The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Screwing up domestic policies by embracing an insane pseudo-philosophy is par for the course with the Democrat party. Spend money we don't have? Sure! Push the lunacy of transgenderism (including child mutilation)? Why not! Open the borders to every criminal on earth? Hell yes! Militarize federal law enforcement against political enemies? Duh! Create a seamless vote-stealing apparatus to maintain power? Dude!

And our country has muddled along since 1828 with this malign influence constantly eroding the intent of our founders. The Democrat party protected slavery...both the chattel flavor and the modern equivalent of keeping its pressure groups in financial and social bondage via its expansive welfare state and constant application of the charge of racism.

But we have managed by and large to keep that dirty laundry confined to our domestic political sphere. We tend to unify when foreign affairs come knocking. Sure, we have had idiots at the helm, and our foreign adventures are increasingly driven by grift and graft and nonsensical geopolitical considerations like "Nation Building!" But the defense of America tended to be the primary consideration.

Those days are gone. We have now trotted out the worst failures of our internal political complexities for the world to see. A nodding, drooling, incoherent octogenarian is now the face of America. And worse than that; it is abundantly clear that his junta's goals are not the defense of America and it citizens across the world. No, the overarching goal is a vacuous post-modern "All Countries Are Equal" nonsense, coupled with the original sin of being the richest and most successful country on earth.

That projects weakness, and the world has noticed.

Stone-age Houthis can now control a huge chunk of world trade because they are unafraid of America's might. 7th century savages can rape and murder and kidnap Americans, and our national response is cowardly -- evenhanded in the worst possible way. Our traditional adversaries on the world stage are chipping away at our spheres of influence without a care. Cuba...Venezuela...most of the Pacific...Europe...the Middle East...

And our response is to trot out the dessicated husk that sits atop the aimless and chaotic administrative state that supposedly guides our foreign policy for a politically motivated presser designed to reassure domestic adversaries.

Embattled Biden prepares for leadership test in NATO press conference

President Joe Biden will hold a rare press conference on the sidelines of the 75th NATO summit that the White House has billed as a “big boy” event.
A make-or-break moment, the press conference comes as Biden faces mounting pressure from Democrats to appear in public without the help of a script and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) encourages her congressional colleagues to provide the president with this week to prove himself after last month’s first debate against former President Donald Trump.

Way to bury the lede!

Never mind that it will be an unmistakable signal that the Commander in Chief is not in control, and America's foreign policy and military are being controlled behind the scenes by a sorry group of political operatives intent upon securing power for themselves, and furthering their own political agendas.

The goal has so obviously changed that it is now unrecognizable. "A Big Boy Event?" What happened to dignity and firm application of American power and influence? What happened to the simple goal of protecting America's interests above all others?

The destruction of America's image and self-image began here, in the minds of our college students of the 1960s, and then in their students as they became professors and high school teachers. Their tentacles have entered every bit of the educational complex, and the explosion of college attendance (driven by the SCOTUS decision in Griggs v. Duke Power) has shifted America from a rational people who eventually lean on their innate good sense to a fragmented society in which a good chunk of that common sense has been destroyed by the idiocy of higher education.

Hopefully the trend away from college as the only path to success will accelerate, and the glut of baristas and part-time web designers will ease...replaced by HVAC techs and plumbers and steamfitters and heavy equipment operators.

You know...the people who are the repository of that famed American common sense!

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)

2 I'll cull the otters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)

3 morn

Posted by: Ciampino - at July 11, 2024 11:01 AM (qfLjt)

4 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:01 AM (ibKjr)

5 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:01 AM (qqpmb)

6 I'm a Big Boy, even though I still poop in my pants!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (uxCna)

7 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)

8 Well, at least Biden effed some world leader's wife, so we have that going for us.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (v6JzV)

9 I just heard on AM talk radio that biden will be given note cards with the pictures of the reporters he is "allowed" to call on at today's press briefing. They claim there are no pre arranged questions but I find that a bit hard to believe at this point.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (QNSds)

10 Commenting present
Posted by: Skip

But are you accounted for?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (ibKjr)

11 7th century savages can rape and murder and kidnap Americans, and our national response is cowardly -- evenhanded in the worst possible way

If America was a serious country we would have been demolishing targets in Gaza on Oct 8 with whatever air and sea resources we have in the area and a deadline to have all hostages returned within the time it would take a flight of B-52s to get to Gaza from Diego Garcia or else all Gaza would be literally flattened.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:03 AM (oZhjI)

12 So who was Biden talking to at the NATO conference when he said he was f*cking someone's wife?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:03 AM (oZhjI)

13 You know...the people who are the repository of that famed American common sense!

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Junior asked me the most random question while in DC while walking to the Capitol.

"Who wrote Common Sense?"

"Thomas Paine," I was able to respond quickly (I read it many moons ago).

I think he learned about it in school.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

14 The biggest problem we face is that most of our politicians are bought and paid for by China. Our foreign policy is being directed by Beijing.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 11, 2024 11:05 AM (mlQIE)

15 One wonders what are the criteria for a successful "big boy" event.

Doesn't defecate on stage?
Stays put instead of wandering around?

I think it's obvious that Biden will be on his full drug cocktail today, but I seriously doubt even a highly successful event, whatever that means, will be enough to convince the electorate that he's in charge.

Sure, he might be okay for X hours, but what happens when he isn't?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

16 No way they let Biden handle this press conference on his own. He will get a nap, get loaded up on his cocktail, have an ear piece in, see the questions in advance etc etc.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (pH3In)

17 14 The biggest problem we face is that most of our politicians are bought and paid for by China. Our foreign policy is being directed by Beijing.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 11, 2024 11:05 AM (mlQIE)

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Or Iran. Or the cartels. Or some other nation that has a spare $10,000 and a DC rolodex.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (GBKbO)

18 As an interesting point to consider, America has been a "unchallenged hyperpower" since 1991. And in that time we've won one war (Gulf War) and lost at least two - Stan and Iraq.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (oZhjI)

19 You know...the people who are the repository of that famed American common sense!

It's our job to tell people what to think, d*mmit!

Posted by: Mika Brzezinski & the Deep Staters at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (a3Q+t)

20 7 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"

The press secretary. She probably didn't realize how stupid it sounded.

I'm torn between being amused at the upcoming press conference and horrified at what could go wrong.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (lXoJ5)

21 So who was Biden talking to at the NATO conference when he said he was f*cking someone's wife?

Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (xCA6C)

22 The biggest problem we face is that most of our politicians are bought and paid for by China. Our foreign policy is being directed by Beijing.

Why bother spending billions or even trillions on direct conflict when you can buy politicians for millions or less?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (oZhjI)

23 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

24 > The biggest problem we face is that most of our politicians are bought and paid for by China. Our foreign policy is being directed by Beijing.
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So's a lot of our infrastructure.

China overthrew the US government without firing a shot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

25 I've been wondering what the next turn of the screw against Joe by the Democratic establishment will be.

My guess is that Cabinet members will start resigning.

The problem is that the Democratic establishment wants Joe to stop running for President, while continuing to be President for the next six months.

Hard to distinguish the two if Cabinet members start quitting.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:07 AM (uxCna)

26 Go, CBD!

Posted by: KT at July 11, 2024 11:08 AM (rrtZS)

27
But are you accounted for?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (ibKjr)

That's when he announces it can be lunchtime.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

28 Little Joey, it's time to put on your big boy pants!!

Posted by: Little Joey's mommy at July 11, 2024 11:09 AM (9lmRa)

29 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)

Shoneys?

Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2024 11:09 AM (AwYPR)

30
Open the borders to every criminal on earth? Hell yes!

Sounds like a good short story I could write. Criminal elements from foreign countries show up at major polling stations in swing states on Election Day and don't actually vote, just intimidate Trump voters into leaving before voting. Mail in ballots from overwhelmingly (D) voters carry the day.

I gotta stop reading the news today, oh boy.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 11:09 AM (RKVpM)

31 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"
Union Pacific RR?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (/U5Yz)

32 Re the sidebar about Harvard "caving" and blowing air-kisses to the scumbag terror whores who occupied the college grounds like a violent invasion:

This wasn't a "cave." It was the plan all along. Harvard wanted to look tough for 15 minutes and try to calm the big-money donors. But the college always knew that when the cameras were mostly gone and the Thing has moved on, the soft gloves to wrist-slap would come out.

Fuck these people sideways down the throat with that Pelosi homo's wet, monkeypox-dripping hammer.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)

33 Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO.

So Ingrid Schulerud wasn't bad looking in her youth/middle age...and I think we have to give Biden some extra credit since she isn't related to him.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (oZhjI)

34 Chris Plante had an interesting tidbit on his show yesterday. He said that Ike stated when NATO was formed that if US forces were still in Europe in ten years, NATO would be deemed a failure.

Ike wanted the Western Euros to be responsible for their own defense as part of their alliance with us. But, we ended up bearing most of that responsibility.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)

35 Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (pH3In)

Exactly. Also, expectations weren't set too high when it was called a "big boy" conference"
It sounds like something some parents refer to when their kid is
through potty training and now he's a big boy who can use the toilet all by himself. Uggh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (4WIyI)

36 The way things are going for the Democrats, I expect them to realize sometime in October that Kennedy would have been their best alternative voting option to defeat Trump -- if only Democrats had not worked so hard to keep him off the ballot in many key states.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (qUkBO)

37 Fuck these people sideways down the throat with that Pelosi homo's wet, monkeypox-dripping hammer.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)

That's hot.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

38 Great commentary. Thank you.

Posted by: Eli Cash at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (ZQUaf)

39 Commenting present
Posted by: Skip

But are you accounted for?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:02 AM (ibKjr)

Accounted for is an explanation for why one is not present so present supersedes accounted for.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (U7wke)

40 my take on the Big Boy presser, from late in art thread -

It will be semi-scripted. First or second Joe will select a reporter who has agreed to ask a question about his debate performance and if he's still running. (If it's not first, the first will be a scripted question about NATO and Ukraine and the dangers Trump poses to them.) The scripted debate and campaign status question will be a set-up for Joe. Joe will burn time repeating his current mantra that he bad night and is in the race all the way. Then he'll burn more time reciting his standard anti-Trump stump speech. When he gets more questions about the debate, unscripted, he'll say he already answered them, then say he will only take questions about other topics.

Could work. Depends on how frequently he goes head-down for a long time reading his note cards and the binder that will be on the podium before he enters. And on him not going into Blank Brandon-face mode.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (5fDan)

41 The press secretary. Supposedly referring to the press pool needed, not the president.
Then misinterpreted and repeated by some other idiot spokesperson.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2024 11:12 AM (4780s)

42 I've been wondering what the next turn of the screw against Joe by the Democratic establishment will be.

This guy provides a list of options, although I doubt the Dems would actually resort to them.

Here’s How Dems Can Force Biden Out

All House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer – or, again, a sufficiently large cadre of Democratic members in both chambers – need to do is communicate to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that they have suddenly been convinced to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry into Mr. Biden’s conduct already underway by House Republicans.

Removing, concealing, and unlawfully sharing confidential documents, which the Special Counsel acknowledges would justify prosecution were it not for Mr. Biden’s sodden cerebral state.
Receiving cash wires from family members approximating the “10% for the Big Guy” shortly after their transfers from foreign entities.
Boastfully withholding aid to Ukraine to force the removal of a prosecutor investigating Hunter....
and etc.

https://tinyurl.com/3ys575ye

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:12 AM (xCA6C)

43
Our "allies" in mainland European NATO basically did nothing during the WoT. And Shrub, of course, allowed it.

There was no reason for NATO to exist after the fall of the Soviet Union and their behavior during the WoT showed it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:13 AM (oZhjI)

44 Meanwhile, back at the absolute nuthouse that is lefty media, they've convinced themselves Trump has appointed a "Secretary of Retribution" and fully intends to send out right wing death squads, and the crazy lefties think there is an actual hit list.

Since these clowns specialize in projection, I'm officially a little worried now.

https://shorturl.at/3DTaf

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2024 11:13 AM (n7c6k)

45
I'd watch the "Press Conference" this afternoon but am ironically hosting a party for a 3 year old, just like the press corps.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2024 11:13 AM (j4U/Z)

46 Big Boob presser, more like.

And not the good kind of big boob, either.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)

47 President Joe Biden will hold a rare press conference on the sidelines of the 75th NATO summit that the White House has billed as a “big boy” event.

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What, "The Big Guy" event wasn't available?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:13 AM (ab6ii)

48 I was hungry so I started each lunch already. Before Skip said it can be lunchtime. I'm a rebel!!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (RhGG0)

49 "Big Boy Event"? Do these people have the slightest clue what they sound like?

(Spoiler: Obviously not)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu)

50 Press conference...even if it goes pretty well, who do they think they're fooling?

Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

51 Great commentary. Thank you.

Posted by: Eli Cash at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (ZQUaf)

Thanks!

