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Daily Tech News 24 September 2024

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  • AI superintelligence will be here in 20 years says Sam Altman who would never ever lie about such a thing. (Ars Technica)
    "It is possible that we will have superintelligence in a few thousand days (!); it may take longer, but I'm confident we'll get there," he wrote.
    Wanna bet, Sam?
    It's easy to criticize Altman's vagueness here; no one can truly predict the future, but Altman, as CEO of OpenAI, is likely privy to AI research techniques coming down the pipeline that aren't broadly known to the public.
    No. He's not.
    So even when couched with a broad time frame, the claim comes from a noteworthy source in the AI field-albeit one who is heavily invested in making sure that AI progress does not stall.
    No. It doesn't.
    Elsewhere in the essay, Altman frames our present era as the dawn of "The Intelligence Age," the next transformative technology era in human history, following the Stone Age, Agricultural Age, and Industrial Age. He credits the success of deep learning algorithms as the catalyst for this new era, stating simply: "How did we get to the doorstep of the next leap in prosperity? In three words: deep learning worked."
    The problem with that is that "deep learning" hasn't worked, and can't. There's no point making ever larger and more expensive models - if there ever was - because we've run out of data to feed them.
    Not everyone shares Altman's optimism and enthusiasm. Computer scientist and frequent AI critic Grady Booch quoted Altman's "few thousand days" prediction and wrote on X, "I am so freaking tired of all the AI hype: it has no basis in reality and serves only to inflate valuations, inflame the public, garnet [sic] headlines, and distract from the real work going on in computing."
    Yes.


Tech News

  • Redis users are considering jumping ship. (The Register)

    Redis used to be open source. Now it isn't.

    Which is a problem for Redis.


  • Because now Valkey exists. (Valkey)

    It only exists because Redis used to be open source, but Redis did use to be open source.

    Meaning that Valkey could take the last open source version of Redis, and create its own version.

    And then add features that Redis never had (like multi-threading) and then ship it as open source.

    The only thing Valkey can't do is stop being open source, which is a feature rather than a bug.


  • The Arc browser: Why you need a better browser than Chrome. (The Verge)

    Chrome used to be the best. Now it's... Meh.

    Arc is designed to be an operating system for web applications. Should you try it?
    So, the origin of The Browser Company is I was a political appointee in the Obama White House and after the 2016 election, I was personally devastated by the result. I felt like technology and the technology industry had an impact on the things I didn't like, and I was very motivated to try to do something about it.
    No.


  • Intel's Razer Lake CPUs will follow after Nova Lake now that the Arrow Lake Refresh has been cancelled. (Tom's Hardware)

    Look, I follow this stuff every single day, and if you told me that Veronica Lake was now set to follow Swan Lake because Rose Madder Lake had been cancelled I would have no idea whether that was real or not.


Disclaimer: Oh you'll take the high lake and I'll take the low lake...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:17 AM




Comments

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1 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Ciampino - fearing Barbarossa in reverse? at September 24, 2024 04:19 AM (qfLjt)

2 Thanks Pixy!

Mornin’ fellow mooncalves.

Definition of forever: From the time I realize I can’t go back to sleep to the time the Tech Thread is posted.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at September 24, 2024 04:20 AM (JRP2U)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 04:21 AM (fwDg9)

4 Hey, first to the ONT and the Tech thread. I obviously don't have a life!

Posted by: Ciampino - fearing no faial hair ever! at September 24, 2024 04:21 AM (qfLjt)

5 Fifth?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:22 AM (omVj0)

6 BOING!

Missed him by that much!

https://tinyurl.com/4mders94

Out for late morning walk.

l8r

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 24, 2024 04:22 AM (B/XoF)

7 Fifth?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:22 AM (omVj0)
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I don't recall me ever taking the 5th.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 24, 2024 04:23 AM (B/XoF)

8 Pixy, I so appreciate when you call bullshit on these pretentious assholes

Posted by: Mark in South Jordan Utah at September 24, 2024 04:24 AM (WHgh9)

9 Up just ahead of the alarm (I got enough sleep, thanks to the esteemed law firm of Unisom & Melatonin), sipping coffee and a pipe of burley leaf while a young Loni Anderson appears in a bikini on a '76 Barnaby Jones. LIfe may not be idyllic, but it ain't bad just now.

Thanks to all for your helpful comments yesterday concerning my impasse with Miss Linda about my retirement and moving plans. The notion that she may be waiting for me to take the lead? I was talking with the only Trump supporter I know at work and brought up the idea, and she smiled and said, "I was just about to say that!" A kind of confirmation, in a way.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:24 AM (omVj0)

10
Disclaimer: Oh you'll take the high lake and I'll take the low lake...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:17 AM
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.... and we'll all drown.

