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You Mustn't Disagree

As the country (and the world more broadly) has shifted toward what are nowadays called "oligarchs" wielding significant power over official affairs, there are few renegade oligarchs. Those in that particular club know where their bread gets buttered, and are in the business of playing ball. Some - perhaps most - are true believers and most of the rest are pragmatic enough to go with the flow. There are fairly few "renegade oligarchs" on the scene, and none of them grab more headlines than Elon Musk.

The world's richest man, chief internet troll and leading hate object does buck the trend, and has gotten louder about it over the past year or so. This is, of course, unconscionable to most of the people in positions of power. The sniping at Musk from power centers has grown right along with his heterodoxy. What's somewhat interesting about all this isn't that it's happening, but that it's being done so transparently. What would, in the old days, have been couched and masked is now out in the open for all to see.

The most recent example is out of California. SpaceX does launches from Vandenberg, in California. It wants to do more. This is between SpaceX and the military. Vandenberg and SpaceX in this context - as a military installation and a defense contractor, respectively - are above California's law and regulation. This causes tension in the California state government, since its regulatory agency - the California Coastal Commission - can't arbitrarily dictate terms.

The Air Force (and now the Space Force) is fairly adept at mollifying California, agreeing to things like studying the effects of launches on nearby wildlife and trying to mitigate the effects of sonic booms in the area. The Air Force and Space Force make some kind of peace offering to California, and California's regulators pretend to be satisfied with the compromise. Then the show starts up again.

SpaceX is queering the deal. They want more launches, and California hates Elon Musk. All the usual stuff is here - wildlife and noise complaints, for example - but the crux of the problem is Elon Musk. California cannot abide Musk, and so the regulator has rejected the military's recent proposals, and couldn't help but tell the public that it's because of Musk:

Members of the California Coastal Commission commended Space Force and Air Force representatives for reaching an agreement, but some cited their concerns about Musk, the owner of SpaceX, before rejecting the plan.

Among the issues raised were Musk's decision to insert himself in the presidential race, his spreading of conspiracy theories, the labor record of his companies and derogatory comments he has made about the transgender community.

"We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," commission Chair Caryl Hart said.

Huh. I didn't know that was illegal or ran afoul of any regulations.

"This guy has the audacity to be politically active in the wrong way, and doesn't kowtow to our ideology. No deal." Excellent standard you have there, California. Great for your state and your economy. All around splendid stuff.

California is arguing that SpaceX's launches from Vandenberg are purely commercial (some of them anyway, since SpaceX uses some of them to put up more Starlink satellites) and that classifying it under military activity - and firewalling it away from California's regulators - is inappropriate and invalid. But the reason for the disagreement over SpaceX's classification as a defense contractor has nothing to do with SpaceX activities as such, and everything to do with Musk:

"This company is owned by the richest person in the world with direct control of what could be the most expansive communications system in the planet," Commissioner Mike Wilson said. "Just last week that person was talking about political retribution."

Wilson asked how could members of the commission be assured that equipment being launched would benefit U.S. interests if most of it was for the benefit of a private company.

"Elon Musk is hopping about the country, spewing and tweeting political falsehoods and attacking [the Federal Emergency Management Agency] while claiming his desire to help hurricane victims with free Starlink access to the internet," Commissioner Gretchen Newsom said.

That's not putting too fine a point on it. "The problem is Elon Musk, and the reason we're fighting harder this time is because of Elon Musk. The wildlife and noise are just fig leaves. Musk must be stopped."

There was a time when I would say, "well, this is an obvious First Amendment violation and it will never get any legs," but those days are in the past. It doesn't really matter that California is directly targeting Musk because of his political speech and heterodoxy. That's old hat nowadays. The only question really is whether Musk is more valuable to the defense complex than he is hated by the political complex.

It's now just normal for a major and powerful government to bluntly say, "we don't like the cut of your jib, so we're going to hamstring you." They're not even bothering to sugarcoat it anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 10:55 AM




Comments

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1 Musk is a patriot, and most impressive one, as he, like the founders, risks his fortune and his livelyhood to promote freedom.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 10:59 AM (pohLc)

2 Financial Times, 9 hours, ago, Elon Musk gives $75mn boost to Donald Trump’s presidential run
World’s richest man aims to sway outcome of November election with donation

He doesn't back down either.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 16, 2024 10:59 AM (NFX2v)

3 BTW, FIRST bitches!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 10:59 AM (pohLc)

4 I guess Joe has started that job thing, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

5 I guess Joe has started that job, thing, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

New precinct?

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

6 Otter status: Culled.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)

7 5 I guess Joe has started that job, thing, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

New precinct?
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

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*nods sagaciously*

Because he's definitely a cop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

8 It would be a real shame if the next classified billion $ payload failed to reach orbit and landed in Sacramento instead.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (tA1/w)

9 Things like this make me concerned elections are already just dancing around the bonfire. The un-elected authorities in this country wield too much power and are nearly unaccountable.

It's already how Trump's first presidency ran (nearly every branch of government slow-rolled or straight up lied and did not carry out orders). Why would the second be any different?

Posted by: Gaff at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (EqzMw)

10 The copium was gushing at record volume after the booster catch, that's for sure.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (/nctV)

11 "The problem is Elon Musk

We're to believe that the Deep State did not vet Elon Musk and voluntarily sold him their most powerful weapon for a paltry $45 billion? Ha!

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2024 11:02 AM (4XbCD)

12 SpaceX sued the CCC today, as promised, asking the court to issue a verdict barring the Coastal Commission from having any future involvement in Vandenburg launches. It will be interesting to see if the DOJ enters the case.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 16, 2024 11:02 AM (whk/K)

13 "...Wilson asked how could members of the commission be assured that equipment being launched would benefit U.S. interests if most of it was for the benefit of a private company."

Now, ask that same question about the press, or Big Tech.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 11:03 AM (NzKzT)

14 Musk will move all his operations out of California. Tis inevitable.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 11:03 AM (pohLc)

15 13 "...Wilson asked how could members of the commission be assured that equipment being launched would benefit U.S. interests if most of it was for the benefit of a private company."

Now, ask that same question about the press, or Big Tech.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 11:03 AM (NzKzT)

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Ending all involvement in protecting businesses through regulation, says he?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

16 Vandenberg and SpaceX in this context - as a military installation and a defense contractor, respectively - are above California's law and regulation.
________

Don't forget what happened the last time a state messed with a US military installation.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 16, 2024 11:04 AM (1bNHn)

17 Hope Musk has excellent security. The left has to stop him, like Trump, by any means necessary.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

18 California seems politically problematic.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, working on my Ph.D in Understatement at October 16, 2024 11:04 AM (PiwSw)

19 Mike Wilson sounds like a dope.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:05 AM (CIS44)

20 Musk will move all his operations out of California. Tis inevitable.

No they won't. There are no U-Hauls available since they're all already being used by Californians moving elsewhere.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:05 AM (xCA6C)

21 California seems politically problematic.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, working on my Ph.D in Understatement at October 16, 2024 11:04 AM (PiwSw)

And yet had more Trump voters in 2020 than Texas.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:06 AM (CIS44)

22 What I hate most about the New Civility ushered in by Obama was this; that you are not allowed to disagree.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 11:06 AM (rNE21)

23 SpaceX sues CCC article link at CNBC

https://shorturl.at/UU8NQ

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 16, 2024 11:06 AM (whk/K)

24 Musk will move all his operations out of California. Tis inevitable.

No they won't. There are no U-Hauls available since they're all already being used by Californians moving elsewhere.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:05 AM (xCA6C)

He'll just launch the shit from CA and catch it TX, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:06 AM (CIS44)

25 #2 addition:

DogeDesigner @cb_doge 9h
BREAKING: Elon Musk has donated ~$75 million to his America PAC. It was created to support key values like Secure Borders, Sensible Spending, Self-Protection and Safe Cities.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:07 AM (hovnC)

26 Thx Joe. Slightly off topic but more government bs. The FBI has updated their crime stats and instead of being 2+ % decrease it appears there is approximately 4+ % increase in crime. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 16, 2024 11:08 AM (YUtTn)

27 19 Mike Wilson sounds like a dope.

He wasn't one of the good Beach Boys.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 16, 2024 11:08 AM (WPL6O)

28 He'll just launch the shit from CA and catch it TX, barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 11:06 AM (CIS44)

Hopefully not Austin or Houston.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 11:08 AM (pohLc)

29 ...Commissioner Gretchen Newsom said.

I thought somebody was messing with us, but that's a real person, not a mash-up of two criminal governors.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2024 11:08 AM (4XbCD)

30 [WILLOWED:]

Isn't Musk helping with the GOTV? Thought I saw something posted here last week about that.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 16, 2024 10:48 AM (Dm8we)

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His PAC is offering something like $47 for every new registration in PA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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For the seven swing states. The link is in my nic.

He's trying to get 1 million people to sign a petition in support of the first and second amendments.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (iBnrP)

31 Commissioner Gretchen Newsom said.

I thought somebody was messing with us, but that's a real person, not a mash-up of two criminal governors.
Posted by: t-bird


Related to Gov. Hair Gel, I assume.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (v6JzV)

32 Elon needs to buy his own Island and tell these fucks to fuck off.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (c711F)

33 30 He's trying to get 1 million people to sign a petition in support of the first and second amendments.
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (iBnrP)

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It's 3rd amendment or bust, for me!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (GBKbO)

34 Oilfield Rando @Oilfield_Rando Oct 13
Your mom must be in charge at SpaceX now because she grabbed that big long black thing out of the air like it was nothing

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:10 AM (hovnC)

35 California: forest fires, power outages, AND queer bartenders acting like they care.

Posted by: 80's music fan at October 16, 2024 11:10 AM (QSrLX)

36 The Left is just cementing the reasons Musk took the red pill.

It's like the disgruntled employee who thinks he was unfairly harassed and fired that shoots up his former workplace. Uh dude you just proved and justified the employer's firing.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:11 AM (D6PGr)

37 The US is now a tyrannical state.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 11:11 AM (pohLc)

38 Humour:

Bry.ai @prince_of_fakes 6h
As a white guy for Harris, not only did I vote today, but I drove my wife's boyfriend to vote too. (he voted for Trump)

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:11 AM (hovnC)

39 ‘ California cannot abide Musk,’

I can’t abide California . I wonder what happens if enough other people feel that way.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 11:12 AM (jbnUc)

40 >>"Just last week that person was talking about political retribution."