It sort of got away from me and turned into a rant.

Oh...wait...it's SUPPOSED to be a rant!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (d9fT1)

52 So is our election narrative about to be the old demented felon vs the wily fresh young prosecutor? Ugh.

I can't wait to watch Trump fucking dismantle the stupid cow. She'll still get cheated in but it will be fun to watch until then.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (U2stO)

53 Junior asked me the most random question while in DC while walking to the Capitol.

"Who wrote Common Sense?"

"Thomas Paine," I was able to respond quickly (I read it many moons ago).

I think he learned about it in school.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Quite frankly I find going to DC depressing nowadays.

That being said, there is a good spot at the James Madison Library of Congress building for lunch. Cafeteria on the top floor which is almost never crowded and few tourists know about.

Hawk and Dove down PA Avenue might be another good bet, if still there as it was the last time I was in DC in the 00's. It is/was a timeless old style pub bar that was in a former funeral home building. Quirky interior layout.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (mIs2x)

54 The way things are going for the Democrats, I expect them to realize sometime in October that Kennedy would have been their best alternative voting option to defeat Trump -- if only Democrats had not worked so hard to keep him off the ballot in many key states.

The problem for RFK is the Dems still cared about protecting Pfizer and Moderna when he started talking about running and no way would they allow a "vaccine skeptic" to run in their primary.

Amusingly I suspect if the primary season was starting NOW they might have been a lot more amenable as they don't care much about COVID anymore.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (oZhjI)

55 51 Oh...wait...it's SUPPOSED to be a rant!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (d9fT1)

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*taps title of post*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)

56 Big Mac event!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (63Dwl)

57 Is there a time yet for the Big Boy Pants press conference?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (qqpmb)

58 This isn't a threadjack but y'all are taking a long time to get to 100. Carried over cuz it needs responding to...

There's no inviting or exclusion in Corsicana. Sometimes small groups split off to enjoy each other's company for a few minutes.
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That explains why the one time I was able to go, I found myself in my usual group of one. The last time I can remember anyone enjoying my company, I believe Dinosaur still trod the earth.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 11, 2024 10:58 AM (46/wy)

Many of us are pretty introverted. I, myself, meet up with people exactly once per year. As a result, and in understanding, if we see people at the MoMe sitting alone, particularly if we don't visually recognize them, we'll leave them be in case they're trying to re-center themselves.

When you're ready for a bit of company, just walk up to pretty much any small group - optionally listen to what they're talking about for a minute - introduce yourself and join the conversation. No one has kicked me out of one yet.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U7wke)

59 Big Boy presser delayed til 630

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U8kCF)

60 59 Big Boy presser delayed til 630
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U8kCF)

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They're going to cancel it.

Hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)

61 Press conference...even if it goes pretty well, who do they think they're fooling?
Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

You asked for it.........

https://youtu.be/rp1Vieg6Wig

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

62 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"
Union Pacific RR?

Posted by: Maj. Healey

What, forgotten already?

Posted by: Shoney's at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (OUMaO)

63 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (d9fT1)

We have the best dildo rants, don't we folks? The best.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (U2stO)

64 Damn.

Strike one......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

65 31 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"
Union Pacific RR?

indeed. there is, in fact, a gen-you-wine bigboy event going on just at the moment. 4014 is on its way to california.

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (oY6Yp)

66 Meanwhile, back at the absolute nuthouse that is lefty media, they've convinced themselves Trump has appointed a "Secretary of Retribution" and fully intends to send out right wing death squads, and the crazy lefties think there is an actual hit list.

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As has been said here many a time before and by many a commenter: "You don't have to convince me any further, I'm already voting for Trump."

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (ab6ii)

67 I think the Big Boy is really the size of the drug syringe they will be using on Joe before the presser.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (/U5Yz)

68 The Big Boy gets 10% of the cookies.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (qUkBO)

69 I was hungry so I started each lunch already. Before Skip said it can be lunchtime. I'm a rebel!!
Posted by: Doof

Well, playing pickleball and ogling the MILFs while defending Rush would give anyone an appetite.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (v6JzV)

70 If Trump wins and he wants to have a successful presidency he's going to have to put a bunch of people in prison - from Fauci to Mayorkas.

"Retribution"? Yes. But more importantly justice.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (oZhjI)

71 Big Boy presser delayed til 630
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U8kCF)

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They're going to cancel it.

Hilarious.

Delay is to miss nightly news. Won't start til 645 if they do it.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (U8kCF)

72 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu

LOL. I think we should find other terminology used in reference to 2-3 year olds to refer to this event.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (4WIyI)

73 12 So who was Biden talking to at the NATO conference when he said he was f*cking someone's wife?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024

I actually don’t hear that when I listen. I hear a slurred “talking” . But I also hear a slurred intellectual “rigor” versus what others are hearing.

Maybe I am being too nice. Hahaha.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (A/yld)

74 4014 is on its way to california.

Saw it in Utah last year. Impressive.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (/U5Yz)

75 I was hungry so I started each lunch already. Before Skip said it can be lunchtime. I'm a rebel!!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (RhGG0)

How many are you having?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

76 I can't wait to watch Trump fucking dismantle the stupid cow. She'll still get cheated in but it will be fun to watch until then.
Posted by: ...

As Trump rises in the polls, the easy cheat becomes mathematically impossible. The obvious one is left but highly subject to failure due to differences in state's legal systems. Voter turnout in excess of registered population is prima facie proof of fraud in the caselaw of even blue states.

So the question in that case becomes do the elite roll the dice for massive civil unrest that just might get out of control or settle sullenly and wait Trump out.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (mIs2x)

77 59 Big Boy presser delayed til 630
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U8kCF)
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Interesting. I had read that the presser came right after all day meetings. Maybe Biden will need a nap.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (G0vdT)

78 72 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu

LOL. I think we should find other terminology used in reference to 2-3 year olds to refer to this event.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (4WIyI)

What, the "Lil Sport" press conference?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (exHjb)

79 49 "Big Boy Event"? Do these people have the slightest clue what they sound like?

manly and steam-powered

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (oY6Yp)

80 Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (/U5Yz

I laughed but it's probably true.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (4WIyI)

81 and the crazy lefties think there is an actual hit list.

Project much?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (U8kCF)

82 No way they let Biden handle this press conference on his own. He will get a nap, get loaded up on his cocktail, have an ear piece in, see the questions in advance etc etc.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2024 11:06 AM (pH3In)

Who's that talking in my head? Stop telling me what to say. Corn pop tried that once but I took him to the woodshed and beat his sorry ass.

What. Uhhn exit stage left? Huh. Which way. I'm gommget cookies backstage?

I banged your wife in the backstage.

TRUMNAMULATION!

Posted by: Preznit Ruprect the Monkeyboy at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (cDSRP)

83 I just saw on X that Victor Orban will be visiting Trump at Mar-A-Lago tomorrow. Orban is the president of Hungary

Posted by: Jmel at July 11, 2024 11:18 AM (bVhJi)

84 "61 Press conference...even if it goes pretty well, who do they think they're fooling?"

Us! Every time!

Posted by: Gary and Charlene, Stoughton, MA at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (qUkBO)

85 Doof- I played tennis for years and was hesitant to start playing pickleball. Started 2 weeks ago, and am now playing regularly.

Some damn fine views at the courts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (qZEuM)

86 Here’s How Dems Can Force Biden Out

All House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer – or, again, a sufficiently large cadre of Democratic members in both chambers – need to do is communicate to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that they have suddenly been convinced to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry into Mr. Biden’s conduct already underway by House Republicans.

LOL. If I were Joe, Hunter, or DOCTOR Jill, I'd laugh and say "bring it".

The Democratic establishment really wants to have an impeachment inquiry in the middle of a Presidential election?

Joe's advantage is that if he just hangs tough, they will get back into line.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (uxCna)

87 I actually don’t hear that when I listen. I hear a slurred “talking” . But I also hear a slurred intellectual “rigor” versus what others are hearing.

Maybe I am being too nice. Hahaha.

You heard correctly, but it's fun to pretend.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

88
"Go back to China!"
-- Nancy Pelosi

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (RKVpM)

89 70 If Trump wins and he wants to have a successful presidency he's going to have to put a bunch of people in prison - from Fauci to Mayorkas.

"Retribution"? Yes. But more importantly justice.
Posted by: 18-1
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Truth and Reconciliation Committee model used in South Africa and former E. European Commie states. In return for immunity from prosecution, the guilty had to publicly admit what they did.

Sometimes justice is best left to the Lord because otherwise, desperate criminals figure like mass murderers--after the first one, the rest of the crimes are free.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (mIs2x)

90 What, the "Lil Sport" press conference?

I laughed and thanks, because I could use some laughs

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (4WIyI)

91 86 LOL. If I were Joe, Hunter, or DOCTOR Jill, I'd laugh and say "bring it".

The Democratic establishment really wants to have an impeachment inquiry in the middle of a Presidential election?

Joe's advantage is that if he just hangs tough, they will get back into line.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (uxCna)

=======

It's how he won the nomination in 2020. Kamala called him a racist to his face during the first primary debate, even.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

92 I was hungry so I started each lunch already. Before Skip said it can be lunchtime. I'm a rebel!!
Posted by: Doof

Well, playing pickleball and ogling the MILFs while defending Rush would give anyone an appetite.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:16 AM (v6JzV)

I made an investment in lunch foods. Then I invested in clean hands. Now I'm investing in my stomach. Soon I'll invest in a potty break.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:20 AM (RhGG0)

93 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024
*
LOL. I think we should find other terminology used in reference to 2-3 year olds to refer to this event.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024

***
So the "Look What Joe Can Do!" title is right out?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:20 AM (J2vNu)

94 So the question in that case becomes do the elite roll the dice for massive civil unrest that just might get out of control or settle sullenly and wait Trump out.

Or launch a coup with the cooperation of the military, which is a real possibility at this point.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:20 AM (uxCna)

95 Interesting. I had read that the presser came right after all day meetings. Maybe Biden will need a nap.

So when they kill him with cocaine/provigil/Adderall cocktails, what happens? Oh, nevermind, same shit.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:20 AM (U8kCF)

96 89 Truth and Reconciliation Committee model used in South Africa and former E. European Commie states. In return for immunity from prosecution, the guilty had to publicly admit what they did.

Sometimes justice is best left to the Lord because otherwise, desperate criminals figure like mass murderers--after the first one, the rest of the crimes are free.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (mIs2x)

========

Our elite would take the deal and then say "I don't recall" during questioning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

97 So the question in that case becomes do the elite roll the dice for massive civil unrest that just might get out of control or settle sullenly and wait Trump out.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (mIs2x)

Who stops them is my question.

And please remember I was asking this very question as a thought experiment in 2012. Who stops Obama from canceling the election?

I was lectured that our brave Fightin' Republicans would never stand for it. Or that there would be a riot at the Capitol and that would do it.

The answer was no one.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (U2stO)

98 provigil

That stuff is AMAZEBALLS.

The generic, however.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

99 What, the "Lil Sport" press conference?

I laughed and thanks, because I could use some laughs
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024

***
The "My First Presidency" press conference?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (J2vNu)

100 Truth and Reconciliation Committee model used in South Africa and former E. European Commie states. In return for immunity from prosecution, the guilty had to publicly admit what they did.

The commies just came back into power in Poland so I think in the long term this model doesn't work.

And even in the short term you'd get people like Fauci saying "mistakes were made" and then demanding immunity...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (oZhjI)

101 ~WHEW~

Just finished muck raking all the stalls here on the peanut ranch! Think I'll have a bologna sandwich, sooooo

LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiRuj2_czzw

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at July 11, 2024 11:22 AM (5hfjS)

102
I made an investment in lunch foods. Then I invested in clean hands. Now I'm investing in my stomach. Soon I'll invest in a potty break.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024

***
Sound. Always a good rate of return there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:22 AM (J2vNu)

103 Style guide insists that "Reich-Wing Death Squads" is the preferred term.

Posted by: DU Press Release at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (V5BDR)

104 Doof- I played tennis for years and was hesitant to start playing pickleball. Started 2 weeks ago, and am now playing regularly.

Some damn fine views at the courts.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (qZEuM)

Welcome to the cult!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (RhGG0)

105 Perhaps someone pointed out that the Rose Garden will be hot as blazes at 4:30 pm.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (qUkBO)

106 I made an investment in lunch foods. Then I invested in clean hands. Now I'm investing in my stomach. Soon I'll invest in a potty break.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024

As long as you remember that bitcoin is NOT an investment, you're good.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

107 I made an investment in lunch foods. Then I invested in clean hands. Now I'm investing in my stomach. Soon I'll invest in a potty break.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024

***
Sound. Always a good rate of return there.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

And a diverse portfolio.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)

108 90 What, the "Lil Sport" press conference?

