The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Drones are the Gotha bombers or V2s or Viet Cong or the IEDs of the 2020s. Modern, well-equipped armies are having a difficult time dealing with their threats, counter-measures must be improved (or invented), and doctrine must change, otherwise those modern armies will continue to fire $100,000 missiles at $1,000 drones...right up until they run out!

And imagine if the Chinese become more proficient at drones in warfare! Swarms of cheap long range drones sent against our multi-billion dollar carriers, which can certainly handle the threats, but not indefinitely.

The information-gathering capabilities should not be minimized either. The recent Hezbollah attack on an Israeli base is a good example...a drone supposedly loitered for 30 minutes before its operator chose a target. That's is an impossible situation for any army, and one that must change.

But Man's ingenuity is rarely more impressive than when he is fighting, and the people doing the most fighting are at least aware of the problem.

Rafael expects Iron Beam laser to be active in 2025

Even Boeing is in on it, and apparently the door didn't fall off the laser during the test, so...

Boeing's 5-kilowatt laser weapon takes down heavy drones in landmark CLWS test

This seems to be a high-tech answer to a low-tech threat, but if it works...who cares! There are obviously lots of hurdles to overcome, and I wonder whether energy weapons will ever become mobile enough for a squad to use them.

Regardless, the arms race has begun in this category, and who knows how it will shake out. My guess is that it will be a mix of technologies combined with good old fighting sense on the part of non-coms and junior officers.

But for now, drones are a real threat, and as their stealth and range increase, so will their ability to disrupt previously secure operations.

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]

Posted by: CBD at 10:55 AM

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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Inogame at October 15, 2024 10:55 AM (53oGX)

2 I nooded-ed...

Posted by: Inogame at October 15, 2024 10:56 AM (53oGX)

3 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at October 15, 2024 10:57 AM (nrUoI)

4 This reminds me of a young Val Kilmer, "Real Genius"

Posted by: Inogame at October 15, 2024 10:57 AM (53oGX)

5 New role for the M-113 APC armed with the 20mm Gatling gun.

Drone buster.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2024 10:58 AM (n+Ix3)

6 CNN Imbecile/Host Claims Trump’s ‘Abraham Accords’ Caused Hamas To Carry Out Oct. 7 Attack

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I blame the Battle of Wounded Knee!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 10:59 AM (L/fGl)

7 Three legal immigrants to America have won the 2024 Nobel Prize in economics, illustrating continued contributions by immigrants to the United States. The three immigrants—one from Turkey and two from the United Kingdom—are affiliated with U.S. universities.

Posted by: SMOD at October 15, 2024 10:59 AM (AypJH)

8 Drones are zipping by Langley VA at 100mph and no one knows anything about them, except that there are multiple drones zipping by Langley VA at 100mph.

Posted by: gourmand du jour is acclimated to Pacific time zone again... at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (MeG8a)

9 Or we could throw rocks at them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (kbyy+)

10 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones. If successful, it would give the PLAN a warfighting tool the US doesn't currently have.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (Q4IgG)

11 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 15, 2024 11:01 AM (vf0Uk)

12 8 Drones are zipping by Langley VA at 100mph and no one knows anything about them, except that there are multiple drones zipping by Langley VA at 100mph.
Posted by: gourmand du jour is acclimated to Pacific time zone again... at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (MeG8a)

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Escorts for a Chinese weather balloon maybe?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:01 AM (kbyy+)

13 Here are more examples of posters of classic films with modern actors, or modern films with classic actors:

https://tinyurl.com/5c22hkd2

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)

14 Everybody wants to have their own drone.

I want to have my own anti-drone capability. I don't want a drone, no use for one. Eventually they are going to cause big problems, not just at the macro level for the acft carriers or VIP.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 15, 2024 11:01 AM (/HR0+)

15 Security experts worried by 'UFO' swarm enigma over US Air Force base
Former senior-level Pentagon security official Christopher Mellon told DailyMail.com, 'it is clear they want to be seen as though taunting us'

dailymail.co.uk
https://tinyurl.com/y9mawkym

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:01 AM (hovnC)

16 I don't want a drone, no use for one.
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Aerial Recon in the neighbourhood if the SHTF. [No, I don't own one, myself.]

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (hovnC)

17 Nobel Prize for "Economics" is a pseudo-science quackery award.

Good Try, though. (You're Not Fooling Anyone)

Posted by: Common Tater at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (/HR0+)

18 Drones are self-aware. They go on suicide missions all the time now. I wonder what they're thinking the day before they know they'll die.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (g8Ew8)

19 But there's that military commercial on TV that shows they have target EMP capabilities that will stop a drone in it's tracks!

are they LYING to me? TODAY'S MILITARY? LYING?

No way......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (vf0Uk)

20 Boeing's 5-kilowatt laser weapon takes down heavy drones in landmark CLWS test

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Boeing? Better put some duct tape over the battery door just to be safe.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:03 AM (kbyy+)

21 Also a lot of "UFOs" are almost certainly drone tests by the US.

Just as in the 80s the media pumped up stealth experiments as aliens they are doing the same thing now with drones...

Posted by: Sir Mix A Lot at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (oZhjI)

22 OK, I'll buy aerial recon is nice.

What I'm getting at, once drones become cheap enough - weaponized drones - things can get sporty from Suburbia to the John Galt redoubt.

See where I'm goin' with that? If you're not thinking about effective countermeasures to drones, you're not paying attention.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (/HR0+)

23 18 Drones are self-aware. They go on suicide missions all the time now. I wonder what they're thinking the day before they know they'll die.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (g8Ew

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Their lives are at the disposal of the Emperor, who in their case is a Roomba.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (kbyy+)

24 5 New role for the M-113 APC armed with the 20mm Gatling gun.
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Skinks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skink_anti-aircraft_tank

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (hovnC)

25 Posted by: SMOD at October 15, 2024 10:59 AM (AypJH)

Thread-jacking again?

It's rude.

I take my writing at AoSHQ seriously. If you don't, the least you can do is wait a few minutes before you comment with other topics.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...post-modernist at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (d9fT1)

26 CBD thx. All defenses can eventually be overwhelmed by numbers. Drones are just the latest version of asymmetric weapons as noted above. To make it a tactical and strategic weapon you need a lot of control of drone swarms. If this can be properly developed the battlefield would leap into the sci Fi military we've read about for years

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (vS8VI)

27 I'm really surprised that Boeing's laser is only 5 kW. They've been developing much larger (hundreds of kW) systems. I suppose a drone is far easier to kill than a plane, missile, or artillery shell.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (xCA6C)

28 CNN Imbecile/Host Claims Trump’s ‘Abraham Accords’ Caused Hamas To Carry Out Oct. 7 Attack

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I guess you missed the part in their book where it tells them to kill Jews wherever they find them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (vf0Uk)

29 Even Boeing is in on it, and apparently the door didn't fall off the laser during the test, so...

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It's a joke!

I like jokes...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

30 China Holds Major Drills Around Taiwan as ‘Warning’ to President Lai

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I thought our president was President Lie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (L/fGl)

31 Right now, the Dem regime is the real threat:

https://tinyurl.com/2hr435h8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (zp5vg)

32 "When do they roll out Iron Cock?"

-- Pete Bootyjuice

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:06 AM (iFTx/)

33 6 CNN Imbecile/Host Claims Trump’s ‘Abraham Accords’ Caused Hamas To Carry Out Oct. 7 Attack

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Don't forget Hurricane Milton.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:07 AM (kbyy+)

34 I, myself, have been described as an inane drone. That's good, right?

Posted by: Kumala at October 15, 2024 11:07 AM (nS6qG)

35 10 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones.

lemme guess: it looks like a big weather balloon

Posted by: anachronda at October 15, 2024 11:07 AM (sGtp+)

36 Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal, founder and senior pastor of Koinonia Christian Center Church in Greenville, North Carolina, moments before she encouraged congregants at the megachurch to not grow weary in well-doing from Galatians 6.

… the IRS would be all over this church if this had been a Republican

Posted by: SMOD at October 15, 2024 11:07 AM (AypJH)

37 I'm really surprised that Boeing's laser is only 5 kW.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:05 AM (xCA6C)

I think that is the direction they have to take. These things may be mounted on tanks and APCs, and hell, maybe even carried by infantry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...post-modernist at October 15, 2024 11:07 AM (d9fT1)

38 I thought my role is to mate with the maiden queen in nuptial flight?

Posted by: A Drone, sans stinger at October 15, 2024 11:08 AM (w9Wax)

39 18 Drones are self-aware. They go on suicide missions all the time now. I wonder what they're thinking the day before they know they'll die.

i'm pretty sure the well-known documentary "dark star" gives us a good insight into the thought process of a drone.

Posted by: anachronda at October 15, 2024 11:08 AM (sGtp+)

40 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 4h
NEW - North Korea warns Seoul will pay 'a dear price' for drone incursions
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s powerful sister warned Tuesday that the country had “clear evidence” Seoul’s military was behind recent drone incursions over Pyongyang, and warned of reprisals.

“We secured clear evidence that (South Korea) military gangsters are the main culprit,” the North’s key spokeswoman Kim Yo Jong said, adding “the provocateurs will have to pay a dear price.”

"Hans Blix werr arso pay!"

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:08 AM (hovnC)

41 CBD thx. All defenses can eventually be overwhelmed by numbers. Drones are just the latest version of asymmetric weapons as noted above. To make it a tactical and strategic weapon you need a lot of control of drone swarms. If this can be properly developed the battlefield would leap into the sci Fi military we've read about for years
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 11:04 AM (vS8VI)

Go to YouTube and watch Chicom drone displays. Controlling drone swarms has become everyday tech to them.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:09 AM (g8Ew8)

42 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones. If successful, it would give the PLAN a warfighting tool the US doesn't currently have.

Why would you use a surface ship (assuming that's what you mean)? I'd put put thousands of drones on a high-capacity airplane. If we stuffed a C-5 Galaxy with them, we'd probably have tens of thousands.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:09 AM (xCA6C)

43 Drones are self-aware. They go on suicide missions all the time now. I wonder what they're thinking the day before they know they'll die.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:02 AM (g8Ew

"Kill all humans."

Skynet smiles.

Posted by: Robert at October 15, 2024 11:09 AM (YxqCv)

44 10 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones.

