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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 06/15/2024 [TheJamesMadison]

Mad Max


With the release (and box office failure) of George Miller's latest film and seemingly final entry in his Mad Max franchise, Furiosa, it feels like a perfect opportunity to reflect back on one of the weirdest, enduring action franchises of the past forty-four years, consider its place in the larger culture, and wonder why the culture could embrace the second-to-last entry so fully while leaving the last entry in the dust of the Wasteland.

Born of Miller's desire to become a filmmaker and his experience with crash victims while working as an ER doctor at St. Vincent's Hospital in Sydney, Australia, Mad Max was a worldwide success, raking in about $100 million, but only about $8 million from the US. The sequel, Mad Max 2, was retitled The Road Warrior in the US because the first film had such a small impact and made almost $24 million in the US while (very briefly) becoming the biggest grosser in Australian box office history (quickly supplanted by Peter Weir's Gallipoli). This success led to the largest budget for a Mad Max film with Beyond Thunderdome made for $10 million and only bringing in $36 million at the US box office which was better than the previous film, but it performed much worse in Australia itself, effectively ending the franchise. It was never more than a modest financial win of a franchise, and Miller went off to make other things for more than a decade.

He actually went deep into pre-production on the sequel, Fury Road twice (it may actually be three because the final, successful effort to get Fury Road off the ground took several years and actually changed filming continents from Australia to Africa), and it was a very expensive production (probably helped in no small part by the successive efforts at getting things started which were probably rolled into the final cost). With a final budget reportedly somewhere between $150 and $180 million, Fury Road was easily the most successful entry in the franchise making $380 million. Miller was allowed to find the money to make Furiosa after he took a break to make his smaller, Three Thousand Years of Longing, and this production was also wildly expensive (reportedly about $170 million) and...it has flopped very hard. It makes me sad.

So, with the basic history of the franchise out of the way, let's talk about the movies themselves.

Continuity


One of the most noteworthy things across the first four films is the complete lack of continuity between them. The tightest connection is between the first and the second, the second using footage from the first as a prologue narrated by the Feral Child, but the film itself doesn't make any real reference to the first film except in the most oblique of ways (dialogue about Max having lost...something in his past). The world as presented in both films are so far apart in terms of collapse (the first is collapsing and the second has been collapsed for a while into the Wasteland). There's a connection, but there's been no real effort to make the details match.

From the second to the third is where it's obvious that continuity is simply not a concern. Max's V8 was destroyed at the start of the third act in the second film, but he somehow got it back and has attached a team of camels to it to drive it across the desert. This is also where the reusing of actors can get confusing with Bruce Spence playing the flyer of a gyrocopter in The Road Warrior and then a flyer of a jalopy who is a completely different person in Beyond Thunderdome. I think this is made even more apparent through the use of Max as a character at this point: he's barely one beyond an archetype in Beyond Thunderdome. There was an effort in The Road Warrior to give him an arc towards the point when he would help the isolated group of oil rig workers, but by the third film, he just helps people he comes across because that's who he is. There's no effort to connect the older girl who runs towards Bartertown to set up the second half of the film with Max's past in any way. It's, at best, assumed that this is just how Max treats helpless people he comes across in the Wasteland, but his efforts just kind of happen within the film itself. It's just what he does. He's kind of stopped being a character and is instead a vessel through which Miller guides the audience in his exploration of his created Wasteland.

Of course, the whole continuity thing goes out the window with Fury Road, but it's interesting because this is where continuity actually finally became important to him. If Miller were allowed to make a dozen more Mad Max films, I'm not sure how far that effort at continuity would have gone. Everything that he and his cowriter Nico Lathouris came up with regarding the three major fortresses of the Wasteland (the Citadel, Gastown, and the Bullet Farm) that formed the implied backstory of the world in the fourth entry of the franchise ended up getting explored in the fifth, Furiosa, in rather extreme detail. And, reportedly, if Miller had gotten to make one more (very unlikely now), it would have been called The Wasteland and shown how Max himself dealt with this background in the year leading up to the events of Fury Road.

So, Fury Road either finally allowed him to fully realize what the Wasteland would be, or he would have latched onto this manifestation of the Wasteland for three films before junking it to form another vision further down the line where Max just kind of shows up and helps people.

Storytelling

What is obvious through all of this, especially as the franchise gets into its later segments, is that Miller was using the Wasteland and Max and Furiosa as excuses to explore his other thematic and narrative concerns: storytelling, myth, and how they can bring people together. It's interesting that Miller chose to make a movie in between Fury Road and Furiosa. Titled Three Thousand Years of Longing, it's the story of a loner, female, academic who encounters a djinn and how the two connect through him telling her stories until they fall in love. After the runaway success of Fury Road, Miller went off and made a quiet movie about connecting through stories? That should tell you something about his priorities as a storyteller.

And it's easy to go back and look at the last four films of the Mad Max franchise through that lens. It just outright doesn't apply to the first film, but the second is framed by the Feral Child recalling the events in voiceover many years after the events, the third has a lot within it about storytelling around the youths maintaining the myth of Captain Walker (of which Max is supposed to be the culmination of the prophecy) and its meaning to them as a whole while ending with Savannah telling Max's story to a group of children. The fourth includes written text from "The History Man" helping to frame it, but it's better understood as part of the whole of which Furiosa is included where The History Man is an actual character. He provides some voiceover and obviously is the actual source of the story, especially evident at the end when he actually provides several different ends for the main antagonist, Dementus.

So, combine the fact that Max is largely just an archetype through most of these films combined with the emphasis on storytellers and myth, and you've got what Miller is actually doing across this weird, grotesque franchise: he's building myth himself. It's about ever-changing formulas that speak to the combined experience of living to each of us individually like how the Greeks derived life lessons from stories of gods and heroes of their own myth. And this is where I find the most interest across the whole franchise, how it feels like a series of well-told oral histories of a time long past but not quite forgotten. In that paradigm, that Max kind of never changes isn't the point. That there are vastly different styles of storytelling and visuals can be attributable to different storytellers. It creates this swirling concept of what storytelling is that I really appreciate. It's unique to us all, but it has similar effects at the same time, even when we're telling the same kind of story in different ways.

Box Office


So, I actually set out to write only about this topic, but the ace discussed it a few times over the past couple of weeks. It became less important as I explored the world of the Wasteland again, ending with my journey to the theater to catch Furiosa in its third weekend of release (I've been to the theater twice in the past six months, the other time for Dune: Part Two...having two small children and no free babysitters make disappearing for a few hours on my own to spend $15 to see a movie a hard sell). Furiosa is the only film of the summer that I have been excited to see. Looking ahead to the other releases like Deadpool vs. Wolverine or Inside Out, on the high end, or Longlegs, on the low end, it really was just Furiosa that got me revved. And that's important to note: I know that my tastes are out of alignment with the larger culture.

I've known it for a long time. I've known it since middle school when I was obsessed with Star Wars in the period between Return of the Jedi and The Phantom Menace. I was the only kid in school who read the Expanded Universe books, and I didn't care. I got so much enjoyment out of that. That extended to high school when I discovered both Dune and The Lord of the Rings. That Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings ended up making a lot of money at the box office through their cinematic adaptations felt more like a fluke than some sort of alignment between my tastes and the wider culture's because there were all sorts of movies that made a lot of money at the time that I didn't care about. So, me being excited for a film (I remember playing the trailer for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford endlessly for months before its release), I know, doesn't mean anything regarding the wider culture.

So, I reflect back on the decision to greenlight Furiosa, and I have questions. Sure, I was looking forward to it, but was anyone else? Mad Max has never been a huge box office phenomenon. I went over the numbers in the first section, and making $30 million or so in the 80s wasn't terrible, especially considering the budgets, but they weren't exactly Ghostbusters numbers. Even Fury Road made less than $400 million off of a budget of roughly $180 million. I'm not even sure it made a profit at all in theaters (I suspect that home video and streaming licensing got it over the line in the end).

