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Is Progressivism Dying?

I'm always skeptical of Peak Woke arguments -- arguments that woke has reached its maximum power and is now receding. We've thought the tide had turned before. We were disappointed.

Ruy Teixeira, the liberal Democrat who wrote with great eagerness about The Coming Democrat Majority based on the immigration and fecundity of Hispanics, has been writing a lot of critical pieces about the Democrats' lurch towards Marxism and identity-politics Maoism.

He thinks the Democrats have killed the progressive agenda -- whether or not Kamala wins or not.

The public, he says, simply "hates" this agenda.


How Progressives Blew It

Defund the police. An open border. Identity politics. End the use of fossil fuels. Is it any wonder America turned against the progressive movement?

This article is reprinted from the Substack newsletter "The Liberal Patriot."

It wasn't so long ago progressives were riding high. They had a moment; they really did. Their radical views set the agenda and tone for the Democratic Party and, especially in cultural areas, were hegemonic in the nation's discourse. Building in the teens and cresting in the early '20s with the Black Lives Matter protests and the heady early days of the Biden administration, very few of their ideas seemed off the table. Defund the police and empty the jails? Sure! Abolish ICE and decriminalize the border? Absolutely! Get rid of fossil fuels and have a "Green New Deal"? Definitely! Demand trillions of dollars for a "transformational" Build Back Better bill? We're just getting started! Promote DEI and the struggle for "equity" (not equal opportunity) everywhere? It's the only way to fight privilege! Insist that a new ideology around race and gender should be accepted by everyone? Only a bigot would resist!

Progressives thought they had ripped the Overton window wide open and it remained only to push the voters through it. In their view, that wouldn't be too hard since these were great ideas, and voters, at least the non-deplorable ones, were thirsty for a bold new approach to America's problems.

In reality, a lot of these ideas were pretty terrible and most voters, outside the precincts of the progressive left itself, were never very interested in them. That was true from the get-go, but now the backlash against these ideas is strong enough that it can't be ignored. As a result, politics is adjusting and the progressive moment is well and truly over.

Astute observers on the left acknowledge this, albeit with an undertone of sadness. Progressive Substacker Noah Smith plaintively notes:


I spent pretty much all of the 2010s--my first decade as a writer and pundit--advocating for various progressive causes. . . . In the late 2010s, it felt like a long wave of progressive sentiment. . . had finally reached a critical level of intensity. . . .

A few years later, I'm not so sure. My values haven't become more conservative. . . . But I have to say that I now doubt the practical effectiveness of some of the policies I embraced in previous years.

...

Finally, David Weigel of Semafor observes in his recent article, "No Matter Who Wins, the U.S. Is Moving to the Right":


The Democratic Party, after two decades of leftward post-Clinton drift, has jerked abruptly right. . . . They've adjusted to an electorate that's shifted to the right, toward the Trump-led GOP, on issues that progressives once hoped were non-negotiable--immigrant rights, LGBTQ rights, climate change policies, and criminal justice reform. . . .

Both parties now face voters, white and non-white, who were open to some left-wing ideas about race, crime, and gender in 2020 but are far more skeptical now.

So how did the progressive moment fall apart? It is not hard to think of some reasons.

1. Loosening restrictions on illegal immigration was a terrible idea, and voters hate it. When Joe Biden came into office, he immediately issued a series of executive orders loosening the rules for handling illegal immigrants, a move that was rapturously applauded by progressives. The real-world effects were immediate, as New York Times reporter Miriam Jordan crisply explained:


It is not just because they believe they will be able to make it across the 2,000 mile southern frontier. They are also certain that once they make it to the United States they will be able to stay.

Forever.

And by and large, they are not wrong.

...

"Americans simply do not like the practice of rewarding asylum seekers for crossing the border illegally," writes Smith. Progressives' epic failure to understand this reality is a big reason why the progressive moment is over.

2. Promoting lax law enforcement and tolerance of social disorder was a terrible idea, and voters hate it.

...

[D]emocrats became associated with a wave of progressive public prosecutors who seemed hesitant about keeping criminals off the street, even as a spike in violent crimes such as murder and carjacking swept the nation. This was twinned with non-prosecutions for lesser crimes that degraded the quality of life in many cities under Democratic control. San Francisco practically became the poster child for the latter problem under District Attorney Chesa Boudin's "leadership."

The most enthusiastic supporters of a Boudin-style approach to policing tend to be white, college-educated liberals--the base, as it were, of the progressive movement. The sentiment among pro-Democratic, non-white, and working-class voters toward policing is quite different. These voters tend to live in areas that have more crime and are therefore unlikely to look kindly on any approach that threatens public safety. A Pew poll found that black and Hispanic Democrats--who are far more urban and working class--are significantly more likely than white Democrats to favor more police funding in their area.

A survey conducted for my new report with Yuval Levin, Politics Without Winners, confirmed the strength of these sentiments. By 73--25 percent, they backed keeping police budgets whole in the interests of public safety over reducing these budgets and transferring money to social services. Among non-white working-class voters there was a 30-point margin against reducing police budgets, which ballooned to 50 points among moderate-to-conservative working-class non-whites, the overwhelming majority of this demographic. By contrast, white college-grad liberals favored reducing police budgets by 20 points. That tells you a lot.

As Smith apologetically admits: "The simple fact is that policing works." Who'da thunk it? Progressives own this one, and it is another big reason the progressive moment is over.

3. Insisting that everyone should look at all issues through the lens of identity politics was a terrible idea, and voters hate it. In recent years, huge swaths of the Democratic Party, egged on by progressives, have become infected with an ideology that judges actions or arguments not by their content but rather by the identity of those engaging in them....

But most voters don't believe that....

4. Telling people fossil fuels are evil and they must stop using them was a terrible idea, and voters hate it.

...


Workers far prefer a gradual "all-of-the-above" approach to transitioning the energy system over the frantic push for renewables that characterizes progressives' Green New Deal--type thinking.... An overwhelming 72 percent in the survey favored the all-of-the-above approach, while just 26 percent backed the rapid renewables transition. Views were even more lopsided among working-class voters.

Predictably, progressives' BFFs, white liberal college graduates, were an exception--two to one in favor of getting rid of fossil fuels. But moderate and conservative white college graduates, who vastly outnumber the liberals, were almost seven to one against.

The hard fact is that progressives' hostility to fossil fuels is not widely shared by ordinary voters. In a recent result from a New York Times/Siena College poll, two-thirds of likely voters said they supported a policy of "increasing domestic production of fossil fuels such as oil and gas."

Two-thirds!

...

What comes next? Certainly Kamala Harris is furiously backpedaling from all these positions, but she is not a particularly convincing messenger for a new approach or even able to articulate what that new approach might be. In all likelihood, it will take some time for a new moment to emerge and influence Democrats the way the progressive moment did. Until then, Democrats are stuck with the fallout from the progressive moment, which may fatally undermine them this November 5. We shall see very shortly.

He doesn't even mention the Left's Sexual Nazis attempting to convert boys to girls and girls to boys. I guess there are some things that a liberal critic of progressivism is too afraid to mention.

If Kamala Harris wins, they'll double down on woke and identity politics and DEI and transgenderism for children.

Even if she loses, they'll double down on it-- it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform. Bill Clinton and the Democrat Leadership Council did not win out over the old George McGovern left until 1992, when the Democrats had lost every presidential election except the post-Watergate fluke year of 1976.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:00 PM




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1 If only.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 04, 2024 03:01 PM (ExV1e)

2 How Progressives Blew It

NOT FAIR!!!

Posted by: Kamala Harris at November 04, 2024 03:02 PM (JkO4W)

3 Crazies always get too crazy to hide their crazy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:02 PM (zlGo9)

4 Ok if it is dying so bad why is the furthest left presidential candidate in history in a 49/49 tie?

Posted by: arminius256 at November 04, 2024 03:02 PM (gNlXE)

5 I don't think I am going to hit my food budget goal of zero this week.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (lhenN)

6 4 Ok if it is dying so bad why is the furthest left presidential candidate in history in a 49/49 tie?
Posted by: arminius256 at November 04, 2024 03:02 PM (gNlXE)

Reportedly.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (VnUSN)

7 The great sage Kevin Williamson announced we had reached Peak Leftism about ten years ago. So, yeah. I do think the private sector is in revolt against DEI and so forth, but if the election is properly fortified tomorrow there will be a federal push to set their mind right.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (CaELB)

8 Even if she loses, they'll double down on it-- it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform. Bill Clinton and the Democrat Leadership Council did not win out over the old George McGovern left until 1992, when the Democrats had lost every presidential election except the post-Watergate fluke year of 1976.

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I suspect that the next move will be tactical: mass mail in voting for the nation as a whole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

9 But are Hispanics really that fecund?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W)

10 Good afternoon all!

The best thing that could happen to the Democrats is for Trump to win. Then they can get rid of the freaks who have taken over the party with the justification that they were the reason they lost to the Evil Orange Menace.

Posted by: jmel at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (RWHIh)

11 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better if it were run by an intellectual elite. A Progressive is someone who imagines themselves a part of this elite.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (aD39U)

12 Like a confused boxer with a micro penis, progs just want to see how far they can push it.

Posted by: Mishdog at November 04, 2024 03:04 PM (DXJRA)

13 "Progress," is too pretty a word for Progressivism to be dying.

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2024 03:04 PM (i0F8b)

14 Is Progressivism Dying?

No, they're going for a tie. Like cancer.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2024 03:04 PM (hKf3k)

15 The devil always overplays his hand.

Posted by: Catherine at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (ZSsrh)

16 Democrat: Hmmm. The voters hate our agenda, you say?

Republican: The voters hate your agenda!

The Media: Republicans Pounce on Democrats Agenda

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (RIvkX)

17 Even if she loses, they'll double down on it-- it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform.

Even with the infusion of decent, patriotic, and virile Republicans like Liz Cheney?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (ExV1e)

18 I don't see a lot of evidence that woke politics is toxic. If it was, it's party of choice - Democrats - would be radioactive at the ballot box. They're not. They're very competitive. Saying you hate something but voting for more of it isn't a very serious kind of hate.

Posted by: Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (+n72I)

19 Two things

1. I can’t take seriously anyone who calls themselves a liberal patriot. No such thing exists

2. Progs give no shits what voters think. They are totalitarians and will force their will on the public.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (eNb13)

20 9 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.

Posted by: Mishdog at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (DXJRA)

21 The best thing that could happen to the Democrats is for Trump to win. Then they can get rid of the freaks who have taken over the party with the justification that they were the reason they lost to the Evil Orange Menace.

I still think the Democrats would be in a better position if they had "let" Trump win in 2020 (i.e. not cheated so hard) and then made some deals with him.

Instead, they freaked out.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (1Idb6)

22 >>>The public, he says, simply "hates" this agenda.

A lot of the backlash stems from your principle that you cannot afford socialist luxuries with a socialist economy, paraphrasing.

Shit is getting out of hand expensive and people are being made to make hard choices. It is an invaluable lesson, but painful.

Unfortunately, I think more pain will be required.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (i24o9)

23 A few years later, I'm not so sure. My values haven't become more conservative. . . . But I have to say that I now doubt the practical effectiveness of some of the policies I embraced in previous years.

Have you considered that all of this might be explained by the proposition that you're a big stupid asshole?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (JkO4W)

24 faster please...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (v6XNT)

25 It is only dead if we deport all of the illegals brought in over the past several years. Voting or not, they provide electoral votes for the progressives.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (TUHpb)

26 My theory was they dialed back a lot of their extreme bs woke shit (TV, movies, even news) because they didn't want to scare Trump right back into the WH.

And it's going to get a LOT worse very fast after tomorrow no matter who is selected, I mean elected.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (nBRaJ)

27 20 9 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.


IMO not as bad as "nubile."

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (1Idb6)

28 1. Real Communism has never been tried, so the enemy will just regroup and ram through the next dose of mental clap.

2. As for that kid...Nurse! 400mg IV Testosterone! STAT!
Where do they manufacture these soft-handed people?

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (hWlw8)

29 I hope Ruy Teixeira is right. I don't think he is right. I think this is mostly about him looking for excuses for being wrong about the great endless Dumocrap majority.

Assuming he is wrong. Is he? These tens of millions of filthy illegal alien criminal invaders ain't gonna be voting for the GOP, you know.

If the electorate were the same demographics as during Reagan's era, Trump would win the same landslide he did.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (iFTx/)

30 >>> Posted by: Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (+n72I)

Votes or ballots?

Hard for *anyone* to tell what's really going on if the biggest feedback mechanism is broken.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (zlGo9)

31 Trump has a 16-point lead (56-40) among voters who plan to cast their ballot on Election Day.

Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

32 2. Progs give no shits what voters think. They are totalitarians and will force their will on the public.
Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (eNb13)

Exactly. There's a strong chance 2016 was the last free and fair election because the proles just cannot be trusted.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (CaELB)

33 Who are you calling fecund?

Posted by: Amber Heard at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (nBRaJ)

34 I think it was/is dying, but overturning Roe vs Wade gave it new life. I'm shocked just how far left most of the nation is regarding abortion laws. Even with Republicans moving to the Left on it with policies like 3-4 month legal abortion, it's never enough.

I really, really wish the SC had "split the baby" with Roe vs Wade, but not overturned it outright. It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wMRY8)

35 Just spent the morning teaching civics to the littles, majority and plurality voting, electoral college, state civics, federal civics, and voting processes.

My head hurts.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (i24o9)

36 Gonna give props to Nikki Haley.. She wrote a nice oped in The WSJ urging voters to vote for Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (IyPmt)

37 Progressivism is just an extension of Globalism (I may have that backwards though), so it will never die.

However, I do think we are on the cusp of a major political realignment in this country, the likes of which we haven't had since the 1960s.

It'll be messy, but after it's done, the GOP will not look like the party of Bush, nor, I suspect, with the Democrats look like the party of Biden.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wGun1)

38 I'll believe in the death of Progressivism when the trees along the Interstate Byways are decorated with their swinging corpses.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (z/jjr)

39 Amber Heard but Depp Smelled

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (nBRaJ)

40 Who are you calling fecund?

Posted by: Amber Heard at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (nBRaJ)

If the poo fits . . . .

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (i24o9)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

42 >>> 31 Trump has a 16-point lead (56-40) among voters who plan to cast their ballot on Election Day.
Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

Swamp the Vote.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (zlGo9)

43 31 Trump has a 16-point lead (56-40) among voters who plan to cast their ballot on Election Day.
Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

Considering how he's either leading, tied, or barely down in critical states after the early vote is done, that's about as good as good news can get.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (wGun1)

44 If Trump and the GOP win they must pass legislation to :

Secure the border -!: and throw out all illegals;

Pass voting integrity bill with teeth;

Pass a bill prohibiting trans men from women’s spaces and

Second the Dept of Education and give parents vouchers to send their kids to real schools; and

Drill baby drill.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (fpVC1)

45 Wow.

Another opportunity to go all greys and ace closes the tags.

He's on a ROLL today, fo SHO!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

46 The devil always overplays his hand.
Posted by: Catherine at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (ZSsrh)


Almost as though he were created for that purpose. To seduce the faithless and destroy them with their own folly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (ExV1e)

47 I'll believe in the death of Progressivism when the trees along the Interstate Byways are decorated with their swinging corpses.
Posted by: garrett

$500 fine for littering

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (iNV/s)

48 I'll believe in the death of Progressivism when the trees along the Interstate Byways are decorated with their swinging corpses.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (z/jjr)

I nominate Garrett for the new Department of the Interior and Exterior Decorating.

