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THE MORNING RANT: Ford to Suspend Production of its Slow-Selling F150 Conflagration Lightning Electric Pickup Truck
Ford Motor plans to halt production of its all-electric F-150 Lightning from mid-November until early next year to address bloated inventories and narrow losses on the pickup trucks. “We continue to adjust production for an optimal mix of sales growth and profitability,” Ford said in an emailed statement.I know exactly how Ford can align production of its E-dsel pickup truck with consumer demand in a way to maximize profitability. Real simple – it just needs to adjust production of the F150
Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year. The production slowdown represents a fall from grace for the F-150 Lightning. Ford executives such as CEO Jim Farley once touted the vehicle as having the same importance as the Model T, but the company has moved to slashing planned output of the pickup in half to begin this year.Ford’s EV losses are not sustainable. I’ll have plenty more to say about its e-problems, but I did want to get a quick post up about this breaking news, which is another important milestone in the denouement of the corporate EV social contagion. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 01, 2024 11:00 AM (Wnv9h)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:00 AM (1Yy3c)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 01, 2024 11:01 AM (Wnv9h)
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Fist!
Posted by: michelle fields at November 01, 2024 11:01 AM (hovnC)
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Yeah, but it was the fastest growing truck in America 5 years ago!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: michelle fields at November 01, 2024 11:01 AM (hovnC)
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Denver International Airport averages 37 car thefts per day.
What is the most sought-after vehicle by these thieves?
Ford F-150s, the non-EV kind.
How does Ford manage to botch one of the most popular vehicles so dang badly?!
What is the most sought-after vehicle by these thieves?
Ford F-150s, the non-EV kind.
How does Ford manage to botch one of the most popular vehicles so dang badly?!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (scDBq)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (7XQ3+)
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By the way, VW is having this same issue and trying to close plants in DE, which takes quite the effort.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (pRpzT)
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They say production is "temporarily suspended". There's a site of an old Luby's Cafeteria near me; the large sign on the property read "temporarily closed" for a year or two after the building had been torn down and turned into a dirt lot. A big wind in the night finally took the sign away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (wyMQY)
Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (53oGX)
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Ford's offering to install, for free, a "standard" EV charging station in your home/garage if you'd please buy one of their battery powered vehicles.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
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Willowed, so pasted here.
I'd think that the new jobs report, 12,000, that is TWELVE THOUSAND, against an estimate of 100,000 new jobs in the month, would be damning news for Harris.
Let's see if Trump and Vance and every R rep and senator running can trumpet this out loud enough to get through the suffocating pillow the media will use to spike it.
That figure is less than four new jobs PER COUNTY all across the U.S.
I'd think that the new jobs report, 12,000, that is TWELVE THOUSAND, against an estimate of 100,000 new jobs in the month, would be damning news for Harris.
Let's see if Trump and Vance and every R rep and senator running can trumpet this out loud enough to get through the suffocating pillow the media will use to spike it.
That figure is less than four new jobs PER COUNTY all across the U.S.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:03 AM (ZtgZZ)
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FROD
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 01, 2024 11:03 AM (ewjUl)
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Ford’s EV losses are not sustainable.
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But are they plant based?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 01, 2024
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Whenever I see the word "sustainable," I immediately envison twenty-dollar bills flying out the window.
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But are they plant based?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 01, 2024
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Whenever I see the word "sustainable," I immediately envison twenty-dollar bills flying out the window.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (J2vNu)
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From the latest jobs report, manufacturing lost 46,000 last month.
Democrats support middle class jobs!
Democrats support middle class jobs!
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (i7Q7S)
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These Ford F-150's are loaded up onto car transport trucks (the kind used to deliver cars to dealerships) and sent across our Southern border, pronto!
There is a huuuuuge demand for these trucks not just here in America, but outside of the US.
How do they not get it????
There is a huuuuuge demand for these trucks not just here in America, but outside of the US.
How do they not get it????
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (scDBq)
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Ford Motor plans to halt production of its all-electric F-150 Lightning from mid-November until early next year to address bloated inventories and narrow losses on the pickup trucks.
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They aren't alone. Car companies worldwide have more or less split into three groups in terms of where they've been investing and what they've been targeting over the past decade:
1. EVs as such
2. Red China, which a big dose of EV for China-local reasons
3. Diversified product lines with emphasis in gas/diesel or hybrid, EV adjunct
Ford and VAG are in group one. GM is in group 2. Toyota and to a lesser degree Hyundai/Kia is in group 3.
Group 3 is the winner. A lot of people who were making fun of Toyota 5-10 years ago are starting to be pretty quiet. Toyota is going to win this round of auto industry realignment.
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They aren't alone. Car companies worldwide have more or less split into three groups in terms of where they've been investing and what they've been targeting over the past decade:
1. EVs as such
2. Red China, which a big dose of EV for China-local reasons
3. Diversified product lines with emphasis in gas/diesel or hybrid, EV adjunct
Ford and VAG are in group one. GM is in group 2. Toyota and to a lesser degree Hyundai/Kia is in group 3.
Group 3 is the winner. A lot of people who were making fun of Toyota 5-10 years ago are starting to be pretty quiet. Toyota is going to win this round of auto industry realignment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (D6PGr)
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And if you buy one, they are also offering a free pallet of fire extinguishers. They'll even load it in the back of your new E150 for you!
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (ewjUl)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (U1w17)
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Goofy EV's (and the spelling of "Lightening") aside, Christmastime layoffs are the stuff of auto news legend. Jeep laid off all through the holidays going back to the Kaiser days, and it made great copy for those Silent Night/Six O'Clock News commentaries the stuck-out-lower-lip editorialists used to love. They were actually working the millwrights double shifts to update the models with new zippers and cup holders, but John Q never heard that.
Obviously Ford is just waiting for the next tranche of green money, or the outcome of the election, whichever comes first.
Obviously Ford is just waiting for the next tranche of green money, or the outcome of the election, whichever comes first.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (zdLoL)
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I guess the corporate fleets have had enough. Only a corporate buyer would go for this thing.
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (ZZOOb)
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Electric vehicles have always been just novelties. AND they always will be.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (g8Ew8)
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I do not recommend the Ford Theatre either.
Posted by: zombie abraham lincoln at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (hovnC)
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It's like Dunkin' Donuts deciding that, no, they're not going to make chocolate frosted donuts anymore. Instead, they'll serve plant-based, vegan, carab-frosted fauxnuts and it'll be great!!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (scDBq)
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"Ford’s EV losses are not sustainable."
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Ford, and a while lot of Michigan voters, believe market forces are only an early indicator of when the next round of subsidies will be helicoptered in.
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Ford, and a while lot of Michigan voters, believe market forces are only an early indicator of when the next round of subsidies will be helicoptered in.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (8AONa)
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24 Electric vehicles have always been just novelties. AND they always will be.
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Imma waiting for my nuclear car what flies.
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Imma waiting for my nuclear car what flies.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (AdHga)
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Found On Road, Dead.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 1
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Fix Or Repair Daily
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 1
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Fix Or Repair Daily
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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But Trump said Liz Cheney should face a firing squad!!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (2UnvF)
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Denver International Airport averages 37 car thefts per day.——
That’s ridiculous if accurate.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (D6PGr)
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From what I hear from folks I know who still live there, the operation is huge and gets way bigger when you consider off-premise parking.
Apparently, the car thief rings are proper, big enterprises now. These aren't kids boosting cars anymore. They bring in car haulers and just steal them en masse from multiple lots. Inside men at the gate to wave the haulers through, teams to hit multiple cars quickly, etc.
Don't know if it's true - I thankfully don't live there anymore - but it's what I hear.
That’s ridiculous if accurate.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (D6PGr)
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From what I hear from folks I know who still live there, the operation is huge and gets way bigger when you consider off-premise parking.
Apparently, the car thief rings are proper, big enterprises now. These aren't kids boosting cars anymore. They bring in car haulers and just steal them en masse from multiple lots. Inside men at the gate to wave the haulers through, teams to hit multiple cars quickly, etc.
Don't know if it's true - I thankfully don't live there anymore - but it's what I hear.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
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The only person on my street with a Harris/Walz sign also has three EVs in their driveway.
Sometimes you can't fix stupid.
Sometimes you can't fix stupid.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (3ImbR)
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28 Imma waiting for my nuclear car what flies.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (AdHga)
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In states that are predominantly powered by nuclear, you could say electric cars are nuclear.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (AdHga)
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In states that are predominantly powered by nuclear, you could say electric cars are nuclear.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)
Toyota ruined the Tacoma with the new turbo 4 cy 8 speed. I don’t know if they have fixed the problems for 2025.
Toyota ruined the Tacoma with the new turbo 4 cy 8 speed. I don’t know if they have fixed the problems for 2025.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (D6PGr)
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"Ford’s EV losses are not sustainable."
Oh but they are. Ford is almost deliberately setting piles of money on fire at this point. What better way to angle for a yuge taxpayer bailout? That is where this is all heading. I'm surprised Kumswala hasn't already announced a big bailout for Detroit.
I went to a showing for a new HPEV yesterday. You might be shocked to learn not one word was said about gas efficiency or emissions or anything even remotely green. It was more about how all this tech will get you more girls. Well, not really. But I'm not joking about not a single word being said about green bullshit.
Oh but they are. Ford is almost deliberately setting piles of money on fire at this point. What better way to angle for a yuge taxpayer bailout? That is where this is all heading. I'm surprised Kumswala hasn't already announced a big bailout for Detroit.
I went to a showing for a new HPEV yesterday. You might be shocked to learn not one word was said about gas efficiency or emissions or anything even remotely green. It was more about how all this tech will get you more girls. Well, not really. But I'm not joking about not a single word being said about green bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
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I'd like someone who knows corporate book keeping to analyze Ford's multi-billion dollar boondoggles in EV battery production plants in KY and TN. And how those massive failures won't lead to bankruptcy.
Because other than F-150's and a handful of SUV's, what, exactly does Ford have to offer? Presuming the Mustang EV supplants the ICE Mustang.
Because other than F-150's and a handful of SUV's, what, exactly does Ford have to offer? Presuming the Mustang EV supplants the ICE Mustang.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)
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Ford Motor plans to halt production of its all-electric F-150 Lightning from mid-November until early next year to address bloated inventories and narrow losses on the pickup trucks.
[ ... ]
Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year.
Clearly someone's idea of "narrow" and mine are not the same.
[ ... ]
Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year.
Clearly someone's idea of "narrow" and mine are not the same.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (/y8xj)
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Bloodbath....did someone say "bloodbath"?
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (Yj6Os)
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Apparently, the car thief rings are proper, big enterprises now. These aren't kids boosting cars anymore. They bring in car haulers and just steal them en masse from multiple lots. Inside men at the gate to wave the haulers through, teams to hit multiple cars quickly, etc.
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So, Union Labor, rite?
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So, Union Labor, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (AdHga)
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I'm watching a concert of some orchestra playing the Lord Of The Rings score and some of the violinists are smoking hot.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)
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26 It's like Dunkin' Donuts deciding that, no, they're not going to make chocolate frosted donuts anymore. Instead, they'll serve plant-based, vegan, carab-frosted fauxnuts and it'll be great!!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (scDBq)
Don't scare me like that!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:05 AM (scDBq)
Don't scare me like that!
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (eb5mD)
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The news about VW was from a couple days ago, and it was that they were cutting 10,000 jobs.
VW has Porsche, etc., etc., as one brand across a big wide spectrum of brands, and a total workforce for all of 300,000.
Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
I had a thought along that line when in a Hyundai showroom last week, looking at the beautiful lines, colors, finish, and details of their EV coupe, saying I'd buy one if it was a gas guzzler.
VW has Porsche, etc., etc., as one brand across a big wide spectrum of brands, and a total workforce for all of 300,000.
Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
I had a thought along that line when in a Hyundai showroom last week, looking at the beautiful lines, colors, finish, and details of their EV coupe, saying I'd buy one if it was a gas guzzler.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (ZtgZZ)
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Found On Road, Dead.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 1
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Fix Or Repair Daily
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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F'd-Over Running Device.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 1
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Fix Or Repair Daily
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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F'd-Over Running Device.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (U1w17)
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I know it's petty and small of me, but I can't help hoping for Ford's temporary demise. Not only is the company a woke nightmare, but the workers are fat, lazy, union ticks who have helped themselves to tens of billions of dollars of my and our money.
Mitt Romney was occasionally correct. Let Ford and GM go bankrupt, and start again with realistic contracts, or better yet, move to the south and destroy the UAW. If this is not done, the company will be a zombie company, forever on the government teat.
Mitt Romney was occasionally correct. Let Ford and GM go bankrupt, and start again with realistic contracts, or better yet, move to the south and destroy the UAW. If this is not done, the company will be a zombie company, forever on the government teat.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (xCA6C)
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I don't trust a CEO who doesn't use his own product. It was posted earlier that this guy is driving some Chinese EV knock-off instead of a vehicle HIS OWN COMPANY MAKES.
That doesn't inspire confidence among the rank-and-file or the shareholders.
That doesn't inspire confidence among the rank-and-file or the shareholders.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (7fElN)
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THE MORNING RANT: Ford to Suspend Production of its Slow-Selling F150 Conflagration Lightning Electric Pickup Truck
No! That's not true! That's impossible! Nooooooo!
No! That's not true! That's impossible! Nooooooo!
Posted by: not Joe Xiden at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (yOPBE)
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Kamala will straighten it out!
Rapper Cardi B To Endorse Kamala at Wisconsin Rally After Saying Biden “Really F***ed” Up The Country
Rapper Cardi B To Endorse Kamala at Wisconsin Rally After Saying Biden “Really F***ed” Up The Country
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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Cloward-Piven aint just for Government entities. Failing businesses tend to not be good for Gov. stability.
The CEO's are bought.
The CEO's are bought.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 01, 2024 11:09 AM (Z8Yh2)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
I believe it can be done but only temporary. If they are still in operation then the airport and law enforcement aren’t nowhere near doing their job.
I believe it can be done but only temporary. If they are still in operation then the airport and law enforcement aren’t nowhere near doing their job.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:09 AM (D6PGr)
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Bloodbath....did someone say "bloodbath"?
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (Yj6Os)
Wait your turn, asshole.
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (Yj6Os)
Wait your turn, asshole.
Posted by: Elizabeth Bathory at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (1Yy3c)
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I believe it can be done but only temporary. If they are still in operation then the airport and law enforcement aren’t nowhere near doing their job.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:09 AM (D6PGr)
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Why should anyone expect the cops to do their ostensible jobs? Criminal gangs are preferred political populations.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:09 AM (D6PGr)
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Why should anyone expect the cops to do their ostensible jobs? Criminal gangs are preferred political populations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (HnUIn)
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Posted by: not Joe Xiden at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (yOPBE)
Wasn't Montec another EV cheerleader?
Wasn't Montec another EV cheerleader?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
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Ford will do better once The Ho gets elected and starts making the 'Big Decisions'* for them.
*History of the World
*History of the World
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (5KeIv)
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This is delicious.
Tesla, as Buck has pointed out, is a boutique, virtue signaling EV for well-off folks with two other cars in their garages.
What the hell is an EV pickup truck? Whose virtue is signaled?
Tesla, as Buck has pointed out, is a boutique, virtue signaling EV for well-off folks with two other cars in their garages.
What the hell is an EV pickup truck? Whose virtue is signaled?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (d9fT1)
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I have to admit the modern Ford Bronco is a ruggedly handsome vehicle. It really looks like the sort of vehicle you could take off-road. Is it actually capable of that?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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It's about time they made a movie with a stronk girl boss!
Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
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Disclose.tv @disclosetv 26 Sep 2023
JUST IN - VW temporarily curbs production of electric vehicles in Zwickau and Dresden due to weakening demand — n-tv
Disclose.tv @disclosetv Sep 2
JUST IN - Car manufacturer VW has to cut costs: Job guarantee canceled, compulsory redundancies and plant closures possible — Focus
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JUST IN - Germany's largest car manufacturer Volkswagen is reportedly planning to cut up to 30,000 jobs — Manager-Magazin
Disclose.tv @disclosetv Oct 28
JUST IN - Germany's decline: Volkswagen wants to close at least three plants in the country and cut tens of thousands of jobs.
MORE - In addition, Volkswagen seeks a 10% reduction in monthly pay for all remaining employees, two zero rounds in 2025 and 2026, and the end of allowances and bonuses.
JUST IN - VW temporarily curbs production of electric vehicles in Zwickau and Dresden due to weakening demand — n-tv
Disclose.tv @disclosetv Sep 2
JUST IN - Car manufacturer VW has to cut costs: Job guarantee canceled, compulsory redundancies and plant closures possible — Focus
Disclose.tv @disclosetv Sep 19
JUST IN - Germany's largest car manufacturer Volkswagen is reportedly planning to cut up to 30,000 jobs — Manager-Magazin
Disclose.tv @disclosetv Oct 28
JUST IN - Germany's decline: Volkswagen wants to close at least three plants in the country and cut tens of thousands of jobs.
MORE - In addition, Volkswagen seeks a 10% reduction in monthly pay for all remaining employees, two zero rounds in 2025 and 2026, and the end of allowances and bonuses.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (hovnC)
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Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
they are MASSIVE lemons
just fyi I know people with this car and it's basically never not had problems
I would honestly stay away from anything VW makes. VW is ALSO on a death spiral, and well deserved
they are MASSIVE lemons
just fyi I know people with this car and it's basically never not had problems
I would honestly stay away from anything VW makes. VW is ALSO on a death spiral, and well deserved
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (s3qiR)
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Meanwhile....BMW has nearly completed a battery plant about a mile from my house...wondering what it will morph into.
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (Yj6Os)
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Instead, they'll serve plant-based, vegan, carab-frosted fauxnuts and it'll be great!!
I definitely prefer plant-based donuts with a possible exception for crumbled bacon toppings.
I definitely prefer plant-based donuts with a possible exception for crumbled bacon toppings.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (/y8xj)
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54 This is delicious.
Tesla, as Buck has pointed out, is a boutique, virtue signaling EV for well-off folks with two other cars in their garages.
What the hell is an EV pickup truck? Whose virtue is signaled?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (d9fT1)
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Same people who need to move a couch?
Tesla, as Buck has pointed out, is a boutique, virtue signaling EV for well-off folks with two other cars in their garages.
What the hell is an EV pickup truck? Whose virtue is signaled?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (d9fT1)
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Same people who need to move a couch?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
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Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
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Someone should tell the Porsche people tgat they already have one. It's called the Panamera.
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Someone should tell the Porsche people tgat they already have one. It's called the Panamera.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (dDmld)
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Back from my Christian Nationalist meeting, where we confound the listeners by speaking in Latin.
Back from my Christian Nationalist meeting, where we confound the listeners by speaking in Latin.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (EsZUh)
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Last decent CEO Ford had appears to have been Alan Mulally (2006-14). He's the one that shed debt, etc. in the runup to the real-estate crash. Remember Ford was the only one of the Big Three that didn't take the bailout.
Mulally wasn't perfect either; he presided over the transmission debacle of the 'teens, but he was better than what followed. Shame what happened to 'em since.
Mulally wasn't perfect either; he presided over the transmission debacle of the 'teens, but he was better than what followed. Shame what happened to 'em since.
Posted by: Rowsdower & Batman have had it up to HERE with these damn juggalos & still think Ray Epps is a fed a at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (tzYsy)
Posted by: Simon and Garfunkel at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (yOPBE)
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Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
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59 Meanwhile....BMW has nearly completed a battery plant about a mile from my house...wondering what it will morph into.
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A really big Hooters?
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A really big Hooters?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (AdHga)
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13. Some former fed reserve person on CNBC this morning pfffttt away the jobs report, saying she knew the hurricane would cause irregularities in the report. No biggie.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (Lz7DO)
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We lived in Denver for a while and experienced those remote parking lots that are miles from the terminal complex.
Going in to park, you feel like you're in a Lonesome Dove scene way out on the high plains grasslands, not a tree in sight, the front range on the western horizon, you're all alone, and when you see the bus coming to enter the lot, it is just a speck on the horizon.
