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The Polls Show an Absolute Catastrophe for Democrats Coming, But Biden Seemingly Threatens Democrats That If He Goes, They All Go

Via Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: Is Biden threatening other Democrats with Mutually Assured Destruction if they don't fall in line?



President Biden hasn't made much progress convincing Democrats he's still equipped to take on Donald Trump since their debate. But he's made headway on another front: Making clear he will take the entire party down with him if they don't stop trying to replace him.

In a letter to Congress on Monday, just as members were arriving for the first time since the debate to potentially share their grievances, Biden warned: "The question of how to move forward has been well-aired for over a week now. And it's time for it to end."

In a phone interview on Morning Joe around the same time, he denounced the "elites" who he accused of trying to push him out -- his most combative language yet.

"If any of these guys think I shouldn't run, run against me -- go ahead, announce for president," he said. "Challenge me at the convention."

The message coming from the White House is clear: Biden isn't going anywhere, and if you come after him you'll be the one who gets blamed for undermining the party's general election chances.

A presidential candidate rallying supporters to stop party "elites" from trying to oust him is a familiar scene -- if you've followed Donald Trump's career.

The article goes into a Muh Trump digression, noting that Trump has threatened to run as an independent if he wasn't given the nomination.


...

What Biden can do is be stubborn in a way that sets up a scenario of mutually assured destruction for Democrats. So long as opponents of his nomination believe it's impossible to force him to step aside, any escalation of their criticism risks damaging him even further in November. And the worse his standing gets, the more his party is likely to suffer up and down the ballot.

Democrats don't sound entirely ready to believe him -- for now....


It's not a very appetizing prospect. If Biden really is willing to fight a Democratic civil war, it would mean heading into convention season with key chunks of the party on the record with doubts about their nominee and pro-Biden factions accusing them of sabotage, all while Republicans quietly sit back and munch popcorn. Biden has been working hard to line up support from Black Democrats and labor -- Congressional Black Caucus Chair Steven Horsford backed Biden Monday -- setting up a potentially uncomfortable race and class dynamic to the fight as well.

Kevin McCarthy decided to be useful -- years too late.

Steve Ferguson
@lsferguson

Kevin McCarthy just disclosed Jill Biden was in meetings with him while he was Speaker. This is chilling

So Biden needs his mommywife nurse with him during meetings.

No wonder she is determined that Biden remain in office -- she's the illegal acting president.

Soothsayer speculated that Jill Biden might be angling to replace Biden on the ticket. With herself.

Hooboy, can you even imagine? America would be run by a real real-life doctor!!! I'm so happy for us.

The Semafor article quotes a Democrat House member, Ritchie Torres, who points out the obvious: If you keep calling Biden unfit for office and he doesn't step aside, you've guaranteed he will lose.

But many Democrats already think he's guaranteed to lose, or almost guaranteed.

And they have reason to believe that. Democrats leaked their own internal polling to show how badly Biden is doing. In the leaked poll, Biden is losing every single swing state and some non-swing states, too.

I mentioned earlier that an AARP poll has Trump wining Wisconsin.

By seven points.

Former President Donald Trump leads President Joe Biden by 7 points among voters 50 and over in the key battleground state of Wisconsin, according to a poll released Tuesday by the American Association of Retired Persons.

With voters 50 and over in Wisconsin, Trump leads Biden 48% to 41%. Trump leads by 15 points among those in the 50-64 age range, while the candidates are tied at 45% each when taken from those voters aged 65 and over. Women overall favor Biden by 8 points while men 18 and over prefer Trump by 22 points.

...


The importance of the poll was not lost on longtime political experts. Commenting on the Wisconsin survey, Ronald Brownstein, senior editor of The Atlantic and a CNN political analyst, called the findings a "brutal poll" in the "best of the blue wall states." Jacob Rubashkin, deputy editor of Inside Elections, called the survey "bleak" for Biden.

Gen X is Best Gen.

Biden claims that the polls always misunderestimate him.

CNN's poll analyst Harry Enten explains that that claim is completely false. The polls have consistently underestimated Trump's actual levels of support, not Biden's. Polls have consistently overestimated not just Biden's level of support, but every single Democrat's level of support going back to the 2004 Bush-Kerry race.

He stresses that no Republican has led the national polling in July in 20 years.

ENTEN: We talk about the presidential race. Last time around, Donald Trump actually did better in the results than his July polls by five points. You go back to 2016. You see something very similar. That is the July polls actually underestimated Donald Trump. He outperformed his July polls. So, the idea in the Trump era that the polls have underestimated Democrats, whether it be in a Joe Biden matchup, whether it be a matchup against Hillary Clinton, whether it be in the midterms, at least in the national polling that right now shows Donald Trump in the strongest position, simply put, is not true. ...

So, let's go all the way back. Who lead in early July polls? Well, right now, Donald Trump is ahead. Go back in 2020, a Democrat, Biden. In 2016, Hillary Clinton, a Democrat. 2008, 2012, a Democrat. Even in 2004, where George W. Bush ended up winning, John Kerry was actually ahead in the polls at this point. You have to go all the way back to 2000, to George W. Bush being ahead in the early July polls, you have to go all the way back to the end of the 20th century, beginning of the 21st century, to find a Republican ahead at this. Twenty-four years. At this particular point, the idea that a Democrat is ahead, there are voters in the electric who are dealing with a poll position they have never seen before. And that is a Republican leading in the national popular vote, at least according to the polls.

Doctor President Jill Biden snapped at reporters for impertinently asking questions:

As someone pointed out: Democrats are so accustomed to fawning, protective, promotional "press coverage" that they just absolutely lose it the moment a "journalist" asks them a question they haven't pre-screened and pre-approved.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:41 PM




Comments

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1 !

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 09, 2024 03:41 PM (U+vfz)

2 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (rbKZ6)

3 You know what Winston Wolf would say not to do...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (U+vfz)

4 Sad story.

Got a smoke?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

5 I'll go get em...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (U+vfz)

6 We’ve got inverted box color…

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (9mfKN)

7 So Biden needs his mommywife nurse with him during meetings.

=======

Joe needed her around...2 years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

8 I’m a fan of just going right ahead and holding the elections anyway. Just to double check.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (Nt9p1)

9 rats, barely top ten. lousy laptop

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (CWTWj)

10 Nood duties completed...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (U+vfz)

11 "If He Goes, They All Go"

I find those terms... acceptable.

GO JOE!

Posted by: JQ at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (njWTi)

12 That's President DOCTOR Jill *biden!

Say it, peons.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (Q4IgG)

13 Here's hoping!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian- Channeling Yogi at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (N1DT3)

14 FJB is boxed in!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (wdUvO)

15 Here's another thought: Amber Rose won't be the person who is sleaziest, least intelligent, or most familiar with dicks at the GOP convention.

If she wants to speak at the convention, and she has something reasonably coherent and at least center-right to say, then what's the downside? She's probably more reliably conservative than half the people there.

She's also certainly more recognizable to younger voters than the ancient relics that will trundle up to speak.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

16 6 We’ve got inverted box color…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM (9mfKN)


That's what Suzanne Malveaux says every night . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (x0n13)

17 Did those heels in Joe, don't let them push you aside

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (fwDg9)

18 Again, I think the Dems have it in the bag, they're just trying to figure out how to make it plausible or if they need to make it plausible.

But the palace intrigue is interesting. Biden (Jill) knows things the the rest of the Dems don't want to get out, but there are other egos that want to replace Joe (Jill). So who is going to come to power?!!

Posted by: InZona at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (FhOTg)

19 "Kevin McCarthy decided to be useful -- years too late."

---

In other words, not useful at all. Maybe he should be prosecuted, if he disclosed info to someone without the proper security clearance.

What he says to Frank Luntz while they're in bed though is probably much worse than what he says to the Widow Biden.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (dGCAG)

20 Ah, seems I need to let Mr. Bera rest now.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (N1DT3)

21 HAHAHAHA.

Posted by: The Turtle at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (wGerL)

22 Are you not entertained?

Posted by: That guy who says "Are you not entertained?" at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (OiAR7)

23
Wacky prediction:

65% probability it will be a jill biden/camelface ticket.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (v8sdr)

24 Kate Hyde @KateHydeNY Jul 8
Diane Feinstein was declining for years. She was absent from the job for months. Towards the end, she would be wheeled into the Senate confused asking “where am I going?”. One day she cast a vote and a few hours later she died.

No way Joe Biden is voluntarily leaving office.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (Jh5b+)

25 And they have reason to believe that. Democrats leaked their own internal polling to show how badly Biden is doing. In the leaked poll, Biden is losing every single swing state and some non-swing states, too.

=======

This was done right after the debate. It seemed like a panic move when the possibility of replacing Joe still felt real to some people, especially within the party.

I think they're going to regret releasing it in the end.

Who's going to donate to the NC gubernatorial governor if Joe is losing NC by 11?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

26 candidate...whatever

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

27 Fifty years of scumbaggery means he has the laptop of all laptops on the "elites".

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (hnMW+)

28 ha ha Crankity Old Douchebag Joe Biteme Gonna 'Spill Da Beans' Pushed up Orville Redenbacher stock 100 points!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (o3Uyl)

29 Again, thank you Ace!
I don't know if he'll be running; but, these number just make my heart sing!
(don't worry, it is a dirge for the dems.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (vkBMg)

30
I call her "reverend dr jill biden, esquire."

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (v8sdr)

31 Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins 19h
Sen. Mark Warner issues a new statement, saying in part, “With so much at stake in the upcoming election, now is the time for conversations about the strongest path forward...I believe it is incumbent upon the President to more aggressively make his case to the American people."

Jason Willick @jawillick 19h
This is apparently the outer boundary anti-Biden position publicly articulable for senators. The coup is off.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:46 PM (Jh5b+)

32 You have to remember.

Joe thinks he's earned this.

His whole career in Washington he's been mocked as a low-IQ doofus by all the "smart people" (like Obama), and he ran for President several times unsuccessfully before he finally got the brass ring.

And now he's supposed to drop out in disgrace?

DOCTOR Jill certainly won't go for it, and Joe is legitimately worried that Hunter will relapse again if Joe is forced out.

He's not going anywhere.

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (uxCna)

33 Gen X is Best Gen

Fist Bump.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (8mC+I)

34 15 Here's another thought: Amber Rose won't be the person who is sleaziest, least intelligent, or most familiar with dicks at the GOP convention.

If she wants to speak at the convention, and she has something reasonably coherent and at least center-right to say, then what's the downside? She's probably more reliably conservative than half the people there.

She's also certainly more recognizable to younger voters than the ancient relics that will trundle up to speak.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

“This is about me, isn’t it?”

~ SC Senator Lindsey Graham

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (9mfKN)

35 31 Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins 19h
Sen. Mark Warner issues a new statement, saying in part, “With so much at stake in the upcoming election, now is the time for conversations about the strongest path forward...I believe it is incumbent upon the President to more aggressively make his case to the American people."

Jason Willick @jawillick 19h
This is apparently the outer boundary anti-Biden position publicly articulable for senators. The coup is off.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:46 PM (Jh5b+)

=======

"Do more public appearances," is an interesting take for someone supporting Joe Biden at this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

36 Here's another thought: Amber Rose won't be the person who is sleaziest, least intelligent, or most familiar with dicks at the GOP convention.

If she wants to speak at the convention, and she has something reasonably coherent and at least center-right to say, then what's the downside? She's probably more reliably conservative than half the people there.

