Daily Tech News 14 May 2024

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Dell spilled all the beans, leaking details of the next four generations of Intel's laptop CPUs and some future Nvidia GPUs as well. (Tom's Hardware)

They're pretty boring beans, but Dell spilled them anyway.
Dell also spilled Qualcomm's beans, including wholesale pricing. (Tom's Hardware)

The upcoming X Elite Arm-based CPUs will have similar performance to Intel's current laptop chips, use half the power, and even better, cost half as much.

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What do we want? Mmff mff! When do we want it ? Myow. (Wired) (archive site)

AI protesters don't know what they want, except to protest.
Apple's 2024 iPad Air is pretty good. Don't buy it. (The Verge)

If you need a new iPad, buy the iPad. It's two years old, but it's cheap (ish) and it does what you need a tablet to do.

If someone else is paying, get the iPad Pro, because why not?

And if you already have a tablet that works, there's no reason to upgrade at all.

Vtuber Music Video of the Day

Today it's Haachama. She's a bit confused but she has the right spirit.

Disclaimer: Also an honorary Aussie, having completed high school here and eaten the local wildlife.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:11 AM

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1 First.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:12 AM (ju2Fy)

2 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes. Evening, Pixy

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:12 AM (ju2Fy)

3 Nooded.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:13 AM (ju2Fy)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 04:13 AM (T4tVD)

5 Today it's Haachama

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 04:14 AM (T4tVD)

6 Tomorrow it's Jicama.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:22 AM (ju2Fy)

7 G'Day everyone
Lunch packed, breakfast over except coffee

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 04:29 AM (fwDg9)

8 Evening and morning to all you early risers and late toilers! 'Tis Tuesday, a meh day for most of us; one day closer to the weekend, but not close enough that we can see it on the horizon.

SanFranPsycho was nice enough to ask yesterday if I were recovered from my bug bite or whatever it was. Well . . . it warn't no bug bite. It's . . . shingles! Yes, the gift that keeps on giving. The Urgent Care doctor took one look, asked if I'd had chickenpox as a kid ("Yes," said I), and nodded. "Shingles. Mild, but that's it."

She prescribed a course of Valtrex, that anti-viral we saw in herpes ads in the early oughts. I'm having trouble getting it from the true idiots at the Walgreens near me, who make a fetish of hiring the stupidest and most arrogant employees in the area. In the meantime, some calamine lotion is going on, and I'm enduring.

Howz about you?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 04:31 AM (omVj0)

9 Tomorrow it's Jicama.
Posted by: olddog in mo

Jivecamera ?

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 04:31 AM (T4tVD)

10 Why does every day, week, month, year, century have to be something...Why not a day for the little people, who do the dirty work that no one wants to do.

Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2024 04:32 AM (/z/eU)

11 Ah, here comes the thunder. Can rain be far behind.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 04:33 AM (omVj0)

12 Already raining here. Gonna rain all week. Got the Ark parked out back fully gassed.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:34 AM (ju2Fy)

13 G'Day everyone
Lunch packed, breakfast over except coffee
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 04:29 AM (fwDg9)

JEEPERS !

Are you in some kinda contest ?

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 04:35 AM (T4tVD)

14 Having a little bit more coffee before I head off to shave and shower. The Killer Kittens From Outer Space are doing well; Stirling the great black is curled on the carpet, and little Dagny is . . . well, she *was* here by the lamp. Dunno where she's gotten off to. She doesn't check in with me when she wants to do something.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 04:37 AM (omVj0)

15 AI protesters don't know what they want, except to protest.

Couple of the PauseAI organizers have "been worried about the consequences of AI after reading Superintelligence, a 2014 book by philosopher Nick Bostrom that popularized the idea that very advanced AI systems could pose a risk to human existence altogether."

Nick Bostrom? Never heard of him.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:43 AM (ju2Fy)

16 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 14, 2024 04:43 AM (sAmhv)

17 'Bostrom's ideas have been influential in the "effective altruism" community, a broad social movement that includes adherents of long-termism: the idea that influencing the long-term future should be a moral priority of humans today.'

What could go wrong?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:44 AM (ju2Fy)

18 Ah, there's Dagny: prowling about as if looking for prey, or entertainment at least.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 04:48 AM (omVj0)

19 Marxism always needs a goal that can't be reached but drive that campaign on until another appears

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 04:48 AM (fwDg9)

20 17 'Bostrom's ideas have been influential in the "effective altruism" community, a broad social movement that includes adherents of long-termism: the idea that influencing the long-term future should be a moral priority of humans today.'