One of the funnier trends these days is leftists whining about political retribution after they have spent the last 8 years using various arms of the government to go after their political opponents including trying to murder Trump.

You bet your ass I want retribution.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2024 11:12 AM (LkLld)

41 Also note that SpaceX and X are completely different companies, with completely different ownership structures, and yet the California Coastal Commission decided to punish SpaceX for what X is doing.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:12 AM (uxCna)

42 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
America has four existential threats and only one candidate who even has a plan to address them.

National Debt: Musk to help cut costs

World War 3: Trump would end Ukraine war

Food Supply is poison: RFK Jr. would fix

Open Border: Trump would end
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[My bold.]

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (hovnC)

43 Things like this make me concerned elections are already just dancing around the bonfire. The un-elected authorities in this country wield too much power and are nearly unaccountable.
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Consider this: Trump is the lightening rod that gives us the breathing room to fight back.
We have been, since 2008, unable to fight back in any meaningful way as they have so dominated all the levers, completely smothering any defense let alone attack.

But, their hold is oh so tenuous: They know it. That's the fear, the utter terror that is driving them right now.
A Trump win doesn't just spring a leak in their dam, it's a giant crack across the whole face.
And there's a hundred million tons of water pent up behind it ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (rNE21)

44 Is Gretchen Newsom related to Gavin? The incestuousness of modern-day power centers is out of control…. Like some moron mentioned yesterday that Martha Radish is married to someone in the deep state bureaucracy…. Sigh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (5F3OK)

45 Related to Gov. Hair Gel, I assume.

Could be, but I didn't find any quick connection between her husband, Kris Newsom, and Gavin.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (4XbCD)

46

The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
ABC News Argues 9/11 Overblown As It Was 'Only A Handful Of Buildings' https://buff.ly/3YqDrsK

Posted by: Don Black reminding you to close cover before striking at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (/7KEl)

47 DogeDesigner @cb_doge 9h
BREAKING: Elon Musk has donated ~$75 million to his America PAC. It was created to support key values like Secure Borders, Sensible Spending, Self-Protection and Safe Cities.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:07 AM (hovnC)

OMG! He must be stopped!

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (g8Ew8)

48 The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
ABC News Argues 9/11 Overblown As It Was 'Only A Handful Of Buildings' https://buff.ly/3YqDrsK
Posted by: Don Black reminding you to close cover before striking at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM


Ouch, baby...very ouch.

Posted by: Austin 'Danger' Powers at October 16, 2024 11:15 AM (ZANHd)

49 OT, but Stephen Hayward points out today that Wayne County (Detroit) is already breaking out the election fraud stick, and leads the state of Michigan with 40% of mail-in ballots already returned... errr.... "harvested". The second biggest is similarly a Demofascist machine county, Flint, at 39%.

https://shorturl.at/qQGRY

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 16, 2024 11:15 AM (JIqUq)

50 Very good Morning Rant, too.
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Off topic but business related -

>ABC27, Pennsylvania News
Corelle Brands laying off 270 people in closing Charleroi, Pennsylvania facility
by: George Stockburger
Posted: Oct 16, 2024 / 10:42 AM EDT
Updated: Oct 16, 2024 / 10:42 AM EDT

"In part, Workers rallied to save the factory and were joined by U.S. Senate candidate Dave McCormick outside the factory last month.

Corelle Brands manufactures brands including Instant, Pyrex, CorningWare, Snapware, Chicago Cutlery, and Corelle."

>Politics, Pennsylvania, The Philadelphia Inquirer, October 14, 2024, 'Immigrants were revitalizing tiny Charleroi. Then Donald Trump’s attacks brought white supremacists and conservative influencers.'
Trump's claims thrust the Western Pa. town into an unwanted national spotlight, exposing fault lines and ratcheting up tensions that show little sign of abating weeks later.

Balls to the wall in PA.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 16, 2024 11:16 AM (NFX2v)

51 24 He'll just launch the shit from CA and catch it TX, barely an inconvenience.

i saw sewage trebuchet open for flaming dogapult at the salt flats back in the naughties

Posted by: anachronda at October 16, 2024 11:16 AM (sGtp+)

52 The Bee is like Southpark. They swing a broadsword wrapped in comedy tissue paper.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 11:16 AM (pohLc)

53 California delenda est.

Posted by: Oldstoke at October 16, 2024 11:16 AM (lvKkc)

54 About political prosecutions:

"Don't worry - we're only going to do this to Trump."

"Well, and also to Elon."

"Well, and also to any other large donor to the Republican Party."

"Well, and also to any contributor to the Republican Party."

"Well, and also to anyone who opposes the Democratic Party in any way."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

55 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
America has four existential threats and only one candidate who even has a plan to address them.


Scott, these four are Kamala's "core values", which haven't changed.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2024 11:17 AM (4XbCD)

56 About political prosecutions:

"Don't worry - we're only going to do this to Trump."

"Well, and also to Elon."

"Well, and also to any other large donor to the Republican Party."

"Well, and also to any contributor to the Republican Party."

"Well, and also to anyone who opposes the Democratic Party in any way."


Obamunists: Oh, and the Clintonites.
Clintonites: Oh, and the Obamunists.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)

57 Is Gretchen Newsom related to Gavin? The incestuousness of modern-day power centers is out of control…. Like some moron mentioned yesterday that Martha Radish is married to someone in the deep state bureaucracy…. Sigh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:13 AM (5F3OK)
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i wondered about that and read up on her. From what I saw, they don't appear to be related, but the last name similarity rankles.

She is a "political director" for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers in San Diego, and was apparently appointed to the CCC as a patronage reward.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 16, 2024 11:18 AM (JIqUq)

58 >>Things like this make me concerned elections are already just dancing around the bonfire. The un-elected authorities in this country wield too much power and are nearly unaccountable.

That's where guys like Musk and RFK Jr come in. Trump claims Musk is going to take on the role of gutting the bloated agencies and RFK has been a longtime campaigner against the merger of things like Big Pharma and the various alphabet government health and food agencies.

We just have to win.


@ResisttheMS
·
3m
RFK JR calls the CDC, FDA and NIH SOCK PUPPETS and promises to clean up the public health agencies.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2024 11:18 AM (LkLld)

59 Mannix!

*Jazzy music plays*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)

60 BTW… Trump just owned that Brit interviewer in Chicago yesterday. Guy was annoying but Trump swatted him around and eventually destroyed him…. The guy brought up Musk and how bad it would be to put him in charge of deregulation. Trump would have none of that…. People like Trump and Musk have a way of attracting and surrounding themselves with uber competent people. That’s because they have confidence in themselves and don’t worry about being overshadowed

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:19 AM (5F3OK)

61 Canada and India Expel Each Others’ Diplomats over Sikh Assassination

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Sikh burn, dude.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

62 49 OT, but Stephen Hayward points out today that Wayne County (Detroit) is already breaking out the election fraud stick, and leads the state of Michigan with 40% of mail-in ballots already returned... errr.... "harvested". The second biggest is similarly a Demofascist machine county, Flint, at 39%.

https://shorturl.at/qQGRY
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 16, 2024 11:15 AM (JIqUq)

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If Trump wins, he still needs to pursue these sorts of things.

Sue Wayne County because the ballot totals and the actual ballots don't match. Sue them until courts decide that Wayne County's elections must be run by an outside entity and the officials who have been breaking laws are in jail.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)

63 Canada and India Expel Each Others’ Diplomats over Sikh Assassination

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Sikh burn, dude.


Stop casteing stones.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)

64 India to Canadian diplomats: "And take your poutine with you!"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)

65 Sue Wayne County because the ballot totals and the actual ballots don't match. Sue them until courts decide that Wayne County's elections must be run by an outside entity and the officials who have been breaking laws are in jail.


Our problems as a nation cannot be fixed without the imposition of electoral integrity. This should have been done long ago, but better late than never.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)

66 RNC Research @RNCResearch 15h
Biden is so far gone, he can't even insult President Trump without botching it: "She beat Trump so badly in the debate, he's scared to death to beat her again!"

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
Half of the political news these days is clips of Biden or Harris talking like morons.

Real Mac Report @RealMacReport 11h
Joe Biden: "She beat Trump so badly in the debate, he's scared to death to beat her again.”

https://tinyurl.com/cxmux5hb
8 seconds; Angry Joe: "That's a fact. Right? Tough guy. Tough guy."

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:21 AM (hovnC)

67 People like Trump and Musk have a way of attracting and surrounding themselves with uber competent people. That’s because they have confidence in themselves and don’t worry about being overshadowed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:19 AM (5F3OK)


Grade A people surround themselves with people smarter than themselves. The others surround themselves with people dumber than themselves -- I'm talking about all of you Dems.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 16, 2024 11:21 AM (AiZBA)

68 Our problems as a nation cannot be fixed without the imposition of electoral integrity. This should have been done long ago, but better late than never.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Ronna McDaniel lately? She seems to have dropped off the earth. Good.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

69 I hope Elon is using some of his personal fortune on a private security force of quality, those who appreciate a fine kill. Odds that someone tries to assassinate him are high.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

70 I hope that Elon has top notch personal security.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (17s+e)

71 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2024 11:23 AM (ZjfBh)

72 As for Musk and the Oligarchs...in an Oligarchy (which is what we really live under, not a Republic or a 'precious Democracy), the Oligarchs jockey for power all the time. You saw it in Athens and the Greek city states, you saw it in Russian before Tzar Putin came to power and....quieted them. And you saw it most clearly in Republican Rome as families jockeyed to be the 'First Man' in Rom.

So I'm glad when Musk acts in defense of liberty or freedom but I'm also not fooled into thinking he's not an Oligarch or he's a 'good' Oligarch. You judge people by their actions and I'm holding judgement for now on him. But I will say all the other Oligarchs are worse for us.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 11:23 AM (xcxpd)

73 "Elon Musk is hopping about the country, spewing and tweeting political falsehoods and attacking [the Federal Emergency Management Agency] while claiming his desire to help hurricane victims with free Starlink access to the internet," Commissioner Gretchen Newsom[/but] said.

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I don't even want to know.

It's incestuousness & crime families all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:23 AM (nHtOl)

74 That's where guys like Musk and RFK Jr come in. Trump claims Musk is going to take on the role of gutting the bloated agencies and RFK has been a longtime campaigner against the merger of things like Big Pharma and the various alphabet government health and food agencies.

