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Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44) 2
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 3
Don't battery cars light on fire when they get wet?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 4
top 5?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu) 5
Church of Global Warming is taking over
Posted by: Skip at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (W8wJD) 6
And it can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (W8wJD) 7
Morning.
Looks like I've got a tropical storm heading my way. Francine. Very nice name. Francine is currently pissing down rain on us. Posted by: Robert at September 09, 2024 11:02 AM (1Yy3c) 8
SF GOP snubs Republican in mayoral endorsements, quietly favoring conservative Dems
https://tinyurl.com/3yua8fpp You don't hate the GOPe enough. Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 09, 2024 11:02 AM (/U5Yz) 9
What, wind-sail-powered cars were not available?
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 11:03 AM (UlDWm) 10
I certainly hope Georgia taxpayer money isn’t being used for this boondoggle.
--- Someone's palms are being greased. That much is certain. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 09, 2024 11:03 AM (7fElN) 11
If they are being sold as administrative vehicles, and being that there are only 4 of them, they are going to be used to pick up lunch orders and ferry around the cousins, wives and daughters of the well connected.
Hey, if the people of that town allow them to get away with wasting their tax dollars that's on them. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 09, 2024 11:03 AM (XV/Pl) 12
I'm sure this will work out well.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM (CIS44) 13
"...are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community."
Oddly enough, those reduced costs are never enumerated. Which means they aren't any. Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM (Rbu5d) 14
WunderKraut to the rescue!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM (Zz0t1) 15
"Thank you, WunderKraut, for that outstanding contribution."
Yes indeed, WunderKraut -- your contribution was WUNDERBAR! Posted by: Doof at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM (RhGG0) 16
Don’t overlook the prestige factor of some broke ass small town Georgia policeman telling his buddies “I drive a Tesla!!!” They don’t care how well it will work, it makes them look cool.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (GlxLj) 17
Hopefully it's only a pilot program and will be properly vetted and circular filed accordingly.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1) 18
"The Tesla Model Y vehicles are a part of the city’s electric vehicle pilot program and are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community"
sure, sure. Posted by: BignJames at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR) 19
Just wait until the town get the bills for new batteries and tires, if the cars last that long.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (QNSds) 20
I look forward to the article about looters stealing Tesla cop cars with a tow truck after a bad storm, and escaping the town without being pursued.
Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (z+ik4) 21
>>For a small, rural city like Douglas, GA to make such a colossally bad decision, there likely had to be other incentives, by which I mean taxpayer money of some sort finding its way to Douglas to motivate its PD to engage in an “electric vehicle pilot program.”
Probably a federal program, maybe even like the school lunch program, where they withhold fund unless you meet their "green" demands. Maybe also a city council member whose relative owns an EV car dealership. . . Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2024 11:05 AM (Pijte) 22
Morning.
Looks like I've got a tropical storm heading my way. Francine. Very nice name. Francine is currently pissing down rain on us. Posted by: Robert at September 09, 2024 *** I may see effects from it tomorrow or the next day. This morning I made sure to gas up the Buick, and this evening I'll stock up on some canned goods and water, in case we lose power. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu) 23
The Tesla Model Y vehicles are a part of the city’s electric vehicle pilot program and are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community.
--------------- Damn, that's Babylon Bee-worthy comedy gold right there ... Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (UlDWm) 24
I don't mind this as an experiment. I just would wish that the results of the experiment will be heeded.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (xcxpd) 25
Don't battery cars light on fire when they get wet?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) You know that it would be untrue, you know that I would be a liar, if I was to say to you, EVs never catch on fire! Posted by: Doof at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (RhGG0) 26
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>>Oddly enough, those reduced costs are never enumerated. Which means they aren't any. Inherently, there can't be, because you have to build up and maintain an entirely separate support structure for these vehicles. As always, follow the money, someone's getting paid and it ain't Joe Blow Taxpayer. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (XV/Pl) 27
What, wind-sail-powered cars were not available?
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 11:03 AM (UlDWm) They could jack up one edge of the county, so the cop cars can all roll downhill. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:07 AM (nK4uM) 28
Maybe the tax payers can just go to the police station and strip the chargers.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:07 AM (CIS44) 29
Add "possibly burned to a crisp" to all the other dangers cops face.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 09, 2024 11:07 AM (3RJUg) 30
Don't battery cars light on fire when they get wet?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) Yes, but if you have a tropical storm's worth of water on hand, you can eventually extinguish it. So there is that. Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2024 11:07 AM (z+ik4) 31
At least Tesla also sells nifty solar battery chargers, but at a hefty price.
As noted in previous EV posts, this also put the whole police fleet at risk if one of these vehicles spontaneously combusts while parked at the station/in the police garage. Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (Pijte) 32
They could jack up one edge of the county, so the cop cars can all roll downhill.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon a I'd be worried the county would tip over. -Hank Johnson (Retard- GA) Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (CIS44) 33
I'm sure this will work out well.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM (CIS44) That's what Michigan fans said when DEI Sherrone Moore was promoted to HC. Posted by: one hour sober at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (Y1sOo) 34
First guess a police department might have access to a generator but don't a EV take a bit more juice than a 110ac?
And luckily if they don't get them until after hurricane season it will be maybe 7 months to settle in before the 2025 season gets here. Posted by: Skip at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (W8wJD) 35
I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl) 36
I may see effects from it tomorrow or the next day. This morning I made sure to gas up the Buick, and this evening I'll stock up on some canned goods and water, in case we lose power.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu) Bottled water...check. Marshmallows, chocolate and cookies...check, check and check. I'm ready to go. Posted by: Robert at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (1Yy3c) 37
"The Tesla Model Y vehicles are a part of the city’s electric vehicle pilot program and are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community"
-------- Expected by whom? Someone born yesterday? Posted by: Just Lily at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (PTggi) 38
In the event of a successful PIT maneuver, what if the battery pack is compromised and the car quickly becomes engulfed in flames?
Now imagine you've got a suspect in the back seat. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (nR2nR) 39
That's what Michigan fans said when DEI Sherrone Moore was promoted to HC. Posted by: one hour sober at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (Y1sOo) Their game against Texas showed that football can be hard when you don't know the play the opposing team is running. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (Zz0t1) 40
Bottled water...check. Marshmallows, chocolate and cookies...check, check and check. I'm ready to go. Posted by: Robert at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (1Yy3c) Hmm. I don't see a handle of bourbon on that list. Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (z+ik4) 41
. For a small, rural city like Douglas, GA to make such a colossally bad decision, there likely had to be other incentives, by which I mean taxpayer money of some sort finding its way to Douglas to motivate its PD to engage in an “electric vehicle pilot program.”
What? Posted by: Gov. Kemp at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (xCA6C) 42
When you look at the person(s) that made this stupid decision you will find DEI hires.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (17s+e) 43
https://is.gd/9H0SkA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl) HA! 'She looks like she drove her kids into a lake in 1986." Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) 44
35 I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl) Looks like a movie poster for "Weird Al: The High School Years." Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (KbCG3) 45
Counterpoint, which negates all of his points:
Every one of the EV patrol cars will be used in speed traps and traffic enforcement. His points are all valid in Heritage America, where the police protect and serve the community. But why risk "not coming home at night" when you can pull over retirees going 4 mph over the speed limit? PS: They purchased the EVs to boost their ESG rating with Blackrock for their next bond tax increase; gotta get a new football stadium for the high school! Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (46pnR) 46
Their game against Texas showed that football can be hard when you don't know the play the opposing team is running.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden Stallions in his first game as HC lost 60-0, that was after giving up 40 in his previous game as DC. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (CIS44) 47
And mentioned here in Delaware getting gas at a Wawa but next to it is the biggest EV charging station with bet at least 12 spots from Tesla
Posted by: Skip at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (W8wJD) 48
Criminals for EV's is likely a growing community.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (Q4IgG) 49
WunderKraut to the rescue!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:04 AM I saw WunderKraut open for Kraftwerk in '85. Funky sounds. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (ZANHd) 50
🎵 And the pie in the sky keeps on turnin' Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (/7KEl) 51
Talked to a friend last night. Old world harley guy who hasn't had a bike in some years. He's looking for another but isn't sure what to buy. He never rode a softail, so I said well there is 3 different ones in the garage here, take a ride down and we'll take them out and see if you like that style bike. he said his friend just got into bikes and bought one of those electric kawasaki ninja things. I asked "will he be coming"?
His answer- No, he'll never make it home. *snicker* Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (VwHCD) 52
42 When you look at the person(s) that made this stupid decision you will find DEI hires.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (17s+e) Was just going to say, this decision was made by some donk who is either: A) An AWFL B) A soy-based "male" who fantasizes about being an AWFL Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (KbCG3) 53
evening I'll stock up on some canned goods and water, in case we lose power.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius When Hurricane Isabel hit the DC area in 2003, the ABC store (state-run liquor store) in our area closed down early. Talk about bummed-out people (including yours truly). Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (v6JzV) 54
I saw WunderKraut open for Kraftwerk in '85. Funky sounds.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 11:10 AM (ZANHd) A......toh......bahn...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (Zz0t1) 55
Don't battery cars light on fire when they get wet?
Posted by: Sponge 🎵 Like A Wick, ooooooh, Like A Wick! 🎵
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 56
Hmm. I don't see a handle of bourbon on that list.
Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (z+ik4) I got enough bourbon and vermouth to make Manhattan's for a long time to come. ![]() Posted by: Robert at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (1Yy3c) 57
https://is.gd/9H0SkA
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 *** She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu) Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (/7KEl) 59
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That's what Michigan fans said when DEI Sherrone Moore was promoted to HC. Posted by: one hour sober at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (Y1sOo) Their game against Texas showed that football can be hard when you don't know the play the opposing team is running. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:09 AM (Zz0t1) Texas could've told them the plays and it wouldn't have mattered. Michigan has no QB and no run game. Kind of a bad recipe. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (KbCG3) 60
She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, I was thinking a slightly more femme David Koresh. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:13 AM (CIS44) 61
I certainly hope Georgia taxpayer money isn’t being used for this boondoggle.
Probably federal. That way taxpayers in the other 56 states can pay for it. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 09, 2024 11:13 AM (nR2nR) 62
She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister
With a little work, including facial hair removal, she could be made to look passable, but I guess that's too much to ask. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:13 AM (xCA6C) 63
57 https://is.gd/9H0SkA
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 *** She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu) She looks like the last costume left at a Halloween pop-up store. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:13 AM (KbCG3) 64
I got to spend a lot of time in and around the local hospital. They run a small visiting nurse service with about 6 vehicles. One of them is a Mitsubishi EV. Guess which one rarely, if ever, left the parking lot.
