THE MORNING RANT: The Explosive Hazard of EVs in Parking Garages; and Other EV Follies

While electric vehicle sales may not amount to more than a single-digit market share, the numbers on the road are now significant enough that there is a growing conversation over whether EVs should be allowed in parking structures. Part of that discussion is about how the owners of buildings that contain parking structures can protect and insure against an unknown number of potential bombs that may be parked there at any given time.

This awful story from South Korea is likely to be repeated with growing frequency, and it is fueling the discussions I just referenced.

“South Korea holds emergency meeting as EV fires stir consumer fear” [Reuters – 8/12/2024]

South Korean officials met on Monday to discuss electric vehicle safety and whether to require car firms to disclose battery brands amid growing consumer concern after an EV blaze in an underground garage extensively damaged an apartment block.

It doesn’t matter what brand of battery is in the EV, what matters is that it’s a lithium ion EV battery, which by nature is prone to runaway thermal fires.

The fire on Aug. 1, which appeared to start spontaneously in a Mercedes-Benz EV parked below a residential building, took eight hours to put out, destroying or damaging about 140 cars and forcing some residents to move to shelters.

I have previously joked about requiring a prominent warning label on the hood of EVs, cautioning about the fire hazard EVs pose to their drivers and to those nearby. Maybe it’s time to stop joking.

Images published in media of dozens of charred cars with only their metal frames remaining in the parking lot fire have fuelled consumer fears about EVs, likely exacerbated because so many people in South Korea live in apartments, often with parking lots below.

An Automotive News piece a few days ago titled “Lithium ion battery fire regulation could help heal industrywide black eye” acknowledges that consumers are becoming scared of lithium batteries, therefore help is needed from the federal bureaucracy to issue regulatory decrees that will somehow make lithium batteries safe. The piece also notes that in 2023, in New York City alone, there were 268 fires started by lithium ion batteries on various transportation devices, resulting in 18 deaths and 150 injuries. Of course, the federal government can no more mandate that lithium ion batteries stop combusting than it can mandate that straw be spun into gold.

Instead, I’d recommend that the government simply ban EVs from being allowed in any parking garages or covered structures. (And yes, that is somewhat counter to my anti-regulation ethos, but remember, Team EV tried to use the power of government to take away my gasoline-powered car, so I have every right to retaliate with the same powerful weapon.)

Here is a short video of the electric Mercedes exploding. Please note that it goes from barely smoking to a fiery explosion in just 21 seconds.

This Fortune piece dated 8/07/2024 reports that ”Several office buildings [in South Korea] have now banned EVs from entering and parking, according to notices on social media.” That’s wise.

Last month I inquired in one of my pieces about how insurance companies are dealing with the growing menace of EV fires, especially regarding all the collateral damage they can cause when they spontaneously combust. I received an email response from a gentleman named Bill Schneider who has a depth of experience at integrated facilities management, including the insurance aspect. I received this prophetic email from Mr. Schneider just four days before the Korean EV disaster.

Consider a potential BEV [“Battery Electric Vehicle”] fire in either scenario:
1. "3 plus 1" mixed-use building, where the parking deck is on the bottom floor, and that floor is below ground (so there is no way to easily remove BEVs from anything else combustible), and there are residential apartments and commercial shops/offices above the deck...or...
2. Multi-story parking deck at, say, a major airport (think one of the parking decks at DFW) where a cluster of BEVs are parked together and a fire breaks out.
Guess what? Parking deck suppression systems are nothing more than sprinklers with water in them - water that is hopelessly inefficient to quench a burning lithium battery.
Plus, with [internal combustion vehicles] gasoline is at least dispersed when sprinklers are activated - but BEV batteries are buried deep inside the vehicle chassis, meaning that when sprinklers activate, they cannot get water to the source of the fire.
Imagine the inferno if a cluster of 30 BEVs were parked next to each other in the center of the Terminal A parking deck, on the fourth or fifth floor, right in the middle of the structure. Or on the bottom floor, near a wall.
I presented this scenario to the SME - and the industry has NO. ANSWER. This isn't the FLS [Fire/Life Safety] industry's fault - rather, it's based on the constraints of fighting BEV fires, where the battery burns far hotter, and all three elements of the Fire Triangle are present in the battery (and remain present, not being able to be dispersed), and the batteries are buried so deep inside the vehicle chassis that suppression liquids cannot reach the source of the fire.
Fire marshals who become aware of the risk? They simply forbid BEVs from being parked inside a structure. Because that's all they can do.

Fire Marshalls are empowered to limit the number of people who may enter a building for fire safety reasons. They should also be able to limit the number of EVs that may park in a building’s garage. I’d recommend the maximum number of EVs allowed in a parking garage be limited to zero.

Thanks again to Mr. Schneider, who also contributes to Master Resource (“A Free Market Energy Blog”

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Just last week, a container ship suffered a violent explosion at the busy Chinese port of Ningbo-Zhoushan. [h/t – Comrade Arthur]

CCTV, citing preliminary findings from authorities, said the goods included lithium batteries and tert-Butyl peroxybenzoate, an organic compound that is flammable and explosive…

Of course it included lithium batteries.

Here, from the South China Morning Post, is the shocking video, complete with massive fireball,

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This story from California did receive plenty of media coverage…

“I-15 opens near Barstow after closure due to fire from semi hauling lithium batteries” [News 3 Las Vegas - 7/28/2024]

Interstate 15 is closed in both directions south of the Nevada/California state line because a semi-truck hauling lithium-ion batteries caught fire.

I don’t have much to add, other than it is beyond ridiculous that one vehicle hauling lithium batteries could cause such an intense fire that it took nearly two days before the truck could be extinguished, removed, and the highway cleaned up so that all lanes of traffic could re-open.

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Whenever I post about EV fires, I receive correspondence pointing out that gasoline powered cars also sometimes catch fire when involved in wrecks. True, but the nature, speed, and intensity of the fires are different. I’m sure that I’ve never heard of an ICE vehicle fire such as this one involving a new Tesla Cybertruck:

“Driver dies after Tesla Cybertruck slams into culvert, bursts into flames in Baytown area, DPS says” [KHOU – 8/05/2024]

DPS said State Troopers have not been able to identify the driver due to severe burns. DPS also said they could not identify the license plate or VIN due to the fire.

What a clever feature EVs have! If you die in a wreck while driving an EV, it can conveniently serve as your crematorium too.

I apologize for that morbid humor, sort of, but I have several firefighter correspondents who are passionate about the danger EVs pose, and how ridiculously difficult it is to extinguish an EV fire. Driving an EV puts firefighters' lives in danger, and that is not OK with me.

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Elon Musk is clearly on our team politically, for which I am grateful, and I wish him great prosperity in all his other ventures, but I will not be sad if Tesla declines as the rest of the EV industry fades away.

Speaking of which…
[h/t - Moron Robbie]

“More Than Half of Teslas Are Being Traded in for Gas Cars” [Edmunds – 7/23/2024]

More than half of Teslas traded in at dealerships so far in 2024 were traded in for a gas vehicle. According to Edmunds data, from January to July of 2024, 51% of used Teslas were traded for gas, and 32% were traded for an EV.

The novelty, prestige, and “exclusive” hassle of owning an EV soon give way to fatigue. There are a lot of experiences that people are glad to have had once, but don’t want to repeat. I suspect that owning an EV was one of those experiences for a great many people.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)

2 Yesss!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)

3 Feature, not a bug?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:01 AM (Pijte)

4 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Did I ever sleep in. Horrible art.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:02 AM (W/lyH)

5 Otter status: Culled.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:02 AM (v6JzV)

6 Will I live long enough to see a day we have nothing to rant about?

Maybe we need a 5 year plan?!

Posted by: Stateless at August 16, 2024 11:02 AM (jvJvP)

7 I'd like to see homeowners insurance policy riders for EV owners.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

8 I didn't see this at CNN's website, so it obviously never actually happened.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

9 But...EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (99eI0)

10 Autonomous cars honking at each other in parking lots....ain't AI great?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

11 EV fires are like inflation. It isn't a problem. But if it were a problem, there are plenty of government graphs showing ICE cars catch fire more, so EVs are safer. And any reports to the contrary are anecdotal and selective amplification by the media of a non-existent issue.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (JCZqz)

12 I think the Tesla is a very 'pretty', I've sat in one, some really nice features but definitely not a car I would want to buy.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (ZtyUu)

13 the EV thing isn't working out, so better just ban all cars

-leftists

Posted by: brak at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (NGHTx)

14 >>I don’t have much to add, other than it is beyond ridiculous that one vehicle hauling lithium batteries could cause such an intense fire that it took nearly two days before the truck could be extinguished, removed, and the highway cleaned up so that all lanes of traffic could re-open.

Funny with all our MSM obsession with the environment, this wasn't a bigger story:Otay Mesa battery facility fire could take weeks to put out entirely 5/20/24

The fire began last Wednesday at the Gateway Energy Storage facility and flare-ups over the weekend put evacuations warnings for the surrounding area back in place.
Pascua said things began to reignite Friday night.

“You have to put water on it to keep the fire confined, but that water damages the batteries also allowing them to arc starting another fire. We’re just trying to keep the public safe and keep the fire contained to the building,” he said.

The chain reaction can happen when a lithium-ion battery creates heat faster than it can dissipate. That rapid increase of temperature can then turn to fire.

“Here in the middle of nowhere and it’s still dangerous. . . ."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:05 AM (Pijte)

15 EV fires are like inflation. It isn't a problem. But if it were a problem, there are plenty of government graphs showing ICE cars catch fire more, so EVs are safer. And any reports to the contrary are anecdotal and selective amplification by the media of a non-existent issue.

