In Both France and England, the Parties Representing the Center-Right and Right Are At War, and the Old Guard Fake "Conservative" Parties Are Imploding

One of the only decent conservatives in the "Conservative" Tory Party, Suella Braverman, invited Nigel Farage to rejoin her party, as it stands on the edge of the political cliff. The Conservative Party is facing an existential election -- they might lose 70% of their parliament seats.

The Conservative Party in the UK does nothing but conserve the "right" of millions of foreigners to change the country into something most voters don't want and never voted in favor of.

Nigel Farage sees the end of the Conservative Party coming, and says he's ready to lead the right wing after the destruction of the Conservatives.

And he says he'll consider accepting former Conservatives into his Reform Party, once the party is essentially killed off.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, who appears to be at the inflection point of overtaking the centuries-old Conservative Party as the major party of the British right says he would even consider taking over the Tories and incorporating them into Reform.
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As Farage has repeatedly said in the past week the question is not now who will form the next British government, but rather who will have the important job of opposing it, and who will challenge it for power at the next election in 2029, or before. In normal times of Britain's legacy two-party system this would be the Conservatives who are presently in power, but they have upset their own voters so badly, there is a developing feeling the party deserves to win zero seats and to vanish for good.
That would leave Mr Farage as the leader of the opposition, he hopes. He told LBC: "We need a coherent voice of opposition in Parliament, and in the country. And do you know what... I believe I can do that better than the current Conservative Party". Separately this week, he had said: "they're done, they're toast and they thoroughly deserve it in my opinion".
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Pressed on whether he would consider leading the Conservative Party itself by the host, Farage demurred but accepted he'd be willing to lead a merged Reform -- Conservative party, an outcome not unlike the Canadian example where the legacy Conservatives were defeated by the Canadian Reform Party, before the two merged.

He said: "There's no reason for this to be more than a one-term Labour government, but the centre right has got to sort itself out. And if that means the extinction of the 190 year old Conservative Party, so be it. Or it might mean something else."

He repeatedly called the "Conservative" Party "dead."

A new poll confirms that the Conservative Party is all but dead: Reform has overtaken it by a single point.

"That day has finally arrived. The latest YouGov voting intention survey, conducted 12-13 June, has Reform UK one point ahead of the Conservatives on 19% to 18%. While numerically ahead, it is worth keeping sight of the fact that these figures are well within the margin of error of one another -- we will not be able to tell for some time whether Reform can sustain or improve their position relative to the Conservatives."

Note that this is a disaster for both parties and a boon for Labour. With the right's vote now evenly split between Reform and the Tories, neither party can win more than a couple of handfuls of parliamentary seats. Labour will win seats with just 20-30% of the vote.

But, as the right in the UK has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the fake Conservative Party that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.

Here's some interesting news from France: For decades, the center-right party, which is currently called "Les Republicains," have had a rule of strict isolation towards the Le Pen party, currently called "Rassemblement National" or "National Rally."

They have refused to cooperate with the NR or strategize with them. And, when the presidential runoff produces Le Pen as a winner and someone from the left, the Republicains have elected mostly to support the leftwing candidate, rather than give any of their votes to the Deplorables.

But now the president of Les Republicains called for an alliance for the snap National Assembly elections.

According to Le Figaro, the head of the centre-right Les Républicains party, Éric Ciotti, has backed an alliance with Marine Le Pen's populist National Rally in the snap election called by President Emmanuel Macron. This potential coalition could drastically reshape the French political landscape, challenging the cordon sanitaire that has long isolated the National Rally.
Ciotti argues that forming an electoral alliance is crucial to steer the country back in the right direction, as he believes France is "in danger" due to the current political forces in power, including an "unnatural alliance of rebels" on the left and the "Macronist bloc." He emphasized the necessity of unity to fight against what he describes as migratory chaos, restore authority and order, and support the purchasing power of the French.
The reaction within Les Républicains has been mixed, with some senior figures like Olivier Marleix and Bruno Retailleu opposing the move, suggesting it undermines the party's integrity. On the other hand, Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella of the National Rally have welcomed the alliance, with Bardella emphasizing that this union prioritizes the interest of France over party politics.

I don't know the details but I assume the alliance would work like this:

French elections are held in two rounds, or tours, with the first tour being huge multicandidate elections. The top two vote-getters then proceed to the runoff.

In the past, the Republicains have often voted for a leftwing candidate rather than an NR one. So the NR makes it to the runoff a lot -- and then loses the runoff election.

The two parties would agree on a consensus candidate for most precincts. That is, if a Republicain is favored in a precinct, NR would stand down, and if an NR candidate is favored in a precinct, Les Republicains would withdraw their candidate. So that the votes of the right are not split between the two, permitting the left or the Marconists to win. (The Macronists are Tony-Blair/Bill-Clinton-esque "third way" corporate leftists.)

Or, when the first round of voting results in one candidate from the left winning and one candidate from the right, the parties agree that they will vote for the rightist candidate, whoever that is.

The elections are scheduled for June 30, with the runoff then on July 7.

Note that France's president is elected separately so this election will not dislodge Macron from office. It could seriously restrain and weaken him, though.

But... 57% of Frenchmen say that Macron should resign from the presidency if he loses the Assembly elections. I don't know if that's a realistic wish.

But there's new news: the other top party officials of LR declared that the president only spoke for himself, and then demanded he resign.

When he refused, they demanded entrance into the party HQ so that they could arrange a vote to depose him, but he locked them out of the HQ.

But then they got a spare key to the offices, went inside, and claimed they had voted him out of his leadership position. He says that vote doesn't count because it was procedurally defective, but it's pretty clear that LR is going to continue supporting the left over Le Pen.

But maybe NR doesn't need LR.

The former (?) president of Les Republicains did not call for an alliance because he had a change of heart. No, he called for an alliance because Le Pen's party might win so many seats that it controls a majority of Assembly seats.

259 seats constitute a majority in the National Assembly. A projection based on current polling shows that the National Rally might win that outright majority.

Below, LR is "Les Republicains" (center-right), Ensemble is Macron's corporate liberal party, and NUPES is an alliance of various leftwing and Green parties. "Autres" means "others." "Sieges" means "seats."

The projection based on polling is reported here. I have no idea how accurate the company is. I'm not a "journalist," so I don't know everything by simply existing and reading headlines on Twitter.

Politico continues spazzing out over political parties they don't really understand winning elections in countries they don't live in.

In France, Marine Le Pen's National Rally party is expected to trounce Macron's party, increasing the likelihood of the far-right leader, or someone of her ilk, winning a presidential election due in 2027.
Across the Rhine, the far-right Alternative for Germany party -- whose lead candidate recently told an Italian newspaper there were good people to be found among Nazi SS troops -- is seen as vying a second place with the Scholz's Social Democratic Party.
In Italy, Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's Brothers of Italy party, which has its roots in the country's fascist past, is due to increase its number of seats in the European Parliament. In Poland, the nationalist, anti-abortion Law and Justice party is looking to make a comeback after losing power last December.
For a Continent that has prided itself on having laid the rest the ghosts of Hitler, Mussolini and Franco, the resurgence of the right as a political forces is coming as a shock. POLITICO's Poll of Polls shows far-right groups substantially increasing their share of the 720 seats in the European Parliament to as many as 184 seats, as voters across the bloc swing to the right.

Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?

Communism killed more people than fascism, but you never, and I do mean never, hear anyone on the left demanding that all communists be excluded from public life, or that all communist ideas be denounced, or that any party with a historical connection to communism be outlawed.

The Fascist Party in Italy was popular, at the time. That means that at one time half of Italians or so (maybe more) supported it.

Politico and the left demand that if you can draw any attenuated connections between the Fascist Party and a current politician, that politician must be deemed ineligible to hold office. And any idea ever championed by the Fascists -- like that the family is important and the state should pass laws that encourage family formation -- must likewise be discarded.

Just because.

Again, they are very comfortable with the progressive movement ideology being entirely based on Marxism. Politico never demands that AOC be booted out of office for her Connections to Communist Genocides.

And I have to say this: As someone who actually reads foreign newspapers, I have to say, the politics in foreign countries is hard to understand for Americans. Their ideas of "left" and "right" do not track with our own. People make facile and glib equivalencies -- Macron is a Good Democrat and Le Pen is an Evil Trumpist!!! -- which are absurd to anyone who has read anything about European politics that isn't in Politico or Time.

Le Pen champions expanded social spending and what I'd call socialism, for example.

At any rate: The media Emperors have no clothes. They are ludicrously uniformed and stupid. They are a bunch of loud, angry drunks in a bar screaming their ignorant opinions at everyone 24 hours a day, and when you ask them what reading they've done or experiences they've lived give them such absolute surety about the world outside of NY and DC newsrooms, they all say the same thing: "I am a JOURNALIST. Journalism school taught me how to think, and how to know things well outside of my training or experience. Journalism school taught me how to think without reason and to know without reading."

They really believe their silly, trifling 18-month degree has bequeathed upon them unquestionable expertise in all fields. They get physically enraged when you dispute this fundamental conceit.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:19 PM

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1 But... 57% of Frenchmen say that Macron should resign from the presidency if he loses the Assembly elections. I don't know if that's a realistic wish.

I know it's nowhere close to 5 sigma.

Posted by: mikeski at June 14, 2024 01:20 PM (DgGvY)

2 last

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

3 But, as the right in the UK has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the fake Conservative Party that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.

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False.

Keep voting Conservative or Labour will import a bunch of immigrants who don't share Britain's values!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

4 Interesting read/summary. Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: scampydog at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (2bFN5)

5 I really feel like most of this post is a repeat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

7 You can't fuck the tranny without first getting rid of the dick

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

8 The long-awaited France post! I'll go get a cup of espresso and settle in.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 14, 2024 01:24 PM (wzAuc)

9 I like Farage and I like that firebrand conservative dude up in Canada pissing in Trudeau's face every chance he gets.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)

10 >>>5 I really feel like most of this post is a repeat.

this hurts my feelings.