Car thievery must be easy there.
Going in to park, you feel like you're in a Lonesome Dove scene way out on the high plains grasslands, not a tree in sight, the front range on the western horizon, you're all alone, and when you see the bus coming to enter the lot, it is just a speck on the horizon.
Car thievery must be easy there.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (ZtgZZ)
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66 Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
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Female lead from Baby Driver and Yesterday.
Really cute British girl.
Her dad character will seemingly be played by Pierce Brosnan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
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Female lead from Baby Driver and Yesterday.
Really cute British girl.
Her dad character will seemingly be played by Pierce Brosnan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm watching a concert of some orchestra playing the Lord Of The Rings score and some of the violinists are smoking hot.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024
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There are loads of YooToob videos with female musicians playing classical pieces, piano or violin, etc., and they are beautiful as well as talented.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024
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There are loads of YooToob videos with female musicians playing classical pieces, piano or violin, etc., and they are beautiful as well as talented.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (J2vNu)
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>>So, Union Labor, rite?
Gangs/cartels from down South. Here's one guy that got caught: https://tinyurl.com/4jsj29mv
In October 2023, Nava-Delgado and twelve other people involved in the operation were indicted on 121 counts, including racketeering, participating in a criminal enterprise, theft, conspiracy, burglary, aggravated motor vehicle theft, vehicular alluding, owning or operating a chop shop, and possession of a dangerous weapon.
David Nava-Delgado.
17th Judicial District Attorney’s Office
Authorities connected the group to over fifty vehicle thefts and more than thirty burglaries or attempted burglaries. The stolen vehicles ranged from a $63,000 Bentley Continental to an $8,400 Jeep Wrangler, according to the indictment, though the group favored Ford F-150 trucks — Colorado's most stolen vehicle.
Gangs/cartels from down South. Here's one guy that got caught: https://tinyurl.com/4jsj29mv
In October 2023, Nava-Delgado and twelve other people involved in the operation were indicted on 121 counts, including racketeering, participating in a criminal enterprise, theft, conspiracy, burglary, aggravated motor vehicle theft, vehicular alluding, owning or operating a chop shop, and possession of a dangerous weapon.
David Nava-Delgado.
17th Judicial District Attorney’s Office
Authorities connected the group to over fifty vehicle thefts and more than thirty burglaries or attempted burglaries. The stolen vehicles ranged from a $63,000 Bentley Continental to an $8,400 Jeep Wrangler, according to the indictment, though the group favored Ford F-150 trucks — Colorado's most stolen vehicle.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (scDBq)
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55 I have to admit the modern Ford Bronco is a ruggedly handsome vehicle. It really looks like the sort of vehicle you could take off-road. Is it actually capable of that?
so I am looking to replace my aging Disco (I know, also unreliable usually but mine has been GREAT with two things only and they were fixed under warranty and just related to the stupid multimedia dash)
I'm fairly certain to get a wrangler but in the process tried the new Bronco bc I'm a girl and it's cute right?
eh
I'd take my old Disco with 200k on her off roading way before the Bronco. it's just a car. looks cute tho!
so I am looking to replace my aging Disco (I know, also unreliable usually but mine has been GREAT with two things only and they were fixed under warranty and just related to the stupid multimedia dash)
I'm fairly certain to get a wrangler but in the process tried the new Bronco bc I'm a girl and it's cute right?
eh
I'd take my old Disco with 200k on her off roading way before the Bronco. it's just a car. looks cute tho!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (s3qiR)
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The news about VW was from a couple days ago, and it was that they were cutting 10,000 jobs.
VW has Porsche, etc., etc., as one brand across a big wide spectrum of brands, and a total workforce for all of 300,000.
Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
I had a thought along that line when in a Hyundai showroom last week, looking at the beautiful lines, colors, finish, and details of their EV coupe, saying I'd buy one if it was a gas guzzler.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (ZtgZZ)
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Porsche is calling their new dump-the-EV strategy some bullshit like they are "EV Hybrids" ... which is basically just a regular hybrid, but they want to cling to the "EV" moniker like it's some witchcraft talisman.
VW has Porsche, etc., etc., as one brand across a big wide spectrum of brands, and a total workforce for all of 300,000.
Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
I had a thought along that line when in a Hyundai showroom last week, looking at the beautiful lines, colors, finish, and details of their EV coupe, saying I'd buy one if it was a gas guzzler.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:08 AM (ZtgZZ)
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Porsche is calling their new dump-the-EV strategy some bullshit like they are "EV Hybrids" ... which is basically just a regular hybrid, but they want to cling to the "EV" moniker like it's some witchcraft talisman.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (iFTx/)
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Back from my Christian Nationalist meeting, where we confound the listeners by speaking in Latin.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Classical Latin, Vulgar Latin, or Church Latin?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Classical Latin, Vulgar Latin, or Church Latin?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)
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about time they made a movie with a stronk girl boss!
Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
I watched Furiosa last night . It wasn’t the typical girl power movie I thought it would be . I liked it more than Fury Road which was typical to me.
Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
I watched Furiosa last night . It wasn’t the typical girl power movie I thought it would be . I liked it more than Fury Road which was typical to me.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (D6PGr)
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Love will find a way.
“Tiger King” Star Joe Exotic Gets Engaged to Fellow Inmate in Prison – “Wish I Would Have Met Him Long Ago”
“Tiger King” Star Joe Exotic Gets Engaged to Fellow Inmate in Prison – “Wish I Would Have Met Him Long Ago”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
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For those focused on polling:
From Atlas polls:
Harris leads in only one of the 7 decisive swing states for the Electoral College outcome: Wisconsin. Trump's advantage over his opponent is most significant in states such as AZ, NV and NC.
According to them, AZ and NC are completely off the board for Harris, and Trump is just about above the MOE in NV and GA.
From Atlas polls:
Harris leads in only one of the 7 decisive swing states for the Electoral College outcome: Wisconsin. Trump's advantage over his opponent is most significant in states such as AZ, NV and NC.
According to them, AZ and NC are completely off the board for Harris, and Trump is just about above the MOE in NV and GA.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: kaiser wilhelm at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (sGtp+)
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though the group favored Ford F-150 trucks — Colorado's most stolen vehicle.
I would imagine this is due to the weather?
here it's always Nissans
I would imagine this is due to the weather?
here it's always Nissans
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (s3qiR)
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Nos perituri mortem salutamus
Posted by: SMOD at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RHGPo)
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Does an E-pickup come with a free E-cig?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (MBS2I)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (5GHxz)
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Also in the news from a few days ago, Porsche makes an EV called the Taycan with is arguably the sexiest looking thing they make, and they announced they will do a gas version of the design.
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Taycan do it too
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Taycan do it too
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu)
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55 I have to admit the modern Ford Bronco is a ruggedly handsome vehicle. It really looks like the sort of vehicle you could take off-road. Is it actually capable of that?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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The Bronco Sport is just a re-skinned Ford Escape. It's a unibody vehicle with no off-road chops at all.
The "real" Broncos have gotten high praise for their off-road prowess. I'm waiting for the OJ Signature version.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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The Bronco Sport is just a re-skinned Ford Escape. It's a unibody vehicle with no off-road chops at all.
The "real" Broncos have gotten high praise for their off-road prowess. I'm waiting for the OJ Signature version.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (dDmld)
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“Tiger King” Star Joe Exotic Gets Engaged to Fellow Inmate in Prison – “Wish I Would Have Met Him Long Ago”
aw! honestly that's nice. good for Joe!
aw! honestly that's nice. good for Joe!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (s3qiR)
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I guess Alexandra Daddario just had another kid.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (v6JzV)
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76 I watched Furiosa last night . It wasn’t the typical girl power movie I thought it would be . I liked it more than Fury Road which was typical to me.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (D6PGr)
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Furiosa came out during the tail end of the slide in popularity of the girlboss action movie.
That it's not actually a girlboss action movie doesn't matter. There's no way to sell that movie without the target audience going, "Well, it's another girlboss action movie from a franchise that's supposed to star a man."
However, the good news is that it seems that the Australian government actually paid for most of the film, so it's possible that we could still get another Mad Max movie.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (D6PGr)
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Furiosa came out during the tail end of the slide in popularity of the girlboss action movie.
That it's not actually a girlboss action movie doesn't matter. There's no way to sell that movie without the target audience going, "Well, it's another girlboss action movie from a franchise that's supposed to star a man."
However, the good news is that it seems that the Australian government actually paid for most of the film, so it's possible that we could still get another Mad Max movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
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“We continue to adjust production for an optimal mix of sales growth and profitability,” Ford said in an emailed statement.
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So Ford is saying that losing $40k+/EV is suboptimal?
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So Ford is saying that losing $40k+/EV is suboptimal?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (17s+e)
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BMW has nearly completed a battery plant about a mile from my house
During Yon Pestilence, that company that made go-nowhere exercise bikes with video embeds built a massive complex at the end of our expressway, with overwhelming state loan guarantees.
It never opened. Somehow major Dem donor First Solar slipped right in there and "took over payments." Pretty slick.
During Yon Pestilence, that company that made go-nowhere exercise bikes with video embeds built a massive complex at the end of our expressway, with overwhelming state loan guarantees.
It never opened. Somehow major Dem donor First Solar slipped right in there and "took over payments." Pretty slick.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (zdLoL)
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Good Friday morning, Horde, and congrats RMBS on the first!
I can't even work up a good schadenfreude rant about the end of the EV craze, because it was so inevitable. "Gee, let's replace proven internal combustion technology with heavy, limited-utility vehicles that will eventually run out of juice on the side of the road and require a tow. What could possibly go wrong?"
I can't even work up a good schadenfreude rant about the end of the EV craze, because it was so inevitable. "Gee, let's replace proven internal combustion technology with heavy, limited-utility vehicles that will eventually run out of juice on the side of the road and require a tow. What could possibly go wrong?"
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (v23vE)
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On another topic/rant; why do EV's that need the electricity produced by their batteries always seem to have irrelevant LED lights placed around and inside the vehicle for "decoration."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)
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Come on, Ford! You were supposed to have cars powered by Mr. Fusion already. Pour in a can of Bud Light, and run for 1000 miles with a full load, and it might be worth considering....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (VNX3d)
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>>>address bloated inventories and narrow losses on the pickup trucks.
They cleanly missed the window on this. My FiL was on waiting list for one. They held onto his deposit for many moons until he got fed up with the endless broken promises, cancelled, and bought a used F150 (ecoboost, I think it was).
They cleanly missed the window on this. My FiL was on waiting list for one. They held onto his deposit for many moons until he got fed up with the endless broken promises, cancelled, and bought a used F150 (ecoboost, I think it was).
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon, Guilty as a Jaywalker, Free as a Bird at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (i24o9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 01, 2024 11:16 AM (63Dwl)
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"Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year."
The other number I heard was something like they lost $38,000 on each ev unit sold. So, uh, yeah. Stop doing that.
The other number I heard was something like they lost $38,000 on each ev unit sold. So, uh, yeah. Stop doing that.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 01, 2024 11:16 AM (pIfcn)
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The "real" Broncos have gotten high praise for their off-road prowess. I'm waiting for the OJ Signature version.
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Oddly, all OJ Signature versions come in white.
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Oddly, all OJ Signature versions come in white.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:16 AM (AdHga)
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‘ Female lead from Baby Driver and Yesterday.
Really cute British girl. ’
Inspired decision. She’ll be much more believable in an action role.
‘ Female lead from Baby Driver and Yesterday.
Really cute British girl. ’
Inspired decision. She’ll be much more believable in an action role.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 11:16 AM (jbnUc)
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Wasn't Cliffhanger the movie with the girl from Northern Exposure?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (5GHxz)
Janine Turner.
Also very hot.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM (5GHxz)
Janine Turner.
Also very hot.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (1Yy3c)
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There are loads of YooToob videos with female musicians playing classical pieces, piano or violin, etc., and they are beautiful as well as talented.
Two words: Tatyana Ryzhkova. You're welcome.
Two words: Tatyana Ryzhkova. You're welcome.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (/y8xj)
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Van Jones with absolute moral clarity:
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
… we have descended into a hell world where Van Jones is a voice of reason
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
… we have descended into a hell world where Van Jones is a voice of reason
Posted by: SMOD at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)
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I wonder how much of Ford Motor Company EV losses are covered by payments from the federal government.
I bet a lot, though I have no facts.
I bet a lot, though I have no facts.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (ZDdaL)
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Porsche is calling their new dump-the-EV strategy some bullshit like they are "EV Hybrids" ... which is basically just a regular hybrid, but they want to cling to the "EV" moniker like it's some witchcraft talisman.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (iFTx/)
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Toyota, AFAIK, started this with their "electrified diversified" campaign. Everything is an EV now, per Toyota. "Hybrid EV" and "plugin hybrid EV" and "battery EV."
Toyota's strongest tech and engineering - and a lot of strategic direction, as far as I can tell from the outside - is in gas and hybrid (which is probably good - because hybrid is often decent for a lot of use cases), so they changed the language to suit their own purposes.
The others like Ford and VAG are playing "monkey see, monkey do" and hoping nobody notices. One consequence of this will be that "EV" is going to be redefined in general.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (iFTx/)
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Toyota, AFAIK, started this with their "electrified diversified" campaign. Everything is an EV now, per Toyota. "Hybrid EV" and "plugin hybrid EV" and "battery EV."
Toyota's strongest tech and engineering - and a lot of strategic direction, as far as I can tell from the outside - is in gas and hybrid (which is probably good - because hybrid is often decent for a lot of use cases), so they changed the language to suit their own purposes.
The others like Ford and VAG are playing "monkey see, monkey do" and hoping nobody notices. One consequence of this will be that "EV" is going to be redefined in general.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
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The production slowdown represents a fall from grace for the F-150 Lightning.
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There was no actual grae with the lightning, only propaganda. Mr. Farley how did that propaganda work out for the Ford bottom line.
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There was no actual grae with the lightning, only propaganda. Mr. Farley how did that propaganda work out for the Ford bottom line.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (17s+e)
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The "real" Broncos have gotten high praise for their off-road prowess. I'm waiting for the OJ Signature version.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM
I sure hope there isn't one.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 01, 2024 11:14 AM
I sure hope there isn't one.
Posted by: Nicole Brown Simpson & Ron Goldman at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (+oR7L)
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Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (MBS2I)
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101 Van Jones with absolute moral clarity:
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
… we have descended into a hell world where Van Jones is a voice of reason
Posted by: SMOD at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)
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Van Jones, black communist, is now to the right of the Kamala Harris campaign regarding Israel.
Remarkable.
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
… we have descended into a hell world where Van Jones is a voice of reason
Posted by: SMOD at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)
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Van Jones, black communist, is now to the right of the Kamala Harris campaign regarding Israel.
Remarkable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (GBKbO)
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gas powered pickups. Piff, diesel pickups are the best for towing heavier loads.
Electric pickups, what was the point? a pickup for someone who doesn't need a pickup other than semi-annual getting lumber or other home and yard maintenance supplies and otherwise wants a commuter vehicle?
Electric pickups, what was the point? a pickup for someone who doesn't need a pickup other than semi-annual getting lumber or other home and yard maintenance supplies and otherwise wants a commuter vehicle?
Posted by: PaleRider, deplorable basket of garbage at November 01, 2024 11:18 AM (CKOCg)
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I watched Furiosa last night . It wasn’t the typical girl power movie I thought it would be . I liked it more than Fury Road which was typical to me.
Agree. It was a pleasant surprise.
Agree. It was a pleasant surprise.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)
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However, the good news is that it seems that the Australian government actually paid for most of the film, so it's possible that we could still get another Mad Max movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
There's a topic for discussion. Hollywood is dead and productions are generally split between Aus, Canada, Georgia and whoever else provides the corporate welfare bennies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
There's a topic for discussion. Hollywood is dead and productions are generally split between Aus, Canada, Georgia and whoever else provides the corporate welfare bennies.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (1Yy3c)
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Some former fed reserve person on CNBC this morning pfffttt away the jobs report, saying she knew the hurricane would cause irregularities in the report. No biggie.
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Because the mountains of North Carolina and Georgia were primed to make 140,000 jobs before Helene.
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Because the mountains of North Carolina and Georgia were primed to make 140,000 jobs before Helene.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (hovnC)
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (nBRaJ)
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Has anyone done a wellness check on James Carville and Jimmy Carter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (MBS2I)
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Group 3 is the winner. A lot of people who were making fun of Toyota 5-10 years ago are starting to be pretty quiet. Toyota is going to win this round of auto industry realignment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Group Three is the one grounded in consumer reality. The other two are based on fairy dust and input from large investment managers like State St. and Blackrock.
Given the amount of stockholder value destroyed by Vanguard, State St., and Blackrock due to their incompetent and intentional mismanagement of the funds given to them to manage. Every one of those CEOs at that firm should be stripped of all wealth and put in a Supermaxx prison for a very long time.
Inflation has kept that from being seen by investors but inflationary periods never last forever and then a rectification of market values occurs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Group Three is the one grounded in consumer reality. The other two are based on fairy dust and input from large investment managers like State St. and Blackrock.
Given the amount of stockholder value destroyed by Vanguard, State St., and Blackrock due to their incompetent and intentional mismanagement of the funds given to them to manage. Every one of those CEOs at that firm should be stripped of all wealth and put in a Supermaxx prison for a very long time.
Inflation has kept that from being seen by investors but inflationary periods never last forever and then a rectification of market values occurs.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:20 AM (ctrM5)
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John Lithgow played another great part in Cliffhanger.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:20 AM (D6PGr)
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>>17 These Ford F-150's are loaded up onto car transport trucks (the kind used to deliver cars to dealerships) and sent across our Southern border, pronto!
Makes sense, since they don't work in cold weather.
Makes sense, since they don't work in cold weather.
Posted by: Roy at November 01, 2024 11:20 AM (z+ik4)
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The others like Ford and VAG are playing "monkey see, monkey do" and hoping nobody notices. One consequence of this will be that "EV" is going to be redefined in general.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
I had to really think about that one for a moment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
I had to really think about that one for a moment.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (1Yy3c)
Posted by: The Barrel at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (pIfcn)
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Meanwhile....BMW has nearly completed a battery plant about a mile from my house...wondering what it will morph into.
Posted by: BignJames
A fire.
Posted by: BignJames
A fire.
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (QrkKu)
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I will share that I bought a 2024 Bronco this year.
Frankly, I love it. Sure, it is loaded with all kinds of electronic safety measures, some of which I've already experienced and they are beneficial.
Mine comes with GOAT mode (Goes Over Any Terrain) which I haven't used yet but I'm sure it will come up.
The other day some jerk passed me on the right on a 2 lane road, then immediately braked to turn left.
My foot hit the brakes but only after the Bronco Collision Avoidance system kicked in. There was no accident, and there should have been, in fairness.
Gas mileage is 25mpg, the car is always in 4wd. N2 tires.
Plenty of room for the big upright bass.
Frankly, I love it. Sure, it is loaded with all kinds of electronic safety measures, some of which I've already experienced and they are beneficial.
Mine comes with GOAT mode (Goes Over Any Terrain) which I haven't used yet but I'm sure it will come up.
The other day some jerk passed me on the right on a 2 lane road, then immediately braked to turn left.
My foot hit the brakes but only after the Bronco Collision Avoidance system kicked in. There was no accident, and there should have been, in fairness.
Gas mileage is 25mpg, the car is always in 4wd. N2 tires.
Plenty of room for the big upright bass.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (MeG8a)
123
… we have descended into a hell world where Van Jones is a voice of reason
Posted by: SMOD
He is often the only thoughtful and insightful one on CNN (aside from Scott Jennings). He probably won't last much longer.
Posted by: SMOD
He is often the only thoughtful and insightful one on CNN (aside from Scott Jennings). He probably won't last much longer.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
124
Mr. Farley, what is it exactly you do around here? Because to us it looks like make bad strategic decisions, lose tens of billions of dollars, and push the company into bankruptcy.
