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Unbelievably -- or Perfectly Believably, Honestly -- Biden Is Attempting to Pressure Israel to Allow Hamas to Survive, So They Can Be "Partners In Peace (TM)" Together

The Sage of Scranton has an evil, twisted, rotten brain and always has had.


The reporter at the Times of Israel first notes the "dissonance" of Biden attempting to force a quickie "wrap-up" of the Gaza campaign, while continuing to make (insincere) noises about the need for the "elimination" of Hamas.

Anonymously -- of course -- administration sources attempt to paper over this enormous gulf by saying the want Hamas not eliminated, but merely chastened, so that the Two State Solution can be put back on track.

From The Times of Israel:

"If we can get a ceasefire, we can get something more enduring and then maybe end the conflict," White House National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said this month.

What appears less clear, though, is how pushing for this ceasefire squares with another US commitment, which is to eliminate the threat of Hamas.

"An enduring defeat of Hamas certainly remains the Israeli goal, and we share that goal with it," Kirby said last week.

The two objectives seem to clash, given that a temporary-turned-permanent deal with Hamas would ostensibly leave the terror group standing in Gaza.


The Biden administration has not directly and publicly addressed this apparent dissonance, but two US officials and two other sources familiar with the matter who spoke to The Times of Israel on condition of anonymity offered some clarity.
IDF troops operate in the Gaza City neighborhood of Zeitoun, in a handout image released May 11, 2024. (Israel Defense Forces)

"The goal is for Hamas to be severely weakened when the dust settles, i.e., incapable of carrying out another attack like the one [it] launched on October 7," the first US official said, referring to the terror onslaught unleashed on southern Israel during which some 1,200 people were killed and 252 were taken hostage.

"But we have to be honest about the fact that Hamas will remain in Gaza in some form after the war is over. The past six months have proven no amount of fighting is going to change that," they added. Last week, Israeli troops raided Gaza City's Zeitoun neighborhood for the third time since the war's outbreak after Hamas fighters returned to areas previously cleared by the IDF.
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"What we are trying to do is advance a vision where Hamas would be marginalized, while Israel would be stronger through improved relations with its Arab neighbors," the official explained. "By doing that, we are able to eliminate the threat of Hamas without having to continue the war indefinitely."

"It's a years-long process, and it will require Israeli buy-in, but the alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that the Israelis could be left alone to deal with," a second US official said, referencing the danger of waning international support.

What do you expect from a decrepit pervert who showered with his daughter as she entered puberty?


Shocker: the UN revised its "estimates" of the number of women and children killed in Hamas. It turns out they shouldn't have trusted Hamas for the real numbers.

The UN's new numbers are also preposterous, but they've cut them nearly in half.

Throughout the ongoing war unfolding in Gaza, we have been reminded of the "barbarous" actions of Israel's military, typically measured via daily updates to the number of women and children that have been killed. Unfortunately, the only group providing these figures is the Gaza Ministry of Health which is run by Hamas. That detail hasn't stopped the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) from dutifully reporting those figures without raising any questions. However, that situation appeared to change this month. The latest Health Ministry quote said that 9,500 women and 14,500 children have been killed in the fighting, with the OCHA reporting the same. But only two days later, the UN revised those numbers significantly. In fact, they nearly slashed them by half. (Fox News)

In a dramatic shift, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) has revised its data pertaining to the number of Palestinian casualties in the seven-month-old Gaza war, reducing almost by half the number of women and children it previously said were killed in the hostilities between Israel and the Iranian-backed terror group Hamas.

According to an infographic published in OCHA's daily report on May 6, the number of women killed in the fighting was said to be 9,500, while the organization, which admits to relying on figures from the Hamas-run Ministry of Health in Gaza, claimed that 14,500 children had been killed since the war began on Oct. 7.

Two days later, in its May 8 report, the U.N. agency appeared to have cut the number nearly in half, showing instead that some 4,959 women and 7,797 children had been killed so far in the war.

A spokesman for the UN was asked how the numbers had shifted so dramatically. He said that the figures are only "estimates" and that they sometimes change based on the situation on the ground in Gaza. But he also noted that the UN has recently been able to have some of their own people doing independent research inside of the Strip. Perhaps that's how the inaccuracies were uncovered.

The Foundation Defending Democracies reported:

The Gaza Ministry of Health cannot provide names of more than 10,000 of the 34,000 individuals it says have died during the war between Israel and Hamas. While the Health Ministry conceded earlier this month that it has "incomplete data" for nearly one-third of the deceased, this is the first admission that it lacks an essential data point necessary to establish these deaths have even taken place...

Psst: they didn't.

Hamas' official figures include almost no deaths of terrorists (or "fighters," as they prefer to call them). They just claim that every dead man is a "child" or a "woman."

We've all seen the "child migrants" attending schools in Europe, their five-o-clock shadows slightly grayed...

After claiming all dead men are actually "children" and "women" (muh pronouns), they then multiply the actual casualty counts by a factor of five or eight or ten.


I missed this yesterday: The Biden Administration is attempting to bribe (coerce?) Israel into allowing Biden's pals in Hamas to escape retribution by promising that they'll provide intelligence about Hamas' tunnels and hideouts, as well as about the hideouts of Hamas' terror masters, if they promise not to enter Rafah.

This means that, currently, Biden is withholding information about terrorist bases and boltholes from an ally.

Time to impeach?

barry Tigay
@TigayBarry

US said offering intel on Hamas leaders' whereabouts if Israel drops major Rafah op.

If true, this means that the US is withholding or threatening to withhold intelligence that could destroy Hamas, save lives and end the war. Disgusting.

David Strom:

Uh, what? Why haven't we been giving Israel this information freely already? Whose side are we on?

We're on the terrorists' side, because Joe Biden wants to win the pro-terrorist Newcomers of Michiganistan.

Oh, right. Joe Biden is president, which always means the US is doing the wrong thing.

The Biden administration has reportedly offered to give Israel "sensitive intelligence" on the whereabouts of senior Hamas leaders if it agrees to hold off on a long-promised major military operation in Gaza's southernmost city of Rafah.

The Washington Post quoted four unnamed sources as saying that the United States "is offering Israel valuable assistance if it holds back, including sensitive intelligence to help the Israeli military pinpoint the location of Hamas leaders and find the group's hidden tunnels."

The Post's story focuses mainly on the efforts to convince Israel to build a tent city for civilians in Rafah to evacuate to before Israel commits its military to destroying Hamas in the city...

But the real news in the story is that the carrot the US is using to induce Israel to bend to our will is access to intelligence on the location of Hamas tunnels and leaders.

The Biden administration, working urgently to stave off a full-scale Israeli invasion of Rafah, is offering Israel valuable assistance in an effort to persuade it to hold back, including sensitive intelligence to help the Israeli military pinpoint the location of Hamas leaders and find the group's hidden tunnels, according to four people familiar with the U.S. offers.

American officials have also offered to help provide thousands of shelters so Israel can build tent cities -- and to help with the construction of delivery systems for food, water and medicine -- so that Palestinians evacuated from Rafah can have a habitable place to live, said the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to disclose secret diplomatic talks.

It is possible, although no better, that the US has been supplying what intelligence we have up to now and that the "offers" here are actually threats to withhold information unless Israel compliss. The US officials who spoke to the Post did say the US has been providing intel throughout the war.

Israel says they're fighting Biden's Allies anyway, and killing terrorists.

Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have deepened their offensive in Rafah and re-entered northern areas of Gaza, following intelligence that Hamas was reorganizing in the area. The IDF has reportedly destroyed significant amounts of underground infrastructure and eliminated several Hamas terrorists.

Key Details:

The IDF dropped leaflets over Jabalya in northern Gaza, warning civilians to evacuate and warning Hamas leadership, "We will return like a roaring flood until the clear victory."

The IDF's 98th Division launched an operation in the Jabalya area due to intelligence about Hamas reorganizing in the area.

Israeli forces have reportedly destroyed large amounts of underground infrastructure and eliminated several Hamas terrorists.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:40 PM




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1 I nooded.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 14, 2024 05:42 PM (O7YUW)

2 "Partners in Peace??"

Good grief. WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 05:42 PM (YqDXo)

3 Good conservatives like Lindsay Graham are encouraging Israel to use nuclear weapons on Iran.

Posted by: Joos That Fund Universities at May 14, 2024 05:43 PM (Y+9UH)

4 There was a ceasefire on 10/6/2023. Hamas had their own state on 10/6/2023.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (u73oe)

5 Huh? What is more peaceful than reducing your enemies to corpses...

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (FQmDC)

6 Sigh

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (Z8Yh2)

7
How the hell did we get to the point that the muslin population in a battleground state gets to decide our foreign policy?

