Gun Thread: May 26th Massive Rip-Off Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Annual May 26th Massive Rip-Off Edition? Weasel are headed to the Farm-O, that's how! Lo siento, amigos y amigas. I made a late decision to head to the farm-o for the long weekend, so naturally all y'all must suffer the consequences in the form of , shall we say, a "content lite" edition. When you read this I will be sitting feet-up under a pine tree sipping a warm bottle of water with an umbrella in it and smoking a cigar.

NOTE: Today is the deadline to register for the 2024 NoVAMoMe. Deadline, as in, the last day to register. Period.

Q: Weasel, can we wait until tomorrow and say we didn't know there was a deadline?
A: No. Well, you can, but it's not going to get you registered and you stand a good chance of disappointing bluebell.

Q: Weasel, is disappointing bluebell ever a good idea.
A: It is not.

Tomorrow we guarantee the headcount to the caterer and that's it. No more registrations or refunds. Hope to see you in a couple weeks!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals
Thought content-lite meant no fundamentals, didn't you?

Practice your fundamentals people. Make your next range trip 'grip' day, and practice both good grip mechanics and focus all of your brain molecules on not flinching. I'd like to hear from a few of you next Sunday if focusing on proper grip mechanics as hard as you can on every shot makes a difference. See also the SEH gal video below.

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Early Colt Revolver
From the Antiques Roadshow.
Wow!

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Making a Katana
Following up on last Sunday's discussion, this video gives you an idea of how Japanaese Katana blades are made.

And another look at how they are polished after forging.

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Hickok45
Here's out pal Hickok45 on the range with a Smith & Wesson 625.

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Paradox of Charged Particles in a Gravitational Field
Here is something that keeps me awake at night.

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Attack From Space!

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2024 NoVAMoMe

Note: One of the great joys of NoVAMoMe season, at least for me, is being able to cut and paste the entire block of text below and haranguing you to register for the event. Have you registered? Are you focusing on the fundamentals of registration?

Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated opening of 2024 NoVAMoMe registration is upon us! That's right, registration for the event of the season is open, which means you can register to attend! You see, in order to attend, you must first register, and then wait for June 8th, and then attend! It's really more of an application to attend based on whether we like you or not, but what have you got to lose?!

Q: Weasel, your world frightens and confuses us. How do we, how do you say, register for the NoVAMoMe?
A: Welp, it's pretty darn easy!

First, check your calendars for June 8th, 2024, and cancel anything already planned. Good so far? Then simply send an email to WeaselBell Productions expressing your interest, then sit back and anxiously wait for a reply. Our pal and most delightful 'ette and MoMe Hostess Extraordinaire bluebell will review your application and relevant permanent record notations to decide if you're NoVAMoMe material. If you're one of the chosen, you'll get a reply with a link and secret password to the registration site containing all the pertinent details. Look these over and complete the simple registration form, following the PayPal link provided at the end of the form to make your payment. The $30 pp fee covers appetizers, dinner (BBQ Chicken, hamburdogs, sides, and dessert) plus an unlimited amount of fun! Since we must guarantee a headcount to the caterer, all registrations must be made online by May 26th. We are not accepting payment for registration at the door. You do not need a PayPal account to register and can pay with any major credit card.

A NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer. Also, once registered, remember to check your spam folder if you don't receive a confirmation email.
Thanks.
bluebell

Seriously, just send an email, go to the site with the password provided, fill out the simple form, and make your payment. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

Win a Dream Date with Weasel!
Due to popular demand, we are again conducting a separate raffle for a Dream Date with Weasel This fabulous prize includes an entire day of shooting and personalized one-on-one handgun & rifle coaching and instruction at Weasel Acres on a mutually agreeable date with yours truly. The lucky winner will be able to not only bring and shoot their own weapons, but also try out a variety of WeaselWeapons using WeaselAmmo!

We will end the day with dinner at a good Mexican place in nearby Appomattox. The winner will be responsible for their travel to and from Central Virginia, hence the separate drawing.

Don't be a pathetic girly-man loser, register today!

Q: Weasel, anything else for 2024?
A: Why I'm glad you asked! There are in fact TWO things to mention for 2024.

First, we are again having a pre-party get-together the afternoon/evening before the main event. Details at the registration site.

Dos, we are again offering a NoVAMoMe commemorative mug for 2024 available only to NoVAMoMe participants!

We sincerely hope you can join the festivities. I promise you this event is as laid back and non-anxiety inducing as humanly possible, and nothing makes me happier than to meet new people who have been reluctant to join in the past. If sitting on the sidelines and just observing is your thing, you can do just that with zero pressure from anyone. I hope some of the past NoVAMoMe participants will jump in and share their thoughts on the event to inspire the scairdy-cat lurkers out there to throw caution to the wind and sign up!

That's it, people. Email WeaselBell Productions today!

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Musical Interlude
Miles Davis and John Coltrane So What.

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Gun Basics 101
No new video from the She Equips Herself gal, so since it's Grip Week let's look at the elements of a proper grip.

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Cigar Fundamentals

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal WTM. So true!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 gulle gub

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:00 PM (NxC5+)

2 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:00 PM (zecyQ)

3 BLAM!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:00 PM (Eft2h)

4 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2024 07:00 PM (RkoO2)

5 Good evening Weasel and good evening horde.

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

6 Damn...a Moron's gotta be fast around here.

*dons hat*

*doffs hat in Eromero's direction*

*leaves hat off because does not look good in hats*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:01 PM (zecyQ)

7 I never ever thought that I would see Miles and Trane on the Gun Thread.

...cool....

Posted by: pawn at May 26, 2024 07:03 PM (QB+5g)

8 I shot a gun before...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 07:05 PM (PZo5T)

9 BLAM!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:00 PM

FFS, lady, relax!!!

Posted by: A Woodpecker at May 26, 2024 07:05 PM (zecyQ)

10 thanks again for the thread, Weasel! Hope the cigar and umbrella makes for a nice quiet time of reflection at WeaselAcres.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:05 PM (tT6L1)

11 Ooooo! The farm-o!!! Any sign of the weasel wild aminals? Weaselbear? Weaselgoat? Weaselweasel?

Seriously though, worked on posture this week. Was found to be leaning backwards instead of putting my weight forward. Need to work on that.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:07 PM (Eft2h)

12 Gub! Hope you have a great Memorial Day stay at the farm, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 26, 2024 07:08 PM (mH6SG)

13 Well done Eromero!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 26, 2024 07:08 PM (hOUT3)

14 2 st??

Two blocks over and turn left at the Piggly Wiggly.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 07:11 PM (ZdexC)

15 Just finished watching the Wilson Combat channel video showcasing the Deluxe 45th Anniversary Supergrade - With Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn. Wowza, what a gorgeous gun! It was also interesting to see those two with porn star moustaches and full heads of hair when they were competing back in the late '70s/early '80s.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 26, 2024 07:12 PM (3rnQf)

16 2 st??

Two blocks over and turn left at the Piggly Wiggly.
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 07:11 PM

And then straight on 'til MoMe?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:12 PM (zecyQ)

17 I saw something at the NRA convention that done flung a cravin' on me. Bingle Inglis GP-35. Supposedly to hit the market in a couple of months.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:12 PM (/y8xj)

18 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:07 PM (Eft2h)

Weaselotter?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 07:13 PM (d9fT1)

19 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:07 PM (Eft2h)

Weaselotter?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 07:13 PM

*steps slowly away from CBD*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:15 PM (zecyQ)

20 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:15 PM (yRXSd)

21 Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:12 PM (/y8xj)

It's nice that more companies are building P-35 clones. It's such a beautiful design.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 07:16 PM (d9fT1)

22 Ooooo! The farm-o!!! Any sign of the weasel wild aminals? Weaselbear? Weaselgoat? Weaselweasel?

Posted by: nurse ratched
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I herd it was going to be weaselhorses....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 07:17 PM (PZo5T)

23 It's nice that more companies are building P-35 clones. It's such a beautiful design.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 07:16 PM

One of the guns that I will add to my collection one day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:17 PM (zecyQ)

24 Looking to replace my hated Bodyguard pocket backup. Is the Ruger LCP or LCP max a reliable gun? It's one of the least expensive from the options I'm considering. Going to test shoot a few but you can't learn about it's long term quality that way.

Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 07:18 PM (450a+)

25 *sneaks in, tardily*

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:19 PM (HDGM5)

26 So, this weekend in the range report we have the good, the interesting and the, umm, what's beyond ugly? Hideous?

First, the good: I had the option of shooting steel with pistol or shooting steel with a rifle yesterday. Naturally, I choose steel. With a pistol. The wind sort of made the decision for me. I wasn't all that interested in shooing at a tiny target @ 500 meters in 20mph wind gusts. So, took the 1911 to a steel shootout and proceeded to show some youngsters an old guy can still get the job done.

Now for the hideous. I headed over to another ranged and worked out the Noreen for a bit. Rifle ran great, which was a plus, What was really bad, though, was after I'd emptied both magazine I policed up my brass and found out a bunch of them had blown out primers. This was Creedmor ammo I'd purchased supposedly rated for the M1 Garand. You've no idea how happy I was I found out the ammo was bad before using in a Garand. However, I did not appreciate the fact I had to toss roughly 200 rounds of '06 ammo. But, best I find out the ammo is bad in a gun that can take the over pressure, versus my Garand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:20 PM (tT6L1)

27 *sneaks in, tardily*
Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:19 PM

But do you feel tardy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:20 PM (zecyQ)

28 One of the earlier revolver types mentioned by the antique appraiser:

Collier Second Model Five-Shot Flintlock Revolver
Patented by Elisha Haydon Collier American

ca. 1820

https://tinyurl.com/hwfztp55

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 07:21 PM (ZdexC)

29 Happy Memorial Day weekend Weasel and horde. I am one happy person as Tennessee just beat LSU for the SEC baseball championship (here we come Omaha!) and the NYR beat FL in OT in hockey. Life is good. Was at the range this morning (I like these holidays, no waiting) and I have to say my work on dominant hand pressure is working. Was pleased with the results. Still need to remember to bend at waist and not hunch my shoulders. But progress nonetheless!

Posted by: Grateful at May 26, 2024 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

30 Looking to replace my hated Bodyguard pocket backup. Is the Ruger LCP or LCP max a reliable gun?

We have a first model LCP. So far, it's eaten everything we've tried in it.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:23 PM (/y8xj)

31 Just to clarify, the NoVaMoMe will NOT be a rip-off!

Hit me up if you're interested!

Posted by: bluebell - registration ends tonight! at May 26, 2024 07:24 PM (bS+DD)

32 By the way, blown out primers can be a real headache in the AR platform. I've seen a blow out primer drop into the trigger group and cause a slam fire. No bueno.

Still can't believe the Noreen at the crappy ammo with nary a hiccup. Granted I couldn't hit the side of barn with it but, still, not the fault of the operator or the rifle.

Finally, the interesting: I'mI looking into running a 208 grain Hornady ELD M bullet in the Axis Precision. Oddly enough, the bullet profile is so wildly different than the 178 grain ElD M it appears I will have a longer COAL than the 178 grain stuff. Maybe some more experienced reloaders can clue me in on this?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:25 PM (tT6L1)

33 Weaselcow! And of course, the feared weaselsnake.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:25 PM (Eft2h)

34 Well, this is the most Chicago area Memorial weekend thing that could happen….just got a tornado warning. Locked in the basement with the rifles, dogs, and family.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 26, 2024 07:26 PM (VKBZ6)

35 But do you feel tardy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:20 PM (zecyQ)

I do not!
Besides, it’s my birfday. And, after not shooting it for 2 or 3 months, I placed 2d in the Aspirin Shoot this am.
And tomorrow I am going up top to shoot long and get ready for a certain event upcoming.
Gotta practice. I hear those others are tough.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:26 PM (HDGM5)

36 Good job, RI Red!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:27 PM (tT6L1)

37 Grateful!

Sounds like you and I were on the same wavelength this weekend. Remember to engage your core too, it helps to steady everything.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:27 PM (Eft2h)

38 Most of you who are repeat Gun Thread attendees have encountered Sensei (and Honorary Texan) Weasel's exhortation to buy ammo.

Manufacturers are reporting powder shortages. There's a rumor that Alliant will not be supplying the civilian market for the foreseeable future. To go all Ben Roethilsberger on you -- IF YOU SEE AMMO YOU WANT AT A GOOD PRICE BUY IT!!!!!

Those of you approaching 29 have been through one or more ammo droughts. Weather reports say we could be approaching another one.

There is iron in the words of Weasel for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at May 26, 2024 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)

39 Happy birthday, Red!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:28 PM (Eft2h)

40 Happy birfday, Red!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:30 PM (zecyQ)

41 Thanks, blake, nurse.
I was going to make a rude, but typical moron remark about female posture, but I’ll probably wait.
Scoobs, if you’re here, the task is done.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:31 PM (HDGM5)

42 Make the comment Red.

I have met Ms Red. She gave me permission to smack you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:33 PM (Eft2h)

43 Happy Birthday RI Red, and congrats on your Aspirin Shoot finish.

Posted by: Grateful at May 26, 2024 07:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

44 I was going to make a rude, but typical moron remark about female posture, but I’ll probably wait.
Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:31 PM

Make the remark. I've seen nurse shoot. Y'all could run, but you'll only die tired.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)

45 Duncanthrax, not a rumor. News article about it this last week. Guncotton bottleneck, and powder is going to fill 155 mm howitzer shells for the two ongoing wars.
I just ordered some 8 pounders of Varget and H 4350.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:35 PM (HDGM5)

46
I have met Ms Red. She gave me permission to smack you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 07:33 PM (Eft2h

That’s what I’m afraid of… .
But you do have delightful posture.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:37 PM (HDGM5)

47 I just ordered some 8 pounders of Varget and H 4350.
Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:35 PM

I've seen one 8# of Varget locally, for $439. I went back the next day, and it was gone.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 07:38 PM (a3Q+t)

48 I just ordered some 8 pounders of Varget and H 4350.

What is a reasonable expectation of shelf life for powders assuming you keep them indoors (i.e. no temp/humidity extremes) and tightly capped?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:38 PM (/y8xj)

49 Good evening, gunthusiasts.

Do any of you ever have anyone video as get your stance and grip?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 07:39 PM (Fy8cO)

50 Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at May 26, 2024 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)

This goes double (or triple) for those who shoot non-military standard ammo or wildcat cartridges. Keep in mind we have a couple of semi-big shooting affairs going on right now. Vista Outdoors (re-named Alliant Sporting Group) is a key defense contractor supplying gunpowder to the military. Uncle Sam has first call on the limited supply of gunpowder since Uncle is a key supplier to combatants in both of these wars.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:39 PM (yRXSd)

51 Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:38 PM (/y8xj)

Decades if you store them correctly.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:43 PM (yRXSd)

52 Duncanthrax, midway has varget. $354 with birfday pricing so maybe 10 percent more.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:43 PM (HDGM5)

53 Going to the pit Tuesday and bringing .223 and 9mm. Maybe some 12ga slugs. Using my sheet cardboard and paper plate targets. Hoping the holiday weekend crowd has dispersed and they'll be fewer people there. It's been raining here lately so will need to let some air out of the tires to get there by forest roads. No winch so I hope we don't get stuck. That would suck.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 26, 2024 07:43 PM (aFNOf)

54 Belated B-Day greetings to you, RI Red!

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:44 PM (yRXSd)

55 Do any of you ever have anyone video as get your stance and grip?
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With firearms, right??

