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Nice write up CBD.
At the tactical level, we are (or used to be anyway) very good at " Thinking Red." What will the enemy division commander do next? Not sure we were ever very good at that at the strategic level.
Another thought as well. Western, and particularly American high tech weapons require high tech training and thinking. Our weapons have evolved along with our forces to fight the kind of wars we used to be good at. Not the kind of fighting we see in Ukraine. (or the last ten years in Afghanistan). As it is, they require "advisors" to let the Ukes use them.properly, and they are mostly wasted in this use by out dated tactics.
At the tactical level, we are (or used to be anyway) very good at " Thinking Red." What will the enemy division commander do next? Not sure we were ever very good at that at the strategic level.
Another thought as well. Western, and particularly American high tech weapons require high tech training and thinking. Our weapons have evolved along with our forces to fight the kind of wars we used to be good at. Not the kind of fighting we see in Ukraine. (or the last ten years in Afghanistan). As it is, they require "advisors" to let the Ukes use them.properly, and they are mostly wasted in this use by out dated tactics.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (W/lyH)
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The most recent ploy has been particularly pathetic, claiming Russia was using Nork troops because they were running out of their own.
It appears this was mainly to try to get South Korea to contribute F16s to the fight. SK would be really really stupid to fall for it, but for a moment there it looked like they were considering.
It appears this was mainly to try to get South Korea to contribute F16s to the fight. SK would be really really stupid to fall for it, but for a moment there it looked like they were considering.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (CinoL)
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I am not sure i understand the NK troops in UKR but. Its 3 thousand troops its not like they will make a difference in a multi hundred thousand soldier conflict.
I mean sometimes allies do things that are symbolic. Like South Korea sent a non-combat engineer battalion to Iraq. Wasn't a difference maker but they could say they helped.
I mean sometimes allies do things that are symbolic. Like South Korea sent a non-combat engineer battalion to Iraq. Wasn't a difference maker but they could say they helped.
Posted by: blaster at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (QfvaV)
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putin fears wide conscription, mainly because if he starts pulling people off the streets and from buses and drafting amputees like zelenskyy does, he loses his popularity
That is evident - a lot of people thought that Putin would do another "mobilization" after he got reelected in March.
Thus far, he has chosen not to do that.
That is evident - a lot of people thought that Putin would do another "mobilization" after he got reelected in March.
Thus far, he has chosen not to do that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:25 PM (uxCna)
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Our elites care about Ukraine because it is the sex trafficking capital of the world and their primary source of Caucasian "sex workers".
The longer the war goes the more unattached women and kids that will be available. Also more dead Christians on both the Russian and Uke side.
The longer the war goes the more unattached women and kids that will be available. Also more dead Christians on both the Russian and Uke side.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:25 PM (oZhjI)
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The Russian role in starting World War One can't be ignored, or their "protection" of Slavic peoples, the Balkans to the Dardanelles, Poland, the Baltics, or any route to precious Moscow.
Now they don't have the demographics to make that empire work, but aren't humble enough to realize it.
The Russian role in starting World War One can't be ignored, or their "protection" of Slavic peoples, the Balkans to the Dardanelles, Poland, the Baltics, or any route to precious Moscow.
Now they don't have the demographics to make that empire work, but aren't humble enough to realize it.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (+oDFe)
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The single greatest flaw in Israel’s Gaza strategy is that Israel refuses to admit that they have to set up an occupation government in Gaza toss every last Muslim enemy out of Gaza, declare Gaza sovereign Israeli territory and reestablish all the destroyed Israeli communities in and around Gaza.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (S6gqv)
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FIFY
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (S6gqv)
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FIFY
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (VFJAx)
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The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Krazy Kat Lady Karen who abused conservative black woman at a coffee shop is, SURPRISE!, long time fed employee.
https://is.gd/3uNnxd
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Krazy Kat Lady Karen who abused conservative black woman at a coffee shop is, SURPRISE!, long time fed employee.
https://is.gd/3uNnxd
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
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and mentioning obama, he was responsible for the middle east unrest which made the following changes:
muslim brotherhood coup against mubarak in egypt (if sisi didn't turn it back, MB would be still in charge and probably waging war with our top notch weapons against israel together with hamas).
syria unrest which led to assad inviting hizbollah and iran to basically half-rule syria and made iraq and syria.
iraq shiite militia infestation.
and that's just the tip.
muslim brotherhood coup against mubarak in egypt (if sisi didn't turn it back, MB would be still in charge and probably waging war with our top notch weapons against israel together with hamas).
syria unrest which led to assad inviting hizbollah and iran to basically half-rule syria and made iraq and syria.
iraq shiite militia infestation.
and that's just the tip.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (CFNof)
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32 What really worries me is that we are giving Russia real-world testing on how to beat our best equipment.
So while our guys are studying the latest "Pronoun Identification and Pronunciation" guide, they are out there killing people and breaking things.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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We have the benefit of seeing most of Russia's best missile tech and EW as well.
Probably a wash there except Russia is losing the ability to actually build out new weapons systems in the near future.
Both Ukraine and Russia, like Iran-Iraq before them, have impoverished themselves for at least a generation. But better than the US, we impoverished ourselves in Afghanistan and Iraq among other places with no territorial gains nor security from the results. Jerry Pournelle, nailed it when he called the US foreign policy as the incompetent empire.
For the most part, wars for territory are not worth it in the modern era and Russia has basically pissed off all its immediate neighbors forcing them to arm themselves and they are directly adjacent to Russia as well.
What it does however do is reinforce the idea that nations need nukes, etc. as a deterrence factor to being invaded.
So while our guys are studying the latest "Pronoun Identification and Pronunciation" guide, they are out there killing people and breaking things.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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We have the benefit of seeing most of Russia's best missile tech and EW as well.
Probably a wash there except Russia is losing the ability to actually build out new weapons systems in the near future.
Both Ukraine and Russia, like Iran-Iraq before them, have impoverished themselves for at least a generation. But better than the US, we impoverished ourselves in Afghanistan and Iraq among other places with no territorial gains nor security from the results. Jerry Pournelle, nailed it when he called the US foreign policy as the incompetent empire.
For the most part, wars for territory are not worth it in the modern era and Russia has basically pissed off all its immediate neighbors forcing them to arm themselves and they are directly adjacent to Russia as well.
What it does however do is reinforce the idea that nations need nukes, etc. as a deterrence factor to being invaded.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (ctrM5)
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You know who else believed he could defeat Russia even though Russia was 10 times his country's size?
Charles XII?
Charles XII?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:27 PM (oZhjI)
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I've wondered for a while why the American answer to "people don't want to join the military" is never...raise salaries.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (oZhjI).
Because we tend to handle that with bonuses rather than salary. A kid will more likely sign up for a $2000 check than he will for an extra buck an hour.
Yes it will cost money. Which you can get by taking it from other departments. Or I guess in the spirit of the current regime just print more.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:20 PM (oZhjI).
Because we tend to handle that with bonuses rather than salary. A kid will more likely sign up for a $2000 check than he will for an extra buck an hour.
Posted by: blaster at November 03, 2024 12:27 PM (QfvaV)
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UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (guGkK)
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The Regime will accept no other outcome.
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (guGkK)
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The Regime will accept no other outcome.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:28 PM (VFJAx)
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I'm guessing they hope to find the equivalent of Fatah to run things - people that still want to murder Jews but are more concerned with making money and therefore bribeable.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (oZhjI)
They tried that; the instant IDF forces pull out of an area, Hamas operatives viciously murder anyone who entertains such an idea. After WW2, the victorious allies didn’t just walk away from Germany, they put it under military lock and key for years. They were correct to do so; the establishment of a new society depended on it.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (oZhjI)
They tried that; the instant IDF forces pull out of an area, Hamas operatives viciously murder anyone who entertains such an idea. After WW2, the victorious allies didn’t just walk away from Germany, they put it under military lock and key for years. They were correct to do so; the establishment of a new society depended on it.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:28 PM (S6gqv)
Posted by: 496 at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (6iBef)
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The Russian role in starting World War One can't be ignored, or their "protection" of Slavic peoples, the Balkans to the Dardanelles, Poland, the Baltics, or any route to precious Moscow.
Now they don't have the demographics to make that empire work, but aren't humble enough to realize it.
Posted by: Auspex
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Pretty much true for the West as well. Abort your kids, abort your own future as a nation.
When you can't stand down the Houthis to run the Red Sea with commercial and military traffic, what exactly is the point of world policing.
The Russian role in starting World War One can't be ignored, or their "protection" of Slavic peoples, the Balkans to the Dardanelles, Poland, the Baltics, or any route to precious Moscow.
Now they don't have the demographics to make that empire work, but aren't humble enough to realize it.
Posted by: Auspex
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Pretty much true for the West as well. Abort your kids, abort your own future as a nation.
When you can't stand down the Houthis to run the Red Sea with commercial and military traffic, what exactly is the point of world policing.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
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It was rather easy to tell the Ukrainian effort was going badly when all the stories about it dried up. No more breathless excitement about the Great Victory to Come.
Remember all the stories about The Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive of 2023 - the one that ended up taking fourteen villages, with a total population of about 5,000 people?
Victoria Nuland boasted that she helped personally plan that.
Remember all the stories about The Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive of 2023 - the one that ended up taking fourteen villages, with a total population of about 5,000 people?
Victoria Nuland boasted that she helped personally plan that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (uxCna)
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106 Are there still pro Hamas riots on college campuses? I haven’t heard of any. Guess the kids got bored and moved on to the next thing to be outraged over.
Posted by: Hi Lo at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (MU5OA)
They're waiting till after the election to help Kamala get elected...
Posted by: Hi Lo at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (MU5OA)
They're waiting till after the election to help Kamala get elected...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (IyPmt)
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IIRC it was called "Neptune." Sort of like our Harpoon anti-ship missile. Probably based on the land based version of the "Styx" missile from the cold-war days.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)
There has been some discussion elsewhere that the real damage was done by early versions of sea-going drones, which both sides kept quiet about.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)
There has been some discussion elsewhere that the real damage was done by early versions of sea-going drones, which both sides kept quiet about.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (eSLO+)
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That is evident - a lot of people thought that Putin would do another "mobilization" after he got reelected in March.
Thus far, he has chosen not to do that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:25 PM (uxCna)
he's offering huge sums of cash to volunteers now, at least in 2nd world terms. that's the incentive. but it's not going to last very long. so that's probably the cause of NK troops (which we don't even know for a fact to be true, could be psyop). if ukr front doesn't completely collapse in next 6 months he will probably be forced to mobilize some more.
That is evident - a lot of people thought that Putin would do another "mobilization" after he got reelected in March.
Thus far, he has chosen not to do that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:25 PM (uxCna)
he's offering huge sums of cash to volunteers now, at least in 2nd world terms. that's the incentive. but it's not going to last very long. so that's probably the cause of NK troops (which we don't even know for a fact to be true, could be psyop). if ukr front doesn't completely collapse in next 6 months he will probably be forced to mobilize some more.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (CFNof)
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"How would America respond if Russia did the same thing in Mexico?"
In realty, it couldn't be much worse that who usually in charge down there. They are always anti-American and hostile.
In realty, it couldn't be much worse that who usually in charge down there. They are always anti-American and hostile.
Posted by: Ripley at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (PTDkx)
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Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Not disagreeing but I think that is Israel's current thought process.
TBH I don't think an occupation government is a good idea either. To solve the problem you need to move the Gazans somewhere else otherwise the next decade, even with an occupation government, will be "The Israelis are murdering innocent Palis just like the Germans in Poland!" while the Gazans kill Israeli soldiers on a regular basis.
Better to rip the bandaid off now...
Not disagreeing but I think that is Israel's current thought process.
TBH I don't think an occupation government is a good idea either. To solve the problem you need to move the Gazans somewhere else otherwise the next decade, even with an occupation government, will be "The Israelis are murdering innocent Palis just like the Germans in Poland!" while the Gazans kill Israeli soldiers on a regular basis.
Better to rip the bandaid off now...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (oZhjI)
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Krazy Kat Lady Karen who abused conservative black woman at a coffee shop is, SURPRISE!, long time fed employee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
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If only we had listened when they said there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
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If only we had listened when they said there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:31 PM (VFJAx)
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Putin has been relying on high military wages to recruit volunteers (as noted, draftees are not sent to Ukraine).
He's conducting a war of attrition, increasingly successfully.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (uxCna)
Yes, it should be noted too, he's had no shortage of takers. Volunteers are pouring in. If the West's "plan" was to cause Russia to recede as a power, it's had exactly the opposite effect.
He's conducting a war of attrition, increasingly successfully.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:18 PM (uxCna)
Yes, it should be noted too, he's had no shortage of takers. Volunteers are pouring in. If the West's "plan" was to cause Russia to recede as a power, it's had exactly the opposite effect.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:31 PM (9muBF)
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They (Biden's advisors) actually thought (crazy I know) that if they push Putin via Ukraine and he would be forced to send people to die, then place sanctions on Russia, Putin government would collapse. There would be a palace coup, and the West would get a version of Yeltsin installed. And that just shows you how out of touch, uninformed and stupid these people are.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
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Why does the West not understand that an expansion of NATO to the borders of Russia is a direct challenge to the Russian bear?
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Mirror image of the Missiles of October.
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Mirror image of the Missiles of October.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (L/fGl)
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It could help, but it's still only one of several factors in the decision. Just how much would you have to be paid to offset the risk of some they/them accusing you of harassing it, being court martialed and sent to a military brig for X years?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (0s6uJ)
Veteran Father's were the ones who raised the next generation of 'troops'.
But many Veterans, like myself, feel betrayed by our own government. We won all the battles (eventually), but then Politicians made every victory meaningless, as they would declare defeat.
41 years ago this day, I was still helping to clean up the site of the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing... and it is instructive that the Israelis, finally killed architect of that plan LAST MONTH. 'WE' did not get him... they did.
From Korea, to Viet Nam, to the supposed War on Terror... a lack of political will in DC, has squandered battlefield victories.... so... why would we want the next generation to squander their lives?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 03, 2024 12:23 PM (0s6uJ)
Veteran Father's were the ones who raised the next generation of 'troops'.
But many Veterans, like myself, feel betrayed by our own government. We won all the battles (eventually), but then Politicians made every victory meaningless, as they would declare defeat.
41 years ago this day, I was still helping to clean up the site of the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing... and it is instructive that the Israelis, finally killed architect of that plan LAST MONTH. 'WE' did not get him... they did.
From Korea, to Viet Nam, to the supposed War on Terror... a lack of political will in DC, has squandered battlefield victories.... so... why would we want the next generation to squander their lives?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (QAkQ3)
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ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (guGkK)
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I compared this list of senior officers to the list of over 300 supporting Trump. Guess which list had real war fighters on it? Guess which list had men and women who had actually won a war? Guess which list had officers not beholding to a major defense contractor for their cushy "Board" seat?
The Deep State is all in to protect its rice bowl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 03, 2024 12:19 PM (guGkK)
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I compared this list of senior officers to the list of over 300 supporting Trump. Guess which list had real war fighters on it? Guess which list had men and women who had actually won a war? Guess which list had officers not beholding to a major defense contractor for their cushy "Board" seat?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (W/lyH)
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When you can't stand down the Houthis to run the Red Sea with commercial and military traffic, what exactly is the point of world policing.
Of course we aren't really trying. Give Black Jack Pershing the resources the US has in the area and the ability to direct his own strategy and we'd have pacified the region in a year.
Of course we aren't really trying. Give Black Jack Pershing the resources the US has in the area and the ability to direct his own strategy and we'd have pacified the region in a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (oZhjI)
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FIFY
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (VFJAx)
It’s a cute thought, but where would they go? Nowhere they could go, and everyone has been forced to face it. So they are there to stay, and Israel has no choice but to figure out how to keep them under control. (Unless you want to entertain the only other obvious possibility)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:26 PM (VFJAx)
It’s a cute thought, but where would they go? Nowhere they could go, and everyone has been forced to face it. So they are there to stay, and Israel has no choice but to figure out how to keep them under control. (Unless you want to entertain the only other obvious possibility)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (S6gqv)
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I haven't been happy giving Ukraine up to date weapons for Russia to capture and get a good test piece
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (fwDg9)
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If Loadmaster has trouble selling the garbage truck used by Trump in Green Bay, and Trump wins, he should buy the truck and have "We're taking out the government trash" painted on the side.
It could start an East Coast tour, starting at the UN building. Federal buildings in New York City and Philadelphia. FBI, EPA, and CIA headquarters. Ukrainian embassy. Departments of State, Agriculture, Education, HHS, and a couple of others. Lizzie Warren's unconstitutional agency. Congressional office buildings.
I'm sure there are other good candidates.
It could start an East Coast tour, starting at the UN building. Federal buildings in New York City and Philadelphia. FBI, EPA, and CIA headquarters. Ukrainian embassy. Departments of State, Agriculture, Education, HHS, and a couple of others. Lizzie Warren's unconstitutional agency. Congressional office buildings.
I'm sure there are other good candidates.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (VNX3d)
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Miley recently gave a speech to international bankers (the ones standing to lose the most if Ukraine is unable to meet the repayment of debts for any reason) to say that we are now in a multi-polar world, though to soften the statement he still claims the US is the sole superpower.
This is of course the very declaration made by Putin and Aleksandr Dugin at the beginning of this purposeless war and then the very idea was the very deepest and nastiest sort of lie because it of course denied that USA was the master of the Unipolar world, and that moving NATO into Ukraine and breaking Russia was essential for this to keep that keeping on.
This is of course the very declaration made by Putin and Aleksandr Dugin at the beginning of this purposeless war and then the very idea was the very deepest and nastiest sort of lie because it of course denied that USA was the master of the Unipolar world, and that moving NATO into Ukraine and breaking Russia was essential for this to keep that keeping on.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (D7oie)
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Ukraine fights for the ongoing sweet, sweet grift.
Posted by: 496 at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (6iBef)
Everybody knows the kindness and generosity of Russians towards people they conquer.
Posted by: 496 at November 03, 2024 12:29 PM (6iBef)
Everybody knows the kindness and generosity of Russians towards people they conquer.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (j4U/Z)
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How would America respond if Russia did the same thing in Mexico?
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Shades of the Zimmermann telegram.
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Shades of the Zimmermann telegram.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (L/fGl)
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Both Ukraine and Russia, like Iran-Iraq before them, have impoverished themselves for at least a generation. But better than the US, we impoverished ourselves in Afghanistan and Iraq among other places with no territorial gains nor security from the results. Jerry Pournelle, nailed it when he called the US foreign policy as the incompetent empire.
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Which now makes me think WWIII is even more likely.
1) the banksters always, always love to fund wars, both sides if they can. Just like they did in WWII.
2) the real reason for US dominance after WWII was everyone else barely had a pot to piss in, and it had bullet holes in it.
So, drag everyone into a war.
Grind them all up.
Restore themselves to the top of the shit heap.
But hey, American woman! Trump said something mean about Liz Cheney and you need your abortions.
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Which now makes me think WWIII is even more likely.
1) the banksters always, always love to fund wars, both sides if they can. Just like they did in WWII.
2) the real reason for US dominance after WWII was everyone else barely had a pot to piss in, and it had bullet holes in it.