Culture

I've begun to develop a theory about how art exists within a culture. It takes some truly special combination of forces to strike out against a dominant culture and make a large mark, and I don't think any of the Mad Max movies have proven that when it comes to cultural reach (influence within the film community is something else entirely, not what I'm talking about, and also undeniable regarding, in particular The Road Warrior). They were blips, at best, the largest of them being Fury Road, and we should take a look back at 2015 to see what kind of cultural space that was released into.

In 2015, Fury Road was the 21st biggest film of the year. At the top of the box office chart was Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens. Right after that was Jurassic World. At number 4 was Avengers: Age of Ultron. At number 6 was Spectre. At number 8 was Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation. This was the age of sequels, legacy sequels on long dormant franchises, and spectacle absolutely dominating the box office. This was arguably the height of studios mining their product from the 80s and 90s while continuing existing franchise filmmaking. This was a very big year, and into this year comes another legacy sequel filled with spectacle to the franchise people sort of remembered called Mad Max. Fury Road fit with the times. It fit so well that it did solidly good at the box office behind wildly positive reviews which even led to a Best Picture Oscar nomination. It was a strange time.

Where are we in 2024 with the release of Furiosa? Well, the spectacle film is dying, it seems, in some manner. The Marvel franchise finally saw outright bombs in 2023 with movies like The Marvels and Ant-Man 3: Quantumania. The Fall Guy cratered. On top of that, we're literally decades into this girl-led action hero thing in movies, but also five years removed from the obnoxiously feminist Charlie's Angels reboot flailing horribly along with a wide assortment of glorified straight-to-video female led action films headed by people like Jessica Chastain (Ava, anyone?). So, we're in a moment where the female-led action film almost feels like an outright negative to moviegoers (coincidentally, Bad Boys 4, headlined by two men, including Chris Rock slapper Will Smith, opened above expectations last weekend). In addition, the whole legacy sequel and efforts around continuing franchises seems to be more hit and miss than before. And, again, Fury Road wasn't a huge success at the box office to begin with.

Next I should bring up the concept of the movie star. I largely don't believe it, understanding how it began under Irving Thalberg in the 1920s as a marketing mechanism to help sell movies by telling audiences what types of films they were buying tickets for through the use of familiar faces. However, the movie studios definitely believe it, and you've got Furiosa headlined by Anya Taylor-Joy and Chris Hemsworth. Taylor-Joy is...not a movie star by the studios' definition. She headlines films, for sure, but the last few films she was arguably a "star" of were The Northman, Last Night in Soho, and The Menu, none of which exactly set the box office on fire. On the other hand is Hemsworth, and I need to share a small bit of his past box office performance. At, arguably, the height of his fame for playing Thor in the MCU, he was making about $100,000 per movie because the Marvel contracts were very limited but offered great exposure to the actors who signed. He then got a $10 million paycheck to star in Ron Howard's Rush, a film that didn't make $100 million globally, calling into question his ability to open a fim at all. Over the past few years, his only non-MCU credits are either Netflix films or the fourth Men in Black film which bombed horribly. These are the two movie stars that a good chunk of the marketing is based around.

Why on earth was Furiosa greenlit with a budget of over $150 million? I mean, I want to live in the world where this grotesque exploration of the Wasteland is some huge box office success, but it doesn't matter that Furiosa isn't actually about the battle of the sexes or whatnot, it was being released in a culture where even the perception of that stuff is failing to find audiences. This was a huge, grand miscalculation on the part of Warner Bros. I mean, I'm glad the film exists, and I can't wait to add it to my physical collection. However, this was insanity. Sure, I'm Monday morning quarterbacking, but the signs seem kind of obvious now, and it's not like there weren't voices wondering if a movie centered around Furiosa instead of Max was a good idea to begin with. They were there, but they were getting ignored because wrong-think, I guess. I dunno.

The Future in the Wasteland

So, does the failure of Furiosa mean that theaters are dying? It's certainly not helping matters, but there's a lot coming up that's going to make gobs of money. I don't have a crystal ball, but it seems safe to assume that we're in a period of contraction that will stop at some point. We're not going to get to a point where there are no theaters.

I think the bigger lesson though regarding Furiosa is about risk within a culture, understanding where the culture is, and playing to it. Fury Road coming out in 2015 feels like a fluke that it was able to ride to moderate success. Furiosa coming out in 2024 feels like a fluke that it was able to ride to ignominious failure. Would a Max led prequel/sequel/whatever done better? It's possible, maybe enough to edge the release from "abject failure" to "modest success", but I also don't have access to a multi-verse viewing device. Would it have been possible to realize in May of October 2022 (when the film went into production) that by 2024 all of the assumptions would have all collapsed? I have no idea, but it does feel like an interesting case study for how a film's wide release in theaters is subject to larger forces.

That leaves us with probably no future regarding more adventures in the Wasteland, at least in cinemas. But, then again, studio executives are stupid and are already trying to reboot The Matrix three years after the last one failed at the box office. Who knows?

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Inside Out 2

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

Mad Max (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "So, the real star is George Miller, director, but the real drag is George Miller, co-screenwriter. Another draft, potentially written by someone else, could have smoothed things out and given it real dramatic structure, but the director did his all with what he had." [Personal Collection]

Mad Max 2 (or, The Road Warrior) (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "I think I'm kind of weird pointing out those small elements that don't quite work, but whatever. I still get a real kick out of everything anyway." [Personal Collection]

Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (Rating 3/4) Full Review "It's kind of goofy. I find value with the children's oasis. It's thinner than it probably should be. But, it moves quickly and entertains as it goes. It's a fun time." [Personal Collection]

Mad Max Fury Road (Rating 4/4) Full Review "This feels like a talented, older filmmaker going for broke one last time. It has the same frenetic energy of the first film, but it has the narrative lessons learned over time as well." [Personal Collection]

Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's a surprisingly quiet look at vengeance, storytelling, myth, and the insanity of Miller's vision of a post-apocalyptic Australia that, I think, will only grow in appreciation over time as more people discover it through streaming and home video." [Theater]

The Exorcist (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's something of a complete package of a film, perhaps perfect in its construction and effect. It's really great stuff." [Personal Collection]

Sorcerer (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's an incredible ride, intricately built, and masterfully executed. It's quiet and tense and thrilling. I have issue with the ending, but that's kind of it. Otherwise, this is darn near perfect." [The Criterion Channel]

To Live and Die in L.A. (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The film begins as a generic, overwrought police procedural and then uses its character journeys to deepen the material and find actual meaning in the whole thing." [The Criterion Channel]

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Comments

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1 I could use popcorn

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 07:46 PM (fwDg9)

2 There is only one Mad Max. The rest are cartoons...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 15, 2024 07:46 PM (cOq4q)

3 Movie Sign, mate!

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 15, 2024 07:49 PM (Cp1vk)

4 First seen at least most if not all but newest Mad Max films, chances of going to thevmovies to see new are next to 0.
But 1, my local theater is only $10, and 2nd I like Anya.

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 07:54 PM (fwDg9)

5 Sorcerer is...intense

To Live and Die in LA is fantastic. Bitter, cynical, well acted. Killer 80s era soundtrack.

Road Warrior is the best!

Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsytucky at June 15, 2024 07:55 PM (/Djer)

6 I maybe always tried to figure out how they were all connected without being connected.

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 07:56 PM (fwDg9)

7 Good video on the timeline of the original trilogy

https://youtu.be/Sv5ZGi_Pn5M

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 15, 2024 07:59 PM (xPl2J)

8 Maybe men and women alike are tired of the stronk, female lead and would like to see a stronk, male lead for a while.

Furiousa seems to me to be suffering from vagina-fatigue.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 07:59 PM (3CVIc)

9 Remember: No matter where you go, there you are.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 15, 2024 07:59 PM (Cp1vk)

10 5 Sorcerer is...intense

To Live and Die in LA is fantastic. Bitter, cynical, well acted. Killer 80s era soundtrack.