I laughed and thanks, because I could use some laughs
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (4WIyI)

I was gonna go with the "Hey Squirt" press conference, but that seems a little too on the nose...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (exHjb)

109 Good post CBD. If Biden sticks to it , the Dems are going to have a slogan "Joe's so crazy the rest of the world should be scared . USA #1"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (aLzBS)

110 Gold is up 48.00 at 2429/oz. Oh my.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (/U5Yz)

111 whig

If massive unrest starts under the post election, pre- inauguration president, what does the military do?

The officers and senior enlisted are all compromised.
They will do nothing. But the bulk of the enlisted, and maybe a combat-vetted 0-6 or two can make the difference in the National Guard.

Then there is the state guard, and the police that want payback for Soros prosecutors. Finally, the citizens. Open season means unrest ends.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 11, 2024 11:24 AM (u82oZ)

112 One other thing to keep in mind - no individual Dem pol really matters. The current argument as to whether Biden, Harris, Newsom or someone else would be the best standard bearer for the Dems but they will all govern exactly the same.

But Trump? He matters as an individual. There are a couple of guys that could maybe perform the same role but I suspect when the Dems get desperate enough they'll go down the assassinate route - why do you think they keep talking about pulling his Secret Service protection?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:24 AM (oZhjI)

113 As Trump rises in the polls, the easy cheat becomes mathematically impossible. The obvious one is left but highly subject to failure due to differences in state's legal systems. Voter turnout in excess of registered population is prima facie proof of fraud in the caselaw of even blue states.

And yet, progress continues to be made.
https://tinyurl.com/38kn2jks

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)

114 I just saw Shelly Duvall died. Maybe late to the party.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:25 AM (ClBAL)

115 As long as you remember that bitcoin is NOT an investment, you're good.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

I'll never make that mistake again.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:25 AM (RhGG0)

116 Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (exHjb

Probably true, but "Lil Sport" is in keeping with Cruella de Jille saying ,You answered all the questions.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (4WIyI)

117 Voter turnout in excess of registered population is prima facie proof of fraud in the caselaw of even blue states.

This has been pointed out several times - there are a number of blue shitholes that have more "voters" then adult citizens. And when asked about it the Census people stood by their numbers and of course the GOPe did nothing...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (oZhjI)

118 > ndeed. there is, in fact, a gen-you-wine bigboy event going on just at the moment. 4014 is on its way to california.
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I saw a short video from the engine's cab the other day. Pretty cool.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)

119 113 And yet, progress continues to be made.
https://tinyurl.com/38kn2jks
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)

======

GA is cleaning its election stables essentially despite its Republican governor and SoS.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

120 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer

iirc, Oppenheimer.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (ibKjr)

121 Unmanned drop boxes have been reinstated in Wisconsin, no?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (U2stO)

122 I just saw Shelly Duvall died. Maybe late to the party.
Posted by: Piper

75. Diabetes complications.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (v6JzV)

123 These pressers always make me feel real loose
Like a long neck goose, Jack!!!

Posted by: Joey "Big Bopper" Biden at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (5h/8D)

124 From Zerohedge:

"Elon Musk announced on Thursday that social media platform X will sue 'perpetrators and collaborators' who have colluded to control online speech"

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (exHjb)

125 Gold is up 48.00 at 2429/oz. Oh my.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (/U5Yz)

Wish I would have invested in gold.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (RhGG0)

126
I'll never make that mistake again.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:25 AM (RhGG0)

LOL.

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

127 117 This has been pointed out several times - there are a number of blue shitholes that have more "voters" then adult citizens. And when asked about it the Census people stood by their numbers and of course the GOPe did nothing...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM (oZhjI)

=======

I suspect the census numbers are overstated as well.

So, Philly? 105% turnout? Probably closer to 150% turnout.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO)

128 Exactly. Also, expectations weren't set too high when it was called a "big boy" conference". It sounds like something some parents refer to when their kid is through potty training and now he's a big boy who can use the toilet all by himself. Uggh
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Similar to the "You answered every question!!" shouted by the enabler.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (ibKjr)

129 96 89 Truth and Reconciliation Committee model used in South Africa and former E. European Commie states. In return for immunity from prosecution, the guilty had to publicly admit what they did.

Sometimes justice is best left to the Lord because otherwise, desperate criminals figure like mass murderers--after the first one, the rest of the crimes are free.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (mIs2x)

========

Our elite would take the deal and then say "I don't recall" during questioning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
----
Doesn't work that way. You've got to have your confession ready. You have already been accused and put on the list for a particular misdeed(s).

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti criminali at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (qfLjt)

130 I just saw Shelly Duvall died. Maybe late to the party.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:25 AM (ClBAL)

Where's Johnny?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

131 I don't see the issue. Iran and Russia routinely have 100% voter turnout.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (U2stO)

132 I saw the Best Dildo Rants open for Ninho de Vespas at La Bohème in 2016.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (6e56N)

133 Unmanned drop boxes have been reinstated in Wisconsin, no?

I hope that a goodly number of them will be monitored with video cameras, and that this effort will be publicized, without specifying which ones are the target. Anyone contemplating fraud needs to worry that their crime is being recorded.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (xCA6C)

134 Beforehand advice from Jill

"Now, don't have a tantrum up there, Joe. If you do a good job, you'll get your favorite ice cream flavor."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (4WIyI)

135 Wish I would have invested in gold.
Posted by: Doof

Not a good idea for a lunchtime investment.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)

136 Voter turnout in excess of registered population is prima facie proof of fraud in the caselaw of even blue states.

This has been pointed out several times - there are a number of blue shitholes that have more "voters" then adult citizens. And when asked about it the Census people stood by their numbers and of course the GOPe did nothing...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2024 11:26 AM

Pssst.....Texas and other states sued multiple blue states for violating their own election laws in 2020 but SCOTUS said nah bro, no standing. Not much anything can do about vote fraud if it is a blue state.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (QNSds)

137 Joe's advantage is that if he just hangs tough, they will get back into line.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:19 AM (uxCna)

Democrat leaders have it pretty easy, since their party is known for goose-stepping to whatever beat the leaders order.

Republican leaders struggle because getting their party to do anything is like herding cats.

Posted by: pookysgirl thought that Mythbusters episode was hilarious at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (3kDuW)

138
I just saw Shelly Duvall died. Maybe late to the party.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:25 AM

On July 11, 2024, Duvall died in her sleep of complications of diabetes at her home in Blanco, Texas aged 75

Paging Sonia Sotomayor, age 70.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (RKVpM)

139 These pressers always make me feel real loose
Like a long neck goose, Jack!!!
Posted by: Joey "Big Bopper" Biden at July 11, 2024

***
"Pick you up at eight, and don't be late???
You gotta be jokin', woman.
I thought you might pick *me* up at eight and don't be late!"

Posted by: Jerry Lee Biden at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (J2vNu)

140 Shelly Duval is no relation to Robert, correct?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (v6JzV)

141 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 9-3 - SLC-4E - Vandenberg Space Force Base, CA - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: July 11 (PDT)
New T-Zero: Liftoff is targeted for 7:39 p.m. PDT, (02:39 UTC, 04:39 CEST - July 12), with backup opportunities available until 11:37 p.m. PDT.

https://www.youtube.com/live/6br6_Q6qjWU

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti criminali zozzi at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (qfLjt)

142 75. Diabetes complications.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Told ya.

Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (/U5Yz)

143 The Democratic establishment really wants to have an impeachment inquiry in the middle of a Presidential election?

Joe's advantage is that if he just hangs tough, they will get back into line.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

That is my read of it. Impeachment would bring out all sorts of dirty laundry smearing the Dems and probably result in a Dem bloodbath down ticket, like Nixon's resignation due to Watergate did in 74.

Attacks the cloud people where it hurts--their conception of themselves as 'good people'.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)

144 I don't see the issue. Iran and Russia routinely have 100% voter turnout.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (U2stO)

---------------

Pikers! They're no Philadelphia or North Korea boasting 120% turnout ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (6e56N)

145 35 Exactly. Also, expectations weren't set too high when it was called a "big boy" conference"
It sounds like something some parents refer to when their kid is through potty training and now he's a big boy who can use the toilet all by himself. Uggh
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:11 AM (4WIyI)

Upon hearing about the "big boy" conference, I immediately recalled the old jingle for Huggies Pull-Ups. "Mommy, wow! I'm a big kid now."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (DTX3h)

146 You know who's worse than FJB?

https://t.ly/uZ7IO

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (mVt4K)

147 Duvall seems to have been too skinny to have Type II Diabetes. So maybe it was Type I.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (v6JzV)

148
Not a good idea for a lunchtime investment.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)

Unless you're drinking Goldschläger.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)

149 My mother had to give up her dream of my becoming President the day I first went potty in the toilet all by myself.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (3z0VN)

150 I'll never make that mistake again.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024

***
Mistake? We'll never have that recipe again!

Posted by: Richard Harris & Donna Summer at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (J2vNu)

151 Shelly Duval is no relation to Robert, correct?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:29 AM (v6JzV)

Sort of. Her father was named Robert, but it ain't The Robert. Saw that when reading about her just now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 11, 2024 11:31 AM (xPJvm)

152 31 Who in the hell coined the phrase "Big Boy Event?"
Union Pacific RR?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:10 AM (/U5Yz)

A worker at American Locomotive Company (ALCO) scrawled "Big Boy" across the smoke box door of one of the UP 4-8-8-4 simple articulated locomotives as it was being built.

Posted by: Karen Carpenter ,1978 at July 11, 2024 11:31 AM (CUTlH)

153 141 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 9-3 - SLC-4E - Vandenberg Space Force Base, CA - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: July 11 (PDT)
New T-Zero: Liftoff is targeted for 7:39 p.m. PDT, (02:39 UTC, 04:39 CEST - July 12), with backup opportunities available until 11:37 p.m. PDT.

hmm. before sundown. prolly won't see much in my neck of the lack-of-woods.

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2024 11:31 AM (oY6Yp)

154 Republican leaders struggle because getting their party to do anything is like herding cats.
Posted by: pookysgirl

No. It is because most of the officeholders, party officials, and donors are to the left of the base voters and the GOPe leaders do not want the base to have nice things. They want them to shut up and allow the looting of America to continue.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:31 AM (mIs2x)

155 Wish I would have invested in gold.
Posted by: Doof

Not a good idea for a lunchtime investment.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)

My lunch investment is now in the early stages of being a digestment.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:32 AM (RhGG0)

156 The time of the BB presser is 6:45 Eastern, right?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:32 AM (J2vNu)

157 REDRUM REDRUM

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:32 AM (qZEuM)

158 Sorry I'm late
Lyft guy wouldn't take rubles

The Democrat Party has one agenda
The Democrat Party

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:32 AM (/7KEl)

159 Maybe Ace will have a live thread (I almost typed "vile," but actually, considering the subject matter, there's not much difference) of the BB presser.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:33 AM (J2vNu)

160 I want many years positive the idea of investing in US forever stamps. Just before posting this, I looked up the price and it is shocking, but really not shocking. I said on this site many years ago by US stamps the forever stamps because they only go up in price. Never do they go down. I don’t know the legality of buying stamps and then selling them to someone else, though I can’t think of why that would not be legal. To me is probably one of the few investments where you are sure the price of the item will go up over time.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:33 AM (Fy2d7)

161 I'll never make that mistake again.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024

Seems as though I asked for it!!
https://youtu.be/zVy-zkB3ESg

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (RhGG0)

162 It can be lunch time now

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (qqpmb)

163 Let's hope Joey does just enough at the press conference to fend off the Dem horde.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (G0vdT)

164 >Maybe Ace will have a live thread (I almost typed "vile," but actually, considering the subject matter, there's not much difference) of the BB presser.
----

any thread open at the time will serve as such

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (/7KEl)

165 And I have sympathy for people who have the awful experience of having their loved one "slip away" mentally and be unpredictable and sometimes violent because of dementia. But those people had to often struggle with care emotionally, physically and financially and their loved ones were decent people. Jill and Biden and other Dems are doing this for the power and the money when they have many financial resources to get him off the stage completely, aside from the fact that "The Lorx himself will have to come down tell me to get out of the race." The Lord is not here to fulfill your commands, Joe. It's hubris.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (4WIyI)

166 Maybe Ace will have a live thread (I almost typed "vile," but actually, considering the subject matter, there's not much difference) of the BB presser.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:33 AM (J2vNu)

Aren't all threads 'live' threads?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

167 You can tell I’m not a maker and player as I just told that to everyone. But that’s what I said years ago and figured that out in my dimwitted brain ages ago. Even with fine whiskey, you can’t be assured the price will go up but US stamps that’s a flat out guarantee.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (Fy2d7)

168 My great Uncle delivered Big Boy to Tinian Island. baseball player from Cleveland. He was eaten by sharks. My word as a Biden!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (wGerL)

169 It can be lunch time now
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (qqpmb)

*buuuurp*

Ummm...

