Hobby Thread - July 6, 2024 [TRex]

Welcome hobbyists! Do not adjust your interweb. This is an unapologetic Independence Day edition of the hobby thread. (Yes, we say "Independence Day" in this house - not just "July 4th.") Accordingly, a spin of the Ace of Spades wheel of hobbies has come up with a flag-waving theme.

The stars and stripes aren't a hobby per se, but we can make a hobby theme to celebrate Independence Day. Historians? Plenty of history has followed the flag in all of its forms. After all, it has waved in transit across the Delaware, above Fort McHenry and atop Mount Suribachi. Sewers and seamstresses? After all, Elizabeth Griscomare took a rough design idea and provided guidance to refine it further. You may know her more commonly as Betsy Ross. Mary Young Pickersgill made two large flags by hand for Fort McHenry. Photographers? One of the most famous photos ever taken showed a flag being hoisted at Iwo Jima. Genealogists? The flag has been draped over coffins and carefully folded and presented to descendants as a symbol of appreciation for honorable and faithful service. Musicians? The national anthem is a difficult song to sing and often requires performing live on a high profile stage in coordination with others. Military aviation? Oh yeah. Weather chasers? Florida man has you covered.

Do you have a special place to display the stars and stripes at your home? Do you have a favorite flag story? Do you have a flag that is important to your family? Have you made your own - in any medium? Have you visited noteworthy places where the flag flies? What traditions do you have for Independence Day? Do you have memories of parades and picnics and fireworks? How do you teach youngsters about Independence Day? Do you remember how you learned? Do you remember being taken to relevant sites? Did you take your children?

The horde is international, trans-oceanic, and potentially multi-planetary. If the American Independence Day and the American flag are not part of your tradition, please indulge us. Normal programming will resume next week.

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Respect for flag:
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speakers desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
4 U.S.C. 8.

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Peace the Old Fashioned Way. Lockheed F-117 - tail number 782 is the oldest of five Nighthawk prototypes. This shot comes from the 2005 Edwards Air Force Base Open House and Air Show. The video link shows the 782 and three others making their final flight to Plant 42 for retirement (at least we thought it was permanent retirement at the time):

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The American flag from the famous flag raising photo taken by AP photographer Joe Rosenthal at the top of Mount Suribachi on the island of Iwo Jima currently lives in the United States Marine Corps museum in Virginia, near Quantico. The fighting on Iwo Jima was fierce and lasted 36 days. The Marines made it to the top of Mount Suribachi and raised a flag on February 23, 1945. It could be seen by Marines fighting below and the sailors offshore. Ships blew their horns when they saw the flag and sailors and Marines and sailors cheered. Marine Staff Sgt. Louis Lowery of Leatherneck Magazine was there and took several photos to capture the scene, but everyone ran for cover when the flag attracted gunfire from Japanese soldiers.

The Secretary of the Navy watched from offshore and requested the flag as a souvenir. Marine Corps Lt. Col. Chandler Johnson got the order and decided to replace the flag with a larger flag but keep the original for the Marines. A group of Marines climbed the mountain, took down the first one, raised the second one and Rosenthal got the iconic photo.

The first flag only flew for a few hours, so it wasn't weathered. The second flag shows more signs of wear and is shown in the photo above. Both are in the Marine Corps Museum, but only the second is on permanent display. Lowery's photos weren't published until after the war.

The movie "Flags of our Fathers" tells the story.

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Another first flag/second flag story surrounds Fort McHenry and the origin story of the US national anthem. Francis Scott Key had approached the British navy on a mission of mercy to negotiate the release of the elderly Dr. William Beanes, a civilian non-combatant who had been taken prisoner by the British. The doctor was released and both returned to Key's boat, but the boat was tethered to a British ship and placed under guard to prevent them from disclosing British military information for the coming attack.

Key and others watched the 25 hour bombardment from the harbor. When morning came and the smoke lifted, he saw a waving American flag still above the fort. The British waited two days to release him which provided time to write a few lyrics.

The flag that waved during the bombardment is lost to history. A new flag was raised in the morning - the one Key saw. The second flag is the star spangled banner that is on display at the Smithsonian Museum of American History. The story of the flag's conservation is worth a look for anyone interested in history or textiles. The Smithsonian completed its conservation project in 2006.

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This Old House with tips on flag etiquitte:

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The national anthem is better with the Blue Angels:

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This is a hobby thread, so we should do some building and crafting:

American Flag Quilt Tutorial

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Flordia Man!

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Did you miss last week's hobby thread with an national parks? The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content. Thanks to Diogenes for this tip:

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This kind of thing warrants a field trip, so off we went:

Just a reminder that new finds may be hiding in plain sight - right in your backyard! (Yes, there are American flags at the markers - consistent with the theme.)

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If the flag is not your thing and you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, you may be beyond redemption. In any case, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different hobby next time around. Send thoughts or suggestions to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Team America has endorsed this thread content. No refunds. Thanks for being here.

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1 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 05:31 PM (fwDg9)

2 If you love old cemeteries and get to Philadelphia go see Old Pine St Church. Worked there last summer

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

3 As for hobbies, painted my last section of game board for my miniatures. And in 2 weeks at this time will be St the Historicon miniatures convention

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 05:36 PM (fwDg9)

4 This fucking old house... ? Tone deaf.

Posted by: Ig at July 06, 2024 05:38 PM (I0XD1)

5 Hobbies are almost entirely a white man thing let's be honest.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 05:40 PM (aiCOr)

6 Washington astride an allosaur! Love it!

I liked the artwork of some years ago with Ronald Reagan aboard a dinosaur, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 05:42 PM (omVj0)

7 Hobby? I bought myself a new pipe and a new tobacco blend last week, if that counts. It's a Peterson brand, a sandblasted Dublin (the faintly conical shape) with a nickel mount for the acrylic stem. The leaf is a new one called Horizons with super-cool late '50s-early '60s style art on the tin (stars, a rocket ship, a '59 Caddy convertible, a blonde in sunglasses smoking a pipe). They ought to be delivered next week.

I'd been looking at some estate (aka used) pipes on another site, but they were all so . . . good-looking. I couldn't imagine bringing a match or lighter near such nicely finished and polished wood, any more than you'd want to wave a Bowie knife close to an antique desk. The rugged sandblast on the Dublin says "I'm off to Antarctica, and I want a pipe that'll handle the trip!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 05:48 PM (omVj0)

8 Do all national anthems have lyrics? I'd prefer to just hear the music played by a brass band.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 05:51 PM (63Dwl)

9 How come China, Russia or Iran don’t have the equivalent of the Blue Angles? Why? Because they suck that’s why. And now I have to go grill dinner. Have a wonderful evening all.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 06, 2024 05:52 PM (oj7h2)

10 Any of the other Horde Hams get a clean sweep of the 13 Colonies Special Event? I finally managed to snag the French station this morning to finish out all 16 stations.

http://13colonies.us/

Posted by: Bert G at July 06, 2024 05:53 PM (VARTN)

11 I grew up fanatically patriotic. The US Flag was very important to me. But something has changed, now I see an American Flag, it's like I'm seeing a gravestone or a monument to something now gone.

