First World Problems...

Herefordshire Ale. Yeah...it's damned good, especially considering that I have had a run of vaguely disappointing Cask Ales. Perhaps I am just unlucky and have chosen my pubs poorly, but it seems like the glorious cask ales of England are being infiltrated by the mouth-puckering oddities from America...those double and triple and quadruple-hopped monstrosities that seem to have been in vogue for many years.

The ones I have had recently were good, but I think that the style of Cask Ales does not lend itself to aggressive hopping (not the rabbit kind). Anyway, this one was superb, and hard to find! Apparently, the Herefords like to drink it, and keep a lot of it around for themselves, which I think is quite rude. And why did they name their beer with Welsh words? Brits are weird.

So I guess the First-World Problem is when the Herefordshirians are going to stop being so damned selfish and start shipping their glorious Cask Ales to America...specifically to the pub closest to my house!

Sadly, it is not as simple as it seems. These ales undergo a secondary fermentation in the cask, so transport and storage are more complex than the typical beer. And when it gets to the pub, tapping also is not the simple process that we all (except for Garrett, who learned how to make Cosmopolitans) learned at a young age.

Yes...life is difficult sometimes, but as Muldoon says, I will endeavor to persevere!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:00 PM (3NfiW)

2 Craft beers seem to be getting spread around, I tend to get the local ones but seems far flung are available

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:02 PM (fwDg9)

3
*waves hands*

Hey!
Yo!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 28, 2024 02:04 PM (1Nxff)

4 What does this "Butty Bach" taste like?

Ass?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 02:04 PM (Q4IgG)

5
Skip beat me to First because he's on Eastern Time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 28, 2024 02:04 PM (1Nxff)

6 I'm on the tech team at church and we almost always face a first-world problem there.

Today, someone had messed around with the settings for the live stream so we had to call one of our experts to fix it for us...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 28, 2024 02:06 PM (BpYfr)

7 What does this "Butty Bach" taste like?

Ass?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 02:04 PM (Q4IgG)

Yes. Brooklyn Decker's ass.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 28, 2024 02:06 PM (d9fT1)

8 Hadrian but means Bidens Dog would beat me being 6 hours or so ahead

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:07 PM (fwDg9)

9 I have lately been finding some small brewery lagers offered. This pleases me greatly as I don't care for the ales, especially the IPAs that dominate or the stouts. Now I have easy options to transheiser busch and the South African mega corporation products.

I don't think I've ever had Budweiser but my redneck tastes liked Busch lite but I won't buy anything from ImBev.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 28, 2024 02:07 PM (wTs+0)

10
What we drink at my house.

https://tinyurl.com/3dw3htym

Posted by: Speller at July 28, 2024 02:07 PM (pSotA)

11 And when it gets to the pub, tapping also is not the simple process that we all (except for Garrett, who learned how to make Cosmopolitans) learned at a young age.

Yeah, but you get the opportunity to use the word "bunghole" in proper context. That's not nothing.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 28, 2024 02:07 PM (pIfcn)

12 Samuel Smith’s XXXX and Extra Stout have long been my pub favorites. Their Old Brewery Bitter is also good. In bottles, you can’t beat their Nut Brown Ale.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 28, 2024 02:08 PM (spwXi)

13 We have a Generac. The power went out last week. Generac went on.

We have a stand up freezer and a fridge freezer both plugged into the same outlet. Apparently, for the first time ever, the breaker was tripped.

We lost about $400 of meat. Not too bad. Years old. Most bought at $1.99 Canadian a pound. I was slowly making my way through it.

Just an FYI.

Posted by: Stateless at July 28, 2024 02:08 PM (jvJvP)

14 Anything from Toppling Goliath, especially the stouts.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 28, 2024 02:09 PM (Dm8we)

15
Cars with passengers nowadays don't park and the occupants walk in to their destination. No, they have to stop next to their destination and hold up traffic while the passengers get out, usually in a leisurely manner.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 28, 2024 02:10 PM (1Nxff)

16 hey this bach tastes kinda butty

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:10 PM (/7KEl)

17 7 Yes. Brooklyn Decker's ass.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 28, 2024 02:06 PM

Before or after having Mexican?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 28, 2024 02:11 PM (0XVad)

18 My first world problem? I don’t like beer.

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:12 PM (pZEOD)

19
Is Butty Bach a descendant of Johann Sebastian?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 28, 2024 02:12 PM (1Nxff)

20 If you get a used appliance make sure it gets a good cord and plug installed. now I know.

Posted by: Lord Percy at July 28, 2024 02:12 PM (/cBnn)

21 I drink a lot less beer these days.

American beer makers have lost the plot.

Posted by: No, I don't want a peanut butter toffee crunch imperial stout at July 28, 2024 02:12 PM (AUL7F)

22 I've been enjoying hard cider lately.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 28, 2024 02:13 PM (Pijte)

23 I also just ate a bite of brownie made with avocado oil from a client. Was not delicious. Do not recommend.

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (pZEOD)

24 18 My first world problem? I don’t like beer.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:12 PM

Yep. It tastes like beer.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (dg+HA)

25 Butty Bach has all the butty goodness you've been craving

pick up a case today

"Get some Butt"

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (/7KEl)

26 Related to the last post?
NBC finds yet another way to make me not want to watch the Olympics: https://tinyurl.com/yc7fs4h9

Posted by: Lizzy at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (Pijte)

27 One of my ex-co workers started Pyramid Ale. She talked a bit about what was involved with that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:15 PM (xjTDL)

28 Been getting Work Horse beer out of King of Prussia Pa, but the stout I bought first seems not to be available lately.
One thing seeing from a short ( few years) craft beer brewery is they constantly keep making different kinds.

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:16 PM (fwDg9)

29 Real cask ales are served right from the cask (or keg) with a hand pump that looks suspiciously like a bilge pump.

CBD, was a hand pump used to serve the Herefordshirian's Ale?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 02:17 PM (1Gye2)

30 I fear no beer.

But I find myself not drinking much these days as I am usually behind the wheel of a car not long after.
Though NH last month was an exception. The amount of delicious food went a long way towards diluting the single beer I would have each night. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 28, 2024 02:17 PM (0XVad)

31 My FWP is I have an ugly kitchen BUT ALL THAT CHANGES Tuesday when the home improvement guys come in and rip out all the countertops and backsplashes and sills and replace some doors and molding and some major plumbing renovations

a same floor bathroom is getting the same treatment

week after that, the painters do their thing

you should see this new Kohler toilet I'm having installed
it is a toilet worthy of the name

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:18 PM (/7KEl)

32 I have to hand it to Yeungling. I bought a seasonal beer in October. Just getting around to drinking it. It's fine. Takes good, no nasty beer burps.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:18 PM (xjTDL)

33 I am definitely tired of IPAs, they are getting boring

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

34 27 One of my ex-co workers started Pyramid Ale. She talked a bit about what was involved with that.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:15 PM (xjTDL)

Constantly recruiting new investors and giving their money to people who got in earlier as earnings?