You don't say.

Posted by: Some Protoss Admiral at October 15, 2024 11:09 AM (oZhjI)

45 Check out the loitering munitions section of the AeroVironment website. Ukraine has been burning through these at $10k a pop.

The US does drones pretty well, we just found a way to make them expensive and very profitable of the defense industry.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2024 11:10 AM (kwCuz)

46 Go to YouTube and watch Chicom drone displays. Controlling drone swarms has become everyday tech to them.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:09 AM (g8Ew

Yup. That tech isn't to replace fireworks displays!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...post-modernist at October 15, 2024 11:10 AM (d9fT1)

47 I'm surprised the Houthis are using missiles and not drones to disrupt the trade routes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (s9EYN)

48 But for now, drones are a real threat,

Especially when they go to the polls.

Posted by: DaveA at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (FhXTo)

49 Willowed:

Dolph Lundgren has a master's degree in chemical engineering, received scholarships from universities around the world (including a Fulbright Scholarship from MIT when that was a big fkn deal), and speaks seven languages. And all this while studying martial arts and working nights as a bouncer.

Dude is smart af.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

50 >>But for now, drones are a real threat, and as their stealth and range increase, so will their ability to disrupt previously secure operations.

Wasn't Iran or one of its proxies using drones to attack Saudi oil fields and/or other infrastructure?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (scDBq)

51 Ok , who had an India - Canada war on your 2024 bingo card? Let's see Blinken , Sullivan and Austin can screw up US response to this weirdness. Given Trudeau is involved I anticipate the Indians will end up nuking Vancouver

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (vS8VI)

52 New technologies always counter existing technologies and strategies.

Generally someone loses a war badly and then figures out how to deal with such things.

Doesn't bode well for a declining empire.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (N1DT3)

53 The US does drones pretty well, we just found a way to make them expensive and very profitable of the defense industry.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2024 11:10 AM (kwCuz)

Excellent point. We are masters at taking simple, light, and effective and making it complex, heavy, and ineffective.

LCS anyone? Maybe with a side of Osprey?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...post-modernist at October 15, 2024 11:12 AM (d9fT1)

54 >>September 14, 2019
Share
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Yemen’s Houthi rebels launched drone attacks on the world’s largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia and a major oil field Saturday, sparking huge fires and halting about half of the supplies from the world’s largest exporter of oil.

The attacks were the latest of many drone assaults on the kingdom’s oil infrastructure in recent weeks, but easily the most damaging. They raise concerns about the global oil supply and likely will further increase tensions across the Persian Gulf amid an escalating crisis between the U.S. and Iran over its unraveling nuclear deal with world powers.

The attacks resulted in “the temporary suspension of production operations” at the Abqaiq oil processing facility and the Khurais oil field, Energy Minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman said in a statement carried by the state-run Saudi Press Agency. The fires “were controlled,” the statement said, and no workers were injured. . .

Now imagine them being used to start forest fires

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:12 AM (scDBq)

55 Last night at Trump Rally when we were leaving a duel green light was hovering above the building, watched as we walked around the building to the car. It hovered in spot the whole time.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2024 11:12 AM (0Sv+K)

56 Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal...

And the Lord spake and said, "Lo, blessed are the women, particularly the women with darker skin. If those women are tireless in ensuring the murder of countless children before they are born... even better. Also, migrants only inconvenience others so, it's all good." -- Bishop Rosie O'Neal (probably)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:13 AM (IUd0M)

57 Or we could throw rocks at them.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (kbyy+)

He got closer... and closer...

Then what did you do?

I THREW A ROCK AT HIM!..
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...it was a big rock...

Posted by: Killer Croc at October 15, 2024 11:13 AM (N1DT3)

58 Busy drone day:

Lebanon’s Hezbollah says downed Israeli drone
AFP; October 15, 2024 6:01 am
Lebanon’s Hezbollah said it downed an Israeli drone on Tuesday, without saying where, as the Iran-backed group battles Israeli troops near the border and as Israel bombs south and east Lebanon.

Hezbollah fighters from the group’s “air defence units… downed an Israeli Hermes 450 drone” just after midnight, the armed movement said in a statement.
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Myanmar junta says downed 13 'terrorist' drones over capital Source: Pixabay

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:13 AM (hovnC)

59 IIRC, most, if not all, of the drones US police forces have purchased are Chinese. One can imagine these have been infected with spyware?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:13 AM (scDBq)

60 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Yemen’s Houthi rebels launched drone attacks on the world’s largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia and a major oil field Saturday, sparking huge fires and halting about half of the supplies from the world’s largest exporter of oil.

The Ukes have a new drone that drops a stream of thermite on trenches and other fortifications. Imagine doing something like that to a refinery. Explosions aren't needed.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

61 Of the 2 tasks :
1) detection
2) destruction

It seems that 1 is the tougher of the 2 but also the more necessary.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (jbnUc)

62 I'm surprised the Houthis are using missiles and not drones to disrupt the trade routes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (s9EYN)

Probably cheap, obsolete missiles, because most commercial vessels don't have any countermeasures.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (d9fT1)

63 One of the craziest anti-drone tactics that has been tried is the use of birds of prey to take them out. Falconer might be a new army job in the future.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (kwCuz)

64 >>Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal...

Is she a practicing Christian?
Has she ever said anything remotely indicative of an active faith?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (scDBq)

65 Drones are zipping by Langley VA at 100mph and no one knows anything about them, except that there are multiple drones zipping by Langley VA at 100mph.
Posted by: gourmand du jour is acclimated to Pacific time zone again... at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (MeG8a)

My guess is langley's responsible for them.

Honestly I'm fairly certain that the people at Langley are working against the interest of the people of the United States. Sadly, though, the enemy of my enemy isn't my friend in this case.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (N1DT3)

66 Now imagine them being used to start forest fires

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:12 AM (scDBq)

Hezbollah and Hamas do that now.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (d9fT1)

67 Shotguns and lasers

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (xcxpd)

68 Go long on I.R. wavelength (dyes and reflectivity) Camo Netting futures.

And the 10 ga., 30 in. barrel "Turkey Gun" is poised to make a comeback, too.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (kQgoX)

69 Not much mention of the drone swarms over Langley AFB that we couldn't do anything about.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (t8vHj)

70 >>The Ukes have a new drone that drops a stream of thermite on trenches and other fortifications. Imagine doing something like that to a refinery. Explosions aren't needed.

Horrifying to consider. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:15 AM (scDBq)

71 Ok, who had an India - Canada war on your 2024 bingo card? Let's see Blinken, Sullivan and Austin can screw up US response to this weirdness. Given Trudeau is involved I anticipate the Indians will end up nuking Vancouver.
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Curry Indians not Woowoo Indians, I'd point out.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (hovnC)

72 I'm surprised the Houthis are using missiles and not drones to disrupt the trade routes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

I'm surprised no one has permanently ended them as pirates.

Morning all. Late start.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (tFPL6)

73 What's the India-Canada thing about?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (v6JzV)

74 Are there any bad things Trump is not responsible for?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (FfSAJ)

75 The Blowjob Queen is now offering $20k large "forgiveable loans" to try and buy votes.

H.L. Mencken observed 100 years ago that "Elections are a kind of advance auction of stolen goods". I think this is a textbook example. My how the once vaunted US has fallen.

I hope somebody follows up on the percentage of "forgiveable" (wink wink) loans are ever repaid.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (/HR0+)

76 I'm surprised no one has permanently ended them as pirates.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (tFPL6)

That would be mean!

Posted by: The Joint Chiefs at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (d9fT1)

77 Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal...

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Hail Marx full of free shit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)

78 And the 10 ga., 30 in. barrel "Turkey Gun" is poised to make a comeback, too.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

With netting loaded shotgun shells.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (tFPL6)

79 Lebanon’s Hezbollah said it downed an Israeli drone on Tuesday, without saying where, as the Iran-backed group battles Israeli troops near the border and as Israel bombs south and east Lebanon.

The drone was in Canada. It goes to a different school. You wouldn't know it. -- Hezbollah

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (IUd0M)

80 Because we see so many of the smaller drones in Ukraine, it can be easy to forget the much larger systems that are also available. We have a new one named Rapid Dragon. It's a palletized load of cruise missiles that's dropped out the back of a C-130, whereupon many missiles are deployed.

https://afresearchlab.com/technology/rapid-dragon

Another really interesting development is a drone swarm that accompanies a manned airplane; the Loyal Wingman program.

https://www.boeing.com/defense/mq28

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C)

81 20,000 acres in Northern Israel have been set on fire by Hezbollah drone and missile attacks.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 15, 2024 11:17 AM (t8vHj)

82 >>Hezbollah and Hamas do that now.

Right, of course, I was thinking in the US.
Saw a video on X last night where there was some Palestinian conference last May where they all openly admitted an active war on the US. They refer to us as "empire" but it was otherwise direct, clear declaration of a goal to destroy us from within our borders. That's gotten me focused on how they are waging war here.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:18 AM (scDBq)

83 > Why would you use a surface ship (assuming that's what you mean)? I'd put put thousands of drones on a high-capacity airplane. If we stuffed a C-5 Galaxy with them, we'd probably have tens of thousands.
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These drones are pretty large.... too big to be launched from aircraft. Some are about the same size as a F-35. Others smaller, others larger.

The RQ-4 "Global Hawk" recon drone is about the size of a large Learjet.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2024 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)

84 See where I'm goin' with that? If you're not thinking about effective countermeasures to drones, you're not paying attention.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Shotguns and trap shooting are a good and legal hardware/software (training) solution for a Mad Max civilian situation. Even if the thing manages to keep flying--without damaged optics from even a light birdshot/trap load, it is functionally useless.

Laser pointers can be used to blind the sensors as well for citizen grade and some cheaper military grade type drones.

Camoflauge and or tall netting also makes it more difficult for the smaller drones to get close and personal like lowtech delivery of hand grenades, small explosive charges, etc.

Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape from Seres school of thought can be used a mental heuristic for the drone problem.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:18 AM (bt/Nj)

85 "Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal..."

I've spotted the problem.
Heresy intensifies

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xcxpd)

86 Are there any bad things Trump is not responsible for?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is

No. Monica Lewinski was a Trump agent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

87 85 "Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal..."

