CNN: Polls Show Americans Don't Care About the Left's Lawfare Campaign Against Trump

They don't have a Plan B. This is what they've got. This is it. This is the only thing they have in the cupboard.

And it's crapping out.

CNN chief national affairs correspondent Jeff Zeleny reports that swing-state voters are showing disdain and fatigue over the ongoing Trump trial, amidst polling data that shows Trump leading Biden in six key states.

Jeff Zeleny revealed that swing-state voters he interviewed feel "disgusted" and "tired" of the Trump trial, suggesting minimal political fallout against Trump so far.
Recent New York Times/Siena College polling indicates Trump is leading Biden in swing states like Nevada, Georgia, and Arizona, with significant margins.
Voters are more concerned with economic issues rather than the trial, with inflation noted as a critical issue affecting voter sentiment.

In a recent commentary, CNN's Jeff Zeleny highlighted a significant disconnect between the media coverage of Donald Trump's ongoing trial and the concerns of voters in battleground states. According to Zeleny, despite exhaustive media focus, the trial has not resonated as a critical issue among these voters. Instead, economic issues, particularly inflation, are at the forefront of voters' concerns as they assess their choices for the upcoming election.
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The polling also reveals a surprising shift in demographic support, with Trump making gains among Black and Hispanic voters, groups traditionally seen as Democratic strongholds. Biden's lead among these voters has diminished compared to previous elections, further complicating the electoral landscape for Democrats.
Zeleny notes that while the trial garners considerable media attention, the actual impact on voter decision-making may be limited. He suggests that unless the economic concerns are addressed effectively, the trial itself will likely remain a peripheral issue for many voters, overshadowed by more immediate personal and financial impacts.

Video at the link.

I know the public tunes out of the partisan outrage sort of political discourse because we on the right could never get the public very interested in Benghazi. I think the public tends to discount these scandals on the theory that "both sides do it" and both sides exaggerate this stuff.

I think it's similar to when unions and management try to get the public on their side about a labor dispute -- the public says, "I don't care, work it out yourselves, stop trying to involve me."

All the Democrats have offered the public for years and years now is partisan outrage crap -- stuff that Jake Tapper and his fellow hyperpartisans care about intensely, but which everyone else thinks is both a nothingburger and a cheap manipulation by partisan agitators like Tapper.

When the public asks about the economy, Tapper and his fellow Democrats shriek: "But Muh Democracy!"

When the public asks about out-of-control violence and mayhem, Tapper and his fellow Democrats scream, "But Sloppy Daniels!"

When the public asks about the wide-open border and Americans killed by "newcomers," Tapper and his fellow Democrats cry "But his Twitter!!!"

Every time the public asks about a real issue with a tangible impact on their lives, Tapper and his fellow Democrats shovel progressive outrage-bait slop at their faces.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:13 PM

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1 Yo!

Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2024 12:13 PM (ignRF)

2 Nood duties performed

Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2024 12:13 PM (ignRF)

3 that swing-state voters he interviewed feel "disgusted" and "tired" of the Trump trial

Mark me down for "loving it!"

All fifty states this fall...

Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (L3CGb)

4 They don't have a Plan B.

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Yeah, they really do. It's more of a Plan A.

They wish it wasn't Plan A, but...the American people are ungovernable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

6 All they have is the Merchan circus in NY and they are pushing it with all they have LOL

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (FQmDC)

7 But, Biden said all the polls are wrong, so you're lying.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

8 Phew, I misunderstood the title of the post on first reading it. I thought you were saying people don't care that the feral government is going after Trump.

That's very different than saying that they aren't interested in it because it's stupid and gay.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (CsUN+)

9 *burrp*

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (gKWVE)

10 Jeff Zeleny revealed that swing-state voters he interviewed feel "disgusted" and "tired" of the Trump trial, suggesting minimal political fallout against Trump so far.
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You mean that naked political persecution plays to the urban blue base, but doesn't play in Peoria?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:15 PM (d04cU)

11 Hi Ace

What do you think about having all these Rs show up at the trial and sit behind Trump. Not sure if a NY jury will be impressed or turned off.
I do like that they can then come out and comment when Trump is under a gag order.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)

12 The judge in NY is going to sentence Trump to prison. That could not be more clear (Trump committed THIRTY FOUR FELONIES!! after all) so that is plan B.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (i7Q7S)

13 exhaustive media focus

no shit

Posted by: BignJames at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (AwYPR)

14 Nood duties performed
Posted by: Doof

Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (psI1i)

15 10 You mean that naked political persecution plays to the urban blue base, but doesn't play in Peoria?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:15 PM (d04cU)

========

"What the fuck is Peoria?"
-The entire media ecosystem today

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

16 They do have a Plan B. It involves Joe Biden stroking out on the 4th of July weekend.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (wGerL)

17
Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (psI1i)

Just don't ask where he gets the Cheeto dust........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

18 Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (psI1i)

I thought he was more into the grandma panties duties.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (CIS44)

19 CNN chief national affairs correspondent Jeff Zeleny reports that swing-state voters are showing disdain and fatigue over the ongoing Trump trial, amidst polling data that shows Trump leading Biden in six key states.

That's how you know it's time for St Floyd II: Electric Boogaloo. The usual Dem strategy of turning everything up to 11 so that the message is "vote for us and the anger stops! Vote for Trump and we burn the country down!"

It's worked before. I have no doubt it will work again, if the Deep State decides to knife Trump.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (Q0kLU)

20 In a way I kind of want Trump to get convicted because it would make it even funnier when he wins anyway.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (xPl2J)

21 I wonder if screaming for 10 years at the top of their lungs that Trump is the end of the world has maybe caused a little fatigue among normal people who are busy worrying about stupid crap like their bills and food.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (9yFRo)

22 The lawfare campaign against Trump by the left is backfiring big time. I know how most people feel about polls this far out from the election, including myself, but it is important to remember that Trump never led in any swing state poll in 2020.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (QNSds)

23 The polling also reveals a surprising shift in demographic support, with Trump making gains among Black and Hispanic voters, groups traditionally seen as Democratic strongholds.
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Which is traditionally stupid. Blacks tend to vote monolithically (at least on paper - who knows how much fraud there is, but that doesn't change the final assessment), but "Hispanics" do not. Latinos are not a monolith and never have been. The Dems have treated them like one, but that is a bad strategy. The legals have serious problems with the illegals. The Guatemalans have serious problems with the Salvadorans, etc. Latinos are internally diverse and counting on them to act like a monolith is poor plan.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (d04cU)

24 Voters are more concerned with economic issues rather than the trial, with inflation noted as a critical issue affecting voter sentiment.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Never not true.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2024 12:18 PM (gMj+h)

25 "They don't have a Plan B. This is what they've got. This is it. This is the only thing they have in the cupboard.

And it's crapping out."

I prefer not to think about Biden crapping out.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:18 PM (psI1i)

26 CNN chief national affairs correspondent Jeff Zeleny reports that swing-state voters are showing disdain and fatigue over the ongoing Trump trial, amidst polling data that shows Trump leading Biden in six key states.

I'd like to point out that it was Zeleny who asked Obama the infamous "enchants" question. I don't want him to ever live that down.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 14, 2024 12:18 PM (CsUN+)

27 14 Nood duties performed
Posted by: Doof

Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (psI1i)

Pays to advertise ...

Posted by: browndog will not be inspecting the goods at May 14, 2024 12:18 PM (TTAGa)

28
I prefer not to think about Biden crapping out.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:18 PM (psI1i)

It's ok.

His butt's been wiped.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)

29 It's worked before. I have no doubt it will work again, if the Deep State decides to knife Trump.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (Q0kLU)

They are just gonna steal it, Joe will say "see I told you the polls were wrong" And if/when people dint stabd for it they will have the full wait of the givt thrown at them for not accepting the results. Second verse same as the first.

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 14, 2024 12:19 PM (CIS44)

30 Are these the:
1. Pre-Burning times
2. Burning Times
3. Ash Kicking times?

Discuss.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 14, 2024 12:19 PM (lZVy/)

31 In a way I kind of want Trump to get convicted because it would make it even funnier when he wins anyway.

"Would it make a better movie?" is how I'm starting to look at these things. And, yes it would!

Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2024 12:19 PM (L3CGb)

32

Do they forget what happened with Slick Willy and how much worse what he did was?

I mean, good grief these jagoffs.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (et1vG)

33 This lawfare vendetta against Trump isn't just to try to make him radioactive in November. The smart liberals -- and yes, there are a few -- almost certainly recognize this is all backfiring. But they can't help themselves.

Trump is their White Whale, their Precious, their Norma Bates, their psychotic obsession that has turned their brains to quivering jelly. Trump is their entire reason for being. They can't stop obsessing about him. And they will never ever forgive him for existing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

34 Isn't Plan B the pill you take after being stupid? That may be ALL they have.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (9yFRo)

35 Ace, did you hear about the young man who was using dating apps and couldn't get any women to "match" or "like" or whatever the first step is?

After a while he photoshopped in a winning multimillion dollar lottery check into one of his photos.

He immediately became wildly popular with the ladies looking for a guy like him on the dating app.

https://tinyurl.com/yrmkdl99

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (+402B)

36 In a way I kind of want Trump to get convicted because it would make it even funnier when he wins anyway.

He could take the oath of office with a do-rag on his head and his pants around his ass.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (CsUN+)

37 Breaking news: Trump is a fucking goddamn assshole because he is a fucking goddamn asshole.

Posted by: U.S. Media at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (84PaW)

38 33 Trump is their White Whale, their Precious, their Norma Bates, their psychotic obsession that has turned their brains to quivering jelly. Trump is their entire reason for being. They can't stop obsessing about him. And they will never ever forgive him for existing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

=======

I wouldn't mind if they ended up like Ahab.

It might make showering for Trump something of an issue, for sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

39 After a while he photoshopped in a winning multimillion dollar lottery check into one of his photos.

He immediately became wildly popular with the ladies looking for a guy like him on the dating app.

https://tinyurl.com/yrmkdl99
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (+402B)

I mean, it's almost like he figured out you could grab em by the pussy.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

40 Every time the public asks about a real issue with a tangible impact on their lives, Tapper and his fellow Democrats shovel progressive outrage-bait slop at their faces.
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They do, and partly it is because of what you said. They *are* hyperpartisans and think of everything in those terms, but I think that is only part of the answer.

I think the other part is that they have nothing else. They have only one actual answer to any presented question. The economy? More of the same, only bigger. Crime? More of the same, only bigger. The border? More of the same, only bigger. Major social problems? More of the same only bigger.

"More of the same only bigger" is their *only* position on everything. They're in charge and so can't back-track. They can't be wrong, which means that they simply didn't go too far enough. The *only* message they have besides the tribal Party loyalism is "we're going to keep doing the same things, only more."

