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The Fall Of Boeing Is Complete: Imagine How Bad They Must Be To Be Called Out By NASA!
An honest appraisal of the many departments of the federal government would be hard-pressed to find an efficient and competent one in the sea of catastrophically wasteful and downright damaging divisions.
Okay...I can think of one. The United States Mint and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing does a pretty good job of producing our coins and bills. Far too many, but that's a different issue. And they are probably pathetically inefficient, but at least the end result is of good quality. But in the main, the federal government is a pathetic collection of career apparatchiks, layabouts, no-nothings, no-shows, thieves, and the flat-out laziest people in the country. So when they criticize one of their biggest contractors, you know something is up! NASA Inspector General Report Criticizes Boeing's Quality ControlThe report pointed to 71 “Corrective Action Requests”(CARs) issued by the Defense Contract Management Agency (DCMA) at Michoud between 2021 and 2023 to address “deficiencies in quality.” NASA’s OIG said this is a “high number of CARs for a space flight system at this stage in development and reflects a recurring and degraded state of product quality control.”And if you think that sounds bad, here's an article that makes it sound even worse! NASA Investigation Finds Boeing Hindering Americans' Return to Moon Maybe Boeing fell behind on their bribe schedule, or maybe their corporate culture's shift from an incredible engineering company to an MBA-driven financial company has something to do with it. Add in the frantic and all-encompassing dedication to DEI over all other considerations like design, engineering and production excellence, and we might have a hint at why Boeing has turned to absolute sh*t. Over budget, behind schedule, substandard quality, designs that simply don't work...that doesn't signal a company that is in control. Contrast that to SpaceX, which developed its first rocket from scratch for about $100,000,000. They had their first successful launch 15 years ago, and SpaceX is now the preeminent space launch organization on the planet. And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
“Boeing’s process to address deficiencies to date has been ineffective, and the company has generally been nonresponsive in taking corrective actions when the same quality control issues reoccur,” the report said.
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I'll fetch em
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 12:01 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Pete Bog at August 11, 2024 12:02 PM (Zjxb6)
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Nothin a little duct tape and baling wire won’t fix. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot at August 11, 2024 12:03 PM (u73oe)
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Bureaucracy is failure waiting to happen.
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 12:05 PM (fwDg9)
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The military had it procurement issues but overall they were the best any government could produce.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:06 PM (B1dzx)
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And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM
Pocket protecters. Only esplanation..
Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM
Pocket protecters. Only esplanation..
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:06 PM (4XwPj)
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And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
The first sentence answers the second sentence.
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
The first sentence answers the second sentence.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2024 12:06 PM (1Nxff)
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Hope I didn’t leave my curling iron plugged in.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot at August 11, 2024 12:06 PM (u73oe)
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Could someone swing by my house and feed the cat? Probably getting a bit hungry by now.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot at August 11, 2024 12:07 PM (u73oe)
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Those guys stuck up in space must love Boeing. It's like a months long layover stuck in a Greyhound bus.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:07 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2024 12:08 PM (WXNFJ)
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I thought when they made a move out of Seattle they were on the right track. But they essentially moved to DC. That should have been a big red flag.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:08 PM (B1dzx)
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You know, someone should ask the chair of the National Space Council what's going on.
And by someone, I mean like these people that are supposed to ask questions of people in power. You know, like, well, let's call them 'journalites' or 'reporteragees'. Oh, wait, they're called journalists.
So, let's have these 'journalists' ask the chair of the National Space Council what's up. Who? What? Who is the chair of the National Space Council?
That's a damn good question.
And by someone, I mean like these people that are supposed to ask questions of people in power. You know, like, well, let's call them 'journalites' or 'reporteragees'. Oh, wait, they're called journalists.
So, let's have these 'journalists' ask the chair of the National Space Council what's up. Who? What? Who is the chair of the National Space Council?
That's a damn good question.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2024 12:09 PM (IG4Id)
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Commercial air travel, space program... so much fail.
I wonder how that translates into weapons manufacturing.
People who believe in the superiority of American military tech don't seem to see a connection.
I wonder how that translates into weapons manufacturing.
People who believe in the superiority of American military tech don't seem to see a connection.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Y0Zsg)
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If it's Boeing, I'm not going!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2024 12:08 PM (WXNFJ)
Heh...I used to enjoy getting onto the newest plane, but now? I'll take a 25 year old 767 over a sweet and new 787 any day.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2024 12:08 PM (WXNFJ)
Heh...I used to enjoy getting onto the newest plane, but now? I'll take a 25 year old 767 over a sweet and new 787 any day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (d9fT1)
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I read an article about Boeing a few months ago. The gist was that their new (then) CEO had the bright idea of hiring low-skilled, low-wage people off the street because they were cheap. Now I'm not one to defend lazy, entitled union employees, of which Boeing had a ton, but that doesn't mean you completely eliminate standards, which is what this clown did. The remaining senior workers, who were accustomed to stringent quality controls, were either ignored or fired when they tried to blow the whistle on shoddy work. The results speak for themselves. I don't know if that CEO was an MBA, but it is certainly consistent with their destructive impact on other, formerly great, old-line companies. We'd better learn the lesson that quality matters tout de suite or we're going to be out of business as a country.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)
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Corporate America critically needs to deprogram its executive classes of the rot that elite business schools have taught. A start would be to consider those schools toxic, along with their graduates.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (d9Cw3)
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Boeing did make the wings for the F-22. Probably the most suspect part of the plane if I had to guess.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (B1dzx)
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And yet "Boeing has announced (Aug 9th) that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft. This is despite the company coming under fire in recent years due to the lack of quality production and oversight that has led to multiple tragedies with their aircrafts."
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (PiwSw)
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I've mentioned this before, but I can't help but notice the managerial differences. The "corporate culture". In '68 they decided to skip a scheduled mission of earth orbit and go for a lunar flight and orbit. This was due to the lunar module not ready yet, Grumman had a lot of problems with it, yet they did a stellar job. heh
The story of how they let the contracts was interesting. They weren't asking for designs or models during the first meetings. It was more of a 20 questions kind of thing, how would you do this, and how would you do that.
A few major corporations signed up. What Grumman had done though, was at their own expense, starting about 1959, had a team dedicated to studying the lunar missions and how a space craft might be built and what the requirements would be.
So when NASA started interviewing companies, once they hit Grumman, it was like "Wow!", and there wasn't too much debate I reckon. They were WAY ahead of everybody else, and it wasn't even close.
The story of how they let the contracts was interesting. They weren't asking for designs or models during the first meetings. It was more of a 20 questions kind of thing, how would you do this, and how would you do that.
A few major corporations signed up. What Grumman had done though, was at their own expense, starting about 1959, had a team dedicated to studying the lunar missions and how a space craft might be built and what the requirements would be.
So when NASA started interviewing companies, once they hit Grumman, it was like "Wow!", and there wasn't too much debate I reckon. They were WAY ahead of everybody else, and it wasn't even close.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:11 PM (oN30K)
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Crying ass shame to see a world-changing company like Boeing go down the tubes
who's gonna buy their shit now
who's gonna buy their shit now
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:11 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
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Corporate America critically needs to deprogram its executive classes of the rot that elite business schools have taught. A start would be to consider those schools toxic, along with their graduates.
I think you can hire MBAs, but only if they also have engineering degrees.
I think you can hire MBAs, but only if they also have engineering degrees.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
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So, let's have these 'journalists' ask the chair of the National Space Council what's up. Who? What? Who is the chair of the National Space Council?
That's a damn good question.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2024 12:09 PM (IG4Id)
Sorta like asking who's running the country.
It's not that corporate media is incurious, they're just not set up to ask those questions because they only exist as a propaganda machine.
That's a damn good question.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2024 12:09 PM (IG4Id)
Sorta like asking who's running the country.
It's not that corporate media is incurious, they're just not set up to ask those questions because they only exist as a propaganda machine.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:12 PM (Y0Zsg)
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Commercial air travel, space program... so much fail.
I wonder how that translates into weapons manufacturing.
People who believe in the superiority of American military tech don't seem to see a connection.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Y0Zsg)
This is about me, isn't it.
I wonder how that translates into weapons manufacturing.
People who believe in the superiority of American military tech don't seem to see a connection.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Y0Zsg)
This is about me, isn't it.
Posted by: The F-35 Program at August 11, 2024 12:12 PM (cyitD)
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And you're right- when NASA- which hasn't done very much interesting since Apollo- rags on your shitty work product, that's gotta hurt
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:13 PM (/7KEl)
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Nothin a little duct tape and baling wire won’t fix. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot
My cousin drove a 1972 pickup truck that was, I shit you not, held together with those. Inside the cab, duct tape. The body, baling wire.
You have not lived until you have ridden in a truck that had seat upholstery of duct tape and the dash held together with duct tape. And when he was making a right turn on a deserted back road, yelled EMERGENCY BRAKE! He didn't slow down, just jammed the emergency brake and cranked the wheel. Why did he do that? It was funny!
Damn I miss him.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot
My cousin drove a 1972 pickup truck that was, I shit you not, held together with those. Inside the cab, duct tape. The body, baling wire.
You have not lived until you have ridden in a truck that had seat upholstery of duct tape and the dash held together with duct tape. And when he was making a right turn on a deserted back road, yelled EMERGENCY BRAKE! He didn't slow down, just jammed the emergency brake and cranked the wheel. Why did he do that? It was funny!
Damn I miss him.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:13 PM (4XwPj)
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My father worked for Boeing supervising repair and upgrades to the K -135 fleet . He was not a fan of Boeing management. To be fair he was also not a big fan of his union workers either though I don't think it was because of the quality of work.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:13 PM (B1dzx)
Posted by: lurking grandma at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM (sujqA)
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To be fair to Boeing, and not making excuses, but NASA's entire space program is FUBAR. They've made fundamental changes to their requirements long after engineering and construction started on components for Starliner.
And changes to the requirements for a yet to be built moon landing.
But Boeing's QA is shit. Their leadership is shit. And Dave Calhoun, Boeing's CEO is stepping down at the end of the year. Because he's also shit.
And changes to the requirements for a yet to be built moon landing.
But Boeing's QA is shit. Their leadership is shit. And Dave Calhoun, Boeing's CEO is stepping down at the end of the year. Because he's also shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)
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Wonder if the library will cut me a break on the late fees.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM (u73oe)
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Corporate America critically needs to deprogram its executive classes of the rot that elite business schools have taught. A start would be to consider those schools toxic, along with their graduates.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (d9Cw3)
Needs to, but it won't.
So what's the next option?
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 11, 2024 12:10 PM (d9Cw3)
Needs to, but it won't.
So what's the next option?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM (Y0Zsg)
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It came out when it happened and as part of the commercial air problems, but the guy 2 CEOs ago was vocally proud of letting go all of those "asshole engineers" - the ones that stood up for their teams and products, but cost money due to making sure shit was right, not "right now.".
They defenestrated themselves for a quarterly target.
They defenestrated themselves for a quarterly target.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM (zrlyb)
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My experience is that you become an engineer first and then go back and get your MBA.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (B1dzx)
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Maybe Boeing fell behind on their bribe schedule, or maybe their corporate culture's shift from an incredible engineering company to an MBA-driven financial company has something to do with it.
Where are institutions like Bell Labs? All major corporations used to have robust R&D organizations run by guys with scientific and organizational know-how.
Then the corporate raiders and the MBA consultants came along and determined that instead of money manufacturing products, products would manufacture money. "Shareholder return" is now king and DEI is queen.
R&D, deemed uneconomic, has been reduced to a shell, kept around to fight fires in production. We're losing the ability not just to innovate but even to maintain.
Maybe Boeing fell behind on their bribe schedule, or maybe their corporate culture's shift from an incredible engineering company to an MBA-driven financial company has something to do with it.
Where are institutions like Bell Labs? All major corporations used to have robust R&D organizations run by guys with scientific and organizational know-how.
Then the corporate raiders and the MBA consultants came along and determined that instead of money manufacturing products, products would manufacture money. "Shareholder return" is now king and DEI is queen.
R&D, deemed uneconomic, has been reduced to a shell, kept around to fight fires in production. We're losing the ability not just to innovate but even to maintain.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (1Nxff)
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Wonder if the library will cut me a break on the late fees.
Posted by: Starliner Pilot
"There's a Starman, waiting in the sky,
He'd like to come and meet us, but his books are all behind."
Posted by: Starliner Pilot
"There's a Starman, waiting in the sky,
He'd like to come and meet us, but his books are all behind."
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (WXNFJ)
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Rocco Petrone is an interesting cat. Engineer. His mug looks like he's gonna make ya a deal ya can't refuse. LOL
But he was brilliant - and took no shit from anybody. He would fire people right on the spot. I'm convinced the Press Conferences were also a way for him to troubleshoot his engineers by feeding important questions to them. They were like lawyers, only asking questions that they already knew the answer to. They just want to see what YOU are going to say.
Answer wisely, or FIRED instantly. That's how important each team member was in those organizations.
Compare to the press conferences going on the last several months. I don't even know what they are saying, and we have to reverse engineer their cryptic statements for clues on what the true status is.
WWRD? "What Would Rocco Do?"
But he was brilliant - and took no shit from anybody. He would fire people right on the spot. I'm convinced the Press Conferences were also a way for him to troubleshoot his engineers by feeding important questions to them. They were like lawyers, only asking questions that they already knew the answer to. They just want to see what YOU are going to say.
Answer wisely, or FIRED instantly. That's how important each team member was in those organizations.
Compare to the press conferences going on the last several months. I don't even know what they are saying, and we have to reverse engineer their cryptic statements for clues on what the true status is.
WWRD? "What Would Rocco Do?"
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (oN30K)
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Boeing being a dumpster fire apparently has its rewards, though:
From today's TGP:
"Boeing has announced that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft."
From today's TGP:
"Boeing has announced that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft."
Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (vMtiO)
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Bad timing for their sponsorship of this week's Senior PGA event.
Posted by: Wally at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (9Uj9K)
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"Can somebody pick up my mail? And the lawn probably needs mowing.."
Posted by: Starliner crew at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Your friend neighborhood CCP at August 11, 2024 12:16 PM (IG4Id)
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But in the main, the federal government is a pathetic collection of career apparatchiks, layabouts, no-nothings, no-shows, thieves, and the flat-out laziest people in the country. So when they criticize one of their biggest contractors, you know something is up!
You forgot Ne'er-do-wells, drunkards, and sex-fiends.
You forgot Ne'er-do-wells, drunkards, and sex-fiends.
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 11, 2024 12:16 PM (gbOdA)
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Boeing being a dumpster fire apparently has its rewards, though:
From today's TGP:
"Boeing has announced that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft."
Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (vMtiO)
That's why they moved the headquarters to Arlington, VA.
From today's TGP:
"Boeing has announced that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft."
Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2024 12:15 PM (vMtiO)
That's why they moved the headquarters to Arlington, VA.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:17 PM (B1dzx)
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Thx CBD. The chair of the National Space Council which was revived under Trump is the VP. First Pence and now Kneepads. Any wonder why our entire space situation is a clusterf**k?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 11, 2024 12:17 PM (oqWMC)
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Boeing might have the autonomous return code for Starliner written by next month. Maybe.
For almost $6 billion Boeing has built TWO Space Edsels and this is the first manned flight.
Space X in contrast had less than $3 billion in NASA money for Dragon but has four capsules and multiple successful missions.
And somehow in typical government fashion NASA is back to Apollo 13 days when equipment won't interchange. In this case if Dragon has to rescue the stranded Dreamliner astronauts in 2025, they will have to launch with two Dragon spacesuits because the Boeing suits won't work with Dragon.
For almost $6 billion Boeing has built TWO Space Edsels and this is the first manned flight.
Space X in contrast had less than $3 billion in NASA money for Dragon but has four capsules and multiple successful missions.
And somehow in typical government fashion NASA is back to Apollo 13 days when equipment won't interchange. In this case if Dragon has to rescue the stranded Dreamliner astronauts in 2025, they will have to launch with two Dragon spacesuits because the Boeing suits won't work with Dragon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:17 PM (UeDJl)
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Snow Beige trailer.
If you didn't know about the previous controversy, the trailer would be unobjectionable. Disney has clearly decided they needed to tone down the woke, at least here.
If you didn't know about the previous controversy, the trailer would be unobjectionable. Disney has clearly decided they needed to tone down the woke, at least here.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:17 PM (xCA6C)
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Snow Beige trailer.
https://is.gd/WS9kX9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
I guess it doesn't much matter when you hire brown girls of average attractiveness... except when your story hinges on that character being more attractive than the evil lady.
In which case, hire the brown girl, but then don't hire an adult female who is stunningly gorgeous in comparison.
https://is.gd/WS9kX9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
I guess it doesn't much matter when you hire brown girls of average attractiveness... except when your story hinges on that character being more attractive than the evil lady.
In which case, hire the brown girl, but then don't hire an adult female who is stunningly gorgeous in comparison.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:18 PM (Y0Zsg)
Posted by: Starliner crew at August 11, 2024 12:18 PM (/7KEl)
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boeing will be OK, they just need to double down on DIE and everything will work out for them.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 11, 2024 12:18 PM (QNSds)
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35 My experience is that you become an engineer first and then go back and get your MBA.
A friend, who is a retired electrical engineer, recommends becoming an electrician first. He detests MBA's
A friend, who is a retired electrical engineer, recommends becoming an electrician first. He detests MBA's
Posted by: lurking grandma at August 11, 2024 12:18 PM (sujqA)
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> "Boeing has announced that it has been awarded a $2.56 billion dollar contract from the U.S. Air Force to manufacture E-7A AEW&C Wedgetail aircraft."
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It's based on Boeing's 737... so.
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It's based on Boeing's 737... so.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2024 12:18 PM (Q4IgG)
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"And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?"
Be interesting to data-crunch and do a Venn Diagram of all the highly-paid engineers who had worked for Boeing that were deemed too expensive (or too white, or too high a combination of penis and X-chromosome)... and the current employment at SpaceX.
If someone has the cash, I'm pretty sure they might also be able to hire ex-Disney employees who once produced beautiful and technically-skilled animation. Along with some screenwriters who, if they MUST put in a "gay lame chick", actually can manage to do so with a twist that even Moviegique would applaud.
Be interesting to data-crunch and do a Venn Diagram of all the highly-paid engineers who had worked for Boeing that were deemed too expensive (or too white, or too high a combination of penis and X-chromosome)... and the current employment at SpaceX.
If someone has the cash, I'm pretty sure they might also be able to hire ex-Disney employees who once produced beautiful and technically-skilled animation. Along with some screenwriters who, if they MUST put in a "gay lame chick", actually can manage to do so with a twist that even Moviegique would applaud.
Posted by: Another Anon at August 11, 2024 12:19 PM (QNMaY)
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Where are institutions like Bell Labs? All major corporations used to have robust R&D organizations run by guys with scientific and organizational know-how.
They're probably not the best example to use. Bell Labs was what it was because they had copious funding, thanks to the Bell phone monopoly. That is not to say that corporate R&D hasn't been drastically cut - it has.
They're probably not the best example to use. Bell Labs was what it was because they had copious funding, thanks to the Bell phone monopoly. That is not to say that corporate R&D hasn't been drastically cut - it has.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:19 PM (xCA6C)
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CBD, I adore you. You know this. But to indicate a company can’t be both profitable and safe is what gets us in these messes, and sounds a whole lot like the “discussions” I would get into across the table with union leadership. Sure, we can pay you $350 gazzillion dollars an hour. Absolutely you can have that 4 day work week. Want us to pay for all your healthcare? Robust reitirement? Checkity check. Here is the problem, friends and neighbors. Cash is finite. And when we have to shutter because we are bankrupt, this contract doesn’t mean a hill of beans. There are extremes here, and as someone with an MBA, the goals is making decisions that are good for all shareholders. Creating a company that can’t turn out the product you are tasked to turn out is not good for shareholders. The solution isn’t throwing financial considerations out the window. It’s readjusting priorities, staffing levels and getting back to basics.
Dear Boeing execs: call me. I have a feeling we could take a look at your CBAs and find a few solution all the while looking at your staffing models.
Dear Boeing execs: call me. I have a feeling we could take a look at your CBAs and find a few solution all the while looking at your staffing models.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (UeDJl)
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Not long after the MacD - Boeing merger, management went through a process of dumping the experienced senior people at every level just to cut salaries. Out the door with the pricier people...and the experienced, educated engineers. Totally crapped on their workforce. Today we see what that has done. A senior workforce with half the skills of what was there just two decades ago.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (W/lyH)
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In which case, hire the brown girl, but then don't hire an adult female who is stunningly gorgeous in comparison.
I didn't even recognize Gal Gadot.
I didn't even recognize Gal Gadot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:22 PM (UeDJl)
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There are extremes here, and as someone with an MBA, the goals is making decisions that are good for all shareholders. Creating a company that can’t turn out the product you are tasked to turn out is not good for shareholders. The solution isn’t throwing financial considerations out the window. It’s readjusting priorities, staffing levels and getting back to basics.
I think that's the problem. The average MBA is evaluated on short term profit, not long term investments. Therefore, that's what they emphasize, because it pays for them personally. They'll just move on to the next company when the current one augers in.
I think that's the problem. The average MBA is evaluated on short term profit, not long term investments. Therefore, that's what they emphasize, because it pays for them personally. They'll just move on to the next company when the current one augers in.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (xCA6C)
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I started my engineering career many years ago at a wonderful company that focused on engineering high quality products that, quite frankly, no one else could design or build. At a certain point Boeing bought that company and I became a Boeing employee. It didn’t happen overnight, but it was inevitable…. After about 10 years that great engineering company was now managed by bean counters and engineers had very little say…. I left after awhile. The wreckage I now see from a distance doesn’t surprise me
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (P/Wjn)
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Way to go Disney, am rooting for the 'evil' queen.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (UeDJl)
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US regulators are suing Musk to hire illegals for his space business -- even against the law to hire foreigners for national security reasons.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (wBaIH)
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Snow Beige trailer.
For $330 million they better have Gal Gadot naked in a hot tub. Bubbles optional.
For $330 million they better have Gal Gadot naked in a hot tub. Bubbles optional.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (cyitD)
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For here...
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
This time I'm really screwed
F***ing Boeing has no clue
For here...
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
This time I'm really screwed
F***ing Boeing has no clue
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (/7KEl)
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Meanwhile the B-52 is getting new engines and other upgrades.
When Boeing was run by engineers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:22 PM (UeDJl)
My Father was working on B-52s on a SAC base sixty five years ago. That's a plane.
When Boeing was run by engineers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:22 PM (UeDJl)
My Father was working on B-52s on a SAC base sixty five years ago. That's a plane.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (B1dzx)
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We watched Apollo13 again the other night. Hubbymayhem asked why that. I just said I wanted to see an America that made things and did amazing stuff. He nodded.
As a side note .... I know Ron Howard is a dickhead but the man knows his shit as a director. And the acting talent was damn good.
As a side note .... I know Ron Howard is a dickhead but the man knows his shit as a director. And the acting talent was damn good.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (4XwPj)
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Snow Beige trailer.
For $330 million they better have Gal Gadot naked in a hot tub.
I would pay to see that. Oh yes I would.
For $330 million they better have Gal Gadot naked in a hot tub.
I would pay to see that. Oh yes I would.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (xCA6C)
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I'm wondering how a bunch of DEI hires are handling the monstrosity that is the assembly facility in Everett. The building is so big it has *weather*. The office manager doesn't just make sure everyone has enough pencils, it's a serious asskicker. (I knew a previous facility manager decades ago, and I seriously doubt that the years of cut corners, freshly-minted MBAs having "better ideas", and unqualified seat fillers has made the job easier.)
Posted by: bittergeek at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (3SsGZ)
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In which case, hire the brown girl, but then don't hire an adult female who is stunningly gorgeous in comparison.
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I didn't even recognize Gal Gadot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (xCA6C)
I just know it's her, because when the stupid average looking brown girl was making all her stupid comments, before they shut her up, GG was sometimes standing right next to her.
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I didn't even recognize Gal Gadot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (xCA6C)
I just know it's her, because when the stupid average looking brown girl was making all her stupid comments, before they shut her up, GG was sometimes standing right next to her.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:25 PM (Y0Zsg)
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Well done, CBD.
Boeing McDonnell Douglas needs to die.
I know several people who worked for Boeing...engineers not knuckle-busters. They left like rats off a sinking ship after the merger.
I know several people who worked for Boeing...engineers not knuckle-busters. They left like rats off a sinking ship after the merger.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2024 12:25 PM (M6moH)
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>US regulators are suing Musk to hire illegals for his space business -
Musk will build a small island nation with his secret volcano machine and set up operations there
Musk will build a small island nation with his secret volcano machine and set up operations there
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:25 PM (/7KEl)
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And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
Posted by: CBD
Pocket protecters. Only esplanation..
Posted by: Madamemayhem
White short sleeve shirts, slide rules, crew cuts and cigarettes.
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
Posted by: CBD
Pocket protecters. Only esplanation..
Posted by: Madamemayhem
White short sleeve shirts, slide rules, crew cuts and cigarettes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:25 PM (63Dwl)
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Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:23 PM (xCA6C)
Whatever MBA came up with the Just In time inventory system should be tarred and feathered.
Whatever MBA came up with the Just In time inventory system should be tarred and feathered.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (B1dzx)
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Mike Allen
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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That asshole!
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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That asshole!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
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Stop noticing things, citizens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:27 PM (mIykB)
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Has Boeing fixed all the KC-46 issues yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:27 PM (UeDJl)
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The husband of astronaut Suni Williams has said that the space is her “happy place” even if she’s stuck there indefinitely.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
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CBD, I adore you. You know this. But to indicate a company can’t be both profitable and safe is what gets us in these messes, and sounds a whole lot like the “discussions” I would get into across the table with union leadership.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (pZEOD)
Thanks!
Nowhere did I indicate that a company cannot be both profitable and make excellent products. In fact, my guess is that the long term financial health of a company is probably most influenced by the excellence of its products, because it is difficult to make excellent products without excellence in design and engineering and manufacturing.
As for those lovely discussions with union reps? Yeah...I have had them, with people who complained about their pay even though they were already the highest paid in the industry.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:20 PM (pZEOD)
Thanks!
Nowhere did I indicate that a company cannot be both profitable and make excellent products. In fact, my guess is that the long term financial health of a company is probably most influenced by the excellence of its products, because it is difficult to make excellent products without excellence in design and engineering and manufacturing.
As for those lovely discussions with union reps? Yeah...I have had them, with people who complained about their pay even though they were already the highest paid in the industry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (d9fT1)
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This is all consistent with my Grand Unified Theory of Everything Going to Shit
Posted by: Entropy will not be denied at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (q1Zxb)
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oh noes...anyways
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (PXvVL)
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Saw the 777X at an airshow last weekend. It's a beautiful airplane. Huge. Very quiet. Banked a u turn over the lake quickly.
Really cool to see.
Really cool to see.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (5abr4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (UeDJl)
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Has Boeing fixed all the KC-46 issues yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:27 PM (UeDJl)
They are right on schedule for completion by 3rd quarter of 2032.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:27 PM (UeDJl)
They are right on schedule for completion by 3rd quarter of 2032.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (d9fT1)
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I think that's the problem. The average MBA is evaluated on short term profit, not long term investments. Therefore, that's what they emphasize, because it pays for them personally. They'll just move on to the next company when the current one augers in.
Posted by: Archimedes at August
I don’t disagree with you, I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated. I remain hopeful we return to a more normalized environment, which does not include social credit audits.
I think that's the problem. The average MBA is evaluated on short term profit, not long term investments. Therefore, that's what they emphasize, because it pays for them personally. They'll just move on to the next company when the current one augers in.
Posted by: Archimedes at August
I don’t disagree with you, I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated. I remain hopeful we return to a more normalized environment, which does not include social credit audits.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
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Mike Allen
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
Is that up for debate?
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
Is that up for debate?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (FfSAJ)
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We watched Apollo13 again the other night. Hubbymayhem asked why that. I just said I wanted to see an America that made things and did amazing stuff. He nodded.
As a side note .... I know Ron Howard is a dickhead but the man knows his shit as a director. And the acting talent was damn good.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (4XwPj)
I watched that with my dad and grandpa years ago, and that's when Grandpa told me that he had worked for NASA via Boeing for the Appollo missions. I was stunned. He never talked about it. Never wanted to sound like he was bragging, I guess. Was just a thing he did. He did say Ed Harris portrayed Gene Kranz very well.
As a side note .... I know Ron Howard is a dickhead but the man knows his shit as a director. And the acting talent was damn good.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:24 PM (4XwPj)
I watched that with my dad and grandpa years ago, and that's when Grandpa told me that he had worked for NASA via Boeing for the Appollo missions. I was stunned. He never talked about it. Never wanted to sound like he was bragging, I guess. Was just a thing he did. He did say Ed Harris portrayed Gene Kranz very well.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Icky Weirdo at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (Ad8y9)
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Mike Allen
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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That asshole!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
He calls the woman who says he's worse than Hitler a bitch?
How dare he.
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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That asshole!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
He calls the woman who says he's worse than Hitler a bitch?