Road Warrior is the best!
Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsytucky at June 15, 2024 07:55 PM (/Djer


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If you haven't seen the original version of Sorcerer, a French film called Wages of Fear, do check it out. It might be even better!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:00 PM (GBKbO)

11 And one on Max's dog

https://youtu.be/mXA1qy7OcuQ

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 15, 2024 08:00 PM (xPl2J)

12 The thing that struck me as different about Live and Die in LA was they killed off the lead. I think it was the first time I ever saw Willem Dafoe.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 15, 2024 08:01 PM (Cp1vk)

13 Currently watching Dead Poets Society.

Absolute masterpiece and Williams' best.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 08:03 PM (3CVIc)

14 I liked the first two Mad Max movies, never seen any more. Might though. One day.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 08:04 PM (LHPAg)

15 The last of the 1.1 liter twin turbo VCT diesels. Gets 72 mpg!

Posted by: Updated Mad Max at June 15, 2024 08:06 PM (vFG9F)

16 If you haven't seen the original version of Sorcerer, a French film called Wages of Fear, do check it out. It might be even better!
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:00 PM (GBKbO)

I have seen that, many, many years ago, and the name, and some scenes, has stuck with me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 08:06 PM (t4dnB)

17 The Road Warrior blew my mind when I first saw and I quite liked Fury Road.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 15, 2024 08:06 PM (L/fGl)

18 I have only ever seen the original. It played nonstop on cable for a while, and it felt...incomplete.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 15, 2024 08:08 PM (RIvkX)

19 Aside to Wages of Fear. I read a very interesting Web site dedicated to the practice of using nitroglycerin to stimulate oil wells (actual fracking, if you will). There were a lot of colorful characters involved. Some of them lived to a ripe old age. Others didn't.

The topic would make on Hell of a movie. You'd need to have Robert Duvall star in it, of course.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 08:10 PM (t4dnB)

20 "It takes some truly special combination of forces to strike out against a dominant culture and make a large mark"
________
I have no idea what that means, nor which movies did that. Or any other artworks.

It is only post-Romantic that anyone would believe it all that important to break with the culture, or with the powers that be. Vergil and Shakespeare certainly didn't. They both wrote outright propaganda for their societies' rulers. Did Bach do any such thing? Not that I can see.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 15, 2024 08:11 PM (1bNHn)

21
One of the most noteworthy things across the first four films is the complete lack of continuity between them.

_________

*polite cough*

Among them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2024 08:11 PM (MoZTd)

22 Max was mad for good reason, but when he came back as the Road Warrior, it was the world that had gone mad. I always figured that in the interim when things went to crap, Max just said "f' this shit" and got out of the city before the zombies took over.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:13 PM (vFG9F)

23 My favorite post semi apocalyptic Australian movie is The Rover.

I’m in the minority and didn’t really like Furiosa-Fury Road.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:13 PM (SHMXB)

24 Another week without mention of the cinematic masterpiece that is Summer School. Sad.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 15, 2024 08:14 PM (u73oe)

25 I will say the last time I eagerly anticipated a movie was Master and Commander.

Anyone ever notice it's almost as exclusively male as The Women is female? Nope, it didn't stand out. (One Brazilian chick Aubrey would have liked to hit. And a picture of Sophie. That's it)

Posted by: Eeyore at June 15, 2024 08:14 PM (1bNHn)

26 Just re-watched Mad Max a couple of weeks ago. The wife turns surprisingly stupid. She does the exact opposite of what she should do. Don't drive away from the farm (and Max). Don't run away from the car where there is a friend with a loaded shotgun.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:14 PM (fv27Y)

27 I don't think I have seen any of the Mad Max movies in its entirety, snippets on TV, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 08:16 PM (t4dnB)

28 "Another week without mention of the cinematic masterpiece that is Summer School. Sad.
Posted by: Duke Lowell "

No discussion of the Mad Max movies is complete without the inclusion of "Warrior of the Lost World".

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:16 PM (vFG9F)

29 Fury Road I think was worse of the lot.

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:17 PM (fwDg9)

30 Warrior of the Lost World? Is thy at the one that got the mst3k treatment? With the Paper Chase guy?

Posted by: Blutarski at June 15, 2024 08:18 PM (Cp1vk)

31 Re: Mad Max - TLDR.

I totally enjoyed the first two. After that, WTF? Stupid shit.

Amphetamines and rally sports is not a story.

Mad Max is a great story. Pull you head out of your ass!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 15, 2024 08:19 PM (dmXQN)

32 "I don't think I have seen any of the Mad Max movies in its entirety, snippets on TV, mostly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"

Really, the best part is when Max engages the clutch on the supercharger on his hopped up cop car. It's all downhill from there.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:19 PM (vFG9F)

33 I was in Filthydelphia in '85, and saw Thunderdome and Back to the Future one right after the other at a theater in the middle of the city.

One thing I wondered was if the crashed airplane's pilot being named "Captain Walker" was a shout out to the movie "Tommy", where his father was a pilot with the same rank and name.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:19 PM (fv27Y)

34 There is only Apocalyse Now.

Posted by: Jamaica at June 15, 2024 08:20 PM (IG7T0)

35 Maybe men and women alike are tired of the stronk, female lead and would like to see a stronk, male lead for a while.

Furiousa seems to me to be suffering from vagina-fatigue.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024


***
It was once an axiom in the moviemaking business that men, *and women*, did not like female leads in action films and would not go to see them. There were "women's pictures" once upon a time, of course, like Now, Voyager w/ Bette Davis. But with a Western or thriller or crime picture, men and women *both* wanted to see a male lead.

Somewhere that bit of wisdom got lost.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 15, 2024 08:20 PM (omVj0)

36 I have seen the first 3 entries in the franchise

I like the one where the guy has his own little scratch-built helicopter thing

Posted by: Don Black at June 15, 2024 08:21 PM (/7KEl)

37 "Warrior of the Lost World? Is thy at the one that got the mst3k treatment? With the Paper Chase guy?
Posted by: Blutarski"

And our disappointing hero, Megaweapon.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:21 PM (vFG9F)

38 Mad Max benefited from the industries willingness to just throw anything against the wall to see if it sticks, Escape from New York, Evil Dead, Time Bandits, an American Werewolf in London, Stripes, all came out the same year as The Road Warrior, and all made roughly the same amount of money on relatively low budgets.

Which is something Hollywood should figure out how to do again.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2024 08:21 PM (XV/Pl)

39 what was the movie where Dennis Hopper had the hijacked oil tanker?

Posted by: Don Black at June 15, 2024 08:22 PM (/7KEl)

40 I see Wages of Fear made in 1958, same script or premise?

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:23 PM (fwDg9)

41 Waterworld

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:23 PM (fwDg9)

42 Visiting Sydney in 2000, on a side street I walked past (and took a picture of) a car that was a replica of one of the 1st movie's police cars, with "Pursuit" on the back. It didn't have the blue lights (probably illegal) but it had everything else.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:23 PM (fv27Y)

43 I’ve been watching all the movies on underdogs forming a band. I started with Once. Watched Sing Street, The Commitments and School of Rock. Watching Bandslam right now.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:23 PM (SHMXB)

44 Don Black, Waterworld

Posted by: Ben Had at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (7iAr4)

45 It is only post-Romantic that anyone would believe it all that important to break with the culture, or with the powers that be. Vergil and Shakespeare certainly didn't. They both wrote outright propaganda for their societies' rulers. Did Bach do any such thing? Not that I can see.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 15, 2024 08:11 PM (1bNHn)