@ResisttheMS
·
3m
RFK JR calls the CDC, FDA and NIH SOCK PUPPETS and promises to clean up the public health agencies.
Posted by: JackStraw

Why it's almost as if PDJT has built a true cross tribe coalition to fight the Menace. Harris has cornered the market of dancing f*gs though.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2024 11:23 AM (WXNFJ)

75 Each time you get control of a state you need to do the work DeSantis did in Broward and Dade counties. Find the levers of corruption, get rid of them, and clean out the voting rolls.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (GZYu7)

76 The goal of the Democratic Party - "Our Democracy" - is a political system similar to Russia.

The Russian electoral commission determines who is and who isn't allowed to form a political party - they allow the facade of multiparty democracy, without any real opposition.

The Russian electoral commission also determines who and who isn't allowed to run for office - Alexei Navalny was blocked, but a Saint Petersburg socialite who is rumored to be Putin's goddaughter was allowed to run.

If Harris takes power, we'll still pretend to have elections, but they will be meaningless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

77 It would be a real shame if the next classified billion $ payload failed to reach orbit and landed in Sacramento instead.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 16, 2024 11:01 AM (tA1/w)


Musk just needs to build a spaceport in Texas and deprive Cali of even more revenue.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

78 13 "...Wilson asked how could members of the commission be assured that equipment being launched would benefit U.S. interests if most of it was for the benefit of a private company."

Now, ask that same question about the press, or Big Tech.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 11:03 AM (NzKzT)
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Good point. How about Big Pharma? The covid vaxx was a useless, nay a dangerous and unvetted product. It was launched to make big money off governments (read people), ignoring it's deadly effects.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e mattina at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (qfLjt)

79 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.

Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (tlQD8)

80 40
‘ You bet your ass I want retribution.’

Amen, amen and amen.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

81 What a lovely day! Just got finished voting in person and filling out 1.8 million mail in ballots for my girl! Oh,, and for all y'all that were concerned when you saw me taking a quick nap outside yesterday, this song is for you!

LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXZMjGYnHzI

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (5hfjS)

82 The only question really is whether Musk is more valuable to the defense complex than he is hated by the political complex.

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He should have a private security detail if he doesn't already.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (nHtOl)

83 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (tlQD


Greenland?

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (AiZBA)

84 Canada and India Expel Each Others’ Diplomats over Sikh Assassination
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Sikh burn, dude.
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Justin turbanned.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:26 AM (hovnC)

85 So I'm glad when Musk acts in defense of liberty or freedom but I'm also not fooled into thinking he's not an Oligarch or he's a 'good' Oligarch. You judge people by their actions and I'm holding judgement for now on him. But I will say all the other Oligarchs are worse for us.

Oligarchs generally care only about personal wealth and/or power. To the extent he is an oligarch, it's been forced on him. Musk would rather the government just leave him alone and get out of the way. He's not motivated by becoming richer, he's motivated by making good things and advancing humanity.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:26 AM (xCA6C)

86 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 11:23 AM (

Which came first? The oligarchy pursuit or the capitalist success?

Does success automatically make you an oligarch?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:26 AM (D6PGr)

87 If Harris takes power, we'll still pretend to have elections, but they will be meaningless.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

At the Butler PA rally Musk did say that if Harris wins we won’t have (real) elections anymore

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:27 AM (PRg7w)

88 Which came first? The oligarchy pursuit or the capitalist success?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

I never use oligarchy. Butter only for this Moron.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2024 11:27 AM (WXNFJ)

89 Canada and India Expel Each Others’ Diplomats over Sikh Assassination
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Sikh burn, dude.
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Hindu nuthin', brother!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:27 AM (hovnC)

90 Thomas Massie@RepThomasMassie
In December of 2020, I caught CDC lying about Pfizer COVID vaccine trial data. I recorded phone conversations with CDC where they admitted I was right. My late wife Rhonda suggested I give the tapes to @SharylAttkisson. I did and Sharyl exposed CDC. Watch:

https://is.gd/1bbKah

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I'm gobsmacked!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:27 AM (L/fGl)

91 If Harris takes power, we'll still pretend to have elections, but they will be meaningless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

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Maybe they'll rename the USA to NNK (New North Korea).

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:29 AM (ZdOio)

92 Canada and India Expel Each Others’ Diplomats over Sikh Assassination


Ashoking development.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 11:29 AM (v6JzV)

93 That you don't see Musk's security is what I expect from Musk.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:29 AM (D6PGr)

94 Justin exclaims, "Mysore ass!" after diplomatic flub.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:30 AM (hovnC)

95 Congress won't allow cost cutting.

What they will allow is multi trillion deficits. Everyone knows this.

Use Musk elsewhere. He's extremely valuable.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 16, 2024 11:30 AM (70Qgm)

96 >>So I'm glad when Musk acts in defense of liberty or freedom but I'm also not fooled into thinking he's not an Oligarch or he's a 'good' Oligarch. You judge people by their actions and I'm holding judgement for now on him. But I will say all the other Oligarchs are worse for us.

Trump is an oligarch.

I've been saying since Musk bought Twitter he has probably done as much for free speech as anyone in decades. Maybe since the founders. The fact the left can no longer control our speech and create narratives on social media is almost incalculable in value. I doubt Trump would be winning this election if Musk hadn't made the purchase and changed the rules.

If Musk did nothing else he would be a hero. The fact that he is working and spending a considerable amount of money to help get Trump elected despite not agreeing with him on everything is just a bonus.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2024 11:31 AM (LkLld)

97 The Washington gubernatorial election in 2004 was definitely stolen - the Republican was ahead, but the Democratic political machine in King County (Seattle) kept "finding" votes in odd places until the Democrat won.

The national Republican Party should have screamed bloody murder about this - Republicans controlled the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, and there should have been national hearings and Department of Justice prosecutions of the people responsible for this.

Ah, but it was the Bush years, so we normalized the idea that Democrats could steal elections without any pushback.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:31 AM (uxCna)

98 Wealth =/= power

I guess that's a good thing, but Musk seems relatively powerless for being the richest man in the world. That's unexpected, to me anyway.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 16, 2024 11:31 AM (VGRuw)

99 49 OT, but Stephen Hayward points out today that Wayne County (Detroit) is already breaking out the election fraud stick, and leads the state of Michigan with 40% of mail-in ballots already returned... errr.... "harvested". The second biggest is similarly a Demofascist machine county, Flint, at 39%.

https://shorturl.at/qQGRY
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Little secret - Detroit can never fall below 600K citizens or its special share of the State tax haul gets axed down to everyone else's level in Michigan.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 16, 2024 11:32 AM (c711F)

100 Goodbye election integrity in Georgia. A Democrat political activist posing as a judge just ruled they can’t hand count and audit ballots. Also that clerks MUST certify ballot counts even if there is fraud. So basically the fraud gets counted in the tally and good luck challenging them in court to reverse those illegal votes.

The fix is now in. Only a few more states for Democrats to subvert.

Posted by: Vengeance at October 16, 2024 11:32 AM (DZ6nv)

101 Musk just needs to build a spaceport in Texas and deprive Cali of even more revenue.

You need Vandenburg to launch things into polar orbits.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:33 AM (uxCna)

102 the laest thing on the local Fox outlet news this morning, and on the radio version of FN, is that people are "spreading misinformation" when they say FEMA and other govt. entities are getting the way of helping people disrupted by the hurricanes.

"Spreading misinformation": means "We caught you deliberately not doing your jobs, and now you're whining about it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 16, 2024 11:34 AM (J2vNu)

103 100 Goodbye election integrity in Georgia. A Democrat political activist posing as a judge just ruled they can’t hand count and audit ballots. Also that clerks MUST certify ballot counts even if there is fraud. So basically the fraud gets counted in the tally and good luck challenging them in court to reverse those illegal votes.

The fix is now in. Only a few more states for Democrats to subvert.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 16, 2024 11:32 AM (DZ6nv)

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I doubt a Cobb County judge is going to be the final say on this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

104 Two things 99% of people here and across the country thought would never ever happen.

Roe v Wade overturned

Twitter becoming a free speech platform instead of a Leftist mouthpiece.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:34 AM (D6PGr)

105 Little secret - Detroit can never fall below 600K citizens or its special share of the State tax haul gets axed down to everyone else's level in Michigan.

I thought that the limit used to be a million people, but the Michigan legislature cut the limit, so Detroit would still qualify.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (uxCna)

106 33
It's 3rd amendment or bust, for me!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:09 AM (GBKbO)
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LOL
I watched a uTube vid of a sovcit at a traffic stop, the passenger plead the 3rd. twice. The cop even corrected him, 'You mean the 5th?', no, adamant. Then looked it up on his phone and read it out. I don't think he understood the billeting of troops, etc. and still insisted the 3rd. Got arrested for no i.d.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non v'e ricorso at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (qfLjt)

107 I guess that's a good thing, but Musk seems relatively powerless for being the richest man in the world. That's unexpected, to me anyway.

Musk may seem powerless, but he's not. He's really, really smart, and uses his wealth in new and unexpected ways, e.g. the Twitter purchase. That single act completely changed the media landscape and made it impossible for the dinosaur media to continue throttling the public conversation. Likewise, SpaceX has provided many benefits, but perhaps the most important is that it shows what creative, hardworking people can do, and thereby encourages others not to give up and accept their fate as voiceless proles.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)

108 The sewage called politicians in Kalifornia need to be disinfected and flushed out into the ocean. Would be a marketable improvement in Kalifornia and show Tijuana how to handle their effluent.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

109 Kamala tweeted a video of her buying some Marvin Gaye at a vinyl store to get down with the brothers.

The Feminist Misogynist@igarglewithfire
Replying to @KamalaHarris
Ma’am, you said your favorite living rapper was Tupac. No one is buying your bs

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Well, the only good rapper is a dead rapper so . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (L/fGl)

110 Ah, but it was the Bush years, so we normalized the idea that Democrats could steal elections without any pushback.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:31 AM (uxCna)


Yup.
And as a result the GOP will never win in Washington State again in our lifetimes...and very likely the lifetimes of our kids. The hell of it is the state is run by four counties out of 39.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2024 11:36 AM (W/lyH)

111 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024


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Is it that Vandenberg is located at a higher latitude from the ones in FL and TX? If so, one could build a launch base at that latitude elsewhere, outside CA.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 16, 2024 11:36 AM (J2vNu)

112 Which came first? The oligarchy pursuit or the capitalist success?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

I never use oligarchy. Butter only for this Moron.
Posted by: Tonypete


You have to try I Can't Believe It's Not Oligarchy!