Posted by: Took A Turn For The Nurse at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (CV8a5) 65
Texas could've told them the plays and it wouldn't have mattered. Michigan has no QB and no run game. Kind of a bad recipe.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer a Gives me some hope Sparty can pull the upset in a few weeks, just gotta get Chiles to take care of the ball a bit better. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (CIS44) 66
Look on the bright side, the EV can be tapped to provide electricity to the Police Department offices should the lights go out. Basically, a very expensive battery.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (W3T6M) 67
"A soy-based "male" who fantasizes about being an AWFL"
Police chief looks like he is stocked up on twinkies and ten year olds. Posted by: Ribbed at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (iFMeW) 68
What, wind-sail-powered cars were not available?
The previous-world Disney features I liked the best were Donald in MathMagic Land, and The Legend of Wind Wagon Smith. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (zdLoL) 69
65 Texas could've told them the plays and it wouldn't have mattered. Michigan has no QB and no run game. Kind of a bad recipe.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer a Gives me some hope Sparty can pull the upset in a few weeks, just gotta get Chiles to take care of the ball a bit better. Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (CIS44) I think any team playing Michigan has to feel that if they put up 21 points, they have a real good shot at winning. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (KbCG3) 70
When Hurricane Isabel hit the DC area in 2003, the ABC store (state-run liquor store) in our area closed down early. Talk about bummed-out people (including yours truly). Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 *** Well, I don't have to worry about that. (Besides, liquor here is sold in grocery stores.) Or cookies and the like, as I don't eat those now either. Canned meat, bread, cheese, etc., would be on my list. I *am* worried about coffee withdrawal symptoms. I need to brew up a pot of the stuff and refrigerate it, so I'll have some to sip. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu) 71
Counterpoint, which negates all of his points:
Every one of the EV patrol cars will be used in speed traps and traffic enforcement. Speed traps and traffic enforcement usually involve chases and PIT maneuvers.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 72
>She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister
--- she looks like a tranny 🎶 doo doo doo dude look like a lady Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:15 AM (/7KEl) 73
https://is.gd/9H0SkA
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 Jeepers, Daniel Radcliffe really let himself go. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at September 09, 2024 11:15 AM (xPJvm) 74
Police departments are funded by taxpayers. Of course the taxpayer is being used to fund this EV boondoggle.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:15 AM (tT6L1) 75
Police Department Storm contingency plan:
1. String a wire from the clock tower 2. Rig a hook from the back of the cruiser 3. Accelerate the EV police cruiser to 86 mph 4. Catch the hook on the wire strung from the clock tower at exactly the same moment as the lightning bolt hits 5. This will accomplish an ultra-rapid full capacity charge. /Police Chief Emmet "Doc" Brown Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2024 11:15 AM (991eG) 76
Gives me some hope Sparty can pull the upset in a few weeks, just gotta get Chiles to take care of the ball a bit better.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:14 AM (CIS44) Struggling mightily against Maryland doesn't give warm fuzzies...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1) 77
I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:08 AM (L/fGl) In fairness, they said could be. If you were to kill off the 3-4 billion more attractive females, she'd be right up there. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 09, 2024 11:16 AM (nR2nR) 78
Another thing, the total revenue of 11.7k Douglas, GA?
$75 million dollars. Think about the size of a corporation that has $75 million in annual revenue. But yeah, it's big business that's ruining America. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 09, 2024 11:16 AM (46pnR) 79
Jeepers, Daniel Radcliffe really let himself go.
It's kinda hard to believe, but Emma Watson is 34. I remember when there were lots of pervs who couldn't wait for her to turn 18. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C) 80
Talked to a friend last night. Old world harley guy who hasn't had a bike in some years.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2024 11:11 AM (VwHCD) "Newest" I ever had was a '44 flat head...80 cid. Posted by: BignJames at September 09, 2024 11:17 AM (AwYPR) 81
This doesn't seem too absurd, potentially. The two "administrative" vehicles, assuming they're just used during regular office hours for staff to run random errands, training, etc, would seem to be the perfect use for an electric vehicle.
The "patrol" vehicles are a bit more concerning. I'd normally not worry too much about the issue of needing all your squad card out at once, for extended periods of time, but a quick search says Douglas, GA is only 11,000 people, so their department can't be THAT large. Still, those Tesla chargers are pretty fast, so I assume they could charge the normal 100ish mile patrol during shift changes or when writing reports. The bigger concern for me is damage. Police cars get bumped up quite a bit, and it doesn't take too serious a smack to risk damaging the battery and causing all sorts of problems. I went to the Douglas City PD site to see how big their Department is. It didn't say, but they did have a picture of their Chief. Reminds me of Brian Stelter lol. https://tinyurl.com/3szwbcwf Posted by: Military Moron at September 09, 2024 11:17 AM (JCZqz) 82
In fairness, they said could be. If you were to kill off the 3-4 billion more attractive females, she'd be right up there.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 09, 2024 *** Also in fairness, we are probably rating her on the lefty-commie poison that we know is in her mind. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu) 83
If any readers have any knowledge of the unseen hands that would guide a town such as Douglas, GA to buy electric police cruisers, please let me know at the email address below
Joe Xiden moved to Douglas GA and was somehow elected Mayor/ Chief of Police? Posted by: Chuck C at September 09, 2024 11:18 AM (yOPBE) 84
evening I'll stock up on some canned goods and water, in case we lose power.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius When Hurricane Isabel hit the DC area in 2003, the ABC store (state-run liquor store) in our area closed down early. Talk about bummed-out people (including yours truly). P When Alicia hit Galveston in '83, myself and my roommate had went to the store on Monday and stocked up. When it came in, we dpent that Friday sitting on Seawall Blvd drinking at one of the few bars still open.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 85
In fairness, they said could be. If you were to kill off the 3-4 billion more attractive females, she'd be right up there.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 09, 2024 11:16 AM (nR2nR) --------------- Celibacy is now an option. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:18 AM (tT6L1) 86
Most areas of the country experience power outages for one reason or another. Maybe infrequently, but it happens. Why in the hell would a police department or a fire department even consider an EV unless there was some sort of political pressure followed by a payoff?
Seriously... it's about the only way they'd consider one. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 09, 2024 11:18 AM (Q4IgG) 87
all seriousness aside, there is a school district out here that needed to replace some old diesel buses with something more eco-friendly
they passed on EV and went with propane, knowing EV school buses would be a disaster in the Colorado winter so somebody was on the ball in that meeting Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:18 AM (/7KEl) 88
I do not want to live in any world where QueMala's step "daughter" is the world's most beautiful women or even though of in the upper 40% of beautiful women.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (17s+e) 89
I went to the Douglas City PD site to see how big their Department is. It didn't say, but they did have a picture of their Chief. Reminds me of Brian Stelter lol.
https://tinyurl.com/3szwbcwf Posted by: Military Moron Is he too, a sex machine? Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (CIS44) 90
Department of Energy is like the Department of Education - they regift state taxpayers money with all sorts of foolish rules attached. It would be simpler to keep most meaningful decisions at the local, rather than federal, level.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (W3T6M) 91
I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA The word "could" is doing an awful lot of work in that sentence. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (/y8xj) 92
I am a car guy and an engineer. There is definitely a place for electric vehicles in our transportation ecosystem. I am not on the "all EVs bad!" train. I am literally invested - at least a little bit - in the success of Tesla.
It is unclear how many cars DPD has in total and what the usage of these vehicles would be. I note they say "patrol and administrative." So may not be intended for PIT maneuvers and the batteries are impact rated to some extent or else the cars wouldn't be approved for use on the road. I see Teslas throughout Florida so the infrastructure for charging and maintenance definitely exists in the area. Fast charging is not significantly longer than stopping for gas. A Model Y costs about what a Tahoe police package does, but the Tesla probably costs a bit more to add police items to as the Tahoe is already built for it. I am sure some Federal dollars are involved in an EV Pilot Progam so that's objectionable, of course, but if they are going to do it, I think Tesla is a better platform than any of the other EVs out there. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (xhfG9) 93
https://is.gd/9H0SkA
Most beautiful woman in the world? Sheesh. As a Navy colleague of mine used to observe "There ain't no night dark enough or bottle of Jack Daniels big enough." Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV) 94
I did not have "illegal immigrants eating house pets" on my bingo card.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (8imLP) 95
Talked to a friend last night. Old world harley guy who hasn't had a bike in some years.
Be interesting to see if he likes the CVO breakout. Definitely rides a little different with that fat back tire, but not in a bad way. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (luW68) 96
I went to the Douglas City PD site to see how big their Department is. It didn't say, but they did have a picture of their Chief. Reminds me of Brian Stelter lol.
Recently retired from his job as the Pillsbury Dough Boy. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C) 97
Tangentially related having to do with LE agencies and "safetyism" and police follies.
Over the weekend the local cops involved with the search for the I-75 shooter in Kentucky announced that they were suspending the search over safety concerns due to darkness. They made this announcement at 3:00 am. Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (991eG) 98
Do they make a tire strong enough to handle the weight of the EV AND all the extras added to it for police packages?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1) 99
Naturalfake, thanks for your Beetlejuice review in previous thread! I've always has issues with Puck-like characters in stories causing mayhem, so I'm ok if he's not in it a lot. Just enough to keep the mayhem going.
Apparently there was talk of having Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis do cameos, but it was scrapped. Good. I'd like to think it doing well will encourage Hollywood to give visionary filmmakers a chance, but the only takeaway they'll have is "more sequels!" Not getting that a beloved quirky director, plus a good cast, plus great timing before Halloween, is what is creating the appeal. Posted by: LizLem at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (QAK8m) 100
>but they did have a picture of their Chief. Reminds me of Brian Stelter
--- that pudge looks like he just swallowed Stelter whole Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (/7KEl) 101
Seems that EVs are very prone to being a write off in even small accidents
Posted by: Skip at September 09, 2024 11:21 AM (W8wJD) 102
Apparently there was talk of having Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis do cameos, but it was scrapped. Good.
