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Farm kid reminds me of a lot of my cousins when we were growing up. They turned out pretty well.
Posted by: huerfano at July 06, 2024 01:31 PM (VGOMa) 2
Breaking rocks in tje hot Sui fought the law and the law won
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:31 PM (fwDg9) 3
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Did pick a few chili peppers , have lots on not ripe. Cucumbers are starting but so far just 1 green tomato smaller than a baseball is all Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9) 4
Tractors make men100% sexy.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 01:37 PM (81wK+) 5
Shouldn't type on my phone.
Making a plywood box for the extra gable fan I have, maybe could use it in window of outbuilding Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:39 PM (fwDg9) Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 01:44 PM (t/2Uw) 7
My container tomatoes have been very weird this year. One looked big and healthy, started producng tomatoes and then brnches started falling off. Looks like I'll get some but probably not morethan the plant cost worth. The other one is small but producing these tiny yellow tomatoes that are quite good but again i don;t think I will get many. Think it's been way too hot.
Madea batch of pesto but didn;t even have enough to fill an ice cube tray. But left enough of the plant so maybe get somemore. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 01:49 PM (t/2Uw) 8
Starting to get some cherry tomatoes ripening.
The Tiny Tim's are surprisingly big and prolific, but don't have much taste. Disappointed in those. The Texas Wilds are tiny and wonderfully sweet. Petit Chocolats are marvelous, big and heavy like those old agate marbles, and they do have a taste of cocoa and are sweet. Still waiting on the Black Cherry ones, they are just starting to turn. Posted by: skywch at July 06, 2024 01:49 PM (uqhmb) 9
Tomatos are almost there
Strawberries are done; they did well peppers look very behind I think? zucchini also seems a bit behind last year IDK why Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 02:00 PM (s3qiR) 10
R.G. LeTorneau built lots of electric powered earthmovers for the military during WW II. Aircraft carrier mobile flightdeck cranes (nickname Tillie) are LeTorneau. The plant is in Longview, as well as the Christian-based LeTorneau University. The equipment had huge diesel engines powering electric motors at each wheel. So did WABCO (Westinghouse Air Brake Company) earthmovers.
LeTorneau was bought out by Komatsu. Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 02:00 PM (o2ZRX) 11
KT,
Hope you are feeling better. Thanks to you and all for the gorgeous photos. It's been unusually hot and dry in our area and I water the containers every day. The herbs are doing OK but the summer squash blossoms just withered away. Bummer. however, we have a few cherry tomatoes turning red. Now it's just a matter of whether we get to pick them before the squirrels decide it is time for a picnic. Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 02:01 PM (zudum) Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 02:06 PM (rrtZS) 13
I love those little buckeye butterflies. Their larvae feed on several common weeds.
Red admiral caterpillars feed on stinging nettle. Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 02:07 PM (rrtZS) 14
Speaking of squash, any truth to the bugs and vine borers being "done" by end of July into Aug and planting then can give a nice fall crop?
Posted by: TeeJ at July 06, 2024 02:08 PM (xZpzx) Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2024 02:10 PM (xjTDL) 16
I have 1 tomato plant, over 5 feet tall in a cage and yet to see 1 blossom on it
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 02:11 PM (fwDg9) 17
Aircraft carrier mobile flightdeck cranes (nickname Tillie) are LeTorneau.
Posted by: Eromero I haven't thought of a Tillie since 1976! I never knew why they were called Tillie either. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 02:19 PM (pPOh9) 18
16 I have 1 tomato plant, over 5 feet tall in a cage and yet to see 1 blossom on it
skip I only have the little cherry tomatoes and I bought them from Ken's who I think really boosts their veggie and fruit-bearing plants some kind of Amish secret or something! the peppers I did from seed which is probably why they are taking longer than the Ken's stuff Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 02:21 PM (s3qiR) 19
>>> 7 My container tomatoes have been very weird this year. One looked big and healthy, started producng tomatoes and then brnches started falling off. Looks like I'll get some but probably not morethan the plant cost worth. The other one is small but producing these tiny yellow tomatoes that are quite good but again i don;t think I will get many. Think it's been way too hot.