She's also certainly more recognizable to younger voters than the ancient relics that will trundle up to speak.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

No doubt she's sucked fewer dicks than Lindsay Graham, as well as the aforementioned Kevin McCarthy, and no one's questioning their right to be there.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (dGCAG)

37 I am reminded of the joke about grandpa dying peacefully in his sleep, while his passengers died screaming.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)

38 Having Eclipsed Jimmy Carter...Biden sets his sights on Walter Mondale's Record Setting Election.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (DQcg+)

39 Biden Seemingly Threatens Democrats That If He Goes, They All Go

Your terms are acceptable!

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (14URa)

40 "Why are you screaming at me? Just let me talk."

Narrator: she wasn't actually talking

Posted by: Just Lily at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (RLLZj)

41 Project 2025 will ban birth control and send gays off to an island somewhere. You must save democracy and vote for Joe!!!
— next 4 months of Dem ads

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (wCYy7)

42 OMG. They're all aflutter about the ol' virago snapping at them?

Ooooooh, soooo scaaaaary.

If I were a DC politician and one of these media subhumans asked me what time it was, I'd bite out a piece of his cheek.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (0FoWg)

43 So are those all "red" states now?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (RIvkX)

44 So Biden needs his mommywife nurse with him during meetings.

SOMEBODY has to change the diapers and empty the drool cup.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM (pohLc)

45 Joe wanted to be FDR 2.0.

I'm waiting.

Posted by: Wheelchair at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (DQcg+)

46 30
I call her "reverend dr jill biden, esquire."
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (v8sdr)

I heard that in Rush Limbaugh's voice.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (8mC+I)

47 Well, this certainly explains ...

Chuck Schumer Announces Scheme to Strip President Trump of Court-Granted Immunity and Send Him to Jail

.. at least two Constitutional issues (Article 1, Section 9):
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RHGPo)

48 Oh fuck yeah.

Posted by: Colorado at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (gKWVE)

49 "If any of these guys think I shouldn't run, run against me -- go ahead, announce for president," he said. "Challenge me at the convention."
===

Shorter Biden: I'm a smug, self-satisfied prick.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RIvkX)

50 I imagine *biden's family knows there could be a significant downside to the demented husk being tossed out of the White House. There's likely a bunch of people who've been conned, ripped off or otherwise cheated by that family for years.

Payback's a bitch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (Q4IgG)

51 I'm the man in the box
Buried in my shit
Won't you come and save me?
Save me

Posted by: d-straights at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (og5mY)

52 Well on Thursday Joe is supposedly giving a "Big boy" press conference.. There words not mine

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (IyPmt)

53 Breaking . This just in:
Joe Biteme has a 'Come to Jesus Moment' Spills da beans and they ain't Boston Baked!

Dogs and Cats living together. Biblical proportions

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (o3Uyl)

54 45 Joe wanted to be FDR 2.0.

I'm waiting.
Posted by: Wheelchair at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (DQcg+)


Tommy Udo, or WOMAN OF STRAW

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (x0n13)

55 47 Well, this certainly explains ...

Chuck Schumer Announces Scheme to Strip President Trump of Court-Granted Immunity and Send Him to Jail

.. at least two Constitutional issues (Article 1, Section 9):
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RHGPo)

========

I'm down on the GOP and all, but it's hard to imagine this passing the House, or even getting to a committee hearing.

Failure theater for the Democrat rubes. Donate today. 5x match!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

56 On a completely separate note, has ANYONE had a 'Bodyman' since Obama and Reggie Love broke up?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (DQcg+)

57 Gen X is Best Gen

Fist Bump.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (8mC+I)

Preach!!

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (wCYy7)

58 Bronny > Hunter

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 09, 2024 03:50 PM (W9ZQN)

59 49 "If any of these guys think I shouldn't run, run against me -- go ahead, announce for president," he said. "Challenge me at the convention."
===

Shorter Biden: I'm a smug, self-satisfied prick.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RIvkX)

========

Or, perhaps: "You pussies refused to fight me in the primary. Eat my shit."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

60 Looking at that map, we could solve the issues really fast.

Give the looters the NE (including the 2 red states there) and the eastern half of Maryland + Philly. Give them them West Coast. (Arguments could be made for only the western portions of those states.)

The rest of the country gets to remain American. Chicago needs to be cleared, but the rest of IL is actually deep red.

Allow some sorting to happen, but everyone would be a lot happier.

Of course, that's not going to happen. Instead, we'll just keep going as we are now until the cold civil war turns hot and we get a lot of blood... and STILL might end up with the above solution.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (N1DT3)

61 So Joe had a bad debate.

The Democrats had two choices:

One was to circle the wagons, say everybody has a bad night occasionally, and wait for time to erase the knowledge of the debate in the minds of most voters.

Two was to have half the Democratic Party and lackey media demand that Biden quit, without any clear plan on how they would make Biden withdraw.

Guess which route they chose.

Tee, hee!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (uxCna)

62 "Jill snaps at a reporter"? That wasn't much of a snap. More the kind of reply that is accompanied by an exasperated sigh.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (J2vNu)

63 Kevin McCarthy decided to be useful -- years too late.

But, but we shouldn't have upset the apple cart, guys~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (IG4Id)

64 The convention should be fun.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (qZEuM)

65 "Ridin with Biden"

I'll take my chances with Toonces

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (5hy2B)

66 Thank you Kevin McCarthy for telling the world that Jill sits in on meetings with The Vegetable. If you had said it at the time you might have been a hero and kept your job. Now you're just a pathetic hasbeen tossed aside by the uniparty. Timing is everything Kevy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (oSruC)

67 This box is greyer than an Indigo Girls concert.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (ewjUl)

68 Is it a promise Joe will take the rest with him?

Posted by: Piper at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (p4NUW)

69 I really don't get the big freak-out over the polls. Yes, they suck for Joey Retard and the Dems. But it's July 9. Nobody is paying any attention to politics, other than political junkies and paid hacks.

You can wipe your ass with polls for the entire summer. Maybe starting in mid-September they might mean something, and even then I'm not sure.

And what do Democraps care about voter preferences anyway? They always intended to steal the election. They did in 2020 and 2022. It didn't matter then how voters actually voted. It won't matter in November.

I continue to see this Democrap shit-throwing tantrum over Biden's shit poll numbers as not a good-faith concern about the prospects of beating Trump. I see it as a way for various pro- and anti-Biden factions to stab each other in the back and jockey for position.

The election either will be stolen for the Democraps, in which case it doesn't matter who is on the Dem ticket, or it won't be, in which case . . . it doesn't matter who is on the Dem ticket.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

70 "Gen X is Best Gen."
----

Got that right, Boss!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Port Swiller at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (T+Iwg)

71 63 Kevin McCarthy decided to be useful -- years too late.

But, but we shouldn't have upset the apple cart, guys~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (IG4Id)

========

It's how you win elections. You quietly go along with the opposition party in ways that don't freak out suburban wine moms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

72 Amber Rose won't be the person who is sleaziest, least intelligent, or most familiar with dicks at the GOP convention.

Um...

Posted by: Mercedes Carrera and Tila Tequila at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (gKWVE)

73 I think the real presidents, Jill and Hunter are holding out for more goodies for themselves and their kin. They are holding the democrats hostage for more concessions.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (8mC+I)

74 This post makes me smile. Dems freaking out, favorable polls, Jill pissy, press not completely in the bag.

Posted by: scampydog at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (2bFN5)

75 >37 I am reminded of the joke about grandpa dying peacefully in his sleep, while his passengers died screaming.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 09, 2024 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)

That makes for an amusing joke until one realizes all of us are the passengers.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (NgqoH)

76 Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Hot Air you are reminded Ed Morrissey is still a "half step from The Dispatch" Never Trump little bitch.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (zdYK9)

77 We don't see a problem with this blog format.

Posted by: Little Dudes from Zeta Reticuae at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (OUMaO)

78 Wacky prediction:

65% probability it will be a jill biden/camelface ticket.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:45 PM (v8sdr)

Anyone can predict anything, but the only prediction I'm going to make is that somewhere north of 50% of us will be saying, when it's all said and done, that we couldn't have predicted THAT happening.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (dGCAG)

79 What was Kevin doing with Jill behind closed doors?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (5hy2B)

80 he will take the entire party down with him
......

Captain Splatter don't care.
EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF !

Posted by: wth at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

81 i'll have you know that joe biden is the best president we ever had who was named joe biden.

nah, i'm not ever sure that's true

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (CWTWj)

82
But PredictIt has Biden up by 20%!!!!!!

*RIP Intrade*

Posted by: In before the troll at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (y9nCu)

83 58 Bronny > Hunter

The quicker picker upper?

Posted by: d-straights at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (og5mY)

84 Democrats are so accustomed to fawning, protective, promotional "press coverage" that they just absolutely lose it the moment a "journalist" asks them a question they haven't pre-screened and pre-approved.

“When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.”
― Thomas Sowell

Posted by: MrUNIVAC at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (G3pI+)

85 If a younger Dem nominee replaces Biden, the DEM wins in polling. WE WANT JOE

Posted by: jeff at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (8qMs2)

86 Other than Colorado I could see that map happening.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (wCYy7)

87 re 79: definitely not that

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (CWTWj)

88 >>> 8 I’m a fan of just going right ahead and holding the elections anyway. Just to double check.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (Nt9p1)

Nein! Nein! Nein!

*throws things*

*sobs*

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (VavZF)

89 Look on the bright side.
Dr. Jill ordered the Marine Band to compose for her a special fanfare!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 09, 2024 03:53 PM (MeG8a)

90 Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Hot Air you are reminded Ed Morrissey is still a "half step from The Dispatch" Never Trump little bitch.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (zdYK9)

https://youtu.be/vx47jR3gE1w?si=sg_F1p_EY2wDGGAm

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (0FoWg)

91 >>he will take the entire party down with him


Like a True Uniter.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (DQcg+)

92 Ah yes, he's the underdog running against "the elites".

At his next rally they'll be chanting "CNN Sucks!". Of course it will be CNN chanting since they're the only ones at the rally.

Who do these people think they are fooling?

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (fBIbM)

93 Well biden has been in DC for over 50 years, if anyone has the dirt on democrats it's him.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (QNSds)

94 79 What was Kevin doing with Jill behind closed doors?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:52 PM (5hy2B)

Celebrating International Women’s Day Deadpool-style?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (9mfKN)

95 69 I continue to see this Democrap shit-throwing tantrum over Biden's shit poll numbers as not a good-faith concern about the prospects of beating Trump. I see it as a way for various pro- and anti-Biden factions to stab each other in the back and jockey for position.

The election either will be stolen for the Democraps, in which case it doesn't matter who is on the Dem ticket, or it won't be, in which case . . . it doesn't matter who is on the Dem ticket.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (iFTx/)

=========

It can be both.

I believe they want to win genuinely. I believe they know they're hitting the edges of acceptable steal from the American public. I believe they know that they will have to do a LOT of stealing to make it work this time. I also believe that no one likes Joe and are trying to use this opportunity to unseat him and take his place for themselves.

I also believe that the GOP will flail impotently when the steal happens.

Also, the whole, "No Republican has led national polls in 20 years thing," is worthy of note, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

96 63 Kevin McCarthy decided to be useful -- years too late.


I'll wait till I hear from Paul Ryan before deciding.

(Said nobody)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (sAmhv)

97 OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (Jh5b+)

98 This Biden fellow seems to have some issues.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (a1415)

99 Apres moi, le deluge.

Posted by: mrp at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (rj6Yv)

100 97 OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (Jh5b+)

Of those 3 I'll take Vance

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (IyPmt)

101 97 OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (Jh5b+)

========

What was the reporting around Trump's VP pick in 2016?

Was Pence even part of the discussion?

