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Political Prisoner Steve Bannon Released One Week Before the Election

Can you even imagine how Trump is going to pervert the justice system and weaponize the government to go after his enemies? I mean, can you even imagine such a thing happening in America?!?!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:11 PM




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1 Welcome home

Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 04:11 PM (IyPmt)

2 !

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 29, 2024 04:11 PM (M6EHX)

3 He'll be more cogent on the race than most of the media types.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 29, 2024 04:11 PM (GZYu7)

4 I mean, can you even imagine such a thing happening in America?!?!
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That's mostly ALL I HAVE!!

Posted by: Suddenly Honest Dem at October 29, 2024 04:12 PM (krQz2)

5 What does his hair have to say?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 29, 2024 04:12 PM (TGPs7)

6 >>>Can you even imagine how Trump is going to pervert the justice system and weaponize the government to go after his enemies? I mean, can you even imagine such a thing happening in America?!?!

Oh please, oh please, oh please.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:12 PM (D3+QX)

7 Though I like him, he still looks like a hobo…

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

8 Can you even imagine how Trump is going to pervert the justice system and weaponize the government to go after his enemies? I mean, can you even imagine such a thing happening in America?!?!

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Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.

Trump, on the other hand, will put people in prison for fake and stupid laws like, "cheating at elections" or "subverting the justice system" or "disobeying lawful orders from the chief executive" or some bullshit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

9 Good news.

Posted by: caf at October 29, 2024 04:13 PM (/+mVZ)

10 Though I like him, he still looks like a hobo…

Electing people who "look the part" is at least half of why the country is so screwed.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 04:13 PM (2ocoG)

11 I can imagine it, and I just rubbed one out

Posted by: Kamala's Throat at October 29, 2024 04:14 PM (W+TLY)

12 Though I like him, he still looks like a hobo…


Well...you want to be careful about taking showers in prison.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (xCA6C)

13 The left have done nothing but project for the past 4 decades at least.

They do this because it is exactly what they would (and have) done to us.

I continue to lose more family members over the trump assassin attempts.

Brother and now Mother
My old man is the only one who doesn't openly declare me a bad person.

Tolerance my asshole

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (JDN+L)

14 Seems foolish for the Junta to telegraph their intended moves, should they retain power.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (tT6L1)

15 Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.

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The problem? Like Eric Holder the dems don't go to jail for this offense.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (jyAD3)

16 Tolerance my asshole

It takes time.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (xCA6C)

17 Salon hack:

"He released a new episode Tuesday morning, slamming the Democratic agenda and falsely claiming that former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., sent him to prison to 'to tamp down the power of this show and to break me.'”

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"falsely"

He uttered a false opinion.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (wzAuc)

18 Wenda, if you moved over here, I did find my phone!

Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (QAK8m)

19 Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (E3FnI)

20 >Political Prisoner Steve Bannon Released One Week Before the Election
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a goodwill gesture by the ruling junta

Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (/7KEl)

21 15 Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.

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The problem? Like Eric Holder the dems don't go to jail for this offense.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (jyAD3)

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The problem? I was obviously being tongue in cheek and don't think it's serious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

22 4 months with 3 hots and a cot in Club Fed.

He is un-tanned, rested and ready.

No teardrop tattoo.

Yet.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 04:17 PM (Lla4W)

23 Bannon looks like attorney Melvin Belli playing "Gorgan the Friendly Angel" on that near-worst of all Trek episodes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:17 PM (J2vNu)

24 It will be interesting to see what role, if any, Trump gives him in the new admin. IIRC, they had a falling out in Trump 1.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 04:17 PM (xCA6C)

25 Wife baffled why heater keeps shutting off when temperature reaches 140F.

The Bee


Posted by: Archer at October 29, 2024 04:17 PM (IDphi)

26 Vengeance is under rated.

Posted by: Stateless at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (jvJvP)

27 The problem? I was obviously being tongue in cheek and don't think it's serious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

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Could this election have broken my sense of humor and my ability to read comments here as if I've been around for about 10 years?

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (jyAD3)

28 Isn’t Merchan going to be the “judge” for his criminal trial in December in NYC? The system is completely corrupt.

Posted by: EveR at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (Z/h4+)

29 Shit, I'd just laid out the facts about IQ in the last post. Anyway glad one of the the Regime's political prisoners has been released.
Still disappointed Joe didn't stroke out on live TV for all the world to enjoy

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (wBaIH)

30 I want to see Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzk, Page, and a whole host of others that engaged in actual criminal behavior and horribly abused their office to chill it in club fed for at least 15 years. The 7th floor at the FBI needs redecorating so throw all of them in prison.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (JNTt1)

31 27 Could this election have broken my sense of humor and my ability to read comments here as if I've been around for about 10 years?
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (jyAD3)

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I don't know.

Did you think that Kamala actually bragged about getting 95 on an IQ test?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

32 Really? So soon after Pride Month?!

Posted by: NR Pax at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (lXCUP)

33 Bannon looks like attorney Melvin Belli playing "Gorgan the Friendly Angel" on that near-worst of all Trek episodes.

I'm not sure if that's even bottom 5.

Beverly Crusher having sex with Scottish ghosts is still the whatever the opposite of gold is standard.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (2ocoG)

34 I watched a snippet of the Steve Bannon statement earlier, and when I saw him and his manly mane of silver, the first thing that came to mind was this:

(YT) LINK: https://tinyurl.com/27at8jar

Posted by: mrp at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (rj6Yv)

35 Bannon has a shamrock tattoo now.

Posted by: Archer at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (IDphi)

36 28 Isn’t Merchan going to be the “judge” for his criminal trial in December in NYC? The system is completely corrupt.
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Kingdom of SoDiNY. Never get out of the boat.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (AdHga)

37 I have little doubt that they’ll throw him back into prison..

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:19 PM (PCK5/)

38 This four month misdemeanor sentence was the least of his problems. He still has the NY felony trial coming up for the alleged misdeeds with the nonprofit.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 29, 2024 04:19 PM (NZnln)

39 >>

Back tattoo like John Wick.

Haven't listened to his show today yet, but apparently all the black and Latino prisoners he met HATE Kamala.

Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (QAK8m)

40 How many people did the Junta openly embarrass by publicly arresting with handcuffs and leg irons for crimes which deserved nothing more than a, "Please surrender yourself at this time and place?"

I know it was more than 1.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (tT6L1)

41 In almost four years, there was so much damage done to America Trump isn't going to have time to go after all the seditionists and outright traitors while he works to reverse course.

Meanwhile the seditionists and traitors are STILL going to work to take Trump out by any means possible.

Posted by: torabora at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (slx38)

42 Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.
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But OTOH Eric "Chinless" Holder did the same thing, and nobody said "boo."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

43 38 This four month misdemeanor sentence was the least of his problems. He still has the NY felony trial coming up for the alleged misdeeds with the nonprofit.
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 29, 2024 04:19 PM (NZnln)

Funny how Dems never seem to get charged with anything...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (IyPmt)

44 Vengeance is under rated.
Posted by: Stateless
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A dish best served cold.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (XeU6L)

45 20 goodwill gesture by the ruling junta
Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (/7KEl

Lol! Not from these freaks. He served the full 120-day sentence, despite earning 10 days credit, which should have shortened it.

