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Gun Thread: Father's Day Edition!
FUNdamentals
Did you go to the range? Are you a WeaselDoctrine adherent and focusing on fundamentals? If so, what results are you seeing? If not, why not? What do you have to lose? Here's a video on pistol malfunctions. Note big watch on shooter.
Katana Korner
Arato stone can you spot the defect? click for hint
This is the second Arato stone, or the second coarsest stone used. You can see it's just a pretty coarse and scratchy surface at this point although you can see the hamon (temper line) beginning to show. You can also see the small flaw that we discussed before starting. This is a spot where the softer core steel is coming through the harder skin steel. A flaw like this can not be removed, but will hopefully become a little less prominent with further polishing. It's unfortunate, but when you're four hundred years old, you will probably have a few blemishes too.Q:Weasel, are you going to be wrinkly and blemished when you get to be 400 years old?
A:Are we talking people years or WeaselYears?
binsui-do stone click to embiggn
This is the binsui-do, roughly the third stone. Not much to look at so far. Like I originally described, just different variations of scratchy and gray until we get much closer to the end. This stone dose not cut as quickly as the arato, so the surface is a bit less uniform, but the geometry is actually getting sharper and more precise with each successive stone.Well will you looky right there! it's starting to clean up and I can sort of see patterns in the steel! What are Arato and Binsui-do stones you ask? Here is probably more than you wanted to know about water stones and grit.
Objective: No Leftover Parts!
Here's GunBlue490 with another instructional 1911 video.
The X-15!
Operation Plumbbob!
Story of Copper
We've seen the story of lead, so now we'll turn our attention to the Story of Copper!
Musical Interlude
Here is Glen Miller and Chattanooga Choo Choo.
Gun Basics 101
No new video from the She Equips Herself gal, so with summer travel time here, let's go to the archives and review checking a firearm for a flight.
There's a truism in the cigar industry that each handmade cigar reaching the consumer has been touched by 300 hands. From harvest of the leaf, to curing, fermentation, aging, selection, cutting and rolling, every step is labor-intensive. Southern Draw launched the 300 Hands line over five years ago with the intention of bringing the stories of Nicaraguan cigar workers to the consumer, and donating 25% of profits from the line to worthy causes benefiting these workers and their families. Each pack comes with a card telling the story of a Nicaraguan cigar industry worker. There are 3 blends in the line - habano, maduro, and the one reviewed here, Connecticut. It has a US Connecticut wrapper over a Peruvian binder, with Nicaraguan and Dominican filler. For me this one offers a fairly standard Connecticut experience - mild body, notes of light wood and hay. No real sweetness or baking spices as with many Connecticuts, but also no bitterness. Construction is good, burn line needed only a little touching up. A good basic Connecticut in the value category, something to burn at the driving (or when possible, shooting) range, on the golf course, or around the yard. Available online from just under $4 and up.Excellent, rhomboid! Thank you!
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Nicks Cigar World New! A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)
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Bang
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2024 07:00 PM (LHPAg)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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YAY, Gun THread!
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 07:03 PM (AWrpC)
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Didn't get to range, but did partially clean my 1911 as the slide lock function. So took the grip parts all apart and put it back together. It was a buggy to get apart, will do it again soon and oil it this time. Mabe take the slide apart next time.
Question, can the bluing be touched up?
Question, can the bluing be touched up?
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:03 PM (fwDg9)
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Buy ammo.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:04 PM (wpInm)
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Basically, that store in Yuma didn't really change. It's just under different management with a different age group targetd.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 07:04 PM (AWrpC)
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Great seeing the progress of the Weasel Katana.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 07:05 PM (Wnv9h)
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Very sweet watching that blade come back to life as if by magic. That Dave knows his stuff!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2024 07:07 PM (R/m4+)
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I got a cheap ultra sonic cleaner and cleaned some jewelry and the Volquartson Black Mamba. Hopefully it works still. 😁
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:08 PM (PZo5T)
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Good evening horde. Thanks Weasel.
Went to Gettysburg today with visiting family. Saw lots of gubs. Traced an ancestor who was there in period. Good day.
Went to Gettysburg today with visiting family. Saw lots of gubs. Traced an ancestor who was there in period. Good day.
Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Hello, Weasel! No range time this week. I went to the Chantilly show on Friday and Saturday. The shows in the summer months are usually slower than the ones in the winter months, and this one was no exception. I picked up a H&K commemorative edition of the M27 rifle that the USMC made standard issue for Marine infantry. This is probably the closest one can get to a H&K 416. And, like most H&K products, it didn't come cheap.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 07:10 PM (yRXSd)
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It did get the gun very clean.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:11 PM (PZo5T)
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Thank you for the update on the katana and putting it all on one link. My Aikido teacher absolutely loved the story and he was surprised to learn about a togishi being in the States.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 16, 2024 07:11 PM (lXCUP)
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TRex my sister and niece live in that neighborhood, I just told my parents I need to go visit some weekend
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:12 PM (fwDg9)
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Are you a WeaselDoctrine adherent and focusing on fundamentals?
I did get to the range LAST weekend! And, while I also had a little fun with some new guns at the DMV MGC, one of them taught me my trigger control was CRAP.
Blaster brought his Ace o' Spades .22LR revolver. I discovered myself pushing forward (anticipating) AND not really squeezing as well as I thought I was.
So, with that awareness, I bought myself a Heritage Rough Rider .22 revolver this week. (It has the flag on it, instead of blaster's AoS design.) I intend to spend a LOT of time working fundamentals with that gun, until I can confidently say I'm paying attention consistently to those fundamentals.
I might buy a .22 semi in the near future, as well. But, first, we'll work just the trigger stuff with the revolver.
Oh, and a shoutout to the DMV MGC: THANK YOU for inviting me and letting me shoot with you. It's always a pleasure, and I do get something out of it besides all the great camaraderie.
I did get to the range LAST weekend! And, while I also had a little fun with some new guns at the DMV MGC, one of them taught me my trigger control was CRAP.
Blaster brought his Ace o' Spades .22LR revolver. I discovered myself pushing forward (anticipating) AND not really squeezing as well as I thought I was.
So, with that awareness, I bought myself a Heritage Rough Rider .22 revolver this week. (It has the flag on it, instead of blaster's AoS design.) I intend to spend a LOT of time working fundamentals with that gun, until I can confidently say I'm paying attention consistently to those fundamentals.
I might buy a .22 semi in the near future, as well. But, first, we'll work just the trigger stuff with the revolver.
Oh, and a shoutout to the DMV MGC: THANK YOU for inviting me and letting me shoot with you. It's always a pleasure, and I do get something out of it besides all the great camaraderie.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 07:13 PM (AWrpC)
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Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
TRex, were you able to find the place where your ancestor's regiment was on the battlefield? Most regiments that were there put up monuments noting their presence on the field in the years after the war.
TRex, were you able to find the place where your ancestor's regiment was on the battlefield? Most regiments that were there put up monuments noting their presence on the field in the years after the war.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 07:14 PM (yRXSd)
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I should have looked at past Gun threads as it took about watching 6 different videos how to get my 80s series 1911 apart and together
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:14 PM (fwDg9)
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Oh and Goof Off seems to clean residue pretty well
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (fwDg9)
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Went to Gettysburg today with visiting family. Saw lots of gubs. Traced an ancestor who was there in period. Good day.
Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Gettysburg is such a great destination. WW and I used to go frequently and stay in what we found out was a HAUNTED house. If you people are nice and remind me I might tell our ghost story in the Halloween Gun Thread.
Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Gettysburg is such a great destination. WW and I used to go frequently and stay in what we found out was a HAUNTED house. If you people are nice and remind me I might tell our ghost story in the Halloween Gun Thread.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (JwHpX)
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14 Thank you for the update on the katana and putting it all on one link. My Aikido teacher absolutely loved the story and he was surprised to learn about a togishi being in the States.
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Did you snatch the pebble from his hand yet??
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Did you snatch the pebble from his hand yet??
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (ZdexC)
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Geoffrey Giraffe handles your 4473.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (qZEuM)
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 07:17 PM (yRXSd)
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So, with that awareness, I bought myself a Heritage Rough Rider .22 revolver this week. (It has the flag on it, instead of blaster's AoS design.) I intend to spend a LOT of time working fundamentals with that gun, until I can confidently say I'm paying attention consistently to those fundamentals.
Posted by: GWB
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Did you get the 22WMR cylindar too?
When I got a Rough Rider it did not come with one was cheap enough to order direct (info in the box).
Kind of cool to shoot 22 short sub-sonic to 22WMR with one little revolver.
Posted by: GWB
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Did you get the 22WMR cylindar too?
When I got a Rough Rider it did not come with one was cheap enough to order direct (info in the box).
Kind of cool to shoot 22 short sub-sonic to 22WMR with one little revolver.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:19 PM (cOq4q)
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Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (JwHpX)
I'll have to relate some of the rather . . . strange . . . things that occurred there when we were filming the movie.
I'll have to relate some of the rather . . . strange . . . things that occurred there when we were filming the movie.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 16, 2024 07:20 PM (9y1VL)
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Weasel, thank you for the progress reports on your katana. I never would have spotted that defect w/o the hint. Guess restoring katana isn't for me...
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 07:21 PM (yRXSd)
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Some team mates went to Staccato Ranch on Friday. It's in Florence, TX. Heard it was an awesome place to shoot and you can join now for only $300/month and the initiation fee is waved. 😱
Still too rich for my blood plus it's an hour and a half away with no traffic.
They had an "experience" which included all the ammo and they got to shoot everything made by Staccato including guns and ammo not available to the general public yet. Plus ammo was included. Since there were 3 kids from the team they said they shot over a 1000 rounds. They were very hesitant to have the kids on the property at first They weren't hesitant when the kids were done That seems to happen a lot with the kids. When they go to adults steel challenges the people always think that the kids are gonna hold up everything when in fact, the kids are usually being held up by the teams before them.
Still too rich for my blood plus it's an hour and a half away with no traffic.
They had an "experience" which included all the ammo and they got to shoot everything made by Staccato including guns and ammo not available to the general public yet. Plus ammo was included. Since there were 3 kids from the team they said they shot over a 1000 rounds. They were very hesitant to have the kids on the property at first They weren't hesitant when the kids were done That seems to happen a lot with the kids. When they go to adults steel challenges the people always think that the kids are gonna hold up everything when in fact, the kids are usually being held up by the teams before them.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:22 PM (PZo5T)
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So can bluing be touched up?