So they go with tribal Party loyalism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (d04cU)

41 Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.

-

LOVE IS LOVE, HOMOPHOBE

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (+402B)

42 I miss substantive debate…if there ever was such a thing…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (84PaW)

43 21 I wonder if screaming for 10 years at the top of their lungs that Trump is the end of the world has maybe caused a little fatigue among normal people who are busy worrying about stupid crap like their bills and food.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (9yFRo

That and near as I can figure this latest thing in new York is just a rehash of stormy daniels. Jeebus they even resurrected Aventti. People are tired of the same old smear.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (OiAR7)

44 14 Nood duties performed
Posted by: Doof

Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.
Posted by: She Hobbit

You have met Doof, yes?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (3drxe)

45 You mean people aren't excited about President Depends running for reelection?

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (0Htd1)

46 16 They do have a Plan B. It involves Joe Biden stroking out on the 4th of July weekend.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (wGerL)

I am tanned, ready, rested, more handsome than Brad Pitt, and a better liar than Joe and Kamala, combined! In other words, I am the ideal replacement for Joe. (Only if needed!)

Posted by: Gavin Hair Gel at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (5fDan)

47 They're utterly DESPERATE to try and MAKE you care, and they literally can't comprehend why normies simply don't care.

The propaganda has really stepped into high gear.

Youtube has now twice in a single week forcibly turned on 'breaking news' recommendations at the top of my home page (despite the fact that I immediately X it out literally every time they turn it on), and BOTH times literally 100% of the 'recommended' so-called 'breaking news' videos was videos about last week Stormy, then yesterday Michael Cohen.

Literally every single video, and all of them with less than 10k views.

They don't understand why the propaganda isn't working.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (setIA)

48
The unspecified horror of what awaits if Trump is allowed to be elected is the funniest part of leftist media these days, 'cause the ignoring the Joey dementia shtick is just accepted as deceit by omission.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

49 > I prefer not to think about Biden crapping out.

Sometimes I enjoy thinking of the time Biden crapped his pants at the Vatican. I hope it was right in front of the Pope. I hope they locked eyes and Biden knew the Pope knew he blasted ass all over his underoos.

I know the American media swears it never happened, if they acknowledge the rumors at all. But everyone in Italy knew about it within hours. It definitely happened.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (Odg76)

50 Waiter, there is some really tasty slop and fishing line with steak on a fishhook in my soup.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (J8LnB)

51 It's the economy, Stupid.
Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (t/2Uw)

52 Trannyfag dog boys stealing luggage and buggery in Senate chambers. Oh, and a whole lot of incompetent asshattery. Can’t imagine why Biden is down in the polls. It’s a real mystery.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (JTwsP)

53 People cared about St.Floyd because they could afford to, and they were bored.

Half the world is at war or about to be, no one can afford a damn thing, everyone is realizing their kids are going to State Run Retard Mills when they thought they were going half a million in hock to get their kid a good career....

Nobody is fixing to give half a fuck about another druggie biting the dust.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (+yhUM)

54 "What the fuck is Peoria?"
-The entire media ecosystem today
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
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And yesterday.

But there was that one brief moment in the of 2016 when media people went on safaris to Ohio to play anthropologist and observe what the Wild People of the Deep Interior thought and did.

They learned nothing, retreated to New York and LA and Washington, and did more of the same only bigger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)

55 47 They're utterly DESPERATE to try and MAKE you care, and they literally can't comprehend why normies simply don't care.

The propaganda has really stepped into high gear.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (setIA)

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Apply this to everything the left has pushed for...decades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)

56 Not sure if a NY jury will be impressed or turned off.
Posted by: sharon

The jury is already in the bag for the prosecution and it doesn't matter what the defense shows or says. They're going to vote guilty because they are vehemently anti-Trump.
The people who are not dyed in the wool libs can see there have been 4 farcical trials and have not been impressed with the any of them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (cE9IT)

57 Trump is their White Whale, their Precious, their Norma Bates, their psychotic obsession that has turned their brains to quivering jelly. Trump is their entire reason for being. They can't stop obsessing about him. And they will never ever forgive him for existing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

Exactly right. From Hell's heart I stab at thee...

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (pohLc)

58 The moment Trump is found guilty (you know it’s coming) everything gets real. I don’t trust people; too large a portion of the general population is stupid. A guilty verdict will take a lot of LIVs who now might well vote for Trump away… because they’ll say to themselves: I can’t vote for a convicted felon! I’d predict the polls will change and Trump will be behind. Hope I’m wrong

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (UHvkm)

59 Our Plan B is to sue the users of Plan B.

Posted by: NY Atty Genital Leticia James at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (w9Wax)

60 I miss substantive debate…if there ever was such a thing…
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

-

Speaking of, some moron said that the teacher who was recorded encouraging his student to use critical thinking skills regarding the harry Potter author lady ("Not what you've heard the crowd tells you about her transphobia, but what do YOU think about her statements?") was fired for encouraging critical thinking skills in academia.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (+402B)

61 >>> Polls Show Americans Don't Care About the Left's Lawfare Campaign Against Trump

And of those that "do care"
35% fully approve of the lawmakers, and
65% are willing to imprison the perps for life, or "died resisting arrest".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (6oezN)

62 Trannyfag dog boys stealing luggage and buggery in Senate chambers. Oh, and a whole lot of incompetent asshattery. Can’t imagine why Biden is down in the polls. It’s a real mystery.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (JTwsP)

Imagine where he'd be if we had an actual media that did it's job.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)

63 Rock ribbed conservative Mike Johnson is standing by his side in NYC this morning. LOL

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (aFNOf)

64 54 But there was that one brief moment in the of 2016 when media people went on safaris to Ohio to play anthropologist and observe what the Wild People of the Deep Interior thought and did.

They learned nothing, retreated to New York and LA and Washington, and did more of the same only bigger.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)

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"We'll never shame these people into caring more about our boutique issues than their stupid day to day concerns. We'll just become more partisan, covering up crimes on our side while making up crimes on the other, until our side has ultimate power."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (GBKbO)

65 16 They do have a Plan B. It involves Joe Biden stroking out on the 4th of July weekend.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (wGerL)

Won't matter - see Woodrow Wilson.

If Dems want a change, they have to remove Jill 1st. She knows all the crimes, and yet is liable for none. And she will NEVER give up the White House willingly. Never, ever, ever.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (exHjb)

66 Sometimes I enjoy thinking of the time Biden crapped his pants at the Vatican. I hope it was right in front of the Pope. I hope they locked eyes and Biden knew the Pope knew he blasted ass all over his underoos.

I know the American media swears it never happened, if they acknowledge the rumors at all. But everyone in Italy knew about it within hours. It definitely happened.

I'm here for the Pope? I thought you said I was here for the poop!

Posted by: Defecatory Joe at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (CsUN+)

67
Trump trials are the legal equivalent of plant-based meat. No one likes it and no one is buying it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (F2j8z)

68 People have a natural empathy for the underdog.
And that is what they have done. Turned a powerful man, a former president, into an underdog.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (MeG8a)

69 "We'll never shame these people into caring more about our boutique issues than their stupid day to day concerns. We'll just become more partisan, covering up crimes on our side while making up crimes on the other, until our side has ultimate power."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
++++
So far, their track record is okay. They're over .500, at least.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (d04cU)

70 Wasn't the Shatican in the Vatican like the first fucking week of this fuckwit's tenure as Fake President?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (+yhUM)

71 Autocucumber -
35% fully approve of the LAWFARE.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (6oezN)

72 63 Rock ribbed conservative Mike Johnson is standing by his side in NYC this morning. LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (aFNOf)

=========

He's gotta look good for the small dollar donors somehow!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

73 The Left thought that they were displacing white R voters when they opened the border. Instead they were replacing their rabid base of supplicants who supported them in order to be first in line.
Ironic, no?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (t/2Uw)

74 Related:

"Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."

Also, the Fed Chair has no idea when inflation will subside and has been reduced to saying he "expects" it will go down sometime this year.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)

75 Trump is their White Whale, their Precious, their Norma Bates, their psychotic obsession that has turned their brains to quivering jelly. Trump is their entire reason for being. They can't stop obsessing about him. And they will never ever forgive him for existing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

=======

I wouldn't mind if they ended up like Ahab.

It might make showering for Trump something of an issue, for sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
_____

And like Ahab, they are so obsessed with revenge they would destroy anything and everything to get Trump. There are people setting themselves on fire over Trump! I say only half-joking that they would nuke DC if they thought it would kill Trump.

But Ahab was a cool character with some great lines. These people are creepy scum who suck farts out of subway seats.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (iFTx/)

76 CNN and the other super left wing media are secretly rooting for Trump. Their ratings were gold
And they were swimming in viewers and revenue when he was President.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (+zMHf)

77 The "oh look squirrel" method only works when Americans have the luxury to notice.

The average American is a bit more concerned about keeping their job and food on the table. The average American probably sees the trial as political "inside baseball" and aren't really all that interested as the trial is more than 10 miles from their house.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (tT6L1)

78 Damn people run out of a thread like there is a credible bomb threat when a nood is called.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (MNhXM)

79 74 Related:

"Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."

Also, the Fed Chair has no idea when inflation will subside and has been reduced to saying he "expects" it will go down sometime this year.
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)

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Don't they know that wage growth has outpaced inflation? DU should have told them by now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

80 The story is that Einstein was shown a German newspaper that claimed "One hundred German physicists claim Einsteins theory of relativity is wrong."

Einstein responded: "If I were wrong, then one [author] would have been enough!"

.. if Trump were this great criminal, only one court case would have been needed to prove it.

Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo)

81 ... "Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors." ...
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)
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The low-middle - and this company is firmly in the low-middle market - is going to vanish if this keeps up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (d04cU)

82 I wonder if Trump's ability to rise above anything they fling at him has anything to do with making them lose?

Eh probably nah bro. Trump's an idiot who lucks into basically everything and has had it all handed to him with practically no resistance from anywhere.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (9yFRo)

83 You have met Doof, yes?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Indeed, but most often in the context of disco. Disco WITH clothing.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (psI1i)

84
Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."

__________

Pancakes are inexpensive enough.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (F2j8z)

85 75 But Ahab was a cool character with some great lines. These people are creepy scum who suck farts out of subway seats.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (iFTx/)

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Ahab understood his own character flaws, which was one of the great sources of tragedy within him.

I don't think the modern left has any idea of their own character flaws.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

86 I don't believe for a minute that this is their only plan.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (mcBhk)

87 Damn people run out of a thread like there is a credible bomb threat when a nood is called.
Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (MNhXM)

We take the "don't post in old threads" rule SERIOUSLY, man......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

88 They learned nothing, retreated to New York and LA and Washington, and did more of the same only bigger.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:22 PM (d04cU)

After a long hot shower that was needed after dealing with Those People.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (84PaW)

89 The dogs don't like the dogfood.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 14, 2024 12:27 PM (rJ48h)

90 78 Damn people run out of a thread like there is a credible bomb threat when a nood is called.
Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (MNhXM)

Kinda like my now defunct Tennis career ...

