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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | THE MORNING RANT: Learn to Weld? What if Manufacturing Jobs Come Home but White Collar Jobs Get Offshored?At least 50 of the roles were based at Google’s headquarters in Sunnyvale, Calif. Google is expected to hire replacement workers for the roles in Mexico and India, CNBC reported, citing a review of internal documents.In just the first few months of 2024, about 60,000 employees have been laid off by tech companies. “A comprehensive list of 2024 tech layoffs; From major layoffs at Tesla, Amazon and Microsoft to small fintech startups and apps” [TechCrunch – 5/03/2024] The tech layoff wave is still going strong in 2024. Following significant workforce reductions in 2022 and 2023, this year has already seen 60,000 job cuts across 254 companies, according to independent layoffs tracker Layoffs.fyi. Companies like Tesla, Amazon, Google, TikTok, Snap and Microsoft have conducted sizable layoffs in the first months of 2024.As Don Johnson notes, it was foolish for white collar workers to think their jobs couldn’t be offshored too. But at the same time, while coding can be offshored and spreadsheets can be produced and sent from anywhere, there’s a growing appreciation for the value in locally manufactured products, which don’t have to sail through chokepoints which have a habit recently of getting choked off. “Simultaneous Obstructions to the Suez and Panama Canals Threaten the Global Supply Chain” [Foley & Lardner Insights – 02/21/2024] Nearly 15% of global shipping traffic is estimated to pass through the Suez Canal in a given year. The volume of freight traversing the Suez Canal decreased dramatically since December 2023 due to the Houthi militant attacks. The Panama Canal—which ordinarily carries approximately 40% of all U.S. container traffic—is simultaneously experiencing interruption due to an unprecedented drought. Drought conditions have decreased water levels of the canal to well below normal levels and forced canal authorities to decrease the amount of traffic navigating the canal each day by more than 36%.How significant is the onshoring trend in manufacturing? Rob Lanphier and Jim Jones of William Blair & Company wrote a blog post in December noting the onshoring trend. They pointed out several competitive advantages that the US has, including infrastructure that is already in place, and especially cheap abundant energy in the form of natural gas. It included these charts. This first chart shows the number of mentions of “onshoring” in public filings, with a dramatic uptick starting in 2020, and continuing to shoot upward since then.This next graph shows the number of companies by industry announcing expansion of production facilities in the US since 2020. Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) wrote a piece recently about AI replacing white collar workers, and it had much the same thesis, that people who earn money with their hands may have better employment prospects than the laptop class. “The white-collar class derided mass layoffs among the blue-collar workers. It’s about to feel their pain” [NY Post – Glenn Reynolds – 01/16/2024] Some of them [plumbers and auto mechanics] might even tell out-of-work analysts to “learn to plumb” — but, as we saw a couple years ago, people who told laid-off journalists on Twitter to “learn to code” were accused of “hate speech.” And that’s the difference between what happens when tradesmen are laid off and when members of the gentry class lose their sustenance.While it’s wonderful that manufacturing jobs are enjoying an onshoring boom, and it’s ironic that some white-collar workers who sneered at blue collar workers losing their jobs are now suffering the same fate, we should want all job types to remain in this country. We need all types of jobs to remain in this country. Self sufficiency and national security depend on it. An important lesson that was finally learned by (some of) our ruling class during the era of Covid tyranny was that jobs throughout the entire workforce are “essential,” not just those jobs that were deemed essential by economically illiterate government officials. When “non-essential” jobs were locked down, the entire system broke down. There is no class of jobs that is not essential to this country. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com] Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 2
Woot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 3
Off to get the others.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 4
Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (8RNuU) 5
Good morning Buck
Posted by: Skip at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (bRWyy) 6
after the grand slam.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 7
Thwarted.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 8
Why do I think it would not be a good idea to do welding in a suit and tie?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:02 AM (9yWhg) 9
It's already been done. When I left JPMorganChase, our section had more Indian (dot, not feather) nationals than anything else.
And the quality of our development showed it. Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:03 AM (oIV3h) Posted by: Newcomer at May 10, 2024 11:03 AM (cCVOS) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:03 AM (Zz0t1) 12
Hey, Sponge. When you were in Denmark last week, did you see the old Copenhagen stock exchange that caught fire?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:03 AM (9yWhg) 13
I'm genuinely excited to see this happen, similar to how I'm interested in watching "journalists" and the like lose their jobs to AI.
For thirty years they've been insisting that illegals are a great thing as the South watches jobs and industries lost to not-Americans. Now it's their turn. I won't shed a tear for the people who kept telling me how it's good for our communities. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 10, 2024 11:04 AM (KvRIM) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:04 AM (Wnv9h) 15
Wonder what an AI "ass chewing" would be like?
Posted by: BignJames at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR) 16
Willowed:
In the waiting room waiting and listening to a conversation about GOD between a Marine and artist. Interesting. But good. Posted by: lin-duh See. Not having a good day. Read that as sitting in God's waiting room. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (RJiwi) 17
Learn to Weld? What if Manufacturing Jobs Come Home but White Collar Jobs Get Offshored?
