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THE MORNING RANT: Supreme Court Overturns the Ninth Circuit's Ruling Establishing a Right to Engage in Vagrancy
The Supreme Court had several blockbuster rulings in the past few days. The two most prominent ones were 1) The ruling regarding presidential immunity, which should help to tame the lawfare against Donald Trump; and 2) The ruling reversing the Chevron deference, which might start to tame the unaccountable federal bureaucracy.
But there was a third blockbuster ruling, one that will finally allow cities in the western US to clear their streets of homeless encampments. The Ninth Circuit Court had decreed that sleeping on city streets was a constitutional right throughout its jurisdiction, bringing San Francisco-style street pathologies to even the reddest of towns in the American West. The city of Grants Pass, Oregon sought relief at the Supreme Court and was victorious. Mark Pulliam from the Misrule of Law blog just wrote an excellent piece about Grants Pass v Johnson and the prior maladministration of justice that made the Grants Pass ruling necessary. “Common Sense and Public Order Are Restored to America’s Cities” [Mark Pulliam - The American Conservative – 7/02/2024] I’ll start by quoting a line from the middle of Pulliam’s piece, which should bring a smile to so many Americans who have seen their cities trashed under the Ninth Circuit’s destructive imposition of criminal vagrancy on otherwise orderly cities. ”There is no constitutional right to vagrancy, and sleeping outside is not an ‘involuntary’ act immune from criminal prosecution, the Court held.” This ruling probably won’t have much impact on cities with Pol Pot mayors and Soros District Attorneys, e.g. those who welcome vagrancy and the destruction of civilizational order. But in cities like Grants Pass, it’s a chance to reclaim their streets.In Martin v. Boise, the Ninth Circuit struck down—in the entire western United States—all laws and ordinances forbidding “camping” in public areas on the grounds that punishing vagrants for sleeping in parks, on sidewalks, under overpasses, etc. amounted to “cruel and unusual punishment” in violation of the Eighth Amendment because homelessness is ostensibly a status, not conduct. Unless cities provide adequate shelter beds for all vagrants seeking free lodging, the Ninth Circuit opined, bums, drunks, addicts, and the mentally ill have “no choice” except to sleep outdoors.Unsurprisingly, homeless camps took root in cities from Arizona to Montana, and all points further west, with local governments powerless to take any corrective actions other than offering up free housing. The Grants Pass ruling reversed “Martin vs Boise.”
Cities and states are free to manage homeless encampments and the accompanying crime, drug abuse, and public health consequences, as they see fit. The jurisprudential nightmare unleashed by the Ninth Circuit is over.Pulliam also delivers a little intellectual mockery of the modern Supreme Court’s dissenting liberals, after first pointing out that the late Thurgood Marshall, a liberal champion during his Supreme Court tenure, wrote a prominent opinion (“Powell v Texas”
stating that public drunkenness was not a protected “status” under the Constitution, even if the person was an alcoholic. The current Supreme Court referenced and affirmed Powell v Texas in the Grant’s Pass decision, asserting that a ban on sleeping in public is no different than a ban on being drunk in public.
Despite this simple and irrefutable logic, the three left-wing dissenters in Grants Pass wrote 30 pages of overheated nonsense defending the Ninth Circuit’s execrable decision in Martin v. Boise. Justice Sotomayor’s paean to judicial activism begins with this drivel: “Sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime.” This is how divided the Court is in 2024. The three remaining Democrat appointees comprise a bloc of hard-left ideological zealots willing to embrace far-fetched theories that even Thurgood Marshall slapped down as silly during the heyday of “living Constitution” judicial activism during the 1960s.I’ve appropriated just about enough from Pulliam’s piece. Please give it a click and read the whole thing, which finishes with the following:
The conservative majority in Grants Pass provided a master class in originalist constitutional interpretation, restoring the ability of America’s cities to govern themselves. This is a victory for democracy, federalism, and common sense, and a major defeat for the National Homelessness Law Center, which spearheads litigation seeking to create a right to taxpayer-funded housing. Bravo!I’d like to also add this, the final sentence from the Syllabus of the Supreme Court’s Grants Pass ruling, which I believe was penned by Neil Gorsuch. It is a refreshing slap at federal courts who arrogate unto themselves the right to set policy:
The Constitution’s Eighth Amendment serves many important functions, but it does not authorize federal judges to wrest those rights and responsibilities from the American people and in their place dictate this Nation’s homelessness policy.
What if you took every American musical genre you could think of and combined them on one record? The results shouldn’t be this good. The album is “Jackpot!” by his band Monte Warden and The Dangerous Few, which is a monumental achievement. I’m hard-pressed to think of a record that so effortlessly and pleasurably blends so many different musical styles. Jazz, bossa nova, country swing, gospeI — I swear there’s even a… polka? It’s quite the musical evolution from The Wagoneers because The Dangerous Few is essentially a jazz band, and an incredibly talented one at that.
I’ve been a huge fan of Mr. Warden since his breakout album, “Stout and High,” with rockabilly band The Wagoneers back in the 1980s. It is that proverbial album that I wore out - I doubt there is any record in my collection I’ve listened to as much as that one. Mr. Hemingway gives a good background on the rise and fall of the Wagoneers in this piece, in addition to his discussion of the Jackpot album. A song from the new album, “Waxahachie Coochie Coo,” is currently climbing the Americana charts. I couldn’t find a live video of the band playing the song, so I contacted Monte and he sent me this Vimeo link of an entire Dangerous Few concert from three months ago. “Waxahachie” is at the 55-minute mark, but the whole thing is so darned good.Caught the Dangerous Few at The Parker Jazz Club in Austin last fall... Amazing show, and this new song is incredibly fun. Give it a listen. https://t.co/OLRDkTbrcI
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) March 19, 2024
April 11, 2024 - Monte Warden from Parker Jazz Club on Vimeo.
By the way, if you’re curious about the Wagoneers album that had such an impact on Mr. Hemingway and me, here is The Universal Music Group’s link to “Stout and High” on You Tube. Have a blessed weekend, and although July 4th is now over, keep the Spirit of ’76 alive within you. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]Comments
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rst.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2024 11:01 AM (xcIvR)
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1st?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:01 AM (/nCD+)
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Dammit, not first.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2024 11:02 AM (rbKZ6)
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Old sounding music never goes out of style.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 05, 2024 11:03 AM (MeG8a)
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3- Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:01 AM
Hi! How’s the new job going? I’m so happy for you!
Hi! How’s the new job going? I’m so happy for you!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2024 11:03 AM (rbKZ6)
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Didn't DeSantis/Fla. Leg. outlaw "squatting" last week?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
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You can’t arrest me for robbing a bank. Bank robber is my status bro!
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (lK/HK)
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So how long after evicting them will it take to clean up the filth?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (/8Il0)
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I have no idea why the legal argument was that governments have an obligation to prevent homesteading on publicly owned land as part of its duty to protect property rights of its citizens . . . Oh, right.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (D7oie)
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I think state and local authorities were already starting to do this. People were getting very aggressive about trespassing on property, setting up tents or some sort of shanty and turning the place into a shit hole.
Land owners, particularly those with money, and cattle or horses, pitched a fit around here and got local authorities to legislate some laws about it.
Land owners, particularly those with money, and cattle or horses, pitched a fit around here and got local authorities to legislate some laws about it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)
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Old sounding music never goes out of style.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Very true.
-- Tuvan throat singers
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Very true.
-- Tuvan throat singers
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:06 AM (v6JzV)
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Howdy all
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2024 11:06 AM (fwDg9)
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8 Didn't DeSantis/Fla. Leg. outlaw "squatting" last week?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
Yep. And I say "More please. And nationwide."
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
Yep. And I say "More please. And nationwide."
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:07 AM (/8Il0)
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Left: blue cities are fun, all this talk of homelessness and crime is Fox News lies
Also left: homeless people in blue cities have a right to sleep and shit anywhere they want
Also left: homeless people in blue cities have a right to sleep and shit anywhere they want
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 05, 2024 11:07 AM (lK/HK)
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Hi! How’s the new job going? I’m so happy for you!
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2024 11:03 AM (rbKZ6)
The job's good enough, truly it is. I'll not be challenged here, but I'm grateful, and employed. I'll hopefully be able to leverage it into something else as time goes on. The greatest upside, though, was being able to use my TSP (but not my pension) to pay off literally all of my debt, excepting the mortgage. It's so liberating.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2024 11:03 AM (rbKZ6)
The job's good enough, truly it is. I'll not be challenged here, but I'm grateful, and employed. I'll hopefully be able to leverage it into something else as time goes on. The greatest upside, though, was being able to use my TSP (but not my pension) to pay off literally all of my debt, excepting the mortgage. It's so liberating.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:07 AM (/nCD+)
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Good news, and a cheery second half to the post. Good to see.
I am currently at home, waiting (though not with bated breath) for the apartment mis-management people to send someone to repair my central air. And to examine the blinds in the living room. My view is that, since I cannot replace the blinds (the old brackets, *which they installed*, do not fit newer cordless blinds; and the new ones require three brackets, one of which would call for drilling *into the metal window frame*), that they need to do it. Their view is that the tenant is responsible.
If the blinds fall, I'm tossing them on the front step of the office and putting up tinfoil in the window to block the sunlight. The clowns in the office should love that.
I am currently at home, waiting (though not with bated breath) for the apartment mis-management people to send someone to repair my central air. And to examine the blinds in the living room. My view is that, since I cannot replace the blinds (the old brackets, *which they installed*, do not fit newer cordless blinds; and the new ones require three brackets, one of which would call for drilling *into the metal window frame*), that they need to do it. Their view is that the tenant is responsible.
If the blinds fall, I'm tossing them on the front step of the office and putting up tinfoil in the window to block the sunlight. The clowns in the office should love that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2024 11:08 AM (omVj0)
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The Ninth Circuit Court had decreed that sleeping on city streets was a constitutional right throughout its jurisdiction,
I must have missed that one. What number is it?
I must have missed that one. What number is it?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 05, 2024 11:09 AM (PrOMo)
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Cities are still dumps, even if you get rid of the Homeless. Taxes, Crime, Corruption etc... Why go?
Posted by: Jonah at July 05, 2024 11:10 AM (gwrBY)
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19 I must have missed that one. What number is it?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 05, 2024 11:09 AM (PrOMo)
I think it's part of the Good and Plenty Clause. Check the nearest penumbra and go from there.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 05, 2024 11:09 AM (PrOMo)
I think it's part of the Good and Plenty Clause. Check the nearest penumbra and go from there.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:10 AM (/8Il0)
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Legal Bureaucratics at the Supreme Court at American Thinker also goes into the gobbledygook Leftists lawyers and judges use words and change the meaning
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2024 11:10 AM (fwDg9)
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If the blinds fall, I'm tossing them on the front step of the office and putting up tinfoil in the window to block the sunlight.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Then what will you use on your hat?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Then what will you use on your hat?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
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I'm happy Val's weight is up 9 pounds from when he first fell ill. None of it went inside his head, but at 98, he's at a good weight for a boy of his size.