FU W,W,D

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (RKVpM)

8 Next thing you know Biden will be pushing homosexuals off buildings.

Posted by: Redenzo at May 14, 2024 05:46 PM (h2mlA)

9 Psst. Hey, kid... Joe just reads the screens and does what They tell him.

So he doesn't get in trouble.

Posted by: The Presidential Teleprompter at May 14, 2024 05:46 PM (xdU4O)

10 "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."

-- Dante

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 05:46 PM (cHnAb)

11 But we have to be honest about the fact that Hamas will remain in Gaza in some form after the war is over.



Fuck 'em. Nuke Gaza. Turn it into the DMZ.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2024 05:46 PM (gMj+h)

12 How the hell did we get to the point that the muslim population in a battleground state gets to decide our foreign policy?

FU W,W,D

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (RKVpM)
_______________

Because we were stupid enough to allow Muslims to come to this country. See also Somalis, illegal aliens, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (YqDXo)

13 What does Hamas need to do to get their point across?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (JLq/1)

14 Oh no, the "cycle of violence" again?

I though Biden took a header off that last year and hasn't been on it since.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (TcVeV)

15 Many Muslims are being installed in government positions

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (fwDg9)

16 Israel is going to defeat and destroy Hamas. They take that Never Again stuff seriously over there.

Biden and his team can't even come to a single position on Hamas that is why they are unable to articulate one. And those 30,000 votes in Michiganistan won't mail themselves in! (Oh wait there's an idea)

When Dearborn comes a calling in Chicago during the convention make sure your popcorn is buttered.

Posted by: blaster at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (IFNME)

17 Kill 1200 people, kidnap hundreds more, throw babies in ovens...
What's it gonna take to be taken seriously around here?

Posted by: Hamas at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (MeG8a)

18 The UN's new numbers are also preposterous, but they've cut them nearly in half.
---------

The UN?

Who? I'd like to throw them a party.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (lX8VI)

19 Because we were stupid enough to allow Muslims to come to this country.

Winston Churchill says "THIS"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (TcVeV)

20 Many Muslims are being installed in government positions

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 05:47 PM (fwDg9)
______________

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (YqDXo)

21 When I bite into a York Peppermint Pattie, I get the sensation.

When I recall hearing of Biden's foreign policy gravitas during the Obama error, I get nauseous.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (4I/2K)

22 The US of A had three firm allies in 2022.

Japan, South Korea, and Israel.

Our government threw Israel off the sled.
Our "President" called Japan Xenophobic, deeply insulting an allies nation.

If I were the leader of Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, I would make a strenuous effort to get nuclear payloads to place on existing rockets.

We act as if allies of our nation are unneeded. Instead we are making our countries enemy list longer and longer. Who would trust the US going forward?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (u82oZ)

23 I'm glad the Israelis appear to have told the Washington regime to get bent, at least for now.

Dispose of Hamas as you see fit, and show it can be done without the Death Cult's support, and in fact in spite of it.

Take them down another peg. It's time for the world to treat them as pariahs. They're evil.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2024 05:48 PM (0FoWg)

24 Israel should have gone it alone from the start. Now its military defense is based on the whims of the North American liberal.

Nothing can be done about a losing bet but pay up.

Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 05:49 PM (JQiMb)

25 When Israel finishes cleaning the Muslims out Gaza, maybe we should ask them to have a go at Detroit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (YqDXo)

26 Upon deep reflection I found I was getting medieval.



Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (Z8Yh2)

27 The only chance right now for peace between Israel and Hamas is for Israel to complete the destruction of that hateful organization. You cannot live (much less in peace) with someone whose sole purpose is your death and destruction; they are incompatible with each other.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (ynpvh)

28
S&M Is a legitimate form of partnership, judgmental haters.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (j4U/Z)

29 If only there was an opposition party that would impeach Biden for quid-pro-quo. It's been done once already.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (N39Ws)

30 Has the administration started planning how they can import 10,00 terrorists yet?

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (fwDg9)

31 Obama must really hate this country.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (TcVeV)

32 Maybe if Israel didn't reelect Netanyahu, we would've told them that 10/7 was coming. [Crosses arms, smirking.]

Posted by: Biden Betas at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (qUkBO)

33 Hamas: DEATH TO ISRAEL! DEATH TO ALL JEWS!

Biden: C’mon Bibi, can’t you meet em halfway?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (u73oe)

34 Hamas sure has a lot of territory they occupy for there not to have been a two state solution already.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (CmpAx)

35 After Hamas is crushed the Biden admin will grant asylum to the survivors

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (FQmDC)

36 The IDF has reportedly destroyed significant amounts of underground infrastructure and eliminated several Hamas terrorists.

Underground Infrastructure, i.e. tunnels and all the stuff Hamas has put in them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (ynpvh)

37
Trump will abandon our allies!

Trump will prop up corrupt regimes!

Trump is a molester!

Trump will use the State to go after his political opponents!

Trump has dementia!

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (lX8VI)

38 Like a summer time buddy cop movie where one guy is a likable funny rabbi and the other is John Wayne Gacy.

Brilliant!

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (Y6IkP)

39 *Partners in Peace*


Does that mean that hamas will only be allowed to kill 1,000 Jews a year? Will biden establish a quota system and tie Israel's hands behind their back so they can't retaliate to rocket attacks?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (QNSds)

40 Israel should have gone it alone from the start.


Yes, please.

It would be wonderful to have an American government whose top priority was America.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (Y+9UH)

41 30 Has the administration started planning how they can import 10,00 terrorists yet?

Oh, that's in the execution phase. Stage 2, actually.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (qUkBO)

42 Has Joe started wearing a presidential keffiya?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (JLq/1)

43 Joe needs to start another war so everyone will forget about the war in Gaza. Worked with Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (LkLld)

44 Carpet bomb Gaza.

Posted by: Catch Thorty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (84PaW)

45 The Sage of Scranton? Don't you mean The Pervert of Pennsylvania?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (0eaVi)

46 How come he isn't asking his buddy Voldemort Z. to be a "peace partner" with Putin?

Posted by: Droopy_TX at May 14, 2024 05:54 PM (Wsh62)

47 25 When Israel finishes cleaning the Muslims out Gaza, maybe we should ask them to have a go at Detroit.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

The geographic front lines of the Michigan Civil War is an interesting puzzle, and depends on who's allied with whom.

You'd think the Yoopers would be with the Westerners, but they're an odd, unreliable bunch.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 05:54 PM (j4U/Z)

48
8/10/23 - Biden Gives 6 Billion to Iran

Wonder what they used it for.

Just saying.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 05:54 PM (lX8VI)

49 It isn't just Biden, it is also the whole cabal around him.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:55 PM (RIvkX)

50 33 Hamas: DEATH TO ISRAEL! DEATH TO ALL JEWS!

Biden: C’mon Bibi, can’t you meet em halfway?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 14, 2024 05:51 PM (u73oe)

Sounds like that joke...
A man finds a bottle, and upon trying to clean it to read its label, a genie appears and grants him three wishes with one proviso: that his MIL get 2x what he gets.
1st wish: $1 Billion in his bank account. Genie grants it and says, "Your Mother-in-law now has $2 Billion dollar in her accounts."
2nd wish: A large Mansion on the beach with a large surrounding estate. Genie says, "You're Mother-in-Law now has two such properties."
3rd wish: "I wish to be beaten half to death."...
2nd wish

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:55 PM (ynpvh)

51 Israel, release all the intel on the Deep State and the stolen election in 2020 and 2022.

And make every, repeat, every building in Gaza rubble.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 05:55 PM (u82oZ)

52 They Can Be "Partners In Peace (TM)" Together
====================
Or, and this is another thought, Israel kills them all and is Partners in Peace with the remaining Gazans.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 14, 2024 05:55 PM (ppwwy)

53 38 Like a summer time buddy cop movie where one guy is a likable funny rabbi and the other is John Wayne Gacy.

Brilliant!
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 05:52 PM (Y6IkP)

Wasn't that the Frisco Kid?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 05:55 PM (CmpAx)

54 48
8/10/23 - Biden Gives 6 Billion to Iran

Wonder what they used it for.