Posted by: Ponzi's IPA started similarly at July 28, 2024 02:19 PM (lRx9h)

35 I don't drink beer much anymore, but when I do it is usually a New Belgium IPA. Or Odell.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 28, 2024 02:19 PM (Ad8y9)

36 I drink a lot less beer these days.

American beer makers have lost the plot.
Posted by: No, I don't want a peanut butter toffee crunch imperial stout
_________

Could not disagree more. Virtually every taste on the spectrum is now covered. It's just a matter of finding it.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 28, 2024 02:19 PM (Dm8we)

37 About the only place around here that has an even remotely sizeable selection of beers, ales and whatnots is pricey and a bit too hip for my liking.

They do, however, have a sizeable Bourbon selection (2 whole aisles) and a acceptable selection of Scotch, Gin and Tequila.

I think my last beer was a Yingling Pilsner pint. Months ago.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4IgG)

38 My first world problem is that if Iam watching a movie on blu ray and have to stop watching, it won't resume. I have to scroll through the scene selection menu. Annoying as hell.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 28, 2024 02:22 PM (Ad8y9)

39 That and her husband was a controling a**hole and the marriage fell apart. But she did talk about the smell of the mash.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:23 PM (xjTDL)

40 Yeah, and you know what I want? Parkbraü available to the finer liquor stores in America. But that won’t happen.

Anyplace in American that sells it and announces it, say, on the Net will be besieged by those who have any memory of being stationed at Pirmasens or Zweibrücken.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 28, 2024 02:24 PM (8sMut)

41 31 My FWP is I have an ugly kitchen BUT ALL THAT CHANGES Tuesday when the home improvement guys come in and rip out all the countertops and backsplashes and sills and replace some doors and molding and some major plumbing renovations

a same floor bathroom is getting the same treatment

week after that, the painters do their thing

you should see this new Kohler toilet I'm having installed
it is a toilet worthy of the name
Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024

I will pray for you. A kitchen reno is awful. The end is worth it, but during? Even with the plastic sheets, dust is everywhere. We had a full size sink in the basement but going there to do dishes and make coffee was a pain. It felt like forever. I want to put my pot filler in this kitchen the builder forgot and I am having to psych myself up just for that after a full reno in my last house! 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:24 PM (pZEOD)

42 a same floor bathroom is getting the same treatment

week after that, the painters do their thing

you should see this new Kohler toilet I'm having installed
it is a toilet worthy of the name
Posted by: Don Black

Must be nice. I finally put a coat of whitewash on the outhouse and thought I was doing good.

Posted by: County-Fried Cal at July 28, 2024 02:25 PM (CV8a5)

43 AOP introduced me to a local brewery: Lochiel Brewing in Mesa AZ.
Good beer selection (not all of them IPA, Hazy IPA, or Double IPA).
A nice little tap room that is almost in the brewery.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 02:25 PM (1Gye2)

44
///fear.movie.lions

"... it gets its name from what 3 words, a global positioning system that assigns three words to every three-meter square on the globe. Look up ///fear.movie.lions and it'll lead you to Stone Brewing Richmond - our East Coast home in Virginia where the beer was first released!"

Cool story, bro

https://map.what3words.com/fear.movie.lions

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 28, 2024 02:26 PM (dg+HA)

45 I really enjoyed home brewing my own beer, as it is a fascinating hobby, combining both cooking and gardening. Alas, health issues forced me to greatly limit my beer consumption.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 28, 2024 02:26 PM (Yt4b4)

46 I will be doing that too, Don Black. Since the bathroom has an opening covered with tar paper where the window used to be and bare studs behind the shower stall, I'm looking forward to getting it fixed. I'll talk to the guy this week. The auction house uses them to redo places they buy, before they put them on the market.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:27 PM (xjTDL)

47 she did talk about the smell of the mash.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

When I brewed the neighbors would come over to find out what I was brewing.
They'd also ask when it would be available for sampling, while 'sampling' whatever I had on tap of course.
Good times.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 02:28 PM (1Gye2)

48 4.6% ABV????

Back in the day we called that "Near Beer"

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 28, 2024 02:30 PM (5AVMW)

49 Remember the brewpub craze of a few years back? It seemed anyone who ever brewed five gallons of ale and burned a burger on the backyard grill opened one.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 28, 2024 02:31 PM (Yt4b4)

50 Alas, health issues forced me to greatly limit my beer consumption.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Yeah, you've never seen a thin homebrewer, must less a thin Brewmeister!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 02:31 PM (1Gye2)

51 American beer is about what you'd expect from coming behind from a 200 year head-start.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 02:31 PM (Rm1xR)

52
Speaking of beer....kinda sorta...

Shiner is now making gin!

Shiner Gin:

https://shiner.com/spirits/

Posted by: naturalfake at July 28, 2024 02:31 PM (eDfFs)

53 I am also looking forward to a kitchen floor that has a covering and can be mopped. I am not going to do fancy but I want trim and new windows too. And kitchen cabinet doors with handles that close. If you are not good with that kind of thing, you should leave it alone.

I have my little trailer to hang out in, if I need to get away for the work.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:31 PM (xjTDL)

54 This is available in CO, but not in TX:
https://shorturl.at/SZc4y

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:32 PM (FnneF)

55 #1son has been trying home brrw. So far, I think about all he's gotten is large stands of hops.

Posted by: Livia Drusilla at July 28, 2024 02:33 PM (i0FYI)

56 My first world problem is that if Iam watching a movie on blu ray and have to stop watching, it won't resume. I have to scroll through the scene selection menu. Annoying as hell.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 28, 2024 02:22 PM (Ad8y9)
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Yeah, I find that annoying as well. All this incredible technology to bring us amazing sound and images and they can't have a working "stop" function that stops playback where you left off?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 28, 2024 02:33 PM (BpYfr)

57 well, this work is long overdue

I've been sitting on some funds for years, this year I am authorizing the appropriations

Infrastructure!
my kitchen is shovel-ready

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:33 PM (/7KEl)

58 Me and the ex-wife would brew beer in cooler chests in Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 02:34 PM (4Med0)

59 i'm not getting new cabinets

the painters are re-habbing the existing ones

wahat am I, Rockefeller?

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:35 PM (/7KEl)

60 I tried fermenting Wheaties in high school.... Capitalism allows me to do what I do well, get tokens for it, and give some of those tokens to somebody who can successfully turn Wheaties (or whatever substitute) into potable beer.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 28, 2024 02:35 PM (KAi1n)

61 CBD - been trying to catch you, posted some info for you in KT's thread yesterday.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 28, 2024 02:35 PM (5p7BC)

62 and knobs
I need a bag of knobs

(swing batter, swing!)

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:35 PM (/7KEl)

63 I'm putting in new fixtures in that bathroom too. Pretty sure you'll be happy with the upgrade when they finish your project.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:35 PM (xjTDL)

64 Yes...life is difficult sometimes, but as Muldoon says, I will endeavor to persevere!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

"The dude abides...."