You forgot to mention racist.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

16 Expensive toys, aren't they?

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2024 11:06 AM (zedJg)

17 come down to crazy kamala's ev emporium.

these cars are so hot, they melting prices.

the popularity is exploding.

get them now and beat the fire sale...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 16, 2024 11:06 AM (v6XNT)

18 I had not seen "Pippi Ragestocking" before.

Consider that, ah, borrowed.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 16, 2024 11:07 AM (LxER7)

19 Funny with all our MSM obsession with the environment, this wasn't a bigger story:Otay Mesa battery facility fire could take weeks to put out entirely 5/20/24

I was unaware that Buckwheat was involved with Li ion batteries.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:07 AM (xCA6C)

20 Fire marshals who become aware of the risk? They simply forbid BEVs from being parked inside a structure. Because that's all they can do.

Are they allowed in tunnels? Aren't they hazmat vehicles?

Posted by: t-bird at August 16, 2024 11:08 AM (SVUxP)

21 Autonomous cars honking at each other in parking lots....ain't AI great?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

https://tinyurl.com/v9a38pcf

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:08 AM (AwYPR)

22 "It doesn’t matter what brand of battery is in the EV, what matters is that it’s a lithium ion EV battery,.."

There are some brands considered much more reliable than others. Samsung and a couple others seem relatively safe ... for bikes at least. It would be interesting to see the whole list, and which cause the most fires.

Of course accidents or submersion in water ... all lithium (iron?) batteries can be dangerous, but some are more likely to spontaneously combust.

"Safety: LiFePO4 (lithium iron) batteries are generally considered safer than lithium-ion batteries, as they are less prone to overheating and catching fire."

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2024 11:09 AM (Cus5s)

23 There are a lot of experiences that people are glad to have had once, but don’t want to repeat.

But enough about my dating history.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:09 AM (99eI0)

24 Autonomous cars honking at each other in parking lots....ain't AI great?

Hey! I'm walkin' here!

Posted by: Autonomous cars at August 16, 2024 11:09 AM (xCA6C)

25 In our new 15 minute cities, there's no need for cars at all. People will still own/store e-bikes and scooters, so I guess we will all burn up anyway.

Posted by: Ashes to Ashes, Funk to Funky at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (CV8a5)

26
What a clever feature EVs have! If you die in a wreck while driving an EV, it can conveniently serve as your crematorium too.

I hereby christen the Tesla Cybertruck as the "Alice May"

Posted by: Robert Service at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (yOPBE)

27 All lithium batteries are dangerous, but by far the most dangerous are the cheapo dogshit made as aftermarket replacements. Usually, they are not replacements at all, but original batteries well past their lives that are refurbished and sold as replacements. The new brand-name battery replacements are so expensive that many owners go with the cheapo shit, not realizing how dangerous it is.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)

28 Was going to look at EVs today, but have to run and get in the food line outside of KamalaMart before the bread is gone.

Posted by: Roy at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (z+ik4)

29 Is there something about parking garages that makes the vehicles more likely to explode there than if they were parked in the open air? What is the number of outside explosions compared to those in garages?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)

30 Will I live long enough to see a day we have nothing to rant about?

Maybe we need a 5 year plan?!

Posted by: Stateless

Vote for my socialist common sense rant control policy

Posted by: KumDumpster / Tampon Ticket at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (MsrgL)

31
I have a 2000 watt lithium ion phosphate battery. Anyone know why the 'phosphate' part makes it safer?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (RKVpM)

32 Conversation at work recently:

Co-worker: "Is your new bike electric?"

Lizzy: "No, I'm not a fan of spontaneous combustion."

Several co-workers: *blank stare*

Lizzy: "You guys do know that electric bike and car batteries burst into flames, right?

Co-workers: *more blank stares*

Lizzy [notes recent house fire in Boulder caused by ev car and Otay fire that's been burning for weeks]

Co-worker who asked about bike: "Why have I never heard anything about this. . .?"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (Pijte)

33 EVs would be banned and outlawed as stupid and dangerous if they weren't the darlings of the left and WEF crowd. Not joking.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

34 And I got a bad rap!

Posted by: Ford pinto. at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (uBBbP)

35 Co-worker who asked about bike: "Why have I never heard anything about this. . .?"

I'm going with "because you're an idiot".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (xCA6C)

36 To make an omelette you have to crack a few eggs.

(And don't ask any questions about the omelette, if there is one at the end of all this, you won't get any of it anyway.)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (0wqKS)

37 But...EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?
Posted by: NR Pax

I'll smile when she sees the half mile long line of goat fuckers waiting their turn to rape her corpse.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (MsrgL)

38 EV fires are like inflation. It isn't a problem. But if it were a problem, there are plenty of government graphs showing ICE cars catch fire more, so EVs are safer. And any reports to the contrary are anecdotal and selective amplification by the media of a non-existent issue.

Thanks for doxxing my job.

Posted by: (not) Joe Xiden at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (yOPBE)

39 34 And I got a bad rap!
Posted by: Ford pinto. at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (uBBbP)

Well at least your South American marketing team weren't idiots...

Posted by: Chevy Nova at August 16, 2024 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

40 31
I have a 2000 watt lithium ion phosphate battery. Anyone know why the 'phosphate' part makes it safer?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (RKVpM)

WHIIIIIIITTTTE PHOOOOOOSPHATE! ARRRRRGH!

Posted by: Aoc at August 16, 2024 11:13 AM (uBBbP)

41 39 34 And I got a bad rap!
Posted by: Ford pinto. at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (uBBbP)

Well at least your South American marketing team weren't idiots...
Posted by: Chevy Nova at August 16, 2024 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

Not gonna lie, I liked to blow up.

Posted by: Corvair at August 16, 2024 11:14 AM (uBBbP)

42 Weren’t lithium batteries responsible for laptops catching fire on planes several years ago?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:14 AM (v6JzV)

43 Anyone know why the 'phosphate' part makes it safer?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (RKVpM)

Makes its' own fire retardant foam?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

44 37 But...EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?
Posted by: NR Pax

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The only thing that will stop Greta from crying is the overthrow of western civilization and a return to the noble savagery when we were at one with nature.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

45 9
‘ EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?’

If I could get away with it, I’d give that entitled little shit the piñata treatment.
And the only smile would be mine.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:15 AM (R9BFC)

46 Outstanding post, Buck!!

Yep, as per my firefighter training and experience... when you see the white smoke coming from below: GET THE F*CK AWAY. FAST. 6,000°F flames are going to shoot out from any side. We cannot save you.

Posted by: Danimal28 at August 16, 2024 11:15 AM (klw0w)

47 21 Autonomous cars honking at each other in parking lots....ain't AI great?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

https://tinyurl.com/v9a38pcf
Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2024 11:08 AM (AwYPR)

Lol. Trust us they say.

Posted by: Corvair at August 16, 2024 11:16 AM (uBBbP)

48 I was unaware that Buckwheat was involved with Li ion batteries.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:07 AM (xCA6C)

Lol. Took me a second. O-tay!

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 16, 2024 11:16 AM (JCLJi)

49 37 I'll smile when she sees the half mile long line of goat fuckers waiting their turn to rape her corpse.
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (MsrgL)

Wonder if Disney would use that video to boost ratings?

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:16 AM (99eI0)

50 There are a lot of experiences that people are glad to have had once, but don’t want to repeat. I suspect that owning an EV was one of those experiences for a great many people.

eg. Maserati BiTurbo

Posted by: DaveA at August 16, 2024 11:16 AM (FhXTo)

51 40 31
I have a 2000 watt lithium ion phosphate battery. Anyone know why the 'phosphate' part makes it safer?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 16, 2024 11:11 AM (RKVpM)

WHIIIIIIITTTTE PHOOOOOOSPHATE! ARRRRRGH!
Posted by: Aoc

Driving an EV in combat is a War Crime!!!

Posted by: Geneva Convention at August 16, 2024 11:17 AM (JCZqz)

52 That spontaneous car combustion is a #cheapfake.

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:17 AM (JrF6z)

53 I have some small LiFePo batteries for ham radio use. They are supposedly more stable than standard LiFe batteries.

Posted by: PabloD at August 16, 2024 11:17 AM (AMez3)

54 >> But...EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?

Greta is a very troubled girl, dealing with a variety of issues including autism, depression, anxiety, and self-inflicted starvation. Her activist mom convinced her that it's the polluted environment that caused these issues.
This is why she is so invested in her cause, this is why she [honestly believes we are all killing her by not doing whatever it is she thinks we should be doing for the environment.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:17 AM (Pijte)

55 Corvairs didn't combust. They were criticized mostly for roll-overs because of rear swing axle. My Monza has front and rear stabilizer bars and handles really well. Ralph Nader is/was an asshole.

Posted by: Monza 900 at August 16, 2024 11:18 AM (CV8a5)

56 I may mixing things up in terms of battery composition. Bottom line - I was told to get the LiFePo ones as they're more tolerant of heat.

Posted by: PabloD at August 16, 2024 11:18 AM (AMez3)

57 Yep, as per my firefighter training and experience... when you see the white smoke coming from below: GET THE F*CK AWAY. FAST. 6,000°F flames are going to shoot out from any side. We cannot save you.
Posted by: Danimal28

EVs should be made out of steel, then, so they won't melt.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at August 16, 2024 11:18 AM (JCZqz)

58 ut...EVs will stop Greta from crying. Don't you want Pippi Ragestocking to smile again?
Posted by: NR Pax

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The only thing that will stop Greta from crying is the overthrow of western civilization and a return to the noble savagery when we were at one with nature.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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Would Pippi Longshit even notice or recognize that? I think she's virtually completely brain-dead; just a fleshy automaton who has no awareness or insight and just does whatever she's programmed to do. I think her handlers could tell her tomorrow that huge gas-guzzling SUVs will save the planet because reasons, and she'd be out stumping for them in 24 hours.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

59 We had a conversation with students on campus some time ago about a policy prohibiting chargeable personal vehicles--of any kind--within our campus buildings.