Madea batch of pesto but didn;t even have enough to fill an ice cube tray. But left enough of the plant so maybe get somemore. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 01:49 PM (t/2Uw) That might be hornworms. They're green so hard to find on the plant - and squishy, and ooze green slime, so messy to remove. My chickens *love* to eat them. You can find them using a UV flashlight. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 02:22 PM (llON8) 20
I find it difficult to believe that woman walked through a PATCH of stinging nettles and felt only "one spider bite." I remember digging up a plant and running into nettle roots beneath it, OMG.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 06, 2024 02:23 PM (w6EFb) 21
Been giving away bell peppers and cukes as getting more than the widow and I can use.
Managed to get her a few hand length zukes before they succumbed to...??? Some heirloom variety. Have 4 black diamond variety been up about a week. Been keeping her in enough jalapeños. Also have a bag in my freezer fit for a batch of chili. There will be more. She got all of the turnips she wanted early spring that I planted for winter cover, before I tilled most of the ones left under. The ones I didn't till I have saved 3 times the amount of seeds I planted last fall off of. Posted by: TeeJ at July 06, 2024 02:24 PM (xZpzx) 22
sra blaster and I are farming which is kinda scaled up gardening.
We don't have a tractor yet we are using a quad atv for motor duty right now. Posted by: blaster at July 06, 2024 02:24 PM (JSLZX) 23
And now have a extra fan for upstairs in outbuilding
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 02:25 PM (fwDg9) 24
I have a few green bell peppers, and a bunch of green Anaheim peppers, nothing good yet
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 02:26 PM (fwDg9) 25
I've been reminiscing about my grandparents the past couple of days while outside in this heat. My grandfather went off to work in a factory long before air conditioning while my grandmother spent the day in the hot sun weeding, watering, and attending to their acre plus sized garden. Their home was a plain box, very small by today's standards. Every day they both produced something tangible in value. I miss spending a late August week picking bushel baskets of tomatoes for my grandmother. I was only allowed to fill them, they were too heavy for me to carry. I would spend endless hours shucking endless bags of lima beans in her kitchen with an ancient fan on the floor cooling us off as she reduced the tomatoes to sauce. The 'I Like Ike' banner hung from her cork message board, most likely something she picked up at a 'Ladies Auxiliary' meeting. She liked me and said to my father within my earshot that I knew 'how to work' - quite possibly the compliment I'm most proud of in my life. Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 02:26 PM (RKVpM) 26
that's lovely Divide!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 02:27 PM (s3qiR) 27
NO TOMATO BLOSSOMS? ... According to the internet, tomato plants generate and pollinate blossoms best when daytime temps are 65-85 degrees and night time temps drop into the 50s-60s ... If soil nutrients have not previously been an issue with flowering/pollinating, then chances are the cause is weather temps being too hot.
Posted by: Kathy at July 06, 2024 02:30 PM (p69D5) 28
My runner bean vines are doing nicely, a few of them have climbed 5 ft high or so.
I watched a hummingbird go to every bloom in my neighbor's apple tree and ignore my hummingbird feeder literally 2 feet away. Now I have to worry about how much sugar I put in the feeder? Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 02:31 PM (RIvkX) 29
Farm kid is funny as heck. On twitter there are several of this sort, acting all grown up, imitating adults, and they are maybe 7 years old at best. It's a total crack up.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 06, 2024 02:33 PM (MeG8a) 30
12 ... "You may be able to re-plant summer squash."