The Republic dying and nobody doing anything about it (including me, Mea Culpa) did that to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 05:53 PM (xcxpd)

12 Ahoy, landlubbers!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 05:55 PM (QZlK3)

13 Only white men created societies that had the opportunities for leisure that gave rise to hobbies.

Note that it never happened in Sub-Saharan African cultures.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (aiCOr)

14 Closing in on 5 pm. I wish it were getting dark now, as it does in December.

As for my writing hobby: Things are proceeding with the All Will Burn, Vol. 3 anthology from Raconteur Press with my story in it. The editor reminded me to go to PubShare and review/accept my participation in the project; that's how we will get paid. They had said something, too, about the actual book/e-book coming out on 7/19, and that they would send us at least one link to promotional material before then.

Once I get that I'll fire it off to Perfessor Squirrel for the Book Thread, and to everybody else I know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (omVj0)

15 Aawwww.
You used my little post.
*wipes tear*
Finding that little park was a treasure. When I was working out there I visited several times. Each visit was special.
I hope to get back there this Fall and when I do, I'll go there again.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 05:58 PM (W/lyH)

16 Only white men created societies that had the opportunities for leisure that gave rise to hobbies.

Note that it never happened in Sub-Saharan African cultures.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (aiCOr)

I guess I’ll just throw out my bonsai tree and origami collection.

Posted by: WTF at July 06, 2024 06:02 PM (SHMXB)

17 It's got a little dusty in here today.
God Bless America.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 06, 2024 06:02 PM (1pfzJ)

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A poser for scouts is, "How do you fly a flag at half staff?" The follow up is, "How do you lower a flag from bring flown at half staff?"

Raising: run the flag up to the top of the flagpole rapidly, then lower it slowly to half staff, then secure the halyard.

Lowering: run the flag from half staff to the top of the pole rapidly, then lower it to ground level slowly. Detach the flag from the halyard, fold it, and secure the halyard.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 06, 2024 06:04 PM (i4sOa)

19 Mark, that's an entirely understandable reaction.

Patriotism is a difficult thing for those to us who came of age in the Eighties.

That was a time we were patriotic to a fault.

Since that time we have watched as our nation was become something very different than what we knew it to be.

And its been very difficult for us to understand.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:05 PM (aiCOr)

20 14 Once I get that I'll fire it off to Perfessor Squirrel for the Book Thread, and to everybody else I know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (omVj0)
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Congrats!! Keep us posted.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

21 8 Do all national anthems have lyrics? I'd prefer to just hear the music played by a brass band.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 05:51 PM (63Dwl)

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Brass? The Peruvian National Anthem was composed for vuvuzelas and slide whistles.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:07 PM (zhMsg)

22 Hubby's family had a beach house in a little coastal community. The kind of place where families grew up together, etc. His long-time neighbor had a July 4th tradition of the classic block party - lemonade, cookies, and such - where they would always read the Constitution in full. They'd hand out notecards, each with a few sentences, and then everyone reads their part, in order. Wonderful tradition, kids and adults all participating. We spent a couple of July 4ths there while dating, and enjoyed this tradition very much.

It's good to remember why our forefathers took the giant risk they did.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:08 PM (+oRno)

23 My wife's family graveyard, in an out of the way Palestine, WV hilltop has buried soldiers from the 1700's right through today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2024 06:08 PM (Q4IgG)

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I guess I’ll just throw out my bonsai tree and origami collection.
Posted by: WTF

Yeah, troll gotta troll.
Someone has to pay them more so we get a better quality troll. They are so predictable it's sad.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 06:09 PM (z/7Ah)

25 I have a flag in a shadowbox flown on my behalf at the memorial for fallen Special Forces soldiers, sailors, Airmen and Marines at Bagram Airfield.

I have other such flags I have accumulated on deployments that I am likewise phasing into shadowboxes.

For the occasion of my retirement I had a TX state flag flown at the State Capitol that I have had placed in a shadowbox.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:09 PM (8sMut)

26 I replaced all the tires on the Spitfire today. Old school manual tire changer, knock off wire wheels with inner tubes. Taught #2 son how to do it.

Then I replaced the AC compressor and dryer on Mrs fd's 240SX. Tomorrow I'll evacuate, check for leaks, and charge.

Then I can get back on my problem child.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2024 06:09 PM (vFG9F)

27 13 Only white men created societies that had the opportunities for leisure that gave rise to hobbies.

Note that it never happened in Sub-Saharan African cultures.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (aiCOr)

What about us?

Posted by: Asian cultures and societies at July 06, 2024 06:10 PM (8sMut)

28 Wolfus well that will be exciting

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:12 PM (fwDg9)

29 The tires on the Spitfire are 155/80-13. I've seen bigger space savers. They're cheap though.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2024 06:13 PM (vFG9F)

30 Some of TRex's ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War, and are buried in Stone Arabia, NY. My people didn't arrive til the mid 1800s, just in time for Civil War #1! I admit I do find walking about graveyards interesting, especially the stones that tell the stories....

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

31 I'm bent that I missed last week's topic.

The next day, I hiked to Clarity Tunnel on the Caprock Canyons Trailway. To do so I had to hike from the edge of the plains to the Caprock (and eventually stood on the Caprock). The previous weeks saw hikes through Caprock Canyons State Park (nearby) and Palo Duro Canyon. I'm looking at getting my bike repaired so I can enter the parks with it as well.

I am reconstituting one of three Camelbaks as we speak so it can be mission ready. All three of the Camelbaks have 100 oz reservoirs.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:15 PM (8sMut)

32 I'd say the point stands.

The asian examples cited are more disciplines than than hobbies.

As for Sub-Saharan Africa? Really?

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:15 PM (aiCOr)

33 Nice post, TRex . Thanks. The guy down the road from us has a farm which dates from the early 1800s. On Memorial Day and for the 4th of July he puts up small flags all around the perimeter of his property. It’s obviously a lot of work and when I see him in the local convenience store I always thank him for his patriotic display. I enjoy seeing it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2024 06:16 PM (u+PLX)

34 Florida Man showing how it is done.

That is how we deal with hurricanes. With a middle finger firmly raised.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 06:16 PM (5p7BC)

35 I was under the impression this was a hobby thread, not a 'let's create a race-related flame war' thread.

Troll, be gone!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (+oRno)

36 22 His long-time neighbor had a July 4th tradition of the classic block party where they would always read the Constitution in full. They'd hand out notecards, each with a few sentences, and then everyone reads their part, in order. Wonderful tradition, kids and adults all participating.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:08 PM (+oRno)
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Thanks for posting. Love this. Different but similar - we understand some places in Normandy gather on the anniversary of D-Day to tell the story for the children in the town.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

37 18
A poser for scouts is, "How do you fly a flag at half staff?" The follow up is, "How do you lower a flag from bring flown at half staff?"

