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Biden "Accepts" Offer to Debate, With Special Conditions to Protect Biden; Trump, for Some Lunatic Reason, Accepts His Terms

Your first offer is accepted without reservations!

This guy wrote The Art of the Deal?


President Joe Biden has finally agreed to participate in debates with former President Donald Trump, two months after refusing Trump's open challenge to debate "Anytime, anywhere, anyplace." The decision comes amid Biden's cratering poll numbers in swing-states, though the Biden camp's proposal comes with significant guardrails for the gaffe-prone president.

Key Details:

The Biden-Harris campaign proposed the debates in a letter to the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, breaking the tradition of three fall meetings organized by the commission.

The proposed dates for the debates are in late June and early September, with a vice presidential debate to occur in late July.

The Biden proposal includes specific conditions such as no audience, no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking, and only Biden-friendly news outlets can moderate.

...

The Biden-Harris campaign's proposal for the debates was outlined in a letter to the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. This move breaks away from the decades-old tradition of three fall meetings organized by the debate commission. The first debate is proposed to be in late June, after Trump's New York criminal trial is likely to be over and after Biden returns from meeting with world leaders at the G7 Summit. A second presidential debate would occur in September prior to the beginning of early voting. The campaign also proposed a vice presidential debate to occur in late July after the Republicans nominate their vice presidential candidate.

However, the Biden proposal includes some significant guardrails for the gaffe-prone president. These include no audience, no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking, and only Biden-friendly news outlets can moderate (CBS, ABC, CNN, or Telemundo).

Telemundo? Fantastic.

Trump, who has been vocal about his readiness to debate Biden, responded to the proposal on Truth Social Wednesday morning, saying, "It's time for a debate so that he can explain to the American People his highly destructive Open Border Policy, new and ridiculous EV Mandates, the allowance of Crushing Inflation, High Taxes, and his really WEAK Foreign Policy, which is allowing the World to 'Catch on Fire.'"

I've got a bad feeling about this. Chris Wallace did a lot to hurt Trump. The leftwing media is salivating to do that again, even harder this time.

Trump doesn't even need these debates -- Biden needs them. So Trump had all the leverage to set terms.

Instead, he let Biden set the terms. Trump will be debating CNN, CBS, and Telemundo more than Biden. They won't let Trump engage with Biden and will answer on behalf of Biden at every turn.


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Update:

Reading Trump's Truth Social post, it sounds like he is only agreeing to the time. Where is it that he agrees to the other conditions? Trump clearly says he prefers a large venue (i.e. a big audience).

Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Well, let's hope. But this is being posted on MXM News, a Trump-friendly outfit.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:00 PM




Comments

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1

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 15, 2024 12:01 PM (X4yCj)

2 I think Trump is calling his bluff

Posted by: It's me donna at May 15, 2024 12:02 PM (Akjoo)

3 Fox and the NBCs are now too right-wing for Biden?

I need a parachute for this slippery slope.

Posted by: mikeski at May 15, 2024 12:02 PM (DgGvY)

4 I just do not understand Trump. If you shoot yourself in the foot once, it's an accident.

Twice makes you an idiot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 15, 2024 12:03 PM (AJDwy)

5 Will Trump be required to wear a ball gag?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 15, 2024 12:03 PM (JLq/1)

6 I think that Trump's assumption is that Biden is so far gone that even with the debate completely rigged, Biden will still collapse on stage.

Watch the Biden campaign walk back even this pathetic offer.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 15, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)

7 4-D chess!

Or a Batman Gambit, I don't know.

Maybe he's counting on the Junta cancelling anyway.

Or will cancel, himself, saying "The judge has me in this courtroom all day. Sorry, can't make it, so sad."

We'll see.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 15, 2024 12:04 PM (ou9hh)

8 Hi Ace
I'm here.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:04 PM (t/2Uw)

9 Trump, for Some Lunatic Reason, Accepts His Terms

========

I keep suspecting that Biden's team will find reason to not debate, so Trump's team accepting feels low risk.

Besides, it's unclear that debates have much effect anymore with the 24/7/365 political news cycle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

10 Don't get it. Trump could've gleefully milked this to point out just how scared Biden was of an open and unbiased debate.

Posted by: Biergood at May 15, 2024 12:05 PM (PwgSL)

11 With the right drug cocktail, Biden can survive. We never thought he'd make it through a SoTU speech.

Betting on your opponent making huge mistakes is not a strategy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 15, 2024 12:05 PM (AJDwy)

12 meh

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 15, 2024 12:05 PM (tQtDb)

13 Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for him...

Posted by: Pepper Brooks at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (P5BPp)

14 How many jump skips in Joetao's 13 seconds of tough guy? 5

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (17s+e)

15 The conditions don't matter. Sponge-brain will show exactly how decrepit he is. He'll either be so hopped up that he just yells like a man howling at the moon or be so stupid it can't be hidden.

I believe that is the point Trump is making.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (jpjFa)

16 I love how many jump-cuts are in the Biden 'make my day' clip.

What a fucking retard.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (/nCD+)

17 Trump's attitude of "always attack at all times everywhere in all directions" has always been dumb, but especially so in the arena of politics. Strategery is what's required here and by agreeing to let the networks bitchslap him up one side and down the other while doing their level best to protect Biden helps him how?

"Oh, it shows in real time that the networks protect Biden!"

Even the asleep normies know that, chief. This helps everyone but Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (kIwCj)

18 Trump should require that his team be allowed to tape the entire debate.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:07 PM (3ImbR)

19 Erdogan explains that if the Joooos are allowed to conquer Gaza, they'll move on to conquering Turkey:

“Don’t assume that Israel will stop in Gaza. If not stopped, this rogue state, this terrorist state, will sooner or later set its sights on Turkey with its delusions about a promised land”

- President Erdogan

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 15, 2024 12:07 PM (uxCna)

20 I suspect that Trump thinks that the longer that Joe rambles, the more likely he is to either completely snap and have a roomba moment or say something that Trump can weaponize. And it's not like Fox would be one iota better for Trump than any of the other organizations listed, or, in fact, that any publicly recognized group would be.

Posted by: American Hawkman at May 15, 2024 12:07 PM (skAOD)