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:24 PM (KRtlO)

11 You know what they call a 5 Sigma in France?

Posted by: Vincent Vega at June 14, 2024 01:25 PM (SYTee)

12 10 >>>5 I really feel like most of this post is a repeat.

this hurts my feelings.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:24 PM (KRtlO)

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Did you previously post it and take it down?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

13 Now you did it, Madison.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 14, 2024 01:25 PM (qZEuM)

14 this hurts my feelings.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:24 PM (KRtlO)

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Oh, no. Now Ace is disappointed.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 01:25 PM (DRSnL)

15 I just want to go on record saying that this is a most excellent post.

It didn't even turn the boxes gray or all italics!

Posted by: Just Lily at June 14, 2024 01:26 PM (RLLZj)

16 Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?

I asked my Magic 8 Ball. I've never seen it just start laughing before. It's been going on for five minutes now... can't get anything in the window... just laughing and wheezing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:27 PM (T7iTv)

17 You know what they call a 5 Sigma in France?

20 Francs, same as in Paris?

Posted by: PabloD at June 14, 2024 01:27 PM (GtGu6)

18 The post I like most about the death of the fake conservative party in England is the part where they kept nominating a PM to appeal to the middle.

Like Republicans here continue to insist is the only path to victory.
Without a shred of evidence or experience that it works.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:28 PM (U92EF)

19 18 Like Republicans here continue to insist is the only path to victory.
Without a shred of evidence or experience that it works.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:28 PM (U92EF)

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It's how we beat Obama in 2008 with McCain, silly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

20 This all seems oddly familiar. (Just kidding, Ace, it's a good piece. Thanks for reposting it.)

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2024 01:28 PM (/y8xj)

21 Limeys gotta lime. Froggies gotta frog.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (IG4Id)

22 Marconi > Macaroni > Macaroon > Macron

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (ufJfM)

23 >>>You know what they call a 5 Sigma in France?

Le Royale with cheese.

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (KRtlO)

24 The two parties would agree on a consensus candidate for most precincts. That is, if a Republicain is favored in a precinct, NR would stand down, and if an NR candidate is favored in a precinct, Les Republicains would withdraw their candidate.

I'll believe it when I see it. That's like RINOs supporting Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (xCA6C)

25 I believe that in his native Kaffiristani, "Sunak" means "Turtle."

Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (1bNHn)

26 > They are ludicrously uniformed and stupid.

He's obviously talking about the Nork military.

Posted by: Greek Presidential Guard at June 14, 2024 01:29 PM (Odg76)

27 This is what happens when conservatives sell out their voters.

Leftist parties are put in power to steal from the productive and give it to their constituents while keeping some for themselves. Conservatives are supposed to prevent the theft, but there is little room for graft in that system.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2024 01:30 PM (lTGtQ)

28
Oh, no. Now Ace is disappointed.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 01:25 PM (DRSnL)

Good thing he doesn't run the Art Thread.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

29 . . . so I don't know everything by simply existing and reading headlines on Twitter.

This makes me sad for you.

Posted by: Jake Tapper at June 14, 2024 01:30 PM (oLbj1)

30 Oh, no. Now Ace is disappointed.

Le Ace c'est découragé.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 14, 2024 01:31 PM (xCA6C)

31 29 . . . so I don't know everything by simply existing and reading headlines on Twitter.

This makes me sad for you.
Posted by: Jake Tapper at June 14, 2024 01:30 PM (oLbj1)

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Tapper reads things other than his DMs?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

32 But... 57% of Frenchmen say that Macron should resign from the presidency if he loses the Assembly elections. I don't know if that's a realistic wish.

I believe Macron has already said, "Non! I will not resign in the face of this travesty!" And he stamped his little foot for emphasis.

Now, having said that Macron is a particularly French example of the worst that France has to offer in French politicians, well done to him on June 6th.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:31 PM (T7iTv)

33 "Le Pen champions expanded social spending and what I'd call socialism, for example."

I think what's coming down to brass tax to separate the parties -- at least in Europe, for now -- isn't the historical divide over old-school economics and old-school cultural issues. It's coming down to where you stand on a single issue: unchecked immigration of hordes of smelly 8th century savages and murderous lunatics. That's becoming the sole dividing paradigm that's animating almost all of European politics right now.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

34 And he says he'll consider accepting former Conservatives into his Reform Party, once the party is essentially killed off.
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This is the way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:32 PM (d04cU)

35 24 The two parties would agree on a consensus candidate for most precincts. That is, if a Republicain is favored in a precinct, NR would stand down, and if an NR candidate is favored in a precinct, Les Republicains would withdraw their candidate.

I'll believe it when I see it. That's like RINOs supporting Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes
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The old fable of the frog and scorpion comes to mind.

At a certain point of rot, rebuilding is futile compared to new construction although a few good pieces of the old structure can be salvaged for reuse. Exactly like the GOP or Conservative Party.

Posted by: whig at June 14, 2024 01:32 PM (/0X3E)

36 "That day has finally arrived. The latest YouGov voting intention survey, conducted 12-13 June, has Reform UK one point ahead of the Conservatives on 19% to 18%. While numerically ahead, it is worth keeping sight of the fact that these figures are well within the margin of error of one another -- we will not be able to tell for some time whether Reform can sustain or improve their position relative to the Conservatives."
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YouGov operates in multiple countries?

I wonder who's money is behind it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (d04cU)

37 Tapper reads things other than his DMs?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max

SOMETIMES!! OCCASIONALLY!!! If they are talking about me specifically. And then I DM them.

Posted by: Jake Tapper, being defensive at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (oLbj1)

38 Whoa!

Deja vu, man...I could swear I've seen parts of this post somewhere before...

(Yes, I know parts of it were shared yesterday and then ace decided to hold off on posting it until today with more details...)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (7fElN)

39 Note that this is a disaster for both parties and a boon for Labour. With the right's vote now evenly split between Reform and the Tories, neither party can win more than a couple of handfuls of parliamentary seats. Labour will win seats with just 20-30% of the vote.

But, as the right in the UK has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the fake Conservative Party that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.
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Yup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (d04cU)

40 >>>4 Interesting read/summary. Thanks, Ace.

thank you scampydog. You are a gentlemen and a scholar, unlike these other swine.

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (KRtlO)

41 As long as Britain doesn't outlaw Taskmaster and take it off the air, they can descend into anarchy all they want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

42 Le Ace c'est découragé.
Posted by: Archimedes

Ceci n'est pas une commentaire.

Posted by: mikeski at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (DgGvY)

43 According to Le Figaro, the head of the centre-right Les Républicains party, Éric Ciotti, has backed an alliance with Marine Le Pen's populist National Rally in the snap election called by President Emmanuel Macron. This potential coalition could drastically reshape the French political landscape, challenging the cordon sanitaire that has long isolated the National Rally.
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That's new, and potentially meaningful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (d04cU)

44 Could it be the importing of certain immigrants have made things less safe? Have pulled society backwards? Are we, perhaps, suggesting that a cultural divide exists between nationals and those who immigrated but refused to assimilate?

Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (aT5K/)

45 Tapper reads things other than his DMs?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

You're young. Maybe you don't remember Penthouse forum but surely you've heard of it. Is there a gay version of that? Cuz if there is, I'm betting Tapper is all over that... well, I'll let you picture something on your own.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (T7iTv)

46 Brexit passed in early 2016. As of today, it is still not fully implemented, due to the Tories trying to prevent the will of the people from being enacted.

That tells you everything you need to know.

As we discussed here, from 1989 to the present, excluding anything Trump did almost by himself, the US republican party enacted TWO things their base wanted for 40 years: ended the death tax for one year, and ended the ridiculously named assault weapons ban.

In 40 years.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (lTGtQ)

47 Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?
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Narrator: They did not

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (nZYm7)

48 I get the feeling that the British Conservative Party is chock full of contestants for "Upperclass Twit of the Year".

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (FTjSO)

49 The two parties would agree on a consensus candidate for most precincts. That is, if a Republicain is favored in a precinct, NR would stand down, and if an NR candidate is favored in a precinct, Les Republicains would withdraw their candidate. So that the votes of the right are not split between the two, permitting the left or the Marconists to win. (The Macronists are Tony-Blair/Bill-Clinton-esque "third way" corporate leftists.)

Or, when the first round of voting results in one candidate from the left winning and one candidate from the right, the parties agree that they will vote for the rightist candidate, whoever that is.
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Cartelization is interesting when it happens in public. It's very typical in parliamentary systems, but interesting to me nonetheless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (d04cU)

50 46 Brexit passed in early 2016. As of today, it is still not fully implemented, due to the Tories trying to prevent the will of the people from being enacted.

That tells you everything you need to know.

As we discussed here, from 1989 to the present, excluding anything Trump did almost by himself, the US republican party enacted TWO things their base wanted for 40 years: ended the death tax for one year, and ended the ridiculously named assault weapons ban.

In 40 years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (lTGtQ)

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"If you vote for Labour, Brexit will be reversed!"
-The Conservative Party's last appeal, most likely

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

51 Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?
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Dessert?!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (nZYm7)

52 "center right" is a good one.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (Z8Yh2)

53 But there's new news: the other top party officials of LR declared that the president only spoke for himself, and then demanded he resign.

When he refused, they demanded entrance into the party HQ so that they could arrange a vote to depose him, but he locked them out of the HQ.
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So they tried their own version of the "Brooks Brothers Riot?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (d04cU)

54 Fair to point out, Europeans are utterly clueless about American politics. I mean, they literally have no idea what they are talking about half the time. They are also, absolutely sure they are 100% right about everything in American politics. To a point where they get very argumentative when you say they don't know a damn thing about it.