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 02:36 PM (QGaXH)

65 Massive Trump truck rally in Point Pleasant, lots of honking and everybody smiling.

Good to see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 28, 2024 02:36 PM (h6zcr)

66 I should have some work done around here but I want to just sell and move to a saner state. Having difficulty psyching myself up to do all the work of a move though.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 28, 2024 02:37 PM (wTs+0)

67 I like to drink beer, don't mind skipping brewing as a hobby. OTOH would be interested in making cider, and have heard it's not too difficult. Maybe after the little hobbits leave the hole or at least can all transport themselves.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 02:38 PM (ftFVW)

68 I thought about bugging out many times, but at my advanced age I don't think I'm up to a complete upheaval and reset somewhere else

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:38 PM (/7KEl)

69 My First-World problem today: inner tube for lawnmower tire that tube patches would not stick to, regardless of what efforts I made to ensure they stuck. Finally pulled the tube out, put a tubeless tire valve stem in the hole, and aired it up. No leaks! (so far)

At Rowley Pizza Night last evening I was drinking a dark ale from Troubled Monk Brewery in Red Deer. It was yummy. Met a cool dog, too. It is a large, brown and gray shaggy beast, vaguely Husky-looking, whose Mama calls it a "Teacup Werewolf". A very friendly dog, in fact.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:38 PM (ztIZS)

70 I've been sitting on some funds for years, this year I am authorizing the appropriations

Infrastructure!
my kitchen is shovel-ready
Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:33 PM (/7KEl)

DB, if you've just been sitting, probably lost 20% already. So go ahead and pour it back into the economy lol.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 02:39 PM (Rm1xR)

71 The Paolo something something, how you say, something something knobs something.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 28, 2024 02:39 PM (dg+HA)

72 ----
Yeah, I find that annoying as well. All this incredible technology to bring us amazing sound and images and they can't have a working "stop" function that stops playback where you left off?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 28, 2024 02:33 PM (BpYfr)

It's called a pause button. ⏸️ That's not a quotation mark on your remote control. Old people need so much help.

Posted by: Fozzy at July 28, 2024 02:40 PM (hJFKB)

73 No, Prohibition killed American beer brewing. Prior to that every town of any size had a brewery, and the beer wasn't bad at all.

Hipsters like to think they invented or discovered good beer, but that isn't what happened. It took a hundred years to recover.

A similar effect (due the wars) was seen with Coffee. Every town of any size had an importer and roaster. The need for canned foods sort of killed the business model.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 02:40 PM (Wb0K/)

74 I also just ate a bite of brownie made with avocado oil from a client. Was not delicious. Do not recommend.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (pZEOD)

Use Abogado oil instead. The best part is, you have to crush a Mexican lawyer to get it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:41 PM (ztIZS)

75 American beer makers have lost the plot.

Look for your local microbrews. Not all of them are "All grass clippings, all the time." One of my locals, Empyrean, does a nice vanilla porter.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 28, 2024 02:42 PM (/y8xj)

76 yeah well, I'm sure the work I'm paying for this month was much cheaper 5 years ago, but, here I am

it is what it is

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:42 PM (/7KEl)

77 >>> 23 I also just ate a bite of brownie made with avocado oil from a client. Was not delicious. Do not recommend.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (pZEOD)

My brownies are made with butter.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (FnneF)

78 Wanna 1st world problem?

I'll give you a FWP!!!!

Our TV up north in Israel is not connected to cable or sat. The LG is about 13-14 years old. It requires an external digital receiver to pick up Israel's free digital TV and radio broadcasts.

Since the start of this visit, nothing is being picked up. So I brought up the receiver's menu to start from scratch and autoscan for existing channels.

All I get are 6 Syrian channels. If that wasn't bad enough, what I mostly see broadcast from Damascus is Iran's new prez, Mohammad Mokhber, and fearless leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

So, you're having a bad beer day?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (eELPT)

79 My first world problem is.... My skirts. I have two long gypsy style skirts that I love. I want to wear them outside of my house. But going out brings the possibility of using a public restroom and if skirt is not properly secured due to hurry, skirt could brush against public restroom floor or worse... Toilet. Ick!!!! Also skirts do not have pockets. This means I would have to carry a purse. I own one "handbag". Hubbymayhem and I made it. He cut the wood side pieces and I stitched the fabric on. It doesn't have a long strap so I would have to set it on floor of public toilet. Ick!!!
My life is an abyss of suffering here, people!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (4XwPj)

80 I wouldn't doubt beer in America in 1800s was exactly what Europe had

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (fwDg9)

81 69 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:38 PM (ztIZS)

Hey AOP! Fires up your way causing you any trouble? Read news about town of Jasper! Sad!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 02:45 PM (QGaXH)

82 This is available in CO, but not in TX:
https://shorturl.at/SZc4y
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:32 PM (FnneF)

First thing I see is "Non-GMO". Nope. They are pandering.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ztIZS)

83 BD - sincere condolences. Horrible what you all are going through.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 28, 2024 02:46 PM (5p7BC)

84 There are very good dried malts available or a gazillion different kinds of beer. This is sort of "cheating", the homebrewer doesn't need to boil barley and start from scratch. I can attest dried malt makes outstanding beer. I am partial to Hefe Weissen, or a good Pils.

The trick is to get an assembly line operation going, keep it going. One in the fermenter, a batch maturing in the bottle, some ready to drink right now, some in cold storage (lager). While a Lager refers to a specific style of beer, storing live-yeast brewed beer offers some improvement over time, in cold storage.

This is why beer tastes "green" when only a couple weeks old. They would brew it in the fall, and stick in the ice caves for drinking in the summer - when it is very mature tasting. Finished, and crisp. It will also knock you on your ass. 1 or 2 is plenty for me.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 02:46 PM (Wb0K/)

85 I'm not doing new cabinets. The house was built in 1951. I can tell what it used to look like. It's like they would start to do something and then leave it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 02:46 PM (xjTDL)

86 On the road again. Stopped in Castle Rock for lunch, on my way down to Colorado Springs for the week.

Don't eat at Noodles & Company
34 E Allen St, Castle Rock, CO 80108

Place is clean, and service was quick and courteous. However, the beef in the Korean beef bowl was 90% gristle. Small bowl, large drink. $20.

I've been bamboozled

And these progtarded fucks are still wearing masks and doing the 6' distancing thing. Buncha dumbasses.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 28, 2024 02:47 PM (dYUMW)

87 My brownies are made with butter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Sold!

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 02:47 PM (ftFVW)

88 >>> 82 This is available in CO, but not in TX:
https://shorturl.at/SZc4y
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:32 PM (FnneF)

First thing I see is "Non-GMO". Nope. They are pandering.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ztIZS)

Of course they are, they're in CA. It's still a good beer. But, there are some microbreweries not too far from me that might have their own reds to try.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:47 PM (FnneF)

89 No, Prohibition killed American beer brewing. Prior to that every town of any size had a brewery, and the beer wasn't bad at all.

Posted by: Common Tater

WWII the men went away to war and the women started going out to drink beer. The breweries that were left found the ladies didn't like hoppy beer so they stopped brewing with a the 'right' amount of hops.
When the guys came back the hops were not added back in because it is cheaper to brew with little to no hops.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 02:48 PM (1Gye2)

90
You've got your ale problem. I've got my cheese problem. Cheddar wasn't always Thee Cheeeze. Way back when, Cheshire -- SHIRE -- was more popular than cheddar in England. Then something happened, I can't find the website now where I read all about it, but cheddar overtook cheshire for random reasons and now production is very limited and if you want to buy cheshire you have to order it from Zingerman's, the lone American deli importer online for like $50 for a small brick.