21 I love how many jump-cuts are in the Biden 'make my day' clip.
What a fucking retard.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:06 PM (/nCD+)
~~~~~

Five cuts in just 14 seconds. Unbelievable.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (3ImbR)

22 Let's get ready to MUMBLE (and poop our pants)!!!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (VWZjt)

23 "I've got a bad feeling about this."

It's quiet. A little too quiet ...

Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (MvF+J)

24 NATO's biggest standing army thinks that little old Israel is going to attack Turkey?

That is some good hash they be smokin.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (17s+e)

25 5 Will Trump be required to wear a ball gag?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 15, 2024 12:03 PM (JLq/1)

One possibility is Trump is going to push them to over react, cut his mic and make it an obvious sheetshow. Biden is so prone to outbursts, Trump may be be hoping to goad him into doing something over the top.

Getting down in the mud is Trump's milieu. He'll probably enjoy himself.

I'm not saying this is a great idea and he'll come out better for it, we'll see. But that is right up Trump's alley.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (z+89e)

26 20 I suspect that Trump thinks that the longer that Joe rambles, the more likely he is to either completely snap and have a roomba moment or say something that Trump can weaponize. And it's not like Fox would be one iota better for Trump than any of the other organizations listed, or, in fact, that any publicly recognized group would be.
Posted by: American Hawkman at May 15, 2024 12:07 PM (skAOD


But all that could happen with an audience, with more favorable networks, etc. Trump had zero reason to do this.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (AJDwy)

27
No win situation. Trump will get nothing but 'gotcha' questions while Biden will have to name his favorite ice cream flavor.

It's fun to watch the daily videos of Biden arriving or departing somewhere. The obscenities directed at him from everyday folks aren't even repeatable here at this family oriented blog.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 12:09 PM (RKVpM)

28 6 I think that Trump's assumption is that Biden is so far gone that even with the debate completely rigged, Biden will still collapse on stage.

Watch the Biden campaign walk back even this pathetic offer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 15, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)
--------

Why would he walk it back. He's got everything he wants including Democrat hack moderators who will run interference for Joe. They'll answer the questions for him.

Furthermore, those moderators will cut Trumps mic off every time try's to make a point and call it "Misinformation!"

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:09 PM (G0vdT)

29 It seems the same people are advising Trump as did in 2020. He has learned absolutely nothing the last four years.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:09 PM (aFNOf)

30 I see Joe has gone the assertion of facts not in evidence route again.

PDT doing anything other than accepting the debate, as is, would create a media firestorm. The Junta was looking for a reason to vilify PDT because he demanded certain conditions.

PDT also turns down the debate, same scenario. I'm not sure the Junta really wants a debate and counted on PDT doing anything but accepting the debate as is.

We shall see.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:09 PM (tT6L1)

31 For a short period of time we had a CIA that would arrange something bad to happen to Erdogan. That goat fucker even shares my birthday, along with Johnny Cash.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:09 PM (V5eKu)

32 "I've got a bad feeling about this."

It's quiet. A little too quiet ...
Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM


And then the murders started.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (FAGAJ)

33 Could it be that Team Trump thinks that this is the only way Biden will come out of his basement poop hole?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (17s+e)

34 Reading Trump's Truth Social post, it sounds like he is only agreeing to the time. Where is it that he agrees to the other conditions? Trump clearly says he prefers a large venue (I.e. a big audience).

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (2fIO4)

35 Everyone on X pointing out that there are 5 jump cuts in a 14 second video of Biden. He looks like a jerk and his "troll" of Trump feeds into everyone's understanding that these trials are all orchestrated by his adminsitration.
I watched part of his speech to the Asian Pacific dinner thing and he couldn't even read the teleprompter. He won;t have a teleprompter at a debate. Maybe they could hype him up enough to give a state of the union reading off a giant teleprompter but no drug cocktail is going to help him on a live broadcast no matter how favorable the conditions.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)

36 RNC Research @RNCResearch 12h
Biden is VERY CONFUSED tonight 😳

https://tinyurl.com/ms5r9aa4
14 seconds

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 6m
A gag order on Biden would help Biden's campaign.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (ZdexC)

37 My guess is that Trump feels Biden won't be able to keep it together and those who may still hold out hope that Biden does just have a stutter will have to admit that they're wrong.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (KbCG3)

38 There aren't enough drugs in the world to prepare Biden to debate a lamp.

Posted by: huerfano at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (VGOMa)

39 this morning i found that my usual burger king breakfast costs 50% more than it did the last time i bought it, just a few days ago. i see much instant oatmeal in my future.

thanks, biden and governor awesome!

Posted by: anachronda at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (v3pYe)

40 Populist prime minister of Slovakia has been shot. First of many, I suspect.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (lTGtQ)

41 One possibility is Trump is going to push them to over react, cut his mic and make it an obvious sheetshow. Biden is so prone to outbursts, Trump may be be hoping to goad him into doing something over the top.

Getting down in the mud is Trump's milieu. He'll probably enjoy himself.

I'm not saying this is a great idea and he'll come out better for it, we'll see. But that is right up Trump's alley.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 15, 2024 12:08 PM (z+89e)
--------------

He tried that in 2020 and it backfired.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (G0vdT)

42 Your first offer is accepted without reservations! This guy wrote The Art of the Deal? - Ace

Exactly. What a FU. My forehead is going to show bruises to tomorrow from smacking my forehead right after this cockup waFirst question to President Bidens announced.

Who is hosting these? It appears that CNN and ABC will, totally not biased operations.

First question to President Biden: Thank you for Bidenomics. What is the greatest threat to America, after President Trump?

First question to President Trump: Do you think your being orange and wearing an orange jumpsuit is a fashion disaster?

Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (Amk6c)

43 It's not like Trump doesn't already know questions that stump or frustrate Biden. "When did Beau die?" fries the codger's brain for goodness sake.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (OYxA4)

44 oh I hear youre free on wednesdays. sick burn man!

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (CIS44)

45 Erdogan explains that if the Joooos are allowed to conquer Gaza, they'll move on to conquering Turkey:

“Don’t assume that Israel will stop in Gaza. If not stopped, this rogue state, this terrorist state, will sooner or later set its sights on Turkey with its delusions about a promised land”

- President Erdogan
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 15, 2024 12:07 PM


Tell me again why these people are still in NATO?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (FAGAJ)

46 Democracy update!

When will Ukrainian Elections occur? Blinken explains the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind.

Lord Bebo
@MyLordBebo
Elections in Ukraine will take place when all Ukrainians can vote, all of them. - Blinken
'So as long as Russia holds territories, there will not be an election, even if there is a long term ceasefire or peace.'

-
Stand back! He's democratizing!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

47 It's not lunatic.

In their minds Trump was going to refuse to debate so they could bullcrap about him being 'scared'.

We all know they're never going to let Biden actually take the stage with Trump (unless this is their way of getting rid of him by demonstrating how demented he is).

Trump is calling his coward's bluff.

This is no different from Biden challenging people to a fight that he knows his SS goons would never let happen.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (setIA)

48 38 There's always balance of nature and the stuff that comes from the clear waters of New Zealand. And meth.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (V5eKu)

49 34 Reading Trump's Truth Social post, it sounds like he is only agreeing to the time. Where is it that he agrees to the other conditions? Trump clearly says he prefers a large venue (I.e. a big audience).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (2fIO4)

========

Yeah, Trump seems to have only agreed to the timing while recommending more and a different venue without mentioning the moderators.

This doesn't feel like Trump accepting everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

50 Trump, for Some Lunatic Reason, Accepts His Terms
—Disinformation Expert Ace


Happens every 4 years regardless of the candidate.

The Uniparty Gope is and will betray you.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (BY8dN)

51 I have a little different take: Joey Showers made this "offer" with the expectation and hope that Trump would decline. Then Showers and his media whores would squeal "Trump won't debate Biden!"

Showers' offer was basically a bluff. Trump essentially called that bluff. I'm not sure what other option Trump had given what I say above. Yes, the terms suck. But when do they ever not suck for the GOP? You can have a debate with the terms set solely by the GOP . . . and the terms would still suck.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

52 Reading Trump's Truth Social post, it sounds like he is only agreeing to the time. Where is it that he agrees to the other conditions? Trump clearly says he prefers a large venue (I.e. a big audience).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

good point but this is being run on MXM News, which is run by Don Jr. It sounds like they're accepting. But maybe you're right.

Posted by: ace at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (KRtlO)

53 Seriously, look at the video that they released with him challenging Trump.

There are AT LEAST FIVE CUTS in a 14 second video. He couldn't record a 14 second video in 1 take.

He's shot, and everybody knows it.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (setIA)

54 I think that Trump's assumption is that Biden is so far gone that even with the debate completely rigged, Biden will still collapse on stage.

Watch the Biden campaign walk back even this pathetic offer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 15, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)

This was Trump's assumption during the first debate in 2020, and it did not pan out. Biden didn't collapse and shit himself, and Trump came out looking like an ass - note that Trump changed tactics for the next debates.

Yes, Biden's further gone, and yes, America has had 4 years of Biden's diaper-fire (vice dumpster-fire). Still, though, I wouldn't bet against Biden getting through it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (/nCD+)

55 What hurts Trump more?

Demanding a fair debate or spending two hours getting his squeakhole reamed by three media outlets and Biden on a national stage?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (AJDwy)

56 This all looks like it was coordinated with CNN and ABC
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden

I've also received and accepted an invitation to a debate hosted by ABC on Tuesday, September 10th.

Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (NpAcC)

57 38 There's always balance of nature and the stuff that comes from the clear waters of New Zealand. And meth.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM


But mostly meth.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (FAGAJ)

58 The Biden proposal includes specific conditions such as no audience, no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking, and only Biden-friendly news outlets can moderate.
++++
That's top-notch Our Democracy right there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (d04cU)

59 I think the critical thing is that it be a live debate, as long as it's live there's only so much they can do to juice Biden up and rig it

If it's not live then WTF Trumpy

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (VTu1l)

60 53 Seriously, look at the video that they released with him challenging Trump.

There are AT LEAST FIVE CUTS in a 14 second video. He couldn't record a 14 second video in 1 take.

He's shot, and everybody knows it.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (setIA)

========

It's in a style of going between close up to medium shot. It's pretty standard in short-form videos now. It's kind of annoying.

It could just be an effort to mimic the style and appeal to the fellow kids. Biden's position from cut to cut seems really close.

I dunno.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

61 The Biden proposal includes specific conditions such as no audience, no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking, and only Biden-friendly news outlets can moderate.

Does this also mean that Biden cannot interrupt President Trump when he is speaking?

My guess is that Biden will be told by his handlers to only read what he is given and then be quiet. And the moderators will all handle President Trump by interrupting him all the time and trying to "fact-check" him on the spot. So Biden can just sit back and not have to do anything other than read note cards or teleprompters. Or have answers fed to him in an ear piece.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (P5BPp)

62 2 I think Trump is calling his bluff
Posted by: It's me donna


Agreed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (tH3ut)

63 35 Everyone on X pointing out that there are 5 jump cuts in a 14 second video of Biden. He looks like a jerk and his "troll" of Trump feeds into everyone's understanding that these trials are all orchestrated by his adminsitration.
I watched part of his speech to the Asian Pacific dinner thing and he couldn't even read the teleprompter. He won;t have a teleprompter at a debate. Maybe they could hype him up enough to give a state of the union reading off a giant teleprompter but no drug cocktail is going to help him on a live broadcast no matter how favorable the conditions.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)
-------------------

I made the point yesterday that Biden has 40 years of experience doing debates. The format is so shallow that he'll be able to draw the same answers he's used all his life. Don't forget the dumb smirk.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (G0vdT)

64 It will be on NBC with Jen Psaki moderating.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (P9xGM)

65 @amuse @amuse 20h
LAWFARE: Is it a coincidence that the Democrat's star witness, Michael Cohen, has been working with Democrat Rep Dan Goldman to prepare for cross examination AND that Dan is a customer of acting Justice Merchan's daughter? How much is Dan paying Loren Merchan? @DonaldJTrumpJr h/t @TruthNinja316

johnny maga @_johnnymaga May 14
Rep. Goldman says he met with Michael Cohen “a number of times to prepare him”

Why is a Democrat Congressman preparing Michael Cohen?
https://tinyurl.com/25uc7nmj
7 seconds

Sean Davis @seanmdav 19h
The judge’s daughter got paid by Goldman. How on earth can you have someone who pays off the judge’s family deliberately coaching witnesses in the trial, and call it a fair trial? You can’t. This entire thing is a farce.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 15, 2024 12:14 PM (ZdexC)

66 The 2024 Westminster Best of Show was declared last night. The only thing gayer is Eurovision by a nose.

https://tinyurl.com/ru3nuzf2

Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (Amk6c)

67 I've got a bad feeling about this. Chris Wallace did a lot to hurt Trump. The leftwing media is salivating to do that again, even harder this time.
++++
#meToo

And not just press salivation, the administration is making even worse rules a precondition for it to happen at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (d04cU)

68 The 3 months between debates with one month to the 1st shows they are gonna need 30 days to set the meds and then 60 days to detox between each one...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (exHjb)

69 Just Circuses on the Titanic.

The "Debates" will have no effect on The Steal 2: Already-in Progress Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (0tX03)

70 I just do not understand Trump. If you shoot yourself in the foot once, it's an accident.

Twice makes you an idiot.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 15, 2024 12:03 PM (AJDwy)
-

Tiny feet.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (2KeGl)

71 Afternoon Ace. Biden ,if truthful would have said " make my day pal, or I'll shit my pants"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (v60bd)

72 It is a little hard to come back with conditions when you open with "anywhere anytime anyplace"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (P9xGM)

73 My real only concern is that Biden tries to pull the same stunt he did on Paul Ryan in the 2012 VP debate, and constantly interrupts, and the "friendly" moderator allows it to go on.

Otherwise, it will be a really weird time to watch Biden decompose. Of course, he will wear and ear piece, with people feeding him talking points. It would be great to have a jammer on site and ruin that.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (vcOmj)

74 I dunno. Sounds like Slow Joe kinda threw down the gauntlet with that “Trump lost to me twice” crap.

The Donald never backs down from that sort of thing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (tA1+m)

75 He's a tough hombre.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (ytSiK)

76 69 Just Circuses on the Titanic.

The "Debates" will have no effect on The Steal 2: Already-in Progress Boogaloo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (0tX03)

=======

"Trump was so poopy headed that white working class men turned against him en-masse and delivered Texas for Biden."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

77 They are going to be giving Joe the questions and answers
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden

I’ve received and accepted an invitation from
@CNN
for a debate on June 27th. Over to you, Donald. As you said: anywhere, any time, any place.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (NpAcC)

78 Meh. As if a 'debate' is going to change anyone's mind.

The right will watch to see if Teh Donald pimp-slaps Grandpa Pre-Teen Fingers. The left will watch to squirt in glee whenever Biden OWNZZ Trump with one of his focus-grouped, infinitely-rehearsed 'folksy' sayings.

Debates have been a fucking beauty show farce since Kennedy - Nixon.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (Q0kLU)

79 All Trump has to do is encourage Biden to speak more. The longer he talks the more he contradicts himself, the bigger lies he tells and the tireder he gets.

Trump can go up there and be a nice guy to Joe and let Joe hang himself.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (lCWOD)

80 Not sure I agree Trump has much to lose by debating. It's free airtime for him and Biden needs a lower rather than higher profile.

As much as the media hates him, airtime they give him has largely been a win historically(even though it was adversarial) and it was only when they stopped giving him a voice during COVID that things became quite difficult.

Posted by: Someguy's phone at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (xSjoP)

81 "no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking"

Wasn't Biden the Great Interrupter against Paul Ryan? The rule is only for Trump, it seems. Biden can interrupt at will. Trump's mic will be cut, Biden's will be turned up to talk over Trump?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

82 Given this mumbling stumblefuck's press availability, inability to go off script, ridiculous schedule and economic numbers *gestures wildly* everywhere, this should be the easiest slam dunk ever. Alas

Posted by: jhawk90 at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (ggOdn)

83 One thing is clear, Dem's are getting nervous.

This is a defensive move by the Dems.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (G0vdT)

84 "Make my day pal"
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FFS every day I can't figure out who I loathe more, Democrats or Republicans.

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (H3Mdk)

85 I can't wait to learn how this proves Trump is a master at 86-dimensional chess and is even more brilliant than we already knew he was!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (0EnJo)

86 The 3 months between debates with one month to the 1st shows they are gonna need 30 days to set the meds and then 60 days to detox between each one...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (exHjb)

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No way Biden will be around for the second one anyway -- he'll be replaced by TPTB as "The Nominee" during their August Convention -- if they even bother to have one.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (0tX03)

87 I don't understand everyone's objection here.

In what way would Trump gain by refusing Biden's debate offer? What do you think the MSM would do/say if Trump did refuse?

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (3ImbR)

88 The biggest thing Trump is likely banking on in simply the juxtaposition of speaking styles.

Ya know, where one candidate can form a sentence and the other cannot.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (KbCG3)

89 Biden looks like he's crapping himself in that video.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (i7Q7S)

90 "no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking"

Wasn't Biden the Great Interrupter against Paul Ryan? The rule is only for Trump, it seems. Biden can interrupt at will. Trump's mic will be cut, Biden's will be turned up to talk over Trump?
Posted by: illiniwek

hell, they'll cut Trump's mic on HIS time to let joey shitzpants talk over him

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (CIS44)

91
There's always balance of nature and the stuff that comes from the clear waters of New Zealand. And meth.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM

But mostly meth.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM


I knew a guy who did meth. OMG he never stopped talking, never sat down, just pumped up to 11 at every moment. I'm sure that's Joe's drug of choice.

btw: This person I knew, now has a $250,000 federal lien on his ass. So apparently he sold drugs to support his habit. Joe only sells his country to support his lifestyle.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (RKVpM)

92 The trap: Trump will obviously pick Telemundo and it will be hours of Trump overriding and steamrolling hispanic modetators and insulting them afterward for being biased.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (UYq9f)

93 The Donald never backs down from that sort of thing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (tA1+m)
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And they know it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (d04cU)

94 Here is the post debate analysis, so you don't have to watch:

Joe Biden was in prime form last night as he deftly answered criticisms about how some feel the economy could be better, while trump seemed tired, confused and lost. Really failed to connect with crucial swing state voters and couldn't name any coherent policy positions...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (P9xGM)

95 Trump can go up there and be a nice guy to Joe and let Joe hang himself.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (lCWOD)

Trump is genetically incapable of doing this.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (/nCD+)

96 Fox and the NBCs are now too right-wing for Biden?

I need a parachute for this slippery slope.
Posted by: mikeski at May 15, 2024 12:02 PM (DgGvY)

Morning Joe hardest hit.

not the intern this time...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (nXhwP)

97 The 2024 Westminster Best of Show was declared last night. The only thing gayer is Eurovision by a nose.

https://tinyurl.com/ru3nuzf2
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (Amk6c)

Well, it is the Westminster dog show, would you expect anything different ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (NtVYv)

98 The 2024 Westminster Best of Show was declared last night. The only thing gayer is Eurovision by a nose.

https://tinyurl.com/ru3nuzf2
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM (Amk6c)

___________

Even the dogs are gay . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

99 The point of this was getting the media, reluctantly and sadly, to finally admit to the world that Trump is THE one and only opposition candidate for President and there will be no "convictions" excuses to his being elected.

Agreeing to debate him as that opponent, with real dates and moderators, means that all the lawfare and its ultimate purpose is all for naught. Even CNN can't ask, "well, as a convicted felon, why should you even be President?" because the response is, "well, if you thought I shouldn't, then why are you here and giving me a debate as if I should be?"

Posted by: Boswell at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (K+UlC)

100 83 One thing is clear, Dem's are getting nervous.

This is a defensive move by the Dems.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (G0vdT)

"We need to make him an offer he can refuse."

"Shit, he didn't refuse."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (KbCG3)

101 god I truly hate joetato

think you're a big man, don't you, you pervy thug

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM (s3qiR)

102 19
‘ they'll move on to conquering Turkey: ’

Good. They can flush Erdogan down the toilet first.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM (jbnUc)

103 The Marty Seinfeld strategy.

Keep the old guy in attendance late beyond dinner hour. He will check out.

Posted by: Redenzo at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM (V/pbu)

104 On Telemundo in Spanish.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM (P9xGM)

105 Agreeing to debate him as that opponent, with real dates and moderators, means that all the lawfare and its ultimate purpose is all for naught

ooh very good point Boswell!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM (s3qiR)

106 Joe will begin by soiling himself.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (JLq/1)

107 Brain dead Biden is trying to goad Trump into a debate. Biden needs the debate, Trump does not. Trump should not take the bait.

Trump should make his own demands.

(1) Two moderators- one chosen by Brain Dead Biden, one chosen by Trump.

(2) Drug testing prior and immediately after the debate.

(3) Public venue with a big audience.


That will scare off the corpse Joe Biden.

Posted by: Sandy Vigilante at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (wvn6O)

108 Biden sounds ridiculous with the make my day. Let’s get ready to rumble isn’t much better. Dear heavens, there is so much for this president to answer for, please Trump, just let him talk. Hand him the rope a foot at a time.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (pZEOD)

109 One of the only things that Biden had going for him in 2020 was that he was "likeable". He is not the least bit likeable in this video. He seems to think that when he offers to fight someone it makes him look tough. Hey, fat. Dog faced pony soldier. Instead it makes him look small and mean.
He is getting smaller every day. The "mean" is just pathetic.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (t/2Uw)

110 "They are going to be giving Joe the questions and answers"

I still think Hillary was getting messages on her screen at her lectern. There were studies and everything, and some guy came in right after and removed some device from under the lectern.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (Cus5s)

111 >>>This is a defensive move by the Dems.
~~~~~

Agree 100%. Made to look like an offensive move, but not gonna work.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (3ImbR)

112 NATO's biggest standing army thinks that little old Israel is going to attack Turkey?

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But not only Turkey. There must be mashed potatoes too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (L/fGl)

113 94 Here is the post debate analysis, so you don't have to watch:

Joe Biden was in prime form last night as he deftly answered criticisms about how some feel the economy could be better, while trump seemed tired, confused and lost. Really failed to connect with crucial swing state voters and couldn't name any coherent policy positions...
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (P9xGM)

In essence, this is exactly what will happen. We all know this.. hell, EVERYBODY knows this.