Just saying.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 05:54 PM (lX8VI)

Here, try this yellow cake; It's delicious.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (ynpvh)

55 How the hell did we get to the point that the muslin population in a battleground state gets to decide our foreign policy?

FU W,W,D

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 05:44 PM (RKVpM)

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Out: The tail wagging the dog.
In: The tail shagging the goat.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (sAaGN)

56 Hey, ICE and DEA.....if Gazans can be partners in Mid East peace, we'd like to volunteer as your partners in sobriety and border security.

Posted by: Drug Cartels at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (cCxiu)

57 Now that I can spell again…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (84PaW)

58 44 Carpet bomb Gaza.

Posted by: Catch Thorty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (84PaW)

Are there any carpets left?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (ynpvh)

59 43 Joe needs to start another war so everyone will forget about the war in Gaza. Worked with Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (LkLld)

Don't we still have Ukraine?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (CmpAx)

60 "It would be wonderful to have an American government whose top priority was America."

It's all about the skim.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM (Z8Yh2)

61 "Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity."

Posted by: W. Churchill at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM (2jsTD)

62 We'll always have...Kyv

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM (FQmDC)

63 Oh, right. Joe Biden is president, which always means the US is doing the wrong thing.
===

It's what he has always done best.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM (RIvkX)

64 60 "It would be wonderful to have an American government whose top priority was America."

It's all about the skim.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM (Z8Yh2)

Hey now. There is a significant part of the current regime wholly focused on destroying its enemies here in the US; us.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:58 PM (ynpvh)

65 Let me assure you Hamas, Joe Biden is powerless.

Get your rags ready for your impending funeral.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (RIvkX)

66 >>The Sage of Scranton has an evil, twisted, rotten brain and always has had.

The D.C. Daughter Dunker.

Posted by: Truthbomb at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (8u1Ia)

67 >>Don't we still have Ukraine?

If the reports coming out of Ukraine are accurate, not for much longer.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (LkLld)

68 The number of people who think that Gazans want peace would be funny if it weren't so stupid. Americans know nothing about this. Nothing. They just have some emotional semi-thought that there should be peace, and then work backwards from that to argue for it. They don't even consider the possibility (read: FACT) that they might not want peace.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (0FoWg)

69 Hey now. There is a significant part of the current regime wholly focused on destroying its enemies here in the US; us.

I'm sure they aren't carefully loading all the faces they see at Trump rallies into a database for facial recognition...

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (FQmDC)

70 Hey, ICE and DEA.....if Gazans can be partners in Mid East peace, we'd like to volunteer as your partners in sobriety and border security.
Posted by: Drug Cartels at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (cCxiu)

Deal!

Posted by: ICE and DEA at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (0eaVi)

71 Partners in Pieces.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (vFG9F)

72 In Iraq and 'Stan it was common for the US to hit a group of jihadis with a missile or bomb strike, the jihadi's allies to go pick up the weapons, then call in a friendly NGO to show "America bombed a group of children/civilians"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (ibTVg)

73 Are there any carpets left?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 14, 2024 05:56 PM (ynpvh)

Not if the carpet bombing is thorough.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:00 PM (84PaW)

74 I say, "Biden doesn't have a clue about what to constructively do on any topic or issue you can name."

Posted by: Occam's Razor at May 14, 2024 06:00 PM (5fDan)

75 If the reports coming out of Ukraine are accurate, not for much longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (LkLld)

That's a big 'If', Jack.

The ladies must love that 'If.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:00 PM (CmpAx)

76 68 The number of people who think that Gazans want peace would be funny if it weren't so stupid. Americans know nothing about this. Nothing. They just have some emotional semi-thought that there should be peace, and then work backwards from that to argue for it. They don't even consider the possibility (read: FACT) that they might not want peace.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (0FoWg)

Gazans cheerfully voted for Hamas at every opportunity they had. Nuff said.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (84PaW)

77 If the reports coming out of Ukraine are accurate, not for much longer.

Some reports suggest Vlad was stretching things out on his side because bankrolling the Ukes is bankrupting the US.

But...I guess he can only do that for so long as there aren't enough Uke men to man the lines anymore

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (ibTVg)

78 The funny part is that buffoonish ace is pretending that either side of the aisle is actually doing anything to stand in Israel's way.

Biden's regime mouths words about Israel to appease his younger voting base, but in actions his regime has sent warships, armaments, military aid packages, denounced the ICC, and blocked UN resolutions.

And his regime has voted for and will enact legislation to tell everyday Americans they must not criticize Israel, as defined by an Israeli NGO, or face federal prosecution.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (Y+9UH)

79 It's a years-long process, and it will require Israeli buy-in, but the alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that the Israelis could be left alone to deal with," a second US official said,

JFHC. What do you think the last 20+ years has been about?

The Saudis don't want them.

The Egyptians don't want them.

The Jordanians don't want them.

The Lebanese don't want them.

And yet, Joe says we should all work together to give them a state and Prop them up.

William Gates. You prescient bastard

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (JkCto)

80 There is a great Twitter thread written by an ex soldier (American)...in it he suggests that Israel is not going to try the disproven Western plan of "clear / hold / build." They are simply knocking the snot out of Hamas, destroying their infrastructure and weapons, and then giving them back to the Gazans, who apparently still want them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (d9fT1)

81 ... so that the Two State Solution can be put back on track.

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There was a Two State Solution and Ceasefire before 10/7.

Shove that track up your ass, terrorists and those who love & enable them ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (sAaGN)

82 so that the Two State Solution can be put back on track.

Permanent hostilities! ...and profit!

Posted by: The Deep State at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (Fr3vV)

83 Bulldoze Gaza.

Send the inhabitants to other Muslim countries. Like Iran. Or Afghanistan. Syria? Lebanon?

They can find jobs in Dubai.

Turn Gaza into an Israeli paradise with vacation condos and beaches and orchards.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (SVX08)

84 Leaflet and inform by radio, all over Gaza.

The Pulverization Will Continue Until Gazans Vote Hamas OUT of Power.

And then proceed, block by block, to grind the concrete buildings into sand, and send all the steel beams and rebar back into Israel, to be smelted down and re cast or forged as Israel sees fit.

Block by Block by Every City Block. Leave nothing behind, but sand.

Might not change a damn thing, but then, WHY leave them any damn thing that could be of *any* use, whatsoever?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (e6UQI)

85 I know it's shorthand to say "Biden did this, Biden did that."

But that pants-shitting dotard likely barely knows what day it is. It's the vile monsters propping up his clattering puppet form perpetrating this evil. Might as well have speeches and press releases read by Tickle Me Elmo.

Posted by: South Park Kids at Waterworld at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (hZc6Q)

86 They paved Gaza and put up a parking lot

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (FQmDC)

87 Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (Y+9UH)

You are welcome to disagree with your host, but don't be a douchebag.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (d9fT1)

88 If the reports coming out of Ukraine are accurate, not for much longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (LkLld)

——————

Good. I’m not a big fan of Putin. I’m even less a fan of senseless slaughter. End it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (u73oe)

89 "It's a years-long process, and it will require Israeli buy-in, but the alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that the Israelis could be left alone to deal with," a second US official said,"

Cause the last 20-30 years of rocket attacks and suicide attacks, capped off by 10/7 have been a fucking picnic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (CmpAx)

90 *removes sock*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (hZc6Q)

91 William Gates. You prescient bastard

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (JkCto)

------------

Robert Gates.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (sAaGN)

92 nurse ratched

Glad you are posting. Hope the healing continues.

May you turn your three small scars into a Saga that terrifies Hamas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (u82oZ)

93 The Saudis..Egyptians.. Jordanians..Lebanese don't want them.

And yet, Joe says we should all work together to give them a state and Prop them up.


New Jersey, I was thinking. We should give them New Jersey.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM (Fr3vV)

94 If Hamas is not allowed to survive, Joey will make President Obama sad. Can't have that - they have friendship bracelets!

Posted by: Candidus at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM (dnWAs)

95 The IDF dropped leaflets over Jabalya in northern Gaza, warning civilians to evacuate and warning Hamas leadership, "We will return like a roaring flood until the clear victory


ISWYDT Isreal

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM (JkCto)

96 You are welcome to disagree with your host, but don't be a douchebag.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (d9fT1)

Well, someone has to do the dirty work.