One time a very intellectual person started lecturing me on how there are only TWO parties in the United States, and how completely undemocratic it is, and how the constitution forbids there from being more parties (!?) .

I patiently explained a) the constitution says no such thing b) our "parties" are more like coalitions. Inside each party are various movements that act like smaller parties. Also, that their terms "Democrat" and "Republican" don't necessarily mean the same thing in the U.S. as they do in Europe. They are more like broad categories of political beliefs. For example, the socialists are part of the democratic party, while the libertarians consort with the republicans.

he a) got angry b) proceeded to tell me, and American, how wrong I was.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (nLFEI)

55 @34

>>This is the way.

Which is why we have to do everything in our power to make sure that no neck pencil dick, Larry Hogan loses in the Maryland Senate race.

A message has to be be sent that his brand of Republicanism is buried on the ash heap of history.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (ZNksC)

56 Everything to the right of John f*cking Kerry is considered FAR RIGHT nowadays.

It's ridiculous.

F*ck the left. They're all communist swine.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

57 The Tory party bears a strong similarity to our Democrats. Rich out of touch faggot shitstains.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (nZYm7)

58 People who understand french politics much better than I do are saying it was a huge mistake for Macaroni to call a snap election.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (dGCAG)

59 Dessert?!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at June 14, 2024 01:35 PM (nZYm7)

I think you've had enough for a small African village, backfat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

60 Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?

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What is that noise? Is it the wind blowing?

*American GOP

Posted by: Just Lily at June 14, 2024 01:37 PM (RLLZj)

61 "If you vote for Labour, Brexit will be reversed!"
-The Conservative Party's last appeal, most likely

In fairness, isn't that actually part of Labour's manifesto?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:37 PM (T7iTv)

62 The bizarre part of politics the past 20 years is how, no matter what the majority of voters say they want, all the elected cater to the minority.

How do you escape the conclusion that they are so locked inside a bubble that they 1) don't know what their conservative voters actually want and 2) hate everything about what they do hear conservatives want.

I mean, how does a party, seeing its first win in near 20 years on "build the wall" introduce an amnesty bill?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:37 PM (U92EF)

63 58 People who understand french politics much better than I do are saying it was a huge mistake for Macaroni to call a snap election.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (dGCAG)

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The first interpretation of the snap call I read was that it wasn't about preserving his current order much more about stemming the bleeding, having an election now before things got even worse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

64 I saw Faggot Shitstains open for Flock of Seagulls at The Prairie House in '88.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

65 IDF killed another noteworthy sub-human. Taleb Abdullah was Hezbollah's top commander. Now he's experiencing the horrors of the deepest levels of hell.

http://tiny.cc/t6jlyz

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (Odg76)

66 I fart in your general direction

Posted by: The French at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (Akjoo)

67 But then they got a spare key to the offices, went inside, and claimed they had voted him out of his leadership position. He says that vote doesn't count because it was procedurally defective, but it's pretty clear that LR is going to continue supporting the left over Le Pen.

But maybe NR doesn't need LR.
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This kind of thing makes that more likely.

If your base is pissed off and you have a public schism between phonies who are really leftists and a small group of non-phonies who would rather cut a deal to take out the enemy, your base will leave you in droves. They may stay home or they may vote for the hated enemy (NR, in this case), but they will leave *you.*

This exactly what is hopefully staring to happen to the GOP. This is straight-up GOP behavior being perpetrated by these LR characters. I hope the French are less foolish than we are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (d04cU)

68 61 "If you vote for Labour, Brexit will be reversed!"
-The Conservative Party's last appeal, most likely

In fairness, isn't that actually part of Labour's manifesto?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:37 PM (T7iTv)

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Yeah, but irony is that the Conservative Party has, through its actions, shown that it has no problem with Brexit being reversed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

69 The Tory party bears a strong similarity to our Democrats. Rich out of touch faggot shitstains.
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:36 PM (nZYm7)

And members (including the current PM) with questionable loyalties to the nation.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (dGCAG)

70 65 IDF killed another noteworthy sub-human. Taleb Abdullah was Hezbollah's top commander. Now he's experiencing the horrors of the deepest levels of hell.

http://tiny.cc/t6jlyz
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (Odg76)

72 Lena Dunham's ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (Akjoo)

71 You can't fuck the tranny without first getting rid of the dick
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

But why would you want to, in any case?

What has nine balls and fucks rabbits?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 01:39 PM (Jv1VF)

72 Hitler and Mussolini were socialists and facism was just Mussolini’ s improved socialism with electrolytes. Any one who calls them right-wing is dumber than shit and deserving of nothing but scorn and mockery.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:39 PM (JTwsP)

73 Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?
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No.

The GOP does not work for its base (as, apparently, LR does not). The GOP works for the Complex.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:39 PM (d04cU)

74 Bloody 'ell, mate!

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (v0R5T)

75 While the things Mussolini said were genuinely totalitarian*, and thus objectionable, his actual death toll was not in line with 20th C totalitarians. I that, he was more like a common and garden-variety dictator, of the traditional sort. Not good, by any means, but not such as to make all who supported him unpersons. The list includes H G Wells and G B Shaw, and FDR among his admirers.

*A word which seems to be going out of style. Don't forget Jeanne Kirkpatrick's distinction.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (1bNHn)

76 The first interpretation of the snap call I read was that it wasn't about preserving his current order much more about stemming the bleeding, having an election now before things got even worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

Sounds reasonable. I don't think anyone is predicting he's going to retain power though. So maybe a suicide mission?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

77 67 This exactly what is hopefully staring to happen to the GOP. This is straight-up GOP behavior being perpetrated by these LR characters. I hope the French are less foolish than we are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (d04cU)

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The difference is that the GOP's war is still contained within the party because of Trump. This is preventing the actual death of the GOP because the people trying to make actual policy changes for the conservative base are still within the party for the most part.

It'd be more in line with the current shakeups in the UK and France if Trump had decided to go third party at any point in the last 8 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

78 You know, if diversity is our strength, then doesn't it make sense, that after illegal immigrants are here for a while, and they have adopted American values, we would be doing their country of origin a huge favor in sending them back? That way they can share American values with the rest of the world, no doubt increasing diversity in their home countries, and strengthening them considerably.

Seems like a win-win to me.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (nLFEI)

79 Swine is a good word. I noted that Tom Sharpe has some of his characters use it a bunch in his novels.

Posted by: spindrift at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (OguvZ)

80 Who is this POC standing two to Trump's right with the silver hair?

https://tinyurl.com/bdej6u76

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (aFNOf)

81 76 Sounds reasonable. I don't think anyone is predicting he's going to retain power though. So maybe a suicide mission?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

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Macron is president, not prime minister. He'll still retain his position no matter the results of the election.

But he could have to deal with an opposition prime minister.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

82 Hey Politico, if you can refer to an Italian party as having roots in Italy's "fascist" past, does that mean the Democrats should be described as having roots in the US' "slave-holding" past or something like that? Seems only fair.

Posted by: Octochicken at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (oCS0o)

83 I have trouble with criticizing the French Right's self-definition. France did introduce the usage.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (1bNHn)

84 For a Continent that has prided itself on having laid the rest the ghosts of Hitler, Mussolini and Franco, the resurgence of the right as a political forces is coming as a shock.
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Uhhh, guys?

Hitler, Mussolini and Franco (the latter is in a different category, but whatever - they're communists so all opponents are the same) were brought into power by that same "Continent" and were vanquished by extracontinentals - the British, the Americans and the Soviets.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (d04cU)

85 18 The post I like most about the death of the fake conservative party in England is the part where they kept nominating a PM to appeal to the middle.

Like Republicans here continue to insist is the only path to victory.
Without a shred of evidence or experience that it works.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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For the same reasons--the party donors and candidate class are to the left of their actual party voting base. Thus, the party elite defect to the left on most battles other than taxes.

Business class executives are in general weak candidates for any reform party because of their previous network and interests.

Posted by: whig at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (/0X3E)

86 Hitler had to be right wing since he didn't like Jews.

Oh wait.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (nZYm7)

87 Yeah, but irony is that the Conservative Party has, through its actions, shown that it has no problem with Brexit being reversed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

True. The Lotus Eaters went through and cataloged all the Tories who still have at least a chance of being re-elected. Not one single white. Mostly Indian/Pakistani.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (T7iTv)

88 Le Ace c'est découragé.
Posted by: Archimedes

Ceci n'est pas une commentaire.
Posted by: mikeski at June 14, 2024 01:34 PM (DgGvY)

La decolletage c'est encouragé.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (Jv1VF)

89 Tony Blair (the most talented center-left politician in Britain) had a very good election for Labour in the late 90s. His friends went from being happy to being ecstatic. He became glum suddenly, because with a blowout, there was literally nothing he might blame on the opposing party.

So "Zero Seats". You can't fix the country on the back of a phony political party. Starmer will be a disaster but enemies are better than traitors.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (cf/0E)

90 >>>air to point out, Europeans are utterly clueless about American politics. I mean, they literally have no idea what they are talking about half the time. They are also, absolutely sure they are 100% right about everything in American politics. To a point where they get very argumentative when you say they don't know a damn thing about it.

yes, to be honest, my experience with this is mostly reading European "journalists" covering American politics, and just having no idea which way is up.

One French commentator said he was very surprised to learn that Obama was involved in using the IRS to target his opponents, because Obama was known to be a very substantive thinker who was directly involved in crafting legislative language.

Everyone in America knew that Obama had almost nothing to do with the laws he signed. But the French bought the lie that Obama was an intellectual, and therefore deduced he must be up late at night inscribing legal scrolls like a monk.

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

91 > unlike these other swine.