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 07:44 PM (ZdexC)

56 Yes, andycanuck.hahaha

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 07:45 PM (Fy8cO)

57 Happy Birthday, RI Red. A raised glass in your honor.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 07:46 PM (Fy8cO)

58 " I shot a gun before...
Posted by: lin-duh"

In your pajamas?

Posted by: fd at May 26, 2024 07:47 PM (vFG9F)

59 Ed L., not belated at all. One of my sisters just barely beat you.
At this stage of my multiple 29s, just getting to this day is good.
Life is good!

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:47 PM (HDGM5)

60 56 Yes, andycanuck.hahaha
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Then, no.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 07:48 PM (ZdexC)

61 Ben Had, I hope it was a hearty red!

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 07:48 PM (HDGM5)

62 Is that man allowed to have that revolver in England?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2024 07:50 PM (63Dwl)

63 Evening, Ben! How are things with you?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:50 PM (tT6L1)

64 Somber yet reflective Memorial Day greetings, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special long-distance wave to our stalwart host Weasel.

(No, I didn't say Weasel has warts -- filthy rumor, that.)

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 07:51 PM (v23vE)

65 Rhône and Rhône-style reds are best reds.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 07:51 PM (a3Q+t)

66 Cheers y'all. I can confirm that Grateful is becoming a sniper.

My progress is a little...ummm...more gradual.

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 07:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

67 Good evening all.
Spent two hours in a pool with my inexhaustible granddaughters and barely have the energy to type.
I ordered CCI 22 copper this week from PSA and got a great price and efficient delivery.
That is the entire extent of my gun related comments.
Sigh...
More next Sunday I hope.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 07:52 PM (t/2Uw)

68 SG Ammo has not been shy about warning its customers about the pending price increases for gunpowder and potential shortages of supply for the same in the near future.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd)

69 (No, I didn't say Weasel has warts -- filthy rumor, that.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 07:51 PM

But you did say he smokes his cigars with his pinky extended.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 07:53 PM (a3Q+t)

70 24 Looking to replace my hated Bodyguard pocket backup. Is the Ruger LCP or LCP max a reliable gun? It's one of the least expensive from the options I'm considering. Going to test shoot a few but you can't learn about it's long term quality that way.
Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 07:18 PM (450a+)
At great risk of getting my dcik hammered, I'm gonna talk Glock, my work gun is a G17. My carry gun is usually a G45 (17 frame/19slide). But, lately I've been carrying a SA35 off work. The damn thing is all steel but weighs about the same as the G45 but only 16 rounds vs. 18 rounds. The SA 35 is very accurate and comes to target very quickly, I added a Dawson high visibility front sight. It carrys real easy in an OWB VersaCarry holster. Go handle one. This is from a guy who has tried them all. I feel like such a glutton.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:54 PM (NxC5+)

71 I just bought my first semi auto. I decided to get a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact 40 as it seems to be kinda old school which is my first filter when heading into new territory.

I took it to the local range and put 5 mags through it.

First thing I learned is you grip them different than a revolver. Took some skin of my thumb knuckle. RO brought me a band aide and some badly needed advice.

I kept getting better and better through my short session which is encouraging because I have a long way to go.

It seems like less recoil than my S&W Model 10 38 with P+ which I am very happy about but I haven't shot the revolver in a while.

Posted by: pawn at May 26, 2024 07:55 PM (QB+5g)

72 Hello Blake, I am well and hope you are too. Any chance of replacement or refund on that ammo?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 07:55 PM (Fy8cO)

73 64 Somber yet reflective Memorial Day greetings, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special long-distance wave to our stalwart host Weasel.

(No, I didn't say Weasel has warts -- filthy rumor, that.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 07:51 PM (v23vE

Says it right there. All warts.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2024 07:55 PM (rJ7Hd)

74 Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 07:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

Perhaps you and Grateful could change things up and add time and varying distances to the mix?

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:57 PM (yRXSd)

75 Hello Blake, I am well and hope you are too. Any chance of replacement or refund on that ammo?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 07:55 PM (Fy8cO)
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I'm debating what to do. I bought the ammo several years ago during another ammo shortage. I may contact Creedmoor to see if they'll do anything but, It's really hard for me to prove when and where.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 07:57 PM (tT6L1)

76 Ed L, sent you an email yesterday and it bounced back. Did you change your email address?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 07:58 PM (t/2Uw)

77 I'm very tired and my face hurts and neck too....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 07:59 PM (PZo5T)

78 74 Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 07:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

Perhaps you and Grateful could change things up and add time and varying distances to the mix?

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:57 PM (yRXSd)
***
Soon. Need to be consistently on the mark before adding more variables.

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 08:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

79 Polynikes, I’ve carried a Ruger LCP since just after they came out. Pro - eeeeeasy to conceal. Con - sharp recoil even with .380. Crap sights.
I changed out the trigger group and put a Hogue wrap around mini grip on it, cured the sharpness. Put white nail polish (or was it Pearl?), on the sights, cured the sight problem.
I have never had a malfunction. It is so small that I never have an excuse not to carry. With me always.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:01 PM (HDGM5)

80 Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:54 PM (NxC5+)

Eromero, are you still thinking about picking up a surplus alloy framed FN High Power? The Belgian Gendarmes originally got these because they wanted to carry something that wasn't as heavy as a steel frame High Power. That weight difference is readily apparent when you pick up that alloy framed High Power.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:02 PM (yRXSd)

81 I'm late because - crossover to a First World Problem - one clock I looked at told me it was only 5 o'clock.

But I'm here.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:03 PM (AWrpC)

82 * gives lin-duh a hug and a comfy pillow to rest on*

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 08:03 PM (Fy8cO)

83 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 07:58 PM (t/2Uw)

No. I just sent you a test message to make sure comms are OK.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:04 PM (yRXSd)

84 Manufacturers are reporting powder shortages. There's a rumor that Alliant will not be supplying the civilian market for the foreseeable future. To go all Ben Roethilsberger on you -- IF YOU SEE AMMO YOU WANT AT A GOOD PRICE BUY IT!!!!!
=================

I see Basspro has free shipping for $50+.
Think it was they who once forgot hazmat fees. So, it was free shipping. Free shipping to store anyway if you have one nearby.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 26, 2024 08:05 PM (cOq4q)

85 USCCA lists Texas as a reciprocity state for concealed carry but with limitations.

I wasn't expecting Texas to have limitations. Most states simply say if you're licensed in your state, we consider you licensed in our state too.

Isn't Texas that way?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2024 08:05 PM (mzM2O)

86 At great risk of getting my dcik hammered, I'm gonna talk Glock
Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:54 PM

I like people who live dangerously! So much so that Danger is my alter ego.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at May 26, 2024 08:06 PM (a3Q+t)

87 I think Lin-duh has been smiling too much and forget it takes fewer muscles to slap someone who needs it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:06 PM (tT6L1)

88 Blake, I’m not familiar with the Noreen. Is that a gas gun? Were you getting really high muzzle velocity?
I wonder what the ammo would in a solid 30-06 bolt gun.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:07 PM (HDGM5)

89 Got it.
I'll try again. I got a report from SiD, who has arrived in London and begun her trek with some great pics. That is what I tried to send.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:08 PM (t/2Uw)

90 Blake,
lin-duh is 99% sure she has shingles...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 08:08 PM (PZo5T)

91 But you did say he smokes his cigars with his pinky extended.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 07:53 PM (a3Q+t)

Naturally -- as men of sophistication do when contemplating life.

(Or so I've heard, not being a man of sophistication meself. Sophistry, maybe.)

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 08:09 PM (v23vE)

92
I wasn't expecting Texas to have limitations. Most states simply say if you're licensed in your state, we consider you licensed in our state too.