I'm happy Val's weight is up 9 pounds from when he first fell ill. None of it went inside his head, but at 98, he's at a good weight for a boy of his size.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (k01Bj)
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Whatever happened to just saying to a vagrant ‘Move along, bub. Can’t stay here. Get going.’?
Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (o2ZRX)
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The current Supreme Court referenced and affirmed Powell v Texas in the Grant’s Pass decision, asserting that a ban on sleeping in public is no different than a ban on being drunk in public.
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I was drunk in a bar. You *threw* me into public.
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I was drunk in a bar. You *threw* me into public.
Posted by: Ron White at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (iZbyp)
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Just build big walls around the major US cities. Block the ports. Then give them seeds to grow their own food
Posted by: Jonah at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (gwrBY)
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So how long after evicting them will it take to clean up the filth?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (/8Il0)
wonder if they still have those hose trucks around. could just make them super power washers...
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (/8Il0)
wonder if they still have those hose trucks around. could just make them super power washers...
Posted by: SturmToddler at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (UCRjB)
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> The greatest upside, though, was being able to use my TSP (but not my pension) to pay off literally all of my debt, excepting the mortgage
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You had taxes taken out, right? I think the minimum is 20% but whatever your nominal tax bracket is, that's the additional tax you'll pay.
Both my wife and I have tapped our TSP (last year and this) and for last year we still owed a bit on the withdraw amounts.
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You had taxes taken out, right? I think the minimum is 20% but whatever your nominal tax bracket is, that's the additional tax you'll pay.
Both my wife and I have tapped our TSP (last year and this) and for last year we still owed a bit on the withdraw amounts.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)
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Well, I'm not a statistician but I'm not sure about this.
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (L/fGl)
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I wonder how many "rules" we are following, dictated to us on shitty interpratations of shitty laws by unelected assholes.
Low flo toilets.
Light bulbs.
Catalytic converters.
CAFE standards.
What led up to Chevron in the first place? Sue and settle scams?
Now I've given myself another Rabbit Hole to dive into.
Low flo toilets.
Light bulbs.
Catalytic converters.
CAFE standards.
What led up to Chevron in the first place? Sue and settle scams?
Now I've given myself another Rabbit Hole to dive into.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (xcIvR)
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We had a schizophrenic 30-ish man living across the street from us with the middle-aged tenant of the house. She died recently and he disappeared for a while, probably to the local lake where he camps out in the summer.
He recently reappeared and set up a camp behind the major truck stop and convenience store.
That is no longer inhabited- just a pile of his things.
One of those intractable situations where you wish something could be done to help, but hands are tied.
He recently reappeared and set up a camp behind the major truck stop and convenience store.
That is no longer inhabited- just a pile of his things.
One of those intractable situations where you wish something could be done to help, but hands are tied.
Posted by: sal at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (y7DxH)
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and putting up tinfoil in the window to block the sunlight. The clowns in the office should love that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
The original blackout curtains.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
The original blackout curtains.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (PrOMo)
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Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:06 AM (v6JzV)
Bulgar- Re. Earlier Post, No the buses are not manual and they give you training . Spouse also likes having a couple hours off on the Morning between runs.
Bulgar- Re. Earlier Post, No the buses are not manual and they give you training . Spouse also likes having a couple hours off on the Morning between runs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (uNsfB)
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I'm happy Val's weight is up 9 pounds from when he first fell ill. None of it went inside his head, but at 98, he's at a good weight for a boy of his size.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Hadrian, how did the puppies' screening go for genetic heart conditions?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Hadrian, how did the puppies' screening go for genetic heart conditions?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)
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So how long after evicting them will it take to clean up the filth?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (/8Il0)
________
Is the Chinese president visiting soon?
So how long after evicting them will it take to clean up the filth?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (/8Il0)
________
Is the Chinese president visiting soon?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:13 AM (k01Bj)
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30 Well, I'm not a statistician but I'm not sure about this.
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (L/fGl)
It's probably true...b/c if prosecutors never bring charges, there is no crime...so police funding can easily have no link with crime. Dems are having this play out the last 4 years b/c they wanted police funding for their DEI and crony funding, and it was probably the biggest local pot to get (b/c they didn't want school money, the biggest pot, b/c those are their voters)...
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:12 AM (L/fGl)
It's probably true...b/c if prosecutors never bring charges, there is no crime...so police funding can easily have no link with crime. Dems are having this play out the last 4 years b/c they wanted police funding for their DEI and crony funding, and it was probably the biggest local pot to get (b/c they didn't want school money, the biggest pot, b/c those are their voters)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:14 AM (exHjb)
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Hadrian, how did the puppies' screening go for genetic heart conditions?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)
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George, Phoenix and Puff passed with flying colors. Zeus will be visiting in a couple of weeks and will be tested then.
Hadrian, how did the puppies' screening go for genetic heart conditions?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)
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George, Phoenix and Puff passed with flying colors. Zeus will be visiting in a couple of weeks and will be tested then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:14 AM (k01Bj)
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So how long after evicting them will it take to clean up the filth?
Posted by: NR Pax
Arrest them, then put them 8n a chain gang and force them to clean it up as part of the punishment. Then begin on the potholes, and civic trash pickup, landscaping, etc. Make it HURT to be a damned bum again.
Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: NR Pax
Arrest them, then put them 8n a chain gang and force them to clean it up as part of the punishment. Then begin on the potholes, and civic trash pickup, landscaping, etc. Make it HURT to be a damned bum again.
Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2024 11:15 AM (MsrgL)
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Zeus will be visiting in a couple of weeks and will be tested then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Heh. My brother used to have a golden retriever named "Zeus."
Good news on the other puppies.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Heh. My brother used to have a golden retriever named "Zeus."
Good news on the other puppies.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (v6JzV)
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Reforger @31,
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (W/lyH)
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The wide Latina, the gal who doesn’t know what a woman is, and Kagan are proving to be flat out nuts.
They don’t respectfully dissent. They DISSENT!!!
All 3 brought to you by Obama
They don’t respectfully dissent. They DISSENT!!!
All 3 brought to you by Obama
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (2BAti)
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From Sotomayor's dissent, I'm curious, did the defendants not only insist on the right to sleep on the sidewalk but expect the city to provide free shelter?
From Sotomayor's dissent, I'm curious, did the defendants not only insist on the right to sleep on the sidewalk but expect the city to provide free shelter?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (lCaJd)
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I'm happy Val's weight is up 9 pounds from when he first fell ill. None of it went inside his head, but at 98, he's at a good weight for a boy of his size.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (k01Bj)
So, you're saying on the smarts scale Irish Setters> Borzois?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (k01Bj)
So, you're saying on the smarts scale Irish Setters> Borzois?
Posted by: sal at July 05, 2024 11:17 AM (y7DxH)
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Reforger @31,
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Posted by: Diogenes
Was that Fred Upton? I know he was responsible for the light-bulb disaster.
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Posted by: Diogenes
Was that Fred Upton? I know he was responsible for the light-bulb disaster.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:17 AM (v6JzV)
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42 The wide Latina, the gal who doesn’t know what a woman is, and Kagan are proving to be flat out nuts.
They don’t respectfully dissent. They DISSENT!!!
All 3 brought to you by Obama
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (2BAti)
KBJ at least seems unwilling to expand criminal laws beyond what the laws say...she voted that twice this term. So, she has one rational issue...
They don’t respectfully dissent. They DISSENT!!!
All 3 brought to you by Obama
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (2BAti)
KBJ at least seems unwilling to expand criminal laws beyond what the laws say...she voted that twice this term. So, she has one rational issue...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:17 AM (exHjb)
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All 3 brought to you by Obama
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Kind of fun to imagine him fuming that all three of them are now exercises in futility.
All 3 brought to you by Obama
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Kind of fun to imagine him fuming that all three of them are now exercises in futility.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2024 11:18 AM (lCaJd)
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Was that Fred Upton? I know he was responsible for the light-bulb disaster.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:17 AM (v6JzV)
I believe Al Gore was a major contributor.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:17 AM (v6JzV)
I believe Al Gore was a major contributor.
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:19 AM (AwYPR)
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Arrest them, then put them 8n a chain gang and force them to clean it up as part of the punishment. Then begin on the potholes, and civic trash pickup, landscaping, etc. Make it HURT to be a damned bum again.
Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2024 11:15 AM (MsrgL)
I like the way you think and it's a bit kinder than a friend of mine who lives in Humblodt County whose response to "How would you handle the homeless problem?" was "Is Zyklon B on the table?"
Arrest them, then put them 8n a chain gang and force them to clean it up as part of the punishment. Then begin on the potholes, and civic trash pickup, landscaping, etc. Make it HURT to be a damned bum again.
Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2024 11:15 AM (MsrgL)
I like the way you think and it's a bit kinder than a friend of mine who lives in Humblodt County whose response to "How would you handle the homeless problem?" was "Is Zyklon B on the table?"
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/8Il0)
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Not sure hating on the hobos is a blockbuster.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:19 AM (AVyeO)
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>>The Supreme Court had several blockbuster rulings in the past few days.
Turns out the ratchet doesn't just turn in one way.
Turns out the ratchet doesn't just turn in one way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (LkLld)
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3 Supreme Court justices should have enough space in their homes to house a few hobos each. Perhaps Ace might even share a few recipes with Sotomayor.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (iZbyp)
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Justice Sotomayor’s paean to judicial activism begins with this drivel: “Sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime.”
I see. So...if someone is feeling tired, they can crash in my living room? Stellar legal reasoning, Sonia.
I see. So...if someone is feeling tired, they can crash in my living room? Stellar legal reasoning, Sonia.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)
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"This ruling probably won’t have much impact on cities with Pol Pot mayors and Soros District Attorneys,"
There might be some surprises on this note. Even some big blue cities - including Los Angeles - backed the "camping ban" side in front of the Supreme Court. While I doubt they'll use it as the only option, it does provide one more tool for them.
There might be some surprises on this note. Even some big blue cities - including Los Angeles - backed the "camping ban" side in front of the Supreme Court. While I doubt they'll use it as the only option, it does provide one more tool for them.
Posted by: junior at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (rYWrf)
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King County, WA sheriff, who was appointed by a far leftist county executive, refuses to enforce the no-camping law enacted by the city of Burien, despite the recent SCOTUS ruling.