Posted by: The Two Bobs at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (17s+e)
125
The lighting is great truck if you don't have to go very far. Or carry anything heavy. And lots of time to wait around for it to charge up.
Posted by: Ripley at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (GUOwU)
126
Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
The black guy?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
The black guy?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (1Yy3c)
127
Your daily Atlantic:
This Is Not the End of America
“Democracy lives in the people.”
By McKay Coppins
...To a person, everyone I talked with believed they were on the verge of victory—that Harris would defeat the “wannabe dictator” once and for all, pull America back from the brink, and save the world’s oldest democracy from descending into facism.
Then I would ask a question they found dispiriting: What if she doesn’t?
...Trump and his allies have already clearly signaled what they will do if he loses: Claim victory anyway, declare the election rigged, and engage in another conspiracy to overturn the result, whether by litigation, extra-Constitutional arm-twisting, or even violence. The pressure campaign is unlikely to work; as Paul Rosenzweig noted in The Atlantic, none of the officials ...is a partisan election denier. Still, this full-frontal assault on the validity of the election represents an ongoing threat.
...I’ve begun to worry that prophecies of democratic breakdown following a Trump reelection could become self-fulfilling. What happens to America if Harris voters have fully internalized the idea that democracy is on the ballot, and then “democracy loses?"
This Is Not the End of America
“Democracy lives in the people.”
By McKay Coppins
...To a person, everyone I talked with believed they were on the verge of victory—that Harris would defeat the “wannabe dictator” once and for all, pull America back from the brink, and save the world’s oldest democracy from descending into facism.
Then I would ask a question they found dispiriting: What if she doesn’t?
...Trump and his allies have already clearly signaled what they will do if he loses: Claim victory anyway, declare the election rigged, and engage in another conspiracy to overturn the result, whether by litigation, extra-Constitutional arm-twisting, or even violence. The pressure campaign is unlikely to work; as Paul Rosenzweig noted in The Atlantic, none of the officials ...is a partisan election denier. Still, this full-frontal assault on the validity of the election represents an ongoing threat.
...I’ve begun to worry that prophecies of democratic breakdown following a Trump reelection could become self-fulfilling. What happens to America if Harris voters have fully internalized the idea that democracy is on the ballot, and then “democracy loses?"
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (QAK8m)
128
Since the Biden Junta prosecuted and jailed Douglas Mackey for telling a joke, Jimmy Kimmel (who just told the same joke) should expect to hear from Garland.
https://tinyurl.com/3hmh7274
https://tinyurl.com/3hmh7274
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (ZDdaL)
129
I know I've said this but I really liked Charlize in Atomic Blonde. Lots of charisma and smoking hot.
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (nBRaJ)
130
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
Burgess Meredith? I thought he was dead.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
Burgess Meredith? I thought he was dead.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (MBS2I)
132
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)
Playing with fire.
*tapdances on the lip of the volcano*
Playing with fire.
*tapdances on the lip of the volcano*
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (xCA6C)
133
Has anyone done a wellness check on James Carville and Jimmy Carter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (MBS2I)
I saw an interview with Carville the other day. He made the Crypt Keeper look young and nubile.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2024 11:19 AM (MBS2I)
I saw an interview with Carville the other day. He made the Crypt Keeper look young and nubile.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (k9OZB)
134
113 Some former fed reserve person on CNBC this morning pfffttt away the jobs report, saying she knew the hurricane would cause irregularities in the report. No biggie.
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Because the mountains of North Carolina and Georgia were primed to make 140,000 jobs before Helene.
Posted by: andycanuck
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People in the financial world live in an alternative reality to the rest of us. And it will come crashing down due to sovereign debt issues and reserve currency loss. They mistake the paper world of investments, statistics, and reports etc. for the real world when the divergence of reality between Wall Street/gubmint and Main Street has seldom been so wide.
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Because the mountains of North Carolina and Georgia were primed to make 140,000 jobs before Helene.
Posted by: andycanuck
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People in the financial world live in an alternative reality to the rest of us. And it will come crashing down due to sovereign debt issues and reserve currency loss. They mistake the paper world of investments, statistics, and reports etc. for the real world when the divergence of reality between Wall Street/gubmint and Main Street has seldom been so wide.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (ctrM5)
135
Everything you would want to know about Panda Eyes and wished you didn't...
Not Op Cue
@NotOpCue
🐼🐼🐼🐼 Panda Eyes 🐼🐼🐼🐼
Panda eyes or raccoon eyes are Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) pedophile codes/signifiers of child sodomy. Due to the blunt force trauma during sodomization or rectal torture the eyes can severely bruise and swell up with black circles (periorbital ecchymosis/hematoma) creating the "panda eyes" effect.
On December 23, 2022
@CamCaponeNews
released an interview with former child actor Orlando Brown where he confirmed the panda eyes occurrence, even in grown rappers like
@bluefacebleedem
.
Back in his younger days he appeared on The Jamie Foxx Show (
@iamjamiefoxx
) Season 2 Episode 20 with panda eyes himself as seen in the collage.
He goes on to speak about a child trafficking system of missing children showcased in plain sight by
@Target
and
@WalMart
organized by Jeffrey Epstein.
Not Op Cue
@NotOpCue
🐼🐼🐼🐼 Panda Eyes 🐼🐼🐼🐼
Panda eyes or raccoon eyes are Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) pedophile codes/signifiers of child sodomy. Due to the blunt force trauma during sodomization or rectal torture the eyes can severely bruise and swell up with black circles (periorbital ecchymosis/hematoma) creating the "panda eyes" effect.
On December 23, 2022
@CamCaponeNews
released an interview with former child actor Orlando Brown where he confirmed the panda eyes occurrence, even in grown rappers like
@bluefacebleedem
.
Back in his younger days he appeared on The Jamie Foxx Show (
@iamjamiefoxx
) Season 2 Episode 20 with panda eyes himself as seen in the collage.
He goes on to speak about a child trafficking system of missing children showcased in plain sight by
@Target
and
@WalMart
organized by Jeffrey Epstein.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (TGPs7)
136
The other day some jerk passed me on the right on a 2 lane road, then immediately braked to turn left.
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Did you deploy the heat-seeking missiles?
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Did you deploy the heat-seeking missiles?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (U1w17)
137
I think Ford kind of shot itself in the foot by discontinuing car production except for the Mustang. Trucks and SUV's are so expensive.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (+oR7L)
138
I guess off casting.
Lori Loughlin To Play Police Officer in First Recurring Role Since She Got Out of Prison
Lori Loughlin To Play Police Officer in First Recurring Role Since She Got Out of Prison
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (L/fGl)
139
A fire.
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (QrkKu)
At least there's a hydrant at the end of my driveway.
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (QrkKu)
At least there's a hydrant at the end of my driveway.
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (Yj6Os)
140
129 I know I've said this but I really liked Charlize in Atomic Blonde. Lots of charisma and smoking hot.
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (nBRaJ)
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I've grown to great irritation with the faux-oner.
Do it right, or don't do it.
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (nBRaJ)
=======
I've grown to great irritation with the faux-oner.
Do it right, or don't do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
141
...I’ve begun to worry that prophecies of democratic breakdown following a Trump reelection could become self-fulfilling. What happens to America if Harris voters have fully internalized the idea that democracy is on the ballot, and then “democracy loses?"
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (QAK8m)
Nothing much in Texas or Florida, because Abbott and DeSantis won't put up with that shit. Nothing much in any other State with a governor that won't put up with it. But if the Left Coast wants to burn itself down, have at it. If they trash DC, then just make Mar a Lago the new White House.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (QAK8m)
Nothing much in Texas or Florida, because Abbott and DeSantis won't put up with that shit. Nothing much in any other State with a governor that won't put up with it. But if the Left Coast wants to burn itself down, have at it. If they trash DC, then just make Mar a Lago the new White House.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (wyMQY)
142
The EVangelists will tell you that the Lightning had an 88% sales increase YoY which isn't bad... but they sold a microscopic amount last year that its hardly an achievement to crow about.
They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (F9i4r)
143
>>"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
No sh#t, really?
Didn't the Palestinian people elect Hamas to run their government for years and years? How does one differentiate Hamas from the Palestinian cause when 75+% of the Palestinians polled days after 10/7 supported the 10/7 attack?
No sh#t, really?
Didn't the Palestinian people elect Hamas to run their government for years and years? How does one differentiate Hamas from the Palestinian cause when 75+% of the Palestinians polled days after 10/7 supported the 10/7 attack?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)
144
113. They all were going to work at the Apple Store on the road between Bat Cave and Chimney Rock. (Apple Store was a 100 year old general store totally washed away in the flood). Even if you took in Florida,those job numbers don’t come close to what may have been lost. My nephew works at a car dealership in Cape Coral. He was back to work three days after the hurricane.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (Lz7DO)
145
"I'd think that the new jobs report, 12,000, that is TWELVE THOUSAND, against an estimate of 100,000 new jobs in the month, would be damning news for Harris.
That figure is less than four new jobs PER COUNTY all across the U.S.
Posted by: Mr Gaga "
Most them are probably hired by the Harris campaign to go to rallies.
That figure is less than four new jobs PER COUNTY all across the U.S.
Posted by: Mr Gaga "
Most them are probably hired by the Harris campaign to go to rallies.
Posted by: Ripley at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (GUOwU)
146
know I've said this but I really liked Charlize in Atomic Blonde. Lots of charisma and smoking hot.
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (nBRaJ)
Not bad movie but IMO
Red Sparrow >> Atomic Blonde
Best girl power movie. Alia - Battle Angel
Although I find the cuts in the "long take" scene distracting it's still very well done. It demonstrates that you can still make engaging action scenes in the era of every hero being a gun fu kick ass.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:22 AM (nBRaJ)
Not bad movie but IMO
Red Sparrow >> Atomic Blonde
Best girl power movie. Alia - Battle Angel
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (D6PGr)
147
...I’ve begun to worry that prophecies of democratic breakdown following a Trump reelection could become self-fulfilling. What happens to America if Harris voters have fully internalized the idea that democracy is on the ballot, and then “democracy loses?"
Posted by: LizLem
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Then Ms. Steve Jobs has her money (and thence power) taken away from her. That is all that signals. Might be afraid of what Epstein files reveal too as she was good friends with Ghislaine Maxwell.
Posted by: LizLem
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Then Ms. Steve Jobs has her money (and thence power) taken away from her. That is all that signals. Might be afraid of what Epstein files reveal too as she was good friends with Ghislaine Maxwell.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:25 AM (ctrM5)
148
Alita stupid autocorrect
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:25 AM (D6PGr)
149
"Did you deploy the heat-seeking missiles?"
I think the driver of the other car was trying to cause an accident, insurance scam or something.
A lot of that going around.
I think the driver of the other car was trying to cause an accident, insurance scam or something.
A lot of that going around.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 01, 2024 11:25 AM (MeG8a)
150
146 Not bad movie but IMO
Red Sparrow >> Atomic Blonde
Best girl power movie. Alia - Battle Angel
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (D6PGr)
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Red Sparrow was surprisingly good, but it's more of a straight spy film than an action movie.
Red Sparrow >> Atomic Blonde
Best girl power movie. Alia - Battle Angel
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (D6PGr)
======
Red Sparrow was surprisingly good, but it's more of a straight spy film than an action movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
151
The fact that Van Jones can reason is what makes him extra dangerous. Reminds me of the professor they used to have on Red Eye. Would say the most egregious hateful shit but then be funny. These are people that understand the war we are in - the war they are waging - and are happy to clobber us bamn.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:25 AM (nBRaJ)
152
Group 3 is the winner. A lot of people who were making fun of Toyota 5-10 years ago are starting to be pretty quiet. Toyota is going to win this round of auto industry realignment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)
____
I think they already won this round. Not sure about the 2nd. Not even sure what the 2nd round will be. But I think it won't be over EV/hybrid. It will be over some newer tech. Any tech for mass adoption of 100s of millions of units (vehicles) using yuge, expensive, highly toxic and inherently dangerous batteries is most likely a dead end.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:04 AM (HnUIn)
____
I think they already won this round. Not sure about the 2nd. Not even sure what the 2nd round will be. But I think it won't be over EV/hybrid. It will be over some newer tech. Any tech for mass adoption of 100s of millions of units (vehicles) using yuge, expensive, highly toxic and inherently dangerous batteries is most likely a dead end.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
153
Panda eyes from brown eye poking?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (17s+e)
154
Isnt Alita a cartoon?
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (nBRaJ)
155
Part 2 of your daily Atlantic:
...In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers. The energy wasn’t contained to the liberal “resistance” movement. Conservative expats launched their own political groups and publications. As my colleague Franklin Foer recently wrote, the warnings of impending autocracy in America at the time “helped propel a spirit of loud, uncompromising opposition to Trump.”
...Joe Biden’s victory represented a triumphant climax in the narrative of the Trump era. And had the one-term, twice-impeached president simply receded into a Mar-a-Lago exile, the story might have ended with a tidy civic moral: An aspiring authoritarian was vanquished in the most American way possible—at the ballot box. Democracy wins again. But of course the story didn’t end there...Trump is within a coin flip of returning to the Oval Office has created some dissonance in liberal America.
...In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers. The energy wasn’t contained to the liberal “resistance” movement. Conservative expats launched their own political groups and publications. As my colleague Franklin Foer recently wrote, the warnings of impending autocracy in America at the time “helped propel a spirit of loud, uncompromising opposition to Trump.”
...Joe Biden’s victory represented a triumphant climax in the narrative of the Trump era. And had the one-term, twice-impeached president simply receded into a Mar-a-Lago exile, the story might have ended with a tidy civic moral: An aspiring authoritarian was vanquished in the most American way possible—at the ballot box. Democracy wins again. But of course the story didn’t end there...Trump is within a coin flip of returning to the Oval Office has created some dissonance in liberal America.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (QAK8m)
156
The EVangelists will tell you that the Lightning had an 88% sales increase YoY which isn't bad... but they sold a microscopic amount last year that its hardly an achievement to crow about.
They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (F9i4r)
++++
"Fastest-growing" is easy easy easy when the product or company is new.
"Our platform is the fastest-growing SaaS CRM system in the market this year" isn't meaningful without context. Going from a million bucks in sales during the beta year with preferred partners to 50 million bucks in the year of true general availability is a killer growth rate, but doesn't indicate market leadership and it cannot be used to gauge demand or market conditions.
They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (F9i4r)
++++
"Fastest-growing" is easy easy easy when the product or company is new.
"Our platform is the fastest-growing SaaS CRM system in the market this year" isn't meaningful without context. Going from a million bucks in sales during the beta year with preferred partners to 50 million bucks in the year of true general availability is a killer growth rate, but doesn't indicate market leadership and it cannot be used to gauge demand or market conditions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (HnUIn)
157
John Lithgow played another great part in Cliffhanger.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024
***
And I presume Brian Dennehy shone as the north face of the mountain?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024
***
And I presume Brian Dennehy shone as the north face of the mountain?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (J2vNu)
158
"Has anyone done a wellness check on James Carville and Jimmy Carter?
Posted by: Anna Puma"
Jimmy Carter has been in hospice for at least 2 years but still just might outlive Keith Richards.
Posted by: Anna Puma"
Jimmy Carter has been in hospice for at least 2 years but still just might outlive Keith Richards.
Posted by: Ripley at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (GUOwU)
159
Airport parking is expensive. If you take a trip for a week, but car is stolen day one, are you still charged for the week? Does insurance pay?
These are questions for 21st century America.
These are questions for 21st century America.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (wBaIH)
160
There any sort of authoritative (clandestine?) source for e-vehicle fires? There was a massive vehicle fire on I-10 eastbound at Gessner in Houston on Tuesday that was raging at 5:30pm. Black smoke plume you could see from over a mile away (I thought it was a building on fire). The smoke was billowing over all 6 lanes on the westbound side. 2+ hours later and there were still lanes blocked and clean up ongoing. I couldn't get a good look at the vehicle but been searching city / state accident databases and news articles and can't find anything about it, though loads of accidents are logged... It seemed to match all the descriptions of an e-vehicle fire. That's a major thruway and seems too big to not report. Just curious if it was an e-vehicle that was deliberately covered up...
Posted by: bearski at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (Bhsk7)
161
@RyanGirdusky
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
========
A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
========
A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
162
F-k Outlets, Run Diesel!
Posted by: Ford Shareholders at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (Qs9lt)
163
I saw an interview with Carville the other day. He made the Crypt Keeper look young and nubile.
He'ssmart crafty enough to realize that the Democrat party as he knew it is gone with the wind but he has no idea what to do about it. I have this fantasy where he comes out and says "If anybody is still listening to me, vote for Trump so we can burn this sh*t party to the ground and rebuild it." I'm almost certain that he's thought it.
He's
Posted by: Oddbob at November 01, 2024 11:28 AM (/y8xj)
164
know I've said this but I really liked Charlize in Atomic Blonde. Lots of charisma and smoking hot.
==
Not enough nude Charlize.
==
Not enough nude Charlize.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:28 AM (17s+e)
165
I've grown to great irritation with the faux-oner.
Do it right, or don't do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
The one in True Detective is real and spectacular.
Just gimmicky when it's not real.
Do it right, or don't do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
The one in True Detective is real and spectacular.
Just gimmicky when it's not real.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:28 AM (nBRaJ)
166
At least there's a hydrant at the end of my driveway.
Posted by: BignJames
I hope it's hooked up to the Atlantic Ocean.
Posted by: BignJames
I hope it's hooked up to the Atlantic Ocean.
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:29 AM (QrkKu)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:29 AM (xCA6C)
168
Didn't the Palestinian people elect Hamas to run their government for years and years?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)
I'm sure their elections are just as secure as ours.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)
I'm sure their elections are just as secure as ours.
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2024 11:29 AM (Yj6Os)
169
Nothing much in Texas or Florida, because Abbott and DeSantis won't put up with that shit. Nothing much in any other State with a governor that won't put up with it. But if the Left Coast wants to burn itself down, have at it. If they trash DC, then just make Mar a Lago the new White House.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Nothing says that the inauguration has to be held in DC. Pick a red state with a solid governor and let Antifa and the various paid street protesters try to repeat that shit in a non favorable place.
It is time, symbolically and in reality, to isolate and abandon DC as the nexus of power for the bureaucracy, presidency, etc. which also negates the capture of the DC and federal court systems by moving lawfare targets away from their pestilent NYC and DC shitholes.
Turn DC into a monument city and disperse the agencies throughout the US. With virtual meetings and modern communications technology--there is no reason to have everything centralized.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Nothing says that the inauguration has to be held in DC. Pick a red state with a solid governor and let Antifa and the various paid street protesters try to repeat that shit in a non favorable place.
It is time, symbolically and in reality, to isolate and abandon DC as the nexus of power for the bureaucracy, presidency, etc. which also negates the capture of the DC and federal court systems by moving lawfare targets away from their pestilent NYC and DC shitholes.
Turn DC into a monument city and disperse the agencies throughout the US. With virtual meetings and modern communications technology--there is no reason to have everything centralized.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
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165 The one in True Detective is real and spectacular.
Just gimmicky when it's not real.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:28 AM (nBRaJ)
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The oner is generally gimmicky.
I think the only person who pulls it off completely naturally anymore is Spielberg, and even he can go gimmicky (the wooshing shot in the van in War of the Worlds).
Just gimmicky when it's not real.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:28 AM (nBRaJ)
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The oner is generally gimmicky.
I think the only person who pulls it off completely naturally anymore is Spielberg, and even he can go gimmicky (the wooshing shot in the van in War of the Worlds).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
172
What could go wrong?
Joseph P. Farrell
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
Joseph P. Farrell
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (TGPs7)
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Meanwhile....BMW has nearly completed a battery plant about a mile from my house...wondering what it will morph into.
Posted by: BignJames
A fire.
Posted by: t-bird
Like the one in Missouri just did.
Posted by: BignJames
A fire.