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:36 AM (BkKar)

113 I think you could launch from Nevada to get the polar orbit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:36 AM (D6PGr)

114 The fix is now in. Only a few more states for Democrats to subvert.

I am absolutely terrified - this really is the end of the American Republic if Harris "wins".

It looks like Trump has a big electoral vote margin - but the D's are going to take unprecedented efforts to steal the election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:37 AM (uxCna)

115 The kids are alright...


T
@Mad_Dad2020
We went thru my kid's iPad. My wife is upset but "Latina twerk compilation" has me crying tears.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 16, 2024 11:38 AM (TGPs7)

116 Is it that Vandenberg is located at a higher latitude from the ones in FL and TX? If so, one could build a launch base at that latitude elsewhere, outside CA.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


It's lower than Dalhart or Amarillo.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:38 AM (BkKar)

117 I think you could launch from Nevada to get the polar orbit.

Can't launch over land.

We're not the Chinese, who could care less where the debris from their launches comes down.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:38 AM (uxCna)

118 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024

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Is it that Vandenberg is located at a higher latitude from the ones in FL and TX? If so, one could build a launch base at that latitude elsewhere, outside CA.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 16, 2024 11:36 AM (J2vNu)

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Greenland FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:38 AM (cnpI7)

119 Yo. Elon. Rods from God.

Do it.

DO. IT.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 16, 2024 11:38 AM (OUMaO)

120 The fix is now in. Only a few more states for Democrats to subvert.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 16, 2024 11:32 AM (DZ6nv)


For people who have the election in the bag, the Dems sure seem to be unhappy.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

121 Fox News now has a prebuttal and rebuttal every time Trump appears in a town hall? WTF if that?

I’m sure Brett Baer will allow that- right?

Posted by: Vengeance at October 16, 2024 11:39 AM (DZ6nv)

122 I guess that's a good thing, but Musk seems relatively powerless for being the richest man in the world. That's unexpected, to me anyway.
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Perhaps some truly talented and competent people have no interest in 'political' power. Just a thought. Maybe some competent and talented people have other interests. I think there was a small thread about Renaissance people this weekend.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2024 11:39 AM (RxnYx)

123 Musk may seem powerless, but he's not. He's really, really smart, and uses his wealth in new and unexpected ways, e.g. the Twitter purchase. That single act completely changed the media landscape and made it impossible for the dinosaur media to continue throttling the public conversation. Likewise, SpaceX has provided many benefits, but perhaps the most important is that it shows what creative, hardworking people can do, and thereby encourages others not to give up and accept their fate as voiceless proles.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
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I'm looking forward to Elon Musk doing a three-point landing at Trump's Inauguration while wearing a working Iron Man suit.

"America's Back, Baby!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (7fElN)

124 Elon Musk is the real Dr. Manhattan and he is going to get sick of us and our problems real quick if we keep pestering him with our petty low-IQ political crap.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (ogTiX)

125 You know who tapped Musk as a key person for the cause and advancement of humans at the time the Left embraced Musk?

Adam Carolla. I don't agree with all his libertarian thoughts but he is very good at observation and cause and effect.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (D6PGr)

126 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
#KamalaCaresForUS

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Does not compute! Does not compute!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (L/fGl)

127 Time to revisit: who goes nazi? 1941 article by Dorothy Parker.
There are already millions of Americans who believe it is not only justified, but are actively rooting for a successful attempt on the life of Trump. The end justifies the means. There are many in government who have labeled Trump as evil, and justified any .means to stop him. Remember the crooked fbi agents and there gummy justice department handler? And their text messages? Mark Halperin opined that if Trump wins there is going to be a massive mental health crisis. He's probably right. Many of our fellow countrymen have opted out of reality. It is a mass delusion. It's not going to be pretty. A blow out is the best thing that could happen. They would be forced to question the narrative and their sources and false premises.

Posted by: But with our luck it won't be a blowout at October 16, 2024 11:41 AM (Daas0)

128 Well, looks like I got my first text from the local GOP operation.

I'm registered unaffiliated.

This is my first general election in the state, but I did vote in the NC GOP primary earlier in the year.

Not bad, to be honest. Never heard from the SC GOP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (GBKbO)

129 113 ‘I think you could launch from Nevada to get the polar orbit.’

What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (jbnUc)

130 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 16h
🚨 In a historic turnout, approximately 252,000 ballots were cast in Georgia today, obliterating the previous record of 136,000 set in 2020. This unprecedented surge in voter participation reflects the rising political engagement across the state, as we approach the upcoming election with just 20 days remaining

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (hovnC)

131 "Spreading misinformation"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 16, 20

Speaking of that, asswipe Bret Baier is attempting to provide cover for Biden-Harris and FEMA by saying the heavy rains in the mountains post-Helene were completely unexpected. That's utter bullshit.

The NWS office in Greenville-Spartanburg, SC serves the Ashville, NC area. Here is the X-posting from that office about 30 hours before Helene made landfall in Florida:

“This has the potential to be an extremely rare event with catastrophic flash-flooding that hasn't been seen in the modern era, with major to record breaking flooding likely. Numerous landslides are expected in the mountains, with a few large, damaging landslides/slope failures.”

https://tinyurl.com/37rr3ayk

The local TV station serving the Asheville area amplified that NWS warning on their X account, as well, again before Helene made landfall:

https://tinyurl.com/46n6k3m2

And posted it on their website:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6dantj

So, eat a bowl of dicks, Baier (and anyone else who said there had been no advanced warning).


Posted by: one hour sober at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

132 I am absolutely terrified - this really is the end of the American Republic if Harris "wins".

It looks like Trump has a big electoral vote margin - but the D's are going to take unprecedented efforts to steal the election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:37 AM (uxCna)

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I said here after the 2020 Steal: now that they've stolen power, they will never relinquish it -- by any means necessary.

I share your terror ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (Lyve8)

133 126 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
#KamalaCaresForUS

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Does not compute! Does not compute!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (L/fGl)

======

"I would do nothing different from Joe Biden."

"This means a return to normal because current day America sucks!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (GBKbO)

134 LOL
I watched a uTube vid of a sovcit at a traffic stop, the passenger plead the 3rd. twice. The cop even corrected him, 'You mean the 5th?', no, adamant. Then looked it up on his phone and read it out. I don't think he understood the billeting of troops, etc. and still insisted the 3rd. Got arrested for no i.d.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non v'e ricorso at October 16, 2024 11:35 AM


That one was hilarious!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (ZANHd)

135 The fix is now in. Only a few more states for Democrats to subvert.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 16, 2024 11:32 AM (DZ6nv)

For people who have the election in the bag, the Dems sure seem to be unhappy.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)
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Democraps are perpetually unhappy. And paranoid. And bitter, resentful, mentally ill, perverted, worthless cocksuckering, and bestiality-curious. So I can't really tell if their current state of unhappiness is related at all to the election.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (iFTx/)

136 88 Which came first? The oligarchy pursuit or the capitalist success?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

I never use oligarchy. Butter only for this Moron.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2024 11:27 AM (WXNFJ)
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Yes, that oligarchy is all trans anyway. Bad for you.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non c'e ricorso at October 16, 2024 11:43 AM (qfLjt)

137 It's always racism: Via The Daily Mail - A partially redacted incident report provided to DailyMail.com reveals that Barmore was stopped for a traffic violation around 1am on Wednesday. Barmore, who is listed as the suspect, is accused of operating an unregistered vehicle, failing to display plates properly, and driving with an expired registration.


Christian Barmore
@chris_barmore
I just experienced for the first time 5 Providence cops being very unprofessional racism at it’s finest

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 16, 2024 11:43 AM (TGPs7)

138 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
#KamalaCaresForUS

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Does not compute! Does not compute!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (L/fGl)

======

"I would do nothing different from Joe Biden."

"This means a return to normal because current day America sucks!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
________

Real Men for Kamala!

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:43 AM (iFTx/)

139 The hell of it is the state is run by four counties out of 39.

In Oregon, it's just one county.

On almost all controversial issues or candidates, Portland's county votes one way, the rest of the state votes the other way, but Portland votes at North Korean levels for the Left, so they always win.

It has been years and years since an Oregon Democratic gubernatorial candidate got a majority of the votes in the state outside of Portland's county.

Doesn't matter though - all the Democrats still won.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:43 AM (uxCna)

140 Democraps are perpetually unhappy. And paranoid. And bitter, resentful, mentally ill, perverted, worthless cocksuckering, and bestiality-curious. So I can't really tell if their current state of unhappiness is related at all to the election.

The difference in their affect now and right after the "debate" is stark. They were giddy then, and now they sound like someone negotiating with the Grim Reaper. She's a catastrophe, and they know it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)

141 124 Elon Musk is the real Dr. Manhattan and he is going to get sick of us and our problems real quick if we keep pestering him with our petty low-IQ political crap.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (ogTiX)

Dr. Manhattan didn't bang as many hot chicks and/or impregnate them

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 11:44 AM (xcxpd)

142 115
‘My wife is upset but "Latina twerk compilation" has me crying tears.’

Congratulations, sir. Your son is straight.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 11:44 AM (jbnUc)

143 135 Democraps are perpetually unhappy. And paranoid. And bitter, resentful, mentally ill, perverted, worthless cocksuckering, and bestiality-curious. So I can't really tell if their current state of unhappiness is related at all to the election.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:42 AM (iFTx/)

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Early voting really does seem to be a giant shitshow for them right now.

Like, it's really bad. Like, the FL 2022 midterm results look like they could happen again in FL this year, essentially an R+19 environment in a world where FL was a tossup 8 years ago.

Where GA rurals are swamping Atlanta. Where WI rurals are swamping Madison. Where VA rurals are swamping Richmond and Arlington.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

144 LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXZMjGYnHzI
Posted by: Jimmy Carter

Congratulations, President Carter, are you still planning on representing USA in breakdancing at 2028 Olympics?

Posted by: Plains Speech at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (nS6qG)

145 12 SpaceX sued the CCC today, as promised, asking the court to issue a verdict barring the Coastal Commission from having any future involvement in Vandenburg launches. It will be interesting to see if the DOJ enters the case.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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DOJ is in the case. If they enter they are effecting the case. By not entering they are also effecting the case. It's not dissimilar to the not so Supreme Ct saying, no standing and how great their non participation was.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (vR8F3)

146 >>> "We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," commission Chair Caryl Hart said

If a Bill of Attainder was a violation of civil rights you'd think some Cali Nazi doing that would be too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (t+Tko)

147 129 113 ‘I think you could launch from Nevada to get the polar orbit.’

