Poll: Immigration, Crime Top Issues for Voters

The Democrats made these the top issues of the election.

Polling from Gallup shows that U.S. adults have consistently ranked immigration as a top issue every month since at least November 2023. The polls come as the Biden administration has overseen record numbers of illegal immigrant encounters.
Recent high-profile examples of crimes committed by illegal immigrants has led former President Donald Trump to popularize a new phrase, "Biden migrant crime," when addressing the issue.
"Biden Migrant Crime is out of control and is ravaging America! Last night, two brave NYPD officers doing their job were shot by a Monster Illegal Immigrant who came here illegally from Venezuela last year and was living in a tax-payer funded migrant shelter," Trump wrote on Truth Social earlier this month. "Crooked Joe Biden has trafficked in the worst people from around the world, many with heinous criminal records, and unleashed them into our communities."

Trump called the mother of migrant crime victim Rachel Morin. Biden not only didn't call her, but has not seen fit to say her name.

Another poll from earlier this year shows voters rejecting the media's preferred euphemisms for illegal aliens.

Since 2013, The Associated Press Stylebook has directed writers to only use the terms illegal immigrant, illegal alien, illegal or undocumented in direct quotations. "Acceptable variations include living in or entering a country illegally or without legal permission," the Stylebook states.
However, a poll conducted by RMG Research, Inc. in February showed that 55% of voters said the "best way to describe people who cross the U.S. border without registering with immigration officials" is as "illegal immigrants." Meanwhile, 24% of respondents said the best term is "undocumented migrants."

Bill Maher says that Democrats' stance on immigration will get them "f*cked" on election day. Fun fact, I'm blocked by Bill Maher despite never having written to him or even written about him. (On Twitter, at least.)

Maher also called the Democrats "racist" for not listening to Latinos on the issue, as they support Trump over Biden on border security by 23 points.

Meanwhile, one of the two illegal aliens who murdered 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray simply cut his ankle monitor so he could leave his house to murder a child.

If he was so dangerous we put an ankle monitor on him, why was he in the country at all?

One of the illegal Venezuelan migrants accused of strangling and killing 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray in Texas cut the ankle monitor he was given at the border after the slaying, The Post can reveal.
Johan Jose Rangel Martinez, 21, and Franklin Jose Pena Ramos, 26, were both released into the US with GPS monitoring after illegally crossing the southern border into El Paso, Texas this year.
Rangel Martinez, who crossed the border on March 14, was released from the monitoring program on May 15 because he had no known criminal history and had complied with check-ins, sources said.
However, Pena Ramos, who crossed the border on May 28 -- less than a month before the shocking murder -- removed his ankle monitor two days after Nungaray's body was found in a swampy creek in Houston on Monday, according to sources.

The two migrants were arrested and charged Thursday with capital murder after they allegedly lured Nungaray away from home, then strangled her and callously dumped her body.

Remember, illegal aliens with criminal histories -- or connections to terrorism or human-smuggling gangs -- are simply "losing" their IDs as they approach the border, to prevent a bureaucrat from finding that history. Then they're allowed into the country with a "clean" record.

It gets worse: the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death.

The Texas district attorney whose office is prosecuting the murder of 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray in Houston tells Fox News that "the evidence is clear that a sexual assault likely happened."
Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg made the admission Tuesday on 'America's Newsroom' as one of the illegal immigrant suspects in the case, 22-year-old Johan Jose Martinez-Rangel, is set to appear in court this morning. His co-defendant Franklin Jose Peña Ramos, 26, had his bail set at $10 million on Monday.
"The evidence is clear that a sexual assault likely happened. But since neither defendant has actually admitted that, circumstantial evidence will have to prove it," Ogg said. "We are waiting on lab tests now to see if the capital murder charge can be upgraded to one where they are death penalty eligible."

As Trump asked at a rally: What about the American Dreamers? Do they count for nothing?

From Grateful Calvin at Twitchy, an NPR talking point robot pretending to be a journalist claimed that it's not "illegal" at all to illegally enter the country -- pro-tip, the giveaway is right there in "illegally" enter the country.

He then charged standout Fox News reporter Bill Melugin with spreading "racist propaganda," also known as "the true verified facts about migrant criminals."

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
Narrator: Legal pathways to citizenship already exist - and the people who have been in those lines, trying to do it the right way, have been forced to watch millions skip ahead of them, walking across the river to be caught & released, enriching the cartels & overwhelming ICE.

Pablo De La Rosa
@pblodlr
The entire foundation of this man's anti-immigrant propaganda is keeping a straight face as he ignores every immigration law expert in the country and in the world--crossing and turning yourself in is LEGAL, though he and his viewers may have a palpable hatred for it.

Retired ICE Field Director John Fabbricatore corrected this "NPR reporter" -- illegal entry into the country is, get this, illegal.

John Fabbricatore
@JohnE_Fabb
It is not legal. If you cross illegally and then turn yourself in, you are charged with 212(a)(6)(A) Aliens Present without Admission or Parole. Entered without inspection (EWI).
It 100% is illegal entry even in your echo chamber.
It's also not anti-immigrant propaganda--@BillMelugin_
reports on ILLEGAL immigration. Most Americans approve of legal immigration. You like to conflate the issue with your leftist talking points. Its trash.
Illegal immigration is a chaotic drain on the United States. Every crime committed by an illegal alien should not have happened had the Biden administration not allowed it to.

This trash Pablo then claimed that because we don't prosecute illegal border crossers that means it's not a crime and therefore it's "legal."

He ended by attacking Melugin again:

On Melugin, his reporting is racist propaganda by any definition of those terms. It's a deeply editorialized version of reality that communicates negative stereotypes of a minority group, a vulnerable one in this case.

Melugin snapped back:

My reporting is racist propaganda? If that's the case why were you in my DMs this winter asking me for help because, you, as an immigration "reporter", didn't know how/where to find simple ICE deportation data and didn't even know the difference between ER processing & deportation?
Pablo, not once in my more than three years of nonstop coverage, in every sector along the southern border, have I ever seen you out in the field there. Literally not once. You sit in an office and parrot immigration attorney talking points - and have zero understating of what is actually happening on the ground. You get zero engagement on your inflammatory & inaccurate posts because literally nobody takes you seriously. You didn't even have the stones to tag me in this. I will put my reporting against yours any day and every day - and this is the last response I'm ever going to give you. Best of luck!

https://t.co/xZqpzvPfdj pic.twitter.com/WSM8XO6qXw
— Elon Made Me Join (@ElonJoin839) June 23, 2024

NEW: During the overnight hours, we encountered another mass illegal crossing into Jacumba, CA, after midnight, made up of 150-200 adults and families from around the world.

Despite the MX military posted up nearby, cartel smugglers still call the shots out here. pic.twitter.com/tOfMdRE92D
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) June 20, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:23 PM

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1 in before Sponge!

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2024 01:24 PM (5fDan)

2 2?

Posted by: Gref at June 25, 2024 01:24 PM (5fDan)

3 And Fox has Joey up by two. Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2024 01:24 PM (u73oe)

4 Poll: Immigration, Crime Top Issues for Voters

==

what were top issues in 2020 , I wonder

Posted by: runner at June 25, 2024 01:25 PM (V13WU)

5 I wonder how often crime and immigration will be brought up during the debate.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:25 PM (JeYYB)

6 Illegal immigration is the top issue?

Too bad, there are three or four more executive amnesties coming before September, and about 7 million illegals will be voting in the November election. And, the DOJ is prepared to enforce that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:25 PM (lTGtQ)

7 Willowed:

Simps and soys and all the gay boys are the ruin of society

I saw Simps and Soys and All The Gay Boys open for Mott The Hoople at the Scotch of St James in '66.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 25, 2024 01:26 PM (Q0kLU)

8 The Paolo, he is, how you say, never a Pablo

Posted by: The Paolo at June 25, 2024 01:26 PM (DBZuM)

9 Remember the junta WANTS this level of lawlessness.

When the governor of MA was asked about an illegal raping a 14 year old in her state she said, with boredom, "These things happen"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 25, 2024 01:27 PM (oZhjI)

10 Biden not only didn't call her, but has not seen fit to say her name.
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FJB doesn't know who she is.

Even if he called her, he'd forget the reason why 5 minutes into the conversation or he'd mention his dead son.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 25, 2024 01:27 PM (7fElN)

11 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

12 top 12 if i'm lucky

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:27 PM (CWTWj)

13 and there goes all my luck for today

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (CWTWj)

14
These things happen
What difference does it make
Some people did something

From the Party That Cares

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (ugRIO)

15 Let us hope this matters

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (xcxpd)

16 Fun fact, I'm blocked by Bill Maher despite never having written to him or even written about him. (On Twitter, at least.)

Manly men block men they've never encountered.

It's safer that way. Prevents manly men from taking a beating they'll never forget. Verbally OR physically.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

17 By the way, those in the deep state are confidently predicting that Trump loses in November by one of the largest margins in history.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (lTGtQ)

18 I have a prediction ! Trump will lose Maryland to Biden...

Posted by: runner at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (V13WU)

19 I wonder how often crime and immigration will be brought up during the debate.

Uh, well, they are on the list:

1-20M) Abortion
21-40M) Trump being a criminal
41-60M) Trump is a Russian stooge
...
1200M-1201M) Crime
1201M-1202M) Immigration

So, as long as the debate goes at least 20 hours we'll have you covered

Posted by: The debate moderators at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (oZhjI)

20 the top issues in the debate will be j6, mean tweets, and earmarks of russian disinformation.

