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Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Oct. 12

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“I'm so glad I live in a world where there are Octobers.”
~ L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From the famous Pat*

Part of my fall harvest: All the pie pumpkins (5) - all the purple sweet potatoes (about a pound) - half the fingerling potato harvest (27 pounds) - and some representative green zucchini, onions, and Sun Gold cherry tomatoes.

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Tremendous!

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Hurricanes and Trees

One thing we learned in the recent hurricanes was that trees can pose a danger when they come down in hurricanes, tornadoes or other high winds. The University of Florida has a fact sheet with several lessons learned from hurricanes about wind and trees and lessons learned about soil and rooting conditions. Plus recommendations. Which do you find that might be applicable to you?

The first recommendation is to plant trees in groups.

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Palm trees are generally considered to be wind-resistant and are often planted in hurricane zones. But some are more wind-resistant than others. Here are some data on hurricane survival of various trees. And some tips on tree choices.

There may be some tips to make even palms safer.


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Cut Flowers

Dahlias in Switzerland

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Puttering

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Hubs built an owl box last month hoping to attract a mouse catcher. While raking hay he snapped this pic of a barn owl already checking out the new digs.

S.Lynn, Idaho

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What a great project!

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Adventure

Visited the Boyce Thompson Arboretum with the grandkids, Arizona's oldest and largest botanical garden, located in the heart of the Sonoran Desert, just outside Superior AZ, and had a fun day. Definitely worth the visit.

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Lots of hikes available.

We saw quite a few beautiful butterflies.

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Recognize the butterflies, or the plants?

They have a fall plant sale starting tomorrow. It's their centennial!

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It might be possible to get enough starts to create a cactus fence. Looks like it could be effective.

Gardens of The Horde

Garden report from OrangeEnt

Sorry, I bailed out early on the thread. Most of the time no one replies to me, so I leave.

Anyway, We live in LV and it gets hot in May. We're still getting 100 plus temps for at least the next week. That's usually fine because I drape that green outdoor netting over the plants. Maybe it's because I used Miracle-Gro stuff. I'd seen a story a while ago that their stuff wasn't any good.

We planted cherry tomatoes, and Early Girls in a different bed than last year. We had the tomatoes all over the place last year and got bowls full of toms. This year, the plants wouldn't even grow. One or two green ones that shriveled up. I pulled them. A second bed had two zucchini plants. The flowered, but it seemed we got only a couple female blooms. One set and started to get good sized, then we saw it turned yellow on the end. There were a few more, but they all yellowed and shrunk after a couple days of good growth. On a third bed we planted two rows of carrots. They grew up, then stopped. I'm not sure, but maybe the watermelons nearby took all the water. The melon plants grew well and I kept them trimmed. Had a few good sized ones and waited and waited for the yellow spot that indicates ripeness. Cut one open and it was completely white inside.. Some of the others were the same way. The last one was overripe. I pulled everything out after that.

I planted garlic, marigolds, and basil in between most of the plants for pest control. That part worked at least. Couldn't get very many bees or butterflies to pollinate. So, I don't know if it was over or underwatering, poor soil, or no pollinators. I'll amend the soil and deepen it in the new bed to see if that works. I'll put the tomatoes back where they were last year. I'll keep trying because you never know how the economy will be in the next few years.

Thanks.

OrangeEnt

Any tips for OrangeEnt for next year?


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Oct. 5


Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:17 PM




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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2024 01:20 PM (fwDg9)

2 Hi, Skip!

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2024 01:22 PM (xekrU)

3 Cactus fence?
- moves to top of list

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 01:24 PM (o2ZRX)

4 Happy to live in a year with this October. What a beautiful, warm fall so far.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2024 01:25 PM (AGNk7)

5 Gathered the last 3 cucumbers from garden today.
My garden spot I think has ran out of sunlight. Even green tomatoes are not doing much now.

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2024 01:25 PM (fwDg9)

6 Let the Horticultural Badinage and Raillery begin!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 12, 2024 01:25 PM (guGkK)

7 Hot girls are waiting for you to destroy your computer

Posted by: Miona at October 12, 2024 01:30 PM (S09Jr)

8 “I'm so glad I live in a world where there are Octobers.”
~ L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables


Well me too as it's my birthday month!

Posted by: Ciampino - October should be the 8th month at October 12, 2024 01:31 PM (qfLjt)

9 I picked my red cayenne, shishito and saved seed peppers yesterday, and put them in the countertop dryer to dry. They are making the house smell spicy.
When they are dry I will grind them to powder in the blender, and I suspect when I am done with this final batch I will have most of a quart jar of chili powder. The rest I will pick when we get the first frost and I will ferment those like sauerkraut to make hot sauce.