Posted by: fly gal at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (6CtMt)
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If memory serves, Higgin’s two Dobermans on Magnum P. I. were named Zeus and Apollo.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (pgG81)
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Vagrants in Hawaii.
Going on 29 years since I lived there. It was like a different country then and probably moreso now. A liberal bastion but generally different than other left coast states.
In the urban areas (esp Waikiki) the sane homeless slept most of day on the beach, stayed up all night, and kept themselves generally clean and their 'stuff' in a gym bag. The not sane ones were just as nuts as anywhere else. One of those had a grocery cart full of junk mail and layout lttile displays of junk mail whereever he camped out...
There were seasonal encampments on beaches (usually not on the touristy areas). City would put up portajohns for them and have bus stops for school kids. You'd see guys out there there with flea market style taro/tents, easy chair, TV, and put put generators. End of the school year the City would clear them out. Homeless by choice to bank money for a down payment to buy a condo/house.
There were other family camps out in BFE that were tolerated year round because native hawaiian or some shit like that... just waiting for their 'homestead'. Seriously, rules required 'homesteads to be developed to the same standards as any other subdivision. So shanty towns
Going on 29 years since I lived there. It was like a different country then and probably moreso now. A liberal bastion but generally different than other left coast states.
In the urban areas (esp Waikiki) the sane homeless slept most of day on the beach, stayed up all night, and kept themselves generally clean and their 'stuff' in a gym bag. The not sane ones were just as nuts as anywhere else. One of those had a grocery cart full of junk mail and layout lttile displays of junk mail whereever he camped out...
There were seasonal encampments on beaches (usually not on the touristy areas). City would put up portajohns for them and have bus stops for school kids. You'd see guys out there there with flea market style taro/tents, easy chair, TV, and put put generators. End of the school year the City would clear them out. Homeless by choice to bank money for a down payment to buy a condo/house.
There were other family camps out in BFE that were tolerated year round because native hawaiian or some shit like that... just waiting for their 'homestead'. Seriously, rules required 'homesteads to be developed to the same standards as any other subdivision. So shanty towns
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (cOq4q)
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Good Morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (u82oZ)
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Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2024 11:15 AM (MsrgL)
Until we accept that most of them are drug addicts and mentally ill who don’t want to be housed, nothing is going to change.
Sometimes people hit hard times and those are the people who deserve a helping hand to get back on their feet. We need to stop enabling the addicts.
Get a job and contribute to society.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 05, 2024 11:15 AM (MsrgL)
Until we accept that most of them are drug addicts and mentally ill who don’t want to be housed, nothing is going to change.
Sometimes people hit hard times and those are the people who deserve a helping hand to get back on their feet. We need to stop enabling the addicts.
Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2024 11:22 AM (p4NUW)
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Perhaps Ace might even share a few recipes with Sotomayor.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (iZbyp)
I hope you don't mean pancake recipes.
**shudder**
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (iZbyp)
I hope you don't mean pancake recipes.
**shudder**
Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2024 11:22 AM (cvZX6)
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How long do we have before ACB is voting with Kagan more than half the time?
I love several of the recent rulings but I just don’t trust these people… ACB, Roberts and Kavanaugh; all three are unreliable and not to be trusted.
But I’ll take the recent wins
I love several of the recent rulings but I just don’t trust these people… ACB, Roberts and Kavanaugh; all three are unreliable and not to be trusted.
But I’ll take the recent wins
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (2BAti)
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41 Reforger @31,
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (W/lyH)
I'm fortunate enough to have an old shitty triple wide trailer with toilets that will actually keep flushing if you hold the handle down.
I fear the day I have to replace the valve with one of those new hissing things that drip water into the tank for 10 minutes. My toilets fill in about 30 seconds.
That's about the only good thing about my house's plumbing though.
Who ever gave us low flo toilets should be given a swirly every day in one. We can start with mine.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2024 11:16 AM (W/lyH)
I'm fortunate enough to have an old shitty triple wide trailer with toilets that will actually keep flushing if you hold the handle down.
I fear the day I have to replace the valve with one of those new hissing things that drip water into the tank for 10 minutes. My toilets fill in about 30 seconds.
That's about the only good thing about my house's plumbing though.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (xcIvR)
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Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)
I did have the taxes taken out. It was remarkably easy, got me entirely out of debt while protecting my pension, and leaves me with only my mortgage (1.6%, fixed for 30 years).
EVERYTHING looks different when one is out of debt.
I did have the taxes taken out. It was remarkably easy, got me entirely out of debt while protecting my pension, and leaves me with only my mortgage (1.6%, fixed for 30 years).
EVERYTHING looks different when one is out of debt.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (/nCD+)
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61 How long do we have before ACB is voting with Kagan more than half the time?
I love several of the recent rulings but I just don’t trust these people… ACB, Roberts and Kavanaugh; all three are unreliable and not to be trusted.
But I’ll take the recent wins
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (2BAti)
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Trump replacing Sotomayor, Thomas, and Alito with three Gorsuch clones would be fun.
I love several of the recent rulings but I just don’t trust these people… ACB, Roberts and Kavanaugh; all three are unreliable and not to be trusted.
But I’ll take the recent wins
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (2BAti)
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Trump replacing Sotomayor, Thomas, and Alito with three Gorsuch clones would be fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
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We can use retrospective analysis to declare deinstitutionalism a fatally flawed policy.
Yet it persists, in the Left's colonialist, slaver wanna be heart.
Yet it persists, in the Left's colonialist, slaver wanna be heart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:24 AM (u82oZ)
66
Didn't DeSantis/Fla. Leg. outlaw "squatting" last week?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
Yes he did, the inconsiderable right wing Nazi. Now, how are we women supposed to pee??
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)
Yes he did, the inconsiderable right wing Nazi. Now, how are we women supposed to pee??
Posted by: Karen McKarenface at July 05, 2024 11:24 AM (iODuv)
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In spite of the SCOTUS ruling blowing up the 9th's bogus right to camp and crap in public spaces the real nut is now in the hands of local governments stocked full people that have intrenched mindsets and interests in maintaining spending billions on the Homeless-Government nexus.
In Las Cruces, NM, (pop. 120,000), the reaction by the city council to the SCOTUS ruling was negative and a doubling down of maintaining and expanding the status quo that has resulted in one of these urban campers going off the rails and murdering a a police officer by stabbing him in the neck. Then there are the ongoing pleas from the business community to start making it most uncomfortable for these salt of the earth urban campers to keep breaking into their businesses, shoplifting at will, and at times threatening staff and customers.
A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision. I think this is an inhumane decision made by an ultra right-wing extremist Supreme Court...I really really hope with all of my being that no one on this dais is hoping to follow suit as that would not be reflective of the values of this community."
You can't fix stupid.
https://tinyurl.com/mvmsu2nc
In Las Cruces, NM, (pop. 120,000), the reaction by the city council to the SCOTUS ruling was negative and a doubling down of maintaining and expanding the status quo that has resulted in one of these urban campers going off the rails and murdering a a police officer by stabbing him in the neck. Then there are the ongoing pleas from the business community to start making it most uncomfortable for these salt of the earth urban campers to keep breaking into their businesses, shoplifting at will, and at times threatening staff and customers.
A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision. I think this is an inhumane decision made by an ultra right-wing extremist Supreme Court...I really really hope with all of my being that no one on this dais is hoping to follow suit as that would not be reflective of the values of this community."
You can't fix stupid.
https://tinyurl.com/mvmsu2nc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 05, 2024 11:25 AM (RUmyk)
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53 Justice Sotomayor’s paean to judicial activism begins with this drivel: “Sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime.”
I see. So...if someone is feeling tired, they can crash in my living room? Stellar legal reasoning, Sonia.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)
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So is pissing and shitting.
I see. So...if someone is feeling tired, they can crash in my living room? Stellar legal reasoning, Sonia.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)
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So is pissing and shitting.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 05, 2024 11:25 AM (2fIO4)
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67 A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision. I think this is an inhumane decision made by an ultra right-wing extremist Supreme Court...I really really hope with all of my being that no one on this dais is hoping to follow suit as that would not be reflective of the values of this community."
You can't fix stupid.
https://tinyurl.com/mvmsu2nc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 05, 2024 11:25 AM (RUmyk)
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I saw, let 'em crash.
You can't fix stupid.
https://tinyurl.com/mvmsu2nc
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 05, 2024 11:25 AM (RUmyk)
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I saw, let 'em crash.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:26 AM (L/fGl)
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>>> 55 King County, WA sheriff, who was appointed by a far leftist county executive, refuses to enforce the no-camping law enacted by the city of Burien, despite the recent SCOTUS ruling.
Posted by: fly gal at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (6CtMt)
Sounds like someone is volunteering for cleanup duty after someone else enforces the no-camping law.
Posted by: fly gal at July 05, 2024 11:21 AM (6CtMt)
Sounds like someone is volunteering for cleanup duty after someone else enforces the no-camping law.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:26 AM (llON8)
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You missed the best part - the leader of the Oregon legislature, and now governor, announced that Oregon was "obligated" to put the Ninth Circuit decision into statute (something no other state did), so now Oregon has to repeal the law that it passed to take advantage of the Supreme Court decision.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 05, 2024 11:27 AM (uxCna)
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>>> 63 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)
I did have the taxes taken out. It was remarkably easy, got me entirely out of debt while protecting my pension, and leaves me with only my mortgage (1.6%, fixed for 30 years).
EVERYTHING looks different when one is out of debt.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (/nCD+)
Washington Nearsider Johnson is right!
*Especially* in Brandon's economy, if at all possible, try to reduce or eliminate your debt as much as possible, even if you have to do something you wouldn't do under normal circumstances.
I did have the taxes taken out. It was remarkably easy, got me entirely out of debt while protecting my pension, and leaves me with only my mortgage (1.6%, fixed for 30 years).
EVERYTHING looks different when one is out of debt.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 11:23 AM (/nCD+)
Washington Nearsider Johnson is right!
*Especially* in Brandon's economy, if at all possible, try to reduce or eliminate your debt as much as possible, even if you have to do something you wouldn't do under normal circumstances.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:28 AM (llON8)
Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2024 11:28 AM (cvZX6)
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A little off topic, but the catalytic converter is interesting. I had an "aha" moment when I started getting into engine tune-ups on a more serious basis. My theory.
The big pollutants are HC, CO, and NOX. The latter is what caused the smog and brown haze over cities like LA, it reacts with sunlight.
A near perfectly tuned engine, at least in the old days had a very high NOX output, so the engineers purposefully de-tuned the engine as an answer to the federal government regulations. It worked - the NOX levels were reduced. But fuel mileage (among other things) was reduced dramatically. 25 mpg in a car on the highway with a V8 is about normal for a high compression engine that is well tuned.