Posted by: Ciampino - spelunked at September 24, 2024 04:26 AM (qfLjt)

11 >>>AI superintelligence will be here in 20 years says Sam Altman who would never ever lie about such a thing. (Ars Technica)

Based on the excerpts, the Ars Technica writer is star-struck by Sam Altman, maybe even worships Sam Altman. Which is a problem.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 04:27 AM (64Zez)

12 I'm with Grady Booch. It's just another investment bubble so that those early-in can make money on the hype, leave mid-way, and leave the suckers holding the bag when the whole thing fails. That, and everything else he said, too.

Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024 04:27 AM (O7YUW)

13 That moron is wrong, We had the Stone Age, Agricultural Age, and Industrial Age, and the Electronic Age which is now.

All these ages involve tools.

(He did ignore Bronze and Iron Ages)

Posted by: Ciampino - all because of an opposable thumb at September 24, 2024 04:29 AM (qfLjt)

14 5 Fifth?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:22 AM (omVj0)

Golly.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 04:30 AM (64Zez)

15 I'm not superstitious . . . but I do have a tendency, when something goes wrong first thing in the morning, to say, "This is NOT gonna be a good day." Today? Turned on the coffeemaker, went away for my robe, came back and found the unit doing nothing but showing green lights. I'd forgotten to put water in it last night. And the pot was hot, so I had to wait until it cooled before I could put water in.

An omen, I tells ya, it's a sign from the heavens to warn us from this place --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:30 AM (omVj0)

16 11 >>>AI superintelligence will be here in 20 years says Sam Altman who would never ever lie about such a thing. (Ars Technica)

Based on the excerpts, the Ars Technica writer is star-struck by Sam Altman, maybe even worships Sam Altman. Which is a problem.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 04:27 AM (64Zez)
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You really meant 'even sucks Sam Altman's dick' didn't you?

Posted by: Ciampino - the dog-eater's route at September 24, 2024 04:32 AM (qfLjt)

17 Disclaimer: Oh you'll take the high lake and I'll take the low lake...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:17 AM
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.... and we'll all drown.
Posted by: Ciampino
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Best to slowly wade in.

Posted by: scampydog at September 24, 2024 04:35 AM (Sgsyb)

18 Best to slowly wade in.
Posted by: scampydog at September 24, 2024


***
Hey! This water's COLD!!!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:36 AM (omVj0)

19 A.I. is going to be like cold fusion and a cure for cancer: always around the corner.

Posted by: Don't Hold Your Breath, or Do, But It A.I.n't Coming at September 24, 2024 04:36 AM (RIQol)

20 This name, Sam Altman, is familiar. Wasn't he at the center of some big scam a few years back? Avoided jail time by a whisker? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:37 AM (omVj0)

21 Hey! This water's COLD!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Deep, too!

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at September 24, 2024 04:38 AM (JRP2U)

22 18 Best to slowly wade in.
Posted by: scampydog at September 24, 2024

***
Hey! This water's COLD!!!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:36 AM (omVj0)
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And deep!

Posted by: Ciampino - 2000 pounds of Chinese soup = Won ton at September 24, 2024 04:39 AM (qfLjt)

23 Mornin' from Pennsyltucky. Nice to be away from Babylon DC for a bit.

Not used to being a daywalker. I been up since 0300. I see a nap later this morning.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 24, 2024 04:41 AM (/Djer)

24 19
I would add Controlled Nuclear Fusion to the list. It's always 20 years away.

Posted by: Ciampino - 1 millionth of a mouthwash = 1 microscope at September 24, 2024 04:41 AM (qfLjt)

25 Let’s not forget flying cars

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at September 24, 2024 04:45 AM (JRP2U)

26 Let’s not forget flying cars
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline

We do have flying monkeys, that's a start.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2024 04:46 AM (viGl0)

27 drilling for oil...8 YEARS!

Posted by: a dude in MI at September 24, 2024 04:48 AM (+I6Y/)

28 19
I would add Controlled Nuclear Fusion to the list. It's always 20 years away.
Posted by: Ciampino
------------
Tangentially related to these big brain inventions. Visited an interactive Leonardo Da Vinci museum a couple days ago. Makes a fella reflect on the insignificance/lack of of one's contributions to mankind.

Posted by: scampydog at September 24, 2024 04:48 AM (Sgsyb)

29 Wolfus: Tennessee.

Kenny (aka Wirecutter from the "Knuckledraggin My Life Away" blog) used to work in a grocery warehouse in California, and the day he retired, he activated his plan to move to Tennessee and enjoy his retirement there. From all accounts in the years since, he's been (and remains) very happy with the decision.

The speed with which he got out of California was rather impressive. It was obvious he couldn't wait to get out of what that state had become.

I'll link his blog under my name for this comment if you want go over there and directly ask.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024 04:49 AM (O7YUW)

30 'Tis 79 F. outside, heat index of 85. Gah.