It will be fabulous.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (i24o9)

49 Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (z/jjr)

Do not forget that the Death and Acceleration of Progressivism look very similar indeed.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (nBRaJ)

50
Evil will always be there.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (+oR7L)

51 We can only pray that it is.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (N1DT3)

52 >>> 48 I'll believe in the death of Progressivism when the trees along the Interstate Byways are decorated with their swinging corpses.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (z/jjr)

I nominate Garrett for the new Department of the Interior and Exterior Decorating.

It will be fabulous.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (i24o9)

Imperial Auditor.

Traditionally, there are nine.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (zlGo9)

53 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 2h
Just in case you needed more motivation vote for Trump

Resist CBDC @Resist_CBDC 15h
“If Trump becomes President again in 2024 … it will be the final death blow…to what remains of the global order.”
- Yuval Harari
========
"Author, historian, and thought leader Yuval Noah Harari..."

"At a rally in Tel Aviv this past summer held by Israel's beleaguered left, Yuval Noah Harari appeared as the keynote speaker."

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (hovnC)

54 11 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better if it were run by an intellectual elite. A Progressive is someone who imagines themselves a part of this elite.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Plenty of evidence that our colleges have produced too many useless twats in make up disciplines. Overproduction of elites creates societal problems as it is not an expanding pie there.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (ctrM5)

55 Saying you hate something but voting for more of it isn't a very serious kind of hate.
Posted by: Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (+n72I)


It could be both a serious hate and a profoundly stupid one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (ExV1e)

56 Send SWAT to kill Peanut and Fred tells me progressivism will not go gentle into that good night.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (W/lyH)

57 I really, really wish the SC had "split the baby" with Roe vs Wade, but not overturned it outright. It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.

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Roe was a stain on our country and an egregious ruling. Overturning it was a necessary and proper step regardless of the short-term consequences.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (sX1BW)

58 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.

IMO not as bad as "nubile."
Posted by: Lance McCormick


"Pulchritude."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)

59 since we're on the very eve of the First Turning, I would expect "Progressivism" to lose its steam.

I would not surprise to see a reactionary rightward shift in future, within ten years, a totally different climate in the USA

although a rightward shift in public consciousness would only bring us back to dead center, which is fine.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2024 03:10 PM (dCxaZ)

60 Kari Lake has a WAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 04, 2024 03:10 PM (A2iSa)

61 If Trump and the GOP win they must pass legislation to :

GASSSSS

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (60GtU)

62 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.

IMO not as bad as "nubile."
Posted by: Lance McCormick


"Pulchritude."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)



"Moist."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

63 We will have to have the burning times first.

Shit like this doesn't end easily.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (NtVYv)

64 It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wMRY

There were more abortions per year after Roe fell than while it was in place.

Striking down Roe and returning the issue of abortion (rightfully) to the Several States didn't slow the slaughter at all.

AND the leftists get to panic-pron on the issue.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (A0ECY)

65 29 I hope Ruy Teixeira is right. I don't think he is right. I think this is mostly about him looking for excuses for being wrong about the great endless Dumocrap majority.

-----

It is mostly justified terror. If Kamala is elected or "elected," which remains quite possible, all those millions of illegals will be voting further and further left. And if the oligarchs and the National Security State that control this hot garbage of a country permit Trump to take office, all stops will be pulled to prevent deportation and illegal alien voting. Teixeira knows where this will go. He owns a lot of it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (CaELB)

66 Progressives/leftists are suicide bombers for their ideology. Beware. It doesn't matter at all if they see what they are doing isn't "working". The ideology is never wrong. The solution is to double down.

Posted by: SamIam at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (oasF3)

67 So yeah, we were right about things over here, and we knew we were right, and you were completely fucked in the head, and we knew you were fucked in the head, and now you're finally waking up to it but are still too pig headed to openly admit we were right all the time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (wyMQY)

68 >>> 53 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 2h
Just in case you needed more motivation vote for Trump

Resist CBDC @Resist_CBDC 15h
“If Trump becomes President again in 2024 … it will be the final death blow…to what remains of the global order.”
- Yuval Harari
========
"Author, historian, and thought leader Yuval Noah Harari..."

"At a rally in Tel Aviv this past summer held by Israel's beleaguered left, Yuval Noah Harari appeared as the keynote speaker."
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (hovnC)

Can *that* disgusting genocidal pile of filth get *types* *deletes*?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (zlGo9)

69 There's a strong chance 2016 was the last free and fair election because the proles just cannot be trusted.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat


2016 was fraudulent as well, just not fraudulent enough. The dems nearly killed the pollsters who underestimated the number of ballots needed. 2012 was fraudulent, too. An incumbent doesn't lose that many votes and still win. Maybe 2008 was only slightly fraudulent.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (2DkvE)

70 Roe was a stain on our country and an egregious ruling. Overturning it was a necessary and proper step regardless of the short-term consequences.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (sX1BW)

No, no. Trying to curtail abortion might upset the normies.

Amazing how the GOP promised it for years, launching themselves into a few presidencies and congressional majorities along the way, but as soon as an R actually does it they get all Oh No The Karens!!!

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (nBRaJ)

71 I'M FECUND BABIEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Madison Cornbread at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (JkO4W)

72 That article seems to presume that these were strategic moves.

This is like atheists telling Catholics to just drop the whole pro-life stuff as it is a loser in the pews.

They have those positions because they truly believe.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is the end of the junta at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (+dyWr)

73
The dem party is about to have a turning over (by nature). Bernie, Nancy, Joe, Bill,Hillary, Chuck, Pochahantas, Hoyer, etc are in their 80's or close to it. The gatekeepers are on their way out. The new guard coming up are twice as nasty. There will be a bit of a power struggle, but once their running on all cylinders.....watch out.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (+oR7L)

74 "At a rally in Tel Aviv this past summer held by Israel's beleaguered left, Yuval Noah Harari appeared as the keynote speaker."
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:09 PM (hovnC)

So, someone who has always wanted Netanyahu to surrender to Hamas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (wyMQY)

75 >>“If Trump becomes President again in 2024 … it will be the final death blow…to what remains of the global order.”
- Yuval Harari


This thing is going to be hard for well over 4 hours if people keep trying to get me to Vote Trump.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (z/jjr)

76 Is Progressivism Dying?

No. Most certainly not. What is happening is part of the cycle of marching endlessly left. The left's entire strategy is to go full hard up the ass with the full insane leftwing agenda. The more insane, the better.

Some of it will stick. Mission accomplished. The vast majority will not stick -- this time. But there is always a next time with these people. And they know that next time will be more successful because the people will have been softened a bit by their earlier attempt(s).

We saw this with gay marriage in real time. The lunatics over-blew their cock with the tranny shit. For now. They will retrench and try again. And again. And again.

The left might be on the run. For now. They will be back, and more insane than ever.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

77 58 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.

IMO not as bad as "nubile."
Posted by: Lance McCormick

"Pulchritude."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:10 PM (v6JzV)

furdle

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (VnUSN)

78 71 I'M FECUND BABIEEEEEEE!
Posted by: Madison Cornbread at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (JkO4W)

Well just don't get any on me, hoecakes. I just showered.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (DDGz9)

79 Resist CBDC @Resist_CBDC 15h
“If Trump becomes President again in 2024 … it will be the final death blow…to what remains of the global order.”
- Yuval Harari
========

Is it too late for Trump to put this in an ad?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (2DkvE)

80
Roe was a stain on our country and an egregious ruling. Overturning it was a necessary and proper step regardless of the short-term consequences.
Posted by: SH (no more socks)
___

I agree that it was an absolutely terrible ruling and it never should have happened. I'm just not sure if it was worth the consequences to overturn.

Democrats will be running on this for decades and it continues to be a winning issue for them.

I would feel better if at least there were "better" abortion laws as a result, but most states seem to be getting worse than what we had before. At least for 45+ states.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (wMRY8)

81 >>He thinks the Democrats have killed the progressive agenda

Or progressives have killed the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is the end of the junta at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (+dyWr)

82 36 Gonna give props to Nikki Haley.. She wrote a nice oped in The WSJ urging voters to vote for Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (IyPmt)

She had no choice. She sees what happened to Liz Cheney, and it's a clear sign that she has no home with the Dems now that they have their female RINO. Tulsi is looked at more favorably with the MAGA crowd than she is, and she knows that to stay even remotely relevant in the next four years she has to sidle up to Trump as best as she can. Problem is, however, that she's not fooling anybody these days.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (t6WSm)

83 Conspiracy Theory of the Day: Jill Stein's lawsuit in MI was an attempt by "some people" to get a better insight into what exactly went wrong with the 2016 Steal.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (nBRaJ)

84 Will this half elf, half cat-girl get you to vote?

https://tinyurl.com/4d4hj25p

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (VDiWY)

85 I missed the orignal posting of the dumb comment and saw the reposting with comment. I thought to myself damn that was non-smart...yep.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (Z8Yh2)

86 Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:12 PM (2DkvE)


Possibly. Subtlety was still employed if so.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (CaELB)

87 A few random thoughts. History is always hard to decipher when you're in the middle of it. That's why it's called History.

I think the pendulum is slowly swinging away from the post-WWII "global unity" with nations holding hands in the UN. Yes, there have been major conflicts (vietnam) and countless smaller one, but vietnam was fought on the fridge. The US and Soviets didn't directly engage. It was the UN era.

That era seems to be dying.

In its place will come more nationalism, and that will lead to more warfare. It's just the natural way of things.

America's role in the world will change too, probably to one that is more content to be isolated and self-reliant.

These things might take another 50-100 years, but I feel like it's moving in that direction.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (wGun1)

88 Well just don't get any on me, hoecakes. I just showered.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (DDGz9)

=====

Hoecakes. LOL.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (DRSnL)

89 Fecund
Facetious
Feces


All crappy words

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (NtVYv)

90 RIP Peanut, whisked away from us into Harambe's loving arms.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (lhenN)

91 The Obama era will die as soon as the forces behind it deem it unhelpful to the cause. The reason such an unpopular platform became so dominant is because they were useful to their deep state masters. Now that it's become so toxic its usefulness is coming to an end.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (LkLld)

92 Resist CBDC @Resist_CBDC 15h
“If Trump becomes President again in 2024 … it will be the final death blow…to what remains of the global order.”
- Yuval Harari

I can’t vote for him any harder man. Stop it.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (eNb13)

93 Abortion will only be truly outlawed when politicians no longer need a way to get rid of their bastards.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (hWlw8)

94 The left might be on the run. For now. They will be back, and more insane than ever.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

Classic Marx.
Two steps forward. One step back.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (W/lyH)

95 Whether or not progressivism is dying is irrelevant, the country is mostly dead, and if they can install Kamblabla and her Markist Gimp VP, the policies of the last 4 years remain, another 10m-16m illegals come pouring over the border, couple that with non-existent job growth and we will be looking at a catastrophic implosion in roughly two years time.

I prepping my own Benedict Option if things go sub-optimally tomorrow.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (XV/Pl)

96 Reportedly.
Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (VnUSN)

Yes, acknowledged. But in the country I grew up in this margin would be so wide it couldn't be faked by anyone. This is not the country I grew up in anymore

Posted by: arminius256 at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (gNlXE)

97 He thinks the Democrats have killed the progressive agenda

Or progressives have killed the Democrat Party.


Make both true

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (VDiWY)

98 OT: None of you Morons made a joke re: IDF micro-targetting Hezbollah?

Work on it.

Posted by: DaveA at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (FhXTo)

99 The left might be on the run. For now. They will be back, and more insane than ever.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

Classic Marx.
Two steps forward. One step back.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (W/lyH)
_________

Correct

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (iFTx/)

100 I prepping my own Benedict Option if things go sub-optimally tomorrow.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (XV/Pl)

Add some tarragon to your hollandaise. It really makes a difference.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (DDGz9)

101 100

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (VnUSN)

102 Is Progressivism Dying?

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Wouldn't that be a good thing if it were true but I think we have yet to see the worst of the monster. They will be most dangerous when they start losing power. We thought sending in a swat team to a man's house to arrest and kill a squirrel was horrible, wait until they come for the children.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (unUNN)

103 The ratchet turns one way.

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (i0F8b)

104 RIP Peanut, whisked away from us into Harambe's loving arms.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (lhenN)


I am still enraged about that whole deal. Power corrupts

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (NtVYv)

105 Passing a law enforcing voter integrity will require a ton of creative thinking. The Supreme Court seems pretty adamant that it's an issue that should be left to the states, even if that means some states have wildly more relaxed laws than others.

The fraudulent elections in Cali affects the fair elections in Alabama, so it seems like there should be some role for the Federal government to get involved, but how to do it (and how to do it in a way that doesn't open the door to Democrats just imposing a nation-wide vote-by-mail) is the tricky part.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (wGun1)

106 But are Hispanics really that fecund?

We have a test for that.

Posted by: New York Dept. of Animal Services SWAT Team at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (1dUol)

107 What’s the source for that 56-40 lead?

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (eNb13)

108 Democrats will be running on this for decades and it continues to be a winning issue for them.

--------------

I disagree on this, but time will have to tell. I think it is a very big issue for their 40+ single female base for whom abortion isn't even necessary to prevent babies. Abortion has been a national issue their whole lives. As the states debate it out and settle things, it will wane on the national side. Eventually some states will start making things more restrictive (some already have) ... and let's give that some time to grow.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (sX1BW)

109 I'M FECUND BABIEEEEEEE!
Posted by: Madison Cornbread at November 04, 2024


***
Madison, dear, you produce an enormous amount of words in tweets and emails. Perhaps one might term you . . .

. . . fecund rate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (J2vNu)

110 >>Add some tarragon to your hollandaise. It really makes a difference.


This. Fresh Tarragon in your vinegar makes it authentic.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (z/jjr)

111 102 Is Progressivism Dying?

-----------------

Wouldn't that be a good thing if it were true but I think we have yet to see the worst of the monster. They will be most dangerous when they start losing power. We thought sending in a swat team to a man's house to arrest and kill a squirrel was horrible, wait until they come for the children.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (unUNN)

We thought that Communism died in 1989, and it turned out that it was always with us. So, no.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (t6WSm)

112 105 Passing a law enforcing voter integrity will require a ton of creative thinking. The Supreme Court seems pretty adamant that it's an issue that should be left to the states, even if that means some states have wildly more relaxed laws than others.

The fraudulent elections in Cali affects the fair elections in Alabama, so it seems like there should be some role for the Federal government to get involved, but how to do it (and how to do it in a way that doesn't open the door to Democrats just imposing a nation-wide vote-by-mail) is the tricky part.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (wGun1)

========

The Voting Rights Act is still on the books.

The feds definitely can dictate to the states how they run federal elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

113 The ratchet turns one way.

Posted by: davidt


Ronald Reagan says "exsqueeze me?".

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (xCA6C)

114 None of this shit matters.

Dems have become one-issue voters.

Remove abortion from the ballot and they have no plank to run on.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (KbCG3)

115 I prepping my own Benedict Option if things go sub-optimally tomorrow.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2024 03:15 PM (XV/P

I don't think eggs benedict can save you.

Posted by: breakfast of champions at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (+n72I)

116 >>> 102 Is Progressivism Dying?