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (RhGG0)

170 Gold is an excellent hedge against capital gains. Btw, what's the dividend (annual yield) on gold?

Otoh, how are Nividia (NVDA) & Broadcom (AVGO) doing? Or the S&P itself, for that matter.

Posted by: mnw at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (NLIak)

171 REDRUM REDRUM
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024

***
That movie is 44 years old, so Shelly was about 31 when it premiered.

"I consider I handed Stanley Kubrick a live hand grenade . . . and he heroically threw his body on top of it."
( -- Stephen King, 1983)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

172 Yes, I’m sure some GenZ type will say well. I’ll be a time when we decide not to use mail at all. That is like the guy who told me 30 years ago, not to invest in Berkshire Hathaway because Warren Buffett is going to pass away any moment.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:36 AM (Fy2d7)

173 163 Let's hope Joey does just enough at the press conference to fend off the Dem horde.
Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:34 AM (G0vdT)

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Remember, the inner circle thought Biden did fine during the Stephanopoulos interview. They thought that should be enough. They settled in.

And the calls didn't die down. It just ended up extending the fight while the Biden inner circle dug in their heels more.

Joe could reach into his pants, pull out a turd, and rub his face with it, and Jill would say that he did fine. There's no low he can meet to convince Jill to give up the presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

174 I have 300 ounces of silver. Should I sell? A Big Boy would know.

Posted by: Li'l Stinker at July 11, 2024 11:36 AM (V5BDR)

175 Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 11, 2024 11:30 AM (DTX3h)

Yep. I thought of that too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:36 AM (4WIyI)

176
Aren't all threads 'live' threads?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024

***
Well, yes. I meant he'd blog about the press conference as it was happening, like we did with the June 27 ~~debacle~~ debate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (J2vNu)

177
"I consider I handed Stanley Kubrick a live hand grenade . . . and he heroically threw his body on top of it."
( -- Stephen King, 1983)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

Way to overvalue yourself, dickwad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

178 When is the golf match?

Posted by: Caddy Shack at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (9lmRa)

179 Well, yes. I meant he'd blog about the press conference as it was happening, like we did with the June 27 debacle debate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (J2vNu)

Hehehe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

180 The Shining is yet another movie that I've never seen all the way through.

Can't make it past the creepy twin girls.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (v6JzV)

181 Commenting present
Posted by: Skip

But are you accounted for?
Posted by: Tonypete

Accounted for is an explanation for why one is not present so present supersedes accounted for.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

True enough but then shouldn't it be "All present or accounted for"?

That always bothered me.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (ibKjr)

182 Old public service announcement :it's ten o'clock, do you know your children are?
New public service announcement: its 6:30pm do you know where the president's brain is?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (aLzBS)

183 . . . Joe could reach into his pants, pull out a turd, and rub his face with it, and Jill would say that he did fine. There's no low he can meet to convince Jill to give up the presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024

***
Joe keeling over and going into a coma might be a convincer. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

184 Pssst.....Texas and other states sued multiple blue states for violating their own election laws in 2020 but SCOTUS said nah bro, no standing. Not much anything can do about vote fraud if it is a blue state.
Posted by: Mister Scott

I can discuss original jurisdiction for you but it was always a legal reach because quite literally due to precedent. Scotus involvement in Florida in 2000 was in one state. Here was a case involving multiple states and the Roberts Court, never a brave one, blinked.

Time was what the Trump legal campaign lacked and wild charges by the likes of Sidney Powell and a clueless Rudy meant that the best legal challenge avenues went nowhere with this group. Instead, the Trump legal campaign should have focused on specific states like GA, WS, and AZ and trying to prove fraud using state laws and elevating to specific federal district courts as did the GWB campaign did in Florida 2000.

For whatever reason, the GOP legal eagles types (highlighted by the Powerline boys lawyer types), simply do not want to support someone they view as icky. Trump would be better served by blue collar lawyers than Ivy leaguers.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (mIs2x)

185 It's a shame the van didn't finish King off 20+ years ago. What an asshole.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (qZEuM)

186 So word around the server farm is, Joe is going to do the Big Boy presser outside?

that can't be true
seriously, he's an old man, he could suffer

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (/7KEl)

187 Wash DC hi temp today 91F

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (/7KEl)

188 Shelly Duval was perfect for Olive Oyl.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (JCLJi)

189 Joe's having a big boy presser today.

Will he be wearing his OshKosh B'gosh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

190 170, don’t cherry pick. Broadcom was just another stock for decades. It certainly wasn’t any better than the NASDAQ. I still say people should read stocks for the long run by Jeremy Siegel. For most of the last century, the best performing stock by far, including all text stocks was Philip Morris the cigarette maker. Tootsie roll and Heinz were in the top 5.

In the 1970s, they created a list of the top tech stocks and they called them the nifty 50. By the year, 2000 most of those stocks had gone bust.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Fy2d7)

191 110 Gold is up 48.00 at 2429/oz. Oh my.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (/U5Yz)

I sell at $5000. 60 onces my dad bought at $265 in 1999.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (xcIvR)

192 177 Way to overvalue yourself, dickwad.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

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I'm convinced that King has no idea why his books work. I like his writing, but he just literally has no clue how and why they work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

193 Big Boy presser delayed til 630
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:15 AM (U8kCF)
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Interesting. I had read that the presser came right after all day meetings. Maybe Biden will need a nap.
Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (G0vdT)

He'll nap during the meetings.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (aD39U)

194 Shining is yet another movie that I've never seen all the way through.

Can't make it past the creepy twin girls.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I never made it past 20 minutes before getting really bored and wandering off.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (4XwPj)

195 When is the golf match?

Posted by: Caddy Shack at July 11, 2024 11:37 AM (9lmRa)

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What's The Bookies' opening line on whether Hunter eats the booger he just pulled out of his nose 9n live National TV?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (6e56N)

196 Shelly Duval was perfect for Olive Oyl.
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (JCLJi)

And props to her for being such a physically unattractive woman and making a career in the plastic jungle of fake human hollywood.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

197 180 The Shining is yet another movie that I've never seen all the way through.

Can't make it past the creepy twin girls.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (v6JzV)

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I saw it for the first time when I was about 12.

Well, only partially saw.

The bath lady turning evil, decrepit hag scared me so much that I turned off the movie and walked away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)

198 110 Gold is up 48.00 at 2429/oz. Oh my.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (/U5Yz)

I sell at $5000. 60 onces my dad bought at $265 in 1999.
Posted by: Reforger

A very wise investment.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (qZEuM)

199 "Hopefully the trend away from college as the only path to success will accelerate, and the glut of baristas and part-time web designers will ease...replaced by HVAC techs and plumbers and steamfitters and heavy equipment operators.

You know...the people who are the repository of that famed American common sense!"

Let's hope, for it's a fight 4 the souls of the major unions now, too. The BAs & other higher echelon are embedded in politics - local, state & federal - & like many civil servants, can follow the paths of money & least resistance.

College enrollment is falling though debt owed is rising. Wealthier areas may not contribute towards community colleges, adult education programs. The 'good' trade schools/colleges - so difficult to get into - are also very political in their selection of students.

We have to go beyond the ridiculous deplorable labels, DEI/CRT selection processes, and so on. We've rural areas that have largely been forgotten though their children are no lesser than all others.

Teach: Like civil service, federal takeover of student lending, part of the legislation creating the Affordable Care Act, 2010, binds one to government choices, oft forever.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (NFX2v)

200 The Shining is yet another movie that I've never seen all the way through.

Can't make it past the creepy twin girls.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024

***
Personally I think the two-part TV-movie remake from 1997 w/ Rebecca De Mornay as Wendy (Shelly's role in 1980) is just as good, if not better, than Kubrick's. Steven Weber of Wings does a nice job as as Jack.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (J2vNu)

201 *ON live National TV

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Mean Tweets Great Again! at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (6e56N)

202 183 . . . Joe could reach into his pants, pull out a turd, and rub his face with it, and Jill would say that he did fine. There's no low he can meet to convince Jill to give up the presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024

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Joe keeling over and going into a coma might be a convincer. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

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I think you overestimate Jill's addiction to her husband's power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

203 >He'll nap during the meetings.

multi-tasking

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (/7KEl)

204 or underestimate

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

205 Joe's having a big boy presser today.

Will he be wearing his OshKosh B'gosh?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

With a pull-up...

"Mommy, WOW! I'm a big kid now!"
https://youtu.be/ztTHLDhmB58

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (RhGG0)

206 183 . . . Joe could reach into his pants, pull out a turd, and rub his face with it, and Jill would say that he did fine. There's no low he can meet to convince Jill to give up the presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024

To repeat a post I made yesterday, without the Presidency, Jill goes back to being a bitter washed up old woman, despised by everyone in the class she aspires too. Without Joe's protection, Hunter knows he's looking at a long stint in the Big House. Both of the them are desperate to hang onto the Presidency for their own personal reasons, so desperate that they'll burn the Democrat Party to the ground in order to do it.

(hey dems, think you made a mistake by letting these two be in charge of your future?)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

207 Will he be wearing his OshKosh B'gosh?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

"The Hulk" underroos.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (gKWVE)

208 Let's hope Joey does just enough at the press conference to fend off the Dem horde.

He's also going to do an interview with Lester Holt on Monday. I have no idea what these people are thinking.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

209 186 So word around the server farm is, Joe is going to do the Big Boy presser outside?

that can't be true
seriously, he's an old man, he could suffer
Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:38 AM (/7KEl)
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That's what I'm hearing. Going to be 90 degrees as well..after a day NATO meetings.

I'ts like they want him to fail.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM (G0vdT)

210 206 (hey dems, think you made a mistake by letting these two be in charge of your future?)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

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They'd have been better off if they'd let Bernie win the nomination in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM (GBKbO)

211 I am so hoping Joe stuffs his own foot in his mouth today

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM (qqpmb)

212 "National TV" is an out of date term now that we have Al Gore's Amazing Internet.

Posted by: Just being a nerd at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (9lmRa)

213 A HS chum just posted: "Four years again the DJIA closed at 19,173. Yesterday, it closed at 39,921 DOUBLING retirement accounts. So yes! We ARE better off than four years ago."

I can't even. It will come as no surprise to my beloved Horde that her first name is "Bambi". No fooling.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (ibKjr)

214 Wash DC hi temp today 91F

Feels like a swampy 109

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (U8kCF)

215 "I consider I handed Stanley Kubrick a live hand grenade . . . and he heroically threw his body on top of it."
( -- Stephen King, 1983)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024
*
Way to overvalue yourself, dickwad.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024

***
King was right. I was at the convention panel when he said that, and the applause was strong. Since then I've gotten to like certain things about Kubrick's work (like Eyes Wide Shut), and I may revisit his The Shining, but I was underwhelmed by it in 1980.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (J2vNu)

216 "Hopefully the trend away from college as the only path to success will accelerate, and the glut of baristas and part-time web designers will ease...replaced by HVAC techs and plumbers and steamfitters and heavy equipment operators."

Which is precisely why the progs are trying to fuck all these professions hard with regulation - at the federal level where possible, and state/local otherwise, in blue states.

AC in particular joins ICE vehicles on the list of shit they're trying to ban in the very near future.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (MCFC3)

217 211 I am so hoping Joe stuffs his own foot in his mouth today
Posted by: Skip

Just keep the senior-moments at a slow simmer. We want this guy on the ballot.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (gKWVE)

218 Gold is up 48.00 at 2429/oz. Oh my.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:23 AM (/U5Yz)

I sell at $5000. 60 onces my dad bought at $265 in 1999.
Posted by: Reforger

A very wise investment.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (qZEuM)

It's not an investment. I learned that in the last thread. Although I was a bit obtuse.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (RhGG0)

219 200 big wings fan here. I am shocked they remade the shining and to be honest I doubt it was as good. For you that movie was super scary, There was a naked woman for about a second, but that was it. In those days that was enough lol.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (Fy2d7)

220 Actually, the humidity is down from yesterday.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at July 11, 2024 11:44 AM (U8kCF)

221 Joe will challenge Lester Holt to a push up contest

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2024 11:44 AM (HJ9BW)

222 All the things Biden says he's going to do to show his fitness don't matter. It's like the old joke about eating ice cream with just a bit of fecal matter in it. It's still eating s***.

