Monday Overnight Open Thread (10/7/24)

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The Quotes of The Day

Quote I
“The Attorney General is hiring two attorneys who are going to work full time on this, and they’re going to be taking people who have these huge sums, and they’re going to take them to court,” D.C. Council member Charles Allen.

Quote II
"How can we start owning our own narrative? What can we do to start building us forward and bringing people out who have been discouraged by crime or whatever the reasons are that they don't come out and patronize businesses as much anymore?" Charlese Banks, owner of The Town Experience

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While North Carolinians were suffering from Hurrican Helene's killer rain. Willie Brown's slut was making word salads on a podcast.

MUST LISTEN: Kamala Harris Admin ARRESTED a man for bringing helicopter full of supplies to Hurricane Helene victims
“There was a man that took off yesterday in his helicopter to go up in the mountains to drop off food. He landed and got arrested and said he was interfering with a government operation, but there's no operations going on.”
“I'm currently in Asheville, North Carolina with my company doing disaster security for a dialysis company, and we're also doing search and rescue for patients to bring them to dialysis so they don't die.

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What good is diversity when everything it touches turns to shit?

NASA pushes discrimination to favor minorities in its education workshops
“Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!” A NASA press release today proudly touted what it called a “Culturally Inclusive Planetary Engagement in Colorado,” one of a series of recent science/education workships designed specifically to help “black and Latinx youth and their families.”
Though the events are apparently not segregated, it also appears that white and Asian kids and their parents were not really welcome.
Planetary scientists and engineers from Boulder, as well as scientists from Florida, Maryland, and Alaska participated. ReaCH partnered with the Boys & Girls Clubs of Metro Denver, whose staff participated in the workshop to share their perspectives. Other educators local to the Denver area also participated, along with an educational specialist from NASA@ My Library (another Science Activation program). The workshop culminated in an event at the Shopneck Boys & Girls Club in Brighton, CO; workshop participants facilitated a variety of hands-on planetary activities for approximately 120 children. Workshop participants also shared information about college pathways into science professions with teenagers at the Club.

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I'm glad that Elon Musk is on our side. He gets it.

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An amazing feat pulled off by Israel. It is a longer read, but quite interesting. Thank goodness they didn't run this across the blabber mouths in the White House.

TEL AVIV — In the initial sales pitch to Hezbollah two years ago, the new line of Apollo pagers seemed precisely suited to the needs of a militia group with a sprawling network of fighters and a hard-earned reputation for paranoia.
The AR924 pager was slightly bulky but rugged, built to survive battlefield conditions. It boasted a waterproof Taiwanese design and an oversized battery that could operate for months without charging. Best of all, there was no risk that the pagers could ever be tracked by Israel’s intelligence services. Hezbollah’s leaders were so impressed they bought 5,000 of them and began handing them out to mid-level fighters and support personnel in February.
None of the users suspected they were wearing an ingeniously crafted Israeli bomb. And even after thousands of the devices exploded in Lebanon and Syria, few appreciated the pagers’ most sinister feature: a two-step de-encryption procedure that ensured most users would be holding the pager with both hands when it detonated.
As many as 3,000 Hezbollah officers and members — most of them rear-echelon figures — were killed or maimed, along with an unknown number of civilians, according to Israeli, U.S. and Middle Eastern officials, when Israel’s Mossad intelligence service triggered the devices remotely on Sept. 17.

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A Deep State uses bureaucrats to control their ~~citizens~~ indentured servants. If they don't want you to eat meat. By God, you will not be allowed to eat meat.

Dozens of Meat Processing Plants Expected to Shut Down Under New EPA Rules
EPA touts rules as necessary to control contamination from wastewater, while critics say the rules go too far and exemplify federal overreach.

Food prices—especially meat and poultry—have skyrocketed in the past four years and could be exacerbated further next year when new EPA rules for meat processors go into effect.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Food Price Outlook for September reported that beef and veal prices had increased for six straight months, and predicted they will rise 5.2 percent overall in 2024. Poultry prices also rose, although by a smaller percentage, and are expected to rise more before year’s end.
The report traced the rise to factors including pandemic-related supply chain disruptions and the worst inflation since the 1980s.
Next year could see still higher meat and poultry prices at the grocery store, analysts say. That’s because an Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposal is expected to put some meat processors out of business, resulting in potential job losses and supply chain disruptions.

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And here I thought printing trillions of dollars with nothing to back them up caused inflation. Looks like I need to go back to school or something.

Government wants to rename “inflation” to “heat-flation” so they can blame rising prices on climate change.
The Trudeau government cabinet wanted to rename “inflation” to be called “heat-flation” in order “to persuade Canadians to associate the rising cost of living with climate change”.
According to Blacklocks Reporter, The Privy Council Office convened a focus group in April (taxpayer funded, obviously) in order to test out the labels ‘climate-flation’ and ‘heat-flation’.

Quite a few similarities with a former ruler of Cuba. IYKWIMAITYD

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The ONT Musical Interlude & Suit Case Emporium

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Pansies and Genius Award Winners.

8 hikers violate trail closure, get "too tired" to continue, and call mountain rescue – now they face up to $25,000 in fines

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The smarmy smugness of this man oozes from every pore.

Former Obama adviser David Axelrod implied that “liberal voters” in Asheville, North Carolina, would “figure a way to vote,” despite the damage from Hurricane Helene, while Trump voters would not.
During an episode of the podcast Hacks on Tap, Axelrod spoke about Hurricane Helene and how places such as Asheville, in western North Carolina, had been affected by heavy rainfall and flooding, noting that there was “a lot of displacement” as a result.

Hopefully a date with Karma will help with his condition.

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1 It is an ill wind...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 07, 2024 10:00 PM (hOUT3)

2 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 07, 2024 10:00 PM (oLpJM)

3 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (WXNFJ)

4 That's where MisHum buries the bodies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (kpS4V)

5 hello friends!

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (xJEPL)

6 Top 5?

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (vJiyU)

7 classic

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la legge e uguale per tutti at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (qfLjt)

8 Well done, Hrothie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (kpS4V)

9 If it weren't for those pesky kids....

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (vJiyU)

10 Hola chucks y chucas

Posted by: Guzano at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (qGAAh)

11 Good evening horde. Nice to see flamethrower schoolbus snow removal in action.

Posted by: TRex at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

12 Ha ha!
Top 100 ?

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:02 PM (psdlK)

13 2 Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 07, 2024 10:00 PM (oLpJM)

Hope you had a nice day yesterday Nurse.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:03 PM (QXQ4l)

14 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Ultimate Snow Removal Machine.

Nobody makes fun of the kids on that short bus.

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:03 PM (DgGvY)

15 (willowed)

Ventusky, Milton...

https://tinyurl.com/ze7ec6tk

Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:03 PM (i0F8b)

16 It would be supercoolio to have a Viking dragonboat on wheels with that flamethrower feature blasting out of the dragon's maw! And also Metal, of course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:03 PM (kpS4V)

17 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.

Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:05 PM (i0F8b)

18 "What can we do to start building us forward and bringing people out who have been discouraged by crime"

Is that a trick question?

Posted by: Ripley at October 07, 2024 10:05 PM (PTDkx)

19 4 That's where MisHum buries the bodies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (kpS4V)

After scorching them with his snowplow/flamethrower...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (ynpvh)

20 "The Ultimate Snow Removal Machine."

I seem to recall that being in a "Top Gear" show one time

Posted by: javems at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (8I4hW)

21 Bed time, y’all. Have a great night!

Posted by: Piper at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (pZEOD)

22 Thanks for the dandy ONT, Mis Hum!

Lovely photo up top and nice tune behind it.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (CiNoz)

23 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Ultimate Snow Removal Machine.

When you're on a frozen lake, is that wise?

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (lCA8w)

24 The Trudeau government cabinet wanted to rename “inflation” to be called “heat-flation” in order “to persuade Canadians to associate the rising cost of living with climate change”.

"America's Hat" is a dunce cap.

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (DgGvY)

25 It was very quiet.

Thank you, MisHum.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 07, 2024 10:07 PM (L5lT6)

26 Yo, Adrienne!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:07 PM (JkO4W)

27 We removed snow with a combine equipped with a flamethrower in Norway on Top Gear. Some called it the snowbine. We called it the Dominator. How hard can it be?

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at October 07, 2024 10:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

28 Is that a "Not a flamethrower?"

BBQ for dinner!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 07, 2024 10:08 PM (L5lT6)

29 Next year could see still higher meat and poultry prices at the grocery store, analysts say. That’s because an Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposal is expected to put some meat processors out of business, resulting in potential job losses and supply chain disruptions.

Anyone know if certain meat processors would like to make some EPA-branded Soylent Green?

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:08 PM (DgGvY)

30 And here I thought printing trillions of dollars with nothing to back them up caused inflation. Looks like I need to go back to school or something.

Econ textbooks until 2021: The government spending money it doesn't have causes inflation

Now: Inflation is a random thing that just happens. Because of...climate change

Posted by: Mayorkas at October 07, 2024 10:09 PM (oZhjI)

31 "Next year could see still higher meat and poultry prices at the grocery store, analysts say."

No shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:09 PM (i0F8b)

32 17 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.
Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:05 PM (i0F8b)

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*hic*

Posted by: The Yucatan Peninsula at October 07, 2024 10:11 PM (3iMA8)

33 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Ultimate ~~Snow~~ EPA[/b[ Removal Machine.

Go big, EPA, and preserve your emails.

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:11 PM (lCA8w)

34 Sigh...

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:11 PM (lCA8w)

35 Who doesn't like a yellow school bus with a flamethrower?

Posted by: fd at October 07, 2024 10:11 PM (vFG9F)

36 Well, dang...
Plenty of stuff to piss me right the fvck off tonight...just exactly what I probably didn't need 😠

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:11 PM (psdlK)

37 Evenin'

David Axelrod, never letting a crisis go to waste. He's a slimeball in a sea of puss.

The EPA needs to be dissolved, with lots of napalm.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (sAmhv)

38 Axlerod is right. Democrat voters always find a way to vote. Even if they’re dead.

Posted by: Sebation Melmoth at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (D6PGr)

39 31 "Next year could see still higher meat and poultry prices at the grocery store, analysts say."

I can't afford the grocery prices now. We need Trump back in the White House.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (xJEPL)

40 "Next year could see still higher meat and poultry prices at the grocery store, analysts say."

People get paid big money to come up with these brilliancies.

Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (i0F8b)

41 23 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Ultimate Snow Removal Machine.

When you're on a frozen lake, is that wise?
Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (lCA8w)

Probably not. I know I wouldn't drive it out on the lake let alone start melting ice for the drinks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (QXQ4l)

42 19 4 That's where MisHum buries the bodies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:01 PM (kpS4V)

After scorching them with his snowplow/flamethrower...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2024 10:06 PM (ynpvh)

Smo-o-o-o-o-oke on the water!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:12 PM (kpS4V)

43 17 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.
Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:05 PM (i0F8b)

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Where is this Milton?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at October 07, 2024 10:13 PM (3iMA8)

44 The Tampa area has always been an evacuation nightmare scenario waiting to happen.

Simpson and Rhiel in their book The Hurricane and its Impact devotes Chapter 14 to a fictional Hurricane Helen striking near Clearwater on Oct 10.

The book was published in 1981 by LSU Press.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2024 10:13 PM (yrMbv)

45 Sorry I'm late, somebody tried to pack the Neapolitan ice cream with the strawberry in the middle. Arson was my only recourse.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 07, 2024 10:13 PM (in+I1)

46 Very nice music under the top pic, Mis Hum. To the right side of that version was the same song by the Everly Brothers while they were Marines. It is also very well done. Thanks!

Posted by: LRob in OK at October 07, 2024 10:14 PM (TSQkU)

47 >17 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.

Yoiks.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at October 07, 2024 10:14 PM (i0F8b)

48 Hopefully a date with Karma will help with his condition.

In the form of a free one-way helicopter ride to a tiny, tiny town somewhere in west NC?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 07, 2024 10:14 PM (FnneF)

49 Evening everyone, thx MisHum. Harris seeing a yellow school bus with a flamethrower attached would give her an epic big O

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (ULt7M)

50 Famous quotes from history:

US General Douglas MacArthur wades ashore onto the Philippine island of Leyte, fulfilling his promise to return to the area he was forced to flee in 1942.

Trump says he will return to Butler PA after the shooting,

Tim Walz says he will return to the Buffet for seconds....

Posted by: Franklin Stein at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (Mig/N)

51 I watched the video of Elon with Tucker.
The man has been completely black-pilled in the last decade.

I believe that having his son go transgender is what finally broke Musk from the liberal mindset he was also in for much of his life.

That's when the Elon we see now started.
And then Twitter banned Babylon Bee and the rest is history.

I recommend the Tucker interview. It's almost two hours long but it was very interesting to listen to Elon explain why he's now "All In" on Trump. The discussion on the future of A.I. at the end is fascinating.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (6ydKt)

52 I wish I could have some ice cream but I was getting too fat and now I have to subsist on peanut butter and candy corn.

Posted by: fd at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (vFG9F)

53 Smug guy at work got his new vanity plate for his leased electric subie...NOPTRL.

REally? About to run out and tape a Got Coal? to the back

Posted by: a dude in MI at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (+I6Y/)

54 A new social media campaign was launched on Friday with the hope of drawing more people back to Oakland.

The "Oakland Is Better In Person" campaign hopes to change the narrative, highlight the city's culture and businesses, and promote why it's a beautiful place to live, work and visit.

Oakland is a shithole.

It has always been a shithole.

It will always be a shithole.

Anyone who lives there should move.

And I should know. I lived in one of the best neighborhoods in Oakland, and it was a shithole!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 07, 2024 10:16 PM (d9fT1)

55 Government wants to rename “inflation” to “heat-flation”

Is that really the best Newspeak they could come up with?

How far we've fallen from the brilliance of "funemployment."

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:16 PM (DgGvY)

56 NHC is now reporting a possible tropical storm forming, 20%, between Miami and the Bahamas in the next 48 hours.

We should be seeing an update with NHC in the next hour.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2024 10:16 PM (yrMbv)

57 I read a few Portland "progressives" on X - the kind of people who seriously think that Trump will become a dictator if he wins.

When Kamala was first selected, they were absolutely giddy - "Brat!", "America's Dad!", and all the rest.

Lately, they have been vewy, vewy, quiet.

But now, there is new hope! The hope is that Milton will devastate Florida, making DeSantis and the Republicans look bad, and making this a "climate change election".

One quoted the loathsome Bill McKibben:

Prediction: after Helene and Milton, this is going to be in no small part a climate election.

#HarrisWalz2024 is not perfect on this issue, but they are a hundred times better than #TrumpVance2024

Vote for survival, solidarity, and solar

If you look at the responses to this Tweet, McKibben still hates nuclear, and is still making excuses for China (which is opening two new coal plants a week).