Why do this for a cheese? Because it's SO GOOD. It makes the best cheese-and-onion pie ever. And I only dare make it when I feel like splurging insanely. Only once so far.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (lCaJd)

91 Through an extraordinary unlikely series of events, a cascading series of individual failure points, I found a 2 year old (at least) 6 pack of homebrew that I had overlooked.

In the interests of Science and Furthering Human Knowldedge, throwing caution to the wind I drank it. It tasted perfectly fine to me. I suppose the cork-sniffers would complain it was "oxidized" but the truth is beer has a lot of calories, it tasted great, and it was perfectly preserved, with hops and alcohol. If it was served at a bar, I would have ordered another without a second thought other than "Bring another round". It's a great hobby, and very fun to sample the wares.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (Wb0K/)

92 77 >>> 23 I also just ate a bite of brownie made with avocado oil from a client. Was not delicious. Do not recommend.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (pZEOD)

My brownies are made with butter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28,

As they should be. Something’s just need to stay delicious and not good for you.

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (pZEOD)

93 Brownies are best slightly burnt on edges

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (fwDg9)

94 Helena Handbasket, your brownies are what all other brownies aspire to.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2024 02:51 PM (5MvGY)

95 Drinking in the US peaked in 1830 at a per capita rate 3X today's. Rum or gin was common at breakfast.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 28, 2024 02:51 PM (Dm8we)

96 Hey AOP! Fires up your way causing you any trouble? Read news about town of Jasper! Sad!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 02:45 PM (QGaXH)

The air is thick with smoke here, but not as bad as a year or two ago. We did get some scanty rain showers over the last couple of days. Jasper is sad, but predictable. Because it is within a National Park, preventive forestry was not being done. There huge stands of standing dead pine, courtesy of the Mountain Pine Beetle. The assholes did not log it out. A huge fire was the inevitable outcome.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:51 PM (ztIZS)

97 93 Brownies are best slightly burnt on edges
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (fwDg9)

Tell me you drink Starbucks coffee without telling me you drink Starbucks coffee.

Posted by: Emmie at July 28, 2024 02:52 PM (Sf2cq)

98 I would have to set it on floor of public toilet. Ick!!!
My life is an abyss of suffering here, people!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

^^^^THIS^^^^
how freaking difficult is it to put a little shelf in the bathroom stalls where a person can set the phone, purse, what not down without it falling to the nasty floor?

Very much a 1st world problem.

We got a nice little table thingy in our downstairs 1/4 bath for storing the TP. Had a roomy flat top I immediately got used to using. Smash cluster fucked it up with a damned bowl of trinket look good smell good stuff.

#TheStruggleIsReal

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 28, 2024 02:52 PM (dYUMW)

99 those Ghirardelli brownie mixes are very good

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 02:52 PM (/7KEl)

100 > I thought about bugging out many times, but at my advanced age I don't think I'm up to a complete upheaval and reset somewhere else
Posted by: Don Black
---------
I'm on the same wavelength... however, as I've lamented before on this blog, our daughter from CA and her family are relocating here. To my house.

But... we did find them someplace to live. Hopefully at the end of August or early September they'll have their own place.

I just hope my blood pressure doesn't kill before then.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 02:52 PM (Q4IgG)

101 Yeah, if I'm going to "sin" by eating junk food, it had better be good. The real deal, whatever it is. Say, Ice cream, is just cream, sugar, maybe eggs, salt, vanilla. Chocolate syrup.

No seaweed derivatives, no carageenan, no DHT, no sawdust, no weird artificial chemicals, no high fructose corn syrup. Life is too short to eat ersatz or field expedients.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 02:53 PM (Wb0K/)

102 Brownies are best slightly burnt on edges
Posted by: Skip

Yes. Hard on the edges and corners.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 02:54 PM (Rm1xR)

103
NBC finds yet another way to make me not want to watch the Olympics: https://tinyurl.com/yc7fs4h9
Posted by: Lizzy

==========

"This big, bold, beautiful, (slight cringe, signaling to Those Who Know) *complicated* nation..."

How about "This great nation"?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 02:55 PM (lCaJd)

104 I made cornbread once, and forgot to add any oil - butter is the usual.

They tasted OK, but they were like rubber sponges. Reminded me exactly of my poor friends who had wack job parents who only ate weird stuff that was "healthy". You know, brussel sprout smoothies and springwater for breakfast. They would bring cookies or something from home that were inedible, and only passable as a brick if actually consumed.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (Wb0K/)

105 As they should be. Something’s just need to stay delicious and not good for you.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:49 PM (pZEOD)

Helena makes her brownies with butter, not industrial seed oils.

Posted by: Emmie at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (Sf2cq)

106 No FWP's here. A customer just brought me a bottle of Balvenie

Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (5MvGY)

107 My First World Problem:

My building has a shared washer dryer. The guy who lives downstairs WFH 100%. Why does he do his laundry on the weekends? It's the only time I'm able to do laundry. He's home all freaking week!

Asshole.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (HXGNm)

108
Brownies are best slightly burnt on edges
Posted by: Skip

============

Please leave.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (lCaJd)

109 77 >>> 23 I also just ate a bite of brownie made with avocado oil from a client. Was not delicious. Do not recommend.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 02:14 PM (pZEOD)

My brownies are made with butter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024

That's the God intended brownies to be made, with butter. Yum.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 28, 2024 02:57 PM (uHd5d)

110 I think my last beer was a Yingling Pilsner pint. Months ago.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4IgG)

Yeungling is great. Mass produced but doesn't taste like it.

Posted by: No I am not on their payroll at July 28, 2024 02:59 PM (lRx9h)

111 My building has a shared washer dryer. The guy who lives downstairs WFH 100%. Why does he do his laundry on the weekends? It's the only time I'm able to do laundry. He's home all freaking week!

Asshole.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Gah, what a jerk! That was one of the best parts of WFH, not having to do laundry and dishes in the evening or on weekends.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 02:59 PM (ftFVW)

112 108
Brownies are best slightly burnt on edges
Posted by: Skip

============

Please leave.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (lCaJd)

Now now, there's room for edge piece people and middle piece people here in the brownie tent.

Posted by: Big brownie tent party at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (lRx9h)

113 ^^^THIS^^^^
how freaking difficult is it to put a little shelf in the bathroom stalls where a person can set the phone, purse, what not down without it falling to the nasty floor?

Very much a 1st world problem. -----

Lot of bathrooms in public buildings have the toilet paper metal dispenser that acts as a shelf and also have hooks on the door.

Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (B1dzx)

114 alright then
later

Posted by: Don Black at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (/7KEl)

115 I generally use olive oil or canola oil. I don't use either very often and only a bit. But brownies require oil. Olive give and odd flavor and canola is considered a bad oil. What else can I use?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

116 >>> 115 I generally use olive oil or canola oil. I don't use either very often and only a bit. But brownies require oil. Olive give and odd flavor and canola is considered a bad oil. What else can I use?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

You really should come to the TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 03:01 PM (FnneF)

117 Jiffy cornbread is one of those only in America things. Like Kraft Mac n cheese.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM (Rm1xR)

118 Best part of brownies is cleaning the bowl and beaters.

Posted by: Reforger at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM (xcIvR)

119 The air is thick with smoke here, but not as bad as a year or two ago. We did get some scanty rain showers over the last couple of days. Jasper is sad, but predictable. Because it is within a National Park, preventive forestry was not being done. There huge stands of standing dead pine, courtesy of the Mountain Pine Beetle. The assholes did not log it out. A huge fire was the inevitable outcome.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:51

I hate the smoke. We have a fire here but it's burning away from people in the San Rafael Wilderness. It needs to burn. Poor management of forests and no prescribed burns are making fires worse, not climate.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM (uHd5d)

120 I generally use olive oil or canola oil. I don't use either very often and only a bit. But brownies require oil. Olive give and odd flavor and canola is considered a bad oil. What else can I use?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

Avocado oil is neutral

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 28, 2024 03:03 PM (GJEVE)

121 117 Jiffy cornbread is one of those only in America things. Like Kraft Mac n cheese.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM (Rm1xR)

It's not bad you just have to be very careful not to overbake it and dry it out.

Posted by: thin line between bread and crumbs at July 28, 2024 03:03 PM (lRx9h)

122 120 I generally use olive oil or canola oil. I don't use either very often and only a bit. But brownies require oil. Olive give and odd flavor and canola is considered a bad oil. What else can I use?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

Sunflower oil.. High temp and good for you..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024 03:04 PM (IyPmt)

123 Indiana to Texas?
Not a people person?
Fat, homely old broad with a tattoo?

Yeh, I'm thinking I will give the MoMeets a big old miss. I don't like being judged.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (4XwPj)

124 You could splurge and use Kerry gold butter. They don't even sell it by the pound, try not to look at the price.

I live in Iowa, the cheapest butter is OK. But, if you were to measure the actual butterfat content, it would be exactly what the legal limit (minimum solids) is by law, and not a molecule more. They sell it, and use butterfat for other things.

Keep in mind the moisture content when making cookies or anything else, the recipes assume fat - not substitutues. Bacon grease works pretty well, but it has zero moisture compared to margarine, that might be half water. I haven't had anything turn out "too greasy" using typical amounts in cookies. It might be interesting in brownies. Even try a blend of half and half.

Canola is a paint industry derivative. Take a whiff when it oxidizes. It smells like varnish. Hydrogenated. Small quantities only. It sucks for popcorn, which incidentally bacon grease is excellent for popping corn. I like Coconut oil too. I bet that is OK for brownies.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (Wb0K/)

125 Like Kraft Mac n cheese.
Posted by: Mr. Ray

I grew up eating Kraft dinner, in Canada.

Posted by: old chick at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (F3Dlr)

126 122 120 I generally use olive oil or canola oil. I don't use either very often and only a bit. But brownies require oil. Olive give and odd flavor and canola is considered a bad oil. What else can I use?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

Sunflower oil.. High temp and good for you..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024

Coconut oil.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (HXGNm)

127
there's room for edge piece people and middle piece people here in the brownie tent.
Posted by: Big brownie tent party

===========

The trouble is, these edge-burners take up more than their share of room in the tent. They leave less quality brownie for us normies. We're exiled to the center of the pan, where there is less territory, and the edge-burners get NINE PIECES.

By the way, I always thought edge-burning was an accident. A horror. A thing to be scraped off and thrown away. Never did I imagine there were people who LIKED it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (lCaJd)

128 Coconut oil.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (HXGNm)

Another good one

Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024 03:06 PM (IyPmt)

129 Speaking of First-World problems....

Does anyone here have a suggestion for repairing my sink backsplash? It's ancient Arborite (or some competing product), sort of turquoise green with sparkles in it. Almost surely non-available new. I don't want to refinish the entire kitchen. The panel curled and popped off the plaster backing board. I tried to press it flat, without success.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:07 PM (ztIZS)

130 Yeh, I'm thinking I will give the MoMeets a big old miss. I don't like being judged.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Don't let the tat denigration up in here dissuade you. Mine have been quite well received and a fun conversation starter. And you can easily find quiet places to decompress or talk to folks one on one. Highly recommend!

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 03:07 PM (ftFVW)

131 There huge stands of standing dead pine, courtesy of the Mountain Pine Beetle. The assholes did not log it out. A huge fire was the inevitable outcome.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:51 PM (ztIZS)

Same situation in our local mountains. Fires haven't seemed as bad the past few years - either we've had wetter summers or all the dead stuff finally burned to the ground. Or both!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:08 PM (QGaXH)

132 Sheesh.
I think my FWP is I don't guest write enough to write off trips to jolly ol England just to sit in pubs and take pictures of beer taps.
*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:08 PM (W/lyH)

133 Will check out sunflower oil. Thanks for the recommendations folk!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:08 PM (4XwPj)

134 My brownies are made with butter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (FnneF)

This is the way.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 28, 2024 03:08 PM (OX9vb)

135 The air is thick with smoke here, but not as bad as a year or two ago. We did get some scanty rain showers over the last couple of days. Jasper is sad, but predictable. Because it is within a National Park, preventive forestry was not being done. There huge stands of standing dead pine, courtesy of the Mountain Pine Beetle. The assholes did not log it out. A huge fire was the inevitable outcome.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------------------------

Saw clouds swirling over your place on satellite the other day - thought it was rain. Cyclonic shape was curious. Guess it was the fire smoke.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2024 03:08 PM (YMXsV)

136 134 My brownies are made with butter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 28, 2024 02:43 PM (FnneF)

Mine too.. For chocolate overload I add chocolate chips and chocolate frosting.. About a million calories and carbs

Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024 03:09 PM (IyPmt)

137 123
Yeh, I'm thinking I will give the MoMeets a big old miss. I don't like being judged.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024

Because the rest of us are super models?

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 03:09 PM (QzINz)

138
You could splurge and use Kerry gold butter. They don't even sell it by the pound, try not to look at the price.

===========

I do. It's a pretty good approximation. And I try not to look at the price. I just checked, and Zingerman's Cheshire supply is currently out. Not coming back until October.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 03:09 PM (lCaJd)

139 Best part of brownies is cleaning the bowl and beaters.
Posted by: Reforger at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM (xcIvR)

This is known!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:09 PM (W/lyH)

140 Hi Donna!

My other not so quite forst world, but still a problem,

I have to wash all my bedding, down to the mattress cover. Lucy the Fink puked big time all over my bed. Soaked through everything. I crawled in at 11 last night and knelt in a big puddle of goo.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:10 PM (HXGNm)

141 Crisco, corn oil, canola, they all disagree with my gut. When I trended overweight to obese, it would lock me up too, and probably indigestible in an already overworked digestive system. When eating 3000 calories plus a day it's tough to zero in on what exactly is causing Distress.

Animal fats, and coconut oil are tolerated MUCH better. I suspect Olive oil is OK too, if you can find it. No sodas, no sugary drinks, no corn syrup, and no seed-oils or artificial fats goes a long way to cutting back when reducing. And your cooking will improve noticeably, the
flavors. Let's just make this the sub-Gainzz thread, that was cruelly omitted this week!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:10 PM (Wb0K/)

142 I like less fudgy brownies in favor of the more dry brownies.

Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:11 PM (B1dzx)

143 ...tapping also is not the simple process that we all (except for Garrett, who learned how to make Cosmopolitans) learned at a young age.