Director wasn't looking for a murder on set. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1) 103
I went to the Douglas City PD site to see how big their Department is. It didn't say, but they did have a picture of their Chief. Reminds me of Brian Stelter lol.
https://tinyurl.com/3szwbcwf Posted by: Military Moron at September 09, 2024 11:17 AM (JCZqz) A less masculine Stelter. Seriously, how can you have an effective force run by a guy who can't see his own dick? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:21 AM (KbCG3) 104
Leftists: The triumph of agenda over reason. Am still concerned that too many Public Schools are teaching students how to "group think" rather than teach Students how to think for themselves...
Posted by: Pete at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (0Ctrb) 105
Mmm... delicious!
Posted by: Sucking on the taxpayer teat at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (DobEs) 106
TRUMP!
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (aIU4O) 107
Apparently there was talk of having Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis do cameos, but it was scrapped. Good.
Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis? Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C) 108
https://is.gd/9H0SkA
"Most beautiful woman in the world? Sheesh." U G L Y, you aint got no alibi, you ugly, yeah yeah you ugly! Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (C26rB) 109
Still waiting on Element 115 and anti-gravity performance. Its the only way we get flying cars.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (W3T6M) 110
Still waiting on Element 115 and anti-gravity performance. Its the only way we get flying cars.
Posted by: Pudinhead a I just want my hoverboard BttF Part II promised me! Posted by: BruceWayne at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (CIS44) 111
It's a write off, Jerry. They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (DobEs) 112
Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C) --------------- Cutthroat Island has a long memory. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (tT6L1) 113
104 Leftists: The triumph of agenda over reason. Am still concerned that too many Public Schools are teaching students how to "group think" rather than teach Students how to think for themselves...
----------------- So, the blue hair, nose rings and tats were a tell? Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (W3T6M) 114
94 I did not have "illegal immigrants eating house pets" on my bingo card.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (8imLP) Seriously, what the AF. Why are they not using food stamps to buy meat in the grocery store like everyone else? Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (ZtyUu) 115
First thing I would check are the travel of the elected county reps to see who had an all expenses paid "Fact Finding" trip to someplace nice. Good money says it was paid for by whoever sells EV cop cars.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (W/lyH) 116
Still waiting on Element 115 and anti-gravity performance. Its the only way we get flying cars.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 *** Wegovium! It removes the weight and keeps it off! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu) 117
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"Most beautiful woman in the world? Sheesh." Finally! Someone's posting my kinda gal for a change! Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (JCZqz) 118
98 Do they make a tire strong enough to handle the weight of the EV AND all the extras added to it for police packages?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1) Model Y curbweight is ~4200 lbs. A Tahoe curbweight is 5500 lbs. Both of those are before addition of police equipment. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:24 AM (xhfG9) Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:24 AM (/y8xj) 120
114 94 I did not have "illegal immigrants eating house pets" on my bingo card.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (8imLP) Seriously, what the AF. Why are they not using food stamps to buy meat in the grocery store like everyone else? Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (ZtyUu) Haitians want to hunt. They don't want to be fed! Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:24 AM (KbCG3) 121
Model Y curbweight is ~4200 lbs. A Tahoe curbweight is 5500 lbs.
Both of those are before addition of police equipment. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:24 AM (xhfG9) Tahoe tires are MUCH bigger than car tires. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) 122
Maybe we point the Haitians at the feral hog problem? Everyone wins.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1) 123
107 Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C) ======== She married Renny Harlin! Isn't that enough reason to hate her? Her judgement seems to be shit. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO) 124
Gas stations can't pump gasoline during a power outage either, which is why I keep 25+ gallons of non-ethanol gas in my garage at all times.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (CV8a5) 125
Why are they not using food stamps to buy meat in the grocery store like everyone else?
Store-bought meat lacks a certain piquancy that can be had only from overfed dogs. Posted by: Haitians at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C) 126
122 Maybe we point the Haitians at the feral hog problem? Everyone wins.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1) or they can go catch snakes in FL. Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 11:26 AM (ZtyUu) 127
Maybe we point the Haitians at the feral hog problem? Everyone wins.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1) Send the Haitians home with the hogs and let them eat there. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1) 128
https://is.gd/9H0SkA
"Most beautiful woman in the world? Sheesh." M A M A, that's how you got that way, your MAMA, yeah yeah your MAMA! Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (C26rB) 129
population 11,722
52% black 34% white I wonder how many police cars they have in total? Article just say "quite a few", and 2 of the Teslas will be for administrative use, only 2 for patrol. Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (Cus5s) 130
Both the illegal immigrants and Canada geese are considered pests and foreign invaders.
Posted by: Hmmm...rubs chin at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (DobEs) 131
126 122 Maybe we point the Haitians at the feral hog problem? Everyone wins.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1) -------------- Shouldn't this read point the Feral Hogs at the Haitians and everyone wins? Posted by: Pudinhead at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (W3T6M) 132
>>>Her judgement seems to be shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle ----------------------------- She was typecast. Posted by: Braenyard at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (X/njp) 133
125 Why are they not using food stamps to buy meat in the grocery store like everyone else?
Store-bought meat lacks a certain piquancy that can be had only from overfed dogs. wait until they discover the unique flavors of roadkill. like umami, but with a touch of 10w40. Posted by: rfk jr at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (oY6Yp) 134
"Haitians want to hunt. They don't want to be fed!"
Wait until their kids start disappearing. Human sacrifice is real in Haiti. Posted by: Ribbed at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (iFMeW) 135
>which is why I keep 25+ gallons of non-ethanol gas in my garage at all times.
--- and someday, the USGS will give that crater a name! I kid of course Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:27 AM (/7KEl) 136
Last summer we had a barn fire in an outbuilding we had to respond to. I ran our diesel powered Engine for 7 hrs pumping about 150 gpm on average. We were almost on empty by the end of the incident.
There is no way an electric fire truck would have lasted and they are about two times the cost to own and operate. I know one of the sales guys at Rosenbauer where we buy our truck(close by) and he is trying to sell these with gihugic diesel generators on board. There is 'grant money' involved, you are all subsidizing this madness. Posted by: Danimal28 at September 09, 2024 11:28 AM (klw0w) 137
Send the Haitians home
Posted by: Sponge Feeding them ain't our business.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 138
They could jack up one edge of the county, so the cop cars can all roll downhill.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:07 AM (nK4uM) -------------- Heh BREAKING: Rep. Hank Johnson (Genius - Guam) Introduces Legislation to ... Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 11:28 AM (iy0Lg) 139
>>> I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
Genderswapped Weird Al. Hopefully if Kamala fails to get elected, the left will stop trying to make her stepdaughter happen as a fashion icon. Posted by: LizLem at September 09, 2024 11:28 AM (QAK8m) 140
I am reminded of a story during Hurricane Michael which hit FL as a cat 5. A family evacuated as instructed and were very happy when they returned home to find their house relatively unscathed. Unfortunately, a day later their EV in the garage which was flooded caught on fire and burned the whole house down. Fabulous.
Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2024 11:28 AM (oiNtH) 141
Gas is gas unless you are running it in your 2-cycle.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 09, 2024 11:29 AM (X/njp) 142
If you recall, after the last major hurricane in Florida, Teslas had a problem with water in the battery compartment causing fires
Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:29 AM (RHGPo) 143
I don't know the recharge time would be after an 8 hour shift, but I bet it will take three EV cars to cover a 24 hour day.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 09, 2024 11:29 AM (W/lyH) 144
Feeding them ain't our business. Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 09, 2024 11:28 AM (A7Jfs) I imagine it would work out the hogs would eat better than the Haitians. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1) 145
I know one of the sales guys at Rosenbauer where we buy our truck(close by) and he is trying to sell these with gihugic diesel generators on board.
"Gihugic". Excellent. I was really tired of Ginormous. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:29 AM (xCA6C) 146
Good odds on the south Atlantic coast catching one this year.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 09, 2024 11:30 AM (X/njp) 147
135 >which is why I keep 25+ gallons of non-ethanol gas in my garage at all times.
--- and someday, the USGS will give that crater a name! I kid of course Posted by: Don Black That's why I only smoke crack in my garden shed. Posted by: Semper Paratus. at September 09, 2024 11:30 AM (CV8a5) Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2024 11:30 AM (17s+e) 149
From the everything old is new again dept, French cargo ship has gone back to using sails.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (I1GXe) 150
famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"The only thing we have… is fear itself." — Franklin D. Roosevelt Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (RHGPo) 151
Good odds on the south Atlantic coast catching one this year.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 09, 2024 11:30 AM (X/njp) We're supposed to be dead from all the climate change caused Katrina's every 2 to 3 weeks........ Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1) 152
Maybe we point the Haitians at the feral hog problem? Everyone wins.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1) or they can go catch snakes in FL. Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 11:26 AM I hear they have a big iguana problem, too. The Haitians could get dinner and a stylin' belt or two. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (ZANHd) 153
I'd love to see an enterprising moron put a recharging pole up in front of a donut shop in that county.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (W/lyH) 154
Lithium batteries are very susceptible to salt water infiltration, and those EVs could literally catch fire while just being driven during a storm on a coast.
Posted by: SDN at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (2L0fX) 155
123 107 Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C) ======== She married Renny Harlin! Isn't that enough reason to hate her? Her judgement seems to be shit. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO) She's an actress, so automatically sus but...she's a good archer. I gotta respect a woman who can actually shoot a bow. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd) 156
From the everything old is new again dept, French cargo ship has gone back to using sails.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (I1GXe) I guess don't expect "Just in Time Delivery"? Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (C26rB) 157
Tahoe tires are MUCH bigger than car tires.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) Are they? Stock tire size for a 2024 Tahoe is P265-65-18 LT (light truck) tire. Stock tire size for a Model Y is 255-45-19 XL (extra load) In short, yes, they make tires that will support the weight of a Tesla with police equipment. The Model Y is closer to an SUV which is why I have been using a Tahoe for comparison, but comparing to a Dodge Charger, the Charger curb weight is about 200 lbs more than a Model Y. And this is the last year it is being produced. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (xhfG9) Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo) 159
They trade the EBT cards for cash
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (MpVUb) Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (/7KEl) 161
155 She's an actress, so automatically sus but...she's a good archer. I gotta respect a woman who can actually shoot a bow.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd) ====== I'd forgotten that factoid. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO) 162
"those EVs could literally catch fire while just being driven during a storm on a coast."