Posted by: t-bird
Like the one in Missouri just did.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (rKWoo)
174
Theron dated Sean Penn. some things I will never understand about women.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (D6PGr)
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“Gladiator” Director Ridley Scott Developing a Battle of Britain Film, and Six Other Projects
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Might be good.
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Might be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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we confound the listeners by speaking in Latin.
You shit, too. Really trying my patience here.
There is a limit to our tolerance.
That's not Latin, you chant not speak, and nominate dominoes and a box of Nabisco have no damned idea what you're saying.
I lost my fourth year of high school classical Latin because you back-stabbers pulled rank on the public school board on the bishop's say-so, and got our class canceled. Because 'The Church' was suddenly against Latin -- then. You're very changeable people. You do what you are told and speak when you're told to. Don't be flopping eternal verities around after some of the crap you've pulled. Consider yourself seen through.
You shit, too. Really trying my patience here.
There is a limit to our tolerance.
That's not Latin, you chant not speak, and nominate dominoes and a box of Nabisco have no damned idea what you're saying.
I lost my fourth year of high school classical Latin because you back-stabbers pulled rank on the public school board on the bishop's say-so, and got our class canceled. Because 'The Church' was suddenly against Latin -- then. You're very changeable people. You do what you are told and speak when you're told to. Don't be flopping eternal verities around after some of the crap you've pulled. Consider yourself seen through.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (zdLoL)
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Jimmy Carter has been in hospice for at least 2 years but still just might outlive Keith Richards.
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No one will outlive Keith or George Soros.
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No one will outlive Keith or George Soros.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (AdHga)
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This is good news. Now maybe they will quit sending me their damn ads.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (gfztU)
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Didn't the Palestinian people elect Hamas to run their government for years and years?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)
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Hamas won in, IIRC, 2006 after Israel cut Gaza loose. Threw out Fatah and took over in what may have been a reasonably legitimate election.
There was never a subsequent legitimate election as far as I know. Hamas keeps winning elections, of course, but it isn't an open field.
It turns out that installing theocratic terrorists on a platform of vengeance and racial hatred isn't conducive to open or honest government.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)
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Hamas won in, IIRC, 2006 after Israel cut Gaza loose. Threw out Fatah and took over in what may have been a reasonably legitimate election.
There was never a subsequent legitimate election as far as I know. Hamas keeps winning elections, of course, but it isn't an open field.
It turns out that installing theocratic terrorists on a platform of vengeance and racial hatred isn't conducive to open or honest government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (HnUIn)
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Van Jones with absolute moral clarity:
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
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Now do all the other Pali organizations and don't forget Hezbollah. Hell, just say the whole Pali population.
"The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by a Nazi organization called Hamas, they are not freedom fighters, they are freedom takers... They are trying to destroy Israel way more than they are trying to help the Palestinian people."
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Now do all the other Pali organizations and don't forget Hezbollah. Hell, just say the whole Pali population.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)
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Theron also has a tranny kid IIRC.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (D6PGr)
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Buick is the same way -- SUVs only. If you want a Buick sedan, you have to go used. For giggles I looked on Autotrader to see if any 2017-2019 Buick LaCrosse sedans, the last generation, were to be had; and they are, some as low as $17K. There's a white '19 with cream interior near me asking $25K.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu)
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@RyanGirdusky
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
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A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
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A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication.
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (RHGPo)
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“Gladiator” Director Ridley Scott Developing a Battle of Britain Film, and Six Other Projects
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Might be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Given the train wreck that was "Napoleon." I'm skeptible.
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Might be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Given the train wreck that was "Napoleon." I'm skeptible.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (U1w17)
187
International Paper closed its mill in Georgetown, SC. Down 800 jobs by the end of the year.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (wBaIH)
188
This busty blonde in a one-piece wants an exciting, torquey, balls-to-the-wall EV sports car, but understands that this is a niche luxury market:
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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The oner is generally gimmicky.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
Right. That's what I meant when I said it's "just gimmicky" when it's not real. IOW there is nothing more to it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
Right. That's what I meant when I said it's "just gimmicky" when it's not real. IOW there is nothing more to it.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (nBRaJ)
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154 Isnt Alita a cartoon?
originally. they did a live action / heavy cgi version a while back. i rather liked it, but i never saw the original anime so i had no expectations to disappoint.
originally. they did a live action / heavy cgi version a while back. i rather liked it, but i never saw the original anime so i had no expectations to disappoint.
Posted by: anachronda at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (sGtp+)
191
EV demand is not waning. It just never existed in the first place.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (wtLre)
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‘ He made the Crypt Keeper look young and nubile.’
If Carville looks that bad maybe we could get away with burying him early.
‘ He made the Crypt Keeper look young and nubile.’
If Carville looks that bad maybe we could get away with burying him early.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (jbnUc)
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What could go wrong?
Joseph P. Farrell
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (TGPs7)
My City Was Gone - Chrissie Hynde
https://youtu.be/thu8DWsirJo
Joseph P. Farrell
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (TGPs7)
My City Was Gone - Chrissie Hynde
https://youtu.be/thu8DWsirJo
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon, Guilty as a Jaywalker, Free as a Bird at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (i24o9)
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From Atlas polls:
Harris leads in only one of the 7 decisive swing states for the Electoral College outcome: Wisconsin. Trump's advantage over his opponent is most significant in states such as AZ, NV and NC.
According to them, AZ and NC are completely off the board for Harris, and Trump is just about above the MOE in NV and GA.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (i7Q7S)
I do think Trump will sweep the Sun Belt, but the media narrative-shaping polls and news stories are signaling that the 3 Rust Belt/Blue Wall states are completely "fortified"; the cheat in Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia will give Harris a narrow but devastating win.
Harris leads in only one of the 7 decisive swing states for the Electoral College outcome: Wisconsin. Trump's advantage over his opponent is most significant in states such as AZ, NV and NC.
According to them, AZ and NC are completely off the board for Harris, and Trump is just about above the MOE in NV and GA.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:13 AM (i7Q7S)
I do think Trump will sweep the Sun Belt, but the media narrative-shaping polls and news stories are signaling that the 3 Rust Belt/Blue Wall states are completely "fortified"; the cheat in Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia will give Harris a narrow but devastating win.
Posted by: Wiese at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (1pand)
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Apparently, the car thief rings are proper, big enterprises now. These aren't kids boosting cars anymore. They bring in car haulers and just steal them en masse from multiple lots. Inside men at the gate to wave the haulers through, teams to hit multiple cars quickly, etc.
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So, Union Labor, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (AdHga)
And they are undoubtedly receiving protection from government and law enforcement. I mean, how hard would it be for cops to check the bonafides of loaded car haulers leaving metro Denver?
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So, Union Labor, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:07 AM (AdHga)
And they are undoubtedly receiving protection from government and law enforcement. I mean, how hard would it be for cops to check the bonafides of loaded car haulers leaving metro Denver?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (m4oRq)
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This busty blonde in a one-piece wants an exciting, torquey, balls-to-the-wall EV sports car, but understands that this is a niche luxury market:
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
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Built for comfort not speed.
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
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Built for comfort not speed.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (17s+e)
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184 Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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The historical patterns of Election Day in almost every state trend heavily towards Republicans.
In PA in 2020, it was something like R+30.
It won't be R+30 again, most likely. Many of those missing early D voters will show up on election day.
At this point, Trump only needs an R+8 for what should be a close win.
The only data points in Harris' favor are polls. And polls are bullshit.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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The historical patterns of Election Day in almost every state trend heavily towards Republicans.
In PA in 2020, it was something like R+30.
It won't be R+30 again, most likely. Many of those missing early D voters will show up on election day.
At this point, Trump only needs an R+8 for what should be a close win.
The only data points in Harris' favor are polls. And polls are bullshit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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EV demand is not waning. It just never existed in the first place.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (wtLre)
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It did. Never as much as expected, but it did. Most of it was directly purchased through subsidies and regulatory shenanigans. Organic EV demand is fairly small.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (wtLre)
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It did. Never as much as expected, but it did. Most of it was directly purchased through subsidies and regulatory shenanigans. Organic EV demand is fairly small.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (HnUIn)
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They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
Posted by: Defenestratus
And they made fewer money.
Posted by: Defenestratus
And they made fewer money.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (v6JzV)
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The fact that Van Jones can reason is what makes him extra dangerous. Reminds me of the professor they used to have on Red Eye. Would say the most egregious hateful shit but then be funny. These are people that understand the war we are in - the war they are waging - and are happy to clobber us bamn.
Posted by: ...
Jones and his ilk understood the Left was playing with fire. They're reading the room and understanding they're about to be in the middle of an inferno with no control over the outcome. This is an attempt to differentiate themselves as "not part of what you're fighting".
Posted by: ...
Jones and his ilk understood the Left was playing with fire. They're reading the room and understanding they're about to be in the middle of an inferno with no control over the outcome. This is an attempt to differentiate themselves as "not part of what you're fighting".
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (m4oRq)
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126 Sylvester Stallone Dropped From “Cliffhanger” Sequel - Lily James To Star In Lead Role
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
The black guy?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (1Yy3c)
Cliffhanger was a great movie. No need to make another one - even with Stallone.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
Who?!?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c)
You know. The guy from Rocky.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:17 AM (D6PGr)
The black guy?
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:21 AM (1Yy3c)
Cliffhanger was a great movie. No need to make another one - even with Stallone.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (ndUWR)
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189 Right. That's what I meant when I said it's "just gimmicky" when it's not real. IOW there is nothing more to it.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (nBRaJ)
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Eh, even real ones are gimmicky.
Like the Goodfellas one. It's great. It serves purpose. It's still a gimmick. It's just a gimmick in service to a purpose.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (nBRaJ)
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Eh, even real ones are gimmicky.
Like the Goodfellas one. It's great. It serves purpose. It's still a gimmick. It's just a gimmick in service to a purpose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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Your daily Atlantic, part 3:
...Last week, The New York Times reported on a memo...warning Democrats that persuadable voters weren’t being moved by messages that focused on the former president’s authoritarianism. “Attacking Trump’s fascism is not that persuasive,” the email read. Compared with 2020, fewer Americans are telling pollsters that they are highly motivated to vote, or that this is the most important election of their lifetime.
...Biden’s son Hunter recently told Politico he was worried that Trump’s reelection would mean “losing our democracy to a fascist minority” and warned that a second Trump term “is potentially the end of America as we’ve known it.”
...I’ve wondered whether another Trump victory would spur in them the same spirit of post-2016 activism or send them spiraling into fatalism and disengagement.
...Some of them told me about friends...who might tend toward fatalism if Trump wins again. But the people I met...were not thinking of Election Day as a singular were not thinking of Election Day as a singular make-or-break moment.
...“Democracy lives in the people.” As long as people hold on to "that spirit, it will be hard to kill.”
...Last week, The New York Times reported on a memo...warning Democrats that persuadable voters weren’t being moved by messages that focused on the former president’s authoritarianism. “Attacking Trump’s fascism is not that persuasive,” the email read. Compared with 2020, fewer Americans are telling pollsters that they are highly motivated to vote, or that this is the most important election of their lifetime.
...Biden’s son Hunter recently told Politico he was worried that Trump’s reelection would mean “losing our democracy to a fascist minority” and warned that a second Trump term “is potentially the end of America as we’ve known it.”
...I’ve wondered whether another Trump victory would spur in them the same spirit of post-2016 activism or send them spiraling into fatalism and disengagement.
...Some of them told me about friends...who might tend toward fatalism if Trump wins again. But the people I met...were not thinking of Election Day as a singular were not thinking of Election Day as a singular make-or-break moment.
...“Democracy lives in the people.” As long as people hold on to "that spirit, it will be hard to kill.”
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (QAK8m)
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Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
It's not about that though. It's about what Trump votes they can throw away ("garbage", get it?) and what Harris votes they can pull out of their ass.
Maybe thats what the scripted Biden slur was. A signal that they're going to need to go with Operation Garbage because they can't make enough Harris votes.
It's not about that though. It's about what Trump votes they can throw away ("garbage", get it?) and what Harris votes they can pull out of their ass.
Maybe thats what the scripted Biden slur was. A signal that they're going to need to go with Operation Garbage because they can't make enough Harris votes.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (nBRaJ)
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Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
Then we are as demoralized as Dems...could be right...
I will say, I've been following Fairfax and Arlington County for VA, but I took a gander at Richmond City today. By percent, their early voting is EVEN further down that the NoVa counties...
Still not enough to win the state without a red wave Tuesday...but it will all be fair, so maybe we get that one here...
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
Then we are as demoralized as Dems...could be right...
I will say, I've been following Fairfax and Arlington County for VA, but I took a gander at Richmond City today. By percent, their early voting is EVEN further down that the NoVa counties...
Still not enough to win the state without a red wave Tuesday...but it will all be fair, so maybe we get that one here...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (exHjb)
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A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
this explains why FOUR (4) Kumlala doorknockers have showed up on my front porch this year. The demorats actually had canvassers deployed in an organized manner to cover an area.
I usually just didn't answer the door for these vermin, but one day I decided to just answer the door, tell the kid that I LUVZ me some Kumlala, and I'm voting straight D just to get him to record my response and I would be done with them.
Nope.
They still sent another stalker.
this explains why FOUR (4) Kumlala doorknockers have showed up on my front porch this year. The demorats actually had canvassers deployed in an organized manner to cover an area.
I usually just didn't answer the door for these vermin, but one day I decided to just answer the door, tell the kid that I LUVZ me some Kumlala, and I'm voting straight D just to get him to record my response and I would be done with them.
Nope.
They still sent another stalker.
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (dCxaZ)
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Turn DC into a monument city and disperse the agencies throughout the US. With virtual meetings and modern communications technology--there is no reason to have everything centralized.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
Capitol cities often get impossible to govern after a century or two of entitlement - that's why Constantine decided to build a whole new Capitol and get out of Rome completely.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
Capitol cities often get impossible to govern after a century or two of entitlement - that's why Constantine decided to build a whole new Capitol and get out of Rome completely.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (wyMQY)
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Isnt Alita a cartoon?
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (nBRaJ)
Robert Rodriguez made it into a live action movie.
Fun fact! At one point 20 years ago James Cameron was signed on to direct it. But instead he made that piece of shit Avatar.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (nBRaJ)
Robert Rodriguez made it into a live action movie.
Fun fact! At one point 20 years ago James Cameron was signed on to direct it. But instead he made that piece of shit Avatar.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (1Yy3c)
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Joseph P. Farrell
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
From the link:
And if you've really been paying attention, try an electro-laser.) And that would, indeed, be a "thunderbolt of the Gods," one that could leave a vast planetary scar on the surface of Mars, or, perhaps, even blow up an entire planet.
That's no moon...
@gizadeathstar
Researchers generate black hole ‘plasma fireballs’ on Earth: https://buff.ly/4hrz743
From the link:
And if you've really been paying attention, try an electro-laser.) And that would, indeed, be a "thunderbolt of the Gods," one that could leave a vast planetary scar on the surface of Mars, or, perhaps, even blow up an entire planet.
That's no moon...
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
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>>> 10 They say production is "temporarily suspended". There's a site of an old Luby's Cafeteria near me; the large sign on the property read "temporarily closed" for a year or two after the building had been torn down and turned into a dirt lot. A big wind in the night finally took the sign away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (wyMQY)
May this be the least awful fate of every unConstitutional feralgov agency.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:02 AM (wyMQY)
May this be the least awful fate of every unConstitutional feralgov agency.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (ZiTDd)
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those kinds of numbers indicate a Too Big to Rig scenario
it's about time
The First Turning will not be denied
it's about time
The First Turning will not be denied
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (dCxaZ)
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Jimmy Carter has had Stage 4 cancer for a decade. Perhaps the politically connected and wealthy receive better treatment than the rest.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (wBaIH)
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186 “Gladiator” Director Ridley Scott Developing a Battle of Britain Film, and Six Other Projects
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Might be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Given the train wreck that was "Napoleon." I'm skeptible.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (U1w17)
Agree. Ridley Scott's bad movies are interesting, yet forgettable, failures. His good movies are taught in film schools.
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Might be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Given the train wreck that was "Napoleon." I'm skeptible.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (U1w17)
Agree. Ridley Scott's bad movies are interesting, yet forgettable, failures. His good movies are taught in film schools.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (ndUWR)
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Buick is the same way -- SUVs only. If you want a Buick sedan, you have to go used. For giggles I looked on Autotrader to see if any 2017-2019 Buick LaCrosse sedans, the last generation, were to be had; and they are, some as low as $17K. There's a white '19 with cream interior near me asking $25K.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu)
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In large part that's just the market talking. Buyers want SUVs and station wagons that are called something cooler to avoid the stigma of station wagons.
The only sedans that sell are a few mid-range Japanese and high-end German. And even that is starting to wane as SUVs gradually take over even that market. I doubt there will be more than a handful of sedans on the road in 20 years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu)
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In large part that's just the market talking. Buyers want SUVs and station wagons that are called something cooler to avoid the stigma of station wagons.
The only sedans that sell are a few mid-range Japanese and high-end German. And even that is starting to wane as SUVs gradually take over even that market. I doubt there will be more than a handful of sedans on the road in 20 years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (iFTx/)
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Jones and his ilk understood the Left was playing with fire. They're reading the room and understanding they're about to be in the middle of an inferno with no control over the outcome. This is an attempt to differentiate themselves as "not part of what you're fighting".
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Noam Chomsky was early on this. He looked on at the Millennial with horror around 2014 or 2015 because he thought they were going too hard, too soon and that the people hadn't quite been softened up enough for the final revolution.
He may have been right but looking around, it looks like he may have overstated his case.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 01, 2024 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Noam Chomsky was early on this. He looked on at the Millennial with horror around 2014 or 2015 because he thought they were going too hard, too soon and that the people hadn't quite been softened up enough for the final revolution.
He may have been right but looking around, it looks like he may have overstated his case.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)
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But Trump said Liz Cheney should face a firing squad!!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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That's only if you leave out the apostrophe.
You can clearly hear the apostrophe if you listen closely.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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That's only if you leave out the apostrophe.
You can clearly hear the apostrophe if you listen closely.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (Lo97M)
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199 They sold less Lightnings last year in Q3 than Tim Walz T-count.
Posted by: Defenestratus
And they made fewer money.
i have no response to that.
Posted by: Defenestratus
And they made fewer money.
i have no response to that.
Posted by: anachronda at November 01, 2024 11:37 AM (sGtp+)
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>>> 205 Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
It's not about that though. It's about what Trump votes they can throw away ("garbage", get it?) and what Harris votes they can pull out of their ass.
Maybe thats what the scripted Biden slur was. A signal that they're going to need to go with Operation Garbage because they can't make enough Harris votes.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (nBRaJ)
I am sure this was one of the *many* methods used in 2020 (and not just that year, but 2020 was the ludicrous size version).
It's not about that though. It's about what Trump votes they can throw away ("garbage", get it?) and what Harris votes they can pull out of their ass.
Maybe thats what the scripted Biden slur was. A signal that they're going to need to go with Operation Garbage because they can't make enough Harris votes.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:35 AM (nBRaJ)
I am sure this was one of the *many* methods used in 2020 (and not just that year, but 2020 was the ludicrous size version).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (ZiTDd)
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213 Jimmy Carter has had Stage 4 cancer for a decade. Perhaps the politically connected and wealthy receive better treatment than the rest.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (wBaIH)
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If that's the case, the stage 4 cancer label is being misused, probably for money.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (wBaIH)
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If that's the case, the stage 4 cancer label is being misused, probably for money.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (jyAD3)
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161 @RyanGirdusky
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
AAAAaaand just like that - we're losing PA.
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
AAAAaaand just like that - we're losing PA.
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
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A case study in how the story of early voting in 24 isn't R overperformance but D underperformance by A LOT.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Que Mala and the Dems have run a demonization campaign with little if no positive record to run on and a program to govern (because that would be unpopular with the donors or unpopular with the party). That decreases turnout to committed partisans and is similar to the way GOPe lost a lot of elections. I would guess the drop in Early Votes are reflective that A) the Biden record is not considered good by people not in the passive investor class, B) Que Mala has failed to indicate anything positive in her race of what she would do in office. That turns off partisan leaners who often then just stay home.