How dare he.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (Y0Zsg)
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The husband of astronaut Suni Williams has said that the space is her “happy place” even if she’s stuck there indefinitely.
Posted by: redridinghood
He may want to practice saying "She died seeking her bliss." like that asshoe mother of the death 7 year old pilot trying to go 'round the world.
Posted by: redridinghood
He may want to practice saying "She died seeking her bliss." like that asshoe mother of the death 7 year old pilot trying to go 'round the world.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2024 12:30 PM (WXNFJ)
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When I worked at Boeing we did computer-based modeling and simulations. My area was the RAH-66 helicopter program. We used a model called QJM, Quantified Judgement Model. It was simple, easy to use, adaptable to any warfighting scenario, and surprisingly accurate. And it ran on a 286 computer. My colleague and mentor wrote the program.
Boeing management, in upgrading computers demanded that all older computers be turned in. We would hide the 286 every time the IT geeks came.through doing upgrades and maintenance. That old program made the company several hundred million dollars.
Boeing management, in upgrading computers demanded that all older computers be turned in. We would hide the 286 every time the IT geeks came.through doing upgrades and maintenance. That old program made the company several hundred million dollars.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 12:30 PM (W/lyH)
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@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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Gosh, imagine being treated as an equal instead as some little wilting flower that needs tender care and attention.
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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Gosh, imagine being treated as an equal instead as some little wilting flower that needs tender care and attention.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (mIykB)
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going back to the last thread, trek did come up with inertial dampeners to cover the incredible speeds, but I don't think that would really solve the problem, even with a einstein rosenman bring, it would take titanic stresses to cover such huge distances, Paolini did spend three years studying up on the science behind his,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (PXvVL)
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Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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That asshole!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
He calls the woman who says he's worse than Hitler a bitch?
How dare he.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (Y0Zsg)
Considering she's a jizz-gargling gutter whore, he's being generous.
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That asshole!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)
He calls the woman who says he's worse than Hitler a bitch?
How dare he.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (Y0Zsg)
Considering she's a jizz-gargling gutter whore, he's being generous.
Posted by: A step up, even at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (q1Zxb)
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Part of the poison of Boeing culture that has nothing to do with DEI (which only makes things worse) is a system of incentives that rewards short-term thinkers… if I saw it once I saw it a thousand times…. An ambitious project manager who generated all sorts of initiatives and flashy PowerPoint slides to be noticed…. Who move on to their next assignment (a promotion) and leave behind wreckage that isn’t noticed until later. They rotate in and out of jobs on 18 month centers and never want to hear bad news from engineers. But because they “cut costs” in their short stint they’re promoted. Rinse and repeat over and over until their mid-level execs
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (P/Wjn)
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (/7KEl)
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The husband of astronaut Suni Williams has said that the space is her “happy place” even if she’s stuck there indefinitely.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
Translation: I'm down here raking in poon (or dick, whichever) while she's stuck up there.
Take your time, hon.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2024 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
Translation: I'm down here raking in poon (or dick, whichever) while she's stuck up there.
Take your time, hon.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:32 PM (Y0Zsg)
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Contrast that to SpaceX, which developed its first rocket from scratch for about $100,000,000. They had their first successful launch 15 years ago, and SpaceX is now the preeminent space launch organization on the planet.
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
This level of cruelty is *chef's kiss*!
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
This level of cruelty is *chef's kiss*!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2024 12:32 PM (Aqu9a)
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PS. Space -X is not unionized. Listen, unions had a role and a place. That time has left. And no, I don’t blame unions for the downfall of Boeing completely, someone somewhere agreed to the contract language. But if you don’t think the agility of a company improves without a union, you haven’t dealt with a union. The level of waste involved there is unbelievable.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:32 PM (pZEOD)
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The husband of astronaut Suni Williams has said that the space is her “happy place” even if she’s stuck there indefinitely.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Dang, bro. I wouldn't want to hear my wife say that about me and our home/relationship, much less would I voluntarily spread it around to everyone else.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Dang, bro. I wouldn't want to hear my wife say that about me and our home/relationship, much less would I voluntarily spread it around to everyone else.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:32 PM (mIykB)
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On a previous First World thread I opined that I thought what has happed to the USA is what makes third world countries what they are. The general attitude of ' Good enough' .
The USA attitude used to be one of ' never good enough' thus always striving for perfection and better than the next person. It has its drawbacks but it's what made us exceptional and the greatest country in history.
Now I'm afraid we're slipping into the 'good enough' territory.
The USA attitude used to be one of ' never good enough' thus always striving for perfection and better than the next person. It has its drawbacks but it's what made us exceptional and the greatest country in history.
Now I'm afraid we're slipping into the 'good enough' territory.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:33 PM (B1dzx)
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They shot him in the head, so I'm okay with using a bad word about them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:33 PM (mIykB)
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Mike Allen
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
So are we back to second hand reporting done as fact about things that the Orange Man said?
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
So are we back to second hand reporting done as fact about things that the Orange Man said?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 12:34 PM (W/lyH)
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Considering she's a jizz-gargling gutter whore, he's being generous.
Posted by: A step up, even at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (q1Zxb)
But jizz-gargling gutter whores are supposed to be above criticism.
I will say this in defense of Cummala... at least she's never lied about her military service.
Posted by: A step up, even at August 11, 2024 12:31 PM (q1Zxb)
But jizz-gargling gutter whores are supposed to be above criticism.
I will say this in defense of Cummala... at least she's never lied about her military service.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:34 PM (Y0Zsg)
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95 >>@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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okay
Posted by: Don Black at August
Giggle, Don. You are a gem. For the x poster- it’s already been debunked. Someone said someone said someone (and maybe even 5 more someones more) inside the Trump camp said he said it under his breath. No one knows who, the the Trump campaign has said this never happened.
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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okay
Posted by: Don Black at August
Giggle, Don. You are a gem. For the x poster- it’s already been debunked. Someone said someone said someone (and maybe even 5 more someones more) inside the Trump camp said he said it under his breath. No one knows who, the the Trump campaign has said this never happened.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (pZEOD)
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Look, Trump was wrong to call Kamala a bitch in private. She's also a bitch in public.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (L/fGl)
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As for those lovely discussions with union reps? Yeah...I have had them, with people who complained about their pay even though they were already the highest paid in the industry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August
My son took a job at Boeing about a year ago. In the factory. He took a significant pay cut from the hardware store to start at Boeing. He saw the opportunity for growth with the company, that's why he took the job.
But the factory workers don't make shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August
My son took a job at Boeing about a year ago. In the factory. He took a significant pay cut from the hardware store to start at Boeing. He saw the opportunity for growth with the company, that's why he took the job.
But the factory workers don't make shit.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (hQPf/)
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I wonder if the trapped astronauts are getting some kind of premium pay while stuck in space. Getting out of the return capsule and sticking your contract, which says you get an additional $1000 per hour while in flight, in a Boeing Beancounter's face would be sweet.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (cyitD)
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its much like Dan Hamilton randolphs corporation in the series beginning with privateer, which he sort of revised later in life,
when islamic terrorism had replaced a Soviet empire,
when islamic terrorism had replaced a Soviet empire,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (PXvVL)
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Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:32 PM (pZEOD)
My father was the President of the local IAM and would basically agree with your general premise. His only caveat is management will always evolve to being assholes with few exceptions.
My father was the President of the local IAM and would basically agree with your general premise. His only caveat is management will always evolve to being assholes with few exceptions.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (B1dzx)
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@102
>>So are we back to second hand reporting done as fact about things that the Orange Man said?
B*tch is so tame, I'm surprised they didn't amp it up even more, really throw some fuel an the fire.
>>So are we back to second hand reporting done as fact about things that the Orange Man said?
B*tch is so tame, I'm surprised they didn't amp it up even more, really throw some fuel an the fire.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
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He did say Ed Harris portrayed Gene Kranz very well.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Gene Kranz said that too. He's 90 yrs old now.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Gene Kranz said that too. He's 90 yrs old now.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:37 PM (4XwPj)
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They shot him in the head, so I'm okay with using a bad word about them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:33 PM (mIykB)
Did they? I have a vague recollection of something happening to someone a few Saturdays ago, but I just don't quite remember what it was.
Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:33 PM (mIykB)
Did they? I have a vague recollection of something happening to someone a few Saturdays ago, but I just don't quite remember what it was.
Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:37 PM (Y0Zsg)
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We know definitely Hillary called her staff 'damn Jew bastards '
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:38 PM (B1dzx)
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Part of the poison of Boeing culture that has nothing to do with DEI (which only makes things worse) is a system of incentives that rewards short-term thinkers… if I saw it once I saw it a thousand times…. An ambitious project manager who generated all sorts of initiatives and flashy PowerPoint slides to be noticed…. Who move on to their next assignment (a promotion) and leave behind wreckage that isn’t noticed until later. They rotate in and out of jobs on 18 month centers and never want to hear bad news from engineers. But because they “cut costs” in their short stint they’re promoted. Rinse and repeat over and over until their mid-level execs
From what I've read, this sort of thinking is also endemic to the military. Everybody wants to make a short term splash, because that leads to promotion, while the ensuing wreckage isn't noticed until that person is long gone. I did see similar thinking among scientific research sponsors, though. They were at places like DARPA for 3-5 years, and when they moved on, the new guy would often gut or outright cancel existing, successful programs simply because he wanted to make his own mark.
From what I've read, this sort of thinking is also endemic to the military. Everybody wants to make a short term splash, because that leads to promotion, while the ensuing wreckage isn't noticed until that person is long gone. I did see similar thinking among scientific research sponsors, though. They were at places like DARPA for 3-5 years, and when they moved on, the new guy would often gut or outright cancel existing, successful programs simply because he wanted to make his own mark.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)
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@112
>>Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
It's essentially a non-event.
Just got to keep pressing on and moving forward and hope the wicked get what they deserve.
>>Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
It's essentially a non-event.
Just got to keep pressing on and moving forward and hope the wicked get what they deserve.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (XV/Pl)
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Giggle, Don. You are a gem. For the x poster- it’s already been debunked. Someone said someone said someone (and maybe even 5 more someones more) inside the Trump camp said he said it under his breath. No one knows who, the the Trump campaign has said this never happened.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (pZEOD)
Pretty sure he said it when he was yanking the steering wheel out of the hands of his driver.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (pZEOD)
Pretty sure he said it when he was yanking the steering wheel out of the hands of his driver.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (Y0Zsg)
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Now I'm afraid we're slipping into the 'good enough' territory.
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I think it's less "slipping" and more pushed.
Globalization has done it. The jobs that left in the 70s-90s?
Outsourcing.
At the same time illegals were taking over skilled labor that didn't require degrees.
Insourcing.
The effect is the same. You and your kids don't have jobs, and the jobs you have haven't kept pace with the market/economy. Because **ck you, that's why. You're just Americans. You're not important. You're certainly not any more special than anyone else, and America isn't, either.
(remember 10-20 years or so back when the latter was openly said by politicians and presidents and taught by academics?)
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I think it's less "slipping" and more pushed.
Globalization has done it. The jobs that left in the 70s-90s?
Outsourcing.
At the same time illegals were taking over skilled labor that didn't require degrees.
Insourcing.
The effect is the same. You and your kids don't have jobs, and the jobs you have haven't kept pace with the market/economy. Because **ck you, that's why. You're just Americans. You're not important. You're certainly not any more special than anyone else, and America isn't, either.
(remember 10-20 years or so back when the latter was openly said by politicians and presidents and taught by academics?)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (mIykB)
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Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:37 PM (Y0Zsg)
All you're gonna find in the "news" is glowing stories about the "Joyful" Harris campaign and the weird creepy Trump campaign
Lemme turn on the news, see if there's something about it there.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:37 PM (Y0Zsg)
All you're gonna find in the "news" is glowing stories about the "Joyful" Harris campaign and the weird creepy Trump campaign
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (IyPmt)
119
>Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:35 PM (pZEOD)
thank you
I'm sure the respective campaigns say rude things about each other all the time
thank you
I'm sure the respective campaigns say rude things about each other all the time
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (/7KEl)
120
I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)
121
Just got to keep pressing on and moving forward and hope the wicked get what they deserve.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (XV/Pl)
At this point I don't expect that to happen in this life.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (XV/Pl)
At this point I don't expect that to happen in this life.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (Y0Zsg)
122
"They shot him in the head, so I'm okay with using a bad word about them."
I'm guessing that action was above Kamala's pay grade, as are most major decisions.
I'm guessing that action was above Kamala's pay grade, as are most major decisions.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (Cus5s)
123
Hamilton was largely based on a hughes type, minus the germophobia,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (PXvVL)
124
A few things:
1. I am so glad I dumped BA stick earlier this year. Bought some after 9/11. It was a good run.
2. I so wish I could invest in SpaceX, but private. 118 launches in the last 365 days.
3. I absolutely despise the Wegovy music.
1. I am so glad I dumped BA stick earlier this year. Bought some after 9/11. It was a good run.
2. I so wish I could invest in SpaceX, but private. 118 launches in the last 365 days.
3. I absolutely despise the Wegovy music.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 12:41 PM (ufFY8)
125
@121
>>At this point I don't expect that to happen in this life.
Probably not, sometime the bad guys win.
It sucks, but it happens.
>>At this point I don't expect that to happen in this life.
Probably not, sometime the bad guys win.
It sucks, but it happens.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:41 PM (XV/Pl)
126
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (mIykB)
But it's also a cultural attitude, as you said Forced on us.
The new math is just an example . The not keeping score in youth soccer. Everyone gets a trophy , etc.
But it's also a cultural attitude, as you said Forced on us.
The new math is just an example . The not keeping score in youth soccer. Everyone gets a trophy , etc.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:42 PM (B1dzx)
127
I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
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We got a glimpse of the problem when Trump was elected. That curtain got pulled back on them, too. Their priorities aren't products or consumers. Their priorities are doing what their loan officers tell them to do so they can continue receiving short-term funding to keep their business operating another week. Even the big boys like Coke.
Everything is fake and gay.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
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We got a glimpse of the problem when Trump was elected. That curtain got pulled back on them, too. Their priorities aren't products or consumers. Their priorities are doing what their loan officers tell them to do so they can continue receiving short-term funding to keep their business operating another week. Even the big boys like Coke.
Everything is fake and gay.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:42 PM (mIykB)
128
Production mistakes and quality issues are affecting another Boeing product.
A delivery slippage of up to SIX months could result for the F-15EX.
A delivery slippage of up to SIX months could result for the F-15EX.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2024 12:42 PM (UeDJl)
129
Appropos of nothing, any Black Hawk drivers here? I'm trying to remember - the blades had a heating system, run through a kind of slip ring rotor in their somewhere. The droop stops too, had heaters.