Yeah, but combustion engines use explosive gases to power them. That's way more dangerous. Posted by: Ribbed at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (B0mGw) 163
>>> 155 123 107 Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C) ======== She married Renny Harlin! Isn't that enough reason to hate her? Her judgement seems to be shit. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO) She's an actress, so automatically sus but...she's a good archer. I gotta respect a woman who can actually shoot a bow. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd) Longbow or crossbow??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2024 11:33 AM (FnneF) 164
From the everything old is new again dept, French cargo ship has gone back to using sails.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (I1GXe) I guess don't expect "Just in Time Delivery"? Hopefully they remember how to cure scurvy. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C) 165
famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that men are... endowed... well." — Declaration of Independence Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:33 AM (RHGPo) 166
158 famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"Ask not." — John F. Kennedy Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo) "Ax not." Posted by: Kamala Harris, depending on the venue at September 09, 2024 11:33 AM (PiwSw) 167
If I am ever in a low-speed pursuit by an EV Police car in my Hummer H1, I'm just going to ... keep driving. There's literally nothing they can do to stop me (spike strips don't work on my truck) and, well - with over 500 miles of range before I need to fill up - I can rest assured that Woke PD can't catch me.
Yes yes I know, can't outrun a radio. Stop being pragmatic about my outlaw fantasy! Posted by: Defenestratus at September 09, 2024 11:33 AM (driNf) 168
famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"I did... that woman." — Bill Clinton Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (RHGPo) 169
Hopefully they remember how to cure scurvy. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 *** "Rope yarn Sunday today!" ( -- The young Hornblower's paranoid captain, in Lieutenant Hornblower) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (J2vNu) 170
Most beautiful woman in the world? Sheesh.
As a Navy colleague of mine used to observe "There ain't no night dark enough or bottle of Jack Daniels big enough." Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV) My first thought was "cruel", but then I looked back at the picture, and it's fitting. Also, I'm stealing that. ![]() Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (UyrjH) 171
She's an actress, so automatically sus but...she's a good archer. I gotta respect a woman who can actually shoot a bow. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd) ------------- Sure you're not confusing her with Jessica Biel, who took out a camera during the filming of Blade III? Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (tT6L1) 172
Longbow or crossbow??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket That depends, is the target laden or unladen? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 09, 2024 11:35 AM (9rrXC) 173
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‘ B) A soy-based "male" who fantasizes about being an AWFL ’ You could’ve typed David Hogg faster. Posted by: We all know that it is skin color. Just admit it already. at September 09, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc) 174
>>> Alex Baldwin I get, but why do we now hate Geena Davis?
Oh I don't hate her! But I can't stand Baldwin, and they are kind of a package deal. It would be weird to have her character without the husband. (The only thing about her that's odd is she started the Geena Davis Institute, to promote women and DEI in film. But on the scale of Marxism in Hollywood that's pretty tame) I did see Beetlejuice the musical. They made the Geena Davis character black, and they were repressed normies until Beetlejuice helped them get their inner weird on. It was a weird take. But they upped the Lydia backstory and explained more about her mom, and created a better dynamic between her and her dad and stepmom. That part of it was really good. I have no idea how much Burton was involved in the musical. Posted by: LizLem at September 09, 2024 11:35 AM (QAK8m) 175
Gas is gas unless you are running it in your 2-cycle.
Posted by: Braenyard Gas & ethanol free gas are not the same. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 176
famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"You miss one hundred percent of the shots you... take." — Wayne Gretzky Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo) 177
171 Sure you're not confusing her with Jessica Biel, who took out a camera during the filming of Blade III?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (tT6L1) ====== Davis is Olympic level, if I remember correctly. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO) 178
From the everything old is new again dept, French cargo ship has gone back to using sails.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (I1GXe) Well, that might be a practical use for wind power. Mechanized rigging that can be controlled by a a joystick in the bridge. Use the sails when winds are favorable to reduce fuel consumption. A hybrid, if you will. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:37 AM (nK4uM) 179
Last time I checked, police vehicles ran 30,000 miles per year on average. That is two complete sets of tire every six months.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 09, 2024 11:37 AM (Wyvk/) 180
The previous-world Disney features I liked the best were Donald in MathMagic Land, and The Legend of Wind Wagon Smith.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver China does Disney. https://is.gd/NEqPYA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:37 AM (L/fGl) 181
SF GOP snubs Republican in mayoral endorsements, quietly favoring conservative Dems
You don't hate the GOPe enough. Posted by: Maj. Healey If they want to even be heard, they have to support the least radical Dem. It's survival. The R word is toxic here. Posted by: SFGoth at September 09, 2024 11:37 AM (KAi1n) 182
>famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"People need to know whether or not the President is a crook. Well, I'm... a crook!" Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:38 AM (/7KEl) 183
Yes yes I know, can't outrun a radio. Stop being pragmatic about my outlaw fantasy!
Posted by: Defenestratus The day is here that wrong think and fantasy can get you in more trouble than actually doing the deed. Conspiracy to commit... Please be careful! Posted by: Dire Warning at September 09, 2024 11:38 AM (CV8a5) 184
Why do EVs have a place in the ecosystem? Tiny niches maybe? But exactly where and why? Very hard to see that case being made. Disallowing absurd “environmental” rationale, eliminating subsidies (no public good = no rationale for subsidies), what’s the case?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bAH4u) 185
Gas & ethanol free gas are not the same.
Ask me how I know. Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 09, 2024 *** E0 is hard to find in my area. The convenience store I go to for Exxon has E0, though it's not an Exxon-branded fuel, so I don't get my .10/gal. discount on that. I compromise by loading half a tank of E0 and half of E10. The E0 has not dropped in price, though the E10 has. There's now a .60 differential between E10 and E0 at that station. Probably it does not pay me to use the E0; but I'd like them to keep selling it, so I use it every week or two. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:39 AM (J2vNu) 186
China does Disney.
https://is.gd/NEqPYA I wouldn't get anything from Temu. Apparently you have to install their app, and it's just straight-up spyware. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C) 187
Davis is Olympic level, if I remember correctly.
I haven't paid attention to the Olympics in a couple of decades now but it seems like if she'd made it there, we would have heard about it. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (/y8xj) 188
If they want to even be heard, they have to support the least radical Dem. It's survival. The R word is toxic here.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 09, 2024 11:37 AM (KAi1n) ----------------- It's SF. I have to assume the very real possibility the D candidate is more conservative than the R candidate. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (tT6L1) 189
famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
“Too much of what’s happening in our country today is … normal. Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent … the very foundations of our republic.” — Joe Biden Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (RHGPo) 190
Any word on how the legroom is on a Tesla Model Y with a large, obese copper in the front seat?
Posted by: Planning Ahead at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (CV8a5) 191
Why do EVs have a place in the ecosystem? Tiny niches maybe? But exactly where and why? Very hard to see that case being made. Disallowing absurd “environmental” rationale, eliminating subsidies (no public good = no rationale for subsidies), what’s the case?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bAH4u) EV cop cars would be good for sneaking up on kids necking in Lovers' Lane. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (nK4uM) 192
Do they make a tire strong enough to handle the weight of the EV AND all the extras added to it for police packages?
===== Is the EV heavier and harder on existing roads? Posted by: mustbequantum at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (eRfHZ) 193
Geena Davis wore a pink bikini in Earth Girls Are Easy and I think it was cold on the set that day
but the hottie in that movie was Julie Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Wi3A3skb0 Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl) 194
187 Davis is Olympic level, if I remember correctly.
I haven't paid attention to the Olympics in a couple of decades now but it seems like if she'd made it there, we would have heard about it. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (/y8xj) ======= Olympic level doesn't necessarily mean making the team. She did almost make the 2000 team: https://is.gd/zfPsVD Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO) 195
I wouldn't get anything from Temu. Apparently you have to install their app, and it's just straight-up spyware.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C) Maybe on a phone. Some of us have computers. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:41 AM (nK4uM) 196
There’s an SF GOP?
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 11:41 AM (TM00u) 197
Do they make a tire strong enough to handle the weight of the EV AND all the extras added to it for police packages?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1) Model Y curbweight is ~4200 lbs. A Tahoe curbweight is 5500 lbs. Both of those are before addition of police equipment. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:24 AM (xhfG9) This is tiring. Isn't the point that Tahoe tires are a well-tread path, whereas midsize (?, Model Y), doesn't traditionally require such a heavy duty tire in a small car platform? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (i24o9) 198
So every one of our stores needs a charging station...
Posted by: Dunkin mgmt at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (DobEs) 199
Olympic level doesn't necessarily mean making the team.
She did almost make the 2000 team: https://is.gd/zfPsVD Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO) I think "World Class" is the preferred term. Posted by: BignJames at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (AwYPR) 200
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‘ Apparently there was talk of having Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis do cameos, but it was scrapped’. ‘Let’s give Alec Baldwin a shot at this.’ “Hell no! Scrapped.” Posted by: Hollywood executives at meeting at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (jbnUc) 201
Olympic level doesn't necessarily mean making the team.
I kinda think that's exactly what it means. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:44 AM (/y8xj) 202
If one looks up Geena Davis and archery, there's video of her pulling out a gun and shooting something she missed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:44 AM (tT6L1) 203
This is tiring. Isn't the point that Tahoe tires are a well-tread path, whereas midsize (?, Model Y), doesn't traditionally require such a heavy duty tire in a small car platform?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (i24o9) It does require a heavy-duty tire; just to tote the battery around. All tires have a max load rating, but electric cars tend to load the tires closer to their max rating that do fuel-driven cars. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (nK4uM) 204
The E0 has not dropped in price, though the E10 has. There's now a .60 differential between E10 and E0 at that station. Probably it does not pay me to use the E0; but I'd like them to keep selling it, so I use it every week or two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius The newest store in my AO just opened. They have the fuels market sewn up out here. They are the fuel brokers for this area and do the propane deliveries too. E-10 is $2.59/gal. E-Free is $3.59/gal. I run the E-Free in the ATV & the Zero Turn.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 205
I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA -- Oh puh-leeze! As has been mentioned, she does look like Sigourney Weaver's ugly little sister. Actually, she's a combo of ugly Sigourney Weaver's little sister and Geddy Lee. Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (N2zvp) 206
193 Geena Davis wore a pink bikini in Earth Girls Are Easy and I think it was cold on the set that day
but the hottie in that movie was Julie Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Wi3A3skb0 Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl) She was nice, but I was more of a fan of Downtown Julie Brown, who had an MTV show along with this Julie Brown. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (JOWnF) 207
Oh puh-leeze! As has been mentioned, she does look like Sigourney Weaver's ugly little sister. Actually, she's a combo of ugly Sigourney Weaver's little sister and Geddy Lee.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (N2zvp) ---------------- Heh. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:46 AM (tT6L1) Posted by: Don Black at September 09, 2024 11:46 AM (/7KEl) 209
I buy the Ethanol Free gas because it seems to store longer. Have it to run my generator, mostly. I burn it up in my lawn tractor and cars before it goes bad. Just spent $150 about a month ago filling all my cans, as I get a fresh batch for hurricane season here on the NC Coast.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at September 09, 2024 11:46 AM (CV8a5) 210
191 Why do EVs have a place in the ecosystem? Tiny niches maybe? But exactly where and why? Very hard to see that case being made. Disallowing absurd “environmental” rationale, eliminating subsidies (no public good = no rationale for subsidies), what’s the case?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bAH4u) EV cop cars would be good for sneaking up on kids necking in Lovers' Lane. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2024 11:40 AM (nK4uM) Best case I can see is if EVs can be the conduits from a factory to a boat/train (when you are literally just driving from one side of the parking lot to the other) - self-driving would actually be the more desired thing for this b/c if you ever watch some of the logistics of major factories to shipping lanes, this is it. They have 100s of folks driving 1 mile onto ships that are literally only through parking lot... Posted by: Nova Local at September 09, 2024 11:46 AM (exHjb) 211
I did see Beetlejuice the musical.