Raising: run the flag up to the top of the flagpole rapidly, then lower it slowly to half staff, then secure the halyard.

Lowering: run the flag from half staff to the top of the pole rapidly, then lower it to ground level slowly. Detach the flag from the halyard, fold it, and secure the halyard.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 06, 2024 06:04 PM (i4sOa)

Indeed, before I joined the AF, flag etiquette was ingrained in me by the Boy Scouts (RIP).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (8sMut)

38 I don't buy this minorities don't have hobbies

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (fwDg9)

39 Our retreat in WV is not far from one of Washington's land purchases/acquisitions.
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Washington acquired extensive lands in present West Virginia, on the Ohio River, Kanawha River, and elsewhere. In 1770, he traveled down the Ohio to view these lands and seek others.
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I be here, there, whatever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2024 06:18 PM (Q4IgG)

40 31 The previous weeks saw hikes through Caprock Canyons State Park (nearby) and Palo Duro Canyon.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:15 PM
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Palo Duro got several mentions in the thread last week. Never been but the photos look impressive.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

41 35 I was under the impression this was a hobby thread, not a 'let's create a race-related flame war' thread.

Troll, be gone!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (+oRno)

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Things must be quiet at Stormfront this afternoon.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:20 PM (zhMsg)

42 Wolfus well that will be exciting
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024

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It's the second story I've had accepted for an anthology through my time here. The editor of the first one in 2019 (I've forgotten his AoS screen name) posted on the Book Thread about his new project, and I sent him three stories. He liked one of them: "Dead in First Grade." It's in The Wand That Rocks the Cradle: Magical Stories of Family, available on Amazon.

When I pick up my copy and look at the story, I'm amazed all over again that I wrote it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:20 PM (omVj0)

43 I think I have shared my flag story before.
It begins at Washington State University in the Spring of 1975. My senior year and I was graduating. I had been working as a general helper for the head custodian at the library which sits on top of the highest hill that is WSU. He was a disabled veteran from the 101st who had jumped into Normandy and Holland and was wounded at Bastogne. Still had shrapnel in his knee. He knew I was getting commissioned into the Army and would be going to Airborne training as part of my initial schooling.
My last day of work, he said no work today and he gave me two boxes to carry. We headed up some back steps of the library to the roof. There we replaced the US flag and the State flag with new ones from the boxes. When we returned to his office, he presented them to me as a gift from one soldier to another. I was just blown away.
Continued…

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 06:20 PM (W/lyH)

44 I am still doing my Bible word search puzzles . I like to convince myself that this helps keep my brain sharp , although now I’d down to puzzles such as “ H” women in the Bible”puzzles which are not as interesting to me as actual phrases from scripture. So I guess I’ll have to see if I can order another Word search book from Kappa Puzzles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2024 06:21 PM (u+PLX)

45 Part 2
I carried those flags with me throughout my career and on all deployments (Cold War assignments, Desert Shield/Storm, Somalia and Korea when we had the dust up on the nuke site). When I retired, my daughter carried on in her 6 year stint as an Army Nurse. I have them today and will pass them probably to my grandson. They are just simple flags…bits of cloth and color, but with a whole life’s worth of personal memories, and the history of America.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 06:21 PM (W/lyH)

46 38 I don't buy this minorities don't have hobbies
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:17 PM (fwDg9)

I don't either. This Mr. Ray fellow has clearly not spent a nanosecond of his life on the northeast side of San Antonio. For starters.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:22 PM (8sMut)

47 Palo Duro got several mentions in the thread last week. Never been but the photos look impressive.
Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024

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It is . . . and when you go, take a copy of Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne with you. It tells the story of the Comanches, who liked to use Palo Duro as their winter quarters.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:22 PM (omVj0)

48 The national anthem is a difficult song to sing
Bullhockey. It's a bar tune, fer cryin' out loud. You should be able to sing it drunk. All that falderal comes from pro singers trying to make it hard to sing. You do NOT have to stretch that last note up two octaves. Just sing the dang thing.

Posted by: GWB at July 06, 2024 06:22 PM (AWrpC)

49 >>Thanks for posting. Love this. Different but similar - we understand some places in Normandy gather on the anniversary of D-Day to tell the story for the children in the town.

I like that tradition.
On a related note, I really hate that the national anthem has become a performance instead of a sing-a-long. We should be singing it together, not being inflicted with the latest personalization by a singer who thinks it's about them. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:23 PM (+oRno)

50 Went down a bit early to nab a good spot on the river to watch the Norfolk fireworks on July 4th...to pass the time, I brought along my yarn to continue crocheting some smaller Christmas stockings for the kiddo cousins...some man walked past saying something about Christmas, and then turned to inform me it was only July. Yes, sir, July 4ht...but if I wait til December, they aren't getting done in time! Have no idea why that bothered him...even QVC has Christmas in July...

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

51 I admit I do find walking about graveyards interesting, especially the stones that tell the stories....
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That was one of the unexpected things I enjoyed (maybe not the right word when talking about graveyards) during my trip to England. We visited several graveyards and churchyards, and they look quite different from what I'm used to here. Less manicured, and I found that I preferred more wildness.

In the St Keverne churchyard, in addition to a mass grave for most of the sailors lost in the Mohegan shipwreck, there was a particularly sad section where infants, children, and teenagers were buried. But it was absolutely gorgeous, with a distant view of the ocean.

(The banister and staircase in the hostel we stayed in at Coverack was made from wood from the Mohegan wreck.)

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 06, 2024 06:24 PM (iZbyp)

52 >>...They are just simple flags…bits of cloth and color, but with a whole life’s worth of personal memories, and the history of America.

That is so cool!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:25 PM (+oRno)

53 Palo Duro got several mentions in the thread last week. Never been but the photos look impressive.
Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

I read that thread in full and was bent that I missed it and indeed I saw the many comments on Palo Duro. Kinda cool that people see what I see in that place, and that it is only an hour's drive away.

One of the first things I did as a AF retiree was get a TPWD Parklands Passport. With this, I go to Palo Duro, the Park Rangers waive the $8 entry fee. Therefore I have been on a hiking tear lately. Also because I suspect it has been helping with my usual breathing difficulties.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:26 PM (8sMut)

54 We should be singing it together, not being inflicted with the latest personalization by a singer who thinks it's about them. Ugh.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024

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Or a singer who mangles it. It's not an easy song even for a talented/experienced singer, I understand. Tossing somebody who is the flavor of the month in front of the mike, whether not she can sing a note without auto-tune, is a bad idea.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:26 PM (omVj0)

55 45 They are just simple flags…bits of cloth and color, but with a whole life’s worth of personal memories, and the history of America.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 06:21 PM (W/lyH)
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Getting a little dusty over here... Thanks for posting.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

56 I do plan on buying several flags the remainder of this year. Smaller ones, 2x3, instead of 3x5. But all historical: Don't Tread On Me, Gonzalez, Alamo, Cowpens, another Navy Jack, Appeal to Heaven, Don't Give Up The Ship. Maybe others. I'm prepping for a run-up to our 250th birthday.

