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Republicans: The Democrats Are So Insane Right Now That When We Tell People Their Agenda, They Don't Believe Us.
So We Have to Tone Down the Democrats' Real Agenda So People Believe a Censored Version of Their Agenda

Park MacDougald at Tablet.


The Democrats' Insanity Defense


Republican activists say they have to water down the reality of their opponents' agenda in focus groups. 'They just don't believe it's true. It can't be.'

I know someone like this. An older woman, and a kind of old school normie liberal Democrat.

CNN doesn't ever run stories about Tren de Aragua taking over apartments in Aurora, so when you tell her, she just says "Oh, more lies from Fox."

She, get this, does not believe the Democrats support gender transitions for children or even pronouns.


In the September debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Trump said something so ludicrous that many viewers must have dismissed it out of hand. "She did things that nobody would ever think of," Trump said, while rattling off a list of some of the vice president's most radical past positions. "Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison."

The idea that the vice president "wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison" seemed so patently absurd that The New Yorker's Susan Glasser cited it in a column posted the next morning as an example of Trump's lunacy: "What the hell was he talking about?" Glasser wrote of the trans operation lines. "No one knows, which was, of course, exactly Harris' point."

That reaction was understandable--the idea of the operations was, as Trump himself said, a "thing nobody would ever think of." The problem was that it is true. As CNN had reported that week, Harris, when running for the Democratic nomination in 2019, had written in an ACLU questionnaire that she supported publicly funded "gender-affirming care," including transition surgeries, for federal prison inmates and detained illegal immigrants. Follow-up reporting from The Washington Free Beacon revealed that while serving as California attorney general, Harris had in fact implemented a statewide policy of taxpayer funding for prisoners' sex changes, born out of a settlement in which she agreed to pay for the transition of a man convicted of kidnapping a father of three and then murdering him as he begged for his life. Harris later bragged, on camera, about this policy as evidence of her commitment to the progressive "movement"--in a clip that has since become a staple of Trump campaign ads.

The sequence of events neatly encapsulated a pattern that has played out countless times since Trump entered American political life. Trump says something seemingly insane, to many people's outrage and disbelief, only to have his supposed "lie" revealed to be wholly or at least significantly true. Often the specific truth revealed--that the outgoing Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team in order to gather information for what later became the Russiagate hoax, to cite another example--is in fact "crazier" than Trump's exaggerations or garbling of the details. The insanity of the policy becomes the front line of defense against potential blowback: Who would believe that anyone would actually propose or support something so obviously at odds with public opinion and basic common sense? Trump must be a raving nutjob, just like we told you he was.

The reason that this strategy has worked is because Democrats rely on all nonexplicitly right-wing media to adopt their framing of issues and cite the party's preferred experts, which they do. The party's influence over the country's communications apparatus has, for the past decade, emerged into something like a political superpower, allowing it to act outside the normal bounds of American politics without suffering from political blowback.

"All of it," said a Republican congressional staffer, "is insulated by their absolute confidence that they can just use their control over communications institutions to just say words, including change of language, right? Flip a switch and it's now gender affirming care. Flip a switch and it's now undocumented migrants, or undocumented Americans. Flip a switch and now you can change people's pronouns."

The result, for anyone skeptical of the Democratic Party yet bound to operate within the consensus reality of its discourse, is akin to living in a wilderness of mirrors. How to explain, for instance, that elected Democrats from the Biden White House on down support not only taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens, but policies that allow schools to "socially transition" children without informing their parents? How to explain, without sounding like a lunatic, that the newspapers and expert bodies that recommend life-altering surgeries for children, and defend them as "life-saving" or "medically necessary" care opposed only by cranks and Bible thumpers, either don't know what they're talking about or are lying to you for political reasons? That the claim that such surgeries were rarely if ever performed on children was also a lie? That when President Biden, the kindly old moderate, directed his Department of Health and Human Services to address the "barriers and exclusionary policies" keeping children from accessing "gender medicine," what he was describing was a policy that would see members of his own administration pressuring medical agencies to allow procedures such as breast and penis removal be performed on young children, despite the lack of any proof that these measures contribute to greater mental or physical health?

The same GOP staffer, who is currently working on a competitive congressional race, told me that one problem his campaign regularly faces is that aspects of Democratic governance are simply too insane for voters to find credible, even when they are documented as official U.S. government policy. "When you outline the Democratic agenda, you have to water it down, because in both polling and focus groups, people just don't believe it," he said. "They are critical of things like boys in girls' sports, but they tune out stuff about schools not informing parents about transitioning their children. They just don't believe it's true. It can't be."

Another Republican operative made a related point on the failure of the party's attempt to message on trans issues in 2022, which was that the reality of the procedures was so gruesome that voters simply preferred not to think about it. "Phrases like 'genital mutilation' are disgusting and viscerally off-putting, even to voters who may be sympathetic to the Republicans' position but will just write you off as a freak for talking about it that way."

He then turns to foreign policy. People refuse to believe that Obama "pivoted to Iran" and cultivated the demonic terror state -- the biggest funder of terrorism, including against Americans, in the world -- as a bosom ally.

They can't believe it because it just sounds so insane.

It has to be another one of those Fox Lies -- doesn't it?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:00 PM




Comments

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1 First?

Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 01, 2024 06:00 PM (vTZlU)

2 They are not wrong.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 01, 2024 06:01 PM (QNSds)

3 Yet there's an even chance they will vote this insanity into office

Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 06:02 PM (IyPmt)

4 This is so freaking painful to read. Not to mention comprehend.

Posted by: Brando at November 01, 2024 06:03 PM (rpMQ9)

5 "CNN doesn't ever run stories about Tren de Aragua taking over apartments in Aurora, so when you tell her, she just says "Oh, more lies from Fox."


You have been talking to my mother haven't you Ace?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 01, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)

6 The Emperor has no Clothes ! NO, Trump lies !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 06:03 PM (V13WU)

7 why are people so afraid of the truth ?

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 06:04 PM (V13WU)

8
Today is All Saints Day, btw.

Or, as the liars in the Fake News would say, it's All Saint's Day.


Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 06:04 PM (cxu54)

9
Right?

All Saint's Day

Makes as much sense as "supporter's."