===== *boasting a little* MeTV (antenna) has a Toon channel. I see Beetlejuice the cartoon a few times a week. Cartoon is pretty good. Posted by: mustbequantum at September 09, 2024 11:47 AM (eRfHZ) 212
Actually, she's a combo of ugly Sigourney Weaver's little sister and Geddy Lee.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (N2zvp) Uh oh......Doof's gonna be PISSED. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1) 213
Uh oh......Doof's gonna be PISSED.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1) --------------- But. the rest of us get to point and laugh. Win! Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:48 AM (tT6L1) 214
The wit and wisdom of Keith Olbermann.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr @RobertKennedyJr Liberals, take note: If you support Kamala Harris, you are now on the same side as Dick Cheney. Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl) 215
Actually, she's a combo of ugly Sigourney Weaver's little sister and Geddy Lee.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (N2zvp) Uh oh......Doof's gonna be PISSED. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1) Nah. Objections from people with musically broken ears aside, Geddy Lee is one goofy looking guy. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:49 AM (i24o9) 216
I see Keith has forgotten "BushMcHitlerCheney."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:49 AM (tT6L1) 217
She was nice, but I was more of a fan of Downtown Julie Brown, who had an MTV show along with this Julie Brown. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (JOWnF) You asked for it........ https://youtu.be/ezpJCYBIDCM Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1) 218
158 famous historical quotes as reported by the Associated Press:
"Ask not." — John F. Kennedy Posted by: SMOD at September 09, 2024 11:32 AM (RHGPo) The AP are a bunch of ahistorical idiots. That was, more accurately, a quote from Ted Sorenson, JFK's speechwriter (and probable writer of A Profile In Courage). When someone asked him years afterwards whether he in fact wrote that book, his answer was "Ask not." Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (JOWnF) 219
@KeithOlbermann
RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler Huh. I was sure he voted straight Dem, what with being dead and all. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (/y8xj) 220
Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 11:48 AM (L/fGl) Who's Trump gone to war with? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1) 221
But. the rest of us get to point and laugh. Win! Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:48 AM (tT6L1) Your point. It is valid. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:51 AM (Zz0t1) 222
@KeithOlbermann
RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler How so? Seriously. Name ONE THING that Trump has ACTUALLY done that makes him comparable to Hitler. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1) 223
"Davis is Olympic level, if I remember correctly."
She tried out but finished 24th, didn't make the team. She had only practiced for a couple years, but kinda cool she made the effort. I'd guess she does not hunt, being a Hollywood liberal (I assume). Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (Cus5s) 224
This is tiring. Isn't the point that Tahoe tires are a well-tread path, whereas midsize (?, Model Y), doesn't traditionally require such a heavy duty tire in a small car platform?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:42 AM (i24o9) It is tiring. (ISWYDT!) I used to drive an Audi V8 and it was heavier than a Tesla Model Y. Dodge Chargers are heavier than a Model Y, which is more of an SUV than a "car". Let me put it plainly: this "what about tires?" question is FUD. The Model Y isn't significantly different in weight than other vehicles in its class. If you don't want answers, don't ask questions. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (xhfG9) 225
Let me put it plainly: this "what about tires?" question is FUD. The Model Y isn't significantly different in weight than other vehicles in its class.
If you don't want answers, don't ask questions. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (xhfG9) So, all the complaints about battery cars causing issues with road surfaces and parking structures is all bullshit? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1) 226
Seriously. Name ONE THING that Trump has ACTUALLY done that makes him comparable to Hitler.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1) ---------------- The left has a complete aversion to facts and critical thinking. Their only weapon is slander, which, sadly, seems to be effective. Funny thing, though, Hitler admitted one of the tools he was most fond of was slander. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:54 AM (tT6L1) 227
This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 11:54 AM (TM00u) 228
227 This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 11:54 AM (TM00u) Yeah, just keeps going round and round. Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 09, 2024 11:55 AM (LxER7) 229
And for the record, I think battery cars are complete shit, no matter WHAT they weigh, so......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:55 AM (Zz0t1) 230
Gawd. It was bad enough hearing that Big Mike was hot. That was ridiculous.
But this Emhoff bitch? Yeeeeeah riiiiiiight, ok guys. She wouldn't even clean up nicely. She's built like a surfboard and has a gross face. But she isn't even cleaned up. She looks like she smells like curdled milk. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 09, 2024 11:55 AM (0FoWg) 231
This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 11:54 AM It's all just torque, torque, torque... Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 11:55 AM (ZANHd) 232
This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry You've got to tread carefully when discussing the subject. Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:56 AM (v6JzV) Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2024 11:56 AM (jbnUc) 234
I buy the Ethanol Free gas because it seems to store longer. Have it to run my generator, mostly. I burn it up in my lawn tractor and cars before it goes bad. Just spent $150 about a month ago filling all my cans, as I get a fresh batch for hurricane season here on the NC Coast.
Posted by: Semper Paratus It also doesn't eat up plastic carburetors like what you find on mowers, atv's & generators. I've had to replace the carburetors on the atv & mower before I switched.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices 235
Who's Trump gone to war with? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1) Those bastards of Pitcairn Islands. That's about all we can handle with our current navy. Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 11:58 AM (eDfFs) 236
She was nice, but I was more of a fan of Downtown Julie Brown, who had an MTV show along with this Julie Brown.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 11:45 AM (JOWnF) Wubba, wubba, wubba! Posted by: Doof at September 09, 2024 11:58 AM (RhGG0) 237
We're very fast, very expensive golf carts.
Posted by: Teslas at September 09, 2024 11:58 AM (DobEs) 238
Model Y, which is more of an SUV than a "car".
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 11:52 AM (xhfG9) I don't buy this. It is a heavy midsize. The cargo capacity they cite is a bit misleading, and they are largely not apples to apples comparison. I've seen cargo in use on a Model Y. It certainly appears smaller than my Highlander with third row seating. The numbers cited on Tesla's site appear to be equivalent to Tahoe cargo behind the third row. More appropriate comparison than 2 nearly full-size V8 cars are probably the Subaru Outback or the class crossing Crosstrek, which is about 1/2 ton lighter than your cited Model Y. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:59 AM (i24o9) 239
Mrs. Walz is a big fan of burning tire smell. I may light some in her honor if the Walz-mentum continues.
Posted by: Hunka Burnin' Love at September 09, 2024 11:59 AM (CV8a5) 240
This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry You've got to tread carefully when discussing the subject. Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:56 AM (v6JzV) - So let's discuss inflation. But no pressure from me. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (uQFxU) 241
I do not understand how EVs reduce costs. They cost more to buy, more to maintain, and I can't imagine that with the generation and the storage of electricity, that they are cheaper to fuel. I suspect someone is pretending that electricity is free.
Posted by: Emmie at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (ZNSbE) 242
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Who's Trump gone to war with? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1 The media Posted by: It's me donna at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (IyPmt) Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:01 PM (v6JzV) 244
241 I do not understand how EVs reduce costs. They cost more to buy, more to maintain, and I can't imagine that with the generation and the storage of electricity, that they are cheaper to fuel.
giant coal-powered turbines are more efficient than puny gas engines small enough to mount in a car. Posted by: anachronda at September 09, 2024 12:01 PM (oY6Yp) 245
These tire puns are kind of taking all the air out of this thread.
Posted by: Groan at September 09, 2024 12:01 PM (DobEs) 246
This tire discussion isn’t gaining much traction with me.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry You've got to tread carefully when discussing the subject. Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 11:56 AM (v6JzV) Take a balanced approach and you'll be OK Posted by: Doof at September 09, 2024 12:02 PM (RhGG0) Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 12:02 PM (eDfFs) 248
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She's an actress, so automatically sus but...she's a good archer. I gotta respect a woman who can actually shoot a bow. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 11:31 AM (xcxpd) ------------- Sure you're not confusing her with Jessica Biel, who took out a camera during the filming of Blade III? Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 11:34 AM (tT6L1) Nope, Biel is hot and fit (or was) but Geena Davis took up archery and nearly made the Olympic team. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 09, 2024 12:02 PM (xcxpd) 249
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Who's Trump gone to war with? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1 The media Posted by: It's me donna at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (IyPmt) The media are the real enemies here. Democrats will always try to Democrat. The media enables their behavior. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 12:03 PM (JOWnF) Posted by: Oh no at September 09, 2024 12:03 PM (DobEs) 251
184 Why do EVs have a place in the ecosystem? Tiny niches maybe? But exactly where and why? Very hard to see that case being made. Disallowing absurd “environmental” rationale, eliminating subsidies (no public good = no rationale for subsidies), what’s the case?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bAH4u) I am an "all of the above" kind of guy when it comes to technology choices. Consider airplanes - jets or props? Trains - electric, or diesel-electric? Ships - sail, steam, gas turbine? Forklifts - gas, diesel, propane, or electric? Why are some cars gas, and some diesel? Electric cars have a place in the ecosystem because they work. In some ways they are better than gas cars, in some ways worse. Whether its worth your while depends on your use case and business case. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:03 PM (xhfG9) 252
243 I, too am tyred of this conversation.
I might just beinarut. Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:01 PM (v6JzV) *Lily von Shtupp has entered the chat* Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 09, 2024 12:04 PM (LxER7) 253
Those bastards of Pitcairn Islands.