Anyway! Time for me to shave and shower, then feed the livestock and myself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:49 AM (omVj0)

31 Sam Altman ≠ Samuel Bankman-Fried

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 04:50 AM (64Zez)

32 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at September 24, 2024 04:50 AM (dg+HA)

33
I'll link his blog under my name for this comment if you want go over there and directly ask.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024


***
Thanks, G & R! I'll go take a look. I wasn't thinking Tennessee, only because I know little about it, but I've heard a lot of good things.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:51 AM (omVj0)

34 Sam Altman ≠ Samuel Bankman-Fried
Posted by: m at September 24, 2024


***
Ah, that was it. The combo of "Sam" plus "-man" made me think that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 04:52 AM (omVj0)

35 Wish I could go back to bed

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 04:53 AM (fwDg9)

36 35 Wish I could go back to bed
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 04:53 AM (fwDg9)

looking forward to going to bed..2 more hours

Posted by: a dude in MI at September 24, 2024 04:54 AM (+I6Y/)

37 34
I make the same mistake with those two Sams.
However Altman is gay, "married" to a guy (yuck) and a vegetarian - thus I have no trust in such. The other guy had the weird looking girlfriend, so at least normal.

Posted by: Ciampino - Half of a large intestine = 1 semicolon at September 24, 2024 04:58 AM (qfLjt)

38 Routh's letter gets out there quick, manifestos from Trannies takes a year or more.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 04:59 AM (fwDg9)

39 Caroline Ellison, the ex-girlfriend and top executive in Sam Bankman-Fried’s cryptocurrency empire, will be sentenced Tuesday for her role in the collapse of the crypto exchange FTX and its affiliated hedge fund Alameda Research. (Washington Examiner)

https://tinyurl.com/47wepks8

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 05:01 AM (64Zez)

40 36
I find that I can only sleep about 3 hours at the time lately. Maybe a function of old age? Occasionally maybe get 5 hours. In my young days (heck where did they go) I could do 8-12 easily.

Posted by: Ciampino - 1,000,000 aches = 1 megahurtz at September 24, 2024 05:01 AM (qfLjt)

41 Not everyone shares Altman's optimism and enthusiasm. Computer scientist and frequent AI critic Grady Booch quoted Altman's "few thousand days" prediction and wrote on X, "I am so freaking tired of all the AI hype: it has no basis in reality and serves only to inflate valuations, inflame the public, garnet [sic] headlines, and distract from the real work going on in computing."

-

It's easy if you think about it. I'll give you a hint: Manmade Global Warming is an unquestioned fact now

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 05:02 AM (dDcv5)

42 Caroline Ellison:

In a court filing earlier this month, her defense lawyers asked if she could be sentenced to three years of supervised release and no prison time.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 05:07 AM (64Zez)

43 AI is the string theory of computing.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 24, 2024 05:18 AM (w6EFb)

44 The notion that she may be waiting for me to take the lead?

-

It stinks because society has been purposely broken and made difficult by Our Betters. Men and women are different, and are designed to be different, with different characteristics and strengths. But - similar to Global Warming - we've managed to convince a couple of generations to rage against not only how they naturally function and couldn't change if they wanted to, but also to try and pretend to reject what they're drawn to in a mate and deeply desire in a relationship, while they're in the relationship.

I don't know that this nihilistic and de-populating scheme can be undone.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 05:21 AM (dDcv5)

45 @43/Mikey: They string investors along until it all collapses?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024 05:21 AM (O7YUW)

46 Footage of a Hezbollah missile smashing into the ground and narrowly missing a car in northern Israel.

https://tinyurl.com/5hdrf7e3

(Funny how we still say footage and taping/filming even though it's all digital now. Also we use mileage but what do Europeans say?)

Posted by: Ciampino - Shortest distance between two jokes = A straight line at September 24, 2024 05:22 AM (qfLjt)

47 Man sings lively accapella version of a Charles Wesley hymn, "And can it be that I should gain."

https://tinyurl.com/mr92uxwu

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 05:24 AM (pzZ8h)

48 45 @43/Mikey: They string investors along until it all collapses?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024 05:21 AM (O7YUW)

Ha!

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 05:24 AM (64Zez)

49 As said on ONT long day coming, probably not home until Cafe time.
Forward Dog 9 hitting long road

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2024 05:26 AM (fwDg9)

50 @44/Boron Cobbie: I think this is a case where the phrase "Hoisted on their own petard" could be used for a good overall outcome.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 24, 2024 05:28 AM (O7YUW)

51 6
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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Somehow I missed your post and posted the same link. Sorry. BTW I find your posts newsworthy.

Posted by: Ciampino - Shortest distance between two jokes = A straight line? at September 24, 2024 05:31 AM (qfLjt)

52 The Verge article.Tech guy has new a web browser. He’s essentially created new tech jargon to describe old, tiresome, annoying, but familiar browser things. He wants those things to go away.