They didn't say what God...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:19 AM (IyPmt)

88 Why would you use a surface ship (assuming that's what you mean)? I'd put put thousands of drones on a high-capacity airplane. If we stuffed a C-5 Galaxy with them, we'd probably have tens of thousands.
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These drones are pretty large.... too big to be launched from aircraft. Some are about the same size as a F-35. Others smaller, others larger.

The RQ-4 "Global Hawk" recon drone is about the size of a large Learjet.

Ah. See my #80.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)

89 87 85 "Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal..."

They didn't say what God...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:19 AM (IyPmt)

*Bets $5 that they really mean Baal*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (xcxpd)

90 Another really interesting development is a drone swarm that accompanies a manned airplane; the Loyal Wingman program.

I swear, you go to track down an instructor one time and they go and name a drone system after you. -- Maverick

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (IUd0M)

91 Good Rant, on point. Thanks.

>Council on Foreign Relations, from Politics, Power, and Preventive Action and Center for Preventive Action -
'Obama’s Final Drone Strike Data' by Micah Zenko, January 20, 2017

Combined with the 'feminization' of the military; vigorous mining (North Carolina, Bosnia, the African continent and so on) of minerals and metals needed and used in chips, weapons, drones, and much more - all the while hyping Climate Change to cover reparations and weak employment programs - yeah, drones are the way. And other robotics, too.

In as far as "good old fighting sense on the part of non-coms and junior officers," from your lips to God's ears. May there still be enough to be involved & make the difference in whatever may come.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (NFX2v)

92 >> Ok, who had an India - Canada war on your 2024 bingo card? Let's see Blinken, Sullivan and Austin can screw up US response to this weirdness. Given Trudeau is involved I anticipate the Indians will end up nuking Vancouver.

WTF??
Recently read that Indian immigrants in Canada are crossing into America at our northern border for better job prospects.

Trudeau cannot invent enough ways to f$#@ up his country, EH?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (scDBq)

93 Dude is smart af.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

And now I'm even hotter for a guy I can never have. Thanks, y'all!

Posted by: Lady Who... wants her country and family back at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (JCLJi)

94 that drops a stream of thermite

Asbestos roof armor.

I'm back baby!

Posted by: Johns Manville at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (FhXTo)

95 @77

>>Hail Marx full of free shit!

Remember the Murder Inc. Baby Parts Scandal?

Kamala as AG of California used her powers to pervert privacy laws to go after the group that exposed Planned Muderhoods scheme.

Single handeldy tried to imprison and ruin the group.

She's an evil c**t and G-d help us all if she becomes President.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

96 Probably cheap, obsolete missiles, because most commercial vessels don't have any countermeasures.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Supposedly, it's against international law and port law for a commercial cargo ship to have arms aboard.

Simple solution:
"The trade routes are too dangerous to traverse. Therefore, until you remove the threats of piracy, not foods or medicines will be delivered. Sorry."

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (tFPL6)

97 Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape from Seres school of thought can be used a mental heuristic for the drone problem.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:18 AM (bt/Nj)

Just skip the sodomy part of the training.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (xcxpd)

98 95 Single handeldy tried to imprison and ruin the group.

She's an evil c**t and G-d help us all if she becomes President.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 15, 2024 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

=======

Jailing black men for pot laws, letting loose violent criminals because they're illegal, and jailing investigative journalists.

She sounds like Barack Obama to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)

99 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 5h
BREAKING - Russia-North Korea defence pact has ‘clear’ meaning: Kremlin

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3h
NEW - US, Philippines launch war games a day after China's Taiwan drills

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3h
NEW - China warns against 'further escalation' of Korean peninsula tensions
China on Tuesday called for all parties on the Korean peninsula to avoid a "further escalation" after North Korea blew up sections of roads connecting it the South.

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW - Japan told China of 'concerns' over Taiwan drills, scrambled jets
Japan said Tuesday it expressed its "concerns" to China over military drills around Taiwan, adding that it scrambled fighter jets near its southern island

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:22 AM (hovnC)

100 How soon until we see drone-on-drone action in warfare?

Swarms of incoming drones met by an equally vicious swarm of counter-drones?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

101 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 9h
NEW: Taiwan detects record 153 Chinese military aircraft after drills
Taiwan detected a record 153 Chinese military aircraft around the self-ruled island, official data showed Tuesday, after China held a day of large-scale drills.

The aircraft were spotted in the 25 hours to 6:00 am on Tuesday (2200 GMT Monday), the defence ministry said in a statement — the most for a single day.

Beijing deployed fighter jets, drones, warships and coast guard boats to encircle Taiwan on Monday, with Taiwan responding by dispatching “appropriate forces” and placing its outlying islands on heightened alert.

Taiwan condemned China’s actions as “irrational and provocative”, and the US called them “unwarranted”.

Japan said Tuesday it had expressed its “concerns” to China over the drills, and scrambled fighter jets near its southern island of Yonaguni.

“The government is closely monitoring the related activities with great interest, and has conveyed Japan’s concerns to the Chinese side,” deputy chief cabinet secretary Kazuhiko Aoki told reporters.

insiderpaper.com Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 10h
JUST IN - North Korea blows up roads connecting it to the South

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:23 AM (hovnC)

102 100 How soon until we see drone-on-drone action in warfare?

Well, there is this site that...oh. You meant warfare. Never mind.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2024 11:23 AM (BpO1e)

103 "wonder whether energy weapons will ever become mobile enough for a squad to use them"

They'll probably look like the Ghostbusters backpack.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 15, 2024 11:24 AM (4XwPj)

104 I'm surprised the Houthis are using missiles and not drones to disrupt the trade routes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 15, 2024 11:11 AM (s9EYN)

Houthi and the Blowfish have been using "drone" boats packed with explosives. Saw some usetoob footage of an attack, where the drone boat was blowed up.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 15, 2024 11:24 AM (6PUpl)

105 >>Dolph Lundgren has a master's degree in chemical engineering, received scholarships from universities around the world (including a Fulbright Scholarship from MIT when that was a big fkn deal), and speaks seven languages. And all this while studying martial arts and working nights as a bouncer.

Dude is smart af.

Yup, he's a wicked smaht badazz! I'm so old I remember when he was on the cover of the "Men of ASU" calendar - hot!

Reminds me of the late Christopher Lee, another actor with a heck of a background before getting into acting. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:24 AM (scDBq)

106 @98

>>She sounds like Barack Obama to me.

Yep, ambiguously Black, tenuously American and marinated in marxist pap and tapped by the people who control sh*t to be the fronts for their wicked schemes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 15, 2024 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)

107 @43 as I understand it the Canadians are pissed because Sikh independence believers have gone after non sikh Indians in Canada. Canada allegedly gas evidence tying in Sikhs in India to the Canadian troubles

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 11:25 AM (vS8VI)

108 Until/unless drones with much higher speeds or maneuverability are developed, at least the terminal phase of defense resembles 1945 in the Pacific. Think 20mm AAA but with radar/electro-optical acquisition and aiming. Think the russkis have already displayed (if not deployed) such a system on an armored vehicle.

The cost exchange ratio for this part of the defense is sustainable.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 15, 2024 11:25 AM (zgeQC)

109 I know one of my far away neighbors shot down a snoopoing drone with his shotgun and 8 birdshot. Seems like multiples of that would be effective.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 15, 2024 11:25 AM (17s+e)

110 Curry Indians not Woowoo Indians, I'd point out.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM (hovnC)

I'm sorry, but that's extremely offensive.

It's supposed to be dot Indians versus feather Indians.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 15, 2024 11:25 AM (N1DT3)

111 106 Yep, ambiguously Black, tenuously American and marinated in marxist pap and tapped by the people who control sh*t to be the fronts for their wicked schemes.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 15, 2024 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)

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"Vote for her because she's black and a girl, my bruthas."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

112 These drones are pretty large.... too big to be launched from aircraft. Some are about the same size as a F-35. Others smaller, others larger.

Why? Better margins for defense contractors? Just on the basis of not needing to provide a human habitable cockpit it should be smaller.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (3cXfB)

113 A single laptop controlled this display in China:
http://tiny.cc/i0kqzz

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (Rbu5d)

114 I feel for him, hard, in Rocky (was it III?).

Mmm-hmmm.

Posted by: Lady Who... wants her country and family back at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (JCLJi)

115 How soon until we see drone-on-drone action in warfare?

Swarms of incoming drones met by an equally vicious swarm of counter-drones?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

Already happening in the Ukie AOR. More of one-on-one drone air-to-air combat. Interesting vidyas.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (6PUpl)

116 As soon as Helene passed, straightforward civilians were denied permission to launch drones to find people who needed help or to deliver supplies.

Yet we have all these unidentified drones zippinh over high-security areas and no one seems to even be able to come up with a plan to shoot one down.

Over-management?

Posted by: KT at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (xekrU)

117 Generally, when you get into to neutralizing a new threat you end up using the same technology that created the threat.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (c711F)

118 *fell

Posted by: Lady Who... wants her country and family back at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (JCLJi)

119 Speaking of drones, Glenn Reynolds posted this yesterday. It is...concerning.

https://instapundit.com/677539/

Posted by: Robert at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (YxqCv)

120 6...I blame the Battle of Wounded Knee!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 10:59 AM (L/fGl)

Marathon

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (Rbu5d)

121 It wouldn't take much of a drone threat to FOD a runway and the ramp areas during flight ops to take out a squadron of aircraft.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (luW68)

122 Indian Persons Experiencing Dotness
Indian Persons Experiencing Featherness

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (v6JzV)

123 Just skip the sodomy part of the training.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Weird factoid, Billy Joel and his band changed the name and lyrics of "Honesty" to "Sodomy"--such a lonely word, etc. etc. during sound checks.

Kinda of like Feliz Navidad can be rewritten to "Police Have Your Dad" repeated ad nauseam like the original.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (bt/Nj)

124 As soon as Helene passed, straightforward civilians were denied permission to launch drones to find people who needed help or to deliver supplies

But mostly so people couldn’t broadcast that FEMA is as useless as a dictionary belonging to Kamala.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2024 11:29 AM (3cXfB)

125 What slander. Our club isn't dangerous in the slightest.

Posted by: Bertie Wooster at October 15, 2024 11:29 AM (OguvZ)

126 Kinda of like Feliz Navidad can be rewritten to "Police Have Your Dad" repeated ad nauseam like the original.
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Please feed the Cat.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:29 AM (c711F)

127 123 Just skip the sodomy part of the training.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Weird factoid, Billy Joel and his band changed the name and lyrics of "Honesty" to "Sodomy"--such a lonely word, etc. etc. during sound checks.