That's about all we can handle with our current navy. Posted by: naturalfake That's okay we have wifi on this ship. ~CPO Mess Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 09, 2024 12:04 PM (9rrXC) 254
No pit maneuvers with an EV.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 09, 2024 12:04 PM (kNkY2) 255
Also, electric vehicles range is severely affected by traveling at high speeds (considerably more so than gas powered vehicles) which is a problem in the event of a fleeing suspect. In fact, between that and the fact that the best EV batteries on the market still have a lower range than a full tank of gas, criminals would be heavily incentivized to flee the cops. They no longer have to outrun them, they just have to outlast them.
Posted by: Irving Washington at September 09, 2024 12:05 PM (/FU0J) Posted by: Very carefully at September 09, 2024 12:05 PM (DobEs) 257
FTR, Model Y is almost exactly the same length as Crosstrek. Tahoe is 1-2 feet length greater than Model Y, depending on two door or four door.
Ain't no way you're getting equivalent cargo space in the Model Y/Tahoe comparison, which is why it makes more sense to compare Model Y to Crosstrek for purposes of GVW. Same usage, same crossover market, etc. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:06 PM (i24o9) 258
I, too am tyred of this conversation.
You have to gauge it. Posted by: Very carefully at September 09, 2024 12:05 PM (DobEs) Careful, or you'll get the boot. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:06 PM (i24o9) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (L/fGl) 260
Electric cars have a place in the ecosystem because they work. In some ways they are better than gas cars, in some ways worse. Whether its worth your while depends on your use case and business case.
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:03 PM (xhfG9) EVs best use has proven to be unexpected, spontaneous marshmallow roasts. Every EV is a potential party waiting to happen. Throw another shrimp on the EV! And, of course, they're very useful in combustion related house demolition. ICEs just can't compete at this level. Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (eDfFs) 261
I, too am tyred of this conversation.
You have to gauge it. Posted by: Very carefully at September 09, 2024 12:05 PM (DobEs) * Careful, or you'll get the boot. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 *** Tread lightly, or someone will draw a bead on you. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu) 262
Too much pressure to join the tire discussion.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (TM00u) 263
So, all the complaints about battery cars causing issues with road surfaces and parking structures is all bullshit?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1) No. See the Model Y is much lighter than the Semis ruining the roads. Am I doing this right? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:08 PM (i24o9) 264
Tread lightly, or someone will draw a bead on you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu) Even if we don't stem this argument, it will run out of air soon. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:08 PM (i24o9) 265
263 So, all the complaints about battery cars causing issues with road surfaces and parking structures is all bullshit?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1) No. See the Model Y is much lighter than the Semis ruining the roads. Am I doing this right? hello, sailor! Posted by: tesla electric semi at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (oY6Yp) 266
Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler You are SCUM! Traitorous, Russian SCUM! Peace. ✋️ Posted by: Keith Olbermann at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (JCZqz) 267
All this talk of Tesla tires . . . all terribly inflated, if you ask me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (J2vNu) 268
266 Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann RFK take note: if you support Trump, you are now on the same side as Adolf Hitler You are SCUM! Traitorous, Russian SCUM! Peace. ✋️ Posted by: Keith Olbermann at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (JCZqz) ======= I thought I was on Hitler's side when voting for W and Cheney in 2004? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (GBKbO) 269
Electric cars, trucks and busses could be made viable if we finance third rails on every roadway. Works for the MTA in NYC, it will work in Podunk, GA.
Posted by: IBEW Local 80 at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (CV8a5) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (J2vNu) 271
264 Tread lightly, or someone will draw a bead on you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu) Even if we don't stem this argument, it will run out of air soon. lug nuts, glorious lug nuts > deez nuts Posted by: bender "bending" rodriguez at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (oY6Yp) 272
Whether its worth your while depends on your use case and business case.
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:03 PM (xhfG9) Absolutely agree, and as this post makes clear, EV usage as police cars is nothing more than an enviro circle jerk trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (i24o9) 273
264 Tread lightly, or someone will draw a bead on you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu) Even if we don't stem this argument, it will run out of air soon. Posted by: Comrade Flounder Tire discussions are like Kate Upton. It's important to rubber the right way. Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (JCZqz) 274
She's a
https://is.gd/Zdx7zM Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:07 PM (L/fGl) - FIFY Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (uQFxU) 275
Speaking of Teslas, there are a whole bunch of cyber trucks in my area now. Every time I see one it gets uglier to me than the last one.
I’m an Elon fan and hope he keep succeeding with Tesla. But damn those trucks are hideous. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (TM00u) 276
241 I do not understand how EVs reduce costs. They cost more to buy, more to maintain, and I can't imagine that with the generation and the storage of electricity, that they are cheaper to fuel. I suspect someone is pretending that electricity is free.
Posted by: Emmie at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (ZNSbE) A Model Y costs about $50k. A Chevy Tahoe costs about $50k. Do you know the maintenance costs for EVs? Everything I read shows that the maintenance costs are significantly lower for EVs. The cost for charging v fueling depends on the variable costs of electricity and gas. I do think the savings on this are over estimated. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9) 277
For the record, the I-75 shooter search being suspended for it being unsafe in the dark at 3:00 AM was because too many gun-toting cops were being held at gunpoint by alert homeowners thinking they'd gotten the suspect themselves, rather than it just being dark.
![]() Posted by: American Hawkman at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (skAOD) 278
I'd rather talk Star Trek than tires. Spock and Vulcanization is more interesting.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (kNkY2) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl) 280
"What could go possibly wrong?" - says GVT idiots in charge of us all.
Posted by: Esperman at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (nXmZr) 281
Bill Shatner and his toupee are currently overacting on an Ironside episode from 1970. It's more fun watching with the sound off. GET-TV
Posted by: Histrionical at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (CV8a5) 282
I thought I was on Hitler's side when voting for W and Cheney in 2004?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:09 PM (GBKbO) Same with Juan McStain. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (TM00u) 283
Absolutely agree, and as this post makes clear, EV usage as police cars is nothing more than an enviro circle jerk trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (i24o9) Does this post make it clear, though? I think every argument thrown up here against is FUD. The data is available. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (xhfG9) 284
I suspect someone is pretending that electricity is free.
Posted by: Emmie at September 09, 2024 12:00 PM (ZNSbE) You weren't supposed to notice this. If you are looking at economy, small diesel in another country, or hybrid is about best you'll get here. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:13 PM (i24o9) 285
Spock and Vulcanization is more interesting.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 09, 2024 *** I wonder how many humans would have emigrated to Vulcan and chosen their emotion-free lifestyle? Presuming the Vulcans permitted it. They allowed interspecies marriage; look at Sarek, Spock's father. He married at least two human chicks in his lifetime. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:13 PM (J2vNu) 286
Haha! Biden' latest "student loan forgiveness" vote-buying scheme has been stopped even before it starts. A federal judge issued a TRO, saying the whole idea looks illegal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 09, 2024 12:13 PM (po03/) 287
Swing and a miss!
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl) 288
286 Haha! Biden' latest "student loan forgiveness" vote-buying scheme has been stopped even before it starts. A federal judge issued a TRO, saying the whole idea looks illegal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 09, 2024 12:13 PM (po03/) Republican judges hate education!!!!! - MSM Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:15 PM (TM00u) 289
Does this post make it clear, though?
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (xhfG9) If you're willing to read it objectively, yes. I don't see much FUD, when you can point to object considerations that were left unaddressed in the article or the rest of the thread. The only case being made against the article uses a comparison between apples and oranges as shown regarding tires. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:15 PM (i24o9) 290
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl) ---------------- Replace "alienated" with "alien" and they're spot on. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:15 PM (tT6L1) 291
I’m an Elon fan and hope he keep succeeding with Tesla. But damn those trucks are hideous.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at They are growing on me. But the answer is still no! Posted by: Piper at September 09, 2024 12:15 PM (QzINz) 292
No. See the Model Y is much lighter than the Semis ruining the roads.
Am I doing this right? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:08 PM (i24o9) Semis do not run on neighborhood streets nor park in parking garages. But yeah, your argument is.....well....um..... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:16 PM (Zz0t1) 293
275 Speaking of Teslas, there are a whole bunch of cyber trucks in my area now. Every time I see one it gets uglier to me than the last one.
I’m an Elon fan and hope he keep succeeding with Tesla. But damn those trucks are hideous. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:10 PM (TM00u) I like them. They're reminiscent of a 70s TV show version of what a future car would look like. That said, I think the problem with the Cybertruck is that Elon tried to rethink the concept of a truck from first principles, and it missed. There's a reason trucks basically look the way they do. The perception of limited space in the back for stuff is a turn-off for the average person, I think. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (JOWnF) 294
"...are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community."
Oddly enough, those reduced costs are never enumerated. Which means they aren't any. Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker Exactly. If they were really going to save money, it would say "will reduce costs by doing X and Y." Not that they are """expected""" to """help""" reduce costs. That's bureaucratic weasel-wording. No offense to Weasel. Posted by: mikeski at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (DgGvY) 295
"Traitorous, Russian SCUM!"
You have to appreciate that the media has spent decades cheering on Russians through the worst atrocities of communism and now Russians are the most evil thing ever because they are invading our corrupt sock puppet for cause. Posted by: Ribbed at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (B0mGw) 296
Hey, Piper! How is Your Imperial Majesty today?
Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (v6JzV) 297
Swing and a miss!
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl) Heh. They've seem to have deleted that picture of Walz swanning about on stage. Probably, because it was so manly. Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (eDfFs) 298
A Model Y costs about $50k. A Chevy Tahoe costs about $50k. Do you know the maintenance costs for EVs? Everything I read shows that the maintenance costs are significantly lower for EVs.
The cost for charging v fueling depends on the variable costs of electricity and gas. I do think the savings on this are over estimated. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9) ===================== Given the discounts and tax incentives on new EV's, not to mention the need to replace batteries after some number of discharge/recharge cycles, I bet EV resale value is pretty low. That should probably fact in to your comparison. Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (po03/) 299
He said he drove a pickup. Then he showed up in a Ridgeline!
Posted by: Snickering females at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (DobEs) 300
Ieeeer!