Oh well there's a problem. Everyone knows Cosmos.are.soooo 2021. It's all about Brandy Alexanders now.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:11 PM (W/lyH)

144 I like less fudgy brownies in favor of the more dry brownies.
Posted by: polynikes

Do you mean cake?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (ftFVW)

145 My other not so quite forst world, but still a problem,

I have to wash all my bedding, down to the mattress cover. Lucy the Fink puked big time all over my bed. Soaked through everything. I crawled in at 11 last night and knelt in a big puddle of goo.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:10 PM (HXGNm)

Yuck.. The things we tolerate from our pets

Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (IyPmt)

146 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:10 PM (HXGNm)

This is when a guy would just throw it all away and start over.

Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (B1dzx)

147 Can you make brownies from carob?

Maybe that's the right ingredient to use with olive oil.

Posted by: Trollin', Trollin, Trollin' at July 28, 2024 03:13 PM (AUL7F)

148 They really hop up ales to hide the shitty taste of ale yeast.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 28, 2024 03:13 PM (wBaIH)

149 Madamemayhem., pecan or almond oil

Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (5MvGY)

150 Yeh, I'm thinking I will give the MoMeets a big old miss. I don't like being judged.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (4XwPj)

Nah, it's not like that there. Come on, you can sit by me and we'll compare tats.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (OX9vb)

151 Brownie edges are delicious and should not be ruined by burning them.

Posted by: Emmie at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (Sf2cq)

152 Do you mean cake?
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (ftFVW)

I see you lean fudgy. 😀

Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (B1dzx)

153
I do. It's a pretty good approximation. And I try not to look at the price. I just checked, and Zingerman's Cheshire supply is currently out. Not coming back until October.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2024 03:09

I love cheese, I'm going to see if I can pick some up locally. I've never tried that, I googled it and it sounds really good.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (uHd5d)

154 119 There huge stands of standing dead pine, courtesy of the Mountain Pine Beetle. The assholes did not log it out. A huge fire was the inevitable outcome.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 02:51 PM (ztIZS)

Another sadzz example of using our tax money to create problems - poor forest management - which then requires more tax money to solve - climate change scam!

Why do forests need to be 'managed'? They've been here at least 10000 years since last Ice Age. For 9950 of those years they did just fine on their own...

FWP indeed!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (jYJUI)

155 Canola is a paint industry derivative. Take a whiff when it oxidizes. It smells like varnish. Hydrogenated. Small quantities only. It sucks for popcorn, which incidentally bacon grease is excellent for popping corn. I like Coconut oil too. I bet that is OK for brownies.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (Wb0K/)

Canola is nothing more nor less than rapeseed oil, from a line of plants that was selectively bred to reduce the erucic acid (non palatable) content of the oil to near-zero. We see a lot of GMO canola now, but the GMO work was to make the plant play well with the use of Glyphosate, and had nothing to do with the seed oil. They grow Canola near me, usually in a 2-3 year rotation with cereal crops or field peas.

It is an acceptable cooking oil, neither the best nor the worst of the lot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:15 PM (ztIZS)

156 Sunflower oil is hydrogenated?

No more chemistry set foods for me, uh-uh

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:15 PM (Wb0K/)

157 I make brownies with cocoa and use Kerry Gold butter.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 03:15 PM (xjTDL)

158 156 Sunflower oil is hydrogenated?

Don't think so.. Not the one I get from Trader Joes

Posted by: It's me donna at July 28, 2024 03:15 PM (IyPmt)

159 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:10 PM (HXGNm)

This is when a guy would just throw it all away and start over.
Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (B1dzx
***

Yup!
I've a pretty strong stomach and have seen a lot of stuff...but when 'ol Joe yaks, it's all I can do not to heave. Even the sound is nasty.
Ugh.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:16 PM (W/lyH)

160 107 My First World Problem:

My building has a shared washer dryer. The guy who lives downstairs WFH 100%. Why does he do his laundry on the weekends? It's the only time I'm able to do laundry. He's home all freaking week!

Asshole.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 02:56 PM (HXGNm)

Maybe some brownies and a note explaining the issue? Be sure to crisp the edges of the brownies....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:16 PM (QGaXH)

161 is it safe to come back?

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 03:17 PM (fwDg9)

162 Another sadzz example of using our tax money to create problems - poor forest management - which then requires more tax money to solve - climate change scam!

Why do forests need to be 'managed'? They've been here at least 10000 years since last Ice Age. For 9950 of those years they did just fine on their own...

FWP indeed!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:14 PM (jYJUI)

Fire was a natural part of the cycle. Build a town in the forest, you now have an interest in there not being fire close to the town. So you log out standing dead, and clear the understory to simulate the renewal brought by fire, without there being a fire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:17 PM (ztIZS)

163 Canola is nothing more nor less than rapeseed oil,

I do NOT want to know how they harvest that!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:18 PM (W/lyH)

164 Keep seeing YouTube videos if you see this organism Run!
How about if you see this organism, fire is your first option

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 03:19 PM (fwDg9)

165 Canola is nothing more nor less than rapeseed oil, from a line of plants that was selectively bred to reduce the erucic acid (non palatable) content of the oil to near-zero. We see a lot of GMO canola now, but the GMO work was to make the plant play well with the use of Glyphosate, and had nothing to do with the seed oil. They grow Canola near me, usually in a 2-3 year rotation with cereal crops or field peas.

It is an acceptable cooking oil, neither the best nor the worst of the lot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28

It make a pretty yellow field.

And most people don't know how it was named Canola. Of course Rape oil not a very marketable name.

Canola is a mashup of Canada Oil.

Posted by: polynikes at July 28, 2024 03:19 PM (B1dzx)

166 Down with the edge-burners!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 03:19 PM (4Med0)

167 Canola is nothing more nor less than rapeseed oil,

I do NOT want to know how they harvest that!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:18 PM (W/lyH)

Unwillingly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 03:20 PM (4Med0)

168 I like less fudgy brownies in favor of the more dry brownies.
Posted by: polynikes

Do you mean cake?
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 28, 2024 03:12 PM (ftFVW)

Lol.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 03:20 PM (Rm1xR)

169 AOP, I know Canola, it is considered edible. It is hydrogenated, or solvent process extracted and chemically treated to be liquid at room temperature.

I couldn't figure out why I was getting sick everytime I made popcorn. I used this as a snack, and a source of fiber. Crisco, Canola, Corn oil, anything like that would have the opposite effect on my digestive system. And they all taste like shit for popcorn. Coconut oil is really benign in small amounts, and it is kickass for popcorn. Butter or bacon drippings, and beef tallow for gravy, etc.

I avoid microwave popcorn for a similar reason, the fats are golly knows what. I often eat less than a 1000 calories a day for maintenance, so I'm picky about what I do eat. Not really snobby, just careful that they are easy on my body, it becomes very noticeable if there's something allergenic or "off".

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:21 PM (Wb0K/)

170 Yeh, I'm thinking I will give the MoMeets a big old miss. I don't like being judged.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 28, 2024 03:05 PM (4XwPj)

You just judged yourself, and probably more harshly than any of us at a MoMee would do.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:21 PM (ztIZS)

171 I've a pretty strong stomach and have seen a lot of stuff...but when 'ol Joe yaks, it's all I can do not to heave. Even the sound is nasty.
Ugh.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:16 PM (W/lyH)

I used to be the designated puke cleaner-upper when my sons were little.