Posted by: GWB at July 06, 2024 06:27 PM (AWrpC)

57 48 The national anthem is a difficult song to sing
Bullhockey. It's a bar tune, fer cryin' out loud

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It may be a bar tune but it requires the vocal range of Freddie Mercury.

I've heard more would-be divas butcher that song than any other.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:27 PM (zhMsg)

58 I tried to get on the air this morning but I could barely hear anyone and nobody could hear me calling CQ. Right now it's too damned hot (10

to be doing anything except sitting in the AC and sipping a cold drink.

Posted by: PabloD at July 06, 2024 06:27 PM (ohsd/)

59 My father-in-law is buried at Arlington.

The flag was folded, taps was played, then a Marine knelt before my wife, handed her the flag and said in a soft voice only for her.

"On behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Marine Corps, and a grateful nation, please accept this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your father's honorable and faithful service."

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 06:28 PM (5p7BC)

60 The Twilight Zone marathon continues on H & I. They're back to the B & W original episodes, which is a relief. Though some of the color stories from '85 or so were pretty good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:28 PM (omVj0)

61 I like that tradition.
On a related note, I really hate that the national anthem has become a performance instead of a sing-a-long. We should be singing it together, not being inflicted with the latest personalization by a singer who thinks it's about them. Ugh.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:23 PM (+oRno)

I do like the different ways it is performed. For my first baseball game, my father took me to Busch Stadium to see his Cardinals play the Giants. They did exactly what you suggest: they had the lyrics scroll by and the crowd sang it. I have also seen the National Anthem performed on a saxophone before a Spurs playoff game and found that impressive.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:29 PM (8sMut)

62 Diogenes,
What a great story, thank you for sharing it. This is a perfect example of the simple respect we used to share each other, and to our nation...

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

63 60 The Twilight Zone marathon continues on H & I. They're back to the B & W original episodes, which is a relief. Though some of the color stories from '85 or so were pretty good.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:28 PM (omVj0)

Shout! Factory is back to Season 1 of Space:1999 now; in other words, the only good season. Earthbound is on now. In about 2.5/3 hours, they will show Guardian of Piri again, which I will pause all activities to see. Yet again. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:31 PM (8sMut)

64 I am fairly certain some countries have music only, maybe that's just all the part they play

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:31 PM (fwDg9)

65 "On behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Marine Corps, and a grateful nation, please accept this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your father's honorable and faithful service."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 06:28 PM (5p7BC)

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Nice. Those little shoots of decency and honor give me hope that this nation is still worth saving.

FJB

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:32 PM (zhMsg)

66 59 My father-in-law is buried at Arlington.

The flag was folded, taps was played, then a Marine knelt before my wife, handed her the flag and said in a soft voice only for her.

"On behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Marine Corps, and a grateful nation, please accept this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your father's honorable and faithful service."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 06:28 PM (5p7BC)

Me, one year ago, except substitute "Marine Corps" with "Army", when my father's funeral took place and the flag was presented to my mother.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:33 PM (8sMut)

67 Hubby's family had a beach house in a little coastal community. The kind of place where families grew up together, etc. His long-time neighbor had a July 4th tradition of the classic block party - lemonade, cookies, and such - where they would always read the Constitution in full. They'd hand out notecards, each with a few sentences, and then everyone reads their part, in order. Wonderful tradition, kids and adults all participating.
Posted by: Lizzy
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Cool story, Lizzy. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: scampydog at July 06, 2024 06:34 PM (41CYW)

68 Twilight Zone has "One More Pallbearer," with a pre-Dr. No Joseph Wiseman as a rich man who offers three personal enemies shelter from an atomic war. This was the same year as the first Bond film; one wonders if the producers of the movie saw this before casting him.

These TZ stories are like little one-act plays. You could imagine some of them being turned into stage playscripts, and offering challenging roles for student actors in high school or college. Maybe some of them have been.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:34 PM (omVj0)

69 48 The national anthem is a difficult song to sing
Bullhockey. It's a bar tune, fer cryin' out loud

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In other words, it requires alcohol in order to do it justice.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2024 06:34 PM (BpYfr)

70 Diogenes, I do recall you sharing that awesome story some time back. Damned allergies acted up again this reading too.

Posted by: scampydog at July 06, 2024 06:36 PM (41CYW)

71 In other words, it requires alcohol in order to do it justice.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2024 06:34 PM (BpYfr)

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We'll, to be fair, the same can be said of any complex skill.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:37 PM (zhMsg)

72 I did a lot of drawing for the project, and as usual that sparks more ideas and more drawing. I like to draw everything out in full even if it will only been seen for a second or two, and be hidden in shadow as well.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 06:37 PM (CHHv1)

73 The National Anthem isn't a great song. A 5 or 6 at best.

France and Canada have better ones.

Even the Soviet Union did It better.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:38 PM (aiCOr)

74 The flag was folded, taps was played, then a Marine knelt before my wife, handed her the flag and said in a soft voice only for her.

"On behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Marine Corps, and a grateful nation, please accept this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your father's honorable and faithful service."
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My parents aren't buried at Arlington, but we had the same experience for my Mother (Navy) and Father (Army) when they died. I have Dad's flag and my brother has Mom's.

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

75 Getting rid of a hobby in about 45 mins. Couple on their way to purchase the travel trailer. Only used it four days in yhe past two years. Time for it to go to a new home.

Posted by: scampydog at July 06, 2024 06:39 PM (41CYW)

76 Last time we visited Arlington, we learned the flag at Arlington house is flown at half-staff any day there are burials. The flag is only at full height when there are no burials (Sundays and holidays). In theory, if there were no burials on a random weekday, the flag would fly at full height, but that never happens.

Quite coincidentally, we happened to be there during a funeral that warranted a four ship fly-over right above our heads which was memorable.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

77 73 The National Anthem isn't a great song. A 5 or 6 at best.

France and Canada have better ones.