That’s his browser revolution. It’s a jargon revolution. Oh, and those 80 tabs you’ve opened? He’s gonna put some of them to sleep in a new place. I forget the word he uses for that new place, but it’s amazing.

Posted by: 13times at September 24, 2024 05:32 AM (/OeKS)

53 47 Fenelon

You might like the humor I posted on the ONT at comment #382.

Also all my socks here on the Tech thread are humorous such as:

"2.4 statute miles of intravenous surgical tubing at Yale University Hospital = 1 IV League"

Posted by: Ciampino - Basic unit of laryngitis = 1 hoarsepower at September 24, 2024 05:36 AM (qfLjt)

54 Psalm 131

https://tinyurl.com/y69dzvyv

A note in my Matthew Henry's commentary of the Bible saints "The psalmist recommends convince in God from his own experience . It is good to hope, and quietly to wait for the salvation of the Lord under every circumstance" This can be very hard to do of course sometimes But this is the encouragement from the psalmist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 05:36 AM (dYpyh)

55 I liked your jokes, Ciampino . Thanks for alerting me to them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 05:41 AM (dYpyh)

56 Tech joke:

What do you call a cat that wants to sit on you while you're on the computer?

A laptop.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 05:44 AM (dYpyh)

57 It stinks because society has been purposely broken and made difficult by Our Betters. Men and women are different, and are designed to be different, with different characteristics and strengths. But - similar to Global Warming - we've managed to convince a couple of generations to rage against not only how they naturally function and couldn't change if they wanted to, but also to try and pretend to reject what they're drawn to in a mate and deeply desire in a relationship, while they're in the relationship. . . .

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024


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Linda has always tended toward the traditional with me -- letting me lead, or letting me believe, anyway, that I was leading. It's hard for me to overcome her "I don't know" when I bring up this retirement/moving topic. It begins to look like I have to present her with a fait accompli: "I've put in my papers. My last day is [Date]. After that, I'm moving, and I want you to come along."

Maybe, once it's all in train, she'll climb aboard. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 05:46 AM (omVj0)

58 I think this is a case where the phrase "Hoisted on their own petard" could be used for a good overall outcome.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

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Here's the problem, and why I didn't make the depopulation comment lightly. Their petard is under the nation.

Non-political investment site:

"From 2014 to 2020, the birth rate consistently declined by 2 percent per annum, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics. Last year the birth rate in the U.S. reached a record low.

Just 3,591,328 babies were born, which indicates that the birth rate has now fallen below the replacement level needed for one generation to replace itself. This was not supposed to happen."

https://tinyurl.com/2b5gpcrk

and Morgan Stanley:

"Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018."

https://tinyurl.com/26m9hnkn

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 05:47 AM (dDcv5)

59 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2024 05:49 AM (hoCmQ)

60 The tropical "storm/cyclone/whatever" is still churning away down below Cuba. The weather mavens' current thinking is that it will head NNE, to hit the point ("Big Bend"?) where FL's west coast curves to run west. I hope none of you is in its path.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)

61 From Quick Hits -
288 42 >>according to health ministry.

The Health Ministry also announced, today, that the Average Penis Size among Hizballah Militants is 14 inches.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2024 06:30 PM (hJb7m)
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But after the pager debacle it is now 0.14 inches.
--
Could be that they made that expensive NASA contractor mistake and said 14 inches instead of 14 centimeters? Anyway not important now as all that excess is on the cutting floor, so to speak.

Posted by: Ciampino - Penis Size among Hizballah? Only the goats care at September 24, 2024 05:52 AM (qfLjt)

62 31 Sam Altman ≠ Samuel Bankman-Fried

The only difference is that Sam Bankman-Fried got caught.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 24, 2024 05:53 AM (BLOW1)

63 Wolfus, just my observation FWIW. It sounds like you two care deeply for one another but she's reluctant to give up her secure place there for some scary unknown future without a more solid commitment than friends with benefits.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 05:55 AM (3Ope8)

64 Somehow I missed your post and posted the same link. Sorry. BTW I find your posts newsworthy.
Posted by: Ciampino - Shortest distance between two jokes = A straight line? at September 24, 2024 05:31 AM (qfLjt)
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I try.

Back from my walk. Sopping sweaty wet. You morons should be able to smell it from here. To the shower!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 24, 2024 05:55 AM (B/XoF)

65 Vaya con Dios,, Skip.

Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 05:59 AM (M6moH)

66 I laughed so hard at some of these I started to choke. Babylon Bee gives us Kamala Harris" translation of Bible verses

https://tinyurl.com/3jdv93n4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 06:00 AM (9dSKP)

67 Wolfus, just my observation FWIW. It sounds like you two care deeply for one another but she's reluctant to give up her secure place there for some scary unknown future without a more solid commitment than friends with benefits.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024


***
I've suggested getting married (though my track record with that institution is poor). She didn't say much. That's her technique to avoid lying or arguing: dead silence.