Posted by: EveR at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (Z/h4+)

46 43 Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.
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But OTOH Eric "Chinless" Holder did the same thing, and nobody said "boo."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

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You see, that was ignoring a subpoena from Republicans. That's not serious. Republicans are second-class legislators.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

47 How many people did the Junta openly embarrass by publicly arresting with handcuffs and leg irons for crimes which deserved nothing more than a, "Please surrender yourself at this time and place?"
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Or a "please don't do that again."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

48 This four month misdemeanor sentence was the least of his problems. He still has the NY felony trial coming up for the alleged misdeeds with the nonprofit.

I remember they did something similar with Newt G. After 10 years and having access and help from among other people a former head of the IRS Newt was found innocent.

Any normal person without those resources would have spent years in jail and been ruined.

Time to turn this sort of attention on to the left.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (oZhjI)

49
But OTOH Eric "Chinless" Holder did the same thing, and nobody said "boo."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

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Heh, we've covered this.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (jyAD3)

50 Haven't listened to his show today yet, but apparently all the black and Latino prisoners he met HATE Kamala.

Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (QAK8m)

LMAO. Smarter than the average dem.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (D3+QX)

51 What's with Hunter's Finger Lakes back tattoo?

Mafioso meeting?

Posted by: torabora at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (slx38)

52 a goodwill gesture by the ruling junta
Posted by: Don Black

Bannon served his full time - 4 months - he could have been released 10 days ago but the prison system deprived him of even that grace.

Posted by: old chick at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (F3Dlr)

53 48 I remember they did something similar with Newt G. After 10 years and having access and help from among other people a former head of the IRS Newt was found innocent.

Any normal person without those resources would have spent years in jail and been ruined.

Time to turn this sort of attention on to the left.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 29, 2024 04:21 PM (oZhjI)

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FARA!

I want at least 10% of the current Congress in prison by the time of the midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

54 15 Biden put Bannon in prison because he broke a real and serious law: ignoring a subpoena from Congress.

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The problem? Like Eric Holder the dems don't go to jail for this offense.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:15 PM (jyAD3)

Thus, the law should be taken off the books. No laws can exist which are not equally applied.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (exHjb)

55 Beverly Crusher having sex with Scottish ghosts is still the whatever the opposite of gold is standard.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024


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I meant the near-worst of TOS; I should have specified. That episode with Beverly did have some nice atmosphere. (More entertaining overall than the Anne Rice novel it was lifted from.) I have favorites for TNG, but not many I would describe as terrible, dull, or just plain bad

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (J2vNu)

56 I still hold against Bannon that he blundered into supporting the Russian collusion crap.

The Trump Tower as visited by a Russian national lawyer and a long-time American citizen lawyer who had a Russian origin, but a Armenian name. The Russian lawyer had a long time partnership with Glen Simpson of Fusion GPS and the other one had a long time friendship with the other founder of Fusion.

When Bannon found out that Manafort and Junior had met with this group loosely affiliated to Russia, he said something about "showing the Russian government all our secrets".

That kind of stupidity and patsy-ness is hard to easily dismiss.

He needs to keep to his Warroom and he can hype Trump however he feels like, but I don't want to see him in a position of responsibility again.

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (krQz2)

57 Another element of the corruption and the continuing abuse of discretion is the immediate imposition of the punishment for non-violent crimes [no danger to the public], done so without bail while the underlying conviction is on appeal.

Bannon's incarceration is particularly egregious given the legal grounds for his indictment are tenuous in my opinion. [And throw in the fact the Dems have done similar things with no indictments at all.]

Posted by: Mr. Barky at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (by+vB)

58 And this is another example of the courts, that self-righteousnessly thunder all the time about protecting rights and the Constitution are really just toddlers digging in their shitty diaper and writing "opinions" on the walls of America whenever it comes to Republicans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 04:23 PM (Lla4W)

59 Haven't listened to his show today yet, but apparently all the black and Latino prisoners he met HATE Kamala.

Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 04:20 PM (QAK8m)

Second look at the felon vote? Though honestly if you've served your sentence and your probation you shouldn't be barred from voting or anything. You've either served the terms and are a full citizen again or not.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 04:23 PM (tfY4F)

60 Shit, I'd just laid out the facts about IQ in the last post.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (wBaIH)
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And you did an admirable job, which I appreciated.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

61 Thus, the law should be taken off the books. No laws can exist which are not equally applied.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (exHjb)
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* spit take *

Posted by: DC at October 29, 2024 04:24 PM (krQz2)

62 Thus, the law should be taken off the books. No laws can exist which are not equally applied.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (exHjb)

We've got a live one here!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:24 PM (D3+QX)

63 Thus, the law should be taken off the books. No laws can exist which are not equally applied.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (exHjb)

This also applies to ALL federal abortion laws on the books - only used against conservatives, NEVER against liberals even the worst ones, so REMOVE THEM ALL in an omnibus law passed by Congress and signed by Trump.

MAKE Dems repass all these laws in a future admin if they want them...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (exHjb)

64 I would argue ignoring a subpoena for the Fast and Furious scandal was far more of a crime than the subpoena Bannon ignored.

Fast and Furious was a real scandal, unlike what they wanted Bannon for.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (tT6L1)

65 I’m sure this is a stupid question, but wasn't it possible for him to appear and just plead the fifth? Didn't that work for Lois Learner?

Posted by: Turn 2 at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (JfxgE)

66 Got about an hour, maybe a little less, before I can tiptoe outta here. My boss has gone to a talk and it's scheduled to run until 4:30, so maybe I can slide out a hair early.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

67 I still don't have the confidence that this is in the bag. There are so many willfully misinformed people in this country.

Posted by: fd at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (uH1zk)

68 64 I would argue ignoring a subpoena for the Fast and Furious scandal was far more of a crime than the subpoena Bannon ignored.

Fast and Furious was a real scandal, unlike what they wanted Bannon for.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (tT6L1)

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"Prosecutorial discretion, peasant. Suck my dick."
-Loretta Lynch

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

69 66 Got about an hour, maybe a little less, before I can tiptoe outta here. My boss has gone to a talk and it's scheduled to run until 4:30, so maybe I can slide out a hair early.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

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Do it!!

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (jyAD3)

70 66 Got about an hour, maybe a little less, before I can tiptoe outta here. My boss has gone to a talk and it's scheduled to run until 4:30, so maybe I can slide out a hair early.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

Spray paint all the cameras…

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (PCK5/)

71 Second look at the felon vote? Though honestly if you've served your sentence and your probation you shouldn't be barred from voting or anything. You've either served the terms and are a full citizen again or not.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 04:23 PM (tfY4F)
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With respect, I strongly disagree. If you're an MD who was selling drugs illegally, should you be allowed to return to practicing medicine? If you're an embezzler, should you be allowed to return to the financial industry? If you're a child molester, should you be allowed to work with kids?

Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

72 Thus, the law should be taken off the books. No laws can exist which are not equally applied.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (exHjb)
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Should's got nothin' to do with it.

Posted by: DC in a Pancho at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (krQz2)

73 About the JD Vance going on Rogan news:

The fun thing about it is that there is plenty to talk about with Vance separated from politics. He has had a fascinating life. I think he and Rogan just shooting the breeze about life would be great, if the conversation goes that route. Their personalities seem to gell well. We'll see!

Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (QAK8m)

74 Terri Garr is dead?

no more rolls in the hay?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (uLfN1)

75 Bannon's incarceration is particularly egregious given the legal grounds for his indictment are tenuous in my opinion. [And throw in the fact the Dems have done similar things with no indictments at all.]
Posted by: Mr. Barky at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM

THIS.

January 6th participants treated as a violent hunted down. BLM, Antifa, and various Occupy groups allowed to commit consequence-free crimes.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (fxCK2)

76 67 I still don't have the confidence that this is in the bag. There are so many willfully misinformed people in this country.
Posted by: fd at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (uH1zk)

Seems like common sense, to me anyway.

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (PCK5/)

77 Spray paint all the cameras…
Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (PCK5/)
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Now you tell me!

Posted by: Jeffrey, Toobin' at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (krQz2)

78 Sachin Jose
@Sachinettiyil
Archbishop of Cincinnati, Dennis M. Schnurr, has announced the archdiocese’s decision to discontinue its parishes’ partnerships with the Girl Scouts, stating that the organization has “contributed to normalizing a sexual and gender ideology contrary to the Catholic understanding of the human person, made male and female in the image and likeness of God.”

The is the Diocese's way of saying: "No, f**k you!"

Posted by: Tonypete at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (WXNFJ)

79 There is always a leftist or two on a jury whenever a commie is in trial. Never a conservative judge or jury when one of the good guys needs it.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 29, 2024 04:28 PM (7PziG)

80 Bannon release photo with, I assume, his wife:
https://is.gd/1csU4T

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (hovnC)

81 Glad he's out, he deserves a pardon and a medal.

Or a medal, a gun and a post-dated pardon....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (xcxpd)

82 If Bannon had gotten the teardrop tattoo, that would have been cool.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (pohLc)

83 January 6th participants treated as a violent hunted down. BLM, Antifa, and various Occupy groups allowed to commit consequence-free crimes.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (fxCK2)

The laws that prosecuted J6 folks should also all be removed from the federal books. After the last decade, it is also obvious that these laws are only applied one way.

As you can tell, I'm a fan of bringing the federal criminal justice code down a TON. If a local community still wants to take the time and money to prosecute for some things (which should be crimes), they can go for it. But feds, who have shown partisanship, should be done.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (exHjb)

84 But Biden, Harris, and the entire democrat party perverted the justice system to make us safe and protect democracy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (17s+e)

85 And RIP Terri Garr. Just watched Young Frankenstein a few weeks ago...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 04:30 PM (xcxpd)

86 Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

In the age of politically-motivated prosecutions, I have reservations.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:30 PM (D3+QX)

87 The Democrats had to destroy Democracy to save Democracy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 04:30 PM (uLfN1)

88 There is always a leftist or two on a jury whenever a commie is in trial. Never a conservative judge or jury when one of the good guys needs it.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 29, 2024 04:28 PM (7PziG)
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Yep. Kyle Rittenhouse definitely dodged a bullet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:30 PM (YqDXo)

89 84 But Biden, Harris, and the entire democrat party perverted the justice system to make us safe and protect democracy.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (17s+e)

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More or less than how Harris protected democracy by removing the democratically selected nominee for president of her party with herself?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

90 I assume that Trump cannot legally own a gun?? Or vote, if a convicted felon??

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

91 And this is another example of the courts, that self-righteousnessly thunder all the time about protecting rights and the Constitution are really just toddlers digging in their shitty diaper and writing "opinions" on the walls of America whenever it comes to Republicans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 04:23 PM (Lla4W)
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It's been in this country's slouch toward social leftism for a while.

Nothing is rigorously applied. And we resent rigorous application.

Everything is word association. And "I just think".

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (krQz2)

92 86 Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

In the age of politically-motivated prosecutions, I have reservations.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:30 PM (D3+QX)
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True. Me too. I was speaking to the principle, not the practice as plied by the Democrats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

93 January 6th participants treated as a violent hunted down. BLM, Antifa, and various Occupy groups allowed to commit consequence-free crimes.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (fxCK2)
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Free lancer who worked for Beck, I think it was, got the leg irons and chains routine even though he offered to set up a voluntary surrender. (he was covering J6 I think) There might even have been a gag order threatened or some such.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

94 90 I assume that Trump cannot legally own a gun?? Or vote, if a convicted felon??
Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

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His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

95 Local black conservative has video about the small gathering Trump had in Detroit.

https://tinyurl.com/468467jt

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (fxCK2)

96 94 90 I assume that Trump cannot legally own a gun?? Or vote, if a convicted felon??
Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

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His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

Ah, so later then. Thanks.

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (PCK5/)

97 As you can tell, I'm a fan of bringing the federal criminal justice code down a TON. If a local community still wants to take the time and money to prosecute for some things (which should be crimes), they can go for it. But feds, who have shown partisanship, should be done.
Posted by: Nova Local


Agreed. There should be very few crimes prosecutable by the Feds. Treason (the only crime defined in the Constitution) would be the major ones. Espionage, military crimes, assassination or attempted assassination of a federal office holder would be some others.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)

98 Not gonna happen but I'd laugh my ass off if Trump outlined all the precedents Obama, UniParty, Deep State, Biden/Harris Junta set and went on a huge purge that makes Stalin's housekeeping look like kid stuff.

... Maybe this is why he needs Greenland...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (/lPRQ)

99 Trump needs to establish a new unit, the Payback Machine. He can then concentrate on presidential stuff while these guys can go break some legs and drill some kneecaps. They'll get a lot of names, dates, and who took sums of money that way.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm voting Trump but I want payback at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (i0xsb)

100 That is Bannon's Daughter, Maureen, in that release photo.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (jyAD3)

101 We don't live under the rule of law.

We live under the pretense of the rule of law.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (N1DT3)

102 His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

Wondering how it will work if Trump wins and Merchan sentences him to immediate jail time ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (IyPmt)

103 I assume that Trump cannot legally own a gun?? Or vote, if a convicted felon??
Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

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His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Also, doesn't it matter that he's not been convicted of anything in Florida?

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (krQz2)

104 I assume that Trump cannot legally own a gun?? Or vote, if a convicted felon??

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM


You are correct.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

105 102 His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

Wondering how it will work if Trump wins and Merchan sentences him to immediate jail time ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (IyPmt)

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With fireworks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

106 True. Me too. I was speaking to the principle, not the practice as plied by the Democrats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

My view is more strict. If can't be trusted, stay locked up. If you've paid your debt - also questionable with the left - I am fine with full rights restoration.

Professional orgs can police their members.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:34 PM (D3+QX)

107 My favorite Teri Garr role was as the ditsy girlfriend in Tootsie.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:34 PM (v6JzV)

108 103
His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Also, doesn't it matter that he's not been convicted of anything in Florida?
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (krQz2)

Yeah, I was going to add something about the rule being state by state, as a question..

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (PCK5/)

109 4 months with 3 hots and a cot in Club Fed.

He is un-tanned, rested and ready.