Have you seen the Peter Sellers Pink Panther movies? The way Sellers says the word, "swine" is amazing. It's dripping with contempt and yet elegant at the same time.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (Odg76)

92 Hitler and Mussolini were socialists and facism was just Mussolini’ s improved socialism with electrolytes. Any one who calls them right-wing is dumber than shit and deserving of nothing but scorn and mockery.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:39 PM (JTwsP)

This too is the fault of the french. They were the ones who were separating their various socialist factions between left and right, and somehow the clowns in this country just picked up on the language.

Doesn't mean squat, to lump any of these people in with what used to be called conservatives, but they were, because it was useful to the other lefties to have some of their lefties labeled as righties.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (dGCAG)

93 Sounds reasonable. I don't think anyone is predicting he's going to retain power though. So maybe a suicide mission?

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Maybe he has staffers who just finished studying with certain US election officials and have plenty of suitcases full of ballots at the ready.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (RLLZj)

94 Hitler had to be right wing since he didn't like Jews. ...
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (nZYm7)
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Nope. He was "right-wing" because he was a nationalist.

That's it. That's the sum total of the problem. It doesn't matter that he was a socialist and a totalitarian. The problem is that he wasn't an international communist and therefore is evil.

That's it. National socialism is right-wing because it isn't internationalist like Marx wanted.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (d04cU)

95 90 One French commentator said he was very surprised to learn that Obama was involved in using the IRS to target his opponents, because Obama was known to be a very substantive thinker who was directly involved in crafting legislative language.

Everyone in America knew that Obama had almost nothing to do with the laws he signed. But the French bought the lie that Obama was an intellectual, and therefore deduced he must be up late at night inscribing legal scrolls like a monk.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

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Why do they think the president, the chief executive, has primarily legislative functions?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

96 But the French bought the lie that Obama was an intellectual, and therefore deduced he must be up late at night inscribing legal scrolls like a monk.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

Is that what he told you ?

Posted by: Reggie Love at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (Akjoo)

97 The list includes H G Wells and G B Shaw, and FDR among his admirers. Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (1bNHn)

Hard lefties all admired Fascists till Hitler rolled into town. Everyone forgets that.

My father, through happenstance, lived in countries ruled by both Stalin and Hitler. I asked him what the differences were. "None, just the uniforms."

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (nLFEI)

98 Howdy Ace! Thank you for reading foreign newspapers and sites so we don't have to.

Posted by: Doof at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (RFPHU)

99 94 Nope. He was "right-wing" because he was a nationalist.

That's it. That's the sum total of the problem. It doesn't matter that he was a socialist and a totalitarian. The problem is that he wasn't an international communist and therefore is evil.

That's it. National socialism is right-wing because it isn't internationalist like Marx wanted.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (d04cU)

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Also, WWI and WWII were both caused by excesses of nationalism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

100 Macron is president, not prime minister. He'll still retain his position no matter the results of the election.

But he could have to deal with an opposition prime minister.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

See? Those damn french don't do anything right.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (dGCAG)

101 While the things Mussolini said were genuinely totalitarian*, and thus objectionable, his actual death toll was not in line with 20th C totalitarians. I that, he was more like a common and garden-variety dictator, of the traditional sort. Not good, by any means, but not such as to make all who supported him unpersons. The list includes H G Wells and G B Shaw, and FDR among his admirers.

*A word which seems to be going out of style. Don't forget Jeanne Kirkpatrick's distinction.
Posted by: Eeyore

I've read that even Gandhi praised Mussolini when he first came to power.

I think Mussolini is the most interesting of the WWII-era dictators. He spoke several languages (he facilitated communications between Chamberlain and Hitler at Munich), and was not down with the extermination of the Jews. He was on good terms with the British and the French until his idiotic invasion of Ethiopia, when they turned against him and drove him into Hitler's arms.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (v6JzV)

102 Hitler and Mussolini were socialists and facism was just Mussolini’ s improved socialism with electrolytes. Any one who calls them right-wing is dumber than shit and deserving of nothing but scorn and mockery.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Went 'round and 'round with HS teacher about this after I put fascism on the left on an exam and noted that is should be a semi-circle vs a left to right line as fascism is a helluva lot closer to communism than anything else we were studying. He laughed and admitted that I was not wrong. Still counted it wrong on my exam, however.

Posted by: scampydog at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (2bFN5)

103 Also, WWI and WWII were both caused by excesses of nationalism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup. Gotta love that take.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (d04cU)

104 Why do they think the president, the chief executive, has primarily legislative functions?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Maybe because they guillotined the smart ones?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (pUmP9)

105 The GOP does not work for its base (as, apparently, LR does not). The GOP works for the Complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:39 PM (d04cU)

I believe that ALL western political parties operate in the following manner:

- The lower level people, ones with no power, agitate for the desires of that party's voters. They do this to amass something of a following and move up the ranks.
- The upper level people, the ones with the power to make change, don't give one single flying fuck what the voters want and put forth all their efforts to enrich themselves and their families.

Any time a "right wing" party does something which aligns with it's voters, it's either an accident or someone has figured out a way to get paid from it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (T7iTv)

106 Testing to see how to post a comment

Posted by: Andrew at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (IHWvd)

107
Everyone in America knew that Obama had almost nothing to do with the laws he signed. But the French bought the lie that Obama was an intellectual, and therefore deduced he must be up late at night inscribing legal scrolls like a monk.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

The leftwing media in Europe is worse than here. The biggest issue over there is, they still trust their media is telling them the truth.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

108 103 Also, WWI and WWII were both caused by excesses of nationalism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup. Gotta love that take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:45 PM (d04cU)

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If all us rubes would stop loving our country and just give everything to a cabal of the elite to run everything, we'd have utopia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

109 Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (IHWvd)

That's not it. Try something else.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

110 Hitler was right wing.

But then the parties switched.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (nZYm7)

111 Ace reads the foreign news, and I look at the porn. We all have our jobs to do.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (JTwsP)

112 106 Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (IHWvd)

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C-

Needs more thread jacking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

113 If all us rubes would stop loving our country and just give everything to a cabal of the elite to run everything, we'd have utopia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
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:: looks around ::

That doesn't match what I see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (d04cU)

114 Sounds reasonable. I don't think anyone is predicting he's going to retain power though. So maybe a suicide mission?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

Macron's personal power is unaffected by this. The snap election is for the Parliament and he is directly elected by the people separately.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (T7iTv)

115 27 This is what happens when conservatives sell out their voters.

Leftist parties are put in power to steal from the productive and give it to their constituents while keeping some for themselves. Conservatives are supposed to prevent the theft, but there is little room for graft in that system.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2024 01:30 PM (lTGtQ)

'Conservatives' conserve. Here in the USA, the Republicans conserve the system of grift that has benefited Democrats for at least two generations.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (eWu9H)

116 Ace reads the foreign news, and I look at the porn. We all have our jobs to do.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (JTwsP)
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Found the SEC guy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (d04cU)

117 That's it. National socialism is right-wing because it isn't internationalist like Marx wanted.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (d04cU)

If you listen to Michael Malice (and I'm not sure you should), he says it's about the racism.

I heard Patrick Bet-David talking with Malice recently, and he's the only person I've ever heard say to Michael's face that it's so damn frustrating talking to him because he's basically an autist who won't let anyone else's words penetrate his narrative.

Which is problematic, when you're mostly right, which Malice is, but where you're wrong, you are glaringly, stupidly wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (dGCAG)

118 Woudl any of these parties have welcomed Roger B. Taney (presuming he spoke decent French)? If so, that's the party France needs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (J2vNu)

119 113 :: looks around ::

That doesn't match what I see.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (d04cU)

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Well that's because 100% of the populace isn't on board yet.

Kill those not on board, and we'll have utopia

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

120 Why do they think the president, the chief executive, has primarily legislative functions?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Probably because they see our President as a Prime Minister, who DOES play a more active role in crafting legislation in other countries.

Remember, we combine our Head of Government and Head of State into a single entity, where a lot of countries have separation between the two roles.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2024 01:48 PM (7fElN)

121 Why do they think the president, the chief executive, has primarily legislative functions? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

because in Europe that is the case - The leader in the country is the same as what we would call the house speaker. The "President" is often a more ceremonial post, and just goes along with what the party in charge wants.

France is a little different, in that the President has a bit more independent. But his power mostly flows from controlling the legislature.

Europe, generally, doesn't have the separation of powers we enjoy. The president is often subservient to the legislature.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 01:48 PM (nLFEI)

122 If you listen to Michael Malice (and I'm not sure you should), he says it's about the racism.

I heard Patrick Bet-David talking with Malice recently, and he's the only person I've ever heard say to Michael's face that it's so damn frustrating talking to him because he's basically an autist who won't let anyone else's words penetrate his narrative.

Which is problematic, when you're mostly right, which Malice is, but where you're wrong, you are glaringly, stupidly wrong.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (dGCAG)
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The fascinating thing about mathematics is that when you're 50% right, you're 100% wrong.

Hitler's racism is used as a cudgel and is easy to talk about. It is not the underpinning of the "right-wing" argument, or it wouldn't apply to Mussolini and Franco and even Tito and Ceausescu when the academic twatwaffle is feeling honest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:49 PM (d04cU)

123 Actually what's really freaky is how much Narrative makes it over to "foreign" news outlets.

Sky News, relatively "conservative" (like FNC feh), was basically Clinton HQ in 2016 and not just because she was a woman.

They get *every single* bit of DNC narrative somehow. I'm pretty sure news savvy Brits think Trump grabbed a steering wheel.

It's very strange because it's not like those are their own voters over there.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:49 PM (nZYm7)

124 I have trouble with criticizing the French Right's self-definition. France did introduce the usage.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (1bNHn)

True. OTOH, they're French.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (T7iTv)

125 Archaeologists Unearth 35 Glass Bottles from the 18th Century at George Washington’s Mount Vernon During Mansion Revitalization, Most Containing Perfectly Preserved Cherries and Berries

The bidding will start at $1M per bottle. Do I hear a million? There. Do I hear $2M...