Even if Biden has a good night, people will remember the s***, in this case the debate and Stephanopoulos interview.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)

223 Both of the them are desperate to hang onto the Presidency for their own personal reasons, so desperate that they'll burn the Democrat Party and the countryto the ground in order to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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small addition, if I may

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 11, 2024 11:44 AM (iZbyp)

224 Posted by: The ARC of History!

That is my read of it. Impeachment would bring out all sorts of dirty laundry smearing the Dems and probably result in a Dem bloodbath down ticket, like Nixon's resignation due to Watergate did in 74.

Attacks the cloud people where it hurts--their conception of themselves as 'good people'.
Posted by: whig

The power of a well placed leak or a Colonel Bearclaw type whistleblower is still a potential shoe to drop if the Bidens refuse to do as expected of them. That Clooney Op-Ed might as well as been straight from the mouth of Bathhouse Barry. There is plenty of Biden clay laying around that could be molded into a political funeral urn. Somebodies or some agencies somewhere have plenty of political or bribery receipts that could bury him and if the don't quite have them, no worries, a smear campaign is well honed skill. The odds of Biden making it to the election seem slim.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 11, 2024 11:44 AM (RUmyk)

225 >He's also going to do an interview with Lester Holt on Monday. I have no idea what these people are thinking.

Posted by: Archimedes
---

they think they can save this thing
or go down in flames, trying

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (/7KEl)

226 And props to her for being such a physically unattractive woman and making a career in the plastic jungle of fake human hollywood.
Posted by: Sponge

Margaret Hamilton and Edna May Oliver paved the way!

Posted by: Homely Chicks Need Love, Too at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (V5BDR)

227 It’s not all or nothing. We need hvac techs as well as web designers. The market will settle all this on its own. If there is a glut of web designers the pay will suck and fewer people will enter the market, If there is a shortage of havoc techs the pay will be great and more people will enter the market.

And that’s already happening.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (t56FM)

228 Going to be 90 degrees as well..after a day NATO meetings.
I'ts like they want him to fail.
Posted by: WisRich

Uh oh.

Posted by: Zachary Taylor at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (gKWVE)

229 147 Duvall seems to have been too skinny to have Type II Diabetes. So maybe it was Type I.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July

She got heavy as she aged and had some significant mental health issues.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (PRqXW)

230 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (J2vNu

My son lives Stanley Kubrick films, so much so that he goes on websites on the internet to talk about him. I haven't even seen all of his films

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (4WIyI)

231 Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (qZEuM)

232 He can't just drop out of the race, he would need to resign immediately

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (HJ9BW)

233 I told you guys Trump won’t let go of the golf stuff. It is part of his entire persona. Biden couldn’t even swing a club there’s 0.0 chance he does this. Does this help Trump? No, But you have to let Trump be Trump.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (Fy2d7)

234 139 These pressers always make me feel real loose
Like a long neck goose, Jack!!!
Posted by: Joey "Big Bopper" Biden at July 11, 2024

***
"Pick you up at eight, and don't be late???
You gotta be jokin', woman.
I thought you might pick *me* up at eight and don't be late!"
Posted by: Jerry Lee Biden

If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel

Posted by: Mungo Jerry Biden at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (JCZqz)

235 Going to be 90 degrees as well..after a day NATO meetings.
I'ts like they want him to fail.
Posted by: WisRich

Our first clue was the title “Big Boy” news conference.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (PRqXW)

236 "225 >He's also going to do an interview with Lester Holt on Monday. I have no idea what these people are thinking.

Posted by: Archimedes
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they think they can save this thing
or go down in flames, trying
Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:45 AM (/7KEl)"

Hunter is literally a crackhead. Are you familiar with crackhead logic?

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (MCFC3)

237 I bought some gold, what seemed like a lot at the time, for $290. FWIW, I quit buying when it got near $1000 ("This is crazy! How high can it go?"). So, my initial "investment" is up over 700%, not too shoddy. But the thing is, at those prices you don't dare sell it. I don't tell where it is, but, it's locked up.

To people -- and there are many -- who say "If there's a crash, what are you going to do, take an ounce of gold to the store and try to buy bread?" I say, what will you do, head over there with a share of Chrysler stock? We grow some food, and stand ready to grow a lot more, and have some means of protecting it. The "gold at the store" crowd can't do that either.

I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (zdLoL)

238
That's what I'm hearing. Going to be 90 degrees as well..after a day NATO meetings.

It's like they want him to fail.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM

I'm eighty miles north of DC and it sucks outside. Heat and humidity like August already. He's gonna suck unless they stuff him in a refrigerator for an hour beforehand.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (RKVpM)

239 Bribe'em is supposed to close out the NATO summit with a news conference. Two pressers in one day?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (5MvGY)

240 Only Kubrick movie I actually like is Paths of Glory, despite that asshoe Kirk Douglas' being the star.

I can tolerate Dr. Strangelove.

The rest of it -- no thanks.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (v6JzV)

241 231,heh

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (Fy2d7)

242 >Feels like a swampy 109

Posted by: dagny, first of her name

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oh, I was born n raised in the DC burbs- I know that weather-
that 91F will also have 90% humidity

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (/7KEl)

243 Agree. Much closer to the book.

"Personally I think the two-part TV-movie remake from 1997 w/ Rebecca De Mornay as Wendy (Shelly's role in 1980) is just as good, if not better, than Kubrick's. Steven Weber of Wings does a nice job as as Jack.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:40 AM (J2vNu)"

Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (zOD0w)

244 big wings fan here...

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (Fy2d7)

Underrated show. Recently started rewatching it. Bought the whole series on DVD for $20. Good old school comedy that wasn't trying to change the world with social commentary.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (RhGG0)

245 230 - Meant "loves" not "lives".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (4WIyI)

246 220 Actually, the humidity is down from yesterday.

Sure, Jan.

Posted by: He's 81 and 3/4! at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (9lmRa)

247 Only so many blue collar jobs out there unless we start actually building things in this country again

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (NGHTx)

248 239 Bribe'em is supposed to close out the NATO summit with a news conference. Two pressers in one day?
Posted by: Ben Had at July

It’s almost like they really do want God to sort this out….

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (PRqXW)

249 232 He can't just drop out of the race, he would need to resign immediately
Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (HJ9BW)

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Politically? Maybe. "I have decided that I can't make another four years, but I will govern with all the intelligence I can offer for the next 6 months." That's really all that needs to be said.

Legally? Constitutionally? Not at all.

"Need" is not the right word at all. "Should" is better, but "should" and government don't go well together.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

250 Biden shits diapers at big boy event. News at 11:00.... or maybe not.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (17s+e)

251 LOL!!!

I love it. Doof, I love ya man, but let it go. It’s OK to be wrong. Everybody learns at their own pace

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (UTD5a)

252 I'm convinced that King has no idea why his books work. I like his writing, but he just literally has no clue how and why they work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024

***
As long as they work, that's the important thing. Focusing too much on *why* something works, I think, leads to the centipede syndrome, i.e., "He lay distracted in the ditch, considering how to run."

King has described his subconscious as "that guy who really runs the writing factory around here." His later works are not always as entertaining, and he's fallen victim to Trump Hate, but when he was on his game in the '70s and '80s, he produced some great stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)

253 And props to her for being such a physically unattractive woman and making a career in the plastic jungle of fake human hollywood.
Posted by: Sponge

Margaret Hamilton and Edna May Oliver paved the way!
Posted by: Homely Chicks Need Love, Too

Marie Dressler

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (v6JzV)

254 197 The bath lady turning evil, decrepit hag scared me so much that I turned off the movie and walked away.

There's at least one man who would bang her.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (lXoJ5)

255 Aww look at the big boy doing his precious news conference. Atta boy Joe. After, we’ll get a treat. Joe’s favorite… ice cream!!! Maybe we can invite some friends over as well and have a party for the big boy accomplishment.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (t56FM)

256 If there is a shortage of havoc techs the pay will be great

My kids are in havoc tech. They do all right. Active duty, though.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (zdLoL)

257 The 1997 was only watchable for de Mornay at peak MILFdom. Otherwise it was a boring waste of time, clearly done just so Stephen King could point to his book on a screen. (Kubrick's vision being a parody of the book, therefore better.)

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (gKWVE)

258 We Should do most overrated directors.

My one connection to full metal jacket was that I was in basic training when full metal jacket came out. My drill sergeant got us together and told us about the movie and they quote said “ Full metal jacket makes platoon a pussy movie”. Sorry if I broke a rule there I never do that. But I never forgot that quote because it was legit and funny. But in someways, it’s not funny to have your drill sergeant get cranked up over full metal jacket lol

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (Fy2d7)

259 Movie thread...

Posted by: Inevitably at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (9lmRa)

260 Every Dem who votes against the SAVE Act is a traitor.
No foreigner has the right to determine how I am governed. Not a one.
This is a line in my sand.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (W/lyH)

261 The power of a well placed leak or a Colonel Bearclaw type whistleblower is still a potential shoe to drop if the Bidens refuse to do as expected of them. That Clooney Op-Ed might as well as been straight from the mouth of Bathhouse Barry. There is plenty of Biden clay laying around that could be molded into a political funeral urn. Somebodies or some agencies somewhere have plenty of political or bribery receipts that could bury him and if the don't quite have them, no worries, a smear campaign is well honed skill. The odds of Biden making it to the election seem slim.
Posted by: Altaria Poilgram
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We really do not know the odds because this is all happening behind closed doors (sort of like an election for a pope).

Biden did not survive 50 years in DC (like that other bloody reprobate Mitch McConnell) by being a patsy. So, for every smear and leaks that the Dems use, Biden and his faction know that the other Dems are doing bad shit too and can leak that. Obama and secret gay affairs plus his illegality in spying on Trump, Pelosi and her naked corruption of insider trading plus her deviant hubbie plus commandeering the US military, Clooney's wife as a beard, etc. etc.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:49 AM (mIs2x)

262 > big wings fan here...

I saw this and thought hockey

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (/7KEl)

263 To people -- and there are many -- who say "If there's a crash, what are you going to do, take an ounce of gold to the store and try to buy bread?" I say, what will you do, head over there with a share of Chrysler stock? We grow some food, and stand ready to grow a lot more, and have some means of protecting it. The "gold at the store" crowd can't do that either.

I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.
===

Turn lead into gold... or food. or whatever with this one easy simple trick.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (17s+e)

264 216. AC in particular joins ICE vehicles on the list of shit they're trying to ban in the very near future.
Posted by: somedood

>Federal Register, comment while the comment period for the proposed regulation is open. It does make a difference.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (NFX2v)

265 252 As long as they work, that's the important thing. Focusing too much on *why* something works, I think, leads to the centipede syndrome, i.e., "He lay distracted in the ditch, considering how to run."

King has described his subconscious as "that guy who really runs the writing factory around here." His later works are not always as entertaining, and he's fallen victim to Trump Hate, but when he was on his game in the '70s and '80s, he produced some great stuff.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)

========

I don't disagree, but King complaining about changes to his books when it comes to adaptations is where the accusation lies. If he doesn't know how they work, then he honestly is not any sort of authority on why some changes are good and some are bad.

How can he know what's good about a book he doesn't even remember writing because he was so doped up like Cujo?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (GBKbO)

266 Agree. Much closer to the book.

"Personally I think the two-part TV-movie remake from 1997 w/ Rebecca De Mornay as Wendy (Shelly's role in 1980) is just as good, if not better, than Kubrick's. Steven Weber of Wings does a nice job as as Jack.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 "
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 11, 2024

***
It emphasizes Jack's alcoholism, which is how the hotel gets hold of him, and you wind up feeling closer to the characters than you did to Shelly's and Nicholson's.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (J2vNu)

267 The optics of Biden “stepping down” due to brain rot, yet staying CINC for 6 months is a non starter.

Biden has to be formally nominated before anything can happen, strangely enough is what it sounds like for technical reasons.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (UTD5a)

268 And yes, and including Vietnam vets like my own father, they slide out despised Platoon.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (Fy2d7)

269 They have until 2 - 3:30 to get this Big Bky Pants press conference in before Sundowner gets loopy?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (qqpmb)

270 Scariest book/movie of Kings for me is Pet Cemetary

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (IyPmt)

271 97 So the question in that case becomes do the elite roll the dice for massive civil unrest that just might get out of control or settle sullenly and wait Trump out.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:17 AM (mIs2x)

thing is they don't really have the ability to create "massive" unrest. They can only start shit in the same old cities - Portland, Seattle, Atlanta, Chicago. Big deal. Burn them down, who cares.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (wyMQY)

272 My one connection to full metal jacket was that I was in basic training when full metal jacket came out. My drill sergeant got us together and told us about the movie and they quote said “ Full metal jacket makes platoon a pussy movie”. Sorry if I broke a rule there I never do that. But I never forgot that quote because it was legit and funny. But in someways, it’s not funny to have your drill sergeant get cranked up over full metal jacket lol
Posted by: Quint

Which one was it that had Private Pyle?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (v6JzV)

273
If there is a shortage of havoc techs the pay will be great

I wish I had had a guidance counselor who steered me into a career in havoc.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 11:51 AM (RKVpM)

274
If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel
Posted by: Mungo Jerry Biden at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (JCZqz)]

This song is in my rotation.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

275 266, until this moment, I didn’t know the remake existed. I will try to check it out if it’s possible.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:51 AM (Fy2d7)

276 We Should do most overrated directors.

given his recent output, Ridley Scott.
"Gladiator 2" won't change that

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2024 11:51 AM (NGHTx)

277 "To people -- and there are many -- who say "If there's a crash, what are you going to do, take an ounce of gold to the store and try to buy bread?" I say, what will you do, head over there with a share of Chrysler stock? We grow some food, and stand ready to grow a lot more, and have some means of protecting it. The "gold at the store" crowd can't do that either.