Isn't Texas that way?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2024 08:05 PM (mzM2O)
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Most states only have reciprocity with states who recognize their permit holders. For instance, my AZ CCW, which is good pretty much the entire I-40 corridor isn't any good in MN or CA. Probably the same for WA and OR.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:09 PM (tT6L1)

93 80 Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:54 PM (NxC5+)

Eromero, are you still thinking about picking up a surplus alloy framed FN High Power? The Belgian Gendarmes originally got these because they wanted to carry something that wasn't as heavy as a steel frame High Power. That weight difference is readily apparent when you pick up that alloy framed High Power.
Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:02 PM (yRXSd)
I know, I went and slobbered over that ad. I have an original HP, and I've owned Inglis, and you were gracious enought to allow me to shoot your new FN but I'm gonna tell ya, the SA35 can dance. As to price on the lightweight, it's good but I'd feel better buying ammo at this junction.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 08:10 PM (NxC5+)

94 Ah, lin-duh, I didn't mean to make light of your illness. I thought you'd just been doing some yard work and such.

Sorry you're under the weather.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:10 PM (tT6L1)

95 90 Blake,
lin-duh is 99% sure she has shingles...
Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 08:08 PM (PZo5T)

That sucketh, ma'am. Best wishes for a mild case and a speedy recovery!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 08:11 PM (v23vE)

96 One correction to that mailbag entry....
There was a student who shot people back in that day - the infamous University of Texas Tower Shooting. Of course, it was also the presence of lots of good guys who also had guns that allowed other students to return fire and pin him down so the police could take him out.

And it still wasn't the fault of the firearms for what happened that day.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:12 PM (AWrpC)

97 Posted by: pawn at May 26, 2024 07:55 PM (QB+5g)

SEH talks about what you did in her video above. Bet you won't forget that lesson anytime soon.

Is your S&W Model 10 OK to shoot +P ammo out of? I think newer ones are OK to use +P in, but older ones (especially pre-1980s) aren't. If it's an older model, you should 1) stop using +P ammo in that Model 10 ASAP, and/or 2) get a revolver capable of handling .38 Special +P loads (EX: 2017 Colt Cobra) or a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. Blowing up a revolver w/ overpowered ammo is NOT something you want to experience firsthand.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:13 PM (yRXSd)

98 @RI Red, the Noreen is a long action AR style platform. I wasn't running a chronograph, but, with some shots obviously going way high, I suspect, yes, I was getting high muzzle velocities.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:13 PM (tT6L1)

99 I have never had a malfunction. It is so small that I never have an excuse not to carry. With me always.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:01 PM (HDGM5)

Concur. Not my favorite gun by any means, but the one I usually have with me.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 26, 2024 08:13 PM (3rnQf)

100 100!

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 08:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

101 Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:01 PM (HDGM5)

Thanks RI Red and Oddbob. The main reason I don't like the Bodyguard is the mile long pull. The LCP max has a 10 round capacity without changing the footprint which makes it desirable. Don't know if that changes the reliability in such a small frame. But again need to test options. They all might have triggers that need to be upgraded.

Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 08:14 PM (450a+)

102 Having been through a number of shortages (and with 2024 looking to be uncharted territory), I’ve placed a number of orders that were not in my budget.
I’ll second Ben R. - BUY ALL THE THINGS NOW!

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:14 PM (HDGM5)

103 Shingles? Give Lin-duh a hug, a comfy pillow and the stuffed comfort animal. Sorry to hear this, hope it clears quickly.

Posted by: Grateful at May 26, 2024 08:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

104 No worries Blake. I'm functional, it's just been a busy weekend and I'm extra tired

Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 08:15 PM (PZo5T)

105 o worries Blake. I'm functional, it's just been a busy weekend and I'm extra tired
Posted by: lin-duh at May 26, 2024 08:15 PM (PZo5T)
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Well, I sort of assume if I make it to TX again this year, I'll see you then. So, I figure I need to be on good behavior, or else.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:18 PM (tT6L1)

106 But do you feel tardy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 07:20 PM (zecyQ)

Never go full tardy.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:18 PM (AWrpC)

107 Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 08:10 PM (NxC5+)

That's understandable. I can bring my alloy framed High Power to Texas if you still want to try it out.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

108 Don't smoke so had a scotch

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2024 08:19 PM (fwDg9)

109 At great risk of getting my dcik hammered, I'm gonna talk Glock
Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 07:54 P

I have Glocks in 4 different calibers and more than one in two of those calibers. The only reason I don't carry the G42 as my back up as it's just a bit to big for a pocket gun .

Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 08:19 PM (450a+)

110 Hope you feel better, lin-duh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 26, 2024 08:19 PM (SqeHx)

111 24 ... "Looking to replace my hated Bodyguard pocket backup. Is the Ruger LCP or LCP max a reliable gun?"

Polynikes,

I have issues with my Smith Bodyguard but it has at least been reliable. I switched to a Smith Equalizer in 9mm for CC. Easy to rack the slide, and the grip allows my big hands good control. Mine is most accurate with 147 grain ammo. Don't know about the Ruger LCP or Max although they seem popular.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 08:19 PM (zudum)

112 Ed L

I'm good.

Thanks.

Posted by: pawn at May 26, 2024 08:22 PM (QB+5g)

113 Anyone here seen the news that at least one powder manufacturer will have their product off the shelves for a while? They're claiming there's a shortage of nitrocellulose.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:24 PM (AWrpC)

114 I saw something at the NRA convention that done flung a cravin' on me. Bingle Inglis GP-35. Supposedly to hit the market in a couple of months.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 07:12 PM (/y8xj)

Not made by the John Inglis company, unfortunately. Basically a Tisas Hi-Power. Probably a good deal at the right price.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2024 08:25 PM (+o/4e)

115 I saw an ad for the new Sig P322 and started thinking....
But the mag is more than 10 rounds and that makes it difficult to purchase in MD. It is very smart looking and has all the bells and whistles and is sight ready.
I will think on it some more.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:25 PM (t/2Uw)

116 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:24 PM (AWrpC)

Oh, I do see Duncanthrax brought it up.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:26 PM (AWrpC)

117 115 I saw an ad for the new Sig P322 and started thinking....
But the mag is more than 10 rounds and that makes it difficult to purchase in MD. It is very smart looking and has all the bells and whistles and is sight ready.
I will think on it some more.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:25 PM (t/2Uw)

.22?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2024 08:27 PM (mzM2O)

118 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2024 08:25 PM (+o/4e)

If they're making a clone of the British issue L9A1 High Power w/ lanyard ring, it's an opportunity for those who want to LARP or cosplay Operation Nimrod w/ an MP5 clone topped w/ a Maglite flashlight.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:28 PM (yRXSd)

119 Vista Outdoors (re-named Alliant Sporting Group)
Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 07:39 PM (yRXSd)

And I saw another news item that said it's being sold to someone in the Czech Republic.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:28 PM (AWrpC)

120 The main reason I don't like the Bodyguard is the mile long pull

The LCP was my wife's EDC until she swapped out for a S&W 442 DAO. My EDC is a Sig P290 DAO. Both long, heavy pulls compared to a striker or SA.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 08:29 PM (/y8xj)

121 .22?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

Yes.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:30 PM (t/2Uw)

122 GWB, I think I saw that the sale to a Czech entity got quashed by congress.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:30 PM (HDGM5)

123 Wasn't the "She quips" gal a a blonde? I mean who cares but wasn't she?

Posted by: Just sayin at May 26, 2024 08:30 PM (gnGBL)

124 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:25 PM (t/2Uw)

I think try before you buy still holds. Will your magazine loading tool fit the SIG magazine?

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:32 PM (yRXSd)

125 Oddbob, the nice thing about those DAOs is that you can carry with a round in the chamber and know that it is not going off with a definite intent.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:33 PM (HDGM5)

126 polynikes, the LCPs are double action, so their triggers are going to be the best. I remind myself to 'roll' the trigger when shooting it.