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:22 PM (fwDg9)
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I'll have to relate some of the rather . . . strange . . . things that occurred there when we were filming the movie.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 16, 2024 07:20 PM (9y1VL)
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It'd be fun to have a ghost story GT. Write it up and send it to me!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 16, 2024 07:20 PM (9y1VL)
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It'd be fun to have a ghost story GT. Write it up and send it to me!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:23 PM (JwHpX)
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It’s an honor and upgrade to be mis-ID’d as Diogenes, but he might not like the association ….
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (p+X/W)
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It'd be fun to have a ghost story GT. Write it up and send it to me!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:23 PM (JwHpX)
Will do.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:23 PM (JwHpX)
Will do.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (9y1VL)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Had lunch with my girlchild today at a place called The Meat Project. Many things are bad in this world. This was a good thing.
Had lunch with my girlchild today at a place called The Meat Project. Many things are bad in this world. This was a good thing.
Posted by: George Miller at June 16, 2024 07:26 PM (IFNME)
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Evening everyone. Sorry I cannot stay.
At one of my brother's for Father's Day.
Will be here next week!!l
At one of my brother's for Father's Day.
Will be here next week!!l
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 16, 2024 07:27 PM (f0/sc)
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Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:22 PM (fwDg9)
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Yes, but your results will vary. I think Beechwood sells a cold blue product which might be worth a try. Frankly, I just use a Sharpie. If you're talking a valuable collectors item firearm, I'd look for a professional opinion.
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Yes, but your results will vary. I think Beechwood sells a cold blue product which might be worth a try. Frankly, I just use a Sharpie. If you're talking a valuable collectors item firearm, I'd look for a professional opinion.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:28 PM (JwHpX)
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It’s an honor and upgrade to be mis-ID’d as Diogenes, but he might not like the association ….
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (p+X/W)
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rhomboid,
I just sent weasel a note telling him it wasn't my review.
It should of been obvious...all your words are correctly spelled.
Good review too.
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (p+X/W)
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rhomboid,
I just sent weasel a note telling him it wasn't my review.
It should of been obvious...all your words are correctly spelled.
Good review too.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2024 07:28 PM (W/lyH)
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So, with that awareness, I bought myself a Heritage Rough Rider .22 revolver this week. (It has the flag on it, instead of blaster's AoS design.) I intend to spend a LOT of time working fundamentals with that gun, until I can confidently say I'm paying attention consistently to those fundamentals.
It's definitely not a modern anything. Requires mucho fundamentals. The sights, such as they are, consist of a front blade and a small groove on the backstrap. Difficult to get used to the sight picture.
It's definitely not a modern anything. Requires mucho fundamentals. The sights, such as they are, consist of a front blade and a small groove on the backstrap. Difficult to get used to the sight picture.
Posted by: George Miller at June 16, 2024 07:28 PM (IFNME)
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Whether Weasel years or not, I'm guessing that it's not the age that matters, it's the mileage.
Posted by: scottst at June 16, 2024 07:28 PM (yjKqP)
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Are you a WeaselDoctrine adherent and focusing on fundamentals?
Just how extensive is WeaselDoctrine? Beyond focusing on fundamentals and buying ammo, what about areas like:
Rice in your rear rest pad?
Watch sizes >= 43 mm?
Meals that take more than 2 minutes from prep to consummation?
Asking for Gun Thread Commentators.
Just how extensive is WeaselDoctrine? Beyond focusing on fundamentals and buying ammo, what about areas like:
Rice in your rear rest pad?
Watch sizes >= 43 mm?
Meals that take more than 2 minutes from prep to consummation?
Asking for Gun Thread Commentators.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (wpInm)
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lin-duh - Staccato Ranch like Staccato pistols?
Posted by: George Miller at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (IFNME)
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Home plate umpires are doing their damnedest to get replaced with AI.
I have no gun.
I have no sword.
I went thru the Japanese waterstone business with my plane irons. I use PSA polyester lapping film and a Tormek.
I have no gun.
I have no sword.
I went thru the Japanese waterstone business with my plane irons. I use PSA polyester lapping film and a Tormek.
Posted by: Jamaica at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (IG7T0)
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Gub! Joe Walker was a steely-eyed missal man badass.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (mH6SG)
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That's a misplaced sock!
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (IFNME)
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30 It’s an honor and upgrade to be mis-ID’d as Diogenes, but he might not like the association ….
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (p+X/W)
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Aw, crap. Apologies amigo!
Just joshin’.
What’s burning this evening, Weasel? Crowned Heads Le Patissier here. After many months our famous weather has returned, so burnin’ on the porch in shorts and sandals.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:25 PM (p+X/W)
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Aw, crap. Apologies amigo!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (JwHpX)
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I’m here.
I lied earlier. I did not go to the range or grill a steak.
I laid in my hammock and thought about gubs and I grilled lamb chops.
I’m saving my ammo for later this week.
I lied earlier. I did not go to the range or grill a steak.
I laid in my hammock and thought about gubs and I grilled lamb chops.
I’m saving my ammo for later this week.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:30 PM (HDGM5)
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My BIL made a black powder cannon. Long ago. He still has it. Machined stainless steel, maybe 50 cal, maybe larger. What I recall is that we used a 35mm plastic film canister to load the powder, and a bunch of face tissue packed tight to the powder charge. Like a whole film canister tightly packed.
No projectile.
A fuse like on an M80 or cherry bomb. And BOOM! Huge report and a cloud of smoke, the cannon knocked back a couple feet on its carriage.
I see them for sale on line, cannons in 50 cal bore that look about like what we fired back in the day, as they say.
But I don't own one.
Am thinking about a golf ball mortar, though. Anybody have anything to report on those?
No projectile.
A fuse like on an M80 or cherry bomb. And BOOM! Huge report and a cloud of smoke, the cannon knocked back a couple feet on its carriage.
I see them for sale on line, cannons in 50 cal bore that look about like what we fired back in the day, as they say.
But I don't own one.
Am thinking about a golf ball mortar, though. Anybody have anything to report on those?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 16, 2024 07:30 PM (ZtgZZ)
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Trigger time at an historic low for a while, was in the shop to have some work done, but recovering quickly and range duty day this week, so brass will be emptied.
Fundamentals will be the focus, and time away may help get a clean-ish restart.
Fundamentals will be the focus, and time away may help get a clean-ish restart.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:31 PM (p+X/W)
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Some team mates went to Staccato Ranch on Friday. It's in Florence, TX. Heard it was an awesome place to shoot and you can join now for only $300/month and the initiation fee is waved.
I've seen Florence, used to live in Georgetown. I would have thought you could buy the whole town for $300/month.
I've seen Florence, used to live in Georgetown. I would have thought you could buy the whole town for $300/month.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 07:31 PM (/y8xj)
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So can bluing be touched up?
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:22 PM (fwDg9)
Supposedly yes (called "cold bluing"), but it's not really meant to make a vintage firearm with bluing from 100 years ago look like new again. It's supposed to work better on post-WWII bluing which is much darker and more blackish than the pre-WWII finishes. It may not last that long depending on your treatment/use of the firearm. YMMV.
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:22 PM (fwDg9)
Supposedly yes (called "cold bluing"), but it's not really meant to make a vintage firearm with bluing from 100 years ago look like new again. It's supposed to work better on post-WWII bluing which is much darker and more blackish than the pre-WWII finishes. It may not last that long depending on your treatment/use of the firearm. YMMV.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 07:31 PM (yRXSd)
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I received two thousand rounds of 9mm this week, 1k in frangible for competition, 1k fmj for range shooting.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:33 PM (IFNME)
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Diogenes/rhomboid - apologies to you both. Fixed it.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:35 PM (JwHpX)
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I've seen Florence, used to live in Georgetown. I would have thought you could buy the whole town for $300/month.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 07:31 PM
Things have changed. Staccato is growing like gangbusters.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 07:31 PM
Things have changed. Staccato is growing like gangbusters.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:36 PM (wpInm)
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Blaster, how much and where?
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:37 PM (HDGM5)
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Rice in your rear rest pad?
Watch sizes >= 43 mm?
Meals that take more than 2 minutes from prep to consummation?
Asking for Gun Thread Commentators.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (wpInm)
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No x3.
Watch sizes >= 43 mm?
Meals that take more than 2 minutes from prep to consummation?
Asking for Gun Thread Commentators.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:29 PM (wpInm)
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No x3.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:37 PM (JwHpX)
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Whatever is below a non-issue, this is an example, Weasel, no problem. Heck, you didn’t accidentally post busty l*****b porn or lock yourself out of the blog, so it won’t even go into your quarterly evaluation!
Diogenes I don’t use spellcheck but I do proofread a few times. And I always look forward to your reviews and comments from you and others. Some of you even have palates that can taste things!
Diogenes I don’t use spellcheck but I do proofread a few times. And I always look forward to your reviews and comments from you and others. Some of you even have palates that can taste things!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:37 PM (p+X/W)
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I took my P320 to the range Friday to zero. AGAIN.
Not sure why but this particular pistol does not agree with me so much. I can shoot it, but not really consistently. Oddly, I can shoot sra blaster's p320 well. I am not sure if the Wilson Combat grip module is working against me or not.
I took a Caldwell pistol bench rest and used a printed "infinte zero" target and zeroed it, umm, infinitely. It is a VERY good zero from the bench rest.
But freestanding, not so much.
*must be the gun*
Not sure why but this particular pistol does not agree with me so much. I can shoot it, but not really consistently. Oddly, I can shoot sra blaster's p320 well. I am not sure if the Wilson Combat grip module is working against me or not.
I took a Caldwell pistol bench rest and used a printed "infinte zero" target and zeroed it, umm, infinitely. It is a VERY good zero from the bench rest.
But freestanding, not so much.
*must be the gun*
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:38 PM (IFNME)
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Weasel just some strain a small area, don't want them to rust or deteriorate
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 07:38 PM (fwDg9)
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Food Thread is currently at 297. Gonna have to work harder this week than the last couple of weeks to keep Weasel out of a 0700 EDT Zoom call with Ace, folks.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2024 07:39 PM (wpInm)
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 16, 2024 07:39 PM (ZdexC)
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I’m on a Midway list. They had Winchester Match Large Rifle Primers last week.