Even the Soviet Union did It better.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:38 PM (aiCOr)

Blasphemy.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:39 PM (8sMut)

78 Aw crud, it was the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution that was read aloud.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 06:39 PM (+oRno)

79 So Ray, move to one of them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 06:40 PM (z/7Ah)

80 Cockpit of Blue Angel, front and center is an analogue gauge.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 06, 2024 06:41 PM (ozQLF)

81 Or a singer who mangles it. It's not an easy song even for a talented/experienced singer, I understand. Tossing somebody who is the flavor of the month in front of the mike, whether not she can sing a note without auto-tune, is a bad idea.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 06:26 PM (omVj0)

The best rendition I ever heard was done by the Pointer Sisters singing it a cappella before a Mariner's game years ago. By the time they finished, the stadium had grown silent and then the crowd just roared! They were fantastic!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 06:41 PM (W/lyH)

82 My flag means a lot to me, my government not so much. That’s just the way it is.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 06:45 PM (o2ZRX)

83 Hand wound a 64:1 Unbalanced-Unbalanced transformer today for my portable wire antenna. Yay me.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2024 06:46 PM (/U5Yz)

84 A couple of things...US Marine Corp prohibits the display of any US Flag with a fringe upon it. And Forbids Marines from participating as color guard in any event that uses such a flag.
The "Famous" Darth Biden, red scrim lighted building photo op/speech, utilized 2 US Flags with fringes on the them, and US Marines, in dress uniform to stand next to them in an "Uncharacteristic" non-official parade rest pose. As part of his "Prop" background.(But I guess, orders is orders)

I have a new neighbor(and now good friend) that moved in across the street from South Africa...he put up a US Flag on a pole from his garage, I noticed it was "Odd", too few stars, went and looked, only 15 stars, and it also had 15 stripes, asked him where he got it...turns out it was left in the garage of a rental house, was nearly new so he put it up. I thought it was some sort of chinese knockoff that someone got reallll wrong. But it was made in the USA...turns out it WAS an official flag, from 1795-1819. There have been 27 official USA Flags, 25 of which the numbers of stars were the only thing changed.
ANY and ALL are still "Correct to Fly".
I have an old one that used to fly at our family farm...48 stars.

Posted by: birdog at July 06, 2024 06:46 PM (+Fkyb)

85 I have an old one that used to fly at our family farm...48 stars.
Posted by: birdog at July 06, 2024 06:46 PM (+Fkyb)

A 49 star flag is a rare find.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:48 PM (8sMut)

86 {14} ... Once I get that I'll fire it off to Perfessor Squirrel for the Book Thread, and to everybody else I know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2024 05:57 PM (omVj0)

I'm very much looking forward to reading your story, Wolfus!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 06:49 PM (O7YUW)

87 50 Yes, sir, July 4ht...but if I wait til December, they aren't getting done in time! Have no idea why that bothered him...even QVC has Christmas in July...
Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

People just need to mind their own business. Fer cryin' out loud.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 06:49 PM (OX9vb)

88 I grew up with campers, started when I was in elementary school. My dad got Vacation every year around 4th of July, so Williamsburg, Gettysburg and other historical places were quite special thar we visited.

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:49 PM (fwDg9)

89 So Ray, move to one of them.

Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 06, 2024 06:49 PM (mH6SG)

90 84 But it was made in the USA...turns out it WAS an official flag, from 1795-1819. There have been 27 official USA Flags, 25 of which the numbers of stars were the only thing changed.
ANY and ALL are still "Correct to Fly".
Posted by: birdog at July 06, 2024 06:46 PM (+Fkyb)
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Wow. What a find. A few Antiques Roadshow episodes with old flag finds didn't make the final hobby thread cut.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

91

Mel Torme did it best -

https://youtu.be/bYUrc2gapf0

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 06:51 PM (63Dwl)

92 82 My flag means a lot to me, my government not so much. That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 06:45 PM (o2ZRX)

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Seconded

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 06:51 PM (zhMsg)

93 A moving story, Diogenes. Thanks for that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 06, 2024 06:51 PM (mH6SG)

94 87/
I think sometimes people forget they are not anonymously in front of their computer in their house....or they just failed being sociable....whatever....

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 06:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

95 {63}... Season 1 of Space:1999 now; in other words, the only good season.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:31 PM (8sMut)

Agreed on Season 1 being the only one worth watching.

What's your favourite episode?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 06:53 PM (O7YUW)

96 My current hobby, more of an obsession, is my new Honda Trail 125 I picked up in mid-June. Las Cruces has many miles of secondary and county roads, paved and dirt, that go past the farm fields and pecan orchards to popular regional destinations and the desert hills above the Rio Grande River. A secondary hobby has been upgrading and buy new the tools I will need to maintain the this lovely and simple machine.

I have named her Piglet because she has expressed interest in growing up to be a Hog. I haven't yet broke the news to her that isn't going to a happen.

The link goes to a Reddit post about one of our recent adventures. With picture goodness.

https://tinyurl.com/7j5bzekn

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 06:54 PM (u/wgs)

97 Wolfus,
Congrats on having your story published.

The Peterson Dublin series looks good and they certainly get some great reviews. Never tried any Pease blends but the write-ups about Horizon sound intriguing. Please let us know how it smokes.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 06:56 PM (zudum)

98 I love my teardrop trailer. I'm out in it every day and it's time to take it out for an overnighter.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 06:56 PM (xjTDL)

99 96 Las Cruces has many miles of secondary and county roads, paved and dirt, that go past the farm fields and pecan orchards to popular regional destinations and the desert hills above the Rio Grande River.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 06:54 PM (u/wgs)
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Motorcycle riders know the best roads.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

100 I got my flag when worked at a local flag company as a gift decades ago

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:58 PM (fwDg9)

101 Good Evening.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 06, 2024 06:58 PM (qZEuM)

102 95 {63}... Season 1 of Space:1999 now; in other words, the only good season.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:31 PM (8sMut)

Agreed on Season 1 being the only one worth watching.

What's your favourite episode?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 06:53 PM (O7YUW)

I made reference to it: Guardian of Piri. Catherine Schell (pre-Maya) is in it (as a guest star...oh, I mean, guest artist) and she is HOT. But, that is a cherry on a sundae. For me it is very reminiscent of the lotus-eaters from The Odyssey. Also, there's this: was the Guardian evil? Or was it just computer programming that went out of control?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 06:58 PM (8sMut)

103 100 I got my flag when worked at a local flag company as a gift decades ago

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 06:58 PM (fwDg9)
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Congrats Skip. You get the post #100 award!

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 06:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

104 At one place, my mom painted the wall behind the bathtub navy blue with big white stars, then added red and white striped towels. Haven't thought of that in years.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 07:00 PM (xjTDL)

105 Favorite Space 1999 episode--"Dragon's Domain." Scared the crap out of me when I first saw it, and again when I recently saw it again.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

106 I visited all those historic places with the Scouts; Boston, Gettysburg, Annapolis, Carlisle, Williamsburg, York, Groton.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 07:05 PM (RIvkX)

107 Not a hobby so much as a skill, but I've been sewing lately. I just keep getting fatter, and I don't like wearing leggings or shorts to the gym, so I've been making some summer-weight joggers. Made some nice gauze ones, and I think I could live in these.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 07:06 PM (OX9vb)

108 105 Favorite Space 1999 episode--"Dragon's Domain." Scared the crap out of me when I first saw it, and again when I recently saw it again.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

THIS IS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!