I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (zdLoL)"

Gold isn't for buying bread at the corner store. It's for fucking off to some other AO that isn't the Thunderdome. And if the whole world is on fire, that's what the land/lead parts of your portfolio are for.

We have enough of the shiny stuff stashed to hop on a plane to almost anywhere in the world and be sheltered and fed for at least a year. Most people would rather blow that on a boat or hookers or something.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:51 AM (MCFC3)

278 But in someways, it’s not funny to have your drill sergeant get cranked up over full metal jacket lol

The Marines actually wanted to use the second half of Full Metal Jacket as a training aid for teaching urban warfare.

Kubrick said no.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)

279 74 -- U.P.'s HQ is here in Omaha. Every year, they bring 4014 to Omaha and park it right across the street from the College World Series stadium. Sadly, Himself and I have moved several miles south of where we used to live. It was really impressive when 4014 announced its arrival and departure. That whistle damn near shook the foundations of every house in the neighborhood. You couldn't mistake it for any other engine.

Neither one is in operation anymore, but U.P. has both a Big Boy and a Centennial engine parked on a bluff overlooking I-80. I remember the day U.P. moved both engines from their old location to the new one. One of them got stuck trying to make a 45 degree turn. They worked all night to get it headed in the right direction. My understanding is that it cost John Kenefick over $1m to get those engines up on that bluff.

Posted by: Livia Drusilla at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (ZuPhL)

280 247 Only so many blue collar jobs out there unless we start actually building things in this country again
Posted by: brak at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (NGHTx)

We do build things. A ton of things. Don’t confuse manufacturing with construction.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (t56FM)

281 I've been wondering why we haven't heard anything from top military staff that interact with Biden and their concerns about his dementia. I know they cannot openly criticize the president but you would think at a least few may have whispered something to a non-Dem journalist or congressional leaders. Decorum and tradition never stopped the stories about Trump being leaked but not one I can think of about dementia Joe. Shouldn't their number one priority be the safety of US? Are they all completely on-board and/or terrified of the Dems?

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (GUOwU)

282 We really do not know the odds because this is all happening behind closed doors (sort of like an election for a pope).

Yup, we're seeing only 1% of the turmoil. We won't know what's happening until the history books are written, and maybe not even then.

I expect Biden is being subtly told to leave or bad things happen. If he then does leave, the blackmailers will praise his statesmanship to the skies.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (xCA6C)

283 262 > big wings fan here...

I saw this and thought hockey

There was also a show on A&E or something called Wings that was about warplanes. About the same time as the sitcom, IIRC.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (1Idb6)

284 This might be the strategy for the outside press conference.

It's not going to be the "big boy" Presser they promised. They will tie in with NATO so there is another particpant.

The press will be seated in the blazing sun and hour before start time.

Joe will do his usual two predetermined questions from predetermined reporters and then leave.

Press will be so tired from cooking in the sun and humidity, they will barely will put up any resistance to being setup...again.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:53 AM (G0vdT)

285 254 197 The bath lady turning evil, decrepit hag scared me so much that I turned off the movie and walked away.

There's at least one man who would bang her.
Posted by: NR Pax

She looked great to me!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 11, 2024 11:53 AM (JCZqz)

286 If there’s a crash everything crashes. Gold, stocks, real estate, you name it. All assets.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:53 AM (t56FM)

287 Platoon is a garbage movie and I am glad Tropic Thunder made fun of it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2024 11:53 AM (cf/0E)

288 Of course the golf stuff helps Trump. It perpetuates the image that he's brash, petty, egotistical. Not to mention how it makes Joe look. Trump is just twisting the knife, which he loves to do, and our enemies deserve every single crank and more.

Brash ego Trump crowds out the image of sadsack loser convicted felon Trump they desperately want to tar him with.

As long as he stays the former in people's minds, they can accept voting for him.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:53 AM (U2stO)

289 We do build things. A ton of things. Don’t confuse manufacturing with construction.

things get bad enough construction tapers off, but people still need to buy goods

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (NGHTx)

290
Underrated show. Recently started rewatching it. Bought the whole series on DVD for $20. Good old school comedy that wasn't trying to change the world with social commentary.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:47 AM (RhGG0)

And Crystal Bernard.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

291 "264 216. AC in particular joins ICE vehicles on the list of shit they're trying to ban in the very near future.
Posted by: somedood

>Federal Register, comment while the comment period for the proposed regulation is open. It does make a difference.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 11:50 AM (NFX2v)"

Sure, if the feds actually followed the law and courts held them to it, and they aren't also hanging on every lever available to try and price it out of existence.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (MCFC3)

292 George Santos Calls Out 'Closeted Homos' on Capitol Hill

https://tinyurl.com/yzjkneca

Sodomite Nation

Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (/U5Yz)

293 The Marines actually wanted to use the second half of Full Metal Jacket as a training aid for teaching urban warfare.
Kubrick said no.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Fall out, men! You are now officially off duty *wink*. We can watch Full Metal Jacket in the mess hall. We expect every recruit to be well fed and rested in our Corps. When "off duty".

Posted by: the drill instructor at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (gKWVE)

294 272, lol, I told the story here before, but we actually did have a private Pyle in our platoon. He was a jag corps Guy and didn’t even have to go through basic training, but he chose to do it. He was much older than us and really out of shape and let’s just say he chose poorly. I do respect the effort big time.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Fy2d7)

295 King has described his subconscious as "that guy who really runs the writing factory around here." His later works are not always as entertaining, and he's fallen victim to Trump Hate, but when he was on his game in the '70s and '80s, he produced some great stuff.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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I find King's works as depraved, nihilistic, and nasty stories about equally compromised people, perhaps. Then again, I am a Christian non deviant and happy despite my ailments which King truly hates.

But as always, tastes differ and change over time and predicting whether someone will be read one century from now is a mug's game.

We still read Edgar Allan Poe but whether King gets to that status, we will be dead and composted by then. So no need to really argue or analyze it because it is unknowable how the future folks will treat King's works.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (mIs2x)

296 It also gives off a powerful image that Trump is unfazed by all the stuff they put him through. Which frustrates them *and* shows the world he is consistent, predictable and steady.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (U2stO)

297 big wings fan here. I am shocked they remade the shining and to be honest I doubt it was as good. For you that movie was super scary, There was a naked woman for about a second, but that was it. In those days that was enough lol.
Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024

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Kubrick's "elevator full of blood"? Not scary.

The 1997 version was filmed right there in the Stanley Hotel, the place where King and his wife stayed on vacation after Carrie became a hit, and the hotel inspired the novel. At the time, a local Denver station ran a contest: The winners got to spend the night in the hotel, and watch part two of the mini-series right there in the lounge where scenes were filmed. That must have been terrific.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (J2vNu)

298 Lesse: Wings, the sitcom: 1990-1997

Wings (originally Great Planes) aired on Discovery Channel (not A&E, as I had thought!) from 1988 through at least the 90's. It also had spinoffs, so you know, whatever.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (1Idb6)

299 The way this train is going. No way Sundowner makes it past mid August convention

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (qqpmb)

300 Playing "Adagio for Strings" might have been Oscar-bait in the 80s, but it has always been a hack move.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (cf/0E)

301 If Full Metal Jacket is Kubrick, then I have to amend my above dismissal of his movies. The boot camp segment is fantastic.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (v6JzV)

302 LOL!!!

I love it. Doof, I love ya man, but let it go. It’s OK to be wrong. Everybody learns at their own pace
Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2024 11:48 AM (UTD5a)

Ironic comment

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (RhGG0)

303 216. Again. AC in particular joins ICE vehicles on the list of shit they're trying to ban in the very near future.
Posted by: somedood

BTW, OSHA has no jurisdiction for over-the-road vehicles. (See Department of Transportation for Petey is hiding, as usual.)

No, no one is trying to ban AC in vehicles via proposed OSHA statue though it's a hideous piece of crap.

Federal employee safety and health complaints go to Federal agencies, not OSHA. Jurisdiction, depends, regardless of what idiot stuff comes from the AFGE, etc.

Yeah, I know.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (NFX2v)

304 292 George Santos Calls Out 'Closeted Homos' on Capitol Hill

A vile calumny and slur. I challenge you to a wrestling match - pick the time and place.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at July 11, 2024 11:56 AM (gKWVE)

305 "281 I've been wondering why we haven't heard anything from top military staff that interact with Biden and their concerns about his dementia. I know they cannot openly criticize the president but you would think at a least few may have whispered something to a non-Dem journalist or congressional leaders. Decorum and tradition never stopped the stories about Trump being leaked but not one I can think of about dementia Joe. Shouldn't their number one priority be the safety of US? Are they all completely on-board and/or terrified of the Dems?
Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2024 11:52 AM (GUOwU)"

The DoD under Trump literally engaged in combat operations in foreign nations against direct CINC orders. Yes, they are terrified of the Dems because they know the Dems will actually throw the book at them. The GOP frauds won't.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:56 AM (MCFC3)

306 And Crystal Bernard.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

With 90s hair!!!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:56 AM (RhGG0)

307 Marie Dressler was the biggest female box office draw 1930-32. Won an Oscar, too. She was pretty awesome. Garbo was the only female star as big as her in those years. Was in Dinner At Eight, and passed before it's release.

Posted by: Tilly's Punctured Romance at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (V5BDR)

308 Trump’s best move is staying silent. Don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s self destructing. But that’s an impossible ask of Trump.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (t56FM)

309 And Crystal Bernard.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

With 90s hair!!!
Posted by: Doof

Yeah, her hair was almost as long as she was tall.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (v6JzV)

310 I don't disagree, but King complaining about changes to his books when it comes to adaptations is where the accusation lies. If he doesn't know how they work, then he honestly is not any sort of authority on why some changes are good and some are bad.

People like what they like. The author's opinion on what was good and what should or shouldn't be changed is just, like, his opinion, man.

As long as the checks clear, you think he'd be happy.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (1Idb6)

311 "303 216. Again. AC in particular joins ICE vehicles on the list of shit they're trying to ban in the very near future.
Posted by: somedood

BTW, OSHA has no jurisdiction for over-the-road vehicles. (See Department of Transportation for Petey is hiding, as usual.)

No, no one is trying to ban AC in vehicles via proposed OSHA statue though it's a hideous piece of crap.

Federal employee safety and health complaints go to Federal agencies, not OSHA. Jurisdiction, depends, regardless of what idiot stuff comes from the AFGE, etc.

Yeah, I know.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 11:55 AM (NFX2v)"

I'm not talking about vehicles specifically, I'm talking about residential. There is all kinds of fuckery afoot with refrigerant gases across the board.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (MCFC3)

312 We really do not know the odds because this is all happening behind closed doors (sort of like an election for a pope).

Biden did not survive 50 years in DC (like that other bloody reprobate Mitch McConnell) by being a patsy. So, for every smear and leaks that the Dems use, Biden and his faction know that the other Dems are doing bad shit too and can leak that. Obama and secret gay affairs plus his illegality in spying on Trump, Pelosi and her naked corruption of insider trading plus her deviant hubbie plus commandeering the US military, Clooney's wife as a beard, etc. etc.

Posted by: whig

Biden is one or tow stray comments/moments away from all hell breaking loose; the point is, any sustained attack where he is most suspectable, bribery and cognitive, would take him out no matter what weapons he has stacked up. As you noted the odds of a leak/whistleblower event are unknown but they are certainly much more than 0.0%.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (RUmyk)

313 283, I recall that. There are a lot of anecdotes about the TV show wings. One was the creator of wings David Angell died on 9/11 he was on one of the planes. He was a very talented producer, and I think he was the original producer of Frasier as well.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (Fy2d7)

314 Mike Johnson, closeted homo?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (/U5Yz)

315 8 Well, at least Biden effed some world leader's wife, so we have that going for us.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Sounds like wishful thinking on his part. I wouldn't put it past him, but he probably hasn't been able to for a long time.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (NMT5x)

316 Hey, big boy!

Posted by: Mae West at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (hirWM)

317 until this moment, I didn’t know the remake existed. I will try to check it out if it’s possible.
Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024

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I don't see it complete on YooToob.