What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?


i think the primary problem is a trajectory that doesn't drop flaming debris on hapless villagers in the event of failure.

Posted by: anachronda at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (sGtp+)

148 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
#KamalaCaresForUS

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Does not compute! Does not compute!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM


What color...is...the sky....

Posted by: Yoda at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (ZANHd)

149 POLITICO@politico
Feds are sweating a Trump comeback

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Won't somebody think of the federal employees?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (L/fGl)

150 I believe it...


Shadow of Ezra
@ShadowofEzra
Kristin Cavallari has sparked controversy by claiming that celebrities are being cloned, and she believes Kanye “Ye” West was replaced by one.

According to Cavallari, the cabal and the Illuminati had Kanye cloned because he was exposing too many secrets in Hollywood.

She added that no one dares speak out about this because doing so could cost them their life.

Kristin also revealed that TikTok deleted her video discussing Kanye’s alleged clone.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (TGPs7)

151 149 POLITICO@politico
Feds are sweating a Trump comeback

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Won't somebody think of the federal employees?!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (L/fGl)

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I certainly hope Trump thinks of them a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

152 116 Is it that Vandenberg is located at a higher latitude from the ones in FL and TX? If so, one could build a launch base at that latitude elsewhere, outside CA.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

IIRC it's because they launch the polar orbits (N-S) from Vandenberg, and the E-W orbits from Kennedy.

(took the KSC tour once)

Posted by: Scott_T at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (w9Wax)

153 "We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," commission Chair Caryl Hart said

Now do Zuck, Bezos, and Dimon.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)

154 "We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," commission Chair Caryl Hart said

Now do Zuck, Bezos, and Dimon.


Oh, and Soros.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)

155
What was one of the questions? How is the govt going to help me pay for daycare??

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 16, 2024 11:46 AM (G+4sT)

156 >>>Like, it's really bad. Like, the FL 2022 midterm results look like they could happen again in FL this year, essentially an R+19 environment in a world where FL was a tossup 8 years ago.

Where GA rurals are swamping Atlanta. Where WI rurals are swamping Madison. Where VA rurals are swamping Richmond and Arlington.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense,
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Honest and legal elections matter.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:47 AM (vR8F3)

157 127
‘ Many of our fellow countrymen ’
Objection! Fact not in evidence.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 11:47 AM (jbnUc)

158 SpaceX should come to NE Ohio. We would welcome them with open arms and not object to the need for crowding back-to-back-to-back launches on each of the six clear days we have each year.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (ogTiX)

159 What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?

Outside of China (and to an extent Russia), countries don't launch over land, so you need water to the north or south of your launch site to put things into a polar orbit.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)

160 156 Honest and legal elections matter.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:47 AM (vR8F3)

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And there are signs that Youngkin's efforts in VA might have made elections as secured as FL's.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

161 96 >>So I'm glad when Musk acts in defense of liberty or freedom but I'm also not fooled into thinking he's not an Oligarch or he's a 'good' Oligarch. You judge people by their actions and I'm holding judgement for now on him. But I will say all the other Oligarchs are worse for us.

Trump is an oligarch.
...
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2024 11:31 AM (LkLld)

Ah, true; correction accepted

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (xcxpd)

162
Why are people dropping their infants off at daycare? What is wrong with these people? If you're that hard up, dont have kids.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (G+4sT)

163 The RCP cumulative betting odds have Trump up 16.4, but they've dropped PredictIt from those sites they track.

PredictIt always has much better Dem odds (currently has Trump up only 4). Not sure why they dropped them. Maybe because PredictIt has a lower betting cap and is more subject to manipulation?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (Dm8we)

164 159 What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?

Outside of China (and to an extent Russia), countries don't launch over land, so you need water to the north or south of your launch site to put things into a polar orbit.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)

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So, just south of Rhode Island would be good?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

165 Yo. Elon. Rods from God.

Do it.

DO. IT.
Posted by: Brother Tim


He doesn't have a hair on his ass if he doesn't do it.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (BkKar)

166 "Early voting really does seem to be a giant shitshow for them right now."

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Allegheny County, PA (Includes Pittsburgh):

In 2020, the VBM for Joe was 80.40% and only 19.6% for Trump.

2024 VMB: Kamel 67% Trump 41%

In 2020, Trump won the Election Day vote 58.57% to 41.43%

This is a total disaster for her.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (i7Q7S)

167 ‘My wife is upset but "Latina twerk compilation" has me crying tears.’

Congratulations, sir. Your son is straight.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Thank God it wasn't Latinx twerk compilation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl)

168 -
Won't somebody think of the federal employees?!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
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Read that as feral employees.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:49 AM (vR8F3)

169 Spell check would function much better if the fellow who programmed it had been trained in phonics.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:50 AM (vR8F3)

170 166 This is a total disaster for her.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (i7Q7S)

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Won't stop them from just making shit up, but it's going to be obvious...probably more obviouser than last time.

Le sigh...

I hate having to rely on courts for elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

171 Outside of China (and to an extent Russia), countries don't launch over land, so you need water to the north or south of your launch site to put things into a polar orbit.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


Outside of China & Russia. Who is left?

Tata Rockets out of India?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:50 AM (BkKar)

172 159 What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?

Outside of China (and to an extent Russia), countries don't launch over land, so you need water to the north or south of your launch site to put things into a polar orbit.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)

+++++

Lake Erie is north of Cleveland and totally would not burst into flames should something hot drop into it.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 11:51 AM (ogTiX)

173 It's 3rd amendment or bust, for me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Little understood Amd.
If expanded to new technology for government 'presence' it would be quite a thing.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 16, 2024 11:51 AM (t+Tko)

174 >>>Trump is an oligarch.

Whose actions have earned trust.

Way to go, CA, getting me on Space Daddy's side.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 11:51 AM (i24o9)

175 The fact the left can no longer control our speech and create narratives on social media is almost incalculable in value. I doubt Trump would be winning this election if Musk hadn't made the purchase and changed the rules.
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The x has had a major impact this time. Biden incompetency, Harris's incompetence, beclowning the media liars, waltz's baggage, harris plagiarism, the transgender crap, etc. Tuckers outlet. It's a still a bit of an open sewer, but provides a alternative way to get information. Musk is a bit crazy, but I suspect he views it as a viable platform for expansion. Especially if he keeps it as a free speech platform. It's a natural monopoly right now. And demand is nearly inelastic for it.

Posted by: Musk is no dummy at October 16, 2024 11:52 AM (Daas0)

176 @143 TJM from your lips to God's ears. Turnout is everything for Trump and the Republicans and if what you are saying is true that is a great sign for Republican turnout

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 16, 2024 11:52 AM (YUtTn)

177 Has anything changed from 2020? You tell me.

It wasn't long ago that Trump was completely ostracized. He wasn't even allowed to have a Twitter account. Now he's getting standing ovations from elite types. What an incredible comeback.
...
Standing ovation and huge applause for President Trump following his interview with Bloomberg at the Chicago Economic Club!

The crowd absolutely LOVED it!


https://tinyurl.com/2f8kvahe

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:52 AM (xCA6C)

178 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.


Return from where? You DO realize she's been partly in charge for the last four years, correct?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:53 AM (BkKar)

179 Ports are clearly under Federal authority via the constitution. That should include Space Ports. California has no role in regulating space or ocean ports. They should not be allowed to interfere in the operation or transport into and out of any port. It would clear up shipping issues that the communists in CA are causing, and avoid their interference in launches.

Posted by: jj at October 16, 2024 11:54 AM (1S5XE)

180 Not only that but, Barron Trump has tamed a giant sandworm.


The Bee

Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2024 11:55 AM (IDphi)

181 The Polymarket betting odds quickly tilted so heavily in Donald Trump's favor — bettors prefer him 60/40 over Kamala Harris this morning — that Nancy Pelosi just put in another order with Long Knives. She ordered two sets, one for doing in Harris and the second for Tim Walz...
Enter stage left, Gavin Newsom.

I'm kidding, of course. It's much too late (I think) to pull yet another presidential candidate switcheroo. But you'd better believe it's a notion Pelosi entertained last night while finishing off her first bottle of chardonnay.

Harris, you see, is flailing.


https://tinyurl.com/2vtprup8

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)

182 POLITICO@politico
Feds are sweating a Trump comeback

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Won't somebody think of the federal employees?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (L/fGl)

You misspelled "leeches."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (i24o9)

183 I understand the area of possible rocket debris but they did above ground nuclear tests in Nevada. Just saying.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (D6PGr)

184 176 @143 TJM from your lips to God's ears. Turnout is everything for Trump and the Republicans and if what you are saying is true that is a great sign for Republican turnout
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 16, 2024 11:52 AM (YUtTn)
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Trump will either win big by 10PM, or the steal will be so egregious that it will be impossible to hide.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (W/lyH)

185 Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore would like to share a few words with the California Coastal Commission.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (w9Wax)

186 164 159 What’s the geographical requirement for launching into a polar orbit?

Outside of China (and to an extent Russia), countries don't launch over land, so you need water to the north or south of your launch site to put things into a polar orbit.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)

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So, just south of Rhode Island would be good?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

How about Lexington, Massachusetts? It would be the Launch Heard Round the World!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (VNX3d)

187 to the need for crowding back-to-back-to-back launches on each of the six clear days we have each year.
Posted by: Oglebay

The second most important reason why I left.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM (WXNFJ)

188 I wouldn’t won’t a Tesla, but would jump on the first expedition to Mars. I might be old but I can still handle a backhoe.

Posted by: Eromero at October 16, 2024 11:57 AM (LHPAg)

189 178 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.


Return from where? You DO realize she's been partly in charge for the last four years, correct?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:53 AM (BkKar)


Mark was repeatedly dropped on his head as a baby. Bless his retarded heart.

Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2024 11:58 AM (IDphi)

190 egyppius (https://www.eugyppius.com) talks about Germany's elites, and their slipping clutch on power:

"A great many influential people nevertheless really, really want to outlaw the opposition and effectively disenfranchise 20% of the German electorate. Our journalistic luminaries in particular have become deeply radicalised over the past three years. They got everything they ever wanted in the form of our present Social Democrat- and Green-dominated government, only to have their political dream turn into an enormous steaming pile of shit [ . . . ]
"[We] were allowed democracy only within specific boundaries, to prevent the people from voting their way back into Nazism or into the Soviet bloc. That time is past. Fascism is gone and the Berlin wall came down when I was a child, but our rulers just won’t let the postwar era go away. It is always and forever 1933 or 1938 or 1952 or 1956 here in the best Germany of all time, where our rulers govern not to solve present problems, but to beat back the phantom past, and they are going to keep us mired in this dark and hopeless political timewarp until we are all ruined or they are cast out of power, or (more probably) both. "

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2024 11:58 AM (D7oie)

191 Skynet is here!

A Chinese aquarium opened an impressive whale shark exhibit. The whale shark was a robot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (L/fGl)

192 Musk is the richest man on earth. Know who is number 2? Larry Ellison. You never hear about him. He just kinda goes about his business, and fucks 25 year olds.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (vA12x)

193 178 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
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Is this Mark Hamill the skater faggot? He doesn't know normal.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (vR8F3)

194 Won't somebody think of the federal employees?!
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POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (hovnC)

195 How about Lexington, Massachusetts? It would be the Launch Heard Round the World!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 16, 2024 11:56 AM


Considering how commie Lexington has become, might as well make them useful in some way.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (ZANHd)

196 188 I wouldn’t won’t a Tesla, but would jump on the first expedition to Mars. I might be old but I can still handle a backhoe.
Posted by: Eromero at October 16, 2024 11:57 AM (LHPAg)

Yeah, in that scenario, I, a hater of EVs, might take the Tesla...who wants to sit in boredom for the trip and then get there for the absolute unmitigated and constant hardship...I'd rather burn my house down here b/c I can get a new one...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (exHjb)

197 60
People like Trump and Musk have a way of attracting and surrounding themselves with uber competent people. That’s because they have confidence in themselves and don’t worry about being overshadowed

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 11:19 AM (5F3OK)
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True of Musk, he obviously has a very clever bunch at SpaceX. Trump in his last go-round, not so much. His picks mostly sucked.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non c'e piu ricorso at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (qfLjt)

198 This is the Star Trek episode were Luke Skywalker went through a transporter malfunction and came out spouting deranged gibberish

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (YUtTn)

199
Elon Musk is hopping about the country

Peg leg Musk. Arghh

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (63Dwl)

200 POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”


For their first action, there will be a hiring freeze. Bank on it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (xCA6C)

201 Allegheny County, PA (Includes Pittsburgh):

In 2020, the VBM for Joe was 80.40% and only 19.6% for Trump.

2024 VMB: Kamel 67% Trump 41%

In 2020, Trump won the Election Day vote 58.57% to 41.43%

This is a total disaster for her.
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Philly Dems complaining she "doesn't understand" Philadelphia.

Translation: The walking around money envelopes are light.

LOL, shitshow.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (rNE21)

202 One stupid movie franchise and we get stuck having to hear the political idiocy of an otherwise D List actor.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (D6PGr)

203 Is this Mark Hamill the skater faggot? He doesn't know normal.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM


Whiny little bitch from Star Wars.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)

204 Musk has not cleaned out the stables at X yet, there are still lots of turds doing the old banning thing.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non c'e piu ricorsi at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (qfLjt)

205 201 Philly Dems complaining she "doesn't understand" Philadelphia.

Translation: The walking around money envelopes are light.

LOL, shitshow.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (rNE21)

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I saw a report that the Harris campaign is cancelling ad buys in Milwaukee and transferring the funds to last second ad buys in Philadelphia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

206 -------------
POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”
Posted by: andycanuck
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Experience the real world, bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (vR8F3)

207 Is Mark Hamill another leftwinger who has turned into an elderly lesbian?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 16, 2024 12:02 PM (FfSAJ)

208 For their first action, there will be a hiring freeze. Bank on it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (xCA6C)

You need a way to turn over the employees, nit just freeze their growth. Somehow, you need to bring on the college federalist society members and the Scott Preslers of the world while ridding yourself of the current regime...if you don't, you still have a 99.9% liberal fed all 4 years...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 16, 2024 12:02 PM (exHjb)

209 ‘My wife is upset but "Latina twerk compilation" has me crying tears.’
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That's horrible. Where? What website would put that on there?
What is the address of such a terrible site?
So I know to, uh, avoid it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (rNE21)

210 203 Is this Mark Hamill the skater faggot? He doesn't know normal.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM

Whiny little bitch from Star Wars.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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He's also past his 'sell by' date.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (vR8F3)

211 Return from where? You DO realize she's been partly in charge for the last four years, correct?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 11:53 AM (BkKar)

Joe and Kamaltoe haven't been in charge of anything these last four years. It's been the Kalorama cartel, Soros, and the deep state that's been running the WH.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (g8Ew8)

212 203 Is this Mark Hamill the skater faggot? He doesn't know normal.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM

Whiny little bitch from Star Wars.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (ZANHd)

He's embraced the Dark Side to try to remain relevant. It's failed.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (VNX3d)

213 Congratulations, President Carter, are you still planning on representing USA in breakdancing at 2028 Olympics?
Posted by: Plains Speech
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Oh yeah, can't wait!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (5hfjS)

214 The fedgov “workers” have nothing to fear. There’s an army of Hawaiian judges waiting to block everything Trump does. Especially anything to do with DC, those are all Hawaiian judges.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:04 PM (vA12x)

215 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (tlQD

Greenland?
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM (AiZBA)


for a while I have thought that Gorgonas Island off the Pacific coast of Colombia would be perfect, being near the equator, in the doldrums, and with its own moderately expansive but abandoned dock facility, but close enough to technologically advanced economic center to support it technologically.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2024 12:04 PM (D7oie)

216 Wallops Island, VA for polar orbits.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 16, 2024 12:04 PM (u82oZ)

217 He's embraced the Dark Side to try to remain relevant. It's failed.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM


He's definitely letting the Trump hate flow through him.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:04 PM (ZANHd)

218 My wife is upset but "Latina twerk compilation" has me crying tears.’

Congratulations, sir. Your son is straight.
==
She should calm her tits. Her chances of having grandchildren one day just shot up!

Posted by: Schwingggggg at October 16, 2024 12:05 PM (Daas0)

219 RealClearPolitics first noted a “stealth edit” made by Bureau officials in their crime data from 2022 through September 2023 where initial data showed violent crime falling by 2.1% during that period. On Wednesday, RCP reported that the FBI report now shows violent crime rose by 4.5% in that time span, vindicating President Trump and the families of murder victims who say a secure southern border may have saved their loved ones from tragic ends. In a press release last month, the FBI public relations team made no mention of the drastic change.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2024 12:05 PM (y+JHs)

220 He's definitely letting the Trump hate flow through him.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:04 PM (ZANHd)

That and green milk straight from the tap.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 12:05 PM (CIS44)

221 190
‘ really want to outlaw the opposition and effectively disenfranchise 20% of the German electorate.’

Yeah, Germany’s backlash against Merkel’s maladministration is going to be outlawed if the leftists there get their way.

Sounds vile and familiar simultaneously.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (jbnUc)

222 For their first action, there will be a hiring freeze. Bank on it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (xCA6C)

You need a way to turn over the employees, nit just freeze their growth. Somehow, you need to bring on the college federalist society members and the Scott Preslers of the world while ridding yourself of the current regime...if you don't, you still have a 99.9% liberal fed all 4 years...


Absolutely, but a hiring freeze is the easy way to start the process. Go for the low hanging fruit first, then move on to the harder stuff.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

223 "Musk would rather the government just leave him alone and get out of the way."

Good one. He is the king of subsidies.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Z8Yh2)

224 Mark Hamill@MarkHamill
IN THREE WEEKS: Elect her & return to normal.
#KamalaCaresForUS


I already have parents, Mark. I don't need a substitute.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (99eI0)

225 The Feds are preparing to be fired. I'm preparing for the Left to double their efforts to destroy the Country if Trump wins.

There will be a dozen George Floyds and the resulting burning cities.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (D6PGr)

226 Buy Greenland, shoot the moon.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:07 PM (vR8F3)

227 POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”
Posted by: andycanuck
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Experience the real world, bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:01 PM (vR8F3)

There isn't a more entitled set of whiny bitches as a group than government workers.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:07 PM (i24o9)

228 I shot the moon once in spades. It was awesome.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 16, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)

229 Yeah, Germany’s backlash against Merkel’s maladministration is going to be outlawed if the leftists there get their way.

Sounds vile and familiar simultaneously.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM


Well, the National Socialists got them last century. Looks like the International Socialists got them this century.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:07 PM (ZANHd)

230 Financial Times, 9 hours, ago, Elon Musk gives $75mn boost to Donald Trump’s presidential run
World’s richest man aims to sway outcome of November election with donation

He doesn't back down either.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 16, 2024 10:59 AM (NFX2v)

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That's peanuts compared to how much the other oligarch gave Kamala. But that's different just because they say so.

Isn't it funny how they keep carping on about their precious democracy when it's really just plain old oligarchy.

Posted by: Decaf at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (unUNN)

231 There isn't a more entitled set of whiny bitches as a group than government workers.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:07 PM


Hey!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (ZANHd)

232 Not only that but, Barron Trump has tamed a giant sandworm.
The Bee
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Is his thumper nicknamed "Kamala"??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (hovnC)

233 Good one. He is the king of subsidies.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Z8Yh2)

Oh no you di-unt!

*Spacedaddy fan club finger wag*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (i24o9)

234 "Musk would rather the government just leave him alone and get out of the way."

Good one. He is the king of subsidies.


He didn't make the system, he just has to operate within it. I'm quite sure that if the government said "okay, we're out of the EV business", he'd be all in favor.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (xCA6C)

235 Good one. He is the king of subsidies.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Z8Yh2)

That would be Midwest farmers.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (D6PGr)

236 Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”
Posted by: andycanuck /


can't you borrow from your fat pension fund until the lean times end facciabrutta?

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

237 "Musk would rather the government just leave him alone and get out of the way."

Good one. He is the king of subsidies.

He didn't make the system, he just has to operate within it. I'm quite sure that if the government said "okay, we're out of the EV business", he'd be all in favor.


Do you hate Trump for taking full advantage of the tax system he didn't write?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (xCA6C)

238 Hamill was definitely overshadowed by Ford and Fisher. He was the weakest of the three leads.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (NUv3n)

239 Hey!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (ZANHd)

Apologies to any morons in that group.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (i24o9)

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (xCA6C)

241 Turd world banana Republic here we come.
The commie left is going to keep pushing until there is a shootin revolution.
They won't like the result.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (36DLr)

242 Oh no you di-unt!

*Spacedaddy fan club finger wag*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM


Yes he did, Flounder! We all just read the comment!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (ZANHd)

243 Ha! Just in the nick of time.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)

244

Feed me.