No teardrop tattoo.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

----

I think he went to the Club Fed with the clay tennis courts.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (/lPRQ)

110 His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM


Trump was convicted of 34 felonies only his sentencing was postponed, he meets the legal definition of convicted felon.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (QNSds)

111 With long, white hair brushed back, Steve Bannon kinda looks like my dad.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (9mfKN)

112 110

Trump was convicted of 34 felonies only his sentencing was postponed, he meets the legal definition of convicted felon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (QNSds)

Thanks for the clarification, MS…

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:36 PM (PCK5/)

113
We need to start swapping out the unjustly accused and convicted with those who thus far have escaped their duly earned just desserts.

Milley, Fauci, and Birx would be a good start.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 29, 2024 04:36 PM (xG4kz)

114
What does his hair have to say?
Posted by: Mister Ghost


Bouncin' and NOT behavin'

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2024 04:36 PM (63Dwl)

115 Everything is word association. And "I just think".

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM (krQz2)
__________________

The phrase that drives me wild is, "I just feel ..."

Like we're in an effing encounter group. Never mind your "feelings," what are your thoughts, such as they are?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

116 We don't live under the rule of law.

We live under the pretense of the rule of law.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (N1DT3)
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We slouched back to the Rule of Men some time ago.

It's how the Democrats think: You should do everything Biden and a Democrat Congress ask of you. And really everything a Republican President or Congress ask you is kind of illegitimate, already contested in the Courts and about to be reversed as soon as we get traction.

When a Democrat uses the term "Rule of Law" it means no more or less than what they mean by it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (krQz2)

117 110 His conviction hasn't actually happened yet. Sentencing got delayed until after the election. The conviction happens at sentencing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:32 PM


Trump was convicted of 34 felonies only his sentencing was postponed, he meets the legal definition of convicted felon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (QNSds)

========

I remember reading that it's not actually true yet. That the conviction is something the judge actually does, affirming the will of the jury, and it's tied up in the sentencing process.

There was back and forth about how the whole "convicted felon" thing isn't actually accurate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

118 CONVICTED FELON
NAZI
DICTATOR
THREAT TO OUR PRECIOUS DEMOCRACY

Posted by: wth at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

119 His side of the story was that the committee wasn't comprised according to the constitutional rules and therefore wasn't legitimate.
The committee had 2 crypto democrats, Cheney and the guy who shot the reporter recently.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (MeG8a)

120 sorry, I been watching too much TV

Posted by: wth at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

121
19 Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:16 PM (E3FnI)

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Time is short. It's OK to mash it into their face piping hot.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (t1fZA)

122 “ I just feel”… makes me want to retch… and that saying is EVERYWHERE now…

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)

123 Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

But it doesn't deprive you of your citizenship, either.


Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:38 PM (v6JzV)

124 Free lancer who worked for Beck, I think it was, got the leg irons and chains routine even though he offered to set up a voluntary surrender. (he was covering J6 I think) There might even have been a gag order threatened or some such.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:31 PM

Steve Baker. I noticed that the "I R journalist!" media didn't care about his First Amendment rights or media coverage of historical events in his case.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (fxCK2)

125 Teri Garr was a frequent guest on the old (NBC) Letterman show

I always liked her

Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (/7KEl)

126 Agreed. There should be very few crimes prosecutable by the Feds. Treason (the only crime defined in the Constitution) would be the major ones. Espionage, military crimes, assassination or attempted assassination of a federal office holder would be some others.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)

———

I’d go one further and say that the only arrest powers Federal law enforcement should have is via local law enforcement by sworn testimony to a local magistrate.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (E3FnI)

127 Convicted felons ARE functionally second class citizens, in a number of ways… has been that way for a long long time.

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:40 PM (PCK5/)

128 Time is short. It's OK to mash it into their face piping hot.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 29, 2024 04:37 PM


This could be (mis)construed in so many ways.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 29, 2024 04:40 PM (fxCK2)

129 I’d go one further and say that the only arrest powers Federal law enforcement should have is via local law enforcement by sworn testimony to a local magistrate.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Agreed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:41 PM (v6JzV)

130 the committee wasn't comprised according to the constitutional rules and therefore wasn't legitimate.

GASSSSS THEM

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:41 PM (uYJK1)

131
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken


And intravenously.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2024 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

132 My view is more strict. If can't be trusted, stay locked up. If you've paid your debt - also questionable with the left - I am fine with full rights restoration.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:34 PM (D3+QX)
____________________

I reject the "debt" construction. In principle, if you're paying a debt for a crime, presumably you could pre-pay your debt, and then go and happily commit the crime.

My view on trust is more nuanced. Trusted with respect to what? I put forth some examples above where I would never trust that person again in any role that bore any resemblance to his previous crime.

For example, would I let an convicted embezzler work with kids? Yeah, sure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (YqDXo)

133 >>Convicted felons ARE functionally second class citizens, in a number of ways… has been that way for a long long time.

Same with Republicans.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (LkLld)

134 Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:41 PM (uYJK1)



Didn't Ace ask you to knock that off?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (v6JzV)

135 Terri Garr was absolutely beautiful, funny and had that personality that seemed very approachable. Sure she would knock me down for a date, but it would be with a feather and I’d enjoy every minute of it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (E3FnI)

136 sworn testimony

Testi-lie?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (uYJK1)

137 Didn't Ace ask you to knock that off?

Wait what?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:43 PM (uYJK1)

138 Speaking of Club Fed, I wonder how all these weebs will do there
youtu.be/YF-7zwv-xIM

Posted by: gKWVE at October 29, 2024 04:43 PM (gKWVE)

139 Got about an hour, maybe a little less, before I can tiptoe outta here. My boss has gone to a talk and it's scheduled to run until 4:30, so maybe I can slide out a hair early.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

Where's Wolfus?

Posted by: Boss who comes back five minutes later because the meeting was canceled at October 29, 2024 04:43 PM (at8hB)

140 It's a good thing that Bannon has been released so close to the election day. This will keep it fresh in people's minds that the real fascists, dictators and oppressors are in power now and need to be voted out. People must be protected from this East German political lunacy.

Posted by: Decaf at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (unUNN)

141 Four Seasons Atlanta on lockdown as gunman barricades himself inside

https://mol.im/a/14016779

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm voting Trump but I want payback! at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (i0xsb)

142 I'm upset that more people aren't upset at Dems' lawfare.

These fucking judges need to be strung up.

Posted by: Lacra at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (4pwAx)

143 First order of bidness for Trump has to be a pardon for all J6 political prisoners.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (dWKBd)

144 126 Agreed. There should be very few crimes prosecutable by the Feds. Treason (the only crime defined in the Constitution) would be the major ones. Espionage, military crimes, assassination or attempted assassination of a federal office holder would be some others.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)

———

I’d go one further and say that the only arrest powers Federal law enforcement should have is via local law enforcement by sworn testimony to a local magistrate.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (E3FnI)

AKA - no FBI. I agree.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (exHjb)

145 125 Teri Garr was a frequent guest on the old (NBC) Letterman show

I always liked her
Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (/7KEl)

I remember the show he did from his office where he talked her into stepping next door and taking a shower.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (LxER7)

146 LOL he told Kamala to suck it.

Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (VnUSN)

147 Didn't Ace ask you to knock that off?

Wait what?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism i


He asked someone in an earlier thread today to knock it off with the gassing stuff.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (v6JzV)

148 The phrase that drives me wild is, "I just feel ..."

Like we're in an effing encounter group. Never mind your "feelings," what are your thoughts, such as they are?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:36 PM (YqDXo)
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While I understand the phrase "my truth", which is kind of a related position. If "your truth" extends to a requirement for everybody else regardless of "their truth", you're not using any balance in the idea of "personal truths".