But cleaning the cat's litter box is no-go. That's for the Missus. I gag and dry-heave like crazy. Might be a combo of the cat-smell and the kitty litter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Shopping at Bloodbath and Beyond at July 28, 2024 03:21 PM (Ad8y9)

172 Note: There was no weight or tat shaming at the Txmome that I attended.
There were comments on tats; but, they were not derogatory.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 03:23 PM (1Gye2)

173 More in the spirit of the thread - my FWP was replacing the battery in the key fob remote for the aftermarket door lock from RVLock I installed on my camper door. It was devilishly difficult to disassemble with three TINY screws and multiple little pieces. On reassembly it wouldn't work right. Finally, by trial and error and some rudimentary logic I found that while I was assembling the pieces correctly - it was the order in which I reassembled them that mattered.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:24 PM (QGaXH)

174 I do NOT want to know how they harvest that!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2024 03:18 PM (W/lyH)

The same combine harvesters that they use for wheat and other grains. I don't know if they have to change cylinders in the combine or not. Canola seed is red-brown to black, and it is small round seeds the grow in a single row in pods like tiny pea pods.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:25 PM (ztIZS)

175 Jiffy cornbread is one of those only in America things. Like Kraft Mac n cheese.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 03:02 PM

Jiffy cornbread is the only cornbread we use. I have been eating Jiffy cornbread for over 66 years now.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 28, 2024 03:29 PM (QNSds)

176 Peanut oil is pretty good for frying.

Notice there isn't enough peanut oil to make a jar of peanut butter, it needs extra. I noticed Canola is the culprit when it comes to foods going bad due to oxidation. It is a less expensive source of fat, cookies and other snacks used to use Palm oil, that is very shelf stable but isn't considered as "healthy". Peanut butter will start to go off in odor and flavor depending on what railroad car of oil they use.

Random thought - it was a huge story at the time, but overshadowed by Kennedy being killed. Called the "Great Salad Oil Swindle" about a tank farm in New Jersery full of salad oil and futures trades, and an elaborate system of pipes to transfer oil between the big containers.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:30 PM (Wb0K/)

177 107 My First World Problem:

My building has a shared washer dryer. The guy who lives downstairs WFH 100%. Why does he do his laundry on the weekends? It's the only time I'm able to do laundry. He's home all freaking week!

Asshole.
Posted by: nurse ratched

I understand your aggravation. I've been retired a good,long, while and my policy is to avoid shopping and getting in the way of people who work on their time off on the weekends.

Posted by: Uncle Joe, Movin' Kinda Slow at July 28, 2024 03:33 PM (CV8a5)

178 Called the "Great Salad Oil Swindle" about a tank farm in New Jersery full of salad oil and futures trades, and an elaborate system of pipes to transfer oil between the big containers.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:30 PM (Wb0K/)

Ah! The Pisspot Dome Scandal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:34 PM (ztIZS)

179 I used to be able to get Jiffy cake mix and frosting. Was nice if you didn't want a big cake. You can get their brownie mix if you order their sampler pack. It's a good company.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 28, 2024 03:35 PM (xjTDL)

180 Well, time to go back outside. There is uncut grass taunting me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 28, 2024 03:35 PM (ztIZS)

181 there's room for edge piece people and middle piece people here in the brownie tent.
Posted by: Big brownie tent party
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The trouble is, these edge-burners take up more than their share of room in the tent. They leave less quality brownie for us normies. We're exiled to the center of the pan, where there is less territory, and the edge-burners get NINE PIECES.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Ah, that's your first-world problem. Your brownie pan is too small. How can you have more edge pieces than middle pieces? Inconceivable!

Posted by: mikeski at July 28, 2024 03:36 PM (DgGvY)

182 What surprised me, while I like cornbread, I decided that in a similar way Tortilla would be an easy bread substitute. Great for hiking.

I thought it was just raw flour with fat or shortening cut-in. Oh no, it is a yeast "bread" and has to rise and be worked just like making a bread. And then it has to be rolled out super thin. Sounds like more work than bread!?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:38 PM (Wb0K/)

183 If there's ham and bean soup there better be corn bread or we're having issues.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 03:38 PM (Q4IgG)

184 181 Ah, that's your first-world problem. Your brownie pan is too small. How can you have more edge pieces than middle pieces? Inconceivable!
Posted by: mikeski at July 28, 2024 03:36 PM (DgGvY)

Cut the brownies smaller - rectangles, not squares.

"That word! I don't believe you know what it means...."

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:40 PM (QGaXH)

185 There are special-purpose cast iron cornbread pans made that are segmented into slices - it makes for many many more crispy edges than would otherwise be the case.

Maybe some Brownie enthusiast has invented something comparable to this.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:41 PM (Wb0K/)

186 183 What surprised me, while I like cornbread, I decided that in a similar way Tortilla would be an easy bread substitute. Great for hiking.

I thought it was just raw flour with fat or shortening cut-in. Oh no, it is a yeast "bread" and has to rise and be worked just like making a bread. And then it has to be rolled out super thin. Sounds like more work than bread!?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 28

Flour, salt, water and lard for authentic flour tortillas.

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 03:42 PM (QzINz)

187 Now I am hungry for brownies and corn bread

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 03:43 PM (fwDg9)

188 how freaking difficult is it to put a little shelf in the bathroom stalls where a person can set the phone, purse, what not down without it falling to the nasty floor?

So... how heavy is that purse anyway...?

Posted by: Hook with 25 lb or less load rating at July 28, 2024 03:43 PM (kvrZb)

189 Your brownie pan is too small. How can you have more edge pieces than middle pieces? Inconceivable!

Posted by: mikeski at July 28, 2024 03:36 PM (DgGvY)

Check the Food Thread for a photo of a pan that does just that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 28, 2024 03:43 PM (d9fT1)

190 My life is an abyss of suffering here, people!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Have you considered please... the belt bag.

Posted by: Medieval Carrying Solutions, Inc at July 28, 2024 03:45 PM (kvrZb)

191 What I'm getting at

There is no labor incentive to make a Tortilla, the way it sort of looks, like it got ran over by a car or whatever.

See where I'm goin' with that?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:45 PM (Wb0K/)

192 188 Flour, salt, water and lard for authentic flour tortillas.
Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 03:42 PM (QzINz)

I saw Fluor, salt, water and lard open for....mumble mumble at more mumble.. back in '78...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:46 PM (QGaXH)

193 Cornbread

1 tablespoon bacon drippings
2 cups cornmeal OR 1 1/2 cups cornmeal and 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
1 large egg, optional
1 1/4 cups buttermilk
6 tablespoons unsalted butter, melted

Whisk dry ingredients, whisk all wet except butter. Pour wet into dry until mixed. Add in melted butter. Pour into heated cast iron skillet (put it in while oven preheats to 400 with the bacon drippings). Bake 20 minutes.