-----------------

Wouldn't that be a good thing if it were true but I think we have yet to see the worst of the monster. They will be most dangerous when they start losing power. We thought sending in a swat team to a man's house to arrest and kill a squirrel was horrible, wait until they come for the children.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (unUNN)

They already have been doing this.

I expect them to do all the things they normally do, all at once, and up to eleventy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (zlGo9)

117
If ideas mattered anymore I would take the point and appreciate it. They don't.

IN-YOUR-FACE Wednesday is fast approaching...

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (j4U/Z)

118 Progressivism used to be an intellectual movement visualizing some utopian future towards which man was progressing, just needing a little help now and then from various brain-trusts.

It has devolved into a low-IQ fad that sees "progress" as anything that isn't happening right now. It boils down to "Whatever is, is bad. Whatever is next, is good." Which is stupid and unsustainable. (So is original progressivism, but at least they dressed better)

Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (TL7UX)

119 "Ruy Teixeira, the liberal Democrat who wrote with great eagerness about The Coming Democrat Majority based on the immigration and fecundity of Hispanics, has been writing a lot of critical pieces about the Democrats' lurch towards Marxism and identity-politics Maoism."

Ruy is now at AEI. How the heck did that happen?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (t6WSm)

120 Will they walk off the plank?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (VDiWY)

121 Progressivism will never die it's a sub-dominant occurrence in our DNA. Women are more prone to have it than men but it occurs in men also. When the progressive gene occurs in both man and woman who mate it is more likely to occur as dominant in their offspring.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (kkYD1)

122 In its place will come more nationalism, and that will lead to more warfare. It's just the natural way of things.

-------------

Someone should write a book.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (sX1BW)

123 Afternoon.

Is progressivism dying?

I mean if it were I'd be bashing the bidhop so goddamn hard but I'm not do it isn't.

Posted by: Robert at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (4LSVq)

124 Send SWAT to kill Peanut and Fred tells me progressivism will not go gentle into that good night.
Posted by: Diogenes
======
Actually those fake cops are likely to be the ones to run and hide. Notice none of them are patrolling the mean streets but rather going after a guy with animals and executing a squirrel and raccoon. Not smart.

Perfect example of Scut Farkas and his sidekick Butch in uniforms.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (ctrM5)

125 WWIII is going to change a lot of things in ways that people can't even comprehend.

Posted by: pawn at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (QB+5g)

126 The Voting Rights Act is still on the books.

The feds definitely can dictate to the states how they run federal elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

Great point.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (t6WSm)

127 Wokies try to destroy everything that helps us be prosperous, happy, safe, or free & then ridicule us if we complain, scold us if we resist.

Gee. Wonder why people get fed up?

Posted by: JQ at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (njWTi)

128 Class Warfare will always be popular and helpful to the satanist agenda.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (nBRaJ)

129 Will they walk off the plank?

Magic 8-Ball says will they? Hell, they're already in mid air.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (xCA6C)

130 First off, they're not "progressives." They're communists.

Now to return to our program in progress.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

131 27 20 9 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.

IMO not as bad as "nubile."

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (1Idb6)
----
Nubile always evokes Nubian - I see these very black fellahs.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono fecondi at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (i0xsb)

132 >>I don't think eggs benedict can save you.


I like Eggs Florentine more.

But, either made well, should be able to usher in Global Peace, imo.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (z/jjr)

133 WWIII is going to change a lot of things in ways that people can't even comprehend.

---------------

Positively glowing

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (sX1BW)

134 My comment about bashing bishops should not be taken to be an anti-Catholic slur. I meant that I'd be jerking off quite vigorously.

Jerking off is what truckers do best.

Posted by: Robert at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (4LSVq)

135 A lot of this woke stuff will just disappear when everyone is scrambling to get a 1000 calories a day.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (aD39U)

136 Perfect example of Scut Farkas and his sidekick Butch in uniforms.
Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (ctrM5)


Had a kid in the neighborhood growing up who went by Butch. We called him Butich

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (NtVYv)

137 Progressivism ins't dying now any more than it did when Wilson left office. It just metastasizes into the next trendy euphemism for communism.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (3Ope8)

138 I also see the Dems needing years in the wilderness to realize that woke progressivism is not a political winner. I hope they don't adopt a new strategy until after the second Trump term and the second Vance term.

Posted by: Dave at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (nLwaa)

139 121 Progressivism will never die it's a sub-dominant occurrence in our DNA. Women are more prone to have it than men but it occurs in men also. When the progressive gene occurs in both man and woman who mate it is more likely to occur as dominant in their offspring.
Posted by: Braenyard
=======
I doubt it is genetic . Tends to be socialization and that each succeeding age cohort tends to repudiate what the generation before them has done.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (ctrM5)

140 125.

I hope the first Chinese bomb hits the bridge of my nose. I don't have the patience to go through WW3 surrounded by all the retards we have in America now.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (hWlw8)

141 Classic Marx.
Two steps forward. One step back.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024


***
Or, you know, the reverse . . .

Posted by: Paul aAbdul, Lo, These Many Years Ago at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (J2vNu)

142 Treathe owner of an adopted squirrel like a drug cartel boss — and killing his d@mn squirrel and raccoon was a stupid idea, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (Hkcdp)

143 Nubile always evokes Nubian - I see these very black fellahs.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono fecondi at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (i0xsb)



I can see we're not looking at the same websites.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:20 PM (JkO4W)

144 Progressivism is the belief that society would be better if it were run by an intellectual elite. A Progressive is someone who, very much mistakenly, imagines himself a part of this elite.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (aD39U)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (YqDXo)

145 WWIII is going to change a lot of things in ways that people can't even comprehend.

Posted by: pawn at November 04, 2024 03:18 PM (QB+5g)

Which is why it's handy to own property on or near moving water, outside the outskirts of the big cities.

Oh. And owning guns.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (A0ECY)

146 Robert

Are you beating the bishop again?

Finally got something 'not sensitive' to post

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (VDiWY)

147 Are we confident or nyet?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (Ud7de)

148 Finally, David Weigel of Semafor observes in his recent article, "No Matter Who Wins, the U.S. Is Moving to the Right":


The Democratic Party, after two decades of leftward post-Clinton drift, has jerked abruptly right. . .

-------------------

This is what it looks like when the gaslight is turned down but you insists that it's just fine.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (unUNN)

149 A lot of this woke stuff will just disappear when everyone is scrambling to get a 1000 calories a day.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (aD39U)

Enough with the egg comments.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (nBRaJ)

150 I also see the Dems needing years in the wilderness to realize that woke progressivism is not a political winner.

It's a cyclical thing. It usually takes about generation and a half for people to forget why they renounced bad leftist ideas in the first place. We are now at inflection point of the swing back.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (xCA6C)

151 Ruy is now at AEI. How the heck did that happen?
Posted by: Darrell Harris
========
$$$$$, Chamber of Commerce has lots of $$$ to buy people off. That in part is why a certain percentage of progressives end up being bought off by interest groups.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (ctrM5)

152 None of this shit matters.

Dems have become one-issue voters.

Remove abortion from the ballot and they have no plank to run on.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 04, 2024 03:17 PM (KbCG3)
________

I'm not so sure. Yes, abortion is some kind of creepy cultish issue for them that they cling to with the strength of Kumswala's mouth on Willie Brown's dick. But they are also 99.99% aligned on every other leftwing issue too. Abortion may be their rallying cry, but they are lockstep on every other leftwing issue.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

153 130.

And not "workers".

They are employees.

Americans are Employees.
Commie bastards are Workers.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (hWlw8)

154 55 Saying you hate something but voting for more of it isn't a very serious kind of hate.
Posted by: Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (+n72I)

--

See also: smokers.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (wzAuc)

155 Classic Marx.
Two steps forward. One step back.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024


Mrs. Teasdale just adored that step.

Posted by: Groucho Marx at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (JkO4W)

156 An expert on Latin America told Fox News Digital that many Latin Americans hope for a Trump victory on Nov. 5.

Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (RHGPo)

157 The names and labels change. Woke, liberal, progressive. It Al means the same. Hatred of western values and prosperity.

The ideas never change and never go away. When the Cold War ended everyone thought communism was dead. It was dormant for a decade or so then came roaring back. In the 2000s.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (eNb13)

158 RIP Peanut, whisked away from us into Harambe's loving arms.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2024 03:14 PM (lhenN)


I am still enraged about that whole deal. Power corrupts
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 04, 2024 03:16 PM (NtVYv)
***

As mentioned earlier, Mrs D has gone crazy on this story. My question: Why wasn't there one person in this whole sorry chain of events, to stand up and say "Wait a minute. Isn't this a little overboard?"
But no.
There wasn't.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (W/lyH)

159 We are now at inflection point of the swing back.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (xCA6C)

Give it two days before making this pronouncement. I beg you.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (nBRaJ)

160 Trump has a 16-point lead (56-40) among voters who plan to cast their ballot on Election Day.
Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

Considering how he's either leading, tied, or barely down in critical states after the early vote is done, that's about as good as good news can get.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 04, 2024 03:08 PM (wGun1)


*remains fully zipped up*

Posted by: Doof at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (08qhB)

161 And not "workers".

They are employees.

Americans are Employees.
Commie bastards are Workers.
Posted by: Sifty

I thought the approved term was "associates" now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (v6JzV)

162 Abortion may be their rallying cry, but they are lockstep on every other leftwing issue.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

This is not accurate.

See: Israel and illegal immigration for starters.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (A0ECY)

163 I really, really wish the SC had "split the baby" with Roe vs Wade, but not overturned it outright. It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.
Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wMRY

They couldn't because legally, the problem with Roe v Wade was that it was *never* a federal issue and never should have been a federal issue, and to make it one was a huge usurpation of state power by the Fed Gov and a fatal blow to our system of Federalism. That's what they undid, that's all they undid, and there was no other way to deal with the horrible original ruling than to dump it completely and give it back to the States.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (wyMQY)

164 I'm not so sure. Yes, abortion is some kind of creepy cultish issue for them that they cling to with the strength of Kumswala's mouth on Willie Brown's dick. But they are also 99.99% aligned on every other leftwing issue too. Abortion may be their rallying cry, but they are lockstep on every other leftwing issue.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

Here are two candidates that support the ending of fossil fuels.

They also support mandatory gun confiscation and ending 2A.

They're both open borders zealots and want to jail Trump.

This one is pro-choice. YAYAYAY!

This one is pro-life. NAZI FAGGOT MOTHERFUCKER!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (KbCG3)

165 they will never stop. ever.

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (NGHTx)

166 So much effort spent over centuries, so much ink spilled, on this perpetual null-ideology of "fuck you, give me your shit so I don't have to do anything".

It's not an ism. It's not an ology. It's not a system of any kind.

It's just the naked awful shittiness of mankind gussying itself up with excuses and trying to baffle everyone with bullshit. Never has not been.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (DDGz9)

167 I thought the approved term was "associates" now.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (v6JzV)



Teammates.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (aD39U)

168 ThePersistence
@ScottPresler
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Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (hovnC)

169 But are Hispanics really that fecund?

Born pregnant?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (60GtU)

170 >>> 159 We are now at inflection point of the swing back.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (xCA6C)

Give it two days before making this pronouncement. I beg you.
Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (nBRaJ)

It is possible this is true and will be reflected in something other than voting, if not immediately. I would very much *prefer* if OrangeManBad crushed Kamala in the Electoral College, but if not, well...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (zlGo9)

171 I thought the approved term was "associates" now.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (v6JzV)


I like "minion" or "toadie" best.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (JkO4W)

172 Progressivism is much like rust, it never sleeps.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (VDiWY)

173 Nubile always evokes Nubian - I see these very black fellahs.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono fecondi at November 04, 2024
*
I can see we're not looking at the same websites.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024


***
There was a character called in the credits, and referred to in the dialog, "The Nubian" in the 1932 The Mummy w/ Boris Karloff. He looked pretty black for those days.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (J2vNu)

174 Not only does Weigel miss the creepy AF transing of kids, he forgot the COVID TYRANNY.
Closing churches and gyms while allowing booze and pot shops to remain open, separating families so that’ they couldn’t see them before they died and then not allowing funerals. Creating mass hysteria that resulted in communities with neighbors and friends turning on one another over masking, sheltering, etc. Destroying the livelihoods of do, so many..

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (Hkcdp)

175 Born pregnant?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism

Tribbles!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (v6JzV)

176 Is Progressivism Dying?

Why are these Sacks of Vindman Shit called this ??.

They SUCK and everything they do takes us 10 steps backward toward Communism.......

Posted by: Franklin Stein at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (houUd)

177 Progressivism will never die it's a sub-dominant occurrence in our DNA. Women are more prone to have it than men but it occurs in men also.
__________________

It's not genetic, except in the sense that women want and expect to be taken care of, so replacing father/husband with government is an easy transition.

Men go in for "progressive" rubbish because they think they'll be the ones in power.

Generally speaking, they're wrong.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (YqDXo)

178 My question: Why wasn't there one person in this whole sorry chain of events, to stand up and say "Wait a minute. Isn't this a little overboard?"
But no.
There wasn't.

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See Covid.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (sX1BW)

179 I don't see a lot of evidence that woke politics is toxic. If it was, it's party of choice - Democrats - would be radioactive at the ballot box. They're not. They're very competitive. Saying you hate something but voting for more of it isn't a very serious kind of hate.
Posted by: Proof of the Pudding is in the Eating at November 04, 2024 03:05 PM (+n72I)

Ask Disney and Bud Light. Wokism is propped up by very powerful groups, but they die propping it up.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (n7h9X)

180 I really, really wish the SC had "split the baby" with Roe vs Wade, but not overturned it outright. It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.
Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wMRY

They couldn't because legally, the problem with Roe v Wade was that it was *never* a federal issue and never should have been a federal issue, and to make it one was a huge usurpation of state power by the Fed Gov and a fatal blow to our system of Federalism. That's what they undid, that's all they undid, and there was no other way to deal with the horrible original ruling than to dump it completely and give it back to the States.


Agree. It wasn't a matter of deciding the latest point in a pregnancy when an abortion was acceptable, it was saying "we shouldn't have made the decision in the first place".

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (xCA6C)

181 191.

I'll have to consult the style guide.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (hWlw8)

182 Re: the ratchet only turning one way, Carl Benjamin made the comparison between Woke and the Muslim Conquest in a recent video.

When the early Muslim conquest ran up against unconquerable Constantinople, it was held at bay for nearly a thousand years, and spent that time consolidating - after which, the Turks took Constantinople.

I'm sure it felt like a win when the Muslims were initially stymied, but their side played the long game and for keeps: you don't hear anyone talking about decolonising the Hagia Sofia, do you?

On the other hand, I like to consider the Reconquista.

Posted by: Ham Biscuits at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (fuMk8)

183 I don't see at all how the Democrat Party has moved Right post-Clinton, with the small concession that a few months before an election, they have sort of pretended that they now care about border security. But even Obama was calling for walls/fences.

I think for modern progressivism to truly put in its place, we need to get the economic side of it again and people to understand how bad it is. Like 90% tax rates, wealth taxes etc. We need a decade of malaise and stagflation.