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 06:05 PM (cxu54)

10 Little Timmy you gots transgender Girlfriend Minnesota ??

Me from China and my name used to be Kim Jong Ho....

Posted by: Suzie Wong at November 01, 2024 06:05 PM (FDlb9)

11 Just like Penthouse Forum letters!

Posted by: davidt at November 01, 2024 06:06 PM (i0F8b)

12 We're almost to the point, we're there's little hope for the current iteration of the US to continue. We will see after the election, but the Rubicon may have been passed...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 06:06 PM (TGPs7)

13 Show the same people Park MacDougald’s article and they’ll still think its all crazy talk.

Posted by: 13times at November 01, 2024 06:09 PM (Tag4Y)

14 Corgis called

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:09 PM (VNX3d)

15 "Republican activists say they have to water down the reality of their opponents' agenda in focus groups. 'They just don't believe it's true. It can't be.'"

---

All I know is, the current regime would be accurately considered to be fascist, but you can't say that, because nobody accepts that "the left" is fascist. They still think in right/left, as if that has any bearing on the current world in which we live.

It doesn't. These people are by definition, fascists. And a lot of people would be able to better understand what's going on, if they'd just be less obstinate about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2024 06:09 PM (dGCAG)

16 Trump is a Fascist Pig that is the offspring of Ivan the Terrible ......

His Mother was a Hamster, and his Father smelled of Elderberries also...

Enough with Trump's degusting name calling and I will end this after November 5.....

Posted by: Kamal Harris at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (2/uQy)

17 Het, where all the white apostrophes at?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (gDlxJ)

18
27 Days Until Thanksgiving

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (cxu54)

19 *has sadz this was enstomped*

Dr. Apostrophe
From Apostrophe With Love
Goldapostrophe
Apostropussy
On Her Majesty's Secret Apostrophe

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (0s6uJ)

20 It's like that interview with Vance, where she said the gangs had just taken over a few apartment buildings. Accepting the take over of even one is insane. Something has to be done about the partisanship and outright lies of the MSM.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 01, 2024 06:11 PM (gfViB)

21 Yes.
Exactly.
They haven’t just jumped the shark, they’ve cleared the entire sharknado.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:11 PM (Hkcdp)

22 *has sadz this was enstomped*

Dr. Apostrophe
From Apostrophe With Love
Goldapostrophe
Apostropussy
On Her Majesty's Secret Apostrophe
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (0s6uJ)

My last one: The Man With The Golden Apostrophe

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:11 PM (VNX3d)

23 A old friend today asked me if I thought PDJT would work with 'moderate' Dems like Sen. Sharrod Brown (OH). I told her "I hope the f*ck not!!".

The stupidity - it burns.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 01, 2024 06:12 PM (WXNFJ)

24 >>> 22
==
My last one: The Man With The Golden Apostrophe
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:11 PM (VNX3d)

Apostrophes Are Forever

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:12 PM (0s6uJ)

25 Yes.
Exactly.
They haven’t just jumped the shark, they’ve cleared the entire sharknado.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:11 PM (Hkcdp)

I'm waiting for the motorcycle jump over the Atlantic, from New York City to Paris.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:12 PM (VNX3d)

26 Apostrophe Now

Posted by: Francis Ford Coppola at November 01, 2024 06:13 PM (i0F8b)

27 We're almost to the point, we're there's little hope for the current iteration of the US to continue. We will see after the election, but the Rubicon may have been passed...
Posted by: Mister Ghost
.....

All hail TrumpCaesar!

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 06:13 PM (v0R5T)

28 7 why are people so afraid of the truth ?
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 06:04 PM (V13WU)

cognitive dissidence is one hell of a drug.

Most people don't pay attention to politics. Like, at all. All they know about politics is what they are exposed to incidentally -- so from social media, celebrities, idly watching CNN while they wait for their plane at the gate, etc.

But they DO know that their team are the good guys, and the other team is full of crazy nuts.

So of course if the other team (in this case Republicans) say "Democrats believe that you should chemically castrate 12 year olds!" they say "I don't believe that, and I'm a Democrat! I've never heard anyone say that! You're crazy and making shit up."

And the crazy thing is -- even if you show them proof, they either don't believe it or they say "well, I disagree with that specific thing you showed me, but..." and then they just... move on with their lives. No critical thinking.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 06:13 PM (Evo1G)

29 I have a suggestion, inspired by the earlier thread on Mark Cuban.

How about a pictorial thread of noted conservative women. The ones he thinks are so dumb.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2024 06:14 PM (1bNHn)

30 Orwell's 198'4


Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2024 06:14 PM (NLIak)

31 >>> 7 why are people so afraid of the truth ?
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 06:04 PM (V13WU)

Because they would have to acknowledge it exists, be expected to recognize how they contributed to it, or even... *gasp* DO something about it...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:14 PM (0s6uJ)

32 "I'm waiting for the motorcycle jump over the Atlantic, from New York City to Paris"

Beau already did that, before he died.

My word as a Biden

: Joe

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (a1415)

33 It can't be true or I would've seen it on the news!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (2UnvF)

34 I tweeted Jonah Bag o' Donuts and Liz Cheney with Black Sabbath's "War Pigs".

I'm probably blocked now

Posted by: Don Black at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (/7KEl)

35 Apostrophe in Wonderland

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (v0R5T)

36 Paul's game is weaker than is usual for him.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (U1w17)

37 Paul, you ignorant slut.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (2UnvF)

38 Must be coming to a head. The people I know that are liberal dems are popping off now...I do my best to keep it down but I truly reject them and avoid them as much as possible. I know lesser people are to be pitied but they wear their stupidity ever so proudly. Going to be an interesting weekend.

Posted by: DanMan at November 01, 2024 06:16 PM (8uzBS)

39 34 It can't be true or I would've seen it on the news!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 06:15 PM (2UnvF)

Or conversely, "It must be true it was on the news!"

Posted by: davidt at November 01, 2024 06:16 PM (i0F8b)

40 Believable.

10 years ago, would you believe a major political party would fundraise and campaign on chemically and physically butchering children's reproductive organs?

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 06:16 PM (+oR7L)

41 This is why in liberal suburbia the affluent have their Harris signs out. Not only are they immune to the financial consequences, they are grotesquely misinformed on the real issues and feel they are insulated enough to weather anything.