Posted by: Auctioneer McTurtle at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (aFNOf)

126 The weekend is coming

The Caliphate will clean house anyway in Europe, it is just a matter of time

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (hRKpF)

127 Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise

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Well, you've got to admit, picking up dead bodies is ickie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (L/fGl)

128 Needs more thread jacking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

I don't want a dude jacking me

Posted by: The Thread at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (RFPHU)

129 Hitler, Mussolini and Franco (the latter is in a different category, but whatever - they're communists so all opponents are the same) were brought into power by that same "Continent" and were vanquished by extracontinentals - the British, the Americans and the Soviets.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (d04cU)

Franco got "vanquished" by me, after many long years of rule.

Posted by: Angel of Death at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (Jv1VF)

130 "Kill those not on board, and we'll have utopia"

Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (Z8Yh2)

131 >>>Have you seen the Peter Sellers Pink Panther movies? The way Sellers says the word, "swine" is amazing. It's dripping with contempt and yet elegant at the same time.

yeah, I remember him saying "the swin-nuh"

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)

132 Fascism was created by a Marxist who thought it didn’t go far enough in forcing people into a borg.

Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (SHMXB)

133 Our legislation is primarily written by jailbirds, convicts and felons.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (nZYm7)

134 France is a little different, in that the President has a bit more independent. But his power mostly flows from controlling the legislature.
Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law

I've read that the French Presidency has a lot of power because it's basically viewed as the successor to the monarchy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (v6JzV)

135 Everyone in America knew that Obama had almost nothing to do with the laws he signed. But the French bought the lie that Obama was an intellectual, and therefore deduced he must be up late at night inscribing legal scrolls like a monk.
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

I saw a clip not that long ago, Obama being interviewed by someone who was basically sucking him off, and they were talking about the music and books Bobama was consuming.

When the Scoamf made some statement about a book, the interviewer perked up, and asked him something specific about the book. And the stuttering fustercluck hemmed and hawed in his wee wee'd up way, and changed the subject back to the cool music he listens to.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (dGCAG)

136 The president is often subservient to the legislature.
Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 01:48 PM (nLFEI)

Ours was never intended to have as much as they do now. Founders never envisioned that Congress would just become a graft factory and the administrative state would do all the work.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (JTwsP)

137 Someone mentioned Matt Gaetz expressing shock at not just that all Republicans are bought off but at how cheaply.

Well, yeah.

Recall the now-exposed "preferred vendor list" that was actually a mandatory vendors list.
And exclusively friends and family of party leaders.
That's how cheaply they are trained coming up the ranks, slosh a little money to party family/friends.
And only when they get to the big leagues do they actually get direct payments or able to put their folks on the list.
"Wow! $10k is a lot of money!"
While an idiot like Fannie, in one of thousands of local offices, is personally raking in 6 to 7 figures.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (U92EF)

138 Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise
-
Well, you've got to admit, picking up dead bodies is ickie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 14, 2024

***
He knew the job was ickie when he took it

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (J2vNu)

139 "Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, who appears to be at the inflection point of overtaking the centuries-old Conservative Party as the major party of the British right says he would even consider taking over the Tories and incorporating them into Reform."

It's really a bit surprising that Farage put his hat back in the ring, given all the nonsense he's gone through for a Brexit that's been stalled by the "conservative" party. I honestly thought he was done after that nonsense with his bank. I wish him all the luck in the world, he's going to need it.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (uGhsv)

140 "Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise"

Terminate immediately.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

141 Franco got "vanquished" by me, after many long years of rule.
Posted by: Angel of Death

Is he still dead?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (v6JzV)

142 Franco got "vanquished" by me, after many long years of rule.
Posted by: Angel of Death at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (Jv1VF)
++++
Yup. Franco didn't belong on the list at all. He was a different animal, and didn't help launch a continental war.

But this "from the Continent that stopped Hitler!" take is insane. It's the "Continent" that installed Hitler and then failed to stop him. It took outsiders to do that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (d04cU)

143 111 Ace reads the foreign news, and I look at the porn.

So I discovered a LanguageHack: Watch porn in the language you're trying to learn.

(I mean, obviously you try to do as much as you can in the language you're learning, but do not sleep on the fine offerings from Europe in the Cinema of the Erotic.)

Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (KRtlO)

144
yeah, I remember him saying "the swin-nuh"
Posted by: ace at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (KRtlO)

https://youtu.be/LLtwBSMVx3M

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

145 Fascism is a form of socialism, as is nationalist socialism.

Posted by: Don at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (mUzIM)

146 Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise
-
Well, you've got to admit, picking up dead bodies is ickie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

He could always sell hobo kidneys to China.

Posted by: Auctioneer McTurtle at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (aFNOf)

147 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:41 PM (d04cU)

Franco was a religious monarchist who fought Commies and who used Hitler like we ‘used’ the Soviet Union.

Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (SHMXB)

148 Like Republicans here continue to insist is the only path to victory.
Without a shred of evidence or experience that it works.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:28 PM
---

Oh come on now, what about the great works of President McCain and President Romney? Let them be your guiding light.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (8Fj1R)

149 As my rather astute Brit wife put it a long time ago after she got here. The Republicans look respectable and the Democrats will sell the country's silver.

That pretty much sums it up. Except Republicans aren't far behind on the silver selling front they seem to at least know that you must have a country.

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (nZYm7)

150 145 Fascism is a form of socialism, as is nationalist socialism.
Posted by: Don at June 14, 2024 01:53 PM (mUzIM)

========

I remember Bernie effectively calling himself a national socialist at some point around 2015.

We weren't supposed to equate that with national socialism, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

151 Someone mentioned Matt Gaetz expressing shock at not just that all Republicans are bought off but at how cheaply. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (U92EF)
++++
Where's he been? Seriously.

I've been there since I learned that John Bolton's going price was $10k. There are high-end call girls - literal whores - who cost that much. John Bolton sold his influence for the political equivalent of a ham sandwich.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (d04cU)

152 If that worked I’d speak Korean like a native.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (JTwsP)

153 "Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew"

Did you remove your pants first?

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (ArbhN)

154 89 Tony Blair (the most talented center-left politician in Britain) had a very good election for Labour in the late 90s. His friends went from being happy to being ecstatic. He became glum suddenly, because with a blowout, there was literally nothing he might blame on the opposing party.

So "Zero Seats". You can't fix the country on the back of a phony political party. Starmer will be a disaster but enemies are better than traitors.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (cf/0E)

Rational politicians tend not to want super-majorities in their legislatures for this very reason. In CT, for instance, as liberal as Ned Lamont is he doesn't want a veto-proof supermajority here. Once he gets it, there's nothing to stop the crazies.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2024 01:54 PM (eWu9H)

155 That's not it. Try something else.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

=====

LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 01:55 PM (DRSnL)

156 The fascinating thing about mathematics is that when you're 50% right, you're 100% wrong.

Hitler's racism is used as a cudgel and is easy to talk about. It is not the underpinning of the "right-wing" argument, or it wouldn't apply to Mussolini and Franco and even Tito and Ceausescu when the academic twatwaffle is feeling honest.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:49 PM (d04cU)

Yeah, and I think people like Malice really do want to maintain that "both sides are equally bad" mentality, so they do the mental gymnastics it takes to make it work.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)

157 Colonoscopy is long overdue.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * hanging out at the corner of Sanity and Madness at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (+qILM)

158 asked him something specific about the book. And the stuttering fustercluck hemmed and hawed in his wee wee'd up way, and changed the subject back to the cool music he listens to.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (dGCAG)

Was it Dreams From My Father?

Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)

159 153 "Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew"

Did you remove your pants first?
Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:54

If we were nice, we would send him the rate sheet for the different levels of membership, along with the dress codes.

Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (aT5K/)

160 Yeah, and I think people like Malice really do want to maintain that "both sides are equally bad" mentality, so they do the mental gymnastics it takes to make it work.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)
++++
I can even understand it. The pay is good.

I can understand it. I can't respect it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (d04cU)

161 I don't want a dude jacking me
Posted by: The Thread at June 14, 2024 01:50 PM (RFPHU)

I'd have assumed that after all the Disney Space Lesbians you'd be ready to branch out.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (T7iTv)

162
Was it Dreams From My Father?
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)

Too bad that wasn't his father.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

163 I'd have assumed that after all the Disney Space Lesbians you'd be ready to branch out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (T7iTv)
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Nope. Makes me want to cut off branches. There's been way too much branching out. Some pruning shears are called for.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (d04cU)

164
I'd have assumed that after all the Disney Space Lesbians you'd be ready to branch out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (T7iTv)

Not busty enough.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

165 Was it Dreams From My Father?
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)
++++
Probably "The Audacity of Taupe"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (d04cU)

166 "Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise
-
Well, you've got to admit, picking up dead bodies is ickie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 14, 2024

***
He knew the job was ickie when he took it
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere"

As I understand, it was supposed to be a part time job, but crime is down so much he is having to put in more than 20 hours a week.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (ArbhN)

167 At various points during the war when the Germans were having production problems, Hitler opined that maybe Germany should have a fully socialist economy. Dictators gotta dictate

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (FTjSO)

168 As I understand, it was supposed to be a part time job, but crime is down so much he is having to put in more than 20 hours a week.
Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (ArbhN)
++++
Whoops.

Which jurisdiction?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (d04cU)

169 7 You can't fuck the tranny without first getting rid of the dick
Posted by: Elric Blade

Nonsense! We fuck anybody we want, whenever we want, however we want, no matter who they are!