Now, I have some.
Now, I have some.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:40 PM (HDGM5)
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I've got an ultrasonic cleaner. It cleans the heck out of car parts. I suppose it will do the same for gun parts. I use water and Simple Green. Any caveats on cleaning gun parts?
Posted by: fd at June 16, 2024 07:41 PM (vFG9F)
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Happy Father's Day all!
Posted by: Oooohm at June 16, 2024 07:41 PM (C7Yya)
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Thanks for the nuke test video Weasel. My all-time favorite was Castle Bravo, arguably the biggest “oops!” in history.
Just imagine the staff meeting and review after that sucker.
“OK, which of you jokers told us Li-6 was inert?”
Just imagine the staff meeting and review after that sucker.
“OK, which of you jokers told us Li-6 was inert?”
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:41 PM (p+X/W)
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Did you get the 22WMR cylindar too?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:19 PM (cOq4q)
No, you have to order that separately. However... right now you can order a second cylinder FREE if you bought the revolver recently. I think it runs 'till mid- or late-July. There may also be a rebate. (Heritage is owned by Taurus, it seems.)
So, yeah, it's on my to-do list.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:19 PM (cOq4q)
No, you have to order that separately. However... right now you can order a second cylinder FREE if you bought the revolver recently. I think it runs 'till mid- or late-July. There may also be a rebate. (Heritage is owned by Taurus, it seems.)
So, yeah, it's on my to-do list.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 07:42 PM (AWrpC)
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fd, I put parts in a plastic baggie with the cleaner (CLR), then submerge it in water. Doesn’t score the cleaner and concentrates the concentrate.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:43 PM (HDGM5)
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Hi weasel!
For me, the best training for trigger pull is with my double action S&W .357 revolver shooting .357. The kick is not to be ignored, so I have to concentrate really hard on pulling straight back, smoothly and grip solid. I have to keep my shoulders down and wrist locked. After several rounds, focusing ONLY on trigger pull, my Ronin is a cakewalk. Whenever I find myself wanting to flinch, I can pull up the muscle memory of the hard, long pull of the revolver and I can usually make the flinch go away.
For me, the best training for trigger pull is with my double action S&W .357 revolver shooting .357. The kick is not to be ignored, so I have to concentrate really hard on pulling straight back, smoothly and grip solid. I have to keep my shoulders down and wrist locked. After several rounds, focusing ONLY on trigger pull, my Ronin is a cakewalk. Whenever I find myself wanting to flinch, I can pull up the muscle memory of the hard, long pull of the revolver and I can usually make the flinch go away.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 07:44 PM (TLhHb)
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Good idea RI Red.
Posted by: fd at June 16, 2024 07:44 PM (vFG9F)
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Not a lot to contribute tonight. Just sitting back with my father's day gift (I'm a puppy dad), a Nording half bent pipe loaded with some good burley flake tobacco while perusing the thread. Life is good.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 07:44 PM (zudum)
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Am thinking about a golf ball mortar, though. Anybody have anything to report on those?
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Go bowling ball mortar.
Some of those on utube.
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Go bowling ball mortar.
Some of those on utube.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:45 PM (cOq4q)
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Nurse, I have an important question. Do you brush your hair before shooting .357?
Or do anything else?
Or do anything else?
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:46 PM (HDGM5)
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On the way back from Ft. Bragg this week, I stopped at the farm for a few days and got in some range time. I concentrated mainly on a consistent trigger press and trying to maintain a consistently solid grip with my support hand. Danged arthritis in the hand makes that a problem for me.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 16, 2024 07:47 PM (9y1VL)
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52 Blaster, how much and where?
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:37 PM (HDGM5)
The frangible I got for a really good price - Southern Defense had Norma MLE 94 grain frangible for 22.5c a round which is about half what I paid for the last frangible I got which was Remington 100 grain even with the $50 shipping.
I said FMJ but actually its a polymer (Hi-Tek) coated reman from Southern Munitions (which is different from Southern Defense) and it was $177 for 2 cases of 500 but 80 shipping and tax. The brass looks brand new and the stamps all match so I can't tell its reman.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:37 PM (HDGM5)
The frangible I got for a really good price - Southern Defense had Norma MLE 94 grain frangible for 22.5c a round which is about half what I paid for the last frangible I got which was Remington 100 grain even with the $50 shipping.
I said FMJ but actually its a polymer (Hi-Tek) coated reman from Southern Munitions (which is different from Southern Defense) and it was $177 for 2 cases of 500 but 80 shipping and tax. The brass looks brand new and the stamps all match so I can't tell its reman.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)
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Sounds great JTB! I broke out my vintage Turkish meerschaum and burned some aromatic a while back. An even more mellow ritual than a cigar.
If I was prone to such I’d probably even think and be contemplative and stuff.
If I was prone to such I’d probably even think and be contemplative and stuff.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:48 PM (p+X/W)
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Red,
You're not sponge.
You're not sponge.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 07:49 PM (TLhHb)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 07:44 PM (TLhHb)
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Keep up the good work! The flinch reflex can be mostly mastered it just takes a lot of focused will power. Once you stop thinking about it, it can sneak back in at the least opportune time.
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Keep up the good work! The flinch reflex can be mostly mastered it just takes a lot of focused will power. Once you stop thinking about it, it can sneak back in at the least opportune time.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:49 PM (JwHpX)
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Buy Ammo? Have had great experiences with Southern Munitions dot com. Nice site. Good guys and good inventory. Atlanta warehouse. Plus, unlike others on our list, they ship to California. My curious ffl works great. Add to list!
Posted by: scottst at June 16, 2024 07:50 PM (yjKqP)
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The brass looks brand new and the stamps all match so I can't tell its reman.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)
We'll see how it shoots. The polymer coating was advertised as green I was expecting a bright glossy green kind of like the Federal Syntech but no - it looks kinda like an avocado. A dark green mottled with black.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)
We'll see how it shoots. The polymer coating was advertised as green I was expecting a bright glossy green kind of like the Federal Syntech but no - it looks kinda like an avocado. A dark green mottled with black.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:50 PM (IFNME)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:51 PM (PZo5T)
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Nurse my old warm up routine was to carefully fire a few cylinders of .22LR from my Ruger Single Six, focusing on straight trigger pull and breathing.
Double-action even more demanding, a good idea.
Double-action even more demanding, a good idea.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:52 PM (p+X/W)
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blaster, et al.: I think we are in another of those periods when you can get ammo for a somewhat reasonable price. I don’t think we will be in it for long, especially with the news about powder shortages for the “war(s) effort”.
As our host is wont to say, “Buy ammo.”
As our host is wont to say, “Buy ammo.”
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:52 PM (HDGM5)
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16 ... "I bought myself a Heritage Rough Rider .22 revolver this week. "
Hope you enjoy that Rough Rider. They aren't built like a Ruger Single-Six but are certainly decent revolvers and cost a fraction of the Ruger's price. A good value and as good as anything to practice the fundamentals. The basic sights force you to concentrate on grip and sight picture. And any single action is fun.
Hope you enjoy that Rough Rider. They aren't built like a Ruger Single-Six but are certainly decent revolvers and cost a fraction of the Ruger's price. A good value and as good as anything to practice the fundamentals. The basic sights force you to concentrate on grip and sight picture. And any single action is fun.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 07:55 PM (zudum)
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Yes
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:51 PM (PZo5T)
Nice. The DMV home range partners with an upscale range down the road. 2-3x the monthly charges for membership there.
I can see why they do it though - the facility is nicer though not 2-3x nicer. It's too keep out the riff-raff (like us because we go to the cheaper one). Our home range is seeing lots more shooters and that leads to wait times and other crowding issues.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:51 PM (PZo5T)
Nice. The DMV home range partners with an upscale range down the road. 2-3x the monthly charges for membership there.
I can see why they do it though - the facility is nicer though not 2-3x nicer. It's too keep out the riff-raff (like us because we go to the cheaper one). Our home range is seeing lots more shooters and that leads to wait times and other crowding issues.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:55 PM (IFNME)
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Red,
Dude. I've met Ms Red. You better behave yourself.
Dude. I've met Ms Red. You better behave yourself.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 07:55 PM (TLhHb)
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Did a quick search and found this video from Midway on nitre blueing parts
https://tinyurl.com/Nitre-blueing
Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there in Hordeland and Moronville!
https://tinyurl.com/Nitre-blueing
Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there in Hordeland and Moronville!
Posted by: 10 Gallon Hat at June 16, 2024 07:56 PM (Tjndb)
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Am thinking about a golf ball mortar, though. Anybody have anything to report on those?
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Friend of mine had his son give him the soda can/tennis ball launcher for the AR15.
He's also my Doc so after my physical last year we went out back and launched a few over the back of his property.
Worked quite well.
https://tinyurl.com/4nwjz8z6
Posted by: Mr Gaga
Friend of mine had his son give him the soda can/tennis ball launcher for the AR15.
He's also my Doc so after my physical last year we went out back and launched a few over the back of his property.
Worked quite well.
https://tinyurl.com/4nwjz8z6
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2024 07:57 PM (R/m4+)
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I did the freezer bag trick too. I was told to use the purple simple green at 1 pt simple green and 3 parts water. Other people on the team said that the green simple green is too strong for the polymer guns. All I know is after taking the gun out and rinsing it well, I used an air compressor to make sure it was completely dry then sprayed it with the Breakthrough all in one and wiped it down. There wasn't any black on the white cloth. That usually only happens with brand new guns.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 07:57 PM (PZo5T)
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Red, you may notice the comment is gone.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:57 PM (JwHpX)
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RI Red, everybody’s consumption rates and needs vary, but I think my procurement of components after the 2013 panic has worked out well. I laid in a healthy reserve of factory ammo even before that, mostly to pre-empt expected new idiotic CA laws. Surprise!! That was a rare good call.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (p+X/W)
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I think we are in another of those periods when you can get ammo for a somewhat reasonable price. I don’t think we will be in it for long, especially with the news about powder shortages for the “war(s) effort”.
As our host is wont to say, “Buy ammo.”
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:52 PM (HDGM5)
Hard to say. I remember when May the prices were supposed go up across the board and I wasn't in a position to stock up and thought oh well I will pay the price. And here it is June and ammo prices are...not terrible. I think the way to approach is just always buy ammo and do dollar cost averaging....