And that is the main sin of Democratism: it is a plan of government, which is coercion, so it is disingenuous coercion disguised as a lack of dogma, but simply smuggles another dogma into the room behind it.

It is not serious enough as an open-ended evaluation--because it's focus is the application in government, again , the coercive power of government.

But this is the ultimate practice of political nihilism. If nothing is fixed, we just want OUR WAY! It's as legitimate as any other outcome, because we've dissembled everything else.

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (krQz2)

149 146 LOL he told Kamala to suck it.
Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (VnUSN)

He = Bannon

https://www.youtube.com/live/ENJKPyNMdNQ

Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (VnUSN)

150 What knockers!

https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp11630080.jpg

SFW

Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (/7KEl)

151 These fucking judges need to be strung up.

What, no GASSSSSSSSSS?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:46 PM (uYJK1)

152 123 Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

But it doesn't deprive you of your citizenship, either.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:38 PM (v6JzV)
______________

No, it doesn't, but you aren't now in the same class as someone who's never been convicted, nor should you be. For example, the military won't take convicted felons, bar associations (IIRC) will not allow them to practice law, medical associations (again IIRC) will not allow them to practice medicine, those guilty of serious financial improprieties (e.g., Madoff) are banned for life from the financial industry, time served notwithstanding.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:46 PM (YqDXo)

153 He just spent 4 months immersed in black and brown youth culture. I'm sure he has gained powerful insights into their thinking and what ideas they respond to.

I hope the GOP puts that knowledge to good use. If we could get black voter support of GOP candidates up to - what - 30%? - dems would be toast.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:46 PM (QGaXH)

154 I would argue that a false accusation of treason should be a Federal crime.
All those assholes involved in the Russia Collusion hoax need to be in Leavenworth.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 29, 2024 04:46 PM (gKWVE)

155 My view on trust is more nuanced. Trusted with respect to what? I put forth some examples above where I would never trust that person again in any role that bore any resemblance to his previous crime.

For example, would I let an convicted embezzler work with kids? Yeah, sure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:42 PM (YqDXo)

I've never been on the wrong side of the law. I would expect that punishment should not extend indefinitely, except in rare instances of murder and rape. Trust in a particular context is largely a market info issue.

Aside from fairness, there is an argument to be made that continual punishment is a disincentive to rehabilitation.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (D3+QX)

156 ya know, mrs and i went and voted early yesterday. and there was a good long line.

i'm coming around to the way of thinking that we make election day a national holiday.

But i also have a few stipulations.

NO business is open.
Only truly essential workers are at work, hospital, cops, fire, etc.
Only Military get absentee ballots, that are done ON post by the JAG & command, active war zone exceptions can be arranged.

otherwise, you miss the vote, it's your fault.

and anyone failing to report the results by 11PM news local time, the vote is invalid due to fraud and all officials and workers involved go to jail for 5 years.

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (nXhwP)

157
He asked someone in an earlier thread today to knock it off with the gassing stuff.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (v6JzV)
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* sheepish grin *
* slides bowl of chili away *

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (krQz2)

158 Bannon taught a civics class in prison! To about 100 students.

Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (VnUSN)

159 78 Sachin Jose
@Sachinettiyil
Archbishop of Cincinnati, Dennis M. Schnurr, has announced the archdiocese’s decision to discontinue its parishes’ partnerships with the Girl Scouts, stating that the organization has “contributed to normalizing a sexual and gender ideology contrary to the Catholic understanding of the human person, made male and female in the image and likeness of God.”

The is the Diocese's way of saying: "No, f**k you!"
Posted by: Tonypete at October 29, 2024 04:27 PM (WXNFJ)

How about the Boy Scouts?

BTW - American Heritage Girls is a great alternative to the Girl Scouts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (N39Ws)

160 I would argue that a false accusation of treason should be a Federal crime.
All those assholes involved in the Russia Collusion hoax need to be in Leavenworth.
Posted by: gKWVE

Agreed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

161 It's a good thing that Bannon has been released so close to the election day. This will keep it fresh in people's minds that the real fascists, dictators and oppressors are in power now and need to be voted out. People must be protected from this East German political lunacy.

Posted by: Decaf at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM


They were trying to keep him illegally locked up until after the election but the threat of Trump winning probably made some of them actually follow the law as a cya move.


I fully expect Trump to pardon him but he still faces the NY state kangaroo court case stuff and Trump can't help him there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (QNSds)

162 He asked someone in an earlier thread today to knock it off with the gassing stuff.

But string em up is kosher?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (uYJK1)

163 150 What knockers!

https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp11630080.jpg

SFW
Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (/7KEl)

Yowza!!

Looks like she's got a balloon for a right boob?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (QGaXH)

164 44 126 Agreed. There should be very few crimes prosecutable by the Feds. Treason (the only crime defined in the Constitution) would be the major ones. Espionage, military crimes, assassination or attempted assassination of a federal office holder would be some others.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)
__________________

Crossing state lines after committing a felony? Which state(s) have jurisdiction?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (YqDXo)

165 Trump was convicted of 34 felonies only his sentencing was postponed, he meets the legal definition of convicted felon.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:35 PM (QNSds)

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I had forgotten all about that. No doubt THIS is what the Dems will pull out and use if Trump wins the election next week. They'll have him frog-marched to prison and declare that he's ineligible to be POTUS.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (7fElN)

166 141 Four Seasons Atlanta on lockdown as gunman barricades himself inside

https://mol.im/a/14016779
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm voting Trump but I want payback! at October 29, 2024 04:44 PM (i0xsb)

It's OK, Nathan Wade. Fani still loves you long time.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (N39Ws)

167 I want to see Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzk, Page, and a whole host of others that engaged in actual criminal behavior and horribly abused their office to chill it in club fed for at least 15 years.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (JNTt1)

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They must at least be indicted, there must be consequences for what they have done.

Posted by: Decaf at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (unUNN)

168 BTW - American Heritage Girls is a great alternative to the Girl Scouts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (N39Ws)
_______________

Until the Reds, lesbians, etc. draw a bead on them too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (YqDXo)

169 The Verge, a left wing tech publication, has stepped in to fill the vacuum left by major left wing media publications who refused to endorse the USA's first DEI candidate, Kamala Harris.

Behold: "A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for school shootings and measles."

Going on: "Donald Trump is a dangerous maniac who can barely complete a sentence, and it is lunacy to believe he can even recognize the existentially threatening collective action problems facing our nation, let alone actually solve them."

The 3 hour interview with Joe Rogan aside, I get what they are saying about his inability to form sentences the give Tim Walz his first hard-on in decades. As for the "collection active problem" I say deport the authors to Seattle and give the jobs waiting tables in a Thai restaurant. That should give them some real experience in collective action.