I haven't seen eitehr version since they were new, so YMMV. But I thought the 1997 captured the tragic, doomed aspect of Jack much better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (J2vNu)

318 Marie Dressler was the biggest female box office draw 1930-32. Won an Oscar, too. She was pretty awesome. Garbo was the only female star as big as her in those years. Was in Dinner At Eight, and passed before it's release.
Posted by: Tilly's Punctured Romance

I love Dinner at Eight, and Dressler is one of the big reasons why.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (v6JzV)

319 292 George Santos Calls Out 'Closeted Homos' on Capitol Hill

https://tinyurl.com/yzjkneca

Sodomite Nation
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley
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That is part of the uniparty secret in DC. Gay guys in the political scene there have literally exchanged body fluids with double digit others in the local gay scene. They all know each other as a result and they pounce like predators on fresh meat from the sticks as soon as the rubes arrive at the Emerald City.

That is why Veritas guy targets so many of those guys. They love to brag about their position like peacocks and are always on the lookout for strange.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)

320 NATO and Old Joe in the same frame?

I prayed to God to punish our enemies, I guess. I'm not sure I want to be responsible for this.

Posted by: Tom Perry at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (MX0bI)

321 314 Mike Johnson, closeted homo?

Well I certainly wasn't told anything about that.

Posted by: Mike Luntz-McCarthy at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (gKWVE)

322 I recall that. There are a lot of anecdotes about the TV show wings. One was the creator of wings David Angell died on 9/11 he was on one of the planes. He was a very talented producer, and I think he was the original producer of Frasier as well.
Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024

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The two shows, and Cheers, were part of the same universe. Norm and Cliff showed up as passengers in one Wings episode.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (J2vNu)

323 I can’t see the public going along with an A/C ban. It’s one thing to ban ICE cars, for EVs. You still have a car. But banning A/C? You have nothing but misery in summer. People will not allow that shit.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (t56FM)

324 310 People like what they like. The author's opinion on what was good and what should or shouldn't be changed is just, like, his opinion, man.

As long as the checks clear, you think he'd be happy.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (1Id

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My central issue is using King as an authority on why changes are good and bad. I despise argument by authority in general, but King isn't even a good authority.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

325 > I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.
-----------
A total collapse? Here? Before long ships and planes will be arriving from countries X, Y and Z to sweep up the remains. People will be fed. Provided they are willing to be subjugated. Which they will. Are. Whatever.

The gung-ho types will be shot first.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2024 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

326 44
‘ they've convinced themselves Trump has appointed a "Secretary of Retribution" and fully intends to send out right wing death squads,’

Do you know where to send my resume?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2024 12:00 PM (jbnUc)

327
I'm not talking about vehicles specifically, I'm talking about residential. There is all kinds of fuckery afoot with refrigerant gases across the board.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM

Across the pond, they're using propane as the most efficient refrigerant. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 12:00 PM (RKVpM)

328 Trump’s best move is staying silent. Don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s self destructing. But that’s an impossible ask of Trump.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:57 AM (t56FM)

Piping up and turning the crank is fun. It's part of his draw.

Trump needs to keep himself in the news because otherwise all the D drama could take too much attention and leave everyone waiting for some grand exciting climax with Trump becoming a sideshow until they're ready to deploy their next lie against him.

Winning or losing, why let them completely control the narrative?

He did it to Hillary who was inevitable and now everyone in hindsight thinks she was weak and feeble and a terrible candidate. Which is hilarious to me because I literally said at the time it would happen, to all the people who called me stupid for saying Trump could and would beat her.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2024 12:01 PM (U2stO)

329 And yes, and including Vietnam vets like my own father, they slide out despised Platoon.
Posted by: Quint

My dad, Pappymayhem, was a Vietnam vet and he hated most of those 80s/90s Vietnam movies. He didn't mind Hamburger Hill. But never watched it twice.
I worked with a guy who was a vet that actually was in the real battle depicted in Hamburger Hill. He was an alcoholic.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2024 12:02 PM (4XwPj)

330 Wish I would have invested in gold.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (RhGG0)

In 1974

Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2024 12:02 PM (AwYPR)

331 My central issue is using King as an authority on why changes are good and bad. I despise argument by authority in general, but King isn't even a good authority.

That's fair. I think I also missed some original context.

(I've also never read any King, or seen any movies based on his works, IIRC.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 12:02 PM (1Idb6)

332 Wish I would have invested in gold.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2024 11:27 AM (RhGG0)

In 1974
Posted by: BignJames

Plastics. That is the one I miss getting in on.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (RUmyk)

333 290 And Crystal Bernard.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

*insert Jack Nicholson nodding .gif here*

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (DTX3h)

334
Across the pond, they're using propane as the most efficient refrigerant. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 12:00 PM (RKVpM)

It works well in 134a systems and you'll find leaks easier.

The explosion factor, however.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

335 That's what I'm hearing. Going to be 90 degrees as well..after a day NATO meetings.

I'ts like they want him to fail.
Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2024 11:42 AM (G0vdT)

I also heard Charlie Kirk say that this will be with nat sec reporters as well as the WH press corpse, so not the usual note takers either.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (qvYge)

336 Biden is one or tow stray comments/moments away from all hell breaking loose; the point is, any sustained attack where he is most suspectable, bribery and cognitive, would take him out no matter what weapons he has stacked up. As you noted the odds of a leak/whistleblower event are unknown but they are certainly much more than 0.0%.
Posted by: Altaria Poilgram
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Biden himself is probably beyond caring and his vicious family doesn't give a shit about his rotting animated corpse nor each other. The problem for the Dems, if he is taken down, they will suffer the whirlwind itself. Foreign interests have bribed, coerced, and compromised sexually a lot of official Washington. Essentially, in isolation, yeah a 'whistleblower' could come forward and generate a storm which would matter if Biden was honest and decent (or his family was) and the rest of the vultures in DC were pure.

It is not so and like the Mafia's reason for made men and omerta, it makes trying to defect a dangerous proposition when the whole DC establishment is based on willing giving kompromat to get political power.

Bathouse Barry doesn't want his cock capades advertised nor his Iran-MB connection.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (mIs2x)

337 237
To people -- and there are many -- who say "If there's a crash, what are you going to do, take an ounce of gold to the store and try to buy bread?" I say, what will you do, head over there with a share of Chrysler stock? We grow some food, and stand ready to grow a lot more, and have some means of protecting it. The "gold at the store" crowd can't do that either.

I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 11:46 AM (zdLoL)
----
LOL
It's heavy enough to put in a pillow case and bop someone over the head if they get too uppity!
You're not going to buy bread with it but you may buy the bakery or a vehicle.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti criminali sporchi! at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (qfLjt)

338 Well hopefully the recent castration of Chevron will throw a wrench into the government gears, as far as 'rules' about banning stuff goes-

I don't like EOs- too often abused

the executive branch should have NO legislative power whatsoever

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 12:03 PM (/7KEl)

339 I've never believed that the author's interpretation of his/her own work should be the controlling one. Once the work is published, it is what it is and anybody is free to interpret it however they wish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 12:04 PM (v6JzV)

340 "But banning A/C? You have nothing but misery in summer. People will not allow that shit.

Posted by: Biden is Finished"

It would be the end of the south, that is for sure. No way I could survive here. But the Dems want to ban gas heat too so the only good options will be paces with very moderate climates like coastal California or Oregon.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2024 12:04 PM (GUOwU)

341 The two shows, and Cheers, were part of the same universe. Norm and Cliff showed up as passengers in one Wings episode.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
======
Frasier and Lilith did as well conducting a self help seminar on the island.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:05 PM (mIs2x)

342 That is part of the uniparty secret in DC. Gay guys in the political scene
______

We must protect our precious Gayocracy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2024 12:05 PM (EDPph)

343 Alec Baldwin Day 2. He has managed to not call anyone a fat pig so far today. Plus he is wearing a lavender shirt which is pretty gay; I am guess his attorneys have him on estrogen.

Posted by: Altaria Poilgram at July 11, 2024 12:05 PM (RUmyk)

344 "323 I can’t see the public going along with an A/C ban. It’s one thing to ban ICE cars, for EVs. You still have a car. But banning A/C? You have nothing but misery in summer. People will not allow that shit.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 11:59 AM (t56FM)"

That's the entire point. You turn the screws until people act up, then hammer them for being "insurrectionists".

And no, you won't "still have a car" with EV's as they don't scale up. Far fewer will be able to afford them (even if they have cheap models, they're not cheap when the battery needs replaced..), and even fewer will be able to reasonably use them on account of charging infrastructure. This is the same old "shove everyone into the cities" commie bullshit, albeit in slow motion with a bunch of fancy fig leaves on top.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:05 PM (MCFC3)

345 Turn lead into gold... or food.

I figured out that "water into wine" trick years ago.
You pour it on a grape vine, and wait about six months.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 12:06 PM (zdLoL)

346 Biden himself is probably beyond caring and his vicious family doesn't give a shit about his rotting animated corpse nor each other. The problem for the Dems, if he is taken down, they will suffer the whirlwind itself.

Yup, the standoff has been correctly described as Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD).

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

347 If the Republicans were smart they'd be preparing a 'Bob's Big Boy' mascot for positioning within full view of the cameras for today's event......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 11, 2024 12:06 PM (QGaXH)

348 So, someone tell me how the Potato is going to do well at the NATO Conference, with everyone there knowing he's well past his expiration date? There won't be any real leadership there. Nor is there any leadership right now. Our myopic media is focused on the wrong thing as usual. If Biden is being pressured to step don, then this conference is a waste of time for all concerned.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 11, 2024 12:06 PM (W+kMI)

349 I now have three neighbors with chickens.

People are preparing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM (u82oZ)

350 George Santos Calls Out 'Closeted Homos' on Capitol Hill

https://tinyurl.com/yzjkneca

Sodomite Nation
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley
__________

I've long believed DC was crawling with closet homos and sexual deviants. That's where these perverts go: where the pliable young men (and women) are. Just like why Willie Sutton robbed banks.

It's Hollywood for ugly people, so why shouldn't it be just as gay and perverted as Hollywood? Aspiring stars and starlets trundle off Greyhound buses on Sunset Blvd, willing to do almost anything to jump-start their careers, and run willingly into the maws of rich, powerful perverts and scumbags. The same is true of DC except everyone is much uglier.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM (iFTx/)

351 291. 264. 216.

Sure, if the feds actually followed the law and courts held them to it, and they aren't also hanging on every lever available to try and price it out of existence.
Posted by: somedood

Votes count. I cannot emphasize that enough. Bring in the party, bring in their Federal agency leaders.

I've seen Administrations slash unnecessary regulations and the "other side" has its people run through the streets screaming pigeons are at danger. (Not much of an exaggeration.) I've seen administrations send their people out to rack up "numbers" inspections, fines. "Because they care."

People have to back off and learn to think for themselves. Yeah, now you might wind up jobless but to continue feeding the dragon is also a lousy option.

Peace.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM (NFX2v)

352 If there’s a crash everything crashes. Gold, stocks, real estate, you name it. All assets.

We're putting you in the Shit and Go Blind column, then.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM (zdLoL)

353 My dad, Pappymayhem, was a Vietnam vet and he hated most of those 80s/90s Vietnam movies.

It's interesting to look at, say, Deer Hunter and Rambo and all the Vietnam/'Nam vet movies in that era, and wooooow was that market saturated.

TV had "Nam vet" in some characters' backstories (Magnum P.I., IIRC, was one) but obviously played different angles.

Anyway, every so often "bleak" becomes a major motion picture vibe. In the 70's there was a lot of dark and gritty and dystopian and then Star Wars comes along and things get fun again in the 80's, but you still have serious/dour Oscar-bait types in the mix, too.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (1Idb6)

354 It would be the end of the south, that is for sure. No way I could survive here

—

Also the end of the desert SW. Phoenix and Las Vegas without A/C? Good luck with that.

That’s what I mean. There’s no way a/c is banned. There will be riots in the streets.

Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (t56FM)

355 I've long believed DC was crawling with closet homos and sexual deviants. That's where these perverts go: where the pliable young men (and women) are. Just like why Willie Sutton robbed banks.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM (iFTx/)

The slush fund isn't there for male on female sexual harassment cases only......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

356 The same is true of DC except everyone is much uglier.
Posted by: Elric Blade

*come hither look*

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (gKWVE)

357 They jailed the author of the book FMJ is based on, The Short Timers, for over due library books.

I think they wanted him for war crimes but settled with what they could get a conviction on.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (xcIvR)

358 315 8 Well, at least Biden effed some world leader's wife, so we have that going for us.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Sounds like wishful thinking on his part. I wouldn't put it past him, but he probably hasn't been able to for a long time.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2024 11:58 AM (NMT5x)

Hmmm, and Hunter is now hanging around the WH full time. Coincidence?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (N39Ws)

359 Not a good look, proclaiming a "Big Boy" event so soon after Jill told Joe, "you answered all the questions!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2024 12:09 PM (tT6L1)

360 Speaking of cars, if you actually have need of a truck to tow, or would like an engine that might go the long haul without shitting itself to death, you should probably be paying close attention. You can't even get a vanilla V8 in most 1/2 ton trucks anymore - we're moving up to 3/4 or 1 tons to avoid the turbo and GDI nonsense, even though we prefer smaller rigs.