Posted by: tubal at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (QP8A0)

114 https://tinyurl.com/ru3nuzf2
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM

Garrett, come get your dog.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (iRX3h)

115 Make shurre He doesn't wear a ear piece or have a teleprompter

Posted by: Skip at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (cD/o+)

116 Joetato has NEVER been likable

not 40 years ago and not now

I guess now he's more pathetic

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (s3qiR)

117 I would agree to these conditions. My conditions would be no wire, teleprompter, cue cards. Biden has to be entirely on his own.

Posted by: DaveD at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (WrzlM)

118 That will scare off the corpse Joe Biden.
Posted by: Sandy Vigilante at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (wvn6O)
++++
No it won't. They will just reject the terms and loudly talk about how Trump refused a fair and honest debate because he is afraid of democracy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (d04cU)

119 "no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking"

Wasn't Biden the Great Interrupter against Paul Ryan? The rule is only for Trump, it seems. Biden can interrupt at will. Trump's mic will be cut, Biden's will be turned up to talk over Trump?
Posted by: illiniwek at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (Cus5s)
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Yes, and he did the same thing with Trump. It was Biden -- not Trump -- who started interrupting first. Before that, Trump was playing by the rules. Of course Trump then started interrupting himself. He had to, or else he'd look weak and impotent like Ryan. The meme that Trump started interrupting Biden first is a bald-faced, demonstrable lie.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (iFTx/)

120 I have this here shiny nickel that says Biden will never appear on stage with Trump, no matter the venue or the terms. It was a bluff and Trump called it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (2UnvF)

121 In what way would Trump gain by refusing Biden's debate offer? What do you think the MSM would do/say if Trump did refuse?
Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:17 PM (3ImbR)


I agree, Trump probably had to accept once the offer was made.

But this is why you don't say "I'll do X under any circumstances."

Posted by: Dr. T at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (0EnJo)

122 President Trump has one condition.

That Gas Pump Guy moderates the debate.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (IebSC)

123 115 Make shurre He doesn't wear a ear piece or have a teleprompter


yeah ok but how can you be sure it's not Jim? you'd have to check against a double being used too

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (s3qiR)

124 "Trump was so poopy headed that white working class men turned against him en-masse and delivered Texas for Biden."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

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Heh.

"Turnout was over 300% alone in Colony Ridge!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (lZVZi)

125
(1) Two moderators- one chosen by Brain Dead Biden, one chosen by Trump.

(2) Drug testing prior and immediately after the debate.

(3) Public venue with a big audience.


That will scare off the corpse Joe Biden.
Posted by: Sandy Vigilante

4 they both have to walk both up and down stairs of at least 8 steps.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (pZEOD)

126 He tried that in 2020 and it backfired.
Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:11 PM (G0vdT)

Fair enough, to whatever extent it backfired. They still needed to cheat to "win". However, the landscape is very different. Biden only had to be Not Trump and breathing.

But now we have wars and inflation and the simple question of, do you want four more years of this?

Truthfully, I think Biden is already cooked in a fair election. Blacks vote 90% Democrat, so maybe 25% of the Dem votes. If Biden loses 25% of black men, that's about 3% of the overall vote, and a larger % of the urban areas Biden really needs.

If the cheat can be limited, just curbed, Biden is toast. Want to screw up the cheat? Refuse to report results from R districts until the Dems have reported. They always go last and know the margin they need to cover. Take away that info and things get tricky.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (z+89e)

127 That Gas Pump Guy moderates the debate.


that video haunts me

I will be gassing up in NJ from now on!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (s3qiR)

128 117 I would agree to these conditions. My conditions would be no wire, teleprompter, cue cards. Biden has to be entirely on his own.

Posted by: DaveD at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (WrzlM)

No podiums. We sit on barstools until it's our turn to speak. Each stands and addresses the audience. Free flowing, like that Hillary debate.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (KbCG3)

129 LOL lost two debates to you.

Posted by: steevy at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (FQmDC)

130 43 It's not like Trump doesn't already know questions that stump or frustrate Biden. "When did Beau die?"

"How many time did you drop the soap when you showered with your young daughter?"

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (aFNOf)

131 I think under any set of circumstances *biden does poorly in a debate with, well... anyone. But this being him and Trump, I think teh Donald oughta' rethink the conditions.

He won't. He's itching to get in front of the cameras. His ego is intact. His judgement... hasn't changed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (Q4IgG)

132 Weird, dark theory. They set up the debate and some member of the Dems shock troops bombs the building. Biden taken out as well as Trump. Dems get rid of two problems at once. Given their willingness to do anything for power , this one isn't that far fetched

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (v60bd)

133 I have this here shiny nickel that says Biden will never appear on stage with Trump, no matter the venue or the terms. It was a bluff and Trump called it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I'm not taking that bet, because you nailed it.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (iRX3h)

134 Trump is genetically incapable of doing this.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (/nCD+)
~~~~~

Absolutely not true.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (3ImbR)

135 The problem is, the American people just haven't had a chance to know the real Joe Biden. He needs to get out there and re-introduce himself.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (P9xGM)

136 >This is a defensive move by the Dems.
~~~~~

Nah.

They control all of the debates.

Every. 4. Years.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (BY8dN)

137 NATO's biggest standing army thinks that little old Israel is going to attack Turkey?
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But not only Turkey. There must be mashed potatoes too.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (L/fGl)
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And Iranberry sauce.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (2KeGl)

138 That Biden video. Wow. How many cuts did they need to make in a 15 second video to make Joey Showers look even marginally coherent? Wtf does the raw footage look like?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

139 Make shurre He doesn't wear a ear piece or have a teleprompter

Posted by: Skip at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (cD/o+)

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I'm still waiting for some white hat to hack into the TOTUS and EPOTUS (Ear Piece Of The United States).

Comedy gold, Jerry!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (lZVZi)

140 It's an op.

Now that Trump has accepted (something), the Usual Suspects will be ready to call any changes to Biden's offer that Trump wants to be proof of Trump's fear and cowardice to debate Tough Talkin' Joe. Trump needs to ignore that shit. Can he?

Biden will call it off - no debates at all, then call Trump a liar and coward for six months - if Trump does not agree to most if not all of Joe's terms. Can Joe get away with that?

Posted by: Gref at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (5fDan)

141 Weird, dark theory. They set up the debate and some member of the Dems shock troops bombs the building. Biden taken out as well as Trump. Dems get rid of two problems at once. Given their willingness to do anything for power , this one isn't that far fetched
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (v60bd)
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And the Junta gets to start another war

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)

142 With no audience, they can put the entire thing on a 10 minute and edit the shit out of it. Stupid.

Posted by: Oldstoke at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (qYLs6)

143 Why don't you look at how much stuff WE care for people to be informed about was squeezed into Trump's post which is no doubt viral??

Even though we know voters are "dumb" we simultaneously assume all the Dancing With the Stars viewers know all the stuff we do. They don't.

Like EV mandates and Open Borders. They have barely a clue. Trump by virtue of his attention getting, is and has been our *only* chance to get OUR stupidcmessages out to the greater world because the idiot news reports these dummies watch will no doubt quote his "acceptance".

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (H3Mdk)

144 good point but this is being run on MXM News, which is run by Don Jr. It sounds like they're accepting. But maybe you're right.
Posted by: ace at May 15, 2024 12:12 PM (KRtlO)

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Well maybe, I'd give it a couple of days. I assume the Trump campaign will send their own letter to the debate commission.

Frankly what people think of each candidate is pretty much baked in the cake. So far FJB is confirming to everyone that he is out of touch with Americans. Letting him babble on about how great the economy is in a debate will only confirm what people already believe. I don't think these debates will do anything to move the needle but most likely solidify the current state of the election which is a Trump win even if he has Dem operatives asking the questions.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (2fIO4)

145 We never hear anything about SCOAMF's early years. No college transcripts, no friends, no nothing. Likewise, nothing about Retardo's early years, like life in Scranton before the family got run out. Betcha that bumbling idiot had more wedgies and swirlies in elementary school than anybody else, especially after dear old Dad fucking over half the town in his used car lots.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (V5eKu)

146 Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald May 13
CNN's Brian Stelter interviewed Biden's WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki in 2021, and the first question he asked was: what can we do better to serve you?

Even she was visibly embarrassed because DC needs the theater of a feisty, adversarial press corps

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM (ZdexC)

147 We're also demanding that he articulate the word "pussy" at least 5 times.

Posted by: Biden-Harris 2024! Growing BS from the top down, and the outside in at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM (a3Q+t)

148 Joe will be pulled out of the debates but it will be Trump's fault and only proves that Trump is weak and fears Joe.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM (P9xGM)

149 They control the Media… debate, or no debate, Trump is the Villain, Biden is the Hero… all is theater…

Posted by: tubal at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (QP8A0)

150 147 We're also demanding that he articulate the word "pussy" at least 5 times.
Posted by: Biden-Harris 2024! Growing BS from the top down, and the outside in at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM (a3Q+t)

Don't forget Stormy

Posted by: It's me donna at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (Akjoo)

151 Again, it's not like ANY moderator from a "major news organization" would be even remotely neutral... it's unfair, corrupt, etc., but it is reality. Once the offer was made, it had to be taken to avoid making Trump out as being afraid to debate, and it would give the Joetato an easy out if he tried to change the terms of the deal. So it was either this or nothing, and I think Trump feels that letting Joe ramble incoherently or have a full dementia meltdown at him for something he says isn't going to hurt him.

Posted by: American Hawkman at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (skAOD)

152 Betcha that bumbling idiot had more wedgies and swirlies in elementary school than anybody else, especially after dear old Dad fucking over half the town in his used car lots.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:24 PM (V5eKu)

Refund? Refund!? Refund!!!?

Posted by: Joeseph Biden, Father Of A Pervert at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (IebSC)

153 Even she was visibly embarrassed
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM


Is that even possible? How could you tell?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (a3Q+t)

154 148 Joe will be pulled out of the debates but it will be Trump's fault and only proves that Trump is weak and fears Joe.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


This.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:26 PM (aFNOf)

155 https://tinyurl.com/ru3nuzf2
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:15 PM

Garrett, come get your dog.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM


Gaynine.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (FAGAJ)

156 Is spongebrain even going to be Trump's opponent by that time? He might have been replaced already.

Posted by: Ciampino - Get a grip at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (qfLjt)