So, drag everyone into a war.
Grind them all up.
Restore themselves to the top of the shit heap.
But hey, American woman! Trump said something mean about Liz Cheney and you need your abortions.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (xkwZj)
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I’m not gonna claim Putin is a good guy but I will say this: For the sake of the rest of the world and the US in particular, Russia needs to win this war. Grifters like Zelensky along with our MIC cannot be allowed to get away with warmongering
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (6RwsA)
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Last I heard (and that came from Zelensky) the ratio of Russian-Uke soldiers at the front is 8:1.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:34 PM (V13WU)
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Rootin' for Putin since Day 1. There's a distinct pattern in modern wars. Side A claims there are ethnic Side As residing in Side B, who being abused. Side A attacks Side B.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 03, 2024 12:34 PM (wBaIH)
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Not sure how much worse Russian troops in Mexico would be compared to Cartels we have now. Could even be an improvement.
Out: In another grim milestone the third mayor of [Town Name X] was found beheaded this year.
In: In another grim milestone the Russian occupation forces of Juarez have consumed all the Tequila produced in the province for the third year in a town.
Out: In another grim milestone the third mayor of [Town Name X] was found beheaded this year.
In: In another grim milestone the Russian occupation forces of Juarez have consumed all the Tequila produced in the province for the third year in a town.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:34 PM (oZhjI)
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Yes, it should be noted too, he's had no shortage of takers. Volunteers are pouring in.
The military salaries are extremely high from the standpoint of someone living in rural Russia or a non-Russian area of Russia.
The military salaries are extremely high from the standpoint of someone living in rural Russia or a non-Russian area of Russia.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:35 PM (uxCna)
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They tried that; the instant IDF forces pull out of an area, Hamas operatives viciously murder anyone who entertains such an idea. After WW2, the victorious allies didn’t just walk away from Germany, they put it under military lock and key for years. They were correct to do so; the establishment of a new society depended on it.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:28 PM (S6gqv)
IDF itself is occupied by woke retards who believe occupation is evil and arafat was a swell guy. they handle the war as poorly as can one possible conceive. 90% of gazans would be thankful if anyone offered them a 1000$ and a free ticket to ireland or some other pali loving shithole, but the israelis want them all to stay for some morally unsound reason.
They tried that; the instant IDF forces pull out of an area, Hamas operatives viciously murder anyone who entertains such an idea. After WW2, the victorious allies didn’t just walk away from Germany, they put it under military lock and key for years. They were correct to do so; the establishment of a new society depended on it.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:28 PM (S6gqv)
IDF itself is occupied by woke retards who believe occupation is evil and arafat was a swell guy. they handle the war as poorly as can one possible conceive. 90% of gazans would be thankful if anyone offered them a 1000$ and a free ticket to ireland or some other pali loving shithole, but the israelis want them all to stay for some morally unsound reason.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:35 PM (CFNof)
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They tried that; the instant IDF forces pull out of an area, Hamas operatives viciously murder anyone who entertains such an idea. After WW2, the victorious allies didn’t just walk away from Germany, they put it under military lock and key for years. They were correct to do so; the establishment of a new society depended on it.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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True or expel them which creates problems with the neighbors. No Arab governments wants Palestinians in their country. And I sure in the hell do not want them sent here as Biden floated some trial balloons about.
Anything less guarantees endless repitition.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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True or expel them which creates problems with the neighbors. No Arab governments wants Palestinians in their country. And I sure in the hell do not want them sent here as Biden floated some trial balloons about.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (ctrM5)
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Lil Z was elected on a platform of ending the dirty war in the east. He didn't whether because he couldn't, he didn't want to, or he was made an offer doesn't really matter.
From a humanitarian perspective the best outcome is separation of those provinces from the rest of Ukraine and...almost certainly what will happen absent Kamala starting WWIII
From a humanitarian perspective the best outcome is separation of those provinces from the rest of Ukraine and...almost certainly what will happen absent Kamala starting WWIII
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (oZhjI)
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Who's winning this war? I notice Nuland and Vindman don't look like they're missing any meals, so they would appear to be winning.
Posted by: Wally at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (7h5xt)
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Well, the US has tolerated Cuba being a Soviet/Russian proxy for over half a century, so there is that.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (a/7LW)
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Better to rip the bandaid off now...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (oZhjI)
As I just posted above, you can’t move them anywhere, not a single country in the world would accept that violent useless pack of miscreants. Egypt has at least 2 divisions of M1A1 tanks parked on the Gaza border to make sure they don’t try to get into Sinai.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:30 PM (oZhjI)
As I just posted above, you can’t move them anywhere, not a single country in the world would accept that violent useless pack of miscreants. Egypt has at least 2 divisions of M1A1 tanks parked on the Gaza border to make sure they don’t try to get into Sinai.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (S6gqv)
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I don't know who is winning, but I know that Ukraine lost 1/3 of its territory.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (V13WU)
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127 I’m not gonna claim Putin is a good guy but I will say this: For the sake of the rest of the world and the US in particular, Russia needs to win this war. Grifters like Zelensky along with our MIC cannot be allowed to get away with warmongering
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Eh, China and Russia are just as warmongering but they are usually more competent.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Eh, China and Russia are just as warmongering but they are usually more competent.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (ctrM5)
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They (Biden's advisors) actually thought (crazy I know) that if they push Putin via Ukraine and he would be forced to send people to die, then place sanctions on Russia, Putin government would collapse.
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)
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I am not sure i understand the NK troops in UKR but. Its 3 thousand troops its not like they will make a difference in a multi hundred thousand soldier conflict.
I mean sometimes allies do things that are symbolic. Like South Korea sent a non-combat engineer battalion to Iraq. Wasn't a difference maker but they could say they helped.
Posted by: blaster at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (QfvaV)
Pootin did acknowledge they're there, but I think what it is would be comparable to Americans having allies in and around our bases, doing joint training.
I don't think there's any evidence the Norks have been in combat zones, and I believe it's been a common practice for Norks to come to Russia for these types of exercises, for years.
So our lying politicians claiming this is something new, or significant in some way or another, is just our politicians lying. Which you know they're doing when their gums are flapping.
I mean sometimes allies do things that are symbolic. Like South Korea sent a non-combat engineer battalion to Iraq. Wasn't a difference maker but they could say they helped.
Posted by: blaster at November 03, 2024 12:24 PM (QfvaV)
Pootin did acknowledge they're there, but I think what it is would be comparable to Americans having allies in and around our bases, doing joint training.
I don't think there's any evidence the Norks have been in combat zones, and I believe it's been a common practice for Norks to come to Russia for these types of exercises, for years.
So our lying politicians claiming this is something new, or significant in some way or another, is just our politicians lying. Which you know they're doing when their gums are flapping.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (pdGBc)
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Who's winning this war? I notice Nuland and Vindman don't look like they're missing any meals, so they would appear to be winning.
Completely losing: Uke people
Mostly losing: Russian people
Doing ok: Vlad, Lil Z
Winning: American/European pols getting kick backs from all the Uke "aid"
Completely losing: Uke people
Mostly losing: Russian people
Doing ok: Vlad, Lil Z
Winning: American/European pols getting kick backs from all the Uke "aid"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (oZhjI)
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Give Black Jack Pershing the resources the US has in the area and the ability to direct his own strategy and we'd have pacified the region in a year.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (oZhjI)
American Foreign Legion, with Eric Prince in charge.
The French model of declining empire military engagement.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (oZhjI)
American Foreign Legion, with Eric Prince in charge.
The French model of declining empire military engagement.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:38 PM (j4U/Z)
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As I just posted above, you can’t move them anywhere, not a single country in the world would accept that violent useless pack of miscreants. Egypt has at least 2 divisions of M1A1 tanks parked on the Gaza border to make sure they don’t try to get into Sinai.
I've suggested Socotra.
Though you could also just drop them in Somalia.
I've suggested Socotra.
Though you could also just drop them in Somalia.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:38 PM (oZhjI)
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'i wonder how the dems rationalize their made-up fearmongering of DRUMPF cancelling elections, while supporting Ukraine which actually did cancel all elections and became a closed borders iron curtain dictatorship.'
We rely heavily on our idiot voters' blind support. This has stayed surprisingly solid in spite of ever more ridiculous lies. Sometimes we lie just for fun.
Men are women? Holy shit, that's funny!
'i wonder how the dems rationalize their made-up fearmongering of DRUMPF cancelling elections, while supporting Ukraine which actually did cancel all elections and became a closed borders iron curtain dictatorship.'
We rely heavily on our idiot voters' blind support. This has stayed surprisingly solid in spite of ever more ridiculous lies. Sometimes we lie just for fun.
Men are women? Holy shit, that's funny!
Posted by: Democrats at November 03, 2024 12:39 PM (3wi/L)
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There would be a palace coup, and the West would get a version of Yeltsin installed.
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What if Putin is the most moderate of potential Russian leaders?
But yeah, you can see our elites haven't thought that far ahead.
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What if Putin is the most moderate of potential Russian leaders?
But yeah, you can see our elites haven't thought that far ahead.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:39 PM (xkwZj)
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
Posted by: The Deep State, 1932! at November 03, 2024 12:39 PM (uxCna)
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'i wonder how the dems rationalize their made-up fearmongering of DRUMPF cancelling elections, while supporting Ukraine which actually did cancel all elections and became a closed borders iron curtain dictatorship.'
HIV leftists would be fine cancelling elections and rounding up anyone that disagrees with them.
LIVs only hear what the FNM tells them so as far as they know Lil Z is the most popular person in Ukraine and has won a bunch of elections since the start of the war.
And to extend this during the Vietnam war it was a big thing the FNM talked about endlessly that South Vietnam was run by a dictator (after JFK let him kill their elected president)
HIV leftists would be fine cancelling elections and rounding up anyone that disagrees with them.
LIVs only hear what the FNM tells them so as far as they know Lil Z is the most popular person in Ukraine and has won a bunch of elections since the start of the war.
And to extend this during the Vietnam war it was a big thing the FNM talked about endlessly that South Vietnam was run by a dictator (after JFK let him kill their elected president)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (oZhjI)
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Yes, it should be noted too, he's had no shortage of takers. Volunteers are pouring in.
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The military salaries are extremely high from the standpoint of someone living in rural Russia or a non-Russian area of Russia.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:35 PM (uxCna)
Frankly, so is the American military experience.
I don't know the numbers, but I think a large number of recruits are from rural areas in this country, where the options are take a job at Walmart, or go on welfare, or join the military.
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The military salaries are extremely high from the standpoint of someone living in rural Russia or a non-Russian area of Russia.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:35 PM (uxCna)
Frankly, so is the American military experience.
I don't know the numbers, but I think a large number of recruits are from rural areas in this country, where the options are take a job at Walmart, or go on welfare, or join the military.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (pdGBc)
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136 Well, the US has tolerated Cuba being a Soviet/Russian proxy for over half a century, so there is that.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (a/7LW)
We managed to end them as a threat without bombing anything.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (a/7LW)
We managed to end them as a threat without bombing anything.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (j4U/Z)
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True or expel them which creates problems with the neighbors. No Arab governments wants Palestinians in their country. And I sure in the hell do not want them sent here as Biden floated some trial balloons about.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (ctrM5)
Send all the Palis to Somalia. Over the past few years, there have been more illegals enter the USA than there are Palis, so the move is certainly doable. And it would raise the median IQ of both Gaza and Somalia.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:36 PM (ctrM5)
Send all the Palis to Somalia. Over the past few years, there have been more illegals enter the USA than there are Palis, so the move is certainly doable. And it would raise the median IQ of both Gaza and Somalia.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (+8Ln3)
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So we ever find out what the second Trump assassin was doing in Ukraine? Because everyone else involved with foreign recruiting says he was lying about doing that
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (oZhjI)
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Everybody knows the kindness and generosity of Russians towards people they conquer.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (j4U/Z)
russia didn't want to conquer anyone when ukraine was neutral, and even when it was anti russian. the obama-nuland violent coup was what triggered putin, and it is completely understandable. they had actual nazis roaming the streets of donbass, pro russian people were tortured, burned alive (some on live TV like in odessa) and killed by thousands in ukr secret service dungeons.
frankly i can't stand putin, but imho he was actually more patient than i would've been in his place.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (j4U/Z)
russia didn't want to conquer anyone when ukraine was neutral, and even when it was anti russian. the obama-nuland violent coup was what triggered putin, and it is completely understandable. they had actual nazis roaming the streets of donbass, pro russian people were tortured, burned alive (some on live TV like in odessa) and killed by thousands in ukr secret service dungeons.
frankly i can't stand putin, but imho he was actually more patient than i would've been in his place.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 12:42 PM (CFNof)
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I would imagine Putin would be in a position to potentially pick his successor.
Sort of like what our government is trying to do....
Sort of like what our government is trying to do....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 12:42 PM (Q4IgG)
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The single greatest flaw in Israel’s Gaza strategy
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Israel has no good options, only less bad options.
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Israel has no good options, only less bad options.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:42 PM (L/fGl)
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There would be a palace coup, and the West would get a version of Yeltsin installed.
Another Western blind spot - Yeltsin presided over the collapse of Russian living standards and life expectancies.
But because we liked him, we assume that installing a second Yeltsin would be acceptable to the Russian people.
Putin's whole legitimacy comes from the fact that he brought the Yeltsin era to a close.
Another Western blind spot - Yeltsin presided over the collapse of Russian living standards and life expectancies.
But because we liked him, we assume that installing a second Yeltsin would be acceptable to the Russian people.
Putin's whole legitimacy comes from the fact that he brought the Yeltsin era to a close.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:42 PM (uxCna)
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Heh...
Fox Detroit just had a Trump ad showing Kamala wants transgender athletes in girls sports. Great picture.
In a sane country and time, this wouldn't even be happening.
The penduluum ride back is going to be wild.
Fox Detroit just had a Trump ad showing Kamala wants transgender athletes in girls sports. Great picture.
In a sane country and time, this wouldn't even be happening.
The penduluum ride back is going to be wild.
Posted by: Stateless at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (jvJvP)
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Of course, Russia was going to win. But the best part is that we transferred most of our weaponry to Russia; we knew they could reverse-engineer the rest the same way Barack Obama sent our most advanced drone to Iran hoping they would reverse-engineer it. Why should the United States have the best weapons?
Posted by: wferrin at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (U/c7k)
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He ain't no friend, friend:
@RichSementa 20m
Sen John Fetterman Calls Trump An Asshole For Defending Women's Sports
@RichSementa 20m
Sen John Fetterman Calls Trump An Asshole For Defending Women's Sports
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (IG4Id)
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Completely losing: Uke people
Mostly losing: Russian people
Doing ok: Vlad, Lil Z
Winning: American/European pols getting kick backs from all the Uke "aid"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (oZhjI)
I wouldn't say the Russian people are losing. Their economy is booming, they're generally free, and mostly love their country and its leader.
Mostly losing: Russian people
Doing ok: Vlad, Lil Z
Winning: American/European pols getting kick backs from all the Uke "aid"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:37 PM (oZhjI)
I wouldn't say the Russian people are losing. Their economy is booming, they're generally free, and mostly love their country and its leader.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (pdGBc)
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Putin is not on the side of global homo-pedo while apparently Zelensky is… that all by itself is enough for me to hope Russia wins this war. By win I mean successfully claim the territories they wanted at the outset leaving the rest to Ukraine
The USSR is gone forever… today’s Russia is not the USSR
The USSR is gone forever… today’s Russia is not the USSR
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (6RwsA)
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It’s a cute thought, but where would they go?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (S6gqv)
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1. Egypt. Blow the border up.
2. Europe. Pay smugglers handsomely.
3. The sea.
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 12:32 PM (S6gqv)
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1. Egypt. Blow the border up.
2. Europe. Pay smugglers handsomely.
3. The sea.
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (VFJAx)
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So we ever find out what the second Trump assassin was doing in Ukraine? Because everyone else involved with foreign recruiting says he was lying about doing that
CIA asset.
CIA asset.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)
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138 I don't know who is winning, but I know that Ukraine lost 1/3 of its territory.
Posted by: runner
And Germany took Alsace and Lorraine too for a time. Territory is not wealth per se. It depends on the resources including the people to exploit and a lot of those people have fled or are dead/wounded/etc along with most infrastructure there being destroyed.
Everyone that luvvs them some war should be required to read Bastiat's Broken Window thesis.
Destroying shit to win it is not a recipe for happiness and wealth. Same goes for ridiculous claims I have seen that Russia is doing okay when inflation and interest rates are spiking to levels back to the 90's. Oil is down to about $70 bucks per barrel and the West/China are heading into recessions.
Ditto for Ukraine when it should have made peace earlier. Killing a bunch of its own population and impoverishing themselves for a generation is not likely to produce peace in the future.
Like Iran-Iraq--no one including Putin and Zelensky look good here and I root for both to fail miserably and be deposed from power. Nasty critters.
Posted by: runner
And Germany took Alsace and Lorraine too for a time. Territory is not wealth per se. It depends on the resources including the people to exploit and a lot of those people have fled or are dead/wounded/etc along with most infrastructure there being destroyed.
Everyone that luvvs them some war should be required to read Bastiat's Broken Window thesis.
Destroying shit to win it is not a recipe for happiness and wealth. Same goes for ridiculous claims I have seen that Russia is doing okay when inflation and interest rates are spiking to levels back to the 90's. Oil is down to about $70 bucks per barrel and the West/China are heading into recessions.
Ditto for Ukraine when it should have made peace earlier. Killing a bunch of its own population and impoverishing themselves for a generation is not likely to produce peace in the future.
Like Iran-Iraq--no one including Putin and Zelensky look good here and I root for both to fail miserably and be deposed from power. Nasty critters.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (ctrM5)
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
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48 'Muslims are voting for Trump, one of the most pro Israel presidents ever, because Kamala doesn’t hate Jews enough.'
If they ARE voting for Trump, that isn't the reason.
If they ARE voting for Trump, that isn't the reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (3wi/L)
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frankly i can't stand putin, but imho he was actually more patient than i would've been in his place.
Posted by: juicer
Putin is really pretty reasonable considering he's an evil asshole.
Posted by: juicer
Putin is really pretty reasonable considering he's an evil asshole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (L/fGl)
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Zelensky is hoping for a Harris victory.. She'll keep funneling the money in and Trump will shut it down
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (IyPmt)
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ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
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How nice! A prepared list of 1,043 security clearances that can be revoked on Day 1.
ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
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How nice! A prepared list of 1,043 security clearances that can be revoked on Day 1.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (EsZUh)
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Ukraine made a deal with biden and the deep state.
Let them reap The rewards. I hope Trump wins. And I hope, among the first things he does, he stops all aid to them and demands a spreadsheet detailing how American tax dollars were spent.
Any money unaccounted for or used in a manner not directly supporting the war effort or the people gets billed back. Plus interest.
Let them reap The rewards. I hope Trump wins. And I hope, among the first things he does, he stops all aid to them and demands a spreadsheet detailing how American tax dollars were spent.
Any money unaccounted for or used in a manner not directly supporting the war effort or the people gets billed back. Plus interest.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (pP7rZ)
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ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
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How nice! A prepared list of 1,043 security clearances that can be revoked on Day 1.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (EsZUh)
xactly !