But I don't remember ever cranking them up, maybe check them once in a while. It "seems to me, maybe they just didn't work very well and there was probably a permanent write-up or circle red x for restrictions into known icing environments. To be clear I was a crew chief, not a driver.
I got to thinking about Anti-icing systems because of the recent unpleasantness in Brazil the other day.
But I don't remember ever cranking them up, maybe check them once in a while. It "seems to me, maybe they just didn't work very well and there was probably a permanent write-up or circle red x for restrictions into known icing environments. To be clear I was a crew chief, not a driver.
I got to thinking about Anti-icing systems because of the recent unpleasantness in Brazil the other day.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (oN30K)
130
All you're gonna find in the "news" is glowing stories about the "Joyful" Harris campaign and the weird creepy Trump campaign
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (IyPmt)
I saw some hand-wringing this weekend, from people who seem to have bought into the narrative.
She's got all the momentum, and Trump's not doing anything to counteract it.
It amazes me how some people rail against corporate media out of one side of their mouths, then eat up whatever corporate media is saying out of the other.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (IyPmt)
I saw some hand-wringing this weekend, from people who seem to have bought into the narrative.
She's got all the momentum, and Trump's not doing anything to counteract it.
It amazes me how some people rail against corporate media out of one side of their mouths, then eat up whatever corporate media is saying out of the other.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (Y0Zsg)
131
"They shot him in the head, so I'm okay with using a bad word about them."
I'm guessing that action was above Kamala's pay grade, as are most major decisions.
Posted by: illiniwek
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I don't necessarily disagree. I suspect she was aware of the operation, though.
Funny how it happened right after the SCOTUS said it would be legal.
I'm guessing that action was above Kamala's pay grade, as are most major decisions.
Posted by: illiniwek
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I don't necessarily disagree. I suspect she was aware of the operation, though.
Funny how it happened right after the SCOTUS said it would be legal.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (mIykB)
132
I saw some hand-wringing this weekend, from people who seem to have bought into the narrative.
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Someone on the ONT (IIRC) was pointing out that photographs of her campaign events have crowds but no reflections in mirrored surfaces, and too many arms on some of the people. AI generated propaganda.
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Someone on the ONT (IIRC) was pointing out that photographs of her campaign events have crowds but no reflections in mirrored surfaces, and too many arms on some of the people. AI generated propaganda.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (mIykB)
133
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (Y0Zsg)
I'm not saying I'm buying it.. Just saying it's out there
I'm not saying I'm buying it.. Just saying it's out there
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (IyPmt)
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:45 PM (PXvVL)
135
109 My father was the President of the local IAM and would basically agree with your general premise. His only caveat is management will always evolve to being assholes with few exceptions.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (B1dzx)
I don’t dislike the people in unions. Listen, I had an amazing career ironically based on them. Labor Relations is my absolute bailiwick and would be the only thing dangled in front of me that would make me sell my studio and put my pumps back on. Working with smart union leadership is fun. I got my arrogant tail handed to me a few times in the beginning, I am forever grateful for it (Mike K, if you read this, thank you, friend!). I didn’t let managers violate our contracts. We both agreed to it, it is what it is, now live with it. I actually was given a membership card from the USW after locking them out for 2 years. That stupid card means more to me than my Tiffany statue HR person of the year award. Firm, fair and consistent. It’s not hard.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (B1dzx)
I don’t dislike the people in unions. Listen, I had an amazing career ironically based on them. Labor Relations is my absolute bailiwick and would be the only thing dangled in front of me that would make me sell my studio and put my pumps back on. Working with smart union leadership is fun. I got my arrogant tail handed to me a few times in the beginning, I am forever grateful for it (Mike K, if you read this, thank you, friend!). I didn’t let managers violate our contracts. We both agreed to it, it is what it is, now live with it. I actually was given a membership card from the USW after locking them out for 2 years. That stupid card means more to me than my Tiffany statue HR person of the year award. Firm, fair and consistent. It’s not hard.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:46 PM (pZEOD)
136
I'm guessing that action was above Kamala's pay grade, as are most major decisions.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (Cus5s)
Which sorta illustrates one of the problems: Does he run against her, or does he run against the people who pull her strings?
You don't even have to make this about the "Deep State." But someone is letting illegals raid the country, someone is causing inflation, someone is dicking around in foreign lands, someone is taxing us into oblivion, letting the perverts and BLMs run wild, and so on and so forth.
You can run on trying to push back on all that, but acting like Cummala is doing it... everyone is well aware she's not causing any of it. Especially those who will vote for her.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (Cus5s)
Which sorta illustrates one of the problems: Does he run against her, or does he run against the people who pull her strings?
You don't even have to make this about the "Deep State." But someone is letting illegals raid the country, someone is causing inflation, someone is dicking around in foreign lands, someone is taxing us into oblivion, letting the perverts and BLMs run wild, and so on and so forth.
You can run on trying to push back on all that, but acting like Cummala is doing it... everyone is well aware she's not causing any of it. Especially those who will vote for her.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:48 PM (Z048x)
137
It seems like every big American corporation eventually starts to resemble the federal government. Look at General Electric, IBM, Intel, General Motors, Boeing etc. These companies at one time dominated but now are complete jokes.
I'm sure some of it is in order to get these lucrative government contracts, you have to start resembling the federal government.
I'm sure some of it is in order to get these lucrative government contracts, you have to start resembling the federal government.
Posted by: Blago at August 11, 2024 12:49 PM (wMRY8)
138
My experience with managment and labor, was at the extreme, neither was worth a bucket of warm piss. I just wanted to work, and get paid. Others, well .... they have other ideas.
"This job sucks, I don't want to do it anymore. Therefore, I should go into management" is not really an optimal business practice either.
"This job sucks, I don't want to do it anymore. Therefore, I should go into management" is not really an optimal business practice either.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (oN30K)
139
they stopped polling 7 days ago, why do you think that is?
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (PXvVL)
140
>>> 120 I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)
I think I see the problem...
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)
I think I see the problem...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (FnneF)
141
The New Accounting is all kinds of messed up too. FASB, the standards setter, have taken delight with the computers and spreadsheet's ability to calculate the 35-year depreciation schedule on each individual sandal of every (n) count angels dancing on the head of a pin.
It's insane and does nothing for getting the basic closing the books and reporting results in a timely and layman-understandable manner.
Thankfully, we can just write it off! (h/t Cosmo Kramer)
It's insane and does nothing for getting the basic closing the books and reporting results in a timely and layman-understandable manner.
Thankfully, we can just write it off! (h/t Cosmo Kramer)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (Aqu9a)
142
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (Y0Zsg)
I'm not saying I'm buying it.. Just saying it's out there
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (IyPmt)
I know, I'm not talking about you, I mean online commentators who should know better.
I'm not saying I'm buying it.. Just saying it's out there
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (IyPmt)
I know, I'm not talking about you, I mean online commentators who should know better.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (Z048x)
143
I don’t dislike the people in unions.
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Have you met anyone in public sector union management yet?
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Have you met anyone in public sector union management yet?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 12:51 PM (fs1hN)
144
I didn’t let managers violate our contracts. We both agreed to it, it is what it is, now live with it.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:46 PM (pZEOD)
The trick that most managers fail at is knowing the contract better than the workers and their stewards.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:46 PM (pZEOD)
The trick that most managers fail at is knowing the contract better than the workers and their stewards.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:51 PM (d9fT1)
145
My lame little conspiracy theory: "joy" is one of the key descriptors someone used to generate those AI rally photos. They were so proud of the results that they started using it internally and pushing it out to their mouthpieces.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 11, 2024 12:51 PM (hCzfy)
146
Mike Allen
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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You know who called Kamala Harras a bitch in public?
Of all people!!!!
https://tinyurl.com/28eaweas
@mikeallen
Report: Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private
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You know who called Kamala Harras a bitch in public?
Of all people!!!!
https://tinyurl.com/28eaweas
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 11, 2024 12:51 PM (E3oJ+)
147
recently heard:
"Of course you have to call Governor Tim Walz Coach. There is absolutely nothing about him that says either First Class or Business"
"Of course you have to call Governor Tim Walz Coach. There is absolutely nothing about him that says either First Class or Business"
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 12:51 PM (D7oie)
148
My experience with managment and labor, was at the extreme, neither was worth a bucket of warm piss. I just wanted to work, and get paid. Others, well .... they have other ideas.
"This job sucks, I don't want to do it anymore. Therefore, I should go into management" is not really an optimal business practice either.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (oN30K)
Ditto for teaching (Miss Crabtree) and "education administration."
"This job sucks, I don't want to do it anymore. Therefore, I should go into management" is not really an optimal business practice either.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (oN30K)
Ditto for teaching (Miss Crabtree) and "education administration."
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (Aqu9a)
149
I know, I'm not talking about you, I mean online commentators who should know better.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (Z048x)
Yes.. Some seem to be having nervous breakdowns... Full of suggestions for Trump
I know, I'm not talking about you, I mean online commentators who should know better.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (Z048x)
Yes.. Some seem to be having nervous breakdowns... Full of suggestions for Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (IyPmt)
150
NASA’s directive is to cut out Space X no matter the cost.
Posted by: Oglebay at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (pTv5j)
151
>>> 129
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I got to thinking about Anti-icing systems because of the recent unpleasantness in Brazil the other day.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (oN30K)
Huh, I didn't even consider that yeah, it's *winter* in the southern hemisphere.
==
I got to thinking about Anti-icing systems because of the recent unpleasantness in Brazil the other day.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 12:43 PM (oN30K)
Huh, I didn't even consider that yeah, it's *winter* in the southern hemisphere.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (FnneF)
152
You know who called Kamala Harras a bitch in public?
Of all people!!!!
Well, at least one person thought her remark was funny and clever. Too bad it was the person who made the remark.
Of all people!!!!
Well, at least one person thought her remark was funny and clever. Too bad it was the person who made the remark.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (xCA6C)
153
118
All you're gonna find in the "news" is glowing stories about the "Joyful" Harris campaign and the weird creepy Trump campaign
Posted by: It's me donna at August
I was thinking about this today. The Harris campaign is worried about the cackle, so they rebrand it as being joyful. And now we hear joyful nonstop. We are weird, they are joyful. Truth is, we are systematic and make decisions based on facts, they fly by the seat of their pants on feelings and emotions. Journalists and media are garbage. I don’t even know where I am going with this- I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems. But so does everyone else here, and I don’t even know how to get there.
All you're gonna find in the "news" is glowing stories about the "Joyful" Harris campaign and the weird creepy Trump campaign
Posted by: It's me donna at August
I was thinking about this today. The Harris campaign is worried about the cackle, so they rebrand it as being joyful. And now we hear joyful nonstop. We are weird, they are joyful. Truth is, we are systematic and make decisions based on facts, they fly by the seat of their pants on feelings and emotions. Journalists and media are garbage. I don’t even know where I am going with this- I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems. But so does everyone else here, and I don’t even know how to get there.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:53 PM (pZEOD)
154
do they know, or have they bee paid off
shes the same (redacted) she has always been, she can't string two centers, with chewing gum
shes the same (redacted) she has always been, she can't string two centers, with chewing gum
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:53 PM (PXvVL)
155
Someone on the ONT (IIRC) was pointing out that photographs of her campaign events have crowds but no reflections in mirrored surfaces, and too many arms on some of the people. AI generated propaganda.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (mIykB)
I wouldn't doubt it.
There was a narrative this past week, she was in the same building Trump had been in, and the angle they showed seemed to show her rally (was it the one where they had the twerking rappers?) was full, and his was half empty.
Then it turned out they showed a photo of Trump's, before the crowd came in, and later video showed the place full to the rafters.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 12:44 PM (mIykB)
I wouldn't doubt it.
There was a narrative this past week, she was in the same building Trump had been in, and the angle they showed seemed to show her rally (was it the one where they had the twerking rappers?) was full, and his was half empty.
Then it turned out they showed a photo of Trump's, before the crowd came in, and later video showed the place full to the rafters.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:53 PM (Z048x)
156
NASA’s directive is to cut out Space X no matter the cost.
Probably, that's why they've been fighting so hard against a Space X rescue. However, I think it's going to be increasingly untenable. They just look so bad.
Probably, that's why they've been fighting so hard against a Space X rescue. However, I think it's going to be increasingly untenable. They just look so bad.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (xCA6C)
157
It seems like every big American corporation eventually starts to resemble the federal government.
It's their role model. An infinite budget that goes on and on forever.
It seems like every big American corporation eventually starts to resemble the federal government.
It's their role model. An infinite budget that goes on and on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (63Dwl)
158
144 The trick that most managers fail at is knowing the contract better than the workers and their stewards.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August
If I ever caught a manger without their CBA, it was a bad day for them. That thing better be earmarked, written in, etc etc.
One off the uglier things I did was stop printing pocket sized CBAs. If the union wanted those, they could print them themselves.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August
If I ever caught a manger without their CBA, it was a bad day for them. That thing better be earmarked, written in, etc etc.
One off the uglier things I did was stop printing pocket sized CBAs. If the union wanted those, they could print them themselves.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:55 PM (pZEOD)
159
Yes.. Some seem to be having nervous breakdowns... Full of suggestions for Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (IyPmt)
Yeah, it's pretty funny hearing people say "you know, Trump would be doing a lot better if only he would be... oh, I don't know, less Trumpy."
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 12:52 PM (IyPmt)
Yeah, it's pretty funny hearing people say "you know, Trump would be doing a lot better if only he would be... oh, I don't know, less Trumpy."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:55 PM (Z048x)
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)
161
That one pic allegedly of a Harris rally with a guy that appears to have 4 hands.... No one in that pic looks happy.
You just AI up a picture of a political rally full of duplicate people and rando aliens with extra limbs and everyone looks miserable. Really? You couldn't take two more seconds to input "happy rally goers" ?
You just AI up a picture of a political rally full of duplicate people and rando aliens with extra limbs and everyone looks miserable. Really? You couldn't take two more seconds to input "happy rally goers" ?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (4XwPj)
162
I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
163
sentences together,
what's she laughing about the crime the inflation, the collapse of public health, caused by both,
what's she laughing about the crime the inflation, the collapse of public health, caused by both,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (PXvVL)
164
I started working for a mid-size systems integration company in 2009, it had a pretty well thought out and robust custom built ERP system, it was built by a small dev team, probably 6 guys in total between programmers and database guys, took two years to build, loved it, the company was gobbled up by a larger SI in 2016, the new company didn't have an ERP system, instead it had a mish mash of off the shelf software and processes, it briefly considered using the legacy ERP system from the old company, but didn't because, f**k you, we're a bigger company, we're smarter and we'll create something even betterer.
Flash forward 8 years, through many development teams, regimes and leaders and the new system that was supposed to be rolled out next month has been now delayed till early 2025.