Posted by: Camila Giorgi at May 14, 2024 12:27 PM (TTAGa)

91 Rock ribbed conservative Mike Johnson is standing by his side in NYC this morning. LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (aFNOf)

Are you ever positive about anything?

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:27 PM (MNhXM)

92 "The jury is already in the bag for the prosecution and it doesn't matter what the defense shows or says"

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Yes. Remember the loon in Georgia they put as forewoman of the Grand Jury? She thought she was a witch and was telling CNN they were there for a reason before the indictments came out.

Everyone on this NYC jury is just as crazy.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:27 PM (i7Q7S)

93 81 The low-middle - and this company is firmly in the low-middle market - is going to vanish if this keeps up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (d04cU)

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"It's good that the poor are suffering so they'll consume less and die off to save Gaia."
-Party of the Everyman

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:27 PM (GBKbO)

94 4 They don't have a Plan B.

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Yeah, they really do. It's more of a Plan A.

They wish it wasn't Plan A, but...the American people are ungovernable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The problem with the big steal redux from 2020 is that it depends on a large group of people, paid directly, and unpaid, willing to break the laws enthusiastically in order to carry it off. Then it depends on unified silence (unlike We Did It in 2020) to prop up a disgusting demented old sob in office so the looting can continue.

It also depends on the GOP doing nothing.

Internally, the Deep State is not really unified in 2024 becuz you have the corporate types that are now realizing the China trade is risky and getting riskier for supply lines, the military types worrying already about Joe's destruction of it to the point they cannot fill their recruiting quotas, the foreign policy types that like Israel and hate Iran and the Palis, and economic types that realize the US is about to hit a financial iceberg of debt head-on.

Only the media that runs the Dems is still fully on board and its credibility and wealth is declining faster than Biden's.
Cont.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (Z+tXy)

95 Trump's breath still stinks!

Posted by: Dorcas Blimline at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (PiwSw)

96 "Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."

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Yeah, when two adults and two kids can't go to Shoneys or Dennys or somewhere similar and come out for less than $65, it's going to affect your business.

Good luck! Oh, and BIDEN 2024, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (ywTwj)

97 The story is that Einstein was shown a German newspaper that claimed "One hundred German physicists claim Einsteins theory of relativity is wrong."

Einstein responded: "If I were wrong, then one [author] would have been enough!"

.. if Trump were this great criminal, only one court case would have been needed to prove it.
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo)
***

Excellent story.
I'm stealing this.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (W/lyH)

98 I missed this yesterday, but that Eurotrash “song contest” is the Folsom Street Fair set to music.

Holy shit, what a sorry bunch of mentally-ill cock gobblers and rug munchers. Where they trying to imitate the Cantina Bar scene? I can only imagine the smell and slimy floors backstage.

Even the Israeli girl, who was one of the most normal there, was over-stylized to look like an alien elf.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (iFTx/)

99 35% of any population is fine with most of the rest of the population being lined up in ditches and shot in the head if it gives them power and wealth. Those are the people that will always vote for idiots like Joe Biden.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (JTwsP)

100 don't believe for a minute that this is their only plan.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (mcBhk)

Pocoroba Johnson is right.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (9yFRo)

101 After a long hot shower that was needed after dealing with Those People.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM (84PaW)
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I'd be genuinely surprised to learn that they didn't scrub down with bleach after their safari.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (d04cU)

102 Pancakes are inexpensive enough.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2024

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They should be. But we're working on that.

Posted by: IHOP at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (J2vNu)

103 Proving, once again, that's "it's the economy, stupid." That, plus most Americans see these prosecutions for the kangaroo courts that they are, and even people who don't like Trump like that even less.

Posted by: Syracuse1989 at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (exm8+)

104 If Trump is "convicted"...what are the penalties?

Posted by: BignJames at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (AwYPR)

105
...it is important to remember that Trump never led in any swing state poll in 2020

There was talk back then about the 'shy' polls - where people were intentionally lying to pollsters. All I know is from historical averages Trump won Ohio by such a margin that he won Pennsylvania too.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (RKVpM)

106 The low-middle - and this company is firmly in the low-middle market - is going to vanish if this keeps up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

And the entire middle class is joining this company.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (cE9IT)

107 > Wasn't the Shatican in the Vatican like the first fucking week of this fuckwit's tenure as Fake President?

I believe the Vatican event was in October, so about ten months in.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (Odg76)

108 "Don't they know that wage growth has outpaced inflation? DU should have told them by now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda "

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Heh. Right. And, don't forget all the jobs! There are like so many jobs created because of Biden!!!

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (i7Q7S)

109 And the entire middle class is joining this company.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (cE9IT)
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That's why the company will vanish, yes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (d04cU)

110 105 There was talk back then about the 'shy' polls - where people were intentionally lying to pollsters. All I know is from historical averages Trump won Ohio by such a margin that he won Pennsylvania too.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (RKVpM)

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Same with FL and GA. The GA results literally make no sense.

But we just need a better candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (GBKbO)

111 My theory has always been the Left hate Trump like they do because personality wise he is just like them.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (MNhXM)

112 "Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."

Put the four flavored syrups back on all the tables again at IHOP you cheap bastards.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (84PaW)

113 And it's crapping out."

I prefer not to think about Biden crapping out.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth)

How do you think we feel?

Posted by: Secret Service at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (0Htd1)

114 Trump is their White Whale, their Precious, their Norma Bates, their psychotic obsession that has turned their brains to quivering jelly. Trump is their entire reason for being. They can't stop obsessing about him. And they will never ever forgive him for existing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

Exactly right. From Hell's heart I stab at thee...
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (pohLc)
_____

Wait? What? That wasn't Khan who said that?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

115 Same with FL and GA. The GA results literally make no sense.

But we just need a better candidate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (GBKbO)

A better, QUALITY candidate.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (84PaW)

116 I don't think the modern left has any idea of their own character flaws.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:26 PM

They don't have character flaws. You have to have character to have character flaws.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (pohLc)

117 114 Exactly right. From Hell's heart I stab at thee...
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (pohLc)
_____

Wait? What? That wasn't Khan who said that?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (iFTx/)

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Technically, Picard said it first since he had gone back in time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

118 "Yeah, when two adults and two kids can't go to Shoneys or Dennys or somewhere similar and come out for less than $65, it's going to affect your business."

============

I took my wife out for breakfast on Sunday and it was $54.

We are nowhere near the low-middle, yet it still raises your eyebrow. That's a lot of money for 2 omelets and coffee.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (i7Q7S)

119 Yeah, they really do. It's more of a Plan A.

They wish it wasn't Plan A, but...the American people are ungovernable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I don't think the alternative-Americans they are shipping in by the planeload are going to be as governable as they hope...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (7fElN)

120 Willowed from the last thread:

I assume those are leaked NATO military plans. Given that NATO is the one antagonizing Russia and peace could be had if they merely stopped.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 14, 2024 12:05 PM (nR2nR)
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An assumption not backed by Russia's activity over the last 20 or so years. Easy to say and perhaps hope, not justified by the facts on the ground. Germany was willing to gut its entire industrial footprint because they finally realized what Russia was about.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (GZYu7)

Posted by: Black JEM at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (GZYu7)

121 How do you think we feel?
Posted by: Secret Service

Is Biden still swimming nude in front of female SS agents?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (Odg76)

122 Mollie
@MZHemingway

However much you loathe corporate media, it is nowhere near enough. You people will stoop to any level to support your political aims, including destroying rule of law and enabling those who destroy rule of law so long as such destruction also harms Republicans. DISGUSTING.

Steve Peoples
@sppeoples

The appearance of the House speaker, second in the line of succession to the president, is a politically stunning and significant show of Republican support for the indicted Trump, coming from the highest levels of party power.

Johnson is using the powerful pulpit of the speaker’s office to attack and tear down the U.S. judicial system...

Posted by: redridinghood at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (NpAcC)

123 They don't have character flaws. You have to have character to have character flaws.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (pohLc)
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You also need outside perspective. They have none of that. They forcibly removed that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (d04cU)

124
They don't have a Plan B.

The have a Cardi B

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)

125 The four court cases are meant as much to tie him in knots and give them nonstop fodder to discuss on the cables (instead of dumb shit like grocery prices and wars) more than anything else.

Go turn your TV to one of the "news" channels and see what the talking puppetfags are discussing.

This is their campaign for president. And Lord knows what they're doing that we're not seeing. You know they're still actively spying on him and his campaign.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (9yFRo)

126 Oligarchies often 'permit' an opposition candidate to win a term to relieve public pressure on the regime and then resort to all sorts of actions to sabotage the opposition and neuter them. They used all these techniques in 2016 with virtually no punishment so it might be tempting for some of those same folks to do the same in 2024.

Especially if something that threatens the entire regime like a massive financial crisis or a war going badly might occur during the opposition's term in office.

Others are going to be dead enders and the ones with there ass hanging out for reprisals--public and private--are likely to be the loudest of the pigs squealing Joementum and muh Democracy.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (Z+tXy)

127 No one cares about the President Trump persecutions because most Americans know that our court system at all levels is pure shit.

Pure. Shit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (IebSC)

128 Proving, once again, that's "it's the economy, stupid."

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It's verboten to discuss, but that's why Trump was re-elected in a landslide in 2020.

The states locked businesses and had armed police roaming around making sure no one was able to buy or sell from a mom and pop store and could only purchase limited goods from the international corporation, and his economy was STILL pretty great.

People wanted it to continue. Our Better said no.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (ywTwj)

129 Plan B is abortion, abortion, abortion.

Save Our Democracy (TM) and kill the kids.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (bs3S1)

130 The have a Cardi B
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)

Most of them could use Cardi O

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (9yFRo)

131 Nood duties performed
Posted by: Doof

Getting the idea you really like the nood duties.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:16 PM (psI1i)

Probably way more than anyone else likes me liking them

Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (ignRF)

132 Eurovision has been hot garbage since it was just some shitty dance bands in the 90's that looked like they were from the '70s and came from countries that hadn't invented vowels yet.

If the troons want it, they can have it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (+yhUM)

133 I wonder if screaming for 10 years at the top of their lungs that Trump is the end of the world has maybe caused a little fatigue among normal people who are busy worrying about stupid crap like their bills and food.
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (9yFRo

Well, this is part of the strategy - "Do you want us to go away, quit screaming every day in your face, making your social life miserable - then JAIL TRUMP! If you would just elect all our choices, then all these unpleasantness will go away...we promise!" It's hostage taking, much like Soro's funded protesters do when they lay down on the highways or bridges...