(In all seriousness, I rather like Dragon's Domain. I still chuckle over seeing Dr. Russell typing out her report on a manual typewriter a the end...anyways, I enjoy it immensely, but EVERYONE jumps on that one.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:07 PM (8sMut)

109 I should plan a trip to Gettysburg. My sister and niece live very close to it. Haven't been there in 20 years

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 07:08 PM (fwDg9)

110 Agreed on Season 1 being the only one worth watching.

What's your favourite episode?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 06:53 PM (O7YUW)

WHERE ARE YOUR OWN PEOPLE? THEY DON'T EXIST DO THEY? NO BECAUSE THEY DIED, JUST AS MY PEOPLE ARE DYING RIGHT NOW!!! FROM TOTAL APATHY!!!

Posted by: Commander John Koenig at July 06, 2024 07:09 PM (8sMut)

111 109 I should plan a trip to Gettysburg. My sister and niece live very close to it. Haven't been there in 20 years
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 07:08 PM (fwDg9)

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Watch out for that swinging hinge on Little Round Top.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:11 PM (zhMsg)

112 Independence Day always means history to me. My hometown was established not long after Plymouth and was occupied and almost ruined by the Redcoats during the Revolution. (When I was a kid, some old time families still hadn't forgiven the Brits for that.) There was always a sense of history about the place but Independence Day really brought it out. Studying history became a lifelong hobby because of that. Old flags, original muskets, a connection with General and later President Washington, were just some of the things that would catch a youngster's interest.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 07:12 PM (zudum)

113 107/
Sewing is a skill, and one I never mastered - but wish I could do better...or some....

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

114 Ice cream time. It is the weekend of the Fourth after all.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:12 PM (8sMut)

115 Flew a Navy Jack on my flagpole until 80 mph straight line winds bent it 135°.

One task for the summer is to gain access to the flagpole surrounded by forsythias, and fly a new Jack.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2024 07:13 PM (u82oZ)

116 Me, one year ago, except substitute "Marine Corps" with "Army", when my father's funeral took place and the flag was presented to my mother.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

My wife currents honors her Dad's flag in our home. She and her two brothers each keep it for a year and then it moves on to the next sib. We will be passing it to brother Mark in a few weeks when we get together in Kitty Hawk. Both of her brothers graduated from West Point and had long careers with the Army.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2024 07:13 PM (WXNFJ)

117 @102/Catch Thirty-Thr33: Good question about evil or corrupted instructions over time. You could look at it either way.

@105/BeckoningChasm: Yup. That's my favourite one too, and like you, it still gives me the willies after all these years.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 07:14 PM (O7YUW)

118 112 Independence Day always means history to me. My hometown was established not long after Plymouth and was occupied and almost ruined by the Redcoats during the Revolution.
Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 07:12 PM (zudum)
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Great story JTB. What is the town?

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

119 Do all national anthems have lyrics? I'd prefer to just hear the music played by a brass band.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 05:51 PM (63Dwl)

I think they all have lyrics, short of the EU one, maybe

They are pretty interesting, they usually reflect the musical and military tastes of the time when adopted. Star Spangled Banner is for people to sing while partying, since no one can sing it while marching. German is for marching, of course.
The Colombian one, unfortunately, sounds like it was written by Gilbert and Sullivan

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:15 PM (D7oie)

120 The great thing about being a TX native:

We have two Independence Days: July 4, and March 2.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:15 PM (8sMut)

121 Who is eligible to be buried in Arlington?

I mean, I could look it up, but this is a smart military blog, and a bunch of you probably know.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 07:15 PM (OX9vb)

122 I just keep getting fatter,.. .. Made some nice gauze ones, and I think I could live in these.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Umpossible! But, wear whatever you are comfy in. It is an essential component of the Code of Moron.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2024 07:15 PM (WXNFJ)

123 Bury me, when the time comes, at Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery. Just down the road from where the journey began, on a post where I spent much of my earliest memories in the old quarters before moving to a nearby neighborhood.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:17 PM (8sMut)

124 Who is eligible to be buried in Arlington?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

https://tinyurl.com/ykwfr5j6

(And you have to be dead too.)

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2024 07:19 PM (WXNFJ)

125 Hobby related: for me the 4th of July usually involves firearms, specifically flintlocks. I didn't this year because conditions are dangerously dry and sparks or embers from a patch could start a grass fire. But knocking over a steel target at 100 yards with a flintlock is a great way to celebrate the holiday.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 07:19 PM (zudum)

126 (And you have to be dead too.)
Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2024 07:19 PM (WXNFJ)

Haha, thank Heaven!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 07:20 PM (OX9vb)

127 {108} ... THIS IS EVERYONE'S FAVORITE!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!! ...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:07 PM (8sMut)

Other ones I'm very fond of:

The Infernal Machine, Voyager's Return, and Earthbound.

Most ridiculous episode in Season 1: Space Brain. The washing machines all went mad at once. :-)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 07:21 PM (O7YUW)

128 OK horde. Time to say thank you before the next thread emerges. Thanks for being here and all the thoughtful contributions. Let's do it again next week.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

129 I planted hibiscus, and they turned out better than I thought they would. So I have been drying out the extra flowers every day on bits of trimmer string hung from from my office windows. Then I put them in a silver bowl to finish drying, then in Ziploc bags. This way I can have hibiscus tea in the winter. It's a boring hobby, but it's a hobby.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2024 07:22 PM (0FoWg)

130 Try cjpatterns.com. I've used her patterns for years

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 07:22 PM (xjTDL)

131 Thanks for the fun thread, TRex.

If, in fact, you are TRex...,

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:22 PM (zhMsg)

132 120 The great thing about being a TX native:

We have two Independence Days: July 4, and March 2.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:15 PM (8sMut)

Mr. S's hobby is genealogy- the only hobby whose practitioners bore each other.

Years ago he compiled all the paperwork to become a Son of the Republic of Texas. The kids and grandkids are all eligible through him. His sisters used his research, as well.

Mine didn't get here until the 1840s, so I have to be something else- a Gone to Texas.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2024 07:25 PM (y7DxH)

133 Oh and check out palazzo pants. I used to have a pair I made from stretch velvet that always got compliments. Very comfortable

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 07:25 PM (xjTDL)

134 JTB I tried to test my home made black powder dusk of the 4th. But just using a blank with a paper wad it clogged up the touch hole so only had 2 flash in the pans. Next day had to get the wad and gun powder out.

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 07:25 PM (fwDg9)

135 The Infernal Machine, Voyager's Return, and Earthbound.

Most ridiculous episode in Season 1: Space Brain. The washing machines all went mad at once. :-)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2024 07:21 PM (O7YUW)

I rather enjoyed The Infernal Machine. Space Brain is pure silliness (but Star Trek had Trouble With Tribbles) but the underlying concept is interesting.

Earthbound was on just a short time ago.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:27 PM (8sMut)

136 Even the Soviet Union did It better.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:38 PM (aiCOr)

"One ping only, Vasily."

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2024 07:27 PM (y7DxH)

137 118 ... "Great story JTB. What is the town?"

Newport, RI. It was established in 1639. (Coincidence that my family came to Quebec that year.) But I didn't have any family in the States until the 1880s. It was still a wonderful place to grow up surrounded by all that history.