The slight dropoff for Trump in EV from 2020 may or not be Trump fatigue or a distrust in early voting from demonstrated problems in the past two elections there involving fraud. Those voters may be planning to show up on Election Day or EV at the last minute. Some may not show up at all.
Indy vote return is something that is as important as those are the leaners and true independents that can break a close race into a rout.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Que Mala and the Dems have run a demonization campaign with little if no positive record to run on and a program to govern (because that would be unpopular with the donors or unpopular with the party). That decreases turnout to committed partisans and is similar to the way GOPe lost a lot of elections. I would guess the drop in Early Votes are reflective that A) the Biden record is not considered good by people not in the passive investor class, B) Que Mala has failed to indicate anything positive in her race of what she would do in office. That turns off partisan leaners who often then just stay home.
The slight dropoff for Trump in EV from 2020 may or not be Trump fatigue or a distrust in early voting from demonstrated problems in the past two elections there involving fraud. Those voters may be planning to show up on Election Day or EV at the last minute. Some may not show up at all.
Indy vote return is something that is as important as those are the leaners and true independents that can break a close race into a rout.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (ctrM5)
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221 AAAAaaand just like that - we're losing PA.
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
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If you look at it in a vaccuum, sure.
Except, the comparison to 2020, when Biden won by about 1% of the overall vote, makes the numbers far less indicative of a Democrat blowout.
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
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If you look at it in a vaccuum, sure.
Except, the comparison to 2020, when Biden won by about 1% of the overall vote, makes the numbers far less indicative of a Democrat blowout.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
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Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
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Do you mean doubling fake ballots?
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
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Do you mean doubling fake ballots?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (jyAD3)
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I feel like I'm being "psi-opp'd" when it comes to the sudden Kamala "surge."
It feels, to me, like a last-gasp effort to drive up Dem turnout and stifle GOP turnout on election day.
Early voting is overwhelmingly positive for Trump, to the point where the lead is almost insurmountable in several key states, assuming normal (not even extraordinary) voting trends hold on election day.
I think, right now, Trump is the absolute favorite to win Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. That puts him at 268 and needing just one more. It's inconceivable that half the swing states would all swing big for Trump and the other half would vote for Kamala, when the issues of the election are national not regional.
It feels, to me, like a last-gasp effort to drive up Dem turnout and stifle GOP turnout on election day.
Early voting is overwhelmingly positive for Trump, to the point where the lead is almost insurmountable in several key states, assuming normal (not even extraordinary) voting trends hold on election day.
I think, right now, Trump is the absolute favorite to win Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. That puts him at 268 and needing just one more. It's inconceivable that half the swing states would all swing big for Trump and the other half would vote for Kamala, when the issues of the election are national not regional.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (pZ0Mr)
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the movie Alita had a lot going for it; but the ending was a lead-in to a sequel that never happened, so it was disappointing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (wyMQY)
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Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
At the very least, it gives the Dems cover for a cheat. They will claim that we all voted early, so of course there is a big surge for Biden at 3 am.
At the very least, it gives the Dems cover for a cheat. They will claim that we all voted early, so of course there is a big surge for Biden at 3 am.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)
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Too bad math is verboten.
Michigan Gov. Whitmer Falsely Claims Michigan Added 27,000 Jobs This Fiscal Year - They're Down 16,000
Michigan Gov. Whitmer Falsely Claims Michigan Added 27,000 Jobs This Fiscal Year - They're Down 16,000
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
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that could leave a vast planetary scar on the surface of Mars, or, perhaps, even blow up an entire planet.
We're only developing this technology so that we're prepared to guard against it.
We're only developing this technology so that we're prepared to guard against it.
Posted by: Science! at November 01, 2024 11:39 AM (QrkKu)
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I think there are three paths to a Kamala win:
1) polls are somehow under-estimating her level of support, as kind of a "pollster overcorrection" from the past two Presidential Election cycles.
2) there is a silent woman vote for abortion that is such a large bloc that it will swing several states from Trump to Kamala, costing him a state like Georgia, for example.
3) The big early voting lead that Trump is getting is cannibalizing his day-of vote total, and the enthusiasm/momentum we're seeing is really just the same people who supported him in 2016 and 2020, but now a larger portion of them are more willing to vocally say so.
If all three of those are true, I think Kamala wins handily.
If two of those three are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Kamala win
If one of those are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Trump win
If none of those are true, I think the race is what it "FEELS" like, and that's a big Trump win
I think there are three paths to a Kamala win:
1) polls are somehow under-estimating her level of support, as kind of a "pollster overcorrection" from the past two Presidential Election cycles.
2) there is a silent woman vote for abortion that is such a large bloc that it will swing several states from Trump to Kamala, costing him a state like Georgia, for example.
3) The big early voting lead that Trump is getting is cannibalizing his day-of vote total, and the enthusiasm/momentum we're seeing is really just the same people who supported him in 2016 and 2020, but now a larger portion of them are more willing to vocally say so.
If all three of those are true, I think Kamala wins handily.
If two of those three are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Kamala win
If one of those are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Trump win
If none of those are true, I think the race is what it "FEELS" like, and that's a big Trump win
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (pZ0Mr)
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222 Indy vote return is something that is as important as those are the leaners and true independents that can break a close race into a rout.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (ctrM5)
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If D registration numbers are down, it seems like a safe assumption that Independent Democrat leaners are also not showing up, and probably at greater proportion.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (ctrM5)
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If D registration numbers are down, it seems like a safe assumption that Independent Democrat leaners are also not showing up, and probably at greater proportion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)
Another guy that just won’t die. Though I think he may be a vegetable now.
Another guy that just won’t die. Though I think he may be a vegetable now.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (D6PGr)
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In all the election hubbub, a huge story has gone relatively unnoticed:
Israel has defeated Hezbollah. Defeated.
The Hez have agreed to implementation of UN resolution 1701, which requires them to withdraw to north of the Litani river. They appear to have dropped their previous insistence that a Gaza truce must come first.
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced. Given that UNIFIL and the Lebanese government have never enforced 1701 before, this is only reasonable.
Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Israel has defeated Hezbollah. Defeated.
The Hez have agreed to implementation of UN resolution 1701, which requires them to withdraw to north of the Litani river. They appear to have dropped their previous insistence that a Gaza truce must come first.
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced. Given that UNIFIL and the Lebanese government have never enforced 1701 before, this is only reasonable.
Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
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230 3) The big early voting lead that Trump is getting is cannibalizing his day-of vote total, and the enthusiasm/momentum we're seeing is really just the same people who supported him in 2016 and 2020, but now a larger portion of them are more willing to vocally say so.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (pZ0Mr)
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This is absolutely not happening, by the way.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (pZ0Mr)
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This is absolutely not happening, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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A fun indicator to watch for, *if* the cheating efforts are overwhelmed, would be celebretards and politicians making flights out of the US.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (ZiTDd)
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‘F150, the most successful truck line ever, let’s destroy that legacy.’
- a strategy Henry Ford never considered
- a strategy Henry Ford never considered
Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (jgmnb)
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Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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You are being silly. PA did not even have early voting until 2020 and a lot of GOP voters prefer voting election day. EV efforts were to get out the low propensity voters rather than the 3/3 types.
That information is out there so you might actually want to delve into what is actually available now on twitter which is a lot more than it used to be thanks to Elon.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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You are being silly. PA did not even have early voting until 2020 and a lot of GOP voters prefer voting election day. EV efforts were to get out the low propensity voters rather than the 3/3 types.
That information is out there so you might actually want to delve into what is actually available now on twitter which is a lot more than it used to be thanks to Elon.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (ctrM5)
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Brock
Gasoline fueled vehicles often "explode"
EVs fires don't explode but are difficult to extinguish
Didn't you take high school chemistry?;
Gasoline fueled vehicles often "explode"
EVs fires don't explode but are difficult to extinguish
Didn't you take high school chemistry?;
Posted by: Paul at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (omuEe)
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Trump’s comments on “guns trained on her face” were about Cheney stoking foreign wars without being willing to fight in their front lines. Middle class Vice President Kamala Harris’s radical extremist campaign took former President Donald Trump’s words out of context, to suggest that he was calling for Liz Cheney to be put before a firing squad.
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (RHGPo)
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Gird your loins and start quoting dialogue from Braveheart...
JD Vance
@JDVance
In 2022, Marist had my Ohio Senate race tied. I won by more than 6.
Stop worrying about polls and go get people to the polls. I am 100 percent sure we have the electorate we need to win. What we need is to work hard over the next 4 days.
JD Vance
@JDVance
In 2022, Marist had my Ohio Senate race tied. I won by more than 6.
Stop worrying about polls and go get people to the polls. I am 100 percent sure we have the electorate we need to win. What we need is to work hard over the next 4 days.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (TGPs7)
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http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
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Built for comfort not speed.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (17s+e)
What's the rush? Elegance is fun, too.
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Built for comfort not speed.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 01, 2024 11:33 AM (17s+e)
What's the rush? Elegance is fun, too.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (1Yy3c)
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233 Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
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"I think you mean defeat! They lost the backing of the international community!
-MSNBC
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
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"I think you mean defeat! They lost the backing of the international community!
-MSNBC
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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2) there is a silent woman vote for abortion that is such a large bloc that it will swing several states from Trump to Kamala, costing him a state like Georgia, for example."
Can you honestly say you have ever met ANY woman for Kamala who can stay silent about it? Come on.
Can you honestly say you have ever met ANY woman for Kamala who can stay silent about it? Come on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (wyMQY)
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Changing the sheets on a king sized bed with 2 Savannah Cats should be an Olympic sport.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (p4NUW)
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Pretty sure Hezbollah is assuming a Trump victory and acting accordingly for the moment.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (nBRaJ)
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226 the movie Alita had a lot going for it; but the ending was a lead-in to a sequel that never happened, so it was disappointing.
never is a long long time
never is a long long time
Posted by: buckaroo bonzai against the world crime league at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (sGtp+)
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This busty blonde in a one-piece wants an exciting, torquey, balls-to-the-wall EV sports car, but understands that this is a niche luxury market:
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
Wow. Very nice.
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
Wow. Very nice.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (v6JzV)
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Here is a guy showing all about the EV Hundai N something I saw on the showroom floor last week.
He does a couple laps on Nurbergring. You gotta see it. Fast forward to the track laps.
I've watched a lot of vids in cars on that track, and this one, in an EV with 600 plus HP, is impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZczpFsv9ZY&loop=0
He does a couple laps on Nurbergring. You gotta see it. Fast forward to the track laps.
I've watched a lot of vids in cars on that track, and this one, in an EV with 600 plus HP, is impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZczpFsv9ZY&loop=0
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (ZtgZZ)
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244 Changing the sheets on a king sized bed with 2 Savannah Cats should be an Olympic sport.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (p4NUW)
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Aren't you tiny and single?
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (p4NUW)
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Aren't you tiny and single?
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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The big early voting lead that Trump is getting is cannibalizing his day-of vote total, and the enthusiasm/momentum we're seeing is really just the same people who supported him in 2016 and 2020, but now a larger portion of them are more willing to vocally say so.
Posted by: Shenanigans
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No indication that is so in the swing states EV data that I have looked at. Distrust in EV and absentee ballots is at a peak for the GOP voters this year. Dunno about independents but they are somewhat aware of Dem cheating in 2020 and 2022 if you take a look at surveys on the matter. That is one of the reasons that the Jan 6 crap is falling flat with the general public.
Posted by: Shenanigans
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No indication that is so in the swing states EV data that I have looked at. Distrust in EV and absentee ballots is at a peak for the GOP voters this year. Dunno about independents but they are somewhat aware of Dem cheating in 2020 and 2022 if you take a look at surveys on the matter. That is one of the reasons that the Jan 6 crap is falling flat with the general public.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (ctrM5)
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3) The big early voting lead that Trump is getting is cannibalizing his day-of vote total, and the enthusiasm/momentum we're seeing is really just the same people who supported him in 2016 and 2020, but now a larger portion of them are more willing to vocally say so.
If all three of those are true, I think Kamala wins handily.
If two of those three are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Kamala win
If one of those are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Trump win
If none of those are true, I think the race is what it "FEELS" like, and that's a big Trump win
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (pZ0Mr)
But in a state like VA, if Rs are voting early more, overall vote is EVEN more down for Ds from 2020 early voting (since I don't think we release D v R v I)...with only day of voting and no fraud allowed after tomorrow, that's gonna be REALLY hard to make up on election day. Dems have to bus voters in that are unenthusiastic...a hard sell on a really nice warm day (which VA will be having Tuesday)...
If all three of those are true, I think Kamala wins handily.
If two of those three are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Kamala win
If one of those are true, I think it's a toss-up/lean-Trump win
If none of those are true, I think the race is what it "FEELS" like, and that's a big Trump win
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:40 AM (pZ0Mr)
But in a state like VA, if Rs are voting early more, overall vote is EVEN more down for Ds from 2020 early voting (since I don't think we release D v R v I)...with only day of voting and no fraud allowed after tomorrow, that's gonna be REALLY hard to make up on election day. Dems have to bus voters in that are unenthusiastic...a hard sell on a really nice warm day (which VA will be having Tuesday)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (exHjb)
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Changing the sheets on a king sized bed with 2 Savannah Cats should be an Olympic sport.
I'm amazed you could train the cats to help you change the sheets.
I'm amazed you could train the cats to help you change the sheets.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (lUFok)
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CBS Detroit.
Holy crap.
There a lifelong Republican who can't vote for the evil that is Trump and supports Harris.
All is lost....
Holy crap.
There a lifelong Republican who can't vote for the evil that is Trump and supports Harris.
All is lost....
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (jvJvP)
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Jim Farley doesn't even drive a Ford. He has a Chinese EV.
Posted by: fd at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (vFG9F)
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You are being silly. PA did not even have early voting until 2020 and a lot of GOP voters prefer voting election day. EV efforts were to get out the low propensity voters rather than the 3/3 types.
That information is out there so you might actually want to delve into what is actually available now on twitter which is a lot more than it used to be thanks to Elon.
That's a bit strong. The fact is that GOP early voting is a new phenomenon, and we don't really know how it will play out. It's tough to wait, but wait we must.
That information is out there so you might actually want to delve into what is actually available now on twitter which is a lot more than it used to be thanks to Elon.
That's a bit strong. The fact is that GOP early voting is a new phenomenon, and we don't really know how it will play out. It's tough to wait, but wait we must.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (xCA6C)
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Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers.
But what are absolute numbers that we receive from people who have never been honest and accurate and have no incentive to be honest and accurate and cannot be audited?
But what are absolute numbers that we receive from people who have never been honest and accurate and have no incentive to be honest and accurate and cannot be audited?
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 11:44 AM (HeV6l)
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So many good potential names for EVs.
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024 11:44 AM (0RLWl)
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For all his faults, the best thing Glenn Beck ever did was be the guy to expose Van Jones' past in 2009 and cut off his political ascent at the knees. The media was forced to report on what Beck revealed, and Jones got fired from the position as Obama's "green jobs czar" and it made him untouchable for a cabinet position. He'd be a lot higher up in the ranks, and a lot more dangerous, it that hadn't happened.
"Jones was under fire for his past affiliation with the 9/11 conspiracy “truthers” and for calling Republicans “a**holes” in a video before he was appointed to the Obama administration. Republicans had also begun using him to escalate criticism of the administration’s deployment of czars across the policy landscape, saying that they were being used to avoid Senate scrutiny of appointees.
More problematic for the White House, perhaps, was the fact that Jones’ controversial statements fit snugly into the narrative woven by some conservative critics of Obama as a dangerous leftist, a critique that goes back to the campaign and was based as much on his past work as a community organizer and associations with the likes of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers"
"Jones was under fire for his past affiliation with the 9/11 conspiracy “truthers” and for calling Republicans “a**holes” in a video before he was appointed to the Obama administration. Republicans had also begun using him to escalate criticism of the administration’s deployment of czars across the policy landscape, saying that they were being used to avoid Senate scrutiny of appointees.
More problematic for the White House, perhaps, was the fact that Jones’ controversial statements fit snugly into the narrative woven by some conservative critics of Obama as a dangerous leftist, a critique that goes back to the campaign and was based as much on his past work as a community organizer and associations with the likes of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers"
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:44 AM (QAK8m)
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Can you honestly say you have ever met ANY woman for Kamala who can stay silent about it? Come on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (wyMQY)
I agree. Thus, my point about feeling like I'm being "psi-op'd"
I don't buy any of it. It feels manufactured. It feels like the media is trying to create a narrative, but behind the scenes there's panic and finger-pointing going on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:42 AM (wyMQY)
I agree. Thus, my point about feeling like I'm being "psi-op'd"
I don't buy any of it. It feels manufactured. It feels like the media is trying to create a narrative, but behind the scenes there's panic and finger-pointing going on.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:44 AM (pZ0Mr)
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AAAAaaand just like that - we're losing PA.
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
Sorry, but that is a hysterical overreaction to what are good numbers.
Maybe pasting the entire tweet would have been a good idea?
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:38 AM (IVDcZ)
Sorry, but that is a hysterical overreaction to what are good numbers.
Maybe pasting the entire tweet would have been a good idea?
PA Ballots RETURNED:
Dems: 947,214 (56.1%) +29,318 from 10.31
GOP: 553,158 (32.8%) +23,072 from 10.31
Indie: 188,179(10.9%) +10,455 from 10.31
Change from end of 2022:
GOP: +289,508
Dem: +89,934
Change from end of 2020:
GOP: -65,080
Dem: -771,512
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (d9fT1)
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BabylonBee: New 'Kamalexa' Edition Of Amazon Echo Will Just Ramble For 10 Minutes Without Ever Answering Your Questions
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (RHGPo)
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]i]Isnt Alita a cartoon?
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (nBRaJ)
Alite, Ca3SiO5, is one of the principle elements of cement.
Do you know how long I have been hoarding that bit of critical information for when it would be relevant?
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:26 AM (nBRaJ)
Alite, Ca3SiO5, is one of the principle elements of cement.
Do you know how long I have been hoarding that bit of critical information for when it would be relevant?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (D7oie)
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221 Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
it ain't over 'til it's over
it ain't over 'til it's over
Posted by: cackle 160 million at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (sGtp+)
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257 So many good potential names for EVs.
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
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Melt Down?
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
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Melt Down?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (AdHga)
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Dems have to bus voters in that are unenthusiastic...a hard sell on a really nice warm day (which VA will be having Tuesday)...
People who are deterred from their most important civic duty by the weather shouldn't have the franchise.
People who are deterred from their most important civic duty by the weather shouldn't have the franchise.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
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My prediction? Pain.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (nBRaJ)
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262 Do you know how long I have been hoarding that bit of critical information for when it would be relevant?
forty-two!
forty-two!
Posted by: deep thought at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (sGtp+)
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Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
Not certain yet; the problem is treating Hezbollah like it is a responsible organization, or some kind of government. Some guy in Beirut may say "oh sure we'll withdraw and stop fighing!" and some guy out in Baalbek with a storage tunnel full of missiles may say "f that, I'm shooting everything I got." So you can't believe any promise of a cease fire or withdrawal by Hezbollah until after it is confirmed to have actually happened.
And of course the go-to trick of all of those groups is to promise that it will happen to get Israel to stand down, and then to never actually do what they say.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
Not certain yet; the problem is treating Hezbollah like it is a responsible organization, or some kind of government. Some guy in Beirut may say "oh sure we'll withdraw and stop fighing!" and some guy out in Baalbek with a storage tunnel full of missiles may say "f that, I'm shooting everything I got." So you can't believe any promise of a cease fire or withdrawal by Hezbollah until after it is confirmed to have actually happened.
And of course the go-to trick of all of those groups is to promise that it will happen to get Israel to stand down, and then to never actually do what they say.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (wyMQY)
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So many good potential names for EVs.