I think it's being delayed so the people responsible for this fiasco can locate some golden parachutes and scope out a soft landing.
Flash forward 8 years, through many development teams, regimes and leaders and the new system that was supposed to be rolled out next month has been now delayed till early 2025.
I think it's being delayed so the people responsible for this fiasco can locate some golden parachutes and scope out a soft landing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (XV/Pl)
165
>>> 156 NASA's directive is to cut out Space X no matter the cost.
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Probably, that's why they've been fighting so hard against a Space X rescue. However, I think it's going to be increasingly untenable. They just look so bad.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (xCA6C)
I hope the asshoe bureaucrats doing this will be haunted by the Challenger and Columbia crews.
==
Probably, that's why they've been fighting so hard against a Space X rescue. However, I think it's going to be increasingly untenable. They just look so bad.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (xCA6C)
I hope the asshoe bureaucrats doing this will be haunted by the Challenger and Columbia crews.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (FnneF)
166
162
I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August
Even if they slightly pretended. 1950?
I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August
Even if they slightly pretended. 1950?
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)
168
Boeing received the contract for the capsule ten years ago. How many billions of our dollars has it consumed? Boeing has put some of its money into it. Boeing is operating at at loss on this project. Boeing should be dumped, freaking Bezos (in name only) is doing a better job.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2024 12:58 PM (6TYi0)
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Daily Mail continues to shill for Kamala:
Americans trust Kamala Harris much more than Joe Biden to handle the No. 1 issue in the 2024 election, a new poll reveals.
Democrats are seeing a major boost in who registered voters want in charge of the economy after Harris took over the president's 2024 campaign.
And now, the vice president has even pulled ahead of former President Donald Trump in this metric
Americans trust Kamala Harris much more than Joe Biden to handle the No. 1 issue in the 2024 election, a new poll reveals.
Democrats are seeing a major boost in who registered voters want in charge of the economy after Harris took over the president's 2024 campaign.
And now, the vice president has even pulled ahead of former President Donald Trump in this metric
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:59 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 11, 2024 12:59 PM (E3oJ+)
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I don’t even know where I am going with this- I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems. But so does everyone else here, and I don’t even know how to get there.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:53 PM (pZEOD)
In order to do that, you'd have to go far far far back, long before television.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:53 PM (pZEOD)
In order to do that, you'd have to go far far far back, long before television.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 12:59 PM (Z048x)
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Then it turned out they showed a photo of Trump's, before the crowd came in, and later video showed the place full to the rafters.
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Every passing day it looks more likely that the string pullers were behind the assassination attempt. They are shameless and will do anything, what's a few lies to them to photoshop for their cackling empty-headed proto-figurehead.
If citizens get any chance whatsoever to declassify a mass amount of stuff the government has deemed over the decades to be never to be seen by the public, it needs to be done. Not sure how many second chances are left.
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Every passing day it looks more likely that the string pullers were behind the assassination attempt. They are shameless and will do anything, what's a few lies to them to photoshop for their cackling empty-headed proto-figurehead.
If citizens get any chance whatsoever to declassify a mass amount of stuff the government has deemed over the decades to be never to be seen by the public, it needs to be done. Not sure how many second chances are left.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (fs1hN)
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I do wonder to what extent NASA/Boeing's space program performance has been hurt by Elon hiring the best people for (probably) more money. Sure, he works them like mules, but it's their choice to be there.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (xCA6C)
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Maybe companies should consider promoting engineers to management even if they don’t have MBAs
Posted by: Oglebay at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (pTv5j)
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (pZEOD)
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It seems like every big American corporation eventually starts to resemble the federal government.
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It's their role model. An infinite budget that goes on and on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (63Dwl)
It's almost like a fascist state will eventually corrupt and control all business.
Almost.
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It's their role model. An infinite budget that goes on and on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:54 PM (63Dwl)
It's almost like a fascist state will eventually corrupt and control all business.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:01 PM (Z048x)
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Democrats are seeing a major boost in who registered voters want in charge of the economy after Harris took over the president's 2024 campaign.
And now, the vice president has even pulled ahead of former President Donald Trump in this metric
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:59 PM (/7KEl)
I call BS on that one... By the way, she's been in "charge" of the economy for 3 and a half years
And now, the vice president has even pulled ahead of former President Donald Trump in this metric
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 12:59 PM (/7KEl)
I call BS on that one... By the way, she's been in "charge" of the economy for 3 and a half years
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:01 PM (IyPmt)
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162
I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
Even in the 80’s there were still some pretty big regional newspapers that had a fairly conservaricella outlook, along with the WSJ. What really killed everything was when the industry collapsed to where only 3 or 4 corps control all of the media in the country, and the Deep State controls all of them.
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I want to take our media back to being something other than a marketing team for Dems.
When was that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
Even in the 80’s there were still some pretty big regional newspapers that had a fairly conservaricella outlook, along with the WSJ. What really killed everything was when the industry collapsed to where only 3 or 4 corps control all of the media in the country, and the Deep State controls all of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:02 PM (F/xk0)
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My father was the President of the local IAM and would basically agree with your general premise. His only caveat is management will always evolve to being assholes with few exceptions.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (B1dzx)
Spoiler: corpo management and union management are generally assholes.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 12:36 PM (B1dzx)
Spoiler: corpo management and union management are generally assholes.
Posted by: Young man, it's assholes all the way down at August 11, 2024 01:02 PM (q1Zxb)
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I assume the Russians could do a rescue because of course their ships can use the docks if they have a ship available.
Putin is waiting for someone to come hat in hand to ask. That's why it won't happen.
Is there some kind of ISS agreement?
Putin is waiting for someone to come hat in hand to ask. That's why it won't happen.
Is there some kind of ISS agreement?
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 01:03 PM (B1dzx)
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I am betting more Trump will get booked in Rykrrs next month
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 01:03 PM (fwDg9)
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Wow autocorrect does really weird things. I wonder what Skylet is up to.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:03 PM (F/xk0)
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Posted by: Young man, it's assholes all the way down at August 11, 2024 01:02 PM (q1Zxb)
I don't know about spoiler. More like obvious.
I don't know about spoiler. More like obvious.
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 01:04 PM (B1dzx)
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Afternoon.
Do those astronauts still stuck on the space station?
Maybe time to launch a GoFundMe to send up some fresh underwear?
Do those astronauts still stuck on the space station?
Maybe time to launch a GoFundMe to send up some fresh underwear?
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:04 PM (MWBxy)
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174 Maybe companies should consider promoting engineers to management even if they don’t have MBAs
Posted by: Oglebay at August 11, 2024
Many do, and you would be surprised at how many have MBAs.
Posted by: Oglebay at August 11, 2024
Many do, and you would be surprised at how many have MBAs.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:04 PM (pZEOD)
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How fitting. Skynet objected to me using its name and changed it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:04 PM (F/xk0)
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173 I do wonder to what extent NASA/Boeing's space program performance has been hurt by Elon hiring the best people for (probably) more money. Sure, he works them like mules, but it's their choice to be there.
Posted by: Archimedes
Who wouldn't want to work for Musk? Sure there's a ton of pressure to perform, but innovation is about thinking outside the box, making mistakes and learning from them. Those folks have the freedom to fail. And then fail again. And then make it work. It's astounding. He has the engineers working in the same space as the people putting the projects together.
Posted by: Archimedes
Who wouldn't want to work for Musk? Sure there's a ton of pressure to perform, but innovation is about thinking outside the box, making mistakes and learning from them. Those folks have the freedom to fail. And then fail again. And then make it work. It's astounding. He has the engineers working in the same space as the people putting the projects together.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 11, 2024 01:05 PM (7/VSu)
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JD Vance for the kill:
https://tinyurl.com/dxtcryr9
I think he's getting better with every interview, and that's coming from a very high baseline. Dana Bash was clearly frustrated that her attacks were so easily parried.
https://tinyurl.com/dxtcryr9
I think he's getting better with every interview, and that's coming from a very high baseline. Dana Bash was clearly frustrated that her attacks were so easily parried.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (xCA6C)
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SpaceX is now the preeminent space launch organization on the planet.
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
You answered your own question.
And all without a robust DEI program! How did they do it?
You answered your own question.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (8KZLC)
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There was a funny meme with two heavy, black Rosie the Riveter womyn.
The tagline was "Boeing. We Make Planes and Shit!"
The tagline was "Boeing. We Make Planes and Shit!"
Posted by: Stateless at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (jvJvP)
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I call BS on that one... By the way, she's been in "charge" of the economy for 3 and a half years
Posted by: It's me donna
Agreed. I'm getting hammered with her ads on YouTube and YTTV here in CA. The most laughable one paints her as a champion of the middle class here to fight for a better economy for working people.
It's an offensive lie on its face, but they're spending a lot of ad money in a non battleground stare to put it out there.
Posted by: It's me donna
Agreed. I'm getting hammered with her ads on YouTube and YTTV here in CA. The most laughable one paints her as a champion of the middle class here to fight for a better economy for working people.
It's an offensive lie on its face, but they're spending a lot of ad money in a non battleground stare to put it out there.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (hCzfy)
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>>> 181 I am betting more Trump will get booked in Rykrrs next month
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 01:03 PM (fwDg9)
The original sentencing date was July 11th, two days before "somebody" tried to kill him, and istr the move was announced in early July. Still a few weeks to go before the new sentencing date, plenty of time forRussia Iran to try something.
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 01:03 PM (fwDg9)
The original sentencing date was July 11th, two days before "somebody" tried to kill him, and istr the move was announced in early July. Still a few weeks to go before the new sentencing date, plenty of time for
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (FnneF)
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If citizens get any chance whatsoever to declassify a mass amount of stuff the government has deemed over the decades to be never to be seen by the public, it needs to be done. Not sure how many second chances are left.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (fs1hN)
I know Trump threatened to declassify stuff, then he backed off from it.
I suspect that's due to people like Pompeo being in his ear, telling him not to. He needs to surround himself with people who have NO connection to the Deep State, if he's going to be able to do that.
If they don't kill him before he gets elected, that is.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 01:00 PM (fs1hN)
I know Trump threatened to declassify stuff, then he backed off from it.
I suspect that's due to people like Pompeo being in his ear, telling him not to. He needs to surround himself with people who have NO connection to the Deep State, if he's going to be able to do that.
If they don't kill him before he gets elected, that is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:06 PM (YWhxe)
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Of course Kamala is anti-child.
She advocates for killing babies before they are born.
Dana Bash is a scowling, godless commie harridan.
She advocates for killing babies before they are born.
Dana Bash is a scowling, godless commie harridan.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 01:07 PM (ufFY8)
195
Elon should paint a big orange stripe across the rescue capsule with the name US Space Guard.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:08 PM (W/lyH)
196
Have y'all seen the new Raptor 3 engine? It lost about 75kilos of ... err ... unsprung weight per engine. Across what, 32 engines on the big rocket, adds up to more cargo.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 11, 2024 01:08 PM (8KZLC)
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JD Vance for the kill:
https://tinyurl.com/dxtcryr9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
Whole 'nother level !
https://tinyurl.com/dxtcryr9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
Whole 'nother level !
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2024 01:08 PM (V13WU)
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Every passing day it looks more likely that the string pullers were behind the assassination attempt.
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A month has passed and we know nothing, and the agencies involved require subpoenas before saying "I don't recall."
So yes, it requires a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory level of wacky belief to think otherwise.
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A month has passed and we know nothing, and the agencies involved require subpoenas before saying "I don't recall."
So yes, it requires a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory level of wacky belief to think otherwise.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (mIykB)
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Dana Bash is a scowling, godless commie harridan.
She looks like her face is melting while she interviews JD.
She looks like her face is melting while she interviews JD.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (xCA6C)
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>If citizens get any chance whatsoever to declassify a mass amount of stuff the government has deemed over the decades to be never to be seen by the public, it needs to be done. Not sure how many second chances are left.
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let justice be done though the heavens fall
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let justice be done though the heavens fall
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (/7KEl)
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Circa 1994 a lot of defense contractors stopped hiring for ~15 years, thanks to Billy Jeff's "peace dividend."
What your seeing now is simple demographics and what happens when you run out of "50 year old white guys."
Damn patriarchy.
What your seeing now is simple demographics and what happens when you run out of "50 year old white guys."
Damn patriarchy.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 11, 2024 01:10 PM (dg+HA)
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*you're
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 11, 2024 01:10 PM (dg+HA)
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I'm getting hammered with her ads on YouTube and YTTV here in CA. The most laughable one paints her as a champion of the middle class here to fight for a better economy for working people.
She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
I'm getting hammered with her ads on YouTube and YTTV here in CA. The most laughable one paints her as a champion of the middle class here to fight for a better economy for working people.
She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
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everytime you click on her ads it costs her money,
but if people are dissociated from their present condition, you can't help them,
but if people are dissociated from their present condition, you can't help them,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (PXvVL)
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>>> 98 Every passing day it looks more likely that the string pullers were behind the assassination attempt.
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A month has passed and we know nothing, and the agencies involved require subpoenas before saying "I don't recall."
So yes, it requires a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory level of wacky belief to think otherwise.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (mIykB)
I have not seen any indication that ANY normal crime scene securing and investigating was done. NOTHING.
But we did see the Eff.Bee.EYE on the skeery sloped roof hosing shit down, so there's that.
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A month has passed and we know nothing, and the agencies involved require subpoenas before saying "I don't recall."
So yes, it requires a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory level of wacky belief to think otherwise.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (mIykB)
I have not seen any indication that ANY normal crime scene securing and investigating was done. NOTHING.
But we did see the Eff.Bee.EYE on the skeery sloped roof hosing shit down, so there's that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (FnneF)
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She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (IyPmt)
207
Even in the 80’s there were still some pretty big regional newspapers that had a fairly conservaricella outlook, along with the WSJ. What really killed everything was when the industry collapsed to where only 3 or 4 corps control all of the media in the country, and the Deep State controls all of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:02 PM (F/xk0)
Sure, but in the 70s the CIA carried out a coup against a sitting President, in large part due to their control over the Washington Post.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:02 PM (F/xk0)
Sure, but in the 70s the CIA carried out a coup against a sitting President, in large part due to their control over the Washington Post.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:12 PM (09WBQ)
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In childish, but funny, news, Adam Kinzinger got sassy with Lil Pump who then published what looks like a Grind’r profile belonging to Adam. Are they his? Not sure. But the guy has the same bracelets…
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:12 PM (pZEOD)
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If a Republican drops the truth about the Left and no MSM are in the Woods does it make a sound?
Posted by: polynikes at August 11, 2024 01:12 PM (B1dzx)
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But if tips aren’t taxed they won’t be included in calculating social security benefits!!!