As our host is wont to say, “Buy ammo.”
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:52 PM (HDGM5)
Hard to say. I remember when May the prices were supposed go up across the board and I wasn't in a position to stock up and thought oh well I will pay the price. And here it is June and ammo prices are...not terrible. I think the way to approach is just always buy ammo and do dollar cost averaging....
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (IFNME)
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Since it's Father's Day -
Visited the folks a couple weeks ago and Dad gave me his dad's S&W 38. It was from Granddads in the local mounted police.
Side of the 6-1/2" barrel reads, "S&W Special US Service CTG'S".
Quick internet search suggests it may be of 1905 vintage. Could be given the last patent date liisted on top of the barrel is DEC 17, 01.
Granddad must have got it used because he was not that old.
Visited the folks a couple weeks ago and Dad gave me his dad's S&W 38. It was from Granddads in the local mounted police.
Side of the 6-1/2" barrel reads, "S&W Special US Service CTG'S".
Quick internet search suggests it may be of 1905 vintage. Could be given the last patent date liisted on top of the barrel is DEC 17, 01.
Granddad must have got it used because he was not that old.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (cOq4q)
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Thank you, Nurse. Sometimes I forget I’m no longer 29. Hope to see you in TX!
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (HDGM5)
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BTW, Nurse, we celebrated one half century yesterday.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:59 PM (HDGM5)
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Side of the 6-1/2" barrel reads, "S&W Special US Service CTG'S".
Quick internet search suggests it may be of 1905 vintage. Could be given the last patent date liisted on top of the barrel is DEC 17, 01.
Granddad must have got it used because he was not that old.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (cOq4q)
Paging Ed L. Ed L. to the white courtesy phone please.
Ed. L.
Quick internet search suggests it may be of 1905 vintage. Could be given the last patent date liisted on top of the barrel is DEC 17, 01.
Granddad must have got it used because he was not that old.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (cOq4q)
Paging Ed L. Ed L. to the white courtesy phone please.
Ed. L.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:00 PM (IFNME)
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Rhomboid I miss your pithy analysis and commentary on international events on the daywalker threads
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2024 08:00 PM (RIvkX)
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72 ... "I broke out my vintage Turkish meerschaum and burned some aromatic a while back. An even more mellow ritual than a cigar.
If I was prone to such I’d probably even think and be contemplative and stuff."
Had to laugh at the "contemplative and stuff". Be careful if you ever get a churchwarden style. They are even more likely to lead to contemplation. Very dangerous.
If I was prone to such I’d probably even think and be contemplative and stuff."
Had to laugh at the "contemplative and stuff". Be careful if you ever get a churchwarden style. They are even more likely to lead to contemplation. Very dangerous.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 08:01 PM (zudum)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:02 PM (TLhHb)
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WeaselMaster, your humble servant is grateful.
So, are you extending the pine tree range out a bit, like a thousand yards?
So, are you extending the pine tree range out a bit, like a thousand yards?
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:03 PM (HDGM5)
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For those who asked, my ancestor was in the PA 142nd infantry. They were engaged on day one and there is a monument there. That's the easy part. They moved behind cemetery ridge but there is no signage there. We were trying to triangulate with maps and other unit markers. Think we got a good guess. They were in sight of the bloody angle but likely not on the front line.
Also found the Buford monument and first canon shot by the union at Gettysburg.
Also found the Buford monument and first canon shot by the union at Gettysburg.
Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 08:04 PM (IQ6Gq)
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San Franpsycho, you are far too kind. No simple explanation, but in general one might say I am largely left speechless any more.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 08:04 PM (p+X/W)
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Range time is up considerably since I introduced a couple of church brothers to my range on the timber property across the road. We've been shooting most Mondays. One of the brothers brought his grandson out a couple weeks ago. He's an ex Marine . He asked me if he could bring some friends out. I told him it's not my property, I just put up some targets. He brought 3 friends out this week and they invited me to shoot with them . All ex Marines. Those young men could shoot. The 250 yard target is an 8 inch piece of steel. They gave that thing a workout.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:05 PM (T38aJ)
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Less than a month until we head up to Ohio with the spawn for her nationals competition....
Hoping that Lady L and Snorfflepuppy stop by to watch for a bit once I know the schedule.
Hoping that Lady L and Snorfflepuppy stop by to watch for a bit once I know the schedule.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2024 08:05 PM (PZo5T)
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Skip, oxopho blue from Brownells or Amazon is one of the better cold blues.
Cold blueing is actually staining the steel rather than inducing a rust cycle. Birchwood has a kind of sulfur stink, oxopho has little odor as it is based on selenium. Neither work well if you have applied silicone product to the surfaces in the past as then you get swirls if color reminiscent of case hardening.
Best applied to ordinary carbon steel and cold blue can be unpredictable with alloys.
Apply exactly as label says and a quick heating with a hair dryer or heatgun of surface can help process.
Cold blueing is actually staining the steel rather than inducing a rust cycle. Birchwood has a kind of sulfur stink, oxopho has little odor as it is based on selenium. Neither work well if you have applied silicone product to the surfaces in the past as then you get swirls if color reminiscent of case hardening.
Best applied to ordinary carbon steel and cold blue can be unpredictable with alloys.
Apply exactly as label says and a quick heating with a hair dryer or heatgun of surface can help process.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2024 08:05 PM (/0X3E)
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Thanks 10 Gallon Hat, that would be helpful, will look into it
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 08:08 PM (fwDg9)
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Have a great evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 08:08 PM (fwDg9)
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 07:58 PM (cOq4q)
Do you have any .38 Special snap caps? They're the easiest way to determine if the revolver is chambered in .38 Special. The fact that the revolver is marked as a "S&W Special" indicates that the revolver is indeed chambered in .38 Special. .38 Special was introduced in 1898. So it's definitely possible that a 1905 revolver was chambered in .38 Special.
Take a look at my gun thread submission from a few months back about my S&W Model 1899. See what similarities and differences there are between your example and mine. My example is chambered in .38 S&W, a shorter and less powerful ancestor of .38 Special.
Do you have any .38 Special snap caps? They're the easiest way to determine if the revolver is chambered in .38 Special. The fact that the revolver is marked as a "S&W Special" indicates that the revolver is indeed chambered in .38 Special. .38 Special was introduced in 1898. So it's definitely possible that a 1905 revolver was chambered in .38 Special.
Take a look at my gun thread submission from a few months back about my S&W Model 1899. See what similarities and differences there are between your example and mine. My example is chambered in .38 S&W, a shorter and less powerful ancestor of .38 Special.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:09 PM (yRXSd)
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BTW, Nurse, we celebrated one half century yesterday.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:59 PM
Congrats, Red!
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 07:59 PM
Congrats, Red!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:09 PM (v3isc)
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Rhomboid and nurse have good practice for trigger work. Double action revolvers require full follow through with no catching the link or other tricks in order to reset.
A caveat though is that in double action, rimfire revolvers have stiffer trigger pulls than center-fire cartridges.
A caveat though is that in double action, rimfire revolvers have stiffer trigger pulls than center-fire cartridges.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM (/0X3E)
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Good evening everyone and Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers. Thanks to you Weasel, as always
Posted by: Coelacanth at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM (fZVi0)
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At last week's fantastic NoVaMoMe, I won as a raffle prize the book The Beautiful Poetry of Donald Trump. It contains this piece of verse among others:
We are going to have to get rid of them
Weasels are hard to get rid of
They don't wear uniforms. They're sneaky, dirty rats.
It's been 18 months of brutality in a true sense
But we won
Trump Grill just received the highest sanitation inspection grade possible
If only we had known.
We are going to have to get rid of them
Weasels are hard to get rid of
They don't wear uniforms. They're sneaky, dirty rats.
It's been 18 months of brutality in a true sense
But we won
Trump Grill just received the highest sanitation inspection grade possible
If only we had known.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM (IFNME)
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Thx, RMBS. See you at the diner, soon.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM (HDGM5)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 08:11 PM (JwHpX)
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A report on the weapon....
I loaded it with Tipton snap caps (they're plastic) and went through the cylinder.
All snap caps now have a dent in the rim! (Consistently in one spot, so that's good.) I may have to see if they have metal snap caps in .22LR. (There is a Caution in the manual about dry-firing. It assumes no snap cap.)
I loaded it with Tipton snap caps (they're plastic) and went through the cylinder.
All snap caps now have a dent in the rim! (Consistently in one spot, so that's good.) I may have to see if they have metal snap caps in .22LR. (There is a Caution in the manual about dry-firing. It assumes no snap cap.)
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 08:11 PM (AWrpC)
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He's an ex Marine . He asked me if he could bring some friends out. I told him it's not my property, I just put up some targets. He brought 3 friends out this week and they invited me to shoot with them . All ex Marines. Those young men could shoot. The 250 yard target is an 8 inch piece of steel. They gave that thing a workout.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:05 PM (T38aJ)
Pro Tip: Never use "Ex" Marine. Marine, Retired Marine or Prior Active Duty Marine will suffice.
"Ex" is bad JuJu.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:05 PM (T38aJ)
Pro Tip: Never use "Ex" Marine. Marine, Retired Marine or Prior Active Duty Marine will suffice.
"Ex" is bad JuJu.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (R/m4+)
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Btw,
Has anyone else become more concerned about carrying these days? With things getting more and more volatile and increasing instances of larger groups of people attacking at random, I've been more inclined to avoid crowds and just be more aware of my surroundings. If a feral crowd sees a gun, they can go insane. And I can only carry so much ammo.
Has anyone else become more concerned about carrying these days? With things getting more and more volatile and increasing instances of larger groups of people attacking at random, I've been more inclined to avoid crowds and just be more aware of my surroundings. If a feral crowd sees a gun, they can go insane. And I can only carry so much ammo.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
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Gettysburg is such a great destination. WW and I used to go frequently and stay in what we found out was a HAUNTED house. If you people are nice and remind me I might tell our ghost story in the Halloween Gun Thread.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM
Would be interested. I'm thinking of doing a Gettysburg trip next year if I can manage it.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM
Would be interested. I'm thinking of doing a Gettysburg trip next year if I can manage it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (v3isc)
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Thx, RMBS. See you at the diner, soon.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM
See you guys at the place for the thing!