What could go wrong?
Posted by: olddog in mo

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. "

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 14, 2024 04:49 AM (sAmhv)

21 15 Couple of the PauseAI organizers have "been worried about the consequences of AI after reading Superintelligence, a 2014 book by philosopher Nick Bostrom that popularized the idea that very advanced AI systems could pose a risk to human existence altogether."

Nick Bostrom? Never heard of him.

I have. He's a catastrophe fetishist. His entire career has been dreaming up ever grander disasters that will definitely wipe out the human race.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 14, 2024 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

22 ...protest movements can influence the trajectory of new technologies. He points out that pushback against genetically modified organisms was instrumental in turning Europe off of the technology in the 1990s. The same is true of nuclear power. It's not that these movements necessarily had the right ideas, he says, but they prove that popular protests can stymie the march even of technologies that promise low-carbon power or more bountiful crops.

Winning????

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 04:55 AM (ju2Fy)

23 Hello, forum folks

My son is beginning a paid internship today in PA. If the praying people could say a prayer that all go well today it would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 04:59 AM (yGivg)

24 Okay Fen !

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 05:01 AM (T4tVD)

25 Hitting the road, early again, maybe get my time back later in the week
Forward Dog 9 out

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2024 05:03 AM (fwDg9)

26 Have a good one and stay safe Skip !

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 05:04 AM (T4tVD)

27 Nick Bostrom? Never heard of him.

I have. He's a catastrophe fetishist. His entire career has been dreaming up ever grander disasters that will definitely wipe out the human race.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 14, 2024 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

Like the Thag-O-Mizer ?

Posted by: JT at May 14, 2024 05:05 AM (T4tVD)

28 I'm surprised your VTuber section didn't mention Kirsche getting blacklisted from a panel at an upcoming convention.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 14, 2024 05:07 AM (qnMfF)

29 A refuge. a help. A devotional on Psalm 46:1-7

https://tinyurl.com/2ucpr4u6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 05:13 AM (92RGD)

30 Prayers up Fen!

Morning all!

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:17 AM (1fCnU)

31 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 04:59 AM (yGivg)

Congrats, Fen! Done.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 14, 2024 05:20 AM (YRsIm)

32 "What do we want? Mmff mff! When do we want it ? Myow. (Wired) (archive site)

AI protesters don't know what they want, except to protest."

They are protesting until they can receive a protest-life balance.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:21 AM (1fCnU)

33 Thank you, dear ones.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 05:24 AM (MrVey)

34 My neighbor who is 23 just graduated from college. He did the internship for mechanical engineering. It worked out great for him and one of the companies hired him right away. And he got offers from other companies. Plus he was paid during his internship. And the graduation went off with no demonstrations for Gaza or anything. Unlike the local university where some of the students voiced their hatred of Jews.

Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2024 05:24 AM (/z/eU)

35 They are protesting until they can receive a protest-life balance.
Posted by: Bruce
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Won't they need a union to secure that?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 14, 2024 05:33 AM (ju2Fy)

36 10 Why does every day, week, month, year, century have to be something...Why not a day for the little people, who do the dirty work that no one wants to do.
Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2024 04:32 AM (/z/eU)

Labor Day?

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:34 AM (o3SCB)

37 Won't they need a union to secure that?
Posted by: olddog in mo

Shhhhh...they haven't figured out that part yet.
Wait until they have to pay union dues.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:34 AM (1fCnU)

38 WTF was the video?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 05:36 AM (ENQN6)

39 A first world problem here.

The new house has a new dishwasher. When was it decided that the controls need to be on top of the door so that when you close it, you can't see the little flashing light telling you that it's not gonna run until you push another button?

Put it on the front so I can see it! Make it beep as loud as the microwave does just in case I wander off for the minute it's reheating a cup of coffee.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:39 AM (1fCnU)

40 WTF was the video?
Posted by: rhennigantx

I'm trying to figure our what she sings between verses.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:40 AM (1fCnU)

41 34 My neighbor who is 23 just graduated from college. He did the internship for mechanical engineering. It worked out great for him and one of the companies hired him right away. And he got offers from other companies. Plus he was paid during his internship. And the graduation went off with no demonstrations for Gaza or anything. Unlike the local university where some of the students voiced their hatred of Jews.
Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2024 05:24 AM (/z/eU)

Like in the olden days! The 70s; and the 80s, maybe.