"China is installing lots of renewables!" "Per-capita CO2 emissions in China are less than here!"

It's interesting how China (which puts out more CO2 than the European Union and the United States combined), always gets a pass from Western environmentalists.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:16 PM (uxCna)

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“Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!” A NASA press release today proudly touted what it called a “Culturally Inclusive Planetary Engagement in Colorado,” one of a series of recent science/education workships designed specifically to help “black and Latinx youth and their families.”

Will they be fitted with their white robes and hoods before they meet to elect their Grand Elf?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:17 PM (qpP0t)

59 FORCED!

...to deal with things that made me late to the ONT. But not terribly late.

Howdy, y'all. Sorry for the noise. The Belgian Malinois is exercising her right to bark incredibly loudly at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: mindful webworker - here me now and belief me ladle at October 07, 2024 10:17 PM (yP/rv)

60 Anyone whoever tried to melt snow with a blowtorch knows how futile that can be.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:18 PM (ZO20Q)

61 44 The Tampa area has always been an evacuation nightmare scenario waiting to happen.

Simpson and Rhiel in their book The Hurricane and its Impact devotes Chapter 14 to a fictional Hurricane Helen striking near Clearwater on Oct 10.

The book was published in 1981 by LSU Press.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Yea, loved the area when I lived there but glad no hurricanes hit. It may have changed since I lived there (90s) but the roads weren't ready for the population increase. I'm guessing that's worse now. Evacuation should be happening now.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 07, 2024 10:18 PM (sAmhv)

62 Agree, CBD. I was around Oakland back in the mid-70s and it was first of all a dangerous place and second not very friendly to those of us with a military connection.

Posted by: LRob in OK at October 07, 2024 10:18 PM (TSQkU)

63 NHC is now reporting a possible tropical storm forming, 20%, between Miami and the Bahamas in the next 48 hours.

We should be seeing an update with NHC in the next hour.
Posted by: Anna Puma

This will be the hardest the climate change cultist will get in their lifetime.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:19 PM (vJiyU)

64 I'm pretty sure that jacked up short bus flame thrower was designed by DARPA to help Democrats deal with subpoenas.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 07, 2024 10:19 PM (pIfcn)

65 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.
Posted by: davidt

I'm looking at the current weather in Merida, and it looks pretty tame. I don't get it. Raining a little, 30 mph winds.

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:19 PM (AGNk7)

66
workships designed specifically to help “black and Latinx youth and their families."

Should that be Africanx?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 10:19 PM (63Dwl)

67 Smug guy at work got his new vanity plate for his leased electric subie...NOPTRL.

REally? About to run out and tape a Got Coal? to the back
Posted by: a dude in MI

Does he have one of those "UK" oval stickers, too?

We call it "gas" here, ya douche.

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:20 PM (DgGvY)

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57 I read a few Portland "progressives" on X - the kind of people who seriously think that Trump will become a dictator if he wins.

When Kamala was first selected, they were absolutely giddy - "Brat!", "America's Dad!", and all the rest.

Lately, they have been vewy, vewy, quiet.

But now, there is new hope! The hope is that Milton will devastate Florida, making DeSantis and the Republicans look bad, and making this a "climate change election".

From keyboard warriors to Keyboard Klimate Scientismists!

Truly, our betters are all marvels!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:21 PM (qpP0t)

69 But now, there is new hope! The hope is that Milton will devastate Florida, making DeSantis and the Republicans look bad, and making this a "climate change election".

One Portland "progressive" continues to Tweet about the upcoming devastation - he can't hide his excitement.

His Tweet, followed by a retweet:

"There it is again, that funny feeling"

8PM EDT: This is nothing short of astronomical. I am at a loss for words to meteorologically describe you the storms small eye and intensity. 897mb pressure with 180 MPH max sustained winds and gusts 200+ MPH. This is now the 4th strongest hurricane ever recorded by pressure on this side of the world. The eye is TINY at nearly 3.8 miles wide. This hurricane is nearing the mathematical limit of what Earth's atmosphere over this ocean water can produce.

I wonder how many times he came.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:21 PM (uxCna)

70 Listening to Gentilly Junior on WWOZ, so I can't listen to the linked music right now. Guy is a national treasure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:21 PM (ZO20Q)

71 The current joker movie blows and Joachin has lumps in weird places.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 07, 2024 10:22 PM (Z8Yh2)

72 I wonder how many times he came.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:21 PM (uxCna)

And swallowed.

Yeah, I did write that out loud.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:22 PM (QXQ4l)

73 71 The current joker movie blows and Joachin has lumps in weird places.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 07, 2024 10:22 PM (Z8Yh2)

What you talkin bout willis?!

Posted by: Lump of Fetterman at October 07, 2024 10:23 PM (+I6Y/)

74 If you look at the responses to this Tweet, McKibben still hates nuclear, and is still making excuses for China (which is opening two new coal plants a week).

"China is installing lots of renewables!" "Per-capita CO2 emissions in China are less than here!"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:16 PM (uxCna)

Does this idiot know what per capita means? Does he know the populations of China and the US? Idiots are leading other idiots (LIVs) over the cliff.

Posted by: Gref at October 07, 2024 10:23 PM (aBgBM)

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If you look at the responses to this Tweet, McKibben still hates nuclear, and is still making excuses for China (which is opening two new coal plants a week).

Their economy is supposed to crash any day now.
At least that has been the prediction for x years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 10:24 PM (63Dwl)

76 How does thst schoolbus work on hornets' nests?

Posted by: tankdemon at October 07, 2024 10:25 PM (in+I1)

77
With her recent pronouncements professing her burning desire to slap some truly harsh censorship measures on the American public, seeing Shrillary go down in flames for a second time when Red Kammie and Timpon screw the pooch will make things all the sweeter.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:25 PM (qpP0t)

78 Willie Brown's slut was making word salads on a podcast.

That reminds me.. some Moron posted a link to
Kamala Word Salad Generator
https://kamalawordsaladgenerator.com

"Enter the topic you would like Kamala to babble on about:" I tried
SPACE EXPLORATION

The result was far too coherent to be Kamala.

Space exploration, it is about exploring the space, the vastness of the cosmos, where we venture into the unknown, you know, the stars and the galaxies. It's about reaching for the stars, literally and figuratively, because when we explore the space, what we do is we explore the possibilities, and the possibilities are endless, ok?... (more)

Posted by: mindful webworker - word salad with cretons at October 07, 2024 10:25 PM (yP/rv)

79 Their economy is supposed to crash any day now.
At least that has been the prediction for x years.

Just ask Gordon Chang.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:26 PM (uxCna)

80 There is a large number of WW2 badasses that cheated on the eye exams to get in. It's kind of funny.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 07, 2024 10:26 PM (Z8Yh2)

81
The EPA claims to have regulatory jurisdiction over The Meat Juices of the United States. This includes gravy.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 07, 2024 10:27 PM (t1fZA)

82 52 I wish I could have some ice cream but I was getting too fat and now I have to subsist on peanut butter and candy corn.

Posted by: fd at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (vFG9F)

Ummm, I think you're doing it wrong . . .

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 10:28 PM (Yt3ED)

83 52 I wish I could have some ice cream but I was getting too fat and now I have to subsist on peanut butter and candy corn.
Posted by: fd at October 07, 2024 10:15 PM (vFG9F)

Is the candy corn there as an emetic?

Posted by: tankdemon at October 07, 2024 10:28 PM (in+I1)

84 81
The EPA claims to have regulatory jurisdiction over The Meat Juices of the United States. This includes gravy.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 07, 2024 10:27 PM (t1fZA)

Beef or chicken?

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:28 PM (xJEPL)

85 Gorgeous picture - looks like Hope County Montana (I've been goofing off on Far Cry 5).

Posted by: 496 at October 07, 2024 10:28 PM (t+VLa)

86 If you hate nuclear. you are not serious about climate change.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at October 07, 2024 10:28 PM (hftn9)

87 The commies are getting more shrill by the day. Guess this is for all of the marbles?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (mH6SG)

88
There is a large number of WW2 badasses that cheated on the eye exams to get in. It's kind of funny.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen

There was probably a lot of cheating on both sides of the equation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (63Dwl)

89 “The Tesla Model 3 electric four-door 4WD, a midsize luxury car, had the lowest whole vehicle theft claim frequency at just 1% of the all-passenger-vehicle average.”

The study found that the six models with the lowest frequency of theft were:

Tesla Model 3 electric 4dr 4WD
Tesla Model Y electric 4dr 4WD
Tesla Model 3 electric 4dr
Hyundai Tucson Hybrid 4dr 4WD
Volvo XC90 4dr 4WD
Ford Mustang Mach-E 4dr 4WD

Posted by: SMOD at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (GITLP)

90 It ha to be galling for Hills to be passed over first by the likes of that empty vessel Obama, and then by idiots like Biden and Kamala.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (kpS4V)

91 There is a large number of WW2 badasses that cheated on the eye exams to get in. It's kind of funny.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 07, 2024 10:26 PM (Z8Yh2)

My father was of a prime age to be drafted for WWII, but he lost a kidney to tuberculosis as a young man, so was exempt. But he built tail sections of PBY's in the Being factory in Vancouver, so he did his part.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:30 PM (ZO20Q)

92 90 It ha to be galling for Hills to be passed over first by the likes of that empty vessel Obama, and then by idiots like Biden and Kamala.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (kpS4V)

She had her shot and she blew it.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:30 PM (xJEPL)

93 No carbon emmisions. Incredibly effective energy producer. Greenie weenies are border line insane. Cannot respect them. Completely obsessed and delusional.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at October 07, 2024 10:31 PM (hftn9)

94 That Yellow Bus Snow Remover could be used as a freeway unblocker for "Stop Oil" idiots, pro-pali disgraces and BLM pieces of excrement. Also a deterrent against car-jackers similar to the South African lateral BBQ or braifleis.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la carne arrostita sul carbone e piu buona at October 07, 2024 10:31 PM (qfLjt)

95 "Enter the topic you would like Kamala to babble on about:" I tried
SPACE EXPLORATION

The result was far too coherent to be Kamala.
Posted by: mindful webworker

I had much better luck (treehouses);

When we talk about treehouses, we're really talking about progress. We're talking about innovation. It's about imagination and the essence of climbing, of pursuing, tree after tree, progress and innovation. Treehouses, like progress, positioned high. Ok? Let me be clear, the nature of the treehouse, like the progress of a nation, is inherently connected to a larger vision.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 10:31 PM (WXNFJ)

96 It ha to be galling for Hills to be passed over first by the likes of that empty vessel Obama, and then by idiots like Biden and Kamala.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

She needs to consider the joy it has brought me.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (vJiyU)

97 I think an AI would have a nervous breakdown trying to replicate Kamala's word salad

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (ULt7M)

98 She had her shot and she blew it.
Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:30 PM (xJEPL)

curiously enough, so did Kammie

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (ZO20Q)

99 Willis Augustus ("Ching") Lee, probably the foremost US Navy gunnery guru of WWII, cheated on an eye exam during his Academy days, according to the bio I'm reading. He had friends "pass him the answers" in terms of reading the different lines on the chart, and passed.

And he was an Olympic shooting medalist. Weird.

A visitor to a museum where I once volunteered said that when Ted Williams went back in for Korea, they were using a new-fangled vision evaluation machine of some sort. He said Ted scored the highest ever seen on the thing. Plausible, anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (GcNJ2)

100 100

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:33 PM (xJEPL)

101 Of course - Milton will get the full Katrina treatment - with Republicans in charge, any problems with disaster relief will be shouted to the heavens by the Establishment Media.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:33 PM (uxCna)

102 81
The EPA claims to have regulatory jurisdiction over The Meat Juices of the United States. This includes gravy.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 07, 2024 10:27 PM (t1fZA)

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Have you ever read the definition of "waters of the United States" under the Clean Water Act (as judicially construed)? It probably does include gravy.

It' obscenely ridiculous.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:34 PM (3iMA8)

103 Of course - Milton will get the full Katrina treatment - with Republicans in charge, any problems with disaster relief will be shouted to the heavens by the Establishment Media.

Katrina: Its all the president's fault how dare you racists blame the local officials.

Milton: its all the governor's fault how dare you racists blame the president.

Posted by: Mayorkas at October 07, 2024 10:34 PM (oZhjI)

104 96 It ha to be galling for Hills to be passed over first by the likes of that empty vessel Obama, and then by idiots like Biden and Kamala.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

She needs to consider the joy it has brought me.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (vJiyU)

***SNORT***

Hillary will never be POTUS. And that still brings a smile to my face.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:35 PM (QXQ4l)

105 The 1935 Sept Labor Day Hurricane that devastated the Keys had a pressure reading of 892mb.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2024 10:35 PM (yrMbv)

106 built to survive battlefield conditions
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... breathe... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (DDSgs)

107 What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)

108 There are a number of reasons I am glad I don't live in Florida, among them being sinkholes and alligators, but none as big a deterrent as hurricane evacuations. It might be better to ride out the storm in a cinderblock house.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (xJEPL)

109 >>> 104
==
Hillary will never be POTUS. And that still brings a smile to my face.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:35 PM (QXQ4l)

*curses*

*throws bottle*

Posted by: Hillary! at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (FnneF)

110 105 The 1935 Sept Labor Day Hurricane that devastated the Keys had a pressure reading of 892mb.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2024 10:35 PM (yrMbv)

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Metric or Imperial?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (3iMA8)

111 A visitor to a museum where I once volunteered said that when Ted Williams went back in for Korea, they were using a new-fangled vision evaluation machine of some sort. He said Ted scored the highest ever seen on the thing. Plausible, anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (GcNJ2)

I think Chuck Yeager had a similar off the charts vision

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (hOUT3)

112 Snow removal machine also removes zombies and vampires

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (OTdqV)

113
From the "Sure Oakland Sucks, But It Doesn't Blow" article (second quote):

"I do believe that we are poised for a rebound, and in a major way," said Mauton Akran, who's part of the UDCBD. "So, it is important that the business owners, residents alike, anyone who has a vested interest in seeing Oakland be successful really take up the mantel."

"Mauton Akran"?
Seriously?

"... take up the mantel"
I had never heard that Oakland was renowned for its many, many fireplaces.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (qpP0t)

114
Have you ever read the definition of "waters of the United States" under the Clean Water Act (as judicially construed)? It probably does include gravy.

