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Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, August 24

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Do you ever see something in the garden that looks almost like it came from a dream?

Hey KT,

I thought the garden horde would like to see this. My stepfather sent me this from his back patio in Wisconsin. I have never seen one before and in fact, never knew they existed. It is an albino hummingbird. Amazing. I have fed hummingbirds for thirty years and have never seen one, so I imagine they are pretty rare.

WeeKreekFarmGirl

You can see the Bee Balm that attracted the hummingbird better here:

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Here's a pretty good, basic article on Bee Balm and Wild Bergamot. Some types are susceptible to mildew, so check for climate adaptation. They are natives, and all are attractive to hummingbirds. Have you ever grown it?

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Hi KT,

Here's a pic of the white okra that I'm raising for seed (200+ ft from the other okra in the veggie garden). It's actually a cream color, but there's a lot of green reflected under the leaves.

Miley, okravangelist

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Looks great! I think it would look better in some dishes than green okra.

Birdhouse Gourds: The largest of these is about 12" long. Not an edible gourd, but used for craft projects such as birdhouses, once they've dried out.

We like to experiment with 4 or 5 new plants every year.

Miley

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Big crop! Fun!

Loofa: We've got a nice crop of these, some longer than others.

Miley

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Let us know what you do with them. Ever grown the type that are used young as a veggie?

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Marie Thérèse Tamini

This is how sun-dried tomatoes are made in southern Italy... no chemicals .

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Adventure

Kayaking on the Salt River in Arizona. Nice place to be in August in the desert.

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Gardens of The Horde

From Liz953:

I bought my house 10 years ago and this hosta was here, planted against the north wall of my shed. I live in a flood zone on the eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay, and this hosta has been repeatedly flooded over the years with brackish/salty water. And it keeps coming back strong. The tallest stems are about 40 inches. And it blooms in August with pure white flowers.

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They are gorgeous - just right for that space.

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Here's a picture of a giant Dutchman's pipe vine flower here at Bohunk Botanical Gardens.

To appreciate this flower it is necessary to see the front and back. The bloom is about the size of a hand .

The flower is pollenated by flies and gnats that travel down the throat of the flower to the chamber in the back of it. They get trapped inside but the plant doesn't eat them. Instead it feeds them and places pollen on them. When the flower dies they escape and go on to pollenate another flower.

The plant is highly toxic to humans and pets if ingested. Dutchman pipe vines are the host plant for pipevine swallowtail butterflies...except this variety, which we recently discovered is also toxic to them. sigh.... So now that it bloomed, Mrs Bohunk wants it replaced with another variety that her butterfly babies can safely feed on.

Dirk Bohunk

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That is a remarkable, remarkable flower. But if you're trying to raise Pipevine Swallowtails, here's some information on native pipevines, some of which we've featured before. Now that we've seen that big flower, go ahead and rip it out! The butterflies will be worth it.

More from the University of Florida on Pipevines and Pipevine Swallowtails

Aristolochia species are commonly known as pipevines or Dutchman's pipes because the flowers of some species are shaped like tobacco pipes (Figure 13). They are also known as birthworts ("wort" is Old English for herbaceous plant) because of their historical use in child birth. The name Aristolochia is derived from the Greek roots aristos (best) and lochia (delivery or child birth) (Crosswhite & Crosswhite 1985, Flora of North America undated). All Aristolochiaceae are believed to contain pharmacologically active aristolochic acids (Chen & Zhu 1987).

Although they are now officially banned in many countries, Aristolochia-derived herbal products or parts of the plants themselves are still used in many areas of the world for various conditions including snake bite, gastrointestinal problems, respiratory problems, wounds, infectious diseases, and fever . .

Virginia snakeroot, Aristolochia serpentaria L., has been used for many medical applications . . and preparations made from it are still for sale online. An extract of the southwestern pipevine, Aristolochia watsonii . . was the main ingredient in the snakeroot oil sold by traveling "snakeroot doctors" at medicine shows in the Old West during the 19th century . . .

All of our native species of Aristolochia within the range of the pipevine swallowtail are documented larval hosts . .