Posted by: Oglebay at August 11, 2024 01:12 PM (pTv5j)
211
198, not 98
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:12 PM (FnneF)
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I have not seen any indication that ANY normal crime scene securing and investigating was done. NOTHING.
But we did see the Eff.Bee.EYE on the skeery sloped roof hosing shit down, so there's that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Yep. IIRC they had a garden hose out within an hour.
But we did see the Eff.Bee.EYE on the skeery sloped roof hosing shit down, so there's that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Yep. IIRC they had a garden hose out within an hour.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:13 PM (mIykB)
213
I mowed the lawn. I kept looking over at the new door. Even out at the road one can see that it is purple. Yup! Perfect in your face color
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:13 PM (4XwPj)
214
Boeing may be failing at production quality, but they excel at checking employee lockers for objects that might offend somebody. You will not have a picture of a woman in your locker because it might offend a woman walking by who sees it. It does not have to be NSFW to be offensive. A nice head shot is too much.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:14 PM (ANFY9)
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Yeah, I am getting metric fucktons of ads for Kumala. But, also a number if ads from some close the border PAC slamming the kneepad wearing, ladder-climbing, Indian (dot), lazy, incompetent, cackling, godless commie, baby killing grifter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY8)
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>>> 214 Boeing may be failing at production quality, but they excel at checking employee lockers for objects that might offend somebody. You will not have a picture of a woman in your locker because it might offend a woman walking by who sees it. It does not have to be NSFW to be offensive. A nice head shot is too much.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:14 PM (ANFY9)
Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:14 PM (ANFY9)
Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (FnneF)
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I'm beginning to think the woman on the horse was crucial because she and her animal were large enough to be easily seen from a distance to let everyone know the game had started.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (mIykB)
218
Yeah, I am getting metric fucktons of ads for Kumala. But, also a number if ads from some close the border PAC slamming the kneepad wearing, ladder-climbing, Indian (dot), lazy, incompetent, cackling, godless commie, baby killing grifter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY
If they used that description I will send them money.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (ufFY
If they used that description I will send them money.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (8KZLC)
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Dana Bash is a scowling, godless commie harridan.
She looks like her face is melting while she interviews JD.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (xCA6C)
***
Someone should tell her the power red dress ain't doing it for her.
She looks like her face is melting while she interviews JD.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:09 PM (xCA6C)
***
Someone should tell her the power red dress ain't doing it for her.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (W/lyH)
220
then their priorities are wrong,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (PXvVL)
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213 I mowed the lawn. I kept looking over at the new door. Even out at the road one can see that it is purple. Yup! Perfect in your face color
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:13 PM (4XwPj)
We have a drab beige house so I wanted to spice it up with a colorful front door.. I considered aubergine but went with burnt orange.. Looks good
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:13 PM (4XwPj)
We have a drab beige house so I wanted to spice it up with a colorful front door.. I considered aubergine but went with burnt orange.. Looks good
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (IyPmt)
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I have not seen any indication that ANY normal crime scene securing and investigating was done. NOTHING.
They must have called Canton, MA and got advice from the McAlberts and Troopah Proctor.
They must have called Canton, MA and got advice from the McAlberts and Troopah Proctor.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 11, 2024 01:17 PM (ufFY8)
223
Hamilton was largely based on a hughes type, minus the germophobia,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (PXvVL)
Howard Hughes could rap?
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 12:40 PM (PXvVL)
Howard Hughes could rap?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:17 PM (D7oie)
224
Profits, costs v. safety, even as per the Federal government.
A tiny part of the OIG report, "Quality control issues at Michoud are largely due to the lack of a sufficient number of trained and experienced aerospace workers at Boeing. To mitigate these challenges, Boeing provides training and work orders to its employees. Considering the significant quality control deficiencies at Michoud, we found these efforts to be inadequate. For example, during our visit to Michoud in April 2023, we observed a liquid oxygen fuel tank dome—a critical component of the SLS Core Stage 3—segregated and pending disposition on whether and how it can safely be used going forward due to welds that did not meet NASA specifications. According to NASA officials, the welding issues arose due to Boeing’s inexperienced technicians and inadequate work order planning and supervision. The lack of a trained and qualified workforce increases the risk that Boeing will continue to manufacture parts and components that do not adhere to NASA requirements and industry standards."
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Remember, too, The Boeing Global organization.
And despite the US gov's plethora of employer S&H programs, it's different inside.
A tiny part of the OIG report, "Quality control issues at Michoud are largely due to the lack of a sufficient number of trained and experienced aerospace workers at Boeing. To mitigate these challenges, Boeing provides training and work orders to its employees. Considering the significant quality control deficiencies at Michoud, we found these efforts to be inadequate. For example, during our visit to Michoud in April 2023, we observed a liquid oxygen fuel tank dome—a critical component of the SLS Core Stage 3—segregated and pending disposition on whether and how it can safely be used going forward due to welds that did not meet NASA specifications. According to NASA officials, the welding issues arose due to Boeing’s inexperienced technicians and inadequate work order planning and supervision. The lack of a trained and qualified workforce increases the risk that Boeing will continue to manufacture parts and components that do not adhere to NASA requirements and industry standards."
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Remember, too, The Boeing Global organization.
And despite the US gov's plethora of employer S&H programs, it's different inside.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:17 PM (NFX2v)
225
206 She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August
The Dems may wish to start embracing Agenda 47 after all!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August
The Dems may wish to start embracing Agenda 47 after all!
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:18 PM (p4NUW)
226
Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (FnneF)
Me: Why yes, there is a picture of my daughter in my locker.
Them: Posed for Playboy, did she?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (FnneF)
Me: Why yes, there is a picture of my daughter in my locker.
Them: Posed for Playboy, did she?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (09WBQ)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (ufFY8)
228
Boeing may be failing at production quality, but they excel at checking employee lockers for objects that might offend somebody. You will not have a picture of a woman in your locker because it might offend a woman walking by who sees it. It does not have to be NSFW to be offensive. A nice head shot is too much.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:14 PM (ANFY9)
Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (FnneF)
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Heh. I bet it was the offended woman's daughter.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:14 PM (ANFY9)
Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM (FnneF)
***
Heh. I bet it was the offended woman's daughter.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (W/lyH)
229
Howard Hughes could rap?
Posted by: Kindltot
Lived in a hotel, never wore Crocs,
Slipped his feet inside a Kleenex box.
Posted by: Kindltot
Lived in a hotel, never wore Crocs,
Slipped his feet inside a Kleenex box.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2024 01:20 PM (4Med0)
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She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August
The Dems may wish to start embracing Agenda 47 after all!
If they endorse Project 2025, I may consider voting for them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August
The Dems may wish to start embracing Agenda 47 after all!
If they endorse Project 2025, I may consider voting for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:20 PM (xCA6C)
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What if it's a picture of Rosie the Riveter?
Posted by: fd at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (vFG9F)
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Heh. I bet it was the offended woman's daughter.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (W/lyH)
Bring back the Snap-On tools calendar.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (W/lyH)
Bring back the Snap-On tools calendar.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (xCA6C)
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We have a drab beige house so I wanted to spice it up with a colorful front door.. I considered aubergine but went with burnt orange.. Looks good
Posted by: It's me donna
Atta girl! When I read beige I thought ORANGE! Glad I guessed it right!
Hubbymayhem is such a wonderful man. He saw the color I picked, it's called Perfectly Purple by Glidden, and said are you sure? I said yes I'm sure. He said, then let's do this shit! Some men would complain or refuse to have a purple door on th front of their house. Hubbymayhem just let me run with it.
Posted by: It's me donna
Atta girl! When I read beige I thought ORANGE! Glad I guessed it right!
Hubbymayhem is such a wonderful man. He saw the color I picked, it's called Perfectly Purple by Glidden, and said are you sure? I said yes I'm sure. He said, then let's do this shit! Some men would complain or refuse to have a purple door on th front of their house. Hubbymayhem just let me run with it.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (4XwPj)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:22 PM (3wi/L)
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What if it's a picture of Kamala?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (xCA6C)
With a Schnitzengruberin her craw, making an Indian (dot) spectacle of herself...
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (xCA6C)
With a Schnitzengruberin her craw, making an Indian (dot) spectacle of herself...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (ufFY8)
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228 Mozart Requim
Well, he was a poon hound, so...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (ufFY
I think that was made up for the Amadeus stage play slash movie.
Well, he was a poon hound, so...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:19 PM (ufFY
I think that was made up for the Amadeus stage play slash movie.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (MWBxy)
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236 75
'Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private'
If the Bitch fits wear it
'Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private'
If the Bitch fits wear it
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (IyPmt)
Posted by: Dalton at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (4Med0)
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QUESTION: Who chairs the US National Space Council?
ANSWER: US Vice President Kamal Harris
This is not a joke
YT LINK to Harris speaking as part of her Space Council work:
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/bdfhpnhz
ANSWER: US Vice President Kamal Harris
This is not a joke
YT LINK to Harris speaking as part of her Space Council work:
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/bdfhpnhz
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (rj6Yv)
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236 75
'Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private'
Well?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:22 PM (3wi/L)
This just in, Robert calls Kamala a useless cvnting whore publicly.
'Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private'
Well?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:22 PM (3wi/L)
This just in, Robert calls Kamala a useless cvnting whore publicly.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (MWBxy)
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We have a drab beige house so I wanted to spice it up with a colorful front door.. I considered aubergine but went with burnt orange.. Looks good
Posted by: It's me donna
Atta girl! When I read beige I thought ORANGE! Glad I guessed it right!
Hubbymayhem is such a wonderful man. He saw the color I picked, it's called Perfectly Purple by Glidden, and said are you sure? I said yes I'm sure. He said, then let's do this shit! Some men would complain or refuse to have a purple door on th front of their house. Hubbymayhem just let me run with it.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (4XwPj)
***
You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: It's me donna
Atta girl! When I read beige I thought ORANGE! Glad I guessed it right!
Hubbymayhem is such a wonderful man. He saw the color I picked, it's called Perfectly Purple by Glidden, and said are you sure? I said yes I'm sure. He said, then let's do this shit! Some men would complain or refuse to have a purple door on th front of their house. Hubbymayhem just let me run with it.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:21 PM (4XwPj)
***
You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
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I wonder what the Kamala calls Trump in private.
Posted by: fd at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (vFG9F)
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well Requiem was composed when he was at death's door,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (PXvVL)
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I think that was made up for the Amadeus stage play slash movie.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (MWBxy)
You are probably correct.
I was making a typo joke.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:23 PM (MWBxy)
You are probably correct.
I was making a typo joke.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (ufFY8)
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'Trump has repeatedly called @KamalaHarris a "bitch" in private'
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They get furious if you turn Easy Mode down even 5%
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They get furious if you turn Easy Mode down even 5%
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (mIykB)
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was Mozart as much a carouser as the play suggests probably, not as much as the story tells,
Posted by: no 6 at August 11, 2024 01:26 PM (PXvVL)
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When "quim" is mentioned, even in error, one must jump on it!
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:26 PM (ufFY8)
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I wonder what the Kamala calls Trump in private.
Posted by: fd at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (vFG9F)
By the time he's done with her Kamala is going to call Trump "Daddy."
Posted by: fd at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (vFG9F)
By the time he's done with her Kamala is going to call Trump "Daddy."
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:27 PM (MWBxy)
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You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Begging your pardon, your grace. We grew up with a rock rolled in front of our cave. We asked our parents to stop doing it, but they didn't listen.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Begging your pardon, your grace. We grew up with a rock rolled in front of our cave. We asked our parents to stop doing it, but they didn't listen.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:27 PM (xCA6C)
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You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes
You had a rock? Wow.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes
You had a rock? Wow.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:27 PM (p4NUW)
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We have a drab beige house so I wanted to spice it up with a colorful front door.. I considered aubergine but went with burnt orange.. Looks good
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (IyPmt)
Bright yellow picnic table on our corner lot backyard.
Sherwin Williams Cheerful yellow. Looks good.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:16 PM (IyPmt)
Bright yellow picnic table on our corner lot backyard.
Sherwin Williams Cheerful yellow. Looks good.
Posted by: Stateless at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (jvJvP)
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I see your blue door and you'd better paint it black.
Posted by: Mick Jagger, HOA president at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (63Dwl)
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But, how have they been doing with Muslim outreach? Because, that's really the important thing.
Posted by: Mike Hame, etc., etc. at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (XeU6L)
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Anyone here use Discord?
Am I missing something or is it sort of like the HQ in that it's just a long and continuous stream-of-consciousness HQ thread with no real beginning?
Am I missing something or is it sort of like the HQ in that it's just a long and continuous stream-of-consciousness HQ thread with no real beginning?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (mIykB)
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You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes
You’re a high-roller. We had a plastic shower curtain.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes
You’re a high-roller. We had a plastic shower curtain.
Posted by: Dalton at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (4Med0)
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grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes
You lived in our tree house? I told them there was someone living up there!!! Did they listen? No! And then one day Dad looked in there and started tearing it down the next day. Sorry about that.
Posted by: Diogenes
You lived in our tree house? I told them there was someone living up there!!! Did they listen? No! And then one day Dad looked in there and started tearing it down the next day. Sorry about that.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:28 PM (4XwPj)
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94 Part of the poison of Boeing culture that has nothing to do with DEI (which only makes things worse) is a system of incentives that rewards short-term thinkers… if I saw it once I saw it a thousand times…. An ambitious project manager who generated all sorts of initiatives and flashy PowerPoint slides to be noticed…. Who move on to their next assignment (a promotion) and leave behind wreckage that isn’t noticed until later.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Absolutely. The management philosophy of the government, too, and probably as the originators.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Absolutely. The management philosophy of the government, too, and probably as the originators.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (NFX2v)
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I think the Amadeus recording really was the best it has ever been done, and that being my introduction I am often disappointed to hear it with a different tempo or mix. Warsaw philharmonic is very good.
Dude at 10:00 or so really likes to roll his R's.
Dude at 10:00 or so really likes to roll his R's.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (xCA6C)
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10 Those guys stuck up in space must love Boeing. It's like a months long layover stuck in a Greyhound bus.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:07 PM (L/fGl)
Wonder what their PAYCHECK is going to look like when they get back...
Lots of overtime there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 12:07 PM (L/fGl)
Wonder what their PAYCHECK is going to look like when they get back...
