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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07/06/2024 [TheJamesMadison]

William Friedkin


Who is William Friedkin as an artist?

It was the question I started out with when I turned on his first narrative feature film, Good Times, the first film featuring Sonny and Cher, and I was hit with comedy and fakery and artifice. This was the introduction of William Friedkin, director of The French Connection, The Exorcist, and To Live and Die in L.A. to the movie going public. I was already having trouble predicting who he was, and his first film threw me such a curveball that it took me about a dozen movies before I really recovered my line of thinking. You see, I didn't understand what connected his best known films, and a silly, not very funny comedic vehicle for a glorified vaudeville act was a weird way to start the path towards those famous films, especially when anything you hear about his early career is his work as a documentarian.

He started his career for WGN-TV in Chicago where he rose to directing live television and documentaries. He rode that success to Hollywood where he and the singing duet had the same agent leading to his first directing job of a feature film. As a hungry young filmmaker, he took the job he could, especially when matched with a famous couple like Sonny and Cher, and he had a good time making it. He went on to make an adaptation of The Night They Raided Minsky's, a botched production that he abandoned in editing, and jumped at the opportunity to adapt Harold Pinter's play The Birthday Party for the big screen, reportedly the first of his three early projects he had any actual passion for (it was released second because the editor of Minsky's spent almost a year in editing trying to fix it, delaying the release of Friedkin's second produced film).

I think the opening three kind of perfectly encapsulate his whole career, though. It was a mixture of things he signed onto just to work (the C.A.T. Squad television films, The Guardian, Deal of the Century), and projects he was passionate about (Sorcerer, Killer Joe, The French Connection). It's not a particularly unusual pattern for a film director (the whole, "One for them, one for me" pattern), but with Friedkin's output it really does seem to fall in a way that obfuscates where one begins and the other ends.

There end up being a few major threads appearing through it all as the decades went on, Friedkin never finding the kind of unalloyed success outside of the early 70s that would allow him to just make whatever he wanted for the rest of his career. The movies for him, as I see them, tend to have the stronger thematic elements that connect his work. The movies for "them" are more workmanlike with less of a clear stamp on them from Friedkin, allowing writers in particular to come out more fully.

Themes


So, this isn't a distinction between his better movies and his worse ones. It's just kind of obvious where the thematic ideas are more prominent and where they're less. For instance, The Exorcist is arguably one of the greatest films ever made, but I'd argue that it's really just Friedkin in workman mode doing his best to get William Peter Blatty's novel to screen form as cleanly as possible. It feels like Friedkin doing his best on the technical side while trusting in the script by Blatty, based on his novel, to be strong enough on its own. However, that being said, even when it just comes down to Friedkin's choices of which projects to usher to the screen (keep in mind for this particular example that he made The Exorcist the follow-up to his Best Director win on The French Connection), you can see the seeds of the ideas that he was pursuing overall. So, what is it?

I've seen it described as obsession in the main characters, but I don't think that's really correct. It can fit easily with William Peterson's character in To Live and Die in L.A., but does it really fit Blue Chips or The Exorcist or The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial? I don't think it does. I think a better way to summarize the themes that are most present in his work is to say that the pursuit of something changes the pursuer. I was going to phrase it as the pursuit of evil, but there's stuff like Blue Chips that otherwise fit that aren't about pursuing evil but victory, diluting the object of pursuit a bit.

So, how does this manifest? Well, starting with his most famous film, The Exorcist, Father Karras, in having to partake in the exorcism of Regan MacNeil, has to embrace the faith that he's been questioning in order to fight the demon within the girl. He has to completely give himself into it in order to effectively fight it. To Live and Die in L.A. is the portrait of the downfall of an incorruptible federal officer in the face of pursuing a hellishly presented counterfeiter. Rampage is the story of an assistant district attorney who personally opposes the death penalty being forced to pursue it in a heinous trial and coming to defend its use in that particular instance. It's a common thread, and it's interesting when it comes. However, in retrospect, it doesn't quite feel as prominent as something like the idea of identity within in-groups evident so prominently in the works of Martin Scorsese. It might be more of a motif than a driving theme for Friedkin in comparison.

Finding Work


As previously noted, Friedkin's high water mark was the early 70s when his combination of technical skill, pessimism, and thematic focus aligned well with the overall cultural trend of wallowing in realistic misery. His downfall that he never really recovered from was the film Sorcerer which is alternatively the most Friedkin and least Friedkin film he ever made (that whole thematic idea is there, but it's presented in this minimalistic way that he never really came around to embracing again). It was an expensive movie that got completely swamped by the release of Star Wars and its sudden reinvigoration for an appetite for fun escapism. He bounced from smaller project to smaller project, trying to keep his vision of cinema alive, but he increasingly got the reputation as a has-been (Joe Eszterhas really didn't want him for Jade because of that, reportedly, but Friedkin got hired anyway).

This search for work led to a decreasing amount of say Friedkin had in his own projects. By the time he got to Deal of the Century, it really felt like he was there to make sure things were in focus while Chevy Chase exerted total control over everything else. To Live and Die in L.A. feels like something of an aberration in the middle of his downfall, not because it was some huge great success either artistically or commercially (it was the former, not too much of the latter). It's something he really tried to get together, but the director of The Exorcist was only able to pull together $6 million for the production, and it might have made its money back (Hollywood accounting makes it unclear if $17 million at the box office is actually a profit or not).

So, this period is pretty much just Friedkin going from projects he cobbled together with great difficulty and quick hiring jobs he just managed the sets of. In none of them did he meet great financial success, leading to the impression that he was a has-been with his best days behind him. This actually leads me to what might be the most interesting contrast in his career: To Live and Die in L.A. and C.A.T. Squad.

Authority


So, both To Live and Die in L.A. and C.A.T. Squad were written by Gerald Petievich (only the former co-written by Friedkin which, I think, is important). They both have government agents who play by their own rules at the core, but they have vastly different outlooks on that fact. The first is a tragedy as one man becomes a monster. The second is how government agents are completely justified doing absolutely anything anywhere. The first is a feature film that Friedkin obviously worked very hard on, even going so far as to have a writing credit on it (something he had on only six of his twenty-four films), and his thematic concerns come out. The second is a made-for-TV movie with a smaller budget that Friedkin obviously just managed quickly (he also made the sequel, which is honestly a better experience).

As a small case study in how Friedkin's career played out, especially after the failure of Sorcerer, it's an interesting contrast because To Live and Die in L.A. is the film of an artist really trying to make the most of things while C.A.T. Squad is the work of a former federal agent who thinks that he's the hero and can do no wrong. It shows how the director can have all of the power on a set if he so chooses. The first feels like Friedkin working hard to take a starting point and make it his own while the former is just Friedkin using himself to help a writer he liked.

Now, I did make mention of the sequel to C.A.T. Squad, C.A.T. Squad: Python Wolf, and it's okay. The first film is a boring slog where the badass central character is actually a complete screw up and monster, but the second is more of a straight-forward rescue mission that works decently well. I wouldn't call it good, but it's decent.