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
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Melt Down?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (AdHga)
Pinto II
Conflagration make me chuckle.
Inferno, wildfire (good for e-mustang?)
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Melt Down?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (AdHga)
Pinto II
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (VNX3d)
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‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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I see the retard thinks the exploding Pinto from Top Secret! or the exploding GM pickup from the Dateline fraud are representative of real life.
I'm so old, I remember when the teewee was trying to convince me that exploding *tires* were a thing because people were too dumb not to overinflate them.
I'm so old, I remember when the teewee was trying to convince me that exploding *tires* were a thing because people were too dumb not to overinflate them.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (ZiTDd)
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I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
This is exactly whats happening. I've been told I was a moron for not believing the early voting trends vs years past are indicative of overall success but here we are... nearly half a million ballots in the hole.
Our strategy this year was to do what? Do what the Democrats did in 2020 just more better? What did the Democrats early voting rates in 2020 have to do with their electoral success? You can't just seize on one element of the overall election and say "that was the reason!" Thats myopic and simplistic.
The very first rule you learn in sailboat match racing is that you'll never catch the guy in front of you if you just do the same things he's doing. Even if you do them better.
While I agree that Trump has done a much better job campaigning this cycle than in 2020, its simply not enough to overcome the dire negative emotions that have been fostered by our media and ruling class culture. Those of you that aren't surrounded by TDS every day probably don't get to see it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
This is exactly whats happening. I've been told I was a moron for not believing the early voting trends vs years past are indicative of overall success but here we are... nearly half a million ballots in the hole.
Our strategy this year was to do what? Do what the Democrats did in 2020 just more better? What did the Democrats early voting rates in 2020 have to do with their electoral success? You can't just seize on one element of the overall election and say "that was the reason!" Thats myopic and simplistic.
The very first rule you learn in sailboat match racing is that you'll never catch the guy in front of you if you just do the same things he's doing. Even if you do them better.
While I agree that Trump has done a much better job campaigning this cycle than in 2020, its simply not enough to overcome the dire negative emotions that have been fostered by our media and ruling class culture. Those of you that aren't surrounded by TDS every day probably don't get to see it.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (aHLWx)
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And if you've really been paying attention, try an electro-laser.) And that would, indeed, be a "thunderbolt of the Gods," one that could leave a vast planetary scar on the surface of Mars, or, perhaps, even blow up an entire planet.
*
That's no moon...
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024
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How about an X-ray laser?
*
That's no moon...
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024
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How about an X-ray laser?
Posted by: Louis Wu at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)
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265 Dems have to bus voters in that are unenthusiastic...a hard sell on a really nice warm day (which VA will be having Tuesday)...
People who are deterred from their most important civic duty by the weather shouldn't have the franchise.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
Enthusiasm always plays a role in whether you bother for LIVs...with EV down in VA, will folks bother for someone they don't actually like? We'll see Tuesday..
People who are deterred from their most important civic duty by the weather shouldn't have the franchise.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
Enthusiasm always plays a role in whether you bother for LIVs...with EV down in VA, will folks bother for someone they don't actually like? We'll see Tuesday..
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (exHjb)
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270 184
‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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How does someone see the numbers I posted that actually showed GOP numbers slightly down from 2020 and come away with that saying, "Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?
‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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How does someone see the numbers I posted that actually showed GOP numbers slightly down from 2020 and come away with that saying, "Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
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Republicans had also begun using him to escalate criticism of the administration’s deployment of czars across the policy landscape, saying that they were being used to avoid Senate scrutiny of appointees.
Unpossible. I have been told repeatedly by the Dems that they don't do "czars".
Unpossible. I have been told repeatedly by the Dems that they don't do "czars".
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
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272 This is exactly whats happening. I've been told I was a moron for not believing the early voting trends vs years past are indicative of overall success but here we are... nearly half a million ballots in the hole.
Our strategy this year was to do what? Do what the Democrats did in 2020 just more better? What did the Democrats early voting rates in 2020 have to do with their electoral success? You can't just seize on one element of the overall election and say "that was the reason!" Thats myopic and simplistic.
The very first rule you learn in sailboat match racing is that you'll never catch the guy in front of you if you just do the same things he's doing. Even if you do them better.
While I agree that Trump has done a much better job campaigning this cycle than in 2020, its simply not enough to overcome the dire negative emotions that have been fostered by our media and ruling class culture. Those of you that aren't surrounded by TDS every day probably don't get to see it.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (aHLWx)
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It. Is. Not. Happening.
GOP EV numbers are flat from 20, not up.
Our strategy this year was to do what? Do what the Democrats did in 2020 just more better? What did the Democrats early voting rates in 2020 have to do with their electoral success? You can't just seize on one element of the overall election and say "that was the reason!" Thats myopic and simplistic.
The very first rule you learn in sailboat match racing is that you'll never catch the guy in front of you if you just do the same things he's doing. Even if you do them better.
While I agree that Trump has done a much better job campaigning this cycle than in 2020, its simply not enough to overcome the dire negative emotions that have been fostered by our media and ruling class culture. Those of you that aren't surrounded by TDS every day probably don't get to see it.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 11:46 AM (aHLWx)
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It. Is. Not. Happening.
GOP EV numbers are flat from 20, not up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
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I never thought PA was in play the same as I never think NY or NJ is in play. I’ve been hoping for other swing state miracles. Would be nice to be wrong.
(Electing Fetterman easily is part of my thought process)
(Electing Fetterman easily is part of my thought process)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (D6PGr)
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249 Aren't you tiny and single?
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (p4NUW)
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ha ha funny
great - amazing - very recent numbers and yet here the same eeyoring?
you guys are very predictable
there was a rally at the college in West Chester yesterday. totally insane amounts of people and a TON of the students - girls included!
but means nothing
lol Everyone Loves Kommie!
great - amazing - very recent numbers and yet here the same eeyoring?
you guys are very predictable
there was a rally at the college in West Chester yesterday. totally insane amounts of people and a TON of the students - girls included!
but means nothing
lol Everyone Loves Kommie!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (s3qiR)
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Teacher unions will have a cow.
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
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"Trends or not, absolute numbers are absolute numbers. The Dems are DOUBLING our numbers nearly.
Posted by: Defenestratus"
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In 2020, it was 75% Biden, 25% Trump.
Biden "won" by 81,000 votes.
Posted by: Defenestratus"
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In 2020, it was 75% Biden, 25% Trump.
Biden "won" by 81,000 votes.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (i7Q7S)
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279 249 Aren't you tiny and single?
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (p4NUW)
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Ah, but you are tiny.
Twin bed, then!
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (p4NUW)
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Ah, but you are tiny.
Twin bed, then!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (GBKbO)
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I can remember years ago discussions about how hard it is to flip a vehicle over.
The current cars are designed to be so light that flipping one over seems to be a trivial task.
The current cars are designed to be so light that flipping one over seems to be a trivial task.
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (RHGPo)
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for the record, I think Trump has this in the bag, but that's based on the assumption that people get out and vote like crazy on election day. I think it'll happen. I know there's concern about women outvoting men and women being so strongly for Kamala, etc.
I think turnout is going to be massive for Trump and I think he wins every swing state and half the "suddenly purple" states.
My map as of now:
https://tinyurl.com/dk8pjynv
I think turnout is going to be massive for Trump and I think he wins every swing state and half the "suddenly purple" states.
My map as of now:
https://tinyurl.com/dk8pjynv
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (pZ0Mr)
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they are MASSIVE lemons
just fyi I know people with this car and it's basically never not had problems
I would honestly stay away from anything VW makes. VW is ALSO on a death spiral, and well deserved
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (s3qiR)
My Audi has the VW 3L diesel, its the last of the dieselgate cars...
It's excellent.
If the EPA would allow euro diesels here, they would sell, gobs of torque and 35 mph average since I acquired it in 2021. Just eats highway.
Might be the perfect commuter vehicle for highway driving.
just fyi I know people with this car and it's basically never not had problems
I would honestly stay away from anything VW makes. VW is ALSO on a death spiral, and well deserved
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:11 AM (s3qiR)
My Audi has the VW 3L diesel, its the last of the dieselgate cars...
It's excellent.
If the EPA would allow euro diesels here, they would sell, gobs of torque and 35 mph average since I acquired it in 2021. Just eats highway.
Might be the perfect commuter vehicle for highway driving.
Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (53oGX)
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If D registration numbers are down, it seems like a safe assumption that Independent Democrat leaners are also not showing up, and probably at greater proportion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Possibly. Back in the day, you could try to estimate that by cross referencing top ten problems facing the US with partisan id including leaners. In any particular state, you can get idiosyncratic responses from the electorate that have little to do with the national campaigning issues. But hard to decipher even after the election because most of the exit polling is more on the national basis and issues rather than idiosyncratic local issues.
The disaster in NC is one such example of something idiosyncratic that could affect indy votes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Possibly. Back in the day, you could try to estimate that by cross referencing top ten problems facing the US with partisan id including leaners. In any particular state, you can get idiosyncratic responses from the electorate that have little to do with the national campaigning issues. But hard to decipher even after the election because most of the exit polling is more on the national basis and issues rather than idiosyncratic local issues.
The disaster in NC is one such example of something idiosyncratic that could affect indy votes.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (ctrM5)
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>>> Capitol cities often get impossible to govern after a century or two of entitlement - that's why Constantine decided to build a whole new Capitol and get out of Rome completely.
And then it was no one's business but the Turks.
And then it was no one's business but the Turks.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (QAK8m)
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You are being silly. PA did not even have early voting until 2020 and a lot of GOP voters prefer voting election day. EV efforts were to get out the low propensity voters rather than the 3/3 types.
That's a bit strong. The fact is that GOP early voting is a new phenomenon, and we don't really know how it will play out. It's tough to wait, but wait we must.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (xCA6C)
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I'm on the same page. Nobody knows how this will end up because it hasn't been done before. We have no actual results or even data points. We have two theories: (1) early voting cannibalizes election-day voting such that the total number of GOP votes is about the same and (2) early voting is mostly "new" votes that wouldn't have voted on election day, so when the usual election day red wave hits, the GOP will end up with many more votes. I think (1) is more likely, but that's just my gut.
The much more interesting actual data point is how much lower Dumocrap early voting is. If these odious dickswaggers aren't voting early, I doubt they'll get off their lazy asses and vote on ED.
That's a bit strong. The fact is that GOP early voting is a new phenomenon, and we don't really know how it will play out. It's tough to wait, but wait we must.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM (xCA6C)
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I'm on the same page. Nobody knows how this will end up because it hasn't been done before. We have no actual results or even data points. We have two theories: (1) early voting cannibalizes election-day voting such that the total number of GOP votes is about the same and (2) early voting is mostly "new" votes that wouldn't have voted on election day, so when the usual election day red wave hits, the GOP will end up with many more votes. I think (1) is more likely, but that's just my gut.
The much more interesting actual data point is how much lower Dumocrap early voting is. If these odious dickswaggers aren't voting early, I doubt they'll get off their lazy asses and vote on ED.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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How does someone see the numbers I posted that actually showed GOP numbers slightly down from 2020 and come away with that saying, "Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?
those of us in demorat controlled jurisdictions know damn right well to show up on election day. We don't trust the county PTB to count our vote. My surmise is that a big proportion of Trump votes in the Philly collar will show up on November 5. Because our counties have all flipped to the devil party.
those of us in demorat controlled jurisdictions know damn right well to show up on election day. We don't trust the county PTB to count our vote. My surmise is that a big proportion of Trump votes in the Philly collar will show up on November 5. Because our counties have all flipped to the devil party.
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Victorians at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (xCA6C)
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In a new commercial for the device, a woman asks Kamalexa what the weather is like for the day.
"Weather," Kamalexa responds. "Weather is big. Weather is exciting. Did you know files are stored in the cloud? Your files, they're all up there, up in the cloud. Hahaha. So, the climate is changing, and that's bad. I am not Donald Trump."
"Weather," Kamalexa responds. "Weather is big. Weather is exciting. Did you know files are stored in the cloud? Your files, they're all up there, up in the cloud. Hahaha. So, the climate is changing, and that's bad. I am not Donald Trump."
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 01, 2024 11:50 AM (RHGPo)
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Changing the sheets on a king sized bed with 2 Savannah Cats of any kind should be an Olympic sport.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024
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Edited for accuracy, Piper
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024
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Edited for accuracy, Piper
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:50 AM (J2vNu)
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"but here we are... nearly half a million ballots in the hole."
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In 2020, it was 1.1 million and in 2020 it was 685,000.
You're missing the point here.
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In 2020, it was 1.1 million and in 2020 it was 685,000.
You're missing the point here.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:50 AM (i7Q7S)
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Gday!
When my beloved 2008 Ford expedition, it's 225000 miles in and counting finally, it's unsustainable. I suppose, I will replace it with a toyota or nissan pickup... Kids are grown and gone. Don't need the big war wagon any more... it's been a hell of a truck...
When my beloved 2008 Ford expedition, it's 225000 miles in and counting finally, it's unsustainable. I suppose, I will replace it with a toyota or nissan pickup... Kids are grown and gone. Don't need the big war wagon any more... it's been a hell of a truck...
Posted by: Bruce at November 01, 2024 11:50 AM (rzQek)
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Israel has defeated Hezbollah. Defeated.
The Hez have agreed to implementation of UN resolution 1701, which requires them to withdraw to north of the Litani river. They appear to have dropped their previous insistence that a Gaza truce must come first.
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced. Given that UNIFIL and the Lebanese government have never enforced 1701 before, this is only reasonable.
Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
But I have been assured by the smartest people who have deep ties to the IC and international community that Israel is committing suicide by continuing the war (/bitter snark )
The Hez have agreed to implementation of UN resolution 1701, which requires them to withdraw to north of the Litani river. They appear to have dropped their previous insistence that a Gaza truce must come first.
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced. Given that UNIFIL and the Lebanese government have never enforced 1701 before, this is only reasonable.
Israel has achieved a striking and decisive victory here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 11:41 AM (paSBy)
But I have been assured by the smartest people who have deep ties to the IC and international community that Israel is committing suicide by continuing the war (/bitter snark )
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 11:50 AM (D7oie)
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281 Teacher unions will have a cow.
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
Ah well, about a decade+ too late for me...but would be nice for the last ones..
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
Ah well, about a decade+ too late for me...but would be nice for the last ones..
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (exHjb)
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Meh, who has momentum? Can anyone answer that?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (AdHga)
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Aren't you tiny and single?
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (p4NUW)
You've got the two cats. This is technically a polycule.
Save space. Buy a child's size bed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:43 AM
I am not single. I just refuse to get married again. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (p4NUW)
You've got the two cats. This is technically a polycule.
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (1Yy3c)
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281 Teacher unions will have a cow.
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl
I'd prefer whatever dollars were going into the education system gets taken away and goes directly to the family.
Trump promises yearly $10,000 tax write-off for homeschooling families (that's $10,000 PER child!)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl
I'd prefer whatever dollars were going into the education system gets taken away and goes directly to the family.
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (jvJvP)
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Alite, Ca3SiO5, is one of the principle elements of cement.
Do you know how long I have been hoarding that bit of critical information for when it would be relevant?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (D7oie)
I shudder to think.
I had a Casio. And I just learned that polyoxometalates are a class of chemicals that can have up to 40 or more Oxygen atoms which seems like a lot to me.
Do you know how long I have been hoarding that bit of critical information for when it would be relevant?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 11:45 AM (D7oie)
I shudder to think.
I had a Casio. And I just learned that polyoxometalates are a class of chemicals that can have up to 40 or more Oxygen atoms which seems like a lot to me.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (nBRaJ)
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VOTE TRUMP!
Posted by: Paul at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (omuEe)
Posted by: Don Black at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (/7KEl)
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298 Meh, who has momentum? Can anyone answer that?
here in SE PA - Definitely TRUMP
this is different
I have never seen anything like this here
here in SE PA - Definitely TRUMP
this is different
I have never seen anything like this here
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (s3qiR)
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I've seen a few electric vehicles around in Wyoming in the past few years including a Tesla cybertruck last week. All with WY plates. I just shake my head sadly. The owners must either hate life, or be rich enough to own a 4wd gas powered vehicle in addition to their sparkNpark.
Posted by: Knights In White Spackle at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (Ybyk2)
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If these odious dickswaggers aren't voting early, I doubt they'll get off their lazy asses and vote on ED.
I saw Odious Dickswaggers open for Thelonious Monk at the Montreux Jazz Festival.
I saw Odious Dickswaggers open for Thelonious Monk at the Montreux Jazz Festival.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (xCA6C)
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for the record, I think Trump has this in the bag, but that's based on the assumption that people get out and vote like crazy on election day.
people voted like crazy for Trump in 2020. This year will be even more of a Trump turnout. I showed up at the polling place at 10 a.m. and the line went out the door to the parking log. This year I'm voting as soon as the poll opens, 7 a.m., and I'm sure there will be a line then as well.
people voted like crazy for Trump in 2020. This year will be even more of a Trump turnout. I showed up at the polling place at 10 a.m. and the line went out the door to the parking log. This year I'm voting as soon as the poll opens, 7 a.m., and I'm sure there will be a line then as well.
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (dCxaZ)
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295 Gday!
When my beloved 2008 Ford expedition, it's 225000 miles in and counting finally, it's unsustainable. I suppose, I will replace it with a toyota or nissan pickup... Kids are grown and gone. Don't need the big war wagon any more... it's been a hell of a truck...
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I do like the looks of the Expedition. It looks classy.
When my beloved 2008 Ford expedition, it's 225000 miles in and counting finally, it's unsustainable. I suppose, I will replace it with a toyota or nissan pickup... Kids are grown and gone. Don't need the big war wagon any more... it's been a hell of a truck...
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I do like the looks of the Expedition. It looks classy.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (AdHga)
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How about an X-ray laser?
Posted by: Louis Wu at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)
Those exist. Decades ago nuke explosion through metal rods were used to generate them.
Now gamma ray lasers...
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How about an X-ray laser?
Posted by: Louis Wu at November 01, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)
Those exist. Decades ago nuke explosion through metal rods were used to generate them.
Now gamma ray lasers...
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (0RLWl)
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TJM, I saw a headline today on Yahoo that the Daily Daddario has had another kid.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (v6JzV)
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While out this morning, I saw a garbage truck with a yuge Trump flag. Also, a blast from the past, a lady with good ol' Trumpy Bear in one of those papoose baby carriers.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (gm9Sb)
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310 TJM, I saw a headline today on Yahoo that the Daily Daddario has had another kid.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (v6JzV)
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Good for her, I guess.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (v6JzV)
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Good for her, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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srael has defeated Hezbollah. Defeated.
[ ... ]
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced.
I don't see why Israel should accept anything from Hezbollah (or Hamas) less than a full unconditional surrender.
[ ... ]
The major sticking point now is that Israel rightly insists on being able to enter Lebanon at will to insure that 1701 is enforced.
I don't see why Israel should accept anything from Hezbollah (or Hamas) less than a full unconditional surrender.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 01, 2024 11:53 AM (/y8xj)
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yesterday. totally insane amounts of people and a TON of the students - girls included!
but means nothing
lol Everyone Loves Kommie!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (s3qiR)
Right; rallies mean nothing, early voting data means nothing-- all that matters is the story the media is pitching, and based on that, we ded. The framework is all in place for a puke-making "inspiring" story of how a late-breaking surge of women and independents saved Kamala in MI, WI, and PA. The votes will be fake, like last time, but all that matters is the "official" story, and if Twitter under Musk tries to question it, look for Musk to be indicted for voting-law "violations" within a few months.
but means nothing
lol Everyone Loves Kommie!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 11:48 AM (s3qiR)
Right; rallies mean nothing, early voting data means nothing-- all that matters is the story the media is pitching, and based on that, we ded. The framework is all in place for a puke-making "inspiring" story of how a late-breaking surge of women and independents saved Kamala in MI, WI, and PA. The votes will be fake, like last time, but all that matters is the "official" story, and if Twitter under Musk tries to question it, look for Musk to be indicted for voting-law "violations" within a few months.