Posted by: douchebag at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM (0eaVi)

97 We should give them New Jersey.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM (Fr3vV)

Not until I sell my house!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:05 PM (d9fT1)

98 88 If the reports coming out of Ukraine are accurate, not for much longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (LkLld)

——————

Good. I’m not a big fan of Putin. I’m even less a fan of senseless slaughter. End it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 14, 2024 06:03 PM (u73oe)

I’m not a fan of Russia conquering Ukraine, either. I blame our leadership for not allowing us to drill like mad for oil to reduce what Russia could do economically as their budget is tied to the price of oil.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:05 PM (84PaW)

99 We'll always have...Kyv
Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 05:57 PM

*looks at campus protesters*

Here's aimin' at you, kids.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2024 06:05 PM (Wnv9h)

100 FJB
FJB
FJB

Funny thing is that the knows exactly how many it has killed and reports the numbers.
The numbers released by Hamas include wounded. How wounded? Scrapes, broken bones, colds?
Israel said originally 30,000 terrorists and that they have wiped out at least half. They have destroyed miles of tunnels. They have destroyed most ofthe major manufacturing plants for rockets and ammunitions. Hamas is not being resupplied because there is no way to get them to them.
Israel will finish the job because they are really close to getting it done.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 06:05 PM (t/2Uw)

101 Robert Gates.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-

TY

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:05 PM (JkCto)

102 I'd let Hamas join in working with me.
Digging their own graves counts, doesn't it?

Posted by: From about That Time at May 14, 2024 06:06 PM (4780s)

103 NJ: the armpit of America.

(With apologies to CBD, et al)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:06 PM (84PaW)

104 84 Leaflet and inform by radio, all over Gaza.

The Pulverization Will Continue Until Gazans Vote Hamas OUT of Power.

======================

You make the mistake of thinking any of this is rational.

Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 06:06 PM (JQiMb)

105 FU W,W,D

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 05:44
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I'll bite. FU W, W, D???

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 06:06 PM (ju2Fy)

106 The IDF dropped leaflets over Jabalya in northern Gaza, warning civilians to evacuate and warning Hamas leadership, "We will return like a roaring flood until the clear victory


ISWYDT Isreal
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:04 PM

Operation "Taste the Rainbow".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (Wnv9h)

107 The IDF knows how many it has killed. Missing from my last post.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (t/2Uw)

108 What are you going to do, ban him without telling ace?

Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (JQiMb)

109 Uh, what? Why haven't we been giving Israel this information freely already? Whose side are we on?

---------------

To ask is to have answered, Mr. Strom.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (8KGHg)

110 84 Leaflet and inform by radio, all over Gaza.

The Pulverization Will Continue Until Gazans Vote Hamas OUT of Power.

And then proceed, block by block, to grind the concrete buildings into sand, and send all the steel beams and rebar back into Israel, to be smelted down and re cast or forged as Israel sees fit.

Block by Block by Every City Block. Leave nothing behind, but sand.

Might not change a damn thing, but then, WHY leave them any damn thing that could be of *any* use, whatsoever?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2024 06:02 PM (e6UQI)

Carpet bomb Gaza.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (84PaW)

111 Israel just needs to rip the bandage off and get it over with and eliminate Hamas. They are always going to be a pariah anyway, might as well be a safe pariah.

Posted by: Blago at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (56T7s)

112 Has the administration started planning how they can import 10,00 terrorists yet?

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 05:50 PM (fwDg9)
________________

Put 'em in Delaware.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 06:08 PM (YqDXo)

113 >>That's a big 'If', Jack.

>>The ladies must love that 'If.'

Well the reports are coming from Ukrainians so ....

Seems the millions that were paid to build defenses of Kharkiv and the defenses were never built.

https://tinyurl.com/4dy349tm

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:08 PM (LkLld)

114 "It's a years-long process, and it will require Israeli buy-in, but the alternative is a never-ending cycle of violence that the Israelis could be left alone to deal with," a second US official said, referencing the danger of waning international support.

Bullshit. Kill everything that twitches inside that battlezone. Done.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2024 06:09 PM (4I/2K)

115 disappeared

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:09 PM (LkLld)

116 sykle of violence !!

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (V13WU)

117 What are you going to do, ban him without telling ace?

Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (JQiMb)

I'll check with you first.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (d9fT1)

118 113 ... Well the reports are coming from Ukrainians so ....

Seems the millions that were paid to build defenses of Kharkiv and the defenses were never built.
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Surprising no one.

Posted by: E.T. at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (cm4d3)

119 Hezbollah has pulled back from the border because they were losing too many fighters. I think they see the writing on the wall.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (t/2Uw)

120 Seems the millions that were paid to build defenses of Kharkiv and the defenses were never built.

https://tinyurl.com/4dy349tm
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:08 PM (LkLld)

They built my defenses. My financial defenses, that is.

Posted by: Z-Man at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (0eaVi)

121 Biden the Potato is not making decisions and is not in charge of our Foreign Policy.

Obama and his minions are putting Israel and America in its place as the biggest “oppressors” in the world.

It’s disgusting and I hope Israel kills every last terrorist is Rafah.

Posted by: Czech Chick at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM (I6NNh)

122 86 They paved Gaza and put up a parking lot

My city was gone...

Posted by: Chrissie Hynde at May 14, 2024 06:11 PM (2jsTD)

123 ...You make the mistake of thinking any of this is rational. Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 06:06 PM (JQiMb)


No, actually, I didn't.

Neither did the USAAF when they dropped leaflets in advance on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Of course, they didn't mention "Atom Bomb", but they sure as hell told 'em to skedaddle, pronto! (they didn't skedaddle at all)

Certain "gestures" are a nod to the history books, and the critcs. Nothing more.

And. The Pulverization WILL CONTINUE.... I think you skipped past that part.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2024 06:11 PM (e6UQI)

124 barry Tigay @TigayBarry ?

Oh yeah, he ghey alright

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 14, 2024 06:11 PM (NtVYv)

125
Hamas is not being resupplied because there is no way to get them to them.

I saw that Israel blew up an airport runway in Gaza the past couple of days. That's a start.

Now if they could get the rest of the world to stop sending money to Gaza so the men had to get an actual J O B and stop spending their days building rockets, digging tunnels, and waging Jihad.

Too many people on this planet are willfully stupid.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 06:11 PM (RKVpM)

126 That first quote came from Ambassador Lew. He wasn't quite as direct as Get outta Gaza Blinken. Both of them are pieces of shit.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2024 06:12 PM (IjgGS)

127 Oschisms

FYI

People are banned all the time without telling ace.

ace delegates banning to the Cob's like CBD. So play nice.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:12 PM (u82oZ)

128 We went to Afghanistan after 9-11 with the objective of destroying the Taliban, who helped support, plan and organize that attack. After having accomplished that mission, trwice, Democrats and The DoS, actively conspired to shield Taliban elements in Pakistan and elsewhere, put up ROE's that demonstrably got our troops killed, kept us from completely wiping them out and eventually armed them while turning the country over to them. Now, those same elements are actively destroying our country, undermining the rule of law, allowing criminals to roam with impunity, are flooding the country with illegal immigrants, destroying our economy, weaponizing the government against their political opposition and undermine the electoral process to stay in power.

Forgive me, but why should I, the men who helped fight these wars for twenty plus years, and the families of my friends planted on those conflicts give a shit about what Israel or this administration does. It seems to me we should be focusing on our issues, and that's a big part of the problem.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:12 PM (/i32d)

129 What do you expect from a decrepit pervert who showered with his daughter as she entered puberty?

Eww, brother, eww.

https://youtu.be/wLg04uu2j2o?
si=2xAIKSHuiYkfRAWT

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2024 06:13 PM (7jAhP)

130
btw, that "eww, brother, eww" meme is so good. So good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 14, 2024 06:13 PM (7jAhP)

131 Biden's regime mouths words about Israel to appease his younger voting base, but in actions his regime has sent warships, armaments, military aid packages, denounced the ICC, and blocked UN resolutions. ...

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at May 14, 2024 06:01 PM (Y+9UH)
===

Yes, you're right the U.S. government does Israel's bidding, in fact is under Israeli control.

Like when those armaments are "delayed" or the vote is to "abstain" in the UN.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (RIvkX)

132 Putin at least loves his country. He has watched NATO expand east for a long time.

meh, nothing this moron can do about any of it.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (Z8Yh2)

133
There's another possibility regarding the Biden regime's offer to give location data to Israel in return for a 'ceasefire:' it's a lie, and the US has no
additional information on this. A lie possibly calculated only for public opinion, not to motivate the Israelis.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (xPNeT)

134 OT:

We know this is Obama's 3rd term. Or at least ValJar, Susan Rice, etc

And I think netter than seeing Cyenk the Turk explode and that ABC news chick break down crying will be all the tell all books after the election ripping to shreds Joe & Jill & Kamala.