I can see Lincoln's head! Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (iLJ0z) 301
290 Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl) ---------------- Replace "alienated" with "alien" and they're spot on. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:15 PM (tT6L1) ======= Polls (spit) are showing a wider gender gap regarding men than women, with men vastly preferring Trump over Kamala. Weird. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO) 302
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:12 PM (xhfG9)
I don't mind EVs but the main bitch is the efforts by the government and Left to mandate the EV and replace the ICE. The subsidies which have fortunately almost disappeared was another theft of taxpayer money. It's necessary to fight against this with worst case scenarios or they will just run over you. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (kNkY2) 303
Current forecast track seems to imply cannibalism in the Superdome will occur again.
Posted by: Spaghetti Models at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (CV8a5) 304
I'm really looking forward to the think pieces about how Democrats need to stop pushing abortion so much because it's losing them the male vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO) 305
Everything I read shows that the maintenance costs are significantly lower for EVs.
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:11 PM (xhfG9) Don't skip the part about battery replacement. Because you cannot amortize that cost out without looking at it sideways to come up with better maintenance costs over the long run. EV advocates merely suggest passing that cost off to the next person, which is fine. It is a free market. But you cannot simply ignore that cost in a cost over life of the vehicle comparison. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (i24o9) 306
You have to appreciate that the media has spent decades cheering on Russians through the worst atrocities of communism and now Russians are the most evil thing ever because they are invading our corrupt sock puppet for cause.
Posted by: Ribbed They aren't communist anymore, so they're the enemy now! Posted by: Leftwing MSM at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (JCZqz) 307
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 12:14 PM (L/fGl) The guy who put tampons in the Boy's bathroom in all schools.........because he's a man's man. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (Zz0t1) 308
The perception of limited space in the back for stuff is a turn-off for the average person, I think.
I suspect that most trucks these days are bought by people who never put a lot of stuff in the bed or tow anything heavy but think that they might want to. Some day. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (/y8xj) 309
Given the discounts and tax incentives on new EV's, not to mention the need to replace batteries after some number of discharge/recharge cycles, I bet EV resale value is pretty low. That should probably fact in to your comparison.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (po03/) It's a write off, Jerry. They just write it off. Posted by: Kramer at September 09, 2024 11:23 AM (DobEs) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (i24o9) 310
The Tesla Model Y vehicles ... are expected to help reduce costs for both the Police Department and the community.
____________________ Did they say this with a straight face? It is to laugh. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (YqDXo) 311
I saw one of those Tesla trucks on Saturday. Hideous doesn't even begin to describe it. It looked like that land rover thing the soldiers drove out of the ship in Aliens when they hit the ground to get to the space station.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (N2zvp) 312
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Replace "alienated" with "alien" and they're spot on. Posted by: blake Nah, ese. Posted by: illegal aliens at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (DgGvY) 313
you guys are missing it
At Lassen College the maintenance boss took the college F250 home and used it as tax free transportation. That's what those Tesla's will be used for. Posted by: torabora at September 09, 2024 12:19 PM (0Gnoc) 314
296 Hey, Piper! How is Your Imperial Majesty today?
Posted by: Bulg at September Hi! Right now I am kind of sweaty. 😂 I taught 2 classes (cardio) and then did my own work out (weight class) so getting ready to clean up and change. How about you? Posted by: Piper at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (QzINz) 315
That Emhoff chick does not shave her armpits and proudly shows it off. That is just disgusting.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (ZtyUu) 316
Maintenance schedule for a Tesla:
Brake fluid flush every 4 years Cabin filter replacement every 2 years HEOA filter replacement every 3 years Clean and lubricate brake calipers every 12k miles Rotate tires every 6k miles That’s it. Maintenance is practically free for an EV which is where the big savings come from. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (TM00u) 317
They've seem to have deleted that picture of Walz swanning about on stage. Probably, because it was so manly.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (eDfFs) ------------ Poncing, mincing and now swanning. Swishing also comes to mind. Funny how the adjective "masculine" is never used to describe Walz. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (tT6L1) 318
Oddly enough, those reduced costs are never enumerated.
Which means they aren't any. Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker Exactly. If they were really going to save money, it would say "will reduce costs by doing X and Y." Not that they are """expected""" to """help""" reduce costs. That's bureaucratic weasel-wording. Posted by: mikeski at September 09, 2024 12:17 PM (DgGvY) Nailed it. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (i24o9) 319
Hi! Right now I am kind of sweaty. 😂 I taught 2 classes (cardio) and then did my own work out (weight class) so getting ready to clean up and change. How about you?
Posted by: Piper I'm OK, thanks. Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (v6JzV) 320
Political scientist says Kamala's campaign picked Tim Walz as VP because he's "a man's man" and could appeal to "alienated male voters" 💀
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 09, 2024 ---------------- Replace "alienated" with "alien" and they're spot on. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 *** We shall pass, thank you. Posted by: 99.8% of the Federation's Members at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (J2vNu) 321
I don't buy this. It is a heavy midsize. The cargo capacity they cite is a bit misleading, and they are largely not apples to apples comparison.
I've seen cargo in use on a Model Y. It certainly appears smaller than my Highlander with third row seating. The numbers cited on Tesla's site appear to be equivalent to Tahoe cargo behind the third row. More appropriate comparison than 2 nearly full-size V8 cars are probably the Subaru Outback or the class crossing Crosstrek, which is about 1/2 ton lighter than your cited Model Y. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 11:59 AM (i24o9) If you pick some other comparison other, you can make the argument come out the way you want, I guess. There is no way that a Subaru Outback is the correct comparison. First of all, police don't choose Subaru Outbacks! Well, okay, I guess that is how your argument is working. Hah, this things like A Subaru Outback, and no police department would choose an Outback! Argument won! The Tesla Model Y is a mid-sized SUV. It can come with a third row. It comes with 295-455hp. The Outback is 186-260 hp Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (xhfG9) 322
That’s it. Maintenance is practically free for an EV which is where the big savings come from. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (TM00u) Huh....They've managed to make spinning wheels without bearings. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) 323
I have seen some cyber trucks with different colors and they look a little better. Deep blue looks not bad. It’s not paint since you can’t get them painted, but after market shops will do wraps.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (TM00u) 324
Any alleged male who prefers Walz's "manliness" would be still voting for Kamala if she picked RuPaul.
Posted by: mikeski at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (DgGvY) 325
Russia: they used to be commissars, now they are oligarchs. Same as the old boss.
Posted by: torabora at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (0Gnoc) 326
We really need a weekend Car Thread here at AoS.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (JOWnF) 327
That Emhoff chick does not shave her armpits and proudly shows it off. That is just disgusting.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 *** Do you mean Knee-Pads, or her stepdaughter? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (J2vNu) 328
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (xhfG9
Again would you do a pit maneuver with an EV? Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (kNkY2) 329
If you were clever, you would've image-chopped a big solar panel on that cop car. Posted by: Soothsayer bottom lines it for you at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (GmwV7) 330
That’s it. Maintenance is *practically free* for an EV which is where the big savings come from.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:20 PM (TM00u) See; ignores battery replacement cost. What happens when that bill comes due? Who pays it? Next owner. See, it's free? Magical thinking. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (i24o9) 331
Whose uglier, Ella Emhoff or Caroline Ellison (SBF's old squeeze)?
Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (v6JzV) 332
For those storing gas, what are you storing it in? Did you hang on to your old usable gas cans, go black market, or are you suffering with the EPA mandated godforsaken ones that barely pour?
Posted by: brak at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (25k9m) 333
Do you mean Knee-Pads, or her stepdaughter?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (J2vNu) the step daughter. Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (ZtyUu) 334
But Trump, who got shot and immediately jumped back up and yelled out to the crowd, alienates men who desire a manly man.
Got it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1) 335
Huh....They've managed to make spinning wheels without bearings.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) It's ALL ball bearings these days! _Fetzer Valves, LLC Posted by: Doof at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (RhGG0) 336
someone mentions cops spend a lot of time sitting and idling. hard to idle in an EV but this in Georgia, cops will have to have AC when sitting. Batteries wont last long.
Posted by: Awvr at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (Cug4R) 337
could appeal to "alienated male voters"
------- Polls are showing a wider gender gap regarding men than women, with men vastly preferring Trump over Kamala. ------- Yeah, but what about these four studs and their one pivotal woman? You think they're voting for Trump and his hate speech? tinyurl.com/2zy597vj Posted by: Ribbed at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (B0mGw) 338
Huh....They've managed to make spinning wheels without bearings.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) Replacing bearings isn’t a maintenance item is it? It’s more of a failure which of course any car ev or ice can have. Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (TM00u) 339
334 But Trump, who got shot and immediately jumped back up and yelled out to the crowd, alienates men who desire a manly man.
Got it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1) ====== "That only happened in your wet dreams, loser!" -The entire left Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO) 340
Any alleged male who prefers Walz's "manliness" would be still voting for Kamala if she picked RuPaul.
Posted by: mikeski at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (DgGvY) **** I could have been a contender! Posted by: Zombie Liberace at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (0Gnoc) 341
Whose uglier, Ella Emhoff or Caroline Ellison (SBF's old squeeze)?
Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM Ellison just looked plain. Emhoff looks like she's deliberately trying to look unattractive. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (ZANHd) 342
331 Whose uglier, Ella Emhoff or Caroline Ellison (SBF's old squeeze)?
Posted by: Bulg Sarah Jessica Parker and Ann Coulter have entered the arena! Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (JCZqz) 343
Polls (spit) are showing a wider gender gap regarding men than women, with men vastly preferring Trump over Kamala.
Weird. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO) ------------------- The women they're polling enjoy emasculating the men in their life while telling their troubles to Boxy Cardbonet. Women who like a man who can change a tire and move heavy objects probably roll their eyes at the idea of Walz. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1) 344
Most people who buy an EV probably drive it 2 - 3 times a week. Charge it up once every couple weeks. And don't own it long enough to have any maintenance done on it.
Garage queens. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (Q4IgG) 345
New Orleans city officials are out school bus shopping, anticipating drowning their current fleet. Harris-Biden Administration is offering electric replacements.
Posted by: Below Sea Level at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (CV8a5) Posted by: Tesla Service Department at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (25k9m) 347
Walz is a "man's man" because he's so manly, and Emma Whatsherface is the most beautiful woman in the world. I don't know where anybody gets the idea that leftists are insane and delusional.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (N2zvp) Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (TM00u) 349
Replacing bearings isn’t a maintenance item is it? It’s more of a failure which of course any car ev or ice can have.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (TM00u) Wheel bearings should be checked and/or greased (if not sealed) every time brakes are maintained. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1) Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (eDfFs) 351
Nood strippers.