Both the police chief and the director of campus facilities flat out said "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES. PERIOD."

It was an issue of campus safety and liability. I seriously doubt they will ever revisit this policy going forward.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 16, 2024 11:19 AM (7fElN)

60 >>I'm going with "because you're an idiot".

Sadly, yes. A very sweet person who is totally brainwashed.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:19 AM (Pijte)

61 It would be interesting to see the EPA mandate the purchase of electric cars while simultaneously banning the use of them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 16, 2024 11:19 AM (lTGtQ)

62 51
‘ Driving an EV in combat is a War Crime!!!’

The only prosecutable war crime is losing a war.
Winning makes all your actions righteous. Didn’t WWII teach you that?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (R9BFC)

63 Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:17 AM (Pijte)

Here's one for you. How does Greta differ from the average leftist activist.

#7 will SHOCK you

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (JrF6z)

64 Greta is a very troubled girl, dealing with a variety of issues including autism, depression, anxiety, and self-inflicted starvation.

I pitied her when she was a minor and it was obvious that her parents were using her to cover themselves in glory.

Now I have nothing but utter contempt for her. She can go live in the wilds of Sweden and not have human contact in order to find peace.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (99eI0)

65 Porky said O-tay! much more than Buckwheat. Porky had a growth spurt and was retired at age 7.

Posted by: Our Gang Follies of 1938 at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (CV8a5)

66 Monkey Pox / MPox complete rundown (14 minutes).

https://youtu.be/fVuWy11w-eI

411: minimal concern; vaccines save but not particularly effective

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:21 AM (d8zPm)

67 53 I have some small LiFePo batteries for ham radio use. They are supposedly more stable than standard LiFe batteries.
Posted by: PabloD

Po, you say? Call me. We might have a terrific job opportunity for you in Ukraine...

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at August 16, 2024 11:21 AM (JCZqz)

68 There are a lot of experiences that people are glad to have had once, but don’t want to repeat.

Marriage.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:21 AM (Mud1j)

69 The only prosecutable war crime is losing a war.
Winning makes all your actions righteous. Didn’t WWII teach you that?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (R9BFC)

Oh really?

Posted by: Israel at August 16, 2024 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

70 >> It would be interesting to see the EPA mandate the purchase of electric cars while simultaneously banning the use of them.

Kinda like how we have to both protect the whales from US Navy sonar while also supporting development offshore windfarms that kill the whales. Ditto for denying land development to protect spotted owls and other birds while supporting wind and solar farm that slaughter a ton of birds.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (Pijte)

71 65 Porky said O-tay! much more than Buckwheat. Porky had a growth spurt and was retired at age 7.
Posted by: Our Gang Follies of 1938 at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (CV8a5)

After which he opened a bar deep in the Florida swamp?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (LxER7)

72 The danger of fire is a main reason for me not considering an EV. Honestly, for my commute there is a chance something like an EV would make sense. It's consistent and I do not drive this particular car for anything but my commute.
However, I have an attached garage with a bedroom above.

Are hybrids also an issue? I know the battery packs aren't nearly the size, but EV fires get the press I don't know that I've heard of Hybrid fires.

Posted by: Inogame at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (53oGX)

73 >>I pitied her when she was a minor and it was obvious that her parents were using her to cover themselves in glory.

Now I have nothing but utter contempt for her. She can go live in the wilds of Sweden and not have human contact in order to find peace.
- - - -
Yes, no pity for her activism and support of vicious groups like antifa and Hamas.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2024 11:24 AM (Pijte)

74 Co-worker who asked about bike: "Why have I never heard anything about this. . .?"

I'm going with "because you're an idiot".
Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:12 AM (xCA6C)
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Ignorant, yes. But and idiot as in low intelligence? I'm not sure. Depending on where you live and your political leanings, you can be completely insulated from anything that contradicts your politics. If you're exposed to mostly leftwing dog feces media, you will never see anything that isn't "EV Good. Gas Bad."

In fact, you will read about how gas vehicles catch fire more often that EVs. Which might be technically true, given how many more gas vehicles are out there and that 99% of gas fires are after bad accidents. You will never ever learn that EV fire are much more dangerous because (1) they happen spontaneously and (2) they are almost impossible to put out.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:24 AM (iFTx/)

75 Here's one for you. How does Greta differ from the average leftist activist.

#7 will SHOCK you
Posted by: ...

Odds Greta's parents would have made her trans if she had been born 5 years later? I'm thinking 75%.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 16, 2024 11:24 AM (JCZqz)

76 I should probably make some sort of storage box for all of my batteries. Most of them are small but all it takes is one to cook off in the garage while I'm at work and - poof - goodbye new house.

Posted by: PabloD at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (AMez3)

77 I especially would not trust any samsung battery. I had one of their phones that hit over 220 degrees on the case.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

78 Great post , thx Buck. Given Trump's bromance with Musk , if he wins will federal EV mandates and tax breaks go bye bye? Inquiring minds want to know

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (gXGVH)

79 Those fire pics could give a guy the Eevy-Jeevys.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (lz/nK)

80 Monkey Pox / MPox complete rundown (14 minutes).

https://youtu.be/fVuWy11w-eI

411: minimal concern; vaccines save but not particularly effective
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know

If they are not effective, then they are not saving.
#LoveScienceSexually

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (Mud1j)

81 When I think of EV batteries, I think of this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISvdKHMF7Ak&t=81s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

82 78 Great post , thx Buck. Given Trump's bromance with Musk , if he wins will federal EV mandates and tax breaks go bye bye? Inquiring minds want to know
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (gXGVH)

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It was my understanding that Tesla cars don't qualify for the tax credit anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

83 If they are not effective, then they are not saving.
#LoveScienceSexually

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (Mud1j)

Safe. Typo.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:26 AM (d8zPm)

84 It is well documented that the Left doesn't care about the animals. Or women. Or blacks. There is nothing they will not sacrifice to "the cause".

So.... besides self-worship which is a given, can you think of a single thing the Left genuinely cares about - consistently - besides power, control and perversion?

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (JrF6z)

85 80 Monkey Pox / MPox complete rundown (14 minutes).

https://youtu.be/fVuWy11w-eI

411: minimal concern; vaccines save but not particularly effective
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know

If they are not effective, then they are not saving.
#LoveScienceSexually

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:25 AM (Mud1j)

As Pixy said this morn: Stop F**king Monkeys!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

86 @82 TJM, maybe not, I'm not sure, but the entire government forced EV crap should go the way of the dinosaurs

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (gXGVH)

87 69
‘ Oh really?
Posted by: Israel at ’

You got me there. The international community needs a Dr. Claw endorsed reconfiguration.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (R9BFC)

88 84 It is well documented that the Left doesn't care about the animals. Or women. Or blacks. There is nothing they will not sacrifice to "the cause".

So.... besides self-worship which is a given, can you think of a single thing the Left genuinely cares about - consistently - besides power, control and perversion?
Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (JrF6z)

=======

Our troll has made it abundantly clear that he doesn't care about poor people struggling because they're all fentanyl heads, or something. The well-educated are doing well enough, and that's all that matters to him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)

89 84 It is well documented that the Left doesn't care about the animals. Or women. Or blacks. There is nothing they will not sacrifice to "the cause".

So.... besides self-worship which is a given, can you think of a single thing the Left genuinely cares about - consistently - besides power, control and perversion?

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (JrF6z)

Itself

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

90 Are hybrids also an issue? I know the battery packs aren't nearly the size, but EV fires get the press I don't know that I've heard of Hybrid fires.
Posted by: Inogame at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (53oGX)

Depends. Some use NiMH instead of lithium.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (VGRuw)

91 As Pixy said this morn: Stop F**king Monkeys!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

Insufficient. Apparently monkeys are not required ... there is quite a bit of it in the US now ... but only in the community that shall not be named ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (d8zPm)

92 In fact, you will read about how gas vehicles catch fire more often that EVs.
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Every leftard statistic is a lie. Of commission or as you noted, omission. Every one.

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (JrF6z)

93 90 Are hybrids also an issue? I know the battery packs aren't nearly the size, but EV fires get the press I don't know that I've heard of Hybrid fires.
Posted by: Inogame at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (53oGX)

Depends. Some use NiMH instead of lithium.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (VGRuw)

That's heavy, man.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

94 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.

Maybe in the near future, when TayTay is installed as the Supreme Leader of the planet, and she forces everyone to drive electric cars, I have to care, but until then I couldn't possibly give less of a f**k.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

95 I should probably make some sort of storage box for all of my batteries. Most of them are small but all it takes is one to cook off in the garage while I'm at work and - poof - goodbye new house.
Posted by: PabloD

I honestly think it has more to do with shock & road vibration than anything else.

How many times have you heard of runaway fires out of millions and millions of Ryobi, Dewalt, Milwaukee and Makita Li-ion batteries?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (Mud1j)

96 The danger of fire is a main reason for me not considering an EV. Honestly, for my commute there is a chance something like an EV would make sense. It's consistent and I do not drive this particular car for anything but my commute.
However, I have an attached garage with a bedroom above.