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. The leaves and stems are healthy even though the blossoms wilted. Might be a come back with cooler weather. We got the seedlings at a local hardware store, a brand I hadn't heard of before. Chef Jeff or something like that. I'll keep the brand in mind for next year. Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2024 02:33 PM (zudum) 31
I have a couple of five foot tall 'Big Ben' tomatoes growing in containers. Lots of small tomatoes, lots of buds. The cherry tomatoes are shorter in height, a few plants close to ripening. Cucumbers will eventually be too many and shared, same with zucchini. Corn is all over the place from shoulder height to knee high, which is good. I'd rather it not all come to harvest at the same time. Lima beans, which I've never grown before, simply amaze me as the genetic instructions contained in that tiny seed are slowly revealed day after day. Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 02:34 PM (RKVpM) 32
BUSHES!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 02:37 PM (QZlK3) 33
Summer has arrived in SoCal. Now begins the challenge of keeping the lawn green and the bushes bushy in the face of the 90 degree-plus temps.
Lots of night watering is involved, not to mention the $400+ monthly water bills. Bring back Pride Month! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 02:41 PM (QZlK3) 34
Tractors make men100% sexy.
Posted by: nurse ratched ------ So you've seen weasel on his tractor at the farm.... 😎 Posted by: lin-duh at July 06, 2024 02:41 PM (PZo5T) 35
Divide X zero, my Granny and GranDaddy lived that same life except GranDaddy never had an outside job. He and Granny raised three daughters and 2 sons on a 100 acre cotton farm. They raised about all they needed except a few things like sugar and salt.
Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 02:42 PM (o2ZRX) 36
We're considering a 45hp Chyneeese tractor for the ranch. A decent PTO is required to drive a cutting/bush hog deck. 1/3 the price of an overpriced American or Jap labelled tractor. Reliability and parts availability is good per the many reviews I've seen. Always check the pivot pins and trunnions on a tractor, if there is any slop whatsoever on a new one, pass.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2024 02:42 PM (/U5Yz) 37
that's lovely Divide! Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 02:27 PM Thank you. I was standing in the reception line on our wedding day, hundreds of people walked past, saying something or other forgettable, but my wife's grandmother shook my hand and said, 'K____ knows how to work" - apparently it was something that people who grew up in the depression years thought of as a high compliment. Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 02:42 PM (RKVpM) 38
I need to repot 4 plumerias and a bougainvillea. It's too hot right now. Maybe this evening.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 06, 2024 02:42 PM (PZo5T) Posted by: Oliver Wendell Douglas at July 06, 2024 02:43 PM (QZlK3) 40
Kathy we certainly have had hot temperatures
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 02:50 PM (fwDg9) Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 06, 2024 02:51 PM (dg+HA) 42
JTB at July 06, 2024 02:33 PM
Try planting new seeds. Some of the yellow varieties bear in 44 days or so. Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 02:52 PM (rrtZS) 43
Thanks for the temp information. That is it. It has been in the 90's with night temps in the 70's. They're in containers so I nhave been watering every day. We haven't even had a big thunderstorm. The only plant doing fantastic is the jalapeños so I will at least get some pickled jalapeños.
It stays warm here into October. If I can find a decent plant at HD, can I get another crops of tomatoes? Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 03:02 PM (t/2Uw) 44
There is a lot of Mountain Laurel growing in this area (northern Delmarva Peninsula). The "naturalists" at the local Scout camp have long propagated a myth that to burn the wood of Mountain Laurel was to unleash deadly toxins. I have asked several times for them to cite the source(s) for their misinformation. They cannot so so, but claim that someone back in the chain of staff members for that program area was the person who delivered that received wisdom. Their lack of a citable source has never dimmed their ardor for continuing to spread their false myth. Mind you, this is the same group of "knowledgeable youths" who will turn all screechy and preachy to you about "climate catastrophe", something based on tenuous and misleading science that is gospel to them. The assuredness of youth ... Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 06, 2024 03:04 PM (i4sOa) 45
Most of my garden area receives only six hours of direct sunlight per day. It's somewhat west of south. The yields are nothing to complain about. Half of the cucumber crop is in an area further away which gets more then eight hours of sunlight. My wife takes care of them, I just keep her five gallon water pail topped off. Which is almost every other day recently. We did get a two inch rainfall recently but I think it evaporated by noon the same day. Radar doesn't show any 'pop-up' storms on the way so... back to watering. Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 03:06 PM (RKVpM) 46
105° or so forecast for San Fernando valley.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at July 06, 2024 03:13 PM (hqSyT) 47
Gardening Thread!!!
