Daily Tech News 25 October 2024

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Intel's Arrow Lake desktop CPUs - effectively the 15th generation Core chips though they don't call them that - are finally here. Are they good? Should you buy one? No. (Tom's Hardware)

They do post very good results in a couple of AI benchmarks, and generally solid results in multi-threaded productivity tasks, but on games they average 5% slower than the previous (and cheaper) generation, and are even further behind AMD's previous generation gaming-oriented chips like the 7800X3D.

In fact, for games they are often behind the two-generation-old 5800X3D, sometimes behind the budget-oriented 5700X3D, running roughly even with Intel's three-generation-old 12600K. But costing four times as much.

And while these new chips do use significantly less power than the 14900K blast furnace, they still use significantly more power than AMD's offerings.

Intel managed to one-up AMD's Zen 5, which has been nicknamed Zen 5% for its mediocre performance gains on consumer applications, by actually going backwards.

To complicate matters further, new BIOS features to improve performance that should be on by default, aren't, and when they are turned on manually they sometimes make things worse.

The same goes for Windows, with the latest 24H2 update causing some games to run noticeably slower on Arrow Lake, when the same release improves performance on AMD's Zen 4 and Zen 5 chips.

It's a mess.
And AMD's 9800X3D is due out in two weeks. (WCCFTech)

That looks like the way to go for people who play a lot of recent computer games... Whoever they are, given how poorly received recent titles have been.

If you just need something that works for everyday tasks, something like the 8700G or even the previous generation's 5600GT should do the job nicely.

Tech News

Would you like to play a game? The Biden Administration - whoever the hell is actually running it these days - has ordered the Pentagon and intelligence agencies the increase their use of AI. (MSN)

The risk has never been in the AI itself. The risk has always been the morons in charge of the AI.
The Humane AI Pin has received a $200 price cut down to $499. (MSN)

Plus a $24 monthly subscription plan.

It's still completely useless.
After a 15 year legal battle, the EU has dropped its anti-trust case against Intel. (Notebook Check)

So there's one positive thing.
OpenAI plans to release its next generation chatbot, Orion, before the end of the year. (The Verge)

A preview version of Orion was proud to announce that its name is an anagram of "they are so great".

No, really.
The UN Trust Fund to End Violence against Women - TFEVW, pronounced tfevw, has leaked a 228GB database of victims of violence against women. (HackRead)

You had one job.

You Had One Job Videos of the Day

That bad, huh. You don't even have to watch these, just look at their expressions.

You Have One Job Video of the Day

She's back! I mean, not back, I've never seen this strange-looking rat before.

Disclaimer: I was writing a paper on my PC, and it went bleep-bleep-bleep-bleep...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 G'Day everyone TGIF

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 04:01 AM (fwDg9)

2 Poke.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 25, 2024 04:02 AM (BLOW1)

3 G'day Skip. TGFO.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 25, 2024 04:03 AM (BLOW1)

4 w00t

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:08 AM (VnUSN)

5 >>>A preview version of Orion was proud to announce that its name is an anagram of "they are so great".

Orilly?

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:10 AM (VnUSN)

6 Pride goeth B4 falling downstairs and breaking your 2cuss…

Posted by: Adriane the Shower Curtain INSIDE the Tub Critic . . . at October 25, 2024 04:22 AM (TX4bP)

7 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 25, 2024 04:25 AM (pLaQB)

8 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
3h
A reminder that the LA Times is an uproar because the people who work there don't believe in reporting neutrality and actual journalism.

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:28 AM (VnUSN)

9 Trump is on Joe Rogan today? Or did I miss it?

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 04:53 AM (fwDg9)

10 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
3h
A reminder that the LA Times is an uproar because the people who work there don't believe in reporting neutrality and actual journalism.

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:28 AM (VnUSN)

Wouldn't that be "reporting neutrally"?

Posted by: pedantic pookysgirl at October 25, 2024 04:59 AM (dtlDP)

11 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at October 25, 2024 04:59 AM (86W+h)

12 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 25, 2024 05:04 AM (a1415)

13 >>> Trump is on Joe Rogan today? Or did I miss it?

That's the buzz.

Posted by: fluffy at October 25, 2024 05:04 AM (86W+h)

14 DJT is exhausted according to Harris so probably not

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 05:10 AM (fwDg9)

15 Disclaimer: I was writing a paper on my PC, and it went bleep-bleep-bleep-bleep...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM
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You could use cleaner language in your papers. Just saying, wait ..... you meant the PC?