On the other hand: Sat. evening I took some garbage out to the dumpster and fell into conversation with one of the few neighbors I know here; about fifteen minutes' worth. As I walked back, I met her coming to look for me with a worried look. "I thought you might have tripped on something and couldn't walk, and couldn't call me!" That says a lot.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 06:00 AM (omVj0)

68 Numbers and statistics be damned.

Idiots not breeding is always to be celebrated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 24, 2024 06:02 AM (DDGz9)

69 Wolfus, just my observation FWIW. It sounds like you two care deeply for one another but she's reluctant to give up her secure place there for some scary unknown future without a more solid commitment than friends with benefits.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 05:55 AM
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Seconded, Wolfus.

That's what I was getting at yesterday. COJ stated it better.

I had told BF I needed a *commitment* and he said no, so it was "well, bye" on both our parts... until he didn't go.

He was adamant about not getting married. I was kind of ok with that, but not so much that I was willing to give up my job and move away.

Posted by: JQ at September 24, 2024 06:02 AM (njWTi)

70 62 31 Sam Altman ≠ Samuel Bankman-Fried

The only difference is that Sam Bankman-Fried got caught.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 24, 2024 05:53 AM (BLOW1)
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His goose was cooked, or I should say fried?. He's toast?
He was grilled by the authorities about poaching in forbidden avenues.

Posted by: Ciampino - Penis Size among Hizballah? Only the goats care! at September 24, 2024 06:04 AM (qfLjt)

71 Fen...

I'm barely into the Bible by Kamala. At the rate I'm laughing it's going to take all day to finish it.

Thank you, ma'am.

Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 06:04 AM (M6moH)

72 Linda has always tended toward the traditional with me -- letting me lead

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I'm not addressing her or any individual women in the slightest and only societal observations as a whole:

That's part of the problem mentioned above. 99% tend toward the traditional until it doesn't suit them. It's a learned behavior and has been taught for decades, and it makes relationships and dating unnecessarily difficult. Have a male not approach, not exhibit confidence/strength, not pay on a first date, etc. and see how far that guy gets.

I'd bet you could poll a group of fairly crazy pro-abortion pussy-hat feminists and 95%+ would tend toward a traditional approach to dating while being furious if you suggested women shouldn't sleep around as a way to hold up their end of the mating bargain with the men they expect to court them.

The system has been purposely broken.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:06 AM (dDcv5)

73 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 24, 2024 06:09 AM (VdhcA)

74 Just a random observation:

As I have said before, this year marked the beginning of me getting aggressive about my retirement. Ever since committing to that, I have noticed a bit of impatience for things to happen.

Thankfully, I have a good finance person and my savings are doing well. I can cut back on work hours once we move until I can actually draw on my retirement accounts. The main thing right now is mental as I'm trying to make myself wait things out.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 24, 2024 06:09 AM (svLOV)

75 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2024 06:00 AM (omVj0)

She didn't say much

She didn't say no. You gotta ask. Sure looks like anything else is interpreted as just talking and the more you talk the less serious you are.

Again, just my opinion, YMMV.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 06:10 AM (3Ope8)

76 Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 06:04 AM (M6moH)

You're most welcome. It's good to laugh 😆

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 06:11 AM (9dSKP)

77 The system has been purposely broken

I watched a video on YouTube about women complaining that men are choosing to remain single. One rant really stood out for me.

A woman was talking about a guy she'd been dating. He invited her to his house after a date and she agreed to it but said they would not be having sex. He was fine with it and while she admitted it was a nice evening, she was frustrated that he didn't try anything with her (Even though she admitted she still would have said no).

That's one reason why video games have more appeal than dating nowadays.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 24, 2024 06:13 AM (svLOV)

78 Good luck to all of you Future Retirees!

Retirement was forced on me, and thankfully hubby & I have some savings to draw from. Hope we don't outlive our finances, but thanks to FJB it is looking more and more likely.

If hubby dies before I turn 65, I'm screwed.

Posted by: JQ at September 24, 2024 06:14 AM (njWTi)

79 We've been programmed to believe that our entire self worth depends upon being sexually our romantically desirable. Heroic deeds? Generosity of spirit? Fastidious living? Loser. So too many people approach relationships as some kind of psychological warfare, desperate to achieve victory, terrified of defeat, because they have too much riding on it emotionally to even consider failure.

Relax. Figure out who you are and how to live as You, first. And then maybe you'll wind up getting to share that with someone. Or maybe not. Which is fine.