Seriously, I think Peter Thiel has a better shot of any of the three listed, who have been listed for months now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

102 Every mother's day I think about Tommy Udo.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (4V85Q)

103 "Jill snaps at a reporter"? That wasn't much of a snap. More the kind of reply that is accompanied by an exasperated sigh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (J2vNu)

Yeah, that was a clickbait post yesterday. Lots of exclamation points.

She basically said "why are you screaming questions at me, why don't you just talk to me like a reasonable human being."

Personally, I'd have told them all to go F themselves, so I'm not going to question her civility.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (dGCAG)

104 Was it AOC or some other leftist dunce who said the media being tough on Biden is election interference.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (wCYy7)

105
I find it hilarious that some people are going down the secret parkinsons conspiracy hole.

Parkison's is merely a side-effect for biden's real issue: Senility.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (v8sdr)

106 A bleak post-debate WISCONSIN poll for Biden from Impact (D)/Fabrizio (R) by AARP.

Trump 44
Biden 38
Kennedy 9
Stein 3
Oliver 1


Reuters poll had Joe leading in Wisconsin. Bloomberg had Joe catching up in the swing states. Why I've thrown up my hands re polls. Pick a day, get a different poll.

There's a ten-point gap between Biden and Baldwin!
SEN
Baldwin (D) 50
Hovde (R) 45
Which is not a new phenomenon (ie top of ticket polling lower than down-ballot Dems).


There are few paths to a Democtatic victory without Wisconsin. If we lose Wisconsin we have to win states to the right of it to win the Electoral College.

In September 2020, the AARP-commissioned Wisconsin poll found Biden up by 5 pts overall and 4 pts among likely voters 50+. Biden won WI by just 20k votes in 2020.

Now he's down 6 pts overall and 7pts among likely voters 50+.

Grim.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (ycI94)

107 Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (Jh5b+)

If that's the case I don't want any of them. Not that I did anyway.

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (fBIbM)

108 Anyone who thinks CO will break for Trump knows nothing about that state or how its elections work.

This pollster certainly does.

This """"leaked"""" poll is a snow job.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (0FoWg)

109 Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Hot Air you are reminded Ed Morrissey is still a "half step from The Dispatch" Never Trump little bitch.

Yep. Capn' Ed can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (ewjUl)

110 Captain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries! That's - that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with - geometric logic - that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist! And I'd have PRODUCED that key if they hadn't've pulled the Caine out of action! I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers -
[breaks off in horror, becomes hesitant]
Captain Queeg: Umm... naturally, I can only cover these things roughly, from - memory... but if I've left anything out... why, you just ask me - specific questions and I'll be - perfectly happy to answer them... one by one.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (RHGPo)

111 I really want to believe, but they re-instituted ballot drop boxes in Wisconsin and here in AZ, no proof of, we'll, anything is needed to get a federal ballot (just state ballots). I think those two states are lost.

Posted by: InZona at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (FhOTg)

112 Man. That map is bloodier than Jeffry Dahmer's bath tub.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (pohLc)

113 "Gen X is Best Gen."


We're alright. Mostly.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (sAmhv)

114 This Biden tar baby is all theirs. He'd never made any real headway in a Presidential run. The dude could never fool enough voters. Then when it looked like Bernie Sanders might take the party over the lefty cliff and win the 2020 Presidential election, the party elders pulled this guy off the scrap heap. And look how much gratitude he has for that gift. Not much--but then Joe was always a nasty guy.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (cB7nX)

115 >> OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.


Vance is a non-starter. We can't lose Senate Seats.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (DQcg+)

116 "Who do these people think they are fooling?"

Us! Every time!

Posted by: Tina and Jimmy, Rockland, MA at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (qUkBO)

117 Commie pundits posting about how Trump has not commented on the Biden dementia debacle.

Trump: heh heh Let Biden win and we'll have a permanent majority MAGA coalition..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (o3Uyl)

118 ... talk about a blow job going bad ...

Bangalore man dies after 'friend' inserts a hair dryer in their rectum and turns it on.

The stupidity is spreading across the world.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (5hy2B)

119 Seriously, I think Peter Thiel has a better shot of any of the three listed, who have been listed for months now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

Shoot, may as well add Musk to the list at this point.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (9mfKN)

120 It can't be Jill on the ticket, even if she's been the defacto president since 2020. She's still not Joe Biden, so she's parted from the money as much as the rest.

The only way it's Jill is if that's the convention deal...and I gotta think there are some Dem delegate factions who would never say yes to that (b/c it still has a white lady jump a black lady for the spot)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (exHjb)

121 Just got a text message inviting me to a Dave Chappelle act in Detroit on the 11th. "Join me..." from someone named Hill Harper. Thought nothing of it until I looked at the web link provided with "Act Blue" in the web address. I thought "isn't that a Democrat fundraising organization? Is Dave Chappelle fundraising for Democrats?"

Sure enough...

Dave Chappelle headlining fundraiser for Senate hopeful Hill Harper in Detroit

https://bit.ly/4cTaf1R

Comedian Dave Chappelle will perform at a July 11 fundraiser for U.S. Senate candidate Hill Harper, an actor seeking the Democratic nomination for Michigan's U.S. Senate seat.

The comedian Dave Chappelle is headlining a show to benefit the campaign of U.S. Senate candidate Hill Harper in Detroit next week, according to an event listing selling tickets online.

Harper, an actor and author, is seeking the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate, facing three-term U.S. Rep. Elissa Slotkin of Holly in the Aug. 6 primary election. He's struggled in fundraising compared to Slotkin, who had over $8.6 million in cash reserves as of March 31.


Elissa Slotkin is an AWFL. Hill is black. Should be an interesting primary.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (P5BPp)

122 106 In September 2020, the AARP-commissioned Wisconsin poll found Biden up by 5 pts overall and 4 pts among likely voters 50+. Biden won WI by just 20k votes in 2020.

Now he's down 6 pts overall and 7pts among likely voters 50+.

Grim.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (ycI94)

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They're at the "polls we like are real and polls we don't like are fake" stage.

I can't wait until they move beyond it to start questioning more about the information they receive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

123 The Dems are actually doing better than I thought.

And that's hilarious that the Dems are upset now that the media hummers involve actual teeth.

Colbert yesterday roasted Biden and asked him to step down. That won't happen. The money train would stop.

Posted by: Stateless at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (jvJvP)

124
All that L-Dopa they've been loading up biden with probably did give him Parkisons.

They knew that would happen, and they didn't care. They needed biden as cogent as possible, in the short term

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (v8sdr)

125 The Marine Corps band could have skipped a writing a new song for Jill and just played the Benny Hill show theme

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (oSruC)

126 Vance is a non-starter. We can't lose Senate Seats.
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (DQcg+)

I really like him but you're probably right

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (IyPmt)

127 Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM (Jh5b+)

========

What was the reporting around Trump's VP pick in 2016?

Was Pence even part of the discussion?

Seriously, I think Peter Thiel has a better shot of any of the three listed, who have been listed for months now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
________

Peter Pumpkin Eater probably has a better chance than those 3

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

128 Joe Biden is starting to grow on me. He may be an asshole, but he's their asshole.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (xwDQi)

129 60 Looking at that map, we could solve the issues really fast.

Give the looters the NE (including the 2 red states there) and the eastern half of Maryland + Philly. Give them them West Coast. (Arguments could be made for only the western portions of those states.)

The rest of the country gets to remain American. Chicago needs to be cleared, but the rest of IL is actually deep red.

Allow some sorting to happen, but everyone would be a lot happier.

Of course, that's not going to happen. Instead, we'll just keep going as we are now until the cold civil war turns hot and we get a lot of blood... and STILL might end up with the above solution.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (N1DT3)

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The NE can have DC too. I'm sure they will be happy sending it trillions of dollars a year just to keep the bureaucrat leeches happy.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (XeNBO)

130 The debate only moved public opinion by +1% Trump -1% Biden.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (wGerL)

131 >>Vance is a non-starter. We can't lose Senate Seats.

I agree. That would also take down Rubio.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (LkLld)

132 Grim.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (ycI94)


*smacks lips* Earthy, with just a leetle hint du desperation.

Posted by: sommelier de DU tears at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (gKWVE)

133 If that electoral map is accurate, it's going to be a bloodbath for Dems in November...

Fingers crossed!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (7fElN)

134
Oh, oh, oh!!!!!!

Don't toss that Dim Party into that briar patch, Joe!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (eOD1V)

135 Biden won WI by just 20k votes in 2020.



“Won”

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (wCYy7)

136 "You'll take a chance with Vance"?

Is this a dating game?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (5hy2B)

137 Will be interesting to see if there are any surprise indictments/investigations against team blue in the next few weeks that get leaked. Not shocked if an example gets made in the near future.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (bqDim)

138 It's comical to me that Trump in the previous two elections was down more than Biden is today, but there was no serious talk he was going to be swapped out after the primary was over. But apparently as soon as Dems get behind a few points, the media is allowed to have a "do over" up until Election Day.

I tend to think if Biden can hang on for another week, they're stuck with him. And then the media will pretend they weren't actively making the case he's mentally unfit to be President.

The gaslighting will never stop.


Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (wMRY8)

139 115 >> OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.


Vance is a non-starter. We can't lose Senate Seats.
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (DQcg+)

All three were bigly anti Trump at one point. Fug Em

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (o3Uyl)

140 Comedian Dave Chappelle will perform at a July 11 fundraiser for U.S. Senate candidate Hill Harper, an actor seeking the Democratic nomination for Michigan's U.S. Senate seat.

.. Hill Harper was the roommate of Barack Obama at Harvard Law

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (RHGPo)

141 119 Shoot, may as well add Musk to the list at this point.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (9mfKN)

=======

You know, I kept assuming that Thiel was American born, but I looked it up. He's not. Born in Germany to German parents.

Silly me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

142 IF Biden survives it will be bad... if he doesn't it will be worse.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (1FWWQ)

143 >>> 108 Anyone who thinks CO will break for Trump knows nothing about that state or how its elections work.

This pollster certainly does.

This """"leaked"""" poll is a snow job.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 03:56 PM (0FoWg)

*tee hee*

Posted by: mail-in ballots at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (VavZF)

144 The Marine Corps band could have skipped a writing a new song for Jill and just played the Benny Hill show theme
Posted by: Smell the Glove


I DO NOT want to see Jill running around in her underwear.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (v6JzV)

145 But the cheat is too big.

Posted by: Cynical Asshole with No Life at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (vyHh1)

146 135 Biden won WI by just 20k votes in 2020.



“Won”
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (wCYy7)

========

The Madison election official reportedly was responsible for 60,000 votes with no provenance all by herself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

147 49 "Shorter Biden: I'm a smug, self-satisfied prick.

Just like he always has been. The Dems so richly deserve the lingering taste of his ass - a marriage made in heaven that hopefully will be consummated in Hell!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (fvaUq)

148 What was Kevin doing with Jill behind closed doors?
Posted by: Anna Puma

THATS WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, KEVIN !

Posted by: Frank Luntz at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

149 Just imagine if we had a quality candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

150 >>That would also take down Rubio.


I think we can count on Desantis to replace Rubio with a better option...assuming FL Law allows.

I would not want the OH Gov replacing Vance.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:01 PM (DQcg+)

151 Bangalore man dies after 'friend' inserts a hair dryer in their rectum and turns it on.

The stupidity is spreading across the world.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (5hy2B)

That just a bunch of hot air.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 09, 2024 04:01 PM (qZEuM)

152 Parkinson's is merely a side-effect for Biden's real issue: He's an asshole.

Posted by: Supercargo at July 09, 2024 04:01 PM (qUkBO)

153 I wish I could get excited over these polls but I'm meh. That's what happens when the electoral process is good and fxxx'd.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 09, 2024 04:01 PM (sAmhv)

154 I DO NOT want to see Jill running around in her underwear.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (v6JzV)

That would be great, provided it was under an overpass in a homeless encampment.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:01 PM (pohLc)

155 This is not to mention, they can still send Trump to jail. And then of course, the cameras will fail at just the right moment. That's how I see it going down.