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Aristolochia tomentosa bud Credit Donald W. Hall

Various exotic Aristolochia species are planted as ornamentals because of their unusual and sometimes beautiful flowers. Some of these may be too toxic (or too distasteful) for pipevine swallowtail larvae and may be "death traps" for the larvae.

As Dirk and his wife have discovered concerning the fabulous, exotic pipevine above.

Much more at the link. Including mimicry between pipevine swallowtails and black swallowtails, other swallowtails, red-spotted purples and . . millipedes?

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Aug. 17


Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:18 PM




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1 that are used young as a veggie?

Tampon Timmy's son?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 24, 2024 01:22 PM (CSZ0v)

2 I need to start planning for my garden next year. It will be corn and potatoes and tomatoes, and of course squash. I am rethinking the beans and the cucumbers.

Posted by: Colonel at August 24, 2024 01:23 PM (D7oie)

3 stupid sock

Posted by: Kindltot at August 24, 2024 01:24 PM (D7oie)

4 Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Posted by: Ce gars qui pense toujours que ça commence. at August 24, 2024 01:24 PM (VdhcA)

5 Any idea how to keep the mice out of my bird feeder?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2024 01:26 PM (RIvkX)

6 Well Butch and Sunni's Adventure in Space is continuing until next year when SpaceX sends a Dragon for them.

Boeing is so done.

Posted by: pawn at August 24, 2024 01:26 PM (QB+5g)

7 this year I planted a lot of tomatoes, but I planted the Cherokee Purples in the corner where then didn't get much water and competed with the lawn edge, so there are not much of those. What I planted a lot of were the volunteers from last year's patch which turned out to be cherry tomatoes. They are lovely and early ripening, but a pain to pick.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 24, 2024 01:27 PM (D7oie)

8 I haven't had a lot from my container tomatoes this year, which are cherry tomatoes. I've fed them, watered them, but still they languish. Usually I can dry some and give some to neighbors, but not this summer. Eating them as fast as I pick them. Black Cherry is the best.

Posted by: skywch at August 24, 2024 01:32 PM (uqhmb)

9 I have that same type of hosta and they are blooming now. I love the very strong lily like scent. We moved a bunch of plants in the spring, including several hydrangeas. I have never seen hydrangea bloom the same year its transplanted but one of mine has a tiny pink bloom! I'm very excited to see this. Very unexpected!
I have a few persimmons on the tree. It's not so loaded as it was last year. That was an insane amount of fruit. Just drooping down limbs loaded with fruit from bottom to top! Thank heavens it's not so much this year.
We haven't gotten any rain for awhile and the grass around the big trees is dry and crunchy and not growing much. We need a good soaking rain.
My local nursery has chysanthemums out now. I will wait until they're showing color so I can get two bright yellow ones to flank my purple door.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 24, 2024 01:32 PM (4XwPj)

10 Beautiful hummingbird , where at in Wisconsin?

Posted by: Bruce at August 24, 2024 01:34 PM (esnLI)

11 I've been trying to grow ginger as a house plant, by picking a likely looking root from the store and sprouting it.

And it works! It has put up shoots and leaves twice since I potted it. It's currently outside, since it's been hot and I figured it might enjoy that more than being inside under the grow lights.

Hopefully, last night's rain didn't make things too cold for it.

I'm hoping the turmeric root does the same thing eventually, but it only had one spot on the root that looked likely for roots or shoots and I'm not sure that's sufficient.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 24, 2024 01:35 PM (kvrZb)

12 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
See the deer ate all cucumber leaves outside the fence, but thet don't eat any cucumbers or flowers at least.
Still but a few tomatoes but that's ll for now.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2024 01:36 PM (fwDg9)

13 Cherry tomatoes are cute at first, a snack while you tend to the real tomatoes. Then they become a tribble infestation. Or do I mean triffid?

I might not plant any next year.

I'm gonna plant maybe four top flavorful maters next year and use the rest of the space for hot peppers, herbs, and other stuff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 24, 2024 01:37 PM (kpS4V)

14 Have a couple of bell pepper plants in pots, and one pepper is turning red. Hoping the big doe that ate the tops off them earlier this year doesn't come back. I set my rosemary plant by them and twined the branches around the peppers, to deter her.