________

In The Big Rock Candy Mountains
You never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol
Come a-trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats
And the railroad bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew and of whiskey, too
You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (BkEzK)

115 91 There is a large number of WW2 badasses that cheated on the eye exams to get in. It's kind of funny.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 07, 2024 10:26 PM (Z8Yh2)

My father was of a prime age to be drafted for WWII, but he lost a kidney to tuberculosis as a young man, so was exempt. But he built tail sections of PBY's in the Being factory in Vancouver, so he did his part.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:30 PM (ZO20Q)

Mine was a bit old for combat, was drafted at the age of 33 and trained to work on B-17's. I had an uncle who was working as a machinist in a factory doing war production, and was given a draft exemption because he was considered critical to the war effort. He wound up enlisting anyway and served in the Navy.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (Yt3ED)

116 Hillary will never be POTUS. And that still brings a smile to my face.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at October 07, 2024 10:35 PM (QXQ4l)

Well now, the election hasn't happened yet. Harlot/Coward could go walking in Ft Marcy park, MisHum.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (0eaVi)

117 Dozens of Meat Processing Plants Expected to Shut Down Under New EPA Rules

These kinds of regulations are always implemented with horrible immediacy and no consideration for circumstances, benefiting only the wealthy and connected.

It's like laws that suddenly are passed requiring handicap ramps, facilities, or parking spaces.

That these things be required on new constructions might be relatively reasonable, but requiring existing businesses to comply should be coupled with lenient timetables, and account for financial burdens imposed, including financial assistance if the demand is that important and immediate. (Not that I like throwing tax dollars after bad regulations.)

Of course, that's my fantasizing those from the government are there to help, really. As if. BOO!

Posted by: mindful webworker - witches and vampires at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (yP/rv)

118 Trump doing a rally in California

👀

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (wGun1)

119 The Yucatan peninsula must be getting hammered by Milton.

Posted by: davidt at October 07, 2024 10:05 PM (i0F8b)
---

All this over a stapler...

Posted by: Axeman at October 07, 2024 10:38 PM (OaZlZ)

120 A nuke in a hurricane is a fart.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 07, 2024 10:38 PM (yrMbv)

121 What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)

Probably nothing at all?

Best chance, maybe? Drop a big-ass nuke into deep water a mile or two ahead of the hurricane's projected track. Bring cold water to the surface and starve it of energy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:39 PM (ZO20Q)

122 Shut Down Under New EPA Rules
And under what legal authority are these new rules promulgated? None, you say, other than you've been "put in charge" of that sort of thing? Poppycock.

Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (DDSgs)

123 "... take up the mantel"
I had never heard that Oakland was renowned for its many, many fireplaces.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (qpP0t)

mantle = cloak

mantel = shelf above a fireplace

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (xJEPL)

124 I like twitter now that Musk owns it, but there is still a lot of garbage posts there. I just saw one “Harris now predicted to win Nevada!” So I looked at it wondering what their methodology was , and found that they predict elections based on Vedic Asroligy.
Riiigggghhhhtttt….

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (S6gqv)

125
What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)

_________

Admit it. You just want to detonate a nuke.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (BkEzK)

126 90 It ha to be galling for Hills to be passed over first by the likes of that empty vessel Obama, and then by idiots like Biden and Kamala.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 07, 2024 10:29 PM (kpS4V)

There is a simple reason Obama didn't select Hillary as his veep- He wanted to be alive on January 20, 2013.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (in+I1)

127 nuke in a hurricane would disperse radiation hither and yon. no thanks.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (xJEPL)

128 There is a large number of WW2 badasses that cheated on the eye exams to get in. It's kind of funny.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen

My brother in law wouldn't have passed the eye test without correction. He memorized the eye charts and bluffed his way into West Point, and then the 82nd Airborne and then as a Blackhawk driver for the 160th Special Operations Air Regiment.

Hell of a man! Only shot down twice.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (WXNFJ)

129
... built to survive battlefield conditions
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... breathe... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: GWB

It is most amusing to imagine all the HezHeads holding their pagers in both hands to look at their screens overhead like kids shaking their Etch-a-Sketches to erase the last drawing and then, BLAMMO!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (qpP0t)

130 Best chance, maybe? Drop a big-ass nuke into deep water a mile or two ahead of the hurricane's projected track. Bring cold water to the surface and starve it of energy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:39 PM (ZO20Q)

----------

Big-ass? Tsar Bomba big-ass?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (3iMA8)

131 I proudly rode the short bus to school every day, but don't remember any flame thrower.

Posted by: Special Edward at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (CV8a5)

132 107
'What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? '

Suddenly I need to know this. Why are we pissing money away on climate change research and global plagues when we could be nuking hurricanes? I admire this spirit of inquiry.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 07, 2024 10:42 PM (3wi/L)

133 Admit it. You just want to detonate a nuke.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (BkEzK)

Is that a bad thing, now?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:42 PM (ZO20Q)

134 Admit it. You just want to detonate a nuke.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I have several targets in mind.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:42 PM (vJiyU)

135 'What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ?

No.

Posted by: Dr No at October 07, 2024 10:42 PM (oZhjI)

136 Admit it. You just want to detonate a nuke.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (BkEzK)

a small one

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:42 PM (V13WU)

137
The energy in the wind an average hurricane is about half that of the worldwide electricity generation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:43 PM (BkEzK)

138 I like the idea of dropping a nuke in the path of the hurricane, to cool down as is were.

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:44 PM (V13WU)

139 99 Willis Augustus ("Ching") Lee, probably the foremost US Navy gunnery guru of WWII, cheated on an eye exam during his Academy days, according to the bio I'm reading. He had friends "pass him the answers" in terms of reading the different lines on the chart, and passed.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:32 PM (GcNJ2)

When I took my pre-enlistment physical, they somehow determined that I was colorblind (I'm not), but didn't tell me at the time. At the end of basic training I found out that my alleged colorblindness limited the technical schools I could be sent to. I managed to convince them that I'm not actually colorblind, and was retested, passed, and got the school I wanted. Still don't know how that happened.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 10:44 PM (Yt3ED)

140 How many people in the so-called "Biden Administration" could authorize the launch of a nuke? 10? 50? Is anyone even keeping track anymore?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:44 PM (3iMA8)

141 but none as big a deterrent as hurricane evacuations.

People are heading out already. Traffic is slow or stop and go for 120 miles on northbound I-75.

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:44 PM (tvIQJ)

142 Okey dokey you guys....
Tomorrow morning I get to donate a boob to the cancer gods...
Of course, there are many more lovely morons who have been through at least worse, so I'm not here to whine. Just diggin' some support😘
If anyone can spare it though, a small prayer would be so appreciated. Love you guys, and I hope to be back soon!
COMM

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (psdlK)

143 It is most amusing to imagine all the HezHeads holding their pagers in both hands to look at their screens overhead like kids shaking their Etch-a-Sketches to erase the last drawing and then, BLAMMO!

If you were conscientious, and immediately checked the message, it went off next to your face.

If you weren't conscientious, and didn't immediately checked the message, it went off next to your balls.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (uxCna)

144 100 100
Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:33 PM (xJEPL)

Well played!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (Aqu9a)

145 Posted by: mindful webworker - witches and vampires at October 07, 2024 10:37 PM (yP/rv)

Hotel pools all need to now have Hoists, so handicapped people can use the pools.

These are way expensive... and I've asked at multiple hotels I've stayed at, and NOT A SINGLE ONE had ever been used, as they are too much of a pain.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 07, 2024 10:46 PM (QAkQ3)

146 Nobody makes fun of the kids on that short bus more than once

Posted by: Chuck C at October 07, 2024 10:46 PM (yOPBE)

147 107 What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)

Nothing, other than wasting a perfectly good nuke. The amount of energy already in a hurricane is many orders of magnitude greater than the largest nukes.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 10:46 PM (Yt3ED)

148 Ok, we need to detonate a hydrogen bomb in the path of the hurricane. More powerful than atomic.

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:46 PM (V13WU)

149 Posted by: COMountainMarie

Heartfelt prayers for you.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:46 PM (vJiyU)

150 Cicero, vegetable in chief has to authorize nuke use. Can be in the form of an order granting authority to lower commanders making tactical decisions, but has to start or be approved at the top in some way.

"National Command Authority". Once an impressive, intimidating term. Now, like almost everything else, a head-shaking farce.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:47 PM (GcNJ2)

151
The Yankees lost to the Royals, 4-2. The series is tied 1-1.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:47 PM (BkEzK)

152 Okey dokey you guys....
Tomorrow morning I get to donate a boob to the cancer gods...
Of course, there are many more lovely morons who have been through at least worse, so I'm not here to whine. Just diggin' some support😘
If anyone can spare it though, a small prayer would be so appreciated. Love you guys, and I hope to be back soon!
COMM
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (psdlK)

Two boobies or one, or none at all, you are still a Grade A sweetheart, COMM!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:47 PM (ZO20Q)

153 138 I like the idea of dropping a nuke in the path of the hurricane, to cool down as is were.
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:44 PM (V13WU)

dude! REALLY???

Posted by: Flipper, swimmin under the Huricane. at October 07, 2024 10:47 PM (QAkQ3)

154 BOING!

5:45AM. Slept better than I thought I would. However it seems that our pups and grandpups in Tel Aviv didn't:

https://tinyurl.com/mrw4m7ye

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (xIFh6)

155 Love ya Rat!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (psdlK)

156 Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (psdlK)

Prayers up for you from here.
May your surgeon be skilled and your recovery quick and easy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (hOUT3)

157 How many people in the so-called "Biden Administration" could authorize the launch of a nuke? 10? 50? Is anyone even keeping track anymore?

Anyone who reads Joe's sticky note on the football.

Posted by: t-bird at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (tvIQJ)

158 Prayers, COMountainMarie

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (xJEPL)

159 It's a funny feeling when you evacuate. Look around and think, wonder if all this will be here when we get back? Will the neighbor's tree be through the roof?

Posted by: Leavin'? No, Namaste at October 07, 2024 10:49 PM (CV8a5)

160 If anyone can spare it though, a small prayer would be so appreciated. Love you guys, and I hope to be back soon!
COMM
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Prayers up!

Posted by: mikeski at October 07, 2024 10:49 PM (DgGvY)

161 AOP! You always have the nicest things to say😜

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:49 PM (psdlK)

162 To my disappointment, apparently there was no humorous content for the message in Grim Beeper. Reportedly it was legit-sounding, "you have received a secure message from Hezbollah HQ" (something like that). Also think to retrieve messages, 2 buttons had to be pushed. In this case,, those buttons = BLAMMO.

(my favorite message idea was "Surprise!", but there were many other great ones)

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (GcNJ2)

163
Best wishes, COMM. I think all the Morons would agree that boobs are overrated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (BkEzK)

164 Big prayers for you COMountainMarie !

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (WXNFJ)

165 Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (psdlK)

Prayers up for you from here.
May your surgeon be skilled and your recovery quick and easy!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 07, 2024 10:48 PM (hOUT3)

Piling on in agreement. Amen.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (Aqu9a)

166 125
What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)
_________

Admit it. You just want to detonate a nuke.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:40 PM (BkEzK)

Who doesn't?

Posted by: Ayatollah of Rock-n-rollah at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (Yt3ED)

167 {{{Marie}}} Right back at you kiddo!

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (vJiyU)

168 AOP! You always have the nicest things to say😜
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:49 PM (psdlK)

You going to be at Corsicana? Hugs on tap, one-sided, two sided, whatever.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:51 PM (ZO20Q)

169 I think all the Morons would agree that boobs are overrated.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:50 PM (BkEzK)

You misspelled 'underrated'.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2024 10:51 PM (Aqu9a)

170 Besides nuking the storm, you could do so nukular fishin'.

Posted by: Apples, Make Applesauce at October 07, 2024 10:51 PM (CV8a5)

171 150 Cicero, vegetable in chief has to authorize nuke use. Can be in the form of an order granting authority to lower commanders making tactical decisions, but has to start or be approved at the top in some way.

--------

Boy. You have more faith in the command structure than I do. I tend more toward t-bird's sticky note theory.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:52 PM (3iMA8)

172 128

My brother in law wouldn't have passed the eye test without correction. He memorized the eye charts and bluffed his way into West Point, and then the 82nd Airborne and then as a Blackhawk driver for the 160th Special Operations Air Regiment.

Hell of a man! Only shot down twice.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 10:41 PM (WXNFJ)

Phhht. Piker.

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at October 07, 2024 10:52 PM (Yt3ED)

173 Good evening morons and thank you mh

It seems as if every story in tonight's ONT is a tale of a government increasingly at war with it's subjects.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2024 10:52 PM (zG664)

174 You got this, COMM.

And you have my prayers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 07, 2024 10:52 PM (OHB4a)

175 A 30KT underwater test was conducted 500 miles southwest of San Diego in 1955. Operation Wigwam - so, it was not only SCARY and stuff, it was RACIST!

Of course back then watching surface tests at the Nevada Test Site was a social activity in Las Vegas.

Amurrika. When men were men.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:53 PM (GcNJ2)

176 Best of luck, CMM. I hope to see you back in our disgusting little clique as soon as possible.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:53 PM (3iMA8)

177 Best wishes, COMM. I think all the Morons would agree that boobs are overrated.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Asked a friend who had undergone a mastectomy what I could do to help.
"Flirt with me often and with vigor."

Posted by: Some Rat at October 07, 2024 10:53 PM (vJiyU)

178 166 125
What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner
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Interesting experiment. It would have to be small enough that the fallout would not be harmful. Something like a Davy Crockett?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 10:53 PM (57fs2)

179 170 Besides nuking the storm, you could do so nukular fishin'.
Posted by: Apples, Make Applesauce at October 07, 2024 10:51 PM (CV8a5)

Do you want Godzilla wreaking havoc? Because that's how you get Godzilla wreaking havoc.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (in+I1)

180 AOP I soooo wish I could make Corsicana!
Unfortunately I'll still be going through much more cancer treatment...but, lift a drink to me if you think of it...
I'll sure be missing you all...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (psdlK)

181 125
What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner
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You'll poke your eye out

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (xJEPL)

182 t's a funny feeling when you evacuate. Look around and think, wonder if all this will be here when we get back?

Sorry, we had to bulldoze your place. Trust us, it was bad. We'll pay you $750 for it...

Posted by: FEMA at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (yYWHi)

183 Cicero I have 0.0 confidence in any of it now. Just giving the paper answer. Though unlike the other now broadening depredations committed by the cretins in guvamint, the nuke one requires more hoop-jumping all along the chain, which would be considerable friction for any funky stuff.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (GcNJ2)

184
Nuking hurricanes has actually be studied. Remember back when they used to have ideas like that in the 50s, like using nukes for civil engineering purposes and all that.

Nuking a hurricane, even with a few Tsar Bombas wouldn't do jack squat to spot the hurricane, and probably would intensify it.