Kinda of like Feliz Navidad can be rewritten to "Police Have Your Dad" repeated ad nauseam like the original.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (bt/Nj)

I've also heard 'Hare Krishna' subbed in for Feliz Navidad.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:29 AM (xcxpd)

128 Didn’t Biden actually call AmerInds “woo woo Indians” once?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2024 11:30 AM (3cXfB)

129 Here's a little good news. This is a very clear graphical representation of where Trump stands vs Harris, with a comparison to Biden and Hillary.

https://x.com/mattmargolis/status/1845829310327693529

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:30 AM (xCA6C)

130 Curry Indians not Woowoo Indians, I'd point out.
Posted by: andycanuck

I'm sorry, but that's extremely offensive.

It's supposed to be dot Indians versus feather Indians.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

7-11 vs Casino.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:30 AM (tFPL6)

131 "I want to wish you a Hare Krishna, I want to wish you a Hare Krishna, I want to wish you a Hare Krishna from the bottom of my heaaaaaart!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd)

132 Reminds me of the late Christopher Lee, another actor with a heck of a background before getting into acting. . .
Posted by: Lizzy
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During filming of one movie, Christopher Lee schooled a techie prop guy and the director on how to wield a dagger to lethal effect.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (bt/Nj)

133 It ain't compercated!

Christopher F. Rufo @realchrisrufo
Somebody hang this in the Louvre. The New York Times claims that I "seize[d] on" Kamala Harris's serial plagiarism. Admits later in the story that it is, in fact, plagiarism. And then calls noticing that fact "racist."

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Commie is right color with the right genitalia so the rules don't apply!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)

134 India calls expulsion of diplomats from Canada ‘preposterous imputations’ driven by Trudeau’s agenda

New Delhi has vehemently rejected Ottawa’s claims Indian diplomats were linked to homicides, extortion and other violent criminal activity in Canada, describing them as “preposterous imputations” driven by the political agenda of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

In a flurry of statements late Monday, India accused Mr. Trudeau of “smearing India for political gains” and ordered six Canadian diplomats, including acting High Commissioner Stewart Wheeler, to leave the country. This tit-for-tat response followed Canada’s own expulsion of Indian High Commissioner Sanjay Kumar Verma and five of his colleagues, who have been linked to the June 2023 killing of Surrey, B.C.-based Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (hovnC)

135 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 4h
The Sikh separatist whose murder sparked India-Canada row
Sikh activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, whose murder in June 2023 near his home in Vancouver sparked a diplomatic storm between India and Canada, was a long-time campaigner for a separate homeland for people of his faith.

Nijjar was shot dead aged 45 by masked gunmen outside the temple he presided over after being wanted by Indian authorities for alleged terrorism offences and conspiracy to commit murder — accusations he denied.

India has called allegations it was involved in his assassination “absurd”.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (hovnC)

136 Did Feliciano do anything else other than that crappy Christmas song?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (v6JzV)

137 We've seen those videos with dozens of drones doing synchronous maneuvers. Kind of frightening if you think about it even with the pretty lights.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (63Dwl)

138 132 Reminds me of the late Christopher Lee, another actor with a heck of a background before getting into acting. . .
Posted by: Lizzy
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During filming of one movie, Christopher Lee schooled a techie prop guy and the director on how to wield a dagger to lethal effect.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (bt/Nj)

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And then he dropped a metal album right then and there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

139 Kinda of like Feliz Navidad can be rewritten to "Police Have Your Dad" repeated ad nauseam like the original.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM (bt/Nj)

I've also heard 'Hare Krishna' subbed in for Feliz Navidad.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Feliz Navidad - Fleas on the dog.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:32 AM (tFPL6)

140 I've also heard 'Hare Krishna' subbed in for Feliz Navidad.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I wanna wish you a Hare Krishna--kinda works as a line.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:32 AM (bt/Nj)

141 A nation could treat all drones as threats, outlaw manufacture, harsh penalties for possessing one on particular with destructive device .
Onltly reason they are effective now is that they are cheap and readily available.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 15, 2024 11:32 AM (t+Tko)

142 136 Did Feliciano do anything else other than that crappy Christmas song?
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Come on Baby, Light my Fire.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:32 AM (c711F)

143 Here they come! Circle the vindaloo!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

144 Did Feliciano do anything else other than that crappy Christmas song?

Light My Fire. It was...not good.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)

145 And then he dropped a metal album right then and there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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IC Metal would be a decent name for a metal album.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:33 AM (bt/Nj)

146 Speaking of drones, Glenn Reynolds posted this yesterday. It is...concerning.

https://instapundit.com/677539/

Posted by: Robert at October 15, 2024 11:27 AM

This is where the push to ban DJI drones comes from. It's the same reason Huawei, Hikvision, etc CCTV cameras were banned. Everything those devices see gets sent back to China.

Posted by: Bert G at October 15, 2024 11:34 AM (VARTN)

147 So, here's our idea: we make the drones LARGER and then put PEOPLE in them so they can navigate them and fire weapons! Brilliant, right?!

Posted by: Defense Briefing, Circa 2075 at October 15, 2024 11:34 AM (qUkBO)

148 61
Expanding on detection:
I think anyone protecting against drones has to assume that the enemy is trying to put their drones next to you 24x7.
What is the cheapest example of radar that can reach out to at least a few hundred yards?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

149 64 >>Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal...
Is she a practicing Christian?
Has she ever said anything remotely indicative of an active faith?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (scDBq)

"Servant of God" depends on what god. Lots of 'em roiling about, but none are the Holy Trinity.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (Rbu5d)

150 Did Feliciano do anything else other than that crappy Christmas song?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024

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A version of "Light My Fire," I think.

And I love the melody to that FN song and play it all year long in my car. If I could get an instrumental I'd probably like it even better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

151 But for now, drones are a real threat, and as their stealth and range increase, so will their ability to disrupt previously secure operations.

Posted by: CBD at 10:55 AM

This new arms race brought to you by Best Buy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (kgE5c)

152 And that little drone was me!

Posted by: Mechamala Harris at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (qUkBO)

153
Feliz Navidad - Fleas on the dog.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

Nope. It's "Police shot my dog"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (dhiHa)

154 141 A nation could treat all drones as threats, outlaw manufacture, harsh penalties for possessing one on particular with destructive device .
Onltly reason they are effective now is that they are cheap and readily available.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Pretty much too late. Widespread dissemination plus open borders in a lot of the world means smuggling if you try to ban it.

Pushbutton warfare has always had a certain fascination for some military planners because they already think of troops as "meat drones" anyway.

Replacing them with mechanical drones eases a lot of problems with logistics, cost, concerns about survivability, and so on.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (bt/Nj)

155 At some point, some bad actor is going to weaponize small drones with Ebola or something equally nasty. You could shut down an entire country easily that way. In fact, you wouldn't actually have to Ebolize them; just start a rumor that you did.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)

156 As a graduate of the U.S. Navy's SERE school in the mid-80s, I can tell you that I have no idea what a mental heuristic is.

I can also tell you that there was no sodomy in camp located in the hills of Warner Springs, CA. That's because there were no Air Force fags in the group..

Posted by: one hour sober at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (Y1sOo)

157 Donald Trump shot Archduke Ferdinand.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (FfSAJ)

158 Nope. It's "Police shot my dog"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Seems to be an epidemic of that going round.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (bt/Nj)

159 I'm surprised the Houthis are using missiles and not drones to disrupt the trade routes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

I'm surprised no one has permanently ended them as pirates.

Morning all. Late start.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 15, 2024 11:16 AM

We no longer have the will or determination to do that. I got my first combat zone deployment back in the late 80s during the tanker wars when iran tried to close the gulf down for all oil tankers. We put a stop to that sinking or blowing up everything that iran had that floated. Once we did that they stopped fvcking around in the Gulf for decades.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (QNSds)

160 Even the heaviest shotgun load won't reach much past 50-60 yards. Those little drones can fly higher than that...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2024 11:36 AM (d9fT1)

161 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones. If successful, it would give the PLAN a warfighting tool the US doesn't currently have.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2024 11:00 AM (Q4IgG)
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The problem of course is that the Chinese cannot locate our subs. Their mini-aircraft carrier would be floating too long.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (GZYu7)

162 Feliciano has a net worth of $3.8 billion as of January 2024.
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Not bad for a blind Puerto Rican.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (c711F)

163 I'm sorry, but that's extremely offensive.

It's supposed to be dot Indians versus feather Indians.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Two nations divided by a single language!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (hovnC)

164 152 And that little drone was me!
Posted by: Mechamala Harris at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (qUkBO)

LOL.. When I saw this thread was about Drones all I could think of was Kamala.. Seriously

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (IyPmt)

165 It was actually Donald Trump that invaded Poland in 1939.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (FfSAJ)

166 Donald Trump shot Archduke Ferdinand.

Nonsense. It was Beau Biden.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (xCA6C)

167 >>>These things may be mounted on tanks and APCs, and hell, maybe even carried by infantry.

Phased plasma rifles in the 40 W range.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM (i24o9)

168 So Ender's Game is prophetic.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (Rbu5d)

169 I just want my Hellicarrier.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (5dESQ)

170 161 China is building a "drone mothership." A sort of mini-aircraft carrier designed to operate drones. If successful, it would give the PLAN a warfighting tool the US doesn't currently have.
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We have a drone sub seeker - destroyer in the water. Then next war will be very interesting.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (c711F)

171 Electronic interference can also be effective against drones. Ukraine videos have their guys saying sometimes they just lose control of their drone.

I'd guess that is why those pentagon drones were using a different frequency? Targeting the drone operator is also a real thing .... so operators sometimes are on the move. I'd guess they could turn off control as drone operates autonomously for at least part of the mission?