Posted by: skywch at August 24, 2024 01:38 PM (uqhmb)

15 Any idea how to keep the mice out of my bird feeder?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKcruJ36BfM

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 24, 2024 01:39 PM (CSZ0v)

16 All Hail Eris at August 24, 2024 01:37 PM

You might be able to find an early determinate cherry that would stop before the big tomatoes. Here, I like Cherry Chocolate in fall, when the other tomatoes lose their flavor as the nights cool. They're a pain to pick in hot weather. Hard to see on the plant.

Posted by: KT at August 24, 2024 01:45 PM (xekrU)

17 5 Any idea how to keep the mice out of my bird feeder?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2024 01:26 PM (RIvkX)

I hang my birdfeeder by a wire from a branch so that it’s about 6’ off the ground. I have a squirrel baffle on top to keep them out of it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 24, 2024 01:45 PM (gBVkZ)

18 I live on a farm. It is not unusual to see deer, wild turkeys, rabbits, or even red foxes wandering through my yard.

The foxes like the persimmons.

When I was a kid, we could hear whipoorwill calling every night in the summer. Haven't heard any around for decades. Wonder why they left. Last summer there was a cuckoo. Haven't heard from him this year either.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 24, 2024 01:45 PM (4XwPj)

19 The gourds made remember something I'd forgotten about.... Casa Grande, AZ has a gourd festival, sponsored by a local farm - Wuertz Farm - and they have thousands of dried gourds for sale, but the festival is held at the fairgrounds. I was visiting my mother in Casa Grande one year while the festival was taking place so we went because she was someone who wanted to do ALL THE CRAFTS. I was amazed at how polished some of the finished projects were, they were artwork, truly. From these ratty-looking gourds that were sitting in wire bins under the Arizona sun. It was just something I never would have imagined.

This is a delightful thread, thank you for putting it up, KT. The butterflies and the hummingbirds are just lovely.

Posted by: Appycay at August 24, 2024 01:47 PM (EdYR/)

20 Hummingducks!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 24, 2024 01:51 PM (CSZ0v)

21 I met a woman that grew the big round gourds. She would do pyrography and use paint to do city scenes on them, to be used as lampshades.

I got my cotton seed today, so will contact the extension service and see if I can grow a few plants legally. I also got two orders of processed, natural cotton. It's interesting to see the variety.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 24, 2024 01:56 PM (dDSBl)

22 You need a permit to grow cotton plants in your garden? Sounds a bit too Big Brother!

Posted by: Ciampino - Lo Spazio e infinito #11 at August 24, 2024 01:59 PM (qfLjt)

23 to be used as lampshades.

Y'know who else made lampshades?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 24, 2024 02:02 PM (CSZ0v)

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10 Beautiful hummingbird , where at in Wisconsin?
Posted by: Bruce at August 24, 2024 01:34 PM (esnLI)

Hi Bruce, He lives in Green Lake Wisconsin. Near Oshkosh. Apparently, all the birders in the area are trying to get a picture of it but so far, his was the best.

Posted by: WeeKreekFarmGirl at August 24, 2024 02:03 PM (VekWy)

25 There's a list of states where there are restrictions on growing cotton. It's pretty much any state where it's grown commercially. Has to do with preventing boll weevil infestation. No idea where they grow cotton in Kansas but it's on the list.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 24, 2024 02:06 PM (dDSBl)

26 Somebody needs to come up with a formulation for Okra Cola. The name is just right. It must be marketed.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at August 24, 2024 02:08 PM (JSF6W)

27 I hang my birdfeeder by a wire from a branch so that it’s about 6’ off the ground. I have a squirrel baffle on top to keep them out of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 24, 2024 01:45 PM (gBVkZ)
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I see on the internetz mixing cayenne with the feed works too

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 24, 2024 02:09 PM (RIvkX)

28 25 There's a list of states where there are restrictions on growing cotton. It's pretty much any state where it's grown commercially. Has to do with preventing boll weevil infestation. No idea where they grow cotton in Kansas but it's on the list.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August

We continue to grow a lot of cotton here in AL. A whole field of puffballs is really pretty.