I'd go for a Max. if I were buying another. Slightly improved trigger. I've had no reliablity issues. You will want to get a Hogue Handall for it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 08:33 PM (a3Q+t)

127 She also was single, once

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2024 08:34 PM (fwDg9)

128 Without, dammit!

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:34 PM (HDGM5)

129 One to look over:

The Bear Creek Arsenal "Grizzly", their answer to the Palmetto State Armory "Dagger".

While both are pretty much Glock 17 clones, the Grizzly features a very slightly less raked grip angle of only 20 degrees, while still using the Glock 17 mags.

Reviews seem strong on the pistol, and the "right around" $300 price point is attractive.

Wanting to plonk another 9mm or two in the safe, 'cause that'll be a very predominant round in the Burning Times.

I LIKE the .45 ACP a whole lot more. But, there'll be a whole lot more 9mm out there to "liberate", along the way.

And I'll have fun, shooting 'em all, this October!

Most excellent Gun Thread, Weasel san. My sitting out on the front porch smoking a Rocky Patel Edge, blue label Nicaraguan Puro, 5x48 torpedo, SALUTE, amigo!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2024 08:34 PM (e6UQI)

130 The new P322 was completely designed and built by SIG SAUER in New Hampshire and is loaded with premium features, including a ROMEOZero Elite direct from the factory. The P322 also comes with a threaded barrel adapter making it suppressor ready right out of the box, and with its ambidextrous controls, interchangeable flat and curved triggers, and fiber optic front sight / ROMEOZero Elite, the new P322 is the highest capacity, most advanced 22 pistol in its class.

With a 20 round mag, it probably won't fit my hand but it didn;t stop me salivating over it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:34 PM (t/2Uw)

131 Basically a Tisas Hi-Power. Probably a good deal at the right price.

--

I have zero experience with other Tisas pistols, but my $300 Army reproduction 1911 has been absolutely outstanding. I would definitely bite on a similar Hi Power deal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 08:35 PM (33xmU)

132 The S&W 6xx Mountain Guns are sweet. I own a .44 and two .41s. I really regret not buying the .357.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 08:35 PM (a3Q+t)

133 Manufacturers are reporting powder shortages. There's a rumor that Alliant will not be supplying the civilian market for the foreseeable future.

-

It's the COVID chip shortage. Duh.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 08:36 PM (33xmU)

134 38 ... "Those of you approaching 29 have been through one or more ammo droughts. Weather reports say we could be approaching another one."

I've mentioned this before. During the last two shortage situations I figured out that three smokeless powders could handle 95 percent of my shooting needs: Unique, Bullseye, and Red Dot. They may not be THE BEST powder for a specific caliber but will get the job done. Most of my shooting, handgun and rifle, is with cast bullets so I don't need atomic level magnum velocities. I also found black powder loads for 38 special, 44 special and 45 Colt. ( I get real black powder by the case so I always have a good supply.)

If I could add Varget at a rational price to the armory, I would.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 08:37 PM (zudum)

135 USCCA lists Texas as a reciprocity state for concealed carry but with limitations.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2024 08:05 PM (mzM2O)

Always check the notes on that. A lot of the permitless carry has thrown states into that category. It says of Virginia reciprocity with Texas, "(permitless carry, at least 21 years old)". So, it's "restricted" in the sense that it's 21yo, and that reciprocity isn't really necessary.

I think they need to come up with another color for those, and not call it "with limitations."

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:37 PM (AWrpC)

136 who has arrived in London and begun her trek with some great pics.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:08 PM (t/2Uw)

I read that at first as "great pies" and was really disappointed when I realized it said "pics." Maybe I shouldn't read the gun thread while hungry.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:39 PM (AWrpC)

137 Oh, I do see Duncanthrax brought it up.
Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:26 PM

Ed L confirmed it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 08:39 PM (a3Q+t)

138 >>Do any of you ever have anyone video as get your stance and grip?

Yes

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at May 26, 2024 08:40 PM (HQ9Sl)

139 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:34 PM (t/2Uw)

That threaded barrel for a suppressor sounds like the kiss of death in MD.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:40 PM (yRXSd)

140 136 I read that at first as "great pies" and was really disappointed when I realized it said "pics." Maybe I shouldn't read the gun thread while hungry.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:39 PM (AWrpC)
***
Well, every thread on this site eventually turns into a food thread...

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 08:40 PM (IQ6Gq)

141 Sharon (and all morons/ettes). BATFE is reporting remarkable turnaround times on Form 4 items - suppressors and the like. If you anticipate wanting/needing something like that (and suppressed .22 is sweet!), NOW is the time to buy.
I’m trying to get all my wants/needs before the fall, because . . . Uhh , history.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:41 PM (HDGM5)

142 Well that and the 20 round mag.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:42 PM (t/2Uw)

143 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:37 PM (AWrpC)

If it isn't straightforward I will read the state law. That sometimes is written clearly enough that humans can understand it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 08:43 PM (d9fT1)

144 There is always black powder and make your own

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2024 08:43 PM (fwDg9)

145 GWB, I think I saw that the sale to a Czech entity got quashed by congress.
Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:30 PM (HDGM5)

Good. We need certain industries in America. (And I'm also very unhappy that so many of the different brands of ammo are really produced by a single company. That has a bad future written all over it.)

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:45 PM (AWrpC)

146 I have a Ruger 10/22 which can be a backpack rifle, but Henry has a Survival rifle that is really sweet. Anyone? Bueller?

Posted by: Just sayin at May 26, 2024 08:47 PM (gnGBL)

147 I have Glocks in 4 different calibers and more than one in two of those calibers. The only reason I don't carry the G42 as my back up as it's just a bit to big for a pocket gun .
Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 08:19 PM (450a+)
If I carry a pocket gun it's a S&W Airweight .38.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 08:47 PM (NxC5+)

148 I wonder if the powder shortage will further screw up primer availability. It's been improving over the last few months but would be easy to disrupt again.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 08:48 PM (zudum)

149 I want to thank Joe Biden for making this the worst Memorial Day Weekend ever. I can only afford to BBQ Paper plates because everything else is double or triple the price. The F**king Terrorists in Gaza get to eat better then me because of that Pier I paid for..........

When Trump is POTUS again please release the IDF to do GOD'S Work.......

Posted by: Franklin Stein at May 26, 2024 08:48 PM (VYql4)

150 Well, every thread on this site eventually turns into a food thread...
Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 08:40 PM (IQ6Gq)

And, since Stormy entered the chat, bewbs, too.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:48 PM (AWrpC)

151 “ "Looking to replace my hated Bodyguard pocket backup. Is the Ruger LCP or LCP max a reliable gun?"

Caution. Fact with opinion ahead

While the LCP/Max or like pistols like the PPK are adequate, there is little reason not to instead pick the P365. You will find the length, height and weight, mags are very comparable and it’s also 9mm. I abhor the .380 as a defensive weapon choice. Even with the advancements in ammunition, I am not convinced of its efficacy. Nor its penetration and expansion capabilities. I would only make an exception for people who may have some difficulty handling the 9mm for physical reasons.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 26, 2024 08:49 PM (2rbYh)

152 Bongino talks about that Henry Survival Rifle all the time on his radio show. Says he owns one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:49 PM (t/2Uw)

153 JTB, I can’t find large rifle primers at all.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 08:50 PM (HDGM5)

154 If I carry a pocket gun it's a S&W Airweight .38.
Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 08:47 PM (NxC5+)

Mine's the .357 Bond Arms Roughneck derringer. Yeah, only 2 shots.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:51 PM (AWrpC)

155 Well, catch you all later.

Have a good one!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 26, 2024 08:51 PM (tT6L1)

156 Since I've retired, I had gotten out of the habit of carrying a concealed weapon. What with Eastern Orthodox bishop being stabbed in Australia last month, and 2 unsuccessful attempts at shooting inside churches here in the U.S. in the last few weeks, I've decided that I needed to get back in the habit; especially at church.