No sane, measured person could look across the last four years, then look at what Kamala has actually stated on tape and think, yeah give me more of that.

Posted by: Truthbomb at November 01, 2024 06:16 PM (OZtA4)

42 Right on cue, here comes imbecile to tell us that a Thing can't be happening because someone with a massive interest in it not happening says so

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:17 PM (0s6uJ)

43 Isn't all this stuff available for viewing on the DNC website? Harris' website? White House website?

Posted by: Ciampino - Two apostrophes become a quotation mark at November 01, 2024 06:17 PM (i0xsb)

44 15 "Republican activists say they have to water down the reality of their opponents' agenda in focus groups. 'They just don't believe it's true. It can't be.'"

---

All I know is, the current regime would be accurately considered to be fascist, but you can't say that, because nobody accepts that "the left" is fascist. They still think in right/left, as if that has any bearing on the current world in which we live.

It doesn't. These people are by definition, fascists. And a lot of people would be able to better understand what's going on, if they'd just be less obstinate about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2024 06:09 PM (dGCAG)


I believe one reason Trump is doing well is that more and more people see the Democrats as evil. Trump has revealed the hidden Democrat methods and core beliefs for all to see.

Posted by: Gref at November 01, 2024 06:17 PM (aBgBM)

45 >>> 40 Believable.

10 years ago, would you believe a major political party would fundraise and campaign on chemically and physically butchering children's reproductive organs?
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 06:16 PM (+oR7L)

Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (0s6uJ)

46 IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE THE CELEBRATION PARALLAX IS REAL, AND IT’S GHOULISH

Posted by: BEN at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (Hkcdp)

47 I have a few friends who have siblings that are completely in the dark and refuse to believe anything about Dems supporting gender reassignment surgery.
A couple of them say the border invasion is a lie.
This country is woefully misinformed.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (NpAcC)

48 LIV = low IQ voter

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (YqDXo)

49 Isn't all this stuff available for viewing on the DNC website? Harris' website? White House website?
Posted by: Ciampino - Two apostrophes become a quotation mark at November 01, 2024 06:17 PM (i0xsb)
------------
IIRR, the Harris website is pretty content-free as far as actual agenda is concerned.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (U1w17)

50 Isn't all this stuff available for viewing on the DNC website? Harris' website? White House website?

Posted by: Ciampino - Two apostrophes become a quotation mark at November 01, 2024 06:17 PM (i0xsb)
_______________

As if LIVs would ever go look.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (YqDXo)

51 I've been saying for a long time that we should refuse to participate in the left's debasement of language. Just refuse to use their terms. Even those that seem rather benign are actually dangerous and damaging, because they shape people's thoughts without their knowledge.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (paSBy)

52 Hugh Hewitt rage-quitting reminds of when LGF frontman Charles Johnson went batshit crazy and everyone left.

Posted by: jsg at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (7kKPC)

53 What I find even more frustrating is how lefties will so quickly pivot from, "That's insane, nobody says that" to "I fully support that position now that you tell me prominent lefties support it."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (Odg76)

54 >>> 47 I have a few friends who have siblings that are completely in the dark and refuse to believe anything about Dems supporting gender reassignment surgery.
A couple of them say the border invasion is a lie.
This country is woefully misinformed.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (NpAcC)

Hmm, now I like Abbott and DeathSantis' relocation of illegals even more.

"Why is Mayor Adams talking about resources for immigrants???"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (0s6uJ)

55 Mary Katherine Hamm described this as the Chappaquiddick problem. When you tell people the facts they just go no way that is too far out there for me to believe.

Even Harris supporters are like no way that's just made up right there when they hear things she supports. And then they call you racist if you show video or Harris says he supports that very thing.

Posted by: blaster at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (QfvaV)

56 Evening stroll thru nearby neighborhood of $5M to $7M homes. Lots of homes with Harris/Walz signs.

One home, sign modified to Harry/ Balz.

LOL

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at November 01, 2024 06:20 PM (Kdi1r)

57 48 LIV = low IQ voter
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:18 PM (YqDXo)

Yeah, I guess we should really break it out. There are three main groups of voters:

1) highly "informed" partisans who pay attention
2) low information people. May be smart, but mostly disinterested in politics
3) people who are incapable of thinking in nuanced ways or processing complex thoughts due to low IQ

Now what proportion of the population falls in to each category? I have no idea. Is there overlaps? For sure.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 06:20 PM (Evo1G)

58 "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."

- Herbert Stein

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:20 PM (LkLld)

59 One home, sign modified to Harry/ Balz.

LOL

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at November 01, 2024 06:20 PM (Kdi1r)

How juvenile.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (Evo1G)

60 GranMa democrat might not believe what the left plans, she may not live to see the results of the plans the left has for us....but her grandchildren will. And they will believe.

Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (LHPAg)

61 >>> 58 "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."

- Herbert Stein
Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:20 PM (LkLld)

And nobody knows when it will stop, until it does.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (0s6uJ)

62 I've been saying for a long time that we should refuse to participate in the left's debasement of language. Just refuse to use their terms.
_______________

homeless
"of color"
spokesperson
humankind

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

63 As I've pointed out more than once lately, the Dems *MUST* use euphemisms when talking about their policies because the naked truth of what they believe and what they will do leaves most people sick to their stomach when they understand the truth.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 01, 2024 06:22 PM (BpYfr)

64 That receipt at the grocery checkout and the price on the gas pump aren't believable to these tards either?

Posted by: Roy at November 01, 2024 06:22 PM (z+ik4)

65 "LIV" has heretofore always meant "Low Information Voter," not "Low IQ Voter." I'm sure there's considerable overlap, though.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2024 06:22 PM (NLIak)

66 I believe this.
My extremely liberal sister refused to believe that hospitals wee removing healthy body parts from teen girls. Went bqllistic when I tried to give her proof.
Had a friend refuses to believe that llhan Omar married her brother to help him stay in the country. Said she was just young and couldn;t have done that.
My other sister was astonished that I believed scholarships to colleges should be based on financial circumstances and not skin color.
When I said it was hubris to think we could change the planet's weather, my BIL accused me of only watching Fox news.
and on and on...