Are hybrids also an issue? I know the battery packs aren't nearly the size, but EV fires get the press I don't know that I've heard of Hybrid fires.
Posted by: Inogame at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM (53oGX)
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Much less risk with hybrids IF you replace the batteries when required and stick with name-brand shit. The reality is that even non-hybrid gas cars have quite a bit of battery and high-voltage electric capacity. What causes EV fires isn't batteries themselves, but the kind of huge, insanely powerful, and over-taxed batteries in EVs. These battery packs weigh thousands of pounds.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (iFTx/)

97 The only prosecutable war crime is losing a war.
Winning makes all your actions righteous. Didn’t WWII teach you that?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:20 AM (R9BFC)

Oh really?
Posted by: Israel

Has anyone from Israel been convicted of War Crimes? The second half of the equation the nation's government has to consent to being tried and convicted. I guess Israelis could have been convicted in absentia, but Israel would never hand them over.

Posted by: Military Moron at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (JCZqz)

98 therefore help is needed from the federal bureaucracy to issue regulatory decrees that will somehow make lithium batteries safe....

*********

Echoes of COVID reverberate down through the years, as the same playbook is applied in other situations.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (uCfKO)

99 91 As Pixy said this morn: Stop F**king Monkeys!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

Insufficient. Apparently monkeys are not required ... there is quite a bit of it in the US now ... but only in the community that shall not be named ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (d8zPm)

Twas a joke about the original name. Now it's just stop butt-f**king, especially little boys and dogs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

100 In fact, you will read about how gas vehicles catch fire more often that EVs.
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Every leftard statistic is a lie. Of commission or as you noted, omission. Every one.
Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (JrF6z)

Inflation is down, hooray! They changed the way they report it, and it's still higher now than it was during Trump's entire term.

SHUT UP YOU H8TR!!!!!

Oh, and about those crime stats.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

101 98 therefore help is needed from the federal bureaucracy to issue regulatory decrees that will somehow make lithium batteries safe....

*********

Echoes of COVID reverberate down through the years, as the same playbook is applied in other situations.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (uCfKO)

I don't trust the gov't on making ANYTHING safe. I mean, they want to make guns "safe", do they not?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

102 I think SME stands for Subject Matter Expert. Not small/medium enterprise

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (rAsBA)

103 100 Inflation is down, hooray! They changed the way they report it, and it's still higher now than it was during Trump's entire term.

SHUT UP YOU H8TR!!!!!

Oh, and about those crime stats.....
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

======

Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?

You're making more now than before. A lot more. Shut up and go to a Tay Tay concert.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

104 What about dilithium crystals?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)

105 So.... besides self-worship which is a given, can you think of a single thing the Left genuinely cares about - consistently - besides power, control and perversion?
Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:27 AM (JrF6z)

Taking your money, and doing really stupid sh!t with it.

Money for nothing...

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (JCLJi)

106 especially little boys and dogs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

As long as the dog is eaten by another village, it's ok ... or was that goat ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (d8zPm)

107 100 In fact, you will read about how gas vehicles catch fire more often that EVs.
--------

Every leftard statistic is a lie. Of commission or as you noted, omission. Every one.
Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (JrF6z)

Inflation is down, hooray! They changed the way they report it, and it's still higher now than it was during Trump's entire term.

SHUT UP YOU H8TR!!!!!

Oh, and about those crime stats.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

Changing the definition lowers things immediately if you do it right.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

108 Co-worker who asked about bike: "Why have I never heard anything about this. . .?"
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There's a huge chunk of people conditioned perfectly on the lie that the media and news give them "both side of the story."

So, even if you tell them the truth, they won't believe you.
You must be lying.
Because, otherwise, they would have heard that.

Oh, and there aren't two sides to a story: There's one, the facts. There are two perceptions of those facts.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (ybgnC)

109 Is there something about parking garages that makes the vehicles more likely to explode there than if they were parked in the open air? What is the number of outside explosions compared to those in garages?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)

Fart at a baseball game vs. fart in a crowded elevator.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (lz/nK)

110 104 What about dilithium crystals?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)

=======

I can get you a supply for the right amount of gold-pressed latinum.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (GBKbO)

111 106 especially little boys and dogs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

As long as the dog is eaten by another village, it's ok ... or was that goat ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (d8zPm)

and the little boys?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

112 therefore help is needed from the federal bureaucracy to issue regulatory decrees that will somehow make lithium batteries safe....

*********

Echoes of COVID reverberate down through the years, as the same playbook is applied in other situations.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2024 11:30 AM (uCfKO)

Mask up your cars!

And six feet won't be anywhere near enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (dGCAG)

113 In fact, you will read about how gas vehicles catch fire more often that EVs.

I expect them to since they are hauling a flammable liquid and high heat from the engine.

I don't expect my f'n wristwatch to explode.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (Mud1j)

114 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.
---
And the British royals.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 16, 2024 11:34 AM (ybgnC)

115 104 What about dilithium crystals?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (v6JzV)

Perfectly safe unless you reverse the polarity.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 16, 2024 11:35 AM (VGRuw)

116 97
‘I guess Israelis could have been convicted in absentia, but Israel would never hand them over.‘

So, I’m technically correct.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:35 AM (R9BFC)

117 and the little boys?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

I'm for changing the laws so that the deterrent is sufficient. But dogs just struck me as gross.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:35 AM (d8zPm)

118 I don't trust the gov't on making ANYTHING safe. I mean, they want to make guns "safe", do they not?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 16, 2024 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

I should get a bigger gun safe.

So I can get more guns.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:35 AM (dGCAG)

119 How much are puts on Tesla stock?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2024 11:36 AM (d9fT1)

120 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dilithium_crystal

4500 Zorkmids

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:36 AM (d8zPm)

121 Is there something about parking garages that makes the vehicles more likely to explode there than if they were parked in the open air? What is the number of outside explosions compared to those in garages?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)

Fart at a baseball game vs. fart in a crowded elevator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:33 AM (lz/nK)
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Also: are they being charged when they explode? My guess is yes. Imagine if you had to fill your gas car with 10,000 gallons of nitrous-infused gas continuously for 10 hours without supervision in a hot, stale environment. I'll bet you'd get a lot more explosions there too.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

122 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.
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And the British royals.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 16, 2024 11:34 AM (ybgnC)

Yeah, but I can't call electric cars (or Taylor Swift) a bunch of pedophiles, and get away with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (dGCAG)

123 How much are puts on Tesla stock?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2024 11:36 AM (d9fT1)

__________

$20 . . . .

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (iFTx/)

124 >>> Maybe in the near future, when TayTay is installed as the Supreme Leader of the planet, and she forces everyone to drive electric cars, I have to care, but until then I couldn't possibly give less of a f**k. Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

Apparently a NEW digital version of her new album dropped today. Because her poor fans haven't already spent enough on buying twelve versions of each of her albums.

The song that is a diss track to Kim kardashian previously spelled KIM in caps in the title. The new digital one spells YE. Because she is perpetually sixteen and never emotionally grew past high school.

I found it gross that in the song, she references Kim's daughter, that she's secretly making the daughter sing a diss song about her mom. Leave kids alone! Vance handled this best when a celeb asked on TwitterX what he would do if his daughter ever needed an abortion and didn't have care: he told her very politely to leave his kids alone and STFU.

Posted by: LizLem at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (eyF4J)

125 100

‘ SHUT UP YOU H8TR!!!!! ’

Calling me hater doesn’t have much of an effect on me because I actually do hate them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (R9BFC)

126 It's Monterey Car Week! I haven't checked on YouTube to see if there have been any supercar infernos yet.

I'd like to go some year, but I'm sure I'd just end up missing out on all the best parts anyway.

Posted by: spindrift at August 16, 2024 11:38 AM (OguvZ)

127 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

128
I can't believe that the lawsuits aren't flying fast and furious.

If my car got damaged because some asshole with an EV parked next to me. Or my business or home for the same time reasons. It's lawsuit time, baby!

On the owner and the dealership and the car company.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2024 11:39 AM (eDfFs)

129 Oh, and there aren't two sides to a story: There's one, the facts. There are two perceptions of those facts.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (ybgnC)

But it's exceedingly rare that one side carries with it enough information to reveal every fact - so you need both "perceptions" to understand said facts.

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:39 AM (JrF6z)

130 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.

Rum, sodomy, and the lash figure prominently.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

131 *Day 2 of testing begins*

*receives email from dude I've never heard of demanding to know why we haven't done enough and what our plan is to keep up*

*we have 16 more days*

*also, I'm the only one who's done actual testing so far*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at August 16, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)

132 127 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

Punctuated correctly that post could break the Guiness record for double entendres.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:40 AM (d8zPm)

133 I don't expect my f'n wristwatch to explode.

Posted by: rickb223

We know.

Posted by: Mossad at August 16, 2024 11:40 AM (hCzfy)

134 ‘I guess Israelis could have been convicted in absentia, but Israel would never hand them over.‘
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So, I’m technically correct.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:35 AM (R9BFC)

One thing I'm wondering, as Euros threaten to convict Americans, including Musk and Trump, of crimes against their feelings, at what point does the U.S. government agree to hand them over?

Or do they just send operatives to kidnap them? What would a Harris administration do if they did?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)

135 $20 . . . .
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (iFTx/)

Same as in town?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:42 AM (dGCAG)

136 Old and busted: Disco Inferno

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:42 AM (L/fGl)

137 Well, I've been in both Starbucks in Barstow. And...I've been in worse.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:42 AM (W/lyH)

138 One thing I'm wondering, as Euros threaten to convict Americans, including Musk and Trump, of crimes against their feelings, at what point does the U.S. government agree to hand them over?

Or do they just send operatives to kidnap them? What would a Harris administration do if they did?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)

We're not going to need to hand them over for long. Same laws are going to be everywhere including here. In fact the first and second amendments would already be dead if the Marxists owned the SC lock stock.