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How nice! A prepared list of 1,043 security clearances that can be revoked on Day 1.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (EsZUh)
xactly !
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (V13WU)
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160 48 'Muslims are voting for Trump, one of the most pro Israel presidents ever, because Kamala doesn’t hate Jews enough.'
If they ARE voting for Trump, that isn't the reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (3wi/L)
I think it's because of the abortion and Transgender stuff
If they ARE voting for Trump, that isn't the reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (3wi/L)
I think it's because of the abortion and Transgender stuff
Posted by: It's me donna at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (IyPmt)
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Off this topic.
I'm not going to be around too much between now and Tuesday.
If people are dooming because of the polls, especially that Iowa poll, please take a breath and think clearly.
We have concrete evidence based on actual ballot returns that 17 million Democrats that voted early in 2020, have not voted in 2024, so far. This compares to a drop of 2 million Republicans.
We also have concrete evidence of expanded voter registrations for Republicans nationwide. In Iowa, for example, the Republicans have increased their registration share in all 99 counties.
For these last-minute polls, that are intended to depress Republican turnout, to be accurate. It requires a significant number of republicans and independents to vote for Kamala.
How likely is it that GOP and Ind are dying to vote for Kamala in significant numbers, when Democrats themselves are not voting?
The Democrat firewall in Nevada is now -45,000.
The Democrat firewall in Pennsylvania is 800,000 less than in 2020.
As long as Republicans vote on Tuesday, they will win.
Go vote, and if someone tries to get you to leave because the line is too long, or the machines are not working, stay in line.
I'm not going to be around too much between now and Tuesday.
If people are dooming because of the polls, especially that Iowa poll, please take a breath and think clearly.
We have concrete evidence based on actual ballot returns that 17 million Democrats that voted early in 2020, have not voted in 2024, so far. This compares to a drop of 2 million Republicans.
We also have concrete evidence of expanded voter registrations for Republicans nationwide. In Iowa, for example, the Republicans have increased their registration share in all 99 counties.
For these last-minute polls, that are intended to depress Republican turnout, to be accurate. It requires a significant number of republicans and independents to vote for Kamala.
How likely is it that GOP and Ind are dying to vote for Kamala in significant numbers, when Democrats themselves are not voting?
The Democrat firewall in Nevada is now -45,000.
The Democrat firewall in Pennsylvania is 800,000 less than in 2020.
As long as Republicans vote on Tuesday, they will win.
Go vote, and if someone tries to get you to leave because the line is too long, or the machines are not working, stay in line.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:47 PM (5p7BC)
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
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We must arm this Saddam fellow to counter the radicals in Iran!
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
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We must arm this Saddam fellow to counter the radicals in Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:47 PM (xkwZj)
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Destroying shit to win it is not a recipe for happiness and wealth.
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I hope the Donks remember this on 11/6.
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I hope the Donks remember this on 11/6.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:47 PM (L/fGl)
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
Damned straight. Artie was a real bastard
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
Damned straight. Artie was a real bastard
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (D7oie)
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So we ever find out what the second Trump assassin was doing in Ukraine? Because everyone else involved with foreign recruiting says he was lying about doing that
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CIA asset.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)
And patsy #1, little boy Crooks, had his whole online history scrubbed, like he was a government man.
Weird.
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CIA asset.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:44 PM (uxCna)
And patsy #1, little boy Crooks, had his whole online history scrubbed, like he was a government man.
Weird.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (pdGBc)
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I wouldn't say the Russian people are losing. Their economy is booming, they're generally free, and mostly love their country and its leader.
Posted by: BurtTC
You might want to take another look at that both inflation and government debt is back with a vengeance and likely to worsen as the price of oil which is financing all this shit is down to about $70 bucks a barrel. Russia needed about $90 bucks per barrel prior to the war to finance its govt. With war spending, that escalates.
This week from CNBC
"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: BurtTC
You might want to take another look at that both inflation and government debt is back with a vengeance and likely to worsen as the price of oil which is financing all this shit is down to about $70 bucks a barrel. Russia needed about $90 bucks per barrel prior to the war to finance its govt. With war spending, that escalates.
This week from CNBC
"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Buona mattina. Invece dei pantaloni potrebbe mettere su un vestito o anche una gonna e blusa. Molto più feminino, nò?
Posted by: Ciampino - Sunday Italian lesson 1 at November 03, 2024 09:37 AM (i0xsb)
Ma insegnante, pantaloni sono necessari per uomini e donne. Ma penso che skorts sono OK.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, unofficial Book Thread Pants Monitor at November 03, 2024 09:41 AM (PiwSw)
People need to go to prison for this.
Posted by: Ciampino - Sunday Italian lesson 1 at November 03, 2024 09:37 AM (i0xsb)
Ma insegnante, pantaloni sono necessari per uomini e donne. Ma penso che skorts sono OK.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, unofficial Book Thread Pants Monitor at November 03, 2024 09:41 AM (PiwSw)
People need to go to prison for this.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, diseased garbage human at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (dR6yv)
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
Damned straight. Artie was a real bastard
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (D7oie)
Robert might have been stricter.
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
Damned straight. Artie was a real bastard
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (D7oie)
Robert might have been stricter.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (VNX3d)
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Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
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I thought he was pretty good in "Jaws."
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (xkwZj)
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I thought he was pretty good in "Jaws."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (U1w17)
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Hell, I know all the media, all the bureaucracy, all the Foreign Service, all the arts and entertainment industries, all academia and all foreign governments are for Kammie. Think this endorsement is a big deal?
Hell, I know all the media, all the bureaucracy, all the Foreign Service, all the arts and entertainment industries, all academia and all foreign governments are for Kammie. Think this endorsement is a big deal?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (EsZUh)
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frankly i can't stand putin, but imho he was actually more patient than i would've been in his place.
Posted by: juicer
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Putin is really pretty reasonable considering he's an evil asshole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (L/fGl)
Yeah, every politician is an evil asshole. Sometimes their people love them anyway, which the Russian people do with theirs.
Posted by: juicer
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Putin is really pretty reasonable considering he's an evil asshole.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:45 PM (L/fGl)
Yeah, every politician is an evil asshole. Sometimes their people love them anyway, which the Russian people do with theirs.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (pdGBc)
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I hope the Donks remember this on 11/6.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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For people lusting after power, they would proudly rule over a mountain of shit just to be king of the hill.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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For people lusting after power, they would proudly rule over a mountain of shit just to be king of the hill.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (ctrM5)
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I think it's because of the abortion and Transgender stuff
Posted by: It's me donna
I predicted here on these very pages that if the muslims every voiced their choice on the basis of abortion, the GOP would get whatever vote they had.
Posted by: It's me donna
I predicted here on these very pages that if the muslims every voiced their choice on the basis of abortion, the GOP would get whatever vote they had.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (IG4Id)
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The west isn't sending 'stockpiles of advanced weaponry'. It's sending the obsolete crap that it can't send anywhere else and charging the government a premium.
Remember the cluster bomb nonsense? That gave the game away. This is something that is NOT used by the US military, is not used by any other modern military, and was long obsolete and expired, but was stockpiled because it was expensive to safely dispose of.
The military contractors used Ukraine as an excuse to empty their stockpile of obsolete and useless arms while charging the government a massive premium for stuff that they couldn't sell anywhere else, and then charged them a bigger premium to 'replenish' their stockpile with actual modern weapons.
Ask anybody that's dealt with military contractors, they do this crap all the time.
Remember the cluster bomb nonsense? That gave the game away. This is something that is NOT used by the US military, is not used by any other modern military, and was long obsolete and expired, but was stockpiled because it was expensive to safely dispose of.
The military contractors used Ukraine as an excuse to empty their stockpile of obsolete and useless arms while charging the government a massive premium for stuff that they couldn't sell anywhere else, and then charged them a bigger premium to 'replenish' their stockpile with actual modern weapons.
Ask anybody that's dealt with military contractors, they do this crap all the time.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (setIA)
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I rate Trump’s claim that he’ll end the Ukraine war as President Elect as probably true. It’ll take the fact of his election plus a single phone call to Zelensky where he says: you better get to the negotiating table and make a deal fast because I’m shutting down all your funds…. A deal will be made fast
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (6RwsA)
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The Democrat firewall in Nevada is now -45,000.
The Democrat firewall in Pennsylvania is 800,000 less than in 2020.
As long as Republicans vote on Tuesday, they will win.
Go vote, and if someone tries to get you to leave because the line is too long, or the machines are not working, stay in line.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:47 PM (5p7BC)
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Been waiting for your update, thanks.
The Democrat firewall in Pennsylvania is 800,000 less than in 2020.
As long as Republicans vote on Tuesday, they will win.
Go vote, and if someone tries to get you to leave because the line is too long, or the machines are not working, stay in line.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:47 PM (5p7BC)
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Been waiting for your update, thanks.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (xkwZj)
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If people are dooming because of the polls, especially that Iowa poll, please take a breath and think clearly.
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That poll doesn't add up.
https://is.gd/NJJpiC
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That poll doesn't add up.
https://is.gd/NJJpiC
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)
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You might want to take another look at that both inflation and government debt is back with a vengeance and likely to worsen as the price of oil which is financing all this shit is down to about $70 bucks a barrel. Russia needed about $90 bucks per barrel prior to the war to finance its govt. With war spending, that escalates.
This week from CNBC
"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
CNBC? Seriously?
You need new sources.
This week from CNBC
"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
CNBC? Seriously?
You need new sources.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:50 PM (pdGBc)
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We managed to end them as a threat without bombing anything.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (j4U/Z)
Well yeah. We flooded them with American made cars. No economy can survive that. Strategic brilliance, I'd say.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:41 PM (j4U/Z)
Well yeah. We flooded them with American made cars. No economy can survive that. Strategic brilliance, I'd say.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 12:50 PM (DDGz9)
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Whoops. Wrong copy and paste.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, diseased garbage human at November 03, 2024 12:50 PM (dR6yv)
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And patsy #1, little boy Crooks, had his whole online history scrubbed, like he was a government man.
After the scrubbing the FNM was prepared to claim Crooks was a right wing Republican.
Except the Gab guys found Crooks's postings and he was a run of the mill leftist...
After the scrubbing the FNM was prepared to claim Crooks was a right wing Republican.
Except the Gab guys found Crooks's postings and he was a run of the mill leftist...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 12:51 PM (oZhjI)
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If people are dooming because of the polls, especially that Iowa poll, please take a breath and think clearly.
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Look for a different type of pole. Stripper, maybe?
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Look for a different type of pole. Stripper, maybe?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 03, 2024 12:51 PM (VNX3d)
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And I'd also like to point out that AT THE VERY START of this nonsense, I said that this was stupid, Ukraine couldn't possibly win, that they were just going to use this as an excuse to fire house unaccountable money, and I was called 'Putin lover', 'Russia sympathizer' blah blah blah.
For pointing out that the only way to actually WIN was for NATO to send troops, but nobody wanted to talk about that, they wanted to just post stupid slogans while Ukraine lost slowly and the government graft continued.
For pointing out that the only way to actually WIN was for NATO to send troops, but nobody wanted to talk about that, they wanted to just post stupid slogans while Ukraine lost slowly and the government graft continued.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 03, 2024 12:51 PM (setIA)
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"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Sounds like they're pretty much pulling even with us, in that case.
"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Sounds like they're pretty much pulling even with us, in that case.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 03, 2024 12:51 PM (QdGJh)
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Ukraine made a deal with biden and the deep state.
Let them reap The rewards. I hope Trump wins. And I hope, among the first things he does, he stops all aid to them and demands a spreadsheet detailing how American tax dollars were spent.
Any money unaccounted for or used in a manner not directly supporting the war effort or the people gets billed back. Plus interest.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (pP7rZ)
The Bank of England is on the hook for massive amounts of money that Ukraine has already defaulted on, and at this point the Parliament is on the hook for making it good. Ukraine war is now at the bad money after good to try to turn it around. All the investors have mortgaged their houses to make payroll and rent for another quarter hoping it wll turn out oK
I am not sure what happens when the UK goes into sovereign debt default, but I expect it is going to be ugly.
Let them reap The rewards. I hope Trump wins. And I hope, among the first things he does, he stops all aid to them and demands a spreadsheet detailing how American tax dollars were spent.
Any money unaccounted for or used in a manner not directly supporting the war effort or the people gets billed back. Plus interest.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 03, 2024 12:46 PM (pP7rZ)
The Bank of England is on the hook for massive amounts of money that Ukraine has already defaulted on, and at this point the Parliament is on the hook for making it good. Ukraine war is now at the bad money after good to try to turn it around. All the investors have mortgaged their houses to make payroll and rent for another quarter hoping it wll turn out oK
I am not sure what happens when the UK goes into sovereign debt default, but I expect it is going to be ugly.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:51 PM (D7oie)
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"Russia's central bank on Friday raised its key interest rate by 200 basis points to 21%, citing consumer price increases considerably above its forecast and warning of ongoing high inflation risks in the medium term." Ruble is dropping too.
Still doing better than the German economy.
Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Still doing better than the German economy.
Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (uxCna)
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The Democrat firewall in Pennsylvania is 800,000 less than in 2020.
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that is a lot of ballots !
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that is a lot of ballots !
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (V13WU)
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Defiant L’s
@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (NpAcC)
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Nov 2
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
Posted by: redridinghood
Looks like a perfect starter list for Trump to purge the traitors out of our miliary.
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.
Posted by: redridinghood
Looks like a perfect starter list for Trump to purge the traitors out of our miliary.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (MsrgL)
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I agree w/CBD that the situation for Ukraine could be getting serious - except for the fact that the war with Russia has been serious for the Ukrainians from the jump. CBD looks at some pins on the map, notes Ukraine's status with its manpower, then jumps to conclude - Russia will prevail. If this were so - Russia WOULD HAVE ALREADY PREVAILED - and Zelensky's government would be gone.
CBD needs to get out the Windex and clean up his crystal ball. He's not seeing the reality of the war.
CBD needs to get out the Windex and clean up his crystal ball. He's not seeing the reality of the war.
Posted by: Major Rage at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (Ba0XO)
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168 Show of hands. Who thinks Putin's replacement will be better than Putin?
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
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We must arm this Saddam fellow to counter the radicals in Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories
I am expressing personal wishes, not state policy.
State policy should be Westphalian to deal with existing rulers as such but individuals should never be constrained not to call a tyrant what they are.
Too many people are enamored of Putin on the basis of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same with the Brics group.
We did that with Stalin and how exactly did that work out.
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Who could be worse than that warmonger Hindenburg?
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The Shaw is abusing the people of Iran!
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We must arm this Saddam fellow to counter the radicals in Iran!
Posted by: More Deep State Success Stories
I am expressing personal wishes, not state policy.
State policy should be Westphalian to deal with existing rulers as such but individuals should never be constrained not to call a tyrant what they are.
Too many people are enamored of Putin on the basis of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same with the Brics group.
We did that with Stalin and how exactly did that work out.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (ctrM5)
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Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
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she is very good
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she is very good
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (V13WU)
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167 — Thank you Dave in FL
I knew immediately that Iowa poll was bullshit and a psy op to depress republican turnout on Election Day because all evidence points to: Trump has already won…. Presuming only that his voters show up on Tuesday. Vote vote vote fight fight fight
I knew immediately that Iowa poll was bullshit and a psy op to depress republican turnout on Election Day because all evidence points to: Trump has already won…. Presuming only that his voters show up on Tuesday. Vote vote vote fight fight fight
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (6RwsA)
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Step back a second on the Russian Victory Dance; the ideas floated here that their economy is booming and that there are long lines of eager volunteers are, um, imaginary.
So are the General Petreaus and TimesRadio YouTubes of "Putin shits his pants" propaganda, but what we know is not what things are.
Step back a second on the Russian Victory Dance; the ideas floated here that their economy is booming and that there are long lines of eager volunteers are, um, imaginary.
So are the General Petreaus and TimesRadio YouTubes of "Putin shits his pants" propaganda, but what we know is not what things are.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (j4U/Z)
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Put another way - Trump took a bullet for us, the least we can do is stand in line a few hours for him.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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lulz
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
In its final poll of the campaign, the New York Times admits it has no idea how to poll white Republicans because they don’t respond to pollsters.
https://tinyurl.com/jx7j2e2u
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
In its final poll of the campaign, the New York Times admits it has no idea how to poll white Republicans because they don’t respond to pollsters.
https://tinyurl.com/jx7j2e2u
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (VFJAx)
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What few, especially our State Dept, understand is that this isn't Brezhnev's Soviet foul up. This is Putin's Russia and Putin knows that his dominance comes from the prosperity of his people. Which in turn makes for a productive people.
Every step State Dept. & the Regulators take is killing us while it causes Russia to prosper.
Every step State Dept. & the Regulators take is killing us while it causes Russia to prosper.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (ozQLF)
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Put another way - Trump took a bullet for us, the least we can do is stand in line a few hours for him.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Ballot for bullet.
Fair deal!
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Ballot for bullet.
Fair deal!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:55 PM (VFJAx)
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Ask anybody that's dealt with military contractors, they do this crap all the time.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (setIA)
Let's not forget all the War Reserve stockpiled vehicles that were supposed to be maintained and ready to go, and turned out to be broken and unusable.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 03, 2024 12:49 PM (setIA)
Let's not forget all the War Reserve stockpiled vehicles that were supposed to be maintained and ready to go, and turned out to be broken and unusable.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 03, 2024 12:55 PM (eSLO+)
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Everything about Trump assassins has gone down the rabbit hole
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 12:55 PM (fwDg9)
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I heard a bit of Trump's speech in PA this morn, he addressed the (fake) Iowa poll, pretty much called it BS , said he talked to Joni Ernst and she told him he is killing in Iowa. So 10% Emerson poll is accurate.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:56 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (V13WU)
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Too many people are enamored of Putin on the basis of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same with the Brics group.
The best possible outcome is for Putin to be peacefully replaced, and allowed to go into retirement, like Khrushchev. Under that scenario, you'd have some hope of getting someone who wasn't completely anti-Western.
The worst possible outcome is for Putin to be overthrown in a coup, because under that scenario, you'd definitely get a anti-Western hardliner from the military or intelligence services.
The best possible outcome is for Putin to be peacefully replaced, and allowed to go into retirement, like Khrushchev. Under that scenario, you'd have some hope of getting someone who wasn't completely anti-Western.
The worst possible outcome is for Putin to be overthrown in a coup, because under that scenario, you'd definitely get a anti-Western hardliner from the military or intelligence services.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (uxCna)
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@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (NpAcC)
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What? Who? So?
@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (NpAcC)
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What? Who? So?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (EsZUh)
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Republican running against Granny Warren.
He was too scared to endorse Trump.
Enjoy your 30 point loss...
WBZ | CBS News Boston
@wbz
Senate nominee John Deaton says it's time to end one-party rule in Massachusetts
He was too scared to endorse Trump.
Enjoy your 30 point loss...
WBZ | CBS News Boston
@wbz
Senate nominee John Deaton says it's time to end one-party rule in Massachusetts
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (TGPs7)
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Still doing better than the German economy.
Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I would not say individuals in Russia are doing much better than in Germany and I would imagine if they could, a fair number of Russians would just love to go and live in Germany.