Cornbread shouldn’t be sweet. 😊

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 03:46 PM (pRpzT)

194 Just returned home so late to recommendations. 1554 beer by New Belgium Brewing. Good stuff.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 28, 2024 03:46 PM (2NHgQ)

195 The dough needs to be kneaded. We all need to be kneaded. Er, needed. I have a stand mixer, but I would probably make a loaf of bread for all the trouble, I dunno.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:47 PM (Wb0K/)

196 Another sadzz example of using our tax money to create problems - poor forest management - which then requires more tax money to solve - climate change scam!

Why do forests need to be 'managed'?

Because there are people in them.

And the tribes had been managing them by burning the undergrowth for centuries before anyone got scientific about it.

Made better habitat for the food they hunted.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 28, 2024 03:47 PM (kvrZb)

197
See where I'm goin' with that?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 28,

Tortilla press if you don’t want to roll them out. It takes about 30 secs to roll them out once you have your rhythm. They may look like amoebas but will taste good. .

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 03:47 PM (pRpzT)

198 https://www.thenewneo.com/i hate small kleenex boxes
Neo's FWP

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 03:52 PM (fwDg9)

199 Only one option. Sell the house.

Posted by: Weasel at July 28, 2024 03:52 PM (RG6z4)

200 I understand your aggravation. I've been retired a good,long, while and my policy is to avoid shopping and getting in the way of people who work on their time off on the weekends.
Posted by: Uncle Joe, Movin' Kinda Slow

Thank you, sir. Much appreciated.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:52 PM (HXGNm)

201 198 Because there are people in them.

And the tribes had been managing them by burning the undergrowth for centuries before anyone got scientific about it.

Made better habitat for the food they hunted.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 28, 2024 03:47 PM (kvrZb)

I see I was not clear in my musings...

Certainly property and life protection are valid reasons but I would assert that 98% of the forest is uninhabited (by us). Other than reasonable buffer-zones - why not just 'let it be'?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 28, 2024 03:53 PM (QGaXH)

202 That looks like a good cornbread recipe bill there. Just use 1 stick of butter! It's easier to remember that way, ha!

I think chocolate cake recipes, some of them use sour cream or something like that to make it more rich. I like the really chocolatey chocolate cake with chocolatey frosting. My efforts at chocolatey chocolate baked goods are less than I'd like but consumed nonetheless or none the more, really.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:54 PM (Wb0K/)

203 There's a kid swimming in the 100 m breast stroke. Last name FINK!

Let's go FINK!

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:54 PM (HXGNm)

204 FINK SHARES A SILVER! Whoohoo!

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 03:54 PM (q4Gku)

205 Honey cornbread is fantastic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 03:55 PM (4Med0)

206 My wife makes "mush" periodically. It's really just cooked cornmeal. Like grits. Sort of. Pretty bland, but add whatever to them and with a good breakfast meat and eggs it's a good wintertime meal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2024 03:56 PM (Q4IgG)

207 BD - sincere condolences. Horrible what you all are going through.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 28, 2024 02:46 PM (5p7BC)
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There's a certain calm before something else or other here.

Almost 23:00. Lights out.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 28, 2024 03:56 PM (eELPT)

208 "The panel curled and popped off the plaster backing board. I tried to press it flat, without success.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon "

You can get formica adhesive. It's basically a giant can of rubber cement.
Once you have the glued surfaces stuck to each other, you'll need a roller to get them to really adhere, though.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 28, 2024 03:58 PM (kvrZb)

209 Why are the Parisians so obsessed with "reudcing their carbon footprint" during the Olympics for Olympic venues when they get 70%+ of their electricity from nukes?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 28, 2024 03:58 PM (8sMut)

210 I've been told fat black women in the South make the best cornbread.

I can't wait that long just give me a box of Jiffy.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 28, 2024 03:59 PM (Rm1xR)

211 No, "let it be" was the last album by the Beatles or whatever.

The forests were actually managed better when logging and resource extraction was a thing. The big corporations had their own firefighting capability to some degree. All that went away along with the logging. Active fire suppression on the other hand, causes huge buildup.

Some historical models of precipitation indicate the West has been in a noticeably wetter time period for a while, but a return to a more average just means drought.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 28, 2024 03:59 PM (Wb0K/)

212 Food nood

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2024 04:01 PM (1Gye2)

213 Piper,
Is cornmeal gluten free? My DiL was just diagnosed celiac. I want to be as supportive as possible when/if they can make it home for Thanksgiving. Cornbread dressing is the bomb.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 04:01 PM (HXGNm)

214 get washed up and upstairs
FOODIE NOODIE

Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2024 04:01 PM (fwDg9)

215 Why are the Parisians so obsessed with "reudcing their carbon footprint" during the Olympics for Olympic venues when they get 70%+ of their electricity from nukes?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 28, 2024 03:58 PM (8sMut)

The city is full of socialist assholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 04:02 PM (4Med0)

216 The country is full of socialist assholes.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2024 04:02 PM (4Med0)

FIFY

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 28, 2024 04:03 PM (8sMut)

217 Cornbread shouldn’t be sweet. 😊
Posted by: Piper
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Blasphemer!

Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2024 04:06 PM (YMXsV)

218 98% of the forest is uninhabited (by us). Other than reasonable buffer-zones - why not just 'let it be'?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

A fair portion of the uninhabited forest is actually someone's crop.
That's where we get all the wood we build with is managed forests. Most of those are privately owned either by wood product companies or by private landowners who have their land logged and sell the logs to lumber mills.

The places that get left alone tend to be federal lands, and they get left alone because "Oh those pristine naturals forests!" and also the Forest Service gets better congressional appropriations when a catastrophic fire happens.

And then a fire happens, spreads onto managed lands destroying people's crop, and the environuts get involved to prevent anyone from logging the burned federal lands - apparently even fire-damaged timber can be salvaged - until the timber is completely ruined by time and weather, and then you have a head start on the fuel overload for the next catastrophic fire.

Honestly, I think we'd have fewer large fires if the states would eminent domain the federal forestland away from the feds.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 28, 2024 04:07 PM (kvrZb)

219 Piper,
Is cornmeal gluten free? My DiL was just diagnosed celiac. I want to be as supportive as possible when/if they can make it home for Thanksgiving. Cornbread dressing is the bomb.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 28, 2024 04:01 PM (HXGNm)
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Gluten only occurs in wheat. Therefore, cornmeal is gluten free.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at July 28, 2024 04:10 PM (3Fz6p)

220
Honestly, I think we'd have fewer large fires if the states would eminent domain the federal forestland away from the feds.

Posted by: FeatherBlade

Take all federal real estate, buildings and what not out of the feds' hands and make them pay rent to use them. Treat them like the profligate and wasteful spenders that they are. Put them on starvation rations.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 28, 2024 04:17 PM (xG4kz)

221 222 Cornbread shouldn’t be sweet. 😊
Posted by: Piper
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Blasphemer!
Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2024

Nope, just a southerner. 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 28, 2024 04:19 PM (QzINz)

222 Bach is the Welsh adjective meaning small (masculine). The feminine is fach (pronounced vach) as in the song Sospan fach (little saucepan).

Hereford (the county town) is the home of the SAS.

4.6% is about average for British beers although Brewdog made Tactical Nuclear Penguin which came in at an ABV of 32%. This was achieved by repeated freezing and removal of the ice.

Posted by: Clovis Sangrail at July 28, 2024 04:28 PM (Yrrxc)

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