But...the screaming and unpleasantness never goes away...that's the con.

Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (K+UlC)

134 133 Well, this is part of the strategy - "Do you want us to go away, quit screaming every day in your face, making your social life miserable - then JAIL TRUMP! If you would just elect all our choices, then all these unpleasantness will go away...we promise!" It's hostage taking, much like Soro's funded protesters do when they lay down on the highways or bridges...

But...the screaming and unpleasantness never goes away...that's the con.
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (K+UlC)

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Reportedly, John Roberts begged and pleaded with his fellow justices to let the election cases fall in 2020 because it would return things to normal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (GBKbO)

135 Well, this is part of the strategy - "Do you want us to go away, quit screaming every day in your face, making your social life miserable - then JAIL TRUMP! If you would just elect all our choices, then all these unpleasantness will go away...we promise!" It's hostage taking, much like Soro's funded protesters do when they lay down on the highways or bridges...

But...the screaming and unpleasantness never goes away...that's the con.
Posted by: Boswell

They werent boarding up inner cities in 2020 in case of a Biden victory...

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (CIS44)

136 I saw Talking Puppetfags open for Talking Heads at Paladia in '79.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

137 Oligarchies often 'permit' an opposition candidate to win a term to relieve public pressure on the regime and then resort to all sorts of actions to sabotage the opposition and neuter them. They used all these techniques in 2016 with virtually no punishment so it might be tempting for some of those same folks to do the same in 2024. ...
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (Z+tXy)
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Yup. I think it is well within the realm of possibility that they'll just let Trump win. They know how to manage him and he will solve a fair number of problems for them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (d04cU)

138 > Most of them could use Cardi O

Nice.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (Odg76)

139 The vote will come down to how many people are willing to overlook how shitty this country has become under the junta.

But the official totals? That comes down to how much we the people let the junta get away with

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:34 PM (ibTVg)

140 "The 13 students who have only consumed water since Friday, May 3 have ended their hunger strike, Princeton Israeli Apartheid Divest (PIAD) announced on social media around 9:30 p.m. on Sunday, May 12. Seven other students have since begun hunger strikes in their place."
H/T Legal Insurrection

I don't think the Princeton "students" understand how a hunger strike works...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 14, 2024 12:34 PM (cE9IT)

141 Ace

Well written.

What amazes me is how sticky Biden's support is. Based on his (regime's) record, he should be trailing by 10 points-- instead of being ahead in MI.

If Biden carries MI*, WI & PA*, Biden wins. Period.

*instinct causes me to doubt that Trump can win PA but lose MI, which is what the RCP averages for those 2 states currently show. As for WI, I'll believe Trump wins there ONLY if & when I actually see it happen.

So. Whenever someone rejoices about Trump's sizable leads in NV, AZ & GA? Doesn't mean a damn thing without Trump winning one of those other swingers.

Posted by: mnw at May 14, 2024 12:34 PM (NLIak)

142 When Joe entered the Rose Garden several minutes ago he did only one, very small, pretend jogging step. Joe is nevertheless still Stronk and Vigorous!!!!

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 12:34 PM (5fDan)

143 There was talk back then about the 'shy' polls . . . .
Posted by: Divide by Zero

The Paolo has never had, how you say, a shy poll.

Posted by: The Paolo at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (82U+n)

144 They don't have a Plan B. This is what they've got. This is it. This is the only thing they have in the cupboard.

And it's crapping out.
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Yup.
1) they were going to bloody him up with allowing any and all negative smears against him in court; and endless commercials of "testified in court"
2) they were going to prevent him from responding by unconstitutional gag orders (don't forget, he's still under a gag order from the DC courts)
3) they were going trap him in court, staggering each trial through to the election--preventing him from campaigning and worse, contrasting Biden's no-campaigning.
4) guilty verdicts were timed to drop right at any major momentum; VP pick, convention. Plus endless commercials of "guilty, guilty, guilty!"

Somehow, the American people are seeing that throwing out every law, regulation, policy, procedure and norm to get one man isn't right.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (g9W3m)

145 Heh. Right. And, don't forget all the jobs! There are like so many jobs created because of Biden!!!
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 14, 2024

***
Yeah! There are so many jobs, I picked up three of 'em!

Posted by: Average Lefty Voter at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (J2vNu)

146 "Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."
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Non-snarky question, but how do they know the income of their customers?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (T+Iwg)

147 When the public asks about the wide-open border and Americans killed by "newcomers," Tapper and his fellow Democrats cry "But his Twitter!!!"
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Can someone please find a Trump Tweet that deserves to generate so much outrage that someone would be turned off from the guy? For years, the MSM would take individual tweets and 'explain' them to us in such a way as to elicit some heretofore shattering of norms of the presidency. Frankly, none of them did it for me. Pre-POTUS, I suppose his Megyn and Cruz tweets moved the needle for me, but during his presidency - absolutely not.

The media have painted him as a particular character, and there's not much he can do about that in the short-term. That, however, doesn't mean that they were right about it. I don't think they ever were.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (eZ1xg)

148 Gas Pump Guy > Jeff Zeleny

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (IebSC)

149 The four court cases are meant as much to tie him in knots and give them nonstop fodder to discuss on the cables (instead of dumb shit like grocery prices and wars) more than anything else.

If there was an opposition party they'd be talking about Bidenflation 24-7

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (ibTVg)

150 146 Non-snarky question, but how do they know the income of their customers?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (T+Iwg)

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Probably marketing research done in a combination of ways.

I imagine there's a loyalty program as well that can serve as a source.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

151
Reportedly, John Roberts begged and pleaded with his fellow justices to let the election cases fall in 2020 because it would return things to normal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (GBKbO)

John Roberts places being able to hand out with the cool kids above any other consideration, including silliness like the Constitution.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (84PaW)

152 If we could just jail Trump, ban MAGA , get rid of the electoral college and voter ID, stack the Supreme Court , suppress Free Speech and take away citizen’s guns we can save Democracy !!!!

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (MNhXM)

153 124
They don't have a Plan B.

The have a Cardi B
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)
____

And a Lizzo

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

154 Non-snarky question, but how do they know the income of their customers?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (T+Iwg)
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Market research and surveys, would be my guess. Or they have a "club" and get precise data based on enrollment (this is one of the big reasons for supermarket "clubs" - very good demographic information)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (d04cU)

155 My theory has always been the Left hate Trump like they do because personality wise he is just like them.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:29 PM (MNhXM)

Trump knows the Left's game and plays it better than they do. That's what they can't abide. They are so jealous he's not on their side because if he was we would have been "fundamentally transformed" so fast your head would spin.

Imagen a world where he graces every magazine cover with a halo. Could have happened if he'd been for abortion, open borders, bug eating and the general destruction of the west.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (9yFRo)

156 Justice Roberts is proof of Rush’s adage that there are really two types of people: those who hated HS and those who never want HS to end.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (84PaW)

157 I saw Talking Puppetfags open for Talking Heads at Paladia in '79.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

Talk Talk unavailable??

Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (ignRF)

158 19 CNN chief national affairs correspondent Jeff Zeleny reports that swing-state voters are showing disdain and fatigue over the ongoing Trump trial, amidst polling data that shows Trump leading Biden in six key states.

That's how you know it's time for St Floyd II: Electric Boogaloo. The usual Dem strategy of turning everything up to 11 so that the message is "vote for us and the anger stops! Vote for Trump and we burn the country down!"

It's worked before. I have no doubt it will work again, if the Deep State decides to knife Trump.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 12:17 PM (Q0kLU)

I disagree assuming it will work again.
They promised the anger stopped, but it didn't.
diminishing returns is what they will get.

Posted by: Inogame at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (53oGX)

159 If we could just jail Trump, ban MAGA , get rid of the electoral college and voter ID, stack the Supreme Court , suppress Free Speech and take away citizen’s guns we can save Democracy !!!!
Posted by: polynikes

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I'm betting the House passes amnesty before the election.

There's too much at stake to risk waiting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (ywTwj)

160 'Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'.'
- J

Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (NxC5+)

161 Yup. I think it is well within the realm of possibility that they'll just let Trump win. They know how to manage him and he will solve a fair number of problems for them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (d04cU)

I'm not as much concerned about Trump as I am about who's taking up the mantle after Trump. Our bench may be just as wide as the one the Republicans put up in 2016, but about as deep.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (eZ1xg)

162 I’m not surprised that the DC establishment is, petty, vindictive, and corrupt. What surprises me the most is how retardedly incompetent they are.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (JTwsP)

163 You mean that naked political persecution plays to the urban blue base, but doesn't play in Peoria?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:15 PM (d04cU)

+++++

The lawfare has radicalized the right tho. Who would have thought the Reagan wing would be calling for the end of the US intelligence and law enforcement agencies or a return to the gold standard?

Okay, the gold standard thing was totally predictable.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (ogTiX)

164 The have a Cardi B
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)
____

And a Lizzo
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

How much slower is earth’s rotation with them on this planet?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (84PaW)

165 This is their campaign for president. And Lord knows what they're doing that we're not seeing. You know they're still actively spying on him and his campaign.
Posted by: ...
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Stupidity is repeating one's strategies when they are public. Same as the FBI and disinfo press conference.

You can get a sense of the hivemind when you read H. Beam Piper's "Naudsonce", a brief short story where human explorers met aliens with a most unusual culture and government. I think it is no longer under copyright and available at project Gutenberg among other places.

Basically becoming one with the hivemind by repeating slogans,chanting, etc. gives the participants emotional lift to their mental state. The participants do it because it makes them feel good and helps them ignore that reality is going to shit around them.

Our governing elites are at that stage---some are beginning to realize what time it is, some are mindlessly coping by clinging harder to Team D and the media complex, and others with less insulation to reality are pondering a change or at least sitting this one out.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (Z+tXy)

166 Non-snarky question, but how do they know the income of their customers?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

Oh, there is shittons of customer data known by all of the medium to large franchise operations.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (82U+n)

167 158 I disagree assuming it will work again.
They promised the anger stopped, but it didn't.
diminishing returns is what they will get.
Posted by: Inogame at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (53oGX)

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The courts will allow it.

Will the people outside of Philly allow it, though. That's the real question.