In a way, Virgil re-adapted the Greek Pastoral poem into a Latin form in a way that defined the literature through and including the post-Napoleonic Romantic period, Dante did much the same in the Comedies to view the world and Heaven and Hell and create a literature style of his own, Petrarch recast the Alexandrine meter into the Italian sonnet, and Shakespeare not only took the Italian Sonnet and converted it to English Prosody with it's metered foot, but also recast the pastoral, the history play and solidified English theater from the penny plays to a valid genre all of its own through sheer competence. In each case, the author took what had come before him and recast it through their own lens. When Virgil is aped not only by the various Italians, but by Langland, Cervantes, Shakespeare and Byron, then you can say he did something new.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (D7oie)

46 I liked Waterworld. Dystopia movies I like mostly

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (fwDg9)

47 40 I see Wages of Fear made in 1958, same script or premise?
Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:23 PM (fwDg9)

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Same premise. Not same script.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (GBKbO)

48 At"It didn't have the blue lights (probably illegal) but it had everything else.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert"

The Australian Ford Falcon. We didn't get those here.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:25 PM (vFG9F)

49 I guess I'm in the minority for liking Fury Road and Furiosa. Fury Road was just amazing to me. For a time I thought it might be nostalgia, but watching it again in the lead up to Furiosa convinced me that it really just is my favorite.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (ftFVW)

50 What created the wasteland in these movies?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (63Dwl)

51 liked Waterworld. Dystopia movies I like mostly
Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (fwDg9)

Me too. I’m also one of the few that liked The Postman also.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (SHMXB)

52 Maybe men and women alike are tired of the stronk, female lead and would like to see a stronk, male lead for a while.

Furiousa seems to me to be suffering from vagina-fatigue.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024

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I loved Battle Angel Alita. Don't know if they'll ever get around to making #2 though.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (fv27Y)

53 Evening.

I've never seen The Road Warrior. :B

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (Cj0/7)

54 You should fix that, Robert. Getting to see it for the first time will be a treat.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:28 PM (vFG9F)

55
"Warrior of the Lost World? Is thy at the one that got the mst3k treatment? With the Paper Chase guy?
Posted by: Blutarski"

And our disappointing hero, Megaweapon.
Posted by: fd


But didn't Megaweapon kill Einstein?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:29 PM (63Dwl)

56 50 What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (63Dwl)

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It's never clear, but it seems to have been a serious of disasters and conflicts. Water wars. Gas wars. Maybe nuclear Apocalypse?

Part of the whole oral history thing.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:29 PM (GBKbO)

57 "What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. "

Bil! Gates.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:29 PM (vFG9F)

58 I liked the deep(er) dive into the Maxian subcultures of The Citadel, Gastown, the Bikers, and the Green Area.

And Furiosa wasn't a Stronk Woman Grrlboss, FFS, she was just hellbent on revenge, and it was often remarked that she was a scrawny little thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:29 PM (FkUwd)

59 I loved Battle Angel Alita. Don't know if they'll ever get around to making #2 though.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (fv27Y)

She was the best girl power because she loved her man and acted like a girl.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (SHMXB)

60 What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (63Dwl)

In the first Mad Max it's intimated in various snippets of radio broadcasts that the Cold War goes hot.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (Cj0/7)

61 Me too. I’m also one of the few that liked The Postman also.
Posted by: polynikes

Me too.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (ftFVW)

62 Thanks to Moviegique for recommending "Late Night with the Devil." Clever script and good research very accurately capture the 1970s zeitgeist and look. It's genuinely suspenseful. (Hypnosis session was so effective, I still haven't snapped out of it.) Lead actor Dastmalchian is a ringer for "Ozark"'s Jason Butler Harner. 'Ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned for a live TV first, as we attempt to commune with the devil. But not before a word from our sponsors.'

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (MvF+J)

63 I always thought the Mad Max franchise was a vehicle to try out new stunts.

SWIDT

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (Q4IgG)

64 Mad Max was the first gratuitously violent movie I had ever seen. I was shocked and nauseated.

Didn't make it past 45 minutes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2024 08:31 PM (TLhHb)

65 I loved Battle Angel Alita. Don't know if they'll ever get around to making #2 though.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (fv27Y)

It was 20 kinds of stupid and strangely entertaining.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:31 PM (Cj0/7)

66 KTY was looking forward to Furiosa
Not sure if she saw it yet

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 15, 2024 08:31 PM (Ka3bZ)

67 52 Maybe men and women alike are tired of the stronk, female lead and would like to see a stronk, male lead for a while.

Furiousa seems to me to be suffering from vagina-fatigue.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024

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I loved Battle Angel Alita. Don't know if they'll ever get around to making #2 though.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (fv27Y)

I liked BAA as well. I really do hope they make a sequel. Kinda doubt it though after this long.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 08:31 PM (3CVIc)

68 64 My mom loved it. I was meh.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at June 15, 2024 08:32 PM (MvF+J)

69 50 What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (63Dwl)
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Didn't "Thunderdome" have the remnant folks remember a big nuke fight betwixt the US and USSR?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:32 PM (FkUwd)

70 (still OT But , , , ) In Spanish literature, during the post conquest period when Spain was integrating itself into the European and Italian-centric world, culminating in all the excesses and successes of the Siglo de Oro of Spanish letters, writing a pastoral in the style of Virgil, and writing a Divine Comedy in the style of Dante were the things you did to prove your bona fides. Even Cervantes did one of each.

And Cervantes also went on to recast the Picaresque novel, cast in a Romantic poem format to create two novels about the quest for truth and freedom in a world that lacked both.
Also, if you want a rollicking good time (snark alert) you should read about how Cervantes was rolling the views of the Spanish Scholastic school about freedom, liberty and economics into Don Quixote

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 08:33 PM (D7oie)

71 I always thought the Mad Max franchise was a vehicle to try out new stunts.

SWIDT
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Well done.

On the topic of stunts, love that the latest entries in Mad Max world tried to keep focus on the practical stunts. Some of the crazy shit from Fury Road was all the more impressive knowing real people and cars were doing that stuff.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 08:33 PM (ftFVW)

72 69 50 What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 08:26 PM (63Dwl)
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Didn't "Thunderdome" have the remnant folks remember a big nuke fight betwixt the US and USSR?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:32 PM (FkUwd)


Yes. The kids in the cave/oasis. They tell the story.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 08:33 PM (3CVIc)

73 61 Me too. I’m also one of the few that liked The Postman also.
Posted by: polynikes

Me too.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (ftFVW)

Me Three. I watched it just to laugh at it and ended up liking it. Not the first "bad" movie to be unfairly maligned.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:34 PM (FkUwd)

74 You should fix that, Robert. Getting to see it for the first time will be a treat.
Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:28 PM (vFG9F)

*Looks at his Amazon Wish List*

*Bumps it to the top*

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:35 PM (h+OMw)

75 I liked the Postman and Book of Eli

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:35 PM (fwDg9)

76 "The Pit And The Penguin" is on Svengoolie. They took some liberties with the story to make this movie.

Posted by: fd at June 15, 2024 08:35 PM (vFG9F)

77 "What created the wasteland in these movies?"

Set decorator.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (MvF+J)

78 The Road is a great book. The movie is meh.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (xPl2J)

79 Mel Gibson does bad ass really good.

Blood Father and Get the Gringo are both 5 out of 5 stars to me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (SHMXB)

80 The Postman is probably the worst half a movie I've ever sort of tried to watch. It was stupid. It was boring. It was tedious.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (TLhHb)

81 Postman was better than Prometheus.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 08:37 PM (3CVIc)

82 I rented Late Night with the Devil after Movie’s post. He summed it up nicely.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 15, 2024 08:37 PM (Cp1vk)

83 78 The Road is a great book. The movie is meh.
Posted by: Mark1971

Agreed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2024 08:38 PM (TLhHb)

84 They're releasing a 4K version of the original Seven Samurai that I thought looked good.

https://shorturl.at/YL3zw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 15, 2024 08:39 PM (L/fGl)

85 82 Do you know you have a leech on your neck? Can you see mine?