Nobody is falling on their sword.

It's going to get brutal and fun at the same time

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (JkCto)

135 The two-state solution -- Gaza and Michigan.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (ZdexC)

136 Remember when the Left supposedly thought we shouldn't be the "world police"?

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (lX8VI)

137 @sentdefender
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Ukrenergo, the Main Power Transmission Company in Ukraine has announced today the Introduction of “Controlled-Emergency Blackouts” in all Regions of the Country, due to the recent Targeting of Power Infrastructure by Russian Airstrike combined with an ongoing Cold Snap.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:15 PM (LkLld)

138 This is the kind of crap foreign policy that led us to losing every war since WWII.

Trump realized the true issue: the only card that Iran/Hamas has to pay is terrorism. We can get oil from the US or the rest of the Arab states.

So defeat them, and the issue dries up. Peace in the ME.

You're welcome.

Posted by: PJ at May 14, 2024 06:15 PM (G1dq6)

139 Forgive me, but why should I, the men who helped fight these wars for twenty plus years, and the families of my friends planted on those conflicts give a shit about what Israel or this administration does. It seems to me we should be focusing on our issues, and that's a big part of the problem.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:12 PM (/i32d)

We should support Israel because they are on the front lines of the war against Islam.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:15 PM (d9fT1)

140 Gaza is the world's welfare state and isn't going to change anytime soon

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 06:15 PM (fwDg9)

141 What are you going to do, ban him without telling ace?
Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2024 06:07 PM (JQiMb)

LOL

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (lX8VI)

142 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

From NYP:
https://tinyurl.com/nohumpolymp

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (Y6IkP)

143
Some reports suggest Vlad was stretching things out on his side because bankrolling the Ukes is bankrupting the US.

We were bankrupt long before the Ukrainian thing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (63Dwl)

144 68 The number of people who think that Gazans want peace would be funny if it weren't so stupid. Americans know nothing about this. Nothing. They just have some emotional semi-thought that there should be peace, and then work backwards from that to argue for it. They don't even consider the possibility (read: FACT) that they might not want peace.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2024 05:59 PM (0FoWg)


I'm confident that Our Betters' concept of a Palestinian state, as part of the Holy Two-State Solution, means Gaza will have an airport capable of handling fully-fueled 747s (with Tel Aviv less than ten flying minutes away) and a seaport that cannot be blockaded by Israel (or else). The overall State of Palestine (Gaza plus part of the West Bank?) will have the right to carry no-inspection-allowed diplomatic 'pouches' into every nation that formally recognizes the State of Palestine, the right to get unlimited loans from the World Bank, and many more terrorist-enabling rights and capabilities.

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (5fDan)

145 Been meaning to ask since MSM has been going on about Reagan withholding arms from Israel in defense of FJB doing it.

How accurate was the 2023 movie "Golda" with Helen Mirren as Golda and Liev Schreiber as Kissinger depicting events from the Yom Kippur war in 1973?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (ju2Fy)

146 Seems the millions that were paid to build defenses of Kharkiv and the defenses were never built.

https://tinyurl.com/4dy349tm
Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:08 PM (LkLld)

Huh. Almost like it were getting siphoned off into a vast web of leftist causes/corruption...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (CmpAx)

147 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

From NYP:
https://tinyurl.com/nohumpolymp
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (Y6IkP)

A Trigglypuff in every dorm!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (0eaVi)

148 CharlieBrown'sDildo

Here! Here!

Also because the world benefits from Israeli advances in medicine, science, and agriculture.

Gaza gives nothing but destruction.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (u82oZ)

149 Remember when the Left supposedly thought we shouldn't be the "world police"?

Yes. Back when it was convenient.

Posted by: The Left at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (D7mYu)

150 Forgive me, but why should I, the men who helped fight these wars for twenty plus years, and the families of my friends planted on those conflicts give a shit about what Israel or this administration does. It seems to me we should be focusing on our issues, and that's a big part of the problem.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:12 PM (/i32d)

I can’t understand why Whiny, Toothless America has such a special appeal to so many here. Other than people’s abject refusal to learn nothing from history.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (84PaW)

151 >>We should support Israel because they are on the front lines of the war against Islam.

I never believed the line that we must support Ukraine or Putin will invade the west. I absolutely believe Islamist will come for us if they take down Israel mostly because they already have and they have said they will do it again.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (LkLld)

152 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

From NYP:
https://tinyurl.com/nohumpolymp
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (Y6IkP)

These efforts will fail. The urge to spawn is too powerful.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (4I/2K)

153 banana Dream

Fit athletes will find a way. It might be kinky, but beds will not be needed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (u82oZ)

154 Joe needs to start another war so everyone will forget about the war in Gaza. Worked with Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 05:53 PM (LkLld)

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The Duchy of Grand Fenwick oligarchs are tanned, rested, ready, and in need of grift!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (03n6W)

155 Other than people’s abject refusal to learn nothing from history.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (84PaW)

That is, the abject refusal to learn ANYTHING from history.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (84PaW)

156 How accurate was the 2023 movie "Golda" with Helen Mirren as Golda and Liev Schreiber as Kissinger depicting events from the Yom Kippur war in 1973?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (ju2Fy)

Supposedly Kissinger said, "Let Israel bleed" before resupplying them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (d9fT1)

157 Heh.

The Olympic Junior Anti-Sex League.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (+yhUM)

158 The fucking sandrats don't want a two state solution and have said so many times over.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (IjgGS)

159 And Ukraine is about to fall to Russia.

Wasting $150 billion.

But millions of wine moms got to feel good about themselves and put Ukraine flags on their social media and isn't that what's most important?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (g9W3m)

160 > They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

Without following the link, are they putting wooden dividers down the middle of the bed like the Amish? Because that would be hilarious.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (Odg76)

161 ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond

Gotta be careful. The last time, Grand Fenwick won.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (u82oZ)

162 Maybe Biden will be more flexible after the election (like Obama said he was with Russia). But more flexible which way?

The Regime wants everyone fighting each other (including domestically) while they pilfer the state and solidify power.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (Cus5s)

163 Huh. Almost like it were getting siphoned off into a vast web of leftist causes/corruption...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM (CmpAx)

You dare imply such slander

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:20 PM (lX8VI)

164 Without following the link, are they putting wooden dividers down the middle of the bed like the Amish? Because that would be hilarious.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (Odg76)

There's always wood in the Olympic Village.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2024 06:20 PM (0eaVi)

165 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

---------------

They've obviously never experienced the thrill of making love in a pole vault pit.

Speaking for a friend ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:20 PM (6mcoq)

166 I'll check with you first.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:10 PM


They both have the whiff of 9mm Kurz users.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (a3Q+t)

167 Unless the new casualty figures are based on individually seeing and counting them, they are still estimates.

Thus they all need rounding off.

Apparently the officials never heard of "sig figs".

Posted by: noam sayen at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (W8Kxm)

168 illiniwek

The true wealth of America is America's exceptional citizens.

Power over us will not help them. At all.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (u82oZ)

169 Fuck Gaza, fuck the "Palestinians."

Bomb it until the rubble bounces then bomb it some more.

I don't care about these fucking savages. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Don't want your women and children blown to smithereens? Maybe don't do October 7th, you fucking retards.

Additionally, if you're at all surprised that the US is on the wrong side, you shouldn't be. Joe Biden has been stupid for nearly 80 years. Now he's stupid and senile and the radical leftists actually running this administration will be lucky if they don't get us all killed.

Posted by: ballistic at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (oqH4h)

170 In exchange for what?

@Breaking911
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BREAKING: Biden admin. notifies Congress it will move forward with $1B in new weapons deal for Israel - WSJ

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (IG4Id)

171 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:
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Equipped with Pelosi photo comforters

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (lX8VI)

172 And it's up against the wall
randy Olympian!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (4I/2K)

173 Hamas does not want a two state solution. Hezbollah does not want a two state solution. Both want a single state with all the Jews dead. The Marxist children in the Biden administration simply cannot or will not understand this

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (ZpWmh)

174 159 And Ukraine is about to fall to Russia.

Wasting $150 billion.

But millions of wine moms got to feel good about themselves and put Ukraine flags on their social media and isn't that what's most important?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (g9W3m)

I seem to remember a lot more aid packages.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (CmpAx)

175 132 Putin at least loves his country. He has watched NATO expand east for a long time.

meh, nothing this moron can do about any of it.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (Z8Yh2)

For a long time? Not since the last century, so that’s crap.

