Judge Cannon Blasts Democrat Prosecutor Jack Smith For Unprofessionalism in Seeking Gag Orders on Trump

Jack Smith, in a nakedly political move, demanded that Judge Cannon hit Trump with a gag order for... tweeting that FBI agents were permitted to shoot to kill in executing the search warrant.

That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction, and that Trump wasn't home, but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant.

Trump's statements are protected first amendment speech, even if his claims are contentious. In no world does a prosecutor have any business seeking a gag order to stop a presidential candidate from making politically-charged claims.

Except when the prosecutor is just a campaign worker for Biden 2024.

Politico whines about Judge Cannon, yet again:

The judge overseeing the criminal case against Donald Trump for hoarding classified documents at his Florida home has again chided special counsel Jack Smith's team for its tactics -- this time over a request for an order preventing Trump from repeating baseless claims that FBI agents carrying out a search at Mar-a-Lago last year were authorized to kill him.

Even if these claims are "baseless" -- and they're not; they're true (if misleading) -- what business is it of a court or prosecutor to act as a Twitter Content Moderator regarding Trump's claims?

Will Jack Smith likewise ask for gag orders on Biden for repeating the "9% interest" lie? Why not? He has as much authority to seek a gag order about that as about Trump's claim.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon turned down the gag order request Tuesday as she delivered another sharp warning to prosecutors that they need to make more concerted efforts at dialogue with Trump's counsel before bringing disputes to the court.
"The Court finds the Special Counsel's pro forma 'conferral' [with the defense] to be B? wrote Cannon, a Trump appointee. "It should go without saying that meaningful conferral is not a perfunctory exercise."
Cannon didn't rule out granting the request in the future, but she said prosecutors would need to to further engage with Trump's side over the issue before she will take it up again. She also questioned Smith's claim of urgency to file the gag order request, noting that prosecutors filed it on a "non-emergency" basis. It was submitted on the Friday evening before the Memorial Day weekend, leading Trump lawyers to complain that they were being rushed into responding.

So they lied.

In addition, Cannon appeared to fault Smith's attorneys for skewing how they described the stance that Trump's lawyers had taken on the proposed gag order. The judge suggested prosecutors had relegated Trump's response to "editorialized footnotes," rather than just reciting it neutrally to the court. She directed both sides to provide her with more details in the future on their attempts to work out such disputes and to do so "in objective terms."
While the judge seemed piqued by the prosecutors' actions, she turned down a request from Trump's defense to impose sanctions on the prosecution for allegedly defying court rules and her previous orders. However, Cannon said that was possible if her rulings aren't obeyed.
"Failure to comply with these requirements may result in sanctions," the judge wrote in the brief order posted to the south Florida federal court's online docket Tuesday morning.
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Prosecutors have indicated they needed to move quickly with the gag request because of a series of inflammatory public statements by Trump claiming that FBI officials had given the OK to kill him during the court-ordered raid at Mar-a-Lago in May 2022. The claim stems from the inclusion of a policy on use of deadly force included in the operations plan given to agents prior to the search.

They're claiming that Trump's remarks may endanger law enforcement officials... um, what authority does a prosecutor have to stop speech he doesn't like?

His only authority over Trump's speech (debatedly!) is if Trump's speech interferes with the administration of justice in this one case -- he does not have limitless authority to gag Trump whenever Trump is disputing Democrat/Government Party dogmas.

Will he similarly seek a gag order on Cori Bush to stop lying about the death of Michael Brown -- an absolute lie that definitely puts cops' lives in danger?

Nah, of course not.

But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:14 PM

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Posted by: GF at May 28, 2024 02:14 PM (aJxr8)

2 In before the doom trolls.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2024 02:15 PM (u73oe)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at May 28, 2024 02:15 PM (8RNuU)

4 Thanks, boss. That last thread was getting rank.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 02:15 PM (Q0kLU)

5 but see that glorious judge in New York gave him one, This Canon chick is just a Trumper!

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:16 PM (CIS44)

6 that the FBI thought nothing of leaving an authorization for lethal force in a warrant for the residence of a former president should bother everyone.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)

7 Those FBI guys are the bees knees. Especially with the fashion sense handed down by J Edgar.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (Aoykm)

8 Jack Smith has the look of a man who's every residence in the last 30 years should be searched by cadaver sniffing dogs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

9 That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction, and that Trump wasn't home, but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant.

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I'm really, REALLY, unclear how this is a defensible position.

Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

10 But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage.

Why, they don't seem to care about their reputation.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 28, 2024 02:19 PM (N39Ws)

11 It is absolutely NOT 'routine boilerplate instruction' for search warrants over nonviolent crimes. They had to bend over backwards to try and justify it.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 28, 2024 02:19 PM (setIA)

12 I'm really, REALLY, unclear how this is a defensible position.

Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

Was that "standard provision" in the Biden warrants?

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:19 PM (CIS44)

13 Judge Cannon seems to be being a bit lenient on Smith and crew. They've already ignored her orders by filing more BS when she told them not to file anything else.

She's a Biden stooge!!!!

(okay, I don't think she is; but, she is leaning over backwards for the prosecution.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (5J1RI)

14 G*d DAMN it.....

What do I have to get you to do to understand my platform is now called X!

ECKS! X! X! X! X!

I'm INFATUATED with the letter, you know.

Posted by: Elon Musk at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

15 The FBI said they had kitchen knives.

The Horror
The Horror

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Aoykm)

16 That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction

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Another moron asked this:

How does that type of threat/implied threat to a president work again? It's illegal, right?

But boilerplate. Or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - minus religion, name one benefit for men getting married at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (uei2D)

17 Cannon blasts!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (63Dwl)

18 "the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?"

What if they go to arrest a man in front of his kids at eight in the morning and his wife and dog are there? Officer safety is paramount.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Ectld)

19 > It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction

Is it? Has someone who sees a lot of these orders confirmed that?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:21 PM (Odg76)

20 FBI: Spying and Crapping on the US Constitution and American Citizens since 1908. FBI=NKVD, change my mind...you won't.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 28, 2024 02:21 PM (f87vz)

21 The FBI needs to be dissolved, but I'm sure the concern trolls see it differently.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 28, 2024 02:21 PM (pohLc)

22 If there’s one thing the left knows everything about, it’s gagging.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 28, 2024 02:21 PM (JTwsP)

23 What if they go to arrest a man in front of his kids at eight in the morning and his wife and dog are there? Officer safety is paramount.
Posted by: Ribbed a

What exactly would the ATF provide as a service if they can't execute family pets?

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:22 PM (CIS44)

24 19 > It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction

Is it? Has someone who sees a lot of these orders confirmed that?
Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:21 PM (Odg76)

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Jesse Kelly has said that the provision was specifically asked for by the DOJ in the order.

No idea if true, but I haven't seen an example of another order to claim something like documents having an authorization to kill in it which...AGAIN...is a TERRIBLE defense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

25 Must protect the FBI's top secret sources and methods.

But when the methods involve lies, planted evidence, entrapment and all manner of deceit ... should those be protected?

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (Cus5s)

26 Where is the respect for law and order?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (L/fGl)

27 It wasn't boilerplate. Nor is it SOP for the FBI to serve a warrant in plainclothes like that.

Secret Service was deliberately baited into doing something stupid.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (HVx/y)

28 I'd say the FBI approval is around 38%. Just a guess.

I'd like 4chan to look into every agent on the payroll.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (Z8Yh2)

29 Sanctions?
Like ball-gagging Mr. Smith and send him to Washington's Gulags? Sounds good to me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

30 You can tell who flies the desecrated blue stripe flags around here.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (Aoykm)

31 No idea if true, but I haven't seen an example of another order to claim something like documents having an authorization to kill in it which...AGAIN...is a TERRIBLE defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

Oh, I dunno. Works for me.

Posted by: Bond. James Bond. at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (T+Iwg)

32 "What exactly would the ATF provide as a service if they can't execute family pets?"

Then everyone wants to get teary eyed on Facebook when a cop dog gets killed. Piss off.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (Ectld)

33 Were the FBI going to shoot the secret service agents at Mar Lago if they had been prevented entrance? Or just anybody named Trump?

Posted by: Cosda at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (p1lqb)

34 Even if these claims are "baseless" -- and they're not; they're true (if misleading)

It's not misleading, the FBI lied again. According to Julie Kelly, there was a special shoot-to-kill order for the MAL raid because the FBI told a judge they were scared of Trump attacking them with kitchen knives and dumbbells. I guess that's a complicated way of admitting that their agents aren't eating steaks or getting GAINZZZ.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (2ocoG)

35 Dan Bongino is former Secret Service, and he's not buying the boilerplate argument.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (HVx/y)

36 Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

Was that "standard provision" in the Biden warrants?
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:19 PM (CIS44)

I would have figured that was standard for any and all LEOs, FBI or not. Why else are they carrying guns?

No cop ever has a "shoot to kill" order, like some kind of assassin, but they do have a standing order to "shoot and don't worry if they're killed, but only if you absolutely have to, because they're trying to kill you".... which, honestly, should also be the standard RoE for any American citizen. It's the fundamental assumption that makes the 2nd amendment make sense.

So the question is, why even bring it up in the paperwork? Just to remind them? Hey, nudge nudge, you can shoot people, you know, right? Wink Wink.

Fucking mutants.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (VoAdT)

37 Speaking of the FBI:

Governor Phil Bryant: “I’m the campaign finance director for Donald Trump in Mississippi, so we raise money. I’ve talked to a number of very wealthy individuals that God has blessed that say I can’t give money to Donald Trump because the FBI will show up at my door.”

https://tinyurl.com/43jbj5sz

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (ukLwM)

38 Lethal force not prohibited. Presence of Secret Service detail presumed. No iconic "FBI" windbreakers or caps.

One could be excused for believing they wanted an OK Corral event.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (wzAuc)

39 You can tell who flies the desecrated blue stripe flags around here.
Posted by: Jak Sucio a

somewhat related: cop has sex in patrol car, gets himself locked in said car, is fired.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1795254859069030890

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (CIS44)

40 Completely glossing over the fact that in no time in history did the FBI ever come in guns a blazin' when looking into documents retained by a former president.

Trump never said they couldn't see or obtain the documents. He wasn't being rebellious. He wasn't resisting. They weren't being denied access.

This started out as a big show and is continuing on and on and on by design.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

41 I'd like to see the documentation that proves the claims are baseless. Oh, that is opinion? Well then, you aren't a news organization.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (lTGtQ)

42 25 Must protect the FBI's top secret sources and methods.

But when the methods involve lies, planted evidence, entrapment and all manner of deceit ... should those be protected?

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (Cus5s)

Which is why the FIB NEVER wants the tapes of what happened Jan 6th to be released; too much exculpatory evidence for defendants, and too much exposure of illegal acts and methods. You can't (legally) start a fire in a theatre and blame it on the guys shouting "Fire!"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

43 It is absolutely NOT 'routine boilerplate instruction' for search warrants over nonviolent crimes. They had to bend over backwards to try and justify it.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 28, 2024 02:19 PM (setIA)

***

This very act lays bare the intent of the Dems.
Complete bullshit.
Suppose Millania was there and forcefully telling them to stay out of her underwear? She uses foreign words that none of the fibbies understand. What do they do?
Cuff her?
Billy club?
Glock to center of mass.
Gawd we are in free fall and when we hit bottom it won't be pretty.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (rVgtT)

44 Of course the Judge is bending over backward to appease Smith. Trying very hard to avoid creating any conditions for reversal down the road.

The DNC have rigged the courts to the point it's tails they win, heads you lose.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (tT6L1)

45 But little Bobbie DeNiro is MAD

Posted by: Zeera , becoming ungovernable by choice at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (YoS4M)

46 Sounds like those FBI TV shows aren't working.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (fOXkL)

47 C'mon man, those are regular ham and egger eff bee eye guys!
Top. Men!

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (/6GbT)

48 Full time line:
@amuse @amuse
What if the entire Mar-a-Lago raid was part of a cover-up combined with a setup? Thanks to the exceptional reporting by independent journalist @julie_kelly2, we now know this scenario is more likely than not. It’s a chilling reality.