Posted by: Wiese at November 01, 2024 11:53 AM (1pand)
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270 184
‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
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They have done analysis on the early votes and found the vast majority to be LPV (low propensity voters) those that are first timers or infrequent voters. They seem to be confident the GOP is not cannibalizing the vote.
‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
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They have done analysis on the early votes and found the vast majority to be LPV (low propensity voters) those that are first timers or infrequent voters. They seem to be confident the GOP is not cannibalizing the vote.
Posted by: Wardo at November 01, 2024 11:53 AM (WKgpm)
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Now gamma ray lasers...
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024
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The Effect of Gamma Ray Lasers on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024
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The Effect of Gamma Ray Lasers on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)
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The Harris campaign planned on having a 500,000 vote lead in PA when early voting closed.
Their ceiling is now 420,000.
Their ceiling is now 420,000.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:54 AM (i7Q7S)
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I think we're moving into the 'Oh shit we're gonna lose' phase
or am I misreading things
Posted by: Don Black at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (/7KEl)
Us "we" or them "we"?
I voted yesterday. Considering everybody I vote for loses that might be a bad sign for Trump.
In that case I probably should have voted for Kamala, right? :B
or am I misreading things
Posted by: Don Black at November 01, 2024 11:52 AM (/7KEl)
Us "we" or them "we"?
I voted yesterday. Considering everybody I vote for loses that might be a bad sign for Trump.
In that case I probably should have voted for Kamala, right? :B
Posted by: Robert at November 01, 2024 11:54 AM (1Yy3c)
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GM received $52 billion from the U.S. government, but only $6.7 billion of this amount was considered a loan. The company already paid back $2 billion, so this $4.7 billion is the last payment.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 11:55 AM (D6PGr)
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While I agree that Trump has done a much better job campaigning this cycle than in 2020, its simply not enough to overcome the dire negative emotions that have been fostered by our media and ruling class culture. Those of you that aren't surrounded by TDS every day probably don't get to see it.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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New England is not representative politically or even socially of the US and represents a shrinking portion of the electorate--you are by and large older, whiter, more education credentials, fewer people coming in, and represents a shrinking society mired in traditionalism and its economy reduced to services like education, finance, etc.
Resembles England more than the rest of the US.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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New England is not representative politically or even socially of the US and represents a shrinking portion of the electorate--you are by and large older, whiter, more education credentials, fewer people coming in, and represents a shrinking society mired in traditionalism and its economy reduced to services like education, finance, etc.
Resembles England more than the rest of the US.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 11:55 AM (ctrM5)
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. Also, a blast from the past, a lady with good ol' Trumpy Bear in one of those papoose baby carriers.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 01, 2024
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How come those aren't being hawked on TV and radio ads this time?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 01, 2024
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How come those aren't being hawked on TV and radio ads this time?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 01, 2024 11:55 AM (J2vNu)
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>>> https://tinyurl.com/dk8pjynv
I think you're far too optimistic on Minnesota. Even the sainted Reagan couldn't make them see sense! But I'll hope your map comes true.
I really, REALLY hope he also snags the popular vote. They will shut up a lot of the left about "muh illegitimate president since he didn't win the popular."
I think you're far too optimistic on Minnesota. Even the sainted Reagan couldn't make them see sense! But I'll hope your map comes true.
I really, REALLY hope he also snags the popular vote. They will shut up a lot of the left about "muh illegitimate president since he didn't win the popular."
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 11:55 AM (QAK8m)
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I would not be surprised if we secretly have Gasers in orbit,
toss in some Masers too for a good time...
toss in some Masers too for a good time...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 11:55 AM (TGPs7)
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Also, a blast from the past, a lady with good ol' Trumpy Bear in one of those papoose baby carriers.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 01, 2024
++++
Spooky
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 01, 2024
++++
Spooky
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:56 AM (HnUIn)
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@278
>>I never thought PA was in play the same as I never think NY or NJ is in play. I’ve been hoping for other swing state miracles. Would be nice to be wrong.
As was stated, Trump can win by converting Ga, Nv and Va, all have Republican Governors, all have made efforts to clean up their elections, so that's his best shot at a win.
As noted, Pa is a corrupt dirty state and has hundreds of thousands of extra voter registrations it can leverage to arrive at any number they need to push Kamblabla and here retard marxist VP over the finish line.
So again, Trump can, he's just not going to do it with Pa.
>>I never thought PA was in play the same as I never think NY or NJ is in play. I’ve been hoping for other swing state miracles. Would be nice to be wrong.
As was stated, Trump can win by converting Ga, Nv and Va, all have Republican Governors, all have made efforts to clean up their elections, so that's his best shot at a win.
As noted, Pa is a corrupt dirty state and has hundreds of thousands of extra voter registrations it can leverage to arrive at any number they need to push Kamblabla and here retard marxist VP over the finish line.
So again, Trump can, he's just not going to do it with Pa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 11:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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325 So again, Trump can, he's just not going to do it with Pa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 11:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
We'll see. Their cheerleaders are quite confident.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 11:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
We'll see. Their cheerleaders are quite confident.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 11:57 AM (L/fGl)
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And yet, Ford is promoting a Ford Ranger EV pickup for 2027. While their CEO has been driving around in, and praising, a China EV for months.
https://bit.ly/4hrCMih
https://bit.ly/4hrCMih
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 01, 2024 11:57 AM (P5BPp)
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Our entertainment options keep getting better and better.
From Deadline.
Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz will guest on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Monday, the night before the election, in an interview that was taped earlier today.
One of the comments.
This is a smart move. Colbert has dozens of viewers.
From Deadline.
Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz will guest on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Monday, the night before the election, in an interview that was taped earlier today.
One of the comments.
This is a smart move. Colbert has dozens of viewers.
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 11:58 AM (jvJvP)
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Still a massive advantage to Dums in total ballots returned, though. You seem to think the GOP will make this up on election day. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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But you have no proof of that, and in fact what little proof you might glean from this is that the dems are not nearly as motivated as before, where as the GOP early vote total against 2022 is up vs a 2000 election where everyone voted early almost at command. While the electorate of the parties is in a state of flux, the almost civic minded must vote mentality still exists among the MAGA groups, even if they were not regular voters before. It is because they think their vote matters now, and they are pissed as hell.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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But you have no proof of that, and in fact what little proof you might glean from this is that the dems are not nearly as motivated as before, where as the GOP early vote total against 2022 is up vs a 2000 election where everyone voted early almost at command. While the electorate of the parties is in a state of flux, the almost civic minded must vote mentality still exists among the MAGA groups, even if they were not regular voters before. It is because they think their vote matters now, and they are pissed as hell.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 01, 2024 11:59 AM (GZYu7)
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I see that Operational Demoralize is in full effect this weekend. Imagine the level of psychopathy is takes to be a leftwinger posting b.s. on rightwing websites in order to convince them "it's over, man." I can't imagine going on to leftwing websites and spending all weekend posting similar crap. That would make me a complete whack job.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at November 01, 2024 11:59 AM (qUkBO)
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330 But you have no proof of that, and in fact what little proof you might glean from this is that the dems are not nearly as motivated as before, where as the GOP early vote total against 2022 is up vs a 2000 election where everyone voted early almost at command. While the electorate of the parties is in a state of flux, the almost civic minded must vote mentality still exists among the MAGA groups, even if they were not regular voters before. It is because they think their vote matters now, and they are pissed as hell.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 01, 2024 11:59 AM (GZYu7)
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The best comparison right now is, I think, this:
R's are voting like it's a presidential election.
D's are voting like it's a midterm.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 01, 2024 11:59 AM (GZYu7)
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The best comparison right now is, I think, this:
R's are voting like it's a presidential election.
D's are voting like it's a midterm.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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All of this EV start-up/shut-down business is the result of shitty management. There was never a case for EVs to be anything other that special-purpose vehicles. Basically a golf cart on steroids limited to urban use and as a second vehicle because when it gets down to it you really do need a normal car.
But an entire industry convinced itself this was the future.
And now they and we are paying for it.
It was always stupid but it was always someone else's money, until it wasn't and then when they need other peoples money, customers, buying them, it became obvious that the case didn't exist.
God's of the Copybook Headings, writ extra large.
But an entire industry convinced itself this was the future.
And now they and we are paying for it.
It was always stupid but it was always someone else's money, until it wasn't and then when they need other peoples money, customers, buying them, it became obvious that the case didn't exist.
God's of the Copybook Headings, writ extra large.
Posted by: pawn at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (QB+5g)
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How is VA doing ? What are the polls (that are all BS) saying ??
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (V13WU)
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This is a smart move. Colbert has dozens of viewers.
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 11:58 AM (jvJvP)
He's been gaining viewers?
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 11:58 AM (jvJvP)
He's been gaining viewers?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (VNX3d)
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I believe in the last earnings report Ford said they lose just under $40k per electric vehicle they make.
How on Earth do shareholders go along with this?
The funny irony is a huge amount Tesla's revenue (and Elon Musks wealth) is all the other car companies buying mileage credits from him. The Green movement is bankrolling Republicans.
How on Earth do shareholders go along with this?
The funny irony is a huge amount Tesla's revenue (and Elon Musks wealth) is all the other car companies buying mileage credits from him. The Green movement is bankrolling Republicans.
Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (wMRY8)
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I have seen the future and it sucks!
Someone really needs to explain to lefties that if you get too hysterical, people stop listening to you. Actually, nahhhhh, keep it up.
Someone really needs to explain to lefties that if you get too hysterical, people stop listening to you. Actually, nahhhhh, keep it up.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (xCA6C)
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I have seen the future and it sucks!
https://is.gd/D5fvP3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
They just cannot move on from the "Republicans will bring on Armageddon" theme. No different from the little girl with the flower in 1964.
https://is.gd/D5fvP3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
They just cannot move on from the "Republicans will bring on Armageddon" theme. No different from the little girl with the flower in 1964.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (v6JzV)
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Look at it another way;
2016: Trump 62m votes / Hillary 65m votes
2020: Trump 74m votes / Biden 81m votes
Does anyone believe Kamala will exceed Biden's 2020 vote total, considering how D voter registration is provably down across the board this year?
Meanwhile, there is ample reason to think Trump will improve on his 2020 vote total, considering how the GOP voter registration is way up this year.
So if Kamala performs closer to Hillary's numbers, and Trump rises, we might be looking at something like Trump 78m and Kamala 70m.
Granted, popular vote isn't the election, but regardless of the media's hinting at it, it is inconceivable that Trump would win the popular vote and lose the electoral college.
Then again, Democrats told us they were going to steal it in 2020 ("Trump vote will be big on election night and then a late Biden surge will come in late, putting him over the top"), so maybe the media is telegraphing it for us again ("Trump is doing better in blue states he won't win, so he could possibly win the popular vote and still lose the electoral college by losing the rust belt").
I don't buy it, but there it is
2016: Trump 62m votes / Hillary 65m votes
2020: Trump 74m votes / Biden 81m votes
Does anyone believe Kamala will exceed Biden's 2020 vote total, considering how D voter registration is provably down across the board this year?
Meanwhile, there is ample reason to think Trump will improve on his 2020 vote total, considering how the GOP voter registration is way up this year.
So if Kamala performs closer to Hillary's numbers, and Trump rises, we might be looking at something like Trump 78m and Kamala 70m.
Granted, popular vote isn't the election, but regardless of the media's hinting at it, it is inconceivable that Trump would win the popular vote and lose the electoral college.
Then again, Democrats told us they were going to steal it in 2020 ("Trump vote will be big on election night and then a late Biden surge will come in late, putting him over the top"), so maybe the media is telegraphing it for us again ("Trump is doing better in blue states he won't win, so he could possibly win the popular vote and still lose the electoral college by losing the rust belt").
I don't buy it, but there it is
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (pZ0Mr)
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‘ . I fear that all the GOP has done is taken election-day votes and turned them into early votes.’
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
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Y'all may not know it but your voting history is public including which primary or party that you register with. Campaigns get data dumps at least daily if not quicker over who has voted and who has not plus whether they have voted in the past three general elections, two general elections, primaries, local elections, or never voted at all etc.
Instead of the stupid and pointless robocalling, blanket radio and tv ads, and signage, modern campaigns use micro marketing techniques to specifically use social media to aim ads at people, social influencers that people follow, and targeted mailers personalized to that person's interests etc.
They then follow up with in person calling to make sure that people have voted, offer rides to the polls if they have no way to get there, offer to assist in absentee ballot for shutins, and so on.
Most of the media pundits blathering around like braying sheep about politics know nothing about politics only optics.
Same here. I haven’t yet figured out how the early voting implies that our totals will be higher than the Rats’ totals.
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Y'all may not know it but your voting history is public including which primary or party that you register with. Campaigns get data dumps at least daily if not quicker over who has voted and who has not plus whether they have voted in the past three general elections, two general elections, primaries, local elections, or never voted at all etc.
Instead of the stupid and pointless robocalling, blanket radio and tv ads, and signage, modern campaigns use micro marketing techniques to specifically use social media to aim ads at people, social influencers that people follow, and targeted mailers personalized to that person's interests etc.
They then follow up with in person calling to make sure that people have voted, offer rides to the polls if they have no way to get there, offer to assist in absentee ballot for shutins, and so on.
Most of the media pundits blathering around like braying sheep about politics know nothing about politics only optics.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Paul at November 01, 2024 11:51 AM (omuEe)
Tell me idiot,
If the Lightning was flying off the lots (and not requiring the manufacturer to PAY the dealers to take delivery of them) ... why would production be halted?
Ford didn't even try to bullshit us and say it was for "product quality assurance" or some other excuse.
They flat out said that they're matching production with demand... which is severely lacking.
And while the F150 ICE/hybrid variants have a 117 day supply, Ford won't say what the Day Supply of Lightnings are - but the Mach-E (not a mustang) is 130 days and the e-Transit van is 128 days.
So while you might get your palm sticky thinking about forcing us all into your gay little death trap coppertop golf carts... the market is telling you to fuck right the fuck off.
Tell me idiot,
If the Lightning was flying off the lots (and not requiring the manufacturer to PAY the dealers to take delivery of them) ... why would production be halted?
Ford didn't even try to bullshit us and say it was for "product quality assurance" or some other excuse.
They flat out said that they're matching production with demand... which is severely lacking.
And while the F150 ICE/hybrid variants have a 117 day supply, Ford won't say what the Day Supply of Lightnings are - but the Mach-E (not a mustang) is 130 days and the e-Transit van is 128 days.
So while you might get your palm sticky thinking about forcing us all into your gay little death trap coppertop golf carts... the market is telling you to fuck right the fuck off.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 12:01 PM (xPSlA)
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My map puts MI, AZ, NV and PA in the Steal if They Need It category.
By my calc this means Trump MUST take VA.
But even so it means he also needs WI or any of the Steal If They Need It states.
I think Trump will have also figured out he needs VA. I don't know how he gets it but it's possible.
By my calc this means Trump MUST take VA.
But even so it means he also needs WI or any of the Steal If They Need It states.
I think Trump will have also figured out he needs VA. I don't know how he gets it but it's possible.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (nBRaJ)
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The much more interesting actual data point is how much lower Dumocrap early voting is. If these odious dickswaggers aren't voting early, I doubt they'll get off their lazy asses and vote on ED.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I was told repeatedly by reliable sources that Election day is racist.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I was told repeatedly by reliable sources that Election day is racist.
Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (53oGX)
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317 The Harris campaign planned on having a 500,000 vote lead in PA when early voting closed.
Their ceiling is now 420,000.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:54 AM (i7Q7S)
With? Their printers can't keep up?
Their ceiling is now 420,000.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 11:54 AM (i7Q7S)
With? Their printers can't keep up?
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (0RLWl)
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I forgot to pull this section of the Atlantic article out and discuss it:
"In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers."
Point one: the pussyhat rioting, screaming at the sky, gangs of protestors waking the streets of NYC, the calling all his voters Nazis... if that was little D energy I don't want to see big D.
Point 2: nakedly admitting Trump was good for business. I think this article is trying to softly break it to their readers Trump might win, steel yourselves. But is also hinting they are slobbering over the idea that subscriptions will return to liberal magazines and newspapers promising to save democracy from Trump. Democrats are masochistic submissives for fear porn.
"In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers."
Point one: the pussyhat rioting, screaming at the sky, gangs of protestors waking the streets of NYC, the calling all his voters Nazis... if that was little D energy I don't want to see big D.
Point 2: nakedly admitting Trump was good for business. I think this article is trying to softly break it to their readers Trump might win, steel yourselves. But is also hinting they are slobbering over the idea that subscriptions will return to liberal magazines and newspapers promising to save democracy from Trump. Democrats are masochistic submissives for fear porn.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)
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334 How is VA doing ? What are the polls (that are all BS) saying ??
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (V13WU)
Most of them are Kamala +6-10
Surprise poll this week had it Kamala +1
Today's poll was back to 10 (51-41) - of course, that's 92 percent, and I doubt 8 percent will be 3rd party in VA...
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 12:00 PM (V13WU)
Most of them are Kamala +6-10
Surprise poll this week had it Kamala +1
Today's poll was back to 10 (51-41) - of course, that's 92 percent, and I doubt 8 percent will be 3rd party in VA...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (exHjb)
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@326
>>If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
The problem has always been the courts and getting them to undo certified election results.
The Pa SOS has already stated ahead of time that election results will not be announced on election night, so we can anticipate a couple of weeks at a minimum of jamming ballots into tabulators, and then quick certifying of election results, and then the specatcle of courts deciding nobody has any standing to sue, and voila, Kamblabla and her marxist gimp retard VP are declared the victors.
We literally saw this play out in 2020 and 2022.
So unless something dramatically changes, that's the state of things.
>>If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
The problem has always been the courts and getting them to undo certified election results.
The Pa SOS has already stated ahead of time that election results will not be announced on election night, so we can anticipate a couple of weeks at a minimum of jamming ballots into tabulators, and then quick certifying of election results, and then the specatcle of courts deciding nobody has any standing to sue, and voila, Kamblabla and her marxist gimp retard VP are declared the victors.
We literally saw this play out in 2020 and 2022.
So unless something dramatically changes, that's the state of things.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
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343 The much more interesting actual data point is how much lower Dumocrap early voting is. If these odious dickswaggers aren't voting early, I doubt they'll get off their lazy asses and vote on ED.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I was told repeatedly by reliable sources that Election day is racist.
Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (53oGX)
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Assume for a moment that 2020 was genuine, that relaxed vote by mail rules just reached millions of Democrat voters who normally don't vote.
That's the reason Biden won, we'll say.
Well, those millions...are not turning out. They generally don't anyway, but now the assumption is that while they've never voted, they did vote by mail last time, and they're going to wait in lines on election day to turn out?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 01, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I was told repeatedly by reliable sources that Election day is racist.
Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (53oGX)
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Assume for a moment that 2020 was genuine, that relaxed vote by mail rules just reached millions of Democrat voters who normally don't vote.
That's the reason Biden won, we'll say.
Well, those millions...are not turning out. They generally don't anyway, but now the assumption is that while they've never voted, they did vote by mail last time, and they're going to wait in lines on election day to turn out?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
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‘ Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?Z’
In my case, direct experience. This year was the first time ever that I voted early. I assumed that everyone would follow my lead. Are you suggesting that’s not the case?
‘ Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?Z’
In my case, direct experience. This year was the first time ever that I voted early. I assumed that everyone would follow my lead. Are you suggesting that’s not the case?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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forgot to pull this section of the Atlantic article out and discuss it:
"In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers."
Point one: the pussyhat rioting, screaming at the sky, gangs of protestors waking the streets of NYC, the calling all his voters Nazis... if that was little D energy I don't want to see big D.