Theater


To Live and Die in L.A. represents some kind of turning point in his career. It feels like the last time he could pull together a relatively big production on his own terms (or as close to his own terms as one can have in that world) while he went from even smaller films that he could manage to pull together (something like the courtroom drama Rampage) to hired hands on productions that needed his name (The Guardian and Jade). It's not that his output was lesser artistically than it had been before (well, it was, he was never getting close to The Exorcist again), but the fire in him seemed to have gone out. He was becoming an older man, increasingly divorced from the passion that drove him to seek out Harold Pinter to make an adaptation of his play The Birthday Party.
Out of Friedkin's twenty-four feature films (including his four made for television films), six are based on stage plays with five of those being adapted from play form to their screenplays by the original authors of the plays (I imagine he would have gotten Herman Wouk to do the adaptation for The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial in 2023, but Wouk died in 2019). He has four courtroom dramas to his name (well, one's pretty much just in a jury room). However, it combines to tell me that Friedkin not only loved theater, but he loved actors in particular. Looking up his extra-cinematic activities, he actually directed more than a dozen productions of opera on stage, too. How does that combine with stuff like Sorcerer which is almost purely cinematic?

Most of those stage adaptations end up happening in the latter part of Friedkin's career, though, and they feel like cheaper ways to make what he was interested in making. He was still somehow getting funds for the larger picture here or there like The Hunted which cost $55 million, but each big bet was a big loss (The Hunted only made $46 million at the box office). He was increasingly sidelined, and he found a way to keep doing the kinds of films he wanted to make.

The big focus of the very tail end of his career was two adaptations of plays by Tracy Letts, Bug and Killer Joe. The former has the distinction of being one of only a handful of films with an F Cinemascore (I also don't like it) while Killer Joe is this deeply black comedy that I get into. However, despite their low cost, they were still financial duds (especially the second), and it seemed like Friedkin's filmmaking career was over. He increased his time talking about his movies like Frank Capra in his later years (the best is Friedkin's interview with Nicholas Winding Refn where Friedkin just will not let Refn's ego pass). He somehow got the funding in the final year of his life to make an adaptation of the play The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial (with the added interesting bonus that Guillermo del Toro was the backup director on set everyday for insurance purposes). It's an accomplished, actor-focused film that sent Friedkin out on a high note, though he died shortly before the film's streaming release (as did co-star Lance Reddick).

Legacy


Out of everything mentioned, I still assume that the only films people will equate with Friedkin will be The French Connection and The Exorcist. To Live and Die in L.A. is simply not widely known enough while his other stuff like Blue Chips or Rules of Engagement or The Hunted. It makes you wonder if there is some strong authorial streak there at all, much less one to mention in great detail. Well, I do think it's there. I think it got undermined by the fact that Friedkin kept making financial bomb after financial bomb from the late 70s onward. That sidetracked his ability to command larger budgets and to exert command over a filmset (playing second fiddle to Chevy Chase, for instance).

He saw Francis Ford Coppola as his main rival, of a sort, at his height, and Coppola went through a similar crash and burn, but I see more overall command from Coppola over the different aspects of production. Friedkin's writing is questionable (To Live and Die in L.A. is the best of them, but it's unclear how much is him and how much is Petievich). His efforts at experimentation in films like Cruising are never huge successes. His strongest ability is the purely technical side of directing, managing a set and working with cinematographers to get effective and sometimes even very beautiful imagery while getting strong performances from actors.

He was really more of a classical machine director, I think. There was what some would call the auteur in him (I still hate the term, but it's useful), mostly in the running theme that came up time and time again, but ultimately he ends up feeling more like the guy who's there to shepherd the script as it is through production before handing it off to the editor. Would it have been different had Sorcerer been a financial success? If he had been able to go from victory to victory, exerting more control over his films as he got older? Impossible to say, but as his career continued downward, it really did feel like his films were going to be good or bad based purely on the scripts, like he was disengaging to a degree and just managing sets.

The ultimate question, though, is this: Is his career worth discovering beyond the most well known films? I think there are gems. Killer Joe for those who can find humor in the worst of humanity. Rule of Engagement for those looking for a solid legal/military courtroom drama. The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial for a very good final go from a director who's best years were well behind him. Sorcerer for one of the great, depressing, nihilistic thrillers of the 70s. But, that being said, his career is shockingly uneven. I haven't seen a filmography this uneven since John McTiernan released Rollerball.

Still, he was pretty good.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Despicable Me 4

MaXXXine

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

The Guardian (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "There's not enough story without that mystery to justify the runtime, and it's mostly just a well-filmed and kind of boring film. With the final five minutes, though, it's all of that but ends with a real bang." [Library]

Blue Chips (Rating 3/4) Full Review "However, it's the best movie Friedkin had made in years, the first since To Lie and Die in L.A. that feels fully his (though Rampage is honestly kind of close), and anchored by a wonderful central performance from Nolte." [Personal Collection]

Jade (Rating 1/4) Full Review "At least Friedkin knew how to frame a shot through it all, though. It's nice that the nonsense was in focus and well-composed as it played out." [The Criterion Channel]

Rules of Engagement (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Friedkin had what could have been one of his best films of his career, but he (or his producers, I dunno) gave into the demands to make things cleaner in a story about messiness." [Library]

The Hunted (Rating 2/4) Full Review "I don't think I've wanted to rewrite a movie more." [Library]

Bug (Rating 1/4) Full Review "It's ugly, comes to pretty much no point (paranoid delusions are bad, I guess), and doesn't actually feel like it uses the tools of cinema to drive its point home." [Library]

Killer Joe (Rating 3/4) Full Review "This movie is trash. It's about stupid, terrible people being awful, plotting murder, doing it badly, inviting the devil into their home, and then paying the consequences when everything goes pear-shaped. It's also deeply, darkly humorous in a way that connects with my own sense of humor." [Library]

The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's an accomplished, late-stage movie from a filmmaker who understood filmmaking after decades of practicing it, using his final go as a celebration of actors, a look into how pursuing something can change the pursuer, and the murky space of morality in the face of extreme duress." [Paramount+]

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Comments

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1 *pops popcorn *

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 07:47 PM (ANzws)

2 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2024 07:49 PM (bJGD1)

3 Check your email, nurse. 😄

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2024 07:49 PM (bJGD1)

4 Movie thread!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 06, 2024 07:53 PM (Ka3bZ)

5 From Hobby thread:

Nude movies.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Movie thread and boob thread all in one?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2024 07:53 PM (WXNFJ)

6 Not gonna lie...I want to see the new Despicable Me flick. Those amuse me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2024 07:53 PM (bJGD1)

7 I finished watching Nefarious on prime today.
Really impressed with it.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 06, 2024 07:54 PM (Ka3bZ)

8 Grand Prix with James Gardner is coming on, might stay up to watch some of it, not that haven't seen it 20 times

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 07:56 PM (fwDg9)

9 William Friedkin also directed the music video for the Laura Branigan song “Self-Control” of all things.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:57 PM (8sMut)

10 Space:1999 “Missing Link” is on now. I want to know what the writers and production crew were on for that one.

Next is GUARDIAN OF PIRI!!!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 07:58 PM (8sMut)

11 I still have a couple of Friedkin to re-watch but I want to weigh in on who Friedkin 'was' as a director.

Basically...he's a professional director. Which means he runs the show, works with the actors (quite well) but he's not a creative visionary. He stumbled into greatness with the French Connection and then hit the big time with The Exorcist...which was really more a result of the writing. (So William Peter Blatty gets most of the credit for the stuff that stuck with you. Seriously, check out Exorcist 3, the one he directed. It's solid)

He does have some ideas but they're murky and subtle and I think TJM is accurate in saying it's about the exploration and pursuit of an object or person changing a person...but I don't feel that's much to hang onto a director.

The guy knew his business and 'went along to get along' doing a lot of work that I can't see being part of any vision. He wasn't Tarantino or Scorsese, but he was solid. He made movies well, though not always good movies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 07:59 PM (xcxpd)

12 Years ago, I read The Caine Mutiny. I understand it was made into a movie in the 1950s. Has anyone here seen it and what do they think?