Posted by: cheap fake anachronda at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (sGtp+)

21
The two migrants were arrested and charged Thursday with capital murder after they allegedly lured Nungaray away from home, then strangled her and callously dumped her body.

Not eligible for the death penalty YET.. Eligibility is contingent on rape test kit results. If DNA is found then the death penalty can be imposed.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (o3Uyl)

22 the correct term is "not yet documented democrat voters"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (CWTWj)

23 And Fox has Joey up by two. Sure, Jan.

*************

Fox always overweights the Karen demographic sample by plus 30, to match their real life obesity

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (DBZuM)

24
Legal, schmeagal, just open the door and let everyone in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (MoZTd)

25 Usually, PDT engages in a bit of hyperbole when describing certain events.

However, when it comes to the illegal shooting a couple of officers, I think PDT was somewhat restrained.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (tT6L1)

26 "As Trump asked at a rally: What about the American Dreamers? Do they count for nothing?"

Yes. Yes, they count for nothing. Silly question.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:30 PM (iFTx/)

27 Melugins reporting has been excellent...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (Akjoo)

28 Poll: Immigration, Crime Top Issues for Voters

It's a shame "Deportation, Crime Top Issues for Voters" didn't make the list.

Posted by: tbodie, Lurker. Unless you are reading this at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (D//58)

29 Just saw the sidebar on JT: prayers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

30 >>Melugins reporting has been excellent...

And his hair is perfect.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (LkLld)

31 Wow, look at all those military aged men in that last videio.

Posted by: Moron Robbie abridged at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (WwC8N)

32 17 By the way, those in the deep state are confidently predicting that Trump loses in November by one of the largest margins in history.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:28 PM (lTGtQ)

Yep. Biden will double his rally to 162 bazillion votes.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:32 PM (OiAR7)

33 I saw at least one Muslim headband, too. That's neat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie abridged at June 25, 2024 01:32 PM (WwC8N)

34 I understand why Trump wants to focus on immigration and crime. However, I'm surprised inflation and the economy are lower in the list. To me, this is not good news for Trump. Money is the reason why some blacks and Hispanics will flip to Trump. They feel it when they go to the store or try to buy a car.

The media can say Orange Man Bad/Racist against all immigrants and some low-info voters will believe it. However, even low-info voters realize that the MFM is full of crap when they talk about the historically great Biden economy.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:32 PM (a/dOO)

35 There is a reckoning coming.

And it will be wondrously terrifying.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (wtvvX)

36 "The entire foundation of this man's anti-immigrant propaganda is keeping a straight face as he ignores every immigration law expert in the country and in the world--crossing and turning yourself in is LEGAL, though he and his viewers may have a palpable hatred for it."

so if i pay a prostitute fox sex or buy crack coke it's okay if i turn myself in. someone should have told hunter b about that

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (CWTWj)

37 34 I understand why Trump wants to focus on immigration and crime. However, I'm surprised inflation and the economy are lower in the list. To me, this is not good news for Trump. Money is the reason why some blacks and Hispanics will flip to Trump. They feel it when they go to the store or try to buy a car.

The media can say Orange Man Bad/Racist against all immigrants and some low-info voters will believe it. However, even low-info voters realize that the MFM is full of crap when they talk about the historically great Biden economy.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:32 PM (a/dOO)

Money and immigration are tied together; who's getting all the new jobs? Not the black and Hispanic citizens, but the illegals.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

38 The two migrants were arrested and charged Thursday with capital murder after they allegedly lured Nungaray away from home, then strangled her and callously dumped her body.

Not eligible for the death penalty YET.. Eligibility is contingent on rape test kit results. If DNA is found then the death penalty can be imposed.
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 01:29 PM (o3Uyl)
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Perhaps we need to amend the laws so that any illegal immigrant who commits a murder in the United States is automatically eligible for the death penalty. That second crime (murder) would never have happened without the first crime (illegal immigration).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (7fElN)

39 Fun fact, I'm blocked by Bill Maher despite never having written to him or even written about him. (On Twitter, at least.)

Lefties circulate block lists, so a lot of people end up being banned by people they will never interact with.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (2ocoG)

40 Trump is now competitive, or even tied, in VA and MN.

The two most recent components polls come from Roanoke College and Fox News, in May and June, respectively. Both showed the pair tied.

https://tinyurl.com/4h2med75

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (xCA6C)

41 Today, the US Surgeon General, the Top Doc, declared that "gun violence" is a "public health emergency", and his report includes a call for bans on "assault weapons" and "high--capacity magazines".

It's the gun's fault.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (rj6Yv)

42 36 "The entire foundation of this man's anti-immigrant propaganda is keeping a straight face as he ignores every immigration law expert in the country and in the world--crossing and turning yourself in is LEGAL, though he and his viewers may have a palpable hatred for it."

so if i pay a prostitute fox sex or buy crack coke it's okay if i turn myself in. someone should have told hunter b about that

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (CWTWj)

"Better to beg for forgiveness..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

43 Pablo is a hack retard ass-sucking leech. If it's "legal" to just walk across the boarder and turn yourself in, then how is that different from having 100% open borders? What's stopping anyone in the world from doing just that?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

44 41 Today, the US Surgeon General, the Top Doc, declared that "gun violence" is a "public health emergency", and his report includes a call for bans on "assault weapons" and "high--capacity magazines".

It's the gun's fault.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (rj6Yv)

That NM bitch Gov tried that. Didn't work out too well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

45 Trump is now competitive, or even tied, in VA and MN.

The two most recent components polls come from Roanoke College and Fox News, in May and June, respectively. Both showed the pair tied.

https://tinyurl.com/4h2med75

Posted by: Archimedes

I think everyone in the nation will be shocked at the disparity between the polls and the 'ballots counted' in November.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (lTGtQ)

46 30 >>Melugins reporting has been excellent...

And his hair is perfect.

meh. it's so-so

Posted by: pierre delecto at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (sGtp+)

47 Today, the US Surgeon General, the Top Doc, declared that "gun violence" is a "public health emergency", and his report includes a call for bans on "assault weapons" and "high--capacity magazines".

But all the rapey, murderous illegals pouring over the border is not.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

48 Poll: Immigration, Crime Top Issues for Voters
______________________________

I'm getting a little tired of the naivete. The top issues for voters (at least half of them) is whatever their side tells them they are. Abortion will be the deciding factor on the election (and, of course, fraud). It worked in the off year election. It will work again.

Add to that the calling card of the Left...which disturbingly is being portrayed as a bigger victim than the next guy. That's why immigration and crime don't resonate as a valid poll point (and neither does inflation). Half of our populous wear those detriments as badges of courage.

Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (dIske)

49 Today, the US Surgeon General, the Top Doc, declared that "gun violence" is a "public health emergency", and his report includes a call for bans on "assault weapons" and "high--capacity magazines".

It's the gun's fault.
Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (rj6Yv)
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I bet he changes his tune if busloads of illegal immigrants start showing up in his neighborhood.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (7fElN)

50 Gee, I wonder if Jake will bring up gun control at the debate on Thursday?

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)

51 This post is a cheap fake.

Everyone knows the top three issues are:
1) Bidenomics is working
2) J6 Insurrection
3) Trans Rights

Bonus top issue: Trump is badd.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (54tqh)

52 Pablo is an LIJ - Low Information Journalist.

Of course, you could argue 99% of them are so there's no need to call him out, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (2ocoG)

53 Wait until Hamas hits the country from immigration

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (wKStU)

54 45 Trump is now competitive, or even tied, in VA and MN.

The two most recent components polls come from Roanoke College and Fox News, in May and June, respectively. Both showed the pair tied.

https://tinyurl.com/4h2med75

Posted by: Archimedes

I think everyone in the nation will be shocked at the disparity between the polls and the 'ballots counted' in November.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (lTGtQ)

No matter how the final "tally" comes out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

55 >>Trump is now competitive, or even tied, in VA and MN.

I've been hoping Trump picks Burgum for VP but I read that he is doing a rally in VA on Friday after the debate.

Makes me wonder if Youngkin is in play.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (LkLld)

56 41 Today, the US Surgeon General, the Top Doc, declared that "gun violence" is a "public health emergency", and his report includes a call for bans on "assault weapons" and "high--capacity magazines".

computer shopper hardest hit. well, would be if it were still around.

Posted by: cheap fake anachronda at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (sGtp+)

57 CNN will have control of Trumps Mic and FACT CHECK TRUMP in REAL TIME... During the debate Trump will be cut of multiple times trust me...

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (o3Uyl)

58 think everyone in the nation will be shocked at the disparity between the polls and the 'ballots counted' in November.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (lTGtQ)

Not everyone for sure. I think most of *us* are expecting it at this point.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (ugRIO)

59 Pablo screams about no such thing as illegal immigrant while ignoring the minor fact other countries in South America have much more strict immigration than we do.

Guy needs to head to Mexico and demand the Mexican government support him just because he's there.

Once he does that, with any luck, we'll never really know how it worked out. Though, there may be a few signs.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (tT6L1)

60 Fun fact, I'm blocked by Bill Maher despite never having written to him or even written about him. (On Twitter, at least.)

Manly men block men they've never encountered.

It's safer that way. Prevents manly men from taking a beating they'll never forget. Verbally OR physically.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck
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Leftist self preservation maneuver. Bill fancies himself highbrow, witty, and sharp tongued. Rightfully sees Ace as a risk in taking him down a peg or four.