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at June 15, 2024 08:40 PM (MvF+J)

86 85 They're releasing a 4K version of the original Seven Samurai that I thought looked good.

https://shorturl.at/YL3zw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 15, 2024 08:39 PM (L/fGl)

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The YouTube video gives me pause. But YouTube compression, so grain of salt.

Essentially, it doesn't look very good. And I think I'll be happy with my Blu.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:40 PM (GBKbO)

87 What created the wasteland in these movies?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Commernism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at June 15, 2024 08:41 PM (L/fGl)

88 I didn’t read the book but I liked the movie The Road. The only thing I didn’t understand is why no wild animals or insects or fish. It actually had a semi happy ending.

Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:41 PM (SHMXB)

89 Thx TJM. Sorcerer is a seriously underrated and overlooked movie. To Live and Die in LA is very good, plus it had Darlan Fluegel naked and I thought she was hot. Passed away a couple of years ago

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 15, 2024 08:43 PM (FTjSO)

90 The Postman is probably the worst half a movie I've ever sort of tried to watch. It was stupid. It was boring. It was tedious.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (TLhHb)


The book was better, it was set between Roseburg and Corvallis

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 08:43 PM (D7oie)

91 The only thing I didn’t understand is why no wild animals or insects or fish. It actually had a semi happy ending.
Posted by: polynikes at June 15, 2024 08:41 PM (SHMXB)

The fish refused to work for scale.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 08:44 PM (t4dnB)

92 Saw a noir supernatural story the other night, "Alias Nick Beal", about a corruption-busting DA (Thomas Mitchell) who runs for governor but falls under the influence of a shadowy individual (Ray Milland) who guarantees victory -- for a price. Audrey Totter is great as a down-at-the-heels actress recruited to serve as a distraction. They all learn to despise Beal(zebub) but they can't escape his snares.

Great moody black and white photography, mostly black.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:44 PM (FkUwd)

93 93
Great moody black and white photography, mostly black.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:44 PM (FkUwd)

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Kino released it, and I've been tempted to blind buy it more than once.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:45 PM (GBKbO)

94 I should turn this off, the closer it gets to 4am hour the less sleep I get it seems

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:48 PM (fwDg9)

95 93 Added to my list, thanks!
ok.ru/video/644227336944

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at June 15, 2024 08:49 PM (MvF+J)

96 Speaking of Sorcerer there's a great interview of William Friedkin by Nicolas Winding Refn. Refn just keeps pestering Friedkin about his feelings o Sorcerer's box office failure and Friedkin just keeps pissing all over him. It's hilarious!

https://youtu.be/uZAvDlqGSEc

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:49 PM (y7oS7)

97 I saw that one too

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 15, 2024 08:49 PM (PXvVL)

98 Nick beal

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 15, 2024 08:50 PM (PXvVL)

99 97 Speaking of Sorcerer there's a great interview of William Friedkin by Nicolas Winding Refn. Refn just keeps pestering Friedkin about his feelings o Sorcerer's box office failure and Friedkin just keeps pissing all over him. It's hilarious!

https://youtu.be/uZAvDlqGSEc
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:49 PM (y7oS7)

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My favorite part is Friedkin low key shitting on Only God Forgives (I don't hate the film). His dismissiveness towards Refn fuels me.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:51 PM (GBKbO)

100 >>Didn't "Thunderdome" have the remnant folks remember a big nuke fight betwixt the US and USSR?

Two mighty warrior tribes went to war for reasons long forgotten that touched off a war that engulfed them all. The mighty machines that relied on oil ground to a halt and men began to feed on men over a tank of gazoleen.

Personally, I blame the Toe Cutter.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2024 08:52 PM (LkLld)

101 101 Personally, I blame the Toe Cutter.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2024 08:52 PM (LkLld)

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Between scenes, he launched the nukes!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:53 PM (GBKbO)

102 91 The Postman is probably the worst half a movie I've ever sort of tried to watch. It was stupid. It was boring. It was tedious.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 15, 2024 08:36 PM (TLhHb)

The book was better, it was set between Roseburg and Corvallis
Yeah, Tom Petty looked 'familiar' to the Postman. Heh. good book. Not a Lucifer's Hammer, but then nothing is.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 08:57 PM (LHPAg)

103 This famous shot from The Wizard of Oz was achieved by painting the room's interior and an extra wearing Dorothy's costume in sepia tones. The extra opens the door, and the real Dorothy, in her colorful costume, walks into the frame and out the door.

Toto -- I've a feeling we're not in Kansas
anymore.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 15, 2024 08:57 PM (ENQN6)

104 Alias Nick Beal just got added to the list.

Road Warrior got bumped down.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:57 PM (LW9Au)

105 105 Alias Nick Beal just got added to the list.

Road Warrior got bumped down.
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:57 PM (LW9Au)

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But where is Hell Comes to Frogtown?

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:58 PM (GBKbO)

106 Oh yeah, we have internet back. Had to erase 200 emails.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 08:58 PM (LHPAg)

107 Not a Lucifer's Hammer, but then nothing is.
Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 08:57
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I'd love a good series based on LH but that will NEVER happen. And these days I don't want one made.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:59 PM (FkUwd)

108 Lost my old nic but kinda like the new one, sounds kinda vaugely agricultural.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:01 PM (LHPAg)

109 108 I'd love a good series based on LH but that will NEVER happen. And these days I don't want one made.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 08:59 PM (FkUwd)

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Add a chicken. Make it may and lame!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:01 PM (GBKbO)

110 Ero, it looks like "Laphroaig" to me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 09:03 PM (FkUwd)

111 But where is Hell Comes to Frogtown?
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:58 PM (GBKbO)

*Only available copy is Polish and is $75 bucks*

*Orders it immediately*

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:04 PM (voRyi)

112 112 But where is Hell Comes to Frogtown?
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 08:58 PM (GBKbO)

*Only available copy is Polish and is $75 bucks*

*Orders it immediately*
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:04 PM (voRyi)

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Inflation strikes again!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:04 PM (GBKbO)

113 111 Ero, it looks like "Laphroaig" to me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 09:03 PM (FkUwd)
Ah yes, the old country. Right now I'm having induced flashback to 1967, drinking J.W. Dant.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:05 PM (LHPAg)

114 The premise of Wars of Oz miniature war gaming is a dystopia world after nuclear war

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 09:05 PM (fwDg9)

115 Saw a noir supernatural story the other night, "Alias Nick Beal", about a corruption-busting DA (Thomas Mitchell) who runs for governor but falls under the influence of a shadowy individual (Ray Milland) who guarantees victory -- for a price. Audrey Totter is great as a down-at-the-heels actress recruited to serve as a distraction. They all learn to despise Beal(zebub) but they can't escape his snares.

Great moody black and white photography, mostly black.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024


***
An exciting film. I saw it one night when I was in high school, and have only caught it once since then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 15, 2024 09:05 PM (omVj0)

116 OT why the internet is less fun now

https://youtube.com/shorts/ArmAv4sSRD8

The end made me laugh.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:08 PM (93ljO)

117 Did anybody ever figure out if ypeepa get paid for working on Jumeteeth? Cause I got sorta volunteered.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:09 PM (LHPAg)

118 I may actually see a Lena Dunham movie this week: "Treasure", set in the 90's, where she plays a journalist who accompanies her Holocaust survivor father (Stephen Fry) when he goes back to Poland to visit his childhood haunts. Our local critics liked it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (FkUwd)

119 In terms of the Theaters as a concept dying out versus just contracting, I think they are in a similar situation as computers. Bear with me.

In the early days, you didn't own a computer. A huge organization owned it, whether one of the top 500 companies in the world, or at a university. Then you had a burst of home computing, personal computers that were weak in comparison to a mainframe, but were yours to play with. They got more powerful, and businesses would end up having their own servers in-house.