But we hope some of those excess costs are going to build our own million+ drone air force. Probably not though.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (Cus5s)

172 Vice President Kamala Harris was hailed as a “phenomenal servant of God” Sunday by Bishop Rosie O'Neal...
Is she a practicing Christian?
Has she ever said anything remotely indicative of an active faith?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2024 11:14 AM (scDBq)
________

Rosie is correct. Kumswala serviced the shit outta Leroy "God" OG from Willie Brown's crew.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

173 I can also tell you that there was no sodomy in camp located in the hills of Warner Springs, CA. That's because there were no Air Force fags in the group..
Posted by: one hour sober
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Heuristic is simply a mental picture often summarized in a phrase or acronym like SERE to remind one of the key tenets of what you are trying to accomplish. A mental hack basically that works especially when one is overloaded with a lot of problems immediately and you need a concise programming to follow to cut through the bullshit.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (bt/Nj)

174 Phased plasma rifles in the 40 W range.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM

Only what you see, pal.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (Wnv9h)

175 The problem of course is that the Chinese cannot locate our subs. Their mini-aircraft carrier would be floating too long.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at earlier. The days of "Here we come to attack you. We'll be there in a few weeks!" are over.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

176 Ergo repeated warnings? (He's confused issues so, I've missed his actual points.)

Biden takes swipe at Second Amendment supporters: 'You need F-15s' to take on the federal government
Biden has previously said those worried about the federal government would need fighter jets and nuclear weapons
By Louis Casiano Fox News, Published January 16, 2023 4:00pm EST

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (NFX2v)

177 *Bets $5 that they really mean Baal*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 15, 2024 11:20 AM (xcxpd)

Could be Moloch, given their love of sacrificing babies.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (Rbu5d)

178 Jen "We aren't going back " Rubin @JRubinBlogger
The unpleasant answer to Obama’s question — when did this become okay? — is that a frighteningly large percentage of Republicans are more interested in finding a strongman to defeat their enemies, restore a bygone era of White power, legitimize misogyny and prevent non-White immigrants from “poisoning” our blood, than they are in finding a decent, honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.

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Why can't you sumbitches be all polite like Jen?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

179 71
‘ Curry Indians not Woowoo Indians, I'd point out.’

Correct. Trudeau can expect at least 3 sternly worded emails before any consequences begin.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

180 Seems like drone controllers run on or around a fairly wide spectrum, including cell phones.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (luW68)

181 And by "instrumental" of "Feliz Navidad," I mean the actual song minus JF's vocals but with the horns and everything. I see instrumental versions on Yootoob, but they don't have the same zip.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (J2vNu)

182 Donald Trump shot Archduke Ferdinand.

Nonsense. It was Beau Biden.

Beau Biden jokes are the ONLY thing I'll miss about that a-hole.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C)

183 What slander. Our club isn't dangerous in the slightest.
Posted by: Bertie Wooster
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Surprised me that the Buffalo PBS station we get here censored the 'Pussy' out of the 'Pink Pussy Club' Bertie references.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (hovnC)

184 than they are in finding a decent, honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.

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Quality Candidate!

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (5dESQ)

185 A single laptop controlled this display in China:
http://tiny.cc/i0kqzz
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:26 AM (Rbu5d)

Radio jamming.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (IUd0M)

186 honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.

The ones you don't condone aborting Jen ? Those children ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (IyPmt)

187 But Trump did not shoot the deputy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 11:41 AM (vS8VI)

188 186 honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.

The ones you don't condone aborting Jen ? Those children ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:40 AM (IyPmt)

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Honorable and of good character like Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

189 Surprised me that the Buffalo PBS station we get here censored the 'Pussy' out of the 'Pink Pussy Club' Bertie references.
Posted by: andycanuck

Do they do that with Mrs. Slocumbe, too?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)

190 "Servant of God" depends on what god. Lots of 'em roiling about, but none are the Holy Trinity.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker

I worship the 33 kotis, and their infinite manifestations. Your "trinity" rules beneath them.

Posted by: Kamala "Subotai" Harris at October 15, 2024 11:42 AM (JCZqz)

191 We've seen those videos with dozens of drones doing synchronous maneuvers. Kind of frightening if you think about it even with the pretty lights.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (63Dwl)

Go to YouTube and watch the Chicom displays with THOUSANDS of drones.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 11:42 AM (g8Ew8)

192 171 Electronic interference can also be effective against drones. Ukraine videos have their guys saying sometimes they just lose control of their drone.

I'd guess that is why those pentagon drones were using a different frequency? Targeting the drone operator is also a real thing .... so operators sometimes are on the move. I'd guess they could turn off control as drone operates autonomously for at least part of the mission?

But we hope some of those excess costs are going to build our own million+ drone air force. Probably not though.
Posted by: illiniwek
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You can frequency jump (thanks to Hedy Lamarr) but in order to keep the control connected to a drone, you need to do it via computers mainly which can be predicted by those trying to stop a drone.

Radio frequency analysis is a complicated thing a ma jig and predictive is even more difficult. A simpler cure to basically to blast RF noise at all reasonable frequencies but that affects your own comm network as well.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (bt/Nj)

193 82
‘ Palestinian conference last May where they all openly admitted an active war on the US.’

Gosh. I hope these guy’s never get completely annihilated.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (jbnUc)

194 What is the cheapest example of radar that can reach out to at least a few hundred yards?
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Bats use Sonar!
🦇 🦇

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (hovnC)

195 Yeah, I trust that.

After all, Zelensky is 'The Servant of the People' (Netflix) and his political party is so named.

Martial law, move your opponents out, thwart religion, yada yada

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (NFX2v)

196
... than they are in finding a decent, honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.

"Kamala and Her Magic Kneepads" satisfies the decent and honorable requirements in what fashion, Jen?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (xG4kz)

197 ‘ Palestinian conference last May where they all openly admitted an active war on the US.’

Gosh. I hope these guy’s never get completely annihilated.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:43 AM (jbnUc)
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When's their next conference?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (7fElN)

198 Phased plasma rifles in the 40 W range.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 11:37 AM

Only what you see, pal.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2024 11:38 AM (Wnv9h)
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Always thought this was a dumb line written by someone with no idea how science works. 40 watts? That's not even a lightbulb. An air conditioner is 1,000 or more watts.

There's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

199 Donald Trump raped the Sabines.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (FfSAJ)

200 134 India calls expulsion of diplomats from Canada ‘preposterous imputations’ driven by Trudeau’s agenda

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:31 AM (hovnC)

"preposterous Imputations"
Addition to the style guide?

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (Rbu5d)

201 Besides being bored, it can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (0Sv+K)

202 I'd really like to know what drugs Kamala is on. Every picture of her I see she seems outer worldly in a profoundly dumb sort of way.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (c711F)

203 129

And the RCP betting sites aggregation today has Trump ...wait for it... +10.8, a new record lead for Trump by FAR.

Here's what I think has happened to the betting sites. Bettors who took Harris were sitting on profits in August. Then the polls moved EVER so slightly toward Trump. These bettors then decided to cover their bets & take profits.

Now, bettors who had Harris but have losing open positions are starting to do the same thing, i.e., cutting their losses by closing out their positions.

Polls can & do wait to "get right" until the lost poll before the election. However, bettors can't DO that! If you wait too long, there's nobody on the other side to pick up your bets at any price. They're worthless. For example, think of all the Biden bettors who got caught with worthless bets after the debate. They couldn't cover their bets because the market collapsed.

Posted by: KC Wolf (mnw) at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (NLIak)

204 I worship the 33 kotis, and their infinite manifestations. Your "trinity" rules beneath them.
Posted by: Kamala "Subotai" Harris at October 15, 2024 11:42 AM (JCZqz)

The prophets of Ba'al couldn't be reached for comment.

(If you know, you know)

Posted by: Just Lily at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (gKfvQ)

205 You can frequency jump (thanks to Hedy Lamarr) but in order to keep the control connected to a drone, you need to do it via computers mainly which can be predicted by those trying to stop a drone.

Radio frequency analysis is a complicated thing a ma jig and predictive is even more difficult. A simpler cure to basically to blast RF noise at all reasonable frequencies but that affects your own comm network as well.

More likely is a fleet of loitering aircraft in the Pacific. These would act as SOSUS does now, giving us early warning. They would be accompanied by laser-bearing platforms to shoot down drones.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)

206 199 Donald Trump raped the Sabines.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (FfSAJ)

In Bergdorf's

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:46 AM (IyPmt)

207 Approaching 60/40 for Trump on Polymarkets.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 15, 2024 11:46 AM (ChSnH)

208 There's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
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It is always entertaining to watch/read older science fiction stories and see how they forecast the economics of the "future." They are always off by orders of magnitude.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:46 AM (7fElN)

209 VDH name dropped the site this morning on his podcast 30:07 mins in lol

Posted by: LittleMissStrange at October 15, 2024 11:46 AM (Yhhvv)

210 Game over, dude. Game over.

Kamala’s Wins@harris_wins
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

211 BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

Anyone under 60: Who?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)

212 Do they do that with Mrs. Slocumbe, too?
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Not the 40 or so years ago at least. I also recall they didn't censor any of the mild nudity in Monty Python's Flying Circus and I, Claudius either.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (hovnC)

213 In the short run, I have great hopes for lasers to bolster Israel's defense. In the long run, do nuclear missiles become obsolete? Yay!

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (bEZCn)

214 >>Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris.

Appropriate considering Kamala's brain is like an empty vault.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (Y1sOo)

215 Do these celebrities endorsing Harris think anyone cares

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (FfSAJ)

216 What is the cheapest example of radar that can reach out to at least a few hundred yards?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

Looks like you can get a ~35NM boat radar + display on Amazon for $2500.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (IUd0M)

217 There's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

Maybe they were Space Dollars. Who knows what those might be worth.

Posted by: spindrift at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (OguvZ)

218 Game over, dude. Game over.

Kamala’s Wins@harris_wins
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

First, he finds an empty vault, then he supports an empty head. He's at least consistent in being empty.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (VNX3d)

219 After seeing CDR Salamander's post on the SM-3 missile debacle that's building up a head of steam, I'm starting to think that $100K/missile would be a bargain.

Posted by: Octochicken at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (oCS0o)

220 here's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
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It is always entertaining to watch/read older science fiction stories and see how they forecast the economics of the "future." They are always off by orders of magnitude.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:46 AM (7fElN)

That's $42 million space bucks, not USD dollars.