Posted by: scampydog at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (2bFN5)

61 Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (dIske)

Mork calling Orson, come in, Orson...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

62 Mexico is allowing this to happen and encouraging it. It may bring in China and a little pain here if they refuse but I'd tell Mexico they need to stop it or you will be cut off completely from the US like Cuba.

Another dream that will never happen.

Posted by: polynikes at June 25, 2024 01:37 PM (SHMXB)

63 Abortion will be the deciding factor on the election (and, of course, fraud). It worked in the off year election. It will work again.

More women voted Republican in 2022 than in 2020 according to the data. But if you're arguing that leftist men care more about abortion than women (to fix their "mistakes") I'm not gonna argue against that.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:37 PM (2ocoG)

64 Money and immigration are tied together; who's getting all the new jobs? Not the black and Hispanic citizens, but the illegals.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

You know that; I know that. Can Trump make that case in a debate without getting derailed by the moderators or Biden? (Unfortunately, it's not enough to do so in stump speeches. The MFM, including Fox, will make sure to cut away before airing that.)

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:37 PM (a/dOO)

65 37 34 I understand why Trump wants to focus on immigration and crime. However, I'm surprised inflation and the economy are lower in the list. To me, this is not good news for Trump. Money is the reason why some blacks and Hispanics will flip to Trump. They feel it when they go to the store or try to buy a car.

The media can say Orange Man Bad/Racist against all immigrants and some low-info voters will believe it. However, even low-info voters realize that the MFM is full of crap when they talk about the historically great Biden economy.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:32 PM (a/dOO)

Money and immigration are tied together; who's getting all the new jobs? Not the black and Hispanic citizens, but the illegals.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

Amen...and as we learned in 2012, money isn't visceral enough to win over voters. It helps, but Dems just always promise more payoffs...and physical security always trumps money for people.

People don't want to be scared to leave their house. Especially people who thought they'd moved up the ladder to a middle class that should have guaranteed them safety...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 25, 2024 01:37 PM (exHjb)

66 that was my best french toast ever

Posted by: Don Black- great cars, great prices, easy credit at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (/7KEl)

67 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (JeYYB)

68 43 Pablo is a hack retard ass-sucking leech.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June

I think Elric is my soulmate. He says the things I am thinking but am too lady like to say out loud.

Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.

Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

69 It gets worse: the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Pro-Palestinian Supporter at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

70 I've been hoping Trump picks Burgum for VP but I read that he is doing a rally in VA on Friday after the debate.

Makes me wonder if Youngkin is in play.

That would certainly be acceptable.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (xCA6C)

71 Cartels are "calling the shots" at the border. I'm triggered by that remark.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (rj6Yv)

72 66 that was my best french toast ever

Posted by: Don Black- great cars, great prices, easy credit at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (/7KEl)

Must've had sous vide maple syrup.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

73 elugins reporting has been excellent...

And his hair is perfect.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:31 PM (LkLld)
___________

"Meh"

-- That Werewolf at Trader Vic's

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (iFTx/)

74
Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

You mean his blatant attempt to unseat garrett?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

75 68 43 Pablo is a hack retard ass-sucking leech.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June

I think Elric is my soulmate. He says the things I am thinking but am too lady like to say out loud.

Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.

Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

LOL, I think he hoped that would remain in Vegas (and the last thread).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

76 If I were Trump, I would use phrases such as 'Biden immigration' and 'Bidencrime' and 'Biden inflation'

attach Joe's name to every negative issue
over and over and over and....

Posted by: Don Black- great cars, great prices, easy credit at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (/7KEl)

77 But all the rapey, murderous illegals pouring over the border is not.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

Not to mention all of the exotic diseases that are being spread around the country that are not native to North America. Sure, no public health considerations here.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (a/dOO)

78 Money and immigration are tied together; who's getting all the new jobs? Not the black and Hispanic citizens, but the illegals.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

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Pound the HECK out of that drum.

Remember a few weeks ago when it was reported that there have been zero American job gains in the last couple of years?

All the jobs have gone to immigrants, illegal or otherwise.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (b9jZi)

79 I lost my ass in Vegas, in more ways than one ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (NtVYv)

80 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (JeYYB)

Children learning to read "See Jane Run" are smarter than her, so........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

81 74
Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

You mean his blatant attempt to unseat garrett?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

Hey now. No crocs were used (AFAIK).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

82 Amen...and as we learned in 2012, money isn't visceral enough to win over voters. It helps, but Dems just always promise more payoffs...and physical security always trumps money for people.

Plenty of minorities are seeing illegals getting the money instead of them. That does matter.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (2ocoG)

83 We are so screwed

Posted by: Gonzotx at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (MwHgU)

84 Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

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Yeah, he forgot the first rule of Vegas:

"What happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (7fElN)

85 the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death.

Likely? I guarantee they brutally raped and sodomized the child before strangling her, slowly, to death.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (pohLc)

86 But you can't deport them all!!

Lol.

Of course not.

But a few well-publicized raids and we can power the border spotlights by attaching a generator to the "exit" turnstiles.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (54tqh)

87 "Compared to the fourth quarter of 2019, right before COVID-19 hit, the fourth quarter of 2023 shows 2.7 million more people working.

Except all those gains are among immigrants.

The number of immigrants working over this period is up by 2.9 million, while 183,000 fewer US-born Americans are working.

Put simply, compared to 2019, all the net job growth has gone to immigrants."

https://tinyurl.com/27g4uwmy

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (b9jZi)

88
Hey now. No crocs were used (AFAIK).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

Facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

89 That is a great honor being banned by that numbnut. Congratulations Ace!

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (ytSiK)

90 off

Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (/7KEl)

91 attempt to unseat garrett?***.

Is that what the kids are calling it now?

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (7gEpo)

92 a little early for off topic but hillary from althouse's house:

"Mr. Biden is one of the most empathetic leaders we've ever had. Listen to how sincerely he talks... Mr. Trump can't do that because he cares only about himself... ... Mr. Biden is a wise and decent man...."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (CWTWj)

93 >>>It gets worse: the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Pro-Palestinian Supporter at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

Muslims *are* known for getting the order wrong on "rape and murder".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

94 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.

Posted by: Seems Legit

Well, yeah. So is my dog. Low bar.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (lTGtQ)

95 This post is a cheap fake.

Everyone knows the top three issues are:
1) Bidenomics is working
2) J6 Insurrection
3) Trans Rights

Bonus top issue: Trump is badd.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
.......

Maybe throw in a little abortion.

Posted by: wth at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

96 91 attempt to unseat garrett?***.

Is that what the kids are calling it now?

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (7gEpo)

I'm not sure what the HQ style guide says about the wording of that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (ynpvh)

97 Cut off welfare benefits to illegals, they go home. It's pretty simple.

Want welfare? Show legit ID and SS card.

...yeah, like that will ever happen.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (tT6L1)

98 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (uxCna)

99 Just saw the sidebar note about JT. Prayers up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (kgE5c)

100 The Donks in Colorado are running an anti Jeff Hurd ad in which they say he and Trump are to extreme because they want to close the border and deport the Illegals. Yeah, good luck with that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (L/fGl)

101 Youngkin is not my favorite. I'm disappointed that he may be the VP. I think he smells like Pence.

I'd like for any of you to talk me off the edge on that one.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (JeYYB)

102 The two migrants were arrested and charged Thursday with capital murder after they allegedly lured Nungaray away from home, then strangled her and callously dumped her body.

Remember, illegal aliens with criminal histories -- or connections to terrorism or human-smuggling gangs -- are simply "losing" their IDs as they approach the border, to prevent a bureaucrat from finding that history. Then they're allowed into the country with a "clean" record.

It gets worse: the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death.

Tell me you don't support extrajudicial teams and I'll tell you you don't love your children or grandchildren.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (1UfpD)

103 Remember, Biden said that America will be filled with people only speaking Spanish, and that's a GOOD thing.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

104 Melugin to Pablo:

"You get zero engagement on your inflammatory & inaccurate posts because literally nobody takes you seriously."

That's got to burn.

Posted by: javems at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (8I4hW)

105 The two migrants were arrested and charged Thursday with capital murder after they allegedly lured Nungaray away from home, then strangled her and callously dumped her body.

Not eligible for the death penalty YET.. Eligibility is contingent on rape test kit results. If DNA is found then the death penalty can be imposed.
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil

I'm not a lawyer, but here in Mississippi the offenses listed as capital crimes are exclusively those that are automatic death penalty cases. Is this the case in other jurisdictions, or are we the outlier?

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (ENHQb)

106 92 a little early for off topic but hillary from althouse's house:

"Mr. Biden is one of the most empathetic leaders we've ever had. Listen to how sincerely he talks... Mr. Trump can't do that because he cares only about himself... ... Mr. Biden is a wise and decent man...."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (CWTWj)

As decent as Bill and Hillary. Real paragons there. Well, paragons of graft and degradation.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

107 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.

Posted by: Seems Legit

Well, yeah. So is my dog. Low bar.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
.......

So is my garage mop.

Posted by: wth at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

108 Put simply, compared to 2019, all the net job growth has gone to immigrants."

https://tinyurl.com/27g4uwmy
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men say we like these traits in women, women reply no, you are wrong at June 25, 2024 01:41 PM (b9jZi)

Yep. Even the Dems admit it. But they do that because they're forced to choose between two minority blocs and apparently the Dems are championing people who illegally cross the border and take jobs away from Americans.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (rj6Yv)

109 Trump should do a rally in Chicago in October, highlighting just how much money the city and state have been shoveling to illegals but cutting services to its own citizens. Hell, invite some of the South Siders who have been on videos complaining about the misallocation of resources and takeover of their parks, their schools, their neighborhoods.