Cloud computing is now the thing, like old mainframes. Why pay to host and maintain those in-house servers, when you can just pay a fee to Amazon or Microsoft to run your database and apps? So that became the big thing, although the underlying issues (if the cloud goes go down, what can you do?) may be flipping some companies back.

For the Theaters, you have home theaters. The theaters had movies, and then you had VHS and cable. Then the theaters had grand films that took half a year to reach home video. Now? You have cheap home setups plus streaming decades of content. The question is, what is the next tech that'll swing back the pendulum to theaters?

Posted by: Another Anon at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (QNMaY)

120 Did anybody ever figure out if ypeepa get paid for working on Jumeteeth? Cause I got sorta volunteered.
Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:09 PM (LHPAg)

Is Jumeteenth some sort of holiday celebrating the lack of a telegraph line to Texas?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (t4dnB)

121 It's a week old but my favorite cutie pie YouTube reviewer posted her brief reviews on the movies she watched last month.

https://youtu.be/1_EAOaC41NI

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:11 PM (k+0PL)

122 Not a Lucifer's Hammer, but then nothing is.
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That... and Rendezvous With Rama. Although I thought I'd seen where that might be happening. Can't remember who was behind it tho'.

And, TBH... the Hammer thing (end of the world) has been beat do death. Little with the rebuilding, which I assume is because it's "boring."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2024 09:12 PM (Q4IgG)

123 115 The premise of Wars of Oz miniature war gaming is a dystopia world after nuclear war
Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 09:05 PM (fwDg9)
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Make it Munchkin vs Gillikin cannibal holocaust and I'm in!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 09:12 PM (FkUwd)

124 I may actually see a Lena Dunham movie this week: "Treasure", set in the 90's, where she plays a journalist who accompanies her Holocaust survivor father (Stephen Fry) when he goes back to Poland to visit his childhood haunts. Our local critics liked it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (FkUwd)

The nude Jello wrestling scene with Lena and the giant kielbasa is worth the price of admission.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 09:13 PM (t4dnB)

125 I have a story that kinda sorta relates to this.

Dallas in 1981 was a big city for Hollywood previews of upcoming movies. There would be an ad in the theater section that there would be a preview of, in this case, a major action movie. Well!....

I thought that the movie preview was going to be Spielberg's RotLA which was already getting big buzz. I was there, baby.

And I wasn't the only one. So, imagine the groan that went up from the audience, when the title card showed, "Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior" or it might have been "The Road Warrior: Mad Max 2" or even just "Mad Max 2". I don't totally remember but "Mad Max 2 was there in big letters on the screen. However-

five minutes later, I was totally in to the whole movie experience cuz I'd never seen anything like that before. Probably, the best action movie experience of my life. And RotLA was just ahead.

Anyway I told everyone I could about this great movie. But, Raiders was such a juggernaut that I think it's a credit to the pure strength of storytelling that TRW made as big an impact culturally as it did.

Anyway, I think "Furiosa" failed because no surprises, just a superior iteration of girlboss.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:13 PM (eDfFs)

126 The question is, what is the next tech that'll swing back the pendulum to theaters?
Posted by: Another Anon at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (QNMaY)

If 3D could make a come back then now is finally the time for SMELL-O-VISION!

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:14 PM (k+0PL)

127 123 That... and Rendezvous With Rama. Although I thought I'd seen where that might be happening. Can't remember who was behind it tho'.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2024 09:12 PM (Q4IgG)

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Villeneuve has been circling the adaptation for years, but it's never materialized. This is after Fincher circled it for years.

It's probably not V's next, though. That seems to be some original scifi romance that, I think, Eric Roth is writing.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:15 PM (GBKbO)

128 The nude Jello wrestling scene with Lena and the giant kielbasa is worth the price of admission.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Barf

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 09:15 PM (ftFVW)

129 Whenever someone wants to know what L.A. was like in the 80's I tell them to watch To Live and Die in LA. Or Repo Man. The soulless desolation of the place is best captured in those two films.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 15, 2024 09:18 PM (MZ+PY)

130 121 Did anybody ever figure out if ypeepa get paid for working on Jumeteeth? Cause I got sorta volunteered.
Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:09 PM (LHPAg)

Is Jumeteenth some sort of holiday celebrating the lack of a telegraph line to Texas?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 09:10 PM (t4dnB)
AOP, the history shifts like Arabian sands. All I know is I was promised a dadgum teeshirt

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:19 PM (LHPAg)

131 That... and Rendezvous With Rama. Although I thought I'd seen where that might be happening. Can't remember who was behind it tho'.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2024 09:12 PM (Q4IgG)

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Villeneuve has been circling the adaptation for years, but it's never materialized. This is after Fincher circled it for years.

It's probably not V's next, though. That seems to be some original scifi romance that, I think, Eric Roth is writing.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:15 PM (GBKbO)


I'm a little surprised by this because, everyone knows the Big Twist by in RwR.

Spoiler if you don't:

"Rama" has no interest in us at all. It's just passing thru. FIN.

It might make a nice Twilight Zone sized TV feature at this point but not much else.

That's the difficulty right there.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:19 PM (eDfFs)

132 Any Mad Max memorable quotes?

"Speed's just a question of money. How fast can you go?" - Grease Rat

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 15, 2024 09:20 PM (XeU6L)

133 132 "Rama" has no interest in us at all. It's just passing thru. FIN.

It might make a nice Twilight Zone sized TV feature at this point but not much else.

That's the difficulty right there.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:19 PM (eDfFs)

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Insert Daddy issues, and voila!

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:20 PM (GBKbO)

134 I can't wait to see Furiosa, but I'm not going to any movie theaters, probably as long as I live.

I'll get a 4K copy, rewatch Fury Road (I already have the 4K), and perhaps even the Mad Max films (just regular blurays of those).

I can't help the movie industry figure out what it wants to do, I'm just going to continue to be entertained by the things I am. And speaking of continuity, I think it's worth noting, all the Big Series films that have come along in the past several decades, including the Marvel stuff, the Star Wars things... I think it's caused an overemphasis on continuity.

Things don't have to fit. I think of the Morse series (books and then BBC series), how many people get murdered in Oxford, in real life? It's just fun, and there's the suspension of disbelief thing, where if you just sit back and enjoy, and don't value things like realism or continuity too much, I think it's easier to do.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:20 PM (98dBG)

135 Any Mad Max memorable quotes?


*bellows*

I am the Night Rider!!!!!1111!!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:21 PM (eDfFs)

136 Lena Dunham

*snort*

*wretch*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 15, 2024 09:21 PM (jXtns)

137 Just walk away.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 09:22 PM (ftFVW)

138 My FiL's name was George Miller.

Great guy except he trusted his worthless son to be trustee of the Trust.

If you execute a Trust, make sure that the trustee is trustworthy.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 15, 2024 09:23 PM (VuZH8)

139 "Rama" has no interest in us at all. It's just passing thru. FIN.

It might make a nice Twilight Zone sized TV feature at this point but not much else.

That's the difficulty right there.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:19 PM (eDfFs)

====

Insert Daddy issues, and voila!
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:20 PM (GBKbO)


Well, Hollywood does love Daddy issues.

So...

Yeah!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2024 09:23 PM (eDfFs)

140 Things don't have to fit. I think of the Morse series (books and then BBC series), how many people get murdered in Oxford, in real life? It's just fun, and there's the suspension of disbelief thing, where if you just sit back and enjoy, and don't value things like realism or continuity too much, I think it's easier to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:20 PM (98dBG)
Exactly. Any series that somebody gets murdered, Columbo, Quincy, Matlock, Moonlighting, these are now replaced by 48 Hours and other 'solve it quick' reality murder shows.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:25 PM (LHPAg)

141 138 Just walk away.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 09:22 PM (ftFVW)
James Gang.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:27 PM (LHPAg)

142 Any Mad Max memorable quotes?

"Speed's just a question of money. How fast can you go?" - Grease Rat

Posted by: Mike Hammer

---------------

"Hey Mister! What happened to the car?"