Russia, as a rentier state, most of state revenues go towards maintaining the state with trickles down to the populace. It is in effect a larger version of Venezuela and if it is not careful will end up being dependents of the Chinese.
Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I would not say individuals in Russia are doing much better than in Germany and I would imagine if they could, a fair number of Russians would just love to go and live in Germany.
Russia, as a rentier state, most of state revenues go towards maintaining the state with trickles down to the populace. It is in effect a larger version of Venezuela and if it is not careful will end up being dependents of the Chinese.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (ctrM5)
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@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (NpAcC)
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They will all die alone and depressed. I am consoled.
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (NpAcC)
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They will all die alone and depressed. I am consoled.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (VFJAx)
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'Anything less guarantees endless repitition.'
There isn't any solution. The Israelis just need to keep the Gazans disarmed and the hell out of Israel. That's as close to a solution as they're going to get.
'Anything less guarantees endless repitition.'
There isn't any solution. The Israelis just need to keep the Gazans disarmed and the hell out of Israel. That's as close to a solution as they're going to get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (3wi/L)
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how did the PLO collapse ? a certain someone stopped funding them. same will happen with Hamas and the Hezbos. Peace on earth !
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 12:59 PM (V13WU)
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But many Veterans, like myself, feel betrayed by our own government. We won all the battles (eventually), but then Politicians made every victory meaningless, as they would declare defeat.
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It's damned distressing to hear Vets say, 'I would never encourage my son to join the military'. Sometimes that is the consequence of bad personal experience that they themselves had, but more often it is a consequence of observing the machinations of the politicians over the past ,oh, 50 years.
There is a malaise that has been visited upon us on all fronts that has drained the instinctive commitment to our country.
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It's damned distressing to hear Vets say, 'I would never encourage my son to join the military'. Sometimes that is the consequence of bad personal experience that they themselves had, but more often it is a consequence of observing the machinations of the politicians over the past ,oh, 50 years.
There is a malaise that has been visited upon us on all fronts that has drained the instinctive commitment to our country.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:00 PM (XeU6L)
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'When you can't stand down the Houthis to run the Red Sea with commercial and military traffic, what exactly is the point of world policing.'
Have you considered the possibility that we can but just don't?
'When you can't stand down the Houthis to run the Red Sea with commercial and military traffic, what exactly is the point of world policing.'
Have you considered the possibility that we can but just don't?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:00 PM (3wi/L)
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What? Who? So?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (EsZUh)
I choose to see all that as delightful trolling snark and not people saying what they actually think.
I choose, because i have no choice.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 12:57 PM (EsZUh)
I choose to see all that as delightful trolling snark and not people saying what they actually think.
I choose, because i have no choice.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:00 PM (DDGz9)
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The Israelis just need to keep the Gazans disarmed and the hell out of Israel. That's as close to a solution as they're going to get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (3wi/L)
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Not enough, as history has repeatedly shown.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (3wi/L)
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Not enough, as history has repeatedly shown.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:00 PM (VFJAx)
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Is the US really a superpower? Let's ask the Taliban or Hoothis or Somali warlords.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 03, 2024 01:01 PM (wBaIH)
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Defiant L’s
@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood
Say what you will about feminism, they've proved that they are every bit as venal, vicious, and vile as we are.
@DefiantLs
This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
https://tinyurl.com/3vua4xzf
Posted by: redridinghood
Say what you will about feminism, they've proved that they are every bit as venal, vicious, and vile as we are.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:01 PM (L/fGl)
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Israelis cut off UNWRA who had the entire Hamas apparatus on its payroll. They will do something with Iran. It takes time, but I think it might be get done this time.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:02 PM (V13WU)
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You don't need to kill all of them. Just enough of them.
Posted by: Warai Von Otokowitz at November 03, 2024 01:02 PM (DDGz9)
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Sean Davis
@seanmdav
In its final poll of the campaign, the New York Times admits it has no idea how to poll white Republicans because they don’t respond to pollsters.
https://tinyurl.com/jx7j2e2u
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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You have to read that in Russian, like Pravda, what it's saying is;
they have no idea whether the Commies will be able to cheat out the Republicans.
@seanmdav
In its final poll of the campaign, the New York Times admits it has no idea how to poll white Republicans because they don’t respond to pollsters.
https://tinyurl.com/jx7j2e2u
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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You have to read that in Russian, like Pravda, what it's saying is;
they have no idea whether the Commies will be able to cheat out the Republicans.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:02 PM (ozQLF)
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The best possible outcome is for Putin to be peacefully replaced, and allowed to go into retirement, like Khrushchev. Under that scenario, you'd have some hope of getting someone who wasn't completely anti-Western.
The worst possible outcome is for Putin to be overthrown in a coup, because under that scenario, you'd definitely get a anti-Western hardliner from the military or intelligence services.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I have no idea about it but we shouldn't pick whoever the Russians want to prop up as their El Supremo. That always tends to backfire.
Putin may be the best tyrant around that can control the disparate factions there but that itself does not mean he is 'good' by any objective means including religious. And succession in a tyrant's world is never a smooth process. Xi has the same problem. You either make it hereditary like the Kims did (which has its own set of problems), do something like the Romans and Byzantines do--adopting your political heir and puttting them in as El Supremo to be, or you have survival of the fittest and meanest as the sultans did in the Ottoman Empire.
The worst possible outcome is for Putin to be overthrown in a coup, because under that scenario, you'd definitely get a anti-Western hardliner from the military or intelligence services.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I have no idea about it but we shouldn't pick whoever the Russians want to prop up as their El Supremo. That always tends to backfire.
Putin may be the best tyrant around that can control the disparate factions there but that itself does not mean he is 'good' by any objective means including religious. And succession in a tyrant's world is never a smooth process. Xi has the same problem. You either make it hereditary like the Kims did (which has its own set of problems), do something like the Romans and Byzantines do--adopting your political heir and puttting them in as El Supremo to be, or you have survival of the fittest and meanest as the sultans did in the Ottoman Empire.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:03 PM (ctrM5)
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This might be the worst thing I’ve seen today… What in the hell did I just read!?
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It's almost as if there is something in the water. Swathes of the public have become separated from reality.
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It's almost as if there is something in the water. Swathes of the public have become separated from reality.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:03 PM (XeU6L)
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CBD looks at some pins on the map, notes Ukraine's status with its manpower, then jumps to conclude - Russia will prevail. If this were so - Russia WOULD HAVE ALREADY PREVAILED - and Zelensky's government would be gone.
CBD needs to get out the Windex and clean up his crystal ball. He's not seeing the reality of the war.
Posted by: Major Rage at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (Ba0XO)
Wow, that's just silly.
You people start with the WRONG premise, then reach your conclusions based on your poor understanding of the situation.
Russia is doing exactly what they intended, and at this point they're just waitng for idiots in the West to realize this is over.
Until they do, more Ukes die.
CBD needs to get out the Windex and clean up his crystal ball. He's not seeing the reality of the war.
Posted by: Major Rage at November 03, 2024 12:53 PM (Ba0XO)
Wow, that's just silly.
You people start with the WRONG premise, then reach your conclusions based on your poor understanding of the situation.
Russia is doing exactly what they intended, and at this point they're just waitng for idiots in the West to realize this is over.
Until they do, more Ukes die.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:03 PM (nuSLP)
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You have to read that in Russian, like Pravda, what it's saying is;
they have no idea whether the Commies will be able to cheat out the Republicans.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:02 PM (ozQLF)
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I have confidence in the Regime.
they have no idea whether the Commies will be able to cheat out the Republicans.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:02 PM (ozQLF)
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I have confidence in the Regime.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (VFJAx)
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They will all die alone and depressed. I am consoled.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (VFJAx)
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If Kammie and Friends pull this one out, I can assure you I won't care what happens to any woman in this country (Her Majesty, family and 'ettes excepted). They voted for it, they put her over, they can live with it.
They will all die alone and depressed. I am consoled.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 12:58 PM (VFJAx)
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If Kammie and Friends pull this one out, I can assure you I won't care what happens to any woman in this country (Her Majesty, family and 'ettes excepted). They voted for it, they put her over, they can live with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (EsZUh)
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I think that Iowa poll that's freaking everyone out was, how you say? ... rigged. IIRC had something to do with abortion, and the sampling was, irregular.
Election interference.
Election interference.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 03, 2024 01:06 PM (Q4IgG)
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'123 Rootin' for Putin since Day 1. ...
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Yeah, no shit. Cheering for the home team.
'123 Rootin' for Putin since Day 1. ...
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Yeah, no shit. Cheering for the home team.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:06 PM (3wi/L)
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The United States is still a superpower. The problem is that senior management is unable, unwilling and incapable of effectively wielding the sword.
Posted by: Archer at November 03, 2024 01:06 PM (IDphi)
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(Her Majesty, family and 'ettes excepted). They voted for it, they put her over, they can live with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Would that it were so simple. We will all be swept into the gutter of government-controlled societal decay
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Would that it were so simple. We will all be swept into the gutter of government-controlled societal decay
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:07 PM (XeU6L)
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Send the Gaza occupants to Egypt and let Sisi sort it out.
_No, Israel kicks in the gate there will not be a war with Egypt.
_No, Israel kicks in the gate there will not be a war with Egypt.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ozQLF)
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220 Is the US really a superpower? Let's ask the Taliban or Hoothis or Somali warlords.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
The Houthis, Somalis, and the Taliban could each have been dealt with but it requires a level of ruthlessness that a catlady society is unable to muster.
B-52s carpet bombing them from the sky like Linebacker I and II and destroying every Iranian marked plane and ship going to the Houthis would do it. We do not do that anymore for better or worse and thus getting into wars will always risk a Custer and Indian scenario.
Total war is ruthless but resolves problems for far longer than whack a mole.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
The Houthis, Somalis, and the Taliban could each have been dealt with but it requires a level of ruthlessness that a catlady society is unable to muster.
B-52s carpet bombing them from the sky like Linebacker I and II and destroying every Iranian marked plane and ship going to the Houthis would do it. We do not do that anymore for better or worse and thus getting into wars will always risk a Custer and Indian scenario.
Total war is ruthless but resolves problems for far longer than whack a mole.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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They voted for it, they put her over, they can live with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (EsZUh)
They think my fantasy is a society with kept women used as breeding stock and made to wear wimples because eeeewww nuns or something.
In reality my fantasy is that they get their damn tubes tied, shot up to their eyeballs with Valium, and physically shackled to an old tv/vcr cart playing the lectures of Rothbard, Sowell, and Friedman on loop.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (EsZUh)
They think my fantasy is a society with kept women used as breeding stock and made to wear wimples because eeeewww nuns or something.
In reality my fantasy is that they get their damn tubes tied, shot up to their eyeballs with Valium, and physically shackled to an old tv/vcr cart playing the lectures of Rothbard, Sowell, and Friedman on loop.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (DDGz9)
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If Kammie and Friends pull this one out, I can assure you I won't care what happens to any woman in this country (Her Majesty, family and 'ettes excepted). They voted for it, they put her over, they can live with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (EsZUh)
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Something has gone very wrong with women these days. I am almost embarrassed to be one.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:04 PM (EsZUh)
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Something has gone very wrong with women these days. I am almost embarrassed to be one.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (NpAcC)
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Kamala is a woman for all seasons.
CNN exposes Kamala's campaign for running pro-Israel AND pro-ceasefire ads depending on the state she's campaigning in
https://is.gd/aShDGK
CNN exposes Kamala's campaign for running pro-Israel AND pro-ceasefire ads depending on the state she's campaigning in
https://is.gd/aShDGK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
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The United States is still a superpower. The problem is that senior management is unable, unwilling and incapable of effectively wielding the sword.
Byzantium had a stronger military, let alone economy and social structure, then the Turks.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Byzantium had a stronger military, let alone economy and social structure, then the Turks.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (oZhjI)
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Republican lead in Arizona in early vote is now 188,000.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 01:09 PM (5p7BC)
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Step back a second on the Russian Victory Dance; the ideas floated here that their economy is booming and that there are long lines of eager volunteers are, um, imaginary.
So are the General Petreaus and TimesRadio YouTubes of "Putin shits his pants" propaganda, but what we know is not what things are.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (j4U/Z)
You have every right to believe what you want, but Russia is doing fine, Pootin is hugely popular, and this war has been over for a long time.
The West nears collapse, but keeps looking for bread crumbs as evidence that we're doing fine, when we're not.
Nor is a Trump victory going to suddenly fix things.
The world is changing, folks. You don't have to like it, but it is.
So are the General Petreaus and TimesRadio YouTubes of "Putin shits his pants" propaganda, but what we know is not what things are.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 12:54 PM (j4U/Z)
You have every right to believe what you want, but Russia is doing fine, Pootin is hugely popular, and this war has been over for a long time.
The West nears collapse, but keeps looking for bread crumbs as evidence that we're doing fine, when we're not.
Nor is a Trump victory going to suddenly fix things.
The world is changing, folks. You don't have to like it, but it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (sDrVA)
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The United States is still a superpower. The problem is that senior management is unable, unwilling and incapable of effectively wielding the sword.
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to do what exactly ? to start unnecessary war somewhere in Europe? Bomb Serbia gain ?
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to do what exactly ? to start unnecessary war somewhere in Europe? Bomb Serbia gain ?
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (V13WU)
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We will all be swept into the gutter of government-controlled societal decay
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:07 PM (XeU6L)
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I will save myself and those I love. The Kammie Kweens can get everything the decay agents dish out.
We will all be swept into the gutter of government-controlled societal decay
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:07 PM (XeU6L)
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I will save myself and those I love. The Kammie Kweens can get everything the decay agents dish out.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (EsZUh)
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Regarding the Selzer IA poll, I'm reminded of how, for years, Larry Sabato was constantly referred to as this polling guru; trusted, respected, etc., etc.
And last week, he called the MSG rally a Nazi rally.
And last week, he called the MSG rally a Nazi rally.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (xkwZj)
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We're in the Endgame if Trump wins,
but the beginning game if Kamala does,
as the Deep State needs its war and depopulation.
Let the Nukes fly...
but the beginning game if Kamala does,
as the Deep State needs its war and depopulation.
Let the Nukes fly...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 01:11 PM (TGPs7)
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>>>B-52s carpet bombing them from the sky like Linebacker I and II and destroying every Iranian marked plane and ship going to the Houthis would do it. ...
Total war is ruthless but resolves problems for far longer than whack a mole.
Posted by: whig
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Those B-52s have longer range than that.
Total war is ruthless but resolves problems for far longer than whack a mole.
Posted by: whig
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Those B-52s have longer range than that.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:11 PM (ozQLF)
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Afternoon CBD and thx.
The final battle for ChassivYar is taking place . It's one of the last high points in the Donbas. After that it's flat to the Dneipre
The final battle for ChassivYar is taking place . It's one of the last high points in the Donbas. After that it's flat to the Dneipre
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 03, 2024 01:13 PM (O8bOp)
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_No, Israel kicks in the gate there will not be a war with Egypt.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ozQLF)
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Nope. "Accidents" happen. And then you have to find who caused them.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ozQLF)
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Nope. "Accidents" happen. And then you have to find who caused them.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:13 PM (VFJAx)
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B-52s carpet bombing them from the sky like Linebacker I and II and destroying every Iranian marked plane and ship going to the Houthis would do it.
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History has forgotten that the North Vietnamese were begging for an armistice during Linebacker II. They were out of SAMs. We won.
B-52s carpet bombing them from the sky like Linebacker I and II and destroying every Iranian marked plane and ship going to the Houthis would do it.
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History has forgotten that the North Vietnamese were begging for an armistice during Linebacker II. They were out of SAMs. We won.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:13 PM (EsZUh)
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How long did it take for Joe and Kamala to double the price of everything? What else did they do in the past two years that was an impediment to your life? Now, give them total control.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (ozQLF)
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'Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina'
Uh Giddy-up. A oom poppa, oom poppa mau mau.
Uh Giddy-up. A oom poppa, oom poppa mau mau.
'Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina'
Uh Giddy-up. A oom poppa, oom poppa mau mau.
Uh Giddy-up. A oom poppa, oom poppa mau mau.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (3wi/L)
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One thing I am certain of is that the people who think Putin is some kind of genius haven't been paying attention.
One thing I am certain of is that the people who think Putin is some kind of genius haven't been paying attention.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (j4U/Z)
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We're in the Endgame if Trump wins,
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 01:11 PM (TGPs7)
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He won't. The cheat is on. It's worth everything to the Regime:
FischerKing
@FischerKing64
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1h
Reminder that Trump currently has a sentencing date of November 26 on the "34 felony convictions."
So if he loses, the plan is to jail him quickly so that he isn't in a position to challenge any irregularities.
So Tuesday is very important. He's gotta win, you gotta vote.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 01:11 PM (TGPs7)
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He won't. The cheat is on. It's worth everything to the Regime:
FischerKing
@FischerKing64
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1h
Reminder that Trump currently has a sentencing date of November 26 on the "34 felony convictions."
So if he loses, the plan is to jail him quickly so that he isn't in a position to challenge any irregularities.
So Tuesday is very important. He's gotta win, you gotta vote.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (VFJAx)
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238 Kamala is a woman for all seasons.
CNN exposes Kamala's campaign for running pro-Israel AND pro-ceasefire ads depending on the state she's campaigning in
https://is.gd/aShDGK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
Right now, I have principles for you, you, you, and YOU!
Puhleeez don't bitch when I dump all my stated campaign 'principles' when I become Queen of the US. You should have known I was lying to get elected! (cackle cackle cackle cackle)
CNN exposes Kamala's campaign for running pro-Israel AND pro-ceasefire ads depending on the state she's campaigning in
https://is.gd/aShDGK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
Right now, I have principles for you, you, you, and YOU!
Puhleeez don't bitch when I dump all my stated campaign 'principles' when I become Queen of the US. You should have known I was lying to get elected! (cackle cackle cackle cackle)
Posted by: Kamala Devi Harris at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (aBgBM)
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Republican lead in Arizona in early vote is now 188,000.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 01:09 PM (5p7BC)
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I'm worried that there might be a lot of McCain Republicans voting for Kamala.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 01:09 PM (5p7BC)
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I'm worried that there might be a lot of McCain Republicans voting for Kamala.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
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One anecdotal point: Early voting for our county (TN) ended on Thursday. Late yesterday, limited data was released by the Board of Elections - A bit more than half (52%) of eligible voters had already cast their ballots. They board is predicting the largest turnout ever (by percentage) by the end of Tuesday.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:16 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (V13WU)
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This is a shocking turn of events.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ozQLF)
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Our political opponents are not acting at all like folks who have the election in the bag. This ham-fisted Iowa poll is just the latest example…. It’s a bungled effort to depress Trump turnout which is their last hope given EV realities. But they’re so incompetent and desperate they put something out there that has no credibility that’s obviously rigged, which fails and makes them even more desperate…
Other recent examples: Trump wants Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, he’s gonna put people in camps, fascist!! It’s all so ham-fisted and reeking of desperation
Other recent examples: Trump wants Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, he’s gonna put people in camps, fascist!! It’s all so ham-fisted and reeking of desperation
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ANuwa)
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One thing I am certain of is that the people who think Putin is some kind of genius haven't been paying attention.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (j4U/Z)
He's smarter than damn near anyone else running a country these days.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 01:15 PM (j4U/Z)
He's smarter than damn near anyone else running a country these days.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:18 PM (sDrVA)
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TN?! I thought you were in OH !