Such a rally just might put a few dents in the Chicago machine.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (a/dOO)

110 Well, yeah. So is my dog. Low bar.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (lTGtQ)

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Exactly.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (JeYYB)

111 Trump will have three or four messages he hammers throughout the entire debate. That is essentially the only thing that matters.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (ugRIO)

112 Oh boy!

My new squeeze is here for the day and, dare I say,, the night...

LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4E0jAeAf8

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (EFZgU)

113 "Compared to the fourth quarter of 2019, right before COVID-19 hit, the fourth quarter of 2023 shows 2.7 million more people working.

Except all those gains are among immigrants.

The number of immigrants working over this period is up by 2.9 million, while 183,000 fewer US-born Americans are working.

Put simply, compared to 2019, all the net job growth has gone to immigrants."

https://tinyurl.com/27g4uwmy

Posted by: Moron Robbie

Since 2019, all new job growth has gone to immigrants.

Four plus years running.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (lTGtQ)

114 >>I'm getting a little tired of the naivete. The top issues for voters (at least half of them) is whatever their side tells them they are. Abortion will be the deciding factor on the election (and, of course, fraud). It worked in the off year election. It will work again.

If Trump is competitive in a number of traditional Democrat states, if he's winning in the swing states and leading in virtually every national poll, then the issues are what people are saying they are.

Democrats suffer from crime. Democrats suffer from inflation. Democrats suffer from illegals.

When the country is doing well people can be more easily swayed with second tier issues but when people are weighing whether they can buy hot dogs and hamburger for 4th of July or pay for their kids school sports or even pay for rent then real bread and butter issues matter.

They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (LkLld)

115 Youngkin is not my favorite. I'm disappointed that he may be the VP. I think he smells like Pence.

The line on Youngkin all along has been that he's Pence in a dress. But he's done nothing since he was elected to betray conservatives as far as I'm aware, and he and his AG have gone after several school districts for tranny crap.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (2ocoG)

116 Pelosi's "Sparks of divinity" sure seem to snuff out a lot of sparks of life.

I'm sure that little girl was comforted in her last moments, struggling to breath, knowing two of Pelosi's Angels didn't have to live in the shadows, welcomed by another Democrat sanctuary city.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (54tqh)

117 93 >>>It gets worse: the two illegal aliens "likely" sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death

You're saying that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Pro-Palestinian Supporter at June 25, 2024 01:39 PM (yOPBE)

Muslims *are* known for getting the order wrong on "rape and murder".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

Kill the men, rape the women, and steal the sheep. And get it RIGHT this time!

Posted by: John Wayne's Ghengis Khan at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (ynpvh)

118 So is my garage mop.
Posted by: wth at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

I have the scruples of a garage mop and have been in all the same places, does that count for anything?

Posted by: Kamala at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (ugRIO)

119 I consider Althouse a grade one imbecile.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (pohLc)

120 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Who you gonna believe, 16 Nobel Prize winning economists or your lying wallet?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (L/fGl)

121 50 Gee, I wonder if Jake will bring up gun control at the debate on Thursday?

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)

Mr. Trump, mass shootings occur by the dozens every day in the United States. Dozens. Every. Day. Women and children are disproportionately the victims of these heinous shootings!Because you do not not support an assault weapons ban that would save the lives of the hundreds of thousands killed AR-15s each year, as President why shouldn't you be charged as an accessory to the crime in every mass shooting in this nation? I must add that your opponent is on the right side of history and of humanity on this issue.

Posted by: Jake Tapper, ultra-impartial and fair debate moderator at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (5fDan)

122 98 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 01:43 PM (uxCna)

Well, for them yes; they're CIA payoffs are quite nice.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

123 I have the scruples of a garage mop and have been in all the same places, does that count for anything?
Posted by: Kamala at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (ugRIO)

You've used a garage mop to clean the remnants after your shift in the government gloryhole.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

124 I consider Althouse a grade one imbecile.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 01:46 PM (pohLc)
---------------

Yeah, she made a name for herself covering the nonsense in Wisconsin but still voted Democrat.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 25, 2024 01:47 PM (tT6L1)

125 Such a rally just might put a few dents in the Chicago machine.

The famous Chicago machine broke down years ago and was replaced by the teacher's union. There's a reason the current mayor is from the teacher's union.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2024 01:47 PM (2ocoG)

126 101 Youngkin is not my favorite. I'm disappointed that he may be the VP. I think he smells like Pence.

I'd like for any of you to talk me off the edge on that one.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (JeYYB)

Ask Joey; he know smells.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

127 120 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

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Didn't we do that bullshit with (fill in the blank) amount of FBI agents saying the dossier was legit?

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:48 PM (JeYYB)

128 Invasion. Not immigration.

Posted by: Eromero at June 25, 2024 01:48 PM (tJ0LD)

129 Trump should tell fapper; Hey Jake, stop editorializing during the debate.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 25, 2024 01:48 PM (NtVYv)

130 Trump Wants Immigrants to Fight. Biden wants them to thrive.

Trump said, “We have probably close to 20 million people [actually, more like 11 million] that came in from all parts of the world and they’re going to have to be gone. They came illegally. Many, many people coming in from prisons and mental institutions.”

The reality is, Biden was ready to tighten the asylum system and border security months ago. But on Trump’s command, conservatives abandoned the tough bipartisan package. The former president said he wanted to campaign on the issue—and that is one promise he’s kept.

Most Americans support Biden's immigration goals, according to new Equis Research polling of seven swing states and four that lean Democratic. “Americans prefer a both/and approach to immigration,” Equis cofounder Carlos Odio told journalists last week. “They want to see order at the border, but they also want to see something done for those who have been here a long time, like the families that we are talking about today.”

Posted by: Intercepted The Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 25, 2024 01:49 PM (JCZqz)

131 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation".
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Listen Paul, just cause you put 16 different middle initials before Krugman doesn't make you 16 Nobel Prize winners.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:49 PM (54tqh)

132 The reality is, Biden was ready to tighten the asylum system and border security months ago. But on Trump’s command, conservatives abandoned the tough bipartisan package. The former president said he wanted to campaign on the issue—and that is one promise he’s kept.

The package passed. We're still seeing thousands a day, now allowed by that shit package.

You people are insanely stupid. It burns.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

133 101 Youngkin is not my favorite. I'm disappointed that he may be the VP. I think he smells like Pence.

I'd like for any of you to talk me off the edge on that one.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (JeYYB)

I don't think he's another Pence. He's worked with the Virginia Attorney General to push back on transgender madness in schools and promote parental accountability. His hands are somewhat tied because he has a Democrat General Assembly. However, he's seemingly used the limited powers of the Virginia governor is a solidly conservative manner.

In other words, on a scale of Ron DeSantis to Larry Hogan, he's much closer to DeSantis than Hogan.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:50 PM (a/dOO)

134 Trump should tell fapper; Hey Jake, stop editorializing during the debate.

I would look at Tapper and say "I didn't realize there were two Democrat candidate for president this year."

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:50 PM (xCA6C)

135 The deciding issue will be the quality of the plumbing in Fulton County.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 01:50 PM (ugRIO)

136 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation"
-

This has to be a joke. People literally are no longer buying things because their lives were wrecked economically by the government, on purpose.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - if you can't pick your adjectives, how can you pick your pronouns? at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (87g7a)

137 130
...
Posted by: Intercepted The Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 25, 2024 01:49 PM (JCZqz)

It's amazing how Trump was able to get as much done on immigration during his presidency despite the opposition to his policies. But somehow, Joey needs Congress to allow tons more in so Joey can fix a problem he created.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

138 Such a rally just might put a few dents in the Chicago machine.

The States Attorney (district attorney) for Cook County, Kim Foxx, has been routinely reducing the charges for severe assault from felonies to misdemeanors.

For example, a couple was attacked in downtown Chicago recently by two "youths". The woman was pregnant and lost the baby as a result.

Misdemeanors.

Foxx just got in a dispute with a driver in the suburb where she lives, and the driver threw a root beer on her.

He's been charged with two felonies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (uxCna)

139 Trump-Youngkin sounds like shit. Trump won't pick him for that alone.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (ugRIO)

140 16 Nobel prize winning economists and $15 will get you a cup of coffee in BidenTown.

A mule and $15 will get you two cups.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (54tqh)

141 I don't think he's another Pence. He's worked with the Virginia Attorney General to push back on transgender madness in schools and promote parental accountability. His hands are somewhat tied because he has a Democrat General Assembly. However, he's seemingly used the limited powers of the Virginia governor is a solidly conservative manner.

In other words, on a scale of Ron DeSantis to Larry Hogan, he's much closer to DeSantis than Hogan.

You can tell by listening to him speak extemporaneously that he's no robotic Pence. There's a brain functioning in there.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:52 PM (xCA6C)

142 Pablo is a hack retard ass-sucking leech.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June

I think Elric is my soulmate. He says the things I am thinking but am too lady like to say out loud.

Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)
_______

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. I think . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

143 >>The reality is, Biden was ready to tighten the asylum system and border security months ago. But on Trump’s command, conservatives abandoned the tough bipartisan package. The former president said he wanted to campaign on the issue—and that is one promise he’s kept.

The reality is that bill would have allowed up to 5,000 illegal per day until Biden even had the authority to call for closing the border. The authority not a rule.

It was a fake rule designed for fake Republicans. Anyone who actually paid attention knows it was just an opportunity for Biden to pretend he was doing something. Trump never got Congress' help to do anything on the border yet he had the best border numbers since the BP started keeping stats.