++++ The same thing that happened last time. The high-tech centers will wither over time while they are replaced with industrial centers. The high-tech workers will complain about vanishing opportunity. Most of them will take lower-paying work in unrelated industries and fondly remember (or resentfully remember, depending on personal psychology) the "good times" before the world left them behind. Half or more of the former high-tech master class will end up on welfare. Drugs - already a problem - will become more prevalent. Despair will set in. The government will shrug and say everything is fine because welfare is just as good as a paycheck, and the pundits will tell the displaced tech workers that they are morally repugnant and cancerous. Just like happened to the blue collar people. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (d04cU) Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) 19
Willowed, but tangentially important to the topic:
If you read this headline as "US Balls Deep In Japan" you won't be that far off... https://www.tftc.io/us-bails-out-japan/ Something Wicked was already This Way Coming. The problem is now its This Way Coming Much Faster Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM (MkuC5) 20
18 "There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM (GBKbO) 21
“Simultaneous Obstructions to the Suez and Panama Canals Threaten the Global Supply Chain” [Foley & Lardner Insights – 02/21/2024]
-- Let's see here... Ah yes, there it is: "Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM (KvRIM) 22
Might as well get a jump on it. Trump is gonna tariff all that shit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM (AJDwy) 23
Learn to Weld? What if Manufacturing Jobs Come Home but White Collar Jobs Get Offshored?
++++ I think the better question, Buck, is "what happens if white collar jobs get offshored, too?" Because that's been happening for years and is only getting worse, and while manufacturing is improving, it isn't going gangbusters. What if we just lose, period? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (d04cU) 24
“As we’ve said, we’re responsibly investing in our company’s biggest priorities and the significant opportunities ahead,” a Google spokesperson told The Post on Wednesday.
“To best position us for these opportunities, throughout the second half of 2023 and into 2024, a number of our teams made changes to become more efficient and work better, remove layers and align their resources to their biggest product priorities.” The spokesperson added. “Through this, we’re simplifying our structures to give employees more opportunity to work on our most innovative and important advances and our biggest company priorities, while reducing bureaucracy and layers.” Uhhhhh, what? Corporate jargon so thick you can cut it with a knife! Posted by: Lizzy at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (cCVOS) 25
Forget learn to code... Learn to weld
Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Akjoo) 26
Hey, Sponge. When you were in Denmark last week, did you see the old Copenhagen stock exchange that caught fire?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:03 AM (9yWhg) No. Did go to Tivoli, which is near by, but didn't get to see the Exchange. I was told it was still smoldering, but I doubt that. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1) 27
While I disagree with many of his governmentally-driven solutions to offshoring, Trump is one of the few politicians I can remember who actually made a point of trying to bring jobs back to America. I suspect that a lot of this is beyond government's capabilities to resolve, and any governmental "solutions" only exacerbate the problem. See sclerotic Europe for a case study.
The most obvious long-term solution is that eventually, standards of living in places like India and Mexico will rise to levels much closer to those in the US. That has already happened in China. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (CsUN+) 28
At my globo megacorp they ship as many jobs overseas as they can to pay less.
Amusingly though all the third worlders then try to use the company to come here so they'll get paid more... Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (ibTVg) 29
"There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM Street mimes? Community organizers? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (Wnv9h) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (9yWhg) 31
The America in the Morning news roundup early on my local Clay & Buck station keeps running an ad for some IT/tech school. The latest one is some guy complaining he's been let go, and his friend suggests the "recession-resistant" field of IT.
I want to hear the laid-off guy snarl, "I was *IN* IT, you dolt! They sent the jobs of my entire department to India!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (J2vNu) 32
THE MORNING RANT: Learn to Weld?
My biggest regret in life? Not having my dad teach me to weld. Yeah, I can pay to go take a class, but it isn't the same thing. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (RJiwi) 33
Street mimes? Community organizers? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (Wnv9h) Where do you stand on Cowboy Poetry? Posted by: Zombie Harry Reid at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1) 34
That's a shame. Looking down upon blue collar workers while sipping ten dollar lattes wasn't such a good idea.
Maybe learn how to unclog a toilet would be their best bet. Posted by: mpfs, ubi porci mali at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (Q00Hv) 35
The AI image generator thinks you can get twice as much done with two welding torches, huh.
Posted by: spindrift at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (OguvZ) 36
29 Street mimes?
Community organizers? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (Wnv9h) ======== Street mimes are a delight, and I will not have their honor besmirched by equating them to parasitic creatures like community organizers! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (GBKbO) 37
While it’s wonderful that manufacturing jobs are enjoying an onshoring boom
We did an excellent job screwing over German manufacturing by forcing Germany to take expensive American LNG gas instead of cheap Russian gas, thereby shifting a lot of manufacturing from Germany to the United States. (I wonder who blew up the Nordstream pipeline - tee, hee!) (Of course, the Germans also screwed over themselves by closing their nuclear plants.) Of course, this may end up getting the "far-right" Alternative for Deutschland getting elected, with Germany adopting a far more nationalist foreign policy, but hey - you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (uxCna) 38
And I thought true journalism was dead.