Right now, most progressivism is mostly in the form of extreme stances on social issues and hating Donald Trump.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (wMRY8)

184 But are Hispanics really that fecund?

Born pregnant?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 04, 2024


***
"Be a great timesaver, wouldn't it?"
( -- Dr. McCoy, about the tribbles)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (J2vNu)

185 Now talking Tribbles...

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (VDiWY)

186 Oh, and of course: vax mandates, firings for resisting them.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (Hkcdp)

187 163 I really, really wish the SC had "split the baby" with Roe vs Wade, but not overturned it outright. It gave new momentum to the Democrat Party with younger voters and if anything it seems abortion laws have gotten worse post-Roe vs Wade.
Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:07 PM (wMRY

They couldn't because legally, the problem with Roe v Wade was that it was *never* a federal issue and never should have been a federal issue, and to make it one was a huge usurpation of state power by the Fed Gov and a fatal blow to our system of Federalism. That's what they undid, that's all they undid, and there was no other way to deal with the horrible original ruling than to dump it completely and give it back to the States.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (wyMQY)

I don't want SCOTUS to 'split the baby'. If something is unconstitutional, it needs to go. Half the problems we have with SCOTUS are because they go by half measures when whole hog is the much better way to go. It gives the other side hope when there should be none.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (t6WSm)

188 181 191.

I'll have to consult the style guide.
Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (hWlw8

Weird. You pre-quoted.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (Ud7de)

189 In the late 2010s, it felt like a long wave of progressive sentiment. . . had finally reached a critical level of intensity. . . .



You misspelled insanity.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (ClonV)

190 This guy is an idiot. You don't tell people - hey, I'm giving you Marxism or Kommie-ism or Whatever-ism, is that OK? You lie to them about it. You always have to lie about it. You lie to their face, lie by omission, gaslight everyone 24/7, scare the shit out of them. And if that doesn't work, open the F-ing border and let in everyone who doesn't give a shit about America. By the time people realize what really happened, it's too late.


Posted by: Tuxedo Tom at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (xtKM4)

191 Abortion may be their rallying cry, but they are lockstep on every other leftwing issue.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

This is not accurate.

See: Israel and illegal immigration for starters.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (A0ECY)
___

Ummm ... if you poll the abortion lunatics, there is 100% chance that 99% of them are pro-Hamas and pro-open borders. If you are looking for a hardcore pro-abortion lunatic who supports Israel and/or want's strong borders, I doubt you'll ever find one.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (iFTx/)

192 174 Not only does Weigel miss the creepy AF transing of kids, he forgot the COVID TYRANNY.
Closing churches and gyms while allowing booze and pot shops to remain open, separating families so that’ they couldn’t see them before they died and then not allowing funerals. Creating mass hysteria that resulted in communities with neighbors and friends turning on one another over masking, sheltering, etc. Destroying the livelihoods of do, so many..

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:24 PM (Hkcdp)

And the biggest tyrants are still in power. Hell, Cuomo only left because his party ran a coup on him.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

193 #168 Important too:

ThePersistence @ScottPresler 3h
Please listen.

If your wife vote early — meaning by mail— use this link.

I am trying to make things as easy as possible, but you must follow instructions:

https://is.gd/FLNYAq

⬆️

The OTHER link is for checking voter registration status. This one is for tracking ballots

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (hovnC)

194 My question: Why wasn't there one person in this whole sorry chain of events, to stand up and say "Wait a minute. Isn't this a little overboard?"
But no.
There wasn't.

--------------

See Covid.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (sX1BW)

There were those who said that in Covid. And they were attacked, cancelled, had jobs taken away. But with time many of those attacked are enemies not instead of questioners, and the system is a bit weaker. The good will of the people for those in charge is weaker meaning they can do less than before.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:27 PM (n7h9X)

195 Weigel also forgets the ghoulish abortion celebration, and insisting it be legal at any time, for any reason, even if the baby survives births.

Masks are OFF for those activists.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:27 PM (Hkcdp)

196 The most enthusiastic supporters of a Boudin-style approach to policing tend to be white, college-educated liberals--the base, as it were, of the progressive movement.

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But of course, these are the intellectual powerhouses who don't know which river and which sea when they chant at anti-Israel protests and don't know that they are wearing terrorist scarves while doing it.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:27 PM (unUNN)

197 Due to the emergence of COVID-19 as a new COVID-24 Virus .........

All Democrats are encouraged to stay inside your home till Thursday to help fight this biological disaster created by Trump....

Posted by: The Department of Homeland Security at November 04, 2024 03:27 PM (houUd)

198 >>Agree. It wasn't a matter of deciding the latest point in a pregnancy when an abortion was acceptable, it was saying "we shouldn't have made the decision in the first place".

Which is exactly what Ruth Bader Ginsberg, hero to "progressive" women everywhere, said all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:27 PM (LkLld)

199 I thought the approved term was "associates" now.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (v6JzV)
*
I like "minion" or "toadie" best.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024


***
"Harmony has . . . minions??!!??"
( -- Buffy Summers, giggling uncontrollably at the thought dimwitted Mean Girl -- and vampire -- Harmony could have such a thing)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (J2vNu)

200 I seriously doubt progressivism is dead. The left never stops, never sleeps and never gives up.

Best to beat them to a bloody pulp now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (Q4IgG)

201 I'm not so sure. Yes, abortion is some kind of creepy cultish issue for them that they cling to with the strength of Kumswala's mouth on Willie Brown's dick. But they are also 99.99% aligned on every other leftwing issue too. Abortion may be their rallying cry, but they are lockstep on every other leftwing issue.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Separate progressives though from the Dems that just want gubmint as a Pez dispenser. Leftist are about 22-25 percent of the population and about half the Dem party activist and voter base. They are overwhelmingly college degree or higher, work in service, tech, or knowledge industries, and believe in utopia.

The other half are more urban, poorer, less educated, and just want their check or to be left alone to do what they do--not the other woke shit like limiting soda size, getting rid of junk food, inedible Michelle Obama approved school lunches, trannies, and so on.

Much of the same dynamic of the cultural revolution in China which the generals in the PLA eventually squashed and made Mao into a mascot rather than leader of the Chi Coms. Chou En Lai and Deng replace Mao's Gang of Four.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (ctrM5)

202 No matter what the SC did, the Democrats would have run on RvW being trashed either already, now, or if you elect the next guy.

Have some of you people never met a leftist?

It's called hung for a sheep as a lamb. May as well save some 8 month old babies while we're taking the abuse.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (nBRaJ)

203 They were suspending the medical licenses of doctors who were not on board with Covid narrative.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (Hkcdp)

204 Admiral Josh Painter would know what to do.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (S3bHI)

205 FUN FACT: A dynasty of Nubians actually ruled Egypt for almost 100 years. Until the neo-Assyrians ran their asses back into Nubia, that is.

I guess this is where Rev. Al got the idea that blacks had great civilizations until the white man snatched them away and stole all the credit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (JkO4W)

206 Agree. It wasn't a matter of deciding the latest point in a pregnancy when an abortion was acceptable, it was saying "we shouldn't have made the decision in the first place".
Posted by: Archimedes
__

I have sort of stopped worrying about conservative "purity", ultimately the SC is just another political branch.

There's all sorts of longstanding precedence that's still technically with us, but has been cut down to size to where it's largely ignored.

I think the SC could have green lit laws states further regulating abortion without saying "Roe vs Wade is now dead" and kicking off this hysteria.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (wMRY8)

207 Ask Disney and Bud Light. Wokism is propped up by very powerful groups, but they die propping it up.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (n7h9X)

The Bud Light fiasco led to sales dropping 25% or something like that. Which is significant. But also says 75% of the public doesn’t give a shit either or supports it. The calculus is we will take our chances with the 75% and hope the other 25% eventually forget.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (eNb13)

208 Ask Disney and Bud Light. Wokism is propped up by very powerful groups, but they die propping it up.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:25 PM (n7h9X)

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Neither company is close to being dead. Look at Disney stocks now compared to 30 years ago. It's 10X higher.

Posted by: Tuxedo Tom at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (xtKM4)

209 161 And not "workers".

They are employees.

Americans are Employees.

Posted by: Sifty

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"Working families" is an odd choice for the left, too, since they've pretty much criminalized working in your mom and dad's restaurant.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (wzAuc)

210 I seriously doubt progressivism is dead. The left never stops, never sleeps and never gives up.


You are correct. The next wave is always a generation and change away.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (xCA6C)

211 > Which is exactly what Ruth Bader Ginsberg, hero to "progressive" women everywhere, said all along.

Didn't RBG basically say she agreed with the outcome, she just thought "privacy" was the wrong peg to hang their hat on?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (Odg76)

212 But of course, these are the intellectual powerhouses who don't know which river and which sea when they chant at anti-Israel protests and don't know that they are wearing terrorist scarves while doing it.
Posted by: Decaf
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Religion based behavior with the media, celebrities, and pols as high priests.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (ctrM5)

213 If you are looking for a hardcore pro-abortion lunatic who supports Israel and/or want's strong borders, I doubt you'll ever find one.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (iFTx/)

Ah. I thought we were talking about Democrats in general.

Yes. If you're an 'abortion at 9 weeks, abortion at 9 months' kind of person, you're absolutely pro-genociding the Jews and pro-erasing the borders.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (A0ECY)

214 200 I seriously doubt progressivism is dead. The left never stops, never sleeps and never gives up.

Best to beat them to a bloody pulp now.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (Q4IgG

Same. Communism is a long con. They never stop. Even in Hell.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (Ud7de)

215 And the biggest tyrants are still in power. Hell, Cuomo only left because his party ran a coup on him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 04, 2024 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

Which makes them weaker. Cuomos were a powerful political powerhouse in the 80s. Gonna be president someday for sure. Daily MSM influencer for even the least brother.

Now....nothing. That makes the system weaker too.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (n7h9X)

216 I see Ben Shapiro was on Bill Maher's show and opined, "The weird thing about this election cycle is that positionally Trump is the most moderate candidate in Republican history."

and you know what? He's correct.

Take Trump's 2024 platform and compare it to any pre-Trump election in he modern era and...he's the moderate between the D and the R...

Now platforms and how you govern are two separate things...true. But just compare Trump's stance on any of the notable issues of the day from trannies to starting wars of choice to immigration and he's smack in the middle. Biden/Harris has gone so far left that to them a moderate Democrat... is "far right wing"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:30 PM (oZhjI)

217 Finally got something 'not sensitive' to post
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2024 03:21 PM (VDiWY)

Cute girls? Telling *me* to vote?!?

Oh...alright. But only cuz they're cute.

Posted by: Robert at November 04, 2024 03:30 PM (4LSVq)

218 Can we call a nation wide 5150 on democrats who will harm themselves and others by voting for cumswalla?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 04, 2024 03:30 PM (60GtU)

219 >>I think the SC could have green lit laws states further regulating abortion without saying "Roe vs Wade is now dead" and kicking off this hysteria.

They just would have picked another cause like mutilating children.

Doing the right thing often has a cost. You still do the right thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:30 PM (LkLld)

220 209 161 And not "workers".

They are employees.

Americans are Employees.

Posted by: Sifty

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Neither of these sound like me.

Posted by: Funemployee at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (wzAuc)

221 "No, it's not that this beverage is poisonous, it's just that we had the wrong slogan~!"

F that guy and everyone like him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (IG4Id)

222 219.

Fuckin A, Bubba.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (S3bHI)

223 @EricLDaugh
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BREAKING: GOP wins case against deep-blue Cobb County, Georgia, which wanted to accept 3,000 mail-in votes after the Election Day deadline.

RNC Chair Whatley: "We just got word that we WON the case. Election Day is Election Day."

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

224 Others are watching, too:
https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII
/status
/1853149956674077018

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (zlGo9)

225
Promoting lax law enforcement and tolerance of social disorder was a terrible idea, and voters hate it.

__________

Promoting full-term abortion is a terrible idea, and AWFLs love it. In fact, we'll get all the other terrible ideas in spades because of it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (EsZUh)

226 Progressivism will never die it's a sub-dominant occurrence in our DNA. Women are more prone to have it than men but it occurs in men also. When the progressive gene occurs in both man and woman who mate it is more likely to occur as dominant in their offspring.

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I doubt it is genetic . Tends to be socialization and that each succeeding age cohort tends to repudiate what the generation before them has done.
Posted by: whig
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If it were simply a repudiation of its predecessor it wouldn't necessarily have to be a desegregation or a movement toward weakening of society.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (kkYD1)

227 216 I see Ben Shapiro was on Bill Maher's show and opined, "The weird thing about this election cycle is that positionally Trump is the most moderate candidate in Republican history."

and you know what? He's correct.

Take Trump's 2024 platform and compare it to any pre-Trump election in he modern era and...he's the moderate between the D and the R...

Now platforms and how you govern are two separate things...true. But just compare Trump's stance on any of the notable issues of the day from trannies to starting wars of choice to immigration and he's smack in the middle. Biden/Harris has gone so far left that to them a moderate Democrat... is "far right wing"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:30 PM (oZhjI)

Trump is not a conservative. He's a true, common-sense, pro-America moderate. That, of course, makes him more conservative than 85% of the GOP.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (t6WSm)

228 "Working families" is an odd choice for the left, too, since they've pretty much criminalized working in your mom and dad's restaurant.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (wzAuc)

And getting married and having babies.

But working families means lower class families with children. "Family Businesses" was the term for the restaurant thing...or Family Farms for farms.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (n7h9X)

229 Ugh.

Anxiety is an evil bitch. And it's contagious.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (j2zRt)

230 Defund the police. An open border. Identity politics. End the use of fossil fuels. Is it any wonder America turned against the progressive movement?

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Normalizing pedophilelia and permanently mutilating children?

How is that not a winning message ...

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws Out YOU! at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (6Zm3x)

231 I'm not so sure. Yes, abortion is some kind of creepy cultish issue for them that they cling to with the strength of Kumswala's mouth on Willie Brown's dick. But they are also 99.99% aligned on every other leftwing issue too.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Separate progressives though from the Dems that just want gubmint as a Pez dispenser. Leftist are about 22-25 percent of the population and about half the Dem party activist and voter base. They are overwhelmingly college degree or higher, work in service, tech, or knowledge industries, and believe in utopia.

The other half are more urban, poorer, less educated, and just want their check or to be left alone to do what they do--not the other woke shit like limiting soda size, getting rid of junk food, inedible Michelle Obama approved school lunches, trannies, and so on.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (ctrM5)

I think we're saying the same thing. My point was about hardcore pro-abortion lunatics being lockstep on every other leftwing issue. Not about Democraps in general. Some just want their checks and aren't motivated by woke shit. But the abortion lunatics aren't part of that group. They are hardcore leftist

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

232 Back from the beer store in my part of Canada.

People are expecting....uhmm....entertainment.

Posted by: Stateless at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (jvJvP)

233 They came for our beef.

Sorry AOC your tight dresses don't overrule a good burger.

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (xhfG9)

234 /silly literary reference...

Tomorrow's election is like the knife fight between Paul and Feyd.

One way or another all hell is going to break loose.

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (i0F8b)

235 Progressiveism ain’t dead. It is not truly dead until shaitan’s in the lake of fire.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (LHPAg)

236 If you are looking for a hardcore pro-abortion lunatic who supports Israel and/or want's strong borders, I doubt you'll ever find one.

I know a bunch of AWFLs that will tell you they are single issue, abortion at any point, voters. And if you offer up a Republican with the same view on abortion they'll immediately ask "Does he support science?" or "Is he willing to protect trans kids?" or "Is he in favor of accepting undocumented refugees?"