Lying bags of shit are going to lying bags of shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (LkLld)

144 that's true - Trump-Youngkin does sound bad

hmm

Trump-Vance sounds DYNAMIC

make it so!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (s3qiR)

145 140 16 Nobel prize winning economists and $15 will get you a cup of coffee in BidenTown.

A mule and $15 will get you two cups.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:51 PM (54tqh)

Punchline: Kumala will do things even the mule won't.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

146
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. I think . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

Right up to the moment where you post it on the internet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

147 I wonder what Youngkin's position is on amnesty, crime, trade, the Middle East, the deep state, corruption, etc.

I'm glad he's solid on the tranny nonsense but others are equally important.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (JeYYB)

148 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (LkLld)

____________________________________

Jack...open your eyes. They can cheat right out in front of everyone and there is no recourse. They OWN the Department of Justice. The DOJ has shown that they are perfectly willing to target those who challenge elections. Additionally, as they did with Michigan, the DOJ is perfectly willing to bury documentation of fraud on massive levels.

Now, think about all the efforts they have applied already to assure the 2024 outcome (including making up indictments, hypocritically applying indictments in a two tier fashion, trying to pull Trump off the ballot in multiple states without cause, collecting political prisoners etc...the list is long). To think that Trump will ever see the Oval office again is ridiculously naive.

Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (dIske)

149 Sixteen Nobel Prize winning economists just announced that any claim that the economy is doing badly under Biden is "Russian disinformation"

This is a joke, of course - their actual claim is that inflation is sharply down under Biden, and that Trump will reignite inflation if he wins.

Academics turned political hacks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (uxCna)

150 It’s funny because over 75% polled in 2016 were concerned with immigration, wanted it better controlled.

2016.
That’s why Trump won the GOP nomination and the presidency.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (Hkcdp)

151 What I'm trying to say is that here in the Magnolia state, if you're charged with a capital crime, it is by definition a death penalty offense. If the two murderers of the young girl were already charged with capital crimes, why would there need to be further evidence to bring the death penalty into play?

As I say, I'm not a lawyer, and Mississippi may be an outlier on this. God knows we certainly are on a ton of things. Is there such a thing as provisional charging in the jurisdiction where the crime took place?

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (ENHQb)

152 107 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.

Posted by: Seems Legit

Well, yeah. So is my dog. Low bar.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
.......

So is my garage mop.
Posted by: wth at June 25, 2024 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

; )

Posted by: m at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (NHMTR)

153 148 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (LkLld)

____________________________________

Jack...open your eyes. They can cheat right out in front of everyone and there is no recourse. They OWN the Department of Justice. The DOJ has shown that they are perfectly willing to target those who challenge elections. Additionally, as they did with Michigan, the DOJ is perfectly willing to bury documentation of fraud on massive levels.

Now, think about all the efforts they have applied already to assure the 2024 outcome (including making up indictments, hypocritically applying indictments in a two tier fashion, trying to pull Trump off the ballot in multiple states without cause, collecting political prisoners etc...the list is long). To think that Trump will ever see the Oval office again is ridiculously naive.

Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (dIske)

Battle of Athens, 1946

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

154 Cartels rule the border. If we can't keep the cartel's clients out of the country, there's no way we can control the illegal firearms and drugs pouring into the US.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (rj6Yv)

155 that's true - Trump-Youngkin does sound bad

hmm

Trump-Vance sounds DYNAMIC

make it so!

Except that it would immediately transmogrify into Trumpkin! That would be awesome.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (xCA6C)

156 Admittedly, the label "national treasure" is an overused term but I have three candidates:
Bill Melugin,
Selena Zito, and
Catherine Herridge

Posted by: J C RHOADES at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (Hoe3u)

157 Trump-Youngkin sounds like shit. Trump won't pick him for that alone.
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Gore-Lieberman
Kerry - Edwards
Clinton ‐ Kane
Mondale- Benson

I mean, there's no predictive value in the names.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (54tqh)

158 What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. I think . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

Right up to the moment where you post it on the internet.
Posted by: Sponge

Right up to the moment where you bring it home and infect the wife....

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (1UfpD)

159 The US should not be burdened with incarcerating foreign criminals.

Send them back home with a chip in their brain. If they come with ten miles of the US border, it explodes.

End of problem.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (BVYOm)

160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

161 IF TRUE, I wonder why he picked Youngkin.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (JeYYB)

162 Trump-Trump. Is that legal, put Don Jr in, heh

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (NtVYv)

163 re 16 nobel prize economists: most economists are full of keynesean crap. if i recall correctly they are worried that trump will raise tariffs and not raise taxes when inflation (cpi) is sort of maybe under some control of sorts. bring the cost of energy back to where it was the day biden took the oaf of office would have a bigger effect than most things the gov't could do. closing the border wouldn't hurt either. oh, and maybe not spend billions and billions of dollars on dreams of charging stations and covering the deserts with solar panels

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (CWTWj)

164 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

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Of course.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (JeYYB)

165 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?

Who knows when the plumbing will go south?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (xCA6C)

166 To think that Trump will ever see the Oval office again is ridiculously naive.
Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM (dIske)

No, it isn't. In fact, I think it's quite likely.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (rj6Yv)

167 Cartels rule the border. If we can't keep the cartel's clients out of the country, there's no way we can control the illegal firearms and drugs pouring into the US.
Posted by: mrp

Defend the border with lethal force. Start busting caps in asses.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (1UfpD)

168 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

An AI version of Biden with pre-recorded responses will be seen on TV.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (ynpvh)

169 159 The US should not be burdened with incarcerating foreign criminals.

Send them back home with a chip in their brain. If they come with ten miles of the US border, it explodes.

End of problem.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (BVYOm)

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I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (JeYYB)

170 >> It’s funny because over 75% polled in 2016 were concerned with immigration, wanted it better controlled.
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the other 25% who were poled said it was very uncomfortable and they did not care for it

Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 01:57 PM (/7KEl)

171 153 148 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (LkLld)

Obvious, and successful. Whose the judge that would even touch it?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:57 PM (OiAR7)

172 152 107 Knowing I'm smarter than Karine Jean Pierre gives me no solace.
Posted by: Seems Legit

So is my garage mop.
Posted by: wth

I'm way hotter than that skank, too! Better hair, and natural color!

Posted by: Wth's garage mop at June 25, 2024 01:57 PM (JCZqz)

173 167 Cartels rule the border. If we can't keep the cartel's clients out of the country, there's no way we can control the illegal firearms and drugs pouring into the US.
Posted by: mrp

Defend the border with lethal force. Start busting caps in asses.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (1UfpD)

Normally they're called mules.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:57 PM (ynpvh)

174 168 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

An AI version of Biden with pre-recorded responses will be seen on TV.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:56 PM (ynpvh)

Lol keep em in separate rooms.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (OiAR7)

175 Battle of Athens, 1946
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Lol, speaking of ...

Two Dems and two Rs former electeds have teamed in GA to combat election disinformation.

In case you were unsure whether the GA GOP are cucks.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (54tqh)

176 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

Yes, with the moderators finishing his answers for him, having already been given the transcript of the responses Biden is "really" meaning to say to the questions that absolutely were not provided to him beforehand.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (a/dOO)

177 171 153 148 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 01:45 PM (LkLld)

Obvious, and successful. Whose the judge that would even touch it?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:57 PM (OiAR7)

Not even SCOTUS

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

178 There will be 15 minute lag behind of the televised debate, so they have time to deceptively edit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 01:59 PM (pohLc)

179 I wonder what Youngkin's position is on amnesty, crime, trade, the Middle East, the deep state, corruption, etc.

I'm glad he's solid on the tranny nonsense but others are equally important.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 25, 2024 01:53 PM

I would correlate "anti-tranny" very highly with good positions on all of the above.

Posted by: Chuck C at June 25, 2024 01:59 PM (yOPBE)

180 >>Jack...open your eyes. They can cheat right out in front of everyone and there is no recourse. They OWN the Department of Justice. The DOJ has shown that they are perfectly willing to target those who challenge elections. Additionally, as they did with Michigan, the DOJ is perfectly willing to bury documentation of fraud on massive levels.

Yes, yes. And Trump can't win the primary. And lawfare will take Trump out. And we can't possibly ever win again so we might as all just give up.

Fuck that noise. Just yesterday America 1st Legal sent out legal notices to help all 50 states combat illegal aliens registering to vote. The new RNC is actively working on early voting and legal ballot harvesting. Scott Pressler has spent the last year registering voters in swing states and he's now within striking distance of flipping Bucks Country in PA.

A new independent voter oversight group has been established by the GA Congress because they admit that while there is nothing they can do about 2020 the want to prevent it from happening in 2024. These things are happening all over and pretending they aren't is well, naive.

If you want to give up have at it. I'm not going to.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (LkLld)

181 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

An AI version of Biden with pre-recorded responses will be seen on TV.
Posted by: jim

Claim: Moon landing in '69 was CGI.
CGI in 1986: Max Headroom

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (1UfpD)

182 176 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

Yes, with the moderators finishing his answers for him, having already been given the transcript of the responses Biden is "really" meaning to say to the questions that absolutely were not provided to him beforehand.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (a/dOO)

They'll have a sign-language translator and a Biden-English translator.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (ynpvh)

183 I'm sure the debate will be on a time delay, as much as a minute, in case CNN needs to edit on the fly

Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (/7KEl)

184 Come to think of it, Trump should shift focus to the cartels "calling the shots" on the border. Biden has surrendered our border to the Cartels. Mexican organized crime syndicates. That makes things a lot more serious than the Biden representation of desperate souls searching for a better life BS.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (rj6Yv)

185 Part of me thinks the junta (the ones running the show) would like to see a public uprising against the illegals so they could leverage the unrest for "other things" likely to keep them in power. Whatever those might be...