The catalytic converter was there to burn all the wasted fuel literally spewing out the tailpipe. In terms of smog, raw gas or hydrocarbons was preferable.
The big pollutants are HC, CO, and NOX. The latter is what caused the smog and brown haze over cities like LA, it reacts with sunlight.
A near perfectly tuned engine, at least in the old days had a very high NOX output, so the engineers purposefully de-tuned the engine as an answer to the federal government regulations. It worked - the NOX levels were reduced. But fuel mileage (among other things) was reduced dramatically. 25 mpg in a car on the highway with a V8 is about normal for a high compression engine that is well tuned.
The catalytic converter was there to burn all the wasted fuel literally spewing out the tailpipe. In terms of smog, raw gas or hydrocarbons was preferable.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (PpROq)
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Popoe Frankie did it. He excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (N39Ws)
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Helena Handbasket
Local activism is where it's at. The Left attends hearings, gets on out of sight councils, and we work.
Retirement may be the answer. TO get people to take back the local arena. I have seen it work.
Local activism is where it's at. The Left attends hearings, gets on out of sight councils, and we work.
Retirement may be the answer. TO get people to take back the local arena. I have seen it work.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (u82oZ)
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How 'bout that?
@MarcusMStanley
This week the NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine. But in public, Biden and other U.S officials have been pushing a domino theory that if we negotiated an end to the war Russia would invade Poland and beyond. Biden led off the State of the Union with that claim!
@MarcusMStanley
This week the NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine. But in public, Biden and other U.S officials have been pushing a domino theory that if we negotiated an end to the war Russia would invade Poland and beyond. Biden led off the State of the Union with that claim!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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I was in West Virginia for a few days earlier this week. Several years ago we had a small homeless family encampment nearby. It's heavily wooded and nearly impossible to see people's homes in the summer. So they built a shanty and cleared some space on property owned by someone else. They were there for the better part of a spring and summer. Local authorities were not interested and the property owner was MIA.
I'm pretty sure when nobody was home at our place they'd come up and fill jugs with water from our hose and rummage through our trash. Some outdoor furniture also ended up missing.
Had there been a law I wonder if the local law enforcement (county Sheriff) would have done anything.
I'm pretty sure when nobody was home at our place they'd come up and fill jugs with water from our hose and rummage through our trash. Some outdoor furniture also ended up missing.
Had there been a law I wonder if the local law enforcement (county Sheriff) would have done anything.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)
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Hotus, guess someone is trying to gyn up support for The Ho
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (fwDg9)
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A little off topic, but the catalytic converter is interesting.
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What this country needs is a capitalistic converter to convert commie shit to capitalism.
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What this country needs is a capitalistic converter to convert commie shit to capitalism.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)
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A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision. [ ... ]
You can't fix stupid.
Yep. And this is completely in agreement with the SCOTUS decision. The residents elect their law makers and law enforcers and they get what they vote for instead of having it imposed from above. And if they get it good and hard enough, maybe they'll vote differently the next time. Or not. Either way, it's up to them, as it should be.
You can't fix stupid.
Yep. And this is completely in agreement with the SCOTUS decision. The residents elect their law makers and law enforcers and they get what they vote for instead of having it imposed from above. And if they get it good and hard enough, maybe they'll vote differently the next time. Or not. Either way, it's up to them, as it should be.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2024 11:32 AM (/y8xj)
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Buck, thanks for the Monte Warden video. Getting Yanniger for the cover art is a boss move.
Posted by: FLanole at July 05, 2024 11:32 AM (+t/Uk)
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Hos serve a purpose. HOTUS server herself.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:32 AM (u82oZ)
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76 Popoe Frankie did it. He excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (N39Ws)
I mean, Vigano made it easy...he didn't participate in any of the proceedings. That would be like Trump skipping the NY case - maybe he'd be guilty either way, but one way allowed it to play out and he's getting vindicated everywhere...the other (if Trump skipped), and it's a behind closed doors done deal with everyone saying "told you so - he has no defense"...
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (N39Ws)
I mean, Vigano made it easy...he didn't participate in any of the proceedings. That would be like Trump skipping the NY case - maybe he'd be guilty either way, but one way allowed it to play out and he's getting vindicated everywhere...the other (if Trump skipped), and it's a behind closed doors done deal with everyone saying "told you so - he has no defense"...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:33 AM (exHjb)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:33 AM (JeYYB)
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The 80's called, Joe.
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (Y8lzz)
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Anyone feeling sorry for the homeless bums ought to be required to house some, and their lawns used as dumping grounds for all the junk removed from public areas.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (llON8)
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Vigano is 10x the Catholic that shit Pope will ever be.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (JeYYB)
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (/y8xj)
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Kevin Dahlgren and Garbage Ghost on X, if you want to see the real horror of people on the streets. No one likes to talk about what happens to the wlderly and to women on the streets.
As for cleanup, it goes as fast as the property owner's money can make it. We had to have the junk RVs tested for asbestos before we could get rid of them.
As for cleanup, it goes as fast as the property owner's money can make it. We had to have the junk RVs tested for asbestos before we could get rid of them.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (xjTDL)
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I just saw someone call Kamala HOTUS.
Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2024 11:28 AM (cvZX6)
Jason Whitlock called the original Hawk Tuah Girl lol.
Posted by: blaster at July 05, 2024 11:28 AM (cvZX6)
Jason Whitlock called the original Hawk Tuah Girl lol.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:35 AM (AVyeO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:35 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 05, 2024 11:35 AM (hCzfy)
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>>> 77 Helena Handbasket
Local activism is where it's at. The Left attends hearings, gets on out of sight councils, and we work.
Retirement may be the answer. TO get people to take back the local arena. I have seen it work.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (u82oZ)
I wish that were an option for me.
Maybe if I won the lottery
Local activism is where it's at. The Left attends hearings, gets on out of sight councils, and we work.
Retirement may be the answer. TO get people to take back the local arena. I have seen it work.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:29 AM (u82oZ)
I wish that were an option for me.
Maybe if I won the lottery
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:35 AM (llON8)
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The local news had a characteristically one-sided view of the ruling. "The SC ruled that homelessness is a crime".
No, the SC ruled that that how municipalities handle disorder in their jurisdictions is up to the municipality. Local rule accountable to the voters, as was always the case before some self-styled do-gooders with deep pockets decided to make a federal case out of it. The local municipality by the way is filled with left-wingers which was up to the viewer to guess, but not important in the news script writers opinion. What is important is to appeal to the emotions of the viewers.
No, the SC ruled that that how municipalities handle disorder in their jurisdictions is up to the municipality. Local rule accountable to the voters, as was always the case before some self-styled do-gooders with deep pockets decided to make a federal case out of it. The local municipality by the way is filled with left-wingers which was up to the viewer to guess, but not important in the news script writers opinion. What is important is to appeal to the emotions of the viewers.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (fs1hN)
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The Ninth Circuit Court had decreed that sleeping on city streets was a constitutional right throughout its jurisdiction,
And here I was prepared to use the "Constitutional Right" to dwell freely on any land as a Constitutional abrogation when assessing property taxes.
If the homeless can make home any area freely within a given taxing jurisdiction, all we are now arguing over is to the extent the person is dug-in to that particular location.
And here I was prepared to use the "Constitutional Right" to dwell freely on any land as a Constitutional abrogation when assessing property taxes.
If the homeless can make home any area freely within a given taxing jurisdiction, all we are now arguing over is to the extent the person is dug-in to that particular location.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (rHxhM)
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"The Ninth Circuit Court had decreed that sleeping on city streets was a constitutional right throughout its jurisdiction, bringing San Francisco-style street pathologies to even the reddest of towns in the American West. The city of Grants Pass, Oregon sought relief at the Supreme Court and was victorious."
Question for the legal Morons: does a lot of this nonsense stem from the fact that while Teh Feds and States have constitutionally-delineated rights spelled out in our founding documents, while cities do not?
Question for the legal Morons: does a lot of this nonsense stem from the fact that while Teh Feds and States have constitutionally-delineated rights spelled out in our founding documents, while cities do not?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (Sq0ye)
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If I don't like jazz do I lose my ace of spades premium membership status?
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:33 AM (JeYYB)
________
If liking jazz is a prerequisite for AoSHQ Elite Status, I'd prefer balsa-wood membership.
If I don't like jazz do I lose my ace of spades premium membership status?
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:33 AM (JeYYB)
________
If liking jazz is a prerequisite for AoSHQ Elite Status, I'd prefer balsa-wood membership.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (k01Bj)
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I still prefer the Pacific Coast to serve as the national concentration camp for skells.
Hopefully Big Skell will lobby for reforms to ensure it stays that way.
Hopefully Big Skell will lobby for reforms to ensure it stays that way.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (wBaIH)
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The catalytic converter was there to burn all the wasted fuel literally spewing out the tailpipe. In terms of smog, raw gas or hydrocarbons was preferable.
Posted by: Common Tater
The Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve (EGR) was put in to 'cool' combustion down. NOx are created at higher combustion temps. ICE run more efficient at higher temps.
I have one car (20+ yrs old) that I looking to reprogram to eliminate the EGR. It can unplugged but computer will throw a code and probably use its program to detune the engine -> even lower HP and milage than if the EGR is 'working'.
Posted by: Common Tater
The Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve (EGR) was put in to 'cool' combustion down. NOx are created at higher combustion temps. ICE run more efficient at higher temps.
I have one car (20+ yrs old) that I looking to reprogram to eliminate the EGR. It can unplugged but computer will throw a code and probably use its program to detune the engine -> even lower HP and milage than if the EGR is 'working'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 05, 2024 11:38 AM (cOq4q)
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Probably every county in the US, when it was platted out set aside a large parcel of land for the "county farm" and similar.
Vagrancy and the rest of it is not new. Way back then these things fell to the local economy, the religious and philanthropic orgs, and local government.
Always thought it was telling that Medicare in 1965 specifically excluded mental health care for psychotics. The view then was "We have all these new drugs to give people, they will be able to function, and we can release them from care"
How's that working out, one might ask.
Vagrancy and the rest of it is not new. Way back then these things fell to the local economy, the religious and philanthropic orgs, and local government.
Always thought it was telling that Medicare in 1965 specifically excluded mental health care for psychotics. The view then was "We have all these new drugs to give people, they will be able to function, and we can release them from care"
How's that working out, one might ask.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 11:38 AM (PpROq)
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Housing is not the homeless solution. The West Coast shows that.
Work camps, with no drugs?
No work camps but lots of adulterated fentanyl?
Build reservations for the mentally ill? Warehousing people? That does not appeal.
Maybe intact families is the real answer.
Work camps, with no drugs?