Posted by: Ciampino - My boomerang won't come back! at October 25, 2024 05:11 AM (i0xsb)

16 5 >>>A preview version of Orion was proud to announce that its name is an anagram of "they are so great".

Orilly?

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:10 AM (VnUSN)
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You're on to something.
Oronion? Orgarlic?

Posted by: Ciampino - Leeks at October 25, 2024 05:14 AM (i0xsb)

17 Good morning. Winter has temporarily receded here in WNC. It’s 47 degrees going into the 70’s and sunny today.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 25, 2024 05:16 AM (JeT24)

18 I did a theatrical performance about puns. It was a play on words.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm a big disgrace to the Aborigine race at October 25, 2024 05:20 AM (i0xsb)

19 It may never rain in southern Pennsylvania, but the 80 degree days are gone. Probably lower 40s
Forward Dog 9 hitting the road

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 05:20 AM (fwDg9)

20 Good morning, good people, from the very brisk and frosty Adirondacks. We took some significant flower damage last night because I forgot to cover stuff. Hence I am not well liked today.

Regardless, may all effort this day result in great benefit to you and extraordinary anguish to the leftwits among us.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 25, 2024 05:23 AM (hKoQL)

21 Time for the morning walk.

BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 25, 2024 05:25 AM (a1415)

22 Everyone must be asleep.
The astronauts had a safe splashdown but I missed it - sleeping. Well I did have another birthday last Sunday so I need my sleep. On the one hand people say getting old means you don't need as much sleep and then others say we sleep more. I seem to sleep in 3-hour stretches.

Posted by: Ciampino - My boomerang won't come back! at October 25, 2024 05:25 AM (i0xsb)

23 Local Fox Newz affliate (DC) has a crap ton of Harris for Prez commercials. Why waste all that money on commercials when Jonestown DC is completely in the bag for whoever the Dems vomit out there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 25, 2024 05:27 AM (pLaQB)

24 Safe travels Skip.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la cucina e stata pulita at October 25, 2024 05:28 AM (i0xsb)

25 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at October 25, 2024 05:29 AM (dg+HA)

26 I'm trying, I need some help here Folks.

--
I know a guy who's addicted to brake fluid, but he says he can stop any time.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, con l'amianto at October 25, 2024 05:33 AM (i0xsb)

27 Good morning! 69F headed for 90 this afternoon here in Cowtown. Prime scooter ridin' weather!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 25, 2024 05:35 AM (3Ope8)

28 After a 15 year legal battle, the EU has dropped its anti-trust case against Intel. (Notebook Check)

So there's one positive thing.
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How much money did Intel burn in its attempted defense?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, una fortuna at October 25, 2024 05:36 AM (i0xsb)

29 Good morning morons

I've been sleeping a lot better these days, but not last night. Maybe I shouldn't have watched Last House on the Left.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:36 AM (RIvkX)

30 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 25, 2024 05:37 AM (hoCmQ)

31 Tell him to power through the addiction. He’ll run out of gas, eventually …

Posted by: Adriane the Shower Curtain INSIDE the Tub Critic . . . at October 25, 2024 05:37 AM (TX4bP)

32 We got some rain last night for the first time in almost a month. I am giddy with anticipation re: checking the rain gauge when it's light out.

Posted by: lizabth at October 25, 2024 05:38 AM (Jfw7U)

33 The local Fox Newz (Jonestown DC) just reported that our IC overlords and NSC are blaming Russia for spreading disinformation about the hurricanes and aftermath that hit Appalachia! Everything is fine and if you hear otherwise, it's disinformation from Russia!! Yay!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 25, 2024 05:39 AM (pLaQB)

34 Well I did have another birthday last Sunday so I need my sleep. On the one hand people say getting old means you don't need as much sleep and then others say we sleep more. I seem to sleep in 3-hour stretches.
Posted by: Ciampino - My boomerang won't come back! at October 25, 2024 05:25 AM (i0xsb)
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*gingerly steps off Ciampino's lawn*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:39 AM (RIvkX)

35 Well, dayshift should be wandering in soon. I'll post when I get home. Maybe. Might just go to bed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 25, 2024 05:41 AM (pLaQB)

36 Local news reporting North Korean troops are fighting in Ukraine.

Another success brought to you by Joe Biden and the Junta's foreign policy establishment.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:41 AM (RIvkX)

37 Evening and morning, early risers and late toilers! 'Tis Friday, the consummation devoutly to be wished!

Taylor Swift's tour is in town; she will do three concerts, tonight, Sat., & Sun., all at 6:45 p.m. I hope the traffic won't be hopelessly snarled when I get on the bridge not far from the Stupordome this afternoon. I'll be going home two hours and more before the concert starts, but ya never know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:41 AM (omVj0)

38 ALIF: At Least It's Friday, or At Last It's Friday

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:44 AM (omVj0)

39 Over at Epoch Times: "A Democrat and a Republican have novel ideas for solving the perennial problem of funding Social Security."