Last week I picked a bunch of marigold blossoms to dry and store for tea.
I also picked my Indian corn and cut down the stalks. I am letting the winter squash get a bit more weathered before I cut them off the dead vines.
My late season beans are smothering out the other weeds, and my winter rye is sprouting wonderfully in another garden, both are a fall and winter cover crop.
I planted my garlic so we will see how that turns out. I have had bad luck with garlic, I can't seem to get it big, this year I am going to go out when the rains start to do some fertilizing.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2024 01:35 PM (D7oie)

10 Why do I think L.M. Montgomery never had to rake leaves?

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2024 01:36 PM (fwDg9)

11 that reminds me, I need to figure out where to put my next compost heap. I usually start off with turning the old one and putting leaves on the next layer. I may switch that up though. If I shift the pile before the rains start it is lighter.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2024 01:41 PM (D7oie)

12 Orange ent:

Goat manure.

We used that this year and, well....
Harvest:
50 cantaloupe
5 lbs garlic
5 gallons jalepeno peppers
100 lbs tomatoes
2 gallons sweet peppers
Too many cucumbers
Still pulling broccoli
Watermelon(they were ok, but notsweet. That experiment is over.)

The goat manure produced results I'd never seen before in a garden.

Posted by: Derak at October 12, 2024 01:50 PM (+1spz)

13 The butterflies are Queen butterflies.

Posted by: Bob at October 12, 2024 01:50 PM (YiqZD)

14 The goat manure produced results I'd never seen before in a garden.
Posted by: Derak at October 12, 2024 01:50 PM (+1spz)
Now imagine what you’d get with an elephant

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:01 PM (o2ZRX)

15 More specific...

That was from 9 -8x4 raised beds.

I have gardens in a few different places. All said, I ended up with 28 boxes of tomatoes... I'd say 300 lbs.
I pulled before the first frost and they are ALL turning red. I've been processing tomato puree for weeks now.

What to do with 5 gallons jalepeno peppers? I was baffled why I'd grow so much just to spice up some chili......and then I learned of jalepeno poppers. I never heard of them. I do a quite a bit of jalepeno jelly but that's too much jelly.

So I got a whack of cream cheese, bacon bits and shredded chador, mixed it up, sliced the jalapeños ilenghtwise and deseeded (warno: HAZMAT OPERATION). And stuffed them with the mix. Placed on trays individually and flash froze. Then stacked between parchment paper in a big Tupperware box like thingy., kept frozen.
100 or more halves.

Every night since , we pull out a dozen, into oven at 400 for 25 minutes . Zesty! Youza. Bounty!

Posted by: Derak at October 12, 2024 02:02 PM (+1spz)

16 I now have 5 old pipes I have restored. Going to smoke one now, then make plans to build a pipe rack. Glad I took up the hobby again. Very relaxing and satisfying. Especially when there's vodka invloved.

Also, makes for fun hunting at garage sales. I missed getting an old pipe in a leather case by an hour at an estate sale.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:08 PM (QlX+9)

17 Good afternoon, Greenies! An absolutely gorgeous fall day here, not a cloud in the sky.

All I have are a few hot peppers in my community garden plot, and a 'mater plant with pearl-sized tomatoes that is more of a "weed that won't die" as opposed to a producer.

At this point I am just in seed saver mode. Scofflaw that I am, I plucked a sweet-hot cherry pepper from a neighboring plot (forbidden fruit is delicious!) for the seeds. My habanada wasn't that prolific but their milder habanero taste was a winner. Def will plant more next year.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Cat Slave at October 12, 2024 02:10 PM (kpS4V)

18 16 I now have 5 old pipes I have restored. Going to smoke one now, then make plans to build a pipe rack. Glad I took up the hobby again. Very relaxing and satisfying. Especially when there's vodka invloved.

Also, makes for fun hunting at garage sales. I missed getting an old pipe in a leather case by an hour at an estate sale.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:08 PM (QlX+9
‘You study long, you study wrong.’
- a thing Pappy Eromero said

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:11 PM (o2ZRX)

19 You study long, you study wrong.’
- a thing Pappy Eromero said

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:11 PM (o2ZRX

While he smoked his pipe? I like it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:14 PM (QlX+9)

20 Cannibal Bob, I just assumed you carved your own Meershawms out of the femurs of your dinner guests. And maybe made the occasional skull bong.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Cat Slave at October 12, 2024 02:16 PM (kpS4V)

21 Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:11 PM (o2ZRX

While he smoked his pipe? I like it.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:14 PM (QlX+9
It was usually when young Eromero pondered a thing too long.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:18 PM (o2ZRX)

22 Cactus fence: great, but not for my climate.

High winds + trees: across the road from me is a wooded lot. So far, the owner uses it and has no intention of selling. If he does, the tree-clearing better include the tall, top-heavy poplar. It sways like a metronome in every storm. perhaps the only thing keeping it up in wind are its roots intermingling with oaks' and maples'.

I'm sorry to read OrangeEnt's garden woes. I thought mine was bad!