I had forgotten about that Friedkin worked on his own version for his final project.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:00 PM (8sMut)

13 I saw a long interview show with Friedkin on I believe TCM several months ago. Don't know whether that's the interview you're talking about above but he was interesting enough to keep me watching the whole thing. Didn't know his last wife was Sherry Lansing.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:00 PM (oaGWv)

14 11: translation: Friedkin was no auteur.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:01 PM (8sMut)

15 The best chase scene ever filmed is in To Live and Die.

The second-best is in French Connection.

Compared to those, Bullitt, Dirty Harry, James Bond etc. are all low-risk, low-reward. Friedkin shot those scenes last for a reason.

Posted by: Tom Perry at July 06, 2024 08:02 PM (MX0bI)

16 11 The guy knew his business and 'went along to get along' doing a lot of work that I can't see being part of any vision. He wasn't Tarantino or Scorsese, but he was solid. He made movies well, though not always good movies.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 07:59 PM (xcxpd)

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He saw his main competitor, so to speak, as Copolla. I think he at least originally saw himself as an auteur (I hate that word), but his string of failures made him into a machine guy.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:03 PM (Dz4+H)

17 Herman Wouk lived to 104. I was surprised news of his passing in 2019 was just slipped over the transom considering his writing prowess.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:03 PM (8sMut)

18 Watched a movie called: "Age of Adeline" with the absolutely stunning Blake Lively in the lead role, and Harrison Ford, as well

Woman has dramatic event that causes her to stop aging at 37, lives another 70 years in what turns out to be a pretty lonely life. But, happy ending is in the offing.

I really enjoyed it, though the premise was very silly, mostly because Blake Lively is very beautiful and a decent actress. She's been in some interesting films, another which I would recommend being called: "The Rhythm Section."

Posted by: Sharkman at July 06, 2024 08:03 PM (/RHNq)

19 Friedkin proved that being a local weatherman has a future.

Then Bob Iger proved the opposite.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 08:04 PM (zhMsg)

20 13 I saw a long interview show with Friedkin on I believe TCM several months ago. Don't know whether that's the interview you're talking about above but he was interesting enough to keep me watching the whole thing. Didn't know his last wife was Sherry Lansing.
Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:00 PM (oaGWv)

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He did a long interview with Fritz Lang in the 70s. That's worth finding on YouTube. He was a good interviewer.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:04 PM (Dz4+H)

21 Those amuse me.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I live the minions

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 06, 2024 08:05 PM (Ka3bZ)

22 The one nugget I found interesting was Freidkin starting his career ar WGN in Chicago.

I'd guess that was sometime in the seventies.

Chicago at that time was a cultural leader.

There was Bozo, SCTV and Steve Dahl on AM radio.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:07 PM (+K+vL)

23 Like paintings and painters I think evaluating movies and directors based on whether you can tell immediately that it's their work is part of that evaluation. Uniqueness has its own quality.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:07 PM (SHMXB)

24 TJM, your next post is today? The discourse on Friedkin is excellent.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2024 08:07 PM (9XWKq)

25 He had a 70's directing aesthetic that pretty much never changed.

You have to give massive respect to that kind of integrity and sheer willpower to direct well into your 80's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:07 PM (XV/Pl)

26 dude you haven't seen The Caine Mutiny?

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 08:08 PM (/7KEl)

27 Only saw some of these in thread, would like to see Caine Mutiny Trial as the original movie if great, the book is fantastic

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:08 PM (fwDg9)

28 'It's So Fluffy !' has been my text notification since the first Despicable Me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:09 PM (SHMXB)

29 He saw his main competitor, so to speak, as Copolla. I think he at least originally saw himself as an auteur (I hate that word), but his string of failures made him into a machine guy.
Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:03 PM (Dz4+H)

Well him hitting the big time around the same time as Coppola, that makes sense. But Coppola could write and he did have an authorial voice, even if I think John Millius carried him for Apocalypse Now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:09 PM (xcxpd)

30 Evening.

I'm about to put on The Devil And Daniel Webster but I just got back from dinner and I'm...digesting.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:09 PM (1Yy3c)

31 He did a long interview with Fritz Lang in the 70s. That's worth finding on YouTube. He was a good interviewer.
Posted by: TJM's phone

He talked about that Lang interview during the TCM show I watched. Parts of it were shown.

Friedkin was also a good interviewee. Very easy going and chatty.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:09 PM (oaGWv)

32 Saw the latest minion movie on Wednesday...loved hearing the giggles from the kids in the theater...

Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 08:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

33 24 TJM, your next post is today? The discourse on Friedkin is excellent.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2024 08:07 PM (9XWKq)

He's wrong about some movies but he has a lot of thoughts about them on his website. Check it out!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:10 PM (xcxpd)

34 Rules of Engagement was kino. Far better than Syriana or The Siege.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:11 PM (gKWVE)

35 29
Well him hitting the big time around the same time as Coppola, that makes sense. But Coppola could write and he did have an authorial voice, even if I think John Millius carried him for Apocalypse Now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:09 PM (xcxpd)

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The guy who originated, "It's about family," was Copolla. Almost all of his films are about family. Even, apparently, Megalopolis, which I am very eager to see.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:11 PM (Dz4+H)

36 26 dude you haven't seen The Caine Mutiny?
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 08:08 PM (/7KEl)

No. But I have read the book. I have it in a place of prominence along with The Winds of War and War and Remembrance (both made into miniseries that became one of Those Moments to which I referred to earlier).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:12 PM (8sMut)

37 The Exorcist is one of my all-time favorite movies.

The opening ten minute sequence in Iraq is ten of the best minutes ever put on film.

The whole movie is excellent.

If you watch the interview with Friedkin and Blatty on the divvy-dee it's obvious that they don't like each other much.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:12 PM (1Yy3c)

38 33 He's wrong about some movies but he has a lot of thoughts about them on his website. Check it out!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:10 PM (xcxpd)

===

Mostly, he's an asshole, though.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:12 PM (Dz4+H)

39 Just finished watching Gone Baby Gone .

Is it weird that Ben Affleck has directed as many great films as Friedkin?

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:13 PM (SHMXB)

40 If you watch the interview with Friedkin and Blatty on the divvy-dee it's obvious that they don't like each other much.
Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:12 PM (1Yy3c)

They gave each other shit a lot but I felt they had a lot of respect for each other under all the disagreements.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:13 PM (xcxpd)

41 WGN = World’s Greatest Newspaper

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:13 PM (8sMut)

42 For all that don't know Howard Stern was a knockoff of Steve Dahl.

Only because he was in New York did he become a bigger star.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:14 PM (+K+vL)

43 Is it weird that Ben Affleck has directed as many great films as Friedkin?
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:13 PM (SHMXB)

Scary...but possibly true

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 06, 2024 08:14 PM (xcxpd)

44 Rules Of Engagement was this really good movie with a really shit ending. I think. Or that was my feeling at the time I saw it and I only saw it once when it came out in theaters.

Even if it's not the main point of the movie it gives a fairly honest assessment of the scumbaggery involved in the Middle East.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:15 PM (1Yy3c)

45 39 Just finished watching Gone Baby Gone .