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:43 AM (o3SCB)

42 Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:39 AM (1fCnU)

*steps off Bruce's lawn*

Better yet, make the buttons have some tactile feel in lieu of just a light.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 14, 2024 05:43 AM (YRsIm)

43 Israel Independence here.

Wings and drumsticks already grilled.

Kids and grands arriving soon. Then I put up the franks and burgers.

Beer and cold drinks are chilled.

BD Jr. is in Gaza and one SIL is up north. I'll eat and drink for them.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 14, 2024 05:43 AM (PI/SC)

44 32 "What do we want? Mmff mff! When do we want it ? Myow. (Wired) (archive site)

AI protesters don't know what they want, except to protest."

They are protesting until they can receive a protest-life balance.
Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:21 AM (1fCnU)

Doesn't leave much time for work.

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:45 AM (o3SCB)

45 Better yet, make the buttons have some tactile feel in lieu of just a light.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

COJ for president!!

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:47 AM (1fCnU)

46 “The group also wants all UN member states to sign a treaty that sets up an international AI safety agency with responsibility for granting new deployments of AI systems and training runs of large models”

Of course they do.

Posted by: 13times at May 14, 2024 05:47 AM (VXwZh)

47 Doesn't leave much time for work.
Posted by: m

I think we have a winner!

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:48 AM (1fCnU)

48 Posted by: Colin at May 14, 2024 05:24 AM (/z/eU)

Glad to hear the good news about the young man, and i know that parents are pleased- as we were- that things were calm and peaceful at our son's university and others for graduation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 05:48 AM (+PHes)

49 AI systems and training runs of large models”

Of course they do.
Posted by: 13times

Large models? Like Lizzo large?

Get her running and the seismographs are going to go wild.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:49 AM (1fCnU)

50 39 A first world problem here.

The new house has a new dishwasher. When was it decided that the controls need to be on top of the door so that when you close it, you can't see the little flashing light telling you that it's not gonna run until you push another button?

Put it on the front so I can see it! Make it beep as loud as the microwave does just in case I wander off for the minute it's reheating a cup of coffee.

GET OFF MY LAWN!
Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:39 AM (1fCnU)

Has the dishwasher been fitted under a countertop and wasn't supposed to have been?

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:50 AM (o3SCB)

51 >> The new house has a new dishwasher. When was it decided that the controls need

Modern appliances are crap. Give me the old electromechanical controls any day. This new microprocessor controlled shit is just that, shit.

Now, you have one of those fancy microprocessor controlled dishwasher under the counter. Someone makes a mistake, and doesn't put the coffee pot under the coffee maker, and lets coffee water start overlflowing, and running down the counter....

On top of the dishwasher door. It gets inside the touch button sensors on top of the dishwasher door.

One has to take the door apart and dry it out.....

That happened here last year.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 14, 2024 05:51 AM (w6EFb)

52 Good morning morons

Enjoy BD יום עצמאות שמח

Bruce, your dishwasher may project a light onto the floor indicating it is operating, check in the dark...

Wolfus, shingles is often stress-induced and you are coping with a lot of impending changes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:51 AM (RIvkX)

53 43 Israel Independence here.

Wings and drumsticks already grilled.

Kids and grands arriving soon. Then I put up the franks and burgers.

Beer and cold drinks are chilled.

BD Jr. is in Gaza and one SIL is up north. I'll eat and drink for them.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 14, 2024 05:43 AM (PI/SC)

Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:53 AM (o3SCB)

54 Fen, he will be fine, try not to worry.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:53 AM (RIvkX)

55 Has the dishwasher been fitted under a countertop and wasn't supposed to have been?
Posted by: m

No, it's designed to be under the counter. We have had them at VRBO's we stayed at. I didn't realize that they are a pita until now.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 05:54 AM (1fCnU)

56 Attractive young couple sings a praise song, " On eagle's wings"

https://tinyurl.com/3jy8rpzu

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 05:54 AM (+PHes)

57 46 “The group also wants all UN member states to sign a treaty that sets up an international AI safety agency with responsibility for granting new deployments of AI systems and training runs of large models”

Of course they do.
Posted by: 13times at May 14, 2024 05:47 AM (VXwZh)

Perfect reponse.