Posted by: Federal Government at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (JCZqz)

170 Was it Dreams From My Father?
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)
++++
Probably "The Audacity of Taupe"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (d04cU)

You guys are reminding me of Audacity of Grope again and my aggravation that the RNC never took advantage of it,

Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (SHMXB)

171 I got a call from my health insurance saying I was do for a colonoscopy. I said that I thought that wasn’t until I was 50.

The lady then said, “You are 50.”

I lost count somewhere.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (JTwsP)

172 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (v0R5T)

173 If we were nice, we would send him the rate sheet for the different levels of membership, along with the dress codes.
Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (aT5K/)

Most often, posts of that nature are the work of spammers trying to get set up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (Jv1VF)

174 160 Yeah, and I think people like Malice really do want to maintain that "both sides are equally bad" mentality, so they do the mental gymnastics it takes to make it work.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)
++++
I can even understand it. The pay is good.

I can understand it. I can't respect it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (d04cU)

His book 'The White Pill', about the history of the Soviet Union, is quite good. Other than that, I don't know much about the guy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (eWu9H)

175 You guys are reminding me of Audacity of Grope again and my aggravation that the RNC never took advantage of it,
Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (SHMXB)
++++
The one kind of fucking where not only is consent not mandated, it's forbidden.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (d04cU)

176 Welp, major copy/paste fail. Apologies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (d04cU)

177 "he coroner in Prowers County, in southeast Colorado, is asking county leaders to raise his salary or he'll refuse to pick up bodies.

In a special meeting, Prowers County Commissioner Ron Cook said he was surprised to get a call from EMS crews on June 1. Cook said they told him the county coroner, Tommy Dunagan, was refusing to respond to the scene of a death because he had already worked his 20-hour work week and his deputy wasn't available over the Memorial Day weekend. "

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (ArbhN)

178 172 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?
Posted by: wth at June

Trudeau.

Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (aT5K/)

179 175 You guys are reminding me of Audacity of Grope

You rang ?

Posted by: Reggie Love at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (Akjoo)

180 The writing was on the wall for the Tories when they deliberately fucked up Brexit.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (hYDNe)

181 I got a call from my health insurance saying I was do for a colonoscopy. I said that I thought that wasn’t until I was 50.

The lady then said, “You are 50.”

I lost count somewhere.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (JTwsP)
---
Being 29 ain't what it used to be....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (7fElN)

182 ***They really believe their silly, trifling 18-month degree has bequeathed upon them unquestionable expertise in all fields. They get physically enraged when you dispute this fundamental conceit.***
---

They could be politicians. Oh, wait, they are politicians bedfellows.
They must be too stupid to be politicians, it's certainly less work.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (Iynsv)

183 Most often, posts of that nature are the work of spammers trying to get set up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I miss Sarah. Hope she's OK.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (v6JzV)

184 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (d04cU)

185 I miss Sarah. Hope she's OK.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (v6JzV)
++++
She's fine. At her weekly rate, she retired a multi-millionaire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (d04cU)

186 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?
Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (v0R5T)

Well, Macron is still married, albeit to his granny, but Trudeau and Sophie split the sheets. You decide.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (Jv1VF)

187 I got a call from my health insurance saying I was do for a colonoscopy. I said that I thought that wasn’t until I was 50.

The lady then said, “You are 50.”

I lost count somewhere.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (JTwsP)

=====

I'm a few years overdue. I'm having the worst time getting the referral to go through.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (DRSnL)

188 I'd have assumed that after all the Disney Space Lesbians you'd be ready to branch out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (T7iTv)

heh. I can't wait for the new Rey Palpatine Skywalker movie to come out before the impending nuclear apocalypse. It's been so long since I've seen a stronk independent chick character on the big screen...

Maybe they can do my sn's character's reputation some more injustice while they're at it?

Posted by: Thrawn at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (uGhsv)

189 As I understand, it was supposed to be a part time job, but crime is down so much he is having to put in more than 20 hours a week.
Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (ArbhN)

It's not really so much that crime is down as the crime is being committed by newly arrived Haitians and they get peckish.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (T7iTv)

190 I lost count somewhere.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

You stopped when you turned 29?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (v6JzV)

191 Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (IHWvd)
.......

There's a little button there that says "post".

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

192 And I have to say this: As someone who actually reads foreign newspapers, I have to say, the politics in foreign countries is hard to understand for Americans.

>>>Well, yeah, because we don't get the parliamentary system, snap elections, or spending next to nothing on national defense.

Posted by: pookysgirl anti-ranked-choice-voting at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (dtlDP)

193 asked him something specific about the book. And the stuttering fustercluck hemmed and hawed in his wee wee'd up way, and changed the subject back to the cool music he listens to.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:51 PM (dGCAG)

Was it Dreams From My Father?
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)

No, of course not! Nobody's read that book.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (dGCAG)

194 Welp, major copy/paste fail. Apologies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:00 PM (d04cU)

*considers pulling Mannix in*

I'll let it slide

Posted by: The Barrel at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (RFPHU)

195 So I discovered a LanguageHack: Watch porn in the language you're trying to learn.

(I mean, obviously you try to do as much as you can in the language you're learning, but do not sleep on the fine offerings from Europe in the Cinema of the Erotic.)
Posted by: ace
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Great. Once the Euro's catch on to your idea there will be a bunch of foreign accents quoting Debby Does Dallas.

Posted by: scampydog at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (2bFN5)

196 No, of course not! Nobody's read that book.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (dGCAG)
++++
They made a book-on-tape of it.

So at least one person read it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (d04cU)

197 But, as the right in the UK has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the fake Conservative Party that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.

Don't you mean....

But, as MAGA in the US has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the GOPe that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.

FIFA

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (0eaVi)

198 193 No, of course not! Nobody's read that book.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (dGCAG)

=======

'Member when people on the right would post some of the early paragraphs of that book on Facebook, attribute it to Sarah Palin, and the left would dig into all of the shitty writing to prove that Palin was an idiot?

Cause I 'member...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

199 http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz

For me dark haired Brunettes > Blondes .

Damnnn

Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (SHMXB)

200 http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Nice. Kinda a Jennifer Conelly vibe.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (v6JzV)

201 Was it Dreams From My Father?
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (nZYm7)
++++
Probably "The Audacity of Taupe"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:57 PM (d04cU)

You guys are reminding me of Audacity of Grope again and my aggravation that the RNC never took advantage of it,
Posted by: polynikes at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (SHMXB)
_________

Dreams of My Chef

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (iFTx/)

202 196 They made a book-on-tape of it.

So at least one person read it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (d04cU)

=======

Who says that the book on tape isn't just another book completely with a different label?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

203 Yeah, and I think people like Malice really do want to maintain that "both sides are equally bad" mentality, so they do the mental gymnastics it takes to make it work.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (dGCAG)
++++
I can even understand it. The pay is good.

I can understand it. I can't respect it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (d04cU)

That's not really Malice's thing. He's not a Daily Caller employee, or anything like that. He believes what he does, and you're not going to get a lot of phony nonsense from him. He's just... wrong sometimes.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 02:03 PM (dGCAG)

204 I'm a few years overdue. I'm having the worst time getting the referral to go through.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (DRSnL)

You're supposed to use the liquid stuff, not the referral.

Posted by: Doof at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (RFPHU)

205 As I understand, it was supposed to be a part time job, but crime is down so much he is having to put in more than 20 hours a week.
Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (ArbhN)
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Our county coroner goes to my church. He can tell a lot of stories about what he's seen. Much of it is *very* unpleasant. You also have to deal with the grieving family members.

It takes someone quite special to do that job well. Fortunately, we have that guy in our county and in our church.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (7fElN)

206 >>>181 I got a call from my health insurance saying I was do for a colonoscopy. I said that I thought that wasn’t until I was 50.

The lady then said, “You are 50.”

I lost count somewhere.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
--------------------

Tell them you don't want propofol, you want the good stuff.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (Iynsv)

207 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

She's got big feet.

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (v0R5T)

208 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?
Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (v0R5T)

Trudeau. Not even close.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (T7iTv)

209 The original title was Dreams of My Father, Whoever He Was”, but they shortened it .

True story.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (JTwsP)

210 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024

***
She looks sunburned. Lovely, but sunburned.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (J2vNu)

211 She's got big feet.
Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (v0R5T)
++++
Quelle horreur!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (d04cU)

212 >>" The media Emperors have no clothes. They are ludicrously uniformed and stupid. They are a bunch of loud, angry drunks in a bar screaming their ignorant opinions at everyone 24 hours a day, and when you ask them what reading they've done or experiences they've lived give them such absolute surety about the world outside of NY and DC newsrooms, they all say the same thing: "I am a JOURNALIST. Journalism school taught me how to think, and how to know things well outside of my training or experience. Journalism school taught me how to think without reason and to know without reading."

This is about me, isn't it.

Posted by: bill o'reilly at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (rJ48h)

213 His book 'The White Pill', about the history of the Soviet Union, is quite good. Other than that, I don't know much about the guy.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (eWu9H)

"The New Right" is a great book, but probably getting a bit outdated by now.

Then there's his Nork book, "Dear Leader." I think it would be accurate to say there's not been a better book about North Korea written in English.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (dGCAG)

214 It always amazed that in Europe it didn't matter who won the vote - far left, left, center, right - you always, always got the same policies.

And since 1999 we've moved in the same direction here.

Remember all the things people expected Shrub was going to do? We all agreed the then $2T budget was bloated and needed serious cuts and...nothing.