And then you have a freakin' hurricane spewing fallout all over the place.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (w6EFb)

185 Boy. You have more faith in the command structure than I do. I tend more toward t-bird's sticky note theory.

I'll just leave this here:

Remember all those cold war movies where nuclear missile crews are frantically dialing in the secret codes sent by the White House to launch nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles? Well, for two decades, all the Minuteman nuclear missiles in the US used the same eight-digit numeric passcode to enable their warheads: 00000000.
---
And while Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara directly oversaw the installation of PALs on the US-based ICBM arsenal, US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (uxCna)

186 If anyone can spare it though, a small prayer would be so appreciated. Love you guys, and I hope to be back soon!
COMM
Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 10:45 PM (psdlK)

No small prayers here COMM.
You got this. God Bless and hurry back!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (W/lyH)

187 Interesting experiment. It would have to be small enough that the fallout would not be harmful. Something like a Davy Crockett?
Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 10:53 PM (57fs2)

Seriously, hurricanes derive their energy from the evaporation of warm surface waters. Drop a bunch a small nukes in their projected line of travel, convect up the colder deep waters, and starve them out. Fizzle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (ZO20Q)

188 Prayers for you, your family and the medical squad, Marie. Remember, God holds you in His hands.

Posted by: LRob in OK at October 07, 2024 10:57 PM (TSQkU)

189 Wonder how the sportfishing off San Diego was in 1955 after that nuke test? According to 50s/60s sci-fi flicks, it would be something like "hey Hal, look, I landed a 900-pound yellowfin!".

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 10:57 PM (GcNJ2)

190 US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.

But I'm sure they wouldn't do anything like that now.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (uxCna)

191 >>>Just diggin' some support. COMM
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You get support, best wishes, and prayers too.
We'll be waiting to hear from you.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (57fs2)

192 Nuking hurricanes has actually be studied. Remember back when they used to have ideas like that in the 50s, like using nukes for civil engineering purposes and all that.

Nuking a hurricane, even with a few Tsar Bombas wouldn't do jack squat to spot the hurricane, and probably would intensify it.

And then you have a freakin' hurricane spewing fallout all over the place.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (w6EFb)

I recall a SciFi story that involved bored civil engineers proposing as a joke to use nukes for urban renewal projects. It got passed along and approved.

The story was in the format of letters / memos exchanged.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (Aqu9a)

193 190 US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.

But I'm sure they wouldn't do anything like that now.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (uxCna)

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Of course not. Now they're all PASSWORD

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (3iMA8)

194
Look around and think, wonder if all this will be here when we get back?

_________

Your property will be considered abandoned. Squatters will move in. Law enforcement not only will not help you expel them, they will harass you for trying to reclaim ownership.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (BkEzK)

195 And while Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara directly oversaw the installation of PALs on the US-based ICBM arsenal, US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (uxCna)

That’s the code an idiot would put on their luggage!

Posted by: President Skroob at October 07, 2024 10:59 PM (S6gqv)

196 COMountainMarie, praying for ya

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2024 10:59 PM (J5RCE)

197 184

Nuking a hurricane, even with a few Tsar Bombas wouldn't do jack squat to spot the hurricane, and probably would intensify it.

And then you have a freakin' hurricane spewing fallout all over the place.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 10:55 PM (w6EFb)

And Godzilla. Don't forget about Godzilla.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 10:59 PM (Yt3ED)

198 AOP is correct. I believe the (latest) ridiculously incorrect climate cult forecast was for a record hurricane season (which it hasn't been, and won't be). Oddly enough, windy conditions in the Atlantic/South Atlantic - wind always causes upwelling of colder waters - resulted in a bupkis season, up til now. Almost - almost - as if human activity and historically mild changes have no effect on such things.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 11:00 PM (GcNJ2)

199 I'll just leave this here:

Remember all those cold war movies where nuclear missile crews are frantically dialing in the secret codes sent by the White House to launch nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles? Well, for two decades, all the Minuteman nuclear missiles in the US used the same eight-digit numeric passcode to enable their warheads: 00000000.
---
And while Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara directly oversaw the installation of PALs on the US-based ICBM arsenal, US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (uxCna)

That's the same code as my luggage!

Posted by: President Skroob at October 07, 2024 11:00 PM (Aqu9a)

200 Seriously, hurricanes derive their energy from the evaporation of warm surface waters. Drop a bunch a small nukes in their projected line of travel, convect up the colder deep waters, and starve them out. Fizzle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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That's the analytical way to neutralize it. Think of the fishes.
Drop 'em 'round the eye ring and watch what happens.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:01 PM (57fs2)

201 Almost - almost - as if human activity and historically mild changes have no effect on such things.

We've had accurate records of hurricanes hitting the continental United States since the 1850s.

No change in either the number or intensity of hurricanes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 11:02 PM (uxCna)

202 Thanks so damn much to so many fantasticly awesome friends here!!!!
I honestly didn't know I had so many good morons who cared about me. I so love you all! Thanks again. I believe your love and prayers will get me through. As I go down with the anesthesia, you all will be who I'll be thinking about.
Gosh...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 11:03 PM (psdlK)

203 And while Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara directly oversaw the installation of PALs on the US-based ICBM arsenal, US Strategic Command generals almost immediately had the PAL codes all reset to 00000000 to ensure that the missiles were ready for use regardless of whether the president was available to give authorization.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (uxCna)
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Ah but the trick is how many zeros do you have to key in.

Nifty!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 07, 2024 11:04 PM (xIFh6)

204 200 Seriously, hurricanes derive their energy from the evaporation of warm surface waters. Drop a bunch a small nukes in their projected line of travel, convect up the colder deep waters, and starve them out. Fizzle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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Wouldn't it be funny if a bunch of WWII Japanese submarines floated to the surface?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 11:04 PM (3iMA8)

205 187

Seriously, hurricanes derive their energy from the evaporation of warm surface waters. Drop a bunch a small nukes in their projected line of travel, convect up the colder deep waters, and starve them out. Fizzle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 10:56 PM (ZO20Q)

I wonder how deep you would need to go to get water cool enough to have an effect in the Gulf of Mexico? The underwater Crossroads Baker test at Bikini threw up an impressive amount of water, but it was tiny compared to the size of a hurricane. Of course, that was a tiny nuke by today's standards, basically it was a Fat Man, around 20kt.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:04 PM (Yt3ED)

206 Operation Plowshare, 1950’s - a program intended to use nukes for peaceful purposes. One of the most notable proposals was a plan, completely worked out, to dig a sea level canal across Nicaragua by using a chained series of buried thermonuclear bombs set off simultaneously.

The engineering was brilliant; the plan fell apart when no one could convince Nicaragua why it was in their interest to allow about 1/3 of their country to be nuked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:05 PM (S6gqv)

207 DESERVE PEACE.
DEMAND FREEDOM.
A FREE PERSON SUPPORTING ctHARRIS IS NO BETTER THAN A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COL.SANDERS.

Remember who did this:
"Every aspect of our lives must be subject to an Inventory" -- Nancy Pelosi'07, while in Red China.

"This is where the FUN begins", CTHillary'16

A Free and Productive People have Absolutely Nothing to gain from WAR, and, in fact, a great deal to lose. WAR, in fact is only possible when the Wealth of the Nation is held by it's leaders rather than Rightly held and utliized by its citizens.

ctHARRIS: forWAR'd -- LIBs. What Price their Vision? They can (and will) change their Minds after they have your vote -- because some MUST be sacrificed so that 'they' may live -- that's how it works, that you exist with the hope that they eat you last.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at October 07, 2024 11:05 PM (3RrRN)

208 Why use a sledgehammer and an excavator to take down an old silo when you can nuke it instead?

Posted by: Cut-rate Demolition, Inc. at October 07, 2024 11:06 PM (CV8a5)

209 Its true the FNM will amplify the paid climate scientists, lol, more like paid hysterics saying that Helene plus Milton are proof of global warming. Aaaand in 2012 super storm Sandy was pitched as such and probably gave Barky a couple of extra points. I was bummed at the time, but in hindsight thank GOD almighty we didn't get Pres Romney with lying Ryan as VP.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 07, 2024 11:07 PM (CKOCg)

210 If every problem is a nail, the answer is always a hammer.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 11:07 PM (xJEPL)

211 The study found that the six models with the lowest frequency of theft were:

Tesla Model 3 electric 4dr 4WD
Tesla Model Y electric 4dr 4WD
Tesla Model 3 electric 4dr
Hyundai Tucson Hybrid 4dr 4WD
Volvo XC90 4dr 4WD
Ford Mustang Mach-E 4dr 4WD
Posted by: SMOD
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Why would anyone steal one?
Scrap value is literally less than zero. You have to pay someone to take it.
Most cars that are stolen for a cheap ride or parting out.

Until somebody establishes parts market (batteries, wink, wink(.... They are worthless.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2024 11:07 PM (/lPRQ)

212 Dunno how it's done now, but back when this was a country, the National Command Authority would work off the SIOP (Single Integrated Operational Plan), which had many variations and options ("Wing Attack, Plan R"). In the late 70s, following an NSC memo signed by Jimmuh, the SIOP was modified and expanded. Worked on this a little bit. Inside joke was that we were now adding "the milk kitchens"* to the target list. Or, more generally, finding ways to "make the rubble bounce higher".

* Soviet centers for feeding and assistance to mothers with infants and toddlers

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 11:07 PM (GcNJ2)

213 My understanding is that it would take a hydrogen bomb or 4 to break up a hurricane.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at October 07, 2024 11:08 PM (elaR+)

214 192

I recall a SciFi story that involved bored civil engineers proposing as a joke to use nukes for urban renewal projects. It got passed along and approved.

The story was in the format of letters / memos exchanged.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2024 10:58 PM (Aqu9a)

There were serious plans for using nukes to carve a sea level replacement for the Panama canal, and for making road cuts for the new-at-the-time Interstate Highway system in mountainous areas.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:08 PM (Yt3ED)

215 Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 11:03 PM (psdlK)
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I see you'll be going through what my mother went through when I was a teen. Her wish then was to live to dance at my wedding. She lived to a ripe old age and danced at our youngest son's Bar Mitzvah.

Prayers for a long healthy life of happiness and fulfillment. Appreciate every moment.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 07, 2024 11:08 PM (xIFh6)

216 A hurricane like Milton probably has the energy of a million nuclear bombs. One or two nukes won’t do shit to it,

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:09 PM (S6gqv)

217 Carlson asked Musk what would happen if Kamala were elected.

I'm f*cked, was his response.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:10 PM (57fs2)

218 A hurricane like Milton probably has the energy of a million nuclear bombs. One or two nukes won’t do shit to it,

...except make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Posted by: Milton at October 07, 2024 11:11 PM (uVcOS)

219 216 A hurricane like Milton probably has the energy of a million nuclear bombs. One or two nukes won’t do shit to it,
Posted by: Tom Servo
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But wouldn't it be fun to watch?
Film at 9.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:11 PM (57fs2)

220 217 Carlson asked Musk what would happen if Kamala were elected.

I'm f*cked, was his response.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:10 PM (57fs2)

We all are.

Posted by: ALH at October 07, 2024 11:11 PM (xJEPL)

221 Operation Plowshare, 1950’s - a program intended to use nukes for peaceful purposes. One of the most notable proposals was a plan, completely worked out, to dig a sea level canal across Nicaragua by using a chained series of buried thermonuclear bombs set off simultaneously.

The engineering was brilliant; the plan fell apart when no one could convince Nicaragua why it was in their interest to allow about 1/3 of their country to be nuked.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:05 PM (S6gqv)

The Spanish brought their galleons up the Rio San Juan to the big lake, Lago de Nicaragua (aka Cochibolco), and founded the city of Granada. At its westernmost point, in the south, Cochibolco is scarcely 15 miles from the Pacific Ocean, separated by a range of low hills. I have been there. You wouldn't have to nuke a third of the country. Less than a twentieth, by my estimate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:12 PM (ZO20Q)

222
I think figures quoted are a typical hurricane ( a monster like Milton would be a bit greater) are pumping energy at a rate of a megaton bomb going off every minute or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 11:12 PM (w6EFb)

223 218 A hurricane like Milton probably has the energy of a million nuclear bombs. One or two nukes won’t do shit to it,
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One thing for sure, if it maintains its strength and breadth it's going to rip the coast and more a new one.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:13 PM (57fs2)

224 206 Operation Plowshare, 1950’s - a program intended to use nukes for peaceful purposes. One of the most notable proposals was a plan, completely worked out, to dig a sea level canal across Nicaragua by using a chained series of buried thermonuclear bombs set off simultaneously.

The engineering was brilliant; the plan fell apart when no one could convince Nicaragua why it was in their interest to allow about 1/3 of their country to be nuked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:05 PM (S6gqv)

Project Gasbuggy - using nukes for fracking. Break up the gas bearing rock with a nuke, then drill into the resulting underground cavity to tap the gas. It was actually tested, I think somewhere in Colorado, problem being the resulting gas was somewhat radioactive, so the holes were capped and the gas never used.

That's gotta be a tree hugger's nightmare - fracking and nukes, all in one package!

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:14 PM (Yt3ED)

225 What would happen if we dropped a nuke in the middle of hurricane Milton ? will we kill it ? cause a rupture in the space time continuum ? what??
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 10:36 PM (V13WU)

My money is on the thermal updraft would enhance the hurricane.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2024 11:15 PM (/lPRQ)

226 A pebble can trip a horse. Problem is , America stopped thinking BIG, moved everything to China, and is now into services and adult toys like iPads.

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 11:15 PM (V13WU)

227 Project Gasbuggy - using nukes for fracking. Break up the gas bearing rock with a nuke, then drill into the resulting underground cavity to tap the gas. It was actually tested, I think somewhere in Colorado, problem being the resulting gas was somewhat radioactive, so the holes were capped and the gas never used.

That's gotta be a tree hugger's nightmare - fracking and nukes, all in one package!

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:14 PM (Yt3ED)

Some decent filtering would probably capture the radioisotopes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:16 PM (ZO20Q)

228 216 A hurricane like Milton probably has the energy of a million nuclear bombs. One or two nukes won’t do shit to it,
Posted by: Tom Servo
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But wouldn't it be fun to watch?
Film at 9.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:11 PM (57fs2)

And report on.

Posted by: Billy Sol Hurok, Farm Film Report at October 07, 2024 11:18 PM (Aqu9a)

229 212 Dunno how it's done now, but back when this was a country, the National Command Authority would work off the SIOP (Single Integrated Operational Plan), which had many variations and options ("Wing Attack, Plan R"). In the late 70s, following an NSC memo signed by Jimmuh, the SIOP was modified and expanded. Worked on this a little bit. Inside joke was that we were now adding "the milk kitchens"* to the target list. Or, more generally, finding ways to "make the rubble bounce higher".

* Soviet centers for feeding and assistance to mothers with infants and toddlers

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 11:07 PM (GcNJ2)

Every nuke needed a target, and at that time we had a lot of nukes. I remember reading that two lane bridges on dirt roads in deepest, darkest Siberia were targeted, because we had run out of better targets, and every nuke needs a target.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:18 PM (Yt3ED)

230 Dear Marie
Prayers for you, wisdom and skill for your surgeon, expertise and kindness for your caretakers.
You are precious to us!