No work camps but lots of adulterated fentanyl?
Build reservations for the mentally ill? Warehousing people? That does not appeal.
Maybe intact families is the real answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:39 AM (u82oZ)
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96 No, the SC ruled that that how municipalities handle disorder in their jurisdictions is up to the municipality. Local rule accountable to the voters, as was always the case before some self-styled do-gooders with deep pockets decided to make a federal case out of it. The local municipality by the way is filled with left-wingers which was up to the viewer to guess, but not important in the news script writers opinion. What is important is to appeal to the emotions of the viewers.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (fs1hN)
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Letting small towns decide how to run themselves without coercion from their betters in DC is fascism.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (fs1hN)
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Letting small towns decide how to run themselves without coercion from their betters in DC is fascism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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If liking jazz is a prerequisite for AoSHQ Elite Status, I'd prefer balsa-wood membership.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (k01Bj)
I read this as 'liking jizz,' and was very excited to learn about the wood member. Ship.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2024 11:37 AM (k01Bj)
I read this as 'liking jizz,' and was very excited to learn about the wood member. Ship.
Posted by: Secretary Bootyjuice at July 05, 2024 11:40 AM (/nCD+)
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If I don't like jazz do I lose my ace of spades premium membership status?
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit
Anybody don't like syncopation spend a night in the box.
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit
Anybody don't like syncopation spend a night in the box.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
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>>> 103 Housing is not the homeless solution. The West Coast shows that.
Work camps, with no drugs?
No work camps but lots of adulterated fentanyl?
Build reservations for the mentally ill? Warehousing people? That does not appeal.
Maybe intact families is the real answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:39 AM (u82oZ)
REE!
REE!
REEEEEEE!!!
Work camps, with no drugs?
No work camps but lots of adulterated fentanyl?
Build reservations for the mentally ill? Warehousing people? That does not appeal.
Maybe intact families is the real answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2024 11:39 AM (u82oZ)
REE!
REE!
REEEEEEE!!!
Posted by: leftists at July 05, 2024 11:40 AM (llON8)
108
I'm pretty sure when nobody was home at our place they'd come up and fill jugs with water from our hose and rummage through our trash. Some outdoor furniture also ended up missing.
Had there been a law I wonder if the local law enforcement (county Sheriff) would have done anything.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)
Wonder if anyone would notice if they went missing. I have friends in WV that would have rectified that situation, pronto.
Had there been a law I wonder if the local law enforcement (county Sheriff) would have done anything.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)
Wonder if anyone would notice if they went missing. I have friends in WV that would have rectified that situation, pronto.
Posted by: thatcrzyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 05, 2024 11:40 AM (iODuv)
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Thankfully, the current liberals on the SCOTUS are such idiotic DEI hires. A Thurgood Marshall with today's leftist mindset could be dangerous.
Posted by: mikeski at July 05, 2024 11:41 AM (DgGvY)
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If I don't like jazz do I lose my ace of spades premium membership status?
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit
I can go either way with jazz. Some of it is great -- like Vince Guaraldi's music for the Charlie Brown specials. But sometimes it's just irritating with no point.
I paid dearly for it.
Posted by: Seems Legit
I can go either way with jazz. Some of it is great -- like Vince Guaraldi's music for the Charlie Brown specials. But sometimes it's just irritating with no point.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)
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It's heavily wooded and nearly impossible to see people's homes in the summer. So they built a shanty and cleared some space on property owned by someone else.
Fine, then no one will complain about an ad hoc cemetery put proximate to the shanty and the stolen patio furniture.
Fine, then no one will complain about an ad hoc cemetery put proximate to the shanty and the stolen patio furniture.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:41 AM (rHxhM)
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>>> 89 Vigano is 10x the Catholic that shit FakePope will ever be.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (JeYYB)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (JeYYB)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:42 AM (llON8)
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Yes, the engineers (probably at gunpoint or near enough) did everything to ruin a good tune. Lower compression. Retard the valve timing, which is different than the ignition timing, which was also buggered.
I learned that trick, a timing chain will stretch quite a bit. But the real problem is the valve timing is retarded in the smog era engines. A lot of mechanics made good money moonlighting at night, re-tuning the pickup trucks Detroit was sending out.
The problem was, a new truck couldn't haul a horse trailer or anything like that, and it got 11 mpg to boot. With a 55 mph speed limit. Your government at work.
I learned that trick, a timing chain will stretch quite a bit. But the real problem is the valve timing is retarded in the smog era engines. A lot of mechanics made good money moonlighting at night, re-tuning the pickup trucks Detroit was sending out.
The problem was, a new truck couldn't haul a horse trailer or anything like that, and it got 11 mpg to boot. With a 55 mph speed limit. Your government at work.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 11:42 AM (PpROq)
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I can go either way with jazz. Some of it is great -- like Vince Guaraldi's music for the Charlie Brown specials. But sometimes it's just irritating with no point.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)
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Nailed it.
I can go either way with jazz. Some of it is great -- like Vince Guaraldi's music for the Charlie Brown specials. But sometimes it's just irritating with no point.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)
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Nailed it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:42 AM (JeYYB)
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I'm a big jazz and classical listener, so is everyone here, so we get along. But even with us, we have our limits. Some jazz (and even classical music) feels like they need to challenge the listener, to see how weird they can play and still maintain an audience. That's usually where I tap out.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 05, 2024 11:43 AM (MeG8a)
116
Yes, it's been a grand week for freedom lovers. Still, lefty cities are refusing to enforce camping ordinances, but all the biz associations and neighborhoods are, I hope, lawyering up to force them to do it. The fight for civility is not over.
Interesting side note: Ted Olson, who lose his wife Barbara on 9/11, presented another case on this issue to SC and lost. He's now quite liberal, so the tragedy I guess changed him.
Interesting side note: Ted Olson, who lose his wife Barbara on 9/11, presented another case on this issue to SC and lost. He's now quite liberal, so the tragedy I guess changed him.
Posted by: PJU at July 05, 2024 11:44 AM (G1dq6)
117
"Well, I'm not a statistician but I'm not sure about this.
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"
I'm not a statistician either but I can say with certainty there is not much of a link between school/education funding and student performance.
There are some other very strong links/correlation but we are not allowed to talk about them.
Clueless USA Today Columnist Claims There's No Link Between Police Funding and Crime Rates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"
I'm not a statistician either but I can say with certainty there is not much of a link between school/education funding and student performance.
There are some other very strong links/correlation but we are not allowed to talk about them.
Posted by: Ripley at July 05, 2024 11:44 AM (GUOwU)
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This ruling probably won’t have much impact on cities with Pol Pot mayors and Soros District Attorneys, e.g. those who welcome vagrancy and the destruction of civilizational order.
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Genius Mayor London Breed has been hiding behind this fig leaf for years.
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Genius Mayor London Breed has been hiding behind this fig leaf for years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2024 11:44 AM (RIvkX)
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Some jazz (and even classical music) feels like they need to challenge the listener
Beethoven's late chamber music, written when he was almost completely deaf, is some really weird stuff.
Beethoven's late chamber music, written when he was almost completely deaf, is some really weird stuff.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (v6JzV)
120
Huge decision. These 'homeless' are not organic. 600 homeless in Grant's Pass, Oregon? You're an idiot to sleep outside in Grant's Pass. You hitchhike south, and damned quickly.
They are transported to Grant's Pass (and hundreds of other cities in the West) and funded for a reason.
They are transported to Grant's Pass (and hundreds of other cities in the West) and funded for a reason.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (CFrOc)
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progressive jazz
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (AwYPR)
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If someone said you must listen to jazz for 24 hours (the kind where some asshole says "It's the notes they don't play that make this a mind-blowing") OR sleeping in a box, well, the box here I come.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (JeYYB)
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‘ A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision’
This creep might as well have stabbed the dead cop himself.. I’m so tired of these bloated parasites practicing their virtue signaling at everyone else’s expense.
‘ A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision’
This creep might as well have stabbed the dead cop himself.. I’m so tired of these bloated parasites practicing their virtue signaling at everyone else’s expense.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (jbnUc)
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112 >>> 89 Vigano is 10x the Catholic that shit FakePope will ever be.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (JeYYB)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:42 AM (llON
I think this is just the beginning. Depending on how long Pope Frankie is alive, and who succeeds him - the RCC will continue it's (death) march to the hard left. Any conservative trad-rads will suffer the same fate as Vigano
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:34 AM (JeYYB)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:42 AM (llON
I think this is just the beginning. Depending on how long Pope Frankie is alive, and who succeeds him - the RCC will continue it's (death) march to the hard left. Any conservative trad-rads will suffer the same fate as Vigano
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
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'...finally allow cities in the western US to clear their streets of homeless encampments.'
Except, in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco they still won't. They'll still try to jack up taxes and funnel money to their cronies in the 'homeless industry' of NGOs and activist groups.
Theirs too much graft to give it up.
Except, in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco they still won't. They'll still try to jack up taxes and funnel money to their cronies in the 'homeless industry' of NGOs and activist groups.
Theirs too much graft to give it up.
Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (0a2Tx)
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Interesting side note: Ted Olson, who lose his wife Barbara on 9/11, presented another case on this issue to SC and lost. He's now quite liberal, so the tragedy I guess changed him.
Posted by: PJU at July 05, 2024 11:44 AM (G1dq6)
She wrote a book. About someone who didn't like the book.
Posted by: PJU at July 05, 2024 11:44 AM (G1dq6)
She wrote a book. About someone who didn't like the book.
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2024 11:47 AM (xcIvR)
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124 I think this is just the beginning. Depending on how long Pope Frankie is alive, and who succeeds him - the RCC will continue it's (death) march to the hard left. Any conservative trad-rads will suffer the same fate as Vigano
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
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If I remember correctly, Francis became pope because the African cardinals backed him after many ballots because Francis was consistently polite to them upon their visits to Rome (politicking works, even in the Church).
The African cardinals broke the stalemate in favor of Francis.
Think they'll do it for someone like Francis again after his papacy? I have no answers, but I suspect it's closer to no than yes.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 05, 2024 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
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If I remember correctly, Francis became pope because the African cardinals backed him after many ballots because Francis was consistently polite to them upon their visits to Rome (politicking works, even in the Church).
The African cardinals broke the stalemate in favor of Francis.
Think they'll do it for someone like Francis again after his papacy? I have no answers, but I suspect it's closer to no than yes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
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Bulg, you mentioned the Tuvan throat singers.
Check out (the late) Roswell Rudd (avant garde trombonist) who travelled to Mongolia to record Blue Mongol.
I dig some of it.
Check out (the late) Roswell Rudd (avant garde trombonist) who travelled to Mongolia to record Blue Mongol.