It's also fun to see the "future" timestamps, when you are watching it ten years past their "future" event date.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (i24o9)

221 217 Maybe they were Space Dollars. Who knows what those might be worth.
Posted by: spindrift at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (OguvZ)

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For a million space bucks, I'd rescue the Princess Vespa.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

222 Biden takes swipe at Second Amendment supporters: 'You need F-15s' to take on the federal government
Biden has previously said those worried about the federal government would need fighter jets and nuclear weapons
By Louis Casiano Fox News
Posted by: L
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Stupid people like Biden never think through anything they say--it is all posing.

You can take down an F15 cheap on the ground with simply putting fod around on the runway where it gets sucked up and destroys a very expensive engine.

Plus, aircraft is grounded for a time if Civil Engineering has to go out and sweep the runway or worse have a fod walk down the runway.

AF, as a technical service, never really took guerrilla action against air bases seriously--figuring that bases would either be in secure areas or worse, not really matter in a nuclear war.

In at least two instances--one in Korea, the other in Vietnam, airbases got attacked destroying and disabling planes and getting a lot of airmen killed. Afghani Taliban did something like that recently which shows the AF has not learned a damn thing about base security. It is a low priority training for them.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (bt/Nj)

223 "preposterous Imputations"
Addition to the style guide?
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Or a great band name!

Thank you. Come again.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (hovnC)

224 218 Game over, dude. Game over.

Kamala’s Wins@harris_wins
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

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I get a Kamala fangirl Twitter account going "this is huge" over something so small.

But this is not huge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

225 Maybe they were Space Dollars. Who knows what those might be worth.

No, the future will rely only on "credits".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (xCA6C)

226 225 Maybe they were Space Dollars. Who knows what those might be worth.

No, the future will rely only on "credits".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (xCA6C)

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"We will destroy you and replace your capitalist ways with space communism."
-The Federation, peace-loving

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

227 BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

Conservative.. Not.. They threw his ass off Fox...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 11:51 AM (IyPmt)

228 BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Gerry Rivers you mean. Fake and trading on his claimed ethnicity--Geraldo is the original DEI template and a genuinely stupid man that endangered the life of troops around him just to show he was a 'real journalist' when embedded with a unit.

Sucks to be him.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:51 AM (bt/Nj)

229 The US Army already has two fully-deployable, in service directed energy defense units built by Raytheon. They are mounted on Strykers if I recall and are capable of shooting down rockets, missiles and drones.

Basing this off of memory - but the tech is already mature enough for production defense deployment.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 15, 2024 11:51 AM (TqcVY)

230 153 Feliz Navidad - Fleas on the dog.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

Nope. It's "Police shot my dog"

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Bob Rivers did a version called "Police Stopped My Car"

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (eb5mD)

231 Let me think here
So their view God wants transgenders, abortions up to the last minute, criminals being let loose on children,

Well ok then, guess they are on the way to heaven

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (0Sv+K)

232 No, the future will rely only on "credits".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (xCA6C)

What about quatloos?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (P/Wjn)

233 AF, as a technical service, never really took guerrilla action against air bases seriously

Yeah, you probably shouldn't do that. You should clump them together so as to more easily guard them.

Posted by: Husband E. Kimmel at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (xCA6C)

234 After seeing CDR Salamander's post on the SM-3 missile debacle that's building up a head of steam, I'm starting to think that $100K/missile would be a bargain.

Posted by: Octochicken at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM

The problem with the standard block missile program is the military keeps demanding more and more capabilities every few years and that has caused the cost per missile to explode/skyrocket.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (QNSds)

235 IDF, Shin Bet kill Hamas terrorist behind October 7 paraglider infiltrations
The IDF and Shin Bet have eliminated the head of Hamas’s aerial operations, Samer Abu Daqqa, the IDF announced on Monday.

Abu-Daqqa was a key figure behind the paragliders and drones used to infiltrate Israeli territory on October 7.

In September 2024, Israeli Air Force fighter jets, guided by Military Intelligence and the Shin Bet, targeted and killed Abu Daqqa. He had taken over the role after the previous leader was eliminated in October 2023.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (hovnC)

236 ‘ Curry Indians not Woowoo Indians, I'd point out.’

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Please. Persons of Dot v. Persons of Feather.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

237 Oops. #235 Hot enough for ya??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:52 AM (hovnC)

238 Squeak at them all you wish, but the Ukes seem to have a pretty good grasp of the drone subject. They've led the way so far in using drones imaginatively.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (hKoQL)

239 > The US Army already has two fully-deployable, in service directed energy defense units built by Raytheon. They are mounted on Strykers if I recall and are capable of shooting down rockets, missiles and drones.
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Article from TWZ (The War Zone) on this:

https://tinyurl.com/3mfpy9ps

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)

240 178...finding a decent, honorable person to lead the country and set an example for our children.
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

Jen, Jen, Jen.
PARENTS are supposed to be examples to their children.
A bl*wjob queen who has never held a job in the private sector is neither decent, nor honorable. We're not voting for parent of the US, nor for Saint of the US. (we have those, already, one being
St John of San Francisco.)

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (Rbu5d)

241 There's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
*
Maybe they were Space Dollars. Who knows what those might be worth.
Posted by: spindrift at October 15, 2024

***
Several hundred years in the future? Civilization might have gone through an interregnum or dark age, clawed itself back up, and based its money on something solid like gold or platinum (y'know, like we used to). So their $42M could have the buying power of 1979's $42B in our world.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)

242 I'd really like to know what drugs Kamala is on. Every picture of her I see she seems outer worldly in a profoundly dumb sort of way.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (c711F)

Every time I hear her speak I wonder what it's like on her planet.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (JCLJi)

243 Basing this off of memory - but the tech is already mature enough for production defense deployment.

Yes, but deployment would distract from our DEI training.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

244 More likely is a fleet of loitering aircraft in the Pacific. These would act as SOSUS does now, giving us early warning. They would be accompanied by laser-bearing platforms to shoot down drones.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Above my pay grade and technical skills to imagine all of what can be done to thwart drones and then drones will have their own countermeasures to the countermeasures.

It will end up like Mad Magazine's Spy v. Spy series.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (bt/Nj)

245 The Chinese don't have to worry about any counter-measures from us (currently). They already have captured our 'leadership'.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (WXNFJ)

246
Jerry Rivers has been "endorsing" Democrats forever.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (nX34c)

247 "Former Conservative Fox News" host should be "Conservative Fox News former host" but was worded that way on purpose [not that Fox has been conservative for probably 15 years now].

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (hovnC)

248 208 There's also a line in Aliens (same director) where there's a comment that the Nostromo -- that massive interstellar ship from the first movie -- cost $42 million. Are they insane?? Maybe $42 billion.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade

I just watch the original Dirty Harry movie a few days ago...laughed when the killer Scorpio demanded $100,000 from San Francisco, or he'd kill again. Also, Harry was shot in the leg, but didn't want the doctor to cut the pants off, because they cost $27 or something, so he was just going to get them cleaned and mended.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (JCZqz)

249 @39/anachronda: You are false data.

Posted by: Bomb #20 at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (O7YUW)

250 Several hundred years in the future? Civilization might have gone through an interregnum or dark age, clawed itself back up, and based its money on something solid like gold or platinum (y'know, like we used to). So their $42M could have the buying power of 1979's $42B in our world.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)
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A global "reset" is entirely plausible...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 11:55 AM (7fElN)

251 Everyone is looking for something more reliable than polling. I suspect "betting markets" aren't any better.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 15, 2024 11:55 AM (qUkBO)

252
@kalamawins is the worst gaslighting misinformation twitter account in 2024

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (nX34c)

253 >>BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

It's over guys, it's OVER!

Posted by: Red Hat Guy at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (i0B+i)

254 I just watch the original Dirty Harry movie a few days ago...laughed when the killer Scorpio demanded $100,000 from San Francisco, or he'd kill again. Also, Harry was shot in the leg, but didn't want the doctor to cut the pants off, because they cost $27 or something, so he was just going to get them cleaned and mended.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 15, 2024 11:54 AM (JCZqz)
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He should have asked for...(pause for effect)...ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!

Posted by: Dr. Evil at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (7fElN)

255 The prophets of Ba'al couldn't be reached for comment.

(If you know, you know)
Posted by: Just Lily at October 15, 2024 11:45 AM (gKfvQ)

Jezebel is MAD.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (Rbu5d)

256 What is the cheapest example of radar that can reach out to at least a few hundred yards?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

Looks like you can get a ~35NM boat radar + display on Amazon for $2500.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 11:48 AM (IUd0M)

You have baseball radars that are $100 to $200, YMMV, range is probably short, based on power source and intended usage. Next is ballistic doppler, $500-600ish.

Problem is not just range, which means power, but sophistication of the antenna and tracking and targeting algorithms. Most sophisticated radars use arrays of (100s?) antennas and can steer the radar waves by constructive and destructive interference.

Those antennas must be manufactured to precise tolerances and spacing, whereas the military already has tracking tech. Problem is one of scaling, data transfer, and coordination between stations, and it's probably not something you'd just want to leave lying around on the battlefield, which means you'd deploy it mainly in areas of high value, which means, not grunts, unfortunately.

Low tech nets are probably a better bet for the stationary grunt. Mobile? Sorry.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (i24o9)

257 Several hundred years in the future? Civilization might have gone through an interregnum or dark age, clawed itself back up, and based its money on something solid like gold or platinum (y'know, like we used to). So their $42M could have the buying power of 1979's $42B in our world.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)

Bitcoin. The future is Orange

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (D7oie)

258 Anyone under 60: Who?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)

Anyone over 60, with half a brain: Hahahaha! And your point is?

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (JCLJi)

259 There was footage a couple of months ago of some Russian(?) soldier headbutting a drone as it flew at him. It still detonated, but the guy apparently lived. That's about the most Russian thing I've ever seen.

Posted by: PabloD at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (5IKKM)

260 There must be an alternative arms supplier for Israel. Somebody not named Biden. I saw it in "Lord of War".

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (+EOmr)

261 No, the future will rely only on "credits".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024
*
What about quatloos?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 15, 2024

***
An alien coinage. Hell, a "quatloo" might have been no more than plastic chips or matches, for the Providers to keep score on each other.

Spock: "Captain, I calculate that a 'quatloo' would approximate .00001479 of a standard Federation credit."