Lots of overtime there.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (xaFKb)
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214 Let me guess, it was a picture of your wife? or daughter?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM
It happened to my brother. He is a movie geek and it was a head shot of an actress. He would never have posted something that would offend. He was incredulous.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 01:15 PM
It happened to my brother. He is a movie geek and it was a head shot of an actress. He would never have posted something that would offend. He was incredulous.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (ANFY9)
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You are probably correct.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (ufFY
Now wait just a damn min...oh. Oh. You said I was right. Oh. No one ever says that. This is...this is such a weird feeling. I don't know what to do now. :B
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 11, 2024 01:25 PM (ufFY
Now wait just a damn min...oh. Oh. You said I was right. Oh. No one ever says that. This is...this is such a weird feeling. I don't know what to do now. :B
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:30 PM (MWBxy)
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Discord isn't so bad. Twitter, on a smart phone? I can't make head nor tails of the threads, sometimes. Or at least my replies, or getting back to the thread once I leave.
It's like a Firehose of stuff. Some pretty good, but jeeze
It's like a Firehose of stuff. Some pretty good, but jeeze
Posted by: Common Tater at August 11, 2024 01:30 PM (oN30K)
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"It happened to my brother. He is a movie geek and it was a head shot of an actress. He would never have posted something that would offend. He was incredulous.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add"
One of those Soviet style "Workers Forward!" posters would probably be more appropriate.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add"
One of those Soviet style "Workers Forward!" posters would probably be more appropriate.
Posted by: fd at August 11, 2024 01:31 PM (vFG9F)
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And here we go…Kamala is starting to talk. It can only help us.
Kamala says too many civilian deaths in Palestine.
https://tinyurl.com/2mjbasrk
Kamala says too many civilian deaths in Palestine.
https://tinyurl.com/2mjbasrk
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (p4NUW)
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140 >>> 120 I have seen really amazing companies fall apart because of the short term thinking. It’s maddening. And maybe the companies are still there, but the culture, the passion, it’s decimated.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)
I think I see the problem...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (FnneF)
CBD, if this is the company that I'm thinking of, it's only doubled in the last 25 years. Domino's went public in 2004 and went up over 40x in the meantime.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 12:29 PM (pZEOD)
I worked for one for a long time. It was great, then it went public and in 25 years has completely destroyed its corporate culture. Shockingly, it is not nearly as profitable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)
I think I see the problem...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 11, 2024 12:50 PM (FnneF)
CBD, if this is the company that I'm thinking of, it's only doubled in the last 25 years. Domino's went public in 2004 and went up over 40x in the meantime.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (2zbvG)
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Now wait just a damn min...oh. Oh. You said I was right. Oh. No one ever says that. This is...this is such a weird feeling. I don't know what to do now. :B
Posted by: Robert
Put your head down and apply this cold compress to your neck. The dizziness should subside soon.
Posted by: Robert
Put your head down and apply this cold compress to your neck. The dizziness should subside soon.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (4XwPj)
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Discord isn't so bad.
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I'm just trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Is it just one continuous thread?
-
I'm just trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Is it just one continuous thread?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (mIykB)
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I prefer Ho but so what?
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)
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“Harris’ National Security Advisor, Phil Gordon, however, said Harris does not support an arms embargo against Israel.
He added that “she will continue to work to protect civilians in Gaza and to uphold international humanitarian law.”
International humanitarian law?
He added that “she will continue to work to protect civilians in Gaza and to uphold international humanitarian law.”
International humanitarian law?
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:33 PM (p4NUW)
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Late entry:
Hey, CBD, you asked this question in the last thread:
Anyone read Don Winslow?
He is a rancid leftist, but the guy can write.
I am torn...
Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 11, 2024 11:27 AM (d9fT1)
I started reading Don Winslow back in the 90s starting with, "California Fire and Life"- a great mystery/thriller by the way if you haven't read it.
And stuck with him for years. He became one of my faves. Every book I read by him was excellent, until-
"Savages", which was just a complete slobbering blowjob of Obama. Though it had nothing to do with the story, Winslow constantly dumped his political opinions into the novel. Complete cringing cuckery for Obama.
He totally lost my respect and I stopped reading him.
Though to be fair, he's supposed to still be writing excellent novels. Don't care. I no longer have any respect for him as a writer. He thinks being a Dim propagandist is more important.
YMMV.
Hey, CBD, you asked this question in the last thread:
Anyone read Don Winslow?
He is a rancid leftist, but the guy can write.
I am torn...
Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 11, 2024 11:27 AM (d9fT1)
I started reading Don Winslow back in the 90s starting with, "California Fire and Life"- a great mystery/thriller by the way if you haven't read it.
And stuck with him for years. He became one of my faves. Every book I read by him was excellent, until-
"Savages", which was just a complete slobbering blowjob of Obama. Though it had nothing to do with the story, Winslow constantly dumped his political opinions into the novel. Complete cringing cuckery for Obama.
He totally lost my respect and I stopped reading him.
Though to be fair, he's supposed to still be writing excellent novels. Don't care. I no longer have any respect for him as a writer. He thinks being a Dim propagandist is more important.
YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2024 01:33 PM (eDfFs)
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There used to be equal access laws, where they had to give time for opposing viewpoints. And they used to have to get licenses to use the public airways. Not sure what they've done with that, but seems like we should review to see how we can apply it to today
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2024 01:34 PM (dDSBl)
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Different topic (which seems like it's ok at this point in the thread):
CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing, by Emma Tucker, CNN, Updated today
Peaceful protesting gone awry.
CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing, by Emma Tucker, CNN, Updated today
Peaceful protesting gone awry.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:34 PM (NFX2v)
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I work for a defense contractor (not Boeing!). The problem is simple. D.E.I. has perverted mgmnt thinking and I'm talking ToP mgmnt. Product held up because an assembler has cramps, her end product is defective but can't be given back because it will hurt her feelings. The guy who corrects assembly errors is backed up w/too much work.
Posted by: MantuaBill at August 11, 2024 01:34 PM (rPheK)
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Kamala says too many civilian deaths in Palestine.
https://tinyurl.com/2mjbasrk
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (p4NUW)
Little Miss Not Officially Acting President should have all the info necessary that proves Hamas' own numbers are complete bullshit. But there she is, lying straight through her whore teeth.
But man do they ever need the terrorist vote in Michigan.
https://tinyurl.com/2mjbasrk
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (p4NUW)
Little Miss Not Officially Acting President should have all the info necessary that proves Hamas' own numbers are complete bullshit. But there she is, lying straight through her whore teeth.
But man do they ever need the terrorist vote in Michigan.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:35 PM (MWBxy)
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"I got to thinking about Anti-icing systems because of the recent unpleasantness in Brazil the other day."
Report said there was an "icing warning between 17,000 and 21,000 feet" (or some numbers close to that). And the plane was flying right in the middle of it.
I don't think I've ever seen a plane fall from the sky like that, from icing. I guess that is why icing is a bad thing.
Report said there was an "icing warning between 17,000 and 21,000 feet" (or some numbers close to that). And the plane was flying right in the middle of it.
I don't think I've ever seen a plane fall from the sky like that, from icing. I guess that is why icing is a bad thing.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2024 01:36 PM (Cus5s)
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Colts place kicker is Gay
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:37 PM (/7KEl)
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But man do they ever need the terrorist vote in Michigan.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:35 PM (MWBxy)
Seems that way.. Funny thing is apart from their hate of Jews they disagree with everything Kamala and her ilk believe in
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:35 PM (MWBxy)
Seems that way.. Funny thing is apart from their hate of Jews they disagree with everything Kamala and her ilk believe in
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:37 PM (IyPmt)
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and Gay nails it
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:37 PM (/7KEl)
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But man do they ever need the terrorist vote in Michigan.
Posted by: Robert
Shouldn't they be coasting in Michigan? Or Pennsylvania? Why are they pushing so much shit to bolster those States? Methinks the game is afoot!
Posted by: Robert
Shouldn't they be coasting in Michigan? Or Pennsylvania? Why are they pushing so much shit to bolster those States? Methinks the game is afoot!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 11, 2024 01:37 PM (4XwPj)
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For some reason Hughes Aerospace corp is the quietest and most boring aerospace company in America.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:38 PM (D7oie)
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241 QUESTION: Who chairs the US National Space Council?
ANSWER: US Vice President Kamal Harris
______
So those poor fooked over astronauts waiting for rescue are her fault? Well, that explains it. Hope Trump starts mentioning this.
ANSWER: US Vice President Kamal Harris
______
So those poor fooked over astronauts waiting for rescue are her fault? Well, that explains it. Hope Trump starts mentioning this.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM (4ev+q)
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OMG I just saw two commercials
1 gay couple
2 pubic hair trimmer
I kid you not- pubic hair trimmers are a thing in TV commercials now
1 gay couple
2 pubic hair trimmer
I kid you not- pubic hair trimmers are a thing in TV commercials now
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)
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274
'CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing'
These protestors need to be given one warning. If your protest turns violent one time, then that's the last protest you're doing here. Anyone showing up after that is arrested as a rioter.
'CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing'
These protestors need to be given one warning. If your protest turns violent one time, then that's the last protest you're doing here. Anyone showing up after that is arrested as a rioter.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:40 PM (3wi/L)
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Wonder what their PAYCHECK is going to look like when they get back...
Lots of overtime there.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (xaFKb)
They're all broke, because they installed video poker and World of Tanks games on the space station.
Lots of overtime there.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 11, 2024 01:29 PM (xaFKb)
They're all broke, because they installed video poker and World of Tanks games on the space station.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:40 PM (24Zq+)
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24 Corporate America critically needs to deprogram its executive classes of the rot that elite business schools have taught. A start would be to consider those schools toxic, along with their graduates.
I think you can hire MBAs, but only if they also have engineering degrees.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11
I give you Honeywell Aerospace. I give you Grace Davison. This is not the solution. A little bit of common sense would go far, however.
I think you can hire MBAs, but only if they also have engineering degrees.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11
I give you Honeywell Aerospace. I give you Grace Davison. This is not the solution. A little bit of common sense would go far, however.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:40 PM (d2kuJ)
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I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
You and your fancy-dancy hinges, we had a hole in the wall we blocked with debris and dead leaves. And we were GLAD to have it.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
You and your fancy-dancy hinges, we had a hole in the wall we blocked with debris and dead leaves. And we were GLAD to have it.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (D7oie)
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CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing, by Emma Tucker, CNN, Updated today
_____
Protesters need bail? Kamala's on it!
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Protesters need bail? Kamala's on it!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (4ev+q)
289
Who is Charlie Gray?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (w6EFb)
290
And I saw the Naval Shipyards have the same problem during the SLEP decades ago.
In several years, there were not more than 30 women related to PRODUCTION jobs among thousands and thousands of men, many newly hired, in Philadelphia.
Cost was an operational factor: Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) was a process by a United States federal government commission to increase the efficiency of the United States Department of Defense by coordinating the realignment and closure of military installations following the end of the Cold War.
As they opened and closed bases around the world, talented production personnel often lost jobs, were displaced and moved, etc.
In several years, there were not more than 30 women related to PRODUCTION jobs among thousands and thousands of men, many newly hired, in Philadelphia.
Cost was an operational factor: Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) was a process by a United States federal government commission to increase the efficiency of the United States Department of Defense by coordinating the realignment and closure of military installations following the end of the Cold War.
As they opened and closed bases around the world, talented production personnel often lost jobs, were displaced and moved, etc.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:42 PM (NFX2v)
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CNN: Ferguson officer ‘fighting for his life’ and several arrested after protests marking 10 years since Michael Brown’s killing, by Emma Tucker, CNN, Updated today
Peaceful protesting gone awry.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:34 PM (NFX2v)
Finishing the job Mike Brown didn't.
Peaceful protesting gone awry.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:34 PM (NFX2v)
Finishing the job Mike Brown didn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:42 PM (24Zq+)
292
I kid you not- pubic hair trimmers are a thing in TV commercials now
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)
I think they have been for a while. I get ads for them on YouBoob from time to time and they're annoying as hell. Jesus H, at least be euphemistic!
I think I'm getting more prudish as I get older. I blame the Horde.
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM (/7KEl)
I think they have been for a while. I get ads for them on YouBoob from time to time and they're annoying as hell. Jesus H, at least be euphemistic!
I think I'm getting more prudish as I get older. I blame the Horde.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:43 PM (MWBxy)
293
Anyone showing up after that is arrested as a rioter.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:40 PM (3wi/L)
You misspelled shot in the street.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:40 PM (3wi/L)
You misspelled shot in the street.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2024 01:44 PM (24Zq+)
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:44 PM (/7KEl)
295
Anyone else wondering if those two space pilots got their absentee ballots filled out before leaving?
Posted by: From about That Time at August 11, 2024 01:44 PM (T0LzB)
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290 Who is Charlie Gray?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (w6EFb)
Meanwhile on the planets face
Some insects called the Human Race
Lost in Time, Lost in Space,
And Meaning.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (w6EFb)
Meanwhile on the planets face
Some insects called the Human Race
Lost in Time, Lost in Space,
And Meaning.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2024 01:44 PM (F/xk0)
297
295 I seriously never thought I'd see a TV ad for shaving your junk
the end is near
Posted by: Don Black
LOL.
the end is near
Posted by: Don Black
LOL.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:45 PM (NFX2v)
298
Late to the party. I worked for NASA until 2018 and worked a little bit my last several years with the Boeing Starliner troops on docking mechs and targets. In my judgement they were doing a very good job designing and testing those items. But the NASA guys I talked with who worked with Boeing on the other spacecraft systems all said Boeing put their 2nd team engineers on it from the start. And many of those engineers had worked on ISS modules and elements, not on crewed spacecraft with prop systems, flight software, and many other things needed for an independently flying vehicle.
And here we are.
And here we are.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2024 01:45 PM (5fDan)
299
Charlie Gray was the main character in 50 Shades Of Gray, right?
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:45 PM (MWBxy)
300
People have dug up a gay dating profile for what appears to be Adam Kinzinger. Tattoos and bracelets match.
Anyone not shocked by that can probably collect their winnings.
Anyone not shocked by that can probably collect their winnings.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 11, 2024 01:46 PM (LqI47)
301
I think you can hire MBAs, but only if they also have engineering degrees.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11
I give you Honeywell Aerospace. I give you Grace Davison. This is not the solution. A little bit of common sense would go far, however.
Couldn't hurt.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11
I give you Honeywell Aerospace. I give you Grace Davison. This is not the solution. A little bit of common sense would go far, however.
Couldn't hurt.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:47 PM (xCA6C)
302
Companies used to be run to make a profit, cover the employees, and invest something in their communities. Modest growth through internal investment was the hallmark of a successful company. Then business schools started in with a company’s primary responsibility was to maximize shareholder value. That requires trimming expenses, minimizing employees, and quarterly growth for ever.
It’s the antithesis of well-run, if only because it’s not possible to maintain. Business schools need to re-think their approach. It’s crippled US industrial capacity. So much of what we need to maintain the country now must be imported.