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (t/2Uw)

67
Then I guess they can VAFO*, but by that time the country will be utterly screwed.

Vote Awfully and Find Out

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (T3es0)

68 Meade Lux, I adhere to that premise. There is no such thing as trans and I refuse to use that word.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (t8vHj)

69 In their mind, everything to their right is fascist. It is how they define the world. Being to the right of a friend is fascist.

Posted by: Jamaica at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (JY+81)

70 I personally believe they will cheat Harris into the White House. But even if Trump wins and is allowed to take office, I think the country is irreversibly broken--precisely because Liberals have gone from Regular Ignorant to Aggressively Ignorant And Fiercely Proud Of It.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (CHHv1)

71 They wont believe democrats are batshit insane but they readily believe Trump called for Cheney to be shot?

mkay

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (M7vhK)

72 Why are they afraid of the truth?


They would have to take some responsibility for what the people they voted into government are doing?

They would be called to stop it?

Everyone believes they would have done something about US slavery, yet who is currently working to end child sex trafficking across our Southern border right now and for the past three years aided and funded by our own federal government?

Much easier to believe it’s not happening, go on with fighting imaginary dragons like “micro-aggressions” and so on.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (Hkcdp)

73 >>> 51 I've been saying for a long time that we should refuse to participate in the left's debasement of language. Just refuse to use their terms. Even those that seem rather benign are actually dangerous and damaging, because they shape people's thoughts without their knowledge.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (paSBy)

>>> 62
==
homeless
"of color"
spokesperson
humankind
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

"access"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (0s6uJ)

74 Oh you Rethuglicans,
listen to what a sane and ethical Democrat has to say...


Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
News flash: On Tuesday night, regardless of what the vote tallies say, Trump will declare victory.

He will claim the only reason he may lose is “vote stealing.”

Undermining the legitimacy of an election is how demagogues destroy faith in democracy.

Kamala for President.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (TGPs7)

75 It blows my mind but there are people who earnestly believe that, if something happened, it would be in the news.

They seriously cannot conceive the news might omit facts or events.

It's weird. How do you make it in this world with such a childlike credulity of people you have neither met nor know?
They just can't conceive that the people putting the hay in their trough have other motives besides altruism and kindness.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (U4x6/)

76 >>And nobody knows when it will stop, until it does.

Slowly. And then all at once.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:24 PM (LkLld)

77 76 >>And nobody knows when it will stop, until it does.

Slowly. And then all at once.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:24 PM (LkLld)

There you are

Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 06:24 PM (IyPmt)

78 "LIV" has heretofore always meant "Low Information Voter," not "Low IQ Voter." I'm sure there's considerable overlap, though.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2024 06:22 PM (NLIak)
________________

I know. I'm redefining it for accuracy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:24 PM (YqDXo)

79 Send Us Thine Asteroid, O Lord
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

SAOD - Sweet Apostrophe of Death

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (fQmeC)

80 7 why are people so afraid of the truth ?
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 06:04 PM (V13WU)

It's not that they are afraid so much as that they can't recognize the truth anymore.

People have been cooperating with evil which darkens the intellect .

If the absolute horror that is abortion and genital mutilation of young people can be passed off as "rights" Then the rest is easy.

I they can convince you to sacrifice your child or mutilate them for your career or social status, what can't they convince you to do, say, or think?

Posted by: Just Lily at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (RLLZj)

81 > "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."
------
Something of a "no shit" prediction that gets a lot of airplay because.... it's likely not be wrong.

Like... "plowing into a brick wall at 1000MPH will cause injury."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (Q4IgG)

82 >>> 68 Meade Lux, I adhere to that premise. There is no such thing as trans and I refuse to use that word.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (t8vHj)

Eunuch

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (0s6uJ)

83 > As I've pointed out more than once lately, the Dems *MUST* use euphemisms when talking about their policies because the naked truth of what they believe and what they will do leaves most people sick to their stomach when they understand the truth.

What abortion doctors do to babies in utero, accurately described, sounds like something straight out of Medieval Europe. That's why they say things like, "reproductive care."

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (Odg76)

84 19 *has sadz this was enstomped*

Dr. Apostrophe
From Apostrophe With Love
Goldapostrophe
Apostropussy
On Her Majesty's Secret Apostrophe

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:10 PM (0s6uJ)
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Thunderapostrophe (Apostropheball in Europe)
Moonapostrophe (Apostropheraker in Europe)

Posted by: Ciampino - all by Apostrophe Fleming at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (i0xsb)

85 82 >>> 68 Meade Lux, I adhere to that premise. There is no such thing as trans and I refuse to use that word.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (t8vHj)

Eunuch
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:25 PM (0s6uJ)

Insane

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:26 PM (VNX3d)

86 homeless
"of color"
spokesperson
humankind
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

"access"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM (0s6uJ)
_______________

"gender-affirming"
"women's healthcare"
"diversity"
"equity"
"inclusion"
"disparate impact"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:26 PM (YqDXo)

87 One home, sign modified to Harry/ Balz.

LOL

Posted by: actually inside the beltway

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Visualize Whirled Peas

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 01, 2024 06:26 PM (Vyll1)

88 “I've been saying for a long time that we should refuse to participate in the left's debasement of language”

We right wingers are now the “reds”.

Posted by: 13times at November 01, 2024 06:28 PM (IT/vo)

89 I'm waiting for the motorcycle jump over the Atlantic, from New York City to Paris"

Beau already did that, before he died.

My word as a Biden

: Joe


And' he' gunned' the' cannibals' trying' to' eat' Uncle' Brosie' while' he' did' it' too'.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 01, 2024 06:28 PM (Da7Vv)

90 Some day a real rain will fall and wash the streets of these journalists.

Posted by: blaster at November 01, 2024 06:28 PM (QfvaV)

91 Leftist can't / won't believe that they are associated with a movement that has gone so far off the rails so denial is their only option

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:28 PM (t8vHj)

92 The Left doesn’t just use euphemisms, the intentionally muddies important distinctions, such as:

Healthcare vs Health insurance
Illegal/Legal immigration vs “migrants”


Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (Hkcdp)

93 They wont believe democrats are batshit insane but they readily believe Trump called for Cheney to be shot?

mkay
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger

It is a sad state of affairs when their lies are more readily believed than our truths.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (fQmeC)

94 People believe that which they want to be true.

Posted by: davidt at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (i0F8b)

95 >>Like... "plowing into a brick wall at 1000MPH will cause injury."