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:10 PM
See you guys at the place for the thing!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:14 PM (v3isc)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:14 PM (T38aJ)
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Nurse, I asked weasel about attending a certain demonstration a few years back.
His advice? “Avoid crowds.”
Still holds today…
His advice? “Avoid crowds.”
Still holds today…
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:15 PM (HDGM5)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
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I included a couple of vids a month or so ago on mobs surrounding cars and how situational awareness is key. Don't go to places where bad people congregate. Keep your head on a swivel at all times. Always have an escape route, and if anything looks bad, head in the opposite direction.
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I included a couple of vids a month or so ago on mobs surrounding cars and how situational awareness is key. Don't go to places where bad people congregate. Keep your head on a swivel at all times. Always have an escape route, and if anything looks bad, head in the opposite direction.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 08:16 PM (JwHpX)
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If a feral crowd sees a gun, they can go insane. And I can only carry so much ammo.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
Remember that your pistol is to either escape the situation or to get to a bigger gun. It's fortunate that in most encounters, "escaping the situation" can be done by shooting one guy a few times (or even just showing him your gun). But the option to "didi mao" - get out of there - should always be part of your analysis of the situation.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
Remember that your pistol is to either escape the situation or to get to a bigger gun. It's fortunate that in most encounters, "escaping the situation" can be done by shooting one guy a few times (or even just showing him your gun). But the option to "didi mao" - get out of there - should always be part of your analysis of the situation.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 08:17 PM (AWrpC)
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Gwb, stick with plastic snap caps for rimfire revolvers. The metal ones deform too quick. In a pinch, you can use plastic wall anchors, either a #6 or 8, I forget, as ersatz 22 rimfire snap caps. The Tipton's though last a pretty long time.
The reason most rimfire firearms don't allow dryfiring without them is you risk chipping the case hardened rimfire hammer tip or you burr the outside of the softer barrel metal at the mouth of the chamber making loading and extraction difficult.
The reason most rimfire firearms don't allow dryfiring without them is you risk chipping the case hardened rimfire hammer tip or you burr the outside of the softer barrel metal at the mouth of the chamber making loading and extraction difficult.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2024 08:18 PM (/0X3E)
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BTW, that is not advice to not carry. It’s advice to not be in a situation where your carry will be outnumbered.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:18 PM (HDGM5)
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Sunday Gun day! Just a drive by to wish all the Moron Dads, Pops, Granddads and Great-grandpas (not sure this is possible for 29 year olds!) a happy Father's Day! Hugs to those who are missing dads or kids today.
And big congrats to RI Red & Mrs Red!!!
Yet again I'm out of a range habit and not sure when I can pick back up. Not even dry firing at home.
And big congrats to RI Red & Mrs Red!!!
Yet again I'm out of a range habit and not sure when I can pick back up. Not even dry firing at home.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 16, 2024 08:18 PM (iZbyp)
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What RI Red and Weasel said (naturally). I’ve never been very phobic about crowds, but these days, certainly not crazy about the idea. Exception: crowds in Japan.
Would love to go to a baseball game there again. Best moment: teams on the baselines bowing to the crowd at game end.
Would love to go to a baseball game there again. Best moment: teams on the baselines bowing to the crowd at game end.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 08:20 PM (p+X/W)
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Not even dry firing at home.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 16, 2024 08:18 PM (iZbyp)
Well, that's easily solved by doing it while you read the Gun Thread!
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 16, 2024 08:18 PM (iZbyp)
Well, that's easily solved by doing it while you read the Gun Thread!
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 08:20 PM (AWrpC)
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I've been more inclined to avoid crowds and just be more aware of my surroundings. If a feral crowd sees a gun, they can go insane. And I can only carry so much ammo.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
Concur. Situational Awareness is your friend. Use it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (TLhHb)
Concur. Situational Awareness is your friend. Use it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2024 08:21 PM (R/m4+)
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Gavin deBecker, the Gift of Fear Nas quite a bit about situational awareness as does Rory Miller of monkey dance fame.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2024 08:22 PM (/0X3E)
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Would love to go to a baseball game there again. Best moment: teams on the baselines bowing to the crowd at game end.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 08:20 PM (p+X/W)
Loved a video I saw (I think linked here at Ace) of some softball game or minor league game. They announced they wouldn't be playing the national anthem and to play ball, and the teams run back to the dugouts.
And then the crowd starts singing the anthem. Totally a capella. One team runs back out to the first base line to stand during it. It was inspiring.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 08:20 PM (p+X/W)
Loved a video I saw (I think linked here at Ace) of some softball game or minor league game. They announced they wouldn't be playing the national anthem and to play ball, and the teams run back to the dugouts.
And then the crowd starts singing the anthem. Totally a capella. One team runs back out to the first base line to stand during it. It was inspiring.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 08:23 PM (AWrpC)
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Happy Father's Day to all of the gun nuts!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 16, 2024 08:23 PM (HlyYF)
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GWB, I'm currently enjoying sunset swing time (after a bunch of yard work in the heat) and do not wish to alarm the neighbors! Also I've had a cider....
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 16, 2024 08:24 PM (iZbyp)
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Do you have any .38 Special snap caps? They're the easiest way to determine if the revolver is chambered in .38 Special. The fact that the revolver is marked as a "S&W Special" indicates that the revolver is indeed chambered in .38 Special. .38 Special was introduced in 1898. So it's definitely possible that a 1905 revolver was chambered in .38 Special.
Take a look at my gun thread submission from a few months back about my S&W Model 1899. See what similarities and differences there are between your example and mine. My example is chambered in .38 S&W, a shorter and less powerful ancestor of .38 Special.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:09 PM (yRXSd)
The barrel is definitely labeled
1st Line - 38 S. & W. SPECIAL
2nd Line - & U. S. SERVICE CTG'S
Some of the S&W forums indicate that the service cartridges referenced were the then in service 38 Long Colt, which S&W didn't want to name by name.
Did your older post talk about screws?
This one has three screws holding the sidieplate plus the one bottom front of trigger guard.
Take a look at my gun thread submission from a few months back about my S&W Model 1899. See what similarities and differences there are between your example and mine. My example is chambered in .38 S&W, a shorter and less powerful ancestor of .38 Special.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:09 PM (yRXSd)
The barrel is definitely labeled
1st Line - 38 S. & W. SPECIAL
2nd Line - & U. S. SERVICE CTG'S
Some of the S&W forums indicate that the service cartridges referenced were the then in service 38 Long Colt, which S&W didn't want to name by name.
Did your older post talk about screws?
This one has three screws holding the sidieplate plus the one bottom front of trigger guard.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 08:24 PM (cOq4q)
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Thanks for the gub thread, Weasel.
Congrats, RI Red.
Congrats, RI Red.
Posted by: scampydog at June 16, 2024 08:25 PM (xsTaH)
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As the topic comes up frequently, I have not been able to find large rifle primers for sale ANYWHERE. Midway, Midsouth, Natchez, Cabela's, and any other sites I could think of. Got tired of seeing 'out of stock' under each item. Other sizes of primers are in stock, just not LRP.
If you are a reloader and need certain components, jump on them when available. Same with powders.
Or learn to appreciate flintlocks.
If you are a reloader and need certain components, jump on them when available. Same with powders.
Or learn to appreciate flintlocks.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 08:25 PM (zudum)
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ESPN Sunday Night Baseball can only be watched with the volume muted to make it even barely tolerable. It's like the game is a sideshow to the dugout interviews, booth guests, miced-up fielders, Buster Frickin' Olney and the five or six announcers all jabbering. The game itself is shoved into a separate little box to accommodate more talk, talk, talk. Dreadful.
ESPN Sunday Night Baseball can only be watched with the volume muted to make it even barely tolerable. It's like the game is a sideshow to the dugout interviews, booth guests, miced-up fielders, Buster Frickin' Olney and the five or six announcers all jabbering. The game itself is shoved into a separate little box to accommodate more talk, talk, talk. Dreadful.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2024 08:26 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 16, 2024 08:27 PM (t/2Uw)
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Have a good night y'all.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2024 08:27 PM (/0X3E)
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Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 08:04 PM (IQ6Gq)
From my copy of "Battles and Leaders of the Civil War, Vol. 3," it appears that the 142nd PA had a bit of a rough time on the first day. Their brigade CO was wounded. The regiment's CO was killed, and they probably were roughly handled in the final Southern attacks on the first day. Because of that, they almost certainly spent the rest of the battle in reserve.
From my copy of "Battles and Leaders of the Civil War, Vol. 3," it appears that the 142nd PA had a bit of a rough time on the first day. Their brigade CO was wounded. The regiment's CO was killed, and they probably were roughly handled in the final Southern attacks on the first day. Because of that, they almost certainly spent the rest of the battle in reserve.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:27 PM (yRXSd)
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JTB, get on a notice list. When that Midway text came in, I barely looked at the price.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:29 PM (HDGM5)
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If a feral crowd sees a gun, they can go insane. And I can only carry so much ammo.
Posted by: nurse ratched
I rarely open carry these days. Prefered holster is my shoulder with 2 spare mags. I generally wear a shirt over it. I did get some asnine comments from a couple behind me in line awhile back. He started asking me if carrying a gun made me feel like a big man. I turned around and told him apparently you're expecting a debate but I don't give a rats ass about what you think and turned back around. Guy behind him laughed. He kept his mouth shut. As far as the feral crowd goes, that's why you always practice opsec. Your associates is spot on.
Posted by: nurse ratched
I rarely open carry these days. Prefered holster is my shoulder with 2 spare mags. I generally wear a shirt over it. I did get some asnine comments from a couple behind me in line awhile back. He started asking me if carrying a gun made me feel like a big man. I turned around and told him apparently you're expecting a debate but I don't give a rats ass about what you think and turned back around. Guy behind him laughed. He kept his mouth shut. As far as the feral crowd goes, that's why you always practice opsec. Your associates is spot on.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:30 PM (T38aJ)
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Thanks Ed. That lines up.
Posted by: TRex at June 16, 2024 08:31 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Assessment. I need to figure out how to turn it off. I make plenty of mistakes but auto cucumber is a different level of stupid.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:32 PM (T38aJ)
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My dad was a city kid. Only fired a rifle while in the Army. At paper and metal targets and Japs in the Philippines.