At some point, "They can't arrest all of us," is going to be implicitly considered by a large group of people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

168 If there was an opposition party they'd be talking about Bidenflation 24-7
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (ibTVg

There are so many issues to talk about it makes it difficult to just focus on just one. Others would say we need to talk about illegal immigration 24/7.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (MNhXM)

169 "Dine Brands Global Inc. DIN, +0.32%, the owner of the pancake chain IHOP and restaurant chain Applebee’s, said in its earnings call Wednesday that fewer consumers earning $50,000 a year and below visited its restaurants in the past quarter. Even when they do, they are “more aggressively” managing the amount they spend, Dine Brands CEO John Peyton told investors."
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Non-snarky question, but how do they know the income of their customers?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 14, 2024 12:35 PM (T+Iwg)
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They don't. They probably have "market research" on their customers' incomes, but you can wipe your ass with that. Self-reported income is about as reliable as self-reported sexual partners. Some have incentive to raise the number, some have incentive to lower it. Almost nobody has incentive to tell the truth.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

170 I am worried the Democrats will take over Congress, it's a slim chance but could happen.

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (qFAMI)

171 Ace,

I think they have a plan B, and it might be a war.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (d9fT1)

172 161 I'm not as much concerned about Trump as I am about who's taking up the mantle after Trump. Our bench may be just as wide as the one the Republicans put up in 2016, but about as deep.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (eZ1xg)

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My assumption has been that as soon as Trump is done, we'll be arguing about which Republican's tax plan is best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

173 Along a similar vein I've mentioned a blue town near mine had a vote on a massive tax increase. If they didn't approve the increase the town would lay off some teachers. They were in this straight because they took COVID money and used it to hire...more permanent staff and Bidenflation of course.

The NO votes won, and I see on facebook all the butthurt tax increase voters saying "how dare you take this money from 'our' kids" though most of the complainers are teachers, not parents. IT ISN'T YOUR MONEY and there isn't an infinite amount of it for the government to just take...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (ibTVg)

174 I am worried the Democrats will take over Congress, it's a slim chance but could happen.
Posted by: Skip

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I hope someone tells us if they do.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (ywTwj)

175 I guess I missed the whole "gas pump guy."

Supwitdat?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

176 I'm with DOT:
Airlines sue DOT over new rules requiring full disclosure of all fees https://tinyurl.com/mu34prbt

Posted by: Ciampino - Bwaaa no more hidden fees at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (qfLjt)

177 I'm betting the House passes amnesty before the election.

There's too much at stake to risk waiting.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:37 PM (ywTwj)

I just wish they’d abolish CBP if they do that. I mean, why bother going through CBP if people keep bending over backwards to help those who break our immigration laws?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:40 PM (84PaW)

178 biden trying to bail out the elec vehicle industry in this country by slapping tariffs on chinese e.v cars. hint: send hunter money and we might change our minds

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 14, 2024 12:40 PM (B1FKF)

179 and others with less insulation to reality are pondering a change or at least sitting this one out.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (Z+tXy)

Even Big Brother can't fix things with all these fucking Ogilvies ruining everything for everybody.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:40 PM (+yhUM)

180
There are so many issues to talk about it makes it difficult to just focus on just one. Others would say we need to talk about illegal immigration 24/7.

Part of Bidenflation is the government giving money to illegals. Talk about that...but the Bidenflation hits everyone even leftists and you can't hide it

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:40 PM (ibTVg)

181 I'm pretty sick and tired of living under an administration that is allowed touse the courts to punich enemies of the state and there is no push back.

30-year-old pro-life activist Lauren Handy has just been sentenced to 57 months in federal prison for handing roses and resources to women at an abortion facility,

She "invaded" an abortion facility.
Five people have committed suicide after being charged for Jan6.
People held in jail for more than 3 years without trial destroying their lives and families for Jan6.
People charged with made up crimes so that even when found innocent, ruined financially.

How is this America?
I want my country back.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (t/2Uw)

182
Technically, Picard said it first since he had gone back in time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

But, no Shatner reaction shot, always as great as his spoken lines, so, meh.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (j4U/Z)

183 The lawfare has radicalized the right tho. Who would have thought the Reagan wing would be calling for the end of the US intelligence and law enforcement agencies or a return to the gold standard?

Okay, the gold standard thing was totally predictable.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (ogTiX)

They are not calling for the end of it. Calling for it to be dismantled and start over. They are irrevocably broken.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (MNhXM)

184 The have a Cardi B
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)
____

And a Lizzo
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

How much slower is earth’s rotation with them on this planet?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:38 PM (84PaW)
_________

Are they together? Or on opposite sides? In fairness, Cardi B is thick but otherwise not unattractive. She's a supermodel compared to Lizzo. I actually met her once. She's not unattractive. She's tiny, though. If she's 5 feet tall it's a stretch.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

185 pi]91 Rock ribbed conservative Mike Johnson is standing by his side in NYC this morning. LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:23 PM (aFNOf)

Are you ever positive about anything?
Posted by: polynikes

I'm positive the GOP will stab you in the back then sell your kidneys to China.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (aFNOf)

186 This freckled, bespectacled brunette wants answers to her concerns, not unrelated platitudes about "Democracy" and whatnot:
http://tiny.cc/sdx2yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)

187 185 I'm positive the GOP will stab you in the back then sell your kidneys to China.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (aFNOf)

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With money laundered through Ukraine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (GBKbO)

188 Trannyfag dog boys stealing luggage and buggery in Senate chambers. Oh, and a whole lot of incompetent asshattery. Can’t imagine why Biden is down in the polls. It’s a real mystery.

"No idea what you're talking about. Those things never happened or else we would have reported it."
-- MSM

Posted by: Oddbob at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (/y8xj)

189 30-year-old pro-life activist Lauren Handy has just been sentenced to 57 months in federal prison for handing roses and resources to women at an abortion facility,

She "invaded" an abortion facility.
Five people have committed suicide after being charged for Jan6.
People held in jail for more than 3 years without trial destroying their lives and families for Jan6.
People charged with made up crimes so that even when found innocent, ruined financially.

-

While 200+ riot charges against illegals in El Paso who rioted, toppled fences, and attacked border patrol agents were dropped by a local judge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (dF0kp)

190 The lawfare has radicalized the right tho. Who would have thought the Reagan wing would be calling for the end of the US intelligence and law enforcement agencies or a return to the gold standard?

In the 80s those agencies were turned on the Soviets. Now they are turned on us.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)

191 Does it matter what party controls congress? Biden is cancelling $1 trillion of student loans without congressional consent and despite an adverse supreme court ruling.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (ogTiX)

192 I guess I missed the whole "gas pump guy."

Supwitdat?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

You are so lucky. With everyone bringing it up in every thread, I'll never get that scene out of my head

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (psI1i)

193 It's worked before. I have no doubt it will work again, if the Deep State decides to knife Trump.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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That was in conjunction with the Covid shutdowns. Not so easy to pull off now and the schools will be at summer recess soon.

One can always look at a situation and detect what one wants to find via facts (Texas Sharpshooter fallacy) and we are all guilty of that somewhat. It is always better to consider the future as probabilistic rather than determinative and add a fairly large dollop of unpredictable humanity to that.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (Z+tXy)

194 Are they together? Or on opposite sides? In fairness, Cardi B is thick but otherwise not unattractive. She's a supermodel compared to Lizzo. I actually met her once. She's not unattractive. She's tiny, though. If she's 5 feet tall it's a stretch.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

“Thick” is a PC way of saying “fat”.

“Curvy” is the same thing.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (84PaW)

195 http://tiny.cc/sdx2yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:42 PM (d04cU)

"Is that jizz on your lip or are you done seeing me?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (Zz0t1)

196 Even with wall-to- wall reporting unanimously proclaiming the trials are high holy and utmost fair, the public is--rightly--seeing this is all being directed from the White House.

If the economy was doing great, no new wars, etc, the public might have tuned this out.

But this is an easy, "I hate that asshole, everything that fucker does is shit" confirmation.

People are at the end of their rope.
And no one but Trump is defending them.
And so all they see is the Democrats attacking Trump.
And them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (g9W3m)

197 175 I guess I missed the whole "gas pump guy."

Supwitdat?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

Disgusting shit that should be forgotten about…

Posted by: tubal at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (PCK5/)

198 Five people have committed suicide after being charged for Jan6.
People held in jail for more than 3 years without trial destroying their lives and families for Jan6.
People charged with made up crimes so that even when found innocent, ruined financially.

How is this America?
I want my country back.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (t/2Uw)

And, lest we forget, some of the J6'ers own family members reported them to the FBI in the midst of COVID-hysteria. That will make for some awkward Thanksgivings in 2025, that's for sure.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (eZ1xg)

199 Get your outrage-bait slop at the bait shop and you will be a master baiter !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (NtVYv)

200 "My Administration is building 500,000 charging stations across America!"

My question, Joe, is, "When will they all be in operation?"

Joe? JOE?

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (5fDan)

201 Does it matter what party controls congress? Biden is cancelling $1 trillion of student loans without congressional consent and despite an adverse supreme court ruling.

A President 18-1 would sent Biden a bill for the full amount due within 30 days.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (ibTVg)

202 Yup. I think it is well within the realm of possibility that they'll just let Trump win. They know how to manage him and he will solve a fair number of problems for them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (d04cU)

I don't think so, Joe...to do this is to defeat the hostage taking strategy that the Dems use against Americans. "Just give us want we want, and the pain will cease! The screaming, the protest, the chaos, the problems of your life" is the hostage takers' stratagem so, by not giving them what they want, ie all their candidates elected, and thus obtaining even a modicum of relief from their oppression, ie an elected Trump and Republican legislation...is never going to further their stratagem. People will start to ignore it or laugh at it after that...and that, they cannot have.

Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (K+UlC)

203
I'm betting the House passes amnesty before the election.

There's too much at stake to risk waiting.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Amnesty aka Comprehensive Immigration Reform

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (63Dwl)

204 re 167: "At some point, "They can't arrest all of us," is going to be implicitly considered by a large group of people."

dept of justice boasts they've arrested over 1300 people from jan 6

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (B1FKF)

205 > John Roberts places being able to hand out with the cool kids above any other consideration, including silliness like the Constitution.

I don't think it's exactly hanging with the cool kids. I think Roberts really REALLY cares about the stature of SCOTUS, and he wants his tenure to reflect the majesty or some other lofty crap like that.

It's a similar mindset to the one you mentioned, and in effect it's the same. He's more concerned with how people he thinks are important perceive the court than with doing the right thing.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (Odg76)

206 Didn't Cardi B used to be a hooker? I vaguely recall her offering some story where she would rob her johns.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (ibTVg)

207
dept of justice boasts they've arrested over 1300 people from jan 6
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (B1FKF)

And none of them are Ray Epps.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

208 Sure seems the Democrats Propaganda Ministry cares, Trump gets more coverage than Sundowner wasting away in Wilmington every weekend

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (qFAMI)

209 If there was an opposition party they'd be talking about Bidenflation 24-7
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:36 PM (ibTVg)

Their silence is deafening as usual.

When I complained about it under Obama I was lectured often here that our GOP Leaders were merely "afraid" of being called "racist".