Democrats were desperate to ascertain whether Trump had kept a copy of the Crossfire Hurricane binders. Trump believed he had declassified them, but the DOJ maintained they required further review and redactions before release. Three years later, the DOJ still hasn't released them. Knowing that Trump felt entitled to retain a copy, they suspected he and his associates might have done so. The Democrats needed a pretext to reclaim the binders. The White House met with Jay Bratt, one of the original Crossfire Hurricane investigators, around the same time they pressured the GSA to send four to six pallets of Trump’s presidential records from a Virginia warehouse to Mar-a-Lago. This created the perfect opportunity to infiltrate Trump’s private estate and prosecute him for illegally retaining classified documents. Jay Bratt is now Jack Smith's top prosecutor.
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Very long X thread.
https://tinyurl.com/98na5dd6

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (ZdexC)

49 FBI: Spying and Crapping on the US Constitution and American Citizens since 1908.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD.

Founded by a Bonaparte.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (v6JzV)

50 Were the FBI going to shoot the secret service agents at Mar Lago if they had been prevented entrance? Or just anybody named Trump?
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Yes, they were willing to get into a gunfight with the Secret Service.

They even had a medic on standby just in case.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (ukLwM)

51 > Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?

Did y'all see the video of the ATF staging their raid before going after Bryan Malinowski? TEN FREAKING CARLOADS full of agents went after a guy with no priors. He wasn't a gang member. He didn't commit any violent crimes.

Oh, and nobody had their cameras on, even the local ride along cops were dark.

That's a hit squad, not a LEO operation.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (Odg76)

52 27 It wasn't boilerplate. Nor is it SOP for the FBI to serve a warrant in plainclothes like that.

Secret Service was deliberately baited into doing something stupid.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 28, 2024 02:23 PM (HVx/y)

Yeah, that's the part that's much less explainable. Unless they WANTED guns ablazing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

53 Probably every Federal agency with a police force has a "boilerplate" order for use of lethal force.

So the Feds have literally authorized themselves to kill anyone.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (2fIO4)

54 FBI: Spying and Crapping on the US Constitution and American Citizens since 1908. FBI=NKVD, change my mind...you won't.
Posted by: Ganowicz

I didn't now the FBI was begun in 1908 by an order of the AG.
This is obviously another case of Administrative Law as the FBI wasn't authorized by Congress.
Hamburger was right! Shut it down!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (5J1RI)

55 Calling Jack Smith unprofessional will not go well with the 11th circuit. DOWN SHE GOES! Smith is a master chess player to Cannon's simplistic game of checkers. hopefully, he can get her thrown off the case.

Any appeal in favor of the prosecution would be appealed to the SCOTUS. Just more delays for the same outcome.

Hopefully, no federal agent will get hurt by her failure to issue a gag order. But if one is killed or injured, Cannon will have blood on her hands and robes.

I doubt she'd care. She's there to protect one person, not to be an actual judge or even act like a decent human being.

she was only confirmed after TFG lost the election and uncle Mitch was confirming judges as quickly as humanly possible. This lady is not judge material...she is in way over head head and she is just a political hack.

Funny how every drumpf appeal take months of delays and hearings, but smith asks for something and suddenly she can rule the next business day. Amazing coincidence.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

56 Is it? Has someone who sees a lot of these orders confirmed that?

Dan Bongino, who was involved with a raid or two while in the Secret Service, said it's absolutely not standard practice.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (2ocoG)

57 Someone should gag Jack Smith with a Bag O' Dicks.

Tell him to open wide and shove them right up in there.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (od9zZ)

58 Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

I look at it from a different perspective: should SOP be followed in a case where the subject is a freaking ex-president?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

59 They're claiming that Trump's remarks may endanger law enforcement officials... um, what authority does a prosecutor have to stop speech he doesn't like?

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I'm going to go with - they can kill you and get away with it, assuming they can pick the judge.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (lTGtQ)

60 55 Calling Jack Smith unprofessional will not go well with the 11th circuit. DOWN SHE GOES! Smith is a master chess player to Cannon's simplistic game of checkers. hopefully, he can get her thrown off the case.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (JCZqz)

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Why does he keep losing, then?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

61 32 "What exactly would the ATF provide as a service if they can't execute family pets?"

Then everyone wants to get teary eyed on Facebook when a cop dog gets killed. Piss off.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:24 PM (Ectld)

All dogs are equal; some are more equal that others.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

62 In here for when the retards still whining about how their dude lost in the primaries jump over to this thread.

Perhaps by sheer willpower, you'll change the past!

Posted by: Conservacucks at May 28, 2024 02:28 PM (PJaTp)

63 ace, I like how you were able to slide in some Trump criticism in this post, because otherwise people might think you were in a cult!

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 02:28 PM (xhfG9)

64 "Smith is a master chess player to Cannon's simplistic game of checkers."

Usually playing it simple and straight in a rigged game is a good idea. Just make sure you play with a ball bat under the table.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:28 PM (iFMeW)

65 C'mon man, those are regular ham and egger eff bee eye guys!
Top. Men!
Posted by: A dude in MI at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (/6GbT)

You're a Great American!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at May 28, 2024 02:28 PM (f87vz)

66 "Sounds like those FBI TV shows aren't working."

I smell a conspiracy here, somewhere

Posted by: Fox Mulder, FBI Agent at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (PJaTp)

67 Even if these claims are "baseless" -- and they're not; they're true (if misleading)

The left often underplays this sort of shit but plenty of people have been SWATed because of this. It isn't misleading.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (ibTVg)

68 I don't know Smith seems a pretty professional member of the Gestapo.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (JLq/1)

69 but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant.

I think it would have ended badly for the FBI.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (lXCUP)

70 So the Feds have literally authorized themselves to kill anyone.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 28, 2024 02:26 PM (2fIO4)

There are no limits in protecting 'the precious democracy '
Comrade.

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (/6GbT)

71 "Yes, they were willing to get into a gunfight with the Secret Service"
*********
It's almost a shame that didn't happen.

Posted by: Cosda at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (p1lqb)

72 Secret Service has met with local jail officials in NY to discuss preparations for President Trump to go behind bars - CBS

Going to be interesting to see how that works out.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 28, 2024 02:29 PM (ukLwM)

73 ace, I like how you were able to slide in some Trump criticism in this post, because otherwise people might think you were in a cult!

Posted by: blaster

I'm still waiting for the orange robes he promised us.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (v6JzV)

74 45 But little Bobbie DeNiro is MAD

Posted by: Zeera , becoming ungovernable by choice at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (YoS4M)

Well, an elevator smells different to Bobbie de Nero.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

75 47 C'mon man, those are regular ham and egger eff bee eye guys!
Top. Men!

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 28, 2024 02:25 PM (/6GbT)

eff bee eye...
Bukake by another name.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

76 It's not the severity of the response to Trump, it's the weight of the accusations.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (A9nA9)

77 Secret Service has met with local jail officials in NY to discuss preparations for President Trump to go behind bars - CBS

We all know the fix is in, but CBS is ahead of themselves a bit I think.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (rVgtT)

78 72 Secret Service has met with local jail officials in NY to discuss preparations for President Trump to go behind bars - CBS

Go to jail for a crime they can't even tell the Jury he did ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (Akjoo)

79 Is it any better optics saying it's "SOP"??? So the FIB can shoot to kill on any warrant for any reason??? How is that better optics for the FIB? It makes them look like the SS.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (a5Jsm)

80 Were the FBI going to shoot the secret service agents at Mar Lago if they had been prevented entrance? Or just anybody named Trump?

Posted by: Cosda

Well, the hope was to kill Trump, but if that failed, they could blame the gunfight on him.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (lTGtQ)

81 Why does he keep losing, then?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28,

15D chess baby, he's just luring her into his trap.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (CIS44)

82 > The left often underplays this sort of shit but plenty of people have been SWATed because of this. It isn't misleading.

How many times has MTG been SWATed now? I'm pretty sure the count is in double digits.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (Odg76)

83 They're claiming that Trump's remarks may endanger law enforcement officials... um, what authority does a prosecutor have to stop speech he doesn't like?
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Plenty of violence against cops in 2020.

I guess it's fallen out of vogue ¯\_(:/)_/¯

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (krQz2)

84 Secret Service has met with local jail officials in NY to discuss preparations for President Trump to go behind bars - CBS

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Man, that's going to hurt him with the black demographic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - minus religion, name one benefit for men getting married at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (uei2D)

85 It would be a good thing if Smith would spontaneously burst into flame.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (JLq/1)

86 Man, that's going to hurt him with the black demographic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - minus religion, name one benefit for men getting married at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (uei2D)

But his rap career will be off to a roaring start.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

87 As Julie Kelly said, there is no "Standard Procedure" for executing a search warrant at a former President's home because it has never been done and for obvious reasons. So the whole "We do this all the time" trope is just a big pile of BS.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (zdYK9)

88 To Bobby DeNiro

May you be named cinematographer on the next Alec Baldwin movie

Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at May 28, 2024 02:32 PM (A9nA9)

89 How many times has MTG been SWATed now? I'm pretty sure the count is in double digits.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:31 PM (Odg76)
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Tim Pool is over 10, I believe.

Cops: "You mean that same address we've been to 10 times, where nothing was happening? We're on it."

It's Trump's fault, he didn't even try to fix policing.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (krQz2)

90 It was known Trump wasn't at home at the time of the raid. They weren't trying to kill him.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (Ectld)

91 If they put him in jail, Trump will be crowned king of Rikers Island inside of 48 hours.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (u73oe)

92 I'm still waiting for the orange robes he promised us.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (v6JzV)

It's Willer Time!

https://tinyurl.com/yc6kyztk

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (od9zZ)

93 May you be named cinematographer on the next Alec Baldwin movie
Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent

When does Alec's trial start?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (v6JzV)

94 "It's a possibility that officials in state and federal agencies have begun preparing for, according to a New York corrections source, who said the Secret Service has met with local jail officials. As a former president, Trump is entitled to Secret Service protection for the rest of his life, wherever he happens to be. Behind bars, corrections officers would in turn be responsible for protecting those agents assigned to Trump."

https://tinyurl.com/nhde6nhy

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (ukLwM)

95
It's Trump's fault, he didn't even try to fix policing.
Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (krQz2)

He's stupid and surrounds himself with other stupids.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

96 Is it any better optics saying it's "SOP"??? So the FIB can shoot to kill on any warrant for any reason??? How is that better optics for the FIB? It makes them look like the SS.
Posted by: lin-duh at

I mean, look at that 80 some year old man they killled in Utah cause they came to his door at 3am, cause he said some mean words about 'Dear Leader'

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (CIS44)

97 I hope Trump becomes the first US President with a neck tattoo.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (VoAdT)

98 I think there is too much focus on words and not on actions. Even if deadly force is standard language for a home raid that is even more reason why it should never have happened.

The left has tried for years to make Trump somehow less worthy than anyone else who has held the office and therefore fair game. I don't remember voting for him be President Light. I voted for him to be the complete package and we do not raid the home of former presidents.

When Biden finally admitted he stole, yes stole, documents from a SCIF in the Senate that he never had any right to take and kept them unsecured for decades he was allowed to negotiate a search with his lawyers present. Trump had the right to have those documents as a former POTUS.

If Trump had sent the FBI to raid Obama's house Democrats would have burned the country to the ground and everyone knows it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (LkLld)

99 It was known Trump wasn't at home at the time of the raid. They weren't trying to kill him.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (Ectld)

Duh. Of course they knew. That's what the wiretaps are for.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (A9nA9)

100 In a just world, Mr. Smith would be gagged by his own lies.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (ahKaX)

101 90 It was known Trump wasn't at home at the time of the raid. They weren't trying to kill him.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 28, 2024 02:33 PM (Ectld)

But wouldn't stop them from shooting his lawyers who were present. See, that would send a message, no?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (ynpvh)

102 We all know the fix is in, but CBS is ahead of themselves a bit I think.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2024 02:30 PM (rVgtT)
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That's See-BS for you.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (krQz2)

103 Are we to understand that Trump will be permitted to speak DURING PRIDE MONTH? That would be a direct attack on Our Democracy, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Eeyore at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (1bNHn)

104 Jack Smith was chosen for the Trump case BECAUSE he is a political assassin.

I keep reminding people that he was at the Obama Justice Department and indicted a hugely popular Republican governor (He beat his Democrat opponent by 30 points. Thir. Ty.), one who had been talked about as a possible Republican candidate against Obama. In the aftermath, the Republicans lost to Terry McAuliffe by .1% (there are lots of reasons for that, Republicans shooting themselves in the foot certainly a part of it but all of it in the disarray after the felony indictment). Smith convicted the Governor of a Federal felony.