Posted by: runner
Used to be. I was compelled to move to a location with reasonable taxes and natural beauty.
Posted by: runner
Used to be. I was compelled to move to a location with reasonable taxes and natural beauty.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:18 PM (WXNFJ)
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257 Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:16 PM (WXNFJ)
TN?! I thought you were in OH !
Posted by: runner
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He bought a bale of hay and stuck a stem between his teeth.
See the big grin?
TN?! I thought you were in OH !
Posted by: runner
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He bought a bale of hay and stuck a stem between his teeth.
See the big grin?
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:19 PM (ozQLF)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:19 PM (VFJAx)
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But we have always been at war with Eurasia..
Posted by: Eromero at November 03, 2024 01:20 PM (kMxXy)
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He bought a bale of hay and stuck a stem between his teeth.
See the big grin?
Posted by: Braenyard
Heh! If one wears a Polo shirt around here, you are dressing up.
See the big grin?
Posted by: Braenyard
Heh! If one wears a Polo shirt around here, you are dressing up.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:20 PM (WXNFJ)
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CNN exposes Kamala's campaign for running pro-Israel AND pro-ceasefire ads depending on the state she's campaigning in
https://is.gd/aShDGK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
At least when Arafat did that kind of thing he had the courtesy to do it in 2 different languages.
https://is.gd/aShDGK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)
At least when Arafat did that kind of thing he had the courtesy to do it in 2 different languages.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:20 PM (S6gqv)
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Late-Night TV Expert: Show Profits “Shrunk Toward Non-Existent”
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With comedy geniuses like Colbert and Kimmel?!!!
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With comedy geniuses like Colbert and Kimmel?!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
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'Those B-52s have longer range than that.'
Are you saying they could go bomb a place with lots of Iranian marked planes?
'Those B-52s have longer range than that.'
Are you saying they could go bomb a place with lots of Iranian marked planes?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:21 PM (3wi/L)
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Saw on X and didn't book mark it.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:21 PM (ozQLF)
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260 Our political opponents are not acting at all like folks who have the election in the bag. This ham-fisted Iowa poll is just the latest example…. It’s a bungled effort to depress Trump turnout which is their last hope given EV realities. But they’re so incompetent and desperate they put something out there that has no credibility that’s obviously rigged, which fails and makes them even more desperate…
Other recent examples: Trump wants Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, he’s gonna put people in camps, fascist!! It’s all so ham-fisted and reeking of desperation
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ANuwa)
We are in the Democrat F.U.D. Ops final stage.
Other recent examples: Trump wants Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad, he’s gonna put people in camps, fascist!! It’s all so ham-fisted and reeking of desperation
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 01:17 PM (ANuwa)
We are in the Democrat F.U.D. Ops final stage.
Posted by: Gref at November 03, 2024 01:22 PM (aBgBM)
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266 He bought a bale of hay and stuck a stem between his teeth.
See the big grin?
Posted by: Braenyard
Heh! If one wears a Polo shirt around here, you are dressing up.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:20 PM (WXNFJ
Overalls and straw hat.
See the big grin?
Posted by: Braenyard
Heh! If one wears a Polo shirt around here, you are dressing up.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:20 PM (WXNFJ
Overalls and straw hat.
Posted by: Eromero at November 03, 2024 01:22 PM (kMxXy)
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Are you saying they could go bomb a place with lots of Iranian marked planes?
Posted by: Dr. Claw
"Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb bomb Iran!"
Posted by: Dr. Claw
"Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb bomb Iran!"
Posted by: The Beach Boys at November 03, 2024 01:22 PM (WXNFJ)
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Are you saying they could go bomb a place with lots of Iranian marked planes?
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Long time comming.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Long time comming.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ozQLF)
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18 The Ukraine war is like the election; I just want it over.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
I agree. I don't care who wins, however one defines what that means. I'm just tired of seeing young men slaughtered.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
I agree. I don't care who wins, however one defines what that means. I'm just tired of seeing young men slaughtered.
Posted by: javems at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (8I4hW)
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Jenifer Rubin on the Peanut extermination:
https://tinyurl.com/2bswrc3t
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
That surprises me. I thought the rodents would stick together.
https://tinyurl.com/2bswrc3t
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
That surprises me. I thought the rodents would stick together.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (L/fGl)
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Sounds like they're pretty much pulling even with us, in that case.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky
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Not really. That 21 percent prime rate basically destroys business investment (and spending on weapons that will promptly be destroyed is NOT investment) because no business can get loans. Inflation, even by Russian admission is about 9-10 percent right now which means cost of living doubles in less than 8 years.
Never assume the grass is greener elsewhere just because the situation in the US sucks right now.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky
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Not really. That 21 percent prime rate basically destroys business investment (and spending on weapons that will promptly be destroyed is NOT investment) because no business can get loans. Inflation, even by Russian admission is about 9-10 percent right now which means cost of living doubles in less than 8 years.
Never assume the grass is greener elsewhere just because the situation in the US sucks right now.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ctrM5)
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He's smarter than damn near anyone else running a country these days.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:18 PM (sDrVA)
Thanks for making my point!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:18 PM (sDrVA)
Thanks for making my point!
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 01:24 PM (j4U/Z)
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What is really sad about this is this has played out exactly as a number of people including my humble self had foreseen after the the Russians decided to stay after the initial decapitation strikes failed. It turned into a style of war that favors Russian tactics.
It's just the body count is beyond any kind of modern standards and that fact that the timeline has changed for the worse for two countries.
It has to stop. Nobody won. Go home. Change your leaders because they are responsible. And the US State department needs to be shaken to it's core.
It's just the body count is beyond any kind of modern standards and that fact that the timeline has changed for the worse for two countries.
It has to stop. Nobody won. Go home. Change your leaders because they are responsible. And the US State department needs to be shaken to it's core.
Posted by: pawn at November 03, 2024 01:24 PM (QB+5g)
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As regards polling, I know most here remember 2020 and don't want the same thing. But as I posted in the early lucid hours of the morning, this is not 2020. 2016 influenced what people thought in 2020, which is that the polls are underestimating Trump's vote. But the polls were right, because the Trump voter's profile materialized by then. And those polls showed Trump underperforming Biden. Rassmusen had Trump losing to Biden by 1-3. Now, 2024. If anything more Ds have moved to Trump, and in swing states Ds are not perfoming well where they excel - early GOTV. 2024 is not 2020.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:24 PM (V13WU)
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Damn! Just saw a Trump ad that should have been running continuously for the last two months.
Damn! Just saw a Trump ad that should have been running continuously for the last two months.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (EsZUh)
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That's the way to do it! I want my own Baby Jaguar...
🍹 Princess Consuela Banana-Hammock
@kimmie_c_
One day, I'll have my own Capybara...
and the government will never know
🍹 Princess Consuela Banana-Hammock
@kimmie_c_
One day, I'll have my own Capybara...
and the government will never know
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (TGPs7)
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I have long put it down the the Leftists they want the US to be equal to other countries, not above any other.
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (fwDg9)
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Saw on X and didn't book mark it.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Posted by: Braenyard
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https://tinyurl.com/5yua3u77
The cheat is on.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Posted by: Braenyard
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https://tinyurl.com/5yua3u77
The cheat is on.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (VFJAx)
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'History has forgotten that the North Vietnamese were begging for an armistice during Linebacker II.'
Watergate screwed us out of that victory.
'History has forgotten that the North Vietnamese were begging for an armistice during Linebacker II.'
Watergate screwed us out of that victory.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (3wi/L)
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>>You have every right to believe what you want, but Russia is doing fine, Pootin is hugely popular, and this war has been over for a long time.
The Government keeping you from trading in Russian Dollars was your first clue.
The Government keeping you from trading in Russian Dollars was your first clue.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (z/jjr)
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270 Saw on X and didn't book mark it.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Posted by: Braenyard
Got fixed same day. Go to Trump's stmt about it Saturday and the GOP. Bridge too far for the shitty urban election directors and they pissed off some GOP state legislators that are likely to retaliate next legislative session. Hopefully adopt something like the Florida law allowing election directors that flout the law to be removed by the state government. Getting rid of Snipes in Miami Dade improved that state's elections immediately.
Georgia? is throwing poll watchers out of the polling areas just like last time.
Posted by: Braenyard
Got fixed same day. Go to Trump's stmt about it Saturday and the GOP. Bridge too far for the shitty urban election directors and they pissed off some GOP state legislators that are likely to retaliate next legislative session. Hopefully adopt something like the Florida law allowing election directors that flout the law to be removed by the state government. Getting rid of Snipes in Miami Dade improved that state's elections immediately.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (ctrM5)
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With comedy geniuses like Colbert and Kimmel?!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
Why do the network dummies believe the kidz will watch pale, stale, male actors doing a terrible job of playing comedian roles when the kidz are addicted to TikTok? Top. Men.
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With comedy geniuses like Colbert and Kimmel?!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
Why do the network dummies believe the kidz will watch pale, stale, male actors doing a terrible job of playing comedian roles when the kidz are addicted to TikTok? Top. Men.
Posted by: Gref at November 03, 2024 01:26 PM (aBgBM)
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234 Send the Gaza occupants to Egypt and let Sisi sort it out.
_No, Israel kicks in the gate there will not be a war with Egypt.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ozQLF)
Most don’t realize that Egypt has more M1 tanks than any country in the world except the US, and has over twice the number of tanks and other armored vehicles than Israel has. Egypt also has an Air Force several times the size of Israel’s. The IDF does not want to start a war with them when they’re already engaged in 7 other fronts.
_No, Israel kicks in the gate there will not be a war with Egypt.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 03, 2024 01:08 PM (ozQLF)
Most don’t realize that Egypt has more M1 tanks than any country in the world except the US, and has over twice the number of tanks and other armored vehicles than Israel has. Egypt also has an Air Force several times the size of Israel’s. The IDF does not want to start a war with them when they’re already engaged in 7 other fronts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:26 PM (S6gqv)
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That surprises me. I thought the rodents would stick together.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (L/fGl)
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Every rat for herself!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:23 PM (L/fGl)
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Every rat for herself!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:26 PM (VFJAx)
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So if you allow me, I will believe the polls this time. Like Rasmussen who was very accurate in 2020.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:27 PM (V13WU)
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It has to stop. Nobody won. Go home. Change your leaders because they are responsible. And the US State department needs to be shaken to it's core.
Posted by: pawn
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I would change the State Dept to be only presidential ambassadors and then clerks doing passports, counsel affairs, etc.---no fifth floor or whatever the State Dept's equivalent to that of executive suites.
All spying to be done by military attaches.
Posted by: pawn
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I would change the State Dept to be only presidential ambassadors and then clerks doing passports, counsel affairs, etc.---no fifth floor or whatever the State Dept's equivalent to that of executive suites.
All spying to be done by military attaches.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:27 PM (ctrM5)
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Not all, but somewhat credible ones.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:28 PM (V13WU)
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The DNC needs a RICO investigation as the criminal organization that it is.
Posted by: Truth at November 03, 2024 01:28 PM (0pLZt)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 03, 2024 01:29 PM (3wi/L)
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I have a feeling of foreboding about this coming week. It will be close. It will be prolonged. It will be damaging.
I have a feeling of foreboding about this coming week. It will be close. It will be prolonged. It will be damaging.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:29 PM (EsZUh)
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If you want a picture of the conservative commentariat, picture a raft of dozens of sticky rodents, stuck together, forever.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:29 PM (DDGz9)
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The DNC needs a RICO investigation as the criminal organization that it is.
Posted by: Truth at November 03, 2024 01:28 PM (0pLZt)
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I would be more interested in sedition and treason cases.
Posted by: Truth at November 03, 2024 01:28 PM (0pLZt)
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I would be more interested in sedition and treason cases.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (VFJAx)
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The cheat is on.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (VFJAx)
The cheat is definably on and not just the poll watchers
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (VFJAx)
The cheat is definably on and not just the poll watchers
Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (P4Pk9)
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What's the difference between a superpower that will not fight to win and a paper tiger?
Who rules the Red Sea? Team Hoothi runs the world's most important shipping lane.
Who rules the Red Sea? Team Hoothi runs the world's most important shipping lane.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (wBaIH)
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>>' Trump wants Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad'
>>So do I.
...and, sitting on her father's lap.
>>So do I.
...and, sitting on her father's lap.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (z/jjr)
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The DNC needs a RICO investigation life in a SuperMax facility as the criminal organization that it is.
Posted by: Truth
fify
Posted by: Truth
fify
Posted by: The Beach Boys at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (WXNFJ)
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Damn bitch!
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (L/fGl)
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Republican lead in Arizona in early vote is now 188,000.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 01:09 PM (5p7BC)
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I'm worried that there might be a lot of McCain Republicans voting for Kamala.
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The one other factor that few have paid attention to is the net change in Trump's favorability. In both 2016 and 2020 he was near -20 territory.
Now he's around -6 and the media's effect has mostly worn out, even as they are yelling "Hitler" the loudest. The "ick" factor that traditional Goldwater/McCain voters might have expressed then has most likely lessened, as even Meghan McCain has flirted with Trump acceptance this season.
Democrats led in early vote by a significant margin in 2020 and 2022.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 03, 2024 01:09 PM (5p7BC)
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I'm worried that there might be a lot of McCain Republicans voting for Kamala.
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The one other factor that few have paid attention to is the net change in Trump's favorability. In both 2016 and 2020 he was near -20 territory.
Now he's around -6 and the media's effect has mostly worn out, even as they are yelling "Hitler" the loudest. The "ick" factor that traditional Goldwater/McCain voters might have expressed then has most likely lessened, as even Meghan McCain has flirted with Trump acceptance this season.
Posted by: theATL at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (BYfP9)
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What's the difference between a superpower that will not fight to win and a paper tiger?
Who rules the Red Sea? Team Hoothi runs the world's most important shipping lane.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (wBaIH)
Why assume they don't fight to win? Why discount the possibility that the Houthis squatting on shipping lanes is not part of their victory condition?
Who rules the Red Sea? Team Hoothi runs the world's most important shipping lane.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (wBaIH)
Why assume they don't fight to win? Why discount the possibility that the Houthis squatting on shipping lanes is not part of their victory condition?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (DDGz9)
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So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh8)
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The cheat is on.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (VFJAx)
The cheat is definably on and not just the poll watchers
Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (P4Pk9)
Our opponents are not omnipotent and wise… they are evil and have lizard cunning but they’re also stupid and, at this moment, they’re desperate…. Desperation and panic lead to mistakes….
I think it’s a mistake to ascribe superpowers to these people that they do not possess…
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (VFJAx)
The cheat is definably on and not just the poll watchers
Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 03, 2024 01:30 PM (P4Pk9)
Our opponents are not omnipotent and wise… they are evil and have lizard cunning but they’re also stupid and, at this moment, they’re desperate…. Desperation and panic lead to mistakes….
I think it’s a mistake to ascribe superpowers to these people that they do not possess…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (6RwsA)
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This is from 2004 The Atlantic article : "During the Reagan era Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were key players in a clandestine program designed to set aside the legal lines of succession and immediately install a new "President" in the event that a nuclear attack killed the country's leaders. The program helps explain the behavior of the Bush Administration on and after 9/11.." Wait, did you say set aside legal lines of succession and install a new "President"??? How can the Democrat party invite people that into their midst 1?! 11!
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (V13WU)
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306 So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
It was certainly a surprise to the squirrel.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
It was certainly a surprise to the squirrel.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (S6gqv)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:26 PM (S6gqv)
You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (d9fT1)
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Miley recently gave a speech to international bankers (the ones standing to lose the most if Ukraine is unable to meet the repayment of debts for any reason) to say that we are now in a multi-polar world, though to soften the statement he still claims the US is the sole superpower.
This is of course the very declaration made by Putin and Aleksandr Dugin at the beginning of this purposeless war and then the very idea was the very deepest and nastiest sort of lie because it of course denied that USA was the master of the Unipolar world, and that moving NATO into Ukraine and breaking Russia was essential for this to keep that keeping on.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (D7oie)
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Not sure why International bankers need to hear from a former loser general, but in this he isn't entirely wrong. The world has moved from a bi-polar (East v West) environment to a multi-polar one. And in a nuclear sense, this is very dangerous. MAD worked before. It is far less affective now.
This is of course the very declaration made by Putin and Aleksandr Dugin at the beginning of this purposeless war and then the very idea was the very deepest and nastiest sort of lie because it of course denied that USA was the master of the Unipolar world, and that moving NATO into Ukraine and breaking Russia was essential for this to keep that keeping on.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 03, 2024 12:33 PM (D7oie)
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Not sure why International bankers need to hear from a former loser general, but in this he isn't entirely wrong. The world has moved from a bi-polar (East v West) environment to a multi-polar one. And in a nuclear sense, this is very dangerous. MAD worked before. It is far less affective now.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 01:34 PM (W/lyH)
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So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
Nuts out for MAGA Squirrel.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
Nuts out for MAGA Squirrel.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:34 PM (DDGz9)
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The cheat is always on.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:34 PM (V13WU)
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>>You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
The bigger issue for Egypt: Egyptians are running their Military Hardware.
The bigger issue for Egypt: Egyptians are running their Military Hardware.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (z/jjr)
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>>>Got fixed same day. Go to Trump's stmt about it Saturday and the GOP. Bridge too far for the shitty urban election directors and they pissed off some GOP state legislators that are likely to retaliate next legislative session. Hopefully adopt something like the Florida law allowing election directors that flout the law to be removed by the state government. Getting rid of Snipes in Miami Dade improved that state's elections immediately.
Posted by: whig
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I'm confused. Right now, have they stopped the monkey business and are allowing poll watchers in?
Posted by: whig
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I'm confused. Right now, have they stopped the monkey business and are allowing poll watchers in?
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (ozQLF)
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Byzantium had a stronger military, let alone economy and social structure, then the Turks.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Posted by: 18-1
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Genetically, the Greeks still won as apparently it raised a furor when genetics from 23andme, etc. came about in Turkey. Not turks from central plains but plain ole Greek ancestry. Caused a big stink which led to Erdogan and Turkish society going nuts about denials.
But, the Byzantines were drained by incessant wars with Persia until both countries exhausted themselves. Those wars necessitated high tax rates stifling ordinary folks from living. Then you had several devastating plagues, poor harvests, Egypt, the granary of Byzantium was lost.
So it was more that all the remaining regular folks wanting to live in that area of the world recognized different management and religion instead of dying for the unpopular Byzantine regime.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Posted by: 18-1
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Genetically, the Greeks still won as apparently it raised a furor when genetics from 23andme, etc. came about in Turkey. Not turks from central plains but plain ole Greek ancestry. Caused a big stink which led to Erdogan and Turkish society going nuts about denials.
But, the Byzantines were drained by incessant wars with Persia until both countries exhausted themselves. Those wars necessitated high tax rates stifling ordinary folks from living. Then you had several devastating plagues, poor harvests, Egypt, the granary of Byzantium was lost.