Posted by: spindrift at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (OguvZ) 352
343 The women they're polling enjoy emasculating the men in their life while telling their troubles to Boxy Cardbonet. Women who like a man who can change a tire and move heavy objects probably roll their eyes at the idea of Walz.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1) ======= When the dust is settled on the election, and exit polls show something like 65-30 men voting for Trump while 60-40 women voting for Kamala, the narrative is going to be: Republicans fail to close gender gap, must reach out to women to gain a mandate. It will not be: Democrats fail to close gender gap, must reach out to men to gain a mandate. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (GBKbO) 353
Well, okay, I guess that is how your argument is working.
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (xhfG9) You do, because that is exactly what you did. You picked a comparison that played to your favor to benefit your position. I pointed that out - reinforcing the point of the article - using a more appropriate comparison based on objective measures like cargo space and length - and it illustrated why your example was useless and handpicked to reinforce your biases. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (i24o9) 354
Ellison just looked plain. Emhoff looks like she's deliberately trying to look unattractive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState This, too, is the story of many below average looking women today that just go all in on hair color, piercings, etc and then blame men for not accepting them. Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (JCZqz) 355
Has anyone noticed that the "beautiful Emhoff" tweet was from United Spot?
Posted by: Emmie at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (ZNSbE) 356
Slip Nood
Posted by: Inogame at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (53oGX) 357
Don't skip the part about battery replacement. Because you cannot amortize that cost out without looking at it sideways to come up with better maintenance costs over the long run.
EV advocates merely suggest passing that cost off to the next person, which is fine. It is a free market. But you cannot simply ignore that cost in a cost over life of the vehicle comparison. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:18 PM (i24o9) I don't know that resale is factored into the TCO on government vehicles as they don't amortize. Old cop cars go to auction in whatever shape they are in. If the batteries have a ten year life cycle - then passing that cost on to the next owner is exactly what the police department is going to do. It is a point that it is not often considered. But ever pay to replace the engine in a gas car? Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:27 PM (xhfG9) 358
Whose uglier, Ella Emhoff or Caroline Ellison (SBF's old squeeze)?
Posted by: Bulg Would you rather smash your foot with a sledge hammer or a falling boulder. I'm guessing you'd want neither. Some comparisons just don't need to be made. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2024 12:27 PM (Zz0t1) 359
I have seen some cyber trucks with different colors and they look a little better. Deep blue looks not bad. It’s not paint since you can’t get them painted, but after market shops will do wraps.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:22 PM (TM00u) ------------- Just saw a non-painted one the other day -- a shade of "Army green" -- mildly less hideous. Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 12:27 PM (cnpI7) 360
4 Teslas will solve the Climate Crisis!
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2024 12:27 PM (v0R5T) 361
*painted non-silver one
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 09, 2024 12:28 PM (cnpI7) 362
She looks more like Sigourney Weaver's ugly baby sister
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 09, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu) She looks like the last costume left at a Halloween pop-up store. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2024 11:13 AM (KbCG3) I think she's HOT!! Posted by: D. Hogg at September 09, 2024 12:28 PM (iODuv) 363
That $50k Model Y is the one the kid at work bought that was totaled in a minor front end wreck that didn't even trigger the air bags or mess with the front doors.
I can't imagine it holding up to police service. Posted by: DanMan at September 09, 2024 12:28 PM (8uzBS) 364
You do, because that is exactly what you did. You picked a comparison that played to your favor to benefit your position. I pointed that out - reinforcing the point of the article - using a more appropriate comparison based on objective measures like cargo space and length - and it illustrated why your example was useless and handpicked to reinforce your biases.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (i24o9) I know this is well and truly willowed, but the question posed was do they make tires that will hold up to the weight of a Tesla X and added police equipment. When you compare to other police cars - which use tires - it isn't different at all. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:28 PM (xhfG9) 365
Apparently WunderKraut wasn't around for the '93 blizzard, as it was much more indicative of what can happen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Storm_of_the_Century "Record cold temperatures were seen across portions of the Southern United States and Eastern United States in the wake of this storm. In the United States, the storm was responsible for the loss of electric power to more than 10 million households." Then, there was Hurricane Ivan in 2004. It followed the usual pattern up from the Gulf, and swept up the SE. "In western North Carolina, many streams and rivers reached well above flood stage in an area that was heavily flood damaged just a week and a half prior from the remnants of Hurricane Frances, causing many roads to be closed. High winds contributed to widespread power outages throughout the mountainous region. " We were without power for 5 days. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2024 12:29 PM (XeU6L) 366
I once looked into replacing a 3.5l eco post engine in my f150. It was almost $10k including labor. And that was at 160k miles.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:29 PM (TM00u) 367
That was Sponge's question. And that's fair. The thread is deflated and it is time for a change.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:30 PM (i24o9) 368
332 For those storing gas, what are you storing it in? Did you hang on to your old usable gas cans, go black market, or are you suffering with the EPA mandated godforsaken ones that barely pour?
Posted by: brak All my gas cans are 30 years old or more. Posted by: Can You Blame Me? at September 09, 2024 12:31 PM (CV8a5) 369
I once looked into replacing a 3.5l eco post engine in my f150. It was almost $10k including labor. And that was at 160k miles.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 09, 2024 12:29 PM (TM00u) There is no doubt about new whizz-bang engines needing costly maintenance. You add complexity, you add failure modes, you add cost. This is all borne by regulation, regulations which keep truly economical vehicles out of U.S. markets, sadly. But again, you're talking F150 ecoboost versus midsize crossover. Crosstrek is more appropriate here. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 09, 2024 12:33 PM (i24o9) 370
I know you can expect a certain amount of dishonesty during election season but please!
https://is.gd/9H0SkA The word "could" is doing an awful lot of work in that sentence. Posted by: Oddbob at September 09, 2024 11:19 AM (/y8xj) _________________ C'mon, guys, the Reds tried to convince us that Moochelle was the most beautiful woman in the world, too, and this gal is comparable to Mooch. That X post should have been signed "Stevie Wonder." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2024 12:33 PM (YqDXo) 371
. First of all, police don't choose Subaru Outbacks! Well, okay, I guess that is how your argument is working. Hah, this things like A Subaru Outback, and no police department would choose an Outback! Argument won!
The Tesla Model Y is a mid-sized SUV. It can come with a third row. It comes with 295-455hp. The Outback is 186-260 hp Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2024 12:21 PM (xhfG9) **** Who says that shit? https://tinyurl.com/3vzj8u6f Posted by: Dyke Cops at September 09, 2024 12:34 PM (0Gnoc) 372
Republicans fail to close gender gap, must reach out to women to gain a mandate. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 09, 2024 12:26 PM (GBKbO) -------------- Well, I'll enjoy my second class citizenship while I can and hope I'm not demoted to serf in the near future. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 09, 2024 12:34 PM (tT6L1) 373
332 For those storing gas, what are you storing it in? Did you hang on to your old usable gas cans, go black market, or are you suffering with the EPA mandated godforsaken ones that barely pour?
Posted by: brak _________________ I have some of the EPA mandated godforsaken ones that have been ... modified. Yes, that's it, modified. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2024 12:35 PM (YqDXo) 374
Whose uglier, Ella Emhoff or Caroline Ellison (SBF's old squeeze)?
Posted by: Bulg at September 09, 2024 12:23 PM Ellison just looked plain. Emhoff looks like she's deliberately trying to look unattractive. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2024 12:24 PM (ZANHd) __________________ Well God knows she succeeded. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2024 12:41 PM (YqDXo) 375
• What can’t be charged without power – EV
Might want to bear in mind that gas stations need electricity to run their pumps. During a power outage you're not going to refuel your ICE either. He should have left this one off the list. Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 09, 2024 12:55 PM (TOe+Q) 376
The premise of WunderKraut story is that EVs are these totally new technology that people in hurricane country are unfamiliar with, but Tesla for example has been selling cars since 2008 and there are 7,000,000 running around across all its markets. So, maybe hundreds of thousand (or perhaps millions) of EV drivers know what is like to drive in places in which power outages may happen in certain situations and what to do to mitigate that risk.
WunderKraut wrote a lot but he obviously didn’t quite thought about this issue; the obvious tell is when he writes about “recharge times” (which can be as low as 200 miles of range in 15 minutes) and for which any fleet buyer can plan around. In fact, I bet that the Douglas Police department probably did their due diligence to find out the pros/cons of going with EV and the information is available to the public. Why not find that out and share that information instead of another anti-EV hit piece? Posted by: DominicanVoices at September 09, 2024 01:16 PM (7ALPQ) 377
He forgot to add it is hot and humid as all fick in Florida and what depletes battery fast, air conditioning.
Posted by: A definite one at September 09, 2024 01:38 PM (Ouykv) 378
> 377 He forgot to add it is hot and humid as all fick in Florida and what depletes battery fast, air conditioning.
EVs are sold in Florida and have been sold for years now. Do you know for a fact if what you say is true? Or you’re just assuming that’s the case? Posted by: DominicanVoices at September 09, 2024 02:26 PM (7ALPQ) 379
I suspect there is a combination of subsidies
- Fed pays for the cars under the Green Nude Eel (Inflation creation America reduction act) - Fed pays the cost of chargers, with lots of graft to go to local contractors - Utilities cut special deal on electricity under their mandate for encourage EV (Look at the deals in FLA -- someone is paying for that, well the ratepayers.) - Police unions love it since it means their guys only have to work 4 hours a day! When they come to their senses and buy ICE again, the unions will demand more pay for increased workload. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 09, 2024 02:35 PM (1Wk4E) 380
I hope this thread doesn’t cause a blowout among Morons
Posted by: RetSgtRN at September 09, 2024 02:52 PM (eTkTC) 381
It will take two electric cruisers to replace one gasoline cruiser, because the typical pattern is for a cruiser to come in at the end of shift and to be immediately fueled and cleaned and sent out for the next shift.
A gasoline car can be turned around in a matter of minutes, so one car can service consecutive shifts. The electric cruiser will have to be put on a charger, so an additional, fully charged, cruiser will have to be available at the start of the next shift. So, not only do the cars cost twice as much, you will have to have twice as many of them. So it winds up costing four times as much. Posted by: Gridlock at September 09, 2024 04:03 PM (DrAwQ) 382
Eco-Stupidity strikes again
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