This conviction was overturned unanimously by SCOTUS based on this: what he had been convicted of was not actually a crime. (please note all the commentary about NY Trump trial and the lack of an underlying crime).

No matter. Smith paid no price, while Governor McDonnell was out of politics, out of $27M, and his marriage ended.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (xhfG9)

105 Too late!

Posted by: Jack S. at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (A9nA9)

106 The NYT has an article that Trump will be mad "even if" he wins the current cases he is faced with.

And...this is comical. Take any person found innocent of a crime. Do you think they would be...angry?...about having their time and money wasted and facing a real chance of prison time for a crime they didn't commit?

Of course the real story here is the left worries that as President Trump will use the same laws and precedents used against him...against the people that went after him.

Well sorry assholes if you didn't want to play the banana Republic game maybe you should have started playing the banana Republic game

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (ibTVg)

107 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."BedpanFellas".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (od9zZ)

108 Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 3h
It would be hard to count the number of times in Judge Cannon has admonished special counsel for breaking the rules, citing vague claims of "threats" and "harassment," and just bad behavior in general.

She told one prosecutor last week to "calm down."

Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 3h
BREAKING: Judge Cannon, as expected, denies Jack Smith's proposed gag order, warns sanctions could be next if he keeps violating the rules.

Unauthorized Narrative @mgEyesOpen 2h
Jack Smith’s proposed gag order was a completely political maneuver to combat negative press on the lethal force authorization. Judge Cannon saw right through it and isn’t thrilled about her court being used for these kinds of games.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 02:37 PM (ZdexC)

109 Trump resurfaces with a beard and a neck tattoo its game over.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 02:37 PM (Z8Yh2)

110 Tyvek jumpsuit or it’s all for nothing.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 28, 2024 02:37 PM (WaSjm)

111 I keep reminding people that he was at the Obama Justice Department and indicted a hugely popular Republican governor (He beat his Democrat opponent by 30 points. Thir. Ty.), one who had been talked about as a possible Republican candidate against Obama

They also destroyed Petraus when he was seen as a potential challenger to Obama. Notice they threatened him with a long prison term for a nothing burger. And when he stepped away from politics notice it mostly went away. After his reputation was destroyed of course.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:37 PM (ibTVg)

112 Senator Tammy Baldwin accused of criminally laundering $27,850,750 into her campaigns since 2017, including the current one. She is committing illegal Smurfing, i.e. structured money laundering.

One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017. This means Sonia – who is in assisted living, as confirmed by her daughter – has made 7.5 contributions per day on average, every day of the year, for 7.5 years. But, Sonia did not make these contributions.

Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (RHGPo)

113 Of course the real story here is the left worries that as President Trump will use the same laws and precedents used against him...against the people that went after him.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (ibTVg)
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And that would be called "reform".

And it would actually be reform.

If anything can hack the head off the DC IC, that would be a good thing for the country.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (krQz2)

114 52 "Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt."

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (HVx/y)

115 Secret Service has met with local jail officials in NY to discuss preparations for President Trump to go behind bars - CBS
Posted by: SMH

I wonder if they'll be allowed to carry weapons?
No guns, no knives, no clubs.
I guess they have to just have shives.
I wonder if they've consulted with Bluebell?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (5J1RI)

116 All you need to do to become a conservative hero is be halfway normal and do your fucking job.

I'm pretty certain there's a lesson there.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (A9nA9)

117 The U.S. is a train track w the Dems actively destroying the ground below it in large sections. All week long super-slo-mo violent destructive train wrecks with the news that dribbles out each day being the reaction to this or that wheel flying off, piece of steel buckling and twisting. All reactionary, nothing reported (because there are none to report) to change anything for the next train barreling down the same busted track or ground beneath it. Pretty futile. Trump will come in, unless the 2024 steal works, and slow the trains again - that's it. Sucks but true.

Posted by: Son of Dad at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (8JB5s)

118 Ace, wasn't it a 9% *inflation* lie (Not "9% interest")?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (wzAuc)

119 Jack Smith has the look of a man who's every residence in the last 30 years should be searched by cadaver sniffing dogs.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Exactly! He looks like a member of a cult who lives in a cave that is adorned by red candles, pentagram, and an altar where he sacrifices small animals. Creepy dude.

Posted by: Cheri at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

120 112 Senator Tammy Baldwin accused of criminally laundering $27,850,750 into her campaigns since 2017, including the current one. She is committing illegal Smurfing, i.e. structured money laundering.

One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017. This means Sonia – who is in assisted living, as confirmed by her daughter – has made 7.5 contributions per day on average, every day of the year, for 7.5 years. But, Sonia did not make these contributions.

Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (RHGPo)

Smurftastic!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (ynpvh)

121 Ace, wasn't it a 9% *inflation* lie (Not "9% interest")?

We've been at double digit inflation since shortly after Biden was installed...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (ibTVg)

122 Ace, wasn't it a 9% *inflation* lie (Not "9% interest")?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (wzAuc)

Biden continues to say that inflation was "9%" when he took office.

But forget it. He's rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

123 But Trump said "pussy."

Posted by: Don't forget at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (39Yzc)

124 118 Ace, wasn't it a 9% *inflation* lie (Not "9% interest")?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (wzAuc)

10%...to the Big Guy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

125 120 112 Senator Tammy Baldwin accused of criminally laundering $27,850,750 into her campaigns since 2017, including the current one. She is committing illegal Smurfing, i.e. structured money laundering.

One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017. This means Sonia – who is in assisted living, as confirmed by her daughter – has made 7.5 contributions per day on average, every day of the year, for 7.5 years. But, Sonia did not make these contributions.

Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2024 02:38 PM (RHGPo)

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This is similar to how it was discovered that ActBlue launders political contributions through low-income people.

I suspect everyone does it. It's bad. The system isn't corrupt. The corruption is the system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

126 Not a "9% interest" lie its a "9% inflation" lie.

It;s hard to keep all the lies straight.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (RIvkX)

127 That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction, and that Trump wasn't home, but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant.

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I'm really, REALLY, unclear how this is a defensible position.

Tee Hee!

Posted by: Janet Reno at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (w9Wax)

128 "They're claiming that Trump's remarks may endanger law enforcement officials."

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When BLM does it, it is just fine.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (i7Q7S)

129 Exactly! He looks like a member of a cult who lives in a cave that is adorned by red candles, pentagram, and an altar where he sacrifices small animals. Creepy dude.

Posted by: Cheri at May 28, 2024 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

I'm thinking more along the lines of "children posted on milk cartons."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

130 I hope Trump becomes the first US President with a neck tattoo.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:34 PM (VoAdT)

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At a minimum, I'd love to see "EL JEFE" tattooed on the knuckles of both his hands.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (k9QnU)

131 One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017.

I forget what conservative org found this but the whole left seems to fund itself this way.

Small individual donations from middle class people but...hundreds a year that add up to way more money then middle class people can afford to spend on politics.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (ibTVg)

132 The system isn't corrupt. The corruption is the system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

Okay Al Pacino

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (A9nA9)

133 Wait guys, we're missing the bigger picture here, such as arguing about why the primaries didn't go the way I thought they should've gone.

Now start arguing about why Nikki Haley ain't no ways tahrd, and why DeSantis is tanned, tested, and ready instead of Mr. Orange Hitler

Posted by: MenTheo at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (PJaTp)

134 Jack Smith dropped the mask and invoked a gag rule.

DeNiro pulled his mask off which provoked a gag reflex.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (991eG)

135 It is my belief that they were actually hoping Barron Trump was home so they could take out the heir to the throne.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

136 131 I forget what conservative org found this but the whole left seems to fund itself this way.

Small individual donations from middle class people but...hundreds a year that add up to way more money then middle class people can afford to spend on politics.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (ibTVg)

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I'd bet real money that WinRed does it too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

137 I cannot believe there is any corruption with these small donations...

Posted by: Doodad Pro at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (ibTVg)

138 Do we have a new troll ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (Akjoo)

139 138 Do we have a new troll ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (Akjoo)

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I'm not new.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

140 "um, what authority does a prosecutor have to stop speech he doesn't like?"

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When you are a Democrat, questions of authority are never answered. Only ignored.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (i7Q7S)

141 138 Do we have a new troll ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (Akjoo)

Dunno. I suppose Trump did that to him, and he's not yet feeling better.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

142 I'm also looking forward to Maxine Waters shrieking "IMPEEEE FOADY-SEBBEN!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (VoAdT)

143 cannot believe there is any corruption with these small donations...
Posted by: Doodad Pro at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (ibTVg

This one always gets me.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (A9nA9)

144
btw, a little background/refresher on booby deniro.

*btw, I think he sucks as an actor and always have, but I digress.

Anyway, remember Charles Grodin? Of course you do. You think of Grodin as a nice guy and deniro as a "street tough" guy, right? Well, the truth is that both grew up in New York, but Grodin grew up poor and was the real city kid, while deniro was the suburban middle-class pussy boy actor.

The point: It's All An Act.

deniro has been pretending all his adult life. He is Nothing like he pretends to be on camera -- even when he's playing deniro on The View.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (pwFdO)

145 I suspect Smith is very familiar with gags of the ball variety.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (JLq/1)

146 But Trump said "pussy."
Posted by: Don't forget
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He could say it on live TV while grabbing one and I'd still crawl over broken glass to vote for him. That is how bad I think the demon-craps are.

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (a5Jsm)

147 142 I'm also looking forward to Maxine Waters shrieking "IMPEEEE FOADY-SEBBEN!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (VoAdT)

Can she count that high?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

148 The system isn't corrupt. The corruption is the system.

The point of the US federal government is to take as much money as possible from the people of the United States for the benefit of the political class and their clients. Anything else the government does really is incidental.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (ibTVg)

149 132 I'm out of order? YOU'RE out of order! THIS WHOLE COURT is out of order!

A great rant

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (HVx/y)

150 Senator Tammy Baldwin accused of criminally laundering $27,850,750 into her campaigns since 2017, including the current one. She is committing illegal Smurfing, i.e. structured money laundering.

One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017. This means Sonia – who is in assisted living, as confirmed by her daughter – has made 7.5 contributions per day on average, every day of the year, for 7.5 years. But, Sonia did not make these contributions.

Posted by: SMOD

Many politicians are doing this. Via credit card. The cartels can't make the contribution directly, and certainly not in the total amount in one go.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (lTGtQ)

151 maybe if judge cannon refuses to put a gag order on trump then judge marchan can do it. see - problem solved

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (B1FKF)

152 If someone could find a way to gently merge Michelle Fields, Rachel Corrie and Doodad Pro into a single joke, it would be difficult to top

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (A9nA9)

153 145 I suspect Smith is very familiar with gags of the ball variety.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (JLq/1)

It's how he likes his tea

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

154 I said this a while ago when the information about the lethal force authorization for Mar a Lago became public: It appears to me the Junta was prepared for a lethal force event and would have gladly traded the lives of a few FBI agents to get the narrative they needed in order to remain in power.

Remember, our government is far worse than we can probably imagine. I mean heck, it's known children are being trafficked into the US across our border. American citizens are being killed, either directly, by illegals, or, indirectly, by all of the fentanyl being smuggled. Yet, the PTB does nothing to secure the border.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (tT6L1)

155 Do we have a new troll ?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 02:42 PM (Akjoo)

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I'm not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaij

You did somewhat recently relocate to a new bridge though.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (CIS44)

156 They also destroyed Petraus when he was seen as a potential challenger to Obama. Notice they threatened him with a long prison term for a nothing burger. And when he stepped away from politics notice it mostly went away. After his reputation was destroyed of course.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:37 PM (ibTVg)
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They bankrupted Flynn over asking Russia not to go overboard in retaliation for Obama kicking out delegates.

The only way that that would have been a "violation of the Logan act" is if the Obama administration's official policy is that Putin should go nuts and double the retaliation. In that case, Flynn could have been said to "interfere" with diplomatic policy.

I doubt that is the case.

If you read the Flynn transcripts it is about 90% "We can talk about this in January" and only one little piece of advice: "Don't go nuts on retaliation, we'll talk about this in January".