Posted by: InZona at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (FhOTg)

156 The debate only moved public opinion by +1% Trump -1% Biden.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM (wGerL)

A 2% swing nationally is a lot. Biden “won” WI,
GA, PA and AZ by less than that in 2020.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (wCYy7)

157 No wonder she is determined that Biden remain in office -- she's the illegal acting president. Soothsayer speculated that Jill Biden might be angling to replace Biden on the ticket. With herself. - Ace

Never underestimate Jiggly Jill's lust and envy of the two term Obamas. She simply has to be moving on up so to speak.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (RUmyk)

158 You know, I kept assuming that Thiel was American born, but I looked it up. He's not. Born in Germany to German parents.

Silly me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

That pesky constitution!

Whelp..

VP List:
Thiel
Musk

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (9mfKN)

159 >>I think we can count on Desantis to replace Rubio with a better option...assuming FL Law allows.

>>I would not want the OH Gov replacing Vance.

Probably. But I'm not a big Rubio fan either. Wouldn't surprise me for Trump to surprise me and it was none of these guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (LkLld)

160
Allow some sorting to happen, but everyone would be a lot happier.

Of course, that's not going to happen. Instead, we'll just keep going as we are now until the cold civil war turns hot and we get a lot of blood... and STILL might end up with the above solution.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 09, 2024 03:51 PM (N1DT3)


The Donk commie cocksuckers get off on exercising power against us normals. They don't care about building a lefty socialist paradise.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (y9nCu)

161 11 "If He Goes, They All Go"

I find those terms... acceptable.

GO JOE!

Posted by: JQ at July 09, 2024 03:43 PM (njWTi)

It's like a Barrel of Monkeys, and all the Democrats are hanging onto Joe...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (wtvvX)

162 But the "polls" say Michelle beats Trump bigly !!!

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (IyPmt)

163 All three were bigly anti Trump at one point. Fug Em
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!


Vance was anti-Trump. That's disappointing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (v6JzV)

164 139 115 >> OT: Fux News pushing JD Vance, Rubio, and Burgum as PDT's VP choices.


Vance is a non-starter. We can't lose Senate Seats.
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 03:57 PM (DQcg+)

All three were bigly anti Trump at one point. Fug Em
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 03:59 PM (o3Uyl)

----------------------

Not sure why Greg Abbot is never talked about for VP, I assume he has made it clear he will not accept the position.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (XeNBO)

165 LOLOL!

pleasepleaseplease?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (MKEsG)

166 Sad story.

Got a smoke?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:42 PM

The President doesn't stand up as well as he used to.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (BbSDq)

167 >>> 155 This is not to mention, they can still send Trump to jail. And then of course, the cameras will fail at just the right moment. That's how I see it going down.
Posted by: InZona at July 09, 2024 04:02 PM (FhOTg)

*cackles*

Posted by: Hillary! at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (VavZF)

168 Joe didn't write the letter. The call is from inside the house.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (VuZH8)

169 >>This is not to mention, they can still send Trump to jail.


Where?

The recent SC Decision re. Immunity would make that all but impossible to achieve prior to January 25.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (DQcg+)

170 Biden's narcissism is doing something productive for the first time in his life: It is helping Trump.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (BhkgG)

171 ha ha all the former Nerd Elites of the Dem party are trying to out-Trump Trump now with the cool factor. These gooy assholes were always going to be social rejects in real life. Fucktard asswipes goofy bastids!! ha ha ha .

- Jerry Nadler's Belt

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (o3Uyl)

172 That map looks about right...but New Jersey is likely in play as well.

Posted by: El Mariachi, Attorney at Law! at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (nLFEI)

173 One of the other hilarious things about this is there actually is enough video of Biden creeping on young girls, Hunter laptops, hidden payments, showers with his daughter....tons of stuff.

The media and the Dems could drag all this out and destroy Biden.

But they're not because the desicated corpse may actually be their actual candidate and they have to keep him electable.

Hilarious.

Posted by: Stateless at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (jvJvP)

174 THATS WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, KEVIN !

Posted by: Frank Luntz at July 09, 2024 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

So, what you're saying is, we need to talk about Kevin?

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (14URa)

175 "Hill Harper was the roommate of Barack Obama at Harvard Law"

Sounds composite-ish.

Posted by: Supercargo at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (qUkBO)

176 >>Probably. But I'm not a big Rubio fan either. Wouldn't surprise me for Trump to surprise me and it was none of these guy.


Trump hasn't ruled out Ace, yet.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (DQcg+)

177
Trump should pick Karen Pence.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (v8sdr)

178 Wonder how many tranquilizers and mood elevators she pops every day?

I’m pretty well persuaded a huge problem in this country are all the prescription “medicine” that both youth and especially females are taking. They are often already behind the eight-ball in a lot of ways, and the drugs just smooth everything out.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (UTD5a)

179 The first (and only) time I became aware of Amber Rose was when she competed on America's Next Top Model.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (JCLJi)

180 Dr. Jill ordered the Marine Band to compose for her a special fanfare!
-----
Fanfare For The Common Ho
duh-duh-duuuh

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (Jh5b+)

181
Vance was anti-Trump. That's disappointing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (v6JzV)

Yes in his book he said he did not vote for Trump in 2016.. I have to admit I was no fan of Trump myself in 2016

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (IyPmt)

182 Trump hasn't ruled out Ace, yet.
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:04 PM (DQcg+)

VP List
Thiel
Musk
Ace

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (9mfKN)

183 If there is ever any permutation of a National Divorce, the blue countries will invade us shortly afterward. But that is much more manageable than our current tyranny, and if we defeat them in combat, then we can dispense with them harshly as a vanquished foe.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (0FoWg)

184 I like JD Vance a lot, I bet he's our nominee at some point in the future, but the two overlap the same voters.

OH is not in play, and I still think Vance is a bit green. I'd like a VP that was more experienced.

I actually Rubio would be a solid pick (even though I have my differences with his) but I think if Trump has to "move" his residence again, that starts to look a little shady.

Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (wMRY8)

185 That pesky constitution!

Whelp..

VP List:
Thiel
Musk


I will continue to fail to understand why everyone wants all the useful people concentrated where they can't be useful attacking problems from only one angle, instead of spread out and attacking different problems from multiple angles.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (hB7mE)

186 Look on the bright side.
Dr. Jill ordered the Marine Band to compose for her a special fanfare!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 09, 2024


***
"Voulez-Vous Couchez Avec Moi Ce Soir"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (J2vNu)

187 I am getting sweaty at the idea of New Mexico going for Trump. The odds of the Santa Fe communists letting this happen are slight; the SFC are known to have a stunning, come from behind victory a week or two after election day on occasion.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (RUmyk)

188 Dominion!

Posted by: moviegique at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (asXVI)

189 Joe is one fall away from a broken hip. Joe start looking for banana peels on the floor in the WH.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (XeNBO)

190 >>Trump hasn't ruled out Ace, yet.

Devin Nunes has been working for Trump running his media company for a couple years. I'm surprised he never gets any coverage.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (LkLld)

191 Vance was anti-Trump. That's disappointing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (v6JzV)

Yes in his book he said he did not vote for Trump in 2016.. I have to admit I was no fan of Trump myself in 2016
Posted by: It's me donna
___

He literally called Trump Hitler.

Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (wMRY8)

192 49 "If any of these guys think I shouldn't run, run against me -- go ahead, announce for president," he said. "Challenge me at the convention."
===

Shorter Biden: I'm a smug, self-satisfied prick.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RIvkX)

A fringe dude did challenge him and he did all that he could to ensure fringe dude never got a fair shot.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (LDevB)

193 Not sure why Greg Abbot is never talked about for VP, I assume he has made it clear he will not accept the position.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (XeNBO)

I believe his exact words were: "I won't stand for it!"

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (dGCAG)

194 Related:

Mike McCormick, a former White House stenographer who worked with Joe Biden, alleges that Biden threatened to expose Obama’s supposed homosexual affairs unless certain conditions were met, wielding this information as a tool for political leverage.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (RHGPo)

195 Trump hasn't ruled out Ace, yet.
Posted by: garrett

We need Ace here. Trump can have Lamont the Big Dummy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (v6JzV)

196 >>Devin Nunes has been working for Trump running his media company for a couple years. I'm surprised he never gets any coverage.


He's one of those White Hispanics.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (DQcg+)

197 The President doesn't stand up as well as he used to.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 09, 2024 04:03 PM (BbSDq)

Next debate, since the questions will be known to the Dems in advance, they could replace Biden with a pasteboard cutout with a pull string for Dr. Jill to yank every time Biden is asked a question. Like a pull string doll.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (pohLc)

198 I will continue to fail to understand why everyone wants all the useful people concentrated where they can't be useful attacking problems from only one angle, instead of spread out and attacking different problems from multiple angles.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 09, 2024 04:05 PM (hB7mE)

After Pence led the committee that let Fauci and Birx become de facto rulers, I’d prefer some competence in the office.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (9mfKN)

199 Invade?

LOL. We are well armed.


What did Yamamoto say? "Behind every blade of grass...

Posted by: No one of any consequence at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (VuZH8)

200 183 If there is ever any permutation of a National Divorce, the blue countries will invade us shortly afterward. But that is much more manageable than our current tyranny, and if we defeat them in combat, then we can dispense with them harshly as a vanquished foe.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July

Invade as in for real or invade as in sneak across our borders and be illegal? Either way sounds like a poor ending for them.

Posted by: Piper at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (p4NUW)

201 194 Related:

Mike McCormick, a former White House stenographer who worked with Joe Biden, alleges that Biden threatened to expose Obama’s supposed homosexual affairs unless certain conditions were met, wielding this information as a tool for political leverage.
Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (RHGPo)

========

I've been hearing promises of dead man switches on this sort of crap for so long, and nothing ever comes out.

Hell, Epstein got murdered in prison, and nothing came out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

202 Trump should pick Elise Stefanik because...

Posted by: guy who always yells: "Show us yer tits!" at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

203 >> Obama’s supposed homosexual affairs


Supposed.

Really. You are gonna go with 'supposed'?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (DQcg+)

204 i still think a lot of dems would rather see trump and repubs in charge when the country starts to collapse. trump winning in nov in and of itself with lead to lots of major rioting and the dems will just sit back and enjoy.

also, keith olbermann is a twat

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (CWTWj)

205 I just heard Biden described as "fecal-minded." Almost gave me a Coors Light nasal lavage.

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (14URa)

206 The D's Oh Shit Day is one FJB blowup away

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (RUmyk)

207 I really, really want to believe those polls. What I'm curious about is what they would be if Dementia Joe wasn't so mentally defective. IOW, considering his economy the last 4 years, sky high inflation, and coupled with the dissolution of our southern border complete with the influx of 10 million illegal aliens, if Joe's brain were functioning...would the polls be different? I guess I'll never know.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (mupln)

208 Invade as in for real or invade as in sneak across our borders and be illegal? Either way sounds like a poor ending for them.
Posted by: Piper at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM

Invade for real.

1.) they hate us ferociously

2.) every Communist country attacks its neighbors. They have to.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (0FoWg)

209 re 203: a guy marrying someone like moochelle already makes him suspect

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (CWTWj)

210 Gannett’s flagship newspaper USA TODAY claims in a recent story that if a Delaware gun shop had “done its job” in 2018, Hunter Biden would never have been able to illegally purchase the .38 Special Colt Cobra revolver, which led to his three felony convictions.