I'm currently carrying my old S&W Model 36, .38 Special snub-nose. It's set-up old school with round butt walnut grips plus the Tyler T-grip. I don't think the Tyler T-grips are made any more but they are a nifty invention that gives a little more surface between the trigger guard and butt. I'm not a fan of the big over-sized rubber grips on revolvers intended for concealed carry.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (pJWtt)

157 With the powder discussion, I checked MidwayUSA. Varget is available in 1 pound and 8 pound amounts, 68 bucks and 449 bucks respectively. (Ouch!) Unique, Bullseye and Red Dot are out of stock, no back order.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (zudum)

158 Bongino talks about that Henry Survival Rifle all the time on his radio show. Says he owns one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:49 PM (t/2Uw)

Just watched a video. I may have to have one.

I can't seem to get myself to buy an AR. I have the Keltec Sub 2000 in 9 ml which I have most of with Glocks. But....do I need one?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (gnGBL)

159 BTW, that roughneck is kinda like driving a manual transmission. As a few of the folks here can attest, nobody's going to take it away from me and shoot me with it because of the weird trigger pull.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (AWrpC)

160 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:49 PM (t/2Uw)

It's a modernized version of the AR-7 survival rifle from the 1960s. You'll recognize it as the rifle 007 has in the briefcase issued by Q in "From Russia With Love." Supposedly, Henry fixed a lot of the reliability problems the Charter Arms versions from the 1970s had. For around $300, it's a decent price.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:54 PM (yRXSd)

161 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (pJWtt)

Welcome back to carrying. We've discussed church carry some here - does your church have an organized team?

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:54 PM (AWrpC)

162 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an
engineer at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (pJWtt)

Our church now locks the side doors and ushers carry at the front door. I carry and here in the White Mountains. I imagine several others do. It's smart to get back to carrying these days. I would not be surprised if our priest does. Protecting the flock and all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:57 PM (gnGBL)

163 It's a modernized version of the AR-7 survival rifle from the 1960s.
Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:54 PM (yRXSd)

With the AR-15 being break apart anyway, I've been pondering why you would want a .22LR survival rifle? I suppose it IS a bit smaller. But how much so? Why not go with a lightweight barrel on an AR platform and carry a 5-10 rd magazine?

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:58 PM (AWrpC)

164 With the AR-15 being break apart anyway, I've been pondering why you would want a .22LR survival rifle? I suppose it IS a bit smaller. But how much so? Why not go with a lightweight barrel on an AR platform and carry a 5-10 rd magazine?

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:58 PM (AWrpC)

Are they easy to assemble? The Henry and Keltec are so easy.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:59 PM (gnGBL)

165 Oh, on the carrying in church arena...
I've ordered a crossdraw horizontal holster that I can snap around my belt without having to undo the belt. That will fit the need to reach into the alb (when I'm serving as lay leader or with communion) from right to left to get to anything. But, we'll have to see. M small box for holster stuff is filling up. I might need a bigger box.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:00 PM (AWrpC)

166 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (pJWtt)

Welcome back to carrying. We've discussed church carry some here - does your church have an organized team?
Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:54 PM (AWrpC)

No we don't. Obviously, this is something we're going to have figure out. Father K. is conflicted about how to deal with church security. Right now, he's not asking who's packing heat.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 09:01 PM (pJWtt)

167 Gub thread!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 26, 2024 09:01 PM (as3uC)

168 I'm out.
Thanks for the thread Weasel.
Hopefully next week I will have something interesting to report. Maybe.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 09:02 PM (t/2Uw)

169 Cannibal Bob, short answer - yes.
Longer: The AR 15 is THE ubiquitous carbine/long arm. Most everyone’s short list is 9 mm handgun, AR 15 and 12 gauge.
For self defense or offense, it will reliably take down targets out to 400-500 yards, yet also work well in close quarters. If you don’t get one, at least become familiar with the manual of arms. Better yet, get one.
If things go down hill, you will want/need one. Or two, for your better half.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 09:02 PM (HDGM5)

170 Are they easy to assemble? The Henry and Keltec are so easy.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:59 PM (gnGBL)

With the AR you place the front of the upper in the proper position and push the pin in. Then you rotate it down and push the back pin in. All AR-15s are built that way. (It's also why you can swap out an upper and use a different caliber so easily.)

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:02 PM (AWrpC)

171 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an
engineer at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (pJWtt)

Our church now locks the side doors and ushers carry at the front door. I carry and here in the White Mountains. I imagine several others do. It's smart to get back to carrying these days. I would not be surprised if our priest does. Protecting the flock and all.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:57 PM (gnGBL)

I've just been elected chairman of our parish's Worship Commission, and I'm recommending that we lock our doors once Mass starts. If your late for Mass, tough luck.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 09:03 PM (pJWtt)

172 JTB, I can’t find large rifle primers at all.
Posted by: RI Red

Ammoseek is listing 33 hits for large rifle primers $100+/k.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 26, 2024 09:03 PM (cOq4q)

173 Hopefully next week I will have something interesting to report. Maybe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 09:02 PM (t/2Uw)

And in TWO weeks, it is the MoMe shooting event! Woohoo!

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:03 PM (AWrpC)

174 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:58 PM (AWrpC)

The AR-7 is a completely different design from that of the AR-15. The AR-7 disassembles so all of the parts can fit inside the buttstock, as famously described by Q to James Bond in "From Russia With Love." You'll have to find someplace else to stash your silencer and IR scope, though. The AR-7 is much more compact (and lighter) than the AR-15. And the stock, w/ all of the rifle's parts inside of it, is water-resistant if it's submerged.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:03 PM (yRXSd)

175 I will get email to you, GWB, and RMBS and Doof this week with details.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 09:05 PM (t/2Uw)

176 153 ... I wasn't looking for large rifle primers. Just did a quick check and can't find any at the usual suspects: Midway, Natchez, Midsouth, etc. Small rifle and pistol primers are easier to find.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 09:05 PM (zudum)

177 173 Hopefully next week I will have something interesting to report. Maybe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice

That never stops me from bloviating! Sounds like you are going to be getting another little friend, Sharon. Whoot!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 09:06 PM (8Xlir)

178 JTB, I can’t find large rifle primers at all.
Posted by: RI Red

Ammoseek is listing 33 hits for large rifle primers $100+/k.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Beebe and Miwall are the only two venders I recognize on the list though. I think it was $135. If I needed them I'd go for it.
Off brands are cheaper from other venders.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 26, 2024 09:06 PM (cOq4q)

179 And the stock, w/ all of the rifle's parts inside of it, is water-resistant if it's submerged.

Not just water resistant but buoyant, something you can't say about an AR-15 or a 10/22 take-down.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 09:07 PM (/y8xj)

180 Oh, and to link the earlier bit about ammo production not being sold, and my bit about a holster...
The holster I've ordered is from Falco. They are a Czech company that makes decent holsters for a decent price. I haven't yet dipped into their leather holsters, but the soft fabric one I purchased for my .45 1911 (SoB carry) has been great so far. They handmake them, I think, so it takes a little bit to ship.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:07 PM (AWrpC)

181 For those interested, Natchez Shooters Supply is having a sale on many powders INCLUDING Varget which is in stock. Might be worth checking out. The prices still make me wince but my expectations are several years out of date.

Posted by: JTB at May 26, 2024 09:10 PM (zudum)

182 Sounds like you are going to be getting another little friend, Sharon. Whoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 09:06 PM (8Xlir)

Now I'm picturing SWA with a automatic rifle with a grenade launcher.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:10 PM (AWrpC)

183 It's a modernized version of the AR-7 survival rifle from the 1960s.
Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 08:54 PM (yRXSd)

With the AR-15 being break apart anyway, I've been pondering why you would want a .22LR survival rifle? I suppose it IS a bit smaller. But how much so? Why not go with a lightweight barrel on an AR platform and carry a 5-10 rd magazine?
Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 08:58 PM (AWrpC)

The AR-7 predates the AR-15/M-16. According to Wiki (so that means it's obviously trustworthy!!!), the AR-7 came out in 1959. The alternatives would have rather limited.