And in each case of the answer is no they won't vote for him. Because they are lying when they say they are single issue voters - they are socialists and want socialism and wokeism and will vote for the candidate that offers more of both...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (oZhjI)

237 Why is tomorrow so important for all Americans?

It's the NFL trade deadline.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (NLIak)

238 ThePersistence @ScottPresler 4h
Here is the link, again, to track your Pennsylvania mail-in ballot status:
https://is.gd/FLNYAq


Looks legit, as I reached the same URL by starting at pa.gov and hunting around

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (xjAvD)

239 Even if she loses, they'll double down on it-- it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform.
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Possible, but not necessarily. If we're at an inflection point - and we might be, but that is also the crux of the argument - then things can move *very* quickly. If we're business-as-usual, then yeah. Decade or more.

But if we are at an inflection point, then it could be much, much faster. What if "Corporate America" suddenly gets cold feet over profitability collapse and cuts off support? What if a major news net fails as a result of this crap? What if a major online platform dies? These things are unlikely, but could act as huge accelerators.

Or the other direction, of course, in which case everything becomes permanent and continues to worsen until everything falls apart. It could go either way, because inflection points are a bitch. The curve can knee down hard or the curve can knee up hard.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (HnUIn)

240 Imma put gas in the cars tonight.

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (xhfG9)

241 Anxiety is an evil bitch. And it's contagious.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (j2zRt)

You're not an evil bitch, though, and hope is also contagious.

Maybe not hope for how this election turns out, but hope that eventually, they'll lose. In this life or the next.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (A0ECY)

242 >>224

O'Keefe: "I’m on the ground somewhere right now, in disguise."

I'm picturing him dressed up like Inspector Clouseau.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (eb5mD)

243 So in other words, all these dickheads grew up and began to understand personal responsibility.

Posted by: The_Hoser at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (3qNLt)

244 So much effort spent over centuries, so much ink spilled, on this perpetual null-ideology of "fuck you, give me your shit so I don't have to do anything".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:23 PM (DDGz9)
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But that doesn't explain left-wing billionaires.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

245 Didn't RBG basically say she agreed with the outcome, she just thought "privacy" was the wrong peg to hang their hat on?
Posted by: bonhomme

From memory, her argument was to use equal protection of the laws. Been awhile since I read her academic works outlining her disagreement with Roe. But basically, Ginsberg when she practiced law tried to get Scotus to use strict scrutiny of sex classifications similar to the way they treated race using the Equal Protection clause.

From what I remember, the biggest problem when a case involving classification by sex went to Scotus was that Justice Powell refused Brennan's entreaties for strict scrutiny, the other four conservatives wanted the current at the time rational basis test, and Powell was the swing vote. Brennan cobbled together intermediate scrutiny which Powell could sign on with. Part of Powell's objection was that women would be subject to the draft and this decision was prior to the end of it.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (ctrM5)

246 229.

You aint kidding.

Anxiety and depression are lying, evil little fuckers who will ruin your whole election season and life in general.

Please take a pamphlet from the lobby.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (S3bHI)

247 O'Keefe: "I’m on the ground somewhere right now, in disguise."

I'm picturing him dressed up like Inspector Clouseau.


He'd better not bring a minkey. That would be a giveaway.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (xCA6C)

248 Throughout history the power hungry have come up with ways to power. "Divine Right" theocracy, Jacobinism, Marxism , fascism , Nazism , Kampuchea etc. Even the present "progressive" may fade, some other yutz will come up with a new theory and rinse, repeat

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (aRslG)

249 I think we're saying the same thing. My point was about hardcore pro-abortion lunatics being lockstep on every other leftwing issue. Not about Democraps in general. Some just want their checks and aren't motivated by woke shit. But the abortion lunatics aren't part of that group. They are hardcore leftist
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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I agree.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (ctrM5)

250 231 I think we're saying the same thing. My point was about hardcore pro-abortion lunatics being lockstep on every other leftwing issue. Not about Democraps in general. Some just want their checks and aren't motivated by woke shit. But the abortion lunatics aren't part of that group. They are hardcore leftist
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

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I think most people are just soft-partisans, culturally attached to their party of choice and forget about it most of the time until the Super Bowl (the election) comes around.

They're not ideologues. They're not political. They're partisan.

The ideologues break out into two camps: ideologues and partisans who think they're ideologues. Most abortion supporters think they're the former but they're actually the latter. They'll find whatever reason to support their partisan choice. Pro-choice R vs. Pro-choice D, they'll vote for the D every time. Heck, they'd probably vote for a pro-life D because "it's the only way to win" or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

251 Deep blue Cobb County is a bit of an exaggeration. It’s more like 55-45 Blue. It’s nothing near Fulton County blue. Used to be deep red once upon a time That was part of New Gingrich’s district. Part of the reason GA went from east R win to swing state, suburban Atlanta is now Democrat.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (eNb13)

252 Progressivisms isn't dying just as conservatism is dying. It seems to me that these two societal/political endpoints begin in our DNA. Instead, once again it seems to me, that their is an eternal ebb and flow about which one becomes dominant. Over the last 100 years the USA has been dominated by an every growing progressivism. That blew up when Trump was elected and the Left knew it intellectually and viscerally and goes far in explaining their relentless drive to destroy him. If he wins the election and I think he will, if Congress goes Republican, there is a legit shot at dismantling the last years leftist insanity and tearing apart the administrative/deep state. If this comes to pass progressivism will recede until conditions change. Trump should win this election with 300+ EVs; all he has to survive the all out leftist attack to deny him being inaugurated, a non-trivial thing. Everything is in the air.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (tPMOE)

253 >>> 240 Imma put gas in the cars tonight.
Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (xhfG9)

Good idea to top off things in general.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (zlGo9)

254 It could go either way, because inflection points are a bitch.
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True dat. - Nicolae Ceausescu

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (YqDXo)

255 it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform.

The last time the Dems had a moment like this was 1988. They had sold themselves for a generation as the third way between Soviet communism and Western capitalism and Soviet communism exploded.

But it didn't take a decade. They reformed as it was happening and ran some southern Dem and won on cutting taxes and...school uniforms. So if they decide wokeism is hurting them they'll tell the activists to shut up, pay them to do something else, and keep raking in government dollars.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (oZhjI)

256 Anxiety is all in your head.

Just remind yourself of that and it goes away.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (z/jjr)

257 They just would have picked another cause like mutilating children.

Doing the right thing often has a cost. You still do the right thing.
Posted by: JackStraw
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The difference is, mutilating children is politically unpopular. Abortion, sadly, is popular even in red states.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (wMRY8)

258 236
And in each case of the answer is no they won't vote for him. Because they are lying when they say they are single issue voters - they are socialists and want socialism and wokeism and will vote for the candidate that offers more of both...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:33 PM (oZhjI)

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I am a single-issue voter:

On copyright law.

I will only vote for candidates who promise to repeal the Sonny Bono Act and return copyright to 28 years with an options extra 28 years that must be applied for.

I am militant about this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

259 If Kamala Harris wins, they'll double down on woke and identity politics and DEI and transgenderism for children.

Even if she loses, they'll double down on it-- it will take 10-16 years in the political wilderness to finally shock the Democrat Party leadership into kicking out the wokies and implementing party-wide ideological reform.

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First things first, win this election then fight the progressives with all our might because the next one will be even nastier. Media* is the only reason the progressives have such power so the demise of the media as we know it is essential.

*The media is just a mouthpiece for the sugar daddies who fund them and that would be the WEF aligned billionaires with illusions of being smart.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (unUNN)

260 Natalie Portman's spaceship from The Phantom Menace, the one that looked like a chrome-plated SR-71, was powered by a Nubian hyperdrive, IIRC.

Posted by: spindrift at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (OguvZ)

261 Throughout history the power hungry have come up with ways to power. "Divine Right" theocracy, Jacobinism, Marxism , fascism , Nazism , Kampuchea etc. Even the present "progressive" may fade, some other yutz will come up with a new theory and rinse, repeat
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2024 03:35 PM (aRslG)
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Maybe the next one will be interesting, instead of just another boring, predictable collectivist retread like all of them have been since Marx.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (HnUIn)

262 suburban Atlanta is now Democrat

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A lot of east coast liberals moved their post-college.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (sX1BW)

263 BREAKING: GOP wins case against deep-blue Cobb County, Georgia, which wanted to accept 3,000 mail-in votes after the Election Day deadline.

RNC Chair Whatley: "We just got word that we WON the case. Election Day is Election Day."
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

————————

Major difference between 2020 and 2024.

RNC 2020: That’s not right, but whatcha gonna do?
RNC 2024: To the ramparts!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (u73oe)

264 RNC data analyst says the early voting numbers are catastrophic for dems. Either they aren't coming out for her, or they didn't exist in 2020.

U pick door number two.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (ZK3FY)

265 And in each case of the answer is no they won't vote for him. Because they are lying when they say they are single issue voters - they are socialists and want socialism and wokeism and will vote for the candidate that offers more of both...

until supporting it costs them something personally instead of it just being a way to get social validation points.

the revolution will eat the AWFLs too

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (NGHTx)

266 264 RNC data analyst says the early voting numbers are catastrophic for dems. Either they aren't coming out for her, or they didn't exist in 2020.

U pick door number two.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (ZK3FY)

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It's what I've been saying.

Doesn't mean that Democrats won't turn out on election day or that Democrats won't cheat.

But they're in a very, very big hole right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

267 Neither company is close to being dead. Look at Disney stocks now compared to 30 years ago. It's 10X higher.
Posted by: Tuxedo Tom at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (xtKM4)

Inflation is a thing. Their stocks are so bad stockholders were trying to force out the management.

Disney can't make a movie than anyone wants to see. Careers on the web are made just trashing them. Park visits are catastrophically

I lived in the era post Disney's death when Disney was meh, not the dominant power. But they never lost families. They have now.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (n7h9X)

268 >>O'Keefe: "I’m on the ground somewhere right now, in disguise."


Gay Executive: "I'm feeling a bit of anxiety myself, right now."

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (z/jjr)

269 256 Anxiety is all in your head.

Just remind yourself of that and it goes away.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (z/jjr)

Amen.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:38 PM (VnUSN)

270 216 I see Ben Shapiro was on Bill Maher's show and opined, "The weird thing about this election cycle is that positionally Trump is the most moderate candidate in Republican history."
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Whoever thought that Sanity would be the most important part of a campaign platform.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2024 03:38 PM (kkYD1)

271 Ugh.

Anxiety is an evil bitch. And it's contagious.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 04, 2024 03:32 PM (j2zRt)

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Courage -- like cowardice -- is also contagious.

"Courage is not the absence of fear but the realization that something else is more important than fear." -- Some old, dead, white dude

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws Out YOU! at November 04, 2024 03:38 PM (6Zm3x)

272 John Roberts @johnrobertsFox 4h
.@realDonaldTrump opens his Raleigh rally with this announcement:
If he wins, on day 1 he will tell Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum to stop migrant traffic from flowing through Mexico. If she refuses, he will slap a 25% tariff on every Mexican product coming into the U.S.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 04, 2024 03:39 PM (hovnC)

273 The Left NEVER capitulates or admits defeat. A massive disapproval of the agenda only means two things:

1. Enlisting the media to misrepresent to support numbers.
2. Legislate compliance.
3. Wait for the apathetic public to accept as the new normalcy.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2024 03:39 PM (dIske)

274 Don't get cocky

This post is before all the recounts

Posted by: black pill delivery service at November 04, 2024 03:39 PM (k0m39)

275 It wouldn't necessarily have to be a degradation...

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2024 03:39 PM (kkYD1)

276 I went out and stocked up on supplies so I can ride things out if the post election apocalypse comes to pass. And if it doesn't I have enough snacks and booze to last until the new year. USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (tPMOE)

277 "Have some of you people never met a leftist?"

Harsh but fair.

"They are being honest about THIS issue".

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (Z8Yh2)

278 265.

I look forward to seeing CCTV footage of packs of feral commies hunting down wine moms and journalice in Central Park when the food runs out.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (LBdqZ)

279 >> If she refuses, he will slap a 25% tariff on every Mexican product coming into the U.S.


HEADLINE: Avocado Prices set to Skyrocket with Trump Victory

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (z/jjr)

280 Disney can't make a movie than anyone wants to see. Careers on the web are made just trashing them. Park visits are catastrophically

I get ads for Disney parks all the time. Each one is clearly a bored paid actor showing how wonderful the parks are.

My favorite Disney ad though was something like "Why bother saving your money when you don't even know if you'll live to spend it?!? Come to a park today and have fun!"

I am not kidding.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (oZhjI)

281 >>The difference is, mutilating children is politically unpopular. Abortion, sadly, is popular even in red states.

So let the voters of the individual states decide on it. Abortion should never have been a federal issue.

The rate of abortions has gone up since Roe was overturned. It's a complete non-issue other than abortion fanatics obsessing and lying about it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

282 which wanted to accept 3,000 mail-in votes after the Election Day deadline.
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For Democracy!!!

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (nBRaJ)

283 Imma put gas in the cars tonight.
Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024


***
I filled up the Buick on Saturday and have used only about a gallon so far. This morning I extracted some cash at the ATM, and will spend a little on some more canned goods at the grocery tonight. Y'know, "just in case."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (J2vNu)

284 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (VnUSN)

285 But that doesn't explain left-wing billionaires.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Easy, they no longer have to fear working for a living and they then turn to aspirational goals of things money cannot buy--like societal acceptance.

French salons funded by wealthy aristos were of the funders of leftism before the Revolution. They never realized that it was not a game to a bunch of power mad evil people like Marat, Robespierre, and so on.

Rich leftists wanting autonomy from laws and society push to maximize that autonomy but finance striving social climber assholes to form a coalition to overturn the present regime. Revolution occurs and then it goes sour for the rich funders. The strivers have the guns and the rich have wealth and power to loot.

Rich assholes get et by the revolution--the end.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (ctrM5)

286 ... My favorite Disney ad though was something like "Why bother saving your money when you don't even know if you'll live to spend it?!? Come to a park today and have fun!" ...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (oZhjI)
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That's inflation marketing.

"It ain't gonna be worth shit tomorrow, so spend it today."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (HnUIn)

287 223 @EricLDaugh
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44s
BREAKING: GOP wins case against deep-blue Cobb County, Georgia, which wanted to accept 3,000 mail-in votes after the Election Day deadline.

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I'm confused, how does Cobb County know how many mail-in votes are coming in after Election day?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (wzAuc)

288 She might not be far from the truth...

Alexandra Lains
@realalexlains
What are we wearing tomorrow?

Sorry, it’s my first Civil War.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (TGPs7)

289
Progressives will push their position, no matter how extreme. They'll push and push. They don't care if it's unpopular. They don't care how many seats they sacrifice. They just keep pushing.

And one day, they get the Dems to enact them. They don't care about any electoral cataclysm afterwards. Because they know that when that stake is driven, nothing is going to pull it out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (EsZUh)

290 >>> Ruy Teixeira, the liberal Democrat who wrote with great eagerness about The Coming Democrat Majority based on the immigration and fecundity of Hispanics, has been writing a lot of critical pieces about the Democrats' lurch towards Marxism and identity-politics Maoism.

Ha assumed Hispanics, a group that is fiercely pro family, working class, and socially conservative, would swallow all of the Democrat lies, and sacrifice their families and their cultures on the altar of woke.

Turns out, they won't. No se puede!

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (QAK8m)

291 Didn't RBG basically say she agreed with the outcome, she just thought "privacy" was the wrong peg to hang their hat on?
Posted by: bonhomme

From memory, her argument was to use equal protection of the laws. But basically, Ginsberg when she practiced law tried to get Scotus to use strict scrutiny of sex classifications similar to the way they treated race using the Equal Protection clause.