It’s the antithesis of well-run, if only because it’s not possible to maintain. Business schools need to re-think their approach. It’s crippled US industrial capacity. So much of what we need to maintain the country now must be imported.
Posted by: Advo at August 11, 2024 01:47 PM (jO4mz)
303
My daughter thinks Musk should offer NASA a subscription service to supply the space station. I could not bring myself to ask if that was her original idea. But she is creative and funny.
Posted by: Nothing Else to Add, oh, wait at August 11, 2024 01:48 PM (ANFY9)
304
People have dug up a gay dating profile for what appears to be Adam Kinzinger. Tattoos and bracelets match.
Anyone not shocked by that can probably collect their winnings.
AK: It wasn't me, I tell you! *breaks into tears*
Anyone not shocked by that can probably collect their winnings.
AK: It wasn't me, I tell you! *breaks into tears*
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:48 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2024 01:50 PM (IG4Id)
306
CBD, if this is the company that I'm thinking of, it's only doubled in the last 25 years. Domino's went public in 2004 and went up over 40x in the meantime.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (2zbvG)
Go for it...guess!
Its stock price has been at a high of triple where it closed the first day it went public, but now it is less than double.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 11, 2024 01:32 PM (2zbvG)
Go for it...guess!
Its stock price has been at a high of triple where it closed the first day it went public, but now it is less than double.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2024 01:50 PM (d9fT1)
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Then business schools started in with a company’s primary responsibility was to maximize shareholder value. That requires trimming expenses, minimizing employees, and quarterly growth for ever.
I don't think maximizing shareholder value is the problem. It's how they go about it (as you describe), which is completely wrong. Shareholders usually want value, and that means something that doesn't go kerblooey quarter after next.
I don't think maximizing shareholder value is the problem. It's how they go about it (as you describe), which is completely wrong. Shareholders usually want value, and that means something that doesn't go kerblooey quarter after next.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)
308
Got the Philadelphia retired State police officer and wife Trump commercial so let it play. When can give The Ho a thumbs down 👎
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 01:50 PM (fwDg9)
309
But man do they ever need the terrorist vote in Michigan.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:35 PM (MWBxy)
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Robert at August 11, 2024 01:35 PM (MWBxy)
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2024 01:50 PM (5fDan)
310
deliberate!
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:51 PM (/7KEl)
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310
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:52 PM (BgmlQ)
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:53 PM (/7KEl)
313
I've been lobbying Boeing to give the Speaker Emerita the next ride on their space plane.
Posted by: Pelosi 2AM Thursday Naked Hammer Time! at August 11, 2024 01:53 PM (CV8a5)
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1. Defend America’s borders. Job One.
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2024 01:53 PM (LHPAg)
315
ISS: Uber-space is here with the O2 and consumables
Mission control: Tell Elon to leave it on the stoop, we will credit him the tip
Mission control: Tell Elon to leave it on the stoop, we will credit him the tip
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:53 PM (D7oie)
316
312 310
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:52 PM (BgmlQ)
If elected she'll renege on this promise and any other policy promises she'll make to buy votes that differ from the Maximum Leftist Party Line. Lying is in her blood.
They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:52 PM (BgmlQ)
If elected she'll renege on this promise and any other policy promises she'll make to buy votes that differ from the Maximum Leftist Party Line. Lying is in her blood.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2024 01:56 PM (5fDan)
317
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:52 PM (BgmlQ)
If elected she'll renege on this promise and any other policy promises she'll make to buy votes that differ from the Maximum Leftist Party Line. Lying is in her blood.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2024 01:56 PM (5fDan)
"Republicans blocked it!"
Posted by: Piper at August 11, 2024 01:52 PM (BgmlQ)
If elected she'll renege on this promise and any other policy promises she'll make to buy votes that differ from the Maximum Leftist Party Line. Lying is in her blood.
Posted by: Gref at August 11, 2024 01:56 PM (5fDan)
"Republicans blocked it!"
Posted by: davidt at August 11, 2024 01:57 PM (i0F8b)
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They also desperately want the votes of the legions of casino servers and dealers, cab drivers, and everyone else getting tips in Vegas. That's why Kammie suddenly copied Trump's no taxes on tips policy. And announced it in Vegas.
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
*takes notes*
Posted by: Gref at August
Completely forgetting she was the tie breaking vote for legislation to actively go after tips.
*takes notes*
Posted by: J.D. Vance at August 11, 2024 01:58 PM (xCA6C)
319
She came up with a new and exciting idea. Do away with taxes on tips!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (IyPmt)
Only the shaft gets taxed
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)
How ever did she come up with that ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2024 01:11 PM (IyPmt)
Only the shaft gets taxed
Posted by: Modified limited deep throat at August 11, 2024 01:58 PM (q1Zxb)
320
Can't be ice in Brazil. It's so far south.
Posted by: Andre' LePlume at August 11, 2024 01:59 PM (CV8a5)
321
284
'OMG I just saw two commercials
1 gay couple
2 pubic hair trimmer'
I wonder what you have to watch on YouTube to get those in your feed.
'OMG I just saw two commercials
1 gay couple
2 pubic hair trimmer'
I wonder what you have to watch on YouTube to get those in your feed.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 11, 2024 01:59 PM (3wi/L)
322
So protecting tips for Uber, etc. drivers. Was always going to be: Harris' brother-in-law and very good friend to O, Tony West, Senior Vice President and chief legal officer of Uber.
And after all, they want to unionize them, too.
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Bloomsberg, August 2, 2024: Uber Legal Chief Tony West to Take Leave for Harris Campaign
West, an ex-DOJ official, is vice president’s brother-in-law
At Uber, he has handled high-profile cases on driver rules
And after all, they want to unionize them, too.
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Bloomsberg, August 2, 2024: Uber Legal Chief Tony West to Take Leave for Harris Campaign
West, an ex-DOJ official, is vice president’s brother-in-law
At Uber, he has handled high-profile cases on driver rules
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 11, 2024 01:59 PM (NFX2v)
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288 I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
You and your fancy-dancy hinges, we had a hole in the wall we blocked with debris and dead leaves. And we were GLAD to have it.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (D7oie)
Ha, all be had was a partly tamed grizzll bear caained at our cave entrance. Ever so often he’eat one of us kids
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
You and your fancy-dancy hinges, we had a hole in the wall we blocked with debris and dead leaves. And we were GLAD to have it.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2024 01:41 PM (D7oie)
Ha, all be had was a partly tamed grizzll bear caained at our cave entrance. Ever so often he’eat one of us kids
Posted by: Eromero at August 11, 2024 02:00 PM (LHPAg)
324
FIRSTY NOOD
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2024 02:02 PM (fwDg9)
325
>I wonder what you have to watch on YouTube to get those in your feed.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
---
I saw them watching NFL game
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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I saw them watching NFL game
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 02:03 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Adiabatic lapse rate at August 11, 2024 02:04 PM (Y1sOo)
327
Sure would like a link to Harris being the tie-breaking vote for taxing tips. Needless to say, searching on interwebz pulls nothing.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at August 11, 2024 02:06 PM (3AwA+)
328
I kid you not- pubic hair trimmers are a thing in TV commercials now
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM
TBF, wood can't get hard by itself.
Posted by: Don Black at August 11, 2024 01:39 PM
TBF, wood can't get hard by itself.
Posted by: J. Random Moron at August 11, 2024 02:07 PM (a3Q+t)
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Someone on the ONT (IIRC) was pointing out that photographs of her campaign events have crowds but no reflections in mirrored surfaces, and too many arms on some of the people. AI generated propaganda.
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Posted by: Moron Robbie - Women pursuing older men must desire incestous father fantasies
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 11, 2024 02:15 PM (L/fGl)
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🚨🇧🇩OUSTED BANGLADESH PM: THE US IS BEHIND IT ALL
Former Bangladesh prime minister Sheikh Hasina:
"The U.S. demanded control of Saint Martin Island and the Bay of Bengal in exchange for my power!
I urge my people, don't fall prey to radical manipulation!"
Source: Hindustan Times
Former Bangladesh prime minister Sheikh Hasina:
"The U.S. demanded control of Saint Martin Island and the Bay of Bengal in exchange for my power!
I urge my people, don't fall prey to radical manipulation!"
Source: Hindustan Times
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 11, 2024 02:15 PM (4ev+q)
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Years ago, the Bureau of Engraving spent several million dollars and more than a year setting up gravure plating and engraving operation for printing new paper money. After about 18 months they shut down the operation and sold the basically new equipment for pennies on the dollar. The union didn't like the operation because it could be run with fewer employees than the current method.
Posted by: TC at August 11, 2024 02:18 PM (cHOHf)
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"The report pointed to 71 “Corrective Action Requests”(CARs) issued by the Defense Contract Management Agency (DCMA) at Michoud between 2021 and 2023 to address “deficiencies in quality.”"
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Well, Michoud is in New Orleans East.
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Well, Michoud is in New Orleans East.
Posted by: javems at August 11, 2024 02:23 PM (8I4hW)
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30 NASA Investigation Finds Boeing Hindering Americans' Return to Moon
How about return to Earth?
Posted by: lurking grandma at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM
Thats on them, they trusted us.
How about return to Earth?
Posted by: lurking grandma at August 11, 2024 12:14 PM
Thats on them, they trusted us.
Posted by: Boeing at August 11, 2024 02:23 PM (cHOHf)
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>>>@327 TIE-BREAKING VOTE
There's an article over at the Gateway Pundit ...
https://tinyurl.com/4rbbuxzn
There's an article over at the Gateway Pundit ...
https://tinyurl.com/4rbbuxzn
Posted by: Kathy at August 11, 2024 02:23 PM (p69D5)
335
You elites with your doors.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
ROCK?? We took turns laying on the floor against the door to keep it closed. Too bad the door was an old blanket.
I grew up with a sheet of plywood on some leather hinges. Held it shut with a rock.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)
ROCK?? We took turns laying on the floor against the door to keep it closed. Too bad the door was an old blanket.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy older than dirt at August 11, 2024 02:27 PM (iODuv)
336
I'd lay part of the blame on our miseducation system.
No academic rigor. Engineers graduating from college don't know crap about how the world's supposed to work. I doubt if they know about "rightly tighty, lefty loosey"
But their pronouns are smoking!
No academic rigor. Engineers graduating from college don't know crap about how the world's supposed to work. I doubt if they know about "rightly tighty, lefty loosey"
But their pronouns are smoking!
Posted by: Occasional Commenter at August 11, 2024 04:05 PM (MV++E)
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NASA Investigation Finds Boeing Hindering Americans' Return to Moon
How about return to Earth?
Posted by: lurking grandma
We have got to admit that we are huge fans of the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 missions. They were sent out and told not to bother to come back!
Kind of like the 9/11 hijackers, now that we think about it ...
-- ! Booiiinng! Booiiinng! Booiiinng!
NASA Investigation Finds Boeing Hindering Americans' Return to Moon
How about return to Earth?
Posted by: lurking grandma
We have got to admit that we are huge fans of the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 missions. They were sent out and told not to bother to come back!
Kind of like the 9/11 hijackers, now that we think about it ...
-- ! Booiiinng! Booiiinng! Booiiinng!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2024 04:32 PM (YadcW)
338
Don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at August 11, 2024 04:52 PM (+H2BX)
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Maybe Boeing fell behind on their bribe schedule, or maybe their corporate culture's shift from an incredible engineering company to an MBA-driven financial company has something to do with it.
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This is the major problem with a lot of American and European companies. They focus on manipulating their stock prices and ignoring what got them into the Fortune 500 to begin with... Engineering excellence and high quality.
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This is the major problem with a lot of American and European companies. They focus on manipulating their stock prices and ignoring what got them into the Fortune 500 to begin with... Engineering excellence and high quality.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 11, 2024 05:13 PM (/1SrV)
340
Okay...I can think of one. The United States Mint and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing does a pretty good job of producing our coins and bills. Far too many, but that's a different issue. And they are probably pathetically inefficient, but at least the end result is of good quality.
———
Kinda late but you’ll note that is an actual manufacturing operation.
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Kinda late but you’ll note that is an actual manufacturing operation.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 11, 2024 07:08 PM (2fIO4)
341
If you want to know what is going on at Boeing and what sort of minds are running the show, read up on some of the leaders... or just hear them speak. There is no shortage of content.
Also note "where" and how often they appear at outside events. Draw whatever conclusions you might from those observations in light of the crisis within.
Here is Susan Doniz. CIO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfnpTJOTrXY
Also note "where" and how often they appear at outside events. Draw whatever conclusions you might from those observations in light of the crisis within.
Here is Susan Doniz. CIO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfnpTJOTrXY
Posted by: SoUglyIBroketheLookingGlass at August 11, 2024 07:48 PM (yf5/z)
342
Blaming DEI for all that is wrong is like blaming your dick for getting the clap.
The brain that put your dick in a stupid place to get the clap is why your dick has the clap. The brain that keeps putting it in that awful destination is why your dick will eventually fall off.
Stop blaming the clap for being in your dick. It's not your dick's fault and its not the clap's fault. It's not even the fault of the $2 address of the clap trap. It's the decision maker's fault. Last time I checked those were mainly white people in woke coporate America.
The brain that put your dick in a stupid place to get the clap is why your dick has the clap. The brain that keeps putting it in that awful destination is why your dick will eventually fall off.
Stop blaming the clap for being in your dick. It's not your dick's fault and its not the clap's fault. It's not even the fault of the $2 address of the clap trap. It's the decision maker's fault. Last time I checked those were mainly white people in woke coporate America.
Posted by: SoUglyIBroketheLookingGlass at August 11, 2024 07:59 PM (yf5/z)
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When I went through my Quality Management Masters about 15 years ago, we were all about Deming his disciples and Quality Assurance. Then MBA's took hold of all the programs because the quality was working...but it wasn't baked in, it was a daily struggle to protect the product/brand and the consumer.
Once bean counters wrung the 'overhead' out they deemed the reliance on Quality Control to be enough.
One of Deming's 14 principles:
"Create a constant purpose toward improvement-
Plan for quality in the long term. Resist reacting with short-term solutions. Don't just do the same things better – find better things to do. Predict and prepare for future challenges, and always have the goal of getting better."
QA is proactive, while QC is reactive...
And there's where we are...f$*&ed.
Once bean counters wrung the 'overhead' out they deemed the reliance on Quality Control to be enough.
One of Deming's 14 principles:
"Create a constant purpose toward improvement-
Plan for quality in the long term. Resist reacting with short-term solutions. Don't just do the same things better – find better things to do. Predict and prepare for future challenges, and always have the goal of getting better."
QA is proactive, while QC is reactive...
And there's where we are...f$*&ed.
Posted by: Mudshark at August 11, 2024 10:25 PM (xtzbF)
344
Theresa a movie out called Boeing Boeing
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Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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