So it was more that all the remaining regular folks wanting to live in that area of the world recognized different management and religion instead of dying for the unpopular Byzantine regime.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (ctrM5)
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Damn bitch!
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (L/fGl)
I assume there HAVE been plenty of Roger Rabbi 2 short films made, that prominently feature Jessica Rabbit.
Or at least plenty of stills from same.
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (L/fGl)
I assume there HAVE been plenty of Roger Rabbi 2 short films made, that prominently feature Jessica Rabbit.
Or at least plenty of stills from same.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (yNdh8)
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forWAR'd: IceKingJOE did this -- and ctHARRIS wouldn't change a THING!
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeDidTHIS-Ukraine
“Ukraine was the top, or one of the top three, foreign policy issues we were concentrating on,” said Mike Carpenter, Biden’s foreign policy and defense policy advisor at the time. “He was front and center.”
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-BlamesObama
“That’s why we are here. We f***ed it up.”
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Four days before President Trump was inaugurated in January 2017, the outgoing vice president, Joe Biden, was in Ukraine — his sixth visit in seven years — to deliver a rousing farewell speech.
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Few here doubt that Hunter Biden was offered a lucrative position on the board of Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company controlled by a controversial businessman, because of his father’s prominence.
Hunter Biden -- the b'wannabe: Damien Thorne to IceKingJOE's side belies the obviousness of the TRUTH -- JOE BIDEN is just NOT Gregory Peck enough!
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeDidTHIS-Ukraine
“Ukraine was the top, or one of the top three, foreign policy issues we were concentrating on,” said Mike Carpenter, Biden’s foreign policy and defense policy advisor at the time. “He was front and center.”
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-BlamesObama
“That’s why we are here. We f***ed it up.”
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Four days before President Trump was inaugurated in January 2017, the outgoing vice president, Joe Biden, was in Ukraine — his sixth visit in seven years — to deliver a rousing farewell speech.
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Few here doubt that Hunter Biden was offered a lucrative position on the board of Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company controlled by a controversial businessman, because of his father’s prominence.
Hunter Biden -- the b'wannabe: Damien Thorne to IceKingJOE's side belies the obviousness of the TRUTH -- JOE BIDEN is just NOT Gregory Peck enough!
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (bUCie)
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Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (L/fGl)
Working title: “Jessica does ToonTown!”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:31 PM (L/fGl)
Working title: “Jessica does ToonTown!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (S6gqv)
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>> So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?
We live in Retarded Times.
We live in Retarded Times.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:36 PM (z/jjr)
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I'm confused. Right now, have they stopped the monkey business and are allowing poll watchers in?
Posted by: Braenyard
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Whole issue came up on Saturday morning and was dealt with in a couple of hours.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Whole issue came up on Saturday morning and was dealt with in a couple of hours.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:36 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 03, 2024 01:36 PM (bUCie)
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I have a feeling of foreboding about this coming week. It will be close. It will be prolonged. It will be damaging.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:29 PM (EsZUh)
I'm debating whether to watch the live returns drama or read a book, go to bed, and read the morning election news. I've voted. There's nothing I can do now to influence the voting or the cheat. I'm leaning to Plan B. No stress. No matter what happens I can read the AOS election threads and learn the minute-by-minute story.
I have a feeling of foreboding about this coming week. It will be close. It will be prolonged. It will be damaging.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:29 PM (EsZUh)
I'm debating whether to watch the live returns drama or read a book, go to bed, and read the morning election news. I've voted. There's nothing I can do now to influence the voting or the cheat. I'm leaning to Plan B. No stress. No matter what happens I can read the AOS election threads and learn the minute-by-minute story.
Posted by: Gref at November 03, 2024 01:36 PM (aBgBM)
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"So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?"
There are obviously forces here that are beyond people's control.
There are obviously forces here that are beyond people's control.
Posted by: pawn at November 03, 2024 01:38 PM (QB+5g)
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Damn bitch!
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
She's not bad, they just draw her bad.
Robert Zemeckis Says There’s a “Good” “Roger Rabbit 2” Script That Will “Never” Get Made Because of Jessica Rabbit
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
She's not bad, they just draw her bad.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 03, 2024 01:39 PM (WXNFJ)
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Gref @323, the plan B would be my choice too, except I would be lying there imagining even worse things.
Posted by: skywch at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (uqhmb)
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Not sure why International bankers need to hear from a former loser general, but in this he isn't entirely wrong. The world has moved from a bi-polar (East v West) environment to a multi-polar one. And in a nuclear sense, this is very dangerous. MAD worked before. It is far less affective now.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 01:34 PM (W/lyH)
It's an interesting question, where this clown fits into the globalist scheme. I assume plenty of these generals are more like celebrity spokespersons for the MIC, and the extent to which the globalist regime depends on military superiority for their existence, General Milly Vanilly going there and getting blown by them sorta makes sense.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 01:34 PM (W/lyH)
It's an interesting question, where this clown fits into the globalist scheme. I assume plenty of these generals are more like celebrity spokespersons for the MIC, and the extent to which the globalist regime depends on military superiority for their existence, General Milly Vanilly going there and getting blown by them sorta makes sense.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (yNdh8)
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20:40 here. Offline. Might be woken up at 3-4AM if Iran decides to go through with their sworn threat.
Sweat dreams, everyone!
Sweat dreams, everyone!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (VFJAx)
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Russia will keep Donbas and Crimea.
Stalin giveth, Putin taketh away.
In other news, every country that can will be acquiring nukes.
Stalin giveth, Putin taketh away.
In other news, every country that can will be acquiring nukes.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (Hvq7a)
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Working title: “Jessica does ToonTown!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (S6gqv)
___________
In the movie, at least, Jessica was no slut.
Working title: “Jessica does ToonTown!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:35 PM (S6gqv)
___________
In the movie, at least, Jessica was no slut.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:41 PM (EsZUh)
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More a 1WP, I have a ton of leaves to start processing
Posted by: Skip at November 03, 2024 01:41 PM (fwDg9)
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So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
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Fairy tales can come true:
https://youtu.be/xrAIGLkSMls
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:32 PM (yNdh
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Fairy tales can come true:
https://youtu.be/xrAIGLkSMls
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 03, 2024 01:42 PM (VFJAx)
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So why was the squirrel killed? Is there some kind of explanation other than Democrats were involved?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (kTd/k)
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Slappy Squirrel > Peanut the Squirrel
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (z/jjr)
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279 What is really sad about this is this has played out exactly as a number of people including my humble self had foreseen after the the Russians decided to stay after the initial decapitation strikes failed. It turned into a style of war that favors Russian tactics.
It's just the body count is beyond any kind of modern standards and that fact that the timeline has changed for the worse for two countries.
It has to stop. Nobody won. Go home. Change your leaders because they are responsible. And the US State department needs to be shaken to it's core.
Posted by: pawn
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Yep. It does need to. But it will continue if Que Mala gets elected because they dare not admit reality that the Democrats in US screwed up foreign policy big time.
First by the stupid color revolution in 2014, next by making Putin an outlaw (while embracing Xi), then provoking Putin via Nato accession for Ukraine in Biden's term. The prowar uniparty faction of conservatives thought it was great too.
In reality, is was a big of a mess as Germany sending Lenin to Russia via a sealed train. Might appear to be good idea in the short run but long term was idiotic and boomeranged on Germany.
It's just the body count is beyond any kind of modern standards and that fact that the timeline has changed for the worse for two countries.
It has to stop. Nobody won. Go home. Change your leaders because they are responsible. And the US State department needs to be shaken to it's core.
Posted by: pawn
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Yep. It does need to. But it will continue if Que Mala gets elected because they dare not admit reality that the Democrats in US screwed up foreign policy big time.
First by the stupid color revolution in 2014, next by making Putin an outlaw (while embracing Xi), then provoking Putin via Nato accession for Ukraine in Biden's term. The prowar uniparty faction of conservatives thought it was great too.
In reality, is was a big of a mess as Germany sending Lenin to Russia via a sealed train. Might appear to be good idea in the short run but long term was idiotic and boomeranged on Germany.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (ctrM5)
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310 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:26 PM (S6gqv)
You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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There's also a the necessary high level of competence which I am doubtful they have.
You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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There's also a the necessary high level of competence which I am doubtful they have.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (ozQLF)
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I think the unfortunate incident involving the deaths of the 2 pets is significant in that the state of NY will turn its gaze away from rampant lawlessness, even violent crimes in its cities, but let one guy in the 'burbs have 2 illegal pets and all of a sudden its NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, a 5 hour raid with 15 agents on his home.
It's emblematic, if you will.
It's emblematic, if you will.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 03, 2024 01:44 PM (MeG8a)
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I identify as Garbage.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 03, 2024 01:44 PM (W/lyH)
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What technological advantage does the west have. The West is helpless against Russia's hypersonic missiles.
Posted by: Gamecockjerry at November 03, 2024 01:44 PM (yjuy1)
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So why was the squirrel killed?
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Something about keeping wild animals in the home. You would think that NY would go after the frigging rats first.
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Something about keeping wild animals in the home. You would think that NY would go after the frigging rats first.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:44 PM (V13WU)
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324 "So is the "October Surprise" going to be a squirrel killed by the government?"
There are obviously forces here that are beyond people's control.
Posted by: pawn
The Lord works in mysterious ways beyond our ken. But the Lord does have a sense of humor in the champions that he picks.
There are obviously forces here that are beyond people's control.
Posted by: pawn
The Lord works in mysterious ways beyond our ken. But the Lord does have a sense of humor in the champions that he picks.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ctrM5)
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In other news, every country that can will be acquiring nukes.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (Hvq7a)
Want to fix the economy?
Start a nuke auction house. Churn the fucking things out as fast as you possibly can. Sell them to anyone with two coins of their local currency to rub together. Maximum proliferation. Fuck it, why not. The horse is halfway across the local cluster of galaxies and the barn door fell the fuck apart a lifetime ago. Let's party.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at November 03, 2024 01:40 PM (Hvq7a)
Want to fix the economy?
Start a nuke auction house. Churn the fucking things out as fast as you possibly can. Sell them to anyone with two coins of their local currency to rub together. Maximum proliferation. Fuck it, why not. The horse is halfway across the local cluster of galaxies and the barn door fell the fuck apart a lifetime ago. Let's party.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 03, 2024 01:45 PM (DDGz9)
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316 Byzantium had a stronger military, let alone economy and social structure, then the Turks.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Posted by: 18-1
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Eight hundred years.
But...the Byzantines wasted their energies whereas the Turks focused theirs and today we call those lands "Turkey"
Posted by: 18-1
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Eight hundred years.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ozQLF)
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>>So why was the squirrel killed? Is there some kind of explanation other than Democrats were involved?
NYS requires Licensing for keeping designated Wild Animals. Dude did not have one.
Dude also ran an 'Animal Rescue' and had 300+ Animals on Property.
Dude NOT getting his shit in order killed the squirrel.
Also: Rabies Testing requires a Brain Tissue Sample. They tested the Squirrel and Raccoon in order to make sure the other animals did not need to be quarantined / Tested / Euthanized, no doubt.
Also. I am doubting his 'sanctuary' was licensed at all.
NYS requires Licensing for keeping designated Wild Animals. Dude did not have one.
Dude also ran an 'Animal Rescue' and had 300+ Animals on Property.
Dude NOT getting his shit in order killed the squirrel.
Also: Rabies Testing requires a Brain Tissue Sample. They tested the Squirrel and Raccoon in order to make sure the other animals did not need to be quarantined / Tested / Euthanized, no doubt.
Also. I am doubting his 'sanctuary' was licensed at all.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:46 PM (z/jjr)
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You might want to check those numbers. Israel has almost as many combat planes, and Egypt's tank force includes a lot of obsolete tanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (d9fT1)
The M60’s are being put through a surprising upgrade program, designed by the Turks, in which they are given new turrets, new electronics, and new composite armor. It is said to make them about 75% as effective as an M1 at a fraction of the cost. Still, Egypt is reported to have over 1100 M1’s, plus about 1200 older models, making them a formidable force. (Far more powerful than Iran, for example).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 03, 2024 01:33 PM (d9fT1)
The M60’s are being put through a surprising upgrade program, designed by the Turks, in which they are given new turrets, new electronics, and new composite armor. It is said to make them about 75% as effective as an M1 at a fraction of the cost. Still, Egypt is reported to have over 1100 M1’s, plus about 1200 older models, making them a formidable force. (Far more powerful than Iran, for example).
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2024 01:46 PM (S6gqv)
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So why was the squirrel killed? Is there some kind of explanation other than Democrats were involved?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (kTd/k)
The squirrel was killed for defending its home during a forced entry by government agents.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 03, 2024 01:43 PM (kTd/k)
The squirrel was killed for defending its home during a forced entry by government agents.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 01:47 PM (rj6Yv)
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I have a feeling of foreboding about this coming week. It will be close. It will be prolonged. It will be damaging.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
My most sincere hope is that it hurts the Donks, and RINOs more than us.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
My most sincere hope is that it hurts the Donks, and RINOs more than us.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 03, 2024 01:47 PM (MsrgL)
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So how did the state of NY even become aware of the existence of Peanut? Some tattle tale neighbor? How else would they know? Tip lines FTW… call them fink lines
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 03, 2024 01:47 PM (ANuwa)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 03, 2024 01:47 PM (TGPs7)
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The proliferation of state offices (such as the squirrel killers) have another issue. They have to justify their bloated budgets. They NEED high profile arrests in order to go to the Treasury to show their works.
This was also the origin of the Waco-Koresh fiasco, imho.
A high profile, headline grabbing incident was needed, and boy, they got one.
This was also the origin of the Waco-Koresh fiasco, imho.
A high profile, headline grabbing incident was needed, and boy, they got one.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 03, 2024 01:48 PM (MeG8a)
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>>So how did the state of NY even become aware of the existence of Peanut?
Dude self-(tree)ratted by putting his shit out on the internet.
Dude self-(tree)ratted by putting his shit out on the internet.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:48 PM (z/jjr)
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So how did the state of NY even become aware of the existence of Peanut? Some tattle tale neighbor? How else would they know? Tip lines FTW… call them fink lines
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I heard tell, some busybody in TX made a call all the way to NY City after seeing Peanut perform on soc. media.
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I heard tell, some busybody in TX made a call all the way to NY City after seeing Peanut perform on soc. media.
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:49 PM (V13WU)
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As an elderly retired atty, I have a very high degree of confidence that Trump will not be "jailed immediately" following his sentence hearing in Bragg's Manhattan case.
There are multiple reasons, but getting to the heart of them:
1) Bragg's case is really peculiar and novel. It's based on a time-barred misdemeanor that morphed into 30 felonies.
2) SCOTUS has recently expressed grave doubts about novel prosecutions of a similar sort.
3) If the trial judge ordered Trump jailed immediately, i.e., denied him an appeal bond, either the NY appellate courts or a federal judge would likely reverse that, because of what I said in the second numbered paragraph. Bragg's case is one of the most target-rich environments for an appeal one can imagine. Johnathan Turley has explained this AT LENGTH. Even the DEMs have long said Bragg's case was the weakest & most dubious of all the lawfare cases brought against Trump.
There are multiple reasons, but getting to the heart of them:
1) Bragg's case is really peculiar and novel. It's based on a time-barred misdemeanor that morphed into 30 felonies.
2) SCOTUS has recently expressed grave doubts about novel prosecutions of a similar sort.
3) If the trial judge ordered Trump jailed immediately, i.e., denied him an appeal bond, either the NY appellate courts or a federal judge would likely reverse that, because of what I said in the second numbered paragraph. Bragg's case is one of the most target-rich environments for an appeal one can imagine. Johnathan Turley has explained this AT LENGTH. Even the DEMs have long said Bragg's case was the weakest & most dubious of all the lawfare cases brought against Trump.
Posted by: mnw at November 03, 2024 01:49 PM (NLIak)
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>>The proliferation of state offices (such as the squirrel killers) have another issue. They have to justify their bloated budgets. They NEED high profile arrests in order to go to the Treasury to show their works
I will complain about a ton of Agencies. But I will not complain about DNRC type agencies.
Some of their actions? Sure.
But not their existence.
I will complain about a ton of Agencies. But I will not complain about DNRC type agencies.
Some of their actions? Sure.
But not their existence.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:50 PM (z/jjr)
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Plan B. No stress. No matter what happens I can read the AOS election threads and learn the minute-by-minute story.
Posted by: Gref
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For almost a full month I was without water, electricity, telephone (including cell), obviously no internet. The focus became, drinking water, flushing water, non-perishable food (and a way to cook it).
In a way, it was a relief to be removed from the noise of society. I knew/heard nothing except that which was conveyed by neighbors, and damned little of that was about anything but our immediate circumstances. Not a desirable circumstance, but as I said, in a way relieving.
Frankly, I wasn't 100% happy when electricity and connection with the outside world was re-established. I did, in fact, miss you folk terribly
Posted by: Gref
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For almost a full month I was without water, electricity, telephone (including cell), obviously no internet. The focus became, drinking water, flushing water, non-perishable food (and a way to cook it).
In a way, it was a relief to be removed from the noise of society. I knew/heard nothing except that which was conveyed by neighbors, and damned little of that was about anything but our immediate circumstances. Not a desirable circumstance, but as I said, in a way relieving.
Frankly, I wasn't 100% happy when electricity and connection with the outside world was re-established. I did, in fact, miss you folk terribly
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:50 PM (XeU6L)
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Genetically, the Greeks still won as apparently it raised a furor when genetics from 23andme, etc. came about in Turkey. Not turks from central plains but plain ole Greek ancestry. Caused a big stink which led to Erdogan and Turkish society going nuts about denials.
Which is weird - that means instead of slaughtering the Greek inhabitants of Anatolia, the Turks turkified them.
You'd think that they'd be proud of that.
Which is weird - that means instead of slaughtering the Greek inhabitants of Anatolia, the Turks turkified them.
You'd think that they'd be proud of that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 01:50 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:51 PM (z/jjr)
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Dude self-(tree)ratted by putting his shit out on the internet.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:48 PM (z/jjr)
No one cared until a formal complaint was sent by someone apparently jealous of the owner's tik tok popularity.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:48 PM (z/jjr)
No one cared until a formal complaint was sent by someone apparently jealous of the owner's tik tok popularity.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 01:51 PM (rj6Yv)
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>>No one cared until a formal complaint was sent by someone apparently jealous of the owner's tik tok popularity.
Which, in and of itself would not have been sufficient to qualify for a Warrant.
The Videos, however...those made the Warrant an easy get.
Which, in and of itself would not have been sufficient to qualify for a Warrant.
The Videos, however...those made the Warrant an easy get.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:52 PM (z/jjr)
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I identify as Garbage.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:52 PM (XeU6L)
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Putin makes an appearance at the Central Moscow Synagogue during High Holy Days - the first Russian leader in history to do so.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 01:53 PM (uxCna)
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No one cared until a formal complaint was sent by someone apparently jealous of the owner's tik tok popularity.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 01:51 PM (rj6Yv)
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Some silly woman. Which nowadays is almost redundant.
No one cared until a formal complaint was sent by someone apparently jealous of the owner's tik tok popularity.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 01:51 PM (rj6Yv)
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Some silly woman. Which nowadays is almost redundant.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 01:53 PM (EsZUh)
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UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!