So... that was a lie.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (9yFRo)

210 Didn't Cardi B used to be a hooker? I vaguely recall her offering some story where she would rob her johns.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (ibTVg)

Jay Z sold crack to school kids to fund his rap career.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

211 121 How do you think we feel?
Posted by: Secret Service

Is Biden still swimming nude in front of female SS agents?
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:30 PM (Odg76)
Well, that one chick agent did go bonkers.

Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (NxC5+)

212 When I complained about it under Obama I was lectured often here that our GOP Leaders were merely "afraid" of being called "racist".

So... that was a lie.

The GOPe has been controlled opposition since Jan 1999.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:46 PM (ibTVg)

213 186 This freckled, bespectacled brunette wants answers to her concerns, not unrelated platitudes about "Democracy" and whatnot:
http://tiny.cc/sdx2yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I'm a sucker for a somewhat nerdy looking girl wearing glasses.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 14, 2024 12:46 PM (aFNOf)

214 Are they together? Or on opposite sides? In fairness, Cardi B is thick but otherwise not unattractive. She's a supermodel compared to Lizzo. I actually met her once. She's not unattractive. She's tiny, though. If she's 5 feet tall it's a stretch.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

“Thick” is a PC way of saying “fat”.

“Curvy” is the same thing.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:43 PM (84PaW)
_____

Usually true, but in this case you can google her. She's not fat. She's built like Kim Kardashian.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:46 PM (iFTx/)

215 There may always be another plan: A REUTERS SPECIAL REPORT, 'Trump blasts his trial judges. Then his fans call for violence,' May 14, 2024

Charlottesville, St. John's, CHAD, J6th, yada yada...

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at May 14, 2024 12:46 PM (NFX2v)

216 191 Does it matter what party controls congress? Biden is cancelling $1 trillion of student loans without congressional consent and despite an adverse supreme court ruling.
Posted by: Oglebay

Always easier to do a negative thing than positive as president. Refusing to collect money due is easier to do as prezzie and Scotus really cannot demand it unless they are willing (and they are not) to hold Biden and his junta in jail under contempt of court proceedings.

Scotus has only done contempt proceedings directly once to my recollection and that was a sheriff who defied a Scotus order to protect a prisoner that was lynched due to that failure. Chattanooga I believe and during Teddy's term of office.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (Z+tXy)

217 I don't think so, Joe...to do this is to defeat the hostage taking strategy that the Dems use against Americans. "Just give us want we want, and the pain will cease! The screaming, the protest, the chaos, the problems of your life" is the hostage takers' stratagem so, by not giving them what they want, ie all their candidates elected, and thus obtaining even a modicum of relief from their oppression, ie an elected Trump and Republican legislation...is never going to further their stratagem. People will start to ignore it or laugh at it after that...and that, they cannot have.
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (K+UlC)
++++
It's not a sure thing by any means, but letting Trump win has many upsides that the smarter people in the politburo will surely recognize. It deals with the Biden/Harris problem, they can hang the major economic event that's coming up (there will be one, and probably soon) around his neck, they can loudly assert, "see, there's no cheating and your faith in our institutions is well-founded," etc.

There are upsides to letting a popular opposition figure that they can contain - and they can largely contain him - into office to act as a pressure relief.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (d04cU)

218 Said long ago, when they realized they are feeding thousands and not getting any work other than their jolly beating them up, the Gulags will open. California has a high speed train to build.

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (qFAMI)

219 I don't think it's exactly hanging with the cool kids. I think Roberts really REALLY cares about the stature of SCOTUS, and he wants his tenure to reflect the majesty or some other lofty crap like that.

It's a similar mindset to the one you mentioned, and in effect it's the same. He's more concerned with how people he thinks are important perceive the court than with doing the right thing.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (Odg76)

I get what you are saying. But, as he is inside the Beltway, I have always suspected that he’s really scared of being dropped from the cocktail circuit or being invited to hand out with Those That Matter. And both motivations can be parallel to each other.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (84PaW)

220 So the same number of wealthy people who have met all demand for EVs will have 500K additional charging stations to rarely use.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (dF0kp)

221 I think they have a plan B, and it might be a war.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Considering 'no more foreign wars' is one of Trump's propositions, that could backfire. The Bidet handlers wouldn't risk a war with a near-peer, and the US public won't give a shit if we knock over another 'stan FuR dEmOcRAcY~~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)

222 Don't they know that wage growth has outpaced inflation? DU should have told them by now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

...

I don't know how many more economic victories like this we can stand.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (z/ifB)

223 This freckled, bespectacled brunette wants answers to her concerns, not unrelated platitudes about "Democracy" and whatnot:
http://tiny.cc/sdx2yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix
_________

Cute, but not up to Mannix standards. Can we have do over?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (mcBhk)

224 You'll need to write in his name if you want to vote for a felon.

--

Not me, I'm voting for Ashley's dad.

Wait, nevermind.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (dF0kp)

225 Posted by: Sid at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (oDzRT)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)

226 And the best part is, they never expected it to even get *this* far. They legit thought, 92 indictments, he's toast - high fives all around.

Wait, no ? Uh... I guess we'll have to try these cases with the biggest bunch of bumbling morons ever gathered together. That should go well!!!

Posted by: deadrody at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (OeYsY)

227
Always easier to do a negative thing than positive as president. Refusing to collect money due is easier to do as prezzie

One of the ultimate powers Trump had when he was president was to shut down the IRS.

He should have used it.

Perhaps he'll consider it if he wins again to bring Congress to heal.

But consider...if you go even one year without income tax collection it would be impossible to start it up again....

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (ibTVg)

228 _________

Cute, but not up to Mannix standards. Can we have do over?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (mcBhk)

He's flexing his diversity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)

229 I still don't think you people are cynical enough. Except for M4P.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 12:49 PM (vFG9F)

230 An Ellipsis Administration would have 10 people in it and that would be about 3 times the size of the rest of the Federal Government.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:49 PM (9yFRo)

231 Didn't Cardi B used to be a hooker? I vaguely recall her offering some story where she would rob her johns.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (ibTVg)

Jay Z sold crack to school kids to fund his rap career.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)
_______

There seem to be two paths to rap stardom. One, be born privileged to wealthy parents and leverage that into a fake gangster persona. That's the Tupac path. The other path is be a really scumbaggy criminal or prostitute or THOT.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:49 PM (iFTx/)

232 I'm waiting for Mannix to start slipping AI generated images into the mix occasionally to see if people notice. I saw one of an Octoberfest beer maiden a week or so ago that was hard to tell was fake.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't be too sad, Steve Buscemi donated his acting talent to elect Biden at May 14, 2024 12:50 PM (dF0kp)

233 bullshit. They have a plan b, plan c and plan d.

illegals voting - plan B (or maybe A)
mail in ballot fraud - plan C
bird flu pandemic - plan D
use voting machines to switch votes - plan E

Posted by: Joe Kidsniffer at May 14, 2024 12:50 PM (3TalN)

234 SOMEONE WROTE A BOOK EXPLAINING THAT HE WAS ON A TEAM OF PROSECUTORS WHO WERE TASKED TO FIND A CRIME COMMITTED BY TRUMP AND THEN PROSECUTE HIM FOR IT: And the guy is amazed that other prosecutors, real ones not political hacks, thought this was bad.

Mark Pomerantz Revealed the Madness of the Trump Cases, While Trying to Do the Opposite

... this could be considered "conspiracy to deprive civil rights"

Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (RHGPo)

235 "Sloppy Daniels". True words.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (f87vz)

236 The manufactured prosecution of Trump isn’t working because the people who believe it (just read some Reddits) already “know” Trump is guilty - they need only invoke his name. Everyone else sees it for the extraordinary abuse it is.

The bad thing is, I believe there is indeed a Plan B, and we’ll probably see it later in the summer or early fall. They need massive security at the convention. Especially up high.

Posted by: Advo at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (jO4mz)

237 ...But...the screaming and unpleasantness never goes away...that's the con. Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (K+UlC)

I *want* them to experience much screaming and unpleasantness.

But not for the reasons they'd imagine, nor enjoy.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (e6UQI)

238 He's more concerned with how people he thinks are important perceive the court than with doing the right thing.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (Odg76)

...

If you spend the formative part of your life idolizing supreme court justices and then actually manage to become one, it probably messes with your head.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (z/ifB)

239 Trump becoming preezy again gives him too much access to their secrets, plus it will hurt our enemies who are getting handy remuneration right now. So I really don't think they have any intention of letting him back in.

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (9yFRo)

240 Usually true, but in this case you can google her. She's not fat. She's built like Kim Kardashian.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024

***
So, overweight then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

241 What these Democrat judges are doing fills me with contempt for the entire legal system and everyone in black robes. Every. Single. Fucking. One.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (4X4Y+)

242 "When I complained about it under Obama I was lectured often here that our GOP Leaders were merely "afraid" of being called "racist".

So... that was a lie."

Uhmmm, nevermind.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 12:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

243 last week the sidebar had snakehead kkkarville freaking out about this whole same issue. Normals have tuned out & are gonna do what they're gonna do.

this is the proper order of things, much beloved of the moon!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 14, 2024 12:52 PM (tQtDb)

244 229 I still don't think you people are cynical enough. Except for M4P.
Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 12:49 PM (vFG9F)

========

*hits the cynicism gym like Rocky hitting a frozen slab of meat*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

245 It's not a sure thing by any means, but letting Trump win has many upsides that the smarter people in the politburo will surely recognize. It deals with the Biden/Harris problem, they can hang the major economic event that's coming up (there will be one, and probably soon) around his neck, they can loudly assert, "see, there's no cheating and your faith in our institutions is well-founded," etc.

There are upsides to letting a popular opposition figure that they can contain - and they can largely contain him - into office to act as a pressure relief.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (d04cU)

It will split the donors with money (the Soro's Gates of the NGO world) who use and have fully invested in the hostage takers stratagem from the Party who absolutely need that hose of money to never be cut off - and I think the Party is smart enough not to let that split happen...

My guess is that they'll back the hostage taking stratagem. And. let's face it; they have given every indication right up to today that that is their strategy.

Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:52 PM (K+UlC)

246 Slowly, then all at once.
We have been lulled into a bizarro world where ...

George Orwell wrote 1984 to teach people a lesson about the negative things that could happen if they allowed their government to exercise total control. The totalitarian regime of Oceania is able to manipulate their citizens into believing anything, which allows them as much power as they could possibly want.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (t/2Uw)

247 Usually true, but in this case you can google her. She's not fat. She's built like Kim Kardashian.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2024 12:46 PM (iFTx/)
So, deformed freak>

Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (NxC5+)

248 They are gonna steal the election and use the power of the state to put a boot on the neck of any objectors. It is pretty obvious.

Posted by: Dr.Foo at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (glDyG)

249 But...the screaming and unpleasantness never goes away...that's the con. Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:32 PM (K+UlC)

Ah. So you're a married man.