Point 2: nakedly admitting Trump was good for business. I think this article is trying to softly break it to their readers Trump might win, steel yourselves. But is also hinting they are slobbering over the idea that subscriptions will return to liberal magazines and newspapers promising to save democracy from Trump. Democrats are masochistic submissives for fear porn.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)
Funny how it is self-described as small-d.
"In 2016, Trump’s surprise victory was met with a groundswell of small-d democratic energy. There were marches in the streets, and record-breaking donations to the ACLU, and waves of grassroots organizing. Subscriptions surged at newspapers committed to holding the new administration to account; books about combating tyranny became best sellers."
Point one: the pussyhat rioting, screaming at the sky, gangs of protestors waking the streets of NYC, the calling all his voters Nazis... if that was little D energy I don't want to see big D.
Point 2: nakedly admitting Trump was good for business. I think this article is trying to softly break it to their readers Trump might win, steel yourselves. But is also hinting they are slobbering over the idea that subscriptions will return to liberal magazines and newspapers promising to save democracy from Trump. Democrats are masochistic submissives for fear porn.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)
Funny how it is self-described as small-d.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon, Guilty as a Jaywalker, Free as a Bird at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (i24o9)
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If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
We'll see. Their cheerleaders are quite confident.
Elon is spending a lot of time here
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
We'll see. Their cheerleaders are quite confident.
Elon is spending a lot of time here
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)
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While the electorate of the parties is in a state of flux, the almost civic minded must vote mentality still exists among the MAGA groups, even if they were not regular voters before. It is because they think their vote matters now, and they are pissed as hell.
Black Jem, as usual you are on point with your comment.
btw I was all over the state recently for various things and I saw LIVE some of what you describe. people in central PA and even here are openly pro Trump in a way I haven't seen before. they are also super pissed off. it's a total change in the zeitgeist here.
the Left cheats her in, I don't know what will happen, but it won't be good for them. things are super shifted.
Black Jem, as usual you are on point with your comment.
btw I was all over the state recently for various things and I saw LIVE some of what you describe. people in central PA and even here are openly pro Trump in a way I haven't seen before. they are also super pissed off. it's a total change in the zeitgeist here.
the Left cheats her in, I don't know what will happen, but it won't be good for them. things are super shifted.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (s3qiR)
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331 I see that Operational Demoralize is in full effect this weekend. Imagine the level of psychopathy is takes to be a leftwinger posting b.s. on rightwing websites in order to convince them "it's over, man." I can't imagine going on to leftwing websites and spending all weekend posting similar crap. That would make me a complete whack job.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
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Some get paid, some are just doomers that can't break out of whatever psychological state they are in, and some are former banned types that frankly are mental. Those are generally like turds that will not flush and keep bobbing back up to tell us of their wisdom.
Dealt with all of that on gunboards, tech boards, etc. FUD--fear, uncertainty, and doubt is no way to live a life.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
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Some get paid, some are just doomers that can't break out of whatever psychological state they are in, and some are former banned types that frankly are mental. Those are generally like turds that will not flush and keep bobbing back up to tell us of their wisdom.
Dealt with all of that on gunboards, tech boards, etc. FUD--fear, uncertainty, and doubt is no way to live a life.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (ctrM5)
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I have seen the future and it sucks!
Someone really needs to explain to lefties that if you get too hysterical, people stop listening to you. Actually, nahhhhh, keep it up.
And, of course, all the scary stuff they accuse Trump of doing, is exactly what they're doing. Trump wants to stop free speech? Really? That's a bit rich coming from a party whose presidential nom says the government must approve speech or the speaker could go to jail.
Someone really needs to explain to lefties that if you get too hysterical, people stop listening to you. Actually, nahhhhh, keep it up.
And, of course, all the scary stuff they accuse Trump of doing, is exactly what they're doing. Trump wants to stop free speech? Really? That's a bit rich coming from a party whose presidential nom says the government must approve speech or the speaker could go to jail.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (xCA6C)
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Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year.
But they can make up for it in volume.
Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year.
But they can make up for it in volume.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (y9nCu)
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352 If the RNC legal team has any brains, PA is the center of their efforts right now.
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
yeah they're just pissing everyone here off
It'll be their ultimate test on delivering results.
yeah they're just pissing everyone here off
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (s3qiR)
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347 We literally saw this play out in 2020 and 2022.
So unless something dramatically changes, that's the state of things.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
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Oh, I know.
The challenge is getting courts beforehand. And there are some signs here and there that courts are more amenable this time (like the expanded voting in Bucks County).
Throw in some extra sauce like county-level DAs going after illegal and fraudulent registrations in the past few days, and there's some reason to hope that the hugely bigger hole that D's will have to climb out of once election day starts can't be climbed out of.
We'll see.
But, again, I think WI is more likely to turn that PA.
So unless something dramatically changes, that's the state of things.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
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Oh, I know.
The challenge is getting courts beforehand. And there are some signs here and there that courts are more amenable this time (like the expanded voting in Bucks County).
Throw in some extra sauce like county-level DAs going after illegal and fraudulent registrations in the past few days, and there's some reason to hope that the hugely bigger hole that D's will have to climb out of once election day starts can't be climbed out of.
We'll see.
But, again, I think WI is more likely to turn that PA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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(censored)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (Z8Yh2)
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You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna
I just saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to Geico.
Posted by: It's me donna
I just saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to Geico.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (v6JzV)
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>>> Y'all may not know it but your voting history is public including which primary or party that you register with
Their are liberals threatening to look up people's voting record, people they know, and if they find out they didn't vote this election, scream at them or worse, for single-handedly being the reason democracy died. I wish I'm kidding but I'm not. TDS post 2024 will be off the charts if he wins. And even democrats will get the wrath of it.
Their are liberals threatening to look up people's voting record, people they know, and if they find out they didn't vote this election, scream at them or worse, for single-handedly being the reason democracy died. I wish I'm kidding but I'm not. TDS post 2024 will be off the charts if he wins. And even democrats will get the wrath of it.
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (QAK8m)
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You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
Little #2 is going to sing Rush - Limelight at the local talent show, and he hits all the notes in tune.
https://youtu.be/ZiRuj2_czzwd
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
Little #2 is going to sing Rush - Limelight at the local talent show, and he hits all the notes in tune.
https://youtu.be/ZiRuj2_czzwd
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon, Guilty as a Jaywalker, Free as a Bird at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (i24o9)
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I think VA is a reach. Maybe someone on the ground can give a better outlook.
I think Trump takes AZ, NV and PA.
FWIW, right now I think Trump gets the states he won in 2016, plus Nevada, but subtract MI and WI. And that makes him President.
Happier if it's a bigger victory than that.
I think Trump takes AZ, NV and PA.
FWIW, right now I think Trump gets the states he won in 2016, plus Nevada, but subtract MI and WI. And that makes him President.
Happier if it's a bigger victory than that.
Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (wMRY8)
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359 (censored)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (Z8Yh2)
Oh, That's Not Right.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 01, 2024 12:05 PM (Z8Yh2)
Oh, That's Not Right.
Posted by: Guy at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (wyMQY)
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350 275
‘ Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?Z’
In my case, direct experience. This year was the first time ever that I voted early. I assumed that everyone would follow my lead. Are you suggesting that’s not the case?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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Your anecdote doesn't match with the data which paints a picture of Democrats pulling more election day voters to early voting on average than Republicans.
All while Democrats are missing millions of ballots in general.
‘ Well, I guess it's all the election day voters surging in early voting."?Z’
In my case, direct experience. This year was the first time ever that I voted early. I assumed that everyone would follow my lead. Are you suggesting that’s not the case?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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Your anecdote doesn't match with the data which paints a picture of Democrats pulling more election day voters to early voting on average than Republicans.
All while Democrats are missing millions of ballots in general.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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342 My map puts MI, AZ, NV and PA in the Steal if They Need It category.
By my calc this means Trump MUST take VA.
But even so it means he also needs WI or any of the Steal If They Need It states.
I think Trump will have also figured out he needs VA. I don't know how he gets it but it's possible.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (nBRaJ)
I've said I didn't think Trump could get VA...can Youngkin get it for him? It's a tough hill to climb...
That said, the reduced early voting can only be helping him...it's not enough yet to beat 450K votes, but it's starting towards that path, especially if you think more Rs are voting early here and Ds are even more depressed...
By my calc this means Trump MUST take VA.
But even so it means he also needs WI or any of the Steal If They Need It states.
I think Trump will have also figured out he needs VA. I don't know how he gets it but it's possible.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 12:02 PM (nBRaJ)
I've said I didn't think Trump could get VA...can Youngkin get it for him? It's a tough hill to climb...
That said, the reduced early voting can only be helping him...it's not enough yet to beat 450K votes, but it's starting towards that path, especially if you think more Rs are voting early here and Ds are even more depressed...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (exHjb)
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OT
Proud grandpa moment
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Proud grandpa moment
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (W/lyH)
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Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year.
But they can make up for it in volume.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
They just write it off, Jerry.
But they can make up for it in volume.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
They just write it off, Jerry.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
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Proud grandpa moment
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
oh that is awesome w00t!!!
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
oh that is awesome w00t!!!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (s3qiR)
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So unless something dramatically changes, that's the state of things.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
there's a battle right now over 270k votes that were supposed to have been purged in PA
I don't think the cheaters will be able to steal PA this time, just a gut feeling
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
there's a battle right now over 270k votes that were supposed to have been purged in PA
I don't think the cheaters will be able to steal PA this time, just a gut feeling
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (dCxaZ)
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Proud grandpa moment
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (W/lyH)
Excellent.
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 01, 2024 12:06 PM (W/lyH)
Excellent.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon, Guilty as a Jaywalker, Free as a Bird at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (i24o9)
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Proud grandpa moment
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Posted by: Diogenes
Go Hokies!!!!!!
Go Hokies!!! Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 and her VT team are in the Womens Soccer playoffs.
Woohoo!
Posted by: Diogenes
Go Hokies!!!!!!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (v6JzV)
374
You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna
The sun is out in my AO after a few days of clouds and high winds.
Posted by: It's me donna
The sun is out in my AO after a few days of clouds and high winds.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 12:07 PM (VNX3d)
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You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
My coffee is brewed, and I am going to pour me a mug.
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
My coffee is brewed, and I am going to pour me a mug.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2024 12:08 PM (14wkI)
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Ford's offering to install, for free, a "standard" EV charging station in your home/garage if you'd please buy one of their battery powered vehicles.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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That would have been a hoot in these parts. No electricity for almost a month.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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That would have been a hoot in these parts. No electricity for almost a month.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 01, 2024 12:08 PM (XeU6L)
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@358
>>We'll see. But, again, I think WI is more likely to turn that PA.
I think Trump can win, his path is just very narrow and he has to convert the 3 three gettable states.
I just don't think the Donks are going to let him or any Republican win those blue wall states any more.
>>We'll see. But, again, I think WI is more likely to turn that PA.
I think Trump can win, his path is just very narrow and he has to convert the 3 three gettable states.
I just don't think the Donks are going to let him or any Republican win those blue wall states any more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:08 PM (XV/Pl)
378
donna honestly this is not the place to hang out if you want positivity!
lol
the stuff that came out just today poll-wise was super positive for the Rs I don't know what else to tell you
and on the ground here in southeastern PA there is a ton more PDJT support in more different demos than I've seen before.
that's all I can give you but please try to be positive - it doesn't make you smarter to be a pessimist although many people seem to believe it does.
lol
the stuff that came out just today poll-wise was super positive for the Rs I don't know what else to tell you
and on the ground here in southeastern PA there is a ton more PDJT support in more different demos than I've seen before.
that's all I can give you but please try to be positive - it doesn't make you smarter to be a pessimist although many people seem to believe it does.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 01, 2024 12:08 PM (s3qiR)
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 12:08 PM (jvJvP)
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NOOD Vance
Posted by: jim (In Hospital in Kalifornia) at November 01, 2024 12:09 PM (0RLWl)
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Donna, I have some funny news...
Saint, the 8th year old son of Kanye and Kim (spawned during Kanye's "I've given myself back to god" period which is clearly over) posted a based meme against Kamala. (A kid complains he has crap on his shoe; turns his shoe over and it's a pic of Kamala.) It got scrubbed so fast. But clearly his thinking is not of the black hive mind.
And no, a kid that is 8 should NOT be posting memes on social media. But I got a huge laugh out of what Kim's reaction must have been, as she's a huge liberal. Gives me hope for Gen alpha!
Saint, the 8th year old son of Kanye and Kim (spawned during Kanye's "I've given myself back to god" period which is clearly over) posted a based meme against Kamala. (A kid complains he has crap on his shoe; turns his shoe over and it's a pic of Kamala.) It got scrubbed so fast. But clearly his thinking is not of the black hive mind.
And no, a kid that is 8 should NOT be posting memes on social media. But I got a huge laugh out of what Kim's reaction must have been, as she's a huge liberal. Gives me hope for Gen alpha!
Posted by: LizLem at November 01, 2024 12:10 PM (QAK8m)
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Most of them are Kamala +6-10
Surprise poll this week had it Kamala +1
Today's poll was back to 10 (51-41) - of course, that's 92 percent, and I doubt 8 percent will be 3rd party in VA...
Posted by: Nova Local
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You pick one poll and stay with that brand. Different polling outfits use different assumptions as to who will vote (or use shitty screenings like all persons (worthless) or the registered voter (semi worthless).
The trend is about all you can derive from using one poll because the assumptions of turnout and sampling is usually consistent from poll to poll by that one company.
Surprise poll this week had it Kamala +1
Today's poll was back to 10 (51-41) - of course, that's 92 percent, and I doubt 8 percent will be 3rd party in VA...
Posted by: Nova Local
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You pick one poll and stay with that brand. Different polling outfits use different assumptions as to who will vote (or use shitty screenings like all persons (worthless) or the registered voter (semi worthless).
The trend is about all you can derive from using one poll because the assumptions of turnout and sampling is usually consistent from poll to poll by that one company.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:11 PM (ctrM5)
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@349
>>You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
I just finished printing out my Akira movie poster/plaque and am in the process of printing The Mad Max posters.
So that's something non-political.
I also have today off so I am about to imbibe a lovely Gimlet.
>>You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
I just finished printing out my Akira movie poster/plaque and am in the process of printing The Mad Max posters.
So that's something non-political.
I also have today off so I am about to imbibe a lovely Gimlet.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2024 12:11 PM (XV/Pl)
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Elon is spending a lot of time here
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)
The guy who build electric cars, is a giant nerd, has a history of being anti-union is spending time in PA?
Should really sway the working class union voters in Frackville PA....
Posted by: kallisto at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)
The guy who build electric cars, is a giant nerd, has a history of being anti-union is spending time in PA?
Should really sway the working class union voters in Frackville PA....
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 01, 2024 12:11 PM (MURHM)
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My coffee is brewed, and I am going to pour me a mug.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Hoists mug of Joe Mugg's Coffee for the troops:
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My coffee is brewed, and I am going to pour me a mug.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Hoists mug of Joe Mugg's Coffee for the troops:
http://tiny.cc/lw4tzz
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 01, 2024 12:12 PM (XeU6L)
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You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
It is pouring down rain outside and the cats are all in here with me sleeping.
Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)
It is pouring down rain outside and the cats are all in here with me sleeping.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 12:12 PM (D7oie)
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Also, Its Me Donna, we haven't started to argue economics, so that's a plus!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 12:13 PM (D7oie)
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We are all afraid of the cheat. I get it.
At this moment, unlike 2020, there is no good news for the dems. Trump has at least a legitimate shot at popular vote victory. The dems began recently spouting a bunch of if Trump wins the popular vote and loses republicans will support popular vote. They are spouting that because they are fully aware Trump has a chance at a popular vote win. While it doesn't guarantee an EC win, for the GOP candidate it is almost a certainty.
All D early voting is down, badly. You can reference it against almost any metric. As TJM mentioned, the dems are voting like it is a midterm, the R's like a presidential. There are many fewer ballots out there to work with, than in 2020, where even then the dems had to move heaven and earth to get FJB over the top. There is no evidence that the either the GOP will have a significant voting day drop or the D's a significant voting day surge.
Arizona just got slapped around on citizenship status - the areas of potential cheat are well known. The lawyers are already there and working. I expect the dems to try and juice the count. I expect this time the RNC will not allow it to go unchallenged.
At this moment, unlike 2020, there is no good news for the dems. Trump has at least a legitimate shot at popular vote victory. The dems began recently spouting a bunch of if Trump wins the popular vote and loses republicans will support popular vote. They are spouting that because they are fully aware Trump has a chance at a popular vote win. While it doesn't guarantee an EC win, for the GOP candidate it is almost a certainty.
All D early voting is down, badly. You can reference it against almost any metric. As TJM mentioned, the dems are voting like it is a midterm, the R's like a presidential. There are many fewer ballots out there to work with, than in 2020, where even then the dems had to move heaven and earth to get FJB over the top. There is no evidence that the either the GOP will have a significant voting day drop or the D's a significant voting day surge.
Arizona just got slapped around on citizenship status - the areas of potential cheat are well known. The lawyers are already there and working. I expect the dems to try and juice the count. I expect this time the RNC will not allow it to go unchallenged.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 01, 2024 12:13 PM (GZYu7)
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349 You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna
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That is the intent of doomers---paid or otherwise. They want you feeling miserable because depressed miserable people isolate themselves and become subjects rather than citizens.
That is why doomers of all stripes piss me off.
Posted by: It's me donna
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That is the intent of doomers---paid or otherwise. They want you feeling miserable because depressed miserable people isolate themselves and become subjects rather than citizens.
That is why doomers of all stripes piss me off.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:14 PM (ctrM5)
390
This busty blonde in a one-piece wants an exciting, torquey, balls-to-the-wall EV sports car, but understands that this is a niche luxury market:
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
Not sure why, as she's built for comfort, not for speed.
http://tiny.cc/zo4tzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 01, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
Not sure why, as she's built for comfort, not for speed.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Ham at November 01, 2024 12:16 PM (b6Yv0)
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387 Also, Its Me Donna, we haven't started to argue economics, so that's a plus!
Posted by: Kindltot
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Heh. While economics is the dismal science; history is in fact the tragic science. Kipling's poem, Gods of the Copybook Headings, is a poetic recitation of history and man's folly.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Heh. While economics is the dismal science; history is in fact the tragic science. Kipling's poem, Gods of the Copybook Headings, is a poetic recitation of history and man's folly.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:16 PM (ctrM5)
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389 349 You guys are depressing...Give me some positive news...
Posted by: It's me donna
I met a girl who sang the blues
I asked her for some happy news
but she just smiled and walked away
Posted by: It's me donna
I met a girl who sang the blues
I asked her for some happy news
but she just smiled and walked away
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2024 12:20 PM (wyMQY)
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Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not to thine own understanding.
Proverbs 3:5
Proverbs 3:5
Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 12:25 PM (jgmnb)
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393 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not to thine own understanding.
Proverbs 3:5
Posted by: Eromero
Yep. Good words from the Good Book to live by.
Proverbs 3:5
Posted by: Eromero
Yep. Good words from the Good Book to live by.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 12:30 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Ammika at November 01, 2024 01:42 PM (5e5uW)
397
I work at a DOE site. I've been seeing a lot of GSA Lightning pickups around. It's possible that that dimwit Granholm or Senile Joe's surrogate has been pressuring the GSA to bail Ford out for the mistakes that they forced Ford to make.
Posted by: Max Entropy at November 01, 2024 02:24 PM (oxDA9)
398
"Ford on Monday said its Model-e EV operations are expected to lose about $5 billion this year."
We'll make it up in volume!
Just like downtown.
We'll make it up in volume!
Just like downtown.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives. at November 01, 2024 03:00 PM (UqfTs)
399
Its still Consumer Freedom/Choice and not Government/UN/WEF Mandates
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 01, 2024 05:19 PM (wGqjj)
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That "EV demand wanes" story is getting worn thin by Tesla and BYD growing sales. EV share is growing world wide. Others would say you're just flat out lying, I'd have to agree.
Posted by: Sixiron at November 02, 2024 03:49 PM (c4Wfm)
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