I miss my hero dad.
If your dad is still around, give a hug from me.
I miss my hero dad.
If your dad is still around, give a hug from me.
Posted by: jimmymcnulty at June 16, 2024 08:34 PM (6Qw2E)
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137 ... "JTB, get on a notice list."
RI Red,
Good general advice for us all. I don't happen to need any components but only because I learned my lesson during the previous shortages and stocked up when I could.
RI Red,
Good general advice for us all. I don't happen to need any components but only because I learned my lesson during the previous shortages and stocked up when I could.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 08:34 PM (zudum)
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Nurse, SiD, and others, thanks. It was great getting married in 5 th grade. Family arrangements, ya know.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:35 PM (HDGM5)
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There's a truism in the cigar industry that each handmade cigar reaching the consumer has been touched by 300 hands.
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 08:35 PM (fPzjs)
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Would be interested. I'm thinking of doing a Gettysburg trip next year if I can manage it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (v3isc)
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I have not been to Gettysburg, but I highly recommend Antietam. Military history isn't really my primary interest but that place grabbed me.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (v3isc)
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I have not been to Gettysburg, but I highly recommend Antietam. Military history isn't really my primary interest but that place grabbed me.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 16, 2024 08:37 PM (iZbyp)
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As the topic comes up frequently, I have not been able to find large rifle primers for sale ANYWHERE. Midway, Midsouth, Natchez, Cabela's, and any other sites I could think of. Got tired of seeing 'out of stock' under each item. Other sizes of primers are in stock, just not LRP.
If you are a reloader and need certain components, jump on them when available. Same with powders.
Or learn to appreciate flintlocks.
Posted by: JTB
Ammoseek is pretty good for reloading componants,
But, last I knew they did not crawl Nantchez, Powder Valley, and couple other good online venders. Best to keep them bookmarked seperately.
If you are a reloader and need certain components, jump on them when available. Same with powders.
Or learn to appreciate flintlocks.
Posted by: JTB
Ammoseek is pretty good for reloading componants,
But, last I knew they did not crawl Nantchez, Powder Valley, and couple other good online venders. Best to keep them bookmarked seperately.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 08:38 PM (cOq4q)
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Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 08:24 PM (cOq4q)
.38 Long Colt was indeed the standard US military service handgun cartridge at the time. But because .38 Long Colt used a "straight through" boring for the cylinder (see my post about the Model 1901 New Model Army revolver), and didn't have "shoulders" like modern revolver cylinders have today, it could also chamber .38 S&W, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum. .357 Magnum pressures will destroy any .38 Long Colt revolver in one shot, so DON'T load .357 into any .38 Long Colt revolver.
Look down the cylinder from the rear. The "shoulders" should be visible as a circle in the chamber. If you can't see them, try loading a .357 Magnum snap cap in the cylinder. If the "shoulder" is there, you should not be able to close the cylinder when you try to load it with .357 Magnums.
.38 Long Colt was indeed the standard US military service handgun cartridge at the time. But because .38 Long Colt used a "straight through" boring for the cylinder (see my post about the Model 1901 New Model Army revolver), and didn't have "shoulders" like modern revolver cylinders have today, it could also chamber .38 S&W, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum. .357 Magnum pressures will destroy any .38 Long Colt revolver in one shot, so DON'T load .357 into any .38 Long Colt revolver.
Look down the cylinder from the rear. The "shoulders" should be visible as a circle in the chamber. If you can't see them, try loading a .357 Magnum snap cap in the cylinder. If the "shoulder" is there, you should not be able to close the cylinder when you try to load it with .357 Magnums.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:39 PM (yRXSd)
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SiD, we did BullRun a couple of years ago during a MoMe.Well worth it.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:39 PM (HDGM5)
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Japs in the Philippines.
My uncle fought in the campaign to retake the Philippines. Army Ranger.
My uncle fought in the campaign to retake the Philippines. Army Ranger.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:40 PM (T38aJ)
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I have had a little extra education on Gettysburg but recommend the following:
1. Before you go, see the Turner Gettysburg miniseries. Really helps you get the timeline.
2. Go in the summer. You can appreciate standing in the treeline in wool looking across to the Angle and the Copse of Trees.
1. Before you go, see the Turner Gettysburg miniseries. Really helps you get the timeline.
2. Go in the summer. You can appreciate standing in the treeline in wool looking across to the Angle and the Copse of Trees.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:41 PM (IFNME)
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Another caution. 22LR ammo is plentiful right now. (The prices hurt but that's me and sticker shock.) But in previous shortages even 22 ammo was hard to find. I probably over bought after that last shortage but 22lr ammo never goes to waste.
The same applies to percussion caps for BP shooters.
The same applies to percussion caps for BP shooters.
Posted by: JTB at June 16, 2024 08:42 PM (zudum)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 08:13 PM (v3isc)
Don't forget about the Eisenhower Farm. It's at the south end of the battlefield opposite the Peach Orchard and Round Tops. It's a different period of history, but one still worth your time.
Don't forget about the Eisenhower Farm. It's at the south end of the battlefield opposite the Peach Orchard and Round Tops. It's a different period of history, but one still worth your time.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:43 PM (yRXSd)
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He started asking me if carrying a gun made me feel like a big man.
My answer would be something like "On the contrary, I am old, fat, and slow. I carry a gun to protect myself from those who might otherwise try to hurt me because they are big men."
My answer would be something like "On the contrary, I am old, fat, and slow. I carry a gun to protect myself from those who might otherwise try to hurt me because they are big men."
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 08:44 PM (/y8xj)
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JTB that’s interesting that 22 hasn’t been so scarce during this panic cycle. I know one large manufacturer did add a major 22 line a few years back - maybe that’s helping?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2024 08:44 PM (p+X/W)
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The Civil War comments made me wonder why repeating rifles weren't more widely used, as the Spencer had already been designed in 1860. The answer seems to be bureaucratic resistance, a lack of tactics and fears that the logistical train would be overwhelmed by the additional ammunition.
The Civil War comments made me wonder why repeating rifles weren't more widely used, as the Spencer had already been designed in 1860. The answer seems to be bureaucratic resistance, a lack of tactics and fears that the logistical train would be overwhelmed by the additional ammunition.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2024 08:45 PM (MoZTd)
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After The Burning Times, .22 LR cartridges will make pretty good currency.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 08:45 PM (fPzjs)
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2. Go in the summer. You can appreciate standing in the treeline in wool looking across to the Angle and the Copse of Trees.
I've always marveled at how those soldiers survived a day in those uniforms, let alone dodging hailstorms of fire.
I've always marveled at how those soldiers survived a day in those uniforms, let alone dodging hailstorms of fire.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 16, 2024 08:46 PM (mH6SG)
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Look down the cylinder from the rear. The "shoulders" should be visible as a circle in the chamber. If you can't see them, try loading a .357 Magnum snap cap in the cylinder. If the "shoulder" is there, you should not be able to close the cylinder when you try to load it with .357 Magnums.
Posted by: Ed L
This one does have the shoulders in the cylindar.
I do have other 38s/357s but if/when I shoot this one it'll be mild LRN or wadcutters... even though Granddad used it his whole life and when my Dad gave it to me he dumped the five HPs into his palm before handing it to me.
Posted by: Ed L
This one does have the shoulders in the cylindar.
I do have other 38s/357s but if/when I shoot this one it'll be mild LRN or wadcutters... even though Granddad used it his whole life and when my Dad gave it to me he dumped the five HPs into his palm before handing it to me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 16, 2024 08:47 PM (cOq4q)
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There are 40 listings for large rifle primers at ammo seek starting at 8.5 cents.
Posted by: ck at June 16, 2024 08:48 PM (nMOLw)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:48 PM (T38aJ)
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 08:50 PM (/y8xj)
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Really late to the thread. The lovely Mrs Blake took me out for a nice meal.
Thanks again, Weasel, for the thread.
Thanks again, Weasel, for the thread.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 08:51 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:41 PM (IFNME)
During one of my visits to Gettysburg, I joined up with a park ranger for a walk across the battlefield from Seminary Ridge to the Emmitsburg Road in the footsteps of one of Pickett's brigades. It's a long walk in the open, completely exposed to the Union artillery on Cemetery Ridge and the Round Tops. With the massed infantry formations of the day, the Union artillery couldn't have missed even if they tried. After walking up to the Emmitsburg Road and back again, I think it's incredible that many of Pickett's men survived coming through all of that. If you fast forwarded to WWI w/ rapid fire howitzers and heavy MGs, no one would have survived that attack.
During one of my visits to Gettysburg, I joined up with a park ranger for a walk across the battlefield from Seminary Ridge to the Emmitsburg Road in the footsteps of one of Pickett's brigades. It's a long walk in the open, completely exposed to the Union artillery on Cemetery Ridge and the Round Tops. With the massed infantry formations of the day, the Union artillery couldn't have missed even if they tried. After walking up to the Emmitsburg Road and back again, I think it's incredible that many of Pickett's men survived coming through all of that. If you fast forwarded to WWI w/ rapid fire howitzers and heavy MGs, no one would have survived that attack.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:52 PM (yRXSd)
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OK, disassembly guy is pretty good. Not a bad voice. (Though, if it were an academic class, I would probably be snoozing.)
Only thing I would add is how to do an ambidextrous safety. It is a little tougher, as you have to fit both sides together as you push it in. But it's not bad.
Having proper tools really does help, but in this case, aside from the hammer, a Leatherman or similar tool can actually be used. (And, yes, you can use the Leatherman as a hammer, too; though I would cover it with something like a piece of leather so as not to mar things.)
Only thing I would add is how to do an ambidextrous safety. It is a little tougher, as you have to fit both sides together as you push it in. But it's not bad.
Having proper tools really does help, but in this case, aside from the hammer, a Leatherman or similar tool can actually be used. (And, yes, you can use the Leatherman as a hammer, too; though I would cover it with something like a piece of leather so as not to mar things.)
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 08:52 PM (AWrpC)
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Sock,
I think that's a great answer. Good for you!
I do carry to Mass. I also carry to the art walk and the farmers market and to the grocery store. But when I'm out on the beach I do not. Something about sand and guns. It's hard to cc in shorts and a tshirt and off body doesn't seem safe either.