"What do you think happened?"

"Looks like it was chewed up and spat out."

"Perhaps it's the result of an anxiety. "

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 09:28 PM (fv27Y)

143 Okay, so there's a 4K version of The Karate Kid that came out in 2019 that about $18 bucks.

There's a newer 4K coming out in a few days for $28 bucks.

So what's the difference?

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:29 PM (+AuCC)

144 Great googly moogly.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2024 09:30 PM (LkLld)

145 "So what's the difference?
Posted by: Robert "


$20. Same as in town.

Posted by: Guy who is bad at math at June 15, 2024 09:30 PM (vFG9F)

146 There's a newer 4K coming out in a few days for $28 bucks.

So what's the difference?
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:29 PM (+AuCC)

In the new one, the kid will be trans.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 09:31 PM (t4dnB)

147 You want to get out of here? Talk to me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 15, 2024 09:31 PM (u73oe)

148 144 Okay, so there's a 4K version of The Karate Kid that came out in 2019 that about $18 bucks.

There's a newer 4K coming out in a few days for $28 bucks.

So what's the difference?
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:29 PM (+AuCC

===

Looks like collectible packaging on the newer one.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:32 PM (GBKbO)

149 Things don't have to fit. I think of the Morse series (books and then BBC series), how many people get murdered in Oxford, in real life?
Posted by: BurtTC
------------

Pfft. You think Oxford is dangerous? Try Midsomer.

Posted by: Detective Chief Inspector at June 15, 2024 09:32 PM (XeU6L)

150 Robert - Hello. Good to see you here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 15, 2024 09:33 PM (XeU6L)

151 Moonlighting, these are now replaced by 48 Hours and other 'solve it quick' reality murder shows.
Posted by: Eromero
-----

The CSI series can find a DNA match during a 30 second commercial.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 15, 2024 09:34 PM (XeU6L)

152 150 Things don't have to fit. I think of the Morse series (books and then BBC series), how many people get murdered in Oxford, in real life?
Posted by: BurtTC
------------

Pfft. You think Oxford is dangerous? Try Midsomer.
Posted by: Detective Chief Inspector
..............................
Or Shetland.

Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsytucky at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (/Djer)

153 The CSI series can find a DNA match during a 30 second commercial.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Realistic would be boring.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (ftFVW)

154 I kind of blame the Road Warrior for a large portion of my early youth fatalism. As a 12 year old seeing that movie affected me big time. I went into a 'what the hell does it matter if this is the future' kind of mode. A future which seemed really plausible at the time. My teenage self destruction started soon afterwards.
I'm surprised I've lived this long.
Wish I could go back and tell 13 year old me.

Posted by: Reforger at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (xcIvR)

155 "We're not going to get to a point where there are no theaters."

I dunno. When was the last time you saw a vaudeville show?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (fPzjs)

156 I have two questions:

Why does TJM rate films on a 1 to 4 scale, while other visuals posted on the HQ are rated on a 1 to 10 scale?

Why aren't films also rated with something like WNWA (Would Not Watch Again) or WATPC (Will Add To Personal Collection)?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:38 PM (0vnhN)

157 "We're not going to get to a point where there are no theaters."

I dunno. When was the last time you saw a vaudeville show?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy


[political response typed&deleted]

Posted by: mikeski at June 15, 2024 09:39 PM (DgGvY)

158 157 I have two questions:

Why does TJM rate films on a 1 to 4 scale, while other visuals posted on the HQ are rated on a 1 to 10 scale?

Why aren't films also rated with something like WNWA (Would Not Watch Again) or WATPC (Will Add To Personal Collection)?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:38 PM (0vnhN)

===

Because I don't follow anyone's rules, not even my own.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:39 PM (GBKbO)

159 Seems to me, you don't wanna talk about it. Seems to me, you just turn your pretty head and walk away.

Posted by: Notorious BFD Gang at June 15, 2024 09:40 PM (mH6SG)

160
The question is, what is the next tech that'll swing back the pendulum to theaters?
Posted by: Another Anon


Holodeck

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 09:41 PM (63Dwl)

161 In the new one, the kid will be trans.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 09:31 PM (t4dnB)

That's going to put Miyagi-Sensei in a whole new light.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:43 PM (+AuCC)

162 And, TBH... the Hammer thing (end of the world) has been beat do death. Little with the rebuilding, which I assume is because it's "boring."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 15, 2024 09:12 PM (Q4IgG)


Frederick Pohl's Starburst had a section on the rebuilding of Earth (after the astronauts they sent to their deaths destroyed it on their way to Alpha Centauri)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 09:44 PM (D7oie)

163 I kind of blame the Road Warrior for a large portion of my early youth fatalism. As a 12 year old seeing that movie affected me big time. I went into a 'what the hell does it matter if this is the future' kind of mode. A future which seemed really plausible at the time. My teenage self destruction started soon afterwards.
I'm surprised I've lived this long.
Wish I could go back and tell 13 year old me.

Posted by: Reforger at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (xcIvR)
===

I blame Death Wish

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 15, 2024 09:44 PM (RIvkX)

164 The question is, what is the next tech that'll swing back the pendulum to theaters?
Posted by: Another Anon

Holodeck
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 09:41 PM


When your Mom and the Ship's Counselor review all your holodeck programs, you might as well have the early 21st Century hosts of The View reviewing them on a 1 to 4 scale.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 15, 2024 09:45 PM (0vnhN)

165 I have two questions:

Why does TJM rate films on a 1 to 4 scale, while other visuals posted on the HQ are rated on a 1 to 10 scale?

Why aren't films also rated with something like WNWA (Would Not Watch Again) or WATPC (Will Add To Personal Collection)?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:38 PM (0vnhN)

One of my ways to "rate" a film is how tempted I am in the middle to get up and do something else. Or how often I check the run time to see when it's going to end.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:45 PM (yxiAY)

166 Robert - Hello. Good to see you here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer

----------

Howdy Mike. Still got my head above water.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 09:45 PM (fv27Y)

167 Looks like collectible packaging on the newer one.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 15, 2024 09:32 PM (GBKbO)

It better be a steel book made of solid gold.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:46 PM (+AuCC)

168 157 I have two questions:

Why does TJM rate films on a 1 to 4 scale, while other visuals posted on the HQ are rated on a 1 to 10 scale?

Why aren't films also rated with something like WNWA (Would Not Watch Again) or WATPC (Will Add To Personal Collection)?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:38 PM (0vnhN)
Because nothing is really a 'Ten'. Nothing is that perfect, except maybe The Ten Commandments, and we all know where those came from.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:47 PM (LHPAg)

169 "We're not going to get to a point where there are no theaters."
I dunno. When was the last time you saw a vaudeville show?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 15, 2024 09:36 PM (fPzjs)

Minstrel Show > Vaudeville Show

The Horror....the horror...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2024 09:47 PM (R/m4+)

170 The question is, what is the next tech that'll swing back the pendulum to theaters?
Posted by: Another Anon

Holodeck
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2024 09:41 PM

When your Mom and the Ship's Counselor review all your holodeck programs, you might as well have the early 21st Century hosts of The View reviewing them on a 1 to 4 scale.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 15, 2024 09:45 PM (0vnhN)

Shut up, Wesley.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:47 PM (+AuCC)

171 Sorry I missed most of the thread, doing yard work til the sun went down. I admit that while Road Warrior is probably the best film overall, Thunderdome will always be my favorite. Tina Turner’s character is probably the best addition in the entire franchise.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (S6gqv)

172 The CSI series can find a DNA match during a 30 second commercial.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

------------------

DNA sample just pinned the rape and murder of Maryland mother on a guy that was caught in LA during a home invasion. Of course he's an illegal. I'm sure it'll be mentioned by Ace or a CoB on Monday.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (fv27Y)

173 Miss Hum gonna stompinate the movie thread any second now.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (+AuCC)

174 Because nothing is really a 'Ten'. Nothing is that perfect, except maybe The Ten Commandments, and we all know where those came from.
Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:47 PM (LHPAg)

Cecil B. DeMille?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (yxiAY)

175 Cecil B. DeMille?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (yxiAY)
-----------
Ready when you are, CB!
--just the punchline

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 15, 2024 09:50 PM (3Fz6p)

176 I watched Suicide Squad. As a live action comic book movie it was tolerably OK, as a film, however, it was a turkey.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 09:50 PM (D7oie)

177 172 Sorry I missed most of the thread, doing yard work til the sun went down. I admit that while Road Warrior is probably the best film overall, Thunderdome will always be my favorite. Tina Turner’s character is probably the best addition in the entire franchise.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2024 09:49 PM (S6gqv)
I was glad to see the big oak trees at the castle house across from Berfeld were still standing.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:50 PM (LHPAg)

178 I watched Suicide Squad. As a live action comic book movie it was tolerably OK, as a film, however, it was a turkey.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 09:50 PM (D7oie)

Which one? Suicide Squad or The Suicide Squad?