And for his trouble, he drove two neutral countries - Finland and Sweden - straight into NATO.

There are just way, way too many people who ache for the same whiny isolationism that led to Pearl. Proof that people on all sides make efforts to not learn from history,

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (84PaW)

176 "They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes"

Greta Thunderborg bedsheets?


Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (qUkBO)

177 After 9-11, was when I began hearing about Islamophobia. A few years ago I saw an article that said Muslims had coined the word islamaphobia to prevent any possible backlash . It's part of the control mechanism to control us.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (0uQp2)

178 BREAKING: Biden admin. notifies Congress it will move forward with $1B in new weapons deal for Israel - WSJ
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (IG4Id)

And 2 billion for Gaza.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (lX8VI)

179 "We should support Israel because they are on the front lines of the war against Islam.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:15 PM (d9fT1)"

We aren't fighting a war against "Islam". We are fighting a war against terrorists, many of whom happen to be followers of Islam. I've met countless good people over the years who were Muslim and wanted no part of this garbage. While We can save the theological arguments for another day, as I am not a believer in their religions foundational tenets, this is a mistake many people make. We are also more importantly in a fight for the basic foundational, constitutional freedoms in our country and most of those people aren't adherents of Islam. They are adherents of the Democrat Cult.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (/i32d)

180 They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

Without following the link, are they putting wooden dividers down the middle of the bed like the Amish? Because that would be hilarious.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 06:19 PM (Odg76)
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Something tells me the balance beam gymnasts would find that extra kinky...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (BpYfr)

181 The "two-state" solution is a diplomatic lie meant to lull the soft-headed into complacency.

It has the simplicity of "War is not healthy for children and other living things" and the banality of "Give peace a chance" all in one.

If you want a state for these people, they have one, it is called Jordan. 70% of the population is from the West Bank. You want to replace the idiot king with your own fascist dictator, well they will be in good company in your animalistic polity.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (RIvkX)

182 Other than people’s abject refusal to learn nothing from history.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM


Eventus stultorum magister

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (a3Q+t)

183 >>> They are installing anti-sex beds at the olympics to styme randy athletes:

From NYP:
https://tinyurl.com/nohumpolymp
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:16 PM (Y6IkP)

These efforts will fail. The urge to spawn is too powerful.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 14, 2024 06:18 PM (4I/2K)


There are a wide variety of automobile front or back seats that are less comfortable than that bed.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (Y6IkP)

184 You dare imply such slander
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:20 PM (lX8VI)

Oh, I do.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (CmpAx)

185 "The Marxist children in the Biden administration simply cannot or will not understand this"

Actually, they do understand this, and agree with it.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (qUkBO)

186 Additionally, if you're at all surprised that the US is on the wrong side, you shouldn't be. Joe Biden has been stupid for nearly 80 years. Now he's stupid and senile and the radical leftists actually running this administration will be lucky if they don't get us all killed.

Posted by: ballistic at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (oqH4h)

Who was it who said Biden was on the wrong side of foreign policy for his entire Senate life?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (84PaW)

187
You don't like Jews, fine... But read 'Christianity in the Middle East' on Wiki then get back to me.

I doubt you will.

The Islamists will kill you dead if you don't buy into their terror pact. Kill, rape, burn alive, any method of horrific ways to torture human beings into submission. Somehow Mo taught inferior humans they are superior. That's not good for humanity.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (RKVpM)

188 No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (J8LnB)

189 If you want a state for these people, they have one, it is called Jordan. 70% of the population is from the West Bank. You want to replace the idiot king with your own fascist dictator, well they will be in good company in your animalistic polity.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (RIvkX)

Yeah, no.

Posted by: Zombie King Hussein at May 14, 2024 06:25 PM (84PaW)

190 Biden's regime mouths words about Israel to appease his younger voting base
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Biden should just accept it: he's toast. He's made a total mess of everything he's been involved with, and validated Obama's assessment that he can screw up anything.

Because God knows, we've seen that over the last 3.5 years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 06:25 PM (YqDXo)

191 BREAKING: Biden admin. notifies Congress it will move forward with $1B in new weapons deal for Israel - WSJ
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (IG4Id)

And 2 billion for Gaza.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (lX8VI)

And 2 hardboiled eggs.

Posted by: Chico Marx at May 14, 2024 06:25 PM (4I/2K)

192 Humphreyrobot

A Hillary or Nancy Polecat sexbot in every bed?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:25 PM (u82oZ)

193 We aren't fighting a war against "Islam". We are fighting a war against terrorists, many of whom happen to be followers of Islam.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (/i32d)


All evidence to the contrary. You are being willfully ignorant of the expansionism baked into the cake of Islam.

Maybe not all Muslims are enthusiastic supporters of the death cult, but they aren't doing anything about it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (d9fT1)

194 >>There are just way, way too many people who ache for the same whiny isolationism that led to Pearl. Proof that people on all sides make efforts to not learn from history,


Do you know what not learning from history looks like? Lying to the world and moving your alliance closer to your opponent after decades of promising you wouldn't.

It has nothing to do with isolationism. That's dumb. It has to do with not provoking your opponent when he has told you clearly that if you keep breaking your word and making aggressive moves toward his country he will attack.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (LkLld)

195 No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (J8LnB)

First you get married...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (d9fT1)

196 2 state solution isn't a solution when one of the states has vowed to destroy the other state


ALSO: the US leveraging valuable intel in order to get concessions from Israel is beyond despicable

finally: Let Bibi Be Bibi and destroy Hamas once and for all, and let the word 'palestine' disappear from the minds of men for all time

Posted by: Don Black at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (/7KEl)

197 "188 No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?"

They put my wife in it.

Posted by: Ted from Danvers at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (qUkBO)

198 Israel is a very , very good investment. Since we came out of isolation after WWI, we learned to how spread influence with money and weapons to further our own goals. Which are really market hegemony and political influence. For market hegemony. We've done very well, but there are pockets of ugly around the world. And we cannot deal with each one ourselves. We are not colonizers. It is antithetical to who we are. So we enlist friends for a good cause. Israel is one of them. Shared values help.

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2024 06:27 PM (V13WU)

199 Been meaning to ask since MSM has been going on about Reagan withholding arms from Israel in defense of FJB doing it.

How accurate was the 2023 movie "Golda" with Helen Mirren as Golda and Liev Schreiber as Kissinger depicting events from the Yom Kippur war in 1973?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 06:17 PM


As a movie it is close to events as they happened.


The huge problem that we have is comparing what Reagan did versus what joe biden is doing. Reagan withheld arms because Israel was the aggressor and launched attacks on Lebanon in that war. That was totally within his rights under the defense agreement we signed with Israel in 1952. We agreed to help them defend their country, not to give them arms to attack their neighbors even though they were constantly launching terrorist attacks from Lebanon.


What joe biden is doing is the opposite. He is withholding arms after Israel was attacked, completely different than what Reagan did.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 14, 2024 06:27 PM (QNSds)

200 No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM


Just wait 6 months.

Posted by: Legendary inhabitants of Lesbos at May 14, 2024 06:27 PM (a3Q+t)

201 For myself, I'm inclined to bomb Gaza until the rubble bounces, and then machine gun everything that remains alive.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at May 14, 2024 06:27 PM (X7tFJ)

202 For the Junta the venn diagram for hamas and gazans is just a circle.

But Kamala thought all germans were nazis and all southerners were klan.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 14, 2024 06:27 PM (cOq4q)

203 Supposedly Kissinger said, "Let Israel bleed" before resupplying them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:18
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So Blinken is taking a page out of Henry's book?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM (ju2Fy)

204 Some reports suggest Vlad was stretching things out on his side because bankrolling the Ukes is bankrupting the US.
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Gee is there anyone else who wants to see the US "bankrupted" I wonder?

When the true story of Democrats/Uniparty and Putin comes out, some people shall be very surprised indeed.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM (lX8VI)

205 >>> No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (J8LnB)


It's small, made out of cardboard and fishing line, and is supposed to collapse at weights close to 2 athletes.