Still hoping Trump pulls it out on November but if not the writing is on the wall. Fuel efficiency standards are about to skullfuck the vehicle market hard if not stopped.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:09 PM (MCFC3)

361 We grow some food, and stand ready to grow a lot more, and have some means of protecting it. The "gold at the store" crowd can't do that either.

I think most people's plan for a crash is to shit and go blind.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver

Shelter, food, and water are the sine quo non of life during an apocalyptic event. Gold (and silver) is mainly useful as a basis for trade after teh crash but not in the neatly formed ingots. Old worn coins valuable only for silver/gold content are what the Argentina dude recommended after the peaceful economic collapse in Argentina in 00's. Fresh silver or gold makes you are target for robbery figuring you got more of it.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:09 PM (mIs2x)

362 "354 It would be the end of the south, that is for sure. No way I could survive here

—

Also the end of the desert SW. Phoenix and Las Vegas without A/C? Good luck with that.

That’s what I mean. There’s no way a/c is banned. There will be riots in the streets.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (t56FM)"

Again, that's the entire point.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (MCFC3)

363 I've never believed that the author's interpretation of his/her own work should be the controlling one. Once the work is published, it is what it is and anybody is free to interpret it however they wish.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 12:04 PM (v6JzV)

A buddy is acquaintances with Craig Johnson, who wrote the Longmire book series. He said the TV show bore little resemblance to what he wrote, but they paid him well, so he shrugged and said, okay.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (xPJvm)

364 I've never believed that the author's interpretation of his/her own work should be the controlling one. Once the work is published, it is what it is and anybody is free to interpret it however they wish.

Same, but the author will have some insights, he'll also miss some undercurrents or subtext he unconsciously put in there.

But then the critics get ahold of it and let's just say they can be wrong, too.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (1Idb6)

365 NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (+hny1)

366
That’s what I mean. There’s no way a/c is banned. There will be riots in the streets.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (t56FM)"

Again, that's the entire point.
Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (MCFC3)

Can't usher in martial law without complete chaos on the streets, everywhere.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

367 244 good call. I love the comedies from that time. Wings was underrated.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Fy2d7)

368 (I've also never read any King, or seen any movies based on his works, IIRC.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024

***
If you've seen Stand By Me or The Shawshank Redemption, you've seen fine adaptations of two of his best (non-scary) works.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (J2vNu)

369 That’s what I mean. There’s no way a/c is banned. There will be riots in the streets.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 11, 2024 12:08 PM (t56FM)

Lets be honest. Those who sit on high and tell us we have to give up our A/C? You think they will? There will be a loophole or some other excuse. The great unwashed gets to roast in the summer, freeze in the winter while the elites continue to enjoy comfortable temps in their homes and beach houses.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (N39Ws)

370
I now have three neighbors with chickens.

People are preparing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 11, 2024 12:07 PM

Two neighbors with chickens here. What I am stockpiling is soup. Shit goes real bad, it's a meal. Long shelf life.

After a year or so, donate it to charity and write it off.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (RKVpM)

371 I've never believed that the author's interpretation of his/her own work should be the controlling one. Once the work is published, it is what it is and anybody is free to interpret it however they wish.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Which explains many of the tussles over the Bible.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (ibKjr)

372 Hell, even in the North, August is pretty intolerable without AC.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (v6JzV)

373 "Shelter, food, and water are the sine quo non of life during an apocalyptic event. Gold (and silver) is mainly useful as a basis for trade after teh crash but not in the neatly formed ingots. Old worn coins valuable only for silver/gold content are what the Argentina dude recommended after the peaceful economic collapse in Argentina in 00's. Fresh silver or gold makes you are target for robbery figuring you got more of it.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:09 PM (mIs2x)"

Those who had enough gold either GTFO'ed out of Argentina or had the local juice to have effective security forces. You use it to go some place you don't have to subsistence farm and get set up again.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (MCFC3)

374 346 Biden himself is probably beyond caring and his vicious family doesn't give a shit about his rotting animated corpse nor each other. The problem for the Dems, if he is taken down, they will suffer the whirlwind itself.

Yup, the standoff has been correctly described as Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD).
Posted by: Archimedes
=========
For me, the Biden-Dem internal conflict is kinda like Iran v. Iraq back in the day. Hope it bleeds both parties and they both lose.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (mIs2x)

375 >So, someone tell me how the Potato is going to do well at the NATO Conference, with everyone there knowing he's well past his expiration date?
----

by the other guys pretending nothing's wrong
'He's fine, whaddya talking about?'

and the WH advance team will have put the word out, 'do what you can to help us thru this'

politics, man

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 12:11 PM (/7KEl)

376 349 I now have three neighbors with chickens.

People are preparing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

America's chickens are coming home to roost!

Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at July 11, 2024 12:12 PM (V5BDR)

377 >Once the work is published, it is what it is and anybody is free to interpret it however they wish.

especially if you paid the author big bucks for the rights

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 12:12 PM (/7KEl)

378 If you've seen Stand By Me or The Shawshank Redemption, you've seen fine adaptations of two of his best (non-scary) works.

I have not. It's actually kind of amazing some of the movies I've just never seen. (Many of which I actually own, but haven't gotten around to watching.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2024 12:12 PM (1Idb6)

379 After a year or so, donate it to charity and write it off.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Why didn't I think of that?
-- Kramer

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 12:13 PM (ibKjr)

380 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Sponge - Saw the update on the Mrs. yesterday, but didn't get a chance to respond. You two are in my prayers. If you are OK with it, drop me an email. My email is in the link. My daughter is going through breast cancer as well. Stay strong and positive.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 11, 2024 12:13 PM (N39Ws)

381 Those who had enough gold either GTFO'ed out of Argentina or had the local juice to have effective security forces. You use it to go some place you don't have to subsistence farm and get set up again.
Posted by: somedood
=======
Emigres from places like Germany etc to other nations were shorn of a lot of their wealth upon arrival at new countries.

I suspect the coming collapse will more resemble the Great Depression worldwide with the spicy addition of warfare/internal unrest breaking out in specific areas where old grievances will get hashed out.

I follow emigre stories every now and then to places like Belize, Honduras, etc. and often those turn into nightmares simply because the newly arrived wealthy are viewed as prey for the locals.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:14 PM (mIs2x)

382 Kamala Harris is best 'alternative' to Biden, but America is 'sexist and racist': Jen Psaki

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 12:15 PM (/7KEl)

383 Oh, missed the update on your Mrs., Sponge. Fervent prayers for all those suffering any illness. And prayers for those that pray for them too.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 12:15 PM (ibKjr)

384 White House official hopes Biden embarrasses himself at NATO summit so he can be forced out: Report

Posted by: Don Black- tuned in, hip, and 'with it' at July 11, 2024 12:15 PM (/7KEl)

385 "Lets be honest. Those who sit on high and tell us we have to give up our A/C? You think they will? There will be a loophole or some other excuse. The great unwashed gets to roast in the summer, freeze in the winter while the elites continue to enjoy comfortable temps in their homes and beach houses.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (N39Ws)"

It's the death by a thousand regulatory cuts, nickel and diming. Fewer and fewer people would be able to afford new equipment, or to keep older equipment running.

This is already happening with furnaces and residential AC units via efficiency mandates, bans on certain materials, etc. And I guaran-fucking-tee you that far fewer people driving clunkers now have working AC on account of the succession of ever more expensive automotive refrigerants and all the regulatory BS attached to them. This has been going on for years.

They'll also attack it by indirectly coercing "smart" thermostats - fewer people will be able to afford power without the thermostat discounts, and therefore lose autonomy on how they use their AC. All those suckers locally had their thermostats turned up here the other day, for example.

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:16 PM (MCFC3)

386 Turn lead into gold... or food.

I figured out that "water into wine" trick years ago.
You pour it on a grape vine, and wait about six months.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
--------

John Stewart, 'Gold'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUtpUdY3Uo

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2024 12:17 PM (XeU6L)

387 320 NATO and Old Joe in the same frame?

I prayed to God to punish our enemies, I guess. I'm not sure I want to be responsible for this.
-------
You can tell that Putin, Xi, Kim, and the ayatollahs are really shaking in their shoes, right?

Posted by: exdem13 at July 11, 2024 12:18 PM (W+kMI)

388 "Emigres from places like Germany etc to other nations were shorn of a lot of their wealth upon arrival at new countries.

I suspect the coming collapse will more resemble the Great Depression worldwide with the spicy addition of warfare/internal unrest breaking out in specific areas where old grievances will get hashed out.

I follow emigre stories every now and then to places like Belize, Honduras, etc. and often those turn into nightmares simply because the newly arrived wealthy are viewed as prey for the locals.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2024 12:14 PM (mIs2x)"

Yep, you can't just go some place cheap where you have no connections. If you do it, you need to have enough to pick a nice place and not be broke after you get there. There is a specific sort of calculus to "how bad is it going to be if I stay" vs "how much will it suck to start over"

Posted by: somedood at July 11, 2024 12:20 PM (MCFC3)

389 Many of us are pretty introverted. I, myself, meet up with people exactly once per year. As a result, and in understanding, if we see people at the MoMe sitting alone, particularly if we don't visually recognize them, we'll leave them be in case they're trying to re-center themselves.

When you're ready for a bit of company, just walk up to pretty much any small group - optionally listen to what they're talking about for a minute - introduce yourself and join the conversation. No one has kicked me out of one yet.

Thanks, but the truth is trying to give me social advice is like me trying to give an average person advice on how to design a computer. If that section of the brain isn't present, it just isn't there. There is nothing wrong with somebody who can't design a computer, they just don't have neurons available to do that kind of work. Same thing with me socially; the neurons just aren't there to process that kind of thing. Everyone has about the same number of neurons, nobody is "smarter" than other people. God only gives each of us so much of the picture of existence.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at July 11, 2024 12:21 PM (46/wy)

390 "Trump’s best move is....."

Is doing what I want him to do when I want him to do it!

Why won't trumpy mctrumpface just do that!???!

/stampyfoot stampy foot....

Posted by: Outside. In my garage. at July 11, 2024 12:21 PM (89Sog)

391 My favorite King story and movie is Needful Things. The acting was great in the movie.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti criminali ! at July 11, 2024 12:24 PM (qfLjt)

392 329, Hamburger Hill was very underrated. And I recall Steven Weber from Wings was in Hamburger Hill. Prayers up for your vet, my gratitude.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2024 12:28 PM (Fy2d7)

393 311. I'm not talking about vehicles specifically, I'm talking about residential. There is all kinds of fuckery afoot with refrigerant gases across the board.
Posted by: somedood

Look up EPA & Refrigerants. And, yes, expensive, largely unnecessary. Consider the political party in charge, who writes and enforces the regulations, Congress' involvement.

I do understand your frustration. Good luck.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 11, 2024 12:37 PM (NFX2v)

394 166 Maybe Ace will have a live thread (I almost typed "vile," but actually, considering the subject matter, there's not much difference) of the BB presser.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2024 11:33 AM (J2vNu)

Aren't all threads 'live' threads?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 11, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

'vile' works too....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 11, 2024 12:40 PM (QGaXH)

395 213 A HS chum just posted: "Four years again the DJIA closed at 19,173. Yesterday, it closed at 39,921 DOUBLING retirement accounts. So yes! We ARE better off than four years ago."

I can't even. It will come as no surprise to my beloved Horde that her first name is "Bambi". No fooling.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2024 11:43 AM (ibKjr)

Cherry-picking the time-line. Four years ago was the midst of the covid crash. How is it versus 5 years ago?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 11, 2024 12:47 PM (QGaXH)

396 Lets be honest. Those who sit on high and tell us we have to give up our A/C? You think they will? There will be a loophole or some other excuse. The great unwashed gets to roast in the summer, freeze in the winter while the elites continue to enjoy comfortable temps in their homes and beach houses.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 11, 2024 12:10 PM (N39Ws)

The only way that will happen if it's allowed to happen. These people, in the end, need to pay the ultimate price. Will they? Time will tell.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 11, 2024 01:11 PM (iODuv)

397 Do you have any video of that? Ι'ԁ want to find out more
details.

Posted by: a at July 11, 2024 06:32 PM (H/o7T)

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