And I am not allowed to have a weapon on campus. My walk from the waterfront to work can be dangerous. Back down the hill, not as bad since I'm usually with a couple other folks. And we know where the problem areas are and avoid them. I've also made the girls jaywalk with me to avoid persons on the sidewalk. I've given many of them pepper spray and lecture them on situational awareness.
I think that's a great answer. Good for you!
I do carry to Mass. I also carry to the art walk and the farmers market and to the grocery store. But when I'm out on the beach I do not. Something about sand and guns. It's hard to cc in shorts and a tshirt and off body doesn't seem safe either.
And I am not allowed to have a weapon on campus. My walk from the waterfront to work can be dangerous. Back down the hill, not as bad since I'm usually with a couple other folks. And we know where the problem areas are and avoid them. I've also made the girls jaywalk with me to avoid persons on the sidewalk. I've given many of them pepper spray and lecture them on situational awareness.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 08:53 PM (Fd5YO)
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even 22 ammo was hard to find.
My inventory purchases of 22lr over the last year have been exclusively CCI. Preferably the 1650 fps versions. It has been scarce as of late. Some of my 22s don't like some of the junk 22 I have in my inventory.
My inventory purchases of 22lr over the last year have been exclusively CCI. Preferably the 1650 fps versions. It has been scarce as of late. Some of my 22s don't like some of the junk 22 I have in my inventory.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:53 PM (T38aJ)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 08:51 PM (tT6L1)
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You bet, blake! Thanks for checking in!
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You bet, blake! Thanks for checking in!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 08:54 PM (JwHpX)
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There's a truism in the cigar industry that each handmade cigar reaching the consumer has been touched by 300 hands.
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
How many times have your vegetables been pooped on?
There's a truism in the cigar industry that each handmade cigar reaching the consumer has been touched by 300 hands.
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
How many times have your vegetables been pooped on?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2024 08:54 PM (63Dwl)
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fears that the logistical train would be overwhelmed by the additional ammunition.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2024 08:45 PM (MoZTd)
The M1903 Springfield bolt action rifle has a magazine cutoff lever, which converts the rifle to a singleshot, for this reason. Considering that, at that time, ammunition could only be moved from a rail car to the front line by horse drawn wagons, it was a good idea.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2024 08:45 PM (MoZTd)
The M1903 Springfield bolt action rifle has a magazine cutoff lever, which converts the rifle to a singleshot, for this reason. Considering that, at that time, ammunition could only be moved from a rail car to the front line by horse drawn wagons, it was a good idea.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 08:54 PM (fPzjs)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 16, 2024 08:59 PM (HlyYF)
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I've given many of them pepper spray and lecture them on situational awareness.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Sounds like you need a couple custom made Sock Monkey hillbilly thumpers. Made a couple for TCN awhile back when she was concerned about the asshat she worked with. 14 inch automotive fuel line hose filled with #7 bbs and plugged with wooden dowels. Folds in half, fits in a pocket. Very effective. Mishum has my email. Shoot me an email if you want a couple. Most of the people I have made them for are women. Just made a couple last week for a friend at church and her teenage daughter.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Sounds like you need a couple custom made Sock Monkey hillbilly thumpers. Made a couple for TCN awhile back when she was concerned about the asshat she worked with. 14 inch automotive fuel line hose filled with #7 bbs and plugged with wooden dowels. Folds in half, fits in a pocket. Very effective. Mishum has my email. Shoot me an email if you want a couple. Most of the people I have made them for are women. Just made a couple last week for a friend at church and her teenage daughter.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:00 PM (T38aJ)
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Oh hell! You have my email.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:01 PM (T38aJ)
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2. Go in the summer. You can appreciate standing in the treeline in wool looking across to the Angle and the Copse of Trees.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:41 PM (IFNME)
Once, when TDY to Turkey, we were staying off-base. So we had to drive ourselves into work to fly. Our in-brief included "Those guys out there wearing dark blue wool uniforms, in the Turkish summer heat, are conscripts, but their rifles have live ammo, and they are generally not in the best of moods. If one of them stops you on base, just shut up and do what they say. Wait for their commander to arrive, who will call us. DO NOT PISS THEM OFF."
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 08:41 PM (IFNME)
Once, when TDY to Turkey, we were staying off-base. So we had to drive ourselves into work to fly. Our in-brief included "Those guys out there wearing dark blue wool uniforms, in the Turkish summer heat, are conscripts, but their rifles have live ammo, and they are generally not in the best of moods. If one of them stops you on base, just shut up and do what they say. Wait for their commander to arrive, who will call us. DO NOT PISS THEM OFF."
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM (AWrpC)
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There's a truism in the cigar industry that each handmade cigar reaching the consumer has been touched by 300 hands.
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
How many times have your vegetables been pooped on?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
I've never heard of washing a cigar before you smoke it.
And you expect me to put one of those things in my mouth? Do I look like a Vice President or a Secretary of Transportation to you?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
How many times have your vegetables been pooped on?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
I've never heard of washing a cigar before you smoke it.
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM (DgGvY)
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Sock.
I think I may have your email from a ways back. I'll send one off in the morning when I can type on a proper keyboard.
Typing on phones stinks.
I think I may have your email from a ways back. I'll send one off in the morning when I can type on a proper keyboard.
Typing on phones stinks.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:03 PM (xZri3)
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And thank you for the offer. I am inclined to take you up on it, much appreciated!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:04 PM (xZri3)
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It was great getting married in 5 th grade. Family arrangements, ya know.
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:35 PM
Right? Of course, right!
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 08:35 PM
Right? Of course, right!
Posted by: Yenta at June 16, 2024 09:04 PM (v3isc)
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Don't forget about the Eisenhower Farm. It's at the south end of the battlefield opposite the Peach Orchard and Round Tops. It's a different period of history, but one still worth your time.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:43 PM
Thanks, Ed. Will add to my planning.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 08:43 PM
Thanks, Ed. Will add to my planning.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 09:05 PM (v3isc)
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He started asking me if carrying a gun made me feel like a big man.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:30 PM (T38aJ)
"No sir. I'm a 'big man' because of who my Lord is and how I act. But there are plenty of people who think they are 'big men' in this world who would use it to harm the innocent. And those people are often more capable in the personal force department than I. I carry so I am on equal footing with them when I have to stop them from hurting the innocent. Have a nice day."
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 08:30 PM (T38aJ)
"No sir. I'm a 'big man' because of who my Lord is and how I act. But there are plenty of people who think they are 'big men' in this world who would use it to harm the innocent. And those people are often more capable in the personal force department than I. I carry so I am on equal footing with them when I have to stop them from hurting the innocent. Have a nice day."
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:05 PM (AWrpC)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:05 PM (T38aJ)
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Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2024 08:45 PM (MoZTd)
There were two big reasons: 1) Cost and 2) range. A Henry rifle cost about $40 new. An M1863 Springfield cost about $15. In addition, the copper cartridges required cost significantly more than the Minie balls and paper cartridges needed for the Springfield. The Henry had a relatively short effective range of about 150 yards. An M1863 Springfield could reach out to around 400 yards if fired in volleys. Keep in mind that reloading the Henry had to be done via a slot in the magazine tube at the front of the rifle. Nelson King's side loading slot in the receiver didn't appear until 1866.
Also, keep in mind that the capability to mass produce repeaters on a scale to equip the whole Union army didn't exist. Oliver Winchester had problems filling the orders he had. The Spencer was more numerous, but even it didn't get produced in the volumes required to equip every solider wearing blue. No matter what happened, muzzle loaders would have been part of the armament Billy Yank carried into battle even in 1865.
There were two big reasons: 1) Cost and 2) range. A Henry rifle cost about $40 new. An M1863 Springfield cost about $15. In addition, the copper cartridges required cost significantly more than the Minie balls and paper cartridges needed for the Springfield. The Henry had a relatively short effective range of about 150 yards. An M1863 Springfield could reach out to around 400 yards if fired in volleys. Keep in mind that reloading the Henry had to be done via a slot in the magazine tube at the front of the rifle. Nelson King's side loading slot in the receiver didn't appear until 1866.
Also, keep in mind that the capability to mass produce repeaters on a scale to equip the whole Union army didn't exist. Oliver Winchester had problems filling the orders he had. The Spencer was more numerous, but even it didn't get produced in the volumes required to equip every solider wearing blue. No matter what happened, muzzle loaders would have been part of the armament Billy Yank carried into battle even in 1865.
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 09:06 PM (yRXSd)
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There are 40 listings for large rifle primers at ammo seek starting at 8.5 cents.
Posted by: ck at June 16, 2024 08:48 PM (nMOLw)
I'm surprised the commenting didn't suddenly stop as everyone goes to order.
Posted by: ck at June 16, 2024 08:48 PM (nMOLw)
I'm surprised the commenting didn't suddenly stop as everyone goes to order.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:06 PM (AWrpC)
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I've never heard of washing a cigar before you smoke it.
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM (DgGvY)
types... deletes... no politics on this thread.......
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM (DgGvY)
types... deletes... no politics on this thread.......
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:09 PM (AWrpC)
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Good evening gunthuasists. Been sitting out in the shade drinking wine with Rancherbob and CowHorse Queen and hashing out details for October.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM (7iAr4)
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Looks like Weasel is gonna get that talking to....
Looks like Weasel is gonna get that talking to....
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:12 PM (AWrpC)
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Good evening gunthuasists. Been sitting out in the shade drinking wine with Rancherbob and CowHorse Queen and hashing out details for October.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM
Good evening, Ben Had. That sounds like a perfectly cromulent way to spend an evening.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM
Good evening, Ben Had. That sounds like a perfectly cromulent way to spend an evening.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (v3isc)
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Big man: Let us consider the Darwinian level of stupidity it takes to insult a man who has a gun when you are unarmed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (fPzjs)
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184 Good evening gunthuasists. Been sitting out in the shade drinking wine with Rancherbob and CowHorse Queen and hashing out details for October.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM (7iAr4)
Cheers to that!
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM (7iAr4)
Cheers to that!
Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (n3DL0)
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GWB
That's excellent. Too often, I realize there was an opportunity to share my faith in Jesus after the fact. My first inclination was to make fun of his skinny jeans and ask him how long he had been a douche bag. At least I was able to suppress that.