157 Trump is genetically incapable of doing this.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (/nCD+)
~~~~~

Absolutely not true.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:23 PM (3ImbR)

I ask this in complete sincerity: Please identify one time when Trump, in a combative environment, DIDN'T puff up, put on a swagger, and try to out-hit his opponent.

The times I recall him acting in a way people typically refer to as 'presidential' were during set-pieces like his inaugural and States of the Union speeches. I can't recall him acting like that in a contested or denied environment, and would love an example or two.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (/nCD+)

158 Moderators: Tucker, Rogan, Jimmy Dore.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (iRX3h)

159 132 Weird, dark theory. They set up the debate and some member of the Dems shock troops bombs the building. Biden taken out as well as Trump. Dems get rid of two problems at once.

nah. no audience means they don't even have to be in the same room. biden can be in his basement.

Posted by: anachronda at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (v3pYe)

160 127 That Gas Pump Guy moderates the debate.


that video haunts me

I will be gassing up in NJ from now on!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:22 PM (s3qiR)
________

That was in some Latin country, no? I've always said that no matter how sick or perverted or deranged something is, some lunatic out there has done it. But I woulda thought that "sticking a gas station pump nozzle UP YOUR ASS while you jerk off IN PUBLIC right next to a busy road" might be one of those "nah, not even the sickest freak would do that" . . . but I’d be wrong.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

161 CNN's Brian Stelter interviewed Biden's WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki in 2021, and the first question he asked was: what can we do better to serve you?

She should have said in response, "Well, presentation is the key, so I prefer being served Juelian fries versus the thick cut...You're a just bit under processed and cooked right now..."

Posted by: Boswell at May 15, 2024 12:28 PM (K+UlC)

162 I made the point yesterday that Biden has 40 years of experience doing debates. The format is so shallow that he'll be able to draw the same answers he's used all his life. Don't forget the dumb smirk.

Posted by: WisRich

Biden is an 81 year old dementia ridden idiot who has destroyed the country with his 40 year old ideas. If you can't remember which door leads back into the house you've lived in for three years, there is no way that he will rise to the occasion and come off looking anything but the fool that he is.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:28 PM (t/2Uw)

163 Who ever changed their mind after watching a prez debate? Especially with the poor-quality 'debates' we've had for the past several decades. They're just gotcha rituals to generate ten-second vid clips.

Posted by: gp Decays To Plage at May 15, 2024 12:28 PM (MvF+J)

164 The trap: Trump will obviously pick Telemundo and it will be hours of Trump overriding and steamrolling hispanic modetators and insulting them afterward for being biased.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (UYq9f)

What percent of this country exactly do you think gives a shit about "hispanic moderators"?

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (H3Mdk)

165 We all understand that Trump literally could not place any demands on anything, lest he be painted with the coward's brush, right?

It comes down to this if you're Trump: do you want Biden out of the basement or not?

The bet is that Biden will show the world what the media has been covering up. Trump will get to talk about the Hur report. Direct allegations about Joe and Hunter. Acknowledgements that the laptop was real. Etc., etc.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (KbCG3)

166 First trailer for Dune: Prophecy

https://tinyurl.com/4t9yext7

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (CIS44)

167 President Trump has one condition.

That Gas Pump Guy moderates the debate.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM (IebSC)
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Pence?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (2KeGl)

168 Instead it makes him look small and mean.
He is getting smaller every day. The "mean" is just pathetic.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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I agree, but I'm betting they still love him over at DU. Meanness is a virtue to the left if directed at the correct targets.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (xQ/4D)

169 Over/under on one the dem guests in the audience being Stormy Daniels?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (aFNOf)

170 The rule is only for Trump, it seems. Biden can interrupt at will. Trump's mic will be cut, Biden's will be turned up to talk over Trump?

Probably too late now if they're accepted the terms as described but Trump's team could have insisted that the mics be on a two-way switch so only one of them could be active at any given time. Then if FJB interrupts Trump, it would be obvious that the moderators were allowing it.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 15, 2024 12:29 PM (/y8xj)

171 The debate will be a train wreck for both sides imo.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (MNhXM)

172 It's not as dumb as at first blush.

1. Trump knows Biden can't debate. He can't even give a teleprompter speech without something *pause* going wrong. So if Biden is dumb enough to debate, he makes an absolute fool of himself in front of the country.

2. And I think this more likely, Biden pulls out citing Trump is a dictator or something dumb like that and everyone sees Biden running from the debate.

Either way, Trump wins. A moderator can only do so much protecting...

Posted by: Lex at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (fMN7A)

173 Bongino just posited that this is the Left attempting to get rid of Biden.

They need him out and he refuses to go away. So they set him up to get smoked by Trump in a debate, and can then tell the party elders that Biden just has to go.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (/nCD+)

174 Bongino thinks these debates are a maneuver by the Left to get rid of Joe. IOW when he does poorly, they will be able to tell him it's time to step aside.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (3ImbR)

175 The times I recall him acting in a way people typically refer to as 'presidential' were during set-pieces like his inaugural and States of the Union speeches. I can't recall him acting like that in a contested or denied environment, and would love an example or two.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

How about every single time he stopped and took questions from reporters when walking to Marine One?

Are you kidding?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (iRX3h)

176 Bongino thinks these debates are a maneuver by the Left to get rid of Joe. IOW when he does poorly, they will be able to tell him it's time to step aside.
Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (3ImbR)
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Bongino is wrong. It will be too late. It's already too late, in all likelihood. They're stuck with him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (d04cU)

177 Make shurre He doesn't wear a ear piece or have a teleprompter

Posted by: Skip
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He's beyond the help of either. He already can't read 100 pt typeface right in front of him, and he'd have to accurately hear and repeat anything from an ear piece. He couldn't do it.

Nothing short of a ventriloquist can help him.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (Dm8we)

178 173 Bongino just posited that this is the Left attempting to get rid of Biden.

They need him out and he refuses to go away. So they set him up to get smoked by Trump in a debate, and can then tell the party elders that Biden just has to go.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (/nCD+)

Ugh, no. Wouldn't the simpler path to just reject a debate and plant the seeds that Joe's not up to it?

Biden will be the nominee. That's it and that's all.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (KbCG3)

179 Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Owe me a Coke!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (3ImbR)

180 112 NATO's biggest standing army thinks that little old Israel is going to attack Turkey?

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But not only Turkey. There must be mashed potatoes too.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 15, 2024 12:20 PM (L/fGl)

What am I, An orphan?

Posted by: Gravy at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (z+89e)

181 IOW when he does poorly, they will be able to tell him it's time to step aside.
Posted by: IrishEi

Youll pry the White House from my cold dead fingers.
-DOCTOR Jill Biden

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (CIS44)

182 I have this here shiny nickel that says Biden will never appear on stage with Trump, no matter the venue or the terms. It was a bluff and Trump called it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 15, 2024 12:21 PM


I hope it's that rash that's making you so irritated, and not an unbridled cynicism that is very atypical for someone of your tender years.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (a3Q+t)

183 Even the dogs are gay . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
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Funny you should say that.

Posted by: Stefan Vanderhoof and Scott Donlan at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (Be/+i)

184
Moderator: "In the next round of questions only a yes or no answer is permissible. We'll start with President Biden. Sir, will your next four years be even more awesome then the last four?"
Biden: "Yes."
Moderator: "Mr. Trump. Have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no?"

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (RKVpM)

185 This busty, pool-bound redhead in a one-piece hereby states, and means all that she says, that she never has been and never will be interested in a presidential candidate's debate, that if asked to watch it by either party, she shall peremptorily decline; and even if she finds it on all available television sets, she shall decline to watch:
http://tiny.cc/gyp3yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (d04cU)

186 I can't recall him acting like that in a contested or denied environment, and would love an example or two.
Posted by: Washington

He was extraordinarily measured in his debates with Hillary and don't forget the insane pressure they put him under by releasing the Pussy Tape right beforehand with both sides declaring his candidacy over.

I can understand people not liking Trump or whatever but at this point they should not be oblivious to how effective he is.

Remember when some college switched Trump and Hillary to be a man and a woman and the liberal audiences were shocked to find how abusive and nasty the man looked and how intelligent and composed the woman looked?

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (H3Mdk)

187 Peru Officially Classifies Trans People as Mentally Ill

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How dare you!

Posted by: Swedish Autistic Doom Goblin at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (L/fGl)

188 This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

https://tinyurl.com/53yh75xj

Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (LkLld)

189 What am I, An orphan?
Posted by: Gravy at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM


* waves *

Posted by: Wavy at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (a3Q+t)

190 @JoeBiden

I've also received and accepted an invitation to a debate hosted by ABC on Tuesday, September 10th.

Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM (NpAcC)
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Now the debates are a dick-measuring contest?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (7fElN)

191 After my Dad died, we were going through some papers. An old business came up with my Uncle as VP and Mom as treasurer incorporated in Delaware. Asked Mom, "why this". Her reply was they let you get away with murder on the books. Two man bakery with two or three bakers.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (V5eKu)

192 Owe me a Coke!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (3ImbR)

I laughed out loud when I read your post.

And I'll buy you one if we ever find ourselves with about 60 miles of each other.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (/nCD+)

193 176 Bongino is wrong. It will be too late. It's already too late, in all likelihood. They're stuck with him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15

How long can his heart take the amphetamines? Dr. Muldoon. Paging Dr. Muldoon! Aren’t we lining him up for a cardiac event with this?

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (pZEOD)

194 Wait.

He's using a teleprompter to make this statement.

Yikes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (f6xX0)

195 That poor Westminster dog has monkeypox in his future.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (iRX3h)

196 I think it’s good. Get them both on the same stage together. That comparison is good for Trump for sure

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (UHvkm)

197 Oh and by the way, while a Telemundo moderator would be a stupid leftwing clown, IIRC the Telemundo audience overwhelmingly thought Trump won the debate where he was accused of talking over Biden. The Hispanic audience correctly saw the debate as a battle of wills and thought Trump was the victor. So having the debate broadcast on Telemundo is likely a positive thing for Trump.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

198 They're stuck with him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:31 PM (d04cU)
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These are democrats we're talking about! They'll just pull a Torricelli Switcheroo.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:34 PM (3ImbR)

199 Don't bluff my call!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 15, 2024 12:34 PM (63Dwl)

200 The trap: Trump will obviously pick Telemundo and it will be hours of Trump overriding and steamrolling hispanic modetators and insulting them afterward for being biased.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (UYq9f)

I would pick CNN...that alone makes them acknowledge Trump as THE opposition candidate seriously in the running for the WH, versus their current 24/7 screaming that he's a 92 times indicted potential felon who should not even be running! Talk about ending the Dems lawfare initiative right there! You can't convict and imprison the very candidate the media just gave a 3 hour Presidential debate to and then expect a majority of Americans to somehow agree its legit.

Posted by: Boswell at May 15, 2024 12:34 PM (K+UlC)

201 188 This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

https://tinyurl.com/53yh75xj
Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (LkLld)

That's bad

Posted by: It's me donna at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (Akjoo)

202 Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.

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Pssst. That's a big part of the problem.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (f6xX0)

203 Now the debates are a dick-measuring contest?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (7fElN)

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It's either that or a hair competition.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (dqcIy)

204 202 Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.

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Pssst. That's a big part of the problem.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (f6xX0)

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The CO2 emissions!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

205 "Well, make my day pal?" What an arrogant a$$hole.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (mupln)

206 Wait.

He's using a teleprompter to make this statement.

Yikes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Technically, these five separate statements.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (iRX3h)

207 202 Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.


oh you bought that plane, Joe, you stupid chicken f*cker?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (s3qiR)

208 Remember when some college switched Trump and Hillary to be a man and a woman and the liberal audiences were shocked to find how abusive and nasty the man looked and how intelligent and composed the woman looked?

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (H3Mdk)

I did not remember that at all - you're exactly right.

***makes note***

Today, someone actually changed their mind after reading something on the internet.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (/nCD+)

209 Wow! Biden people won't even allow a dozen spectators in hula hoops like his 2020 "rallies"?

Posted by: Man of the People at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (V5BDR)

210 This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

https://tinyurl.com/53yh75xj

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He stutters, racist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (f6xX0)

211 185 This busty, pool-bound redhead in a one-piece hereby states, and means all that she says, that she never has been and never will be interested in a presidential candidate's debate, that if asked to watch it by either party, she shall peremptorily decline; and even if she finds it on all available television sets, she shall decline to watch:
http://tiny.cc/gyp3yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


The clasp holding up her top must be made of military grade titanium.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (aFNOf)

212 And people still think they're going to get rid of Biden and Kamala.

What really itches my grits is the thought of them stealing it out in the open again, then another couple years of this turd followed by the Ascension of Kamala.

Fuck.

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (H3Mdk)

213 Lot of new nics are very concerned and blackpilled every time these "stupid drumpf" threads are made

Posted by: Cmonman at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (e6NQ9)

214 That 15 second response is clearly edited. Pathetic.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (pohLc)

215 The trap: Trump will obviously pick Telemundo and it will be hours of Trump overriding and steamrolling hispanic modetators and insulting them afterward for being biased.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 15, 2024 12:18 PM (UYq9f)

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Trump can bring along a Mexican weather girl to translate.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (dqcIy)

216 Big Joe is speaking at a police officer's memorial event in DC.

Beau died.
My wife and daughter were killed.

I signed this, I issued that, I did this other thing, I did etc., etc., to help YOU!

He spoke for 11 minutes. The "keep Joe's public mumbling short!" strategy is in effect.

Posted by: Gref at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (5fDan)

217 Our debate will focus on abortion, racism and why Trump is a threat to Our Democracy.

We're thrilled Trump isn't scared to face our candidate.

Posted by: CNN at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (BY8dN)

218 Which titan of journalism is going to harm Trump?



"...they should not be oblivious to how effective he is."

That is part of the kink.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (Z8Yh2)

219 Well the King's portrait was better than Vigo the Carpathian.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (cf/0E)

220 Bongino may have a point . The first debate is in June, prior to the convention. If Joe shits the bed, or his pants, the Dems could have a way for a convention fight and push him out.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (v60bd)

221 Remember when some college switched Trump and Hillary to be a man and a woman and the liberal audiences were shocked to find how abusive and nasty the man looked and how intelligent and composed the woman looked?

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Yep, and IIRC had the male and female actors do their best to reproduce the mannerisms and intonations as well as the exact words.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (f6xX0)

222 On the plus side, we are finally getting rid of the terrible debate commission’s stale 3 debate set up.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (7PziG)

223 In what ways exactly has Trump demonstrated he's not a member of the Uniparty? He's disappointed normals so many times that this is a legitimate question. As it stands he's been the ruling class' solution to open rebellion (there remains very many not yet fallen who still have it too good) in that "just one more time and we will finally reestablish rule of law working and stability returned."

Yeah sure. Ever since Trump arrived on the scene the one thing truly accomplished was making the TEA Party movement a distant memory. Who did THAT help most?

European aristocrats used to war against each other and it was the peons whose blood was shed. How is the antiTrumpian war any different?

Trump looks like the answer. And W looked like the answer to Gore and Kerry.

Hmm. Scripture says not to put our trust in idols. Just maybe forgetting that has been and remains the problem.

Posted by: Pascal at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (OQ6sI)

224 201 188 This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

https://tinyurl.com/53yh75xj
Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (LkLld)

That's bad
Posted by: It's me donna at May

Holy filler, Batman! I wonder if he and Nancy get a bulk discount.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (pZEOD)

225 Bad decision if Trump carries through. Biden needs to be seen with him, not vice versa. They will juice Biden up so he will be able to get through it. The media will provide a big assist.

The country is burning, the economy is terrible, the average person is suffering, our communities are being invaded and destroyed and dudes are ruining women's sports. Do you really need to distract from what's actually going on? No, Tonto, no you don't.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (7gP3b)

226 The debate is on Telemundo. PDT shows up with a cheer leading squad of Mexican weather girls, and announces his intention to speak only in Spanish, which he learned at the military academy his Dad sent him to to toughen him up. Ola.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (V5eKu)

227 So Trump has to debate whichever left-wing scold moderator instead of demented-hopped-up Joe.
As long as Trump sets out to debate the moderator he'll do fine.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (IU4H7)

228 And I'll buy you one if we ever find ourselves with about 60 miles of each other.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:33 PM (/nCD+)
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Okay. Make it a beer and we're on!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (3ImbR)

229 The cuts aren't to hide Joe's errors, they're trying to emulate the prevailing style of TikTok videos (which has spread to Instagram reels and YouTube Shorts). Except the cadence is wrong. It ends up like they knew that TikTokkers do those things but didn't study enough. Big "hello fellow kids" energy.

Same, oddly, with the Apple ad everyone piles on. Some of the most popular videos on YouTube are where people crush things in a hydraulic press (lithium-ion batteries get really spicy when you do that), or put them through an industrial shredder, or blow them up with C4. The error of the ad was doing it in a slow, plodding way instead of just pull a lever and blam, like a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

230 I can see a short, timed "debate" with fairly soft questions for *biden that can be answered with short, "yes" or "no" answers with a little context, if needed. Anything more than that would be... difficult for spongebrain. Especially if Trump was his typical, combative self with his own answers.

And, as others have pointed out; what would be shown to the public would be an edited version of what the *biden camp wanted to portray.

If there's going to be any sort of debate between these two it should be live and unscripted. But it won't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 15, 2024 12:39 PM (Q4IgG)

231 This busty, pool-bound redhead in a one-piece hereby states, and means all that she says, that she never has been and never will be interested in a presidential candidate's debate, that if asked to watch it by either party, she shall peremptorily decline; and even if she finds it on all available television sets, she shall decline to watch:
http://tiny.cc/gyp3yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (d04cU)


I was expecting something different. Redder hair, for example.

I'd say 'would not,' but at this point, I'll take just about anyone.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 15, 2024 12:39 PM (Q0kLU)

232 Mr Biden, What makes your economy so great? What is your secret?


Mr Trump, Given the recent events in Kyrgyzstan, who do you support in their contentious foreign minister race, and what advice would you give to navigate the precarious situation they are in?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:39 PM (P9xGM)

233 Well, make my day pal?" What an arrogant a$$hole.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (mupln)

They both act like kids on a playground. It’s embarrassing. As you age your insults should contain a modicum of wit . Instead it’s 3rd grade insults all around.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:39 PM (MNhXM)

234 In what ways exactly has Trump demonstrated he's not a member of the Uniparty? He's disappointed normals so many times that this is a legitimate question. As it stands he's been the ruling class' solution to open rebellion (there remains very many not yet fallen who still have it too good) in that "just one more time and we will finally reestablish rule of law working and stability returned."

Posted by: Pascal at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (OQ6sI)

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You convinced me and now I'm voting Biden. I think my kids can afford $50/gallon milk and war with Russia and China.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:39 PM (f6xX0)

235
Whatever they have been juicing Biden up with to get him semi-coherent will eventually stop working. Even race horses can't keep taking that crap without them dropping.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (+oR7L)

236 The cuts aren't to hide Joe's errors, they're trying to emulate the prevailing style of TikTok videos (which has spread to Instagram reels and YouTube Shorts). Except the cadence is wrong. It ends up like they knew that TikTokkers do those things but didn't study enough. Big "hello fellow kids" energy. ...
Posted by: Ian S. at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (2ocoG)
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I call this "TikTokification" and it's increasingly common in advertising, to the point of becoming dominant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (d04cU)

237 Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.

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Pssst. That's a big part of the problem.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:35 PM (f6xX0)

Trump could hit back with "I'm not surprised he thinks it's his plane. He probably thinks he lives in his house, too."

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (H3Mdk)

238 Anyone that honestly believes that Donald Trump has not learned anything since 2015 isn't ever going to accept any single thing the man has/will do as positive.

If you think DJT does not recognize the enemies to him and our country then why bother pretending a couple of debates have meaning?

Posted by: old chick at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (F3Dlr)

239 The Marty Seinfeld strategy.

Keep the old guy in attendance late beyond dinner hour. He will check out.


Posted by: Redenzo at May 15, 2024 12:19 PM

Schedule late meetings. These old guys they're up at 4am, by 2:30pm they're wiped.

https://bit.ly/4al6jp5

Posted by: George Costanza at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (P5BPp)

240 Well the King's portrait was better than Vigo the Carpathian.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 15, 2024 12:37 PM (cf/0E)
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Chuck is "The Sorrow of Belgravia."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 15, 2024 12:41 PM (Be/+i)

241 Well, make my day pal?" What an arrogant a$$hole.
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Joe is made to say these things because Trump is popular and this is how the left thinks Trump behaves, and clearly this behavior is why he's popular.

It's Science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:41 PM (f6xX0)

242 Okay. Make it a beer and we're on!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (3ImbR)

Your conditions are acceptable. You can shoot me an email if you're open to it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 12:41 PM (/nCD+)

243 229 The cuts aren't to hide Joe's errors, they're trying to emulate the prevailing style of TikTok videos (which has spread to Instagram reels and YouTube Shorts).

perhaps the prevailing style of tiktok videos is to emulate their hero, president lol 80 million.

Posted by: anachronda at May 15, 2024 12:41 PM (v3pYe)

244 I see the country of Georgia passed a law requiring foreign funded NGOs to identify themselves as such...and the EU and Biden Junta are freaking out about it.

Which is hilarious because the Biden Junta has itself arrested a number of people for violating FARA or similar foreign influence in the US...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)

245 Biden's pupils seem a tad bit dilated it that clip.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (a3Q+t)

246 Schedule late meetings. These old guys they're up at 4am, by 2:30pm they're wiped.

https://bit.ly/4al6jp5
Posted by: George Costanza at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (P5BPp)
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Yep. He ain't wrong...I *hate* late meetings in the day just for that reason...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (7fElN)

247 Any debate is theater.
Any debate managed by the left is scripted theater.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (W/lyH)

248 Trump should televise a debate with an empty chair or a chair with a crash dummy sitting in it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (aFNOf)

249 227 So Trump has to debate whichever left-wing scold moderator instead of demented-hopped-up Joe.
As long as Trump sets out to debate the moderator he'll do fine.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (IU4H7)
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He should make that clear in his opening statements: This is not a debate between me and Joe, its me and these Dem hack moderators who's job, as they see it, is to protect Joe Biden at all cost.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (G0vdT)

250 perhaps the prevailing style of tiktok videos is to emulate their hero, president lol 80 million.

That style was a thing well before 2020.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (2ocoG)

251 Trump looks like the answer. And W looked like the answer to Gore and Kerry.

Posted by: Pascal at May 15, 2024 12:38 PM (OQ6sI)

That's not the way I see it all. Trump isn't Moses, he's the plagues. I want him to burn down the Republican Party from the inside out and drive out the entrenched ruling class. Trump's biggest accomplishment so far has been removing Bushes and Cheneys from the national political stage. It may not work, but he carved a wide swath in the first term.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (z+89e)

252 Trump can bring along a Mexican weather girl to translate.
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Cuchi! Cuchi!

Posted by: Charo at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (ZdexC)

253 That 15 second response is clearly edited. Pathetic.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 15, 2024 12:36 PM (pohLc)

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"Take 27 and ... ACTION!

NO! CUT, CUT, CUT, CUT! ANOTHER Diaper Change on set, STAT!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (Z3sHv)

254 >Ella Purnell has been cast in a new squirrel horror movie ‘THE SCURRY’

Hollywood ideas: 1/10
Hollywood title names: 10/10

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (cf/0E)

255 Either way, it's gonna be hilarious.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (v0R5T)

256 Why does it feel like the same commenters who complained about Trump not debating are now complaining about him debating?

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (H3Mdk)

257 How do we know trump isnt Uniparty?

Romney was uniparty, they hit him with fluffy boxing gloves.
McCain was uniparty, they hit him with feather pillows.

The left is trying to throw Trump in prison on made up charges so he can't run.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (P9xGM)

258 Even she was visibly embarrassed
Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 15, 2024 12:25 PM

Is that even possible? How could you tell?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

She dropped her nail file.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (xeuBx)

259 Was just thinking about a debate question regarding the trials. Contempt of court to answer a question?

Posted by: Disgusted at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (Z8Yh2)

260 It's a debate right? Then Trump and Biden need to ask each other questions, not the pisspot 'moderators', sorry, liars.

Posted by: Ciampino - Titbit #02 at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (qfLjt)

261 This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

https://tinyurl.com/53yh75xj
Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 12:32 PM (LkLld)

That's bad
Posted by: It's me donna at May

Holy filler, Batman! I wonder if he and Nancy get a bulk discount.
Posted by: Piper
________

He was even worse yesterday:

https://tinyurl.com/ysvawb9r

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (Dm8we)

262 Rep. Goldman, "I have deposed Michael Cohen, I have met with him a number of times to prepare him."

How about that. A Democrat political hack rehearsed Michael Cohen's "testimony" with him. Is it thinkable the questions for Cohen were known in advance?

https://tinyurl.com/ybnajkcv

Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (Amk6c)

263 >Ella Purnell has been cast in a new squirrel horror movie ‘THE SCURRY’

Hollywood ideas: 1/10
Hollywood title names: 10/10
Posted by: BourbonChicken

You asked for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (iRX3h)

264 256 Why does it feel like the same commenters who complained about Trump not debating are now complaining about him debating?
Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12


Shhhhhhh. Just let them talk. It’s a great strategy all the way around.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (pZEOD)

265 197 Oh and by the way, while a Telemundo moderator would be a stupid leftwing clown, IIRC the Telemundo audience overwhelmingly thought Trump won the debate where he was accused of talking over Biden. The Hispanic audience correctly saw the debate as a battle of wills and thought Trump was the victor. So having the debate broadcast on Telemundo is likely a positive thing for Trump.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:34 PM (iFTx/)


Hispanics strongly prefer stronk and macho hombres

Posted by: Gref at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (5fDan)

266
This is Joe now. I don't think the venue or the moderators is going to make that much of a difference. He's incapable of finishing a sentence these days.

"Get ready, Baal, you're in for a problem."

Watch out Baal!

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (RKVpM)

267 *stops*
*squints*
*does the standing toddler doody squat*
*makes doody in pants*

"I'll get you Donald Trump, pal".

Posted by: Joe Biden's Talking Diaper at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (7gP3b)

268 Why does it feel like the same commenters who complained about Trump not debating are now complaining about him debating?
Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (H3Mdk)

Someone complained about him nor debating? Never saw that.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (MNhXM)

269 Axios: Why Air Force One really does belong to the president, and why it matters

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (H3Mdk)

270 Well, make my day pal.
......

Good grief what an asshole.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (v0R5T)

271
Either way, Trump wins. A moderator can only do so much protecting...
Posted by: Lex at May 15, 2024 12:30 PM (fMN7A)

Either way, Biden wins. The press will spin it to a decisive victory, the dems will cheat, and the billionaires will pay the slutty hos on the GOP side to support the "election outcome". There will be no consequences. A couple of dead protestors and people will know their place.
They've been perfecting the art of bank canceling and will start using social credit for keeping the lights on and buying food. In MA there are stores, partly run by the FDA,that provide cheaper food...but only to the qualified The government decides who eats and who doesn't. Very soviet, and when they push the supermarkets under, very much the future.

Posted by: GOP sux at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (Zzbjj)

272 If Biden collapses and dies during a debate Trump will be accused of murder.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (JLq/1)

273 254 >Ella Purnell has been cast in a new squirrel horror movie ‘THE SCURRY’

Hollywood ideas: 1/10
Hollywood title names: 10/10
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (cf/0E)

Just as believable as giant man eating rabbits. Remember Night of the Lepas? My late wife loved those hokey old horror films.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (pohLc)

274 Just remember the last one. 'Twas a bad night for Trump.

Biden will be drugged and rehearsed and know all the qs and as. All scripted.

And the mod will be absolutely hostile to Trump.

It'll be nasty.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (CCpcw)

275 >>>Please identify one time when Trump, in a combative environment, DIDN'T puff up, put on a swagger, and try to out-hit his opponent.
~~~~~