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:43 AM (JrF6z)

139 What would a Harris administration do if they did?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:41 AM (dGCAG)

The phrase "a Harris administration" is post-apocalyptic by itself.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:43 AM (d8zPm)

140 137 You had to go from Washington all the way to Barstow to find coffee?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:44 AM (v6JzV)

141 Hot fires like that also damage concrete. What is that building made of, I wonder...

Posted by: nraendowment at August 16, 2024 11:44 AM (WuF7C)

142 It's Monterey Car Week! I haven't checked on YouTube to see if there have been any supercar infernos yet.

I'd like to go some year, but I'm sure I'd just end up missing out on all the best parts anyway.
Posted by: spindrift at August 16, 2024 11:38 AM (OguvZ)
____

A few supercar announcements are scheduled, including the new hybrid Huracan replacement, but no word on any infernos yet. I assume that hidden behind every glossy display stand and demo is an EV fire truck read to put out the first sign of a spark. Can't have a bunch of rich dudes getting burned or killed, can we?

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

143 You had to go from Washington all the way to Barstow to find coffee?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:44 AM (v6JzV)

Wouldn't do to get stuck in Bakersfield...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:45 AM (lz/nK)

144 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.

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EVs are the Kardashians of today!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (L/fGl)

145 A peculiar thing I realized this morning when looking up the dates of the 1968 Dem Convention. This year and 1968 have the same calendar. In '68 the convention was very recent, and people were still talking about the violence they'd seen on the "news," when I started school that fall. We always began on the Thursday before Labor Day, and in '68 that was 8/29. Same this year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (J2vNu)

146 114 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.
---
And the British royals.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Don't forget about me!!

Posted by: Obama's Tan Suit, driving Republicans crazy!!! at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (JCZqz)

147 You forgot to mention racist.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

Okay, boomer, I think you mean transphobic. Racist is a much more fraught word now that we've decided that it's okay to discriminate against whites and pale Jews. -- Your DNC

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (nR2nR)

148 On the owner and the dealership and the car company.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2024 11:39 AM (eDfFs)

And the owner of the parking lot for allowing a known fire hazard!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (d9fT1)

149 Lith-ion EVs will mark the return of carriage houses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (9xzST)

150 The song that is a diss track to Kim kardashian previously spelled KIM in caps in the title. The new digital one spells YE. Because she is perpetually sixteen and never emotionally grew past high school.

I found it gross that in the song, she references Kim's daughter, that she's secretly making the daughter sing a diss song about her mom. Leave kids alone! Vance handled this best when a celeb asked on TwitterX what he would do if his daughter ever needed an abortion and didn't have care: he told her very politely to leave his kids alone and STFU.
Posted by: LizLem at August 16, 2024 11:37 AM (eyF4J)

What I find interesting (admittedly, just from my perspective, since I'm so tuned out to this stuff) is how some of these celebs are thrust into the spotlight, and it's impossible to ignore them, and others seem to suddenly disappear.

I have no clue what's happening with Kanye, whereas just over a year ago, he was almost as high on the celeb list as anybody.

Same with the aforementioned royals. I still think there's something squirrelly about what happened with Kate, but we're not going to ever get the truth about that sort of thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (dGCAG)

151 You had to go from Washington all the way to Barstow to find coffee?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:44 AM (v6JzV)

Actually I worked for a year out at the National Training Center. Lived in Barstow for most of it.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (W/lyH)

152 Old and busted: Disco Inferno
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024

***
"Saaa-tis-faction
Came in a chain reaction . . ."

Posted by: The Trampps at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)

153 Because she is perpetually sixteen and never emotionally grew past high school.

she knows her audience

Posted by: brak at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (NGHTx)

154 75 Odds Greta's parents would have made her trans if she had been born 5 years later? I'm thinking 75%.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 16, 2024 11:24 AM (JCZqz)

Calling it now: She'll be trans in five years because she'll be fading into obscurity.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (99eI0)

155 It doesn’t matter what brand of battery is in the EV, what matters is that it’s a lithium ion EV battery, which by nature is prone to runaway thermal fires.
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Yes and no. Lithium batteries do present some inherent risk and runaway, when it happens, is disastrous and extremely hard to contain.

Manufacturing, design and implementation matter a *lot* in lithium cells. Good cells, good battery management, good design and good construction mitigate a whole lot of the risks. It doesn't reduce the risks to zero, but nothing ever does or will.

A well-engineered pack full of Samsung or Panasonic or other real, good cells with solid management electronics and well-designed fuses reduce a lot of these risks to manageable levels. Shitty construction and engineering and marginal cells and poor management with inadequate interlocks and fuses are a disaster.

The latter come from Red China. Chinese EVs catch fire *much* more often than those from reputable countries and manufacturers. Just embargoing packs, cells and management electronics from the mainland would go a long way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)

156 134
‘ What would a Harris administration do if they did?’

I’m not thinking in terms of that abominable outcome in which everyone’s rights become null and void.

I don’t know what Trump would do but I would start by sending the would be tough guys images from our satellites of their activities that they thought were not being surveilled. And a video of a sniper round exploding a watermelon in case they are too stupid to reach the right conclusion.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (R9BFC)

157 Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to.

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EVs are the Kardashians of today!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:46 AM (L/fGl)

By this time next year they'll be Duck Dynasty.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

158 Who is Taylor Swift?

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

159 Today is National Airborne Day!!!

Airborne!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (W/lyH)

160 Or do they just send operatives to kidnap them? What would a Harris administration do if they did?

they would ignore it. it's not like they did something like flying with weed into russia -- that's who is worth fighting for

Posted by: brak at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (NGHTx)

161 Do they make sybians?

Posted by: Stateless at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (jvJvP)

162 Side note: I notice a lot of people who undergo sex change operations in their teens and early 20s turned out to be autistic. Which makes sense in a sick way. "Oh, you're confused about the world? I know what the answer is!"

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:49 AM (99eI0)

163 EV only parking lots

Invest now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 16, 2024 11:49 AM (9xzST)

164 Well, I've been in both Starbucks in Barstow. And...I've been in worse.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024

***
Tip: Don't compliment any of the staff, even if they would deserve it in normal times. It'll get you talked about.

Posted by: The Trampps at August 16, 2024 11:49 AM (J2vNu)

165 I don’t know what Trump would do but I would start by sending the would be tough guys images from our satellites of their activities that they thought were not being surveilled. And a video of a sniper round exploding a watermelon in case they are too stupid to reach the right conclusion.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (R9BFC)

That would be fine by me. At the same time, tell Europe to go F itself, we're pulling out all military, and posting our troops on our own borders.

Leave us alone, and we'll leave you alone. Good luck!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

166 Old and busted: Disco Inferno
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:42 AM (L/fGl)

probably better than a disco demolition....

-- chicago white sox

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 16, 2024 11:50 AM (v6XNT)

167
EVs are the Hiroshimas of Exploding Cigars.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2024 11:50 AM (eDfFs)

168 A well-engineered pack full of Samsung or Panasonic or other real, good cells with solid management electronics and well-designed fuses reduce a lot of these risks to manageable levels. Shitty construction and engineering and marginal cells and poor management with inadequate interlocks and fuses are a disaster.

The latter come from Red China. Chinese EVs catch fire *much* more often than those from reputable countries and manufacturers. Just embargoing packs, cells and management electronics from the mainland would go a long way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)
____

Agree and see my similar post above. I made the additional comment that I suspect a lot of these fires are caused by shitty replacement batteries. But high-quality original batteries are so expensive that a big market for cheapo shit was inevitable, regardless of risk.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:50 AM (iFTx/)

169 "Electric cars are like Taylor Swift. I really don't care about them, I have no interest in them, but everybody won't stop talking about them, so inevitably I hear way more about them than I care to."

Average and boring.

Posted by: fd at August 16, 2024 11:50 AM (vFG9F)

170 The piece also notes that in 2023, in New York City alone, there were 268 fires started by lithium ion batteries on various transportation devices, resulting in 18 deaths and 150 injuries. Of course, the federal government can no more mandate that lithium ion batteries stop combusting than it can mandate that straw be spun into gold.
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But it *can* mandate industrial underwriting to put them on the market. Only validated designs with adequate construction can sell. This is what UL and MET and TUV are *for.* Yes, this introduces market friction and makes the market not fully open, and that is inefficient. But it is less inefficient than a ban, and there is no reason to ban something plenty of people want. Electric bikes and scooters are hugely popular, especially in urban settings and I see no reason to take that choice away for a manageable problem.

But shitty, dangerous and largely Chinese batteries/battery systems blowing up all the time is a serious problem. That serious problem is fixable - both in consumer confidence and in liability and market safety - through most of the same mechanisms we've had for electrical equipment since the 19th century.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (HnUIn)

171 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Well, they were under way so it wasn't gay.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (Mud1j)

172 Who is Taylor Swift?
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

Your mom.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

173 Now I'm gonna worry that somebody in a Tesla wil have his car spontaneously combust on the bridge at rush hour . . . right in front of my car.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)

174 EVs are much heavier than IC vehicles, 3 or 4 times the weight, or so I've read.
Every parking structure will need reinforcement, every bridge, every elevated road.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (MeG8a)

175 Fun WWII facts! M4 Sherman tanks were known as Ronsons because Ronson lighters were advertised as lights first every time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

176 "Oh, you're confused about the world? I know what the answer is!"

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:49 AM (99eI0)

The doctors lie about the projected outcome. I saw an interview a couple of days on youtube (and the subject was 26 according to the comments).