That's excellent. Too often, I realize there was an opportunity to share my faith in Jesus after the fact. My first inclination was to make fun of his skinny jeans and ask him how long he had been a douche bag. At least I was able to suppress that.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (T38aJ)
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RMBS, reminds you that life is good. A hug for both you and your lovely Mom.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (7iAr4)
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21 Did you snatch the pebble from his hand yet??
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (ZdexC)
Well, I did earn my black belt last year so I might have done that with all the other things they piled on me...
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at June 16, 2024 07:16 PM (ZdexC)
Well, I did earn my black belt last year so I might have done that with all the other things they piled on me...
Posted by: NR Pax at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (lXCUP)
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The next time we're going Los Elgodones for our yearly scrips pilgrimage we'll have to stop in Yuma and check out that gun store.
I agree, buy more ammo.
I agree, buy more ammo.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 16, 2024 09:17 PM (aFNOf)
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187 Big man: Let us consider the Darwinian level of stupidity it takes to insult a man who has a gun when you are unarmed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (fPzjs)
Those people assume that the person with the gun lacks the courage to pull the trigger. That's a bet I'd never take.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (fPzjs)
Those people assume that the person with the gun lacks the courage to pull the trigger. That's a bet I'd never take.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 16, 2024 09:17 PM (lXCUP)
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Iris, hugs to you dear lady.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:18 PM (7iAr4)
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184 Good evening gunthuasists. Been sitting out in the shade drinking wine with Rancherbob and CowHorse Queen and hashing out details for October.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM
Howdy Ben Had!
That sounds like a pretty good day.
(Except for the planning on how to deal with Morons part!)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:11 PM
Howdy Ben Had!
That sounds like a pretty good day.
(Except for the planning on how to deal with Morons part!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 16, 2024 09:18 PM (HlyYF)
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My first inclination was to make fun of his skinny jeans and ask him how long he had been a douche bag. At least I was able to suppress that.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (T38aJ)
Well, it's a lot easier to come up with that answer sitting here than "in the field." I would have struggled to not do as you mention, too.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM (T38aJ)
Well, it's a lot easier to come up with that answer sitting here than "in the field." I would have struggled to not do as you mention, too.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:19 PM (AWrpC)
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Pillage Idiot, that's the fun part. We love having you all.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:19 PM (7iAr4)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:20 PM (X0iLW)
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RMBS, reminds you that life is good. A hug for both you and your lovely Mom.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM
Back at ya, dear lady. Will convey said hug at the earliest opportunity.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:16 PM
Back at ya, dear lady. Will convey said hug at the earliest opportunity.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 09:20 PM (Wnv9h)
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He started asking me if carrying a gun made me feel like a big man.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
I start off any responses to a blowhard imbecile with a very gentle voice saying: "Now I'm going to speak very slowly and use one syllable words so even a man with an intellect such as yours will be able to follow." will always lead to a very entertaining exchange.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
I start off any responses to a blowhard imbecile with a very gentle voice saying: "Now I'm going to speak very slowly and use one syllable words so even a man with an intellect such as yours will be able to follow." will always lead to a very entertaining exchange.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (WXNFJ)
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193 187 Big man: Let us consider the Darwinian level of stupidity it takes to insult a man who has a gun when you are unarmed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (fPzjs)
Those people assume that the person with the gun lacks the courage to pull the trigger. That's a bet I'd never take.
Posted by: NR Pax
Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:13 PM (fPzjs)
Those people assume that the person with the gun lacks the courage to pull the trigger. That's a bet I'd never take.
Posted by: NR Pax
Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (X0iLW)
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sock - Out of curiosity, what od/id hose/tubing do you use?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (XeU6L)
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Good evening! My Internet is back! Just came good a few minutes ago. Don't know why it was down; maybe power outage at the tower. It has been very windy here.
Peon Manor has 2 fewer gophers, and a few fewer 22LR cardtridges.
Peon Manor has 2 fewer gophers, and a few fewer 22LR cardtridges.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (kMo6R)
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OK everyone, 9:22 thank you time.
Thank you all for being here and participating, and hope to see you next Sunday!
Thank you all for being here and participating, and hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 09:22 PM (JwHpX)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (yRXSd)
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Thanks, Weasel, for another great Gub Thread. We'll miss you this week, but we'll endeavor not to bring shame upon our ancestors.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (Wnv9h)
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what od/id hose/tubing do you use?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
3/8 fuel line. 1/2 loses some of the flexibility.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
3/8 fuel line. 1/2 loses some of the flexibility.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (T38aJ)
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Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (X0iLW)
Or the last thing you hear is, "You talking to me? You talking to me? 'Cuz I don't see anybody else here."
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:21 PM (X0iLW)
Or the last thing you hear is, "You talking to me? You talking to me? 'Cuz I don't see anybody else here."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (fPzjs)
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BTW, the Rough Rider is not a swing-out cylinder. It's a gate loader (and single-action only).
So, they give you instructions on how to use the standard-now-comes-with-every-gun gun lock. You know the one - the longish cable lock? You have to take the cylinder all the way out, run the cable through the cylinder, then through the barrel, then latch the lock behind the cylinder.
Seems to me you could just put it through the barrel once the cylinder is out and safe the weapon perfectly fine. I guess you do both so you don't lose the cylinder when it's locked up.
So, they give you instructions on how to use the standard-now-comes-with-every-gun gun lock. You know the one - the longish cable lock? You have to take the cylinder all the way out, run the cable through the cylinder, then through the barrel, then latch the lock behind the cylinder.
Seems to me you could just put it through the barrel once the cylinder is out and safe the weapon perfectly fine. I guess you do both so you don't lose the cylinder when it's locked up.
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (AWrpC)
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 09:25 PM (yRXSd)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2024 09:24 PM (Wnv9h)
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Shoot for the middle! Will miss being there. Have fun!
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Shoot for the middle! Will miss being there. Have fun!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 09:25 PM (JwHpX)
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Thanks Weasel. Your consistent excellence is appreciated.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * levitating above the madness at June 16, 2024 09:25 PM (T38aJ)
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I've never heard of washing a cigar before you smoke it.
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM
* winks *
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2024 09:02 PM
* winks *
Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at June 16, 2024 09:26 PM (wpInm)
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197 Pillage Idiot, that's the fun part. We love having you all.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:19 PM
I know.
Still like to throw out a little self-deprecating humor considering how gracious all of our hosts are!
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:19 PM
I know.
Still like to throw out a little self-deprecating humor considering how gracious all of our hosts are!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 16, 2024 09:26 PM (HlyYF)
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Ed L , looking forward to seeing you again.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:26 PM (7iAr4)
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:27 PM (AWrpC)
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Thanks much, Weasel. Always a pleasure.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 16, 2024 09:29 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Ed L at June 16, 2024 09:30 PM (yRXSd)
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Seems to me you could just put it through the barrel once the cylinder is out and safe the weapon perfectly fine.
Sometimes you gotta wonder who is more creative, the engineers or the lawyers.
Sometimes you gotta wonder who is more creative, the engineers or the lawyers.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 09:31 PM (/y8xj)
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Once in a very long while a person is called to do something with a gun you would rather not do. Zocks was put to rest with a case of lead poisoning. His spirit wasn't ready but his body was.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2024 09:34 PM (7iAr4)
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Seems to me you could just put it through the barrel once the cylinder is out and safe the weapon perfectly fine.
Sometimes you gotta wonder who is more creative, the engineers or the lawyers.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 09:31 PM (/y8xj)
The job of "test engineer" is a crazy combination of those things. I spend a lot of time saying, "Look, if I thought of it, so will a user. Listen to me when I say 'protect against this.'"
Sometimes you gotta wonder who is more creative, the engineers or the lawyers.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 16, 2024 09:31 PM (/y8xj)
The job of "test engineer" is a crazy combination of those things. I spend a lot of time saying, "Look, if I thought of it, so will a user. Listen to me when I say 'protect against this.'"
Posted by: GWB at June 16, 2024 09:35 PM (AWrpC)
Posted by: RI Red at June 16, 2024 09:35 PM (HDGM5)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2024 09:37 PM (JwHpX)
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.22 LR being the foundation of my Ammo Pyramid, I've recently added a 3250 ct. case of Federal Auto Match 40 gr. to the pile.
$205 on Ammoman.
And, yes. Double Action Revolver dry fire has always been, and shall always be, the Breakfast of Champions.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
$205 on Ammoman.
And, yes. Double Action Revolver dry fire has always been, and shall always be, the Breakfast of Champions.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 16, 2024 09:41 PM (e6UQI)
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Now, on to the range report: Shot my fourth 1,000 yard match yesterday and, shockingly, did much better than the previous match. Managed to score 84 out of 100 possible points. (10 rounds, 3 sighters) I also got an X ring, which was nice.
Funny side note, I was shooting ammo that was a bit hotter than what I'd been using previously and I didn't believe the elevation data from my ballistics program. It was 4.5 MOA less than the loads I was using prior to yesterday. Naturally, I put one high, about 24" dead center.
Overall, I made progress and believe I might be able to compete with the equipment I have.
Funny side note, I was shooting ammo that was a bit hotter than what I'd been using previously and I didn't believe the elevation data from my ballistics program. It was 4.5 MOA less than the loads I was using prior to yesterday. Naturally, I put one high, about 24" dead center.
Overall, I made progress and believe I might be able to compete with the equipment I have.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 09:51 PM (tT6L1)
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Nicely done, Blake! Congratulations!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 16, 2024 09:57 PM (c2jz5)
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Overall, I made progress and believe I might be able to compete with the equipment I have.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 09:51 PM (tT6L1)
Nice - what are you shooting again?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 09:51 PM (tT6L1)
Nice - what are you shooting again?
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2024 09:58 PM (IFNME)
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Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel! ONT is now up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2024 10:00 PM (6T/Ac)
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Blaster, sorry, got called away.
Savage Axis II Precision 30.06. 178 Grain Hornady ELD M @ 2780 FPS (don't remember the muzzle brake manufacturer)
Topped with a Vortex Viper HD 5-25X50 FFP
If I do my part, I can get around .5 MOA out of the rifle.
Savage Axis II Precision 30.06. 178 Grain Hornady ELD M @ 2780 FPS (don't remember the muzzle brake manufacturer)
Topped with a Vortex Viper HD 5-25X50 FFP
If I do my part, I can get around .5 MOA out of the rifle.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2024 11:58 PM (tT6L1)
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