Remember Kislyak is the guy Obama set up a meeting with for Trump's nominated AG. Most likely the Obama administration had recruited Kislyak to keep calling Flynn about "preparation" for Flynn's role as NSA head.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (krQz2)

157 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."BedpanFellas".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

I had to laugh at the audacity/stupidity of DeNiro outside court. He walked around with his entourage like he was a badass but then had to retreat back into the SUV while being called a mook, C*nt, traitor, etc. I guess he was expecting adoring crowds to listen to the great political oracle from a past his sell date actor.

Posted by: Cheri at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (oiNtH)

158 If someone could find a way to gently merge Michelle Fields, Rachel Corrie and Doodad Pro into a single joke, it would be difficult to top

Armed and ready!

Posted by: Some Moron at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ibTVg)

159 155 You did somewhat recently relocate to a new bridge though.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (CIS44)

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This is libel!

I am a hill troll, not a bridge troll. Bridge trolls are declasse and have poor manners.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (GBKbO)

160 152 If someone could find a way to gently merge Michelle Fields, Rachel Corrie and Doodad Pro into a single joke, it would be difficult to top

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (A9nA9)

What if they walked into a bar?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

161 *btw, I think he sucks as an actor and always have, but I digress.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Even in Godfather II?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (v6JzV)

162 106 ...
Of course the real story here is the left worries that as President Trump will use the same laws and precedents used against him...against the people that went after him.

Well sorry assholes if you didn't want to play the banana Republic game maybe you should have started playing the banana Republic game
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:36 PM (ibTVg)
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I'm guessing I'm not alone in wishing that would happen.

But I'm afraid it won't.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (1bNHn)

163
You did somewhat recently relocate to a new bridge though.
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (CIS44)

AND has a new kitchen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

164 She is committing illegal Smurfing, i.e. structured money laundering.

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Out: Macedonian Content Farmers.
In: Chinese & Russian AI SmurfBots.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (k9QnU)

165 "Can she count that high?"

Uh couss I can count dat high, u rayciss!

Posted by: Maxine, IQ Certainly Over 10 at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (PJaTp)

166 Smith reminds me of Reinhardt Heydrich-seriously.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 28, 2024 02:46 PM (JLq/1)

167 What do y'all think about the Mike Tyson v Jake Paul fight?

Obviously, the Mike Tyson we all remember would put Paul down in the first round. But that was 20+ years ago. 2005 Mike Tyson was on the downward slope. There's a 30 year age gap. That's a big deal.

I don't know. Paul's technique is mediocre, but I watched Tyson doing some pad work recently and the video was all cut to hell. Even despite that, I could see his power was gone.

Maybe I'm a chump, but I think the guy with 30 years more on the clock is in for a hard time.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 02:46 PM (Odg76)

168 One specific example is Baldwin using the name of a real person called Sonia (so are many other liberals using this same person), where Sonia has been making 69,433 contributions since 2017.

I forget what conservative org found this but the whole left seems to fund itself this way.

Small individual donations from middle class people but...hundreds a year that add up to way more money then middle class people can afford to spend on politics.

Posted by: 18-1

It goes back to 2008 at least. Remember when all you heard was that so many little people donated small amounts, which proved how popular the candidate was? Projection.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:46 PM (lTGtQ)

169 The point of the US federal government is to take as much money as possible from the people of the United States for the benefit of the political class and their clients. Anything else the government does really is incidental.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (ibTVg)
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The point of Congress these days seems to be to join the club of the elite 500 insider traders.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:46 PM (krQz2)

170 163 AND has a new kitchen.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

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Still no hood over the stove, though. Last thing, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

171 I'm not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju

But I have it on good authority that you are an asshole.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

172 I'm guessing I'm not alone in wishing that would happen.

But I'm afraid it won't.

I didn't want Trump in the primaries because I feared he just hasn't gotten the message yet as to what time it really is but...the left is really, really being incident on making sure he gets it.

Let's hope he has learned...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (ibTVg)

173 Mollie @MZHemingway
REMINDER: Even senior FBI agents thought the plan from Biden's AG to use heavily armed agents to raid Mar-A-Lago was absolutely insane.

https://tinyurl.com/58sukdwj
screencap

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (ZdexC)

174 171 I'm not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju

But I have it on good authority that you are an asshole.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

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Yeah, from me! I'm the authority!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

175 Is it any better optics saying it's "SOP"??? So the FIB can shoot to kill on any warrant for any reason??? How is that better optics for the FIB? It makes them look like the SS.
Posted by: lin-duh

There seems to be two choices.

1) The FIB are the deep state's authorized death squad, permitted to kill anyone and everyone, including other federal agents, and the former President and his friends, family, and employees.

B) The lawyers insist on this "boilerplate" for every warrant. But now that it's known that it's "boilerplate" and not really an authorization to kill, it's become meaningless on every warrant it's applied to, both past and future. And any FIB agent who kills anyone should get the full George Floyd Show Trial treatment, with conviction on every count.

Posted by: mikeski at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (DgGvY)

176 The ATF is involved with a recent application of deadly force in the dynamic entry of the home of a man who happened to be the manager of the airport in Little Rock Arkansas. This fellow attended gun shows and sold the occasional firearm there. The ATF decided he was a dealer and needed an FFL. The problem? They didn't tell him. They just showed up with 20 guys in plain clothes at 6am and kicked his door down. So the man blazed at them inside his home and you can guess how that turned out. Very little publicity about this poor fellow.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (MeG8a)

177 But I have it on good authority that you are an asshole.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

Not in my purview.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

178 I bet Bob is having second thoughts about his little speech today.

@joma_gc

🚨Robert Deniro runs into his vehicle terrified as he’s chased down and heckled by Trump supporters.

bad language warning

https://tinyurl.com/3mhk8zc8

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (LkLld)

179
Even in Godfather II?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I don't like the Young Vito parts of Godfather Part II.
The Godfather is all I need.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (pwFdO)

180 I'm not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju

This pratt? Yeah he's been around for a while.

Posted by: The British burning down the White House at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (ibTVg)

181 I'm really, REALLY, unclear how this is a defensible position.

Could someone please explain to me that, assuming this is true, the FBI having standard procedure to include permission to shoot to kill on executing all warrants is something we should be okay with?
---
The FBI agents just want to make it home each night.
No matter how many people they have to shoot in the back to get there.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (/XMEj)

182 172 I didn't want Trump in the primaries because I feared he just hasn't gotten the message yet as to what time it really is but...the left is really, really being incident on making sure he gets it.

Let's hope he has learned...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (ibTVg)

=======

He shut down the government for about three weeks over a budget battle in his first term. Most people forget that (I forgot it until Joe Mannix reminded me).

Maybe he can shut it down for...a year?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

183 "The point of Congress these days seems to be to join the club of the elite 500 insider traders."

Excuse me, it's in the Constitution that Congress is allowed to circumvent the laws of the working class, for your own safety of course.

Posted by: Nancy "At Least I've Got A Rack" Pelosi at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (PJaTp)

184 Maybe I'm a chump, but I think the guy with 30 years more on the clock is in for a hard time.

--

I don't keep up with boxing, but I wouldn't bet against the similar level but 30 years younger guy in golf, much less an event where there's speed, reaction time, and overall strength and endurance involved.

That said, the fix might be in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - minus religion, name one benefit for men getting married at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (uei2D)

185
Raging Bull?

Terrible. Boring garbage.

Who know who else is a little pussy? Marty Scorcese. Probably a fag, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 02:49 PM (pwFdO)

186 That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction, and that Trump wasn't home, but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant.
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It would be better if it *had* been special, and *had* been just for Trump.

That deadly force is authorized by default for federal warrants doesn't exactly induce feelings of warmth and security.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (d04cU)

187 I think the document raid at Mar-a-Lago was fabricated horseshit.

There is (or was) documentation Trump was permitted to hold that is (or was because it's likely been destroyed) very damning to the junta. Trump likely did not see "everything" during his administration, but I'm willing to bet a case was being made to bring a number of people to heel. Notable people. And he held the evidence. (Or rather did.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (Q4IgG)

188 "but it is true that they had permission to shoot to kill if they encountered resistance in executing the warrant."

FBI: We're here to serve a search warrant.

Housekeeper in Trump residence at Mara-a-Lago: Ok. But I need to close the door a little to undo the chain.

FBI: They're resisting! Open fire!!

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (82Wko)

189 Those violent MAGAts tried to kill National Treasure Robert DeNiro!

Gasp. The horror.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (VoAdT)

190 The system isn't corrupt. The corruption is the system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

Okay Al Pacino

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:41 PM (A9nA9)

----------------

[Obligatory:] You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order! That man, that sick, crazy, depraved man, raped and beat that woman there, and he'd like to do it again! He *told* me so! It's just a show! It's a show! It's "Let's Make A Deal"! "Let's Make A Deal"! Hey Frank, you wanna "Make A Deal"? I got an insane judge who likes to beat the shit out of women! Whaddya wanna gimme Frank, 3 weeks probation?"

You, you sonofabitch, you! You're supposed to *stand* for somethin'! You're supposed to protect people! But instead you fuck and murder them!

You killed McCullough! You killed him! Hold it! Hold it! I just completed my opening statement!

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (k9QnU)

191 The judge overseeing the criminal case against Donald Trump for hoarding classified documents
++++
Never change, Politco.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (d04cU)

192 He shut down the government for about three weeks over a budget battle in his first term. Most people forget that (I forgot it until Joe Mannix reminded me).

Maybe he can shut it down for...a year?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

Those are rookie numbers!

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (CIS44)

193 Julie Kelly said it best, I think.

Why is it not shameful that it was "SOP" when it it took unsealing documents that the FIB really, really objected to making public and a FOIA to get this information?

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (krQz2)

194 I'm also looking forward to Maxine Waters shrieking "IMPEEEE FOADY-SEBBEN!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (VoAdT)

I get her confused with Zombie James Brown

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (NtVYv)

195 Maybe he can shut it down for...a year?

I suggested he send the IRS home if congress didn't fund his wall. The reasoning here is that the money he wanted was small anyway, and the IRS doesn't even need to collect income taxes based on the amount we are borrowing anyway.

But the real threat is if you stop collecting personal income taxes for 4 years they aren't coming back.

And there a large number of things like this someone could do if they were motivated to stop leviathan. Remember the left needs uncle sugar ...not us.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (ibTVg)

196 160 152 If someone could find a way to gently merge Michelle Fields, Rachel Corrie and Doodad Pro into a single joke, it would be difficult to top

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:44 PM (A9nA9)

What if they walked into a bar?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

How about, to ladies walk into a pancake house full of one armed bandits in Nevada and announce, "We're here to go pro, get your doodads here!"

I guess you had to be there.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (vivhj)

197 updating name field

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Except for religious obedience, name one benefit marriage provides to men at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (uei2D)

198 I'm not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju

But I have it on good authority that you are an asshole.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

Yeah, from me! I'm the authority!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

You don't get it

Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (v6Olo)

199 198 Yeah, from me! I'm the authority!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

You don't get it
Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (v6Olo)

======

I am the Amy Schumer of Ben Roethlisbergers, it's true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

200 that the FBI thought nothing of leaving an authorization for lethal force in a warrant for the residence of a former president should bother everyone.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

That, the plain clothes order, and don't display police equipment were clearly intended to create a shootout between the SS and people executing the search warrant.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2024 02:52 PM (cOq4q)

201 "IMPEEEE FOADY-SEBBEN!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:43 PM (VoAdT)

I get her confused with Zombie James Brown
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 28, 2024 02:51 PM (NtVYv)

Or Lebron James in The Decision.

Not fy. Not Sic. Not Sebben.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

202 Prosecutors have indicated they needed to move quickly with the gag request because of a series of inflammatory public statements by Trump claiming that FBI officials had given the OK to kill him during the court-ordered raid at Mar-a-Lago in May 2022. The claim stems from the inclusion of a policy on use of deadly force included in the operations plan given to agents prior to the search.
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1. They authorized deadly force in the raid.
2. Trump publicly mentioned his dissatisfaction over the fact that they authorized deadly force in the raid.
3. Upon examination, Trump was correct in his assessment of the facts (deadly force was authorized) and stated his opinion on it (it displeased him).
4. Since Trump mentioned a factual matter, and the facts of the matter don't look good for the Party, Trump must be silenced.

Perfect.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (d04cU)

203 Were there shoot to kill orders in the warrants on Biden?

Triage personal on-site?

Routes to the nearest hospital mapped out and briefed to agents?

Fully automatic assault weapons issued?

All as part of this "standard language" in every search warrant?