I dig some of it.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 05, 2024 11:48 AM (MeG8a)
129
I think this is just the beginning. Depending on how long Pope Frankie is alive, and who succeeds him - the RCC will continue it's (death) march to the hard left. Any conservative trad-rads will suffer the same fate as Vigano
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I'm a hardcore Protestant, but even I don't like what's happening to the RCC. At least the RCC used to stand for Western civilization. No one, regardless of religion, derives any benefit from its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I'm a hardcore Protestant, but even I don't like what's happening to the RCC. At least the RCC used to stand for Western civilization. No one, regardless of religion, derives any benefit from its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 05, 2024 11:49 AM (aH3gl)
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Jazz is mostly bad. A crap music "genre."
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:50 AM (AVyeO)
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I've got no kick against modern jazz
Unless they try to play it too darn fast
And lose the beauty of the melody
Until they sound just like a symphony
Unless they try to play it too darn fast
And lose the beauty of the melody
Until they sound just like a symphony
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:50 AM (L/fGl)
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No one, regardless of religion, derives any benefit from its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
And all are harmed by it as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
And all are harmed by it as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:50 AM (v6JzV)
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>>> 129 I think this is just the beginning. Depending on how long Pope Frankie is alive, and who succeeds him - the RCC will continue it's (death) march to the hard left. Any conservative trad-rads will suffer the same fate as Vigano
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I'm a hardcore Protestant, but even I don't like what's happening to the RCC. At least the RCC used to stand for Western civilization. No one, regardless of religion, derives any benefit from its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I'm a hardcore Protestant, but even I don't like what's happening to the RCC. At least the RCC used to stand for Western civilization. No one, regardless of religion, derives any benefit from its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (llON8)
135
Sometimes people hit hard times and those are the people who deserve a helping hand to get back on their feet.
I would argue the word "deserves". Just because you aren't a crack whore doesn't give you moral/ethical precedence over any claim to my income or savings.
Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity, generosity and aid that is determined by the possible giver rather than an entitlement expected by the receiver?
I would argue the word "deserves". Just because you aren't a crack whore doesn't give you moral/ethical precedence over any claim to my income or savings.
Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity, generosity and aid that is determined by the possible giver rather than an entitlement expected by the receiver?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (rHxhM)
136
Spy Magazine in the '90s had an "Admit It. It Sucks!" they devoted to jazz. To me, it remains the definitive jazz review.
Posted by: Wally at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (hqVaF)
137
I live in Grants Pass. The homeless have occupied most of the parks, but it isn't anything near what it was when I was in L.A.
As usual, we have the typical cadre of leftists here trying gather more power unto themselves. They recently tried to alter the county charter which went down in flames. I still have hope for Josephine county.
As usual, we have the typical cadre of leftists here trying gather more power unto themselves. They recently tried to alter the county charter which went down in flames. I still have hope for Josephine county.
Posted by: Halfhand at July 05, 2024 11:52 AM (Q5Ulg)
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I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (llON
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He was a great Pope.
It was interesting how beloved he was by young people.
I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (llON
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He was a great Pope.
It was interesting how beloved he was by young people.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:52 AM (JeYYB)
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I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Yep. He and Thatcher and Reagan brought down the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc.
But who will bring down the WEF Bloc now?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Yep. He and Thatcher and Reagan brought down the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc.
But who will bring down the WEF Bloc now?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (v6JzV)
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I will point out that this common-sense ruling will also do more to help the "homeless" than any liberal crack-pot policy of providing shelter, etc. Allowing people to squat and/or encamp on public property merely allows them (and us) to defer fixing the real issue--usually drunkenness, drug addiction, mental issues, retardation, etc.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (XMwZJ)
141
So what was the purported reason that Vigano was given the boot?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
142
If only jazz sounded like a symphony instead of a lot of hot garbage.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (AVyeO)
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140 I will point out that this common-sense ruling will also do more to help the "homeless" than any liberal crack-pot policy of providing shelter, etc. Allowing people to squat and/or encamp on public property merely allows them (and us) to defer fixing the real issue--usually drunkenness, drug addiction, mental issues, retardation, etc.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (XMwZJ)
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"Help them? We just need to make sure our budgets don't go down."
-Those who say they help the homeless
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (XMwZJ)
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"Help them? We just need to make sure our budgets don't go down."
-Those who say they help the homeless
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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The Pope arriving to Iowa back in the day was a huge deal. It would be .... different today
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 11:54 AM (PpROq)
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Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity, generosity and aid that is determined by the possible giver rather than an entitlement expected by the receiver?
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I'm informed that such thinking is considered fascist.
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I'm informed that such thinking is considered fascist.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:54 AM (fs1hN)
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I agree with Mr. Ray.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 05, 2024 11:54 AM (XMwZJ)
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142 If only jazz sounded like a symphony instead of a lot of hot garbage.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (AVyeO)
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I'm enjoying Mr. Ray's passionate stance on Jazz. LOL
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (AVyeO)
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I'm enjoying Mr. Ray's passionate stance on Jazz. LOL
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:54 AM (JeYYB)
148
Scotus did allow the govt to keep censoring free speech though.
Posted by: Biden is Finished at July 05, 2024 11:54 AM (lK/HK)
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I'm old enough to remember Pope John Paul II.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (llON8 )
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Me too. I remember how excited my family was when he first came to the US.
I'm thankful that my diocese is pretty conservative (for now, anyway).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (llON8 )
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Me too. I remember how excited my family was when he first came to the US.
I'm thankful that my diocese is pretty conservative (for now, anyway).
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2024 11:55 AM (i+0XS)
150
"Help them? We just need to make sure our budgets don't go down."
-Those who say they help the homeless
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Always follow the money.
-Those who say they help the homeless
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Always follow the money.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 11:55 AM (JeYYB)
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You do not "argue" with hysterical stupid liberals. The women on the Supreme Court are perfect examples - "educated" means nothing when you're a dumbass. These cancers on our society must be removed with extreme legal prejudice.
Posted by: Son of Dad at July 05, 2024 11:55 AM (8JB5s)
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148 Scotus did allow the govt to keep censoring free speech though.
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It's for your own good, trust me. Now eat your veggies.
- Mommy Coney Barrett
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It's for your own good, trust me. Now eat your veggies.
- Mommy Coney Barrett
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:56 AM (fs1hN)
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I'll also add that the ultra-liberal, hippie-dippy city of Ashland, OR shut down their federally funded homeless shelter out of NIMBY-ism.
Posted by: Halfhand at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (Q5Ulg)
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Sometimes people hit hard times and those are the people who deserve a helping hand to get back on their feet.
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I would argue the word "deserves". Just because you aren't a crack whore doesn't give you moral/ethical precedence over any claim to my income or savings.
Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity, generosity and aid that is determined by the possible giver rather than an entitlement expected by the receiver?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (rHxhM)
That voluntary charity, generosity and aid is the only reason I was able to keep my house after I lost my job.
I didn't 'deserve' it, but I'm sure as shit grateful for it, and I try to be worthy of it as I move forward.
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I would argue the word "deserves". Just because you aren't a crack whore doesn't give you moral/ethical precedence over any claim to my income or savings.
Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity, generosity and aid that is determined by the possible giver rather than an entitlement expected by the receiver?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:51 AM (rHxhM)
That voluntary charity, generosity and aid is the only reason I was able to keep my house after I lost my job.
I didn't 'deserve' it, but I'm sure as shit grateful for it, and I try to be worthy of it as I move forward.
Posted by: Secretary Bootyjuice at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (/nCD+)
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If only jazz sounded like a symphony instead of a lot of hot garbage.
Posted by: Mr. Ray
My favorite form of classical music is the concerto. You get the grandeur of the orchestral portions and the intimacy of the featured instrument's portions. That's a great combination.
Posted by: Mr. Ray
My favorite form of classical music is the concerto. You get the grandeur of the orchestral portions and the intimacy of the featured instrument's portions. That's a great combination.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (v6JzV)
156
That's what started Thomas Sowell on his conservative journey iirc. He was employed in some sort of enterprise to help poor people in NYC, and he started getting in trouble because he was actually getting shit done and making things better. They don't want that, they want job security. No good deed goes unpunished, I suppose.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (PpROq)
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Kind of got into jazz in my older age, long ago a local station played jazz in evening so got hooked I guess
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (fwDg9)
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141 So what was the purported reason that Vigano was given the boot?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Vigano, the papal envoy in Washington from 2011-2016, went into hiding in 2018 after alleging that the pope knew for years about sexual misconduct by an American cardinal and did nothing about it.
He said the pope should resign and subsequently branded him a "false prophet" and a "servant of Satan".
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Vigano, the papal envoy in Washington from 2011-2016, went into hiding in 2018 after alleging that the pope knew for years about sexual misconduct by an American cardinal and did nothing about it.
He said the pope should resign and subsequently branded him a "false prophet" and a "servant of Satan".
Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (/8Il0)
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Whatever happened to concepts like voluntary charity
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Progressives like mandatory charity with OPM*.
*Other People's Money.
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Progressives like mandatory charity with OPM*.
*Other People's Money.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (L/fGl)
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141 So what was the purported reason that Vigano was given the boot?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Schism...which he was prima facia guilty of - schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.
He didn't even go back or participate in the proceedings, so by definition, he was refusing to submit to the pope.
He made it about the easiest thing for the pope to do.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Schism...which he was prima facia guilty of - schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.
He didn't even go back or participate in the proceedings, so by definition, he was refusing to submit to the pope.
He made it about the easiest thing for the pope to do.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (exHjb)
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Son of Dad is correct--as Samuel Clemens pointed out, never argue with an idiot, as onlookers won't be able to tell the difference. The 3 libtard justices are merely credentialed, hardly educated or wise.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (XMwZJ)
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‘ A city council member stated, "I think this is a cruel decision’
This is a statement of morality and ethics. I would need to know by what authority he can declare anything to be "cruel".
Is this finger-in-the-wind ethics? Something that he picked up by driving past a rainbow yard phylactery? Does this retard even know what the dictionary definition of "cruel" means? Does he have a history of identifying other decisions and characterizing them as "cruel" or is this clear use of Trigger Language yet another insincere gesture in support of the Mult-Billion-Dollar Homeless, Inc. grift?
This is a statement of morality and ethics. I would need to know by what authority he can declare anything to be "cruel".
Is this finger-in-the-wind ethics? Something that he picked up by driving past a rainbow yard phylactery? Does this retard even know what the dictionary definition of "cruel" means? Does he have a history of identifying other decisions and characterizing them as "cruel" or is this clear use of Trigger Language yet another insincere gesture in support of the Mult-Billion-Dollar Homeless, Inc. grift?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 11:58 AM (rHxhM)
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As a guy who has been trying to get a band together since Josie and the Pussycats and the Monkees. I have respect for any group who can get on the same sheet of music.