The other part of me thinks there was/is a concerted effort by the same people to leverage the illegals as legit voters (ballots) that could be hand waved away as the margin of winning.

Whatever the case, the left doesn't care about the actual people. They do care how those people affect their status and claim to power.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (Q4IgG)

186 Pablo is a hack retard ass-sucking leech.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June

I think Elric is my soulmate. He says the things I am thinking but am too lady like to say out loud.

Except that Las Vegas thing. Never, ever, thought that. Ever.

Posted by: Piper at June 25, 2024 01:38 PM (2N3ca)

LOL, I think he hoped that would remain in Vegas (and the last thread).

Elric's only hope now is that Fen shows up and accidently kills him.

Posted by: tbodie, Lurker. Unless you are reading this at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (D//58)

187 Yes, with the moderators finishing his answers for him, having already been given the transcript of the responses Biden is "really" meaning to say to the questions that absolutely were not provided to him beforehand.
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Lol, can you imagine Trump starts reading the response ahead of Biden?
In his mock Biden voice?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (54tqh)

188 162 Trump-Trump. Is that legal, put Don Jr in, heh
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

With all this talk of Young-kin....Jack, if I had an 11 year-old daughter, I'd like to shower with her AND have her as my running mate!

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

189 What would be funny is if Trump is shown as Trump and Biden is replaced by Max Headroom in the debate.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (pohLc)

190 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw

It was obvious, and the supreme court, in the very case it was designed for, refused to hear it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (lTGtQ)

191 >>Obvious, and successful. Who's the judge that would even touch it?

The key is to stop it before the election. Steps are being taken.

Here's just one.

https://aflegal.org

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 02:02 PM (LkLld)

192 What was that REDACTED comment about? Oh, it's gone.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

193 Leigh Phillips
@Leigh_Phillips

He said that around 2017, the ‘Green New Deal’ message actually did very well. But there are what he called “tripwires” that undo even popular positions/policies/messages, and the left began to set off some of those tripwires…

… The message “Green New Deal” now *isn’t* associated with government investment to spur on good jobs and economic development; instead it became associated with bans on burgers and flying, and in particular provoked a fear of making energy expensive.

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2024 02:03 PM (RHGPo)

194 I mean, there's no predictive value in the names.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (54tqh)

There is with Trump. He is a marketer almost first and foremost.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:04 PM (ugRIO)

195 189 What would be funny is if Trump is shown as Trump and Biden is replaced by Max Headroom in the debate.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (pohLc)

We've secretly replaced Joe Biden with Max Headroom. Let's see if anybody notices...

Posted by: the Folgers Debate at June 25, 2024 02:04 PM (ynpvh)

196 189 What would be funny is if Trump is shown as Trump and Biden is replaced by Max Headroom in the debate.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (pohLc)

Well they both "stutter" since birth.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 02:04 PM (OiAR7)

197
As I say, I'm not a lawyer, and Mississippi may be an outlier on this. God knows we certainly are on a ton of things. Is there such a thing as provisional charging in the jurisdiction where the crime took place?
Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 25, 2024 01:54 PM (ENHQb)

It is my understanding capital crimes are death penalty eligible. I'm reading the illegals are denying participating. The DA wants to build an airtight case before upgrading the charges..

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 02:04 PM (o3Uyl)

198 Normally the death penalty is not a deterrent to murder. Most death row inmates sit in prison for years. At least in Texas you have a good shot at actually dying by whatever method they use now. Personally, I think it should be a pay per view and the audience gets to decide the penalty.

Posted by: Megthered at June 25, 2024 02:05 PM (49Sxk)

199 Look at the modern winning combos, they pretty much all sound good

Clinton-Gore
Bush-Cheney
Obama-Biden
Trump-Pence
Trump-Pence again

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:05 PM (ugRIO)

200 198 Normally the death penalty is not a deterrent to murder. Most death row inmates sit in prison for years. At least in Texas you have a good shot at actually dying by whatever method they use now. Personally, I think it should be a pay per view and the audience gets to decide the penalty.

Posted by: Megthered at June 25, 2024 02:05 PM (49Sxk)

Of course, if any are from Mehico, that country will protest.

Posted by: the Folgers Debate at June 25, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

201 These things are happening all over and pretending they aren't is well, naive.
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Yup.
And lawsuits now, not ad hoc post facto.

They tried a sting on Rodger Stone. But all I got out of it is Trump isn't counting on "outside the margin of cheat" like he did in 2020.
Stone stated and hinted at a lot churning out of sight and headlines that Trump is doing to prevent cheating.

And to Pressler, he notes he reached out to Ronna multiple times but within a week was sitting down with Laura.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:06 PM (54tqh)

202 199 Look at the modern winning combos, they pretty much all sound good

Clinton-Gore
Bush-Cheney
Obama-Biden
Trump-Pence
Trump-Pence again

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:05 PM (ugRIO)

Weiner-Holder...
Oh, that's not right.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

203 It was obvious, and the supreme court, in the very case it was designed for, refused to hear it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 02:01 PM (lTGtQ)

There is an ancient American tradition that is based on fact and experience - never issue a ruling or an order that's ahead of public opinion. The best example of that is Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation timing. What is possible in 2024 was impossible to do in 2020.

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 02:07 PM (rj6Yv)

204 re 16 nobel prize economists: most economists are full of keynesean crap.

Several very good economists are on that list, unfortunately.

They're just representing the class interests of elite academics, and some of them may be hoping to become Secretary of the Treasury or Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors in Biden's second term.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (uxCna)

205 Normally the death penalty is not a deterrent to murder. Most death row inmates sit in prison for years. At least in Texas you have a good shot at actually dying by whatever method they use now. Personally, I think it should be a pay per view and the audience gets to decide the penalty.
Posted by: Megthered

It's not and has never been a deterrent to murder.

It IS a deterrent to repeat offenders. 100%.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (1UfpD)

206 Look at the modern winning combos, they pretty much all sound good
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I mean, yeah.

Selecting only the winners has a pretty good track record of who the winners are ...

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (54tqh)

207 I do believe other states are tightening up against cheating

but not PA

hopefully Trump can win without us. there is no "outside the margin of fraud" here. and Shapiro delivered us to Biden as AG and is now Governor.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (s3qiR)

208 Al Franken and Jill Stein

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (ugRIO)

209 204 re 16 nobel prize economists: most economists are full of keynesean crap.

Several very good economists are on that list, unfortunately.

They're just representing the class interests of elite academics, and some of them may be hoping to become Secretary of the Treasury or Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors in Biden's second term.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (uxCna)

Probably think that Chy-na's economy is the kind we should have, comrade.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

210 " Personally, I think it should be a pay per view and the audience gets to decide the penalty.
Posted by: Megthered"

I'm for the manner that they inflicted on their victims.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (vFG9F)

211 176 160 Do you think they cut away from Biden when he glitches?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 25, 2024 01:55 PM (OiAR7)

Yes, with the moderators finishing his answers for him, having already been given the transcript of the responses Biden is "really" meaning to say to the questions that absolutely were not provided to him beforehand.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 25, 2024 01:58 PM (a/dOO)

Jake and Dana will correct every one of Joe's word blunders. If Joe says Iraq instead of Iran, for example, the two CNN clowns will absolutely interrupt Joe by saying, "Mr. President, don't you mean Iran, not Iraq?" Because they cannot permit The Donald to correct Joe when it is his turn for the active mic. In turn they will not correct The Donald so Joe can laugh and say, "My opponent doesn't know X from Y! How can anyone consider voting for him to be President? (snicker, snicker)"

Posted by: Jake Tapper, ultra-impartial and fair debate moderator at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (5fDan)

212 Normally they're called mules.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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* golf clap *

Posted by: scampydog at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (2bFN5)

213 206 Look at the modern winning combos, they pretty much all sound good
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I mean, yeah.

Selecting only the winners has a pretty good track record of who the winners are ...

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (54tqh)

There's a name for that bias.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

214 Selecting only the winners has a pretty good track record of who the winners are ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:08 PM (54tqh)

Huh? The conversation is about it being better to sound good than to not sound good, not that it guarantees a win? What the hell?

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (ugRIO)

215 Yowza! Off Jake sock!!!!

Posted by: Jake Tapper, ultra-impartial and fair debate moderator at June 25, 2024 02:09 PM (5fDan)

216 They will cheat. They always do. But everyone is watching now and the cheating it will take to make Biden even competitive will be way more than in 2020 and it was obvious as hell then.
Posted by: JackStraw

It was obvious, and the supreme court, in the very case it was designed for, refused to hear it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

I still say, since the SCOTUS abdicated their responsibility, that Texas should have declared war on Pennsylvania.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 02:10 PM (1UfpD)

217 What is it with all these illegal alien scumbags and their fetish for raping young girls? I don't think any demographic rapes girls with the frequency that Latino men do. What's up with these sicko motherfuckers?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 02:10 PM (iFTx/)

218 It is my understanding capital crimes are death penalty eligible. I'm reading the illegals are denying participating. The DA wants to build an airtight case before upgrading the charges..
Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Penci

Thanks - I think I understand now. If only hanging, drawing, and quartering were on the table as an option for the State to visit upon those vibrant newcomers.