“By law, handguns can be sold by shops only to state residents, who must provide a government-issued proof of residency, and Biden was not a legal resident of Delaware in 2018. Instead, he offered only a passport, with his name and birthdate,” USA TODAY reporter Nick Penzenstadler wrote.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (RHGPo)

211 202 Trump should pick Elise Stefanik because...
Posted by: guy who always yells: "Show us yer tits!" at July 09, 2024 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

If he’s considering Stefanik, then he should go straight to Nancy Mace. Both parrot MAGA talking points, vote as squishy as Kevin McCarthy, but Mace is better looking.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (9mfKN)

212 192 49 "If any of these guys think I shouldn't run, run against me -- go ahead, announce for president," he said. "Challenge me at the convention."
===

Shorter Biden: I'm a smug, self-satisfied prick.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 09, 2024 03:49 PM (RIvkX)

A fringe dude did challenge him and he did all that he could to ensure fringe dude never got a fair shot.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (LDevB)

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RFK jr should take him up on the offer.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (XeNBO)

213 The cheating by the democrats is going to be jaw dropping.

I’m talking the Jeb wins everything meme level.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 09, 2024 04:10 PM (lUhzf)

214 From Teen babysitter banging Senator Dad, to the most Powerful Woman in the World! Suck it Hillary

- "Dr" Jill

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 09, 2024 04:10 PM (aTE0p)

215 Hmm sooo it seems Jow Biteme has perfected the intimidation of the cracker factor like Maxine Waters and muscle thug Rep. Gregory Meeks. This whole dilema pissed me off like the forced bussing of the 60's. Meeks dodged...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (o3Uyl)

216 The cheating by the democrats is going to be jaw dropping.

I’m talking the Jeb wins everything meme level.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 09, 2024 04:10 PM (lUhzf)

Absolutely correct. And they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (14URa)

217 A fringe dude did challenge him and he did all that he could to ensure fringe dude never got a fair shot.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2024 04:06 PM (LDevB)

-------------

RFK jr should take him up on the offer.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:09 PM (XeNBO)

He tried once and the dems told him to pound sand.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (LDevB)

218 I will never forget that panicked Dem Congress critter sobbing and screaming "stop saying socialism!" on their big conference call the last time they got blown out. Get ready, it's going to be a lot worse this time.

Cry harder, Dems.

Posted by: PJU at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (G1dq6)

219 It was awfully Nice ofMcCarthy to share that nugget of information... months late

Posted by: LASue at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (vlq8m)

220 REPORT: Biden says he's going to "drain the swamp".

Posted by: ... at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (fBIbM)

221 After Pence led the committee that let Fauci and Birx become de facto rulers, I’d prefer some competence in the office.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:07 PM (9mfKN)


Competence would be fantastic, but why does anyone think that those particular people would be competent in the necessary ways in the nice dead-end position they were put in?

My understanding has always been that VP is the office where political ambitions go to die, unless you're LBJ or Ford.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 09, 2024 04:12 PM (hB7mE)

222 220 REPORT: Biden says he's going to "drain the swamp".
Posted by: ... at July 09, 2024 04:11 PM (fBIbM)

Glad he’s going to change his Depends.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:12 PM (9mfKN)

223 ...alleges that Biden threatened to expose Obama’s supposed homosexual affairs unless...

and, in unison, the country says, "oh, honey, everybody already knew..."

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2024 04:12 PM (A1ulB)

224 I really, really want to believe those polls. What I'm curious about is what they would be if Dementia Joe wasn't so mentally defective. IOW, considering his economy the last 4 years, sky high inflation, and coupled with the dissolution of our southern border complete with the influx of 10 million illegal aliens, if Joe's brain were functioning...would the polls be different? I guess I'll never know.
Posted by: Lady in Black

____

The polls are biased towards Democrats, that's at least part of it. I believe at this same point in 2016, Trump was losing to Hillary by around 10 points. So if Trump is winning by a few points today, it tends to project something bigger on Election Day.

But at least some of the reason why this is still closer than it should be is Trump is not everyone's cup of tea either. My guess is at least 47% would still vote Biden no matter what transpires.

Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 04:12 PM (wMRY8)

225 214 From Teen babysitter banging Senator Dad

There's room for one more in this bathtub...

Posted by: Neil "Cuddles" Gaiman at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (gKWVE)

226 I still think Trump's VP pick should be someone with zero political affiliation. Someone willing to take a hatchet to FedGov's embedded ticks and could care less about some future political retribution.

The problem with current politicos is that they're concerned with their "day job" should they get tapped for VP. Consider the treatment most of Trump's loyal appointees and staff have received since he left office.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

227 Also, the whole, "No Republican has led national polls in 20 years thing," is worthy of note, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 03:54 PM


If the polling stays as it is, Trump stands to win the "popular vote", that would be the first time a republican has done that since bush in 2004. I sincerely hope that happens and we can finally put paid to that idiotic NPV State compact garbage because if Trump wins the NPV all of those states that have signed on already will back track on that promise in a New York minute.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (QNSds)

228 That is the SECOND leak of the internal Biden polls. The numbers are getting worse.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (5p7BC)

229 The Swamp is probably his ass Sundowner will be cleaning out

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (fwDg9)

230 that Senator from Oklahoma?

No, not that one, the other one.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (XeNBO)

231 >"The question of how to move forward has been well-aired for over a week now. And it's time for it to end."
---

Translation:

"You think you're better than me? MANDELBAUM! MANDELBAUM!"

Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (/7KEl)

232 > The recent SC Decision re. Immunity would make that all but impossible to achieve prior to January 25.

Why? All they have to do is declare the relevant actions by Trump weren't part of his core duties as POTUS. It doesn't even have to be intellectually consistent. SCOTUS opened a portal to another realm with that decision.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (Odg76)

233 Note that the leak is coming from inside the campaign, not from the media or a Dem office holder.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (5p7BC)

234 The "parkinson's doctor", was his name Herbert West?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (4V85Q)

235 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

I personally *love* Ric Grenell but I can't see it happening. VDH would also be an epic pick but I doubt he's willing to leave the Salinas Valley.

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (14URa)

236 226 I still think Trump's VP pick should be someone with zero political affiliation. Someone willing to take a hatchet to FedGov's embedded ticks and could care less about some future political retribution.

The problem with current politicos is that they're concerned with their "day job" should they get tapped for VP. Consider the treatment most of Trump's loyal appointees and staff have received since he left office.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

I want a pick so far out of left field that it's like they're not even playing the same sport.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LDevB)

237 Really. You are gonna go with 'supposed'?
Posted by: garrett


Well, if one of Barky's teabaggers identified as a woman at the time . . .

Posted by: what is a woman? at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (gKWVE)

238 >>My understanding has always been that VP is the office where political ambitions go to die, unless you're LBJ or Ford.

Or George Bush the elder. Or Biden.

VP isn't a dead end job but it has been historically a very meaningless job. Trump will have a huge amount of things on his plate, foreign and domestic. He's a business guy and he knows how to delegate. I get he gives his VP some meaningful tasks.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LkLld)

239 228 That is the SECOND leak of the internal Biden polls. The numbers are getting worse.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (5p7BC)

========

The date on the week is from 7/2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

240
Got a IM from CenterPoint

"
CenterPoint Energy has completed the impact evaluation step in our restoration process and mobilized nearly 12,000 local and mutual assistance crews. Crews are currently focused on restoring essential facilities critical to health and public safety like hospitals, police and fire facilities. Due to the severity of the storm, please be prepared to be without power for several days. Thank you for your patience and understanding during this challenging time."

The basic message: you little people out in the sticks will be the last ones.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (e+lF5)

241 I know this won't last forever but I have to admit I'm basking in schadenfreude.

Posted by: bluebell at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (aWMPM)

242 A real media would ask if Joe's too bad to run gor reelection, why is he still "in charge" now?

And props to McCarthy being true to his calling oh helping Dems out wherever he can. May the US Torres be lost and forgotten soon and forever.

Posted by: Bete at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LX4y3)

243 238 VP isn't a dead end job but it has been historically a very meaningless job. Trump will have a huge amount of things on his plate, foreign and domestic. He's a business guy and he knows how to delegate. I get he gives his VP some meaningful tasks.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LkLld)

========

"Fix voting, Pence."

"Okay."

-a month later-

"So, did you fix voting?"

"Nah. They said I couldn't, so I gave up."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

244 "IT'S GO TIME, SKIPPY!"

- the Preznit

Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024 04:16 PM (/7KEl)

245 Red Wave 2 ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 09, 2024 04:16 PM (63Dwl)

246 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

Me. No political affiliation. And I would literally take hatchets to people. I would routinely have pressers where I was spattered in grue, and denying any involvement in a recent disappearance.

"I have no idea where Senator Fuckface went. Why don't you ask one of his boyfriends? He's probably at Fire Island or something. I'm just glad I don't have to listen to him flapping that dick shaped mouth of his."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (0FoWg)

247 Biden won WI by just 20k votes in 2020.

“Won”


Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:58 PM

After Trump won Wisconsin by 22,000 votes in 2016. First Republican to win Wisconsin since Reagan in 1984.

2020: D+0.6% (20.6k votes)
2016: R+0.8% (22.7k)
2012: D+6.9% (213k)
2008: D+13.9% (414k)
2004: D+0.4% (11.3k)
2000: D+0.2% (5.7k)
1996: D+10.3% (226k)
1992: D+4.3% (111k)
1988: D+3.6% (80k)

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (P5BPp)

248
Note that the leak is coming from inside the campaign, not from the media or a Dem office holder.

==


!

Posted by: runner at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (V13WU)

249 VP isn't a dead end job but it has been historically a very meaningless job. Trump will have a huge amount of things on his plate, foreign and domestic. He's a business guy and he knows how to delegate. I get he gives his VP some meaningful tasks.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LkLld)

Agreed. VP needs to be Trumps hit man (or woman). Cold, calculating, loyal, and heartless.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (pohLc)

250 Once again I'm begging people to stop believing anything that has Trump winning MN

Posted by: jhawk90 at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (ggOdn)

251 I know this won't last forever but I have to admit I'm basking in schadenfreude.
Posted by: bluebell at July 09, 2024


***
I imagine schadenfreude tastes like Kraft Caramels.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (J2vNu)

252 >Red Wave 2 ?
---

let's not start sorting each other's laundry just yet

Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (/7KEl)

253 @realLizUSA
·
7m
Some good news out of Georgia.

State Election Board votes 3-1 to adopt a rule based on this petition to require ballots be hand counted at the precinct level by 3 poll officers each day of voting to ensure the totals match with the machines.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (LkLld)

254 "Former VP Mike Pence calls Republican 2024 platform a 'profound disappointment' for pro-life cause"

Yes Mike, we know 'profound disappointment' .

Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:18 PM (vFG9F)

255 As said earlier today, all these Leftists on Leftists Propaganda shows and media are questioning Sundowner's run for re-election all of a sudden are seeing his mental situation. Bet most had no clue it was this bad, maybe not even know it was all.

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 04:18 PM (fwDg9)

256 Dems will cheat
Republicans won’t do shit about it

Posted by: weew at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (UDnux)

257 Please stop. I cannot accept the optimism. These fuckers will steal the election, AGAIN. I cannot entertain any optimism.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (VuZH8)

258 Robocop for VP!
Dead or alive, you are coming with me.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (pohLc)

259 We've had objectively the worst 4 years of nominal peacetime in America's history.

In a free and fair election the Democrats should be facing a 1974 type election.