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:55 AM (o3SCB)

58 11 Ah, here comes the thunder. Can rain be far behind?

I woke last night to the sound of thunder, how far off I sat and wondered.

Posted by: 13times at May 14, 2024 05:55 AM (nK3TT)

59 reponse-->response
I am currently under-caffeinated.

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 05:56 AM (o3SCB)

60 I have a FWP. Rats are helping themselves at our bird feeder. Any ideas for deterrence?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:57 AM (RIvkX)

61 Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:53 AM (RIvkX)

Thanks. I thought that was sort of wired into parents to some degree- to worry at the start of a kid's new job. 😉 There are about three other interns as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 05:57 AM (p6nka)

62 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 14, 2024 05:43 AM (PI/SC)

Happy Independence Day, and best wishes for your kid and relative in 'far away' places. I admire your resolve. Having a kid at the battlefront just a a day's drive away has to be stressful, to say the least.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 14, 2024 05:57 AM (YRsIm)

63 Bruce, your dishwasher may project a light onto the floor indicating it is operating, check in the dark...

Posted by: San Franpsycho

It does have a blue light on the front, but it just goes on when you close the door. The one of the control buttons will flash, but is under the counter and if you're 6'8" like I am, you can't see them unless you look to see why the goofy thing isn't running.

I hate stretching exercises first thing in the morning.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:02 AM (1fCnU)

64 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 04:31 AM (omVj0)

Sorry about the Shingles. Hope you get the correct meds from the Walgreens. FenSpouse is feeling much better after having the treatment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024 06:03 AM (Db0Hd)

65 Blinken said the United States wants Israeli forces to "get out of Gaza" amid what he described as "a horrible loss of life of innocent civilians." He also said Israel’s tactics in the war have failed to neutralize Hamas and could create a power "vacuum" in the Palestinian territory.

So he wants the old Hamasistan.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:03 AM (ENQN6)

66 60 I have a FWP. Rats are helping themselves at our bird feeder. Any ideas for deterrence?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:57 AM (RIvkX)

Get a cat

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:04 AM (ENQN6)

67 Good morning, all. Feeling like hell today so I elected to stay home. I don't think it's Chinese Lung AIDS (Already dealt with that last year) but I'd rather not spend my work shift coughing and going through a box of Kleenex.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 14, 2024 06:05 AM (kUUkk)

68 65 Blinken said the United States wants Israeli forces to "get out of Gaza"

More accurately: Blinken says the US wants Israelis to die off like they should have in the 40s so we can finally have world peace.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 14, 2024 06:06 AM (kUUkk)

69 I have a FWP. Rats are helping themselves at our bird feeder. Any ideas for deterrence?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

If they are climbing the poles to get in a, squirrel guard might help.

If you can't get a squirrel guard, WD40 sprayed on the pole will deter them until their fur soaks up the oil.

It will also provide amusement for a while.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:06 AM (1fCnU)

70 Wolfus, shingles is often stress-induced and you are coping with a lot of impending changes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:51 AM (RIvkX)

My experience - Spider bites typically blister slightly and then the area around the bite turn a blue, black, yellow bruised color. (Twice on the belly after working in confined spaces in old homes.)

I had a sore spot on my back and hurt like hell. It was shingles.That was 15 years ago and it never recurred.

Posted by: 13times at May 14, 2024 06:07 AM (RMy83)

71 Everything I need to know about the dangers of AI I learned from “Colossus: The Forbin Project”

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at May 14, 2024 06:11 AM (JRP2U)

72 They climbed up and down the pole with speed and alacrity.

Mrs. F. is very displeased.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:11 AM (RIvkX)

73 I have a FWP. Rats are helping themselves at our bird feeder. Any ideas for deterrence?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

A raccoon baffle might be a better choice. There are various kinds. Work very well.

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:15 AM (1fCnU)

74 Wolfus, shingles is often stress-induced and you are coping with a lot of impending changes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024

***
That's what I've been telling Miss Linda . . . but I'm not sure she comprehends stress any more than Stirling does. At least not the kind of stresses on me right now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 06:17 AM (omVj0)

75 Strap one of those dog “cone of shame” things to the pole? A piece of slick tin like Hawaiians attach to palm tree trunks to keep rodents from getting into the fronds?