The Biden case is closed, so show us the _original_ warrants.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (/XMEj)

204 You think I'm funny?

How's yous like my pesci impression. Bam now my Pacino...whhhooooyahh.

Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (OiAR7)

205 >>And he held the evidence. (Or rather did.)

What if he still has it?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (LkLld)

206 Musta missed the meme: What the heck is a Doodad Pro?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (T+Iwg)

207 He shut down the government for about three weeks over a budget battle in his first term. Most people forget that (I forgot it until Joe Mannix reminded me).

Maybe he can shut it down for...a year?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)
++++
A solid 48 months would put us on pretty good fiscal footing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (d04cU)

208
Charles Grodin always thought it was funny that he and deniro ended up playing characters opposite of their true nature.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (pwFdO)

209 B) The lawyers insist on this "boilerplate" for every warrant. But now that it's known that it's "boilerplate" and not really an authorization to kill, it's become meaningless on every warrant it's applied to, both past and future. And any FIB agent who kills anyone should get the full George Floyd Show Trial treatment, with conviction on every count.
Posted by: mikeski

Couple of things: pedantic, but, it's not on the warrant. The policy statement a separate document.

Two, is anyone seriously arguing that the exact same instructions were listed on the documents investigation at Biden's residences? No one is arguing that, right? Gee, I wonder if it isn't standard then.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (IG4Id)

210 I don't like the Young Vito parts of Godfather Part II.
The Godfather is all I need.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Not me. I think it's well done, and that DeNiro was great in the role.

Better than the Fredo/Cuba stuff. Though I did like the Hyman Roth character.

But Frank Pantangeli, yech. What a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (v6JzV)

211 Charles Grodin always thought it was funny that he and deniro ended up playing characters opposite of their true nature.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I love that movie

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (CIS44)

212 How you like my orthopedic clogs?

Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (OiAR7)

213 I think the document raid at Mar-a-Lago was fabricated horseshit.

There is (or was) docu
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (Q4IgG)
---
NARA was demanding that Trump could not keep a personal letter from Barak Obama directly to Trump that he left sitting on the Oval Office desk when Obama left office.

In addition, it is known that NARA called Trump's people saying they had a skid load of boxes that Trump had not taken yet, and he'd better get his people to pick them up.

It is suspected that this was part of the setup to ensure that Trump had some classified papers when he was raided.

But Trump can't hire any more competent help than would get caught up in a frame job!

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:55 PM (krQz2)

214 Musta missed the meme: What the heck is a Doodad Pro?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 28, 2024 02:53 PM (T+Iwg)

Doodad Pro is the Big Penguin of Gas Station Guys

Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 02:55 PM (v6Olo)

215 Frankly, shutting down the federal government for a long period of time is likely the only way to prevent a default at this point.

It will impose a federal spending cut that is not cut in the right places, but it will be a major spending cut.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:55 PM (lTGtQ)

216 "A solid 48 months would put us on pretty good fiscal footing."

I think you mean years

Posted by: Commodore Sterling at May 28, 2024 02:56 PM (PJaTp)

217
Don't talk shit about Frankie Five Angels.

He did right by the Family.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 02:56 PM (pwFdO)

218 This busty blonde hopes to never be the subject of a federal warrant, because she is unsettled by the notion of the state being given orders to murder her during its execution:
http://tiny.cc/znq9yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:56 PM (d04cU)

219 Maybe it’s just me, but if you’re raiding a former presidents house, maybe go above and beyond standard boilerplate.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2024 02:56 PM (u73oe)

220 Doodad Pro is the Big Penguin of Gas Station Guys
Posted by: Doof at May 28

But I thought Big Penguin was the Gas Station Guy of BEN ROETHLISBEGERS

I need a conversion chart.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (CIS44)

221 219 Maybe it’s just me, but if you’re raiding a former presidents house, maybe go above and beyond standard boilerplate.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 28, 2024 02:56 PM (u73oe)

========

Unless it was Grover Cleveland.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

222 Two, is anyone seriously arguing that the exact same instructions were listed on the documents investigation at Biden's residences? No one is arguing that, right? Gee, I wonder if it isn't standard then.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2024 02:54 PM (IG4Id)
++++
It's probably standard.

Trump's treatment was standard (at least). Biden's treatment was not. Of the three standards of "law" in this country, Trump and Biden are at opposite extremes. Biden is subject to Party Law. Trump is subject to Enemy Law. Neither is subject to run-of-the-mill, arbitrary Rube Law.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (d04cU)

223 >>WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.
The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.

https://tinyurl.com/2um24esm

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)

224 Armed and ready!
Posted by: Some Moron at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ibTVg)

LOL

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (A9nA9)

225 Musta missed the meme: What the heck is a Doodad Pro?

In one of Obama's elections he was getting massive overseas donations. The donations were small individually, but massive when looked at as a group.

Americans ARE allowed to contribute if they are overseas, but non-Americans are not. Obama's people turned off address/name validation intentionally, and the names used pointed to it being a massive scam. One of the names used was...Doodad Pro.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (ibTVg)

226 223 >>WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.
The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.

https://tinyurl.com/2um24esm
Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)

=======

Just put the whole thing on the Internet and blame Julian Assange, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

227 Those violent MAGAts tried to kill National Treasure Robert DeNiro!

Gasp. The horror.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 28, 2024 02:50 PM (VoAdT)
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Post mid-80s, Robert DeNiro is more like a National Treasure: Book of Secrets.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (krQz2)

228 I think the document raid at Mar-a-Lago was fabricated horseshit.

---------------

Many believe they were after the Crossfire Hurricane and subsequent documents & evidence of DOJ & FBI criminal acts that Trump apparently possessed.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (5yxRv)

229 Maybe it’s just me, but if you’re raiding a former presidents house, maybe go above and beyond standard boilerplate.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

That would give the impression of legitimacy to Trump, and never forget, he was illegitimately elected, and the 2016 election was stolen.

You can say that on any outlet and not be banned.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (lTGtQ)

230 "That is true. They were so authorized. It's true that this is a routine boilerplate instruction, ..."

if it's so boilerplate, that must mean that it was in the warrants they served on biden over his classified documents, right?

right?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (tQtDb)

231 WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.
The Russia intelligence was included with other documents in a binder that Trump directed the CIA to send to the White House just before he left office so he could declassify materials related to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the 2016 vote, the source said.

https://tinyurl.com/2um24esm
Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)

Funny, since the dossier was proven a fake and Russia only spent $100k on Farcebook ads.......

That's some assistance, boy howdy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

232 218 This busty blonde hopes to never be the subject of a federal warrant, because she is unsettled by the notion of the state being given orders to murder her during its execution:
http://tiny.cc/znq9yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May

Meh. She looks fake. Perhaps if she smiled she would look nice.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 28, 2024 02:59 PM (ZzUF8)

233 Gladiator: What a cannibal says about his friend when his friend eats someone very obnoxious:
"Glad 'e ate 'er!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

234 A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)
---
Trump must of stolen Schiff's notes of all the evidence Schiff saw!

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (krQz2)

235 It will impose a federal spending cut that is not cut in the right places, but it will be a major spending cut.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 02:55 PM (lTGtQ)

Just balance the budget. Not one penny more than the average of the previous three year's tax receipts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (d9fT1)

236 What if they walked into a bar?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

Someone told Rachel to signal the bartender but she couldn't. They they told Doodad to signal the bartender but he couldn't. Then they told Michelle to signal the bartender but she couldn't.

(you know better than to tempt me with these!)

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (A9nA9)

237 235 Just balance the budget. Not one penny more than the average of the previous three year's tax receipts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (d9fT1)

=======

What's a budget?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

238 232 218 This busty blonde hopes to never be the subject of a federal warrant, because she is unsettled by the notion of the state being given orders to murder her during its execution:
http://tiny.cc/znq9yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May

Meh. She looks fake. Perhaps if she smiled she would look nice.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 28, 2024 02:59 PM (ZzUF

Hard to smile in this economy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (ynpvh)

239
Incidentally, as I recall, the raid on MaraLago occurred at dawn, too.

They didn't do that to biden.

They do early morning raids to catch people unawares, and in bed. President Trump's people had been working with the DOJ about the documents and was under the impression they'd arrange a time to retrieve the documents. There was no sense of urgency, whatsoever.

So it was a complete shock when the home was raided one day at dawn by Dozens of agents.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (pwFdO)

240 Seriously Jim I think I might be able to do that with anything. It's like a very specific super power.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (A9nA9)

241 Trump must of stolen Schiff's notes of all the evidence Schiff saw!
Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (krQz2)

Schiff's notes == Contents of Jerry Nadler's shorts

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (N39Ws)

242 234 A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 02:57 PM (LkLld)
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Trump must of stolen Schiff's notes of all the evidence Schiff saw!

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (krQz2)

My, what big eyes he has...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (ynpvh)

243 Just balance the budget. Not one penny more than the average of the previous three year's tax receipts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:00 PM (d9fT1)
++++
To do this, you have to repeal Medicaid.

Good luck with that. This is why I think the game is actually already over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (d04cU)

244 if it's so boilerplate, that must mean that it was in the warrants they served on biden over his classified documents, right?

right?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (tQtDb)

Shut up, they explained.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (xhfG9)

245 Down ballot Democrat candidates aren't talking about the Trump Lawfare Persecution as readily as they once were.

Sherrod Brown has an ad out in Ohio talking about how he worked with Trump to pass a border security law. Maybe its total BS, but Sherrod, the rich commie, is talking up PDJT, not about Stormy Davis.

Jon Testor is talking farming again, as he does only when he runs, and the Laken Riley Act. He is talking about his "independence" and how many GOP friends he has. What he isn't talking about is Trump, or Stormy Davis, or any such litigation.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (3Kyon)

246 No no no.

He gets “Fuck Joe Biden” tatooed on the fleshy part of his right hand palm, exposed whenever he salutes the Marines (and everyone else)

LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (PpROq)

247 This busty blonde hopes to never be the subject of a federal warrant, because she is unsettled by the notion of the state being given orders to murder her during its execution:
http://tiny.cc/znq9yz

Yeah, that is the all-too-familiar "how thick is your wallet?" look.

Would, but could not.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (Q0kLU)

248 Yeah, that is the all-too-familiar "how thick is your wallet?" look.

Would, but could not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (Q0kLU)
++++
"If I had a dollar for every time I've been called unattractive, I'd be attractive."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (d04cU)

249 Sherrod Brown has an ad out in Ohio talking about how he worked with Trump to pass a border security law. Maybe its total BS, but Sherrod, the rich commie, is talking up PDJT, not about Stormy Davis.

Jon Testor is talking farming again, as he does only when he runs, and the Laken Riley Act. He is talking about his "independence" and how many GOP friends he has. What he isn't talking about is Trump, or Stormy Davis, or any such litigation.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at

Bernie Merino (running against Brown) said that at this point he wouldnt be surprised if Brown endorsed Trump. hahah

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (CIS44)

250 243 To do this, you have to repeal Medicaid.

Good luck with that. This is why I think the game is actually already over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (d04cU)

==========

Listen, it doesn't matter that people on Medicaid still go to hospital emergency rooms for routine care, that they don't have better health outcomes than those without any insurance at all, or that it's a massive boondogle, people will die.

Why do you want people to die?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

251 248 We still totally back the blue right?

Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM

You'll be black and blue if you don't.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (+oR7L)

252 Many believe they were after the Crossfire Hurricane and subsequent documents & evidence of DOJ & FBI criminal acts that Trump apparently possessed.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 02:58 PM (5yxRv)
---
The one classified document you can hear him on tape claiming to possess is a document that proves that people like Milley were pushing Trump to go to war with Iran.

And I think Trump kept it because right before it came out that Trump was showing this document Milley was trying to claim that Trump was so crazy/incompetent that he was pushing to go to war with Iran.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (krQz2)

253 248 We still totally back the blue right?

Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM (Y6Wgg)

Yes, we're so beat up we're totally black and blue.
What? That's not what you meant?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (ynpvh)

254 We still totally back the blue right?

Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM
---
You're skill for needless dichotomy seems unparalleled.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (krQz2)

255 To do this, you have to repeal Medicaid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (d04cU)

Cut a bunch of departments. That would help a bit. Then crack down on Medicaid fraud, which is rampant and, I would guess, is about half of its total cost.

Then free up health insurance so it can be sold across state lines.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (d9fT1)

256 254 248 We still totally back the blue right?