But...it won't be particularly free and it wasn't be at all fair...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (oZhjI)

260 254 "Former VP Mike Pence calls Republican 2024 platform a 'profound disappointment' for pro-life cause"

Yes Mike, we know 'profound disappointment' .
Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:18 PM (vFG9F)

========

How is the pro-life movement supposed to win some kind of national abortion ban when they get curbstomped on ballot initiatives in places like Ohio and Kansas?

Maybe shore up the home front and then work state by state?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

261 David Broder over at the NYTimes came up with this gem about France's Left conspiring to make sure the National Rally party would not end up with the most seats, "This is a truly astounding result. Through a stunning act of collective responsibility, the far right has been stopped."

OK, David, what else do you find to be stunning acts of collective responsibility? Burning down cities, stunning come from behind Democrat election wins, persecuting Trump with BS indictments, out of control inflation, lying about FJB's dementia by omission?

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (RUmyk)

262 41 Project 2025 will ban birth control and send gays off to an island somewhere. You must save democracy and vote for Joe!!!
— next 4 months of Dem ads
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 09, 2024 03:48 PM

---

Well, if 50% plus 1 want to make the Handmaiden's Tale a reality show and send gays off to Snake Island, that's just the way "democracy" rolls, right?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (wzAuc)

263 Craters are some of my favorite things.

Craters.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (guGkK)

264 250 Once again I'm begging people to stop believing anything that has Trump winning MN00....


A girl can dream...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (IyPmt)

265
Cold, calculating, loyal, and heartless.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (pohLc)

________

Vice President Al Neri

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (e+lF5)

266 Me. No political affiliation. And I would literally take hatchets to people. I would routinely have pressers where I was spattered in grue, and denying any involvement in a recent disappearance.

"I have no idea where Senator Fuckface went. Why don't you ask one of his boyfriends? He's probably at Fire Island or something. I'm just glad I don't have to listen to him flapping that dick shaped mouth of his."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


Yes, YD for VP. Absolutely.

But you'd have to give up the throne of Liechtenstein first.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (v6JzV)

267 But at least some of the reason why this is still closer than it should be is Trump is not everyone's cup of tea either. My guess is at least 47% would still vote Biden no matter what transpires.
Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 04:12 PM (wMRY

Since 2016:

Russia Russia Hoax
Ukraine Telephone Call Hoax
Two impeachment trials
34 "felony" counts
Stolen top secret documents bullshit
Alleged ringmaster for the Jan. 6 "insurrection" bullshit
Constant, unrelenting barrage of anti-trump bullshit from the MSM
Bookkeeping confusion bullshit trial
Rape accusation hustle

Did I leave anything out?

And yet ...

Posted by: mrp at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (rj6Yv)

268 My understanding has always been that VP is the office where political ambitions go to die

Don't be the VP candidate on the losing ticket, that's for sure.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (A1ulB)

269 Look on the bright side.
Dr. Jill ordered the Marine Band to compose for her a special fanfare!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 09, 2024


And now I have an ear worm of the Theme of the Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (W/lyH)

270 Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

It's the x factor and current polling, bad as it is, may underestimate how bad it will be for Biden and the Ds. Many Black men, Hispanics and even some wine moms who voted in 2020 will stay home, each in effect a half-vote for Trump.

Cheating can't fix this unless its so big and obvious as to be seen as a kind of insurrection by the Junta.

This will have huge down-ticket implications. The Ds are defending 2/3rds of the 33 Senate seats that are up this year. A rebranded R party can also pick-up 50 House seats and have an effective ruling majority,

Let us pray ....







Posted by: Ignoramus at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (Gse2f)

271 254 "Former VP Mike Pence calls Republican 2024 platform a 'profound disappointment' for pro-life cause"

Pence and Graham can go do the thing that never results in pregnancies, together.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (gKWVE)

272 Once again I'm begging people to stop believing anything that has Trump winning MN
Posted by: jhawk90 at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM

He was close in 2016, it's possible. The dems have lost the Iron Range.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (ewjUl)

273 "Former VP Mike Pence calls Republican 2024 platform a 'profound disappointment' for pro-life cause"


Hey Mike you remember you, personally, could have stopped Biden's installation as president right?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (oZhjI)

274 259 We've had objectively the worst 4 years of nominal peacetime in America's history.

In a free and fair election the Democrats should be facing a 1974 type election.

But...it won't be particularly free and it wasn't be at all fair...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:19 PM (oZhjI)

Best economy ever, Jack!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (9mfKN)

275 Trump has a stable of potential VP candidates to choose from. He's waiting for the Dem ticket to solidify before he makes the call...
Thats the difference between Gold 45 Sneakers and Dr Prescribed black old man cripple shoes.. ha ha

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:20 PM (o3Uyl)

276 Send the gays to Pago Pago. They can run around naked all day.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at July 09, 2024 04:21 PM (VuZH8)

277 "You arrogant ass, you've killed us "

Posted by: Ben Had at July 09, 2024 04:21 PM (5MvGY)

278 Project 2025 will ban birth control and send gays off to an island somewhere. You must save democracy and vote for Joe!!!

Then: MILF Manor

Now: DILF Bathhouse

Posted by: And you thought your elites couldn't go any lower... at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)

279 The basic message: you little people out in the sticks will be the last ones.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:15 PM (e+lF5)
*********
I got lucky my power came on late yesterday afternoon.
Some family members in the Memorial area are still without power and they pay the highest taxes in city... if that makes you feel any better

Posted by: redridinghood at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

280 And now I have an ear worm of the Theme of the Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: Diogenes

Technically, it was Miss Gulch's theme. It was never used for the witch.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (v6JzV)

281 Once again I'm begging people to stop believing anything that has Trump winning MN

--

Yeah, that seems laughable to me.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (mupln)

282 Let’s also not be lulled into a false sense of security by the polls.

We’re going to have to counter a lot of bullshit cheating.

Posted by: Cranky J Anne at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (N71FQ)

283 Technically, it was Miss Gulch's theme. It was never used for the witch.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (v6JzV)


I actually didn't know that.
I stand corrected.
But I still hear it.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM (W/lyH)

284 "Let’s also not be lulled into a false sense of security by the polls.

We’re going to have to counter a lot of bullshit cheating.
Posted by: Cranky J Anne"

I agree. It's far from time to start mowing each others lawns.

Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM (vFG9F)

285 He was close in 2016, it's possible. The dems have lost the Iron Range. Posted by: Minnfidel

That is almost like a snake handling Baptist becoming a Unitarian.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM (RUmyk)

286 Well, if 50% plus 1 want to make the Handmaiden's Tale a reality show and send gays off to Snake Island, that's just the way "democracy" rolls, right?


I would like to see someone make some sort of Handmaid's Tale "reality TV" show.

The AWFLs would be wearing out the batteries in their Kitty Masher 3000s.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM (oZhjI)

287 This leak is purely to pressure Brandon and the doctor. That poll is ludicrous. They probably made it all up this morning.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM (0FoWg)

288 And now I have an ear worm of the Theme of the Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz.

--

That's child's play compared to the one I had the other day, compliments of Yacht Rock...Melissa Manchester's awful abomination of a song called Don't Cry Out Loud. It's still piercing my inner eardrum with its wickedness.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2024 04:24 PM (mupln)

289 Pence going full Dem support huh? Deep state prick.

Posted by: Ribbed at July 09, 2024 04:24 PM (xwDQi)

290 I suspect that the R candidate has gotten more votes from citizens in MN every year since 2012. Not the official totals but the actual votes...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:24 PM (oZhjI)

291 Former VP Mike Pence, famous for conducting his duties with the utmost cowardice and characterlessness, and tossed his dignity into the whorehouse outhouse, says,"I suck dick by choice."

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (pohLc)

292 Agreed. VP needs to be Trumps hit man (or woman). Cold, calculating, loyal, and heartless.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (pohLc)
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I nominate Bender "Bending" Rodriguez.

Oh, wait. He was born (i.e., fabricated) in Tijuana. Not eligible. That's a shame.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (7fElN)

293 YD for VP!!! We're gonna need hats and t-shirts. And bumper stickers and yard signs. Right away, time's a wasting.

Posted by: Peaches at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (14URa)

294 Ben Carson polls higher than others for VP, but imo he is too soft spoken, and would look like a DEI choice. Maybe that doesn't matter, idk.

Burgum was for Trump in 2016, but not sure what he brings to "the table". Rubio seems like a poor GOPe choice for the 2028 run. ...

Posted by: illiniwek at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (Cus5s)

295 What’s so awesome, it took almost two weeks for all these stupid bastards in and out of the media to have a defcon level 1 very public freakout, to figure out what everybody who has been paying attention knew months ago.

They may well have kneecapped Joey permanently


Posted by: Common Tater at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (UTD5a)

296
Some family members in the Memorial area are still without power and they pay the highest taxes in city... if that makes you feel any better
Posted by: redridinghood at July 09, 2024 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

___________

We lost power for nine days when the remnants of Ike came through Ohio in 2008. 99.7% of Duke Energy customers were taken care of before us.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (e+lF5)

297 Discussions today (and earlier) about the absolute stupidity of our political class tells me that a non-politico would be well suited to VP. Especially if that person is given very specific tasks to gut certain bureaus/agencies and/or departments. Or deal with Democrats.

Seriously... someone who just doesn't have a single fuck to give. That person would be feared in the capitol city.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (Q4IgG)

298 Looks like Trump has finally learned the lesson about not interrupting the enemy when they're making mistakes.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (CwhoI)

299 Trump up 7 in Wisconsin? I feel like there's an 8 pt cheat coming.....because. Drop boxes.

Posted by: PI Staker at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (v/9ok)

300 That's child's play compared to the one I had the other day, compliments of Yacht Rock...Melissa Manchester's awful abomination of a song called Don't Cry Out Loud. It's still piercing my inner eardrum with its wickedness.
Posted by: Lady in Black


Oh man, that thing. I have a history with it. Maybe I'll tell that story sometime.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)

301 Has any A list women checked in on Biteme's decline? *crickets* ha ha Hell no the likes of the Supah Stah Bitches can not associate themselves with a fucked up old man that is now the face of the Dem party. That would be suicide amongst her peers which bestow ratings/ranking based on the men you associate with..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (o3Uyl)

302 Well, someone got paid...

@disclosetv
JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (IG4Id)

303 Trump should pick a VP with executive experience so he can put the VP in charge of any departments where the Senate holds up his pick.

Doesn't have to be government executive experience but some large org...

Oh and an iron clad record of fighting for and winning on conservative causes.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (oZhjI)

304 JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (IG4Id)

Lol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (0FoWg)

305 Objection.

To even suggest Dr. Ben Carson “Didn’t Earn It” is fucking crazy.

He ain’t a “diversity hire” which is rather the point.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (UTD5a)

306 297 Discussions today (and earlier) about the absolute stupidity of our political class tells me that a non-politico would be well suited to VP. Especially if that person is given very specific tasks to gut certain bureaus/agencies and/or departments. Or deal with Democrats.

Seriously... someone who just doesn't have a single fuck to give. That person would be feared in the capitol city.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (Q4IgG)

========

That's what cabinet positions are for.

DeSantis for AG. Pull out the rot of the DOJ by the root.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

307 VP sweepstakes? Stefanik - If Trump picks her, I think he wins NY too - ie a landslide of Reagan proportions. Also, she's sharp, ultra conservative, and she beat the press like a drum this last weekend. She's good.

Second choice? Youngkin. He's really a retail politician and the left hasn't homed in on him...but they will if he's picked. I think he's got the demeanor to fight it off. And, he has no fear to point if he needs to help Trump with the Admin state...