Key words: in a combative environment.

In this type of environment, I'll agree with you. In this type of situation Trump would absolutely (figuratively) punch back.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (3ImbR)

276 Someone complained about him nor debating? Never saw that.
Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (MNhXM)

Oh stop. There was tons of criticism of Trump choosing not to debate the Republican field. I may go crazy one day but today is not that day.

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (H3Mdk)

277 190 @JoeBiden

I've also received and accepted an invitation to a debate hosted by ABC on Tuesday, September 10th.

Trump says he’ll arrange his own transportation. I’ll bring my plane, too. I plan on keeping it for another four years.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:13 PM

--

He neither came up with that quip nor owns that plane.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 15, 2024 12:47 PM (wzAuc)

278 Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:44 PM (Amk6c)

A very privileged class, these democrats

Posted by: GOP sux at May 15, 2024 12:47 PM (Zzbjj)

279 43 It's not like Trump doesn't already know questions that stump or frustrate Biden. "When did Beau die?"

"How many time did you drop the soap when you showered with your young daughter?"
Posted by: Maj. Healey


"And did you prefer to squat down and pick it up yourself, or watch her bend over to get it?"

Posted by: mikeski at May 15, 2024 12:47 PM (DgGvY)

280 *stops*
*squints*
*does the standing toddler doody squat*
*makes doody in pants*

"I'll get you Donald Trump, pal".
Posted by: Joe Biden's Talking Diaper at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM


When it's time to doody, doody. Don't talk.

Posted by: Toddler Tuco at May 15, 2024 12:47 PM (a3Q+t)

281 248 Trump should televise a debate with an empty chair or a chair with a crash dummy sitting in it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:42 PM (aFNOf)

An empty wheelchair.

Posted by: davidt at May 15, 2024 12:47 PM (SYTee)

282 268 Why does it feel like the same commenters who complained about Trump not debating are now complaining about him debating?
Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (H3Mdk)

Someone complained about him nor debating? Never saw that.
Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (MNhXM)

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Oh, that definitely happened. Don't know if it's the same people, though.

"Trump not debating the Republican primary opponents is just the excuse Biden needs to not debate him. Stupid."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

283 Just as believable as giant man eating rabbits
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM


Those are real!

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at May 15, 2024 12:48 PM (a3Q+t)

284 "tons of criticism"

I would have went with some.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (Z8Yh2)

285 I think some people are missing a big point here, biden was throwing down the gauntlet to Trump and hoping he would not pick it up. If Trump refuses to debate joe biden because of cnn conducting the debate joe biden wins. If Trump refused to debate biden regardless of the venue, again, biden wins.


Trump had no choice but to agree to do any debate with biden anywhere or he would be seen as backing down from biden.