Every expert be it government, media, of democrat (but I repeat myself) has told us repeatedly that Ukraine will win. That the NATO countries will assure this and we just need to spend more taxpayer money.
We have the worst ruling elitists in the history of mankind.
Every expert be it government, media, of democrat (but I repeat myself) has told us repeatedly that Ukraine will win. That the NATO countries will assure this and we just need to spend more taxpayer money.
We have the worst ruling elitists in the history of mankind.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 03, 2024 01:54 PM (17s+e)
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IT WAS A FUCKING SQUIRREL!
Posted by: Thousands of Dead Raptors Under Windmills at November 03, 2024 01:54 PM (z/jjr)
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Those wars necessitated high tax rates stifling ordinary folks from living.
Surely that won't happen here. One third of money being deficit spending is totally sustainable forever.
Surely that won't happen here. One third of money being deficit spending is totally sustainable forever.
Posted by: Carlyl at November 03, 2024 01:54 PM (qqxKa)
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Putin makes an appearance at the Central Moscow Synagogue during High Holy Days - the first Russian leader in history to do so.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 01:53 PM (uxCna)
He is probably the first Russian leader to kiss the koran - which he did on his recent trip to Chechnya. The dude is a player!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 01:53 PM (uxCna)
He is probably the first Russian leader to kiss the koran - which he did on his recent trip to Chechnya. The dude is a player!
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 01:55 PM (V13WU)
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353 addendum
One of the most important factors in whether to grant an appeal bond is, "Does this case likely raise significant issues for appeal?"
Other appeal bond factors are just plain silly, as applied to Bragg's case, i.e., "Does the defendant present a significant risk of flight?"
One of the most important factors in whether to grant an appeal bond is, "Does this case likely raise significant issues for appeal?"
Other appeal bond factors are just plain silly, as applied to Bragg's case, i.e., "Does the defendant present a significant risk of flight?"
Posted by: mnw at November 03, 2024 01:55 PM (NLIak)
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I heard tell, some busybody in TX made a call all the way to NY City after seeing Peanut perform on soc. media.
Posted by: runner
@amuse@amuse
The ‘Karen’ who reported Peanut the rescue squirrel to authorities was allegedly angry that a squirrel had more instagram followers than she did and boasted to friends she was going to turn the little ‘rat’ in.
https://is.gd/5N5mZg
Posted by: runner
@amuse@amuse
The ‘Karen’ who reported Peanut the rescue squirrel to authorities was allegedly angry that a squirrel had more instagram followers than she did and boasted to friends she was going to turn the little ‘rat’ in.
https://is.gd/5N5mZg
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:56 PM (L/fGl)
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Also. I am doubting his 'sanctuary' was licensed at all.
The point was not seizing and killing the animals, the point was sending TEN COPS to execute the search warrant, and spending FIVE HOURS tearing the house apart (including dismantling the toilet) in response to an accusation that they were keeping illegal pets.
The point was not seizing and killing the animals, the point was sending TEN COPS to execute the search warrant, and spending FIVE HOURS tearing the house apart (including dismantling the toilet) in response to an accusation that they were keeping illegal pets.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 01:56 PM (uxCna)
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Is Donald Trump looking a little less orange than he used to or am I imagining it.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 03, 2024 01:57 PM (kTd/k)
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IT WAS A FUCKING SQUIRREL!
Posted by: Thousands of Dead Raptors Under Windmills at November 03, 2024 01:54 PM (z/jjr)
As if most NYers didn't hate Hochul enough. Gosh, I hope they don't take it out on Harris next Tuesday.
Posted by: Thousands of Dead Raptors Under Windmills at November 03, 2024 01:54 PM (z/jjr)
As if most NYers didn't hate Hochul enough. Gosh, I hope they don't take it out on Harris next Tuesday.
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 01:58 PM (rj6Yv)
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I identify as Garbage.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Probably clings bitterly to his guns and Bible.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Probably clings bitterly to his guns and Bible.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 01:58 PM (L/fGl)
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The outrage isn't just about the killing of a couple basically harmless pets. It's the ridiculous response by an increasingly tyrannical government to at worst a licensing violation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 03, 2024 01:58 PM (LkLld)
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The point was not seizing and killing the animals, the point was sending TEN COPS to execute the search warrant, and spending FIVE HOURS tearing the house apart
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The Roger Stone gambit.
The point was not seizing and killing the animals, the point was sending TEN COPS to execute the search warrant, and spending FIVE HOURS tearing the house apart
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The Roger Stone gambit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 01:59 PM (XeU6L)
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He is probably the first Russian leader to kiss the koran - which he did on his recent trip to Chechnya. The dude is a player!
There was a patriotic "we are all Russian citizens" song released recently in Russia, and the video carefully included a mosque, a synagogue, and a Buddhist temple.
There was a patriotic "we are all Russian citizens" song released recently in Russia, and the video carefully included a mosque, a synagogue, and a Buddhist temple.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (uxCna)
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Also: Rabies Testing requires a Brain Tissue Sample. They tested the Squirrel and Raccoon in order to make sure the other animals did not need to be quarantined / Tested / Euthanized, no doubt.
Also. I am doubting his 'sanctuary' was licensed at all.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:46 PM (z/jjr)
Actually, they alleged the squirrel bit a heavily gloved agent.
They came in with a SWAT team, because the guy had a squirrel and raccoon in his house. If that isn't the perfect illustration of our government today, I don't know what is.
And I'm very much for idiots running sanctuaries being shut down... if they don't know what they're doing. Not having the right paperwork isn't a valid reason.
Also. I am doubting his 'sanctuary' was licensed at all.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:46 PM (z/jjr)
Actually, they alleged the squirrel bit a heavily gloved agent.
They came in with a SWAT team, because the guy had a squirrel and raccoon in his house. If that isn't the perfect illustration of our government today, I don't know what is.
And I'm very much for idiots running sanctuaries being shut down... if they don't know what they're doing. Not having the right paperwork isn't a valid reason.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (d0mep)
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Harris will probably have an ad out tomorrow:
"I love squirrels! I love 'em to pieces! I love them so much I picked a squirrel to be my running mate!"
"I love squirrels! I love 'em to pieces! I love them so much I picked a squirrel to be my running mate!"
Posted by: mrp at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (O7YUW)
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It's the ridiculous response by an increasingly tyrannical government to at worst a licensing violation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 03, 2024 01:58 PM (LkLld)
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It's the ridiculous response coupled with their indifference toward far worse crimes widely committed.
It's the ridiculous response by an increasingly tyrannical government to at worst a licensing violation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 03, 2024 01:58 PM (LkLld)
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It's the ridiculous response coupled with their indifference toward far worse crimes widely committed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (EsZUh)
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I identify as Garbage.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Probably clings bitterly to his guns and Bible.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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And yet, is irredeemable.
My pronouns are Trash/Junk.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's deplorable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Probably clings bitterly to his guns and Bible.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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And yet, is irredeemable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 02:01 PM (XeU6L)
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>>The point was not seizing and killing the animals, the point was sending TEN COPS to execute the search warrant, and spending FIVE HOURS tearing the house apart (including dismantling the toilet) in response to an accusation that they were keeping illegal pets.
Fine. Complain about the methods. I have no problem with that.
But.
The Squirrel and Raccoon were killed by his unwillingness to get proper licensing. A foreseeable result of his inaction. Unlikely, perhaps. But predictable.
Fine. Complain about the methods. I have no problem with that.
But.
The Squirrel and Raccoon were killed by his unwillingness to get proper licensing. A foreseeable result of his inaction. Unlikely, perhaps. But predictable.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:01 PM (z/jjr)
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He is probably the first Russian leader to kiss the koran - which he did on his recent trip to Chechnya. The dude is a player!
Natan Sharansky, who knows more than a little about Russian antisemitism, has said that up until the Ukraine invasion, Putin had been good for the Jews.
Natan Sharansky, who knows more than a little about Russian antisemitism, has said that up until the Ukraine invasion, Putin had been good for the Jews.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 02:01 PM (uxCna)
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It's the ridiculous response coupled with their indifference toward far worse crimes widely committed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (EsZUh)
Exactly !
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 03, 2024 02:00 PM (EsZUh)
Exactly !
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 02:02 PM (V13WU)
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>>And I'm very much for idiots running sanctuaries being shut down... if they don't know what they're doing. Not having the right paperwork isn't a valid reason.
It actually is a valid reason. The DNRC is there to protect ALL resources.
Slap their dicks for being overzealous. But Licensing Requirements are the Law.
Play by the fucking rules of the game or suffer when there are consequences.
It actually is a valid reason. The DNRC is there to protect ALL resources.
Slap their dicks for being overzealous. But Licensing Requirements are the Law.
Play by the fucking rules of the game or suffer when there are consequences.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:03 PM (z/jjr)
385
The Government keeping you from trading in Russian Dollars was your first clue.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (z/jjr)
I was unaware the genius Putin had abolished the Ruble.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (z/jjr)
I was unaware the genius Putin had abolished the Ruble.
Posted by: Auspex at November 03, 2024 02:03 PM (j4U/Z)
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The Squirrel and Raccoon were killed by his unwillingness to get proper licensing. A foreseeable result of his inaction.
A foreseeable result of his inaction would be seeing him a letter informing him that he was keeping illegal pets, and setting a deadline for him to demonstrate that he had fixed the problem, either by getting rid of the pets or acquiring the appropriate licenses.
Not sending in a SWAT team.
A foreseeable result of his inaction would be seeing him a letter informing him that he was keeping illegal pets, and setting a deadline for him to demonstrate that he had fixed the problem, either by getting rid of the pets or acquiring the appropriate licenses.
Not sending in a SWAT team.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 02:04 PM (uxCna)
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>>>He is probably the first Russian leader to kiss the koran - which he did on his recent trip to Chechnya. The dude is a player!
Posted by: runner
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Russia is more productive, now, than any time in history.
Posted by: runner
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Russia is more productive, now, than any time in history.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 02:04 PM (ozQLF)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 03, 2024 02:05 PM (L/fGl)
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It actually is a valid reason. The DNRC is there to protect ALL resources.
Slap their dicks for being overzealous. But Licensing Requirements are the Law.
Play by the fucking rules of the game or suffer when there are consequences.
Posted by: garrett
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So is rioting and illegally crossing the border but....
Slap their dicks for being overzealous. But Licensing Requirements are the Law.
Play by the fucking rules of the game or suffer when there are consequences.
Posted by: garrett
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So is rioting and illegally crossing the border but....
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 03, 2024 02:05 PM (17s+e)
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>>The outrage isn't just about the killing of a couple basically harmless pets. It's the ridiculous response by an increasingly tyrannical government to at worst a licensing violation.
People only care because of the tail on that rat.
And those cute widdle 'hands' on Fred.
Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
People only care because of the tail on that rat.
And those cute widdle 'hands' on Fred.
Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:06 PM (z/jjr)
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The Squirrel and Raccoon were killed by his unwillingness to get proper licensing. A foreseeable result of his inaction. Unlikely, perhaps. But predictable.
Posted by: garrett
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It is required here that dogs be licensed. I never bothered. I doubt that one in ten here do. 18 years without a tag.
An obvious pretense for a home raid.
The Squirrel and Raccoon were killed by his unwillingness to get proper licensing. A foreseeable result of his inaction. Unlikely, perhaps. But predictable.
Posted by: garrett
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It is required here that dogs be licensed. I never bothered. I doubt that one in ten here do. 18 years without a tag.
An obvious pretense for a home raid.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 02:07 PM (XeU6L)
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385 The Government keeping you from trading in Russian Dollars was your first clue.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (z/jjr)
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Yeah, our genius govt. Putin played it and double the popularity.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 01:25 PM (z/jjr)
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Yeah, our genius govt. Putin played it and double the popularity.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 02:07 PM (ozQLF)
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>>So is rioting and illegally crossing the border but....
Nice Strawman.
Last I checked, the DNRC is not taxed with the enforcement of either of those issues.
Unless you cross the border with an invasive species of course. Like say Wild Horses.
Which we protect because retards see a pony.
Nice Strawman.
Last I checked, the DNRC is not taxed with the enforcement of either of those issues.
Unless you cross the border with an invasive species of course. Like say Wild Horses.
Which we protect because retards see a pony.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:08 PM (z/jjr)
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>>An obvious pretense for a home raid.
If someone is bit by your dog and reports it, it can and will happen.
Ignore the Laws. That's fine. But don't complain when probable outcome occur.
If someone is bit by your dog and reports it, it can and will happen.
Ignore the Laws. That's fine. But don't complain when probable outcome occur.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:09 PM (z/jjr)
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Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
Posted by: garrett
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It's not about the killing. It's about the way it was done. Next time it could be you.
Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
Posted by: garrett
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It's not about the killing. It's about the way it was done. Next time it could be you.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 02:09 PM (ozQLF)
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Which is weird - that means instead of slaughtering the Greek inhabitants of Anatolia, the Turks turkified them.
You'd think that they'd be proud of that.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Turks took it as the Greeks won anyway, the sneaky bastards.
You'd think that they'd be proud of that.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Turks took it as the Greeks won anyway, the sneaky bastards.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:10 PM (ctrM5)
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>>It's not about the killing. It's about the way it was done. Next time it could be you.
No. Because a single report is not sufficient to get a Warrant.
Dude had hours of video proof the animals were present and he did not have a License for them in the State.
No. Because a single report is not sufficient to get a Warrant.
Dude had hours of video proof the animals were present and he did not have a License for them in the State.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:10 PM (z/jjr)
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People only care because of the tail on that rat.
And those cute widdle 'hands' on Fred.
Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
Posted by: garrett
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Proportionality of punishment is that the guy gets a fine. Not send a swat team. You do not use a sword to spank a baby.
And those cute widdle 'hands' on Fred.
Sorry. Dude invited this outcome. I have Zero fucks to give about any rodent and less for a guy who wants to 'save' animals but refuses to get his paperwork in order.
Posted by: garrett
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Proportionality of punishment is that the guy gets a fine. Not send a swat team. You do not use a sword to spank a baby.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:11 PM (ctrM5)
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Ok, fine, no license. But why did the SWAT team need to destroy the dude's toilet ???
Posted by: runner at November 03, 2024 02:12 PM (V13WU)
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A foreseeable result of his inaction would be seeing him a letter informing him that he was keeping illegal pets, and setting a deadline for him to demonstrate that he had fixed the problem, either by getting rid of the pets or acquiring the appropriate licenses.
Not sending in a SWAT team.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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You said it way better than I.
Not sending in a SWAT team.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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You said it way better than I.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:12 PM (ctrM5)
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>> Ok, fine, no license. But why did the SWAT team need to destroy the dude's toilet ???
I have no idea, there. None.
Maybe they just had Chipotle the day before?
I have no idea, there. None.
Maybe they just had Chipotle the day before?
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:12 PM (z/jjr)
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No. Because a single report is not sufficient to get a Warrant.
Dude had hours of video proof the animals were present and he did not have a License for them in the State.
Posted by: garrett a
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Might want to rethink that one in an age of deep fakes. Rule of law and due process includes the concept of proportionality and 'law and order' types do themselves no favors when you approve of governmental abuse in excess of what most people feel is reasonable.
Draconian is a word with very negative connotations for a reason going all the way back to Draco. If you converse with Ace and his D&D background, it would be lawful evil actions by the state.
Dude had hours of video proof the animals were present and he did not have a License for them in the State.
Posted by: garrett a
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Might want to rethink that one in an age of deep fakes. Rule of law and due process includes the concept of proportionality and 'law and order' types do themselves no favors when you approve of governmental abuse in excess of what most people feel is reasonable.
Draconian is a word with very negative connotations for a reason going all the way back to Draco. If you converse with Ace and his D&D background, it would be lawful evil actions by the state.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:15 PM (ctrM5)
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>>Proportionality of punishment is that the guy gets a fine.
You are forgetting that he had 300+ animals on Property and may or may not have had approval for his Shelter.
Just be open to the possibility this guy was a moron and failed to do his due diligence in all aspects as he was in his Licensing to have the Squirrel and Raccoon.
All 300 of those animals might have been euthanized merely for being in the presence of those animals, by statute.
Sorry. I got no fucks for this guy.
You are forgetting that he had 300+ animals on Property and may or may not have had approval for his Shelter.
Just be open to the possibility this guy was a moron and failed to do his due diligence in all aspects as he was in his Licensing to have the Squirrel and Raccoon.
All 300 of those animals might have been euthanized merely for being in the presence of those animals, by statute.
Sorry. I got no fucks for this guy.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:15 PM (z/jjr)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:16 PM (z/jjr)
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If someone is bit by your dog and reports it, it can and will happen.
Ignore the Laws. That's fine. But don't complain when probable outcome occur.
Posted by: garrett
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No doubt. But licensing would in no way effect the outcome, except in a bureaucratic sense, nothing about the enforcement of the statute would have the slightest
material impact on the situation. Which is to say, it would be a complete waste (if not abuse) of public monies.
See also: Dead squirrel
If someone is bit by your dog and reports it, it can and will happen.
Ignore the Laws. That's fine. But don't complain when probable outcome occur.
Posted by: garrett
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No doubt. But licensing would in no way effect the outcome, except in a bureaucratic sense, nothing about the enforcement of the statute would have the slightest
material impact on the situation. Which is to say, it would be a complete waste (if not abuse) of public monies.
See also: Dead squirrel
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 02:18 PM (XeU6L)
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Draconian is a word with very negative connotations for a reason going all the way back to Draco. If you converse with Ace and his D&D background, it would be lawful evil actions by the state.
Posted by: whig
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Kanela gets elected Cole Porter will be spinning in his grave.
Draconian is a word with very negative connotations for a reason going all the way back to Draco. If you converse with Ace and his D&D background, it would be lawful evil actions by the state.
Posted by: whig
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Kanela gets elected Cole Porter will be spinning in his grave.
Posted by: Braenyard - they ain't kickin the can down the road anymore at November 03, 2024 02:19 PM (ozQLF)
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>>No doubt. But licensing would in no way effect the outcome
Licensing would include proof of Rabies Vaccination. That is one of the requirements.
Licensing would include proof of Rabies Vaccination. That is one of the requirements.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:19 PM (z/jjr)
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It is required here that dogs be licensed. I never bothered. I doubt that one in ten here do. 18 years without a tag.
An obvious pretense for a home raid.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Many of those 'licenses' are in actually a fund raiser for government aka fees.
I am generally a rule of law type but trivial offenses get trivial punishment. Not DEFCON 5 overkill. That breeds contempt of the law, those administering it, and the politicians that push such drivel. That is where the libertarian side comes out---we have too many picayune laws with discretionary enforcement that effectively become anarcho tyranny, wasteful of tax dollars and resources, and results in selective prosecutions of enemies of the state. Show me the man and I will show you the crime is not a philosophy that we should live under.
By those lights, Trump deserved his legal lawfare in NY and other states as did the Jan 6ers for walking in an open door or simply being on the grounds protesting the Steal.
They were punished for lese majeste, not for what they actually did.
An obvious pretense for a home raid.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Many of those 'licenses' are in actually a fund raiser for government aka fees.