From what I remember, the biggest problem when a case involving classification by sex went to Scotus was that Justice Powell refused Brennan's entreaties for strict scrutiny, the other four conservatives wanted the current at the time rational basis test, and Powell was the swing vote. Brennan cobbled together intermediate scrutiny which Powell could sign on with.
Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:34 PM (ctrM5)
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I also recoil RBG didn't like Roe because it's limitation on abortion rights was tied to viability of the fetus. She recognized that advancements in medical tech would keep pushing the date of viability to earlier in the pregnancy, meaning the state would have more power to regulate abortion earlier in the pregnancy.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (iFTx/)

292 It isn't all doom and gloom.

I bought pudding cups.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (LBdqZ)

293 I will scratch up a cigar for tomorrow and start drinking at 1800 ETEX time, will open a laptop and NEWSMAX, put my feet up and hang on. I have 5 bags of popcorn.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (LHPAg)

294 "Working families" is an odd choice for the left, too, since they've pretty much criminalized working in your mom and dad's restaurant.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:29 PM (wzAuc)
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C'mon, it's straight-up marketing. Hard-left types know it's bullshit, designed to appeal to the cognitively-disenfranchised.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

295 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?

I think Biden was kicked out because plot to kill Trump failed.

Of course the second plot by some Nat Sec resource failed too and Kamala is still running

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (oZhjI)

296 287 223 @EricLDaugh
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44s
BREAKING: GOP wins case against deep-blue Cobb County, Georgia, which wanted to accept 3,000 mail-in votes after the Election Day deadline.

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I'm confused, how does Cobb County know how many mail-in votes are coming in after Election day?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (wzAuc)

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I think this is related to the kerfuffle this weekend when a handful of GA counties tried to remain open past their early voting deadline to accept mail in ballots.

So, they must have received 3,000 ballots this weekend, and the GOP sued to not count them since they were received after the deadline.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

297 67 So yeah, we were right about things over here, and we knew we were right, and you were completely fucked in the head, and we knew you were fucked in the head, and now you're finally waking up to it but are still too pig headed to openly admit we were right all the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2024 03:11 PM (wyMQY)

"You're right, but I want to win anyway, because f*** you. I'm blowing this shit up so you can't have it!"

--Leftists.

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (UnA8+)

298 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?

Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (VnUSN)

I don't think Pelosi thought Kamala would even be the candidate. I think Biden fucked the entire party on the way out. Deliberately and with malice aforethought. I think he's a mean, spiteful, small, cowardly man and acted as those men tend to act when they feel 'wronged.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (A0ECY)

299 But they're in a very, very big hole right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

Yes. Her name is Kamala.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (nBRaJ)

300 If Trump wins Pennsylvania, He really owes a lot of thanks to Scott Pressler. That guy is a good guy to have on your side.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (+oR7L)

301 Progressivism is dying because the practical outcomes are not good.

Illegal immigration (open borders) for example has been an absolute failure: the crime, expense, and lack of assimilation.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2024 03:43 PM (jyAD3)

302 After hearing about xenopronouns and abrosexuality, I was pretty sure that we’ve reached peak wokeness. Encouraging mental illness will bring it to its logical conclusion.

Posted by: Unkaren at November 04, 2024 03:43 PM (NOEjP)

303 130 First off, they're not "progressives." They're communists.

Now to return to our program in progress.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

To paraphrase Peej O'Rourke, communists worship Satan. Socialists think perdition is a good system run by bad people. And progressives think we should all go to hell because it's warm there in the winter.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 04, 2024 03:43 PM (LxER7)

304 If you define "progressivism" as the ideology of Dewey and Rawls and all them, then yes, Progressvism is pretty much dying to the extent it even exists at all. The people who claim to belong to "progressivism" don't follow any sort of coherent ideology at all. To the extent the have a philosophy at all, it's basically a spolied-brat knee-jerk nihilism. Everything good is bad. Everything bad is good. Pick an issue. Champion the worst possible facet of that issue. Call anyone who opposes you a Fascist. Repeat until some enterprising young shitbird invents an even worse facet of the issue to champion so they can in turn call YOU the Fascist.

It's not an ideology. It's just a bunch of spoiled brats playing Daddy Look At Me while Daddy is off fucking the maid and embezzling everything he can from the office until he gets caught.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:43 PM (DDGz9)

305 But it didn't take a decade. They reformed as it was happening and ran some southern Dem and won on cutting taxes and...school uniforms. So if they decide wokeism is hurting them they'll tell the activists to shut up, pay them to do something else, and keep raking in government dollars.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM (oZhjI)

They didn't run a Dem, all the powers stepped away and Clinton ran as somebody different than a Dem...southern and friendly and all. And when he got in big trouble both in his leftish policies and in sex scandals he ran right and got more done for us than any GOPe would have on Welfare. And he made tax raising poison for the Dems until Obama.

Now, though, the question is CAN they tell their activists to shut up and get away with it? What if they don't shut up?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (n7h9X)

306 I'm confused, how does Cobb County know how many mail-in votes are coming in after Election day?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:41 PM (wzAuc)
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Yeah, I wonder. (looks at overheated copying machine)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (YqDXo)

307 Alexandra Lains
@realalexlains
What are we wearing tomorrow?

Sorry, it’s my first Civil War.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2024


***
Yankee Blue or Butternut Rebel Gray . . .

Wait. That ain't right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (J2vNu)

308 Bill Clinton and the Democrat Leadership Council did not win out over the old George McGovern left until 1992, when the Democrats had lost every presidential election except the post-Watergate fluke year of 1976.

social media did not exist in that 16 year period.

Now the message that it's ok to leave the plantation gets boosted and amplified by technology we all carry in our pockets and handbags.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (dCxaZ)

309 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?
Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (VnUSN)

They expected Trump to be deleted.

And yes the plan started with the June "debate".

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (nBRaJ)

310 out of my immediate family of 7 only 2 are voting Kalamama, and 1 of them has TDS so bad his testicles ascended

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 03:44 PM (v0R5T)

311 If Trump wins Pennsylvania, He really owes a lot of thanks to Scott Pressler. That guy is a good guy to have on your side.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (+oR7L)

Put him in charge of outreach and give him a modest budget. What he has done with pocket change is amazing.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (n7h9X)

312 I don't think Pelosi thought Kamala would even be the candidate. I think Biden fucked the entire party on the way out. Deliberately and with malice aforethought. I think he's a mean, spiteful, small, cowardly man and acted as those men tend to act when they feel 'wronged.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024


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Or . . . DOCTOR Jill steered him into it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (J2vNu)

313 307

tiger stripe is the new black

Rhodesian earth tones look good in the Fall.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (LBdqZ)

314 It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience to be a leftist billionaire. Gas is $10 a gallon to pay for green bullshit, makes no difference to you. Public schools are shit, you don’t care your kids go to $60k a year private schools. Crime is out of control? Whatever. Your guard gated neighborhood doesn’t suffer.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (eNb13)

315 262 A lot of east coast liberals moved their post-college.

post turtle > post college

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (sGtp+)

316 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?
Posted by: m at November 04, 2024 03:40 PM (VnUSN)

—————

I don’t think they wanted Kamala.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (u73oe)

317 Major difference between 2020 and 2024.

RNC 2020: That’s not right, but whatcha gonna do?
RNC 2024: To the ramparts!
Posted by: Duke Lowell
___


I genuinely believe the conspiracy theory Ronna was the equivalent of the crooked prison guard that selectively decides when they're going to intervene.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (wMRY8)

318 When the wall came down in Berlin, I thought Thank God that's over. I figured after a catastrophic failure of that magnitude, no way would it ever again gain credence in the West, yet here it is.

Wokeism/Marxism/Progressivism--whatever you call this satanically inspired ideology--is viral. It may lie dormant in the ice for a while, but it will never die.

Posted by: troyriser at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (DPeYO)

319 Ok if it is dying so bad why is the furthest left presidential candidate in history in a 49/49 tie?
Posted by: arminius256 at November 04, 2024 03:02 PM (gNlXE)

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They need us to believe it so we accept the steal. Without lying and cheating they've got nothing.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (unUNN)

320 I am concerned about reliance on early voting numbers. Dems usually vote early! Well, no, not really. Comparing to 2020 numbers is apples and oranges giving we were then living in an "emergency."

Republican early voting HAS to cannibalize ED votes. Dems can turn out on ED. They can harvest votes like crazy.

Regardless I feel Trump is going to win by a lot. All this there's only .1% difference in the polls in every state! bs is bs

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (xhfG9)

321 Just remember, whatever happens tomorrow...

As imperfect a man as Trump is, he was the best spokesperson for the traditional conservative American dream since Reagan. He assembled top notch across the aisle team to support and carry his message. And whatever happens, at least he was honest about his path vs the path of the democrats.

Also remember: in 2016 the RINOS wanted jeb! As the republican nominee. In 2024, they wanted Nikki Haley. Whatever happens, the will of the conservative base has shifted from what the GoP elites want, and it's not going back. Thank goodness!

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (QAK8m)

322 Biden was no better than Kamala. Not in the slightest.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (WPL6O)

323
tiger stripe is the new black

Rhodesian earth tones look good in the Fall.
Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (LBdqZ)



Tiger King fell in love in prison and is marrying the dude as soon as he gets out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

324 It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience to be a leftist billionaire. Gas is $10 a gallon to pay for green bullshit, makes no difference to you. Public schools are shit, you don’t care your kids go to $60k a year private schools. Crime is out of control? Whatever. Your guard gated neighborhood doesn’t suffer.
Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:45 PM (eNb13)
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I think it's VDH who has spent years saying - correctly - that those most responsible for developing these policies have no skin in the game because they don't have to live with the consequences of those policies. Break schools? Who cares. Their kids go to private school. Let criminals run the streets? Who cares. They live behind walls.

The trailblazers of these policies are immune to these policies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (HnUIn)

325 Now, though, the question is CAN they tell their activists to shut up and get away with it? What if they don't shut up?

This is the easy part - the establishment dems still control the funding sources so...yes. They'll turn off anyone that doesn't stick with the narrative.

Remember when Barky got elected and Cindy Sheehan kept protesting? Most of her allies abandoned her and told her to stop. Her funding dried up and...then Obama had her arrested while the FNM stopped covering her.

She was the most notable face of the anti-war movement which had been the most important part of the left and then...she was just forced out of the public sphere.

They can do the same thing with trannies or MAPs or any other group...if they decide it is in their interest to do so

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (oZhjI)

326 302 After hearing about xenopronouns and abrosexuality

xenomorph > xenopronoun

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (sGtp+)

327 Kamala has been the plan all along.

They knew when they put her a feeble heartbeat or bloody eye squirt away from everything.

She is who they want. Might not seem right but it is. No one becomes the Demorat nominee by accident, least of all someone who didn't require a single vote to get there.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (nBRaJ)

328 Is Progressivism Dying?

We have to win this election to make sure it does.

If we don't? *shudders*

Posted by: WisRich at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (G0vdT)

329 320 I am concerned about reliance on early voting numbers. Dems usually vote early! Well, no, not really. Comparing to 2020 numbers is apples and oranges giving we were then living in an "emergency."

Republican early voting HAS to cannibalize ED votes. Dems can turn out on ED. They can harvest votes like crazy.

Regardless I feel Trump is going to win by a lot. All this there's only .1% difference in the polls in every state! bs is bs
Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (xhfG9)

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Republicans are turning out at roughly the same number as 2020. They're cannibalizing nothing.

Democrats are missing literally tens of millions of voters. Sure, they can turn out on election day, but ever since the advent of early voting...they haven't.

It could happen, but everything is pointing to: the tens of millions of missing ballots from 2020...were never genuine. Take tens of millions of votes from Biden in 2020, and what do you get?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

330 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W)

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Of course not and that's why they need the totally open border.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (unUNN)

331 323

Living his or hers best life. Depending on the swaps that day.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (LBdqZ)

332 Ok if it is dying so bad why is the furthest left presidential candidate in history in a 49/49 tie?
Posted by: arminius256
......

she isn't

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (v0R5T)

333 Biden was no better than Kamala. Not in the slightest.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (WPL6O)

At least Biden has an excuse. His brain's broken.

What's Kamala's excuse? Her spunk trumpet cock socket won't form the right words?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (A0ECY)

334 >>They need us to believe it so we accept the steal. Without lying and cheating they've got nothing.


My only fear is that they have grown so brazen for so long that they no longer care about the guise of credibility.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (z/jjr)

335 the Left's Sexual Nazis

You know who else was a Nazi?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (a3Q+t)

336 I think this is related to the kerfuffle this weekend when a handful of GA counties tried to remain open past their early voting deadline to accept mail in ballots.

So, they must have received 3,000 ballots this weekend, and the GOP sued to not count them since they were received after the deadline.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)
____________________________________

I have a theory about what the Georgia stuff was all about. I think that was a litmus test to make a determination as to how the mail in totals were working out for the Dems. If it looked insurmountable for them they'd throw their hands up. If it looked close enough to overcome they'd enlist the media to flash favorable polls across the nation to give the impression of a close contest. I don't think there was any cheating going on in those three counties in Georgia. It was a recon to see what they needed to pull off tomorrow.

This latest decision doesn't help them in that regard.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (dIske)

337 272

When I read the posts above discussing Trump as a Republican moderate "positionally," I immediately thought of immigration and the border. That's my kind of "moderate"!

There are so many levers to use against Mexico, it's an embarrassment of riches. Biden/Harris chose "none of the above."

The most difficult part is OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) who merely entered the U.S. via Mexico. I was taught that international treaties require nations to accept their own repatriated nationals.

I have difficulty envisioning PRC complying. Plus, there will be non-frivolous asylum claims in many instances for OTMs.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (NLIak)

338 Tiger King fell in love in prison and is marrying the dude as soon as he gets out.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)


Guy knows how to keep brand equity.

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (xhfG9)

339
Yes.

Of course Progressivism is dying. It's the victorious faction in the denouement of a powerful, prosperous political regime. Their role is to be shunted aside by a faction who actually wants to rule the resulting despotism, instead of spouting bourgeois midwit truisms.

Cf., Mensheviks, Girondins, etc. Sic transit gloria mundi.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (X+N+C)

340 335 the Left's Sexual Nazis

You know who else was a Nazi?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (a3Q+t)

Hellen Keller?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (DDGz9)

341 Ok if it is dying so bad why is the furthest left presidential candidate in history in a 49/49 tie?

--

There's a reason she and her watchdog, wagon-circling media avoid asking her anything of substance that Americans list as their priorities. If she doesn't say where she stands, and the media refuses to confront her on her far leftism, millions and millions of lofo's will never know the extent of just how off the rails she is on any number of issues.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (qBdHI)

342 327. I would believe that more if Biden got Scalia’d.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (7PziG)

343 My only fear is that they have grown so brazen for so long that they no longer care about the guise of credibility.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (z/jjr)

I think that vehicle left the charging station in 2017.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (nBRaJ)

344 I will only vote for candidates who promise to repeal the Sonny Bono Act and return copyright to 28 years with an options extra 28 years that must be applied for.