Kirk (amused): "Not very flattering, if that was all the Providers were willing to wager on us."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (J2vNu)

262 Game over, dude. Game over.

Kamala’s Wins@harris_wins
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

========

I get a Kamala fangirl Twitter account going "this is huge" over something so small.

But this is not huge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)
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This was the 75 year-old grandfather flexing shirtless in a creepy, very gay video he was probably sending to near-underage girls. Hard no for me on his political advice.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)

263
Jerry Rivers is HATED by conservatives.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (nX34c)

264 262
This was the 75 year-old grandfather flexing shirtless in a creepy, very gay video he was probably sending to near-underage girls. Hard no for me on his political advice.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)

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But the 75 year olds who watch Fox News will all completely switch to supporting Harris now!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

265 A simpler cure to basically to blast RF noise at all reasonable frequencies but that affects your own comm network as well.

Posted by: whig

You have clearbands that frequency hop in synch with you own comms freq hop.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 15, 2024 11:58 AM (t+Tko)

266 263
Jerry Rivers is HATED by conservatives.
Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (nX34c)

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Let's keep in mind that progressives really do think that the only reason America isn't 100% progressive is because Fox News convinces its viewers to support the Republican Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

267 Anyone under 60: Who?
Posted by: Archimedes

I'm under 60 (barely), and I remember Jeraldo.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 11:58 AM (v6JzV)

268
kalamapedia turns 60 in 5 days.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 11:58 AM (nX34c)

269 Hey, guys, some D-list fake conservative attention whore that grampa used to watch on the TV just endorsed Harris. Election's over.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 15, 2024 11:59 AM (qUkBO)

270 But then Sundowner and many Democrats said the Govcould be taken out without any firearms, it almost happened so which is it?

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2024 11:59 AM (0Sv+K)

271 269 Hey, guys, some D-list fake conservative attention whore that grampa used to watch on the TV just endorsed Harris. Election's over.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 15, 2024 11:59 AM (qUkBO)

Trump just gained a bunch of new voters

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (IyPmt)

272 After seeing CDR Salamander's post on the SM-3 missile debacle that's building up a head of steam, I'm starting to think that $100K/missile would be a bargain.
Posted by: Octochicken at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (oCS0o)

This is the way forward. The salvo competition is real. The Chinese still operate under the strategy of quantity is quality. Look at what happen in Ukie land, some of the M1 Abrams were taken out by less expensive drones defeating a multimillion dollar tank weapon system. More for less.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (6PUpl)

273 Several years ago, a group held a pigeon shoot outside Columbia SC...an animal rights group flew a camera drone over the shoot site...it didn't fare well.

Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (Yj6Os)

274 Falconry.

That's how you combat Drones.

With Fucking Falcons.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (i0B+i)

275 253 >>BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

It's over guys, it's OVER!
Posted by: Red Hat Guy at October 15, 2024 11:56 AM (i0B+i)

If Geraldo traded brains with Biden, would you notice a difference?

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (Qyf/j)

276 A simpler cure to basically to blast RF noise at all reasonable frequencies but that affects your own comm network as well.

Posted by: whig

Coherent beams might work. I don't know of any, but if you can cohere Microwave through hard ultraviolet, RF is probably not impossible.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (D7oie)

277 True fact: My dad went to law school with Jerry Rivers. True but almost impossible-to-believe fact: Rivers was a JEW at the time. He didn't adopt this phony latino "Geraldo Rivera" persona until years later.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

278 Squeak at them all you wish, but the Ukes seem to have a pretty good grasp of the drone subject. They've led the way so far in using drones imaginatively.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA

Everybody keeps talking about it being the start of WW3, but it feels to me more like a Spanish Civil War situation, where a lot of what's to come gets tested before the main event.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (OUMaO)

279 How long before AI driven lifelike robotic birds are equipped with explosives and capable of descending as one flock on a target?

Posted by: Rex B at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (BT7V7)

280 Hey, guys, some D-list fake conservative attention whore that grampa used to watch on the TV just endorsed Harris. Election's over.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 15, 2024 11:59 AM (qUkBO)

Moose out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (i24o9)

281 If Geraldo traded brains with Biden, would you notice a difference?
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 12:00 PM (Qyf/j)
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Would THEY notice a difference?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (7fElN)

282 If there's anybody who knows drones it's the Democrat Party.
Place is chock full of 'em.

Posted by: Pussy Galore at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (MB784)

283
Unlike jen rubin and krystal, Jerry Rivers has never even claimed to be conservative. He has always been quite upfront about his Democrat party "values." Right in line with Juan Williams and Mara Liason.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (nX34c)

284 True fact: My dad went to law school with Jerry Rivers. True but almost impossible-to-believe fact: Rivers was a JEW at the time. He didn't adopt this phony latino "Geraldo Rivera" persona until years later.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

That explains why he looks so much like Viva Frei

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (D7oie)

285 My wife tells me that it's Squirrel Awareness Month.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (v6JzV)

286 In at least two instances--one in Korea, the other in Vietnam, airbases got attacked destroying and disabling planes and getting a lot of airmen killed. Afghani Taliban did something like that recently which shows the AF has not learned a damn thing about base security. It is a low priority training for them.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 11:49 AM (bt/Nj)

Sadly, if it came down to that, these people would discover how unsafe their families are.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (IUd0M)

287 You have clearbands that frequency hop in synch with you own comms freq hop.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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You start to get into a loop where it becomes game theory at some point. Any scheduling algorithm made by a computer can be figured out by another computer and circumvented.

Fog of war made literal.

Our military got used to dealing with basically insurgency type fights and is now having to switch again to peer or near peer situations where the enemy may have as good if not better tech in areas.

Seems to be an endless cycle for our military.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (bt/Nj)

288 Several years ago, a group held a pigeon shoot outside Columbia SC...an animal rights group flew a camera drone over the shoot site...it didn't fare well.

Posted by: BignJames

Flesh-and-feathers birds of prey have been known to take umbrage to drones in their territory and take them out. It's a thing.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (OUMaO)

289 CBD: This post reminded me of this video:

Sci-Fi Short Film “Slaughterbots” | DUST

https://youtu.be/O-2tpwW0kmU

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (O7YUW)

290 Kamala’s Wins@harris_wins
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

========

I get a Kamala fangirl Twitter account going "this is huge" over something so small.

But this is not huge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 15, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

It was cold. -- Geraldo Rivera

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (IUd0M)

291 True fact: My dad went to law school with Jerry Rivers. True but almost impossible-to-believe fact: Rivers was a JEW at the time. He didn't adopt this phony latino "Geraldo Rivera" persona until years later.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

That explains why he looks so much like Viva Frei
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (D7oie)
____

His mom is stone-cold Jewish, IIRC

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

292 I wonder if he found Kamala's brains in Al Capone's vault.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 12:04 PM (FfSAJ)

293 My wife tells me that it's Squirrel Awareness Month.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (v6JzV)

That's every day/month for my GSD/Wolf Dog. Squirrels are the edible enemy to him.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 15, 2024 12:04 PM (6PUpl)

294 273 Maybe, if there is a threat from the small hand launched drones, troops armed with shotguns should also be issued a 30" full choke barrel and a quantity of shells of a proper shot size. I think maybe a 3" #4 turkey load would bring down a small drone once it reaches the perimeter.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

295 There must be an alternative arms supplier for Israel. Somebody not named Biden. I saw it in "Lord of War".
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 11:57 AM (+EOmr)

I'm betting that a few Arab countries are secretly helping Israel. Same for Europe. None of them like Hamas or Hezbollah either.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (g8Ew8)

296
Fox's The Five used to have jerry rivers on as a stand-in token Democrat for Juan Williams. That's how "conservative" he is.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (nX34c)

297 I want to have my own anti-drone capability.
Posted by: Common Tater

The sport of falconry calls!

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (hB7mE)

298 234
‘ You should clump them together so as to more easily guard them.
Posted by: Husband E. Kimmel’

This is the only thing I am known for. Don’t steal my credit.

Posted by: Walter Short at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

299 Rivera got started in the crusading reporter role on local WABC-TV in the early 70s by exposing poor conditions at the Willowbrook State School in NY. So, by endorsing Kumala, he is once again using the retarded to further his career.

Posted by: Jerry Rivers at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (nS6qG)

300 277 True fact: My dad went to law school with Jerry Rivers. True but almost impossible-to-believe fact: Rivers was a JEW at the time. He didn't adopt this phony latino "Geraldo Rivera" persona until years later.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 15, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

And Kammie was Indian before she decided to be black.

Grifters gonna grift.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (Rbu5d)

301 Vance visits police station in Minneapolis burned in George Floyd riots.

VERY nice!

Posted by: KC Wolf (mnw) at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (NLIak)

302 Our military got used to dealing with basically insurgency type fights and is now having to switch again to peer or near peer situations where the enemy may have as good if not better tech in areas.

Seems to be an endless cycle for our military.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (bt/Nj)
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I think it's just the nature of ever-evolving warfare over time.

Let me know when we start hurling anti-matter planets across galaxies at our enemies....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (7fElN)

303 My main concern is the drone’s pronouns.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (N1N2P)

304 Do the "conservative Christians " who won't support Trump because of character concerns truly not know anything about Harris and Walz?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (FfSAJ)

305 279 How long before AI driven lifelike robotic birds are equipped with explosives and capable of descending as one flock on a target?

I was witness to a demonstration of a robotic crow about a dozen years ago. I suspect they could do it now if they so choose.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

306 Seems to be an endless cycle for our military.
Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:03 PM (bt/Nj)

Endlessly fighting the last war with perfect hindsight.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (i24o9)

307 Let me know when we start hurling anti-matter planets across galaxies at our enemies....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024 12:06 PM (7fElN)

That's not a moon!

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 15, 2024 12:07 PM (snjgf)

308 Maybe, if there is a threat from the small hand launched drones, troops armed with shotguns should also be issued a 30" full choke barrel and a quantity of shells of a proper shot size. I think maybe a 3" #4 turkey load would bring down a small drone once it reaches the perimeter.
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If they don't hurt their balls loading/reloading the shotgun!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 12:07 PM (hovnC)

309 Plasma rifle in the 40 watt range....

Posted by: blaster at October 15, 2024 12:07 PM (xhfG9)

310 I'm betting that a few Arab countries are secretly helping Israel. Same for Europe. None of them like Hamas or Hezbollah either.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2024 12:05 PM (g8Ew

Europe kinda is Arab countries these days.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (N1N2P)

311 Juan Williams

Smartest guy in the world.

Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (Yj6Os)

312 305 Non robotic bats with tiny incendiaries were tested in WW2 to drop on fire prone Japanese cities.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (gm9Sb)

313
lol, "conservative Christians" are neither.

Don't fall for it.

Posted by: Archie Debunker at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (nX34c)

314 Birds aren't real.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (bpieT)

315 My wife tells me that it's Squirrel Awareness Month.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

That's nuts!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2024 12:08 PM (WXNFJ)

316 Birds aren't real.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Aren't you the one who's always complaining about woodpeckers?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:09 PM (v6JzV)

317 OW, MY BALLS...

Posted by: Timpon Awalz at October 15, 2024 12:09 PM (1FWWQ)

318 Autonomous drones are where it's at. The FPV operation is cool, the videos spank, but having a drone be able to fly to a target, engage it and then return to base makes all the jamming tech almost irrelevant.

Sure, the drone can be shot down, jammed or whatever. But the point is that it's an unmanned drone doing the attacking and the pilot(s) can be used elsewhere.

This is where our military is trying to go.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2024 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)

319 Relying on a $2billion dollar laser to knock down fleets of $2000 drones seems like a bad ratio.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (IG4Id)

320 Aren't you the one who's always complaining about woodpeckers?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:09 PM (v6JzV)

Just Woody, that annoying summabitch.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (snjgf)

321 There is a simple solution...

https://ytube.io/42Nq

Yeah, a drone with 'brick' taped to it...Physics 101: the object with superior mass wins a collision.

And yes, the Pentagon knows about these folks.

https://ytube.io/42Nr

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (XjTSo)

322 Sadly, if it came down to that, these people would discover how unsafe their families are.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Leaving aside any sabotage from within which is not difficult, airbases require power, food, components to aircraft, and fuel deliveries which is not necessarily easy to do in a war zone.

SAS became legendary in screwing with Axis airbases with raids with not particularly sophisticated tactics. Fixed base security is a tedious job with most of the technical ground staff not being able to fight their way out of a paper bag. Thus reliance on a relatively small force that is trained using the rest of ground staff as ill trained cannon fodder. But, valuable cannon fodder in terms of technical skills to keep an airbase running.

Those assigned with defending such a target have the problem that the enemy knows where they are and can pick the best time and tactics to assault the base with a raid.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (bt/Nj)

323 Fuck. They're driving thru my yard again. Look, I get it. The bank between the road and the field is not high but steep enough to be problematic. But DUDE! Stop leaving giant ruts in my yard because of the giant farm equipment!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (4XwPj)

324 194
You’re killing me.

216
I found a $2100 Raymarine radar that claims it can detect a flock of birds. It also says it can reach 48(!) nautical miles. That should do the trick.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (jbnUc)

325 311 Juan Williams

Smartest guy in the world.

***

I'm right here!

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (Y1sOo)

326 295 There must be an alternative arms supplier for Israel.
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I nominate South Korea. They're coming on like gangbusters.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 15, 2024 12:10 PM (paSBy)

327 Seems to be an endless cycle for our military.
Posted by: whig

Endlessly fighting the last war with perfect hindsight.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

And ever restrictive ROEs. It doesn't matter what capabilities you have if you can't/won't kill your enemy.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 15, 2024 12:11 PM (WXNFJ)

328 308 Maybe, if there is a threat from the small hand launched drones, troops armed with shotguns should also be issued a 30" full choke barrel and a quantity of shells of a proper shot size. I think maybe a 3" #4 turkey load would bring down a small drone once it reaches the perimeter.
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If they don't hurt their balls loading/reloading the shotgun!
Posted by: andycanuck
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Just have to take out optics and comms--the drone will crash on its own if either go.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:11 PM (bt/Nj)

329 WTI down 4-5% today.
Looks like the Junta won't let Israel destroy Iran's oil and Nuke production.

Posted by: DAN at October 15, 2024 12:11 PM (BJziQ)

330 Aren't you the one who's always complaining about woodpeckers?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

It was one tiny rant 6 years ago!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2024 12:11 PM (pCcc4)

331 Non robotic bats with tiny incendiaries were tested in WW2 to drop on fire prone Japanese cities.
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🦇
💣

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 12:12 PM (hovnC)

332 Autonomous drones are where it's at. The FPV operation is cool, the videos spank, but having a drone be able to fly to a target, engage it and then return to base makes all the jamming tech almost irrelevant.

Sure, the drone can be shot down, jammed or whatever. But the point is that it's an unmanned drone doing the attacking and the pilot(s) can be used elsewhere.

This is where our military is trying to go.

aka Skynet.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)

333 It was one tiny rant 6 years ago!
Posted by: nurse ratched

Ah, before my time here, then. Sorry.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (v6JzV)

334 Squirrels aren't very aware, they can't remember where they buried their nuts

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (vS8VI)

335 And now, from the Britain formerly known as Great . . .

Brits are being encouraged to recycle their old electric cords because the country doesn't have enough copper for its green energy push

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)

336 WTI down 4-5% today.
Looks like the Junta won't let Israel destroy Iran's oil and Nuke production.

I think Israel is all in on this war, and won't listen to the Biden administration at all. They know if Trump wins, they don't need to worry.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)

337 P.S. -- Anduril has LOTS of nifty ideas...

https://ytube.io/42Ns

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (XjTSo)

338 Endlessly fighting the last war with perfect hindsight.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

And ever restrictive ROEs. It doesn't matter what capabilities you have if you can't/won't kill your enemy.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Western warfare since Westphalia goes into cycles where total war cause new barbarity often made worse by new tech and police actions using hearts and minds techniques to fight nicely with pinky extended.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (bt/Nj)

339
BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

Waiting for Gutfeld to comment on this!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (63Dwl)

340 Sure, the drone can be shot down, jammed or whatever. But the point is that it's an unmanned drone doing the attacking and the pilot(s) can be used elsewhere.

This is where our military is trying to go.

aka Skynet.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Also embrace 'hacked'. Anything designed by one guy can be circumvented by a different one. Harder to hack humans than a bot.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (bt/Nj)

341 Western warfare since Westphalia goes into cycles where total war cause new barbarity often made worse by new tech and police actions using hearts and minds techniques to fight nicely with pinky extended.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:13 PM (bt/Nj)

Wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelz while you're killing them.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (i24o9)

342 334 Squirrels aren't very aware, they can't remember where they buried their nuts
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Sort of like Hunter Biden.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (bt/Nj)

343 Let me know when we start hurling anti-matter planets across galaxies at our enemies....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 15, 2024

***
You rang?

Posted by: The Doomsday Machine at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

344 >>Brits are being encouraged to recycle their old electric cords because the country doesn't have enough copper for its green energy push

I am guessing that recycling Copper wire is more damaging to the environment than actually mining Copper.

Because, of course it is.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2024 12:15 PM (i0B+i)

345 No, Nurse, it was much more than a "tiny rant". It was a vendetta, a savage one that is burned into the hippocampus of everyone on the blog. Unforgettable, that's what you are.

Posted by: Pileated Pete at October 15, 2024 12:16 PM (nS6qG)

346 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:16 PM (v6JzV)

347 Noodus complaints from KH

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 15, 2024 12:17 PM (J2vNu)

348 BREAKING: Former Conservative Fox News host, Geraldo Rivera, just announced he is endorsing Kamala Harris. This is huge.

I'm sure Geraldo's endorsement is based on some sucklemental education he came by.

Posted by: Some guy named Willie at October 15, 2024 12:18 PM (BJziQ)

349 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 15, 2024 12:18 PM (hovnC)

350 Assign the drone issue to the E4 Mafia, problem solved.

Of course, it'll be solved by soldiers negotiating a trade of a 12 pack of Heineken, a Silva Ranger compass, a 6 month supply of Hustler magazine and two cases of MREs with the drone, in exchange for self-immolating in an empty field.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2024 12:18 PM (y9nCu)

351 Wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelz while you're killing them.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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In some cases, it makes sense--you do not use a nuke on a fly for example. A lot of what the military has done is to secure trading or forestall enemies using a country as a launching pad. Aka teh Great Game.

US got into human rights and put small number of troops in places like Niger, Somalia, Lebanon, for various wooly headed reasons plus with an eye to deny those strategic places to various enemies of the US.

But, simply, we don't have the strength nor the willpower to actually pacify them like the old style empires tried to do by killing off a large part of the native populace.

So, we are what Jerry Pournelle called, an incompetent empire (trading like Athens, not Roman) and spread across the globe.

Posted by: whig at October 15, 2024 12:20 PM (bt/Nj)

352 332 Autonomous drones are where it's at.
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The Corvo is an Aussie-made cardboard drone costing $700-$3000. It ships in a flat-pack and is assembled on site for one-man launch.

It flies autonomously up to 75 miles to deliver a six-pound charge with pinpoint accuracy.

Awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-2W23s3Ys

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 15, 2024 12:21 PM (paSBy)

353 You gotta hit me, hit me, hit me with your laser beam!

Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at October 15, 2024 12:24 PM (jTs12)

354 285 My wife tells me that it's Squirrel Awareness Month.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (v6JzV)

We need possum awareness month. I see too many of these fine creatures on the highway.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 15, 2024 12:26 PM (6KLK+)

355 Why can't you sumbitches be all polite like Jen?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Born In the Wagon of a Middle Class Show at October 15, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
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They aren't that stupid?

Posted by: Black JEM at October 15, 2024 12:30 PM (GZYu7)

356 My wife tells me that it's Squirrel Awareness Month.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 15, 2024 12:02 PM (v6JzV)

Perfessor better watch his back.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 15, 2024 12:50 PM (0eaVi)

357 ) Hot girls are waiting for you on --- www.Nu21.eu

Posted by: Sitta at October 15, 2024 01:05 PM (bntIo)

358 Gen4 warfare isn't a new concept. The technology has caught up to the concept though.

Posted by: rechill at October 15, 2024 01:12 PM (Q1LXu)

359 Hmmm, an undetectable way to take down airliners or other undesirable 'executive' aircraft...

Posted by: The CIA at October 15, 2024 01:21 PM (0ljUU)

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