I'm not directing this at anyone here, it's just a bit of chewing over what I've learned in life.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 24, 2024 06:14 AM (DDGz9)

80 He invited her to his house after a date and she agreed to it but said they would not be having sex. He was fine with it and while she admitted it was a nice evening, she was frustrated that he didn't try anything with her

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Wait

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:15 AM (dDcv5)

81 To have fucking people, with the likes of Sam Altman, who are so intent in creating a mechanism that will basically destroy true interaction between humans, and our world around us, is truly a devastating concept to know.

Posted by: just saying at September 24, 2024 06:15 AM (rzwGB)

82 58 I appreciate your point. But this metric (single women as a percentage of women aged 25-44) doesn't equate to birth rate. (My statistics vocabulary is non-existent so please read charitably.)

and Morgan Stanley:

"Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018."

https://tinyurl.com/26m9hnkn
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 05:47 AM (dDcv5)

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:16 AM (64Zez)

83 Wolfus---

You gotta ask. Sure looks like anything else is interpreted as just talking and the more you talk the less serious you are.

Again, just my opinion, YMMV.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


Ya know... Perhaps a good, old-fashioned PROPOSAL is in order here.

Posted by: JQ at September 24, 2024 06:16 AM (njWTi)

84 Tea. Jasmine. Honey.

'Morning, Cap.

Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 06:16 AM (M6moH)

85 Heroic deeds? Generosity of spirit? Fastidious living? Loser.

I read an essay about how the younger generation sees more appeal in embracing apathy, having no goals and just coasting through life. People their age who have ambitions are looked down on as "try hards." Relationships are an outdated concept and you are supposed to go between partners with the simplicity of changing socks.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 24, 2024 06:18 AM (svLOV)

86 77
That would have been me in my younger days. We agreed on no sex so it will be no sex. At that stage I would be relaxing and having a good time conversing. If she were to start undressing then OK but it wouldn't be me breaking my word.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, le capre sono abusate at September 24, 2024 06:20 AM (qfLjt)

87 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2024 06:21 AM (86W+h)

88 Post 66-

And if anyone has an additional .Kamala Harris version the Bible you can send it to the Babylon Bee at the article site.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2024 06:22 AM (9dSKP)

89 'Morning, Cap.
Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 06:16 AM (M6moH)
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Morning!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 24, 2024 06:23 AM (VdhcA)

90 Fen @88

Needs a sidebar mention. Cobs?

Posted by: creeper at September 24, 2024 06:24 AM (M6moH)

91 I appreciate your point. But this metric (single women as a percentage of women aged 25-44) doesn't equate to birth rate.

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It very much does. Women staying single in order to pursue a career between 25-35 affects birth rate, and women above 35 - even if they weren't single - aren't having very many babies (something like only 15% or less of the total IIRC).

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:24 AM (dDcv5)

92 G'morning all, from Sunny NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach.

Very easy drive up for South Carolina yesterday.

Son's wedding is this weekend, so we have tons of little stuff to get done up here.

BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (L7gdA)

93 mornin yall. Ever feel like you are not getting the rest of the story?

Posted by: fd at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (vFG9F)

94 Posted by: JQ at September 24, 2024 06:16 AM (njWTi)

Indeed.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (3Ope8)

95 93 mornin yall. Ever feel like you are not getting the rest of the story?
Posted by: fd at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (vFG9F)

I blame Walter Cronkite.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (DDGz9)

96 91
How does that statistic mesh with the uptick in numbers of single mothers?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, le capre sono abusate e hanno paura at September 24, 2024 06:30 AM (qfLjt)

97 *I blame Walter Cronkite.*

Perhaps that would be Paul Harvey. Good day!

Posted by: From way back when at September 24, 2024 06:31 AM (DobEs)

98 80 Wait

Exactly. She's not unique either.

"This guy asked me out and I told him no. He doesn't contact me any more. Why didn't he keep trying???"

Maybe because he doesn't feel the need to get #MeToo out of existence like Thanos snapping his fingers.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 24, 2024 06:32 AM (svLOV)

99 Good morning morons

London Breed is running as Kamala's "protege"

She has no record to run on.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2024 06:33 AM (RIvkX)

100 100

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:33 AM (64Zez)

101 and Morgan Stanley:

"Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018."

https://tinyurl.com/26m9hnkn
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 05:47 AM (dDcv5)

I'll go read that.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:34 AM (64Zez)

102 https://thebarentsobserver.com/en

A number of cases of suspected sabotage has taken taken place, several of them against underwater infrastructure.

In early 2022, one of the fiberoptic cables that connect the Arctic archipelago of Svalbard with the Norwegian mainland was disrupted following what investigators believe could have been sabotage.

In November 2021, the Norwegian Marine Research Institute informed that its Lofoten–Vesterålen Ocean Observatory was out of service after about 4 km of a 60 km long underwater cable somehow had disappeared.