The comment section is equally worth your time though you will need to allow for a shower afterwards.

https://is.gd/mrKk4O

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (/OFEP)

170 Crossing state lines after committing a felony? Which state(s) have jurisdiction?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Whichever state the felony was committed in.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (v6JzV)

171 OT:

https://x.com/sfalmy/status/
1851360501948957054/photo/1

The above leads to a graph detailing early voting trends in AZ, comparing current year's efforts to 16 and 20.

The key graph is the bottom right. AZ is a state where Republicans are actually returning at higher raw numbers than in 2020. Part of that is driven by registration changes in the last 4 years, but it can't explain too much of it.

However, the curious thing is the difference between the two blue lines comparing Democrat returns/early voting in 20 vs 24. It's...heavily down.

And it's part of the pattern you can see in NC, NJ, NH, and PA and things you can infer from data from places like GA and WI.

Democrats are just...not voting all that much this year. It's weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

172 I remember the show he did from his office where he talked her into stepping next door and taking a shower.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:45 PM (LxER7)

really? how did i miss this?

still have a crush on her, though it appears to be a bit late now...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (nXhwP)

173 I'll say it again, if Trump wins his second act after firing all Democratic political appointees should be ,after getting informants and Undercovers to safety, to dump the entire FBI database onto the web. Nuke it from orbit so to speak

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (aRslG)

174 I still don't understand why he didn't go to appear at Congress and tell every Democrat and RINO to GFT.

Quick search reveals his lawyer saying "Because Steve didn't like the optics of that".

WTF?

To me I think the best optics would have been to repeatedly say " I plead the 5th and.... oh yeah.... Go fuck yourself"

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (shw70)

175 I want to see Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzk, Page, and a whole host of others that engaged in actual criminal behavior and horribly abused their office to chill it in club fed for at least 15 years.



Fuck Club Fed. I want them in the baddest california prison with all the gangs and shit. Let them get a taste of real white supremacists that they whine about all the time.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (dWKBd)

176 165

I had forgotten all about that. No doubt THIS is what the Dems will pull out and use if Trump wins the election next week. They'll have him frog-marched to prison and declare that he's ineligible to be POTUS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (7fElN)

I have thought that since his convictions… always an option, and they would not hesitate… IF the PTB decide to go YOLO.

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (PCK5/)

177 161


I fully expect Trump to pardon him but he still faces the NY state kangaroo court case stuff and Trump can't help him there.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (QNSds)

I question that. The constitution grants the president the power to pardon. I don't see any text limiting it to federal only. Going from memory here so could be mistaken.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (QGaXH)

178 Did you think that Kamala actually bragged about getting 95 on an IQ test?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

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Considering everything we know about her she would be proud of that score.

Posted by: Decaf at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (unUNN)

179 I meant the near-worst of TOS; I should have specified. That episode with Beverly did have some nice atmosphere. (More entertaining overall than the Anne Rice novel it was lifted from.) I have favorites for TNG, but not many I would describe as terrible, dull, or just plain bad
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 04:22 PM (J2vNu)

The "Tar Baby" episode (Skin of Evil) is philosophically the worst Star Trek I've ever seen. A "good" race somehow scrapes off there evilness into a monster that they leave alone there without company a guard or a warning sign. A farther contrast from the Horta episode in TOS than I can imagine. Then they killed the "Rape Gang" girl in it.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (n7h9X)

180 Kamala has decided to spend election night at Howard University in DC.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (exHjb)

181 They were trying to keep him illegally locked up until after the election but the threat of Trump winning probably made some of them actually follow the law as a cya move.

Oct 2024 Dems = Jan 1981 Iran

Posted by: t-bird at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (tvIQJ)

182 I’d go one further and say that the only arrest powers Federal law enforcement should have is via local law enforcement by sworn testimony to a local magistrate.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (E3FnI)
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I wrote a letter stating all arrest powers needed to removed from federal agents, that if they need to arrest people work with local LE, along with abolishing Fed SWAT teams and put it in with a donation to the RNC. I'm sure the letter wound up in a circular file somewhere, but, I at least gave them my perspective.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (tT6L1)

183 Convicted felons ARE functionally second class citizens, in a number of ways… has been that way for a long long time.

Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:40 PM (PCK5/)
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Yup, if someone didn't pay off a stripper with campaign funds (when we can't even be sure he knew she was being paid off and what for--except C'MON!), you should never trust them again

For society's safety.

However let's let violent assailants out the revolving door that afternoon! It's only fair.

We're just thinking about the safety of society and "fairness"...but mostly "fairness".

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (krQz2)

184 I've never been on the wrong side of the law.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Doubtful. There are so many laws on the books, every one of us, with possible exception of Fen, has committed innumerable misdemeanors and maybe some felonies. We just haven't been charged.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (/xBXv)

185 80 Bannon release photo with, I assume, his wife:
https://is.gd/1csU4T
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 29, 2024 04:29 PM (hovnC)

His daughter Maureen, I think.

Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (VnUSN)

186 Supreme Court denies RFK Jrs request to have his name removed from the MI and WI ballots.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (LkLld)

187 Trump isn't actually guilty of a fucking thing, save vexing the Cursed communists shitweasels.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (pohLc)

188 Democrats are just...not voting all that much this year. It's weird.



Does this include mail in? Cuz that’s where the Dems crush it. I don’t know why but they love mailing in their ballots vs doing it in person.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (dWKBd)

189 Did you think that Kamala actually bragged about getting 95 on an IQ test?

It's almost a perfect score!

Posted by: Kambala Harris at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (zMQny)

190 I had forgotten all about that. No doubt THIS is what the Dems will pull out and use if Trump wins the election next week. They'll have him frog-marched to prison and declare that he's ineligible to be POTUS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (7fElN)

I have thought that since his convictions… always an option, and they would not hesitate… IF the PTB decide to go YOLO.
Posted by: tubal at October 29, 2024 04:50 PM (PCK5/)

Supremes have already said there is no bar for President that way. The qualifications are already in the Constitution.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (n7h9X)

191 Art II Sec 2

pardons

he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (/7KEl)

192 33 Bannon looks like attorney Melvin Belli playing "Gorgan the Friendly Angel" on that near-worst of all Trek episodes.

I'm not sure if that's even bottom 5.

Beverly Crusher having sex with Scottish ghosts is still the whatever the opposite of gold is standard.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (2ocoG)

I believe it's among the near-worst of TOS epicodes.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (QGaXH)

193 "First order of bidness for Trump has to be a pardon for all J6 political prisoners.
Posted by: Settled Science"
****************
First order of business is Trump pardoning Trump.

Posted by: Cosda at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (J5EQk)

194 Aside from fairness, there is an argument to be made that continual punishment is a disincentive to rehabilitation.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (D3+QX)
_________________

IMO, rehabilitation is a chimera, and like education is ineffective except in those happy instances where it is almost superfluous (as someone once said).

Retribution is a surer way to reduce recidivism. Joe Arpaio has shown the way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (YqDXo)

195 * slides bowl of chili away *
Posted by: Axeman

Chili gives me gas.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (+969c)

196 If Trump doesn't win, he will be sentenced to Rikers on Nov. 26 and we will never see him again.
That's my prediction.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (MeG8a)

197 Democrats are just...not voting all that much this year. It's weird.



Does this include mail in? Cuz that’s where the Dems crush it. I don’t know why but they love mailing in their ballots vs doing it in person.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (dWKBd)

The records are mail in and inperson are down overall and with Dems in particular.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 04:54 PM (n7h9X)

198 I've never been on the wrong side of the law.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

You’ve never driven 1 mile over the limit?

Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:54 PM (dWKBd)

199 I would argue that a false accusation of treason should be a Federal crime.
All those assholes involved in the Russia Collusion hoax need to be in Leavenworth.
Posted by: gKWVE

When officials are targeted it my qualify as insurrection.
Only one way to know - arrest and maybe a trial after a few years of solitary confinement.
Precident has been set. Start with the fvckin judge who allowed the j6 circus.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:54 PM (/lPRQ)

200 I’d go one further and say that the only arrest powers Federal law enforcement should have is via local law enforcement by sworn testimony to a local magistrate.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 29, 2024 04:39 PM (E3FnI)

AKA - no FBI. I agree.
Posted by: Nova Local

It was that way until the 1930's for the FBI. Federal marshalls had arrest authority but for federal crimes (which used to be limited in number) since the founding. Dunno about revenue and customs agents which again were in existence at the founding of the current government.

There were no federal prisons (aside from US military hoosegows for military members committing crimes) until Reconstruction era as well.

Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 04:54 PM (ctrM5)

201 188 Democrats are just...not voting all that much this year. It's weird.



Does this include mail in? Cuz that’s where the Dems crush it. I don’t know why but they love mailing in their ballots vs doing it in person.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (dWKBd)

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Yes, it includes mail in.

Mail in results are just...massively down across the board.

The explanation (or cope, as the cool guys on Twitter say) is that Democrats are changing years of voting behavior, including in states that have long had experience with early voting like NC, and suddenly deciding to vote on election day despite...wide institutional efforts to convince people on both sides of the aisle to vote early.

It's weird...if 2020 was genuine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:54 PM (GBKbO)

202 So comrade Flounder has never jaywalked. Slow rolled a stop sign. Exceeded the speed limit. Quite a statement to proclaim yourself without sin.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (pohLc)

203 However, the curious thing is the difference between the two blue lines comparing Democrat returns/early voting in 20 vs 24. It's...heavily down.

And it's part of the pattern you can see in NC, NJ, NH, and PA and things you can infer from data from places like GA and WI.

Democrats are just...not voting all that much this year. It's weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)
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With fewer mail in ballots out there it will be difficult to create enough "questionable votes" in the counting process. I'm busy trying to think where this is going. It's one thing to find 400-500 votes in a box in a car trunk. How do you find 150,000 votes?

Posted by: Black JEM at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (GZYu7)

204 Crossing state lines after committing a felony? Which state(s) have jurisdiction?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:48 PM (YqDXo)
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Ted Bundy was not extradited from FL because FL had the death penalty.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (tT6L1)

205 now

what constitutes an offence (sic) against the United States

if Trump supposedly broke some campaign finance law, as was alleged, did he then offend the United States

Posted by: Don Black at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)

206 I've never been on the wrong side of the law.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
____

Doubtful.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 29, 2024 04:52 PM (/xBXv)

You'll never catch me, coppers!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (D3+QX)

207 Did you think that Kamala actually bragged about getting 95 on an IQ test?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

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Considering everything we know about her she would be proud of that score.

Posted by: Decaf at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (unUNN)
________________

"And I didn't even cheat!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (YqDXo)

208 nood

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (nXhwP)

209 The worst Star Trek TOS episode was "Shore Leave".

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 29, 2024 04:56 PM (LxER7)

210 203 With fewer mail in ballots out there it will be difficult to create enough "questionable votes" in the counting process. I'm busy trying to think where this is going. It's one thing to find 400-500 votes in a box in a car trunk. How do you find 150,000 votes?
Posted by: Black JEM at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (GZYu7)

========

Well, let's not forget that there's video evidence of an election worker in Fulton County running the same stack of ballots through a counting machine three times.

They can manufacture a whole lot. How much is the only question.

But the upper bounds in a place like GA, after months of mail in ballot fraud, was probably a hundred thousand created last second. It's looking like the new requirement would need to be several times more. All while the RNC isn't controlled by a Romney anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

211 So comrade Flounder has never jaywalked. Slow rolled a stop sign. Exceeded the speed limit. Quite a statement to proclaim yourself without sin.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (pohLc)

You guys need to step back from the keyboard. Never been arrested, never been charged or investigated.

Better? Geez.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:56 PM (D3+QX)

212 Ted Bundy was not extradited from FL because FL had the death penalty.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (tT6L1)
_______________

That was because the variety of other states were perfectly happy to let Florida carry the ball.

Interestingly, murder is not a Federal offense, but rather a state offense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:57 PM (YqDXo)

213 IMO, rehabilitation is a chimera, and like education is ineffective except in those happy instances where it is almost superfluous (as someone once said).

Retribution is a surer way to reduce recidivism. Joe Arpaio has shown the way.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

A homogeneous society can pull it off like Japan has. Heterogeneous societies do not do as well because different cultures have different values of what is right or wrong and will inevitably display differentials in behavior leading to differentials in prison populations.

That includes poor societies as well because the key is the society, not the downstream political institutions, as to rehabilitation, punishment, etc.

Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 04:57 PM (ctrM5)

214 Can Trump pardon himself?

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 04:57 PM (jyAD3)

215 Too soon?

https://tinyurl.com/35dxvpwd

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 04:58 PM (uLfN1)

216 208 nood
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (nXhwP)

Posted by: m at October 29, 2024 04:58 PM (VnUSN)

217 71 Second look at the felon vote? Though honestly if you've served your sentence and your probation you shouldn't be barred from voting or anything. You've either served the terms and are a full citizen again or not.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 04:23 PM (tfY4F)
________________

With respect, I strongly disagree. If you're an MD who was selling drugs illegally, should you be allowed to return to practicing medicine? If you're an embezzler, should you be allowed to return to the financial industry? If you're a child molester, should you be allowed to work with kids?

Serving your time does not make you a virgin again.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

There's no constitutional right to practice medicine.
There's no constitutional right to work in finance
There's no constitutional right to work with kiddies

There are constitutional rights to vote and bear arms.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:59 PM (QGaXH)

218 >>If Trump doesn't win, he will be sentenced to Rikers on Nov. 26 and we will never see him again.
That's my prediction.

Pretty good chance his appeal will come before the sentencing.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 04:59 PM (LkLld)

219 That was because the variety of other states were perfectly happy to let Florida carry the ball.

Interestingly, murder is not a Federal offense, but rather a state offense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 29, 2024 04:57 PM (YqDXo)
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I was under the impression Bundy facing the death penalty was the unspoken reason. State LE did not want to risk him making bail at some point.

There are so few crimes where federal LE is really needed, let the FBI investigate, then go to local LE with evidence, have local LE arrest.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 05:00 PM (tT6L1)

220 >>Can Trump pardon himself?

Not for a state level conviction.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 05:00 PM (LkLld)

221 Did you think that Kamala actually bragged about getting 95 on an IQ test?

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MENSA test do not measure IQ. They aren't the same scale. In IQ you want more than 100. You can't get more than a score of 100 as a percentage on a test.