Posted by: 13times at May 14, 2024 06:18 AM (pyb5y)

76 Any ideas for deterrence?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Pellet gun?

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at May 14, 2024 06:20 AM (JRP2U)

77
Sorry about the Shingles. Hope you get the correct meds from the Walgreens. FenSpouse is feeling much better after having the treatment.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2024

***
Thanks, Fen. According to their automated system, the Rx is supposed to be ready by 11:30 today (which is unconscionable to start with). I can't pick it up until about 5:00. I'll call the auto system again this afternoon, and if it's still not ready, I'll have the Urgent Care dr. send it to my usual CVS in Target. Which is staffed by humans -- knowledgeable, friendly ones.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 06:20 AM (omVj0)

78

~~Tomorrow~~ Later today looks like it might be a very interesting day.

In refreshing my YouTube page an hour ago, I noticed a sizable increase in the number of YouTube videos dealing with the IDF operations in Gaza, specifically indicating that The End of Hamas is Near. I also note that the overall feel of these videos is that of something like a "stream-of-conscious dump"; not deceptive, but not quite sufficiently informed.

The claim is that Sinwar has been located, and the IDF is currently moving in troops for a catch.

There's also a claim that Egypt is moving troops to the Gaza Border, as there are tunnels that might allow Hamas operatives to move in to Egypt and perhaps try to engineer a conflict with Israel.

The impression I get is that Sinwar should be captured "soon", perhaps less than 24 hours.

I wonder if the lunchtime news will have any major updates.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 14, 2024 06:21 AM (FlRtG)

79 It does have a blue light on the front, but it just goes on when you close the door. The one of the control buttons will flash, but is under the counter and if you're 6'8" like I am, you can't see them unless you look to see why the goofy thing isn't running.k

Is your dishwasher a Whirlpool by chance?

The controls on my Whirlpool are on top of the door and under the counter. This design decision is a complete pain in the ass. On the other hand, the blue light that then turns a red light and then to a white light is okay.

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 14, 2024 06:24 AM (k13a0)

80 Time to emulate Skip and hit the road. Some work chores to do today. Tomorrow, if I'm not under the weather, I'll take off in the morning so I'll be fresh for the dinner our department is holding. Thursday I'm off, and Friday my boss has said we can work from home -- which in my case means a 90-minute Zoom staff meeting, and pretty much that'll be it.

Obviously I need the rest.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 14, 2024 06:25 AM (omVj0)

81
Most popular President ever:
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1790064880134808042

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 06:26 AM (RKVpM)

82
Barefootin' in Australia:
https://twitter.com/CensoredMen/status/1790119859419799794

They must have really clean streets there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 06:28 AM (RKVpM)

83 Is your dishwasher a Whirlpool by chance?

The controls on my Whirlpool are on top of the door and under the counter. This design decision is a complete pain in the ass. On the other hand, the blue light that then turns a red light and then to a white light is okay.
Posted by: Lost in Space

Yes, a Whirlpool. I just have blue lights though. You must have the fancy model..😄

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:30 AM (1fCnU)

84 39 A first world problem here.

The new house has a new dishwasher. When was it decided that the controls need to be on top of the door so that when you close it, you can't see the little flashing light telling you that it's not gonna run until you push another button?

Our Wirlpool dishwasher is about three years old and has that design. All the touch-panel controls are on the top edge of the door. That location is fine for ease of use when closed but when the door is all the way down for loading the controls are aimed right at your calves/ankles and are so easy to activate that even slightly brushing up against the control panel causes button hits which must be cancelled out once you close the doof and realize what’s happened.

It doesn’t take a genius to realize that’s a terrible location for controls and had to have been noticed by the design engineers in testing but was done anyway to save on manufacturing costs, I’m sure of it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 14, 2024 06:34 AM (6ydKt)

85 Does anyone know of a really narrow rubberized stylus? I've got some that have tips the size of pencil erasers, but I need one much narrower than that--about the size of a tip of a pencil.

I've tried other hard plastic ones and they don't work, and the big ones just aren't precise enough.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2024 06:34 AM (BxvY+)

86 It doesn’t take a genius to realize that’s a terrible location for controls and had to have been noticed by the design engineers in testing but was done anyway to save on manufacturing costs, I’m sure of it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Maybe it's the only way to squeeze in all the controls for the settings you never use.

Sanitize? What, hot water and soap aren't enough now?