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 07, 2024 11:19 PM (f+FmA)

231
You've probably seen that Kardashev civilization type based on the energy levels that can be harnessed and controlled: Type I, planetary energy level. Type II, stellar level energy, Type III, galactic energy level. Type III would be gods, basically. Type II would be Star Trek level.

Anyway, a Type I would theoretically be able to control the weather on their home planet. Now, just how you would go about that, I don't know, but if you can harness and control power levels on the order of the planet, you have enough to stop a hurricane. Or make it worse, or start one.

But we are still Type 0, and will be for some time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 11:20 PM (w6EFb)

232 He said Ted Williams scored the highest ever seen on the thing. Plausible, anyway.

One of the anecdotes I've heard about Williams' eyesight is that he came up to bat, called time, and told the home plate umpire that second base wasn't in the correct spot. They checked, and it was off by a couple of inches.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 07, 2024 11:21 PM (yOPBE)

233 This is short and funny: 5 Dumbest criminals

https://youtu.be/oP3eH88nHBI

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, i briganti piu stupidi at October 07, 2024 11:22 PM (qfLjt)

234 North Carolina Board of Elections unanimously approves resolution to modify voting locations for all 13 counties affected by Hurricane Helene

https://t.co/5aLegkJZGF

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e tutto bagnato at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (qfLjt)

235
The engineering was brilliant; the plan fell apart when no one could convince Nicaragua why it was in their interest to allow about 1/3 of their country to be nuked.
Posted by: Tom Servo

They could have made a kajillion dollars on tolls.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (63Dwl)

236 Well, my 99 Suburban is once again abandoned to the tender mercies of the shop in the next town. They will do a wheel alignment, and then "pass" the out-of-province inspection, presumably. I finished the doctoring of the major boo-boos in the paint, and installed the center console out of my other, crippled, 99 Suburban, so assuming it passes the inspection, which it damned well ought to, it will be my transport to Corsicana. Failing that, I will hang some new tires on the '08 Burb, and take it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (ZO20Q)

237 But we are still Type 0, and will be for some time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 07, 2024 11:20 PM (w6EFb)

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Meh. 200 years ago people believed that traveling overland at 30 mph would overwhelm the brain and drive a human mad.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (3iMA8)

238 Actually it wasn't so much of finding targets for all the warheads, it was giving the NCA more options and flexibility. NSC 59.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 07, 2024 11:25 PM (GcNJ2)

239 Meh. 200 years ago people believed that traveling overland at 30 mph would overwhelm the brain and drive a human mad.
*****
Well, hasn't it?

Posted by: Megthered at October 07, 2024 11:25 PM (Mgb19)

240 They could have made a kajillion dollars on tolls.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (63Dwl)

Sandinista president Daniel Ortega sold a concession to Chy-nah for building a sea level canal. Since Chy-nah controls the Panama canal now, it would never be acted upon, but it freezes others out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:26 PM (ZO20Q)

241 Idea for Trump to court animal activist and secure the vote of hunters. Say he's going to put a limit on hunting deer, bears, etc. but then open up an unlimited number of permits to hunt hamas supporters. It's a win-win.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 07, 2024 11:27 PM (gYJxr)

242 239 Meh. 200 years ago people believed that traveling overland at 30 mph would overwhelm the brain and drive a human mad.
*****
Well, hasn't it?

Posted by: Megthered at October 07, 2024 11:25 PM (Mgb19)

Communism did that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2024 11:27 PM (ynpvh)

243 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

https://mol.im/a/13933537

If you add "for many in Western Europe and N. America" then it may hold.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la Bibbia e fenomenale at October 07, 2024 11:28 PM (qfLjt)

244 Maybe it's just me but I would be inclined to refrain from using nukes to alter what is and always has been a natural phenomenon. Guess I'd sorta old-fashioned that way. *shrugs*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 07, 2024 11:28 PM (mH6SG)

245 Idea for Trump to court animal activist and secure the vote of hunters. Say he's going to put a limit on hunting deer, bears, etc. but then open up an unlimited number of permits to hunt hamas supporters. It's a win-win.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 07, 2024 11:27 PM (gYJxr)

I dunno. Deer, moose, and elk are yummy, and some folks like bear meat, too. Hamas-holes would likely be quite toxic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:28 PM (ZO20Q)

246
Meh. 200 years ago people believed that traveling overland at 30 mph would overwhelm the brain and drive a human mad.
Posted by: Cicero

And they were right!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:29 PM (63Dwl)

247 227 Project Gasbuggy - using nukes for fracking. Break up the gas bearing rock with a nuke, then drill into the resulting underground cavity to tap the gas. It was actually tested, I think somewhere in Colorado, problem being the resulting gas was somewhat radioactive, so the holes were capped and the gas never used.

That's gotta be a tree hugger's nightmare - fracking and nukes, all in one package!

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:14 PM (Yt3ED)

Some decent filtering would probably capture the radioisotopes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:16 PM (ZO20Q)

The solid stuff could be filtered, yeah. I don't know what radioactive gases might be created. I know fission reactors produce a radioactive Xenon isotope, 135Xe, but I don't know if a bomb also creates that, or other radioactive gasses and if so, how hard it would be to separate them.

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:29 PM (Yt3ED)

248 243 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

https://mol.im/a/13933537

If you add "for many in Western Europe and N. America" then it may hold.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, la Bibbia e fenomenale at October 07, 2024 11:28 PM (qfLjt)

It was made for repentant sinners; "Pastor" must not meet the criteria

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (ynpvh)

249 My very best moron pals! Time for sleep now. I love you all more than I can express! And thanks Mis.Hum. for all you share!
Good night loves! I hope to be back soon!

"The best bridge between despair and hope is a good night’s sleep"

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (psdlK)

250 There was a physical altercation between Jill and Kamala staffers in the White House after Joe’s press room last week, began with accusations that the Bidens were undermining Kamala deliberately, per WH official

https://tinyurl.com/5zbfbjhp

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, si sono presi a botte at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (qfLjt)

251 235
The engineering was brilliant; the plan fell apart when no one could convince Nicaragua why it was in their interest to allow about 1/3 of their country to be nuked.
Posted by: Tom Servo

They could have made a kajillion dollars on tolls.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:24 PM (63Dwl)

Somebody ride back and get a shitload of dimes !

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (Yt3ED)

252 Tonight's Las Cruces criminal artist brought to you by Jack Daniel's.

https://tinyurl.com/y4rc5r45

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (R+yH5)

253 Just drop a nuke on the areas affected by hurricane. This way the government can put the victims it's not gonna help out of their misery. Humanely. By governmental standards of humanity.

Posted by: tomorrow's solutions today at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (RIQol)

254 The solid stuff could be filtered, yeah. I don't know what radioactive gases might be created. I know fission reactors produce a radioactive Xenon isotope, 135Xe, but I don't know if a bomb also creates that, or other radioactive gasses and if so, how hard it would be to separate them.
Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:29 PM (Yt3ED)

They have filters now, molecular sieves, that can separate oxygen from nitrogen. Sieving Xe135 out from CH4 ought to be child's play. Now maybe some of the carbon becomes C14, but it's not exactly intensively radioactive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (ZO20Q)

255 252 Tonight's Las Cruces criminal artist brought to you by Jack Daniel's.

https://tinyurl.com/y4rc5r45

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:31 PM (R+yH5)

She looks like a sweetheart...
::: puts on glasses :::
oh, OH!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (ynpvh)

256 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

Think I'll pass.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (mH6SG)

257 250 There was a physical altercation between Jill and Kamala staffers in the White House after Joe’s press room last week, began with accusations that the Bidens were undermining Kamala deliberately, per WH official

https://tinyurl.com/5zbfbjhp
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore,
--------------------------

Video clips or it didn't happen. It's a myth.
Just like Kanala's cocaine in the cloak room.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:33 PM (57fs2)

258 How do you combat this?
More than a third of American Muslims say Hamas did not commit murder and rape on October 7 2023

https://mol.im/a/13933521

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti bugiardi at October 07, 2024 11:33 PM (qfLjt)

259 So I see the latest Project 2025 scare is that Trump is going to ban internet pron.

And I am amused because the same people tell me:

1) Trump is a sex fiend
2) That when europe put in restrictive new rules on pron is was good because yeah feminism.

Posted by: Dr No at October 07, 2024 11:33 PM (oZhjI)

260 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

Think I'll pass.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (mH6SG)

Any and all trannies have sold their souls to Satan, even if they don't know it yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:34 PM (ZO20Q)

261 How do you combat this?

The real answer? Round up everyone associated with funding/supporting Gaza and put them on trial for crimes against humanity.

Of course our government just pays them.

Posted by: Dr No at October 07, 2024 11:35 PM (oZhjI)

262 256 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

Think I'll pass.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (mH6SG)

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This wouldn't be Expert Theologist Cenk Uygur would it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 11:35 PM (3iMA8)

263 How do you combat this?
More than a third of American Muslims say Hamas did not commit murder and rape on October 7 2023

https://mol.im/a/13933521
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti bugiardi at October 07, 2024 11:33 PM (qfLjt)

Just (delete) them all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:36 PM (ZO20Q)

264 258 How do you combat this?
More than a third of American Muslims say Hamas did not commit murder and rape on October 7 2023

https://mol.im/a/13933521
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti bugiardi at October 07, 2024 11:33 PM (qfLjt)

I know how to combat it, not that hard really. But people get all funny when you say it out loud.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:36 PM (S6gqv)

265
Just drop a nuke on the areas affected by hurricane. This way the government can put the victims it's not gonna help out of their misery.

________

Out: Medical Assistance in Dying
In: Army Assistance in Dying

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2024 11:36 PM (BkEzK)

266 Meet the transgender pastor who says Bible 'wasn't written for 2024'

I mean its right. The Bible was written for all times.

And speaking of which, I remember when those crazy Bible Thumpers said alloweding gay marriage would lead to gays and pervs grooming children on the government dime. Wow where they crazy huh?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 07, 2024 11:36 PM (oZhjI)

267 Well, dinner is eaten. But there is a fresh bottle of rum to be sampled, to make certain it hasn't gone bad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:38 PM (ZO20Q)

268 I mean its right. The Bible was written for all times.

-----------

But not for Modern Audiences.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 11:38 PM (3iMA8)

269 Meme
SIGN
DO NOT PET
THE FART SQUIRRELS

(picture on sign is a skunk)

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono puzzolenti at October 07, 2024 11:40 PM (qfLjt)

270 258 How do you combat this?
More than a third of American Muslims say Hamas did not commit murder and rape on October 7 2023

https://mol.im/a/13933521
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore,
--------------------------------------

Deport them. If they own property, many are very enterprising, pay them for it then deport them. All. No re-admittance.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:40 PM (57fs2)

271 267 Well, dinner is eaten. But there is a fresh bottle of rum to be sampled, to make certain it hasn't gone bad.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:38 PM (ZO20Q)

----------

Lucky for you, sodomy and the lash are no longer part of the ritual.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2024 11:40 PM (3iMA8)

272 254 The solid stuff could be filtered, yeah. I don't know what radioactive gases might be created. I know fission reactors produce a radioactive Xenon isotope, 135Xe, but I don't know if a bomb also creates that, or other radioactive gasses and if so, how hard it would be to separate them.
Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:29 PM (Yt3ED)

They have filters now, molecular sieves, that can separate oxygen from nitrogen. Sieving Xe135 out from CH4 ought to be child's play. Now maybe some of the carbon becomes C14, but it's not exactly intensively radioactive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:32 PM (ZO20Q)

Interesting, I didn't know about molecular sieves that are that specific. Do they separate by mass, or by molecular size?

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:41 PM (Yt3ED)

273 COMountainMarie, prayers up for a smooth procedure and recovery. You have a lot of people concerned for you.

Biden's Dog, continued prayers for you and those dear to you; for any 'ron and 'ette in harm's way tonight.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at October 07, 2024 11:41 PM (Cu0iA)

274 One of the anecdotes I've heard about Williams' eyesight is that he came up to bat, called time, and told the home plate umpire that second base wasn't in the correct spot. They checked, and it was off by a couple of inches.
Posted by: Chuck C

One of my uncles was a pitcher for the Yankees and, after he retired from playing, stayed with the Yankees as a pitching scout. He claimed that Williams could 'read' the spin of the seams of the baseball as soon as it left the pitcher's hand so he knew how the pitch was going to behave almost immediately.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 11:42 PM (WXNFJ)

275 Any and all trannies have sold their souls to Satan, even if they don't know it yet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------------------

Let them choose a muhammadan big brother and deport them together.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 07, 2024 11:43 PM (57fs2)

276 The Bible is like the Constitution: we have to burn it to appease the new gods so they don't kill us.

Posted by: paganism has never been more fun at October 07, 2024 11:43 PM (RIQol)

277 Video clips or it didn't happen. It's a myth.
Just like Kanala's cocaine in the cloak room.
Posted by: Braenyard

Sorry, those tapes were wiped, like with a cloth.
-- White House Secret Service ham and eggers

Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2024 11:44 PM (WXNFJ)

278

Living Constitution
Living Bible

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:45 PM (63Dwl)

279 Interesting, I didn't know about molecular sieves that are that specific. Do they separate by mass, or by molecular size?

Posted by: BillyD at October 07, 2024 11:41 PM (Yt3ED)

Molecular size, I believe.

https://tinyurl.com/y6cmrtze

Tech has been around for a while. I remember seeing huge ones, driven by Diesel engines, making nitrogen for an underbalanced drilling job, back before 2000.

And I think similar filters are used for the "oxygen generators" now carried by so many folks with lung issues.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:46 PM (ZO20Q)

280 And, if there is any oxygen at all in the atmosphere of Mars, molecular sieves could concentrate it for human use, given enough energy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:48 PM (ZO20Q)

281 Milton has weakened some from the last update. Down to 165 mph winds and and pressure up to ,914 mbar.

Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at October 07, 2024 11:49 PM (w6EFb)

282 Thank you Mis. Hum!

Trumpy, our night cat is inside on the foot of my bed watching live videos of chipmunks and birds. We just finished 'Cannibal Holocaust (1980) which was supposed to be a deeply disturbing film.

Unless you've followed Islam for 23 years.

8.5 out of 10. Nice filmwork in the Amazon. It was a found footage horror movie so shaky and all over the place which I hate.

In a lot of these horror movies I've been watching, the main characters have been liberal douchebags. That's made it easier to get through the brutality. They've devolved into subhuman shitbags. I'm pretty indifferent to their torture and suffering.

And here we are.....

Everyone stay safe and try to find at least a minute of happiness tomorrow....somehow.

Posted by: Stateless at October 07, 2024 11:49 PM (jvJvP)

283 Got around to listening to the Mystery Click. Nice choice, MisHum!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:50 PM (ZO20Q)

284 I don't know squat about electricity but that has never stopped me.

For today's adventure I am looking at purchasing a 768 kwh battery power station which I want to plug into the AC outlet on my car so I can power a small refrigerator using pass through power when driving and the off the battery when camping.