Is it weird that Ben Affleck has directed as many great films as Friedkin?
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:13 PM (SHMXB)

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Affleck is pretty good at filmmaking, for sure. I don't think he's made anything as good as The Exorcist, Sorcerer, or To Live and Die in L.A., though.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:15 PM (Dz4+H)

46 Blue Chips was also good although I haven't seen it since 1994. It stuck in my head.
Friedkin was not "P.C." as it was called then.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:15 PM (gKWVE)

47 Checked TCM and the documentary I saw was "Friedkin Uncut". It was made in 2018. Well worth watching if TCM ever runs it again.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:16 PM (oaGWv)

48 I have 'To Live and Die in LA' on DVD. I'd like to get 'Sorcerer', at some point. I liked it. It's one of those movies you watch every few years. It's a bit intense. I really liked Roy Scheider though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:16 PM (rii+a)

49 I was thinking Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo. Actually that's all the movies I know Affleck directed.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:17 PM (SHMXB)

50 I'm not sure Friedkin has any kind of visual style that would mark his films.

David Lynch's films are unmistakable, and David Fincher has a recognizable style as well. Coppola certainly in his big films. And early Ridley Scott. You can start watching in the middle of their films and recognize the voice.

Friedkin? I haven't seen enough of his work to make that judgement.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:17 PM (CHHv1)

51 In other news views.

Watched Godzilla: Final Wars today. That movie is batshit insane. Shit keeps happening at a kind of crazy pace while most of the human action scenes are shameless knockoffs from other movies.

Godzilla plays soccer with Anguirus.

I think the editor was doing massive amounts of cocaine.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:18 PM (1Yy3c)

52 48 I have 'To Live and Die in LA' on DVD. I'd like to get 'Sorcerer', at some point. I liked it. It's one of those movies you watch every few years. It's a bit intense. I really liked Roy Scheider though.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:16 PM (rii+a)

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Kino released To Live on 4k last year.

Apparently, their experience working with Friedkin was so bad that they dropped Bug from their release schedule, but then he died and they tried to get the license back. I think they failed.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:18 PM (Dz4+H)

53 I didn't know Friedkin was called in for "Jade", heh. I think the critics pinned that dog on Esterhaszbeen, which allowed Friedkin to go on and do "12 Angry Men" (and "Rules of Engagement").

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:19 PM (gKWVE)

54 polynikes: your next assignment is "Gone Girl". A brilliant portrait of marriage to a sociopath (and it's not Affleck)

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:20 PM (gKWVE)

55 Blue Chips is the one with Shaq, right?

I saw it as a kid just because of the novelty of seeing a big name basketball player star in a movie. I don't even like basketball, not then and not now.

I remember fuck all about it except maybe something involving point shaving?

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:21 PM (1Yy3c)

56 Compare the balls-out frenetic car chase in "To Live and Die in L.A. with the terrifying slow crawl of the trucks carrying the explosives through the jungle in "Sorcerer".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2024 08:21 PM (kpS4V)

57 Jade was really bad. Caruso as a leading man could never have worked in any movie.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:22 PM (+K+vL)

58 I was thinking Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo. Actually that's all the movies I know Affleck directed.
Posted by: polynikes

Poor Ben. Now all he's known for his his marriage to JLo.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:22 PM (oaGWv)

59 A lot of "boutique" DVD labels are having sales. Criterion has %50 off (through Barnes and Noble). Kino Lorber has a bunch of stuff, and Arrow and Vinegar Syndrome have some stuff as well.

I ordered a bunch of W.C. Fields films and the 4K Reptilicus.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (CHHv1)

60 Robert, yeah, and also the basketball students were clearly working for "friends of the program", and weren't good students. Also the "friends of the program" had got jobs for their families. Pretty frightening.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (gKWVE)

61 Hit and run post. Saw Dune II on the plane going to Europe. Small screen with captions. Liked it a lot, the subtitles helped follow the action. Still do not care for the actress playing Chani. Ok, that's my contribution to a movie thread for the next 2 years, possibly longer.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (2NHgQ)

62 I need to watch The Town again. I think that's Affleck's best movie both acting and directing.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (SHMXB)

63 @33 Thanks, MAE, I enjoy TJM's website.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (9XWKq)

64 Godzilla plays soccer with Anguirus.

I think the editor was doing massive amounts of cocaine.
Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:18 PM (1Yy3c)
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In"Godzilla vs the Smog Monster", I think it was LSD.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2024 08:24 PM (kpS4V)

65 57 Jade was really bad. Caruso as a leading man could never have worked in any movie.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:22 PM (+K+vL)

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Caruso gets a lot of shit for that, but I think he's okay. He's not terrible in it. He's fine. Passable.

The embarrassingly bad performance is by Linda Fiorentino. She's hilariously terrible.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:24 PM (Dz4+H)

66 Caruso as a leading man in anything is a bad idea. He's fine in a support role.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:25 PM (rii+a)

67 62 I need to watch The Town again. I think that's Affleck's best movie both acting and directing.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (SHMXB)

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The last time I watched it, I said to myself, "This needs a longer cut."

But I never wrote anything about it because I had consciously chosen to watch the theatrical cut rather than the Director's cut.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (Dz4+H)

68 Speaking of point shaving movies, I really liked Mark Wahlburg's remake of The Gambler and better than a Caan's original. From reviews I'm in the minority though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (SHMXB)

69 Poor Ben. Now all he's known for his his marriage to JLo.


And to MATT DAMON.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (rii+a)

70 Linda Fiorentino was good in "Dogma" but apparently Kevin Smith thought she was terrible to work with.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (gKWVE)

71 I saw Caine Mutiny 20 times at least before I got the book. As said for as great as movie is, probably in my top 10 war movies, the book is better. If only read book probably still would see the movie its so good

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (fwDg9)

72 Haven't seen Killer Joe yet; may get around to it soon. To Live and Die in LA is a delight, as is Sorceror. I liked The Hunted too although I couldn't help thinking that the notion that Jones and del Toro would be hunkered down during the final chase making their own knives seemed a bit far-fetched.

If memory serves, at one point Friedkin and Harlan Ellison had discussed a possible film of Ellison's "The Whimper of Whipped Dogs." And there was presumably discussion of Friedkin filming Robert Silverberg's novel The Book of Skulls. I would have been the first kid on my block in line at the box office cash in hand to see those.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 08:27 PM (q3u5l)

73 I saw both French Connection and The Exorcist before I was 10 years old. I remember being so scared I got the shakey jakes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:27 PM (RIvkX)

74 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (CHHv1)

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:28 PM (1Yy3c)

75 Saw the latest minion movie on Wednesday...loved hearing the giggles from the kids in the theater...
Posted by: Grateful at July 06, 2024 08:10 PM

When my goddaughters were little and use the line:

"Pretty pleeeease...."

I loved responding with:

"The physical appearance of the please makes no difference...it is still no."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2024 08:28 PM (bJGD1)

76 IMDB says Fiorentino pretty much quit getting work after 2002 so, yeah, looks like the word went out that she was a pain in the ass.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:28 PM (gKWVE)

77 Francoise Hardy just died last month

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:29 PM (fwDg9)

78 Caruso as a leading man in anything is a bad idea. He's fine in a support role.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:25 PM (rii+a)

His remake of Kiss of Death in the.Victor Mature role was pretty good . But in general I agree with you.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:29 PM (SHMXB)

79 Linda in Jade is hot. Thats all she needed to be. The role didn't call for much more.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:30 PM (+K+vL)

80 Caruso as a leading man in anything is a bad idea. He's fine in a support role.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 08:25 PM (rii+a)

He was fine on the small screen.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:30 PM (oaGWv)

81 76 IMDB says Fiorentino pretty much quit getting work after 2002 so, yeah, looks like the word went out that she was a pain in the ass.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:28 PM (gKWVE)

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Smith got his start with Weinstein.

Weinstein's cue for women who wouldn't tolerate his advances was "difficult to work with".

Any actress labeled that way probably turned him down. Smith would not surprise me as being like Weinstein.