The mutant acorn squash is now in a gourd shape and yellow. There's a small zucchini that may or mayn't be growing. Will pluck both before the first frost.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 12, 2024 02:30 PM (3lQDs)

23 Cannibal Bob, I just assumed you carved your own Meershawms out of the femurs of your dinner guests. And maybe made the occasional skull bong.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Cat Slave at October 12, 2024 02:16 PM (kpS4V)

Lol. With a hope and a prayer I posted 4 nice tires for any old pipes on a local Facebook page. A young gal asked if I would take old weed pipes and bongs. Because she cracked me up, and gave me a blast from the past, a offered her the tires for free.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:31 PM (QlX+9)

24 C-Bob, for instance, if you run across an abacus at a sale, buy it. Next person come along might know what the damn thing is.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:31 PM (o2ZRX)

25 It was usually when young Eromero pondered a thing too long.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:18 PM (o2ZRX)

Sounds like you're a deep thinker Eromero. That has never been my problem.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:33 PM (QlX+9)

26 I love dahlias, but the soil here is infested with dahlia-eating monsters. The first photo is the color I grew.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 12, 2024 02:33 PM (3lQDs)

27 Derak at October 12, 2024 02:02 PM

Wow!

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2024 02:34 PM (xekrU)

28 Bob at October 12, 2024 01:50 PM

I thought they were Queens, too.

The plants look like tall ageratum, but I'm not sure.

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2024 02:36 PM (xekrU)

29 From Boise area: Highs 75-88 F, lows 48-55. Temperatures due to drop hard this coming week. I've brought my large rosemary plant in for the winter.

Harvested those purple sweet potatoes earlier this week, mostly skinny roots. Will start my own slips next year. The last 4 bags of fingerlings gave us those photo'd 27 pounds, for a total harvest of about 54 pounds. Would have been more, but for all the green ones at the tops of bags (now future seed potatoes), and all the ones damaged by burrowing critters. I've stored them all in 4 air rifle boxes from our juniors program.

All tomatoes have slowed to near-nothing, so whatever reds we've frozen will become sauce later this month (we already canned one batch). Even the zucchini are slowing down! Will need to grate up whatever is left when I cut down the plant. I'm now drying the last parsley, basil, and oregano.

Since there's no fruit crop, all that's left is garden cleanup, enjoying the marigolds and nasturtiums until the frost gets them, and writing down any lessons learned before we forget them!

Connectivity sketchy next week.

Posted by: Pat* at October 12, 2024 02:37 PM (/oPwD)

30 I would like to attract owls to our property. May build a house like that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:41 PM (QlX+9)

31 C-Bob, for instance, if you run across an abacus at a sale, buy it. Next person come along might know what the damn thing is.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2024 02:31 PM (o2ZRX)

Lol. I'm old so I do know. Never used one though.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2024 02:43 PM (QlX+9)

32 Thanks, Derak. I have raised beds, but a small yard. Can't plant that much.

I'll buy some 10-10-10 fertilizer for next year too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 12, 2024 03:06 PM (0eaVi)

33 I would like to attract owls to our property. May build a house like that.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Cast bird seed around the place and put out a water dish or two.
We have quail, dove, owls, javalina, packrats, mice and yesterday a bobcat.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2024 03:07 PM (DSRy7)

34 Careful puttering around the yard in Florida, you may brush up against a Puss Caterpillar.

https://tinyurl.com/2vuwak6t

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2024 03:25 PM (/U5Yz)

35 Pat* at October 12, 2024 02:37 PM

Thanks for the great roundup.

I grew purple-skinned sweet potatoes one year and got mostly skinny ones, too.

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2024 03:25 PM (xekrU)

36 Haven't seen a hummingbird since October 9th. Until this morning, when I found a partially eaten one on the screen porch. So sad.

It was likely Della. She prefers flying things. He must have gotten stuck and confused.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 12, 2024 04:00 PM (w6EFb)

37 OrangeENT, some years are just bad years. We had one, too. Squash same as yours. Last year we were inundated and the plants were enormous.

My tomatoes started rotting on the vine, so I cut away the bad parts and cut them into pieces for freezing. I figured I'd do my canning when the crop was done. I had freezer bags full of San Marzanos for whole tomatoes.

Then came Helene. I was lucky to save enough for 8 pints of marinara.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 12, 2024 04:06 PM (w6EFb)

38 OrangeENT, some years are just bad years. We had one, too. Squash same as yours. Last year we were inundated and the plants were enormous.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 12, 2024 04:06 PM (w6EFb)

I switched beds for the tomatoes this year. It wasn't as deep, so I'll switch back and deepen the other beds. I just think it might have been the Miracle-Gro soil. The stuff started to grow, then seemed to give up. I'll add other stuff next time. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 12, 2024 04:36 PM (0eaVi)

39 OrangeEnt: We live in northwest Phoenix area, and the same things happened with our vege planters this year. Lost everything for the same reasons your stuff all died. Last year we had tomatoes, peppers, squash, eggplant, beans, and peas, among other things, lots of apples and crabapples. This year hardly any fruit or figs. Gardening goes in cycles, hopefully next year will be better. Just about ready to put my winter garden in this week…

Posted by: Nan in cool AZ at October 12, 2024 05:35 PM (0JYNQ)

40 Orangeent, maybe you should get a spoil sample analyzed. There is something lacking in your soil. I know that the zucchini got yellow at the end because the soil lacked calcium caused blossom rot.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at October 12, 2024 08:05 PM (hM+Ep)

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