BRB. I gotta water the yard. Finished off the drip lines for the Lilac wall on the south side of the property. Got 90% of the bad cheatgrass outbreak we had cleaned up. Shit was everywhere with the wet winter. Must remember to turn the drip line off. Temps right now require daily watering. Hit 108° yesterday, according to my thermometers. 99° right now. Grands want to go to the skate park. I'm thinking no. Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2024 03:16 PM (xcIvR) 48
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 02:26 PM (RKVpM)
Cool story may their memory be a blessing Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:16 PM (RIvkX) 49
Basil, chives, thyme, rosemary and oregano are going strong. A smattering of cherry tomatoes so far. Waiting impatiently for the bell peppers.
Bad news: Japanese beetles have arrived, and some are getting at the basil and grape plants before they're enticed into the traps. Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 03:18 PM (+oRno) 50
San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 02:31 PM
Yes, you have to be careful not to put too much sugar in the hummingbird feeders so you don't hurt their little livers. Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 03:23 PM (rrtZS) 51
Well, darn. Late to the garden party. I was out tending to my peach tree and hippie mowing. Power mower handle is broken, so I'm using the reel mower while we wait for the replacement handle.
I just pushed a reel mower for 1.25 miles. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 03:30 PM (OX9vb) 52
Im using 1 sugar to 4 water
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:30 PM (RIvkX) 53
Miley
Wife bought some okra at the local farmers market and fried it in the Ninja. Not bad eating. I can see why you like the stuff. Posted by: Ronster at July 06, 2024 03:31 PM (eyIsE) 54
I've used a reel mower for 26 years. But my lawn is 20 x 25
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:31 PM (RIvkX) 55
Never thought of it as hippie mowing but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:33 PM (RIvkX) 56
Also noticed while doing cheatgrass removal today that my asparagus I planted 2 years ago is making ferns. I spead some new roots into an exising plot I have been neglecting for 20 years. I didn't harvest anything from it this year. Just let it grow.
Next year I'll keep it producing. To late this year. Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2024 03:35 PM (xcIvR) 57
Sharon, I am in Ohio and I've planted tomatoes this late and gotten plenty before frost. Have also planted a second round of green beans in late July.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 03:39 PM (OX9vb) 58
Our daughter has a reel mower at their "homestead" in Braddock, PA. I used it for a run at cutting their grass. Heavy old thing, and badly in need of some quality maintenance and sharpening. It reminded me of being nine years old and cutting our front lawn with a reel mower, a happy memory. My Dad lost the tips of two fingers on his (left?) hand to a reel mower accident when he was five or six years old. The middle and ring finger if I recall correctly. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 06, 2024 03:43 PM (i4sOa) 59
55 Never thought of it as hippie mowing but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:33 PM (RIvkX) My yard isn't gigantic, but it's big enough to split the chore over two days with the reel. I don't know why I call it a hippie mower. Just because it's "eco-friendly," I guess. And it's easy to say. Heh. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 03:44 PM (OX9vb) 60
54 I've used a reel mower for 26 years. But my lawn is 20 x 25
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:31 PM (RIvkX) My friends use one of those on a small lawn and their lawn always looks beautiful, I can't figure out if it is the mower or they just take good care of their lawn. Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2024 03:47 PM (Go6qm) 61
No gardening today, huge fire close to me and I have ashes all over everything. I hope and pray everyone is safe and people were able to get their animals to safety.