Lots of supposition, but I'd be surprised if I was far off.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:30 PM (Dz4+H)

82 Oops.

Uh, once more with feeling...
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Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (CHHv1)

I'm narrowing down an order for Criterion.

I'm thinking Scanners, for sure, The Blob, possibly and one more. Out not The Blob something else. Something horror-y.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:31 PM (1Yy3c)

83 12 Years ago, I read The Caine Mutiny. I understand it was made into a movie in the 1950s. Has anyone here seen it and what do they think?

I had forgotten about that Friedkin worked on his own version for his final project.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:00 PM (8sMut)

++++

It's a classic. Bogie has the lead and Fred MacMurray plays a real weasel.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 06, 2024 08:32 PM (klJTj)

84 Still do not care for the actress playing Chani. Ok, that's my contribution to a movie thread for the next 2 years, possibly longer.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 08:23 PM (2NHgQ)

Zendaya, the master of RBF.

Guardian of Piri is on now. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:32 PM (8sMut)

85 82
I'm narrowing down an order for Criterion.

I'm thinking Scanners, for sure, The Blob, possibly and one more. Out not The Blob something else. Something horror-y.
Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:31 PM (1Yy3c)

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I'm keeping myself to just the Criterion flash sales on their site.

Rack up the points. Effectively 10% cash back.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:32 PM (Dz4+H)

86 Caruso was great in King of New York and NYPD Blue, he was born to play a cop/detective.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:32 PM (XV/Pl)

87 TJM, Smith now hates Weinstein on account Weinstein is holding up "Dogma" from a reissue/remaster, out of spite.
I don't know if Smith was ever That Guy. We're hearing this about Gaiman now, though.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

88 Robert,

If you're thinking something horror from Criterion, give Eyes Without a Face a look. If you're thinking 50s type monster movie a la The Blob, check out First Man into Space. Nice stuff.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (q3u5l)

89 Caruso had to shed his wimpy role in Rambo First Blood.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (SHMXB)

90 Great scene at the end of The Caine Mutiny when Jose Ferrer crashes a party

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 08:34 PM (/7KEl)

91 87 TJM, Smith now hates Weinstein on account Weinstein is holding up "Dogma" from a reissue/remaster, out of spite.
I don't know if Smith was ever That Guy. We're hearing this about Gaiman now, though.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

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Yeah, Dogma's current state is weird. Out of print for over a decade.

Some people would rather make no money than only some money. The producer of Dawn of the Dead is like that, too.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:35 PM (Dz4+H)

92 You should hear Adam Carolla talk about Keven Smith.

On that note, highly recommend both of Carolla's self produced movies, The Hammer and Road Hard.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (SHMXB)

93 86 Caruso was great in King of New York and NYPD Blue, he was born to play a cop/detective.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

CSI: Miami too.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (oaGWv)

94 I saw "The Exorcist" as an adult, so the shock value was nil, but I did experience MAD Magazine's "The Ecchorcist". William Friedkin makes an appearance at a cocktail party:

https://tinyurl.com/4nkjmtcm

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (kpS4V)

95 >>>Caruso had to shed his wimpy role in Rambo First Blood.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (SHMXB)

Lol.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (+K+vL)

96 Hi there, movie folk.

Posted by: Texicanette at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (SNf74)

97 ah yes, "The Exorcist Barf Bag, contains 1 big barf"

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:37 PM (gKWVE)

98 Thx TJM. I always have thought that Sorcerer was a very good movie. None of the characters were particularly likeable but the differences in personalities makes for a good tense movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2024 08:38 PM (aYD2Z)

99 Another week with no mention of the cinematic masterpiece that is Summer School. Sad.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 06, 2024 08:38 PM (u73oe)

100 98 Thx TJM. I always have thought that Sorcerer was a very good movie. None of the characters were particularly likeable but the differences in personalities makes for a good tense movie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2024 08:38 PM (aYD2Z)

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If you haven't yet, do check out the original version, Wages of Fear, by Henri-Georges Clouzot.

It might be even better.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:39 PM (Dz4+H)

101 All I want to know is:
Do you pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?

-Popeye Doyle in The French Connection
French Connection chase scene rivals Bullet IMHO...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:41 PM (o3Uyl)

102 Eh, not really a fan of Cronenberg, but I understand people like his work.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:42 PM (CHHv1)

103 Speaking of Bullitt, if you're into movie scores, listen to Lalo Schifrin's score

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (/7KEl)

104 If you're thinking something horror from Criterion, give Eyes Without a Face a look. If you're thinking 50s type monster movie a la The Blob, check out First Man into Space. Nice stuff.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 08:33 PM (q3u5l)

Eyes Without A Face is excellent.

Ima look that other one up.

Anywho...

Off to watch Devil And Daniel Webster.

Yall take care now, y'hear?!?

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (1Yy3c)

105 102 Eh, not really a fan of Cronenberg, but I understand people like his work.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:42 PM (CHHv1)

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I'm very mixed on him. Hated The Brood. Kind of love Videodrome.

I did recently get eXistenZ, the 4K from Vinegar Syndrome. Probably my favorite of his work.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (Dz4+H)

106 102 Eh, not really a fan of Cronenberg, but I understand people like his work.

He has a son.
His son's work is even MORE messed up.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (gKWVE)

107 Watching "Creature," an 80's "Alien" rip-off (with Klaus Kinski and Simone from Pee Wee's Big Adventure). It's fun and stupid, but it was produced by "Trans World Entertainment."

Holy crap, they predicted Summer 2024!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (CHHv1)

108 I saw Caine Mutiny 20 times at least before I got the book. As said for as great as movie is, probably in my top 10 war movies, the book is better. If only read book probably still would see the movie its so good
Posted by: Skip


It was the strawberries, wasn't it?

Posted by: Philip Queeg at July 06, 2024 08:44 PM (tjZg/)

109 Bee-do, bee-do, bee-do, bee-do, etc.

Posted by: Carl at July 06, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 Calling it a night
Hope everyone has a great evening

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:46 PM (fwDg9)

111 I saw a 50's American film about men transporting dangerous cargo across the desert -- does this ring a bell for anyone? It was a good flick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2024 08:46 PM (kpS4V)

112 I had the key to the mess room

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:47 PM (fwDg9)

113 How do directors get paid? Do they get a piece of the action? I have no idea.

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at July 06, 2024 08:47 PM (GPtBB)

114 I'm going to say it.

Big chase scenes in movies are more often than not a bunch of hot garbage.

A waste of time usually.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:47 PM (+K+vL)

115 Thanks for the movie thread, TJM. I enjoy your work.

I caught Spirit of St. Louis with Jimmy Stewart today on TCM. Fun.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 08:48 PM (CWMF2)

116 French Connection chase scene rivals Bullet IMHO...
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!

I think it was all filmed in "one take", and the borough of Brooklyn did not actually give them permission to do it. Or maybe I am thinking of another chase scene in that area?

I have actually driven on those streets, under the elevated train (I do not live in or near New York City); it is actually pretty wild place to do a car chase.

Posted by: "Popeye" Doyle at July 06, 2024 08:48 PM (tjZg/)

117 Hope everyone has a great evening
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:46 PM (fwDg9)
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Taking MiL out to dinner so...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:49 PM (RIvkX)

118 My opinion on Cronenberg: he comes up with an incredibly brilliant concept, and makes a mediocre movie out of it.

Videodrome is possibly his best...although he made it about two decades too early to predict people's addition to screens.