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (d8zPm)

177 The fire on Aug. 1, which appeared to start spontaneously in a Mercedes-Benz EV

--

hahaha

No, the fire didn't just appear because lightning hit a mud puddle. It appeared because something was broken *in a new system on a new vehicle*

Imagine how rejected EVs would be if we had actual reporting on the topic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (1gtB5)

178 Old and busted: Disco Inferno
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 11:42 AM (L/fGl)
________

"Fuck you! The boogie is starting to explode, yo!"

-- The Trammps

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

179 People like Edison and Tesla, and now Elon, pushing humanity forward with an unceasing, ever focused will, are rare creatures.

I've had a very morbid thought, that maybe the person that would have invented energy to help make electric vehicle batteries safe, cheap, reliable did exist, but was aborted. But I also think that if God wants something to be, he'll make it be. If he wants that tech in our lives, he will inspire one of his children to make it. Like how the American who invented TV was inspired by the rows of harvested crops he saw on his farm. So who knows.

Posted by: LizLem at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (Eng1Z)

180 165
‘ we're pulling out all military, and posting our troops on our own borders. ’

Ha! If the other European PTB thought we’d really do that they’d kill the ‘tough guys’ themselves after shitting their pants.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (R9BFC)

181 If Harris wins she will make Jack Smith AG and Musk will be jailed.

Along with other high profile opponents.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (8IQBN)

182 There is no Lith-ion power pack with enough ooommppff for the Empress' sybian. Nuclear or bust.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (9xzST)

183 A few supercar announcements are scheduled, including the new hybrid Huracan replacement, but no word on any infernos yet. I assume that hidden behind every glossy display stand and demo is an EV fire truck read to put out the first sign of a spark. Can't have a bunch of rich dudes getting burned or killed, can we?
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

nah, even money those cars don't have actual batteries in them. maybe one that's only big enough to turn on lights and a dashboard, but i'm guessing they only have the battery pack shells, not actual batteries...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (v6XNT)

184 Or do they just send operatives to kidnap them? What would a Harris administration do if they did?
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they would ignore it. it's not like they did something like flying with weed into russia -- that's who is worth fighting for
Posted by: brak at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (NGHTx)

Speaking of men competing against the gals in sports, the Algerian boxer is, I think, seeking criminal charges against Musk, Trump, and JK Rowling.

For mean tweets, or whatever.

As I said yesterday, whatever his/her sex actually is, he/she sure doesn't fight like a girl.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (dGCAG)

185 Lithium bomb is competitive against nukes.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 16, 2024 11:53 AM (VtQP8)

186 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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Of course it was. Almost no one cares about watching a man in a sex video, and the chances are good that no one would even pay attention to the male.

The woman with unique and easily identifiable tattoos?

Uh-oh.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (1gtB5)

187 A house in the town just South of here burned down a couple of days ago. "The homeowner said she suspects that a lithium battery charging in her golf cart may have triggered the blaze".

Posted by: fd at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (vFG9F)

188 EVs are much heavier than IC vehicles, 3 or 4 times the weight, or so I've read.
Every parking structure will need reinforcement, every bridge, every elevated road.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (MeG8a)
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Parking structures, yes. Elevated highways, maybe. Bridges, probably not.

EVs are heavier than gas or diesel cars, but they're nothing compared to semis and heavy trucks. Bridges and elevated highways are designed - usually, depending on route - for heavy truck traffic. EVs aren't going to break the design assumptions. Parking structures, however, are another story entirely. "EVs: GROUND LEVEL ONLY" will likely become a common sign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (HnUIn)

189 171 I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.

Did they say it involved a human?

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (99eI0)

190 Ford stops shipment of 2024 Lightnings due to unspecified issue

Yeah, they suck is one of the unspecified issues.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (/U5Yz)

191 I work for an insurance company. I had an opportunity to ask if our underwriting position on EVs had changed with the mounting number of battery fires -- as they involved both the vehicle owner and even bystanders' property (including parking structures). It was a zoom call, so my question, although thumbed-up by several others, never ended up being answered in the forum.

At some point, the EV manufacturers aren't going to be allowed to punt on liability, and the insurers will stop footing the ever-increasing bill of these time bombs.

Posted by: red speck at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (0Id0S)

192 "EVs are much heavier than IC vehicles, 3 or 4 times the weight, or so I've read."

Not that much. Maybe up to 50% more than a comparable sized ICE vehicle.

Posted by: fd at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (vFG9F)

193 EVs are much heavier than IC vehicles, 3 or 4 times the weight, or so I've read.
Every parking structure will need reinforcement, every bridge, every elevated road.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 16, 2024 11:52 AM (MeG8a)

So invest now in pothole futures!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (dGCAG)

194 Who is Taylor Swift?
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

Your mom.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

Some guys would pay good money for that. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (JrF6z)

195 So invest now in pothole futures!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (dGCAG)
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Market's saturated.

Posted by: New York State Highways at August 16, 2024 11:56 AM (HnUIn)

196 IIRC it's illegal for many EVs to cross some bridges (Brooklyn?) because they're over the weight limit.

No one enforces it, of course. Because what could go wrong?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 16, 2024 11:56 AM (1gtB5)

197 176 The doctors lie about the projected outcome.

Or they gloss over it. "Sure there are risks but they are small and happen to other people."

And any doctor who did not agree to go along with the surgery would be getting their license revoked.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:56 AM (99eI0)

198 But shitty, dangerous and largely Chinese batteries/battery systems blowing up all the time is a serious problem. That serious problem is fixable - both in consumer confidence and in liability and market safety - through most of the same mechanisms we've had for electrical equipment since the 19th century.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

I still think EV fires have a lot to do with shock and road vibrations. If tool batteries caught fire like EV's do, they'd have went back to corded tools.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (Mud1j)

199 I was stuck in traffic on the bay bridge recently.
2/3rds of the cars around me were EVs.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (MeG8a)

200 Today is National Airborne Day!!!

Airborne!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (W/lyH)

Hooah to my baby brother!!

but he would say, don't "Hooah me, bitch!"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (xPJvm)

201 Captain of nuclear sub with "Trident Two doomsday weapons" discharged from British Navy for filming sex tape

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Seems kind of harsh for just filming it. Now if he was the one being filmed...

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (W/lyH)

202 So invest now in pothole futures!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (dGCAG)
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Market's saturated.

I've heard it's cratering.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (xCA6C)

203 194

‘ Some guys would pay good money for that. Or so I've heard.’

A house dress full of broomsticks would be cheaper.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (R9BFC)

204 "EVs: GROUND LEVEL ONLY" will likely become a common sign.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (HnUIn)

And all the poor bastards who park their ICE cars on the upper levels are fucked when the EV's on the ground floor go up in flames.

You know what worries me? Ferry boats. What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (lz/nK)

205 Tesla S is about 4600 lbs. Nissan Maxima is about 3300 lbs.

Posted by: fd at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (vFG9F)

206 You know what worries me? Ferry boats. What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (lz/nK)

Are these otter-infested waters? Any penguin sightings?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (KbCG3)

207 A coworker recently ran over a chunk of asphalt in her Tesla. She managed to limp home, but called her husband to tell him they would have to take the car in to get fixed, as a few electronic systems were glitching. Minutes later, the husband called her back, panicked. Told her to get the car away from the house -- on the orders of the worried Tesla service tech.

Lawsuits are a-comin' once these battery packs start aging. What a shitshow.

Posted by: red speck at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (0Id0S)

208 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

209 This all-American bikini brunette prefers gas cars - gas cars with big, throaty V8 engines that make her shake (and not just from the engine) when they're opened up:
http://tiny.cc/jr4hzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)

210 Who is Taylor Swift?
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

Your mom.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

Some guys would pay good money for that. Or so I've heard.
Posted by: ... at August 16, 2024 11:55 AM (JrF6z)

As long as she doesn't use her mouth to speak or sing, I would.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (dGCAG)

211 Is this a bust?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (1FWWQ)

212 I'm shocked the Maxima is still that light.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (1gtB5)

213 You know what worries me? Ferry boats. What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (lz/nK)
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It probably sinks.

There has been at least one EV fire on an oceangoing transport vessel. It was a catastrophe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)

214
Are hybrids also an issue? I know the battery packs aren't nearly the size, but EV fires get the press I don't know that I've heard of Hybrid fires.

Posted by: Inogame at August 16, 2024 11:22 AM

I was at a Toyota dealership where they had a display with 192 batteries to show how much material was required for the hybrid battery as opposed to a complete EV battery. So probably 1/192nd the risk.

I have a suspicion that high temperatures where the cars are parked contributes some level of risk. Batteries are real fussy about high and low temperatures.

I have a 50 amp battery for my battery powered lawn mower. If it's still warm after using the circuitry in the charger prevents it from charging until it gets back down to around 75 degrees. After using the battery it is noticeably hot - over 100 degrees.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 16, 2024 12:00 PM (RKVpM)

215 I notice it doesn’t say whether a girl was involved.

Did they say it involved a human?
Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:54 AM (99eI0)

"I said I wanted to be in a can of Starkest Tuna.

I didn't say I wanted to be fucked in the can.

It was horrible! Just horrible!!!"

*sobs*

Posted by: Charley the Tuna Crying and Quivering in a Corner at August 16, 2024 12:00 PM (eDfFs)

216 Today is National Airborne Day!!!

Airborne!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 11:48 AM (W/lyH)

Hooah to my baby brother!!

but he would say, don't "Hooah me, bitch!"
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 16, 2024 11:57 AM (xPJvm)
***

ASt least he didn't say "Filthy Leg!"
(For those who do not understand, the Army has two types of soldiers: Those who have graduated Airborne School and wear the wings of a Parachutist; and those who have not and who are referred to as Filthy Legs, as they have to walk everywhere instead of flying and jumping.)