I am generally a rule of law type but trivial offenses get trivial punishment. Not DEFCON 5 overkill. That breeds contempt of the law, those administering it, and the politicians that push such drivel. That is where the libertarian side comes out---we have too many picayune laws with discretionary enforcement that effectively become anarcho tyranny, wasteful of tax dollars and resources, and results in selective prosecutions of enemies of the state. Show me the man and I will show you the crime is not a philosophy that we should live under.
By those lights, Trump deserved his legal lawfare in NY and other states as did the Jan 6ers for walking in an open door or simply being on the grounds protesting the Steal.
They were punished for lese majeste, not for what they actually did.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:20 PM (ctrM5)
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>>Which is to say, it would be a complete waste (if not abuse) of public monies.
How much additional Public Monies are involved in transporting, housing and feeding 300+ animals while you quarantine for Rabies and other Pathogens?
How much additional Public Monies are involved in transporting, housing and feeding 300+ animals while you quarantine for Rabies and other Pathogens?
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:20 PM (z/jjr)
410
Again, I get it...Cute Animulz!!
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:21 PM (z/jjr)
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Licensing would include proof of Rabies Vaccination. That is one of the requirements.
Posted by: garrett
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That is a deflection, makes the assumption that the animal was not properly vaccinated. Which she always was.
Posted by: garrett
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That is a deflection, makes the assumption that the animal was not properly vaccinated. Which she always was.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 03, 2024 02:22 PM (XeU6L)
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Donna commented "There are no good guys in this war." Can you explain? The evidence is unequivocal that Russia invaded Ukraine. It's hard to find a war in which the invader isn't considered the bad actor, and the country invaded considered the good guys.
....And indeed, the bidenharris regime has supported the Ukes, to the tune of $300 billion or so. Which suggests our brilliant "rulerz" consider the Ukes the good guys. So... ??
....And indeed, the bidenharris regime has supported the Ukes, to the tune of $300 billion or so. Which suggests our brilliant "rulerz" consider the Ukes the good guys. So... ??
Posted by: sf44 at November 03, 2024 02:23 PM (02b+p)
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>>That is a deflection, makes the assumption that the animal was not properly vaccinated. Which she always was.
The State would not know that in the absence of Licensing.
So. You'd get a Visit or your animal would be impounded until you could provide Proof of Vaccination.
There is no deflection involved. The License is how the State knows that the animal is innoculated.
The State would not know that in the absence of Licensing.
So. You'd get a Visit or your animal would be impounded until you could provide Proof of Vaccination.
There is no deflection involved. The License is how the State knows that the animal is innoculated.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:23 PM (z/jjr)
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LOL, Cackles the Sperm Burping Clown is the favorite nickname I've seen for Harris.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 03, 2024 02:24 PM (R2V/b)
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OK. People get retarded when they see fur. I get it.
Posted by: garrett
I guarantee that you have probably committed felonies if as minor as copying a cd to a mp3 or violating license regulations as to use of software, copying a vhs to a dvd, etc.
Should you be bankrupted by the music industry for it?
That is the ridiculousness of your position--laws have to be enforced proportion to the degree of the offense. Might want to read Beccaria which ignored today influenced our Founding Fathers to a great extent when writing the Constitution and was the bedrock of most of the common law regarding crimes and punishment in the early American republic. Became ignored as one more casualty of slavery's warpage of Constitutional norms.
Posted by: garrett
I guarantee that you have probably committed felonies if as minor as copying a cd to a mp3 or violating license regulations as to use of software, copying a vhs to a dvd, etc.
Should you be bankrupted by the music industry for it?
That is the ridiculousness of your position--laws have to be enforced proportion to the degree of the offense. Might want to read Beccaria which ignored today influenced our Founding Fathers to a great extent when writing the Constitution and was the bedrock of most of the common law regarding crimes and punishment in the early American republic. Became ignored as one more casualty of slavery's warpage of Constitutional norms.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:24 PM (ctrM5)
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The hegemonic American foreign policy establishment, which controls the Euro-NATO establishment, has been co-opted by the Davos/WEF globalist elites who use anarchy, chaos, and war to loot national treasuries. The top tier of all of these outfits are getting rich funneling taxpayer dollars into their pockets.
If they couldn't destabilize Russia so they could loot the entire country of its natural resources, their Plan B was destroy Ukraine while siphoning off foreign military aid through corruption and kickbacks, and will do more when it comes time to "rebuild" Ukraine.
If they couldn't destabilize Russia so they could loot the entire country of its natural resources, their Plan B was destroy Ukraine while siphoning off foreign military aid through corruption and kickbacks, and will do more when it comes time to "rebuild" Ukraine.
Posted by: ruralcounsel at November 03, 2024 02:25 PM (diMhW)
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>>I guarantee that you have probably committed felonies if as minor as copying a cd to a mp3
You forget, I am 29.
You forget, I am 29.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:27 PM (z/jjr)
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That is a deflection, makes the assumption that the animal was not properly vaccinated. Which she always was.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Yep. People in general are not going to get or keep a mad dog. Registration is simply instrumental as a way to avoid that for 'public safety' but a mere requirement that animals be vaccinated is a bit kinder and not requiring them to be killed because of the lack of a strip of paper is absurd.
Public health laws, as we have seen in a time of Covid, often become an abuse of liberty when employed by the states. Walz was infamous for his diktat that people stay indoors and he authorized police shooting paintballs at people standing on their own porches.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Yep. People in general are not going to get or keep a mad dog. Registration is simply instrumental as a way to avoid that for 'public safety' but a mere requirement that animals be vaccinated is a bit kinder and not requiring them to be killed because of the lack of a strip of paper is absurd.
Public health laws, as we have seen in a time of Covid, often become an abuse of liberty when employed by the states. Walz was infamous for his diktat that people stay indoors and he authorized police shooting paintballs at people standing on their own porches.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:28 PM (ctrM5)
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You forget, I am 29.
Posted by: garrett
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Okay, in your case, saving your favorite 78's and Edison wax rolls on new fangled reel to reel tape.
Posted by: garrett
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Okay, in your case, saving your favorite 78's and Edison wax rolls on new fangled reel to reel tape.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:29 PM (ctrM5)
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>>Okay, in your case, saving your favorite 78's and Edison wax rolls on new fangled reel to reel tape.
IF I did that for Commercial Distribution Purposes, I would deserve the punishment. No argument.
IF I did that for Commercial Distribution Purposes, I would deserve the punishment. No argument.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:30 PM (z/jjr)
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Yes, it should be noted too, he's had no shortage of takers. Volunteers are pouring in. If the West's "plan" was to cause Russia to recede as a power, it's had exactly the opposite effect.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:31 PM (9muBF)
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Russia has nukes and that is the only reason they are even remotely a world power. This war has done much more than impoverish both Russia and Ukraine, it has accelerated the speed by which neither will exist in present form. The first eastern European Country who figures out how to consolidate a regional power base and attract people to it - while starting to have babies again - will in the next 50 years control most of this region. Right now Poland and Hungry are leading that race, if it can be achieved at all by anyone.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:31 PM (9muBF)
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Russia has nukes and that is the only reason they are even remotely a world power. This war has done much more than impoverish both Russia and Ukraine, it has accelerated the speed by which neither will exist in present form. The first eastern European Country who figures out how to consolidate a regional power base and attract people to it - while starting to have babies again - will in the next 50 years control most of this region. Right now Poland and Hungry are leading that race, if it can be achieved at all by anyone.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 02:30 PM (uLt48)
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420 >>Okay, in your case, saving your favorite 78's and Edison wax rolls on new fangled reel to reel tape.
IF I did that for Commercial Distribution Purposes, I would deserve the punishment. No argument.
Posted by: garrett
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DMCA makes no distinction between copying for your self (or even for a private showing) and you would have to rely upon the thin reed of fair usage in court as a justification defense.
Usually statute trumps common law but fair use has some constitutional meanings which are vague.
Now, whoever can choose to enforce that law on a purely discretionary basis and even if they end up losing, you get the process as punishment without much recourse.
That is why you get this type of overkill response--because they can do it.
IF I did that for Commercial Distribution Purposes, I would deserve the punishment. No argument.
Posted by: garrett
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DMCA makes no distinction between copying for your self (or even for a private showing) and you would have to rely upon the thin reed of fair usage in court as a justification defense.
Usually statute trumps common law but fair use has some constitutional meanings which are vague.
Now, whoever can choose to enforce that law on a purely discretionary basis and even if they end up losing, you get the process as punishment without much recourse.
That is why you get this type of overkill response--because they can do it.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:34 PM (ctrM5)
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>>DMCA makes no distinction between copying for your self (or even for a private showing)
What does that 'D' stand for, again?
What does that 'D' stand for, again?
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2024 02:36 PM (z/jjr)
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Russia has nukes and that is the only reason they are even remotely a world power. This war has done much more than impoverish both Russia and Ukraine, it has accelerated the speed by which neither will exist in present form. The first eastern European Country who figures out how to consolidate a regional power base and attract people to it - while starting to have babies again - will in the next 50 years control most of this region. Right now Poland and Hungry are leading that race, if it can be achieved at all by anyone.
Posted by: Black JEM
My crystal ball is cracked. I can tell you what happened in similar situations in the past and that would tend to agree with you. However, our elites in the West appear suicidal in there lust for power and that is something we haven't really grappled with--nuclear or biological wars for fun and pleasure of the elites.
Posted by: Black JEM
My crystal ball is cracked. I can tell you what happened in similar situations in the past and that would tend to agree with you. However, our elites in the West appear suicidal in there lust for power and that is something we haven't really grappled with--nuclear or biological wars for fun and pleasure of the elites.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:38 PM (ctrM5)
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I wouldn't say the Russian people are losing. Their economy is booming, they're generally free, and mostly love their country and its leader.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (pdGBc)
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Russia is winning the war, it was always eventually going to end that way - just too many people in Russia vs Ukraine. But their economy is not booming, their currency is not strong, and if Harris wins, and the world falls into recession, as it is looking, the oil prices will drop and Russia's economy will go from meh, to ashes pretty quickly.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 12:43 PM (pdGBc)
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Russia is winning the war, it was always eventually going to end that way - just too many people in Russia vs Ukraine. But their economy is not booming, their currency is not strong, and if Harris wins, and the world falls into recession, as it is looking, the oil prices will drop and Russia's economy will go from meh, to ashes pretty quickly.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 02:38 PM (uLt48)
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I'm worried that there might be a lot of McCain Republicans voting for Kamala.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
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There are no GOP Kamala voters more than crossovers ever exist. The McCain machine was all about funneling voters the way they wanted. They didn't actually have the voters. I expect the EV breaks on crossovers to be pretty standard.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 03, 2024 01:16 PM (NpAcC)
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There are no GOP Kamala voters more than crossovers ever exist. The McCain machine was all about funneling voters the way they wanted. They didn't actually have the voters. I expect the EV breaks on crossovers to be pretty standard.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 02:42 PM (uLt48)
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What does that 'D' stand for, again?
Posted by: garrett
Digital but even before then, it was RIAA's position and that of the MPAA that owning a physical copy of the work did not give you ownership of that underlying work (only the physical media). So no copying. Under common law, federal courts were all over the place over what was fair use and whether copying counted including vhs copying of content on TV for viewing later.
Was not enforced criminally because of potential for backfire politically due to the numbers of people that were happily ignoring the law--not for legal reasons.
That is what led to the draconian punishments of the DMCA and the move by industry to digital media. It has a clearly defined statutory law to punish you rather than the vaguer position of the law pre DMCA.
Posted by: garrett
Digital but even before then, it was RIAA's position and that of the MPAA that owning a physical copy of the work did not give you ownership of that underlying work (only the physical media). So no copying. Under common law, federal courts were all over the place over what was fair use and whether copying counted including vhs copying of content on TV for viewing later.
Was not enforced criminally because of potential for backfire politically due to the numbers of people that were happily ignoring the law--not for legal reasons.
That is what led to the draconian punishments of the DMCA and the move by industry to digital media. It has a clearly defined statutory law to punish you rather than the vaguer position of the law pre DMCA.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:44 PM (ctrM5)
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Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (uxCna)
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Absolutely true. She is probably the reason Russia will win the war besides the county size difference. Very creative.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 03, 2024 12:52 PM (uxCna)
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Absolutely true. She is probably the reason Russia will win the war besides the county size difference. Very creative.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 02:46 PM (uLt48)
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Russia is winning the war, it was always eventually going to end that way - just too many people in Russia vs Ukraine. But their economy is not booming, their currency is not strong, and if Harris wins, and the world falls into recession, as it is looking, the oil prices will drop and Russia's economy will go from meh, to ashes pretty quickly.
Posted by: Black JEM
Fair statement. What I wonder about is the long term effect of having a bunch of hardened warriors that are not ethnic Russians dispersed back into the hinterland regions of Russia. Russia has made an effort to avoid recruiting ethnic Russians from the heart of their Leningrad, Moscow, etc urban areas. They have pushed huge quotas on places like Chechinya. Long term it may be like the US funding the mujadeen to fight in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Black JEM
Fair statement. What I wonder about is the long term effect of having a bunch of hardened warriors that are not ethnic Russians dispersed back into the hinterland regions of Russia. Russia has made an effort to avoid recruiting ethnic Russians from the heart of their Leningrad, Moscow, etc urban areas. They have pushed huge quotas on places like Chechinya. Long term it may be like the US funding the mujadeen to fight in Afghanistan.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:49 PM (ctrM5)
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412 It's hard to find a war in which the invader isn't considered the bad actor, and the country invaded considered the good guys.
Posted by: sf44 at November 03, 2024 02:23 PM (02b+p)
seriously dude? US invaded like, what, 20 countries? and most of them weren't even close to the borders.
Posted by: sf44 at November 03, 2024 02:23 PM (02b+p)
seriously dude? US invaded like, what, 20 countries? and most of them weren't even close to the borders.
Posted by: juicer at November 03, 2024 02:54 PM (CFNof)
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428 Russia is blessed with having Elvira Nabiullina, who is far and away the best central banker on Earth at the moment.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Their version of Hjalmar Schacht. Did not prevent Germany from going into Depression when the rest of the world did. You can rob Peter to pay Paul for awhile but inevitably an economy reverts back to its basic line. Both the ruble and the price of oil are declining to below what is necessary to finance the Russian state normally, let alone during a time of war.
Modern wars, by and large do not benefit the economy anymore than Keyne's digging a ditch and filling it in does. War is, in fact, the ultimate expression of Keynesian economics but has a lot of undesirable effects namely on investment (and no, weapon systems are not investments anymore than Green Nude Eel social spending was).
You never see what the money blown on war could have been spent on and how much society loses economically by wars through loss of capital and skilled manpower, let alone socially.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Their version of Hjalmar Schacht. Did not prevent Germany from going into Depression when the rest of the world did. You can rob Peter to pay Paul for awhile but inevitably an economy reverts back to its basic line. Both the ruble and the price of oil are declining to below what is necessary to finance the Russian state normally, let alone during a time of war.
Modern wars, by and large do not benefit the economy anymore than Keyne's digging a ditch and filling it in does. War is, in fact, the ultimate expression of Keynesian economics but has a lot of undesirable effects namely on investment (and no, weapon systems are not investments anymore than Green Nude Eel social spending was).
You never see what the money blown on war could have been spent on and how much society loses economically by wars through loss of capital and skilled manpower, let alone socially.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:55 PM (ctrM5)
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The world is changing, folks. You don't have to like it, but it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (sDrVA)
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Yes it is, but not in the way you imagine. There is a retreat you might call it into nationalistic imperative worldview. What is evolving is an American sector, and the rest of the world sector. The American sector will look alot like what it does now, except a bit more expensive than before. Much better than the rest of the world. Trump win will just make it more obvious. Russia-Ukraine will cease to exist as they have been known 50 years from now - they are both in demographic collapse and the war will just accelerate that collapse. They are probably beyond the ability to repopulate with the number of young men they have left.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 03, 2024 01:10 PM (sDrVA)
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Yes it is, but not in the way you imagine. There is a retreat you might call it into nationalistic imperative worldview. What is evolving is an American sector, and the rest of the world sector. The American sector will look alot like what it does now, except a bit more expensive than before. Much better than the rest of the world. Trump win will just make it more obvious. Russia-Ukraine will cease to exist as they have been known 50 years from now - they are both in demographic collapse and the war will just accelerate that collapse. They are probably beyond the ability to repopulate with the number of young men they have left.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 03:23 PM (uLt48)
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Remember, if Kamala Harris wins this election, it will be because of the women. Even if your wife or girlfriend votes for Trump, she knows women who voted for the Vice-President Harris and is most likely afraid to tell her friends that they are making the worst mistakes of their lives, but also their children's and grandchildren's lives. Kamala Harris will resign our next generations to poverty and squalor.
Posted by: wferrin at November 03, 2024 03:32 PM (lxCX/)
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The guy literally lived on a farm...with a squirrel as a pet. This needs a SWAT raid?
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 03, 2024 03:38 PM (XMwZJ)
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Has all this been about softening up Russia so the PRC could steal the mineral wealth of Siberia with less resistance ... ?
Posted by: SouthCentralPA at November 03, 2024 03:43 PM (muRIc)
Posted by: Paul at November 03, 2024 04:11 PM (qvtMT)
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Fair statement. What I wonder about is the long term effect of having a bunch of hardened warriors that are not ethnic Russians dispersed back into the hinterland regions of Russia. Russia has made an effort to avoid recruiting ethnic Russians from the heart of their Leningrad, Moscow, etc urban areas. They have pushed huge quotas on places like Chechinya. Long term it may be like the US funding the mujadeen to fight in Afghanistan.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:49 PM (ctrM5)
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Fair as well. Putin was forced by necessity to get the numbers he needed to maintain the force to secure the gains in SE Ukraine, otherwise the western military aid would have eventually turned the tide. Russia's strength was always numbers, I just think Putin didn't think he would have to tap in that deep. A post war Russia will be changed by this in just the manner you suggest. Forecasting what that future becomes is impossible.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 02:49 PM (ctrM5)
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Fair as well. Putin was forced by necessity to get the numbers he needed to maintain the force to secure the gains in SE Ukraine, otherwise the western military aid would have eventually turned the tide. Russia's strength was always numbers, I just think Putin didn't think he would have to tap in that deep. A post war Russia will be changed by this in just the manner you suggest. Forecasting what that future becomes is impossible.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 03, 2024 04:39 PM (uLt48)
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The Lord works in mysterious ways beyond our ken. But the Lord does have a sense of humor in the champions that he picks.
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ctrM5)
Squirrel!
Posted by: whig at November 03, 2024 01:45 PM (ctrM5)
Squirrel!
Posted by: ... at November 03, 2024 05:09 PM (lX8VI)
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IMPO, the leas than stellar performance of US weapon systems is sympthomatic of the incestuous relationship between these contractors and the services' officers and staff. A massive wave of discharges and arrests should be in order
Posted by: Augusto Perez at November 03, 2024 06:50 PM (KrNgh)
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You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, "There is a price we will not pay." "There is a point beyond which they must not advance." And this - this is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater's "peace through strength." Winston Churchill said, "The destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we're spirits - not animals." And he said, "There's something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."
Posted by: Regan at November 03, 2024 09:01 PM (TuyP3)
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One of my Older Brothers used to work for Raytheon they make Amma Microwave's
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