JackStraw lives on the next island over between Newport and the mainland.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 07:27 PM (zudum)

138 You don't have to live like a refugee.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:27 PM (zhMsg)

139 132 Mr. S's hobby is genealogy- the only hobby whose practitioners bore each other.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2024 07:25 PM (y7DxH)
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Genealogy is on the list of candidates for a future hobby thread. We'll see how un-boring we can make it if/when it takes shape.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

140 Been a decent week, hobby wise. Fixed a CPI BC2000, by replacing the 8 volt regulation circuit with a LM7808. The original engineers did the best they could with the parts they could pick from, but the transistor they used tends to die. A lot. Having a Chinese part in there does kind of spoil the 100% American made motif they liked to use, but the warranty expired 45 years ago so it shouldn't be a problem.

Also fixed the clock on a first gen President Madison CB. The Intermatic motor that drives the clock used a gear that for whatever reason gets brittle and crumbles. Found a guy selling new gears online. Put that in and she's been keeping good time every since.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 06, 2024 07:28 PM (dZVON)

141 130 Try cjpatterns.com. I've used her patterns for years
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 07:22 PM (xjTDL)

Hey, thanks! I just bookmarked.

Not a fan of palazzo pants for myself--I like a more tapered leg. A lot of women wear them well, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 07:28 PM (OX9vb)

142 131 Thanks for the fun thread, TRex.

If, in fact, you are TRex...,

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:22 PM
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George Washington's Allosaurus says so.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

143 Genealogy is on the list of candidates for a future hobby thread. We'll see how un-boring we can make it if/when it takes shape.
Posted by: TRex
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I have a good story about an ancestor who came to Virginia in 1619. It might even be true!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 06, 2024 07:29 PM (iZbyp)

144 So Ray, move to one of them.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 06:40 PM (z/7Ah)

Little there just wants attention. Tell him, "That's nice dear, but Mommy is talking to friends"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:29 PM (D7oie)

145 143 I have a good story about an ancestor who came to Virginia in 1619. It might even be true!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 06, 2024 07:29 PM
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We just visited Jamestown a few days ago. Keep the thought and be ready to share the story!!

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)

146 Quick sneak in on the 4th stuff. Minnesota's Iron Range was something of a penultimate melting pot (Scandinavians, Italians, and the Yugo peoples). It was and is a wildly patriotic place. Over the decades the Iron Range stayed small town in every way possible and each year the 4th was a time to go all in. It also helped that decades of expats came home. Best small town parades ever.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 07:31 PM (u/wgs)

147 But the research skills come in handy when helping to reconstruct the county's portion of the 1890 "Lost Census".

He is after that like dog with a bone.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2024 07:31 PM (y7DxH)

148 You know what's great about summers in July on the water?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:32 PM (zhMsg)

149 My family is planted in several ABMC maintained graveyards in Europe. We have one MIA/KIA in Korean they never found. A few friends in Arlington, but others whose folks wanted them buried closer to home. All good men, the best to walk the planet. I miss ever one of them dearly.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 06, 2024 07:32 PM (nrUfy)

150 "The Intermatic motor that drives the clock used a gear that for whatever reason gets brittle and crumbles."

That's amazing you can get that gear. The Internet, for all it's faults, is a fantastic thing.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2024 07:33 PM (vFG9F)

151 Thanks for the pattern company recommendation, they look great and I know where Haberman fabrics is, too!

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at July 06, 2024 07:34 PM (J8OCH)

152 134 ... "I tried to test my home made black powder dusk of the 4th. But just using a blank with a paper wad it clogged up the touch hole so only had 2 flash in the pans. "

Hi Skip,
A few suggestions. Run a pin or wire through the touch hole before adding the priming powder to be sure the channel is clear. Also, the priming powder should be just below the touch hole, not covering it, or it can clog the hole and keep the flame from reaching the main powder charge.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 07:34 PM (zudum)

153 I've bought Heroquest and every expansion. The latest expansion has a jungle theme and gives off strong RE Howard vibes. More than half of the figures have been painted so far. I took them all out of their original boxes and put them into clear bags, and put everything into a 3 gallon tub. Everything is easy to find and playing a game or two should be easy.

Another new board game with unpainted miniatures is Talisman, which arrived today as well.

My shelf of warhammer etcetera unpainted items has filled up. Now I have gone to "first in first out", that the regretful purchases won't sit there forever. Every other day I add one to my painting desk, and it gets done more promptly than the laundry or dishes.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2024 07:36 PM (lhenN)

154 Have a solid wood dresser, no nails or screws, supposedly made by grandfather's grandfather.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 06, 2024 07:37 PM (pT2wV)

155 When we moved into our place, there was a high post, maybe 20' high, set in concrete, with a basketball hoop
and backboard, attached at the appropriate level.

I knew what I wanted to do with this, but I didn't know how to do it. First, got the basketball stuff off of there. Then, research. Turns out there's a whole industry for turning your random high post into a flagpole. So I ordered stuff. Not cheap, but I was on a mission.

The hardest part was getting the ball and hardware up to the top. My neighbor has some workers, and they and I held a ladder firm while the tiniest of the workers went up there and installed the ball. Victory! Now I have the big-ass flag flying, just like I wanted.

Recently, a couple of horses got out from a nearby rodeo. Mrs. Splunge and I went over there, and everyone was sleeping. Rousted somebody and told them to tell the owners that we had their horses. I pointed, and said it was the place with the big flag.

Well, there's a problem with living in Arizona. Lots of places have big flags, and it took them a long time to find us.

Posted by: Splunge at July 06, 2024 07:37 PM (hmKaK)

156 ou know what's great about summers in July on the water? Posted by: Cicero

Not being eaten by gators or sharks and not drowning?

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 07:38 PM (u/wgs)

157 France and Canada have better ones.

Even the Soviet Union did It better.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 06:38 PM (aiCOr)

"Oh Canada" sucks as a song. "The Maple Leaf Forever" is a far better anthem.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 07:38 PM (22XE5)

158 Not being eaten by gators or sharks and not drowning?
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 07:38 PM (u/wgs)

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This barely makes the top 10

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:39 PM (zhMsg)

159 Hi TRex.
Just wanted you to know that I did eventually get here. Love the picture at the top.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)

160 I recognize that airport in the Blue Angels video.
Moffett Field in Mountain View CA.
Not many have a dirigible hangar.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (MeG8a)

161 So still didn't get to try it, ah could just do it some time, not like a occasional gun shot doesn't happen, and wouldn't quite be the same as a rifle or pistol shot

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (fwDg9)

162 I am stalled on my pottery, I have been trying to see if the native clay we have here is good for anything other than brick.
So far, kneading and shaping-wise, it makes a thin-walled tile that I can keep from cracking or shrinking too much, but I can only fire it to earthenware in my fire pit, so my next step is to find someone with a kiln. It is very brittle, and I need someone to tell me what I am doing wrong.