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 12:00 PM (W/lyH)

217 Ferry boats?

Probably like those gutted freighters AoP but with a higher body count.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 16, 2024 12:01 PM (9xzST)

218 Is this a bust?
Posted by: Christina Hendricks

Yes. Yes ma'am it is. A large, glorious, magnificent bust.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 12:01 PM (Mud1j)

219 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

Looks like smoke from a bush fire...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:01 PM (lz/nK)

220 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

Classy!

Gotta admit the GOP seems to have a monopoly on CILFs!

The Dems have... who, AOC? She was doable a decade or so ago, but isn't aging well.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (dGCAG)

221 209 This all-American bikini brunette prefers gas cars - gas cars with big, throaty V8 engines that make her shake (and not just from the engine) when they're opened up:
http://tiny.cc/jr4hzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She has some large displacement.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (/U5Yz)

222 hahaha, soon we'll hear demands for air conditioned EV parking to save electricity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when women's jobs were meaningful and valuable? at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (1gtB5)

223 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

***

Doesn't care about good taste either...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (1FWWQ)

224
Morning, all.

Jeez. It's so crazy that genius Elon Musk is behind this dumpster fire. Dude's gonna go down in history for saving America and heading up one of the biggest industrial fails since ... well, I bet "Tesla" will become a word like "Edsel" or "Titanic."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (lCaJd)

225 EVs do weigh more than ICE cars, but not that much more.

The heaviest Tesla weighs about the same as a big SUV.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (d9fT1)

226 Having been involved with studies on EV focused on tires, the weight is an issue. Specialty tires are needed for the weight, and tire wear is 3 to 4 times faster. One Tesla owner bragged that he got 15,000 miles from one set of tires.

Commercially, that is not economically feasible for a transport company, not to mention that on an electric truck a quarter of the load is taken up by batteries instead of paying freight, and the range is less than half of an ICE.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (lTGtQ)

227 About 3 years ago we had a new hire just out of college kid buy a new Tesla Y (small SUV), man he was proud of that car and let everyone know it. Less than two weeks in he has a very mild front ender with a carload of 'newcomers' that ran a red light...all jumped out and fled.

The wreck was so mild his airbags didn't pop and both front doors were not impacted.

It was totaled because Tesla had no replacement parts available. $54k. He got an F150 to replace it.

Posted by: DanMan at August 16, 2024 12:03 PM (8uzBS)

228 I'll take "gas cars with big, throaty V8 engines".

That's hot.

You can keep the girl at the link.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 16, 2024 12:03 PM (JCLJi)

229 204
‘ Ferry boats. What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?’
I know how to put out the fire but saving the ferry is out of reach.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 16, 2024 12:04 PM (R9BFC)

230 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

Looks like smoke from a bush fire...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:01 PM (lz/nK)

***

Well it IS bush adjacent so...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:04 PM (1FWWQ)

231 Otter status: Culled.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 16, 2024 11:02 AM

Otter genocide? What did they ever do to you?

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:04 PM (ewjUl)

232 What's the latest on the Space Edsel?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 16, 2024 12:04 PM (9xzST)

233 http://tiny.cc/jr4hzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)

Holy hell, she's cute!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 16, 2024 12:04 PM (xPJvm)

234 You know what worries me? Ferry boats. What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 11:58 AM (lz/nK)
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It probably sinks.

There has been at least one EV fire on an oceangoing transport vessel. It was a catastrophe.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)
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My racing buddy's exotic Porsche supercar was on that boat. The boat burned for days, they could do nothing to stop it besides wait for it to sink (which it did). 100% total loss. Every item on the boat was lost or destroyed. The cargo's insurers jumped off of buildings when they heard about this.

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

235 This all-American bikini brunette prefers gas cars - gas cars with big, throaty V8 engines that make her shake (and not just from the engine) when they're opened up:
http://tiny.cc/jr4hzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She ain't wrong.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 16, 2024 12:05 PM (ftFVW)

236 Jeez. It's so crazy that genius Elon Musk is behind this dumpster fire. Dude's gonna go down in history for saving America and heading up one of the biggest industrial fails since ... well, I bet "Tesla" will become a word like "Edsel" or "Titanic."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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The thing to keep in mind is that this ISN'T a failure for him. This is wildly successful. This is free testing, free R&D, etc. People are buying these and driving them in varied environments while their behavior and conditions are tracked, the incidents are tracked and investigated, etc.

Because his goal is to become emperor of Mars. That's not a joke. And I'll say I admire the heck out of him more than maybe anyone else in recent memory for pursuing that lofty goal. And everything he's doing with EVs and rockets and drilling huge holes in the earth and satellite internet etc is in pursuit of his goal to be emperor of Mars.

All of this that's happening here is design and testing. And people are paying money to do it for him. It's utterly brilliant.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (5IIoe)

237 Morning Joe
@Morning_Joe
"This is long overdue. People are tired of just accepting higher prices."

— @SenBobCasey on combating price gouging. VP Harris plans to propose the first-ever federal ban on 'corporate price-gouging in the food and grocery industries,' her campaign announced late Wednesday.

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Who you gonna believe? Reality or Killer Joe AND Bob Casey?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (L/fGl)

238 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM

Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (ewjUl)

239 New: Kamala on C'Ville

Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

240 It probably sinks.

There has been at least one EV fire on an oceangoing transport vessel. It was a catastrophe.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)

Well, car ferries have firefighting equipment, and an unlimited supply of water, but if I were setting policy, EV users would have to get reservations, and would be assigned spots closest to the bow and stern of the vessel, so if they caught fire, they could be pushed overboard. And if one or two non-burning EV's have to be jettisoned before the one fire gets it, tough shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (lz/nK)

241 What do you do if an EV spontaneously combusts on the car deck of a ferry boat?’

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A torpedo amidships will take care of the fire.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

242 ASt least he didn't say "Filthy Leg!"
(For those who do not understand, the Army has two types of soldiers: Those who have graduated Airborne School and wear the wings of a Parachutist; and those who have not and who are referred to as Filthy Legs, as they have to walk everywhere instead of flying and jumping.)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 12:00 PM (W/lyH)

Lots of cadences start with "Ya dirty nasty legs..."

One time in AIT, one of the DS's got us into formation, ordered us into position, and started:

Ya dirty nasty legs, ate all the cake,
Left none for Drill Sgt.
So now I'm gonna smoke ya,
One, two, three, one, two, three.

It's real hard to do pushups when you're laughing your arse off.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (dGCAG)

243 Gross Vehicle Weight
Tesla model 3 -- 4742 lbs*
Camry (gas) ---- 4404 lbs*

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Cus5s)

244 Lauren Boebert's tummy tat does not care about electric vehicles.

https://tinyurl.com/y3eyj8xh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 11:59 AM (/U5Yz)

***

Doesn't care about good taste either...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:02 PM (1FWWQ)
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"Neither did I"

-- Kumswala Harris

Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (iFTx/)

245 232 What's the latest on the Space Edsel?
Posted by: Anna Puma

It's still a worthless broken appendage on the ISS. Now they are concerned when they jettison the clunker it might destroy one of the two access ports.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 12:07 PM (/U5Yz)

246 My racing buddy's exotic Porsche supercar was on that boat. The boat burned for days, they could do nothing to stop it besides wait for it to sink (which it did). 100% total loss. Every item on the boat was lost or destroyed. The cargo's insurers jumped off of buildings when they heard about this.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 12:05 PM

All my guns too.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:07 PM (ewjUl)

247 My racing buddy's exotic Porsche supercar was on that boat. The boat burned for days, they could do nothing to stop it besides wait for it to sink (which it did). 100% total loss. Every item on the boat was lost or destroyed. The cargo's insurers jumped off of buildings when they heard about this.
Posted by: Doctor Elric Blade, Esq. at August 16, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
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I doubt they leapt from buildings, but I bet that "ship's manifest contains an EV" is going to result in wildly higher premiums, and likely higher concentrations of EVs on ships as a result - and those routes will have very high premiums or the shippers and ship owners will run them at a higher price without insurance (e.g., self-insuring the ship, with the cargo uncovered).

Or, if EVs really are here to stay, there will be special compartments that are designed to burn for a week or more without spreading to the rest of the cargo and the vessel itself.

Asbestos is going to be made great again...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 12:07 PM (HnUIn)

248 There we are:

"Tesla’s Model X, the company’s first all-electric SUV, avoids issues with fuel economy (by not using any), but the falcon-winged ride has does have some pitfalls for drivers living in the New York City area. As it turns out, the Model X is one of eight cars that exceed the maximum weight limit for the Brooklyn Bridge, making it illegal to drive across the bridge in one of those vehicles."

https://tinyurl.com/239yqcvz

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:07 PM (5IIoe)

249 Did someone say throaty?

*cackle*

Posted by: Kammie from Oakland at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (Y1sOo)

250 Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (ewjUl)

***

Like putting bumper stickers on a Bentley

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (1FWWQ)

251 probably should have used curb weight

Tesla -- 3862.0 lbs*

Camry -- 3310.0 lbs*

I'm thinking my old camry was closer to 2000, not sure though.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (Cus5s)

252 Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (ewjUl)
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What makes an apartment building look like a tenement?

Graffiti.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (HnUIn)

253 239 New: Kamala on C'Ville
Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

I know Disney would sue anyone who tried to post it anywhere, but I cannot believe we have not yet gotten a Kamala DeVille parody song yet.

I mean, it's right there.