I watched Scanners recently. It struck me that, right after the most famous scene, there's a wide shot of the stage and no evidence of any body at all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2024 08:49 PM (CHHv1)

119 Like the movie Serpico the French Connection was a true story that referenced the NYPD in Pre Rudy Guliani NYC

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:50 PM (o3Uyl)

120 115 I caught Spirit of St. Louis with Jimmy Stewart today on TCM. Fun.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 08:48 PM (CWMF2)

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Thank you!

That film is the last Billy Wilder film that Billy Wilder ever made. Pretty good, though.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:50 PM (Dz4+H)

121 I think the thong about rules is thar hodges and the vietnamese officer rsspect each other in their own way guy pierces officer one doesnt really respect because hes a cog in the system

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (PXvVL)

122 116 I think it was all filmed in "one take", and the borough of Brooklyn did not actually give them permission to do it. Or maybe I am thinking of another chase scene in that area?

I have actually driven on those streets, under the elevated train (I do not live in or near New York City); it is actually pretty wild place to do a car chase.
Posted by: "Popeye" Doyle at July 06, 2024 08:48 PM (tjZg/)

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It couldn't be one take. Too much back and forth for that.

But it was without permission. Extremely dangerous.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (Dz4+H)

123 Loved the French Connection, but after watching it recently, it's wildly and I do mean wildly dated.

Which really takes you out of the enjoyment of the film a bit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)

124 The chase scene in French Connection holds together better than the one in Bullitt which is very disjointed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (RIvkX)

125 123 Loved the French Connection, but after watching it recently, it's wildly and I do mean wildly dated.

Which really takes you out of the enjoyment of the film a bit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)

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I find it a fairly generic procedural and time capsule. It's pretty good. Overrated, though.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:52 PM (Dz4+H)

126
I have actually driven on those streets, under the elevated train (I do not live in or near New York City); it is actually pretty wild place to do a car chase.
Posted by: "Popeye" Doyle at July 06, 2024 08:48 PM (tjZg/)

Yeah Popeye under the El is where it took place.. That was a hell of a chase with or without permission.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:53 PM (o3Uyl)

127

The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial (2023)

Takes place during the Gulf War. So, modern Navy.
At least that's what I gathered from the comments on IMDB.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 08:53 PM (63Dwl)

128 124 The chase scene in French Connection holds together better than the one in Bullitt which is very disjointed.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (RIvkX)

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Do you think that's because you know SF so well as a resident?

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:53 PM (Dz4+H)

129 I'm going to say it.

Big chase scenes in movies are more often than not a bunch of hot garbage.

A waste of time usually.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:47 PM (+K+vL)

Yes. Chaotic, overdone, and generally too damn long.

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at July 06, 2024 08:54 PM (GPtBB)

130 123 Loved the French Connection, but after watching it recently, it's wildly and I do mean wildly dated.

Which really takes you out of the enjoyment of the film a bit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)

- Rudy Guliani has entered the chat.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (o3Uyl)

131 @125

>>I find it a fairly generic procedural and time capsule. It's pretty good. Overrated, though.

The Seven-Ups is better.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (XV/Pl)

132 Most chase scenes in movies are preposterous.

They would end it the first 20 to 30 seconds.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (+K+vL)

133 Did someone mention car chase scenes? We're on a mission from God.

Posted by: Jake and Elwood Blues at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

134 Like the movie Serpico the French Connection was a true story that referenced the NYPD in Pre Rudy Guliani NYC
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:50 PM (o3Uyl)

I tend to take Serpico a little less serious now since I learned that Frank Serpico is a big time Lefty.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (SHMXB)

135 71 I saw Caine Mutiny 20 times at least before I got the book. As said for as great as movie is, probably in my top 10 war movies, the book is better. If only read book probably still would see the movie its so good
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 08:26 PM (fwDg9)


I'll have to see the movie, then. The book did not stick with me in the way that Winds of War did, but I thought it was very good. Strangely disjoint, though, it was like reading a murder mystery where the last chapter was all about how the murderer was not actually such a bad guy and was probably better than you, the reader.

Posted by: Splunge at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (hmKaK)

136 Close Encounters and The Day the Earth Stood Still are on TCM tonight.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:56 PM (oaGWv)

137 93 86 Caruso was great in King of New York and NYPD Blue, he was born to play a cop/detective.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

CSI: Miami too.
Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2024 08:36 PM (oaGWv)

NYPD Blue Viewer Discretion Advised

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:56 PM (8sMut)

138 Do you think that's because you know SF so well as a resident?
Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:53 PM (Dz4+H)
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Oh yeah, we all talk about it all the time. Ruins the whole chase because the cuts are really jolting from very different parts of the city.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:57 PM (RIvkX)

139 Cronenberg -- strange, strange stuff. One of his better flicks, though, is A History of Violence; if you're not into his body horror pictures that one's worth checking out.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 08:57 PM (q3u5l)

140 I'm not a fan of explosions and car chases either. Though I will admit to liking the one in Ronin.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:57 PM (SHMXB)

141 I feel like a real low culture person when chase scenes are discussed, because I've seen the ones in Bullitt and French Connection, and my reaction is now "yeah, those are nice, but have you seen the one in Matrix 2?"

Posted by: Splunge at July 06, 2024 08:58 PM (hmKaK)

142 My uncle who was a cop in the Bronx, and married the Police Commissioners daughter, and became a Lieutenant, said Serpico was scumbag and traitor. So I assume the movie was mostly true.

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at July 06, 2024 08:58 PM (GPtBB)

143 133 Did someone mention car chase scenes? We're on a mission from God.
Posted by: Jake and Elwood Blues at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

Goldeneye. The chase through St. Petersburg with Bond in the tank.

I want a chick to look at me the way Nataliya looks at Bond.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 08:58 PM (8sMut)

144 Cronenberg -- strange, strange stuff. One of his better flicks, though, is A History of Violence; if you're not into his body horror pictures that one's worth checking out.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 08:57 PM (q3u

Yes that's pretty good . I liked Eastern Promises better though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:59 PM (SHMXB)

145 138
Oh yeah, we all talk about it all the time. Ruins the whole chase because the cuts are really jolting from very different parts of the city.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:57 PM (RIvkX)

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The best movie fan is someone who lives in a country with no interesting history in a job no one cares out. His expertise will never be challenged by a director saying, "I know these two parts of the city aren't next to each other, but the action scene will be so much cooler if we make them so in the edit."

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 08:59 PM (Dz4+H)

146 Now the embassy scene isnt really accurate in real life its a heavily fortified compound up on a hill they did try to bomb it in 2008 though killed eight people

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:00 PM (PXvVL)

147 Gotta jet MiL is waiting.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 09:00 PM (RIvkX)

148 COMMANDER'S INSTRUCTIONS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH ORDERS OF THE GUARDIAN

Posted by: Computer at July 06, 2024 09:01 PM (8sMut)

149 123 Loved the French Connection, but after watching it recently, it's wildly and I do mean wildly dated.

Which really takes you out of the enjoyment of the film a bit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (XV/Pl)

- Rudy Guliani has entered the chat.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (o3Uyl
Dated? DATED? So, things used to be different? Not up to TODAY’S standards? You can’t change history. It was the way it happened. Some of us remember, we will always rrmember.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 09:01 PM (LHPAg)

150 Well the fact that scene went on five minutes from the center of the city to the outskirts

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:01 PM (PXvVL)

151
I tend to take Serpico a little less serious now since I learned that Frank Serpico is a big time Lefty.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (SHMXB)

who da think?
and the ceasation of the 'Stop and Frisk' law was a factor in the rise in crime in the 90's NOW?!? Forgedaboutit?