Or a Republican candidate for president selling out Madison Square Garden in deep blue NYC.

Wait, those things aren't the same at all.

The only thing stopping a Trump return to the White House is cheating and the entire world will see it. It's going to get spicy starting next week no matter what happens. That's guaranteed

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (LkLld)

96 It is a sad state of affairs when their lies are more readily believed than our truths.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (fQmeC)
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*pats self on back*

Posted by: NEA at November 01, 2024 06:30 PM (U1w17)

97 "She, get this, does not believe the Democrats support gender transitions for children or even pronouns."

Literally had this conversation with my mom a couple weeks ago. She's an Obama-loving, JFK democrat who grew up in the 50s. Listens to CNN, Rachel Maddow, PBS, and The View -- and thinks this gives her a broad perspective on things. My sister, mom, and I were having a wide-ranging discussion, and my sister threw out a line about Newsom signing off on gender transitions without parental consent. I nodded. My mom sat, incredulous. "Where did you hear that??"

No kidding, ma.

She is forever asking me for my sources when we talk and reach an impasse because she hadn't heard of things I referenced. (The SS guy who got a standing-O from Canadian parliament, for one.)

The propaganda is real. It works. Has fashioned a reality for True Believers that is impervious to logical application of what one sees with their own eyes. Let's hope Tuesday is the beginning of its end.

Posted by: red speck at November 01, 2024 06:30 PM (0Id0S)

98 You know who refuses to use the Left’s language?

Trump

One of the reasons it makes their heads explode.
Using their language is to surrender the battle.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (Hkcdp)

99 Trump paid Russian hookers to pee on Obama's bed.

Posted by: davidt at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (i0F8b)

100 She, get this, does not believe the Democrats support gender transitions for children or even pronouns.

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Dennis Prager appeared on Bill Maher's TV show a few years ago, and was laughed at and mocked by Maher AND his entire audience as unbelievable when Prager stated -- correctly -- that The Left had adopted the position that "men can menstruate."

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 06:32 PM (R/rZJ)

101
This is why I think Harris can legit win -- like, even if the votes are counted properly. She can win on the issues, not just rigged voting, because the left doesn't know what the issues are.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 01, 2024 06:32 PM (T3es0)

102 i have so much food in my refrigerator/freezer but I am too lazy to get up and make something.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2024 06:32 PM (t/2Uw)

103 > Republicans: The Democrats Are So Insane Right Now That When We Tell People Their Agenda, They Don't Believe Us.
So We Have to Tone Down the Democrats' Real Agenda So People Believe a Censored Version of Their Agenda

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Why would you do this?

Unless you were onboard with their agenda.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (Q4IgG)

104 "Why is Mayor Adams talking about resources for immigrants???"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:19 PM (0s6uJ)
*********
Something in their lefty brain does not let them connect the dots.
It's insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (NpAcC)

105 The Left doesn’t just use euphemisms, the intentionally muddies important distinctions, such as:

Healthcare vs Health insurance
Illegal/Legal immigration vs “migrants”

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:29 PM (Hkcdp)
_______________

"Single mother" includes widowed/divorced mothers along with unwed mothers. Big difference, methinks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (YqDXo)

106 >>> 101 She, get this, does not believe the Democrats support gender transitions for children or even pronouns.

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Dennis Prager appeared on Bill Maher's TV show a few years ago, and was laughed at and mocked by Maher AND his entire audience as unbelievable when Prager stated -- correctly -- that The Left had adopted the position that "men can menstruate."
Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 06:32 PM (R/rZJ)

An article linked from Instapundit yesterday included the BS phrase "people who menstruate". Why not just say "women"?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (0s6uJ)

107 Sharon, did you check on the thing I mentioned for your knee?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (t8vHj)

108 You know who refuses to use the Left’s language?

Trump

One of the reasons it makes their heads explode.
Using their language is to surrender the battle.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (Hkcdp)
________________

DeSantis, too - "climate change"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:34 PM (YqDXo)

109 >>> 103 i have so much food in my refrigerator/freezer but I am too lazy to get up and make something.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2024 06:32 PM (t/2Uw)

I sat down to talk to you people and then the kitty sat next to me.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:34 PM (0s6uJ)

110 But "Trump is literally Hitler" is totally believable to these people!?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 01, 2024 06:36 PM (XMwZJ)

111 >>As I've pointed out more than once lately, the Dems *MUST* use euphemisms when talking about their policies because the naked truth of what they believe and what they will do leaves most people sick to their stomach when they understand the truth.


They removed 'Baby' and replaced it with 'Fetus'. Now they have removed 'Fetus' and replaced it with 'Birthing Tissue'.

They only have one play. They just change its name.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 06:36 PM (z/jjr)

112 Republicans: The Democrats Are So Insane Right Now That When We Tell People Their Agenda, They Don't Believe Us.
So We Have to Tone Down the Democrats' Real Agenda So People Believe a Censored Version of Their Agenda
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Why would you do this?

Unless you were onboard with their agenda.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (Q4IgG)
_______________

I think it's smart. If you trot out the more ridiculous Democrat policies, normies will fart you off as a lunatic instead of the Democrats. Watering their policies to make criticism of them plausible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:36 PM (YqDXo)

113 Random HordeSource questions:

Does anyone know a way to get around f@cebuk not letting me even view pages without a login? Fcking bag o dicks Zuck...

What should I know before trying to flush and fill my own radiator instead of paying ludicrous bucks at the dealer (I have watched some videos, but still)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:37 PM (0s6uJ)

114 >>This is why I think Harris can legit win -- like, even if the votes are counted properly. She can win on the issues, not just rigged voting, because the left doesn't know what the issues are.

Party registration for Democrats is pretty much equal to Republicans. Independents are bigger than both.

Democrats own the media and much of the culture but they aren't the majority. They just have bigger mouths.