I still say there is an 85% probability that there will be no debate though. bidens doj can arrange to have Trump in court the entire week and not let him go to the debates, and again, that's a win for biden.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (QNSds)

286 Ella Purnell has been cast in a new squirrel horror movie ‘THE SCURRY’

Hollywood ideas: 1/10
Hollywood title names: 10/10
Posted by: BourbonChicken
________

Well, they're also doing Cocaine Werewolf. They're so fucking stupid and lazy they couldn't even change the drug.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (iFTx/)

287 Lisa Mei
@TheNotoriousLMC

You just know they're gonna pull a Donna Brazile and give him the questions in advance like she did for HRC.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (NpAcC)

288 Oh stop. There was tons of criticism of Trump choosing not to debate the Republican field. I may go crazy one day but today is not that day.
Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (H3Mdk)

The Republican field. You didn’t say that. We’re talking about debating Biden. Who complained about Trump not debating Biden.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (MNhXM)

289 Not long ago the Trump of Slovakia, PM FICO, was shot.

Now the dems want to set up a time and place where they know exactly where Trump will be...with no audience, and only friendly media.

Hmmmm....

Posted by: Diogenes at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)

290 262 Rep. Goldman, "I have deposed Michael Cohen, I have met with him a number of times to prepare him."

How about that. A Democrat political hack rehearsed Michael Cohen's "testimony" with him. Is it thinkable the questions for Cohen were known in advance?

https://tinyurl.com/ybnajkcv
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024

I will go read the article, but you always prep before court or arbitration. You know the questions your lawyer is going to ask, and you work through answers, with the caveat you answer honestly. Your lawyer helps you frame the response to ensure you are answer the question and nothing more. Why a member of congress what prepping him is interesting, though.

Oh, and on cross? Try to answer the question you want to answer, not necessarily the one asked.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:50 PM (pZEOD)

291 279 43 It's not like Trump doesn't already know questions that stump or frustrate Biden. "When did Beau die?"

"How many time did you drop the soap when you showered with your young daughter?"
Posted by: Maj. Healey

"And did you prefer to squat down and pick it up yourself, or watch her bend over to get it?"
Posted by: mikeski


"Does Jill seem to have an afterglow after she's been alone with Hunter?"

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 12:50 PM (aFNOf)

292 274 Just remember the last one. 'Twas a bad night for Trump.

Biden will be drugged and rehearsed and know all the qs and as. All scripted.

And the mod will be absolutely hostile to Trump.

It'll be nasty.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (CCpcw)


The 'moderators' will begin and end with abortion questions. No immigration questions will be asked. The words 'inflation' and 'Afghanistan' will not pass their lips.

Posted by: Gref at May 15, 2024 12:50 PM (5fDan)

293 I still say there is an 85% probability that there will be no debate though. bidens doj can arrange to have Trump in court the entire week and not let him go to the debates, and again, that's a win for biden.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (QNSds)
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It's gotta be higher profile: On stage during opening statements.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 12:50 PM (G0vdT)

294 268 Why does it feel like the same commenters who complained about Trump not debating are now complaining about him debating?
Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:43 PM (H3Mdk)

Someone complained about him nor debating? Never saw that.
Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:45 PM (MNhXM)
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I think ... means the complaints about Trump not debating in the GOP primary. That was definitely a thing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (iFTx/)

295 Distract Biden with a group of 8 year old girls in the front row...

Posted by: Stateless at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (jvJvP)

296 Well, they're also doing Cocaine Werewolf. They're so fucking stupid and lazy they couldn't even change the drug.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (iFTx/)

This keeps them eligible for the big award categories. Cocaine Pedophiles is only eligible for best documentary.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (z+89e)

297 I still say there is an 85% probability that there will be no debate though. bidens doj can arrange to have Trump in court the entire week and not let him go to the debates, and again, that's a win for biden.

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That's where I'm leaning, too.

"Oh, we tried to debate but that criminal Trump couldn't make it because he's a criminal!"

And use that as another excuse for election month, along with abortion and student loans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (f6xX0)

298 mr president, in 2021 you inherited an economy on the verge of collapse. can you tell us some of the things you and the democrats in congress did to turn it all around?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (B1FKF)

299 107, Sandy Vigilante said, "Brain dead Biden is trying to goad Trump into a debate. Biden needs the debate, Trump does not. Trump should not take the bait.

Trump should make his own demands.

(1) Two moderators- one chosen by Brain Dead Biden, one chosen by Trump.

(2) Drug testing prior and immediately after the debate.

(3) Public venue with a big audience."
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Absolutely, he needs to push for the audience and a choice of moderator. Trump needs the energy from the crowd, he thrives on it. Biden can play old, senile man being picked on by the bully that the moderators reinforce is a felon. People at home gauge the debate based on audience reaction in real-time. Left to their own devices, the media will spin reaction.

Also, solid move to fuck with him over the blood test.

Posted by: TheInverseAgonist at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (sTbTe)

300 What percent of this country exactly do you think gives a shit about "hispanic moderators"?
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The hispanic ones Trump is trying to woo. Also, the centrist white guilt types that are trying to justify voting against Biden because he sucks but can't stomach Trump. The ones genuinely offended by mean tweets and the word pussy.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (iFMeW)

301 292
The 'moderators' will begin and end with abortion questions. No immigration questions will be asked. The words 'inflation' and 'Afghanistan' will not pass their lips.
Posted by: Gref at May 15, 2024 12:50 PM (5fDan)

=======

"I keep saying that's a state issue."

"Then why do you want to allow Mississippi to execute abortion doctors?"

"I'm not a dictator. This is a constitutional republic."

Headline: Trump is dictator and wants to murder abortion doctors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

302 Trump should bring a couple of Playboy Bunnies to stand behind him.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (v0R5T)

303 Trump may intend to take over the debate by force of personality, ignore the moderator, and grill Joe to death until the network pulls the plug.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (pohLc)

304 And wouldn't you know it, Rep. Goldman, who rehearsed Cohen's testimony with him, is a client of Loren Merchan, the daughter of Judge Merchan who is running the Alvin Bragg show trial.

And the Democrat political incest, goes on and on.

https://tinyurl.com/3ccn8vb4

Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (Amk6c)

305 The Republican field. You didn’t say that. We’re talking about debating Biden. Who complained about Trump not debating Biden.
Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (MNhXM)

Well it was the only time Trump wasn't debating and it's pretty recent, so I didn't think I needed to specify.

Was there some story about Trump refusing to debate Biden that I missed?

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (H3Mdk)

306 These "debates" will never happen.

FYI

Posted by: Max Power at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (q177U)

307 Trump should bring a couple of Playboy Bunnies to stand behind him.
Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
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Mannix gals.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (tT6L1)

308 You just know they're gonna pull a Donna Brazile and give him the questions in advance like she did for HRC.
Posted by: redridinghood

That wouldn't work with Joe. He's got dementia, and it's advanced. He can't remember a minute ago. They'll have to wire him up, cochlear implant, something. My mom's got it, exactly the same, and yeah -- not even a minute ago.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (iRX3h)

309 Debates have been a fucking beauty show farce since Kennedy - Nixon.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I wish.

Gerald Ford

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (FxH7T)

310 The rule is only for Trump, it seems. Biden can interrupt at will.
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I am reminded of Nanci Pelosi at the Oxford debate.

Nanci Pelosi at the State of the Union address.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (XeU6L)

311 It may of already been said.
Biden accepts because he knows Trump will be in jail. The fix is in.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (W/lyH)

312 mr trump, do you finally want to apologize to all the police officers who were killed on jan 6?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (B1FKF)

313 Distract Biden with a group of 8 year old girls in the front row...
Posted by: Stateless at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (jvJvP)
.......

Look Fat, mmmm what's that smell?

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

314 Distract Biden with a group of 8 year old girls in the front row...

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This is such a great idea.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (f6xX0)

315 Trump should bring a couple of Playboy Bunnies to stand behind him.
Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
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Mannix gals.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (tT6L1)
__________

Put some Akbar "chicks" to stand behind Joey Shitbrains

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (iFTx/)

316 Whatever they have been juicing Biden up with to get him semi-coherent will eventually stop working. Even race horses can't keep taking that crap without them dropping.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 15, 2024 12:40 PM (+oR7L)

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* Elvis has left the building ... and entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (r3Yfj)

317 Wasn't it just a couple weeks ago that some faction inside the *biden White House claimed there'd be no debates? I think Trump made some snarky remarks about it a while back. Now they want to have one... with conditions.

What changed? Certainly not because of some off the cuff snark by Trump.

Everyone just assumed there'd be no debates. Obviously *biden's not up to it, thus the conditions.

So, I personally think it's a trap.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (Q4IgG)

318 Trump should bring a couple of Playboy Bunnies to stand behind him.
Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
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Mannix gals.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (tT6L1)

too old

Posted by: BignJames at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (AwYPR)

319 295 Distract Biden with a group of 8 year old girls in the front row...
Posted by: Stateless at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (jvJvP)


Just put Tara Reade in the audience.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (N39Ws)

320 Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (H3Mdk)

It’s two different scenarios where complaining about one doesn’t contradict complaining about the other.



Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (MNhXM)

321 Trump should bring a couple of Playboy Bunnies to stand behind him.
Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
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Mannix gals.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (tT6L1)
***

Throw another $100k at Stormy. She'd do it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (W/lyH)

322 "I've got a bad feeling about this. Chris Wallace did a lot to hurt Trump. The leftwing media is salivating to do that again, even harder this time."

I do to. The fix is in

Posted by: redridinghood at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

323 "so I didn't think I needed to specify."

Correct. Someone is pretending not to know things.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (Z8Yh2)

324 Will Joe start laughing insanely, as he did with Paul Ryan?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (XeU6L)

325 311 It may of already been said.
Biden accepts because he knows Trump will be in jail. The fix is in.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (W/lyH)

=======

I was assured that Trump would have been executed before January of 2021 was over, that Biden would have resigned before January of 2023, and that Kamala would be cake-walking her way to an electoral victory after the Republican Party shoved George P. Bush down the base's throat during the presidential primaries.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

326 Biden will be drugged and rehearsed and know all the qs and as. All scripted.

And the mod will be absolutely hostile to Trump.

It'll be nasty.

--

The one consolation to me is that none of that circus act, none of their covering for Biden, none of their hostile questions to Trump, none of their advantages to make Biden look better in any debate will negate the horrific inflation people are living with, or the spectacle of the millions of illegal aliens that have overrun the country, or the leftist Jew hatred that is consuming the campuses and elsewhere. This pile-on they think they'll do to Trump during this monkey show does nothing to assuage the dismal feelings everyone is having about the state of America under that old, corrupt buffoon's watch.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (mupln)

327 This is such a great idea.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (f6xX0)
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How about Navy and her mom as an invited guest? PDT is not above trolling. Remember, he invited Bill's former lover and Bill's death stare was something to behold.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (tT6L1)

328 And wouldn't you know it, Rep. Goldman, who rehearsed Cohen's testimony with him, is a client of Loren Merchan, the daughter of Judge Merchan who is running the Alvin Bragg show trial.

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I'm no fancy high profile HBCU graduate, but that don't seem like it should work that way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (f6xX0)

329 Joe hasn't been able to trust a fart since 2009, when he was put in charge of the first of many "summers of recovery".

Posted by: Codger Facts On File at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (V5BDR)

330 I will go read the article, but you always prep before court or arbitration. You know the questions your lawyer is going to ask, and you work through answers, with the caveat you answer honestly. Your lawyer helps you frame the response to ensure you are answer the question and nothing more. Why a member of congress what prepping him is interesting, though.

Oh, and on cross? Try to answer the question you want to answer, not necessarily the one asked.

Is it normal practice for the prosecution to outsource witness preparation in a criminal trail to a partisan political hack?
Posted by: Piper

Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (Amk6c)

331 You just know they're gonna pull a Donna Brazile and give him the questions in advance like she did for HRC.

*********

It seemed like a really big deal
With the Dem nomination to steal
Here's what I'm thinking
Her campaign was sinking
So they tossed her a buoy from Brazile

Posted by: Muldoon at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (991eG)

332 These "debates" will never happen.

FYI
Posted by: Max Power at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (q177U)
......

Sad, because they would be Comedy Gold.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (v0R5T)

333 mr trump, do you finally want to apologize to all the police officers who were killed on jan 6?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 15, 2024 12:53 PM (B1FKF)

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"They're STILL killing themselves to this day, h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (r3Yfj)

334 And the Democrat political incest, goes on and on.

https://tinyurl.com/3ccn8vb4
Posted by: lost in space at May 15, 2024 12:52 PM (Amk6c)

Always.

Somehow, I keep being surprised at just how small the ruling clique really is. Seems like I would have learned by now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (XjtdB)

335 It’s two different scenarios where complaining about one doesn’t contradict complaining about the other.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 12:54 PM (MNhXM)

So Trump just happens to choose the wrong move every time and these people are just smarter than he is. Got it.

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (H3Mdk)

336 Never underestimate Biden in a debate. He's been debating for 60 years and he'll have his moderator there to reaffirm his lies and help him out.

Posted by: Sandy Vigilante at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (wvn6O)

337 "so I didn't think I needed to specify."

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I got that one this weekend. Turns out it was the weeds in the driveway.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (f6xX0)

338 What a complete piece of shit

"I hear you are free on Wednesdays"

Absolutely shameless. Those trials are being done with full coordination and support of the White House.

I suppose he also told Jill's ex-husband "I would tell you to drive your Corvette over and talk to me, but you don't seem to have one anymore"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (P9xGM)

339 Why a member of congress what prepping him is interesting, though.

Posted by: Piper

What privilege could they claim on those prep sessions? Seems like the content might be relevant to proving Cohen has (yet another) reason to lie, i.e., the reduced sentence he got for cooperating.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (Dm8we)

340 Trump should have made it clear - accept the dates, but not the other terms. As it stands, he looks like he got goaded into accepting everything he gave up his ability to fight the rest of the terms because he will be painted as a coward who backed-out if he tries to change any of those other terms.

Again, this was offered in this manner to goad him into broad acceptance of unfair terms. He fell right in the trap. This is not 3D chess.