As a structures guy, I'm intrigued and I'd love to see how they came up with the design criteria. Because you can't just consider the static load. Any dynamics, acceleration, shock, vibratory loads would easily exceed the static load.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM (Y6IkP)

206 Posted by: Zombie King Hussein at May 14, 2024 06:25 PM (84PaW)
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Not you, your pissant son and his dumb wife.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

207 BREAKING: Biden admin. notifies Congress it will move forward with $1B in new weapons deal for Israel - WSJ
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2024 06:21 PM (IG4Id)

And 2 billion for Gaza.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (lX8VI)

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And $4 billion for Iran.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (6mcoq)

208 Hey hot mama, howzabout a ride on my pommel horse? My uneven parallel bars routine will take you all the way there and back!

Posted by: Count de Olympian Gymnast at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (4I/2K)

209 Anyone who thinks Olympic athletes aren't going to find a way to be jumping the crap out of each other regardless of any "adult" tampering is nuts.

These kids are ready to PARTY.

Hopefully the Israeli athletes are well protected. Visions of Munich keep giving me nightmares.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (MciYk)

210 "And Ukraine is about to fall to Russia. Wasting $150 billion."

And it is because Biden's goons demanded the war, but pushing "Ukraine Must Join NATO" crap. So Ukraine cities laid waste, their men either dead or expatriated, and Russia ... maybe stronger, not weaker, idk.

Certainly the BRICKS are stronger, and USD still holding on for now, but BigGov Goons just keep printing and borrowing trillions .. like there is no tomorrow.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (Cus5s)

211 I may have never agreed with CBD as much as I do on this. Hmm.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (lX8VI)

212 It has nothing to do with isolationism. That's dumb. It has to do with not provoking your opponent when he has told you clearly that if you keep breaking your word and making aggressive moves toward his country he will attack.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (LkLld)

The way Poland provoked Stalin and Hitler I am sure.

Pray tell, what provocation was there except what was in Putin’s mind? Last I checked, besides NATO taking in former Warsaw Pact countries - BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO JOIN - what provocation was there?

Good God, you would have been running from West Berlin in 1948. Some of you are no better than the whiners from the 1980s who turned out to be dead wrong.

Posted by: Catch Thorty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (84PaW)

213 Because you can't just consider the static load. Any dynamics, acceleration, shock, vibratory loads would easily exceed the static load.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM


We've solved that problem. It's called "soaking".

Posted by: BYU student bodies at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (a3Q+t)

214 There's another possibility regarding the Biden regime's offer to give location data to Israel in return for a 'ceasefire:' it's a lie, and the US has no
additional information on this. A lie possibly calculated only for public opinion, not to motivate the Israelis.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 14, 2024 06:14 PM (xPNeT)


I thought of that, but I was trying to square the "we are honorable merchants" as opposed to "we will sell you out in a heartbeat for the right price" and I kept coming up with "these two items are not in the same column"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (D7oie)

215 "It's small, made out of cardboard and fishing line, and is supposed to collapse at weights close to 2 athletes."

It's too bad humans haven't figured out how to have sex standing up, on tables, or on the floor.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (qUkBO)

216 your pissant son and his dumb wife.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

Abdullah really is a lightweight.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (d9fT1)

217 >>NJ: the armpit of America.

Call me!

Posted by: Lume at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (HQ9Sl)

218 It's small, made out of cardboard and fishing line, and is supposed to collapse at weights close to 2 athletes.

As a structures guy, I'm intrigued and I'd love to see how they came up with the design criteria. Because you can't just consider the static load. Any dynamics, acceleration, shock, vibratory loads would easily exceed the static load.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM (Y6IkP)

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350 lb weightlifter with one or two 60 lb gymnasts?

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (6mcoq)

219 @7

>>How the hell did we get to the point that the muslin population in a battleground state gets to decide our foreign policy?


Invade the world/Invite The World has been official us policy since the 50's.

So, that's how that happens.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (XV/Pl)

220 The only two-state solution I am willing to consider for Palestinians is the State of Rest.

They can either be peaceful or at permanent rest.

As noted above, what evidence is there that Palestinians actually want peace?
A culture that has no fear of suicide attacks doesn't fear the terrorist who rule them, they support them-- That's why they do not publicly oppose Hamas.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (g9W3m)

221 I 100% believe we have the intel and are withholding it.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (lX8VI)

222 Certainly the BRICKS are stronger, and USD still holding on for now, but BigGov Goons just keep printing and borrowing trillions .. like there is no tomorrow.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 14, 2024 06:29 PM (Cus5s)

The BRICS (what’s the K for, Kenya?) are stronger? How? The RSA is going down the toilet. Brazil has a Socialist again. India is improving as they always have been, but Russia is STILL a one trick pony and the PRC is in a world of hurt more than they let on.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:32 PM (84PaW)

223 >>> No sex bed. It must be magic.
How does it work?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 06:24 PM (J8LnB)


It's small, made out of cardboard and fishing line, and is supposed to collapse at weights close to 2 athletes.

As a structures guy, I'm intrigued and I'd love to see how they came up with the design criteria. Because you can't just consider the static load. Any dynamics, acceleration, shock, vibratory loads would easily exceed the static load.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:28 PM (Y6IkP)

I weigh as much as 3.25 girl gymnasts. This ain't gonna work nohow, noway.

Posted by: Count de Olympian Weightlifter at May 14, 2024 06:32 PM (4I/2K)

224 Invade the world/Invite The World has been official us policy since the 50's.
_________________

I blame Ted "The Liar of the Senate" Kennedy for his poxy 1965 immigration bill that favored shitty Third World countries over European ones.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 06:33 PM (YqDXo)

225 And the more democrats HATE on Putin, well, I'm not a fangirl yet but I'm getting close.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2024 06:33 PM (MciYk)

226 193 We aren't fighting a war against "Islam". We are fighting a war against terrorists, many of whom happen to be followers of Islam.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:23 PM (/i32d)
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I wonder if those immigrants from north africa realize why they were allowed to immigrate so easily to western europe. They will be surprised when they find out what the elites have in store for them once/ if they end up replacing us. ....

Posted by: E.T. at May 14, 2024 06:34 PM (cm4d3)

227
I 100% believe we have the intel and are withholding it.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM


I 100% believe the USA has the version .08 beta version of Israeli 2.0 intel.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 06:34 PM (RKVpM)

228 Democrats never met a shitty America hating dictator they didn't like. Don't forget that.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:34 PM (lX8VI)

229 @212

>>Good God, you would have been running from West Berlin in 1948. Some of you are no better than the whiners from the 1980s who turned out to be dead wrong.

Russia can barely project power beyond it's own borders, the idea that The Russian Bear is going to storm across Europe if it's not checked in Ukraine is laughable.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 06:35 PM (XV/Pl)

230 >Pray tell, what provocation was there except what was in Putin’s mind? Last I checked, besides NATO taking in former Warsaw Pact countries - BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO JOIN - what provocation was there?

Maybe for casting insults you should actually do a bit of reading on the history of NATO and our promise not to expand it eastward. A promise we have repeatedly broken since NATO was first founded.

Pay particular attention to the 2008 NATO Summit in Bucharest where Putin warned that any move to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO would cross his redline. He proved his point by invading Georgia. This was after we helped run a color revolutiojn there, the Rose Revolluition, and installing our puppet.

Then we decided it would be a great idea to run a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 and take down an elected president who wanted to make a trade deal with Russia rather than the west. Putin only took Crimea then and of course Obama didn't do shit.

Trump didn't do anything with Ukraine other than try to get to the bottom of the CIA corruption and they impeached him. Then Biden came along and started saying he was going to bring Ukraine into NATO and Putin invaded.

That's what happened

Posted by: JackStraw at May 14, 2024 06:36 PM (LkLld)

231 >>> 350 lb weightlifter with one or two 60 lb gymnasts?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 14, 2024 06:31 PM (6mcoq)


Yeah it's hilarious. I'm LOLing about how you'd even design it, and there's no way it could work as design.

I'm been involved in shear pin design for a long time and if they don't break then structure can fail spraying fuel all over the place. If they break too early (and often) then you get angry customers. So an unbelievable amount of work goes into making something fail just at the right time.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2024 06:36 PM (Y6IkP)

232
350 lb weightlifter with one or two 60 lb gymnasts?
Posted by: ShainS


Hey, I saw them on the Ed Sullivan show!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 06:36 PM (63Dwl)

233 8 Next thing you know Biden will be pushing homosexuals off buildings.
Posted by: Redenzo at May 14, 2024 05:46 PM (h2mlA)


He's too busy pushing in his daughter's stool . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (x0n13)

234 Sundowner says whatever feels good today

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (fwDg9)

235
ALSO: the US leveraging valuable intel in order to get concessions from Israel is beyond despicable


Posted by: Don Black at May 14, 2024 06:26 PM (/7KEl)


Do we actually have the intel capability Biden says he is willing to share with Israel if they call a no-end ceasefire in Gaza? Or is it BS?