Yes... Most of them.. At least the ones I know

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (Akjoo)

257 Posted by: Frank Barone at May 28, 2024 03:03 PM (+oR7L)

::: fistbump :::

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (ynpvh)

258 256 Then free up health insurance so it can be sold across state lines.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (d9fT1)

========

Alternate proposal:

Make it illegal for health insurance to cover routine care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (GBKbO)

259 Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:02 PM

Goodbye.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (d9fT1)

260 WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.
===============
Junta, please stop the obvious bullshit. You're boring everyone. Come up with something new.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (3Kyon)

261 Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley

@JonathanTurley
...Merchan seems to have kept the defense in a small neighborhood while allowing the prosecutors to go globe trotting with prejudicial and, in my view, improper references.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (NpAcC)

262 Congress hasn’t passed a budget (deficit borrowed or not) since what, 2008?

They call them “Reconciliation” bills. Or “spending packages” or “continuing resolutions”.

They borrow money from China, to give to Ukraine, in your name. Something like that.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (PpROq)

263 >>Trump must of stolen Schiff's notes of all the evidence Schiff saw!

According to Kash Patel who was tasked with getting all of the information declassified that binder is a roadmap of exactly how the intel community concocted the Russia hoax.

I think they just might kill to keep that from ever going public.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (LkLld)

264 You're skill for needless dichotomy seems unparalleled.
Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (krQz2)

Montec is on a bender. Let him do his thing.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (A9nA9)

265 256 To do this, you have to repeal Medicaid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:01 PM (d04cU)

Cut a bunch of departments. That would help a bit. Then crack down on Medicaid fraud, which is rampant and, I would guess, is about half of its total cost.

Then free up health insurance so it can be sold across state lines.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (d9fT1)

Ah, the Milei way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

266 Cut a bunch of departments. That would help a bit. Then crack down on Medicaid fraud, which is rampant and, I would guess, is about half of its total cost.

Then free up health insurance so it can be sold across state lines.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (d9fT1)
++++
I misspoke, and apologies. I used the wrong word.

You would have to repeal *Medicare.* And Medicaid (the Federal part of it, anyway). All of CMS. Containing fraud isn't enough.

With CMS, the budget cannot be balanced.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (d04cU)

267 Are we to understand that Trump will be permitted to speak DURING PRIDE MONTH? That would be a direct attack on Our Democracy, wouldn't it?

The Pope just said there's "excessive faggotry" in Catholic seminaries and it's almost pride month. That can't be good.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (2ocoG)

268 Ah, there it is. It was pretty obvious where that was going.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (A9nA9)

269 With CMS, the budget cannot be balanced.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at M

Just get those Cirque De Soleil people on it!

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (CIS44)

270 I think what the deadly force provisions do is allow the FIB to swing automatic weapons around in people's faces and yell at people.

I think they like that a lot.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (krQz2)

271 269 The Pope just said there's "excessive faggotry" in Catholic seminaries and it's almost pride month. That can't be good.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (2ocoG)

=======

Theory:

Francis is forced to step down within the next 3 weeks.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

272 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."Hands Free Catheter Street".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (od9zZ)

273 Funniest and saddest part is that some here still trust the FBI.

Sigh.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (Z8Yh2)

274 Study says "trans men" are going postmenopausal in their 20s: "95 per cent developed pelvic floor dysfunction"

https://shorturl.at/yqW5bf

-
Well, I'm no doctorologist but that sounds kinda bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (L/fGl)

275 @JonathanTurley
...Merchan seems to have kept the defense in a small neighborhood while allowing the prosecutors to go globe trotting with prejudicial and, in my view, improper references.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 28, 2024 03:05 PM (NpAcC)

And ? All to plan Jonathon

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (Akjoo)

276 I'll keep pointing it out:

The sentiment among more and more blacks is, "they're treating Trump like a black man."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (/XMEj)

277 You must either hate all cops or you support the FBI and it's incredibly overt attempts to destroy the conservative movement in this country.

It's the only way.

And Trump is a poopiehead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

278 279 I'll keep pointing it out:

The sentiment among more and more blacks is, "they're treating Trump like a black man."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (/XMEj)

=======

Are Democrats going to treat black people like white people and allow them to vote for themselves?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO)

279 You're skill for needless dichotomy seems unparalleled.
Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (krQz2)

Montec is on a bender. Let him do his thing.
Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (A9nA9)
---
Trump's incompetent, mkay?

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (krQz2)

280 276 Funniest and saddest part is that some here still trust the FBI.

Not sure that is accurate

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (Akjoo)

281 The conspiracy to end Trump

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (fwDg9)

282 272 With CMS, the budget cannot be balanced.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at M

Just get those Cirque De Soleil people on it!

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (CIS44)

You ask for Cirque de Soleil
You'll settle for Barnum & Bailey
You'lls get Screaming Karens and Trigglypuffs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (ynpvh)

283 Was that "standard provision" in the Biden warrants?

Merrick Garland issued the following statement on that subject:

"Give me that stapler... It is now."

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (CecP5)

284 277 Study says "trans men" are going postmenopausal in their 20s: "95 per cent developed pelvic floor dysfunction" ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (L/fGl)
++++
Would "pelvic floor dysfunction" be a function of lots of buttsecks?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)

285 276 Funniest and saddest part is that some here still trust the FBI.

Sigh.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (Z8Yh2)

I don't trust ANY branch or office of Gov't; it's all corrupt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:09 PM (ynpvh)

286 ++++
Would "pelvic floor dysfunction" be a function of lots of buttsecks?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:08 PM (d04cU)

All of your innards fall out your ass onto the floor.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

287 Then free up health insurance so it can be sold across state lines.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:04 PM (d9fT1)

========

Alternate proposal:

Make it illegal for health insurance to cover routine care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

You'll probably need both of those and even then it might not be enough. Just for the medical aspect.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (lTGtQ)

288
btw, have Any of these "puberty blockers" prescribed to children passed any sort of drug testing rigor?

Of course not.

Show us the studies, FDA.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (pwFdO)

289 277 Study says "trans men" are going postmenopausal in their 20s: "95 per cent developed pelvic floor dysfunction"

https://shorturl.at/yqW5bf

-
Well, I'm no doctorologist but that sounds kinda bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (L/fGl)

Let me see...you cut off female hormones, pump in male hormones, and expect to changes to the girl-bits? LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

290 Yeah, that is the all-too-familiar "how thick is your wallet?" look.
Would, but could not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins

I think that's the point of Joe's babes.

The babes are like a bigger and better house or car, you don't really need them, but, it's nice for some folks to dream now and then

Posted by: old chick at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (F3Dlr)

291 275 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."Hands Free Catheter Street".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (od9zZ

Let's have a talk about reverse mortgages...

Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (OiAR7)

292 no changes. damn fingers

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (ynpvh)

293 Making money hand over fist here.
Got in on the pelvic floor.

Posted by: Sex-change Surgeons at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (w9Wax)

294 Hailstorm at Casa Gref in far SE Houston. First time I've had hail here in I cannot recall how long.

Posted by: Gref at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (5fDan)

295 292 275 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."Hands Free Catheter Street".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (od9zZ

Let's have a talk about reverse mortgages...

Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (OiAR7)

don't forget walk-in baths and Medic-Alert.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)

296 I saw Pelvic Floor Dysfunction open for Steel Eye Span in '79.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

297 I saw Pelvic Floor Disfunction open for Hole at Jiffy Lube Live in 2015

Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (v6Olo)

298 What would an acceptable amount of gay look like in a seminary?

Posted by: asking for a friend at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (gKWVE)

299
don't forget walk-in baths and Medic-Alert.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)

Visiting Angels

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (Akjoo)

300 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.

Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)

301 Heh. Horde mind.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)

302 295 Hailstorm at Casa Gref in far SE Houston. First time I've had hail here in I cannot recall how long.

Posted by: Gref at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (5fDan)

Pea to grape size

Posted by: Gref at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (5fDan)

303 Hailstorm at Casa Gref in far SE Houston. First time I've had hail here in I cannot recall how long.

Posted by: Gref at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (5fDan)

Embrace climate change before it kills us all.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

304 297 I saw Pelvic Floor Dysfunction open for Steel Eye Span in '79.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

298 I saw Pelvic Floor Disfunction open for Hole at Jiffy Lube Live in 2015
Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (v6Olo)

======

So, have they been around for 40 years, or are they two separate bands?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

305 300
don't forget walk-in baths and Medic-Alert.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)

Visiting Angels

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (Akjoo)

Hurri-cane.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (ynpvh)

306 lol you banned me for pointing out Trump is an imbecile who has lost the GOP every election since 2016 and will do so again this year. But it’s all cuz cheating. Haha.

It’s sad what this place has become, a Trump can do no wrong cult.

Eh whatevs. Peace.

Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (Uv4Al)

307 260 WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (Reuters) - A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said.
===============
Junta, please stop the obvious bullshit. You're boring everyone. Come up with something new.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 28, 202

Our alphabet agencies run ops about as well as colonel flag on mash.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (OiAR7)

308 269 The Pope just said there's "excessive faggotry" in Catholic seminaries and it's almost pride month. That can't be good.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 28, 2024 03:06 PM (2ocoG)

All the Pope has to do is tell all the sodomites in the Priesthood or at PriestSkool to get the hell out and stay out.

Same goes with any sodomites in the pews. And any sodomites who want to get married to go fuck theyselves.

Not hard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (od9zZ)

309 Let me see...you cut off female hormones, pump in male hormones, and expect to changes to the girl-bits? LOL
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:10 PM (ynpvh)
++++
Ahh, yes. I read it backwards. "Fransmen" == "fake men" == "women."

So yeah. "It turns out that pharmaceutically inducing menopause accelerates menopause" is something that nobody saw coming.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (d04cU)

310 I have read plenty of "boiler plate" comments. Hence the sad.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (Z8Yh2)

311 275 Bob DeNiro's next movie...."Hands Free Catheter Street".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:07 PM (od9zZ

The Catheterfather

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (NtVYv)

312
Imagine a toddler with a perfectly normal and healthy Endocrine System being prescribed "hormone blockers."

Of course that's going to WREAK HAVOC and result in Irreversible Harm.

This whole stupid "tranny" thing is so easy to argue. We have to stop being pussies about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (pwFdO)

313 305 297 I saw Pelvic Floor Dysfunction open for Steel Eye Span in '79.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

298 I saw Pelvic Floor Disfunction open for Hole at Jiffy Lube Live in 2015
Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (v6Olo)

======

So, have they been around for 40 years, or are they two separate bands?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

Maybe they have lasting power like the Rolling Stones...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (ynpvh)

314 So, have they been around for 40 years, or are they two separate bands?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

What's YOUR problem?

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

315 Yes if only ace would allow opinions against Trump. Boy talk about nailing it.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM (A9nA9)

316 I miss all the good stuff when I'm at work. This line:

"So professional make-up wearer Robert DeNiro tries doing something he's failed at in his last ten movies, injecting drama and drawing an audience."

---

I know some people genuflect before Scorsese and DeNiro, but egad, how many times can they remake the same movie. This most recent one, Goodfellas With Indians, did anybody really like it?

Really?

Tell me you did, and I won't believe you.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

317 301 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)

Yeah.. That's not good

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM (Akjoo)

318 Sigh, another emogency at the Montec residence

Posted by: the waambulance at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (gKWVE)

319 301 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)

Is this legit? It seems like this judge is going for a convict now by hook or crook knowing its gonna get overturned later in a higher court.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (OiAR7)

320 The boilerplate use of force if there is resistance is not unlike certain military operations.

Military has rules of engagement and they cannot just light up some local guy because they bump into you.

Now, when your mission is 'take that hill' -
- no resistance, no shooty,
- resistance, light them up.

Doesn't matter the level of 'resistence', same with the FBI boilerplate. Any level resistance then lethal force is authorized.

Even a locked door, little dog, or woman holding a baby.
All been found sufficient for LEO to light them up.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (cOq4q)

321 It’s sad what this place has become, a Trump can do no wrong cult.

Eh whatevs. Peace.
Posted by: Montec at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (Uv4Al)

Awww...He's taking his ball and going home.