Posted by: Brian at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (iK8a4)

341 So they tossed her a buoy from Brazile

Posted by: Muldoon at May 15, 2024 12:56 PM (991eG)

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Nice!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (r3Yfj)

342 Even in friendly conversational interviews which can be edited, Biden screws up. There is no way he will be able to memorze answers to questions even if he knows them in advance. He needs s cheat sheet while sitting next to a Head of State. He has nothad a press conference that I can remember where the answers were not written down on a card in front of him. Unlike Trump, he never walks over the the Press line and answers questions. Shouts a one word answer and gets on a plane or helicopter.
He is hardly ever at the White House and when he is, usually only one or two things on his calender.
Can he even remember the names of World leaders or be able to expound on the issues of the day? Is he even being briefed?
It is absurd to assume that somehow he can be medicated enough to make up for his deteriorating mental state.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (t/2Uw)

343 Is it normal practice for the prosecution to outsource witness preparation in a criminal trail to a partisan political hack?
Posted by: Piper
Posted by: lost in space at May 15

Nope, that is why I said that part was interesting.

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (pZEOD)

344 mr trump, do you finally want to apologize to all the police officers who were killed on jan 6?
Posted by: gnats local 678
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Ah, yes. The 'Have you stopped beating your wife?' ploy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (XeU6L)

345 Just as believable as giant man eating rabbits. Remember Night of the Lepas? My late wife loved those hokey old horror films.

You want Night of the Lepus.

You'll take Empire of the Ants.

You get The Giant Gila Monster.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (Q0kLU)

346 Biden doesn't want to debate, and WILL NOT debate, unless he gets absolutely desperate. And he may be moving in that direction, but I don't think he is there yet. This was quite obviously public posturing with unreasonable terms, so that if Trump so much as took a breath before agreeing to everything, the Democrats can claim "Biden agreed to debate and Trump ran scared!" Trump had to come back strong, and did not agree to the terms. But I still think the Democrats are just trying to find a way to publicly save face and claim that it is Trump who won't debate.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (4+3qm)

347 340 Trump should have made it clear - accept the dates, but not the other terms. As it stands, he looks like he got goaded into accepting everything he gave up his ability to fight the rest of the terms because he will be painted as a coward who backed-out if he tries to change any of those other terms.

Again, this was offered in this manner to goad him into broad acceptance of unfair terms. He fell right in the trap. This is not 3D chess.
Posted by: Brian at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (iK8a4)

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Reading the Truth post, it reads like he's only accepting the times. It's pretty clear. I didn't even need a decoder ring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

348 Will Joe start laughing insanely, as he did with Paul Ryan?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2024 12:55 PM (XeU6L)
.......

Depends on which type of goofballs they hop him up on.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (v0R5T)

349 339 What privilege could they claim on those prep sessions? Seems like the content might be relevant to proving Cohen has (yet another) reason to lie, i.e., the reduced sentence he got for cooperating.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM

I am not a lawyer. Not sure if they had one there? Elric, what say you? Or Whig?

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (pZEOD)

350 285 I think some people are missing a big point here, biden was throwing down the gauntlet to Trump and hoping he would not pick it up. If Trump refuses to debate joe biden because of cnn conducting the debate joe biden wins. If Trump refused to debate biden regardless of the venue, again, biden wins.


Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (QNSds)
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You keep saying 'Biden wins', wins what?

Posted by: Ciampino - Titbit #03 at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (qfLjt)

351 "I hear you are free on Wednesdays"

Absolutely shameless. Those trials are being done with full coordination and support of the White House.

--

Back in 2021 or 2022 Biden made a statement in the Rose Garden, as the POTUS, that he would do everything in his power and with the full weight of the US government to make sure that the private citizen Donald Trump would never be president again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (f6xX0)

352 Biden Debate Bingo could be interesting.

Put me down for "Did you know Beau" died?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (tT6L1)

353 349 339 What privilege could they claim on those prep sessions? Seems like the content might be relevant to proving Cohen has (yet another) reason to lie, i.e., the reduced sentence he got for cooperating.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM

I am not a lawyer. Not sure if they had one there? Elric, what say you? Or Whig?
Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024

And if this guy is stating he helped prep, are they even claiming privilege?

Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (pZEOD)

354 What a complete piece of shit

"I hear you are free on Wednesdays"

Absolutely shameless. Those trials are being done with full coordination and support of the White House.

I suppose he also told Jill's ex-husband "I would tell you to drive your Corvette over and talk to me, but you don't seem to have one anymore"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (P9xGM)

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You can take the psychopathic narcissistic white trash thug out of a black Puerto Rican Jew neighborhood in Scranton, but ..

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (r3Yfj)

355 Key words: in a combative environment.

In this type of environment, I'll agree with you. In this type of situation Trump would absolutely (figuratively) punch back.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 15, 2024 12:46 PM (3ImbR)

I'd forgotten about the debate where that college switched the genders of Trump/Hillary and proved what a twatapotomus she was.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 01:00 PM (/nCD+)

356 That trailer for Dune: Prophecy is ... painful. With all the material at hand written by Herbert and his son, they opt for A Handmaid's Tale template combined with a power fantasy.

Oy.

Posted by: John Drake Nearing the Caspian Sea at May 15, 2024 01:00 PM (u/Zei)

357 Captain Splatter vs Orange Man Bad

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 01:00 PM (v0R5T)

358 Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 15, 2024 12:58 PM (4+3qm)

Biden doesn't know where he is. Maybe the lazy sluts in the GOP will tell us who is really running the WH. They know, just as they knew who shot Ashli Babbitt and who shut down the counting.

Posted by: GOP sux at May 15, 2024 01:01 PM (Zzbjj)

359 Love how Biden's tweet insinuates that he has been itching to debate Trump, but Trump "hasn't shown up."

Posted by: bluebell - register for the NoVaMoMe! at May 15, 2024 01:01 PM (bS+DD)

360 if there's an audience, trump should have five or six old women with blond hair who look just like dr jill. let them sit there touching their noses and twitching their mouths and abd oulling their earlobes and generally acting like they're giving joe signals. could make him totally confused

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 15, 2024 01:01 PM (B1FKF)

361 Biden Debate Bingo could be interesting.

Put me down for "Did you know Beau" died?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (tT6L1)

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"Trump murdered Beau with his speech in Charlottesville!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 01:01 PM (Q1BZZ)

362 Whatever "debate" occurs is not going to move the needle one iota.

Only political junkies and pundits will watch those debates. LIVs have better things to do with their time, like figure out a way to feed their families during these dark times.

They do know it's not Trump's fault that their budgets are strained to the maximum, leaving only one person to blame: FJB.

We'll have to see how that works on election day. The debates won't even matter by then.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 15, 2024 01:02 PM (7fElN)

363 You can take the psychopathic narcissistic white trash thug out of a black Puerto Rican Jew neighborhood in Scranton, but ..
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor
.......

"I used to work at Dunder Mifflin driving a forklift, Jack..."

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 01:02 PM (v0R5T)

364 Trump Faces Troubles, But Biden Campaign is Dead in the Water
A mass freakout in the Democratic Party as Joe can't find is own ass using both hands.

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:02 PM (RHGPo)

365 I think ... means the complaints about Trump not debating in the GOP primary. That was definitely a thing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 12:51 PM (iFTx/)

The difference, of course, being that Trump was winning the GOP primary whereas Biden is (currently) losing the General.

*Note: I didn't take a position on Trump debating during the primaries. The last Trump Wars chased me off, and I like this place, so I stayed out of it this time.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 15, 2024 01:02 PM (/nCD+)

366 That trailer for Dune: Prophecy is ... painful. With all the material at hand written by Herbert and his son, they opt for A Handmaid's Tale template combined with a power fantasy.

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You got to stick with what works, and, for whatever reason, women are crazy about rape fantasies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:03 PM (f6xX0)

367 will biden's handlers be allowed to keep him company on stage so he doesn't get lost?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 15, 2024 01:03 PM (B1FKF)

368 I think some people are missing a big point here, biden was throwing down the gauntlet to Trump and hoping he would not pick it up. If Trump refuses to debate joe biden because of cnn conducting the debate joe biden wins. If Trump refused to debate biden regardless of the venue, again, biden wins.

Trump had no choice but to agree to do any debate with biden anywhere or he would be seen as backing down from biden.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (QNSds)
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I agree.

Posted by: bluebell - register for the NoVaMoMe! at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (bS+DD)

369 I see Venezuela is moving troops to the border of Guyana in preparation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (lTGtQ)

370 Yes, very "concerned" indeed

Posted by: Cmonman at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (e6NQ9)

371 The stronger person doesn’t need concessions. The fact that Joetato needs so many rules and makes so many demands puts him in the weaker position before they even HAVE the debate…...

Posted by: Cookie at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (6piUq)

372 I hear you are free on Wednesdays
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The Moral Decency just oozes from him doesn't it.

But remember people think Trump is "too nasty".

Posted by: ... at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (H3Mdk)

373 That trailer for Dune: Prophecy is ... painful. With all the material at hand written by Herbert and his son, they opt for A Handmaid's Tale template combined with a power fantasy.

Oy.
Posted by: John Drake Nearing the Caspian Sea at May 15, 2024 01:00 PM (u/Zei)
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GRRRL! POWAH!!!

Man, that just looks awful.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (7fElN)

374 366 That trailer for Dune: Prophecy is ... painful. With all the material at hand written by Herbert and his son, they opt for A Handmaid's Tale template combined with a power fantasy.

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You got to stick with what works, and, for whatever reason, women are crazy about rape fantasies.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:03 PM (f6xX0)

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Feels more like (more) woman-centric Game of Thrones type stuff.

I dunno. Ancillary stuff to main franchises I'm interested in rarely actually interest me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

375 Team Trump needs to have a truly EXPERT radio-frequency analyst sitting ringside, with scanners set to pick up *any* Bluetooth or other such signals as might be sent to Jotato's earpiece.

While "jamming" is illegal, per FCC rules, intercepting and recording what's said on an open airwave would seem quite kosher to me. HAM, CB, Marine and Aviation VHF are all open frequencies, too. Everyone can tune in and listen.

And when enough damning "prompts" have been recorded, then at a signal, the recorder is handed to Trump, who presses "Play" with the speaker aimed at the live debate microphone.

Whereupon Trump simply declares, that FJB can't even stand at the podium and debate, without assistance.

Oh, and that FJB is a lying cheat, too.

A Sting in real time, live on teevee!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 15, 2024 01:05 PM (e6UQI)

376 Decoder rings should be part of AoS platinum

Posted by: TexasDan at May 15, 2024 01:05 PM (z/ifB)

377 What privilege could they claim on those prep sessions? Seems like the content might be relevant to proving Cohen has (yet another) reason to lie, i.e., the reduced sentence he got for cooperating.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM

I am not a lawyer. Not sure if they had one there? Elric, what say you? Or Whig?
Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024

And if this guy is stating he helped prep, are they even claiming privilege?
Posted by: Piper at May 15, 2024 12:59 PM (pZEOD)
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There would only be a privilege if Cohen were prepping with his own lawyer. There's no atty-client privilege between a prosecutor and a witness for the prosecution. What was said at the prep session is fair game. Even if Cohen had his own personal lawyer present at prep, the privilege wouldn't apply because a third party was also present (the prosecutor or the prosecutor's agent).

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

378 What a complete piece of shit

"I hear you are free on Wednesdays"

Absolutely shameless. Those trials are being done with full coordination and support of the White House.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 15, 2024 12:57 PM (P9xGM)

That's a good burn, sorry. The type of swipe that MAGA would be swooning if Trump made it about a Democratic facing trial.

Posted by: Theo at May 15, 2024 01:06 PM (aDP3H)

379 PJMedia: The Biden campaign is officially abandoning the Presidential Debates Commission.

For months, the campaign has been setting the stage for Joe Biden's potential refusal to engage in any presidential debates while simultaneously laying the groundwork to blame Donald Trump for it — even though Trump has been calling on Biden to debate the entire time. Now, the campaign says it will not participate in the three planned debates for the fall, set up by the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD).

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:06 PM (RHGPo)

380 The fucking Biden tough-guy act is so transparently gay that Liberace's hairdresser would be impressed by the gayness of it.

Dude has never so much busted a grape in a food fight and he's up here as a doddering old codger calling people "pal" like he's about to square off. Fuck off you senile old pervert.

Posted by: ballistic at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (oqH4h)

381 There won't be a debate and each will claim the other chickened out. It will be a non sequitur.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (lCWOD)

382 365 The Giant Gila Monster is a pretty good movie. At least the MST3K version.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (tA1+m)

383 Love how Biden's tweet insinuates that he has been itching to debate Trump, but Trump "hasn't shown up."

Posted by: bluebell - register for the NoVaMoMe! at May 15, 2024 01:01 PM (bS+DD)

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If it weren't for gaslighting, F. Joe would have no gas at all.

Wait, strike that!

If it weren't for gaslighting, F. Joe would have no lights on at all.

Better ... * cue Robert Palmer *

"The lights are on, but you're not home
Your mind is not your own
Your heart sweats, your body shakes
Another shit is what it takes ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (Q1BZZ)

384 Trump is such a fucking moron, he has learned absolutely nothing. But here we are with our backs against the wall. We have to vote for this clown show one more time.

Posted by: Olympian at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (Pd52X)

385 Trump had no choice but to agree to do any debate with biden anywhere or he would be seen as backing down from biden.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 15, 2024 12:49 PM (QNSds)
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Maybe Trump realize there was no way he was going to get a fair moderator because there ARE no fair moderators, so why not lean into it.

Posted by: WisRich at May 15, 2024 01:07 PM (G0vdT)

386 What is the rule?

Always tape the interview so you can show what the media shows as only propaganda.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (IU4H7)

387 Biden wins my heart and my panties!

>SQUEEEEEE!!!<

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (Zz86T)

388 I surprised that Team Biden doesn't want it only on radio

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (RHGPo)

389 380 The fucking Biden tough-guy act is so transparently gay that Liberace's hairdresser would be impressed by the gayness of it.
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That's what his dogs thought.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)

390 That's a good burn, sorry. The type of swipe that MAGA would be swooning if Trump made it about a Democratic facing trial.


by that logic, "I saw your mommy and your mommy is dead" was also a "good burn."

after they hit her with a car

a criminal commits a crime upon PDJT, completely illegally targeting him with the DOJ, and then jokes about it. oh yeah sick burn. there goes not just PDJT (and maybe not) but the USA. saaaahhhhhh-weet!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (s3qiR)

391 Always tape the interview so you can show what the media shows as only propaganda.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (IU4H7)
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A lesson Sarah Palin learned the hard way.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (Be/+i)

392 Joe thinks he's Harry Callahan or something.

Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (v0R5T)

393 Earlier today, President Biden challenged the former president to a debate. Former President Trump quickly responded with a statement of his own and during his interview with Hewitt.