There is a variant of the M-4 that is prepacked in a "spam can" that can be stored within an ejection seat now. That's been recently developed for the U.S. Air Force.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 26, 2024 09:11 PM (pJWtt)

184 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:00 PM (AWrpC)

The 9 Hole Reviews You Tube channel has a series of videos that look at modernizing the MP5K-PDW platform to make it as compact and lightweight as possible but adds newer features such as a red dot sight, collapsible stock, and a mount for a tactical light. The build can fit inside of a laptop case (I think they used the VanQuest Gofer 15) fitted w/ a 15 round magazine in the weapon and two 30 round magazines clipped together as reloads.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:11 PM (yRXSd)

185 And the stock, w/ all of the rifle's parts inside of it, is water-resistant if it's submerged.

Not just water resistant but buoyant, something you can't say about an AR-15 or a 10/22 take-down.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 09:07 PM (/y8xj)

Good points, all.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:12 PM (AWrpC)

186 I can't seem to get myself to buy an AR. I have the Keltec Sub 2000 in 9 ml which I have most of with Glocks. But....do I need one?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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Here is the correct answer:

80percentarms.com

and

https://tinyurl.com/23oq33p4

(there is also a 10" barrel available - it's a braced pistol, so no class III requirements although you might want to wait for the SCOTUS to finally rule on the ATF overreach)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:14 PM (33xmU)

187 Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:11 PM (yRXSd)

Wow. That would be one way to go - particularly if your survival needs were more urban.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:14 PM (AWrpC)

188 It's good for people to ask and know which friends are carrying at church. You probably already do, but confirm and choose seating positions accordingly. We've got groups of two - separate from the security folks - at each entrance that worked out that way almost entirely on their own but with the understanding of why those seats are good for those folks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:17 PM (33xmU)

189 Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:17 PM (33xmU)

With the consideration that there are almost NO "good seats" in most churches (or theaters) with all the entrances behind everyone. It takes deliberate thought to deal with that.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:19 PM (AWrpC)

190 Also, a good argument for having actual pews in your church. Ours are inch thick oak - so cover, not just concealment.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:20 PM (AWrpC)

191 With the consideration that there are almost NO "good seats" in most churches (or theaters) with all the entrances behind everyone. It takes deliberate thought to deal with that.
Posted by: GWB

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Yeah, we're fortunate in that our church is very simple with two doors on the side and one big one in back. Anyone sitting in the wings can see the opposite door and main entrance (moreso than the one they're right next to), but will also be right on top of anyone entering near them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:22 PM (33xmU)

192 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:07 PM (AWrpC)

I have two Falco leather holsters.

The first was an IWB for a 911 Commander. I am very pleased with it.

The second is an IWB tuckable for a Sig P365. I hate it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 09:22 PM (d9fT1)

193 So the AR 7 is a 22LR?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:23 PM (gnGBL)

194 Not just water resistant but buoyant, something you can't say about an AR-15 or a 10/22 take-down.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 09:07 PM

This ties in with a recently-released study that the oceans rise is not due to global warming, but the large number of weapons that have been and are being lost in canoe accidents.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 09:23 PM (a3Q+t)

195 For anyone interested, Midsouth Shooters Supply has no Hazmat fee thru tomorrow night, $99 minimum. Midway USA has 10% off. Missed Powder Valley $0 hazmat Friday.
Starting my pre election prudence buying.

Posted by: R Hill at May 26, 2024 09:23 PM (eZBb2)

196 “ The 9 Hole Reviews You Tube channel has a series of videos that look at modernizing the MP5K-PDW platform to make it as compact and lightweight as possible but adds newer features such as a red dot sight, collapsible stock, and a mount for a tactical light”

In other words, try to make it into the KH9, only longer and heavier.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2024 09:25 PM (TiOvb)

197 So the AR 7 is a 22LR?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:23 PM (gnGBL)

Yes.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:26 PM (AWrpC)

198 Thank you, Weasel, for another Gun Thread!

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:27 PM (AWrpC)

199 https://tinyurl.com/23oq33p4

(there is also a 10" barrel available - it's a braced pistol, so no class III requirements although you might want to wait for the SCOTUS to finally rule on the ATF overreach)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:14 PM (33xm

That seems like it. Thank you. I have 5 acres should the SHTF. That seems right.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:27 PM (gnGBL)

200 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2024 09:26 PM (0FoWg)

Doesn't have to be Allah. Could be hormones and genital mutilation.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:28 PM (AWrpC)

201 Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:14 PM (AWrpC)

The first video (about 30 minutes) is well worth watching. The big downside is, of course, the cost. MP5 clones aren't super cheap. And, if you decide to roll w/ it, you have to go SBR/Form 1 on it. But you have to SBR it in order to use key features (collapsing stock, vertical foregrip). If you'll be at the range the Sunday after the MoMe, I'm planning on bringing my SP5K-PDW that incorporates some of these features.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:28 PM (yRXSd)

202 Yes.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:26 PM (AWrpC)

Thanks.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:28 PM (gnGBL)

203 158 Bongino talks about that Henry Survival Rifle all the time on his radio show. Says he owns one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 26, 2024 08:49 PM (t/2Uw)

Just watched a video. I may have to have one.

I can't seem to get myself to buy an AR. I have the Keltec Sub 2000 in 9 ml which I have most of with Glocks. But....do I need one?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 08:53 PM (gnGBL)
Bought one mumbleyears ago. In the safe, never been shot. It's a survival rifle, not a battle rifle.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 09:29 PM (NxC5+)

204 If you'll be at the range the Sunday after the MoMe, I'm planning on bringing my SP5K-PDW that incorporates some of these features.
Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:28 PM (yRXSd)

But, of course!

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:30 PM (AWrpC)

205 Got some range time in today with my M&P 40 bump in the night gun and Ruger 22/45. No hiccups with the M&P which is good. The Ruger didn’t like a couple of the Browning 22s I fed it which is ok because I think that’s crap ammo anyways. Ran flawlessly with my old standby CCI Blazer and some Norma Tac-22 I had. The Norma had some sort of waxy or oily coating on it that I didn’t care for.

Also American Reloading had some small pistol primers that supposedly have hard cups so they were selling for ~4.5 cents each. Bought two cases, figure maybe they could stand in for small rifle if the cups are too hard.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at May 26, 2024 09:31 PM (3XcKk)

206 Hey Nurse, how is your recovery coming along? Hope you're feeling better.

Posted by: Grateful at May 26, 2024 09:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

207 And, we've already beat the Food Thread, as a FYI.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:32 PM (AWrpC)

208 That seems like it. Thank you. I have 5 acres should the SHTF. That seems right.

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I can say that it's trivially easy to ring steel at 100 yards with tiny barrels on the MPK and MP5s, and I'd imagine your Sub 2000 is similar. I think a proper rifle round in that platform, even though the velocity won't be quite up to 16" barrel goodness (investigating the 10" might be worthwhile if that's a concern), would be a great in-between if you are on the fence about getting one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:32 PM (33xmU)

209 Man, I wanted to buy one of those sub-2000s. I passed on it because I don't really need it, it would just be a toy for me, and the money would've pissed off my wife at that particular moment. But I still kinda want one of them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2024 09:33 PM (0FoWg)

210 Weasel you magnificent bastard. Thanks!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:33 PM (gnGBL)

211 207 And, we've already beat the Food Thread, as a FYI.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:32 PM (AWrpC)
***
Hooray!