Come on!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (dGCAG)

254 This is a great piece.
I can't wait to share it with some of lefty EV fans.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 16, 2024 12:09 PM (NpAcC)

255 Musk and Theil are not on "our team". They are allies of the moment, kinda.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 16, 2024 12:09 PM (A2E7p)

256 Who gets to define 'price gouging'? Them?
Me?

Wait, I think I know the answer.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 16, 2024 12:09 PM (VW9OP)

257 I was in Airborne School in August of 1990. Yeah. Things got miiiiighty interesting quickly.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 16, 2024 12:10 PM (KAi1n)

258 I'm thinking my old camry was closer to 2000, not sure though.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2024 12:08 PM (Cus5s)
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Cars have gotten heavier. Safety equipment and safer design doesn't come without a weight premium. New cars are insanely safe nowadays, but they're *much* heavier.

It's truly amazing that fuel economy has kept pace or even advanced given the weight gain. Engine designers have done a sensational job. Gasoline engine technology has come a long, long, long way since the sixties.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 12:10 PM (HnUIn)

259 Gross Vehicle Weight
Tesla model 3 -- 4742 lbs*
Camry (gas) ---- 4404 lbs*
Posted by: illiniwek

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I think the Model 3 is closer to a Corolla. 3000lbs or so.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:10 PM (5IIoe)

260 Or, if EVs really are here to stay, there will be special compartments that are designed to burn for a week or more without spreading to the rest of the cargo and the vessel itself.

Asbestos is going to be made great again...

Posted by: Joe Mannix

Airtight sealed compartments with heavy insulation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 16, 2024 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

261 Having been involved with studies on EV focused on tires, the weight is an issue. Specialty tires are needed for the weight, and tire wear is 3 to 4 times faster. One Tesla owner bragged that he got 15,000 miles from one set of tires.

Commercially, that is not economically feasible for a transport company, not to mention that on an electric truck a quarter of the load is taken up by batteries instead of paying freight, and the range is less than half of an ICE.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

It's a write off ,Jerry. They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at August 16, 2024 12:10 PM (Mud1j)

262 Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Because they're not doing it for you.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 16, 2024 12:11 PM (KAi1n)

263 Why do women do this to their bodies?

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Trauma. I'd imagine almost always. Find out what they were going through in their lives at the moment and you'll find your answer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:11 PM (5IIoe)

264 Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 16, 2024 12:06 PM (ewjUl)

Tats are bad enough, but she's what... 4' 9"?

You don't look right with the fake bobs, hon.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:11 PM (dGCAG)

265 I am not a big fan of tats, but Lauren Boebert is cute, and her tat can be concealed by normal modest attire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:12 PM (lz/nK)

266 Whenever I post about EV fires, I receive correspondence pointing out that gasoline powered cars also sometimes catch fire when involved in wrecks.
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A crucial distinction: EVs sometimes catch fire spontaneously, no wreck needed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 16, 2024 12:12 PM (4jWDH)

267 "I think the Model 3 is closer to a Corolla. 3000lbs or so."

idk, I just saw an article comparing that Tesla 3 to Camry, so they seemed to think it was more like a Camry.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2024 12:12 PM (Cus5s)

268 I am not a big fan of tats, but Lauren Boebert is cute, and her tat can be concealed by normal modest attire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:12 PM (lz/nK)

***

Who wants to see her in attire...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:13 PM (1FWWQ)

269 Why do women do this to their bodies? It totally ruins it for me. To each their own, but. Yuck.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Because they're not doing it for you.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 16, 2024 12:11 PM (KAi1n)

You're right, whole generations of females have been brainwashed to believe their bodies aren't good enough. Or that rolls of fat are beautiful.

Oh, and vacuuming their children out of their guts is empowering.

Pointing out the insanity of the culture isn't about who is or isn't a fuddy dud. Some things are just wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:14 PM (dGCAG)

270 Who wants to see her in attire...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:13 PM (1FWWQ)

If she were in my tire, I'd not be complaining.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2024 12:14 PM (lz/nK)

271 "I think the Model 3 is closer to a Corolla. 3000lbs or so."

idk, I just saw an article comparing that Tesla 3 to Camry, so they seemed to think it was more like a Camry.
Posted by: illiniwek

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Yes, I suspect they're certainly trying to because it makes the prices more palatable to stack a $40K+ Camry against a stripper Model 3, but size wise I'm fairly certain the 3 is closer to a $26K Corolla.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:15 PM (5IIoe)

272 You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord. - Leviticus 19:28

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 16, 2024 12:15 PM (/U5Yz)

273 The Russians caused the Holodomor. Kamala will also cause a man-made famine.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 16, 2024 12:09 PM (xCA6C)

Stalin was Georgian. I don't blame all the Georgians for it, why blame the Russians?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 16, 2024 12:15 PM (nR2nR)

274 hahaha, "not doing it for you" is a good observation, too, but most women won't realize the ramifications of that until later.

What do you mean traditional men don't like masculine tattoos? All the magazines and movie stars told me they did!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:16 PM (5IIoe)

275 >>> I know Disney would sue anyone who tried to post it anywhere, but I cannot believe we have not yet gotten a Kamala DeVille parody song yet.

First off, that is genius. I want it.

Second, any parody would clearly fall under legal laws that allow it. But Disney is currently trying to dismiss that one wrongful death suit at their park by claiming the victim signed a waiver when they got Disney+. So we are not dealing with the brightest legal minds here.

Posted by: LizLem at August 16, 2024 12:17 PM (Eng1Z)

276 Who wants to see her in attire...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 16, 2024 12:13 PM (1FWWQ)

Well, she will let you honk her melons in a darkened theater, while she's still fully dressed.

So that would be fun.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:17 PM (dGCAG)

277 The degenerates upstairs didn't call it.

So NOOD KAMALA

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 16, 2024 12:17 PM (HnUIn)

278 First off, that is genius. I want it.

Second, any parody would clearly fall under legal laws that allow it. But Disney is currently trying to dismiss that one wrongful death suit at their park by claiming the victim signed a waiver when they got Disney+. So we are not dealing with the brightest legal minds here.
Posted by: LizLem at August 16, 2024 12:17 PM (Eng1Z)

You'd have to really work to change the lyrics, to not give them any room to sue, but the problem is, the lyrics as they are would be damn close to perfect already.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024 12:18 PM (dGCAG)

279 BTW, got some bloodwork results back today. My ferritin level is still low at 23 but up from 20 last year. Range for males is 38-380. However, my CBC is all within range, including MPV which was sliiightly elevated last year. I assume my low ferritin is from taking turmeric and drinking green tea, both of which are iron chelators. I just finished up an appellate reply brief and motion to augment the record, and my regular cannabis club (aka, pot store) is open after being burgled last week, so happy Friday evening!

Posted by: SFGoth at August 16, 2024 12:19 PM (KAi1n)

280 Yep, Corolla is 15.2 feet, Model 3 is 15.5, Camry is 16.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember when womens jobs were genuinely important? at August 16, 2024 12:19 PM (5IIoe)

281
They are not EVs.

They are Incipient Road Guano (IRGs), whose waste leavings after they have burned themselves out resemble massive piles on the roadway of guano dropped from a great height.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 16, 2024 12:22 PM (xG4kz)

282 They are not EVs.

They are Incipient Road Guano (IRGs), whose waste leavings after they have burned themselves out resemble massive piles on the roadway of guano dropped from a great height.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

They are also portable speed bumps, once they burn.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 16, 2024 12:25 PM (VNX3d)

283 Now I have nothing but utter contempt for her. She can go live in the wilds of Sweden and not have human contact in order to find peace.

Greta is a multi millionaire who has her own yacht. What, did you think she was wearing sack cloths and going about yelling "Bring out your dead"?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 16, 2024 12:27 PM (Da7Vv)

284 Tats are bad enough, but she's what... 4' 9"?

You don't look right with the fake bobs, hon.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2024

***
How dare you!

Posted by: Caty Cole, Scots Nude Model at August 16, 2024 12:31 PM (J2vNu)

285 The irony is that people buy EVs to show their virtue in fighting global warming.

Then their cars catch fire, thereby generating a hell of a lot of warming.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 16, 2024 12:41 PM (4jWDH)

286 As long as the dog is eaten by another village, it's ok ... or was that goat ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 16, 2024 11:32 AM (d8zPm)

and the little boys?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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that would be short long pig.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at August 16, 2024 12:44 PM (JNTt1)

287 Calling it now: She'll be trans in five years because she'll be fading into obscurity.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 16, 2024 11:47 AM (99eI0)

Whatever happened to that petulant puke David Hogg?

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 16, 2024 01:02 PM (MYecY)

288 Curious. Are Lithium batteries being made differently nowadays. I have computers and other devices from years ago that I know are using lithium batteries but they're not exploding.

Posted by: jdm at August 16, 2024 01:19 PM (msrHA)

289 ASt least he didn't say "Filthy Leg!"
(For those who do not understand, the Army has two types of soldiers: Those who have graduated Airborne School and wear the wings of a Parachutist; and those who have not and who are referred to as Filthy Legs, as they have to walk everywhere instead of flying and jumping.)

Posted by: Diogenes at August 16, 2024 12:00 PM (W/lyH)

Not to be picky but it's actually "Dirty, filthy, stinking Leg".

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! Upon Us. at August 16, 2024 01:48 PM (z4+bR)

290 That Edmunds article is highly flawed. They went to car dealers and asked what people got from a trade-in. What do car dealers sell? Mostly, combustion cars. So half of all the people who went to a dealer got the kind of car the dealer had a lot of.

If you count how many people traded in a Tesla for another Tesla or a Rivian or any other EV that isn't sold at a dealer, you get a very different result.

https://insideevs.com/news/728890/tesla-trade-ins-2024-data/

Posted by: mr_jack at August 16, 2024 03:27 PM (LNPSJ)

291 Park some EV,s under t he UN plug them in and recharge them then wait

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