Anyway......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

322 Make Medicaid and food stamps TEMPORARY. Give people a year of support. Then, done.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (ZazkS)

323 318 301 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)

Yeah.. That's not good

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM (Akjoo)

Is that up the the Judge, or are there court rules that govern the order of closing arguments?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

324 I'll come back and show you! I'LL SHOW YOU!!!

Posted by: Montick at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (vFG9F)

325 I saw Pelvic Floor Dysfunction open for Steel Eye Span in '79.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

I saw Pelvic Floor Disfunction open for Hole at Jiffy Lube Live in 2015
Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (v6Olo)

So, have they been around for 40 years, or are they two separate bands?

2015 was their reunion / cash-grab tour

Posted by: Doof at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (v6Olo)

326 George @BehizyTweets 56m
BREAKING: Trump's lawyer just absolutely obliterated Michael Cohen in his closing remarks to the jury

"They say Tom Brady is the GOAT. Michael Cohen is the GLOAT - Greatest Liar of All Time" - Todd Blanche

“He’s literally like an MVP of liars... he lies constantly. He’s lied to Congress, he lied to prosecutors, he lied to his family, business associates.”

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (ZdexC)

327 someone tell Paul that he is not supposed to use Montec's nick

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (D7oie)

328

I know some people genuflect before Scorsese and DeNiro, but egad, how many times can they remake the same movie. This most recent one, Goodfellas With Indians, did anybody really like it?

Really?

Tell me you did, and I won't believe you.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2024 03:13 PM

This is about the Irishman right?

Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (OiAR7)

329 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)
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Merchan does what he can for fresh kangaroos.

But, ultimately, it's Trump's fault because he can't hire anti-railroading lawyers. What an idiot.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (krQz2)

330 If Trump goes to jail, not just booking, sheeeeeit.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (as3uC)

331 You must either hate all cops or you support the FBI and it's incredibly overt attempts to destroy the conservative movement in this country.
It's the only way.
And Trump is a poopiehead. Posted by: Sponge

I think our local sheriff and Highway patrol do a good job and if i ever need assistance I won't hesitate to call either.

Same with our small town nurses and doctors. If I don't trust them I might as well shut up and stay home if I have a medical emergency.

Posted by: old chick at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (F3Dlr)

332 lol you banned me for pointing out Trump is an imbecile who has lost the GOP every election since 2016 and will do so again this year. But it’s all cuz cheating. Haha.

It’s sad what this place has become, a Trump can do no wrong cult.

Eh whatevs. Peace.

Posted by: Montec at
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Must be lonely up there in that cross ....

Still haven't received my orange robe you all keep saying us Trump cultists get ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (/XMEj)

333 And last I checked, no one here ever said Trump never does anything wrong.

He does. And we admit it.

I still struggle with his lack of admitting the vaccine was a HORRIBLE idea to force when knowing there were plenty of other options out there to defeat the virus.

But he's STILL a metric f*ckton better than Biden and I will support him for pres in 2024.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

334 All the Pope has to do is tell all the sodomites in the Priesthood or at PriestSkool to get the hell out and stay out.

Same goes with any sodomites in the pews. And any sodomites who want to get married to go fuck theyselves.

Not hard.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:12 PM (od9zZ)

This Pope is as Catholic as the Republican Party is conservative.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2024 03:17 PM (dGCAG)

335 I wouldn't call tje Eff Bee Eye if I saw a kidnapping

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2024 03:17 PM (fwDg9)

336 This busty blonde hopes to never be the subject of a federal warrant, because she is unsettled by the notion of the state being given orders to murder her during its execution:
http://tiny.cc/znq9yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
......

They'd be nuts to murder her before at least having their way with her first.

Posted by: wth at May 28, 2024 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

337 330 Gorka reporting in the Trump trial that, contrary to "our prescious NORMZZZZ," Merchan is allowing the prosecution's closing argument last -- and not the defense's.
Posted by: ShainS -- Future Secretary of Retribution candidate at May 28, 2024 03:11 PM (D7eA4)
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Merchan does what he can for fresh kangaroos.

But, ultimately, it's Trump's fault because he can't hire anti-railroading lawyers. What an idiot.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (krQz2)

How many of his previous lawyers are NOT being disbarred or being charged in court cases?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

338 334 But he's STILL a metric f*ckton better than Biden and I will support him for pres in 2024.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

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"There was cheating and epic fuckupery, but Trump lost because he was mean to Biden at the first debate. Without that, Democrats wouldn't have been able to cheat as much."

Montec is at a crossroads where he feels like he has to acknowledge the cheat of 2020 but doesn't want it to change his analysis of Trump's weaknesses. The cheat can't matter because Trump isn't very good at politics. It just can't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

339
Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.

We've seen the limits of Tarantino's imagination, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (pwFdO)

340 “He’s literally like an MVP of liars... he lies constantly. He’s lied to Congress, he lied to prosecutors, he lied to his family, business associates.”
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (ZdexC)
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So did he lie about Prague?

That's what troubles me about exaggerating him as a liar too much. It was the first thread to become unraveled in the Steele Tosser that Cohen said he hadn't been to Prague.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (krQz2)

341 332 You must either hate all cops or you support the FBI and it's incredibly overt attempts to destroy the conservative movement in this country.
It's the only way.
And Trump is a poopiehead. Posted by: Sponge

I think our local sheriff and Highway patrol do a good job and if i ever need assistance I won't hesitate to call either.

Same with our small town nurses and doctors. If I don't trust them I might as well shut up and stay home if I have a medical emergency.

Posted by: old chick at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (F3Dlr)

Question I was asked when checking in for my Stress test:
woman: "Are you an organ donor?"
me: "Why, should I worry about the test?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (ynpvh)

342 This is about the Irishman right?
Posted by: Cgi Robert deniro at May 28, 2024 03:15 PM (OiAR7)

You mean Goodfellas With Irishmen

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (dGCAG)

343 Make Medicaid and food stamps TEMPORARY. Give people a year of support. Then, done.
Posted by: nurse ratched
......

Makes sense, so forget it.

Posted by: wth at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (v0R5T)

344 336 I wouldn't call tje Eff Bee Eye if I saw a kidnapping

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2024 03:17 PM (fwDg9)

Not if they're the ones doin' it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (ynpvh)

345 340
Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.

We've seen the limits of Tarantino's imagination, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (pwFdO)

=======

In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

346 340
Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.
We've seen the limits of Tarantino's imagination, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Tanned. Rested. Ready.

Posted by: JarJar Abrams at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (gKWVE)

347 Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.

We've seen the limits of Tarantino's imagination, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (pwFdO)
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Whoah. Killers of the Flower Moon is no way a parallel of Goodfellas.

And it's a pretty good movie, if you can get through all of it.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (krQz2)

348 But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage.

Uh, that ship sailed away a long, long, time ago.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (sAmhv)

349
Still haven't received my orange robe

https://youtu.be/m48xii7ndcg

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (63Dwl)

350 "Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.

We've seen the limits of Tarantino's imagination, too."

Soothsayer Johnson is right!

Posted by: Disgusted at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (Z8Yh2)

351 Is that up the the Judge, or are there court rules that govern the order of closing arguments?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

Why does that even matter? It is what the judge has decided to do. No one can tell him differently.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (xhfG9)

352 339
...

Montec is at a crossroads where he feels like he has to acknowledge the cheat of 2020 but doesn't want it to change his analysis of Trump's weaknesses. The cheat can't matter because Trump isn't very good at politics. It just can't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

Show me another candidate that will win the Rep nomination. Yeah, thought so, I mean, Trump has it sewn up. So we're stuck with Trump like it or not.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (ynpvh)

353 =======

In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

Well, I haven't seen any of them, so there's that.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (T+Iwg)

354 "But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage."

wait ... don't you actually have to have a good reputation in order for it to be damaged ?

Posted by: The Dark Lord at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (DBAaD)

355 Yep, Scorcese makes the same movie, over and over.

**Ed Wood has entered the chat**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (Q0kLU)

356 Whatever anyone says about Tarantino, if they can't admit he wrings absolutely fantastic performances out of people, then we have nothing to discuss.

Scorsese is a talented film maker but I hate most of his movies.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (A9nA9)

357 Here's a question: Is this trial as fucked up as O.J.'s? So far?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (as3uC)

358 But he's STILL a metric f*ckton better than Biden and I will support him for pres in 2024.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

Dude...Exactly.

I am not a Trump fanboi and have caught a huge amount of sh*t from people on this blog about it. But for all of the obvious reasons he is the only choice, and anyone who argues that from a conservative or Republican, or even libertarian perspective is being deeply disingenuous.

Donald Trump is my candidate, and I will do everything I can to get him elected.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (d9fT1)

359 In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

Hugo and the Aviator are good

Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (Akjoo)

360 349 But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage.

Uh, that ship sailed away a long, long, time ago.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (sAmhv)

Doesn't help when the FIB continues to double down. That there's an exponential progression, guys. ( No math! Sorry. )

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (ynpvh)

361 During the last couple of months of the Trump presidency John Solomon reported that Trump's team had put together a binder that Solomon said was as thick as a phone book full of documents about the Russia hoax and his team was pressing to get it all released to the public but the intel community was fighting him.

Then the binder disappeared. Or at least the media claims it disappeared. Why would they even report on it if the intel community took it back before Trump left the White House?

Seems a bit odd, no?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (LkLld)

362 Is this trial as fucked up as O.J.'s? So far?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey

That's what it's all about!

Posted by: DNC Lawfare Office at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (w9Wax)

363 Whoah. Killers of the Flower Moon is no way a parallel of Goodfellas.

And it's a pretty good movie, if you can get through all of it.

I still can't get over the fact they turned a murder/mystery into a docudrama. Why would you do that?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (Odg76)

364 353 Show me another candidate that will win the Rep nomination. Yeah, thought so, I mean, Trump has it sewn up. So we're stuck with Trump like it or not.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (ynpvh)

========

Eh. I'm didactic about my own things, too.

Montec being didactic against Trump is one thing. What I find frustrating is his on again and off again acknowledgement of the fraud. It's both normal and unusual at the same time in his own words.

I mean...I'd respect him more if he was out with the view that there was no real different in fraud between 2016 and 2020, that the mail in ballots were secured, and that the fuckery was just normal levels. But this very morning he said it was extra level fuckery while also explaining that any stories of blacks voting Republican in greater numbers this year are nonsense because they didn't in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (GBKbO)

365 352 Is that up the the Judge, or are there court rules that govern the order of closing arguments?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:14 PM (ynpvh)

Why does that even matter? It is what the judge has decided to do. No one can tell him differently.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (xhfG9)

It becomes an issue when appealed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

366 OK, two questions.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (as3uC)

367 Question I was asked when checking in for my Stress test:
woman: "Are you an organ donor?"
me: "Why, should I worry about the test?"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

My husband insisted I am to donate his body to science when he dies.
I agreed because his body will be a historical first, it continued to function without a liver for years.

Posted by: old chick at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (F3Dlr)

368 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

No he's got shit going on in his life and has to take it out on a place that let's him be him without any real reason to, until he doesn't want that anymore and then he has to prove that they're the problem.

Only he doesnt really know that's what's happening.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (A9nA9)

369 In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

Hugo and the Aviator are good
Posted by: It's me donna at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (Akjoo)

Casino was so bad, I thought Scorsese had lost a bet.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (Q0kLU)

370
In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You forgot Gatsby. Oh, that was someone else.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (pwFdO)

371 354 Well, I haven't seen any of them, so there's that.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (T+Iwg)

========

People see his gangster/gangster-like movies and assume that all he makes.

He's much more, but that doesn't stop the sweeping pronouncements.

And I thought the internet was for carefully considered discourse!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (GBKbO)

372 Whoah. Killers of the Flower Moon is no way a parallel of Goodfellas.

And it's a pretty good movie, if you can get through all of it.

I still can't get over the fact they turned a murder/mystery into a docudrama. Why would you do that?
Posted by: bonhomme

They left what I found the most ineteresting 1/3 of the book almost completely out. I didn't hate it, but there was a much better movie to be had.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (CIS44)

373 I'll admit Scorsese managed to get a boom mike in shot in Age of Innocence, so that was certainly different from Goodfellas.

Posted by: spindrift at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (OguvZ)

374 Well, yeah.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (as3uC)

375 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (d9fT1)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

376 Will Jack Smith likewise ask for gag orders on Biden for repeating the "appointed to the naval academy" lie? Why not?

Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (RHGPo)

377 371
In what ways are The Age of Innocence, After Hours, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Hugo, The Aviator, Bringing Out the Dead, Silence, and Kundun like Goodfellas?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You forgot Gatsby. Oh, that was someone else.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (pwFdO)

======

Yeah, that's Baz Luhrmann.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO)

378 I still struggle with his lack of admitting the vaccine was a HORRIBLE idea to force when knowing there were plenty of other options out there to defeat the virus.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)
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I don't know a Trump supporters who doesn't.

I still cringe sometimes at his social media posts. Or the way he rambles about giving speeches at rallies, and what kind of constructions he can blunder into. Or sometimes the way he phrases things.

I thought calling himself a "nationalist" was a *blunder* that he just wouldn't get because he doesn't understand the history of "nationalism" and doesn't understand the founders specified that we are not a *nation*. (Of common *birth* and stock.)

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (krQz2)

379 Only he doesnt really know that's what's happening.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Mr Jones at May 28, 2024 03:24 PM (Q0kLU)

380 And I thought the internet was for carefully considered discourse!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Oh, my sweet summer child...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (mUnoX)

381
Is this trial as fucked up as O.J.'s? So far?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey

Mirror Universe OJ Trial

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (63Dwl)

382 You're a good man, Charlie Brown.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (A9nA9)

383 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

INFURIATING: Pro-Palestine activists desecrated the Memorial Belltower in Raleigh, Carolina during Memorial Day.

You didn’t hear about it because they weren’t destroying a rainbow street mural.

tinyurl.com/4tpnp24r

Posted by: redridinghood at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (NpAcC)

384 I didn't get it the first time I watched "Age Of Innocence".

About the 3rd time through, the light bulb went off and at the end it all made sense.

Poor bastard.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (od9zZ)

385 Casino was so bad, I thought Scorsese had lost a bet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

That's going to rustle some jimmies.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (Odg76)

386 384 I didn't get it the first time I watched "Age Of Innocence".

About the 3rd time through, the light bulb went off and at the end it all made sense.

Poor bastard.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (od9zZ)

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Scorsese called it the most violent movie he ever made.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

387
Fuckallthatnewshit.

You know what I just watched?

The original Shogun miniseries. Fantastic.

Orson Welles is the narrator. I had forgotten that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (pwFdO)

388 Killers of the Flower Moon is no way a parallel of Goodfellas.

Haven't seen it, nor will I, unless someone declares "OH MAN, you GOTTA watch that movie" and it's free. I will not fund a studio that puts those to f*cks that hate me in a movie at their going rate.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (Zz0t1)

389 385 Casino was so bad, I thought Scorsese had lost a bet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

That's going to rustle some jimmies.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (O

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A lot of people LOVE it. I think it's pretty good. Scorsese on auto-pilot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

390 and...it's a movie thread

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (ynpvh)

391 Hacked data reveals which US gun sellers are behind Mexican cartel violence

A massive leak of Mexican military intelligence has exposed for the first time in two decades U.S. gun shops and smugglers tied to 78,000 firearms recovered south of the border – and which types of guns are being trafficked.

As part of the leak, emails relaying U.S. government data between Mexican military leaders and PowerPoint presentations by Mexico’s attorney general show which American straw buyers were tied to the most weapons as of 2022.
…
Of the other six top purchasers, half are linked to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives scandal known as Fast and Furious.

Posted by: SMOD at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (RHGPo)

392 Marchan have a Kangaroo there as the Bailiff?
He should

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (fwDg9)

393 CBD and Joe Mannix;

Trying to eliminate Medi-Medi Fraud can save a lot (10-15B per year). but overall reforms need to be done. The least expensive states, from the fed side are 50% fed funded, all the way up to I believe 75% fed for some state Medicaid programs.

Posted by: Fish at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (TPSUs)

394 The original Shogun miniseries. Fantastic.

Orson Welles is the narrator. I had forgotten that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (pwFdO)

The ORIGINAL?!?!?!

But it's being aired today as an "ORIGINAL SERIES."

Are you telling me they're LYING to me?!? The hell you say.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)

395
Yeah, that's Baz Luhrmann.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Gesundheit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (pwFdO)

396 334 And last I checked, no one here ever said Trump never does anything wrong.

He does. And we admit it.

I still struggle with his lack of admitting the vaccine was a HORRIBLE idea to force when knowing there were plenty of other options out there to defeat the virus.

But he's STILL a metric f*ckton better than Biden and I will support him for pres in 2024.
Posted by: Sponge

Yep. I do not like Trump but like has nothing to do with it. He has faults. His faults have faults. If he wins, I still don't think he'll be allowed to take office, one way or another. Still, I'll vote for him. It's like putting a speedbump on the Beltway but I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (sAmhv)

397 You know what I just watched?

The original Shogun miniseries. Fantastic.

Orson Welles is the narrator. I had forgotten that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:26 PM (pwFdO)

I rewatched that just before Netflix shut down its DVD library. Surprised at how well it held up.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 28, 2024 03:28 PM (T+Iwg)

398 But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from mere reputational damage.

Objection! Implies FBI agents still have a reputation that could be further damaged.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2024 03:28 PM (a3Q+t)

399 Casino was eh and Sharon Stone brought it down at least one star. I think Madison liked her in it. I didn't get it and I think they could have cast a broom in a wig and made it more believable.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:28 PM (A9nA9)

400 396 Yep. I do not like Trump but like has nothing to do with it. He has faults. His faults have faults. If he wins, I still don't think he'll be allowed to take office, one way or another. Still, I'll vote for him. It's like putting a speedbump on the Beltway but I'll vote for him.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (sAmhv)

=======

I think Trump's first term was overall...okay. And that includes covid.

He's also the best president in decades, almost a century.

That's how bad, and for how long, our political class has been.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

401 Still haven't received my orange robe

https://youtu.be/m48xii7ndcg

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2024 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
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That Bones is a real asshole sometimes.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:29 PM (krQz2)

402 NRO wants Ohio to "let Joe Biden on the ballot."

Does "cuckshed.com" still direct to NRO?

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:29 PM (xhfG9)

403 nood making up laws

Posted by: Gref at May 28, 2024 03:29 PM (5fDan)

404 Casino was so bad, I thought Scorsese had lost a bet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 28, 2024 03:23 PM (Q0kLU)
++++
LOL

I didn't think it was bad. It was decidedly below "Goodfellas," but I thought it was fine. A bit ponderous. It should have been at least 15 minutes shorter, maybe 30.

But I thought it was fine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (d04cU)

405 378 I still struggle with his lack of admitting the vaccine was a HORRIBLE idea to force when knowing there were plenty of other options out there to defeat the virus.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM

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A treatment he called "a potential game-changer" was immediately branded "fish-tank cleaner THAT WILL KILL YOU DEAD" in the media because of his endorsement--even though it was cheap, had a long history of relevant application, and had been used with some effect against other notorious upper-respiratory infections. Again, because HE said something good about it.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (wzAuc)

406 nood Merchan

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (ZdexC)

407 You're a good man, Charlie Brown.
Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:25 PM (A9nA9)

He's not the man. He's the dildo.

The Rubber Don, if you will...

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

408
Speaking of sharon stone...

I also downloaded King Solomines Mines.

I had no idea Hollywood has made about ten versions of that story.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (pwFdO)

409 Casino was eh and Sharon Stone brought it down at least one star. I think Madison liked her in it. I didn't get it and I think they could have cast a broom in a wig and made it more believable.
Posted by: ... at May 28, 2024 03:28 PM (A9nA9)
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Stone is actually one of the smartest people in Hollywood.

Posted by: Axeman at May 28, 2024 03:30 PM (krQz2)

410 I mean...I'd respect him more if he was out with the view that there was no real different in fraud between 2016 and 2020, that the mail in ballots were secured, and that the fuckery was just normal levels. But this very morning he said it was extra level fuckery while also explaining that any stories of blacks voting Republican in greater numbers this year are nonsense because they didn't in 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (GBKbO)

I would respect him if he was willing to argue anything but he isn't, as far as I can tell he just likes being talked about.

That makes me feel sad in a way. My Dad was talked about a lot after he died, because he was that involved in the community, and he thought helping people was important for both the community and for people in general.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (D7oie)

411 This fuckin judge.

@JonathanTurley

......Steinglass is going into detail on the McDougal story, which is not the basis for any charge. He just said that this "transaction amounted to an unlawful campaign contribution." However, that is not only not true legally but it is not charged legally.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

412 > A massive leak of Mexican military intelligence has exposed for the first time in two decades U.S. gun shops and smugglers tied to 78,000 firearms recovered south of the border – and which types of guns are being trafficked.

The Cartels buy from Russia, China, and their own militaries. The whole reason Obama's people did Fast and Furious was because US gun shops DON'T supply most of their guns. Obama was trying to cook up a connection. This "leak" reeks of our intel services trying to hand Biden an anti-gun retailer talking point.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (Odg76)

413 I only watched Age of Innocence because a throwaway line in a Family Guy episode made me believe Winona Ryder got nekkid in it.

What a disappointment.

Posted by: spindrift at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (OguvZ)

414 But he's STILL a metric f*ckton better than Biden and I will support him for pres in 2024.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

Dude...Exactly.

I am not a Trump fanboi and have caught a huge amount of sh*t from people on this blog about it. But for all of the obvious reasons he is the only choice, and anyone who argues that from a conservative or Republican, or even libertarian perspective is being deeply disingenuous.

Donald Trump is my candidate, and I will do everything I can to get him elected.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:21 PM (d9fT1)
******
100%!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (NpAcC)

415 Yep. I do not like Trump but like has nothing to do with it. He has faults. His faults have faults.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Trump also can't catch a break.

No matter that he has good intentions, works longer hours than most, doesn't drink or smoke, has stable intelligent children, stood his ground regarding Florida/membership, embraces the value of forgiveness, etc ... he is sabotaged, persecuted, and left as damaged goods for simply being better than most.

Posted by: old chick at May 28, 2024 03:33 PM (F3Dlr)

416 Our Medicare dollars during COVID were running out of the country like an Irishman on a bender at the urinal. Just on the home test kits, I'd estimate Medicare lost 1-2B to fraud.

Posted by: Fish at May 28, 2024 03:33 PM (TPSUs)

417 It becomes an issue when appealed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 28, 2024 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

The judge doesn't care about appeal. I think everyone says if Trump is convicted it will be overturned on appeal. For myriad reasons. But it doesn't matter whether defendant goe last is a rule or tradition or just the way it is - the judge has chosen to do otherwise. And you nor anyone else can do anything about it.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:34 PM (xhfG9)

418 I only watched Age of Innocence because a throwaway line in a Family Guy episode made me believe Winona Ryder got nekkid in it.
Posted by: spindrift at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM

You know, I read here that these kinds of things can be researched on the Internet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2024 03:34 PM (a3Q+t)

419 Trying to eliminate Medi-Medi Fraud can save a lot (10-15B per year). but overall reforms need to be done.

Posted by: Fish at May 28, 2024 03:27 PM (TPSUs)

Agreed. The first step must be serious attempts at budget reduction. Not slowing the rate of growth, but decreasing the total amount spent by the federal government.

Until that happens, it is all bullsh*tting around.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2024 03:34 PM (d9fT1)

420 @JonathanTurley

......Steinglass is going into detail on the McDougal story, which is not the basis for any charge. He just said that this "transaction amounted to an unlawful campaign contribution." However, that is not only not true legally but it is not charged legally.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

Turley is starting to realize that his "legal analyst" frame is useless in this case. This doesn't have anything to do with the law. The prosecutors will say whatever they want in their pursuit of "getting Trump." It doesn't matter if its true or logical or anything else.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:36 PM (xhfG9)

421 NOOD.

You bunch no nooders.

Posted by: blaster at May 28, 2024 03:37 PM (xhfG9)

422 But we have to protect those dear, dear FBI agents from meremoremere reputational damage.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 28, 2024 03:38 PM (w9Wax)

423 Ace: I disagree with you concerning the FEEB's claiming that this is standard boilerplate in a search warrant. Having actually served search warrants, the only time I've ever seen anything similar was when certifying high-risk "no knock" search warrants for drug dens.

What's even more egregious was the "don't wear identifying clothing" order. I've never heard of such a thing when serving a search warrant.

Either the FEEBs are too stupid to know that they're armed, or they were recklessly risking a blue-on-blue shooting. For an unprecedented search warrant on a former POTUS, at his residence with Secret Service protection, to just say, "Yeah, it's business as usual" is giving the DOJ too much credit.

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