And in 2023, the Chinese-Russian vessel Newnew Polarbear became key suspect in the disruption of a gas pipeline and two communication cables in the Baltic Sea. The ship soon fled into Russian Arctic waters

Newnew Polarbesr cargo ship dragged anchor across the undersea Balticconnect between Finland and Estonia.

Posted by: 13times at September 24, 2024 06:35 AM (ynIU8)

103 How does that statistic mesh with the uptick in numbers of single mothers?

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Regardless of what the sitcoms and new detective shows tell us, I'm not entirely sure that "broken children from broken homes with no models for how to work or succeed in relationships" should be the foundation for our future.

Not that it matters because it turns out births by heroic do-anything single moms is down, too. CDC:

" The marital birth rate declined 4% over 2005–2010 but rose 6% from 2010 to 2016 before declining 6% through 2020(12).
The percentage of all births to unmarried women was
39.8% in 2022, down 1% from 2021 (40.0%) (Table 9) (15). The percentage of all births to unmarried women peaked in 2009 at 41.0% (12,15).
The percentage of nonmarital births in 2022 decreased
from 2021 for Asian (12.3% in 2022), Black (69.3%), and White (27.1%) women, and was unchanged for American Indian and Alaska Native (68.1%), Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander (53.2%), and Hispanic (53.2%) women. The number
of nonmarital births declined by less than 1% from 2021 (1,464,455) to 2022 (1,461,305), a nonsignificant change (15)."

https://tinyurl.com/24zu4e86

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:38 AM (7h9jE)

104 BTW, this was from the first non-political link above. I hadn't thought about it before, and it's interesting the ponder that it could've been part of the plan:

"Experts in the field will tell you that the COVID-19 pandemic was supposed to jump-start an increase in the American birth rate."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:43 AM (7h9jE)

105 I honestly don't know if single = never married or not married at this time.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:48 AM (64Zez)

106 And if unmarried = never married or not married at this time.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:49 AM (64Zez)

107 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2024 06:50 AM (u82oZ)

108 104

"Experts in the field will tell you that the COVID-19 pandemic was supposed to jump-start an increase in the American birth rate."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 06:43 AM (7h9jE)
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Doesn't covid vaxx cause miscarriages? If yes then that sentence should read "...... in the American pregnancy rate."

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, abbiamo tutti paura at September 24, 2024 06:51 AM (qfLjt)

109 Anyway, your point is well-taken and good luck with the research.

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:52 AM (64Zez)

110 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

You son's wedding to that amazing woman is a great blessing. We have long desired it.

May the union be blessed in abundance of love, children, and more love.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 24, 2024 06:53 AM (u82oZ)

111 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at September 24, 2024 06:56 AM (UWgy2)

112 This is an atomized society where people have difficulty forming relationships in the real world, and live in fear of the evermore uncertain future our insane leaders are creating.

And locking them all in their houses while you crash the economy was supposed to make them *more* likely to have kids?

Experts, lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 24, 2024 06:57 AM (0FoWg)

113 92 G'morning all, from Sunny NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach.

Very easy drive up for South Carolina yesterday.

Son's wedding is this weekend, so we have tons of little stuff to get done up here.

BBIAB
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2024 06:27 AM (L7gdA)

GAINZZZ!

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 06:59 AM (64Zez)

114 Wolfus, delurking here.....my knowledge of the fairer sex is not great, but maybe a proposal, ring and all is what she wants. Sometimes the suggestion is not what they want, but the gesture or the taking lead as it were.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: Dandalo at September 24, 2024 06:59 AM (3QsZU)

115 Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018."

https://tinyurl.com/26m9hnkn
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
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IVF is big. My daughters are in the younger half of that group and, through them, I know at least five single women I can quickly recall who are storing their eggs in hopes of someday having children. There seems to be an imbalance of greater numbers of professional urbanized women than young, single men.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 24, 2024 07:00 AM (y6l9B)

116 Well, already suggested, but horde mind and all.

Posted by: Dandalo at September 24, 2024 07:01 AM (3QsZU)

117 I wish the health and medical websites would stop this:

"In women and people assigned female at birth..."

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 07:03 AM (64Zez)

118 YD, since you pointed out "atomization" it is worth noting this is also a technique used by the Nazi Party to control Germans. They banned or destroyed every fraternal, cultural, athletic, and social organization and re-created them as Party organs. This was why the Party struggled with the Churches most of which resisted Nazification.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2024 07:06 AM (RIvkX)

119 the dawn of "The Intelligence Age,"
Based on what I'm seeing, especially with the number of people believing all this AI hype, it's more like the dawn of The Age of Willful Gullibility accompanied by The Age of Idiocracy.