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:51 PM (+AuCC)

179 And, TBH... the Hammer thing (end of the world) has been beat do death. Little with the rebuilding, which I assume is because it's "boring."
Posted by: Martini Farmer

------------------------

And no way would they do it with an army of black cannibals attacking the survivors.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 09:52 PM (fv27Y)

180 180 And, TBH... the Hammer thing (end of the world) has been beat do death. Little with the rebuilding, which I assume is because it's "boring."
Posted by: Martini Farmer

------------------------

And no way would they do it with an army of black cannibals attacking the survivors.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 15, 2024 09:52 PM (fv27Y)
Come on they were more diverse than that. It was California, after all.

Posted by: Eromero at June 15, 2024 09:53 PM (LHPAg)

181 There are three Mad Mad movies and a fourth there shall never be.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 15, 2024 09:54 PM (8sMut)

182 The stupidity of gauging success by raw numbers is embarrassing.

Obviously a film that costs x and earns 3x is more profitable than a film that costs y and earns 2y.

The raw numbers are unimportant.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2024 09:54 PM (d9fT1)

183 Which one? Suicide Squad or The Suicide Squad?
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:51 PM (+AuCC)


The one with the giant alien starfish and John Cena (pictured on right)

The Suicide Squad?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 09:56 PM (D7oie)

184 Obviously a film that costs x and earns 3x is more profitable than a film that costs y and earns 2y.

The raw numbers are unimportant.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2024 09:54 PM


What if x = 10 million, and y = 100 million?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:57 PM (0vnhN)

185 179 I watched Suicide Squad. As a live action comic book movie it was tolerably OK, as a film, however, it was a turkey.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 09:50 PM (D7oie)

Which one? Suicide Squad or The Suicide Squad?
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:51 PM (+AuCC)

I thought the 2nd one was better, though they should have not killed Flagg.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 15, 2024 09:58 PM (FCrpy)

186 Okay, yeah, I believe that is THE Suicide Squad.

Never saw it. Directed by James Gunn. Don't understand why all the fanboys are so horny for him.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:58 PM (+AuCC)

187 The stupidity of gauging success by raw numbers is embarrassing.

Obviously a film that costs x and earns 3x is more profitable than a film that costs y and earns 2y.

The raw numbers are unimportant.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2024 09:54 PM (d9fT1)

Studios don't think so, or they'd be making a bunch of hundred million dollar movies, hoping to earn three hundred, instead of a bunch of 500 mils, hoping for a bil.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 09:59 PM (yxiAY)

188 13 Currently watching Dead Poets Society.

Absolute masterpiece and Williams' best.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2024 08:03 PM (3CVIc)

I agree.

Though now the loss of Neal hits way too close to home.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 15, 2024 09:59 PM (8sMut)

189 46 I liked Waterworld. Dystopia movies I like mostly
Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2024 08:24 PM (fwDg9)

Road Warrior With Boats

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 15, 2024 10:00 PM (8sMut)

190 Okay, yeah, I believe that is THE Suicide Squad.

Never saw it. Directed by James Gunn. Don't understand why all the fanboys are so horny for him.
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 09:58 PM (+AuCC)

I liked it, but yeah, it's a bit too... Gunny.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 10:01 PM (yxiAY)

191 Road Warrior With Boats
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 15, 2024 10:00 PM (8sMut)

Rowed Warriors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 10:02 PM (t4dnB)

192 >>Studios don't think so, or they'd be making a bunch of hundred million dollar movies, hoping to earn three hundred, instead of a bunch of 500 mils, hoping for a bil.

Hollywood is going broke.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2024 10:03 PM (LkLld)

193 Would you crew a longboat build by Acethar?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 10:03 PM (0vnhN)

194 ONT is nood!

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 10:03 PM (+AuCC)

195 What if x = 10 million, and y = 100 million?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2024 09:57 PM (0vnhN)

In which film would you rather invest your money?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 15, 2024 10:03 PM (d9fT1)

196 I liked it, but yeah, it's a bit too... Gunny.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 10:01 PM (yxiAY)


It kept bouncing between campy and trying to be serious while bouncing obvious gags.
It would have been better to be deadly serious with insane campy characters.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2024 10:04 PM (D7oie)

197 Rowed Warriors.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 15, 2024 10:02 PM (t4dnB)

Reminds me of the Conan episode, with Norm and Courtney Thorne-Smith. Norm was flirting/teasing her, and Conan said something about her next project, called "Chairman Of the Board," and he said to Norm "now try to make fun of that."

Norm doesn't miss a beat, says "must be spelled 'bored."

I hope that wasn't set up, and was just a spur of the moment thing. I want to believe it was.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 10:06 PM (yxiAY)

198 Reminds me of the Conan episode, with Norm and Courtney Thorne-Smith. Norm was flirting/teasing her, and Conan said something about her next project, called "Chairman Of the Board," and he said to Norm "now try to make fun of that."

Norm doesn't miss a beat, says "must be spelled 'bored."

I hope that wasn't set up, and was just a spur of the moment thing. I want to believe it was.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2024 10:06 PM (yxiAY)

Norm was sauced off his ass. Pretty sure it was spontaneous.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 10:13 PM (6bZP+)

199 "132 Any Mad Max memorable quotes?"

Oi!

Crazy 'bout 'cha!

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 16, 2024 12:29 AM (pCXlW)

200 "It takes some truly special combination of forces to strike out against a dominant culture and make a large mark, and I don't think any of the Mad Max movies have proven that when it comes to cultural reach..."

It did inspire a wrestling tag team.

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 16, 2024 12:38 AM (pCXlW)

201 All Hail Schlürpo

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 16, 2024 02:35 AM (JKPiI)

202 In the first Mad Max it's intimated in various snippets of radio broadcasts that the Cold War goes hot.
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2024 08:30 PM (Cj0/7)

But, before that, much is made about creeping anarchy and the countryside becoming ungovernable. THEN the Cold War goes hot.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 16, 2024 03:02 AM (JKPiI)

203 TECH THREAD IS NOOD

My work here is done

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2024 04:02 AM (fwDg9)

204 I just saw Furiosa. I’d read The Critical Drinker’s review, and it was spot on. It’s a very entertaining movie that has nothing to do with Mad Max (the ostensible thread tying the first four movies together). I’d agree with the review here. Far from being invincible girlboss (which I think Fury Road flirted with - I don’t actually remember it), Furiosa uses guile, intelligence, and a fair bit of nimbleness to get along. It really is a pretty good movie.

Posted by: Advo at June 16, 2024 02:01 PM (jO4mz)

205 This probably marks me as a lowbrow, but the test of how good a movie is:
Does this film contain main characters that I would want to spend time with in real life? Not perfect, just human and with some degree of civilization in their heart.
Few modern films qualify

Posted by: Linda S Fox at June 16, 2024 04:04 PM (7Rs+y)

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