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:40 AM (1fCnU)

87 Pixy, if you're still here, the front page is crashing on an iPhone again. Loads and loads, then crashes. You have to click thru to the comments quick, where that isn't happening...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 14, 2024 06:41 AM (2PMed)

88 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Just found out this morning that nurse ratched had an appendectomy on Saturday. I wish I'd known, but I have to stay off AoS most of the week to keep from complete despair.

Anyway, must work. Will chat later, if I have time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 06:42 AM (Q0kLU)

89 Very Detailed Findings in Fulton County Research:
20,713 ballots with certified votes have no source tabulator from which they should have originated;

17,852 ballots with certified votes had no ballot images that are required for vote tabulation;

17,234 unsourced votes found for certification after reporting results with an even larger shortfall;

3,125 double-scanned and double-counted ballots

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:43 AM (ENQN6)

90 Breakfast time!

Posted by: Bruce at May 14, 2024 06:44 AM (1fCnU)

91
Obviously, the results from Fulton County prove that Trump won the 2020 election and is precluded from running for a 3rd term.

Posted by: Karen CheChe at May 14, 2024 06:45 AM (RKVpM)

92 "Very Detailed Findings in Fulton County Research:"

It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Governor Brian Kemp at May 14, 2024 06:47 AM (vFG9F)

93 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Hope you have a great day.

I know you struggle, like most of us, but take it from me, you add a lot here. Thank you for posting. And post more, please. Vent to vent.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:48 AM (u82oZ)

94 Governor Brian Kemp

Once.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:49 AM (u82oZ)

95 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 06:49 AM (u82oZ)

96 Nurse reports she is recovering well

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 06:54 AM (RIvkX)

97 mornin yall. The angry lady on the local news seemed angry to report that Trump has a 10 point lead over Biden in Georgia, 49% vs 39%.With folks like the Lunkhead and Ratshitburger in charge though, I not sure that translates into a win. We are going to need a 25% spread.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 06:54 AM (vFG9F)

98 I just rolled over in bed and snapped one of the arms off my glasses. This calls for an official declaration appropriate at such times: son of biatch.

The good news I have an extra identical frame which means I am off to Lens Crafter's to blow a few hours today while holding them hostage (the surly employees at my location get more surly when there is no commission involved) until they swap the lens to backup frame. Son of biatch.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 06:54 AM (Amk6c)

99 I’ve never used the Sanitize feature but you’re right, there must be 25 settings on this dishwasher panel, of which we’ve used maybe 5?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 14, 2024 06:55 AM (6ydKt)

100 The sanitize cycle is good for getting carbon out of piston ring grooves.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 06:56 AM (vFG9F)

101 Vengeful vandals spray-painted the $3.4 million Brooklyn townhouse house of a wealthy Columbia University protester.

The front of James Carlson’s three-story Park Slope home was peppered with black Stars of David, along with “7-10” and “Never Again,” both references to Hamas terrorists’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel.

H O A X

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:57 AM (ENQN6)

102 Maybe it's the only way to squeeze in all the controls for the settings you never use.

Sanitize? What, hot water and soap aren't enough now?
Posted by: Bruce

Nah. I am convinced Whirlpool has a department that is preparing for the day the Communists take over and all product design really goes to hell. On the other my Whirlpool dishwasher is dead quiet which is a first in my life. Until this one I thought it was rule they had to sound like heavy industrial equipment running wide open.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 06:59 AM (Amk6c)

103 97 mornin yall. The angry lady on the local news seemed angry to report that Trump has a 10 point lead over Biden in Georgia, 49% vs 39%.With folks like the Lunkhead and Ratshitburger in charge though, I not sure that translates into a win. We are going to need a 25% spread.
Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 06:54 AM (vFG9F)

FUCO can generate about 60k fake votes as I show above at 89.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:59 AM (ENQN6)

104 My news is frustration with AI and service at Amazon and UPS.

I had an Amazon package stuffed with time sensitive gifts sent to me.

UPS shipped and tracked it to the minor city to the south, where the local distribution hub is. Then it was sent to the minor city 30 miles to my east, signed for, and never seen again.

The address on the box was correct for me, and not that other city.