Degree of difficulty: the AC outlet is capped at 100W and most likely 10 amp while the power supply pulls 250w when configured to its minimum setting.

Question: Will I blow up the car electrical system or will the battery just charge much slower? I am fine with slower charging. Not so fine with blowing up the car.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:51 PM (R+yH5)

285 AR924 or the formal name: Ass Reamer September 24th (they went off a few days early). Hezbollah fell for the old Smuckers ad campaign...with a name like Ass Reamer, it's got to be good!

Posted by: JTSmith at October 07, 2024 11:54 PM (1wsv4)

286 I lived through Michael, 10/10/18. Barrier island in the disaster zone. FL Governors know what to do, unlike the imbeciles in DC. Celebrating the misery of others in an attempt to make a political win is ghoulish and devoid of humanity, imo.

Posted by: EveR at October 07, 2024 11:54 PM (Z/h4+)

287 Molecular Sieves are engineered Zeolites

A Zeolite can occur naturally, being a mixture of Silicon, Aluminum and oxygen.
They can also be manufactured and artificially manipulated to create a solid with a very specific pore size, measured in Angstroms, or Nanometers.
These are then a molecular size, and work by size exclusion of gas molecules.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 07, 2024 11:54 PM (tjZg/)

288 275 Any and all trannies have sold their souls to Satan, even if they don't know it yet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

During 'Cannibal Holocaust' on FreebieTv, the only ad that showed up was for trannies in tech.

Seemed appropriate....

Posted by: Stateless at October 07, 2024 11:55 PM (jvJvP)

289 262

Cenk HAS been making a lot of leftwing noise the past few days: Trump is crazy. The Middle East would be peaceful but for the occupation. "Israel a victim? Hah! Hilarious!"

Posted by: mnw at October 07, 2024 11:55 PM (NLIak)

290 For today's adventure I am looking at purchasing a 768 kwh battery power station which I want to plug into the AC outlet on my car so I can power a small refrigerator using pass through power when driving and the off the battery when camping.

Degree of difficulty: the AC outlet is capped at 100W and most likely 10 amp while the power supply pulls 250w when configured to its minimum setting.

Question: Will I blow up the car electrical system or will the battery just charge much slower? I am fine with slower charging. Not so fine with blowing up the car.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:51 PM (R+yH5)

Well, your car doesn't have an AC outlet; it has a 12 volt DC outlet (cigar lighter socket), that at best can put out 20 amps at 12 volts, so 240 watts.

Buy a 3-way RV fridge. Runs off 12 volts while on the road motoring, and the alternator can keep up. Or 120 volts while "camped" in an RV park, or off propane, when "dry camping".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2024 11:57 PM (ZO20Q)

291 And, if there is any oxygen at all in the atmosphere of Mars, molecular sieves could concentrate it for human use, given enough energy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You could probably also do it by fractional distillation of the atmosphere gas. CO2 freezes out at a higher temperature than Oxygen, and nitrogen and Argon freeze out at a lower temperature than oxygen.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 07, 2024 11:58 PM (tjZg/)

292 "Hang Me in the Tulsa County Stars"
John Moreland

This is one of his signature songs and this performance is poetry.

https://youtu.be/7s-oZALFMZ8

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:58 PM (R+yH5)

293 Ugg, they're never going away...

@PopBase
Spirit Halloween will turn into Spirit Christmas at select locations this year after the Halloween season is over.

It will have Christmas decor, apparel, gifts, inflatables, stocking stuffers, and meet-and-greets with Santa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 07, 2024 11:59 PM (IG4Id)

294
Is Trumpy the cat named after the creature in Pod People aka Extra Terrestrial Visitors ?

https://t.ly/6iIGU

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2024 12:00 AM (63Dwl)

295 284 I don't know squat about electricity but that has never stopped me.

For today's adventure I am looking at purchasing a 768 kwh battery power station which I want to plug into the AC outlet on my car so I can power a small refrigerator using pass through power when driving and the off the battery when camping.

Degree of difficulty: the AC outlet is capped at 100W and most likely 10 amp while the power supply pulls 250w when configured to its minimum setting.

Question: Will I blow up the car electrical system or will the battery just charge much slower? I am fine with slower charging. Not so fine with blowing up the car.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 07, 2024 11:51 PM (R+yH5)

Hopefully the AC outlet is fused, and you blow the fuse rather than burning down the car. In either case, it won't work.

Aside from that, are you sure about the ratings of the power station? Charging a 768 kWh battery at 250W will take over 3,000 hours or around 18 weeks. Something sounds off. (Possibly my math, but I don't think so).

Posted by: BillyD at October 08, 2024 12:02 AM (Yt3ED)

296 A Zeolite can occur naturally, being a mixture of Silicon, Aluminum and oxygen.
They can also be manufactured and artificially manipulated to create a solid with a very specific pore size, measured in Angstroms, or Nanometers.
These are then a molecular size, and work by size exclusion of gas molecules.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 07, 2024 11:54 PM (tjZg/)

Zeolites are not "mixtures" they are minerals, and as such, are specific chemical compounds, with a known crystal structure. Most of them have a considerable amount of water of crystallization included in their structure. And their typical crystal habit includes lots of open space where ion exchange can happen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:02 AM (ZO20Q)

297
Re O2 on Mars. The Perseverance rover carried a little experiment called MOXIE, which was a proof of concept for O2 production by splitting CO2.

It worked nicely.

Now, Elon plans on other "in situ resource utilization" to make methane and O2 for rocket fuel for the return trip. You need to get water out of the ground, split it to H2 and O2, then combine the H2 and CO2 to make methane.

That gives you lots of O2 as well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 12:03 AM (w6EFb)

298 I believe if you look very, very closely, you can detect REALLY small straws in the wind which indicate that Trump has gained some momentum. Others must have noticed too, because...

the betting sites which RCP* monitors & aggregates have shifted since Sept. 20th, from Harris +4 to Trump 1.7.

*Real Clear Politics (RCP) website

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:04 AM (NLIak)

299 Buy a 3-way RV fridge. Runs off 12 volts while on the road motoring, and the alternator can keep up. Or 120 volts while "camped" in an RV park, or off propane, when "dry camping".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I have an ICECO portable refrigerator. and I currently use a 300w /250 whr battery that I plug into the car's AC outlet and the referig into the DC output on the battery. When driving the battery charges up and powers the refrig. When I dry land camp the battery powers the refrig for about 8 hours.

The exercise here is I would like to pick up a bigger battery so I can power the refrig for much longer when stopped. However the bigger battery draw more power when charging...

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:05 AM (R+yH5)

300 You could probably also do it by fractional distillation of the atmosphere gas. CO2 freezes out at a higher temperature than Oxygen, and nitrogen and Argon freeze out at a lower temperature than oxygen.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 07, 2024 11:58 PM (tjZg/)

That would work, for sure. But all a molecular sieve needs to work is a good pump. Pumps could be solar powered. Or maybe wind powered. Mars has high winds at times, I think. When you are making a valuable product that can be stored, intermittent power sources are not necessarily useless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:06 AM (ZO20Q)

301 Aside from that, are you sure about the ratings of the power station? Charging a 768 kWh battery at 250W will take over 3,000 hours or around 18 weeks. Something sounds off. (Possibly my math, but I don't think so).
Posted by: BillyD

Here is the specific battery.
https://www.bluettipower.com/products/ac70

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:06 AM (R+yH5)

302 What can we do to start building us forward and bringing people out who have been discouraged by crime

Prosecuting and punishing criminals?

Just a thought.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:06 AM (YqDXo)

303 Cannibal Holocaust is a weird one.

The westerners really ask for it. So they are unsympathetic even when the primitives torment them mercilessly.

Watched it on Joe Bob Briggs's show with his commentary. Apparently, the animals killed, like the turtle/tortoise, were really killed.

Posted by: some animals were harmed at October 08, 2024 12:07 AM (RIQol)

304 5-0 going into the Chefs' bye week.

Their win tonite was more convincing than the first 4, I thought.

I didn't bet this one because I didn't have a strong hunch about it.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at October 08, 2024 12:08 AM (NLIak)

305 301 Aside from that, are you sure about the ratings of the power station? Charging a 768 kWh battery at 250W will take over 3,000 hours or around 18 weeks. Something sounds off. (Possibly my math, but I don't think so).
Posted by: BillyD

Here is the specific battery.
https://www.bluettipower.com/products/ac70

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:06 AM (R+yH5)

Ok, that's 768 Wh, not kWh. That's more reasonable, charging-time wise, but still more charging power than you have available. I like AOP's three way RV refrigerator idea.

Posted by: BillyD at October 08, 2024 12:11 AM (Yt3ED)

306 The exercise here is I would like to pick up a bigger battery so I can power the refrig for much longer when stopped. However the bigger battery draw more power when charging...
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:05 AM (R+yH5)

Hence the 3-way fridge. Long periods off-grid? Run it on propane. They made kerosene-fueled fridges, too, you know. I saw one working, and it kept food nice and cold. You could probably run an absorption-type fridge off a solar concentrator, but it might be more trouble than than it's worth. Heat a brine to 300 degrees in a solar oven, circulate the hot brine to the absorption fridge, and once cooled, back to the oven.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:11 AM (ZO20Q)

307 Now, Elon plans on other "in situ resource utilization" to make methane and O2 for rocket fuel for the return trip. You need to get water out of the ground, split it to H2 and O2, then combine the H2 and CO2 to make methane.

No point. You might as well leave the H2 and O2 as is, and then recombine them, i.e., use them for energy storage. Converting them to methane needlessly wastes energy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:12 AM (YqDXo)

308 298 I believe if you look very, very closely, you can detect REALLY small straws in the wind which indicate that Trump has gained some momentum. Others must have noticed too, because...

the betting sites which RCP* monitors & aggregates have shifted since Sept. 20th, from Harris +4 to Trump 1.7.

*Real Clear Politics (RCP) website

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:04 AM (NLIak)

Why did Walz go on Fox? The only reason I consider possible would be because they are desperate to win Independents and believed he would have an easy interview which would accomplish that. That seems positive for PDT, too.

Posted by: EveR at October 08, 2024 12:12 AM (Z/h4+)

309
That MOXIE reaction is 2CO2 -> 2CO + O2. So CO is the waste product vented back to atmosphere.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 12:12 AM (w6EFb)

310 If it hasn't been mentioned, this nearly 2-hour interview with Elon by Tucker well worth the time. Link goes to X, fkat.

https://tinyurl.com/3d3vwuyj

Posted by: Philip at October 08, 2024 12:13 AM (Ap4Nn)

311 No point. You might as well leave the H2 and O2 as is, and then recombine them, i.e., use them for energy storage. Converting them to methane needlessly wastes energy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:12 AM (YqDXo)

Methane is a very handy fuel. Hydrogen alone has issues.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (ZO20Q)

312
They want to use methane for fuel rather than hydrogen is storage and handling. That more than makes up for the waste of making methane.

That's why SpaceX Raptor engines are methane fuel. Don't know all the details and constraints, but methane is what they've decided for Mars rocket fuel.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (w6EFb)

313 Ok, that's 768 Wh, not kWh. That's more reasonable, charging-. I like AOP's three way RV refrigerator idea.

Posted by: BillyD

Units matter in engineering. Sorry about that.

This battery will run/charge on 12V DC car power and pass through the power to the refrig. So the lesson here is use the 12 DC system, skip the AC outlet, and be happy. The charging will be slow but over the course of a few hours while drving I get most of what I need. It works well enough for what I need and I don't have to fuss with solar panels.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (R+yH5)

314 Why should black males vote for harris? Desatan in floriduh intimidates petition signers with his thugs who want to put abortion on ballot. In texas women are dying because they are having problems getting abortion. Over 50% more are dying. (abc news.) Yet biden is to scared to send in federal troops to protect them from rethugliKKKans. No wonder black and latinx men don't want 4 more years of the garbage and are voting third party or even dump!

Posted by: raimondo at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (nRick)

315 Living Constitution
Living Bible
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2024 11:45 PM (63Dwl)

Oddly, though, no Living Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:17 AM (YqDXo)

316 Probably at TuckerCarlson.com also.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:18 AM (57fs2)

317 Jill's and Kamala's staff fighting?

Posted by: See? Nobody cares. at October 08, 2024 12:18 AM (QSrLX)

318 Posted by: raimondo at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (nRick)

Huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:18 AM (YqDXo)

319 That MOXIE reaction is 2CO2 -> 2CO + O2. So CO is the waste product vented back to atmosphere.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 12:12 AM (w6EFb)

Carbon monoxide is a fuel gas in its own right. It was a major component of "producer gas" used in big cities until it was displaced by natural gas. But it will kill you dead, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:18 AM (ZO20Q)

320 Posted by: some animals were harmed at October 08, 2024 12:07 AM (RIQol)

Yeah. The ending. "Who are the true savages, them or us?"

Yeah, the Westerners deserved it. A few years ago, I'd think who would do stuff like that?

Today, I have a list of media people, tech, politicians, etc that I wish we could air drop to the cannibals.

Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 12:18 AM (jvJvP)

321 The exercise here is I would like to pick up a bigger battery so I can power the refrig for much longer when stopped. However the bigger battery draw more power when charging...
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:05 AM (R+yH5)

What about some kind of diesel-electric power unit on a trailer towed behind your vehicle? Big enough trailer to store the necessary jerry cans of diesel, maybe a fifth wheel size.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 08, 2024 12:19 AM (Aqu9a)

322 Navy Admiral John Aquilino before the House Armed Services Committee on March 20, 2024, repeatedly referenced the need to 'speed up' the U.S. defense effort in the Indo-Pacific, with China's military expanding on a 'scale not seen since WWII,' and growing cooperation between China, Russia and Iran setting up a new 'axis of evil.' Images: AP/Zuma Press
[Not the article, the video. A good listen]

https://tinyurl.com/4p6585mn

Decision superiority:
1 -Blind – prevent the adversary from being able to close their kill chains against our forces
2 -See – persistent awareness and understanding of everything in the battle space at every second – real time.
3 - Kill – networks and the effectors our weapons that allow me to deliver effects if tasked such that we can act and deliver those effects at speed well in advance of our adversary.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:19 AM (57fs2)

323 Methane is a very handy fuel. Hydrogen alone has issues.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:16 AM (ZO20Q)

So does gasoline, but ethanol is basically half-oxidized gasoline.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:21 AM (YqDXo)

324 308

Seems as if Harris/Walz are running a lot of anti-Trump ads aimed at Republican voters lately, featuring Mike Pence, Dick Cheney: "You can't trust Trump!" is the tagline on these.

The most expensive TV ads, by far, are NFL game spots. I can't say that Harris dominates these 10-1 because... I've never SEEN a Trump ad during an NFL broadcast. She dominates them 100-0.