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (ENHQb)

219 The death penalty is punishment

this idea that it might be some kind of deterrent, as written about by those bilious bastards at the Saturday Evening Post, is a bunch of horse dung.

Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (/7KEl)

220 mr president, can you tell the american people why you believe that allowing honest hard working foreigners into our country during a time of nearly record low unemployment is good for the economy?

mr trump, can you explain how quantum computing might negatively affect some parts of the high tech economy as well as its likely impact on advanced medical and geophysical research?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (CWTWj)

221 I don't think any demographic rapes girls with the frequency that Latino men do. What's up with these sicko motherfuckers?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 02:10 PM (iFTx/)

It is the way of my people, remember.

Posted by: Muhamhead at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

222 If you pay attention, the vast majority of murderers are stupid as a pile of rat poo. They aren't gonna get caught, when in fact, they will get caught, if the cops want to catch them. They are stupid and screw up.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (pohLc)

223 Yowza Yowza Off Jake sock!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Gref, today's Lamont the Dummy at June 25, 2024 02:11 PM (5fDan)

224 I don't think any demographic rapes girls with the frequency that Latino men do. What's up with these sicko motherfuckers?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 02:10 PM (iFTx/)
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Well, I can think of ONE demographic that's into it, because their "Prophet" (spit) condoned it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 25, 2024 02:12 PM (7fElN)

225 As I said Trump is a marketer, I strongly believe he will want his brand to sound good. You don't have to agree with me. I made no argument that winners all sounds good, you are the one who listed losing tickets to prove it's not important.

Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:12 PM (ugRIO)

226 Jackstraw's eternal optimism must be a manifestation of his wastedness.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:12 PM (vFG9F)

227 The cops normally know who the murderer is within 24 hours. The rest of the job is gathering the proof.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:13 PM (pohLc)

228 As I said Trump is a marketer, I strongly believe he will want his brand to sound good. You don't have to agree with me. I made no argument that winners all sounds good, you are the one who listed losing tickets to prove it's not important.
Posted by: ... at June 25, 2024 02:12 PM (ugRIO)
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Trump-Blade has a nice ring to it!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 02:13 PM (iFTx/)

229 It's not and has never been a deterrent to murder.

It IS a deterrent to repeat offenders. 100%.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024

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I suspect the death penalty was more of a deterrent when society applied it swiftly and evenly, when years, decades, did not go by between crime and trial and between conviction and execution. It would certainly deter me, and anybody else who understands that actions now will have consequences in the future.

Of course, a lot of criminals, then and now, act on impulse and *don't* think ahead. For them, a nebulous idea, a low chance, of riding Ol' Sparky would be no deterrent compared to a payoff now.

But you're right; once it's been applied, the star of the show will never be a repeat offender.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (J2vNu)

230 LOL, I think he hoped that would remain in Vegas (and the last thread).

Elric's only hope now is that Fen shows up and accidently kills him.

Build a bridge, they call you a bridge-builder. Make a joke about not knowing if you fucked a dude in Vegas ...

Posted by: Just the Punchline at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (yOPBE)

231 Bill Maher says that Democrats' stance on immigration will get them "f*cked" on election day.

I'm concerned the opposite is the case. I keep seeing articles/news items about illegals being given voter registration forms. If they vote in numbers that will not get unwound in the courts in a timely fashion.

Posted by: Doom Lite - Same Bitter Taste, Less Filling at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (bDO8y)

232 The death penalty is punishment

this idea that it might be some kind of deterrent, as written about by those bilious bastards at the Saturday Evening Post, is a bunch of horse dung.

Well, each application deters at least one person from committing more crimes.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (/y8xj)

233 Even torture then drawing and quartering won't stop murder, but I bet it would cause some second thoughts.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (vFG9F)

234 If you want to give up have at it. I'm not going to.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 02:00 PM (LkLld)

_____________________________

I think you missed my point. If they are perfectly willing to do what they have so far (acts so outlandish that if you told yourself 10 years ago that it would happen, you wouldn't believe it...They actually changed the law in a state to file charges on Trump and ignored how it would effect commerce in that particular state).

Imagine how truly far they are willing to take this. At this point it would be crazy to take any acts off the table no matter how obvious, egregious or damaging.

Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2024 02:15 PM (dIske)

235
Illegal alien Illegal alien Illegal alien Illegal alien Illegal alien Illegal alien Fuck you, cocksucker, Illegal alien Illegal alien Illegal alien

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2024 02:15 PM (n+4am)

236 If Joe says Iraq instead of Iran, for example, the two CNN clowns will absolutely interrupt Joe by saying, "Mr. President, don't you mean Iran, not Iraq?"

Are you nuts? The last thing they'll do is draw ATTENTION to Biden's gaffes. They'll say nothing as it happens, nodding along with Joe's gibberish responses, and if Trump brings it up, they'll interrupt him and say Biden was obviously speaking off the cuff, mixed up names, it happens to everyone, Trump mixed up Pelosi and Haley's names, etc.

The media won't report it in general, and if any Joe gaffes DO catch on social media, they'll show it in side-by-side comparisons with the one or two similar Trump gaffes to show both candidates are basically equal.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 25, 2024 02:15 PM (JCZqz)

237 233 Even torture then drawing and quartering won't stop murder, but I bet it would cause some second thoughts.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (vFG9F)

As someone previously posted, recidivism is 0% after the execution.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:16 PM (ynpvh)

238 The Nobel for economics is a Swiss bank sponsored award presented by the Nobel prize group.
It's a bullshit award.

Posted by: Reforger at June 25, 2024 02:16 PM (xcIvR)

239 The death penalty might deter or it might not but it sure as shit takes out the trash.

Posted by: nckate at June 25, 2024 02:16 PM (4bYb7)

240 233 Even torture then drawing and quartering won't stop murder, but I bet it would cause some second thoughts.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (vFG9F)

You don't coddle a rabid animal hoping it will get over it's disease.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

241 >> Jackstraw's eternal optimism must be a manifestation of his wastedness.

It's not optimism. I know they will cheat. I just believe there are limits to how much they can cheat and how much the American people will ultimately take.

And I don't like giving up before the game is played. I was here in 2016 when it was laughable to think Trump could beat the inevitable Hillary.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 25, 2024 02:17 PM (LkLld)

242 I'm concerned the opposite is the case. I keep seeing articles/news items about illegals being given voter registration forms. If they vote in numbers that will not get unwound in the courts in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Doom Lite - Same Bitter Taste, Less Filling at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (bDO8y)

Just read something a bit ago where Illinois has begun giving illegals driver's licenses.

You can already go to the California DMV site, click no dl# and no SS# and it takes you right to the voter registration page.

They ARE replacing you, most are just too stupid to realize it. Once they don't need your vote, they don't need YOU anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 25, 2024 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

243 220 mr president, can you tell the american people why ~~you believe that allowing honest hard working foreigners into our country during a time of nearly record low unemployment is good for the economy?~~ mint chocolate chip is the best ice cream?

mr trump, can you explain how quantum computing might negatively affect some parts of the high tech economy as well as its likely impact on advanced medical and geophysical research?

fixt for accuracy

Posted by: cheap fake anachronda at June 25, 2024 02:17 PM (sGtp+)

244 The Nobel for economics is a Swiss bank sponsored award presented by the Nobel prize group.
It's a bullshit award.
Posted by: Reforger at June 25, 2024 02:16 PM (xcIvR)

It still comes with a fat check!

*tee hee*

Posted by: Paul Krugman at June 25, 2024 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

245 233 Even torture then drawing and quartering won't stop murder, but I bet it would cause some second thoughts.
Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:14 PM (vFG9F)

The Saudis have public beheadings and cut hands off for theft.

What is the crime rate over there? Just wondering

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 02:18 PM (o3Uyl)

246 as many have pointed out, it's 3 on 1 in that debate Thursday night

Jake Tapper probably sees it as his sacred duty to PERSONALLY derail Trump's bid for the White House

Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 02:18 PM (/7KEl)

247 If you want to give up have at it. I'm not going to.
Posted by: JackStraw

I believe in fighting, but just keep in mind that several members of the deep state and DOD are currently meeting to devise a way to physically prevent Trump from taking office if it gets that far. That is what we are dealing with.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 02:18 PM (lTGtQ)

248 243 220 mr president, can you tell the american people why ~~you believe that allowing honest hard working foreigners into our country during a time of nearly record low unemployment is good for the economy?~~ mint chocolate chip is the best ice cream?

mr trump, can you explain how quantum computing might negatively affect some parts of the high tech economy as well as its likely impact on advanced medical and geophysical research?

fixt for accuracy

Posted by: cheap fake anachronda at June 25, 2024 02:17 PM (sGtp+)

You trust AI to Kumala? She sucks at her job.

Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

249 Geez. off sucky sock.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

250 The ancient argument is that the death penalty teaches the offender nothing. Well, that's true. However, we have no way of being sure that said offender really has learned anything, i.e., sworn off killing under any and all circumstances in the future.

We can, however, make sure he doesn't do it again.

"Throw the switch, Mr. Perkins!" ZZZT-ZAP!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

251 The Nobel for economics is a Swiss bank sponsored award presented by the Nobel prize group.
It's a bullshit award.
Posted by: Reforger at June 25, 2024 02:16 PM (xcIvR)
________

"Fuck you!"

-- Paul Krugman

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

252 246 as many have pointed out, it's 3 on 1 in that debate Thursday night

Jake Tapper probably sees it as his sacred duty to PERSONALLY derail Trump's bid for the White House
Posted by: Don Black at June 25, 2024 02:18 PM (/7KEl)

I owe it to the troops, whom I support!