The UPS AI system would not let me talk to a person. The best I could get was being tld to contact Amazon. The Amazon AI would not let me talk to a person. It told me to contact UPS. Even the Chat function at Amazon was AI, with the same answers. A person I finally contacted at Amazon only refunded me the money spent, but would not help. I wasted hours on this.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 07:00 AM (u82oZ)

105 We have the control on the top feature. I like it, easier to keep the front of the dishwasher clean. Hubby hates it, the buttons are too sensitive and he has trouble starting it. We have the blue light that projects down when running.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 14, 2024 07:00 AM (2NHgQ)

106 The Dead Lobster here is closing. I don't care because I haven't been in years. The last time we went, they were out of lobster. Bidenomics, baby!

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 07:01 AM (vFG9F)

107 I was at lensCrafters yesterday and they were super nice.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 07:01 AM (RIvkX)

108 Dead Lobster is bankrupt.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 07:01 AM (RIvkX)

109 San Franpsycho

What about her date? Was he man enough to send chocolate, flowers, and a get well card?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 07:02 AM (u82oZ)

110

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 14, 2024 07:03 AM (X4yCj)

111 The thing with Apple Mac and iPads Pros is I can't get my head around is why Apple steadfastly refuses to bring touch screens to the Macs and proper multitasking and file system to the iPad Pro. Sounds like there is a ripe opportunity to merge MacOS and iPadOS.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:03 AM (Amk6c)

112 I've tried other hard plastic ones and they don't work, and the big ones just aren't precise enough.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2024 06:34 AM (BxvY+)

Steal one from a Wacom tablet maybe?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 07:04 AM (+yhUM)

113 Hillary Clinton

Ah, one of the Great Old Ones has arrived.

No one gets a saving throw for sanity.

Go home to Humma. You're drunk, again.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 07:04 AM (u82oZ)

114 Thanks, Salty. I appreciate that.

My legal issue will be (I hope) resolved next Wednesday morning, so that at least will be one load off my mind.

Anyway, my comments are variations on a single theme, so that's one reason I try to post lightly. I'll try to dig up some good stories about old Hollywood for all of you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 07:05 AM (Q0kLU)

115 "Dead Lobster is bankrupt.
Posted by: San Franpsycho"

When biscuits are the best thing a seafood restaurant has, the end can not be far away.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 07:05 AM (vFG9F)

116 Here in H Town
The lack of violent crime investigations and dropping crime reports, Whitmire has said, likely skewed crime data, meaning the crime rate for the city was actually higher than reported. The previous mayor and Finner had claimed crime in the state’s largest city was declining despite daily news reports indicating the opposite.

They had a not so secret code ‘suspended lack of personnel’.

Almost 300,000 violent crimes hidden.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 07:06 AM (ENQN6)

117
Dead Lobster is bankrupt.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 07:01 AM

Who could have imagined that during a time of soaring food prices them offering an 'all you can eat' shrimp meal would bankrupt them?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 14, 2024 07:06 AM (RKVpM)

118 When biscuits are the best thing a seafood restaurant has, the end can not be far away.
Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 07:05 AM (vFG9F)

Like the best part of a barbecue joint being the wonderbread

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 07:06 AM (+yhUM)

119 Dead Lobster
good one

Posted by: Don Black at May 14, 2024 07:06 AM (/7KEl)

120 Dead Lobster is bankrupt.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

And to think I contributed to their demise by never visiting their restaurant. Not even one. When I lived in the Puget Sound region that was the last place I would go for seafood and now that I live in a desert the last place I would go is a seafood restaurant especially a chain one.

It seems a contributing factor to their problems was a promotion of an unlimited all you can eat shrimp. Even I could see that one was going to be a problem.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:07 AM (Amk6c)

121 What ever happened to that "Dude Your Getting A Dell!" guy.

What an idiot.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2024 07:08 AM (IebSC)

122 So apparently, gas taxes in Cali are going up by 50 cents.

Gavin Newsome will win by an even bigger landslide than his recall election.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 07:08 AM (XV/Pl)

123 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I await news of your stately pile of books and burden of debt, then. The good news is your deck is not the fern bar where adult turkey vultures cocoon, have sex, and watch the horizon in post-coital bliss. Like here.