Bibi: "Mr. President, we have been in the cease-fire for a month now, and 90 percent of IDF personnel and equipment has been withdrawn from Gaza as we promised. Now it is your turn to give us your intel of the underground locations of Hamas leaders, HQs, and weapons caches."

POTATUS: "Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!"

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (5fDan)

236 So basically Olympic sumo wrestlers and power lifters gotta sleep on the floor.

That sounds fine.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (+yhUM)

237 The US doesn't have any intel. If that were the case DoD would give up Sinwar and end the war tomorrow.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (IjgGS)

238 You know what would be awesome?

If a US politician answers, "if their Allah wants them to have peace, he will bring it to them. So far, the only peace their Allah gives them is death.
Our duty is to support life and those who protect life.
If the Palestinians want life, they will join us in demanding Hamas surrender.
Or they can continue to seek the peace their Allah offers."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (g9W3m)

239 174 159 And Ukraine is about to fall to Russia.Wasting $150 billion.Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2024 06:22 PM (CmpAx)

Wasting?

As long as there's a congressman with a new summer home, it's not a waste.

As long as there's a Ukrainian defense official with a 2nd world bolt hole, it's not a waste.

As long as there's a Northrup/Grumman/Lockheed/Boeing contracter with a nicer retirement package and underage side piece from Kiev, it's not a waste.

Sometimes I wonder if any of you are patriots at all...

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 06:38 PM (j4U/Z)

240 @224

>>I blame Ted "The Liar of the Senate" Kennedy for his poxy 1965 immigration bill that favored shitty Third World countries over European ones.

He also had a hand in writing all of our refugee and asylum laws, pretty much every place we invade or muck about in results in hundreds of thousands of refugees being shipped to America.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 06:38 PM (XV/Pl)

241 " I've met countless good people over the years who were Muslim and wanted no part of this garbage"

imo Islam is like Antifa. They have their more peaceful masses that the thugs hide amongst. But in the end, "Peaceful Islam" gives aid and comfort to the aggressive enemy, who hides in their US Mogadishu neighborhoods.

The strategies are in their Koran, and whatever their other books are.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 14, 2024 06:38 PM (Cus5s)

242 Good God, you would have been running from West Berlin in 1948. Some of you are no better than the whiners from the 1980s who turned out to be dead wrong.
Posted by: Catch Thorty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 06:30 PM (84PaW)


I am confused, are you calling him a Nazi collaborator, or someone opposed to Conrad Adenauer's reforms?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2024 06:38 PM (D7oie)

243 350 lb weightlifter with one or two 60 lb gymnasts?
Posted by: ShainS

I don't think we have male gymnasts that tiny.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:39 PM (u82oZ)

244 Lets leave Hamas intact, but weakened, then give Iran billions more, so they can export weapons through the newly US built Gaza pier.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 14, 2024 06:39 PM (P9xGM)

245 I read earlier that >1000 wounded Hamas fighters are in Turkish hospitals. How did they get there? Israel you are slipping if they slipped past. Also IDF, aim better, you only wounded them this time.

Posted by: Ciampino - booby-trapped korans? at May 14, 2024 06:39 PM (qfLjt)

246 This has the stench of the Dog Eater all over it.
The aforesaid canine consumer remains the hero of today's Demonrat Party.

Posted by: Ex GOP at May 14, 2024 06:39 PM (GpUII)

247 234 Sundowner says whatever feels good today
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 06:37 PM (fwDg9)


And vice versa. Especially if they're wearing training bras.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2024 06:40 PM (x0n13)

248 Maybe for casting insults you should actually do a bit of reading on the history of NATO and our promise not to expand it eastward. A promise we have repeatedly broken since NATO was first founded.
________________

We lied.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 06:40 PM (YqDXo)

249 244 Lets leave Hamas intact, but weakened, then give Iran billions more, so they can export weapons through the newly US built Gaza pier.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 14, 2024 06:39 PM (P9xGM)


The same pier from which a million Gazans will land at Ellis Island.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2024 06:40 PM (x0n13)

250 This means that, currently, Biden is withholding information about terrorist bases and boltholes from an ally.

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This is the most important factor in the whole situation. They could help an ally but won't. Who would want to be an ally after this? These people are trashing everything the US stood for.

Second, Biden has no idea what is going on, he just mouths what they tell him. The They are Obama's people who must be all uprooted from any public office after the election.

Posted by: Decaf at May 14, 2024 06:41 PM (unUNN)

251 Russia hasn't had the ability to widely project power into multiple battle spaces for some time. But that's not the point. Their tactics have mostly revolved around limited power projection, usually into contiguous regions, or into places like Syria. I don't believe it's Russia per se, but Putin in particular who has delusions of grandeur and the bringing back the salad days of Russia. That's why he kept invading countries and regions in Eastern Europe after he loaded them up with Russian citizens and used that as a pretext. You need to draw a line with that type of behavior, and he wasn't doing it because NATO kept expanding. But that gave him more then he needed to execute this invasions.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2024 06:42 PM (/i32d)

252 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2024 06:40 PM (x0n13)

Hope you are doing ok, friend.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 06:42 PM (lX8VI)

253 Unbelievably -- or Perfectly Believably, Honestly -- Biden Is Attempting to Pressure Israel to Allow Hamas to Survive, So They Can Be "Partners In Peace (TM)" Together
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Maybe the drugs in the White House weren't Hunter's after all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2024 06:42 PM (YqDXo)

254 Nood Wick.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 14, 2024 06:42 PM (OYxA4)

255 228 Democrats never met a shitty America hating dictator they didn't like. Don't forget that.

Tell me about it, LOL

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at May 14, 2024 06:42 PM (GpUII)

256 There really are no Great Powers anymore, are there?

Just Great Big Thorns In Everyone Else's Asses.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 06:43 PM (+yhUM)

257
a devout muslim stabs you in the back
a moderate muslim just supplies the knife

Posted by: Don Black at May 14, 2024 06:43 PM (/7KEl)

258
Good God, you would have been running from West Berlin in 1948. Some of you are no better than the whiners from the 1980s who turned out to be dead wrong.
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You should add that even Reagan would have not hesitated to fully fund the Ukraine.

That's how you prove your the most muy conservative.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 06:44 PM (g9W3m)

259 I am 99.9% convinced soaking was made up by angry neckbeards on Reddit's ex-Mormon sub.

Now it's like the catbox in the restroom claim that gets passed around on the right. Everyone knows someone who swears it happened at a school near them.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 06:46 PM (Odg76)

260 @251

>>That's why he kept invading countries and regions in Eastern Europe after he loaded them up with Russian citizens and used that as a pretext.

Let's not get it twisted, Russia is "invading" former Russian federated Republics to reconstitute what it thinks are it's borders.

In the immortal words of Sam Gerard, I. Don't. Care.

Russia is not going to invade Poland or and any of the Nordic countries.

The rationale for NATO expired on November 9th, 1989.

Russia has a GDP less than NYS, they have been a GeoPolitical McGuffin for decades.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 06:46 PM (XV/Pl)

261 Push all the Hamas scum into the sea, Israel.
DON'T STOP.
Oh and please feel free to ignore our illegitimate "president" and his regime's representative. They don't speak for the majority sentiment and will of the United States people.

Posted by: Tracy at May 14, 2024 06:47 PM (QMvT1)

262 The same pier from which a million Gazans will land at Ellis Island.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2024 06:40 PM (x0n13)

Dude, it's straight from Kennedy to Manhattan these days, skip immigration, get the money card and room and start the party.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 07:21 PM (j4U/Z)

263 Israelis go to bomb shelters regularly, during the ceasefire phase. How many nights would Americans put up with before obliterating the enemy?
I hope but fear I will walk in an Israeli's shoes soon in America.
10/7 is coming and we stay asleep.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at May 14, 2024 07:58 PM (G1DYU)

264 Remember the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, men. Go get those bastards.

Posted by: Beverly at May 14, 2024 08:46 PM (Epeb0)

265 "POTATUS"

Good one.

Posted by: Ju at May 14, 2024 09:32 PM (aTmM/)

266 "Lions and antelopes: Partners in Vegetarianism"

Posted by: DaveL at May 15, 2024 06:17 AM (KUwsX)

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