During the interview, Trump noted that "I think we should go two hours." He added, "A stand-up podium is important. He wants to sit down... I think a debate should be standing up."

In terms of a moderator, Trump noted that he would like a fair moderator but added, "I'd be willing to take anybody. What difference does that make? I'd be willing to take anybody."

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (RHGPo)

394 "Trump had no choice but to agree to do any debate with biden anywhere or he would be seen as backing down from biden."

Does Trump ever back down from anything?

Posted by: davidt at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (SYTee)

395 Feels more like (more) woman-centric Game of Thrones type stuff.


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I just watched the trailer.

Looks like there's either an abortion or the live-birth murder of a (male) I assume twin so that a woman can assume the throne.

So very trendy and current events-centric. Good for them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (f6xX0)

396 Umm...

@BNONews
·
3m
JUST IN: Barge hits Pelican Island Bridge in Galveston, Texas, causing railway to collapse

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (IG4Id)

397 Sigh... Nood

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (IG4Id)

398 Dude has never so much busted a grape in a food fight and he's up here as a doddering old codger calling people "pal" like he's about to square off. Fuck off you senile old pervert.


hey unfair ...

he beat up his kids

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (s3qiR)

399 Joe thinks he's Harry Callahan or something.
Posted by: wth at May 15, 2024 01:08 PM (v0R5T)
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He's got the "making gun noises" part down.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 15, 2024 01:10 PM (Be/+i)

400 -----------

Maybe Trump realize there was no way he was going to get a fair moderator because there ARE no fair moderators, so why not lean into it.
Posted by: WisRich
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A stylistic counter punch.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 01:10 PM (lCWOD)

401 347 Reading the Truth post, it reads like he's only accepting the times. It's pretty clear. I didn't even need a decoder ring.

I see that as well. But, all of that language is at the end and is not clear. It should be written as: "I accept debates on those date's, on the condition that....."

Otherwise, it will be reported that you accepted unconditionally (as it was) - and any attempt to impose conditions later will be treated as cowardice. It was foolish, plain and simple.

Posted by: Brian at May 15, 2024 01:10 PM (iK8a4)

402 That trailer for Dune: Prophecy is ... painful. With all the material at hand written by Herbert and his son, they opt for A Handmaid's Tale template combined with a power fantasy.

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You got to stick with what works, and, for whatever reason, women are crazy about rape fantasies.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:03 PM (f6xX0)

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Feels more like (more) woman-centric Game of Thrones type stuff.

I dunno. Ancillary stuff to main franchises I'm interested in rarely actually interest me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)
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Looks terrible and terribly derivative. It will bomb. But in fairness, wasn't Herbert's history of the Bene Gesserit basically a version of girl-power Handmaid's Tale crapola, like what we see in the trailer? Been decades since I read the books.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 15, 2024 01:10 PM (iFTx/)

403 Trump is such a fucking moron, he has learned absolutely nothing. But here we are with our backs against the wall. We have to vote for this clown show one more time.
Posted by: Olympian

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Trump pulled back the curtain on 30+ years of uniparty. He's arguably the only reason we're in a position to have a chance to save our republic instead of just slow-walking into the 2030 worldwide plan.

Thank God for him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (f6xX0)

404 Fast-forward six months to May 13, 2024 — yesterday. The New York Times published a story headlined, “Trump Leads in 5 Key States, as Young and Nonwhite Voters Express Discontent With Biden.” A new poll showed Biden trailing in the same states by nearly the same margin as the old poll. Compare this sentence with the one from six months ago: “The surveys … found that Mr. Trump was ahead of Mr. Biden in five of six key states: Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. Mr. Biden led among registered voters in only one battleground state, Wisconsin.”

Think about it. In the past six months, Biden has traveled the country, touting what he believes are his economic accomplishments. He has spent zillions of dollars on advertising, focusing specifically on the key states. And at the same time, Trump was either preparing to go on trial or, since April 15, actually on trial in New York, facing a maximum of 136 years in prison. And Biden is still unable to catch Trump.

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (RHGPo)

405
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Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (RKVpM)

406 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (f6xX0)

You can pair it with Furosia for a girl power evening.

Posted by: polynikes at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (MNhXM)

407
:: Shakes fist at SMOD ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (RKVpM)

408 JUST IN: Barge hits Pelican Island Bridge in Galveston, Texas, causing railway to collapse
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 15, 2024 01:09 PM (IG4Id)

Coincidence? Nope. Prelude to totalitarianism. Garland will take off the Biden mask.

Posted by: GOP sux at May 15, 2024 01:12 PM (Zzbjj)

409 Have Laken Riley's parents sitting in the first row.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 15, 2024 01:13 PM (aFNOf)

410 You got to stick with what works, and, for whatever reason, women are crazy about rape fantasies.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden

Not being a woman, the rape fantasies thing isn't something I can say yea or nay to, except that one particular lady in New York did seem to have that as part of her rich imaginary world. I still remember CNN cutting away from the interview when she made that particular statement.

Hollywood does indeed seem to be stuck in a rut creatively. But the whole point of the Kwisatz Haderach is that he is the product of a systemic, long-term, genetic planning program run by the Bene Gesserit, fueled by their understanding that women can't do what such a being can accomplish. Their plan is to control him. Their entire sisterhood are able to do what they do because they stick to the background and don't make naked grabs for power.

Even David Lynch understood that. 2024 Hollywood, not so much.

Posted by: John Drake Nearing the Caspian Sea at May 15, 2024 01:14 PM (u/Zei)

411
Trump pulled back the curtain on 30+ years of uniparty. He's arguably the only reason we're in a position to have a chance to save our republic instead of just slow-walking into the 2030 worldwide plan.

Thank God for him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 15, 2024 01:11 PM (f6xX0)

Our last chance. They're testing the social credit systems, and preparing the stage for making us grovel for heat, food, water.

Posted by: GOP sux at May 15, 2024 01:14 PM (Zzbjj)

412 at least for the first debate, Biden did absolutely destroy Trump.

Trump is a terrible debater, he won’t do the homework.

Everybody thought last time Trump would smoke the obviously demented and senile Biden.

Biden will be out on his drug cocktail, hit his talking points, and Trump will look like a sputtering idiot because he refused to work with a debate coach.

Posted by: Olympian at May 15, 2024 01:14 PM (Pd52X)

413 Posted by: Olympian at May 15, 2024 01:14 PM (Pd52X)

Yeah, assuming that your opponent is a doomed weakling and that victory is in the bag is a bad, bad idea no matter the circumstances. You never just assume you'll win easily. That's just stupid. That's especially stupid when we've already had multiple Biden-Trump matchups, and Biden's won 100% of them so far.

Posted by: Theo at May 15, 2024 01:17 PM (aDP3H)

414 That Biden tweet intends to mislead, pretending that Trump has refused to debate Biden. The fact is that Biden has avoided a debate with Trump. Trump has not had an opportunity to turn down a debate with Biden because there hasn't been such an opportunity.

Posted by: Emmie at May 15, 2024 01:18 PM (Sf2cq)

415 Trump pulled back the curtain on 30+ years of uniparty. He's arguably the only reason we're in a position to have a chance to save our republic instead of just slow-walking into the 2030 worldwide plan.

Thank God for him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Posted by: Braenyard at May 15, 2024 01:19 PM (lCWOD)

416 Trump should insist on questions from the Moderators (and they should be chosen by him as well as Biden) about the following issues:

The economy;

How to create more jobs;

What to do about inflation;

The war in Israel and how to end it;

The Ukraine war;

The Protests on college campuses;

The border and immigration crisis:

and fitness for Office.

Otherwise we will get non stop questions abortion, trans rights and climate change which most Americans could not care less about.

Posted by: Czech Chick at May 15, 2024 01:20 PM (I6NNh)

417 Here's what's *going* to happen:
SloJo makes his CornPop challenge.

Trump accepts.

New York Judge immediately imposes a gag order and media lockdown.

Posted by: Richard Sean McEnroe at May 15, 2024 01:20 PM (Ds3Rc)

418 Biden declares victory.

Posted by: Richard Sean McEnroe at May 15, 2024 01:21 PM (Ds3Rc)

419 In search of a "place of sanity" ?

Peru classifies transgender, nonbinary and intersex people as ‘mentally ill’

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:24 PM (RHGPo)

420 At about 10 a.m., the vessel under tow broke loose and slammed into the railroad side of the bridge,
-----------

'Broke loose'?

You had one job....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2024 01:25 PM (XeU6L)

421 The Peruvian government has officially classified transgender, nonbinary and intersex people as “mentally ill.” The controversial decision was made to ensure the country’s public health services could “guarantee full coverage of medical attention for mental health” for the trans community, the Peruvian health ministry explained, according to the Telegraph. The decree will supposedly alter the language in the Essentials Health Insurance Plan to reflect that trans and intersex people have a mental disorder, LGBTQ+ outlet Pink News reported. Despite the change, trans and other LGBTQ+ people will not be forced to undergo conversion therapies.

Posted by: SMOD at May 15, 2024 01:25 PM (RHGPo)

422 "I keep saying that's a state issue."

"Then why do you want to allow Mississippi to execute abortion doctors?"

"I'm not a dictator. This is a constitutional republic."

Headline: Trump is dictator and wants to murder abortion doctors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

We only execute them on the first Tuesday after the second Monday of every month, so as to allow more time for hooternannies and general hootin' and hollerin' fueled by large jugs of shine. Any other time we tar-and-feather them and/or exile them to Arkansas.

Posted by: John Drake Nearing the Caspian Sea at May 15, 2024 01:26 PM (u/Zei)

423 Sure are a lot of one name concern trolls here today.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 01:27 PM (LkLld)

424 Posted by: JackStraw at May 15, 2024 01:27 PM (LkLld)

Remember when you confidently declared that Trump wouldn't face any trial before the election?

Wanna update on that, champ?

Posted by: Theo at May 15, 2024 01:29 PM (LjKeY)

425 Remember what Biden did to Paul Ryan? It's not impossible for Biden to make Trump look bad with help from the media. If Biden gets enough votes that the uniparty can fortify the election again, then collapse gets closer. Can't help but think that it's deserved. We should have snuffed out the communists when we had the chance.

Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at May 15, 2024 01:37 PM (nVi9d)

426 "These include no audience, no interruptions from Trump while Biden is speaking, and only Biden-friendly news outlets can moderate (CBS, ABC, CNN, or Telemundo)."

I agree that trump will be debating the media, but the no interruptions rule? That last thing you want to do is interrupt Biden when he is talking.

Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at May 15, 2024 01:45 PM (nLFEI)

427 I think Dirty Old Joe is just counting on Trump being in jail by the first debate so that there won't be one.

Posted by: RebeccaH at May 15, 2024 01:46 PM (Nvors)

428 Fuck that retarded tween-diddling asshole with a rusty chainsaw.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 15, 2024 01:59 PM (GQ2Rt)

429 Trump should do well against Biden. But he won't. He's not disciplined enough. At best he'll look like he's bullying a frail old man. Debates won't help Trump.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 15, 2024 02:01 PM (Te7DI)

430 Don't forget Chris Wallace won Trump the election when he cribbed from The West Wing and said he would go deep into topics, thinking this would expose Trump. Instead he won the Midwest by spending the first half hour on guns and abortion. Trump delivered the most pro-life performance ever.

Posted by: MikeN at May 15, 2024 02:01 PM (XygMV)

431 Total wild eyed guess but Trump is at and beyond his boiling point due to forced daily attendance at the NYC Stalin Show Trial.
Agreeing instantly to potato head's demands is likely a move born out of supreme frustration and legit anger for potato head using DOJ to arrange and direct Trumps persecution.
Would bet the ranch that the written broadcast scripted results' of the debates are being drafted now by the Dem/Commie media. And temporarily the media collusion may bump up Biden. But as Bannon says the lived experience of Americans will bear NO resemblance to anything potato head says or that his dick-sucking media writes that he said.
Reality is the wicked bitch potato head has to whip. And he cannot. You could make the case that the harder he tries to bullshit his way out of reality the more of his traditional constituencies he loses.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at May 15, 2024 02:49 PM (E1XXG)

432 And RIGHT THERE is the real Ace I've come to know, he of sarcastic snark because he's got all the answers and he hates Trump too.
Hitting the bottle again Ace?

Posted by: Tracy at May 15, 2024 04:01 PM (KnYVp)

433 I want to see Biden totally destroyed him and his Dictatorship Time to clean out the Whitehouse from the Horrible mess called Liberal Democrats

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 15, 2024 05:25 PM (wGqjj)

434
Besides, it's unclear that debates have much effect anymore with the 24/7/365 political news cycle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 15, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

Time was when I (and others I suspect) learned something from debates. No longer.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 15, 2024 05:50 PM (84PaW)

435
Posted by: John Drake Nearing the Caspian Sea at May 15, 2024 01:26 PM (u/Zei)

You at the Caspian Sea yet John?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 15, 2024 05:52 PM (84PaW)

436 Only a complete mauling in a debate (first Romney/Obama debate, for example) nudges the poll numbers at all anymore. Given the rules that Trump agreed to, these debates will be essentially draws, just like their debates 2020.

You do have to chuckle at those who are surprised when *gasp* Trump agrees to bad deals and surrounds himself with morons. Helloooooo... Just this week he's been sitting in a courtroom listening to his own idiot, perjured ex-counsel testify against him. The Apprentice was fiction, folks. Trump is many things, a hiring savant is not one of them.

Posted by: Doug at May 16, 2024 10:26 AM (DWmNA)

437 frzUkGBjecbqZvm

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