Posted by: Marital bliss indeed at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (Wc83a)

250 So, overweight then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

huge azz

Posted by: BignJames at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (AwYPR)

251 The manufactured prosecution of Trump isn’t working because the people who believe it (just read some Reddits) already “know” Trump is guilty - they need only invoke his name. Everyone else sees it for the extraordinary abuse it is.

And if you press them on what Trump is really guilty of it is...trying to reverse the left's agenda. Which he *IS* 'guilty' of but is not actually a crime

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (ibTVg)

252 “Thick” is a PC way of saying “fat”.

“Curvy” is the same thing.

It's definitely used that way, but "thick" can also be descriptive of a particular body shape I find nice to look at. See Jen Widerstrom for example. She's got thick thighs, and she's hot as hell.

https://youtu.be/Ai_w0nMLeW0

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (Odg76)

253 Where are the "Good" judges? Why are they not screaming from the rooftops at what their fellow partisan hacks are doing to our legal system? Their silence speaks volumes. Hence my contempt.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (4X4Y+)

254 Their Plan B is to put him in a NY state prison.

There isn't a court in the entire state that will overturn a prison sentence.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (UULz4)

255 The plan is to let shitpants crater so they can say he "didn't do Our Democracy right", let Trump have four years for them to fuck things up even harder and say "This is Trump's America", and then shove in some queer barely-black Obama 2.0 that no one has ever heard of and continue the current conga line of geopolitical and sociological buttfuckery.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:54 PM (+yhUM)

256 I don't think it's any small thing that Trump came out in support of cryptocurrency.

I don't think you'll find a community more in-tune with "everything is a scam and the big guys are running it to f over the little guys" than crypto traders.

They see that ordinary people are locked out of every avenue to build wealth. With crypto trading being a low-barrier entry. While the Democrats (and Uniparty) have been faking up "concerns" about its lack of regulation.
Meaning: Control by the big guys; their donors.

One crypto guy has now pledged to raise $100 million for Trump.

PS: Big point of interest. Several crypto projects are aimed at allowing anonymous analysis of data. Say, like who are likely voters, who has voted, etc. That NSA can't spy on for Biden....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 12:55 PM (g9W3m)

257 Sooner or later some Dem is going to figure out that they have to get rid of Joe to win. We need to hope that it doesn't happen until it's too late to actually do it!

So that's why I don't mind all the Trump trials at all - it just helps the Dems keep pretending that they can beat him using rotten DAs and Judges, of which they have a bench that's a mile deep!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 14, 2024 12:55 PM (fvaUq)

258 Does the GOP have any plan?

I would expect the GOP to defend me as much as they defended Pres. Trump. Which is reason #4 why I left the gang that can't shoot straight.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 14, 2024 12:55 PM (Z8Yh2)

259 last week the sidebar had snakehead kkkarville freaking out about this whole same issue. Normals have tuned out & are gonna do what they're gonna do.

Again to go back to the local town election I keep talking about...they had 3X as many voters as they have ever had before and the tax increase went down in flames.

If the LIVs are motivated to vote in national elections...and it looks like maybe they are...it creates two problems;

1) A bunch more votes for Trump
2) A whole lot of people that are going to show up to vote only to be told they already voted by mail

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:55 PM (ibTVg)

260 My guess is that they'll back the hostage taking stratagem. And. let's face it; they have given every indication right up to today that that is their strategy.
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 12:52 PM (K+UlC)
++++
Entirely possible. I don't know, I can just see a reason for a different approach and am not ruling it out. Time - and not that much more of it - will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (d04cU)

261 To quote (or paraphrase) Admiral Joshua Painter, "Ivan doesn't take a shit without a plan"

The Democrats have plans, and fall-back plans.

Plan A, was, apparently, unending lawfare against Donald Trump. This might be falling apart. Jack Smith was not legally made a special prosecutor, and another appelate judge may disqualify him.

Plan B, was always steal the election, like they did in 2020. RFK Jr. kind of helps them, because although he will allegedly take votes from Joe Biden, a lot of his votes will mysteriously be FOR Joe Biden.
But it has to be close enough that a lot of people will believe that Joe actually was re-elected. That whole line of reasoning may be failing.

Plan C is to kill Donald Trump. I sort of don't expect Donald to be alive by the end of the summer. This is the country we live in now.

Posted by: A face in the crowd...... at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (vcOmj)

262 But, above all, FUD FUD FUD.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (+yhUM)

263 > If you spend the formative part of your life idolizing supreme court justices and then actually manage to become one, it probably messes with your head.

Imposter Syndrome is probably very common for people like that.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Odg76)

264 The late lamented Jeff MacNelly in his late lamented comic strip "Shoe"*:

"We have a case of the people's right to know running smack dab into the people's right not to care."

*The strip may still be published, but it doesn't deserve to be. Not "Shoe" without MacNelly.

Posted by: Weak Geek is posting only to get an even number of comments in the thread at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (dcvvm)

265 I think the other part is that they have nothing else. They have only one actual answer to any presented question. The economy? More of the same, only bigger. Crime? More of the same, only bigger. The border? More of the same, only bigger. Major social problems? More of the same only bigger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
......
I like to rag on the GOP as essentially dead as a political party because after the Cold War ended, its final rationale for existence died as well.

The Dems are in the same shape but rapidly getting worse because it always portrayed itself as a party of the 'outs'. Virtually all of their policy prescriptions date back to the Great Society era as do their heroes and those policies have been proven to be unpopular, failures, and scams in many cases. The only ones still holding the torch of liberalism circa 1974 are ironically the nepots, government workers, the media, upper middle class types with college degrees or higher, and universities.

The rest of their fraying coalitions are feeling the heat from policy failures and mistakes because they do not have the insulation that the above groups do.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (Z+tXy)

266
SecState and Ambassador to UN: Lizzy
SecDef: its me donna
Press Sec: Poppins (if he just wants to leave a fresh dump on the podium every day that's fine)
Attorney General: YD
Chief of Staff: whig
Secretary of Everything Else: Jordan
Secretary of Memes: andycanuck

Posted by: ... at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (9yFRo)

267 United States Election Assistance Commission

Electronic Poll Books (EPBs), Thursday, March 14, 2024

In Pennsylvania and in how many other swing states? (Add 'em to the next Plan.)

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (NFX2v)

268 233 bullshit. They have a plan b, plan c and plan d.

illegals voting - plan B (or maybe A)
mail in ballot fraud - plan C
bird flu pandemic - plan D
use voting machines to switch votes - plan E

Posted by: Joe Kidsniffer at May 14, 2024 12:50 PM (3TalN)

There's only One Plan. It contains plans A through E, running them simultaneously. Other components of One Plan are also running, right now, but we won't know about them until they bear fruit; the July Surprise, September Surpise, October Surprises. Such as more indictments, women coming forward weeping on MSNBC with their stories of sexual shenanigans Trump inflicted on them, Russia, Russia, Russia II, and other junk.

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (5fDan)

269
Imposter Syndrome is probably very common for people like that.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Odg76)

As in, Imposter, Sweden......

Posted by: Stupid Media Guy at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

270
Trump jailed, ruled ineligible to run for Prez
Bird Flu lockdown
Zelenski surrenders
Dollar collapses

Lots of squares open on the Bingo card of Presidential Doom.

Posted by: Auspex at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (j4U/Z)

271 219 I don't think it's exactly hanging with the cool kids. I think Roberts really REALLY cares about the stature of SCOTUS, and he wants his tenure to reflect the majesty or some other lofty crap like that.

It's a similar mindset to the one you mentioned, and in effect it's the same. He's more concerned with how people he thinks are important perceive the court than with doing the right thing.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:44 PM (Odg76)

I get what you are saying. But, as he is inside the Beltway, I have always suspected that he’s really scared of being dropped from the cocktail circuit or being invited to hand out with Those That Matter. And both motivations can be parallel to each other.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 14, 2024 12:47 PM (84PaW)

It may not be his preference and it’s certainly not his fault, but Roberts is the Chief Justice at a time of major strife if not internecine war. He can’t cut the baby in half, and he won’t take the high road of enforcing the constitution. That’s the only way he can be perceived as anything other than a failure, but he won’t do it because he will be personally exposed if he does.

Posted by: Advo at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (jO4mz)

272 Trump will win. My interest is in how he will do things differently, which he must. Does he or will he have a plan?

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (rIQxo)

273 I think the other part is that they have nothing else. They have only one actual answer to any presented question. The economy? More of the same, only bigger. Crime? More of the same, only bigger. The border? More of the same, only bigger. Major social problems? More of the same only bigger.

This is one of the fascinating things about our current elite.

For as much as they pride themselves on being "sciency" they are the most dogmatic people you will ever meet where there is no data that can prove whatever policies they prefer are not working.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (ibTVg)

274 I can't believe that there are voters who would consider a man that gets to be age 77 with no criminal past whatsoever and all of sudden he has 91 indictments and is liable for 700 years in prison and that the voters will think this is a normal circumstance.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (MeG8a)

275 Whoops. Sig left over from Book Thread.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 14, 2024 12:59 PM (dcvvm)

276 Imposter Syndrome is probably very common for people like that.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Odg76)

Sounds sus.

Posted by: Fungus among us at May 14, 2024 12:59 PM (Wc83a)

277 A John Roberts is on the Epstein flight logs.

And the former national reporter guy had a public alibi for the flights listed...

So if not the SC justice which Roberts was getting erotic teen massages on Epstein island?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:59 PM (ibTVg)

278 And if you press them on what Trump is really guilty of it is...trying to reverse the left's agenda. Which he *IS* 'guilty' of but is not actually a crime
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (ibTVg)
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In Leftist world, that's a capital offense.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 14, 2024 12:59 PM (7fElN)

279 Projection is the Left’s innate mental defect that they put to good use as a political tool. It is frustrating and time consuming to defend. It’s like debating with an insane person who continues to say 2+2 = 5 no matter what proof you give them that they are wrong.

There is no diplomatic solution.

Posted by: polynikes at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (MNhXM)

280 Jack Smith is the front guy, the Face. Period.

There's other stacked & working behind him.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (NFX2v)

281 re 186: nah, like kennedy only sloppier

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (B1FKF)

282 274 I can't believe that there are voters who would consider a man that gets to be age 77 with no criminal past whatsoever and all of sudden he has 91 indictments and is liable for 700 years in prison and that the voters will think this is a normal circumstance.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 14, 2024 12:58 PM (MeG8a)

He wasn't so criminally inclined when he was still a good Democrat.