She can't win without cheating.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:37 PM (LkLld)

115 A POS Trophy wife stole all my money.

(I'm clever)

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 06:37 PM (dIske)

116 Perhaps if we used a simpler way to convey to the LIVs what the Left is actually doing. Something finger puppets or flannelgraph?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (Vyll1)

117 Orwell had a whole lot to say on this subject.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (t8vHj)

118 109 You know who refuses to use the Left’s language?

Trump

One of the reasons it makes their heads explode.
Using their language is to surrender the battle.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (Hkcdp)
________________

DeSantis, too - "climate change"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:34 PM (YqDXo)
The weather changes everyday, often by the hour. I think the sun has something to with that.

Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (LHPAg)

119 Why would you do this?

Unless you were onboard with their agenda.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 01, 2024 06:33 PM (Q4IgG)
_______________

I think it's smart. If you trot out the more ridiculous Democrat policies, normies will fart you off as a lunatic instead of the Democrats. Watering their policies to make criticism of them plausible.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:36 PM (YqDXo)

It also shifts the Overton Window back a ways. It takes time to convince some people that a politician is as crazy as they are.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (VNX3d)

120 >>> 119 109 You know who refuses to use the Left’s language?

Trump

One of the reasons it makes their heads explode.
Using their language is to surrender the battle.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (Hkcdp)
________________

DeSantis, too - "climate change"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:34 PM (YqDXo)
The weather changes everyday, often by the hour. I think the sun has something to with that.
Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (LHPAg)

The Sun is like, 93 million miles away but humans are RIGHT HERE!

Posted by: leftists at November 01, 2024 06:38 PM (0s6uJ)

121 As Dennis Prager always says, truth is not a left-wing value. Plus, a bunch of them are just lazy and they only glom onto whatever suits their fancy and they don’t bother to see what the whole package is.

Posted by: keena at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (RiTnx)

122 Support for partial birth abortion is incomprehensible for most people, but when they say 'state shall not interfere', yeah that's covered too.

Hard to imagine a lopping off an infant's head as it is being born, but what they really do is probably even more crude.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)

123 The NPR/Ipsos poll shows that nearly two-thirds of Americans (63%) are opposed to allowing transgender women and girls to compete on teams that align with their gender identity, while 24% overall support that.

Among Democrats, opinion is fairly split: a plurality, 46%, support trans female athletes' right to compete on women's and girls sports teams, while 41% oppose it.

A little under half of (D) think that boy and MEN can compete with women.
Not 1 out of 20. But 1 out of 2.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (gbOdA)

124 Hi Ben Had
Not yet. I had a telephone conference with the Ortho and he upped my meds. I was pretty unsteady and avoiding unnecessary stuff but the last couple of days have been much improved so now am ready to do what you recommended. I found one not too far from me.
I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (t/2Uw)

125 Let's just cut to the chase--they're stupid.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 01, 2024 06:40 PM (XMwZJ)

126 Who would ever believe that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- General Milley Vanilli would call his Chinese counterpart twice in the waning months of D
Trump’s presidency to secretly reassure Beijing that the U.S. would not attack -- AND WARN THEM OF A COMING ATTACK -- COMMITTING OVERT TREASON?

AND WORSE ... GET AWAY WITH IT SCOTT FREE.

Somewhere at Gallows is missing its traitor.

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 06:40 PM (R/rZJ)

127 >>> 123 Support for partial birth abortion is incomprehensible for most people, but when they say 'state shall not interfere', yeah that's covered too.

Hard to imagine a lopping off an infant's head as it is being born, but what they really do is probably even more crude.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)

As a matter of fact it is *much* worse.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:40 PM (0s6uJ)

128 Lots of conservatives think the msm has no clout anymore. This proves otherwise.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 06:40 PM (KBauD)

129 Support for partial birth abortion is incomprehensible for most people, but when they say 'state shall not interfere', yeah that's covered too.

Hard to imagine a lopping off an infant's head as it is being born, but what they really do is probably even more crude.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)
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It's worse than a horror movie because it really happens.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (BpYfr)

130 >> Let's just cut to the chase--they're stupid


Well, they are mostly women...

AWFL's to be more precise.

And they spent 4-6 years at College, studying hard to get that way.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (z/jjr)

131 As I've pointed out more than once lately, the Dems *MUST* use euphemisms when talking about their policies because the naked truth of what they believe and what they will do leaves most people sick to their stomach when they understand the truth.

"Women's health care" =

"Vacuuming out a baby's brain to collapse the skull so it can be pulled out and discarded"

Posted by: Leftist Dictionary at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (B5nzc)

132
They removed 'Baby' and replaced it with 'Fetus'. Now they have removed 'Fetus' and replaced it with 'Birthing Tissue'.

They only have one play. They just change its name.
Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 06:36 PM

They conflate abortion as women's health care. they've conflated health insurance with health care. Fair Share, common sense gun control, Assault weapons. Living wage. I could go on.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (iBOQt)

133 "Women's health care" =

"Vacuuming out a baby's brain to collapse the skull so it can be pulled out and discarded"
Posted by: Leftist Dictionary at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (B5nzc)
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And that's just ONE example of many.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 01, 2024 06:42 PM (BpYfr)

134 >Hard to imagine a lopping off an infant's head as it is being born, but what they really do is probably even more crude.
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they don't cut off the baby's head
they puncture it and remove the brain matter
they do cut the arms and legs off though

Posted by: Don Black at November 01, 2024 06:42 PM (/7KEl)

135 Let's just cut to the chase--they're stupid


Well, they are mostly women...

AWFL's to be more precise.

And they spent 4-6 years at College, studying hard to get that way.

Posted by: garrett
Appsrently you haven't been paying attention to the White Boys for Harris.I think it is pretty evenly divided at this point.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2024 06:43 PM (t/2Uw)

136 I believe it.

What I DON'T believe is the previous stories about women turning out en masse to try to restore Roe vs Wade. Last I heard, Kamala is in crisis because the Dems that WOULD vote are not showing up in nearly the numbers they had last time, while Republicans are way outperforming.

Only the most extreme purple-haired Leftist lunatics act like that, which is less than 30% of the population, the females being about half of that. They would have come out last time too. And the time before that.