I am militant about this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Berne Convention accession means that other countries can ignore US copyright if we leave that intl treaty to do what you want. Berne Convention is also entangled with the WTO as any member has to apply this language, "(c) As to the duration of protection, the general rule is that protection must be granted until the expiration of the 50th year after the author's death."
And,
"Under the TRIPS Agreement, any term of protection that is calculated on a basis other than the life of a natural person must be at least 50 years from the first authorized publication of the work, or – failing such an event – 50 years from the making of the work."

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (ctrM5)

345
Midwit academics push stupid ideas - the destruction of the family, the loss of faith, sexual liberty, soft education - either not knowing or not caring that these ideas hurt most and worst the poor they profess to stand for.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (EsZUh)

346 The Left NEVER capitulates or admits defeat. A massive disapproval of the agenda only means two things:

1. Enlisting the media to misrepresent to support numbers.
2. Legislate compliance.
3. Wait for the apathetic public to accept as the new normalcy.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2024 03:39 PM (dIske)
________________

Newsom now wants to give Hollywood tax money in subvention for their shitty movies that crater at the box office.

I'm not making this up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

347 335

Sexual Chocolate > Sexual Nazis

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (LBdqZ)

348 338 Tiger King fell in love in prison and is marrying the dude as soon as he gets out.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

Guy knows how to keep brand equity.
Posted by: blaster at November

I thought he was dying. Isn’t this his 35th marriage?

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (/sySz)

349 Take tens of millions of votes from Biden in 2020, and what do you get?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

Scary answer - Vice President Pence as our 2024 nominee.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (A0ECY)

350 So, they must have received 3,000 ballots this weekend, and the GOP sued to not count them since they were received after the deadline
3000. Right on the nose, nice round number.

This is the way Sherman did it.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (LHPAg)

351 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?

I think Biden was kicked out because plot to kill Trump failed.

Of course the second plot by some Nat Sec resource failed too and Kamala is still running
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:42 PM (oZhjI)

Biden was kicked out because Jill engineered the shooting to save Joe after the debate. Her tool was in charge of SS.

They had to put a lid on that, but their coup was hastily done and Biden stuck in the knife by forcing Harris on them.

Look at this like a Game of Thrones show over this imagined monolithic opposition force. They don't all work in concert.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (n7h9X)

352 336 If it looked close enough to overcome they'd enlist the media to flash favorable polls across the nation to give the impression of a close contest. I don't think there was any cheating going on in those three counties in Georgia. It was a recon to see what they needed to pull off tomorrow.

This latest decision doesn't help them in that regard.
Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (dIske)

========

If you combine the early voting numbers with those last second polls, it doesn't spell an effort to demoralize Republicans.

It comes out to an effort to invigorate Democrats because Democrats are not turning out early when they usually do.

Everything is pointing to Democrats not being excited to vote for the person they never voted for who replaced the person they did vote for in a backroom deal that smells all wrong right after their opponent got shot in the head. Well, everything except polls which have a fucking terrible history over the past decade.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

353 Regardless I feel Trump is going to win by a lot. All this there's only .1% difference in the polls in every state! bs is bs
Posted by: blaster
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This part just doesn't make sense to me, we're supposed to believe that GA and North Carolina are basically tied with WI or MI?

At the same time, even Republcan aligned pollsters are showing close to the same thing.

Posted by: Blago at November 04, 2024 03:51 PM (wMRY8)

354 a smart man knows when to cut his loses and move on

Putin abandoned the commies cuz he knew it was a dead end

progressives are dead enders and they will go down with the ship

just like the commies in Russia

took 75 years but it happened

and it will happen to the left

God willing

Posted by: REDACTED at November 04, 2024 03:51 PM (us2H3)

355 Turns out, they won't. No se puede!
Posted by: LizLem
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Them Mexicans is hard headed.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2024 03:51 PM (kkYD1)

356 Whatever happens, the will of the conservative base has shifted from what the GoP elites want, and it's not going back. Thank goodness!
Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM


Not if I have anything to say about it!

Posted by: Karl Rove at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (a3Q+t)

357 Kinda looking forward to what's coming. Gonna make the opposition much more identifiable; either way. If we gotta get it on, so be it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (3Ope8)

358 >>> 300 If Trump wins Pennsylvania, He really owes a lot of thanks to Scott Pressler. That guy is a good guy to have on your side.

We have the best former liberals! I'm jealous he has glossier hair and snazzier footwear than I do. But I'll take anyone in the tent who has his heart, his honesty and his drive.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (QAK8m)

359 I want Trump to win so big and the Republicans to have 55 In the Senate and 220 in the house.

I want the Media to be so repudiated that they all commit seppiku on the air and Whoopi and Joy move out of the US, along with every other scummy celebrity endorser.

I want mass hysteria from the Dems and their enablers. And dogs and cats living together.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (fpVC1)

360 283 I filled up the Buick on Saturday and have used only about a gallon so far. This morning I extracted some cash at the ATM, and will spend a little on some more canned goods at the grocery tonight. Y'know, "just in case."

hmm. someone ate all my cheerios. guess i should hit the groc on the way home this evening.

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (sGtp+)

361 Midwit academics push stupid ideas - the destruction of the family, the loss of faith, sexual liberty, soft education - either not knowing or not caring that these ideas hurt most and worst the poor they profess to stand for.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (EsZUh)
__________________

They don't stand for anything other than career recognition. They choose to seek such recognition by being further out there than others.

You can't build a career in the humanities or social sciences by advocating traditional family values, or patriotism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (YqDXo)

362 350 So, they must have received 3,000 ballots this weekend, and the GOP sued to not count them since they were received after the deadline
3000. Right on the nose, nice round number.

This is the way Sherman did it.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (LHPAg)

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I doubt it's exactly 3000.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

363 Wokeism/Marxism/Progressivism--whatever you call this satanically inspired ideology--is viral. It may lie dormant in the ice for a while, but it will never die.
Posted by: troyriser at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (DPeYO)


Like anti-Semitism. And isn't it odd that now communism and Jew-hate have finally found a home in the same cohort.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (JkO4W)

364 Newsom now wants to give Hollywood tax money in subvention for their shitty movies that crater at the box office.

I'm not making this up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

And Hollywood is making movies overseas more because working conditions here for businesses are so awful.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (n7h9X)

365 My gut is if Trump wins it will be a blowout win. Anything super close and it can’t overcome the steal. So either landslide Trump or close Kumala win, which is really a close Trump win but stolen.

Blowout I mean he wins PA by 3 or 4%.

Posted by: State of the race at November 04, 2024 03:53 PM (eNb13)

366 I would believe that more if Biden got Scalia’d.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 04, 2024 03:50 PM (7PziG)



I believe Biden will die of natural causes during Trump's term. Trump will treat him with dignity and respect he doesn't deserve and allow him to go out with a Democrat hero's sendoff.

As sick as I think that is, Trump will be the bigger man.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

367
"(c) As to the duration of protection, the general rule is that protection must be granted until the expiration of the 50th year after the author's death."

__________

OK, it should be like patents. You periodically pay an increasing amount along the life of the copyright.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 03:53 PM (EsZUh)

368 *The media is just a mouthpiece for the sugar daddies who fund them and that would be the WEF aligned billionaires with illusions of being smart.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2024 03:36 PM

--

Journalists are well over 90% Democrats. They're committed propagandists who are getting paid to do what they love.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 03:53 PM (wzAuc)

369 Mystery Ballot Theater 3000

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:53 PM (nBRaJ)

370 20 9 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.
Posted by: Mishdog at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (DXJRA)


Sounds like butt stuff to me.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (8hLrh)

371 When the wall came down in Berlin, I thought Thank God that's over. I figured after a catastrophic failure of that magnitude, no way would it ever again gain credence in the West, yet here it is.

Wokeism/Marxism/Progressivism--whatever you call this satanically inspired ideology--is viral. It may lie dormant in the ice for a while, but it will never die.

Posted by: troyriser at November 04, 2024 03:46 PM (DPeYO)

-----------------

JackStraw once repeated someone's observation that, following the fall of The Berlin Wall and collapse of The Soviet Union -- we ended up importing communism & communists here; similarly, after 9-11, we did the same with the Islamists.

Dual Death Cults ...

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws Out YOU! at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (6Zm3x)

372 I wonder if one problem the Dems have is they persuaded way too many of their activists that Biden really did turn out 81M voters. So they don't believe they need to do all the "special" things they did in 2020 because Kamala's got it in the bag. That seems to be the general feeling I'm getting from lefty forums.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (oZhjI)

373 Whatever happens, the will of the conservative base has shifted from what the GoP elites want, and it's not going back. Thank goodness!
Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:47 PM

Not if I have anything to say about it!
Posted by: Karl Rove at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (a3Q+t)

Who the hell is he now? I haven't even heard his name as much as Brian Potato Steltzer.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (n7h9X)

374 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.
Posted by: Mishdog at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (DXJRA)


Sounds like butt stuff to me.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (8hLrh)

It's literally the opposite of butt stuff.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (A0ECY)

375 Re Cobb County,
"A judge ruled on Friday that Cobb County Georgia voters who received absentee ballots late can accept them until November 8, three days after the election.

At least 1,000 of the absentee ballots sent out late this week in Cobb County went to out-of-state voters.
Newsmax reported:

Georgia’s third-largest county is running late in mailing more than 3,000 absentee ballots to voters just a few days before the election.

To deliver the ballots on time, election officials in Cobb County north of Atlanta were using U.S. Postal Service express mail and UPS overnight delivery, and sending the ballots with prepaid express return envelopes.

“We want to maintain voter trust by being transparent about the situation,” county Board of Elections Chairwoman Tori Silas said in a statement Thursday. “We are taking every possible step to get these ballots to the voters who requested them.”

Silas blamed the delay on faulty equipment and a late surge in absentee ballot requests during the week before the Oct. 25 deadline."

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

376 I want mass hysteria from the Dems and their enablers. And dogs and cats living together.
Posted by: Czech Chick
......

I want hot girls waiting for me.

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

377 But are Hispanics really that fecund?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:03 PM (JkO4W

I don't know, but that word always sounds dirty to me.
Posted by: Mishdog at November 04, 2024 03:06 PM (DXJRA)


Sounds like butt stuff to me.


Nah, they don't do the butt stuff hence the kids...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (oZhjI)

378 372 I wonder if one problem the Dems have is they persuaded way too many of their activists that Biden really did turn out 81M voters. So they don't believe they need to do all the "special" things they did in 2020 because Kamala's got it in the bag. That seems to be the general feeling I'm getting from lefty forums.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (oZhjI)

========

Or...Biden's cabal controlled the cheat.

The intersection of his black support and his incredible numbers does raise interesting questions...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

379 351 I wonder what Nancy Pelosi was thinking when she engineered the coup. Did she think Kamala would ... win?


If Kamala loses, I will be convinced it is because Nancy wanted her out of the way with the least amount of kicking and screaming from Kamala. This is a great way to do it - we gave you a shot, you failed. Thanks for playing. Next up will be a stronger, less vapid candidate who is worthy of the cheat machine.

Except Nancy will be not of this world by then, and no one in the line up is as sinister and smart as she is, I don’t know anyone else is capable of pulling off the cheat without her.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (/sySz)

380 334 My only fear is that they have grown so brazen for so long that they no longer care about the guise of credibility.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (z/jjr)

Who needs credibility when you've got Law Enforcement and the Military to point guns at anybody who dares open their mouth?

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (UnA8+)

381 347 Sexual Chocolate > Sexual Nazis

i'm pretty sure "there is some x such that x > chocolate" is one of them whatchamacallits, a statement that is always false. yeah, contradiction, that's the word.

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (sGtp+)

382
Not if I have anything to say about it!
Posted by: Karl Rove at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (a3Q+t)



Allow me to muster up a nice fart for your face, big boy.

Posted by: Ken Paxton at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)

383 It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience to be a leftist billionaire. Gas is $10 a gallon to pay for green bullshit, makes no difference to you. Public schools are shit, you don’t care your kids go to $60k a year private schools. Crime is out of control? Whatever. Your guard gated neighborhood doesn’t suffer.

--

I throw every celebrity and music artist in there. Manufacturing jobs dissolving in America? Won't bother you one iota. Illegals doubling your town's population overnight, stretching resources beyond the breaking point? No worries for you. Groceries doubled? You won't even blink an eye. This is why it angers me so deeply when the Taylor Swifts, the Harrison Fords, the Lady Gagas, the JLos and every other POS celebrity out there throws their mug on a commercial advocating for a woman whose disastrous policies will never affect them in the slightest.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (qBdHI)

384 >>> Wokeism/Marxism/Progressivism--whatever you call this satanically inspired ideology--is viral. It may lie dormant in the ice for a while, but it will never die.

As long as greed, envy, and wrath exist, progressivism will exist. Every generation has to teach the next one to plug up their ears from its siren song, or it destroys them. But the allure is always there, shiny and new, for those too naive or too insulated from its actual damage.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (QAK8m)

385 366. May Trump preside over Carter, Biden and Bubba.

Still, if Harris was the bees knees Biden would have been snuffed out.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (7PziG)

386 335 the Left's Sexual Nazis
________________

Alfred Kinsey? Now THERE was a very weird guy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

387 Like anti-Semitism. And isn't it odd that now communism and Jew-hate have finally found a home in the same cohort.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (JkO4W)

Communism and Marxism have antiSemitism burned in. It wasn't Chinese bankers from Asia they were bitching about.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (n7h9X)

388
Again, I would assert that control is the dominant aspects of the Democrats interests, and that ideology and group interests are simple marketing tools, as the "anti-war left" has been exposed to be.

They have no real beliefs outside their own will to power.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (j4U/Z)

389 376

Hot single cat ladies smelling faintly of chardonnay burps and baking soda is the best you'll find on the Left.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (LBdqZ)

390 373 Who the hell is he now? I haven't even heard his name as much as Brian Potato Steltzer.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (n7h9X)

That's because half the people here were calling Ann Selzer "Brian Stelter" for some reason earlier.

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (UnA8+)

391
“We want to maintain voter trust by being transparent about the situation,” county Board of Elections Chairwoman Tori Silas said in a statement Thursday. “We are taking every possible step to get these ballots to the voters who requested them.”

Silas blamed the delay on faulty equipment and a late surge in absentee ballot requests during the week before the Oct. 25 deadline."
Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (ctrM5)



That makes you incompetent, sugartits.

Posted by: Ken Paxton at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

392 389 376

Hot single cat ladies smelling faintly of chardonnay burps and baking soda is the best you'll find on the Left.
Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (LBdqZ)

======

Yeah, but are they waiting for any of us?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

393 Have they wheeled out bajillionaire man of the people Springsteen to sing about life in a coal mine yet?

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (nBRaJ)

394 STRIKE ONE, even though it kinda works in that instance.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

395 329 TJM

I'm becoming increasingly receptive to your idea that a large part of the missing DEM turnout are ghost voters who never existed.

Heretofore, I was extremely skeptical about claims of massive fraud in 2020-- something even Mollie Hemingway ("Rigged") rejected.

But if they really existed in 2020, where the hell have they GONE?

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (NLIak)

396 Sounds like butt stuff to me.
Posted by: haffhowershower at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (8hLrh)


That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (xhfG9)

397 But are Hispanics really that fecund?

--

I always thought that word was funny. It sounds like something that's been ripening in the sun for too long. Don't pick up that sandwich! It's gone fecund!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (qBdHI)

398
That's because half the people here were calling Ann Selzer "Brian Stelter" for some reason earlier.
Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (UnA8+)



Ace called it the 'stelter poll' eariler.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (Zz0t1)

399 Yeah, but are they waiting for any of us?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

Apparently not.