Immigration? People want immigration stopped. And we got...comprehensive immigration reform

and on and on...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:05 PM (ibTVg)

215 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?
Posted by: wth at June 14, 2024 01:59 PM (v0R5T)

Trudeau. Not even close.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Fidel would be so disappointed in him.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:06 PM (v6JzV)

216 ace, a view into the clownshow that French politics has become is laid out by Substack Meaning in History, threading a twitter thread by Arnaud Bertrand

https://tinyurl.com/37kev4b6

You might review it, it is hilarious in a very black, French surrealist theatre sort of way

Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2024 02:06 PM (D7oie)

217 More gay... Macron or Trudeau?

Macron has a mommy fetish. Trudeau like young teens.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:06 PM (ibTVg)

218 They made a book-on-tape of it.

So at least one person read it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024

***
If you mean the book-on-tape of Jugears' "story," didn't he read it for the recording?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:06 PM (J2vNu)

219 Tell them you don't want propofol, you want the good stuff.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2024 02:04 PM (Iynsv)
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Hey! I enjoy my propofol cocktail when I go there...The room starts spinning, I go "WHEEE!" and then it's lights out for about an hour.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2024 02:06 PM (7fElN)

220 "Our county coroner goes to my church. He can tell a lot of stories about what he's seen. Much of it is *very* unpleasant. You also have to deal with the grieving family members."

I had a coroner for a client years ago. He had an office across the street from the hospital where he had a bunch of computers setup to trade commodities. He could make or lose $100K in a day and just blow it off. He also had 4 or 5 parrots in there and smoked cigars all the time. What a character.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:07 PM (ArbhN)

221 Well, Macron is still married, albeit to his granny, but Trudeau and Sophie split the sheets. You decide.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------------------------------

From the group G7 picture he has lost any boyish good looks he may have had, looking more and more like his grim father. Put on a few more pounds and he will grow a beard and start smoking cigars.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2024 02:07 PM (Iynsv)

222 All over the world you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Mitt Romney.

Posted by: DAN at June 14, 2024 02:08 PM (eCnv0)

223 Oh yeah and the stories he would tell would curl your toes and curdle your stomach.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:08 PM (ArbhN)

224 He also had 4 or 5 parrots in there and smoked cigars all the time. What a character.
Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:07 PM (ArbhN)

Polly (hack, hack) want a (cough, cough) cracker!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 02:08 PM (Jv1VF)

225 Which begs the question: Is Trump the problem, or is Trump a symptom of the problem? If the "problem" that progressives see in the U.S. is also happening in many countries around the world, then Trump is just the American manifestation of the "problem".

So, what is the real problem? Populism. What is populism? It's the term elites use to describe a situation where the people don't agree with them on the issues. What issues don't the people agree with the elites on?

1) Focus - elites waste huge amounts of time on trivial issues (white supremacy, pronouns, DEI, etc.).

2) The elites keep showing us they are incompetent/wrong. COVID is a good example.

3) Immigration, energy costs, climate change - the elites are ignoring any and all concerns the people have on these issues and plowing forward with polices the people hate.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at June 14, 2024 02:09 PM (nLFEI)

226 207 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

She's got big feet.
Posted by: wth at June

Well yeah, she has to be able to stand up and not fall forward.

Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 02:09 PM (aT5K/)

227 This post in meme form:
https://tinyurl.com/3hk8syuc

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 14, 2024 02:09 PM (ZdexC)

228 A few years ago the corner of one Parish was the highest paid public employee in Louisiana. Made more than the governor.

The dumasses that wrote the laws let him set his own pay.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 02:10 PM (JTwsP)

229 Immigration, energy costs, climate change - the elites are ignoring any and all concerns the people have on these issues and plowing forward with polices the people hate.

The elites believe that they need to reduce the world population by 95% and soon. Its not so much they don't care about the wants of normal people, its that the elites want them dead.

So they want just a fig leaf to keep the population docile while they deal with them...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:10 PM (ibTVg)

230 Great ruling on the bumpstock case. 6-3, FU, ATF.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 14, 2024 02:10 PM (Wnv9h)

231 You also have to deal with the grieving family members.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Why would a coroner have to deal with the family members? Wouldn't that be the job of law enforcement?

Or can the family hire the coroner directly?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (v6JzV)

232 Great ruling on the bumpstock case. 6-3, FU, ATF.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 14, 2024 02:10 PM (Wnv9h)

Gee. I wonder who the 3 were.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

233 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:01 PM (d04cU)
_________

Something off about this pic warning me to stay away. Verdict: Unbangable.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (iFTx/)

234 In fairness to the Tories, the Indian guy running things now is better then any of their recent leaders.

Of course to call that a low bar really understates the reality...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (ibTVg)

235 227 This post in meme form:
https://tinyurl.com/3hk8syuc
Posted by: andycanuck
------------------------------

You left out the attractive fireball in the center.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2024 02:12 PM (Iynsv)

236 "Polly (hack, hack) want a (cough, cough) cracker!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

Ha! The rest of the story is, a couple of years after I quit doing work for the guy, my Dad went to a Stop Smoking clinic and guess who was teaching it?

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:12 PM (ArbhN)

237 'They really believe their silly, trifling 18-month degree has bequeathed upon them unquestionable expertise in all fields. They get physically enraged when you dispute this fundamental conceit.'

That's because their journalism degree is their ticket and validation (as they see it) to the elite class. It is a sad fig leaf, but one they will clutch to until their last dying gasp.

Posted by: norrin radd at June 14, 2024 02:13 PM (j643M)

238 Ha! The rest of the story is, a couple of years after I quit doing work for the guy, my Dad went to a Stop Smoking clinic and guess who was teaching it?
Posted by: fd
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The parrots?

Posted by: scampydog at June 14, 2024 02:13 PM (2bFN5)

239 234 In fairness to the Tories, the Indian guy running things now is better then any of their recent leaders.

Of course to call that a low bar really understates the reality...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (ibTVg)

I heard somewhere that after the Tories lose everything on July 4th, he and his wife will be moving to the US. Probably work for a lobbying firm or something like that.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 14, 2024 02:13 PM (uGhsv)

240 This post in meme form:
https://tinyurl.com/3hk8syuc
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 14, 2024 02:09 PM (ZdexC)
___________

[Nodding sagely]

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 02:13 PM (iFTx/)

241 They made a book-on-tape of it.

So at least one person read it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:02 PM (d04cU)

So someone read that book out loud with a straight face? Man, I hope they were well-compensated.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (XPM1I)

242 So someone read that book out loud with a straight face? Man, I hope they were well-compensated.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (XPM1I)
++++
Someone upthread said it was The Won himself.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (d04cU)

243 "Why would a coroner have to deal with the family members? Wouldn't that be the job of law enforcement?

Or can the family hire the coroner directly?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus"

They are probably often present for identification of the body and discussion of the autopsy.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (ArbhN)

244 Sounds an awful lot like imperialism to me...

@joelpollak 6m
State Department, at Behest of Khashoggi Group, Sanctions Israeli Protesters

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (IG4Id)

245 The entire NFA needs to be overturned. It only stops law abiding people. Criminals get whatever they want easily.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (JTwsP)

246 I'd have assumed that after all the Disney Space Lesbians you'd be ready to branch out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 14, 2024 01:56 PM (T7iTv)

Not busty enough.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Like Rey, the lead here is cute enough I guess, but certainly not busty: https://tinyurl.com/3jsj83db

She is, however, everything else you'd expect from modern Disney: black, female, and all the queer checkboxes: In January 2016, Stenberg came out as bisexual though she subsequently stated that pansexual was an accurate term as well. That March, Stenberg came out as non-binary, and uses both she/her and they/them pronouns. In June 2018, in an interview with Wonderland magazine, she came out as gay.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (JCZqz)

247 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

She's got big feet.
Posted by: wth at June
---------
Who are you, really? Rob Liefeld?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (hYDNe)

248 "The parrots?
Posted by: scampydog"

They probably have outlasted him.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (ArbhN)

249 Somehow the address list at my work has been hacked. Everybody on emails now has the last name of "McClure."

I wonder if there's anybody here with the real first name of "Troy" . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (J2vNu)

250 A few years ago the coroner of one Parish was the highest paid public employee in Louisiana. Made more than the governor.

The dumasses that wrote the laws let him set his own pay.
===
Quincy's Law!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (ZdexC)

251 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (JCZqz)

=======

I thought about clicking.

But I pended that decision just long enough to see who had written.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

252 Huh, I always thought Trudeau was a small man, in both mentality and height. I was wrong about the height.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (JeYYB)

253 In ALL of these stories they talk about the far right, the extreme right, the right fringe...yet the stories themselves are about majorities being earned, a majority or a strong plurality is incontrovertible confirmation that the "Far/Fringe/Extreme" modifiers are false...they are the "Mainstream" of the public thought/policy/support.
Those who cannot/will not acknowledge that fact are Fringe/Far/Extreme LEFT, by very definition, no matter what language it is being written in.

Posted by: birdog at June 14, 2024 02:16 PM (+Fkyb)

254 Huh, I always thought Trudeau was a small man, in both mentality and height. I was wrong about the height.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 14, 2024 02:15 PM (JeYYB)
++++
Well, he did win a popular election.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:16 PM (d04cU)

255 In ALL of these stories they talk about the far right, the extreme right, the right fringe...yet the stories themselves are about majorities being earned, a majority or a strong plurality is incontrovertible confirmation that the "Far/Fringe/Extreme" modifiers are false...they are the "Mainstream" of the public thought/policy/support.
Those who cannot/will not acknowledge that fact are Fringe/Far/Extreme LEFT, by very definition, no matter what language it is being written in.
Posted by: birdog at June 14, 2024 02:16 PM (+Fkyb)
++++
It has nothing to do with support, but with ideology.

The Left Pole is where the good and moral and righteous people live. The normal. The mainstream. The proper.