Posted by: MrExcitement at November 01, 2024 06:43 PM (hOOi9)

137 Kermit Gosnell has just stepped in.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:43 PM (t8vHj)

138 >>> 134 "Women's health care" =

"Vacuuming out a baby's brain to collapse the skull so it can be pulled out and discarded"
Posted by: Leftist Dictionary at November 01, 2024 06:41 PM (B5nzc)
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And that's just ONE example of many.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 01, 2024 06:42 PM (BpYfr)

Have you read Hell Spawn or any of that series? The author calls himself a Catholic action horror writer and he is accurate on all three.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM (0s6uJ)

139 Three-fourths of Stanford students say shouting down a speaker is either “rarely,” “sometimes,” or “always” an acceptable form of protest, and more than a third say the same about physical violence.

This is just about every school.
A word or a sentence can be met with violence.

Just an idea uttered into speech mean you can be beat up?
shot?
killed?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM (gbOdA)

140 >>Appsrently you haven't been paying attention to the White Boys for Harris.I think it is pretty evenly divided at this point.


The first part was the joke part.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM (z/jjr)

141 They conflate abortion as women's health care. they've conflated health insurance with health care. Fair Share, common sense gun control, Assault weapons. Living wage. I could go on.
Posted by: CaliGir

Legal and illegal immigration.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM (KBauD)

142 el malo gato on boriquagato.substack brought this up the other day. He felt it had to do with Normalcy Bias, the thing that keeps people from losing focus on the essentials like finding food and shelter.
The Democrats are trying to be the Dread Empire, and the people who are funding it are having trouble comprehending the mass impalements going on to stomp out badthink.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM (D7oie)

143
This is the inverse of the Big Lie, which is a lie so huge and outrageous people can't believe you would say the thing falsely. This is the Big Fact or the Big Reality -- a truth so outrageous that people won't believe it.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 01, 2024 06:45 PM (biznJ)

144 November surprise?

@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: Multiple campaign calls that were publicly advised on President Biden’s schedule yesterday afternoon were cancelled, FOX News has learned.

Organizations that expected the President’s attendance did not immediately respond to inquiries about whether the zoom calls still happened as scheduled, without POTUS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2024 06:45 PM (IG4Id)

145 The left is so fucking lunatic they would call a Stoning a lapidary experience.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:45 PM (t8vHj)

146 The stage for the Ukraine-Russia war was set by Obama because Russia would let globohomoi have its orphans to molest.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (/lPRQ)

147 >>> 146 November surprise?

@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: Multiple campaign calls that were publicly advised on President Biden’s schedule yesterday afternoon were cancelled, FOX News has learned.

Organizations that expected the President’s attendance did not immediately respond to inquiries about whether the zoom calls still happened as scheduled, without POTUS.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2024 06:45 PM (IG4Id)

Oh goody, will DingDong try to cancel the election so we can mourn Brandon?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (0s6uJ)

148 Trump paid Russian male hookers to pee on Obama's bed.
Posted by: davidt at November 01, 2024 06:31 PM (i0F8b)


minor addendum

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (v0R5T)

149 Incredulous ... isn't that the word for this "I can't believe that" state of mind.

The other common term ... Cognitive Dissonance -- Where a long held belief is in contrast to the truth (or facts on the ground), so one has anxiety in trying to reconcile the two things.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (Cus5s)

150 NBC News....a black guy dies in a chokehold by a white cop.

Here he was turning his life around just heading to the library to do his advanced math homework....

Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (jvJvP)

151
@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: Multiple campaign calls that were publicly advised on President Biden’s schedule yesterday afternoon were cancelled, FOX News has learned.

Do you really believe Kamala wants Joe on a zoom call again ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (IyPmt)

152 On the abortion issue we play too fairly. An example of how to get rid of late term abortion would be to present Curtis Zy-Keith Means on a stage right out in front of them.

"See this kid. He's a healthy happy four year old. He was born 21 weeks into his mother's pregnancy. Therefore, any abortions taking place after 21 weeks is now murder. Have a nice day."

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (dIske)

153 >>As a matter of fact it is *much* worse.

Kamala Harris stands accused of “weaponizing” the California Attorney General’s office against a pro-life activist who alleges he was exposing the illegal sale of aborted fetuses.

David Daleiden, whose nine-year legal saga instigated by Harris is still ongoing, released shocking undercover videos he took of Planned Parenthood executives discussing fees and prices for fetal tissues in July 2015.

https://bityl.co/SbQ8

Know the enemy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (LkLld)

154 Nood!!!!

Posted by: tankdemon at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (FWbPd)

155 152 NBC News....a black guy dies in a chokehold by a white cop.

Here he was turning his life around just heading to the library to do his advanced math homework....
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (jvJvP)

4 + 7 = ___ ?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (VNX3d)

156 {{{Ben Had}}}

🐴 🎼 🎶 Good Evening! ♩ ♫ ♬ 🎶

It's Friday:
🥃
🥃
🥃

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (u82oZ)

157 "75 It blows my mind but there are people who earnestly believe that, if something happened, it would be in the news."

You just described my late mother-in-law. I can still see her sitting in front of her television knitting and telling me that she didn't believe some awful thing had really happened because she hadn't seen anything about it on the Today Show.

Posted by: girldog at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (ANtE4)

158 Yes - DeSantis is another one who refuses to use their language. Love it!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (Hkcdp)

159 @JacquiHeinrich
......


Bewbs.

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

160 146 November surprise?

@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: Multiple campaign calls that were publicly advised on President Biden’s schedule yesterday afternoon were cancelled, FOX News has learned.

Organizations that expected the President’s attendance did not immediately respond to inquiries about whether the zoom calls still happened as scheduled, without POTUS.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2024 06:45 PM (IG4Id)
They'll use every play in the book if they have to. Assassination. It's not just for the other party.

Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (LHPAg)

161 >>> 152 NBC News....a black guy dies in a chokehold by a white cop.

Here he was turning his life around just heading to the library to do his advanced math homework....
Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 06:46 PM (jvJvP)

What was the name of that guy in NYC who was choked for selling loosies? I guess he didn't get plastered all over the news because he was a scammer but not a murderer?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (0s6uJ)

162 Just an idea uttered into speech mean you can be beat up?
shot?
killed?
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 01, 2024 06:44 PM


Extremism in the pursuit of the socialist utopia is no vice.