Posted by: The Barrel at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (i24o9)

245 And in other news:

Ravens fan attacks Redskins fans (I refuse to call them anything other than Redskins.). Ravens fan is of course recorded on a cell phone, video goes viral.

So far, he's lost his job and the consequences are just beginning for him.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (99eI0)

246 69 I hope Elon is using some of his personal fortune on a private security force of quality, those who appreciate a fine kill. Odds that someone tries to assassinate him are high.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

The NY Times published an article about the millions that Musk pays for private security each year (about $3mm). They were trumpeting that as a terrible thing. Much lower in that attempted hit piece, they mentioned that Zuck spends ten times that amount each year for him and his family.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (c3Pks)

247 198 This is the Star Trek episode were Luke Skywalker went through a transporter malfunction and came out spouting deranged gibberish
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And acting like a fag, 'doing' his nails!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (hovnC)

248 Corelle Brands laying off 270 people in closing Charleroi, Pennsylvania facility

'Immigrants were revitalizing tiny Charleroi. Then Donald Trump’s attacks brought white supremacists and conservative influencers.'


So are we reading between the lines to learn that Corelle was employing a bunch of illegal foreigners, and decided to toss them all and close the factory rather than actually try to employ American citizens?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (hB7mE)

249 Has any reporter ever said to a Democrat candidate "Let me stop you right there?"

That seems to be the new goto phrase. Against Republicans anyway.

Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9)

250 This is who Kamala put in charge of her campaign in PA:

Nikki Lu is currently the Women’s Bureau chief of staff in the U.S. Department of Labor. She also worked as state director at SiX, a progressive governance nonprofit and as the Western Pennsylvania political director of SEIU Local 32BJ, which represents janitors, security guards, and food service workers.
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She totally gets inner city blacks and men ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (rNE21)

251 Hey!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:08 PM (ZANHd)

Apologies to any morons in that group.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM


Undermining leftism from within...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (ZANHd)

252 Little understood Amd.
If expanded to new technology for government 'presence' it would be quite a thing.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 16, 2024 11:51 AM (t+Tko)
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I've had a similar thought...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (7fElN)

253 The Beatles suck big time. And Lincoln is an overrated tyrant.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (D6PGr)

254 237 "Musk would rather the government just leave him alone and get out of the way."

Good one. He is the king of subsidies.

He didn't make the system, he just has to operate within it. I'm quite sure that if the government said "okay, we're out of the EV business", he'd be all in favor.

Do you hate Trump for taking full advantage of the tax system he didn't write?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:09 PM (xCA6C)

There are many, many companies that depend upon the government for their revenue. The defense contractor industry, for one, wouldn't exist without it. Is that a bad thing? What about healthcare?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:12 PM (c3Pks)

255 Vanderberg is the best for launching polar orbit (aka spy satellites), followed by Wallops Island, VA. Both launch sites fire the rockets to the south over water. Cape Canaveral is also used, but not as much for polar orbits. The FIL used to go collect things on the bottom of the Pacific off of Baja, when things didn't get into orbit launched from Vandy, during the Cold War era.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 16, 2024 12:12 PM (6PUpl)

256 215
‘ being near the equator, in the doldrums’

I wondered whether having minimal wind would be desirable. If so, any launch site near the North or South Pole would be worse in that regard.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 16, 2024 12:12 PM (jbnUc)

257 We did okay not raising corn when Trump was president but bidenomics forced us to diversify into not raising hogs just to survive.

Posted by: Midwestern Farmer at October 16, 2024 12:12 PM (7fVdQ)

258 This is who Kamala put in charge of her campaign in PA:

Nikki Lu is currently the Women’s Bureau chief of staff in the U.S. Department of Labor. She also worked as state director at SiX, a progressive governance nonprofit and as the Western Pennsylvania political director of SEIU Local 32BJ, which represents janitors, security guards, and food service workers.
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She totally gets inner city blacks and men ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM


Like calling to like from the look of it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:13 PM (ZANHd)

259 Vandenberg is mainly used for Polar orbits. Those are more difficult out of Florida and Texas due to geography.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at October 16, 2024 11:25 AM


Not just geography. If you launch into an equatorial orbit, then you want to launch near the equator because the rotation of the earth gives you a bit of a boost, but if you're in a polar orbit, the rotation of the earth actually works against you, so you want to launch farther from the equator. Orbital plane changes are very expensive, so you do them as little as possible.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 16, 2024 12:13 PM (2Insx)

260 Buy Greenland, shoot the moon.
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Let's have some fun.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2024 12:13 PM (RxnYx)

261 Congratulations, President Carter, are you still planning on representing USA in breakdancing at 2028 Olympics?
Posted by: Plains Speech
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Oh yeah, can't wait!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 16, 2024 12:03 PM (5hfjS)

I don’t think Jimmah can beat even that New Zealand retard who got laughed out of the Paris Olympics this summer for her breakdancing idiocy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (5MZNC)

262 124 Elon Musk is the real Dr. Manhattan and he is going to get sick of us and our problems real quick if we keep pestering him with our petty low-IQ political crap.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 11:40 AM (ogTiX)

At this point, I'd be fine with him exterminating every last one of us.

Posted by: XTC at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (UnA8+)

263 Downsizing corporate style. First freeze. Second incentives to retire early, third, make the jobs way way way less comfortable, fourth relocate offices, branches to force people to relocate or leave, finally start enforcing actual work rules, and actually punish miscreants.

Posted by: Schwingggggg at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (Daas0)

264 The Beatles suck big time. And Lincoln is an overrated tyrant.

Meh. I like the Beatles, but I will admit they do have some lousy songs ("Rocky Raccoon," anyone?).

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (Q0kLU)

265 Buy Greenland, shoot the moon.
=====

Let's have some fun.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2024 12:13 PM


"Nuke the moon"

- Frank J.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (ZANHd)

266 Undermining leftism from within...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:11 PM (ZANHd)

Government is a necessary evil. A VERY SMALL necessity.

Beyond that, all fat. And whiny, entitled, and mostly useless fat.

I know that's a broad brush, and again, apologies to morons that are grouped in with the leeches.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (i24o9)

267 There are many, many companies that depend upon the government for their revenue. The defense contractor industry, for one, wouldn't exist without it. Is that a bad thing? What about healthcare?

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. Just for the sake of argument, I'll assume disagreeing.

No, it's not a bad thing for defense contractors to exist. Defense is a legitimate governmental function, as specified in the Constitution, so if we want industry involved, which we do, they have to work with the government. The same is not true of health care.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

268 POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 16, 2024 11:59 AM (hovnC)


DAMN THEIR EYES! Haven't they read Krugman, don't they realize this is how to create a liquidity trap in a a devaluating economy?
They must spend, SPEND to prevent the collapse of the greatest economy ever seen by man.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2024 12:15 PM (D7oie)

269 Sure Elon took advantage of tax incentives for his company. Just like virtually every big company in the country does. The mortgage interest deduction was a giveaway to the building industry for decades. And is peanuts compared to what Elon got.

I say was because with the new bigly big standard deduction, most people don’t itemize anymore.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:16 PM (vA12x)

270 267 There are many, many companies that depend upon the government for their revenue. The defense contractor industry, for one, wouldn't exist without it. Is that a bad thing? What about healthcare?

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. Just for the sake of argument, I'll assume disagreeing.

No, it's not a bad thing for defense contractors to exist. Defense is a legitimate governmental function, as specified in the Constitution, so if we want industry involved, which we do, they have to work with the government. The same is not true of health care.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was definitely agreeing with you. Tech Sgt. Chen was wrong about this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:16 PM (c3Pks)

271 Musk is likely the closest thing we will get to ironman in the real world...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:17 PM (oZhjI)

272 227 POLITICO @politico Oct 15
Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”
Posted by: andycanuck
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I'm already voting for Trump, you don't have to sell me.

Posted by: WisRich at October 16, 2024 12:17 PM (G0vdT)

273 Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was definitely agreeing with you. Tech Sgt. Chen was wrong about this.

Agreed. Thanks.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:17 PM (xCA6C)

274 Why are people dropping their infants off at daycare? What is wrong with these people? If you're that hard up, dont have kids.
Posted by: Soothsayer


It's a bit late to say "don't have them" if they're already old enough to tolerate daycare.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 16, 2024 12:17 PM (hB7mE)

275 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (Q0kLU)

Just snarking on the Musk criticism.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (D6PGr)

276 Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”

The FNM: This is the best economy ever, we can't get enough workers

Also the FNM: Our civil servants are the most competent, talented, and skilled people in history

Also, also the FNM: If Trump fires government workers they'll never be able to work again

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (oZhjI)

277 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

278 "Nuke the moon"

- Frank J.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM (ZANHd)

I love nuked moons! — Arnold Schwarzenegger in Twins

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (5MZNC)

279 I know a couple of ultra leftists. She’s a teacher he’s a fedgov employee. My dream is that one day both of them them get fired due to fiscal conservatism making a comeback. They’ll be starving within a month as they have no skills other than getting a govt paycheck.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (vA12x)

280 Downsizing corporate style. First freeze. Second incentives to retire early, third, make the jobs way way way less comfortable, fourth relocate offices, branches to force people to relocate or leave, finally start enforcing actual work rules, and actually punish miscreants.

As an ex-Fed, I've seen all of those. Probably not at the same intensity as in the private sector, but it has been done.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (xCA6C)

281 I know that's a broad brush, and again, apologies to morons that are grouped in with the leeches.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:14 PM


No worries. Largely, you're right. I work for a small agency, but the MA government in general...wow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (ZANHd)

282 276 Federal employees are dusting off their resumes and delaying purchases as they fear losing their jobs if Trump wins in November: “We need all the savings we can get.”

The FNM: This is the best economy ever, we can't get enough workers

Also the FNM: Our civil servants are the most competent, talented, and skilled people in history

Also, also the FNM: If Trump fires government workers they'll never be able to work again
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (oZhjI)

Actually, I think that if a whole bunch of government workers were laid off it might be the best thing for both them and for government in the long-term.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (c3Pks)

283 277 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

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Eh. It's like Ayn Rand's defense of her taking social security.

It's there whether she takes it or not. Might as well take it.

It's not principled, but it's pragmatic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 16, 2024 12:19 PM (GBKbO)

284 277 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Where?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (xCA6C)

285 Musk is likely the closest thing we will get to ironman in the real world...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:17 PM (oZhjI)

Repeating my opinion but I think Musk is today's Howard Hughes without the OCD( to my knowledge ) .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (D6PGr)

286 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

But he's one of us, see?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (i24o9)

287 Buy Greenland, shoot the moon.
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Let's have some fun.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2024 12:13 PM

"Nuke the moon"

- Frank J.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


Did they say "shoot the moon"?