Posted by: Piper at August 24, 2024 02:10 PM (pZEOD)

29 "Bored of the Rings" had Orca Cola 🧌

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 24, 2024 02:13 PM (kpS4V)

30 26 Somebody needs to come up with a formulation for Okra Cola. The name is just right. It must be marketed.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at August 24, 2024 02:08 PM (JSF6W
Probably get a t-shirt at the Okra Strut in Irmo, S.C. It is a big deal.

Posted by: Eromero at August 24, 2024 02:14 PM (LHPAg)

31 Hi Bruce, He lives in Green Lake Wisconsin. Near Oshkosh. Apparently, all the birders in the area are trying to get a picture of it but so far, his was the best.
Posted by: WeeKreekFarmGirl

I know the place well.

Thank you!

Posted by: Bruce at August 24, 2024 02:14 PM (esnLI)

32 What an amazing photo of the albino hummingbird! Tell him it's OK to be white.

The ones here have been very aggressive. All they do is drink nectar and chase each other.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 24, 2024 02:20 PM (w6EFb)

33 BUSHES!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 24, 2024 02:21 PM (guGkK)

34 Thanks for the pretty pics. My bee weeds are thriving this year. Another name for them is Navajo spinach, They are tough like the Navajo and doing well in spite of the dry hot summer we have had. The sunflower cousins loved it last year when we were unusually wet for this area, this year only the ones that get a bit of runoff from the horse troughs, or otherwise get a bit of extra water are blooming. Maybe some of the others will be late blooms if we continue to get a bit of rain like we got this week.

Posted by: PaleRider used to be simply irredeemable at August 24, 2024 02:21 PM (83y/e)

35 We are getting a little precipitation and we have .5" of snow in the Sierras at about 8k feet.
Both rare in August in my AO.
That albino hummingbird is crazy. I love hummingbirds, we are blessed with many. The ruby throated variety. I'll be sitting outside having coffee and they buzz by me like big mosquitos.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 24, 2024 02:21 PM (MeG8a)

36 I wonder if those tomatoes are all cut by hand or is there a machine that does it.

Posted by: Tuna at August 24, 2024 02:28 PM (oaGWv)

37 It's been so hot & dry all summer, here... glad I didn't attempt much beyond a few pots of flowers under our canopy!

Had to drive across the Palouse yesterday-- oh, joy-- it's harvest time! Also, was very windy & t-storm on the way, so farmers were scrambling to get their last grains cut.

DUSTY! And now I have a ferocious sinus headache, cough, runny nose...

Posted by: JQ at August 24, 2024 02:29 PM (njWTi)

38 . The ruby throated variety. I'll be sitting outside having coffee and they buzz by me like big mosquitos.

My mom had many hummingbird feeders. You couldn't sit on that portion of the deck because those aggressive little boogers would dive bomb you until you left.

Posted by: Tuna at August 24, 2024 02:31 PM (oaGWv)

39 I stopped putting up hummingbird feeders because of all the wasps they attracted. Got tired of getting stung half the time, while taking feeder down for clean/refill.

Posted by: JQ at August 24, 2024 02:33 PM (njWTi)

40 I've been trying to grow Habanero and Jalapeno peppers. Last year I had a great harvest, this year...the plants are growing nice but not producing any fruit. It's driving me crazy.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at August 24, 2024 02:39 PM (ZlKnD)

41 This is how sun-dried tomatoes are made in southern Italy... no chemicals .

No bugs?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 24, 2024 02:39 PM (CSZ0v)

42 Hoping to get the deck rebuilt soon-- and with a permanent roof over it-- so I can enjoy raining mornings outdoors with my cuppa.

That will be so sweet!

Posted by: JQ at August 24, 2024 02:41 PM (njWTi)

43 "No bugs?"

Plenty of rats.

Posted by: pawn at August 24, 2024 02:42 PM (QB+5g)

44 The pipe vines are extremely enthusiastic growers. I have a small front yard and have to constantly cut back vines that have gotten established, I assume by birds dropping seed. Not to mention the porcelain berry....

Posted by: Lirio100 at August 24, 2024 02:49 PM (I5U35)

45 I've been trying to grow Habanero and Jalapeno peppers. Last year I had a great harvest, this year...the plants are growing nice but not producing any fruit. It's driving me crazy.
Posted by: Midnight Rambler
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I've grown them in containers. Noticed that they do better when roots aren't allowed to overheat, so kept the pots shaded by other pots or plants.
Do you mulch around your plants?