The fire is burning the same ground as a huge fire in 2007 that I remember created it's own lightning and tornadoes. California is a mismanaged mess. Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2024 03:51 PM (Go6qm) 62
Thanks Dash. I think I'll try it. I know I had way moe tomatoes last year. Even though it is not cost effective, it just makes me feel good to walk out on the my little terrace and pick tomatoes or so,e fresh basil. The cilantro I planted didn't last so I might try another one of those.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 03:52 PM (t/2Uw) 63
Hummingbird came back to harvest some nasturtium. I used the field glasses to see it at rest, its so colorful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2024 03:54 PM (RIvkX) 64
CaliGirl at July 06, 2024 03:51 PM
Stay safe! Praying for those around you. We had a fire conditions warning on the Weather Channel Thursday, which is unusual. Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 03:56 PM (rrtZS) 65
My tomatoes are just starting to produce. Lots of them, but all green. I should have green beans by now, but some critter is getting them.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 06, 2024 03:56 PM (OX9vb) 66
Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 03:52 PM
Cilantro never lasts. There are a few varieties that are supposed to be sort of "bolt resistant", but you still have to plant more seeds every few weeks. Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 03:59 PM (rrtZS) 67
If I can find a decent plant at HD, can I get another crops of tomatoes?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 06, 2024 03:02 PM (t/2Uw) You can, you could also baby them along or you can take a cutting from the current plants, root them and get them to bearing size by the time the cooler weather starts Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 04:06 PM (D7oie) 68
Mountain laurel can grow into a super thick hedgerow.
Posted by: fluffy at July 06, 2024 04:13 PM (39GWd) 69
Just checked my 'bush lima beans' - I have a couple of planters with pods with three beans in them already. I worry that if the SHTF I may not survive without protein, while my wife would be fine eating salads with lettuce, tomato, cucumbers and zucchini three times every day. I'd have to endure having a six pack stomach under that sort of diet regimen. Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 04:30 PM (RKVpM) 70
NOOD pets!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 04:34 PM (llON8) 71
From Boise area: I'm jealous of By-Tor's ribbons, but the Western Idaho Fair in Ada County isn't until mid-August, so I'll have my chance then.
I'm not really sure how I'll do, actually; some plants haven't grown the way I expected. Only tiny sprouts from the Thai Basil seeds, only 1 each from basil and parsley seeds. I have a row each of orange and yellow carrots, but both had surprise potatoes come up (soil recycled from potato bags) so I don't know how much crowding there will be. I wonder if there's a catnip category since that thrives in this yard. At least the zucchini plant is doing well, and I've marked out one fruit to become my Largest Zucchini entry. In non-Fair production, peas are burning out, but green beans are starting, and I spotted color on a SunGold tomato. I'm drying lots of oregano. First red raspberries have showed up. Only 2 sweet potato slips survived - and they have new leaves, which is hopeful. The strawberries are not producing, and since we didn't put nets on, I think something else is getting there before me - I'm mostly looking for runners this first year anyway. Temps predicted over 110 for part of this coming week - not much will get done. Posted by: Pat* at July 06, 2024 11:23 PM (x3vYa) 72
Those Pitcherplants look like Sarracenia Purpurea Purpurea, and they usually flower around June/July, and they like growing in open wet areas such as wet seeps, bogs and pond and lake margins. You will usually find several Sundews growing along with them such as Drosera Rotoundifolia, Drosera Intermedia and Drosera Filiformis Filiformis.
Posted by: Tony Litwin at July 07, 2024 07:47 AM (reJvG) 73
You are quite right--sundews grow in the bog, too! I am not sure which species, though. Thanks for the species ID on the pitcher plants!
Posted by: Ladyhobbit at July 07, 2024 04:36 PM (v4oBq) 74
Tony Litwin: Plant Identification on Facebook tells me that the sundews at this particular bog are Drosera intermedia! Thanks for suggesting that I look into this and for identifying the species of the pitcher plants, too!
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