It was hard to fathom that the NYC slimehole covered in graffiti could ever become a nice town again. Thanks to Gulianni and Trump among others it came to pass.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 09:03 PM (o3Uyl)

152 I think it took two weeks to film it the rock tried a slap dash homage with none of the style

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:03 PM (PXvVL)

153 Forgot about Eastern Promises -- that one's good too. And that scene in the steam room is almost too scary to watch even in a repeat viewing.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 09:03 PM (q3u5l)

154 132 Most chase scenes in movies are preposterous.

They would end it the first 20 to 30 seconds.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (+K+vL)

You're still here?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 09:04 PM (8sMut)

155 Caruso is a weird case.

It seems for a time some where putting him up as a lead man.

Though he never really should have been one.

So it seems like an exanemple of Hollywood miscasting.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:05 PM (+K+vL)

156 114

'A waste of time usually.'

A lot like jazz if you ask me.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 09:05 PM (3wi/L)

157 It was the era of lindsay newsom eaat coast type born with a silver spoon up his...the kingpins were flooding the streets with the money they got from addicting half of nyc that part of american gangster was true

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:06 PM (PXvVL)

158 I took you for a stronger man, John Koenig. But just how long do you think you can last? Three days of despair have reduced you to pills to sleep the hours away...

Posted by: Servant of The Guardian at July 06, 2024 09:07 PM (8sMut)

159 in the theater the chase scene in The French connection was impactful due to the dash cam footage. First of its kind. Hence the reason we are giving cudos to director William Friedkin

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 09:07 PM (o3Uyl)

160 Groove to this from Bullitt

https://youtu.be/4rPlk-wtYww?si=xsgnYdneB2ULNUaW

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:07 PM (/7KEl)

161 Saw to live and die in LA in Germany in 1986. All of us that went to the movie theater on base to see it thought it wasn’t one of the Best chase scenes in a Movie. I went out and bought the DVD and VHS tape for it. Still love the movie to this day.

Posted by: morigu at July 06, 2024 09:07 PM (lKLrB)

162 Most everything else was wrong about it including richie and frank lucas portrayal

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:08 PM (PXvVL)

163 Viggo Mortensen Is another big time lefty actor but he makes some good movies. Hidalgo is another of his really good movies.

Far From Men is one of his not well known movies that I would highly recommend.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 09:08 PM (SHMXB)

164 Ah, now we near the end. All from Moon Base Alpha are stoners on Piri. Koenig must save them...

"Not even to have to worry about the problems of day to day subsistence. I used to dream about this..." - Dr. Helena Russell

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 09:10 PM (8sMut)

165 Yes that was the first time i saw willem defoe he was even creepier than when he played norman osborn

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 06, 2024 09:11 PM (PXvVL)

166 161 Saw to live and die in LA in Germany in 1986. All of us that went to the movie theater on base to see it thought it wasn’t one of the Best chase scenes in a Movie. I went out and bought the DVD and VHS tape for it. Still love the movie to this day.
Posted by: morigu at July 06, 2024 09:07 PM (lKLrB)

That's pretty good. Most theaters on base in Germany were behind the times in those days.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 09:11 PM (8sMut)

167 The snipers aren't all that interesting.

Kind of boring actually.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:12 PM (+K+vL)

168 159 in the theater the chase scene in The French connection was impactful due to the dash cam footage. First of its kind. Hence the reason we are giving cudos to director William Friedkin
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!



Did LeMans (Steve McQueen) have dash cam footage? I'm pretty sure it did. I'd have to look up when it came out. Probably about the same time TFC did.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 09:14 PM (rii+a)

169 166 That was definitely the case with AFEES Back in the day.

Posted by: morigu at July 06, 2024 09:15 PM (lKLrB)

170 I think I'll plug William Friedkin into the search on my streaming home channel and see what movie pops up for free if any..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 06, 2024 09:15 PM (o3Uyl)

171 I saw The Fall Guy and it was pretty good. The female lead doesn't steal the show and beat up all the bad guys which in this day and age is actually an amazing improvement over most action movies.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2024 09:16 PM (oZhjI)

172 I'm going to say it.

Big chase scenes in movies are more often than not a bunch of hot garbage.

A waste of time usually.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 08:47 PM (+K+vL)

Yes. Chaotic, overdone, and generally too damn long.

Agreed, except for Friedkin's chase scenes, especially the one in To Live and Die.

Huge, wide, continuous action shots. No trick editing. No CGI. That's a real fucking train. That's a real fucking drainage ditch.

And that's a real fucking plot twist. Bang, right in the middle, the world turns inside out and you can't figure out who's chasing whom.

To Live and Die isn't the best movie ever made, but there is nothing else like it. Friedkin scared everybody to death, including the producers.

Posted by: Tom Perry at July 06, 2024 09:17 PM (MX0bI)

173 Regarding The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial, I have to say that Kieffer Sutherland was absolutely terrible as Queeg.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 09:18 PM (CWMF2)

174 173 Regarding The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial, I have to say that Kieffer Sutherland was absolutely terrible as Queeg.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 09:18 PM (CWMF2)

===

I thought he was quite good. Weird accent, but he did the role well.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 09:19 PM (GBKbO)

175 You're still here?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 09:04 PM (8sMut)

Montec lives!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 09:23 PM (rU4Z2)

176 I thought Jason Clarke was better, and his Australian was imperceptible. I guess I've just never been a Kieffer fan.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 09:24 PM (CWMF2)

177 TJM I've always thought KS was a ham in 24.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:24 PM (+K+vL)

178 To Live and Die isn't the best movie ever made, but there is nothing else like it. Friedkin scared everybody to death, including the producers.

Posted by: Tom Perry at July 06, 2024 09:17 PM (MX0bI)


Ok, I'm in. Watch it this weekend. Thanks.

Posted by: Live from Madhouse Farm at July 06, 2024 09:25 PM (GPtBB)

179 Why do Hollywood studio photos always seem to show directors behind a camera? Pretty sure union rules forbid directors from even touching the camera during filming.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 09:25 PM (rU4Z2)

180 176 I thought Jason Clarke was better, and his Australian was imperceptible. I guess I've just never been a Kieffer fan.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 06, 2024 09:24 PM (CWMF2)

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Clarke is very good. He probably should stay in the theater. He feels like a real actor. He provides a really good anchor to Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 09:25 PM (GBKbO)

181 The sequel to "The French Connection," though not directed by Friedkin, deserves mention here, especially in the context of cinematic chase scenes. Popeye Doyle manages to get himself grudgingly accepted as a liaison officer for the Marseilles branch of the Police Nationale, in order to take Frog One down. It's a great vehicle for Gene Hackman and Fernando Rey, who both manage a level of character development that the former film didn't allow.

And the end is arguably one of cinema's greatest chase scenes, for reasons that are unique to the film and the narrative. I can't say much more than that, because it's a spoiler and something that needs to be viewed in context with the film as a whole.

Posted by: John Drake Is Somewhat Impressed By The Astrakhan Kremlin at July 06, 2024 09:25 PM (tmPIh)

182 177 TJM I've always thought KS was a ham in 24.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:24 PM (+K+vL

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I don't think that's wrong, but he's in a very confined space cinematically.

It feels like he went as far as Friedkin would let him go.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 09:27 PM (GBKbO)

183 Re: car chase

in M:I Rogue Nation, Ving Rhames actually says the line 'it's a car chase!'

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:28 PM (/7KEl)

184 179 Why do Hollywood studio photos always seem to show directors behind a camera? Pretty sure union rules forbid directors from even touching the camera during filming.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 09:25 PM (rU4Z2)

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They do set shots up. Cinematographers may move the camera two inches to the left to make it theirs, but directors do have a lot of say in where cameras go and what they see no matter what.