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:21 AM (NLIak)

325 Hey, Altaria Pilgram here are the New Mexico drama queens:

https://tinyurl.com/249cjj92

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:22 AM (57fs2)

326 >>> 324 308

Seems as if Harris/Walz are running a lot of anti-Trump ads aimed at Republican voters lately, featuring Mike Pence, Dick Cheney: "You can't trust Trump!" is the tagline on these.

The most expensive TV ads, by far, are NFL game spots. I can't say that Harris dominates these 10-1 because... I've never SEEN a Trump ad during an NFL broadcast. She dominates them 100-0.

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:21 AM (NLIak)

istr Bernie ran ads thru an ad agency owned by Mrs Bernie, so they raked in a shitload of cash.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 08, 2024 12:23 AM (FnneF)

327 Hence the 3-way fridge. Long periods off-grid? Run it on propane. They made kerosene-fueled fridges, too, you know. I saw one working, and it kept food nice and cold. You could probably run an absorption-type fridge off a solar concentrator, but it might be more trouble than than it's worth. Heat a brine to 300 degrees in a solar oven, circulate the hot brine to the absorption fridge, and once cooled, back to the oven.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

That is way beyond my needs. I enjoy going on photography adventures in my mid size SUV where I am moving around each day. My pattern is to car camp overnight somewhere and then mosey on for new subjects. My current lightweight system has been working OK for several years. Lately I have been thing about getting a bigger battery so the refrig can run about 14 hours when not driving. That gives me some extra head room I don't have. The refrig is so nice because I don't have deal with ice.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:23 AM (R+yH5)

328 So does gasoline, but ethanol is basically half-oxidized gasoline.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:21 AM (YqDXo)

Hydrogen leaks out of almost anything. And it is so un-dense that that practical-sized containers of it don't really store that much energy. There is more hydrogen (in moles) in a gallon of gasoline, than there is in a gallon of liquid hydrogen. Go ahead, look it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:24 AM (ZO20Q)

329 {{{COMM}}} I am sorry that I missed you, many prayers from here, be strong, my friend, I want to see you at the MoMe next year!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 08, 2024 12:25 AM (Sgq8y)

330 Break down CO2 into components and use the oxygen to boost the methane. He's got to be planning on a lot of recycling.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:26 AM (57fs2)

331 Hey, Altaria Pilgram here are the New Mexico drama queens:

https://tinyurl.com/249cjj92
Posted by: Braenyard

Jackpot! I am keeping this URL.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:27 AM (R+yH5)

332 294
Is Trumpy the cat named after the creature in Pod People aka Extra Terrestrial Visitors ?

https://t.ly/6iIGU

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2024 12:00 AM (63Dwl)

Officially, their little girls named him. We're in Canada but my friends are huge Trump fans. The girls' mother drove to Michigan to see Trump at a rally.

We're finishing renovations but I have to get this one Trumpy picture to the Pet thread. It rained. I was taking care of the cats. Went to check on them Trumpy was soaked. I took a picture of him as he was coming towards me for comfort.

Identical to Trump's mugshot.
Defiant anger...

.....currently on the edge of the bed watching chipmunks on tv. Night 8. I take care of him and Snowflake for an extended time in the new year...

Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 12:27 AM (jvJvP)

333 That is way beyond my needs. I enjoy going on photography adventures in my mid size SUV where I am moving around each day. My pattern is to car camp overnight somewhere and then mosey on for new subjects. My current lightweight system has been working OK for several years. Lately I have been thing about getting a bigger battery so the refrig can run about 14 hours when not driving. That gives me some extra head room I don't have. The refrig is so nice because I don't have deal with ice.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:23 AM (R+yH5)

A regular little 3-way fridge from a camper van or motor coach is what you need. They are about a 2-foot cube, and weigh maybe 40 pounds. I have several of them kicking around here. About the only iron-clad rule for them is that they remain upright; the thermo-syphon inside their plumbing depends upon gravity to work right.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:28 AM (ZO20Q)

334 326 HH

I'm concerned that the way Harris/aWalz dominate paid broadcast TV ads may discourage some low propensity voters.

I read that Harris has 5x more cash on hand than Trump... which is why we almost never see any Trump ads.

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:29 AM (NLIak)

335 The fact that we're talking about nuking hurricanes is proof for me that Science! is in need of getting it's act together to harness the energy for mankind's betterment. Where the hell are our science experts to go full matador on this Milton beast. As it stands,

G_d - 1
Science - 0

Posted by: Rex B at October 08, 2024 12:29 AM (592Pr)

336 Uncle Milty has been dumping on the Yucatan for a couple of hours. One station reporting between 4 to 12 inches per hour for 3+ hours now. This sucker is going to dump a huge amount of rain while it cuts across Florida.

I'm 18 ft above but just a block from a creek that runs about a half mile to the Banana River on the East Coast.

I'm figuring on the road being flooded a bit.

Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:30 AM (QB+5g)

337 I'm concerned that the way Harris/aWalz dominate paid broadcast TV ads may discourage some low propensity voters.

I read that Harris has 5x more cash on hand than Trump... which is why we almost never see any Trump ads.
Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:29 AM (NLIak)

Trump's base will crawl across an acre of broken glass to vote for him. Kameltoe is trying to shore up her base.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:31 AM (ZO20Q)

338 My old, long time ago, 12v fridge would suck a battery dry in about 2 hours. Fourteen hours on a battery is good news.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:32 AM (57fs2)

339 324
Seems as if Harris/Walz are running a lot of anti-Trump ads aimed at Republican voters lately, featuring Mike Pence, Dick Cheney: "You can't trust Trump!" is the tagline on these.

The most expensive TV ads, by far, are NFL game spots. I can't say that Harris dominates these 10-1 because... I've never SEEN a Trump ad during an NFL broadcast. She dominates them 100-0.
******
Never thought of any R’s being “Harris- persuadable” at this late date, but maybe so. From my perspective, if you were an R that wasn’t going to vote for PDT, you had decided that months/years ago. I’m sure they do lots of focus groups, though, so maybe those votes are out there.

Posted by: EveR at October 08, 2024 12:33 AM (Z/h4+)

340 328 So does gasoline, but ethanol is basically half-oxidized gasoline.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:21 AM (YqDXo)

Hydrogen leaks out of almost anything. And it is so un-dense that that practical-sized containers of it don't really store that much energy. There is more hydrogen (in moles) in a gallon of gasoline, than there is in a gallon of liquid hydrogen. Go ahead, look it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:24 AM (ZO20Q)

Wait! Are you trying to tell me that hydrogen isn't the fuel of the future? That it won't solve all our problems and save the planet from burning up? But all the best people tell me it is !

When someone starts talking about our "Hydrogen Future" I like to ask them "Where does hydrogen come from?". You either get a blank look, or a lot of handwaving about making it from seawater and solar and wind and unicorn farts. Storing and transporting it aren't even in their thought process.

Posted by: BillyD at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (Yt3ED)

341 Hydrogen leaks out of almost anything. And it is so un-dense that that practical-sized containers of it don't really store that much energy. There is more hydrogen (in moles) in a gallon of gasoline, than there is in a gallon of liquid hydrogen. Go ahead, look it up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:24 AM (ZO20Q)

I'm well aware of that. But we're talking about theoretical considerations, not practical ones, because otherwise the discussion is long over. For energy generation from chemical reactions it would be hard to beat H2 + F2. H2 + O2 is second. CH4 + O2 decrements the energy yield by the heat of formation of CH4 from H2.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (YqDXo)

342 I just remembered Akua Makana, an infrequent poster, lives(d) in Western NC up around Yancy County. That county was crushed by the flooding. I hope she is okay.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (WXNFJ)

343 Kameltoe is trying to shore up her base.

Unfortunately, that comprises the braindead automatons, which in turn comprise about half of the voting populace.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (mH6SG)

344 >>>336 Uncle Milty has been dumping on the Yucatan for a couple of hours. One station reporting between 4 to 12 inches per hour for 3+ hours now. This sucker is going to dump a huge amount of rain while it cuts across Florida.
-----------

I'm concerned with it going back up to the Carolina's and TN.
Floridians better going rent a trailer and start packing their best.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:35 AM (57fs2)

345 My old, long time ago, 12v fridge would suck a battery dry in about 2 hours. Fourteen hours on a battery is good news.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:32 AM (57fs2)

It's kind of an eye-opener, just how much energy it takes to shuffle heat around, isn't it? And just how much energy is involved when heat shuffles around on its own accord, like in young Milton?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:35 AM (ZO20Q)

346 I SAID "low propensity voters," not "Trump's base," who are the exact opposite of low propensity voters.

Trump has been running well among those who rarely vote, or who have never voted. The challenge is getting these voters to turn out.

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:35 AM (NLIak)

347 🎹🎵
They're nuking the cats
They're nuking the dogs
They're nuking the pets
of the people that live there
____

!? Just popped into my head. Couldn't figure out how to make it about nuking hurricanes.
____

God bless CoMM - she sure seems to be in good spirits for what she's facing. Good for her.
____

This has been a day. Tomorrow afternoon, I'll be getting these stitches out from my eyelid surgery. Eventually, I'll quit looking like I got punched in the eye. Theoretically.

Haven't had a shiner since back in Little Rock in '72, some young men of melanin taught this dumb white boy a lesson. They were kind enough that two black eyes was the worst I got. Those were days.

And with that fun memory, I'm off to bed.
_____

https://youtu.be/UnoCI2N9nWw

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Not the Black Eyed Peas at October 08, 2024 12:35 AM (yP/rv)

348
I was just skimming around about why methane on Mars vs hydrogen directly.

This is the basic idea of what you have to do. Land some shit on Mars, and then make your fuel on Mars to get you back off the planet. So robots making the fuel over a long period of time.

The energy and equipment costs required to store the hydrogen and keep it cryogenic are astronomical.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 12:36 AM (w6EFb)

349 I currently use an ICECO Go 20 qt. It is incredibly quiet (I can't hear it when sleeping with it next to me in the backend of the SUV. It is also quite efficient - my 300w battery runs if for a bit over 8 hours.

I think I understand what I need to do now which is get a bigger battery and make sure it runs/charges using the 12V DC car system and can passthrough the power when driving. I should be OK with that.

https://tinyurl.com/p2rnbenc

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:37 AM (R+yH5)

350 Nytol

Posted by: mnw at October 08, 2024 12:37 AM (NLIak)

351 342 I just remembered Akua Makana, an infrequent poster, lives(d) in Western NC up around Yancy County. That county was crushed by the flooding. I hope she is okay.
Posted by: Tonypete
-----------------

Yeah, I pray for them all. A report from Mike Hammer would be nice. And Capt. Sabin hasn't been around for a while.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:38 AM (57fs2)

352 I'm well aware of that. But we're talking about theoretical considerations, not practical ones, because otherwise the discussion is long over. For energy generation from chemical reactions it would be hard to beat H2 + F2. H2 + O2 is second. CH4 + O2 decrements the energy yield by the heat of formation of CH4 from H2.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (YqDXo)

But if you are making rocket fuel, you have to make something that can be effectively stored, until you need to burn it. And Musk is all about practical considerations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:38 AM (ZO20Q)

353 ...That gives me some extra head room I don't have. The refrig is so nice because I don't have deal with ice.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:23 AM (R+yH5)

The "bigger battery" is a fool's errand in this case, then.

What you need is a two-battery system, with a Marine Selector Switch between them. One is a Starting battery (conventional), and the other is a House Bank battery (Deep Cycle), either a solitary 12 v. or paired 6v in series.

Which means you can 'fridge the House Bank down to zero, and still have a Hot Battery to fire up your chariot, and get it's alternator working on recharging the House Bank. Oh, and bring the solar back into the equation, but charging the House Bank ONLY.

Consult the sailing forums for endless expertise on this. They've been doing it for forty years or so.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 08, 2024 12:40 AM (kQgoX)

354 346 Both PDT and Harris have their die-hard voters. Agree getting those who rarely vote motivated is difficult and, unfortunately, the D GOTV is much better than the R’s. A lot of that failure can be placed at the feet of Ronna Romney.

Posted by: EveR at October 08, 2024 12:40 AM (Z/h4+)

355 We have plenty of methane. Well, until our overlords finish us off. Enjoy your tofu burgers, citizens.

Posted by: The Cows at October 08, 2024 12:40 AM (mH6SG)

356 No one has successfully landed a rocket full of cryos and taken off again.

Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:42 AM (QB+5g)

357 DebbyD

Im still lutking....I was hoping to see you! I just knew you would be here for me! It's so good to hear from you, and thanks for your best wishes. I will totally try to get back to you my friend....big love DDS!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 08, 2024 12:42 AM (psdlK)

358 I currently use an ICECO Go 20 qt. It is incredibly quiet (I can't hear it when sleeping with it next to me in the backend of the SUV. It is also quite efficient - my 300w battery runs if for a bit over 8 hours.

I think I understand what I need to do now which is get a bigger battery and make sure it runs/charges using the 12V DC car system and can passthrough the power when driving. I should be OK with that.

https://tinyurl.com/p2rnbenc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:37 AM (R+yH5)

There are thermoelectric cooler chests. I have one; not used in years. They will keep cold food cold, but lack the capacity to chill un-cold food down to fridge temperatures. Problem with thermo-electrics is that they are semi-conductors electrically, and also thermally. Isolation between the cold side and the hot side just isn't all that good. Gas systems, be they absorption or compressor, achieve better isolation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:45 AM (ZO20Q)

359 Musk need to develop new rocket engines that run of stuff you can make and store on Mars.

Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:47 AM (QB+5g)

360 I think I understand what I need to do now which is get a bigger battery and make sure it runs/charges using the 12V DC car system and can passthrough the power when driving. I should be OK with that.

https://tinyurl.com/p2rnbenc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram
--------------------------

Very, very tempting. Is the app necessary? Can it be operated without the app?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:48 AM (57fs2)

361 Tell me this isn't deliberate.

tiny.cc/i5apzz

Posted by: Sock Monkey * pissed off at October 08, 2024 12:49 AM (hxTNR)

362 When someone starts talking about our "Hydrogen Future" I like to ask them "Where does hydrogen come from?". You either get a blank look, or a lot of handwaving about making it from seawater and solar and wind and unicorn farts. Storing and transporting it aren't even in their thought process.
Posted by: BillyD at October 08, 2024 12:34 AM (Yt3ED)

Liberals, not knowing squat about thermodynamics, fail to grasp that electrons are basically the working fluid for generating energy. If we lived in an atmosphere of H2, then fuel would be any electron sink, such as O2.

Think of water. If water were stored at altitude, we could (and do) extract energy by catching it running downhill. If water were running uphill (for some reason, such as tidal currents), we could extract energy from that, too. Water is just the working fluid.

The nature of the working fluid is not really relevant, thermodynamically, because it is returned to its original state.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 12:49 AM (YqDXo)

363 DDS
elliegrl007 at gmail dot com if your care to get in touch...
Anyway....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 08, 2024 12:50 AM (psdlK)

364 It's not just the thermal isolation which makes thermoelectric impractical, it's the COP unless you have a lot of power available you don't are about. It's usually less than 1 and then you have to reject all that waste heat.

Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:51 AM (QB+5g)

365 Musk need to develop new rocket engines that run of stuff you can make and store on Mars.
Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:47 AM (QB+5g)

I think that is exactly what he is doing. Mars has CO2, and it has a little water. Collect enough energy, and methane and oxygen can be manufactured. Note that he is not proposing, that the Mars colony itself run off this operation; strictly a means to get rocket lift.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:51 AM (ZO20Q)

366 I think I understand what I need to do now which is get a bigger battery and make sure it runs/charges using the 12V DC car system and can passthrough the power when driving. I should be OK with that.

https://tinyurl.com/p2rnbenc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram
--------------------------

Very, very tempting. Is the app necessary? Can it be operated without the app?
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes, but they are designed to work with the app. I am with you about the app...really? My car has an app - it is the way of the world these days.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:53 AM (R+yH5)

367 Well, darned near 2300 here, and I am ready for some sack time. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 12:54 AM (ZO20Q)

368 I wonder if manufacturing solids are at all practical on Mars. I remember there being a lot of perchlorates in the soil at different locations.

Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:55 AM (QB+5g)

369 ...Yes, but they are designed to work with the app. I am with you about the app...really? My car has an app - it is the way of the world these days. Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 12:53 AM (R+yH5)

Stop the Wild Goose Chase.

Go read my #353.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 08, 2024 12:57 AM (kQgoX)

370 There are thermoelectric cooler chests. I have one; not used in years. They will keep cold food cold, but lack the capacity to chill un-cold food down to fridge temperatures. Problem with thermo-electrics is that they are semi-conductors electrically, and also thermally. Isolation between the cold side and the hot side just isn't all that good. Gas systems, be they absorption or compressor, achieve better isolation.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------------------

Mine was 3 way; 120,12, and propane. I used either propane or if available 120. But propane was just fine. Gas would be awkward used in car camping.

Had a Silverado with a camper shell. Using angle iron cross pieces crossing the tops of the truck side panels for braces then plywood and a foam cushion I split the camper in half. The pickup bed became storage and the top half became a bed. Worked OK for 3 or 4 day trips.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:57 AM (57fs2)

371 Well, that is disappointing.

Watching a YouTube build of the Great Wall Hobby 1/48 P-61B "Lady in the Dark" and the builder commits two errors.

First one is B series Black Widow specific. The main gear doors are now four doors with the longer rear doors closing after gear extension. He glued all the main gear doors in the open position.

Second is particular to "Lady in the Dark." He installed the ADF football just before the radar operator's boarding hatch. For this particular plane of which photos exist, the ADF football was located on the underside of the right boom aft of the main gear doors.

Other than that, pretty nice build.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 08, 2024 12:59 AM (yrMbv)

372 Musk need to develop new rocket engines that run of stuff you can make and store on Mars.
Posted by: pawn at October 08, 2024 12:47 AM

Musk needs to develop new rocket engines that run of off stupidity. God knows we've got lots of that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 08, 2024 01:02 AM (YqDXo)

373
Just reading around. Reusability was one of the reasons methane shines as well, turns out. For one-shot disposable rocket engines, methane isn't all that attractive, but when you want to use that engine many times over and over, methane has advantages.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at October 08, 2024 01:02 AM (w6EFb)

374 Back, briefly. Went outside for pee, since doggie had to go out, too. Pretty fantastic aurora going on right now! Seems to originate from the zenith, and runs from east to south to west, but not North. Green, blue, and red! Such a sight. Going to go back out and marvel at it a little more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 01:04 AM (Zzf3f)

375 Green, blue, and red! Such a sight. Going to go back out and marvel at it a little more.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Had to go look. Pretty awesome. I'm betting I am about 500 miles south of you.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * pissed off at October 08, 2024 01:10 AM (hxTNR)

376 Just taking a peek in

Posted by: Skip at October 08, 2024 01:10 AM (fwDg9)

377 Had a Silverado with a camper shell. Using angle iron cross pieces crossing the tops of the truck side panels for braces then plywood and a foam cushion I split the camper in half. The pickup bed became storage and the top half became a bed. Worked OK for 3 or 4 day trips.
Posted by: Braenyard

A propane tank is the back of 106" wheelbase SUV would be most entertaining; carbon monoxide poisoning is always good for a few laughs. The ICECO refrig is 12V DC and it works ridiculously well and runs perfectly using the SUV's 12V DC system. Well, until you turn the car off hence the inserting the Bluetti or similar between the SUV's 12V DC output and the refrigerator's 12 input. Using the SUV's AC outlet to drive Blutetti or equal has complications is what I heard here. I should be fine driving it with the SUV's 12V DC systems though it will charge on the slow side. All this is pretty much a hack system but it does work extremely well and doesn't require hardwiring in additional batteries. Eventually I will pick up a foldable solar panel to recharge the battery if I am staying put for a few days.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 08, 2024 01:11 AM (R+yH5)

378 PILGRIM. FOR FUCK'S SAKE, GO READ 353, DAMMIT!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 08, 2024 01:15 AM (kQgoX)

379 Didn't mean to suggest gas for the SUV. That little fridge sounds super. One of those extras that would be handy to have. I saved Jim's suggestion on the battery deal and will pursue it.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 01:16 AM (57fs2)

380 COMM, I just tried sending you an email and it bounced right back to me. If you tell BenHad that it is okay, I will get your contact info from her and you will be hearing from me soon. Much Love, DDS

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 08, 2024 01:19 AM (Sgq8y)

381 Back. I am in awe. In awe! I went back out and laid on the ground by the firepit. On a concrete slab, actually. The rays appear to be originating right over my head, at the zenith, and it was like being under an inverted funnel, watching streaks of light dribbling down the inner sides of it. Like that. Some really bright patches is the north, at low elevation, but sporadic. I stayed out until I got chilly, and a cool wind sprang up.

This is the best aurora I have seen, bar one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 01:21 AM (2WRlI)

382 Trumpy left early tonight! I'm going to try to gwt a good night sleep.

So his sister, Snowflake, whom I will also be taking care of for an extended period came in for a few minutes. I'm still learning about cats, but man, did he go after her!

I didn't peg Dude as a Democrat.

Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 01:21 AM (jvJvP)

383 I didn't peg Dude as a Democrat.
Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 01:21 AM (jvJvP)

Get your ass outside, and see if you can see the aurora. It is a humdinger!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 01:22 AM (2WRlI)

384 Well, one more look outside, and then off to bed. Dreams of Sam McGee in the offing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 01:28 AM (2WRlI)

385 287 Molecular Sieves are engineered Zeolites

A Zeolite can occur naturally, being a mixture of Silicon, Aluminum and oxygen.
They can also be manufactured and artificially manipulated to create a solid with a very specific pore size, measured in Angstroms, or Nanometers.
These are then a molecular size, and work by size exclusion of gas molecules.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 07, 2024 11:54 PM (tjZg/)

Yeah. Oxygen concentrators use those; when the pressure is increased, the zeolite absorbs O2; when the pressure is lowered, the zeolite released O2.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 08, 2024 01:28 AM (ynpvh)

386 Get your ass outside, and see if you can see the aurora. It is a humdinger!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 08, 2024 01:22 AM (2WRlI)

Thanks AOP!

Just went outside. Nothing.

I'm in Southern Ontario. Just another reason why Ontario sucks.

If WW3 erupts and it goes nuclear, I wonder if Putin would entertain requests....

Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 01:29 AM (jvJvP)

387 Bet there are some good room rates in Miami hotels now.

Posted by: N at October 08, 2024 01:32 AM (8XibL)

388 I was in WNC when Helene came through. I'd been watching Fox Weather until we lost electricity about 11:30pm. So I went to sleep in 2024 and woke up the next morning in 1885. No water, no electricity, no roads out as most of the bridges were gone. Landslides were frequent. But not chaos. Neighbors who had generators cooked for those who couldn't. Volunteer firefighters checked house by house. Americans are amazing!

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 01:35 AM (eZ3tp)

389 I was in WNC when Helene came through. I'd been watching Fox Weather until we lost electricity about 11:30pm. So I went to sleep in 2024 and woke up the next morning in 1885. No water, no electricity, no roads out as most of the bridges were gone. house by house.

South of the Mason Dixon wouldn't that be more be 1955 , not 1885?

Posted by: N at October 08, 2024 01:37 AM (8XibL)

390 Akua Makana, good to know you're OK. Tonypete's been concerned.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 01:38 AM (57fs2)

391 South of the Mason Dixon wouldn't that be more be 1955 , not 1885?
Posted by: N at October 08, 2024 01:37 AM (8XibL)
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Just stay where you are and you'll be OK.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 01:40 AM (57fs2)

392 Akua Makana, I am glad that you are ok. I am curious if you have any opinions on which agency or charity is doing the best job of helping people right there on the ground. I would like to send a donation, but not the feds and scam artists.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 08, 2024 01:51 AM (Sgq8y)

393 Posted by: N at October 08, 2024 01:37 AM (8XibL)

In parts of the South, more like 1975. Where we live now in Arkansas didn't have widespread electricity until well in to the 70s.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at October 08, 2024 01:58 AM (Vvh2V)

394 388 cont. After 4 days, my kids found my name on a survivors list and they put together Operation Rescue Mom. My daughter showed up at my house with a man in a pickup and said, "Ok. We're going now." The pickup took us, including my dogs, to a parking lot where I was evacuated out by helicopter and then plane from Avery County back to FL. Yeah, that FL. Where Milton the Monster is coming to visit.

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 01:59 AM (eZ3tp)

395 I know how to combat it, not that hard really. But people get all funny when you say it out loud.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2024 11:36 PM (S6gqv)
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Funny how they can say things out loud:

https://tinyurl.com/465rxf4m

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 08, 2024 02:01 AM (qfv9Q)

396 Debby, I never saw any government agency, but I heard that the two best places were churches and Samatian's Purse. My church in Asheville, Trinity Baptist, since Helene, has dug 2 wells (people need water), is set up our open area with trailers where people can take a shower, others where they get food, supplies, a service where you can leave a bag of dirty laundry and pick it up next day and more, including pastors to pray with.

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 02:06 AM (eZ3tp)

397 Biden's Dog, continued prayers for you and those dear to you; for any 'ron and 'ette in harm's way tonight.
Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at October 07, 2024 11:41 PM (Cu0iA)
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Thanks. Very morningy, now after 9AM. Super sunny and cool. Heard lots of our artillery this morning, in response to incoming threats over the last several hours. My locale was not affected but I did here distant sirens from a targeted area.

Finishing a sunnyside up breakfast. Then some gardening to do.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 08, 2024 02:08 AM (qfv9Q)

398 Akua, what are you going to do now?? That must be horrible for you.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 08, 2024 02:13 AM (Sgq8y)

399 To Akua and other Morons affected by Helene, best wishes for safety, recovery and a return to sanity. Be well.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 08, 2024 02:16 AM (qfv9Q)

400 Biden's Dog, church in 397 is very involved in Magen David Adom. We raised the money and sent 3 more ambulances after Oct 7, 2023 as one we'd previously sent was destroyed during the raid.

Debby, I'm going back. I love it there. I will definitely be better prepared for emergencies, though. Especially a way to make coffee.

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 02:22 AM (eZ3tp)

401 226 A pebble can trip a horse. Problem is , America stopped thinking BIG, moved everything to China, and is now into services and adult toys like iPads.

Posted by: runner at October 07, 2024 11:15 PM (V13WU)
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Dildos, don't forget dildos ..... and vibrators, and .......

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, il vibrattore at October 08, 2024 02:26 AM (qfLjt)

402 380 DDS
I got it. You should have a responce
🙂🙂🙂

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 08, 2024 02:36 AM (psdlK)

403 I will definitely be better prepared for emergencies, though. Especially a way to make coffee.
Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 02:22 AM (eZ3tp)
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Every other IDF soldier carries in his backpack a small pack containing everything needed to boil and brew a Turkish coffee in the field That includes a small gas canister and a burner to attach to it. Example:

https://tinyurl.com/7wea62ee

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 08, 2024 02:38 AM (qfv9Q)

404 Well, I will bid you all good night. Big day full of fun and surprises tomorrow 🤪🤪🤪
Good night good Horde!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at October 08, 2024 02:40 AM (psdlK)

405 I am off to bed, Horde, Akua you will be in my prayers and thanks for the info above.

Night, COMM.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 08, 2024 02:42 AM (Sgq8y)

406 370
Mine was 3 way; 120,12, and propane. I used either propane or if available 120. But propane was just fine. Gas would be awkward used in car camping.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 08, 2024 12:57 AM (57fs2)
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See, using 'gas' in the same paragraph as propane is confusing. Gasoline would be preferable and that's why I like the Brit. 'petrol'. Some people have converted vehicles to run on propane or similar, a gas conversion! Confusing?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, il gas e la benzina at October 08, 2024 02:43 AM (qfLjt)

407 Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 01:59 AM (eZ3tp

Just wow!

You may post infrequently, but I have saw comments asking about you.

I'll try to direct people here tomorrow, the very end of the ONT to hear your story. A year of house renovations has been driving me insane...but your story...

Stay safe.

Posted by: Stateless at October 08, 2024 02:51 AM (jvJvP)

408 Akua Makana

Is your church Trinity Baptist Church - Ashville, NC on Shelburne Road - Pastor Winston Parrsih with a link to the Task Force Trinity - Hurricane Helene Relief?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 08, 2024 03:02 AM (QGaXH)

409 408 Typo - Parrish not Parrsih.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 08, 2024 03:03 AM (QGaXH)

410 A.R., yes it is. That church is one of the reasons that I'll be going back to WNC.

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 03:27 AM (eZ3tp)

411 Biden's Dog, that Turkish coffee maker is really great, but I'm one of the very few people you'll ever meet who grew up in Ankara and don't like Turkish coffee. I like sissy coffee.
However my daughter does and I'll show it to her. Thanks. She'll want one, I'm sure.

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 08, 2024 03:38 AM (eZ3tp)

412 Morning, fellow insomaniacals. The news is grim, is it not? Is there are lightness ahead in the tunnel?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 08, 2024 03:41 AM (omVj0)

413 ANY lightness ahead in the tunnel, I meant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 08, 2024 03:45 AM (omVj0)

414 Best K slept in weeks

Posted by: Skip at October 08, 2024 03:47 AM (fwDg9)

415 Akua Makana -- good luck!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 08, 2024 03:56 AM (omVj0)

416 Noodus pixyana

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 08, 2024 04:05 AM (omVj0)

417
In parts of the South, more like 1975. Where we live now in Arkansas didn't have widespread electricity until well in to the 70s.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor

Miss Tammy!

Posted by: N at October 08, 2024 04:45 AM (8XibL)

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