I read the article. It did not suggest throwing Congresspeople off of rooftops.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 05:44 AM (OPGS/)

40 Over at Epoch Times: "A Democrat and a Republican have novel ideas for solving the perennial problem of funding Social Security."

I read the article. It did not suggest throwing Congresspeople off of rooftops.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024

***
The solution is simple. Stop spending money on foreign aid to countries which hate us; stop handing out welfare to everybody with a pulse, esp. those who don't belong here; close the border and confiscate the assets of any CeO whose company is found to be hiring illegals. The problem will resolve itself fairly quickly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)

41 39
I read the article. It did not suggest throwing Congresspeople off of rooftops.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 05:44 AM (OPGS/)
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So, no progress then!

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, li buttiamo dal tetto at October 25, 2024 05:50 AM (i0xsb)

42 ALLF: At Long Last, Friday

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:51 AM (omVj0)

43 I am being inundated with ads made by Jew Hater Nancy Pelosi. She has endorsed my district Supervisor who is a reliable union goon. Seeing her face before morning coffee no es bueno.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:53 AM (RIvkX)

44 42
Wolfus, since I enjoyed Alf I also like your ALLF.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, li buttiamo sempre dal tetto at October 25, 2024 05:53 AM (i0xsb)

45 G'mornin' everyone! Friday, Joy of Man's Desiring!

@32, same here, lizabth, woohoo!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at October 25, 2024 05:54 AM (gY0JQ)

46 The solution is simple. Stop spending money on foreign aid to countries which hate us; stop handing out welfare to everybody with a pulse, esp. those who don't belong here; close the border and confiscate the assets of any CeO whose company is found to be hiring illegals. The problem will resolve itself fairly quickly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)
====
I would like to purchase your newsletter.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:54 AM (RIvkX)

47 David Urban nailed it when he declared afterward that she lost a one-person debate. A couple of examples of her prevaricating and fumbling will suffice to give a sense of just how badly the event went for her.

When Cooper hit her with a question she should have seen coming from a mile away – is Trump’s idea of a border wall actually “stupid,” as she had initially called it? – she panicked immediately and rambled about Trump until Cooper interjected to get her back on track. As an open borders enthusiast who plans to give citizenship to millions of illegals in the country, she had the nerve to say that there needs to be a legal process for immigration and that she will secure the border. Cooper flustered her further by pressing: “So you don’t think the idea of a border wall is stupid anymore?” and she responded again by attacking Trump and complaining that “he didn’t do much of anything” with the wall.
-Mark Tapson

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 05:56 AM (RIvkX)

48 "Behind the scenes"-

A person from Nairobi reflects on God working behind the scenes. It's a kind of poetic reflection as well and the scripture passage is from Isaiah 40:27-31

It is appropriate for both Christians and Jews because it refers to "God" and just mentions Jesus in the prayer following the reflection, although obviously the writer is a believer in Christ:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 05:56 AM (+p96L)

49 48- -Sorry; Forgot the link:

https://tinyurl.com/5e9fbfv8

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 05:58 AM (+p96L)

50 40The solution is simple. Stop spending money on foreign aid to countries which hate us; stop handing out welfare to everybody with a pulse, esp. those who don't belong here; close the border and confiscate the assets of any CeO whose company is found to be hiring illegals. The problem will resolve itself fairly quickly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)

To add to that list:

No more taxation of Social Security.
Any Congressperson who supports taking money from it to pay for anything gets a rooftop tour.

OK, maybe I should hold off on that last request.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 05:58 AM (OPGS/)

51 40
and confiscate the assets of any CeO whose company is found to be hiring illegals. The problem will resolve itself fairly quickly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)
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I think serious jail time is necessary and in a pen. not a county jail. I would say 3 years if the State can prove he knew - no papers or didn't use the tools available to check status, etc.
What's that system available for that, I can't remember the name?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, si potrebbe annegarli at October 25, 2024 06:02 AM (i0xsb)

52 I have a prayer request:

Something got fouled up with job my son was supposed to start-something with funding, or only being able to hire two people instead of three. Son was the third. Anyway, the supervisor wrote and said that son could reapply or he could apply for something else that would take longer but he might be able to have an extension. Son chose the second option but is waiting to hear from the man who interviewed him. Anyway, if you could pray that rough places are made smooth it would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:03 AM (851iC)

53 Something got fouled up with job my son was supposed to start-something with funding, or only being able to hire two people instead of three. Son was the third.