MENSA actually considers that IQ is an inadequate measure of traits that really matter for functioning intelligence. Which is why the developed their own tests which test analysis and problem solving and reasoning. Not a single question is designed for the average person to get a score. So, a score of 0 could be average.

A normal IQ test has to have questions below average and average people can get so as to gauge a non-zero "score".

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 05:00 PM (krQz2)

222 Correction, Bundy making parole, not bail. Sheesh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 05:00 PM (tT6L1)

223 195 * slides bowl of chili away *
Posted by: Axeman

Chili gives me gas.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (+969c)

Small price to pay - unless you are over 50. Never ever trust a fart when you are > 50.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 29, 2024 05:01 PM (N39Ws)

224 The "Tar Baby" episode (Skin of Evil) is philosophically the worst Star Trek I've ever seen[ . . . ]
Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 04:51 PM (n7h9X)


that was pretty much the point when I decided the series was not worth watching. I saw other episodes, but I never went out of my way to watch them.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 05:02 PM (D7oie)

225 Aside from fairness, there is an argument to be made that continual punishment is a disincentive to rehabilitation.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 04:47 PM (D3+QX)

Rehabilitation is not the job the incarceration industry, and most of the attempts to rehab contradict the job of incarcerating. The ones letting prisoners to train pets under supervision is an exception.

If there is to be a rehab process it needs to be run in an entirely different manner and be judged as to effectiveness rigorously. Too many reoffenders you lose your job and program.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 05:03 PM (n7h9X)

226 You guys need to step back from the keyboard. Never been arrested, never been charged or investigated.

Better? Geez.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Don't read 3 Felonies a Day by Harvey Silverstein (lawyer). In seriousness, federal and many state laws are so vague in application and piss poor wording that people unwitting can run afoul of them. A perfect example is the DMCA--Digital Millennium Copyright Act which probably everyone in the US have unwittingly violated at one time or another. That has stiff penalties included for violation.

That leads to the Kafkaesque (and equal protection clause) where the prosecutors overcharge and rely on vague untried statutory language in order to punish the chosen victim via process, if not actually sending them to jail or taking their money. Civil forfeiture laws demonstrate the same dynamic by requiring a person to prove seized money is theirs.

Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 05:03 PM (ctrM5)

227 If Trump doesn't win, he will be sentenced to Rikers on Nov. 26 and we will never see him again.
That's my prediction.

Pretty good chance his appeal will come before the sentencing.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 04:59 PM (LkLld)
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DeSantis has not indicated that he will give Trump over to NY and has given negative indications to that.

Trump would have to watch out that he never steps foot in NY again--and would probably have to move his assets out. But, he could just be "Wanted in New York".

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2)

228 Don't read 3 Felonies a Day by Harvey Silverstein (lawyer).
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 05:03 PM (ctrM5)
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* thumbs up *

Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2)

229 100 That is Bannon's Daughter, Maureen, in that release photo.
Posted by: Seems Legit
====
Thanks.

Late reply as I was busy elsewhere.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 29, 2024 05:05 PM (hovnC)

230 that was pretty much the point when I decided the series was not worth watching. I saw other episodes, but I never went out of my way to watch them.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 05:02 PM (D7oie)

My officemate watched them for me and somehow I had a second chance soon after to see them, I don't remember how. He did recommend the soon after show where star fleet command was eating bugs by the bushelfull.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 05:06 PM (n7h9X)

231 Pretty good chance his appeal will come before the sentencing.
Posted by: JackStraw
====
Predicting state appellate court action in NY outside the system is perilous enough for a regular person but the system there is now engaged in a multi point vendetta against a single individual which is unprecedented in our legal history.

Even Jeff Davis got acquitted of treason eventually but was not tried in multiple state courts for upsetting the GOP party of the time nor by fake libel claims by proclaiming one's innocence.

Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 05:06 PM (ctrM5)

232 >>Trump would have to watch out that he never steps foot in NY again--and would probably have to move his assets out. But, he could just be "Wanted in New York".


People seem to forget the Supreme Court ruled Trump was immune from charges for official acts and there is a big dispute about whether or not Merchan abused Trump's rights. It's still under appeal.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 05:06 PM (LkLld)

233 So comrade Flounder has never jaywalked. Slow rolled a stop sign. Exceeded the speed limit. Quite a statement to proclaim yourself without sin.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (pohLc)


I . . . I once knew someone who [whisper] *carried gasoline in a glass quart jar*!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 05:07 PM (D7oie)

234 Beverly Crusher having sex with Scottish ghosts is still the whatever the opposite of gold is standard.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 04:18 PM (2ocoG)

I believe it's among the near-worst of TOS epicodes.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 29, 2024 04:53 PM (QGaXH)

Not the Betazoid Virgin Birth episode?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 05:11 PM (n7h9X)

235 nood Kamala rape

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 29, 2024 05:13 PM (hovnC)

236 People seem to forget the Supreme Court ruled Trump was immune from charges for official acts and there is a big dispute about whether or not Merchan abused Trump's rights. It's still under appeal.
Posted by: JackStraw

I don't forget that but the normal procedure which can be followed by appellate courts if they wish is not to disrupt the ordinary process by what is called interlocutory appeals. Given the normal slowness of courts, until Merchan sentences Trump, the appellate court can dither whether or not to actually address the immunity issue separately or wait for Merchan to sentence before declaring the lower court judgment as complete and ripe for appeal plus whatever time limits, etc. exist in NY law regarding appeals.

That would theoretically allow Merchan to send Trump to prison until the appellate court rules. Trump could try collateral proceedings via federal district court and habeas but again, depends on the judge involved, etc. to issue a stay pending a decision.

It is a complicated mess in the first place due to entangling federal and state legal issues and appellate courts like settled procedures which makes them slow to rule. Then you have federal claims.

Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 05:13 PM (ctrM5)

237 Even Jeff Davis got acquitted of treason eventually but was not tried in multiple state courts for upsetting the GOP party of the time nor by fake libel claims by proclaiming one's innocence.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 05:06 PM (ctrM5)

Not acquitted I believe but paroled and released. After that there was a question about the ability to get a conviction even among Republicans and the government took it no further.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 29, 2024 05:15 PM (n7h9X)

238 If Trump wins everything in NY disappears quietly, through extensions and delays and eventual dismissal.

If he loses it will disappear about the same way.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 29, 2024 05:16 PM (GZYu7)

239 202 So comrade Flounder has never jaywalked. Slow rolled a stop sign. Exceeded the speed limit. Quite a statement to proclaim yourself without sin.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 29, 2024 04:55 PM (pohLc)
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Those are misdemeanors and not felonies.

Posted by: Ciampino - Warning or fine versus jail at October 29, 2024 05:20 PM (i0xsb)

240 Can Trump pardon himself?

Not for a state level conviction.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 05:00 PM (LkLld)

As a general statement, that appears to be the law. BUT, what if the predicate for the crime is a violation of Federal law? NY essentially invented a one-of-a-kind crime based on influencing a federal election, distinguishable from your ordinary state crime. Room to argue either way.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at October 29, 2024 05:56 PM (by+vB)

241 The ones who belong in Prison are GATES,SCHEABE SOROS AND SON BOTH THE CLINTONS and BIDEN AND HIS ENTIRE CABINET

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 30, 2024 04:29 PM (wGqjj)

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Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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