Whoops.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (BkKar)

288 It's a bit late to say "don't have them" if they're already old enough to tolerate daycare.
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Not under my administration! Post birth abortion's time has come!!!!

Posted by: KAMALA at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (Daas0)

289 So was Elon supposed to say oh no thank you I won’t take advantage of the subsidies and tax loopholes that everyone else is using?

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (vA12x)

290 Amazing isn't it? Musk's engineers are top drawer, doing things beyond NASA's capability, and likely as engineers rejected by NASA.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (pohLc)

291 Ewok's up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (ZANHd)

292 Nood. Inman.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (c3Pks)

293 277 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

Ooooh, we're doing "You're not Hardass enough for the Horde"!

Posted by: XTC at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (UnA8+)

294 Repeating my opinion but I think Musk is today's Howard Hughes without the OCD( to my knowledge ) .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth


Except for poon.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (BkKar)

295 Noodus ace

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (J2vNu)

296 Defending subsidies now. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 16, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

Not all subsidies are bad. I do disagree strongly with EV subsidies though which are no longer continuing as they once did.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (D6PGr)

297 238 Hamill was definitely overshadowed by Ford and Fisher. He was the weakest of the three leads.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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In old westerns he would have been the teen age side kick.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (vR8F3)

298 Amazing isn't it? Musk's engineers are top drawer, doing things beyond NASA's capability, and likely as engineers rejected by NASA.

Eh, more likely is that the Feds don't pay enough to attract the best and brightest. I know that will shock some here, but it's the truth.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (xCA6C)

299 Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Ronna McDaniel lately? She seems to have dropped off the earth. Good.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

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I'm still laughing about how they stiffed her even though she engineered Trump's defeat. She thought she had it made with the alphabets, she even got a facelift. She trusted the traitors and they threw her in the trash bin for her efforts. All's fair in love and war, isn't it Rona?

Posted by: Decaf at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (unUNN)

300 Side kick, has a modern ring to it.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (vR8F3)

301 So was Elon supposed to say oh no thank you I won’t take advantage of the subsidies and tax loopholes that everyone else is using?

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (vA12x)

Repeating, "Where?"

We're supposed to not shift in principle, merely because a guy seems to like us at the moment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (i24o9)

302 I hope Elon is using some of his personal fortune on a private security force of quality, those who appreciate a fine kill. Odds that someone tries to assassinate him are high.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

The NY Times published an article about the millions that Musk pays for private security each year (about $3mm). They were trumpeting that as a terrible thing. Much lower in that attempted hit piece, they mentioned that Zuck spends ten times that amount each year for him and his family.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2024 12:10 PM (c3Pks)
________

I would think $3mm is not nearly enough . . . .

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (iFTx/)

303 I guess he's bi.

NYC Mayor Eric Adams Torched For Wearing Hat With Both Mets And Yankees Logos

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (L/fGl)

304 Repeating my opinion but I think Musk is today's Howard Hughes without the OCD( to my knowledge ) .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth


Except for poon.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 16, 2024 12:21 PM (BkKar)

That's where they are very similar.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:23 PM (D6PGr)

305 It’s morally wrong to allow a fool to keep his money.

Elon applied this moral imperative to government subsidies.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 16, 2024 12:24 PM (7fVdQ)

306 Except for poon.
Posted by: rickb223
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Checks history books. hmmm

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:24 PM (vR8F3)

307 We're supposed to not shift in principle, merely because a guy seems to like us at the moment.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (i24o9)

Trump takes advantage of many tax laws and also supports farmer subsidies for political purposes.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (D6PGr)

308 As with that insane decision in Michigan to have Whitmer mock the Eucharist with a Dorito and an Oompa Loompa cosplayer, this is the kind of crap one does when they think they're untouchable.

Posted by: Octochicken at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (oCS0o)

309 137 It's always racism: Via The Daily Mail - A partially redacted incident report provided to DailyMail.com reveals that Barmore was stopped for a traffic violation around 1am on Wednesday. Barmore, who is listed as the suspect, is accused of operating an unregistered vehicle, failing to display plates properly, and driving with an expired registration.


Christian Barmore
@chris_barmore
I just experienced for the first time 5 Providence cops being very unprofessional racism at it’s finest

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 16, 2024 11:43 AM (TGPs7)
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No, you just read about the typical sovereign citizen - operating an unregistered vehicle, failing to display plates properly, and driving with an expired registration.
I'm wondering if he had a valid DL. Most of the sovcits I see on uTube either have expired/suspended DLs or have open arrest warrants hence their foray into sovcitland, ... wait, it's United States of America Republic - yeah that's what they call it. Supposedly not the same as the USA.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, stypido e una malatia at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (qfLjt)

310 Trump takes advantage of many tax laws and also supports farmer subsidies for political purposes.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (D6PGr)

And . . .

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:26 PM (i24o9)

311 307 We're supposed to not shift in principle, merely because a guy seems to like us at the moment.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:22 PM (i24o9)

Trump takes advantage of many tax laws and also supports farmer subsidies for political purposes.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (D6PGr)

And....that's a bad thing or a good thing?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 16, 2024 12:26 PM (xcxpd)

312 Don't fire them eliminate the position.
They come to the entry door and the sign out front says YaTang's Nail Parlor.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:26 PM (vR8F3)

313 We're supposed to not shift in principle, merely because a guy seems to like us at the moment.

And this is why we lose wars.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:27 PM (oZhjI)

314 And . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:26 PM (i24o9)

And the same level of criticism is not leveled at him

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:27 PM (D6PGr)

315 So was Elon supposed to say oh no thank you I won’t take advantage of the subsidies and tax loopholes that everyone else is using?

Posted by: Settled Science at October 16, 2024 12:20 PM (vA12x)

Repeating, "Where?"

We're supposed to not shift in principle, merely because a guy seems to like us at the moment.


Same question I asked before: do you hate Trump because he gets the best deal he can from a tax system he didn't write. I notice Chen hasn't answered. Maybe you'll do better.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:27 PM (xCA6C)

316 Don't fire them eliminate the position.
They come to the entry door and the sign out front says YaTang's Nail Parlor.


A couple of Dem presidents have argued now that as President they do not have to spend the money Congress allocates.

I'd like to see Trump take this to its logical conclusion...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:28 PM (oZhjI)

317 Trump takes advantage of many tax laws and also supports farmer subsidies for political purposes.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:25 PM (D6PGr)

And....that's a bad thing or a good thing?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,
---------------------------

A good thing is something that's a positive for the people and the nation a bad thing is something that doesn't work for the people and the nation.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024 12:28 PM (vR8F3)

318 And the same level of criticism is not leveled at him

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 16, 2024 12:27 PM (D6PGr)

By his actions, he has earned a level of support not due others. That does not excuse subsidy reliance and/or political patronage with subsidies.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:31 PM (i24o9)

319 Nood inman

Posted by: 18-1 at October 16, 2024 12:31 PM (oZhjI)

320 By his actions, he has earned a level of support not due others. That does not excuse subsidy reliance and/or political patronage with subsidies.

I see. His actions, as judged by you, allow him to continue to earn your support. How conveeeeenient.

BTW, the same can be said of Musk.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:33 PM (xCA6C)

321 Same question I asked before: do you hate Trump because he gets the best deal he can from a tax system he didn't write. I notice Chen hasn't answered. Maybe you'll do better.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:27 PM (xCA6C)

I don't hate Trump. I don't hate Musk. I don't trust Musk, and it is appropriate that he exists, largely due to government subsidies. Can the same be said of Trump? Depending on how thinly you want to stretch the analogy. But I do grant trust to Trump, merely based on his political actions, notwithstanding any monetary benefit he has received via the tax code.

Why do people feel the need to defend SpaceDaddy? I have my suspicions. Nobody seems to want to answer. Maybe you'll do better.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:35 PM (i24o9)

322 How conveeeeenient.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:33 PM (xCA6C)

And you wonder why people don't respond to you.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:37 PM (i24o9)

323 Why do people feel the need to defend SpaceDaddy? I have my suspicions. Nobody seems to want to answer. Maybe you'll do better.

That's where you go off the rails. I'm not defending him, I'm pointing out that he has no choice about the system in which he operates. As to why I admire him, perhaps it's because he's done more for technological progress than just about anyone in the last century. Your (unnamed) suspicions are irrelevant and silly.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)

324 How conveeeeenient.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:33 PM (xCA6C)

And you wonder why people don't respond to you.


You're new here, aren't you. Don't start fights you can't finish.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)

325 Your (unnamed) suspicions are irrelevant and silly.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 16, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)

As are your childish personal attacks. Go back under your bridge.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 16, 2024 12:38 PM (i24o9)

326 employees?!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 16, 2024 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
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Read that as feral employees.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2024

There's a difference?!?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 16, 2024 12:43 PM (kccAB)

327 True of Musk, he obviously has a very clever bunch at SpaceX. Trump in his last go-round, not so much. His picks mostly sucked.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, quando uno e stupido non c'e piu ricorso at October 16, 2024 12:00 PM (qfLjt)

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That's because he followed the GOPe's advice, he will not be doing that again.

Posted by: Decaf at October 16, 2024 12:44 PM (unUNN)

328 327>That's because he followed the GOPe's advice, he will not be doing that again.

You got that right!!!

Posted by: Say at October 16, 2024 12:53 PM (Uy/WF)

329 HERE'S MY IP ADDRESS!

213.87.129.8

Posted by: Ammina at October 16, 2024 12:57 PM (46E11)

330 In reading about the oligarchs (particularly the 'tech' ones), am reminded of a recent whatifalthist video, where he talks about the four modern religions, so to speak - link here: youtube.com/watch?v=EsYm8lbNx0I

In my own opinion, the world is divided between two forms of government - the republic (rule of law), and the junta (rule of power and influence). The stronger the legislative body compared to the executive, the more Republic-y a nation's government.

To stipulate out further, oil price is important because the cheaper oil is, the better for republics. the more expensive, the better for the ruling juntas.

Posted by: geewhiz at October 16, 2024 01:05 PM (65K9+)

331 "BMW Group CEO Oliver Zipse said during this year’s Paris Motor Show that the European Union must cancel the upcoming 2035 ban on vehicles that emit carbon dioxide," Inside EVs reported on Wednesday.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2024 01:25 PM (AypJH)

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