Posted by: JQ at August 24, 2024 02:50 PM (njWTi)

46 We don't have humming bird feeders but we do have a couple of bushes with hundreds of tiny red blossoms that the birds go crazy over. I wish I knew wtf they are, LOL.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 24, 2024 02:56 PM (MeG8a)

47 I grew some Shishito peppers on a whim this year. 2 plants are putting out so many peppers !

They are tasty just blistered in a pan.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 24, 2024 02:57 PM (WF/xn)

48 If you want a balanced diet of fruit, vegetable and grain you can just eat corn.

It’s considered all three at some point in its life cycle.

I just learned that piece of Cliff Clavin trivia.

Posted by: polynikes at August 24, 2024 03:01 PM (B1dzx)

49 I also finally learned what the bush was that my cats go crazy for.

Texas Sage bush. It’s like catnip to them.

Posted by: polynikes at August 24, 2024 03:04 PM (B1dzx)

50 I have never seen an albino hummer...when we lived in LA, I had a yard full of plants designed to attract hummers and butterflies....and it worked! And yes, they are very territorial, so would sit and watch them as they chased each other away.

Posted by: Grateful at August 24, 2024 03:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

51 This is how sun-dried tomatoes are made in southern Italy... no chemicals .

No bugs?


Ok, ok. Sun-dried tomatoes and Raid. You'll hardly notice!

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2024 03:14 PM (D5SRX)

52 Puttering with plumbing, new shut off valve for cold before kitchen sink, new shut off valve as a drain. Now to cut out the T valve that's leaking but does nothing as it goes to a dead end.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2024 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

53 I stopped putting up hummingbird feeders because of all the wasps they attracted. Got tired of getting stung half the time, while taking feeder down for clean/refill.
Posted by: JQ
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After having two torn down by bears, I gave up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 24, 2024 03:17 PM (XeU6L)

54 Tastefully nood pets

Posted by: Appycay at August 24, 2024 03:23 PM (EdYR/)

55 And saw my birdbath is done for, have to get a new one

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2024 03:24 PM (fwDg9)

56 45 I've been trying to grow Habanero and Jalapeno peppers. Last year I had a great harvest, this year...the plants are growing nice but not producing any fruit. It's driving me crazy.
Posted by: Midnight Rambler
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I've grown them in containers. Noticed that they do better when roots aren't allowed to overheat, so kept the pots shaded by other pots or plants.
Do you mulch around your plants?

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Thanks for your answer. No, I don't mulch. I'm still getting the hang of this garden thing after spending most of my life in a city., lol.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at August 24, 2024 03:34 PM (ZlKnD)

57 I've got three pots of marigolds on my deck, big bushes of foliage and the flowers are starting to hit full bloom. But I haven't been seeing many bees around them. Usually the bees are all over 'em, but this year....I dunno. Maybe there's just enough other flowers out there the in-town bees are otherwise occupied...

Posted by: Castle Guy at August 24, 2024 04:02 PM (Lhaco)

58 From Boise area: Highs dropping to 80's, lows to low 60's - fall is approaching (first yellow leaves on the linden!). Air quality improved.

Picking SunGold cherry tomatoes, paste tomatoes and slicing tomatoes (still issues with blossom end rot). Getting some zucchini. Green beans about to the end of their season - I cut down one of the rows. We didn't get any to freeze, and the same with the poor corn harvest - we're eating corn fresh but will have none to freeze. Meditating on letting part of the bed lay fallow next year, or planting beans to improve the soil.

Cantaloupes all ripening at once, so I'm hastening to cut them up and freeze them. Husband's picking a few red raspberries - strawberries appear to have stopped. One pumpkin harvested, 5 more on the vine. The sweet potato vines look healthy. (I've heard you can eat carrot tops and sweet potato leaves - haven't tried either.)

I've picked up my prize money from the Western Idaho Fair - exhibit/ribbon pickup is this coming Monday.

Posted by: Pat* at August 24, 2024 09:35 PM (EUbvY)

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