Posted by: Jake Tapdancer at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (bDO8y)

253 You can already go to the California DMV site, click no dl# and no SS# and it takes you right to the voter registration page.

They ARE replacing you, most are just too stupid to realize it. Once they don't need your vote, they don't need YOU anymore.

Posted by: Sponge

They are banking on 7 million illegal aliens voting in November.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 25, 2024 02:20 PM (lTGtQ)

254 You trust AI to Kumala? She sucks at her job.
Posted by: Kumala at June 25, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

Kumala's lips do look comfortable.....

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2024 02:20 PM (pohLc)

255 I'll settle for no less than an Andronicus for Trump's VP.

Anything less and I'll not vote!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 25, 2024 02:20 PM (k1Hnl)

256 @235 while it seems to be dark times, the main hope I have is that these people running the show are wholly incompetent and delusional. Their revolution will collapse in on itself. The shift of African Americans and Hispanics towards Trump shows those groups, and some middle class whites , are watching this collapse and are horrified.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 25, 2024 02:20 PM (N+p0+)

257 What are the top issues for the people who made the boxes of ballets that we're going to find in the trunk of Democrat poll-workers' cars after the election during recounts?

Feel like those peoples' top issues are what matters, since they're the ones who end up deciding the elections.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 25, 2024 02:21 PM (B9Prs)

258 I believe in fighting, but just keep in mind that several members of the deep state and DOD are currently meeting to devise a way to physically prevent Trump from taking office if it gets that far. That is what we are dealing with.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll try a coup if Trump wins.

Whether they succeed or not is another matter - one of the strengths of the United States is that the states still have a lot of power - more than half the states will simply ignore illegitimate orders coming out of Washington DC.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 02:21 PM (uxCna)

259 I'm rich and you're not.

And I didn't spend ONE MINUTE losing sleep over all the retirees that lost every bit of their retirement money.

Not One Minute.

*tee hee*

Posted by: Paul Krugman at June 25, 2024 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

260 I, also, don't think the deep state will allow Trump to take office. Either there will be a massive attack on US soil, Russia/China/Iran nukes someone or Trump will mysteriously become incapacitated. They can't afford to allow him to take the iath if office.

Posted by: Megthered at June 25, 2024 02:22 PM (49Sxk)

261 Special Counsel Jack Smith responded to President Trump’s motion to dismiss the classified documents case based on the “spoliation” of evidence.

Jack Smith admitted the FBI doctored evidence to produce stunt photos of classified documents during the Mar-a-Lago raid.

Hmm with Trumps return to the White House seemingly imminent a large number of criminals are fessing up funny that !!!!

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 02:23 PM (o3Uyl)

262 Nood

Posted by: nckate at June 25, 2024 02:23 PM (4bYb7)

263 NOOD Coup

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 25, 2024 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

264 The scary thing about a death penalty is a case where the condemned person turns out to be innocent -- where the investigators were incompetent or biased, and so were the judge and prosecutor. Our society does make every effort to be certain we have the right person in the dock. But if the law makes a mistake, and the wrongly convicted man or woman later turns out (DNA evidence, anyone?) to be innocent . . . then what?

I suspect it happens a lot less than TV and movies make it out to occur, though. And that possibility is the reason for appeals, to give time if needed for more evidence to come to light.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 25, 2024 02:23 PM (J2vNu)

265 while it seems to be dark times, the main hope I have is that these people running the show are wholly incompetent and delusional.

As I've noted, we're not dealing with Bond villains here - we are dealing with mediocrities who got their positions through networking.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 25, 2024 02:23 PM (uxCna)

266 217 What is it with all these illegal alien scumbags and their fetish for raping young girls? I don't think any demographic rapes girls with the frequency that Latino men do. What's up with these sicko motherfuckers?
Posted by: Elric Blade

When only analysing rape assault cases in Sweeden, that is cases where perpetrator and victim were not previously acquainted, 97 out of 129 (75%) were born outside Europe, with 40 percent of these having been in Sweden for a year or less.

One guess where most of then came from. Hint: not South America.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 25, 2024 02:24 PM (JCZqz)

267 . . . crossing and turning yourself in is LEGAL

To play Devil's Advocate here: It IS "legal" in the sense that you will not suffer any legal consequences for your act; in fact, you are pretty much rewarded by the "Biden" Administration (i.e., the fascist Deep State, beefing up its sheeple constituency).

Posted by: one-eyed cat peeping in the seafood store at June 25, 2024 02:25 PM (Ybhj0)

268 > Just read something a bit ago where Illinois has begun giving illegals driver's licenses.
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I commented back in February and March that when I went to get the "Real ID" driver's license I saw many illegals there to do the same thing. Their immigration paperwork was pre-printed. They can take the written test in Spanish.

They can provide certain immigration paperwork in lieu of a passport or birth certificate to obtain a "Real ID" license.

With that they have access to federal facilities, can fly domestically, whatever else the ID permits. And I'd presume it would permit them to vote as well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 25, 2024 02:25 PM (Q4IgG)

269 They are banking on 7 million illegal aliens voting in November.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

They are banking on voting FOR the 7 million illegals.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2024 02:26 PM (1UfpD)

270 Even torture then drawing and quartering won't stop murder, but I bet it would cause some second thoughts.
Posted by: fd

I remember seeing something, possibly here on the blog, where the psychology of many offenders was illuminated by a question asked of a criminal who had beaten and robbed an elderly woman. When asked, how would you feel if you were old and frail and somebody beat you and stole all your money, the criminal was puzzled and said I'm not an old woman."

There's a serious disconnect there that seems to tie in more to IQ than sociopathy. I remember a conversation with someone where the subject of the presumption of innocence came up, and he didn't see the value of that concept. I asked if he really preferred the older, Roman law concept of guilty until prove innocent, and he said it would depend on the circumstances. He just couldn't wrap his mind around the difference and how it affected his own self-interest.

Posted by: John Drake Is Taking A Break Near Atyrau, North Of The Caspian Sea at June 25, 2024 02:26 PM (ENHQb)

271 I'm actually OK with the Supreme Court refusing to hear Texas v. Pennsylvania as non-justiciable, for a couple of reasons.

1. Presidents are actually elected by electors, not by voters, and each state is supposed to have a process that is created by its legislature to select electors. There doesn't even have to be a popular election. If Pennsylvania's legislature, which owns the process, did not sue to prevent the electors from being seated, then it's nobody else's business what Pennsylvania does.

2. Allowing Texas to object in the Supreme Court to how Pennsylvania runs its elections would open the doors to every losing state challenging every winning state after every election, and the President would in effect always be elected by the Supreme Court.

The can of worms that would have been opened (maybe Pandora's Box is a better metaphor) if the Supreme Court threw out Pennsylvania's election -- mind you, not at the request of Pennsylvanians, but at the request of Texans -- would have made this a completely different country.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 25, 2024 02:27 PM (r5tfK)

272 Alrighty Then! A winning strategy for sure... heh heh

President Joe Biden and Elton John will be visiting the site of the Stonewall Uprising, as he visits New York City this weekend.

Biden and John will be visiting the Stonewall Inn, to commemorate the gay rights riots that took place on June 28, 1969, according to the New York Post. The visit to the Stonewall Inn will come a day after Biden’s debate with former President Donald Trump, and before attending a fundraiser held at the Hammerstein Ballroom at the Manhattan Center.

Posted by: Im Gumby Damn It!/George Carlins Pencil at June 25, 2024 02:27 PM (o3Uyl)

273 I, also, don't think the deep state will allow Trump to take office. Either there will be a massive attack on US soil, Russia/China/Iran nukes someone or Trump will mysteriously become incapacitated. They can't afford to allow him to take the iath if office.
Posted by: Megthered at June 25, 2024 02:22 PM (49Sxk)

Who knows what goes on in the criminal mind?

Posted by: mrp at June 25, 2024 02:30 PM (rj6Yv)

274 Allowing Texas to object in the Supreme Court to how Pennsylvania runs its elections would open the doors to every losing state challenging every winning state after every election, and the President would in effect always be elected by the Supreme Court.

A very valid point. The other side of it, though, is that requiring a rogue state's election results to be challenged only by its residents, is like limiting a challenge to the wolves' dinner challenge only to the sheep. Texas's challenge to the Pennsylvania results was not over a mundane issue that can be raised in any election; it was about a state government gone radically rogue - with legislative function being overtly, and callously, usurped by the state judiciary.

Posted by: one-eyed cat peeping in the seafood store at June 25, 2024 02:36 PM (Ybhj0)

275 American Thinker had a good article how Pennsylvania elections are fked to no end.
If it doesn't get straightened out that's why I say Pa has no shot at voting for Trump no matter what the people vote

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2024 02:47 PM (fwDg9)

276 "And I don't like giving up before the game is played. I was here in 2016 when it was laughable to think Trump could beat the inevitable Hillary.
Posted by: JackStraw"

I'm with you there. I also remember that Steiner never showed up.

Posted by: fd at June 25, 2024 02:48 PM (vFG9F)

277 Guess I am willowed

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2024 02:53 PM (fwDg9)

278 Beau was also killed while protecting the border so don't tell me Biden doesn't understand the problem!

Posted by: Ripley at June 25, 2024 03:23 PM (GUOwU)

279 FREE REDACTED

Posted by: REDACTED at June 25, 2024 04:21 PM (us2H3)

280 More reasons to vote out Democrats their the biggest supporters of Illegal Aliens and Career Crinimal's

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 25, 2024 04:22 PM (wGqjj)

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