Wait. Does Jazz actually use sheet music?
Wait. Does Jazz actually use sheet music?
Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (xcIvR)
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Who is doing the Pet Thread now and the email address? Thank you!
Posted by: Cheri at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (oiNtH)
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Vigano, the papal envoy in Washington from 2011-2016, went into hiding in 2018 after alleging that the pope knew for years about sexual misconduct by an American cardinal and did nothing about it.
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Cardinal Cupcake Cupich of Chicago? Or some other one?
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Cardinal Cupcake Cupich of Chicago? Or some other one?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (fs1hN)
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as Samuel Clemens pointed out, never argue with an idiot, as onlookers won't be able to tell the difference
Yeah, but what did Mark Twain think?
Yeah, but what did Mark Twain think?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (v6JzV)
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>>> 160 141 So what was the purported reason that Vigano was given the boot?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Schism...which he was prima facia guilty of - schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.
He didn't even go back or participate in the proceedings, so by definition, he was refusing to submit to the pope.
He made it about the easiest thing for the pope to do.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (exHjb)
What if that guy isn't really the Pope?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 11:53 AM (2BAti)
Schism...which he was prima facia guilty of - schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.
He didn't even go back or participate in the proceedings, so by definition, he was refusing to submit to the pope.
He made it about the easiest thing for the pope to do.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (exHjb)
What if that guy isn't really the Pope?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (llON8)
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The schism canon law was last updated by Pope John Paul II in 1983...(Canon 751 of the Latin Church's 1983 Code of Canon Law, promulgated by Pope John Paul II in 1983)
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (exHjb)
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166 as Samuel Clemens pointed out, never argue with an idiot, as onlookers won't be able to tell the difference
Yeah, but what did Mark Twain think?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (v6JzV)
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"That man, sir, is an asshole."
-James Fenimore Cooper
Yeah, but what did Mark Twain think?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (v6JzV)
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"That man, sir, is an asshole."
-James Fenimore Cooper
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (v6JzV)
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"That man, sir, is an asshole."
-James Fenimore Cooper
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it ; )
"That man, sir, is an asshole."
-James Fenimore Cooper
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it ; )
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 05, 2024 12:02 PM (T+Iwg)
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>>> 154
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That voluntary charity, generosity and aid is the only reason I was able to keep my house after I lost my job.
I didn't 'deserve' it, but I'm sure as shit grateful for it, and I try to be worthy of it as I move forward.
Posted by: Secretary Bootyjuice at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (/nCD+)
In the current era, as a white dude (even if you're gay), you might have been lower on the priority list for state-enforced charity.
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That voluntary charity, generosity and aid is the only reason I was able to keep my house after I lost my job.
I didn't 'deserve' it, but I'm sure as shit grateful for it, and I try to be worthy of it as I move forward.
Posted by: Secretary Bootyjuice at July 05, 2024 11:57 AM (/nCD+)
In the current era, as a white dude (even if you're gay), you might have been lower on the priority list for state-enforced charity.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:02 PM (llON8)
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What if that guy isn't really the Pope?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (llON
Then, he probably should have gone back to argue that fact vs just avoiding everything.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (llON
Then, he probably should have gone back to argue that fact vs just avoiding everything.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 12:02 PM (exHjb)
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I can go either way with jazz. Some of it is great -- like Vince Guaraldi's music for the Charlie Brown specials. But sometimes it's just irritating with no point.
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Old Garfield cartoons with Lou Rawls. Really good.
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Old Garfield cartoons with Lou Rawls. Really good.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (MIKMs)
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NY Post -
WASHINGTON — President Biden’s inner circle has gotten smaller following his disastrous debate last week — with his wife’s top aide Anthony Bernal emerging as one of the 81-year-old’s key advisers alongside longtime confidante Mike Donilon, four sources close to or inside the White House tell The Post.
Bernal, 51, is a divisive figure for allegedly bullying and sexually harassing colleagues — and his influence was likened by three sources to that held by the mystic Grigori Rasputin over the family and court of Nicholas II, the last czar of Russia.
First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband” and he’s also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
WASHINGTON — President Biden’s inner circle has gotten smaller following his disastrous debate last week — with his wife’s top aide Anthony Bernal emerging as one of the 81-year-old’s key advisers alongside longtime confidante Mike Donilon, four sources close to or inside the White House tell The Post.
Bernal, 51, is a divisive figure for allegedly bullying and sexually harassing colleagues — and his influence was likened by three sources to that held by the mystic Grigori Rasputin over the family and court of Nicholas II, the last czar of Russia.
First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband” and he’s also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (L/fGl)
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"Jazz is mostly bad. A crap music "genre."
Posted by: Mr. Ray"
Considering how intricate and difficult it is to play it is you would think they would come up with something more enjoyable. Maybe my mind isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate it. But them, I do like bluegrass so...
Posted by: Mr. Ray"
Considering how intricate and difficult it is to play it is you would think they would come up with something more enjoyable. Maybe my mind isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate it. But them, I do like bluegrass so...
Posted by: Ripley at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (GUOwU)
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Jazz is good and fun. I still listen to Michael Franks every day or two. Amy Winehouse was incredible. The Crusaders, Pink Martini -- it all Feels So Good.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 05, 2024 12:04 PM (ogTiX)
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>>> 173 What if that guy isn't really the Pope?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (llON
Then, he probably should have gone back to argue that fact vs just avoiding everything.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 12:02 PM (exHjb)
Heh. From everything I've seen that is the *one* thing he did not argue, which rather surprised me.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:00 PM (llON
Then, he probably should have gone back to argue that fact vs just avoiding everything.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2024 12:02 PM (exHjb)
Heh. From everything I've seen that is the *one* thing he did not argue, which rather surprised me.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:04 PM (llON8)
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175 Bernal, 51, is a divisive figure for allegedly bullying and sexually harassing colleagues — and his influence was likened by three sources to that held by the mystic Grigori Rasputin over the family and court of Nicholas II, the last czar of Russia.
First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband” and he’s also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
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As the circle gets smaller, it will get more stringent and didactic. It could get down to being just Jill and Joe.
At that point...they still stay in because they know the only thing protecting themselves (either from punishment of some kind or just holding onto power) is the office that Joe holds.
He's not going anywhere.
First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband” and he’s also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
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As the circle gets smaller, it will get more stringent and didactic. It could get down to being just Jill and Joe.
At that point...they still stay in because they know the only thing protecting themselves (either from punishment of some kind or just holding onto power) is the office that Joe holds.
He's not going anywhere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Disco > Jazz
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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I didn't 'deserve' it, but I'm sure as shit grateful for it, and I try to be worthy of it as I move forward.
"Grateful" is the key thing here. In the first chapter of Paul's epistle to the Romans, he identifies the very first step in the Road to Reprobation as "And they were not grateful...".
If you are keen on destroying a society, then start first from wrecking the concept of charity and reciprocal gratefulness.
When government engages in involuntary wealth transfer and the recipients look at it is an entitlement, that is the crossing the Rubicon and entering into a society's death spiral.
Not knowing you or your circumstances, I'm grateful that people saw your moment of need and stepped up to do what was necessary. It is this sort of social safety net that yields compounding returns. It is just as noble to recognize the sacrifices and be grateful even to this day.
"Grateful" is the key thing here. In the first chapter of Paul's epistle to the Romans, he identifies the very first step in the Road to Reprobation as "And they were not grateful...".
If you are keen on destroying a society, then start first from wrecking the concept of charity and reciprocal gratefulness.
When government engages in involuntary wealth transfer and the recipients look at it is an entitlement, that is the crossing the Rubicon and entering into a society's death spiral.
Not knowing you or your circumstances, I'm grateful that people saw your moment of need and stepped up to do what was necessary. It is this sort of social safety net that yields compounding returns. It is just as noble to recognize the sacrifices and be grateful even to this day.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 12:06 PM (rHxhM)
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I think what makes it "cruel" in their mind, is that it is difficult for them personally. For decades it has been something they could opine on, while at the same time hide behind the fact there were federal laws that limited their options. They don't have that fig leaf any longer. It's right back to where it was for most of history. Oops. Now they have to do ... their job. That's dirty pool, or something.
The feedback mechanisms for our form of government were severed long ago, but there is some encouraging movement. We all know the reasons for the "homelessness" crisis. Loss of whole swaths of industries - like logging or mining or factory work. Outsourced and insourced with illegals, the economy is in shambles. Drugs and "Guaranteed Government Income" to the rescue. I would note that the "universal basic income" was a campaign issue in 1968
The feedback mechanisms for our form of government were severed long ago, but there is some encouraging movement. We all know the reasons for the "homelessness" crisis. Loss of whole swaths of industries - like logging or mining or factory work. Outsourced and insourced with illegals, the economy is in shambles. Drugs and "Guaranteed Government Income" to the rescue. I would note that the "universal basic income" was a campaign issue in 1968
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 12:06 PM (PpROq)
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kinthegarden@gmail.com
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2024 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
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The important thing to remember about jazz, most of the people who are actually making money at it...
are dead.
are dead.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 05, 2024 12:07 PM (MeG8a)
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Ronnie, Maggie and JP2 were speed-bumps on the way to todays globalist oligarchy.
"In fairness" they had little way to see how bad the west has become.
It happened after their time.
"In fairness" they had little way to see how bad the west has become.
It happened after their time.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 05, 2024 12:07 PM (AVyeO)
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>>> 180
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First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her "work husband" and he's also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
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As the circle gets smaller, it will get more stringent and didactic. It could get down to being just Jill and Joe.
At that point...they still stay in because they know the only thing protecting themselves (either from punishment of some kind or just holding onto power) is the office that Joe holds.
He's not going anywhere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
I was wondering if Hunter would be jealous of DOCTOR Jill's'work husband' side-piece but the article says they are close.... maybe he's also a good supplier?
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First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her "work husband" and he's also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
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As the circle gets smaller, it will get more stringent and didactic. It could get down to being just Jill and Joe.
At that point...they still stay in because they know the only thing protecting themselves (either from punishment of some kind or just holding onto power) is the office that Joe holds.