Everything else is extreme-right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:17 PM (d04cU)

256 Someone upthread said it was The Won himself.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024 02:14 PM (d04cU)

I imaging even he had to stifle a giggle every now and then.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 14, 2024 02:17 PM (XPM1I)

257 I don't know about parrots but Kamala has certainly seen a cockatoo in her day.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 14, 2024 02:17 PM (ZdexC)

258 I like Nigel Farage. I wish him well. Him and Dan Hannan (whatever happened to him anyway?) are two of the only Brits that seem to have their heads on straight.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 14, 2024 02:17 PM (xcxpd)

259 234 In fairness to the Tories, the Indian guy running things now is better then any of their recent leaders.

Of course to call that a low bar really understates the reality...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2024 02:11 PM (ibTVg)
______
That's not what they think at the Lotus Eaters. Their favorite of the recent PMs was Truss, who they think is not very bright, but sound at heart. Which is why she was knifed so quickly.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (1bNHn)

260 Italian papers noting Biden is a mess.

https://tinyurl.com/4zr8ynav

Posted by: Piper at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (/sySz)

261 The weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

262 261 The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

=======

Nah. It's over there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

263 I thought about clicking.

But I pended that decision just long enough to see who had written.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Understandable. It wasn't my most memorable image, but I enjoyed the entirely predictable "queer journey" the actress took to be marketable lol

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (JCZqz)

264 So someone read that book out loud with a straight face? Man, I hope they were well-compensated.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 14, 2024
++++
Someone upthread said it was The Won himself.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024

***
I thought he did. It led to my conclusion that, no matter where he was born, and I lean to Kenya, Jugears is not an American. That book contained his story of having to eat dog in Indonesia when he was a child. Well, if he had *any* idea of how Americans feel about their pets, he'd have never let that go into the book. And if he was so lazy that he never read it in galleys, he'd have had to read it aloud during the recording session.

Since he apparently didn't throw that bit out, he has no idea how Americans think and feel. Because he's not one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

265 http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

She's got big feet.
_____

Oh my!

Posted by: Dick Morris at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (fs1hN)

266 when life gives you lemons . . . Make lemonade I guess

https://youtu.be/-GAwqQS0kK8

Posted by: Kindltot at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (D7oie)

267 This busty bikini brunette wishes the frustrated rube normals of Europe's corrupt nations all the best:
http://tiny.cc/v8jlyz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She looks fun

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (xcxpd)

268 6 Someone upthread said it was The Won himself.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2024
*
I imaging even he had to stifle a giggle every now and then.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 14, 2024

***
I'll bet he stifles giggles all the time, even in private.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (J2vNu)

269 I am in Barnsville MN sipping a DQ chocolate MALT. Small town USA. YAY! Sign on the counter says they are hiring, starting pay $12-13. I crossed a comtinental divide an hour ago. When I take a leak in this area it ends up in Hudson Bay not the Gulf of Mexico.

Posted by: Gref at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (a4AvT)

270 The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

=======

Nah. It's over there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, obsessively pursuing evil with Friedkin while riding the Wasteland with Mad Max at June 14, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)
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The Yanks are coming!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (hYDNe)

271 I heard somewhere that after the Tories lose everything on July 4th, he and his wife will be moving to the US. Probably work for a lobbying firm or something like that.
Posted by: Thrawn at June 14, 2024 02:13 PM (uGhsv)

Nope. Opening a Qwiki Mart.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (0eaVi)

272 My great grandparents who emigrated here from Perugia, Umbria kept a picture of Mussolini in their home until they had to put it out of sight during WWII. They hated the Pope for his occupation and oppression of Umbria before and after Napoleon was driven out.

Posted by: rse at June 14, 2024 02:21 PM (nos7q)

273 Ace: "Will the American GOP get the message before we desert them as well?"

Two encouraging signs - Trump controls the RNC and Trump's meeting with the Speaker of the House and senior House members was nice to see. I can't imagine under similar circumstances that Paul Ryan would be willing to show up for a meeting like that.

Posted by: mrp at June 14, 2024 02:21 PM (rj6Yv)

274 I am in Barnsville MN sipping a DQ chocolate MALT. Small town USA. YAY! Sign on the counter says they are hiring, starting pay $12-13. I crossed a comtinental divide an hour ago. When I take a leak in this area it ends up in Hudson Bay not the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Gref at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (a4AvT)
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andycanuck and AOP need to watch out, then.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 14, 2024 02:21 PM (hYDNe)

275 nood Biden

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 14, 2024 02:22 PM (ZdexC)

276 The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

=====

I'm the only one in the office today. Sad.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2024 02:22 PM (DRSnL)

277 I am in Barnsville MN sipping a DQ chocolate MALT.

Posted by: Gref at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (a4AvT)

Texas Town Hall
(for Jim in Cali)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 14, 2024 02:22 PM (0eaVi)

278 Testing to see how to post a comment
Posted by: Andrew at June 14, 2024 01:46 PM (IHWvd)
.......

There's a little button there that says "post".

Oh, crap! This is the advanced course!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 14, 2024 02:22 PM (dZVON)

279 They hated the Pope for his occupation and oppression of Umbria before and after Napoleon was driven out.
Posted by: rse at June 14, 2024 02:21 PM (nos7q)
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Talk about holding a grudge...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 14, 2024 02:22 PM (hYDNe)

280 I am in Barnsville MN sipping a DQ chocolate MALT. Small town USA. YAY! Sign on the counter says they are hiring, starting pay $12-13. I crossed a comtinental divide an hour ago. When I take a leak in this area it ends up in Hudson Bay not the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Gref
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About 2:10 NW of where I'm at today.

Posted by: scampydog at June 14, 2024 02:23 PM (2bFN5)

281 The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024

***
About two more hours for me before I can slide out for home.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 14, 2024 02:23 PM (J2vNu)

282 275 nood Biden
___

Dad! Get out of my shower!

Posted by: Ashley B. at June 14, 2024 02:24 PM (fs1hN)

283 When I take a leak in this area it ends up in Hudson Bay not the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Gref

Fun fact: Hydrologically speaking, Hudson Bay is considered part of the Arctic Ocean, not the Atlantic.

That's why that mountain in Glacier Nat. Park is called "Three Oceans Peak." One of the streams flows into the Saskatchewan River, which flows into Hudson Bay.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 14, 2024 02:24 PM (v6JzV)

284 Never read Dreams of my Father, What did Bill Ayres's father do to get a book written about him anyway?

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2024 02:25 PM (fwDg9)

285 I am in Barnsville MN sipping a DQ chocolate MALT. Small town USA. YAY! Sign on the counter says they are hiring, starting pay $12-13. I crossed a comtinental divide an hour ago. When I take a leak in this area it ends up in Hudson Bay not the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Gref at June 14, 2024 02:20 PM (a4AvT)

I am in the same watershed. (waves)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 14, 2024 02:30 PM (Jv1VF)

286 284 Never read Dreams of my Father, What did Bill Ayres's father do to get a book written about him anyway?
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He was CEO of Consolidated Edison for something like 20 years.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 14, 2024 02:30 PM (pZ64F)

287 "Colorado coroner refuses to pick up any more bodies unless he gets a pay rise"

Terminate immediately.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at June 14, 2024 01:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

Don't even think about it!

Posted by: Cooroners Union Of Colorado Local 292 at June 14, 2024 02:34 PM (iODuv)

288 At various points during the war when the Germans were having production problems, Hitler opined that maybe Germany should have a fully socialist economy. Dictators gotta dictate
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 14, 2024 01:58 PM (FTjSO)

Weirdly, German industry didn't go to a full war-time economy until the middle of 1944.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 14, 2024 02:37 PM (mzM2O)

289 Wow. Read it.
Thank you. I know you aren't a journalist but it doesn't matter to me.

I can't stand Twitter but I go there like people who stare at the carnage of a car accident as they drive by.

Posted by: torabora at June 14, 2024 03:03 PM (nbilO)

290 You can't fuck the tranny without first getting rid of the dick
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2024 01:23 PM (iFTx/)
****
Don't tell me what to do!

Posted by: David French at June 14, 2024 03:05 PM (nbilO)

291 To give you a clue, for the first time in 50 years I've joined a political Party, Reform.
Farage is gaining ground with young people, Gen Z over here is somewhat more conservative than people think. My kids are, but then I raised them with common sense.
Your sentiments are correct, first we need to destroy the Conservatives or else they will forever be the slightly less worse alternative to Labour. 4 years of Labour and the country will be ready for a conservative (small c) party.Not happy about that, but omelettes, eggs and all that.

Posted by: PoliticalMcguffin at June 14, 2024 03:15 PM (uTzkn)

292 Hitler had to be right wing since he didn't like Jews.

Oh wait.
Posted by: ... at June 14, 2024 01:42 PM (nZYm7)
****
I've been looking for this particular bon mot.

Pure poetry

Posted by: torabora at June 14, 2024 03:19 PM (nbilO)

293 All that infighting is going on while the Russian Bear is tearing up their garden out in their backyard.

Posted by: torabora at June 14, 2024 03:22 PM (nbilO)

294 But, as the right in the UK has realized: We have to beat our first enemy first, and our first enemy is the fake Conservative Party that we vote for only to see it implement the left's agenda with gusto.

-------

You guys memba the thread this morning where a buncha people said they'd vote fore a hard-Left Republican?

Yeah, I 'memba!

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at June 14, 2024 04:11 PM (Ud0P/)

295 Wow! Sounds like what's happening here as millions more Americans are opening their eyes to the fact that the Republican Party is 100% full of shit.

That's why the GOP hates it's voters, hates you and hates Donald Trump. But they will sing the song of Trump all day long just to get elected.

Posted by: Tracy at June 14, 2024 06:58 PM (2aUa7)

296 Is Nigel Farage playing the part of Preston Manning for the UK? will he make the same mistakes of Preston Manning? Will the Tories get Kim Campbelled?

Posted by: JD at June 15, 2024 10:38 AM (O57th)

297 It's difficult to find knowledցeabⅼe people on this topic, but you
sound like you know wһаt you're talking about!
Thanks

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