Not a harbinger at all. Just a lot of other species procreative sex.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 07:09 AM (u82oZ)

124 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:09 AM (Be/+i)

125 I would go to Red Lobster every 3-5 years or so, the best thing they ever produced was The Lobster Nachos, which they quickly axed from their menu, inexplicably.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 07:10 AM (XV/Pl)

126 So apparently, gas taxes in Cali are going up by 50 cents.

Gavin Newsome will win by an even bigger landslide than his recall election.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

And CARB has the power to raise them annually.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:10 AM (Amk6c)

127 Dead Lobster is bankrupt.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Ghetto Lobster > Dead Lobster

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2024 07:10 AM (IebSC)

128 I remember Mom making fake lobster for dinner aka Lubester.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:12 AM (Amk6c)

129 40 WTF was the video?
Posted by: rhennigantx

I'm trying to figure our what she sings between verses.
Posted by: Bruce

"Haachama-chama!"

Her stage name is Akai Haato - literally "Red Heart" - and she was one of the earliest members of Hololive. At the age of 16.

Because she had seniority she had newer members in their mid-twenties formally calling her "Haato-san", so she told them to call her "Haachama" instead, which is about as informal as you can get in Japanese.

And it stuck.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 14, 2024 07:13 AM (BLOW1)

130 Have a great day, everyone.

May sunshine (or presumed daylight in the PNW) give you serenity.

And for nurse ratched - heal soon, please. May your new scars be the core of a tale that would frighten Hamas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 14, 2024 07:13 AM (u82oZ)

131 I would go to Red Lobster every 3-5 years or so, the best thing they ever produced was The Lobster Nachos, which they quickly axed from their menu, inexplicably.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 07:10 AM (XV/Pl)
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What part of the lobster is the "nacho?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:14 AM (Be/+i)

132 What part of the lobster is the "nacho?"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:14 AM (Be/+i)

It's right next to the tamale.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 07:16 AM (+yhUM)

133 I thought EVs were supposed to be less complex and have fewer parts. Why would one need coolant and a cooling system? Oh, to stop it from bursting into flames.

Posted by: fd at May 14, 2024 07:17 AM (vFG9F)

134
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 14, 2024 07:18 AM (bEb2S)

135 The local daily Las Cruces USA Today newspaper is down to 3 employees. Not much reporting happens here anymore. On the other hand I am completely caught up with the New Mexico state lottery news which these days makes up the entire business section.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:18 AM (Amk6c)

136 What part of the lobster is the "nacho?"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:14 AM (Be/+i)

It's right next to the tamale.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2024 07:16 AM (+yhUM)
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Good to know.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:20 AM (Be/+i)

137 Locally sourced free range gluten free Gargons are the future.

Posted by: A Teenager From Outer Space at May 14, 2024 07:20 AM (vFG9F)

138 MR is up

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 14, 2024 07:23 AM (U5wpN)

139
JJ

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 07:24 AM (ENQN6)

140 “A well regulated Militia being necessary for the security of a free State, the right to bear Arms shall not be infringed.” - Jerry Nadler, 2024.

Houston, I think we have a problem: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." It is always the people part these bastards skip over.

Posted by: lost in space at May 14, 2024 07:25 AM (Amk6c)

141 Re: Merchan

I have known four judges in my life. Two were incredibly intelligent lawyers who took the law seriously. Two were idiots and it was surprising that they made it through college, much less pass the LSAT and graduate from law school. Hell, it is a surprise they graduated from high school.

So, there you go. Let's guess where on that gamut Merchan falls.

Posted by: Lee Also at May 14, 2024 08:27 AM (IrqeV)

142 @112 Thanks, but I've tried those and they don't work. I've got bunches of Wacom tablets.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2024 09:31 AM (BxvY+)

143 66 60 I have a FWP. Rats are helping themselves at our bird feeder. Any ideas for deterrence?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2024 05:57 AM (RIvkX)

Get a cat
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2024 06:04 AM (ENQN6)

Seconded!

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 11:11 AM (o3SCB)

144 88 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Just found out this morning that nurse ratched had an appendectomy on Saturday. I wish I'd known, but I have to stay off AoS most of the week to keep from complete despair.

Anyway, must work. Will chat later, if I have time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 14, 2024 06:42 AM (Q0kLU)

Miss you when you're not here!

Posted by: m at May 14, 2024 11:24 AM (o3SCB)

145 131 I would go to Red Lobster every 3-5 years or so, the best thing they ever produced was The Lobster Nachos, which they quickly axed from their menu, inexplicably.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2024 07:10 AM (XV/Pl)
------------
What part of the lobster is the "nacho?"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 14, 2024 07:14 AM (Be/+i)

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