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 09:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

212 Punching out. Thanks for another great Gub Thread, Weasel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2024 09:35 PM (eTQxg)

213 Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2024 09:25 PM (TiOvb)

The MP5K/MP5K-PDW are about as compact as you can get w/ a PCC/SMG without getting into something like a Vz 61 Scorpion or Micro-Uzi. And the MP5K/MP5K-PDW are likely more accurate than the Scorpion or Micro-Uzi. The ability of KH9 to fold up can help its compactness, though.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:35 PM (yRXSd)

214 I sent an email to CMP Friday, asking if they got my forms for the M1. I'm hoping to hear something so I know my paperwork isn't just lost out there somewhere. I should have FedEx-ed them instead of USPS.

Posted by: GWB at May 26, 2024 09:35 PM (AWrpC)

215 I want to say that some big name has come out with a new pistol caliber carbine in the last few months to compete with the $1000 or so Scorpions and such, but I can't for the life of me remember who it is and nothing is coming up in searches.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:36 PM (33xmU)

216 209 Man, I wanted to buy one of those sub-2000s. I passed on it because I don't really need it, it would just be a toy for me, and the money would've pissed off my wife at that particular moment. But I still kinda want one of them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2024 09:33 PM (0FoWg)

If you do get one, stick to 9mm. I have a gen 1 in 40 and it is not pleasant to shoot.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at May 26, 2024 09:37 PM (3XcKk)

217 It's good for people to ask and know which friends are carrying at church. You probably already do, but confirm and choose seating positions accordingly. . .
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Yep - good idea. Our 'Safety Team' has a pretty good idea of who is carrying but, The real issue would be if an incident occurs and LEO shows up. Even though we all know one another, they will not have the time to ID good guys/bad guys by sight alone. Our armed team wears red lanyards to help out with the identification but it is an ongoing concern.

Additionally, all of our doors are locked and manned during all of the services along with parking lot observers. We are all connected by radios. That helps.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 26, 2024 09:37 PM (WXNFJ)

218 would be a great in-between if you are on the fence about getting one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:32 PM (33xmU)

We have Heidi's dad's 308 f we need it, but that sounds like something I'd like to have. Thanks much.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:38 PM (gnGBL)

219 Also punch out time. Thx, weasel and all gubbers.

Posted by: RI Red at May 26, 2024 09:38 PM (HDGM5)

220 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:38 PM (yRXSd)

221 +1 to thanking Weasel. This place is the best.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:39 PM (33xmU)

222 190 Also, a good argument for having actual pews in your church. Ours are inch thick oak - so cover, not just concealment.
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pew-pew-pew

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 26, 2024 09:39 PM (ZdexC)

223 Thanks all y'all. Appreciate your being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday. Will have an update on the sword next week so be sure to tune in.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2024 09:40 PM (HBuMf)

224 Thanks horde and thank you Weasel-san.

Posted by: TRex at May 26, 2024 09:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

225 Thanks Weasel, looking forward to the sword report.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 26, 2024 09:42 PM (BEFG1)

226 For anyone who was following the story: Cow #88 has passed away.

Farmer/rancher Clay Scott did a remarkable job bringing this story to a broad population who otherwise would not know the first thing about what ranchers do day in and day out and giving them a first-class education.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 26, 2024 09:42 PM (3ImbR)

227 223 Thanks all y'all. Appreciate your being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday. Will have an update on the sword next week so be sure to tune in.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2024 09:40 PM (HBuMf)
I smooth forgot to ask about the sword.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 09:42 PM (NxC5+)

228 Looking forward to the update on the sword, Weasel.

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:44 PM (yRXSd)

229 “ Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:35 PM (yRXSd)”

I’ve become a big fan of B&T. They make an excellent platform are very responsive to the needs of their users. The APC is a magnificent platform and that’s where a lot of their .mil stuff really started to excel. The KH9 partially came out of the GHM and was based on a lot of target user feedback. I have no doubt they will continue to improve it.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2024 09:45 PM (TiOvb)

230 Sword?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:46 PM (gnGBL)

231 Wow, when looking for the new PCC I discovered that the Military Armament Corporation name has been bought (resurrected?) and the new company is making MP5 clones.

https://tinyurl.com/28vmsqdo

I don't need one (that role is already filled), but I would possibly consider it if they were under $1000.

If one was offered in .45 I wouldn't think twice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:47 PM (33xmU)

232 My wife’s carry gun for a long time was the little Sig in.380. LCP came out and she got one for her birthday. When the LCP 2 arrived she got a Christmas upgrade. Her main problem is that her hands are getting just arthritic enough that running the slide on the smaller guns is getting hard, and nothing larger is going to disappear on 4’11” and 98 lbs. The LCP 2 is a tremendous upgrade over the original in terms of feel and trigger pull. We kept the LCP 1 because the trade in was nil.

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 26, 2024 09:47 PM (TEkdf)

233 Man, it's raining buckets here right now, and there's a double rainbow that touches ground not a quarter mile away. No pots of gold to be seen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2024 09:48 PM (nK4uM)

234 I smooth forgot to ask about the sword.
Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2024 09:42 PM (NxC5+
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No worries amigo. Will have something in the thread next week.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2024 09:48 PM (HBuMf)

235 Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2024 09:45 PM (TiOvb)

Any thoughts about the BWC-9 they just released?

Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:49 PM (yRXSd)

236 Eli Kopter. I'm still LOL.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 26, 2024 09:50 PM (as3uC)

237 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2024 09:46 PM (gnGBL)
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take a peek at last weeks thread

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2024 09:50 PM (HBuMf)

238 Weasel, enjoy all that organic tree farmin , ya hear.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 09:51 PM (Fy8cO)

239 This ties in with a recently-released study that the oceans rise is not due to global warming, but the large number of weapons that have been and are being lost in canoe accidents.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 26, 2024 09:23 PM (a3Q+t)

Duncanthrax is The Science™ here.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at May 26, 2024 09:51 PM (v23vE)

240
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2024 09:51 PM (Fy8cO)
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Absolutely

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2024 09:52 PM (HBuMf)

241 “ Posted by: Ed L at May 26, 2024 09:49 PM (yRXSd)”

I find it a little clunky and gimmicky. But that’s just me. I feel like there are better choices if your objectives align with those capabilities.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2024 09:55 PM (TiOvb)

242 If one was offered in .45 I wouldn't think twice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:47 PM (33xmU)

Yup. .45ACP is the PPC of my dreams.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2024 09:59 PM (d9fT1)

243 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2024 09:33 PM (0FoWg)

Especially fun with the Glock 33 round mags.

Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 09:59 PM (450a+)

244 Her main problem is that her hands are getting just arthritic enough that running the slide on the smaller guns is getting hard

Check out a gadget called the Handi-Racker. I mean, you're probably not going to carry one around with you but I don't recall the last time I had to rack a pistol except at home or the range.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 26, 2024 10:00 PM (/y8xj)

245 Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 09:47 PM (33xmU)

Get the Hi Point .45 carbine. It's a disposable PCC. Except they seem to go forever. And you can pretend you are on the Planet of the Apes,

Posted by: polynikes at May 26, 2024 10:04 PM (450a+)

246 Ha. I have nothing against Hi Points at all. The one that I've got some familiarity with appears to be built like a brick ****house and I'm told has been reliable as all get out.

I like the small PCC platforms for all-around home defense, though. The short Mossberg is my first choice, but the PCC can hang from a couple of magnets behind the bed at night and not have to worry about navigating doorways.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - without abortion the black population would be 36 percent larger at May 26, 2024 10:07 PM (33xmU)

247 Her main problem is that her hands are getting just arthritic enough that running the slide on the smaller guns is getting hard

Wheel gun ftw

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 26, 2024 10:14 PM (wZB1K)

248 Late to the party as usual but I am getting back in the habit of carrying the G26 around again. As soon as I clock out to go home, the G26 enters the holster until I get home.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 27, 2024 02:51 AM (xgbJW)

249 Men landed on the Beach as Normandy so Americans today can enjoy their day at the Beach

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