Posted by: Antifa at November 01, 2024 06:49 PM (a3Q+t)

163 NaCly, it isindeed wine time.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 01, 2024 06:49 PM (t8vHj)

164 Hour of the Wolf

What do you want it to be?
Dem politician

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2024 06:49 PM (u82oZ)

165 >>"See this kid. He's a healthy happy four year old. He was born 21 weeks into his mother's pregnancy. Therefore, any abortions taking place after 21 weeks is now murder. Have a nice day."


Why do you think they refuse to use the Viability Metric anymore?

That was one of the lynchpins of the Roe V Wade decision and enforcement that followed.

Now...Viability Crickets.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 06:49 PM (z/jjr)

166 PredictIt has Harris as the favorite now, 54%.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 06:50 PM (KBauD)

167 garrett

Death cults are hard to reprogram. But let's give them the means.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2024 06:50 PM (u82oZ)

168
146 November surprise?

@JacquiHeinrich
NEWS: Multiple campaign calls that were publicly advised on President Biden’s schedule yesterday afternoon were cancelled, FOX News has learned.

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Maybe Biden has diarrhea. More than usual, I mean.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 01, 2024 06:50 PM (biznJ)

169 Only seven months until the start of Pride Month 2025!

Posted by: Peter Bootygig at November 01, 2024 06:51 PM (a3Q+t)

170 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (0s6uJ)

Not sure. I've just been watching the last week or so to be lied to.

Oh, Trump is a violent Hitler Nazi calling for the violent death of his opponents.

It was on the news....

Heh...."We're in an era of misinformation" .... ballot concerns.

Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 06:52 PM (jvJvP)

171 The NPR/Ipsos poll shows that nearly two-thirds of Americans (63%) are opposed to allowing transgender women and girls to compete on teams that align with their gender identity, while 24% overall support that.

Among Democrats, opinion is fairly split: a plurality, 46%, support trans female athletes' right to compete on women's and girls sports teams, while 41% oppose it.

A little under half of (D) think that boy and MEN can compete with women.
Not 1 out of 20. But 1 out of 2.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 01, 2024 06:39 PM (gbOdA)
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Question: why do precisely zero women choose to compete against men?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:52 PM (YqDXo)

172 Peter Bootygig

Hire Islamic fundamentalist bodyguards. Do it now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2024 06:52 PM (u82oZ)

173 It's like Tower of Babel. We speak but the other side simply can't comprehend what we are saying.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 01, 2024 06:53 PM (fs1hN)

174 Nood
ace on the Middle East

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2024 06:53 PM (u82oZ)

175 "Women's health care" =

"Vacuuming out a baby's brain to collapse the skull so it can be pulled out and discarded"


"Gender Affirming Care" =
"mutilating genitals, lifelong hormone replacement therapy, permanent removal from the gene pool"

Posted by: Bitter, Deplorable Unknown Garbage Under Pressure at November 01, 2024 06:53 PM (rHxhM)

176 It blows my mind but there are people who earnestly believe that, if something happened, it would be in the news.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 06:23 PM

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Though it wasn't his point, Nate Bergatze sort of touched on this phenomenon when he told the (true) story of how he gaslighted his friend by pretending he'd never heard about the Harding-Kerrigan Affair and accused him of making it up.

"If that had happened, they'd have made a '30-30' about it."
"They DID make a 30-30 about it!"
"If that had happened, there'd be a movie about it."
"THEY DID MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT IT!!!"

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 01, 2024 06:55 PM (Sa3se)

177 when it will stop, until it does.

10-1000 feet after the motor let's go.

https://youtu.be/ATV45GXXqgY

Posted by: DaveA at November 01, 2024 06:57 PM (FhXTo)

178 4 + 7 = ___ ?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 06:47 PM (VNX3d)

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"Math is a racist social construct tool of the white cisheteropatriarchal oppressor, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 06:58 PM (O/Gld)

179 Question: why do precisely zero women choose to compete against men?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 01, 2024 06:52 PM (YqDXo)
_____________________________

There was a girl on my high school baseball team. Never started. Only played a few times. Not that great. BUT, loved the game, could recite batting averages like no one's business. A true student of baseball strategy. While playing the game wasn't her forte...I hope she latched onto a coaching position somewhere (which is why I think she tried out for the boys team in the first place...to be able to use that when trying to become a coach). She was an absolute pleasure with whom to talk baseball. And a true trash talker from the bench, which the whole team got a kick out of.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 06:59 PM (dIske)

180 I don't think they are stupid. They are willfully ignorant. My brother is highly educated and intelligent: he teaches astrophysics at the graduate degree level. He is a tried and true elitist, a limousine liberal of the highest order. he lives in California and doesn't believe surfers were arrested during the COVID hysteria because. "I never saw that reported." He simply chooses to ignore factual evidence that contradicts his worldview.

They don't want to believe anything they don't want to, with selective understanding. He railed endlessly about George Santos, but when I mentioned Bob Menendez, he claimed to have no idea what I was talking about.

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Posted by: flea at November 01, 2024 07:03 PM (iPVa5)

182 Yeah, you can see the willfully ignorant mentality on any of these Charlie Kirk videos. Kirk states something. Long haired narcissistic know-it-all says he's making it up. Kirk cites his sources. Know-it-all's final argument is "I don't believe you, Nazi."

(walks away)

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 07:03 PM (dIske)

183 That Overton Window, loaded into a skeet launcher, WHOOSH, right out over the lake.

Posted by: hurricane567 at November 01, 2024 10:12 PM (AOlEL)

184 "Question: why do precisely zero women choose to compete against men?"

Because when sports are played at the top level, even small differences in size and strength can make a huge difference in outcome. That's why Caitlin Clarke, despite being a wonderfully gifted athlete, could never play in the NBA: she's simply too small.

Baseball is one of the few sports where top women could compete with men. For example, three women played in the old Negro League. In the 1990s, the Colorado Silver Bullets were an all-women's team that played against low-A teams, and beat a few of them. Women could also compete with men in shooting sports - Colonel Colt, not the Lord, having made women and men equal. And I fail to understand why there are separate men's and women's tournaments in chess: it's not like massive upper-body strength is needed to advance a pawn.

Posted by: Nemo at November 01, 2024 11:34 PM (S6ArX)

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