It is also 107 outside so I am drowsing and sweating and waiting for dusk.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (D7oie)

163 159 Hi TRex. Just wanted you to know that I did eventually get here. Love the picture at the top.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)
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Good evening!

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:42 PM (IQ6Gq)

164 160 I recognize that airport in the Blue Angels video.
Moffett Field in Mountain View CA.
Not many have a dirigible hangar.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (MeG8a)

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Shut up. Just, shut up.

Posted by: Tustin at July 06, 2024 07:42 PM (zhMsg)

165 Tustin, CA

Posted by: Tustin at July 06, 2024 07:43 PM (zhMsg)

166 162 I am stalled on my pottery, I have been trying to see if the native clay we have here is good for anything other than brick.
It is also 107 outside so I am drowsing and sweating and waiting for dusk.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (D7oie)
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Other than glass blowing, I can't imagine a hotter hobby.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

167 I'd love a kite that looks like that airplane.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (t/2Uw)

168 Once upon a time the household was thinking about relocating to Palm Springs. Where it was 124 degrees today.
Highest we got today was about 75.
We dodged that one.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (MeG8a)

169 I love my teardrop trailer. I'm out in it every day and it's time to take it out for an overnighter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Good luck on the 1st overnighter and let us know how it goes!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (z/7Ah)

170 Shut up. Just, shut up.
Posted by: Tustin
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This...how many have hangers that can fit three dirigibles?

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

171 Not many have a dirigible hangar.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (MeG8a)

OOHH! Oooh! Oooh!

Posted by: Tillimook Airport at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (D7oie)

172 166 162 I am stalled on my pottery, I have been trying to see if the native clay we have here is good for anything other than brick.
It is also 107 outside so I am drowsing and sweating and waiting for dusk.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:41 PM (D7oie)

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You were going to make me a pot!

Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman at July 06, 2024 07:45 PM (zhMsg)

173 164 Shut up. Just, shut up.

Posted by: Tustin at July 06, 2024 07:42 PM (zhMsg)
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Oof. (Very clever comment. I LOL'd.)

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

174 Tillimook?
Is that where the ice cream comes from?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

175 >>> 56 I do plan on buying several flags the remainder of this year. Smaller ones, 2x3, instead of 3x5. But all historical: Don't Tread On Me, Gonzalez, Alamo, Cowpens, another Navy Jack, Appeal to Heaven, Don't Give Up The Ship. Maybe others. I'm prepping for a run-up to our 250th birthday.
Posted by: GWB at July 06, 2024 06:27 PM (AWrpC)

I've thought of getting a set of smaller flags of all the states I've lived in but I like this idea too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 07:46 PM (llON8)

176
Well, there's a problem with living in Arizona. Lots of places have big flags, and it took them a long time to find us.
Posted by: Splunge

I don't see a problem with a lot of places in AZ flying big flags!
I do pity the horseless rodeo people though!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:47 PM (z/7Ah)

177 >>> 174 Tillimook?
Is that where the ice cream comes from?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

They also make cheese...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 07:47 PM (llON8)

178 Thank you TRex!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:48 PM (z/7Ah)

179 Other than glass blowing, I can't imagine a hotter hobby.
Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

welding. forging

Hey, here is Cody who is insane, making cast iron in a thermite reaction, using beverage cans and aluminum foil and magnetite

I am sure OSHA would have a stroke watching this

https://youtu.be/uC1LTZIVOu0

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:48 PM (D7oie)

180 teardrop trailer. I'm out in it every day and it's time to take it out for an overnighter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Good luck on the 1st overnighter and let us know how it goes!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:44 PM (z/7Ah)

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In P.S., the weather is blistering hot, but they make up for it with all the over-the-top gayness!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 07:49 PM (zhMsg)

181 Nude movies.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 07:49 PM (ANzws)

182 BIL was stationed at Moffett while the 'hanger' was still there and in one piece.
When they closed the hanger doors they could cause 'weather' inside the hanger due to pressure changes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:49 PM (z/7Ah)

183 Hobby related? Well, my hobby is wrenching on stuff, and yesterday I got two new things to wrench on. A Dixon zero-steer mower, "It has some problems", and a John Deere 38" conventional riding mower, partially disassembled. Both have 12.5 HP Kawasaki engines, same as my old trusty Dixon ZTR, whose engine finally bit the biscuit.

So I rolled the JD mower off the trailer, and finished tearing it apart. I did try to start its engine, but no luck. Does seem to have compression, though, and it has oil in it. Got the mower pretty well torn down, and parts gathered up and put away.

So now I had to get the new Dixon ZTR off the trailer, I put a battery in it, fired it up, turned around on the trailer deck, drove it off the ramp, and went mowing. There's not much wrong with it at all. It struggled with the damned Prairie Wool grass, but all mowers choke on that shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 07:50 PM (22XE5)

184 Nude movies.
Posted by: nurse ratchet

We normally call it pron.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:50 PM (z/7Ah)

185 Tillimook?
Is that where the ice cream comes from?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

Yes, they had two blimps stationed there during the war to guard the mouth of the Columbia river.
It is a very nice town, if you ever get the chance to go there.
I used to go out from the Valley to Hebo and up to Tillamook, it is a wonderful drive if you don't go when all the RVs are on the road

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:51 PM (D7oie)

186 Years ago took my then teenage boys to Gettysburg. After watching the video inside we walked out onto the battlefield. Completely unexpected confederate troops started pouring out of the woods below us. It really brought home how up close and personal the battle was.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:51 PM (t/2Uw)

187 176 I don't see a problem with a lot of places in AZ flying big flags!
I do pity the horseless rodeo people though!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 07:47 PM (z/7Ah)

Yeah, people actually like America around here, and I love it. I'm staying put.

You would pity the rodeo people less if you saw the excuse for a fence that they had imagined would keep their horses around. Basically one strand of electric at about 3 1/2 feet off the ground, with flimsy supports.

Posted by: Splunge at July 06, 2024 07:53 PM (hmKaK)

188 I love tillimook cheese. Now I'll have to try the ice cream.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:53 PM (t/2Uw)

189 179 Hey, here is Cody who is insane, making cast iron in a thermite reaction, using beverage cans and aluminum foil and magnetite
https://youtu.be/uC1LTZIVOu0

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 07:48 PM (D7oie)
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Just started watching. Yep - insane.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 07:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

190 IIRC, any honorably discharged veteran is eligible for inurnment at Arlington. Even if you became a Grand-Poobah in the government after military service, the Chaplain will refer to you by your Military rank during the ceremony.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 06, 2024 07:56 PM (r72iY)

191 Great job TRex. you need to create a header with a TRex. Like the monkeys on the morning rant.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 07:57 PM (t/2Uw)

192 The only veterans eligible for Arlington either 1) Retired 2) died while active duty or 3) got a purple heart or more distinguished medal.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2024 08:46 PM (lhenN)

193 MisHum entrust tankdemon for a wake up call?

Posted by: Some Rat at July 06, 2024 10:12 PM (vJiyU)

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