===
That's disappointing. Will make a blessing for him.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2024 06:06 AM (RIvkX)

54 51 What's that system available for that, I can't remember the name?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, si potrebbe annegarli at October 25, 2024 06:02 AM (i0xsb)

eVerify. And yes, hard time for this will work wonders.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 06:07 AM (lXoJ5)

55 Just watched the return of SpaceX crew 8 to Pensacola. Amazing efficiency on display. Everything successfully recovered for reuse and all four astronauts smiled and gave thumbs up as they exited the vehicle.

NASA hired the right company to get these folks to and from the space station. Seven people left up there now, I believe they said, plus three people living on the Chinese station.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 06:08 AM (yeo1r)

56 Fenelon, this being me:

I'll pray for your son and I believe that this is happening because something better is lined up for him. Good luck to him no matter what.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 06:08 AM (lXoJ5)

57 I have no idea who this musician is but FenSpouse says he is a white rapper. Anyway, "Jelly Roll" bought meals for a bunch of people in Little Rock. , AR:

https://tinyurl.com/eejurfnp

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:08 AM (851iC)

58 52

Something got fouled up with job my son was supposed to start-something with funding, or only being able to hire two people instead of three. Son was the third.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:03 AM (851iC)

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I wonder if 'nepotism' was involved in the 'foul up'?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, un lavoro facile at October 25, 2024 06:10 AM (i0xsb)

59 Meanwhile, the intelligence community maliciously leaking to the Wall Street Journal that Musk talks to Putin. CIA is asshoe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 06:10 AM (cGRqT)

60 Neighbor saves person from kidnapping:

https://tinyurl.com/yd6dp6xm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:11 AM (851iC)

61 Prayers up for Fen Son

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 06:12 AM (cGRqT)

62 Ciampino - i also had a birthday last sunday and sleep in 3-hour batches. Sigh

Posted by: SFGoth at October 25, 2024 06:13 AM (KAi1n)

63 Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, un lavoro facile at October 25, 2024 06:10 AM (i0xsb

Could be. It may also have to do with the fact that the job is at a university and my son didn't attend there. That or DEI I thought it was somewhat positive that instead of just saying "No can do; Sorry" the supervisor gave him some other options. I guess he must have liked my son.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:14 AM (CaqCk)

64 Jamie Raskin, sadly spared recently by cancer, is calling for a Special Counsel to investigate Jared Kushner, because its time to pile on some more Trump investigations.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 06:15 AM (cGRqT)

65 I wonder if anyone reads my Italian 'socks'? I enjoy doing it since I haven't written Italian for years and it sort of comes back to me this way.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, un lavoro facilissimo at October 25, 2024 06:15 AM (i0xsb)

66 NOOD JJ Open Thread

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 25, 2024 06:17 AM (/HDaX)

67 The military (Navy in this case) is leaking discharge records, hoping to damage Tim Sheehy's candidacy in Montana. Just more shitstain behavior.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 06:18 AM (YLSFg)

68 Thanks for the prayers, folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 06:19 AM (CaqCk)

69 I like Horde socks. We are more creative as socks.

Posted by: Jamaica at October 25, 2024 06:19 AM (IG7T0)

70
Wife: I don't understand cloning.
Husband: That makes two of us.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 06:20 AM (dg+HA)

71 I think serious jail time is necessary and in a pen. not a county jail. I would say 3 years if the State can prove he knew - no papers or didn't use the tools available to check status, etc.
What's that system available for that, I can't remember the name?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, si potrebbe annegarli at October 25, 2024

***
Make it jail time whether the hiring was done knowingly or unknowingly. They won't be able to plead ignorance -- and other companies will not take the risk of hiring someone who even *might* be an illegal. A directive will come down from the top: "If they cannot speak English and can't prove they are U.S. citizens, don't hire."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 06:27 AM (omVj0)

72 10 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
3h
A reminder that the LA Times is an uproar because the people who work there don't believe in reporting neutrality and actual journalism.

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 04:28 AM (VnUSN)

Wouldn't that be "reporting neutrally"?
Posted by: pedantic pookysgirl at October 25, 2024 04:59 AM (dtlDP)

I read "reporting neutrality" as "maintaining neutrality when engaged in reporting." But point taken!

Posted by: m at October 25, 2024 06:56 AM (VnUSN)

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