Posted by: GWB at September 24, 2024 07:07 AM (doQhm)

120 VIA, May your son and Daughter in law's house always be filled with bread, salt and wine.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2024 07:07 AM (I1GXe)

121 IVF is big. My daughters are in the younger half of that group and, through them, I know at least five single women I can quickly recall who are storing their eggs in hopes of someday having children. There seems to be an imbalance of greater numbers of professional urbanized women than young, single men.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

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Yep. That's been a brilliant push to promote a big time moneymaker for the medical industry for a practice that doesn't have great success rate, all while pretending it "empowers" women.

Waste time with a career (and paying taxes) when you could've had and raised a healthy child naturally for relatively free. Instead work for a decade or more, save your money, and then use the tens of thousands of dollars you worked for years to save up to gamble on a healthy pregnancy.

Absolutely brilliant.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism has failed you and your kids, patriarchy is the only thing that works at September 24, 2024 07:09 AM (7h9jE)

122 Nood

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2024 07:10 AM (RIvkX)

123 This isn't the time or place for this probably but this popped into my head this AM.

Has anyone seen Kamala's birth certificate?

What race does it say or do they still do that now?

Janet Jackson just stepped in it and said she isn't black.
They are going to try and cancel her of course.

Posted by: pawn at September 24, 2024 07:10 AM (QB+5g)

124 "people assigned female at birth"

Who does the assignment?

Having children is something best done when you are younger. That's the way things are designed. It may be the most important thing you will ever do so you will need the energy to keep up.

Posted by: fd at September 24, 2024 07:11 AM (vFG9F)

125 62 31 Sam Altman ≠ Samuel Bankman-Fried

The only difference is that Sam Bankman-Fried got caught.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 24, 2024 05:53 AM (BLOW1)

Not a fan, eh?

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 07:14 AM (64Zez)

126 Good morning, Pixy and the Morons.

Related to the subject of AI: I think it's going to shoved down our throats like bad medicine.

There are a lot of videos about Chinese unemployment and international students finding no work when they return to their home countries. The commenters routinely assert that "White collar jobs can be done by AI" or more rudely, "AI makes you meat-computers obsolete".

I can't help but think how, during the Scamdemic, the Department of Education pushed a lot of online and packaged classes that had been developed over decades. They were of such low quality, it was disgusting to think they were equal to in-person classes, but they checked all the right boxes for curriculum - and most of all, the right people were paid to develop them.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 24, 2024 07:19 AM (fxCK2)

127 Oh, Pixy, you're going to LOVE BOTH of these.

SEPTEMBER 5, 2024

The 100 Most Influential People in AI 2024:

https://tinyurl.com/362yrj97

How We Chose the TIME100 Most Influential People in AI 2024:

https://tinyurl.com/cws23tt4

Posted by: m at September 24, 2024 07:24 AM (64Zez)

128 "Microsoft Azure had negotiated a deal with Redis, he said."

I think I found the problem.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 24, 2024 09:12 AM (i24o9)

129 “ Look, I follow this stuff every single day, and if you told me that Veronica Lake was now set to follow Swan Lake because Rose Madder Lake had been cancelled I would have no idea whether that was real or not.”

Indeed.

Posted by: OnPoint at September 24, 2024 09:21 AM (RK/h9)

130 So what browser do ya'll recommend?

Posted by: Grandalf at September 24, 2024 09:29 AM (nB7Vf)

131 Grady Booch is a name I haven't heard in a long time. Decades ago, I read his book on object-oriented design, which I thought was quite good. (The problem was that OO languages at that time were not up to the task. Now they are, IMHO.) Still, I'm always glad to hear that someone who wrote a good book is still around and doing well.

Posted by: Nemo at September 24, 2024 10:34 AM (S6ArX)

132 way too much fuss is made over "superintelligence"

since the 1970s pocket calculators have outperformed humans at math

the returns to "higher" intelligence are very limited except for a few highly specific tasks

achieving human-level reasoning at scale is what will change everything

a cheap robot that understands "clean my house" and its millions of associated subtasks can replace most remaining unskilled labor

a robot that can do most skilled labor better than humans will truly upend the economy

Posted by: TallDave at September 24, 2024 10:54 AM (qNa2s)

133 >Redis used to be open source. Now it isn't

It is in every way anybody cares about. The only thing it prevents is you selling your own Redis-as-a-Service.

It is easy to forget that the howler monkeys of the open sores community do not represent the vast majority of software developers, who are employed to create products that actually make money.

>features that Redis never had (like multi-threading)

Case in point: Redis is single-threaded deliberately, for performance. There's a massive pile of documentation on this. The actor model of programming is based on the same concepts. When your ability to feed your family is based on knowing how not to kneecap your software, you don't do stupid things like this.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at September 24, 2024 11:03 AM (FMBjj)

134 The problem,with AI is that concepts are just ideas that still need doing.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at September 24, 2024 11:44 AM (7JHuH)

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