Last pick - Vance. Yeah, he's toxic to the press - but he's going to deliver the Midwest and he's common sense - he'll follow thru on any Trump directives that need Senate approval...

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (K+UlC)

308
JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (IG4Id)

_________

So, a bit less than most NFL stadiums.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (e+lF5)

309 Cheating can't fix this unless its so big and obvious as to be seen as a kind of insurrection by the Junta

I think they won’t care how obvious it is. The media and big tech will squelch any voiced objections, and the feds will physically silence any upstarts.

The democrats are relying on the public being too timid to do anything about it.

Yeah I’m being an Eeyore but I won’t put it past the left to go full tyrant

Posted by: weew at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (UDnux)

310 I am known for being very prim and proper, and (but?) I support Mr. Trump, warts and all.

He wears no mask; he is what he is. There is no phoniness. Hyperbole is not deception; it's figurative language, not literal testimony.

I cannot recall a decision of his that was not in the interest for the greatest good of America.

I have confidence in such a man.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (DBrq6)

311 If the polling stays as it is, Trump stands to win the "popular vote", that would be the first time a republican has done that since bush in 2004. I sincerely hope that happens and we can finally put paid to that idiotic NPV State compact garbage because if Trump wins the NPV all of those states that have signed on already will back track on that promise in a New York minute.
Posted by: Mister Scott
____

The only way I see that happening is a 3rd party takes a big chunk out of the Democrat vote.

It's disturbing that even in a potentially good election cycle, we expect to lose the popular vote. Need to figure out a broader coalition because we're on borrowed time if most Americans are voting against us.

Posted by: Blago at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM (wMRY8)

312 > We’re going to have to counter a lot of bullshit cheating.

In 19 US states, anyone who gets a driver's license is AUTOMATICALLY registered to vote if they check a box on the DL application that says, "Yep, I'm a US citizen."

In those same 19 states, illegals are allowed to obtain driver's licenses and it's all legal.

Sure, it's illegal to check that box if you're not a US citizen, but leftist prosecutorial discretion means they won't be charged.

Boom, millions of illegals voting against the guy who said he'd deport illegals on day one.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 09, 2024 04:28 PM (Odg76)

313 303 Trump should pick a VP with executive experience so he can put the VP in charge of any departments where the Senate holds up his pick.

Doesn't have to be government executive experience but some large org...

Oh and an iron clad record of fighting for and winning on conservative causes.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (oZhjI)

========

I think the VP should be old and bland. I also think the VP should show up to preside over the Senate every day and be a stickler for the rules.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

314 JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM


Hate is not a strong enough word for these cunts.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 04:28 PM (ewjUl)

315 Not Carson

I want a Lee Atwater type
a pipe-hittin' MFer

younger morons can google

Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024 04:28 PM (/7KEl)

316 Random reply to different posts above:

If Vance resigns bc he's elected VP, the gov of OH will NOT name his replacement. There would be a special election. In OH, the GOP would likely be favored in the special. I did say "favored," not "lead pipe cinch."

Trump faces 2 flavors of criminal indictments, state & federal. If Trump wins, I really, REALLY like his chances of getting all the federal charges dismissed! And tout suite, too. D'oh!

As for the state charges, I'm pretty confident that fed courts would rule that the states can't interfere with the POTUS' ability to fulfill his Constitutional responsibilities. Plus, the state charges are target rich environments for appellate courts. Don't take my word for it-- take Turley's & Dershowitz's.

I would like to abolish the phrase "leaked polls." It's SOOO misleading. "Internal polls released by the sponsor to promote a political agenda" is better, but it's hard to dance to.

Posted by: mnw at July 09, 2024 04:28 PM (NLIak)

317 Some good news out of Georgia.

State Election Board votes 3-1 to adopt a rule based on this petition to require ballots be hand counted at the precinct level by 3 poll officers each day of voting to ensure the totals match with the machines.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2024 04:17 PM (LkLld)
*********
That is good news.
Another reason why every office matters when voting.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (NpAcC)

318 I actually didn't know that.
I stand corrected.
But I still hear it.
Posted by: Diogenes

A lot of people make that association, so you're good.

The number I always associate with the witch is the chant her guards sing: "Oh wee oh, weeeee oh, oh."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)

319 JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP

Who knew that storms happen at sea?

Posted by: Admiral DEI at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (CwhoI)

320 Mike who?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (Y8lzz)

321 VP sweepstakes? Stefanik - If Trump picks her, I think he wins NY too - ie a landslide of Reagan proportions. Also, she's sharp, ultra conservative, and she beat the press like a drum this last weekend. She's good.

Zeldin came close last time around and some no name with no money cut Schumer's normal 20+ point blow outs to 10 points.

But...I think that's because they didn't work very hard on the fraud in NY thinking it was in the bag.

I would not at all be surprised to see Trump get more votes from eligible citizens in NY in 2024 but...what bearing that has on the official totals is questionable.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (oZhjI)

322 JUST IN - $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP

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Nothing like p*ssing away $230 million in taxpayer money. Think of all the culturally-sensitive meals we could've been providing our invaders instead...

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2024 04:29 PM (mupln)

323 $230 million US-Gaza aid pier to officially be "permanently dismantled" after only operating for ~21 days — AP
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:26 PM (IG4Id)

Can't remember. Did Biden list this as one of his landmark accomplishments?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (pohLc)

324 233 Note that the leak is coming from inside the campaign, not from the media or a Dem office holder.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (5p7BC)

Not a surprise - a ton of campaign folks want him out - did you see the quote on Philly TV by one of Biden's own canvassers "Oh, he's coming to Philly? I didn't know that. I hope he's awake for it."

Posted by: Nova Local at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (exHjb)

325 ‘ Biden Seemingly Threatens Democrats That If He Goes, They All Go’

I don’t see how Biden delivers on that threat. Whereas, I think the other democrats could guarantee that FJB and Hunter never see the outside of a prison again. Look how many crimes they have against Trump who didn’t commit any.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (jbnUc)

326 Remember the 2022 RED WAVE? It never happened.

Let's not start poofing each others poofers yet gentlemen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (QXQsI)

327 Well, I'm near the end and I just ain't got the time
And I'm wasted and I can't find my way home

Posted by: Joe Bdien at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (NtVYv)

328 Odds Joe Biden wrote that letter are close to none.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (2xB3Z)

329 And if not YD for VP, then Jim Harbaugh.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (v6JzV)

330 $230 million to build the pier, $300 million for dismantling, disposal, and environmental impact remediation.

Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (vFG9F)

331 Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2024 04:27 PM

Whomever Trump picks needs to be someone that can win POTUS themselves after Trump's 4yrs.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (ewjUl)

332 Hadrian,
You have a generator, right? I think I remember you saying you had one installed...

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (eYe8N)

333 "It's disturbing that even in a potentially good election cycle, we expect to lose the popular vote. "

The problem is CA. Huge population and lots of cheating. Write it off as a 3rd World country and lost cause.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (Gse2f)

334 The Pier kills me. It's the Mediterranean.

IF you COULD put a pier there, there would be a pier there.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (DQcg+)

335 @326 or breaking out the pudding.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (2xB3Z)

336 291 Former VP Mike Pence, famous for conducting his duties with the utmost cowardice and characterlessness, and tossed his dignity into the whorehouse outhouse, says,"I suck dick by choice."
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:25 PM (pohLc)

Pence and others ie:Linny Graham must be lanced like a boil or plucked out like an embedded Bot fly larvae.. STAT!!!UGH!!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (o3Uyl)

337 Sure, it's illegal to check that box if you're not a US citizen, but leftist prosecutorial discretion means they won't be charged

FL was amusing in this regard. DeSantis actually started enforcing this law and overnight the FNM line went from "No illegals ever vote" to "these poor undocumented immigrants just didn't know they weren't allowed to vote. DeSantis is a big racist!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (oZhjI)

338 Polymarket gives Biden a roughly seven in ten chance to win the nomination as of this writing, with Harris having a two in ten chance for it.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (RHGPo)

339 I think the VP should be old and bland. I also think the VP should show up to preside over the Senate every day and be a stickler for the rules.

-------

I think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (0FoWg)

340 That's only like $10 million a day. Let's see you operate a pier for $10 million a day.

Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (vFG9F)

341 337 Sure, it's illegal to check that box if you're not a US citizen, but leftist prosecutorial discretion means they won't be charged

FL was amusing in this regard. DeSantis actually started enforcing this law and overnight the FNM line went from "No illegals ever vote" to "these poor undocumented immigrants just didn't know they weren't allowed to vote. DeSantis is a big racist!"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:31 PM (oZhjI)

======

Our problem is not a surfeit of laws.

It's a lack of willingness to enforce the laws.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

342 TJM - checked my copy and it is also 7/2 so looks like you are right, only one leak.

Emerson polled all potential replacements for Biden, including Al Gore (not kidding).

Trump leads all of them, Biden is still their best candidate.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (5p7BC)

343 339 I think the VP should be old and bland. I also think the VP should show up to preside over the Senate every day and be a stickler for the rules.

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I think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (0FoWg)

I love the way you think.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (YVs21)

344 >>>I don’t see how Biden delivers on that threat.

I don't see that either. There's no Clinton or Obama machine behind him. He's just a meat puppet for the leftists who actually run the regime under his banner.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (CwhoI)

345 Whomever Trump picks needs to be someone that can win POTUS themselves after Trump's 4yrs.


I don't think he's ready yet but the progs would hate Vance.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (U8kCF)

346 Headed in to teach my evening classes. Y’all enjoy the afternoon.

Posted by: Piper at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (pZEOD)

347 Oh, I wasn’t pointing this out in favor of or not in favor of Carson - but let’s not suggest he is a “diversity hire”. He is an accomplished individual of the finest sort regardless of race.

The left poisons everything they touch. “You won’t vote for Mrs. Clinton because she is a woman”

They can’t argue in the realm of facts, logic, or reason, so they start calling you names. Fuck them.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (UTD5a)

348 339 I think the VP should be old and bland. I also think the VP should show up to preside over the Senate every day and be a stickler for the rules.

-------

I think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (0FoWg)

=======

My ideal does not preclude yours, to be fair. Just be bland about it.

"I'm sorry to say Senator that your disruption of the Senator's time opens you up to censure. The rules say that I get to pick, but I'll be fair. Do you want to keep your left or right leg? I didn't have breakfast."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

349 Remember the 2022 RED WAVE? It never happened.

In locales with election verification/protection the R's overperformed.

In locales where the Dems were expected to win easily the R's overperformed (but lost)

In locales where the elections were competitive and the Dems controlled the counting the R's seriously "underperformed"

I'm sure its because of abortion even though the pro-life R's did slightly better then the pro-abortion ones.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (oZhjI)

350 Headed in to teach my evening classes. Y’all enjoy the afternoon.
Posted by: Piper


You too, Piper.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)

351 think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:32 PM (0FoWg)

I love the way you think
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 09, 2024 04:32


Yes yes yes!!!!!