I asked for a water and a bourbon ages ago and i'm still looking at an empty table here.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (DDGz9)

400 395 329 TJM

I'm becoming increasingly receptive to your idea that a large part of the missing DEM turnout are ghost voters who never existed.

Heretofore, I was extremely skeptical about claims of massive fraud in 2020-- something even Mollie Hemingway ("Rigged") rejected.

But if they really existed in 2020, where the hell have they GONE?
Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (NLIak)

========

Remember, the Democrat Party outright broke laws for elections because they just wanted to get more low-propensity voters their ballots. It was honest effort at good elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

401 384 As long as greed, envy, and wrath exist, progressivism will exist. Every generation has to teach the next one to plug up their ears from its siren song, or it destroys them. But the allure is always there, shiny and new, for those too naive or too insulated from its actual damage.
Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 03:56 PM (QAK8m)

Hell, a big part of this current generation of Troonism is because guys were jealous that e-girls were making so much money streaming, and they wanted a piece of that action.

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (UnA8+)

402 Two primary reasons progressivism is dying
1. They have no sense of humor
2. They have lousy taste in music.
I might have this backward.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (4780s)

403 I want hot girls waiting for me.
Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM


We are ... oh, we so are!!!!

Posted by: Lena D., Trigglypuff, and the cast of The View at November 04, 2024 03:58 PM (a3Q+t)

404 Silas blamed the delay on faulty equipment


Faulty equipment?? Amateurs.

Posted by: The Clogged Toilets of Fulton County at November 04, 2024 03:59 PM (eNb13)

405 392.

They are usually waiting at Costco, near the organic carrots and zucchini for some reason.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 03:59 PM (LBdqZ)

406 But if they really existed in 2020, where the hell have they GONE?

Presuming they don't show up and Trump does win this is going to be a fun bit of discussion on the left with the options:

1) Trump was right about the fraud in 2020
2) Trump made people love him over the last 4 years
3) Kamala was that bad and muh racycisms.

I know they'll settle on door #3.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:59 PM (oZhjI)

407 Sounds like butt stuff to me.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 04, 2024 03:54 PM (8hLrh)



*drops phone*

*perks up*

*pays attention*

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at November 04, 2024 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)

408 392 Yeah, but are they waiting for any of us?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

If you're toxoplasmosis-curious, maybe.

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (UnA8+)

409 406 Presuming they don't show up and Trump does win this is going to be a fun bit of discussion on the left with the options:

1) Trump was right about the fraud in 2020
2) Trump made people love him over the last 4 years
3) Kamala was that bad and muh racycisms.

I know they'll settle on door #3.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 03:59 PM (oZhjI)

========

False.

"Trump and Rethuglicans suppressed the vote! The missing tens of millions of voters is the only proof we need! When we vote, we win!"
-DU, 110% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

410 "A judge ruled on Friday that Cobb County Georgia voters who received absentee ballots late can accept them until November 8, three days after the election.

At least 1,000 of the absentee ballots sent out late this week in Cobb County went to out-of-state voters.
Newsmax reported:

Georgia’s third-largest county is running late in mailing more than 3,000 absentee ballots to voters just a few days before the election.

To deliver the ballots on time, election officials in Cobb County north of Atlanta were using U.S. Postal Service express mail and UPS overnight delivery, and sending the ballots with prepaid express return envelopes.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM

--
It might be interesting to accept* those votes, quarantine them, count them last, and report on that count.

*seize in evidence

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (wzAuc)

411 The female sex drive goes down after menopause so no there are not "hot" AWFLs waiting for you...sorry guys.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (oZhjI)

412
Much of the same dynamic of the cultural revolution in China which the generals in the PLA eventually squashed and made Mao into a mascot rather than leader of the Chi Coms. Chou En Lai and Deng replace Mao's Gang of Four.

Posted by: whig at November 04, 2024 03:28 PM (ctrM5)

Then again, once the urban commie cocksuckers were supplanted by rural types, you end up with Pol Pot's more rural Khmer Rouge. Wearing eyeglasses became a sign of education and was pretty much a death sentence.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 04, 2024 04:01 PM (y9nCu)

413 The female sex drive goes down after menopause so no there are not "hot" AWFLs waiting for you...sorry guys.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (oZhjI)



*tee hee*

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at November 04, 2024 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)

414 Hot girls are waiting for you to vote at ---- www.ballot21.eu

Posted by: Mila at November 04, 2024 04:01 PM (OguvZ)

415 The female sex drive goes down after 'menopause so no there are not "hot" AWFLs waiting for you...sorry guys.'

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM (oZhjI)

You misspelled 'marriage.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (A0ECY)

416 No matter who wins?

Really? We already have the mechanisms in place for a police state.

Kamala in "charge" means the Junta appoints people who are on board with the "enemies from within" agenda to run the IRS, FBI and DOJ.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (tT6L1)

417 When perverts who are caught wearing a dress, party city wig, and five o'clock shadow in Target women's restrooms are executed by an angry mob of shoppers with their carts, then we will be half way back.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (/lPRQ)

418 The female sex drive goes down after menopause so no there are not "hot" AWFLs waiting for you...sorry guys.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2024 04:00 PM


I've heard they have flashes of hotness pre-menopause, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (a3Q+t)

419
The lawfare backfired on the dems bigly.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (+oR7L)

420 At least 1,000 of the absentee ballots sent out late this week in Cobb County went to out-of-state voters.
Newsmax reported:

——

I’m just a simple caveman lawyer and so not understand all your modern ways. But why are out of state voters, voting in a Georgia election?

Posted by: Simple Caveman Lawyer at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (eNb13)

421 Strippers for Pol Pot

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (DDGz9)

422
Kamala in "charge" means the Junta appoints people who are on board with the "enemies from within" agenda to run the IRS, FBI and DOJ.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (tT6L1)



Or, keeps things as they are currently.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)

423 We are ... oh, we so are!!!!
Posted by: Lena D., Trigglypuff, and the cast of The View
.......

Uh, could I have a pony instead?

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

424 411.

Just ask those Abercrombie and Twink guys they just arrested. Poor guys were just lonely.

Posted by: Sifty at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (LBdqZ)

425 My only fear is that they have grown so brazen for so long that they no longer care about the guise of credibility.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2024 03:49 PM (z/jjr)

Who needs credibility when you've got Law Enforcement and the Military to point guns at anybody who dares open their mouth?
Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (UnA8+)

You need it because if you pull out the Force flag people go underground. You need to keep the economy humming? Wait till people stop working extra hours, start taking their vacations and not making waves. Wait till people stop honestly reporting transactions that are difficult to track. Wait till they start making those little mistakes that cost money but don't get you fired and are there to do it again. What do the elite colleges do when people quit coming in and don't hire people coming out of them?

The USSR and Communist nations have shown what resigned compliance does for you.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (n7h9X)

426 It might be interesting to accept* those votes, quarantine them, count them last, and report on that count.

*seize in evidence
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
==
And cross reference to voter rolls in state to which sent.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (4780s)

427 Georgia’s third-largest county is running late in mailing more than 3,000 absentee ballots to voters just a few days before the election.

--

How on earth do the elections officials in states like this not prepare to get the absentee ballots out on time? They've had years. They've known the dates. There is absolutely zero reason this shouldn't have been done according to the timetable needed. Did this kind of s**t happen 30-40 years ago? It seems to be a regular occurrence every election. Same with the "whoops, didn't get the overseas military ballots" out and back in time. It's inexcusable.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (qBdHI)

428 Or...Biden's cabal controlled the cheat.

The intersection of his black support and his incredible numbers does raise interesting questions...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 04, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)


In PA in 2020 black voters were the most likely to have returned requested mail-in ballots. It was 55% for blacks and 50% for whites, so not incredibly different, but it is an interesting data point.

I believe the cheat happened in black precincts. Not because black people are corrupt, but because those precincts are massively ruled by Dems at all levels - and there is no one to check and balance. So they can get away with it.

Posted by: blaster at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (xhfG9)

429 Uh, could I have a pony instead?

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (v0R5T)

A recent ONT taught us that the Government will GIVE you a pony if you can take care of it!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (A0ECY)

430 At least 1,000 of the absentee ballots sent out late this week in Cobb County went to out-of-state voters.
Newsmax reported:

——

I’m just a simple caveman lawyer and so not understand all your modern ways. But why are out of state voters, voting in a Georgia election?
Posted by: Simple Caveman Lawyer at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (eNb13)

College students, for one.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (n7h9X)

431 >>> JackStraw once repeated someone's observation that, following the fall of The Berlin Wall and collapse of The Soviet Union -- we ended up importing communism & communists here; similarly, after 9-11, we did the same with the Islamists.Dual Death Cults ...

What was the name of the German elite groups of thinkers that fled to america after WW1 or WW2? The ones that infiltrated, infected, and destroyed the universities, helping creating the educational rot we have today.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (QAK8m)

432 Hot girls are waiting for you to vote at ---- www.ballot21.eu
Posted by: Mila
......

is that you, Madonna?

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (v0R5T)

433 Communism and Marxism have antiSemitism burned in. It wasn't Chinese bankers from Asia they were bitching about.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 03:57 PM (n7h9X)
________________

You know who was a raging anti-Semite? Karl Marx. The son of a rabbi, IIRC.

Also very much racist. See his comments re Mexicans and blacks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

434 Progressives blew what? Again?

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (QSrLX)

435 ""Americans simply do not like the practice of rewarding asylum seekers for crossing the border illegally," writes Smith. "

And of course he pretends that most of those illegals are actually seeking asylum, which the vast majority probably are not.

Posted by: Rick C at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (pnaK4)

436 If she refuses, he will slap a 25% tariff on every Mexican product coming into the U.S.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC)


If that includes Ford trucks, I will vote for him even harder.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (hB7mE)

437 Or, keeps things as they are currently.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 04, 2024 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)
---------------

Nope, I believe churches will be told they need to bend the knee or lose tax exempt status. There will be spies inside congregations to report on what's said from the pulpit.

And that's just for starters. J6 was an exercise in police state tactics. Those tactics worked like they were supposed to.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (tT6L1)

438 Given today’s woke military I’m not too concerned about them not getting ballots in time.

Posted by: Simple Caveman Lawyer at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (eNb13)

439
The female sex drive goes down after menopause so no there are not "hot" AWFLs waiting for you...sorry guys.
Posted by: 18-1

_________

Even if so disposed, I wouldn't screw, touch, talk to or go near an AWFL even if she was panting for it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (EsZUh)

440 What was the name of the German elite groups of thinkers that fled to america after WW1 or WW2? The ones that infiltrated, infected, and destroyed the universities, helping creating the educational rot we have today.
Posted by: LizLem

The Frankfurt School.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (v6JzV)

441 I've heard of the demise /death of the left since Reagan. Never happens, just regroups and comes back as something even more screwed up and evil. Even Chile and has had a resurgence after it was nearly eradicated.

Posted by: Ripley at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (GUOwU)

442 What was the name of the German elite groups of thinkers that fled to america after WW1 or WW2? The ones that infiltrated, infected, and destroyed the universities, helping creating the educational rot we have today.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (QAK8m)
_______________

The Frankfurt School. Hard left, Jewish, and offered sanctuary from the Nazis by ... Columbia University.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

443 Frankfurt School

Posted by: Simple Caveman Lawyer at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (eNb13)

444 If she refuses, he will slap a 25% tariff on every Mexican product coming into the U.S.

------------

Modelos aren't really imported are they?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (sX1BW)

445 How on earth do the elections officials in states like this not prepare to get the absentee ballots out on time? They've had years. They've known the dates. There is absolutely zero reason this shouldn't have been done according to the timetable needed. Did this kind of s**t happen 30-40 years ago? It seems to be a regular occurrence every election. Same with the "whoops, didn't get the overseas military ballots" out and back in time. It's inexcusable.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (qBdHI)

They are low level government fuckups, that's why.

And yes Dems have been routinely bungling the military votes all my life.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 04:05 PM (n7h9X)

446 And of course he pretends that most of those illegals are actually seeking asylum, which the vast majority probably are not.
Posted by: Rick C at November 04, 2024 04:04 PM (pnaK4)
-----------

And he conveniently ignores the gangs, child sex slavery and drug problems of the open border.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 04, 2024 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

447 Nood Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 04, 2024 04:06 PM (A0ECY)

448 I've been complaining bitterly about the upcoming shit show that starts tomorrow evening.

I always just want election season to be over, but it keeps growing in every direction like kudzu.

Maybe I should just try and enjoy the spectacle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2024 04:06 PM (X+N+C)

449 In Scott Pressler warned Pennsylvanians to check and see online if your ballot has been accepted.

I don't live in PA but it checked mine, it was. Of course I have no idea what they do with it after it gets to that point... it could be checked in and then chucked out for all I know!

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 04:06 PM (QAK8m)

450
There will be spies inside congregations to report on what's said from the pulpit.

_________

Our pastor has said that as Catholics we must not vote for candidates espousing intrinsically evil positions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2024 04:07 PM (EsZUh)

451 Thanks everyone!! Frankfurt school was the right answer. My brain kept going bilderburger or Thule society, because it's Monday and doesn't want to work.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2024 04:07 PM (QAK8m)

452 425 The USSR and Communist nations have shown what resigned compliance does for you.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 04, 2024 04:03 PM (n7h9X)

It won't be that resigned. There will be tons of lefties who want to give the "shoot to kill" order. That want to be part of the tanks rolling down the street.

Posted by: XTC at November 04, 2024 04:07 PM (UnA8+)

453 359 I want Trump to win so big and the Republicans to have 55 In the Senate and 220 in the house.

I want the Media to be so repudiated that they all commit seppiku on the air and Whoopi and Joy move out of the US, along with every other scummy celebrity endorser.

I want mass hysteria from the Dems and their enablers. And dogs and cats living together.
Posted by: Czech Chick at November 04, 2024 03:52 PM (fpVC1)
Agreed to all above, with the stipulation that whoppy and joyless move to Nigeria and Afghanistan respectively.

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Reagan's left is dead. You still see some of them about, the peaceniks, the ones who liked USSR. But now they ae moderates like say Jimmy Dore.

Clinton's left is nearly dead. Everyone is too ideological for them to make a quick buck and do something America wants. But even Hillary is just bitching these days.

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Limit on that is that it shows up in voting statistics. A certain percentage of rolloff (not voting on an office) occurs but not for presidential races normally. Effect is usually stronger on down ballot races or ballot initiatives, etc.

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They don't know how. One kid with a gun blew out Antifa. The street wars in the West were lost by Antifa from volunteers until the Police had to intervene and lawfare was turned on them.

All that got them was Antifa burning their own cities down.

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How are these kids going to start a revolution when they can't even start a lawnmower?

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This isn't due to new polls, because there haven't been any. (The few new polls reported today don't show any shift toward Trump.)

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Lack of checks and balances is part of it. A big part is good old-fashioned racism. Consider: When I was growing up in Chicago in the '60s, it was not unusual to see precincts in neighborhoods of blacks go 100% for the Democrats - no dissenting votes at all. Now, think of how abnormal it is that there would not be a single vote for the opposition: not one curmudgeon who remembers the old days when Republicans were the "black" party; not even one who voted "R" by accident: not one. Yet somehow that was never questioned. Of course those votes were being stolen, but it was ignored because blacks were assumed to be different from "normal" humans. So, to answer your question, that is one way that they get away with it.

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