Some, very few, do end up working as their own cameraman from time to time.

Not that Friedkin followed rules.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 09:29 PM (GBKbO)

185 AOP, keep clowing yourself, I guess it's become an obsession at this point but let it go.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:30 PM (+K+vL)

186 This is a happy occasion.

No need to carry on about who killed who.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 06, 2024 09:30 PM (GBKbO)

187 nope, I was wrong

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:31 PM (/7KEl)

188 Moo-moo is getting testy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 09:32 PM (rU4Z2)

189 Friedkin, near the end of his life, decided to grab a bit more from The Exorcist property and did a documentary on Father Gabriele Amorth, the exorcist for the diocese of Rome. Amorth conducts an exorcism during the course of the film, and Friedkin is in the unusual position of not being certain what he is or isn't seeing. Worth a look.

Posted by: John Drake Is Somewhat Impressed By The Astrakhan Kremlin at July 06, 2024 09:33 PM (tmPIh)

190 Montec lives!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I don't think that's Montec.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 09:34 PM (3wi/L)

191 No, Jeremy Renner says 'it's a high speed chase!'

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:36 PM (/7KEl)

192 Nat Geo Wild is currently airing the series finale of The Incredible Dr. Pol. Had not heard that this was in the works.

Posted by: John Drake Is Somewhat Impressed By The Astrakhan Kremlin at July 06, 2024 09:36 PM (tmPIh)

193 Watching Legends of the Fall. Julia Ormond is an actress who was super hot and then let herself go , at least weight wise.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 09:37 PM (SHMXB)

194 I'm not what who someone seems to think I am and it's gotten really weird.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 09:38 PM (+K+vL)

195 Don't fuck with my camera.

Posted by: Zombie Alfred Hitchcock at July 06, 2024 09:43 PM (SYTee)

196 54 A brilliant portrait of marriage to a sociopath

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2024 08:20 PM (gKWVE)
***
Doesn't that describe most of the programming on the Lifetime channel?

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 09:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

197 what happened

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:55 PM (/7KEl)

198 we were talking about movies, then everybody left

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 09:58 PM (/7KEl)

199 Semi movie related.

Happy Days star Henry Winkler left furious after being charged £130 for rickshaw ride in London

-
Also a good headline for First World Problems.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 09:58 PM (L/fGl)

200 I've closed down a few parties, but never with a Lifetime Channel reference.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 09:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 198 --

I figured maybe it was something I said.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 06, 2024 09:59 PM (q3u5l)

202 199

'Happy Days star Henry Winkler left furious after being charged £130 for rickshaw ride in London'

Not cool.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 10:00 PM (3wi/L)

203 Happy Days star Henry Winkler left furious after being charged £130 for rickshaw ride in London

-
Also a good headline for First World Problems.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 09:58 PM (L/fGl)

A hunnert thirty pounds? That's indeFonzable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 10:00 PM (rU4Z2)

204 I think they're all over on the main page, slapping F5 like it's an unresponsive penis

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 10:00 PM (/7KEl)

205 Out of everything mentioned, I still assume that the only films people will equate with Friedkin will be The French Connection and The Exorcist. To Live and Die in L.A.

For me this is exactly the case. I think my not seeing his other works is they never penetrated the noise to see ever newer things and that not enough time had passed for the noise to die down enough to get that there were other things.

But those three, oh my, were dripping with a post 1960s kumbaya nihilism that arose from the race riots, Vietnam, LBJ, and Nixon coming. My mind was primed to trust nothing and believe in nothing.

A few memories and impressions.

The Exorcist filled this void with an absolute terror the caused electric bills to rise from keeping the lights on. While the French Connection embodied a frantic but hopeless shot a stopping an increasing chaos of illegal drugs, the elixir of the 60s, finally destroying everything. While To Live and Die, was a last gasp and death of heroes that never sold themselves out; God Save the Queen meets Holiday in Cambodia so to speak.

Much has not changed over the decades. Much has become more cynical. Exactly, it seems, as predicated by Friedkin.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 10:01 PM (RUmyk)

206 Lifetime. When you see those women that were young hotties back in our day and that are now MILFS its like WTF?

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 10:03 PM (+K+vL)

207 The chase scene in French Connection holds together better than the one in Bullitt which is very disjointed.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 08:51 PM (RIvkX)
~~~~~

The chase scene in the Seven-Ups was entirely filmed on a 2-block strip of West 96th Street in NY and then various clips from different angles all stitched together. Grew up there, so got to see some of the filming. A bunch of us went to see the movie and had a good laugh.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 06, 2024 10:03 PM (3ImbR)

208 Dude is bitching over 130 quid for a rickshaw ride?

I dropped 75 quid on a cab ride from my hotel to LGW.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 10:09 PM (8sMut)

209 203 Happy Days star Henry Winkler left furious after being charged £130 for rickshaw ride in London

-
Also a good headline for First World Problems.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 09:58 PM (L/fGl)

A hunnert thirty pounds? That's indeFonzable.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 10:00 PM (rU4Z2)
Fonz only weights 130 pounds? Should get a discount.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 10:09 PM (LHPAg)

210 The chase scene in French Connection holds together better than the one in Bullitt which is very disjointed.
Posted by: San Fransycho

Bullitt had a Mustang. Done. Boom. Plus Steve McQueen. Hackman is not McQueen and that matters.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 10:10 PM (RUmyk)

211 208 Dude is bitching over 130 quid for a rickshaw ride?

I dropped 75 quid on a cab ride from my hotel to LGW.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33



The UK is pricey.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 10:10 PM (rii+a)

212 Do we need to bail out a COB, or is there good wi-fi at the jail?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 06, 2024 10:11 PM (kpS4V)

213 MisHum is usually very prompt...we worry when he's not on time.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 06, 2024 10:12 PM (PZo5T)

214 Maybe he has a sub tonight

Posted by: lin-duh at July 06, 2024 10:14 PM (PZo5T)

215 London is ridiculously expensive, the of England not as much.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 06, 2024 10:15 PM (+K+vL)

216 Thank you TJM. Having seen The Exorcist once as a young teen I was scared to death, and that overwhelmed every other perception. Believe it or not, I never saw French Connection and Hackman's Popeye is still ahead of me. That one, I would happily watch.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2024 10:15 PM (VfE50)

217 I LOVE the Devil and Daniel Webster..

Posted by: Jmel at July 06, 2024 10:15 PM (bVhJi)

218
The UK is pricey.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2024 10:10 PM (rii+a)

Especially London.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 10:17 PM (8sMut)

219 I sense a disturbance in the Farce.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2024 10:18 PM (5zRhj)

220 Noodus ONTus.

Posted by: TRex at July 06, 2024 10:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

221 Strangely disjoint, though, it was like reading a murder mystery where the last chapter was all about how the murderer was not actually such a bad guy and was probably better than you, the reader. Posted by: Splunge at July 06, 2024 08:55 PM (hmKaK)

I always thought the best part of the movie was the speech Jose Ferrer gave at the end. It does give a sense of perspective to Queeg.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 06, 2024 10:32 PM (r5tfK)

222 I'm looking forward to seeing Friedkin's "Caine Mutiny", though I must say that the diverse cast is a bit jarring for a story originally based in WWII. However, it would be tough to be better than the film from the 1950s, with a great cast: Humphrey Bogart as Queeg, Jose Ferrer as Greenwald, and Fred Macmurray as the slimy Lt. Keefer.

Posted by: Nemo at July 07, 2024 11:01 AM (S6ArX)

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