He's not going anywhere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
I was wondering if Hunter would be jealous of DOCTOR Jill's
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:07 PM (llON8)
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First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband” and he’s also close to scandal-plagued first son Hunter, whom Bernal greeted with a hug June 11 after his felony gun conviction.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
As gross as the thought is, I suspect it’s likely that Jill and her work husband are sleeping together…. That family is gross
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:03 PM (fs1hN)
As gross as the thought is, I suspect it’s likely that Jill and her work husband are sleeping together…. That family is gross
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 12:07 PM (2BAti)
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Good stuff BT, especially the tunes. I catch a faint hint of Guy Clark and Roddy Crowell from Mr. Warden and his partners.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (kxq0/)
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Cardinal Cupcake Cupich of Chicago? Or some other one?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (fs1hN)
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McCarrick.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 11:59 AM (fs1hN)
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McCarrick.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (j6jA1)
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Interesting thing about Rasputin -- He was against Russia's going to war in 1914 because he foresaw the devastation it would wreak on the Russian peasantry.
The one time Nicholas should have listened to him and taken his advice, he didn't. And he and his country paid the price.
The one time Nicholas should have listened to him and taken his advice, he didn't. And he and his country paid the price.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (v6JzV)
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Amy Winehouse was incredible.
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
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Waxahachie Coochie Coo?
Posted by: Spock at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (63Dwl)
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Not a RC, of course, but I feel bad about Vigano. It's a shame that any criticism of the Pope's views seem to be regarded as heretical.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (Kf5l/)
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191 Interesting thing about Rasputin -- He was against Russia's going to war in 1914 because he foresaw the devastation it would wreak on the Russian peasantry.
The one time Nicholas should have listened to him and taken his advice, he didn't. And he and his country paid the price.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (v6JzV)
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Great dance-fighter, though.
The one time Nicholas should have listened to him and taken his advice, he didn't. And he and his country paid the price.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (v6JzV)
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Great dance-fighter, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (PpROq)
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Luckily portapotties count as housing
Posted by: Someone from Boulder at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (UTGgr)
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>>> 196 Mr. Bernal doesn't ... swing that way. IYKWIMAITTYD
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (PpROq)
Oh THAT'S why Hunter likes him.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (PpROq)
Oh THAT'S why Hunter likes him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2024 12:09 PM (llON8)
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Germany: Mother throws newborn out of a window because she thought a child would ruin her career
https://mol.im/a/13603529
https://mol.im/a/13603529
Posted by: Ciampino - Yes Inspecteur, the baby didn't make it at July 05, 2024 12:10 PM (qfLjt)
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Noodles
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 05, 2024 12:10 PM (MDua2)
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192 Amy Winehouse was incredible.
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
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Yep. A huge loss. Perhaps a little known fact is that she did go to rehab and was on the wagon for some time.
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
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Yep. A huge loss. Perhaps a little known fact is that she did go to rehab and was on the wagon for some time.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 05, 2024 12:10 PM (ogTiX)
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196 Mr. Bernal doesn't ... swing that way.
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That probably explains why "Bernal, 51, is a divisive figure for allegedly bullying and sexually harassing colleagues" is allowed to get away with this behaviour.
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That probably explains why "Bernal, 51, is a divisive figure for allegedly bullying and sexually harassing colleagues" is allowed to get away with this behaviour.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:10 PM (fs1hN)
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>> First lady Jill Biden considers Bernal her “work husband”
really
what's her job, what are her assigned duties
what position does she hold, and who hired her
what's her annual salary
really
what's her job, what are her assigned duties
what position does she hold, and who hired her
what's her annual salary
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2024 12:11 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Cheri at July 05, 2024 12:11 PM (oiNtH)
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199 Germany: Mother throws newborn out of a window because she thought a child would ruin her career
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Unfortunately, yes, but in a way that she didn't expect. Her career will certainly suffer if she is sentenced to community service (it's today's debased Germany after all), or possibly even worse punishment.
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Unfortunately, yes, but in a way that she didn't expect. Her career will certainly suffer if she is sentenced to community service (it's today's debased Germany after all), or possibly even worse punishment.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 05, 2024 12:12 PM (fs1hN)
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192 Amy Winehouse was incredible.
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
I never heard of her during her lifetime as I don’t keep up with pop culture. Recently someone brought her up as an all-time talent so I found some of her songs and tried to listen. I’m too old I guess…. I just didn’t get it, didn’t enjoy it and didn’t hear any great talent in her singing…. YMMV
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She was like Nostradamus. Sang her own epitaph.
(Mine is They Told Me To Avoid All You Can Eat Buffets But I Said No No No.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 05, 2024 12:08 PM (L/fGl)
I never heard of her during her lifetime as I don’t keep up with pop culture. Recently someone brought her up as an all-time talent so I found some of her songs and tried to listen. I’m too old I guess…. I just didn’t get it, didn’t enjoy it and didn’t hear any great talent in her singing…. YMMV
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 12:12 PM (2BAti)
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194
‘ shame that any criticism of the Pope's views seem to be regarded as heretical.’
The Church is hierarchical and you don’t defy that hierarchy with impunity.
‘ shame that any criticism of the Pope's views seem to be regarded as heretical.’
The Church is hierarchical and you don’t defy that hierarchy with impunity.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 05, 2024 12:13 PM (jbnUc)
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Off, cum-guzzling gutter-slut sock
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 05, 2024 12:13 PM (/nCD+)
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The feedback mechanisms for our form of government were severed long ago,
Reject Climate Change™ Make Tar and Feathers Great Again.
The feedback mechanisms for our form of government were severed long ago,
Reject Climate Change™ Make Tar and Feathers Great Again.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 05, 2024 12:14 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 05, 2024 12:15 PM (JeYYB)
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I never heard of her during her lifetime as I don’t keep up with pop culture. Recently someone brought her up as an all-time talent so I found some of her songs and tried to listen. I’m too old I guess…. I just didn’t get it, didn’t enjoy it and didn’t hear any great talent in her singing…. YMMV
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 12:12 PM (2BAti)
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Understandible, but if you didn't like rehab or back to black, maybe try love is a losing game. That's my favorite and a heartbreaking delivery.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2024 12:12 PM (2BAti)
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Understandible, but if you didn't like rehab or back to black, maybe try love is a losing game. That's my favorite and a heartbreaking delivery.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 05, 2024 12:16 PM (ogTiX)
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hey did you guys know there's a new post
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2024 12:16 PM (/7KEl)
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“Sleep is a biological necessity, not a crime.” says the 'Wise' Latina. So is sex, but sexual rape is a crime, dear.
Posted by: Tim W McFall at July 05, 2024 12:18 PM (MB7ZU)
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This week the NY Times just casually dropped that the official U.S. intelligence assessment has always been that Putin didn't want to expand the Ukraine conflict beyond Ukraine. But in public, Biden and other U.S officials have been pushing a domino theory that if we negotiated an end to the war Russia would invade Poland and beyond. Biden led off the State of the Union with that claim!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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And you accept that?
Putin has been plugging holes in his security perimeter for the last 20 years. Ever wonder why he pushed south harder than north - Moldova and Romania. There is a gap and he wanted it plugged. I tend to watch actions. Putin's actions suggest the intelligence agencies have no intelligence.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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And you accept that?
Putin has been plugging holes in his security perimeter for the last 20 years. Ever wonder why he pushed south harder than north - Moldova and Romania. There is a gap and he wanted it plugged. I tend to watch actions. Putin's actions suggest the intelligence agencies have no intelligence.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 05, 2024 12:18 PM (GZYu7)
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199
‘ she thought a child would ruin her career ’
I wonder what her career prospects are right now.
‘ she thought a child would ruin her career ’
I wonder what her career prospects are right now.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 05, 2024 12:18 PM (jbnUc)
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I went through a rockabilly phase in the 80s. Stray Cats, Robert Gordon, James Harman Band. Thank God for Tower Records. Some of my favorite stuff came from accidental encounters while browsing music and some tatted ne'erdowell was spinning some eclectic vinyl in the background.
Posted by: red speck at July 05, 2024 12:24 PM (0Id0S)
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207 194 >>>'shame that any criticism of the Pope's views seem to be regarded as heretical.’
The Church is hierarchical and you don’t defy that hierarchy with impunity.
The Catholic Church is hierarchical. the Bible is quite clear about how to handle issues within the church body. The Vatican has put itself above all that. Which is one of the biggest reasons I may respect and love many Catholics but will never be part of their church.
The Church is hierarchical and you don’t defy that hierarchy with impunity.
The Catholic Church is hierarchical. the Bible is quite clear about how to handle issues within the church body. The Vatican has put itself above all that. Which is one of the biggest reasons I may respect and love many Catholics but will never be part of their church.
Posted by: red speck at July 05, 2024 12:29 PM (0Id0S)
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But where can I buy the whole album? And the album Buck wore out? That's what I need to know - not ephemeral youTube videos.
Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2024 01:26 PM (AWrpC)
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216 I went through a rockabilly phase in the 80s. Stray Cats, Robert Gordon, James Harman Band. Thank God for Tower Records. Some of my favorite stuff came from accidental encounters while browsing music and some tatted ne'erdowell was spinning some eclectic vinyl in the background.
Posted by: red speck at July 05, 2024 12:24 PM
Me too! The one on Columbus Avenue in San Francisco was on my walk home from work. I loved the listening posts. As a result, I have quite an eclectic collection of music.
Posted by: red speck at July 05, 2024 12:24 PM
Me too! The one on Columbus Avenue in San Francisco was on my walk home from work. I loved the listening posts. As a result, I have quite an eclectic collection of music.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2024 01:47 PM (rbKZ6)
Posted by: PJU at July 05, 2024 02:36 PM (G1dq6)
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Speaking of bands with an upright bass, here's "Postmodern Jukebox" doing a great rendition of "All about That Bass".
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at July 05, 2024 04:14 PM (BjaNL)
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The 9th has become the Nations most Overturned Appeals Court
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To GWB: But where can I buy the whole album? And the album Buck wore out? That's what I need to know - not ephemeral youTube videos.
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Posted by: deTokeville at July 05, 2024 05:50 PM (QLKP5)
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Just bought tickets to Austin show! Thanks for the heads up!
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"Throckmorton’s First Law of Live Music: “If There’s an Upright Bass in the Band, It’s Probably Going to Be Good”
Not always... I remember being in New Orleans during a business trip, one evening I decided to take in some local jazz entertainment.
They had an upright bass.
And after half and hour of listening to them, I was fighting back the urge to start cat-calling:
"When you're through warming up, why don't you play something?"
And, "Don't worry, buddy, I'll get it off you!"
Clothes don't make the man, and a bass doesn't make the band.
Not always... I remember being in New Orleans during a business trip, one evening I decided to take in some local jazz entertainment.
They had an upright bass.
And after half and hour of listening to them, I was fighting back the urge to start cat-calling:
"When you're through warming up, why don't you play something?"
And, "Don't worry, buddy, I'll get it off you!"
Clothes don't make the man, and a bass doesn't make the band.
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Why does the article finish with "Continue Reading". Wasn't it done. Where is the rest? Is this a kissing movie?
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