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:33 PM (U8kCF)

352 Stefanik is a good choice not because she'll carry NY - she won't - but I am fairly sure she can bottle up PA for MAGA, and make inroads into NH and NJ.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (gKWVE)

353
Hadrian,
You have a generator, right? I think I remember you saying you had one installed...
Posted by: lin-duh who owns one

_________

We have four. Right now we're running the big one through a transfer switch to run either the well or the downstairs AC. We're slaving off the RV generator for fans for the dogs and the refrigerator. And a small one for charging units and, if necessary, the chest freezer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (e+lF5)

354 This leak is purely to pressure Brandon and the doctor. That poll is ludicrous. They probably made it all up this morning.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2024 04:23 PM


Doesn't make a difference if the poll is real or not, biden's mega donors are shutting their check books and refusing to give him anymore money. Without their money his campaign dies.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

355 I want a Lee Atwater type
a pipe-hittin' MFer

younger morons can google
Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024


***
With that name, I keep thinking he was the guy who played Surak on Star Trek!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (J2vNu)

356 I think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


And a spork!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 09, 2024 04:35 PM (4XwPj)

357 I want a Lee Atwater type
a pipe-hittin' MFer

younger morons can google
Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024

Wasn't he the one who started Red, Hot, and Blue?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:35 PM (v6JzV)

358 Biden can bring them down. Not via law enforcement, by dragging the whole Dem. ticket down with him. Rather than coattails up, a stage hook down.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (pohLc)

359 352 Stefanik is a good choice not because she'll carry NY - she won't - but I am fairly sure she can bottle up PA for MAGA, and make inroads into NH and NJ.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (gKWVE)

Press will destroy a white woman, like they did Palin and all R pres candidate women. This is not the election to put a woman on the ballot when there are many different AND better male choices.

A women risks black/Hispanic male turnout for Rs. A women gains...nothing. We've already ticked the "1st woman VP" box...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (exHjb)

360 >>As for the state charges, I'm pretty confident that fed courts would rule that the states can't interfere with the POTUS' ability to fulfill his Constitutional responsibilities


ALL the State cases would have to go back to step one prior to moving forward. They would need to employ a test to clear any charges and evidence of being Dutiful to the Presidency / Personal to the Man.

Like I said up-thread. He'd already be well past the Election before those were even possible.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (DQcg+)

361 I've taken to mentally putting quotes around "Joe" and "Biden" every time "he" has said something.

Like substituting "fake" for "trans".
This helps to keep the facts clearer in my mind.

Posted by: sal at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (y7DxH)

362 Follow-up on @270

Most polling right now isn't adjusted for "likely to vote." Polls get tightened closer to the election, but gives full credit if you voted four years before. So the effect I described in @270 will be even stronger as we get close to the election.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (Gse2f)

363 Must be a slow news day. I thought that everyone knew that the Wienerschnitzel restaurant doesn't even serve Wienerschnitzel.

Posted by: fd at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (vFG9F)

364 362 Follow-up on @270

Most polling right now isn't adjusted for "likely to vote." Polls get tightened closer to the election, but gives full credit if you voted four years before. So the effect I described in @270 will be even stronger as we get close to the election.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (Gse2f)

=======

I've stopped believing this pattern.

I think it's more easily explained by polling firms going from pure narrative framing to trying to get it right so they can be called accurate afterwards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

365 With Trump being a lame duck, and hopefully more enraged than a scorned woman, he needs a good VP to carry on MAGA

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 04:37 PM (fwDg9)

366 I think he should be a hatchet-wielding cannibal, and show up every day at the Senate with a bottle of A1.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


"Today I announce my resignation from the United States Senate, effective immediately."
-- Sen. A. Long Pigg (D-MI)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:37 PM (v6JzV)

367 IF you COULD put a pier there, there would be a pier there.
Posted by: garrett


Then again, we are talking about Gazans in that case.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (IG4Id)

368 Without their money his campaign dies.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

Don't underestimate the magnificent force of psychopathology.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (GFoyL)

369 Whomever Trump picks needs to be someone that can win POTUS themselves after Trump's 4yrs.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 09, 2024 04:30 PM (ewjUl)

Thanks for making my point! Then all my picks can do that...others, like Rubio or Burgum or Haley aren't ever going to have the reach needed to do that...we need Trump 2.0 at that stage...although Rubio acquitted himself rather well last week in front of the press...but he falls back on the GOPe too much.

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (K+UlC)

370 "To even suggest Dr. Ben Carson “Didn’t Earn It” is fucking crazy. He ain’t a “diversity hire” which is rather the point."

He earned it as a doctor, but he is not the hot iron Trump needs for VP, imo. And as I said, he would appear to be a DEI, chosen for his race ... and that is no doubt a consideration in this case.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (Cus5s)

371 I think it's more easily explained by polling firms going from pure narrative framing to trying to get it right so they can be called accurate afterwards.

Who is paying for the poll?

There are GOP/Dem pollsters so you know they are trying to favor some narrative for there person.

But most of the nominally independent poll organizations are paid by Uncle Sugar in some form or other...which means they are also Democrats.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (oZhjI)

372 Doesn't make a difference if the poll is real or not, biden's mega donors are shutting their check books and refusing to give him anymore money. Without their money his campaign dies.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)
---
Interesting point.

How much of that money is needed to fund the cheat?

Those people will not engage in chicanery unless they are being paid for it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 09, 2024 04:39 PM (7fElN)

373 >>Then again, we are talking about Gazans in that case.


You would think that by now they'd have enough Rubble to build a Breakwater.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2024 04:39 PM (DQcg+)

374 Dr. Ben Carson once separated a pair of Siamese twins.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:39 PM (v6JzV)

375 nood chuck schumer
not amy

Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 09, 2024 04:39 PM (Jh5b+)

376 233 Note that the leak is coming from inside the campaign, not from the media or a Dem office holder.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:14 PM (5p7BC)

Hunter Biden Supreme Advisor the the Presnint of the US statement regarding leaks within the Biden White House.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3vzbku

FF to 3:00 for the punchline

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (o3Uyl)

377 371 Who is paying for the poll?

There are GOP/Dem pollsters so you know they are trying to favor some narrative for there person.

But most of the nominally independent poll organizations are paid by Uncle Sugar in some form or other...which means they are also Democrats.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:38 PM (oZhjI)

=======

Well, sure, but the sudden movement beginning around September is well-understand as normal with the explanation being, "Oh, well, people are finally paying attention to politics now."

Which has always sounded bullshitty to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

378 It doesn't matter if the VP is Trump II. What matters is that we have a good-sized batch of conservative state governors ready, willing, and able to be solid successors.

Posted by: mrp at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (rj6Yv)

379 We're living in very interesting times.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (w6EFb)

380 We have four. Right now we're running the big one through a transfer switch to run either the well or the downstairs AC. We're slaving off the RV generator for fans for the dogs and the refrigerator. And a small one for charging units and, if necessary, the chest freezer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
----
worse case you could live in the RV... would be crowded but you'd have AC, fridge, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (eYe8N)

381 A women risks black/Hispanic male turnout for Rs. A women gains...nothing. We've already ticked the "1st woman VP" box...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 09, 2024 04:36 PM (exHjb)

I agree.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2024 04:41 PM (GFoyL)

382 How much of that money is needed to fund the cheat?


I suspect not that much unfortunately.

Prior to mail-in fraud a lot of what the Democrats did was pay people to vote. This has been mentioned in passing in every election I can remember whether it was called "walking around money" or something else.

But now it is all casting ballots for people that don't vote and/or don't exist. That doesn't take much money formally - the people involved are paid later with no-show government/NGO jobs.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 09, 2024 04:41 PM (oZhjI)

383 >Dr. Ben Carson once separated a pair of Siamese twins.
---


cool
but that's no help facing down Putin or Xi

Posted by: Don Black at July 09, 2024 04:41 PM (/7KEl)

384 Who is paying for the poll?

Emerson that just dropped is brutal for Biden. Paid for by a Dem organization.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:42 PM (5p7BC)

385 At the very least, I think "leaked" polls is better than leaked polls.

The situation reminds me of all the near-naked babes at the Daily Mail and their "candid" photos. How many publicists worked for how long to get those "candid" photos in the Daily Mail?

Posted by: mnw at July 09, 2024 04:42 PM (NLIak)

386 Did any actual "aid" enter Gaza via the pier?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 09, 2024 04:42 PM (63Dwl)

387 "Biden Seemingly Threatens Democrats That If He Goes, They All Go"

I find these terms acceptable.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 09, 2024 04:42 PM (fvaUq)

388 Ben Carson is a wonderful, decent, admirable man. Just the guy we don't need as VP. We need a berserker, filled with a burning rage to crush the deep state.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:43 PM (pohLc)

389 15. I read that as Amber Heard. Way things are that might make sense.
No idea who Amber Rose is.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 09, 2024 04:43 PM (4780s)

390 Ben Carson is a wonderful, decent, admirable man. Just the guy we don't need as VP. We need a berserker, filled with a burning rage to crush the deep state.


So Vance?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:43 PM (U8kCF)

391 cool
but that's no help facing down Putin or Xi
Posted by: Don Black

Agreed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 09, 2024 04:43 PM (v6JzV)

392 It doesn't matter if the VP is Trump II. What matters is that we have a good-sized batch of conservative state governors ready, willing, and able to be solid successors.
Posted by: mrp at July 09, 2024 04:40 PM (rj6Yv)

A puncto quod non est opus factum - thank you.

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2024 04:44 PM (K+UlC)

393 I forgot to mention over the weekend. Full clip of Axelrod, he talks about Dem governors from that meeting on the 3rd told Biden that they can't guarantee he will win their states.

In not 100% who he is referring to, except I know NM and MN are two of them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 09, 2024 04:45 PM (5p7BC)

394 Vance moved here to Alexandria and the local perverts are LITERALLY crocheting rainbow lamppost coozies to torment him.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:45 PM (U8kCF)

395 I am still waiting for the Democrats to toss Sundowner out.
And thinking it's. From the Oval Office not just as nomination.
It might be their only way out to have Harris as nominee and a new VP

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 04:45 PM (fwDg9)

396 how the fuck are Mayor Buttplug and Bitchen Hitler putting up those kind of numbers? seems like serious wishcasting/ cheatcasting

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 09, 2024 04:45 PM (bAvAQ)

397 388 Ben Carson is a wonderful, decent, admirable man. Just the guy we don't need as VP. We need a berserker, filled with a burning rage to crush the deep state.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 09, 2024 04:43 PM (pohLc)

I thought so at one point. But who would that be? Give us a name?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2024 04:46 PM (GFoyL)

398 Carson is boring
Tim Scott ok
Vance idk, might be too white
Like Burgam but boring
Stefanik meh
DeSantis obvious but also doesn't campaign well
Youngkin. He's great but not a chainsaw
Tom Cotton?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:49 PM (U8kCF)

399 Posted by: Ordinary American at July 09, 2024 04:46 PM (GFoyL)

Ron DeSantis

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 09, 2024 04:49 PM (wGerL)

400 How do they get past florida problem with DeSantis or rubio?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:51 PM (U8kCF)

401 thought so at one point. But who would that be? Give us aRubio?

Vance, DeSantis, Tom cotton, nunes, Jim jordon, ....

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 09, 2024 04:53 PM (U8kCF)

402 396
‘ how the fuck are Mayor Buttplug and Bitchen Hitler putting up those kind of numbers?’

They’re the least known.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 09, 2024 04:54 PM (jbnUc)

403 "The problem is CA. Huge population and lots of cheating. Write it off as a 3rd World country and lost cause."

Thats why I think Trump should have a rally here. It would set the demoralized Repubs on fire!

Posted by: PJU at July 09, 2024 04:54 PM (G1dq6)

404 PJU -Trump went into center Philadelphia where he will lose 25%-75% though most from fraud

Posted by: Skip at July 09, 2024 04:56 PM (fwDg9)

405 I am ever so Fortunate(!) to be living in Illinois! I know my vote will count. For nothing. (spits)

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at July 09, 2024 05:16 PM (yBPl+)

406 I saw a poll a few days ago that had Trump up 2 (but within the margin of error) in ...

New Jersey

Posted by: the other coyote at July 09, 2024 05:55 PM (oGPcA)

407 Mike Flynn for Vp. He has an AXE to grind.

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408 The Dems vote as block they will be rejected as a block. What did they expect. They will spend years in the wilderness.

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