See? Republicans are all criminals.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (+yhUM)

283 "Trump transmitted nuclear secrets to Putin in that ping from Alfa bank."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

284 Are these the:
1. Pre-Burning times
2. Burning Times
3. Ash Kicking times?

Discuss.
Posted by: Joe Mama
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4. Morris Day

Posted by: And The Time at May 14, 2024 01:00 PM (xakd3)

285 Ah. So you're a married man.
Posted by: Marital bliss indeed at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (Wc83a)

Married life is often the inverse of the hostage taker's stratagem - everyone prior to marriage wears a pleasant and socially required mask in order to achieve success.

Its only after acquiescence from both sides has been achieved through pleasant norms, ie a marriage between parties has been consummated, that's when the real hostage taking begins!

Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2024 01:01 PM (K+UlC)

286 "253 Where are the "Good" judges? Why are they not screaming from the rooftops at what their fellow partisan hacks are doing to our legal system? Their silence speaks volumes. Hence my contempt.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 14, 2024 12:53 PM (4X4Y+)"

buried next to all the ham&egger fibbies

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 14, 2024 01:01 PM (tQtDb)

287 Cross-examination of Michael Cohen will begin@ 2:15 PM ET.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 14, 2024 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

288 Oh yeah, and RFK, Jr looks like he's going to get in the ballot in all 50 states.

Which is where "Trump is ahead in the polls" is huge.

There is some, unknown number of actual votes needed to launder the fraud.
If "Trump's gonna win, might as well vote for RFK" is in minds, that limit gets real close. And they probably will blow laughably past it in desperation.
But worse, he has no incentive to not demand audits. Or abandon it like the Green Party.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 14, 2024 01:02 PM (g9W3m)

289 58 The moment Trump is found guilty (you know it’s coming) everything gets real. I don’t trust people; too large a portion of the general population is stupid. A guilty verdict will take a lot of LIVs who now might well vote for Trump away… because they’ll say to themselves: I can’t vote for a convicted felon! I’d predict the polls will change and Trump will be behind. Hope I’m wrong
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Not necessarily. Other countries have had similar show trials and ended up losing anyway. The problem for the Dems like it was for the GOP is that the case in NY is about sex between two adults that was not appropriate (assuming something did happen) and far too many people have skeletons in their closet on that one.

The left (and there is a reason) also do not understand evangelism and redemption for sinners because they are essentially like Stan, their hero--they simply double down on all their sins instead of seeking redemption.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 01:02 PM (Z+tXy)

290 Found a version of the pAntifa meets pan video that's not age restricted.

https://youtu.be/UVN_zrY931g

Winning.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

291 Actually i changed my mind the real Plan is that they'll have RFKJr shot and frame Trump for it.

Yeah.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 01:03 PM (+yhUM)

292 An assumption not backed by Russia's activity over the last 20 or so years. Easy to say and perhaps hope, not justified by the facts on the ground. Germany was willing to gut its entire industrial footprint because they finally realized what Russia was about.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 14, 2024 12:28 PM (GZYu7)

Okay. Russia, which sold Europe oil/gas. Russia, which did nothing as NATO moved ever eastward despite solemn promises that it wouldn't. Russia, which had a peace agreement worked out with Ukraine until NATO countries convinced them to rip it up.

That Russia. Okay, Russia is evil and will always be the bad guys in every narrative. Got it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (U7wke)

293 291 Actually i changed my mind the real Plan is that they'll have RFKJr shot and frame Trump for it.

Yeah.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 01:03 PM (+yhUM)

========

It's weird that their plan is never, "Do what the voters want and try to make life better for all Americans," huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

294 So, overweight then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 12:51 PM (J2vNu)

huge azz
Posted by: BignJames at May 14, 2024

***
The ex-Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 had a well-developed tuchus. Hers was like the description Fleming gives us of Tatiana's behind in From Russia With Love: noticeable in pants and jeans, and developed nicely from roller skating. But her waist was slim, as was the rest of her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (J2vNu)

295 ... The rest of their fraying coalitions are feeling the heat from policy failures and mistakes because they do not have the insulation that the above groups do.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (Z+tXy)
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Which might not matter. The made the most important alliance of all after the Cold War, when the two parties merged under Democrat dominance and it finished its full takeover of the state.

Do their popular (or unpopular, as the case may be) coalitions matter anymore? This is no longer a republic, it's a Party-controlled oligarchy. Eventually failure will matter (they can't keep the plates spinning) but until then, the breakdown of wider coalitions might not matter much because whoever wins, the Party wins, at least at the national level.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (d04cU)

296 It's weird that their plan is never, "Do what the voters want and try to make life better for all Americans," huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

How the hell is *that* going to accomplish anything?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 01:04 PM (+yhUM)

297 nood manchen

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

298 It's weird that their plan is never, "Do what the voters want and try to make life better for all Americans," huh?

Nominally at least this was the Dem's platform...make things better for "the little people" through Clinton.

Since then it has morphed to formally and intentionally making life worse for those people. Objectively there is not a damn thing done under Biden that has helped a member of the American working class since he was installed.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 01:06 PM (ibTVg)

299 There's only One Plan. It contains plans A through E, running them simultaneously. Other components of One Plan are also running, right now, but we won't know about them until they bear fruit; the July Surprise, September Surpise, October Surprises. Such as more indictments, women coming forward weeping on MSNBC with their stories of sexual shenanigans Trump inflicted on them, Russia, Russia, Russia II, and other junk.
Posted by: Gref
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It's all been done. What you are describing is not a plan but literally throwing shit on the walls to see what sticks.

The problem is that each idiocy exposed actually makes your opponent stronger and your own position weaker. I can give you song and verse regarding other authoritarian governments and the treatment of the dissident (in this case Trump).

I think you are correct in that the media is windmilling desperately as are the Dem comm folks but like the original definition of glamour--the enchantment fades leaving the enthralled people pissed off from seeing reality.

Posted by: whig at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (Z+tXy)

300 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

301 Re gas pump guy.
He didn't wipe.
That's all I got.

Posted by: torabora at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (G23G9)

302 Reportedly, John Roberts begged and pleaded with his fellow justices to let the election cases fall in 2020 because it would return things to normal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 12:33 PM (GBKbO)

If this is true (and it's certainly plausible) he should have stepped down.
There is no place for a Chief Justice that feels this way.

Posted by: Inogame at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (53oGX)

303 @246 totalitarian groupthink is a hard trend for a lot of people to buck. They are perfectly content living in the matrix.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (ZpWmh)

304 302 If this is true (and it's certainly plausible) he should have stepped down.
There is no place for a Chief Justice that feels this way.
Posted by: Inogame at May 14, 2024 01:07 PM (53oGX)

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This is the dude who invented a tax in the ACA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 14, 2024 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

305 It's definitely used that way, but "thick" can also be descriptive of a particular body shape I find nice to look at. See Jen Widerstrom for example. She's got thick thighs, and she's hot as hell.

https://youtu.be/Ai_w0nMLeW0
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2024

***
She's compact and sturdy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 01:08 PM (J2vNu)

306 246 totalitarian groupthink is a hard trend for a lot of people to buck. They are perfectly content living in the matrix.

This is one of the problems with the Junta exploding inflation. It is hard for even the biggest bubblehead to notice they can no longer afford groceries.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2024 01:09 PM (ibTVg)

307 Mark Pomerantz published People vs. Donald Trump last year to describe his role as a special assistant district attorney in Manhattan, trying to prosecute the former president, and to complain about an initial decision in the DA’s office not to file charges. I didn’t notice it until I saw Pomerantz taking the fifth over and over again in response to recent questions about his behavior during the investigation, but I bought a copy this week — a used copy, to avoid sending money to Mark Pomerantz.
https://chrisbray.substack. com/p/mark-pomerantz-revealed-the-madness

Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2024 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

308
It's weird that their plan is never, "Do what the voters want and try to make life better for all Americans," huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Those people in Washington, Dem or Republican, are up there to make money, wield power, and get amusement from screwing us all over.
There are exceptions, but they mouth pious platitudes to cover for their venality.

And even if Trump is elected, it really won't fix much. It may just slow down the juggernaut. He can't or won't do enough to fix the outrageous budget deficit.

Don't place your hopes and aspirations in politics, politicians and elections, because you will always end up being disillusioned and betrayed.

Posted by: Another precinct heard from..... at May 14, 2024 01:11 PM (vcOmj)

309
There's only One Plan. It contains plans A through E, running them simultaneously. Other components of One Plan are also running, right now, but we won't know about them until they bear fruit; the July Surprise, September Surpise, October Surprises. Such as more indictments, women coming forward weeping on MSNBC with their stories of sexual shenanigans Trump inflicted on them, Russia, Russia, Russia II, and other junk.
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2024 12:57 PM (5fDan)
It would not surprise me if they destroyed a sizable US city as an excuse to halt the election 'process'.

Posted by: Eromero at May 14, 2024 01:15 PM (NxC5+)

310 It's weird that their plan is never, "Do what the voters want and try to make life better for all Americans," huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Those people in Washington, Dem or Republican, are up there to make money, wield power, and get amusement from screwing us all over.

Posted by: Another precinct heard from

Think of how much money they could make and power they could wield if they made Americans happy.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2024 01:16 PM (gMj+h)

311 It would not surprise me if they destroyed a sizable US city as an excuse to halt the election 'process'.
Posted by: Eromero

That would require a level of conspiracy quietness untold levels above and beyond the JFK assassination.

Because yes, flyover America would burn DC to the ground, with all it's inhabitants, over something like that.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2024 01:20 PM (gMj+h)

312 LOL!
This is not all they got.
They are getting ready to use unattended ballot boxes again for the upcoming election. They will steal this one just like last time and then it will be too late to do anything about it, again, just like last time. Don't stop doing what works.

Posted by: Gomjabber at May 14, 2024 02:34 PM (gx8aE)

313 Minimal political fallout is not the result of voter disdain and frustration over Democrat continuous lawfare but failure to address fundamental issues affecting Americans. No, the result will be a maximum political fallout rebounding against the perpetrators of the lawfare and failure to address real issues; in addition to surrendering one war, while creating two others, and destroying our trusted ally in the MidEast.
There are consequences to political meddling in geopolitical events, and the Democrats seem to think they are immune from any type of blowback.

Posted by: william ferrin at May 14, 2024 02:43 PM (tj6vH)

314 The Lefts Plan B is assassination. That should happen if no conviction, the Secret service has been hired to do it, bank it

Posted by: Matthew at May 14, 2024 02:59 PM (DpMY2)

315 Leftists don't want anyone who opposes the New World Order whats the real meaning of the Novus Ordo Seclorum and the Pyramid and the back of the Dollar Bill?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 14, 2024 04:20 PM (wGqjj)

316 The Left is creating the ground work for a civil war. No one will win such a war, and no one knows how it will turn out. Look at what the revolutionaries predicted for the French Resolution or the Russian Revolution and what they got ten years later.

One thing is sure, beware the wrath of a patient man who has nothing left to lose.

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