The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee Biden Strikes Deal Where Hamas Gets To Keep American Hostages In Exchange For Fifteen Votes In Michigan - IT'S FUNNY 'CAUSE IT'S TRUE. Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl) 39
The AI image generator thinks you can get twice as much done with two welding torches, huh.
Posted by: spindrift at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM (OguvZ) Thicker bead. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) 40
If you want to watch the killer coronal mass ejection as it approaches Earth, go to
https://tinyurl.com/w6dvpfj2 then scroll down to the WSA-ENLIL prediction animation. This is what they call a 'geo-effective' CME, IOW it's heading straight at the place where we'll be when we get there later today. Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (MvF+J) 41
"There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM Street mimes? Community organizers? Posted by: RedMindBlueState Gender-reassignment surgeons Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (9yWhg) 42
Tariffs and border control will obviously reduce "income inequality"...which 10 cycles ago or so was "literally the most important issue of our time" according to the FNM
Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (ibTVg) 43
"There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison High school administrators. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (RJiwi) 44
Street mimes are a delight, and I will not have their honor besmirched by equating them to parasitic creatures like community organizers!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM " ." Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Wnv9h) 45
44 Street mimes are a delight, and I will not have their honor besmirched by equating them to parasitic creatures like community organizers!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:09 AM " ." Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Wnv9h) ====== I don't get it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO) 46
Because that's been happening for years and is only getting worse, and while manufacturing is improving, it isn't going gangbusters. What if we just lose, period?
It was always a metastable state when you had countries full of smart, hard-working people (China, Japan, Korea, etc.) who had much lower SOL than we did, but the potential to be very competitive with us. We started assuming we were #1 by holy writ, and could never lose. See the US steel and auto industries. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (CsUN+) 47
Of course, this may end up getting the "far-right" Alternative for Deutschland getting elected
All a political party needs to do to qualify as "far-right" in Europe is oppose mass Third World immigration to Europe. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (uxCna) 48
They sent the jobs of my entire department to India!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:08 AM (J2vNu) Speaking of that... I had to call Kohls over some dispute over my bill and "Janice" was so nice to help me... Unfortunately "Janice" had such a thick Indian accent I couldn't understand a word she was saying. Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Akjoo) 49
>Uhhhhh, what?
Corporate jargon so thick you can cut it with a knife! Posted by: Lizzy at May 10, 2024 11:07 AM (cCVOS) What's not clear? They embrace user-centric infrastructures as they facilitate transformative deliverables and scale robust methodologies. Duh... Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (GTqXr) 50
The tech layoff wave is still going strong in 2024. Following significant workforce reductions in 2022 and 2023, this year has already seen 60,000 job cuts across 254 companies, according to independent layoffs tracker Layoffs.fyi.
++++ "The tech layoffs peaked in 2023 and we're going to be fine" has been a false narrative. I see nothing but trouble on the horizon in high tech. Layoffs will continue - possibly not vast waves of layoffs, but nonetheless they will continue - and hiring is slowing down drastically. How many soon-to-be-laid-off high tech employees are truly prepared for 12-18 months of unemployment? How many are ready for that unemployment to end but for the next job to pay 25% less? How many who pulled up stakes and moved to lower-cost areas during the Great Migration are prepared for the next job to pay 50% less? The layoffs are bad and will get worse. For high tech, though, the "what comes next" is also not rosy, and based on my conversations and relationships (not objective), a whole lot of people are not ready for that. They expect to find work within 3-6 months and continue as before. That will work for some, but I suspect it will not be the norm. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (d04cU) 51
All tech support is getting sent to India and South America.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (AJDwy) 52
Hmmm. That would have been better if Pixy had kept the spaces in between the quotation marks.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (Wnv9h) 53
Learn to mow, edge, trim, & blow.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4I/2K) 54
18 "There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:06 AM (GBKbO) "Studies" professors? Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (iRX3h) Posted by: Marcel Marceau at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (cCVOS) 56
COVID killed the meaningless drones, they just haven't fallen over yet. If you were able to work remotely for 6 months or more without any problems, you can be offshored tomorrow. All those smug jerks bragging how awesome it was to be stuck at home to do their job will be feeling a little bit less cheerful when their job has been given to some dude named Pradesh at half the salary.
Posted by: bittergeek at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (3SsGZ) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (Wnv9h) 58
55 >>I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Posted by: Marcel Marceau at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (cCVOS) ======== "Non!" -Marcel Marceau Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:12 AM (GBKbO) 59
>>They expect to find work within 3-6 months and continue as before. That will work for some, but I suspect it will not be the norm.
Not if they're over 50 Posted by: Marcel Marceau at May 10, 2024 11:13 AM (cCVOS) 60
We started assuming we were #1 by holy writ, and could never lose. See the US steel and auto industries.
Posted by: Archimedes - I would suggest that those industries deciding to save ten cents per every 100,000 units by moving jobs overseas didn't help. But at least lettuce doesn't cost 11c. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 10, 2024 11:13 AM (KvRIM) 61
(I wonder who blew up the Nordstream pipeline - tee, hee!)
It's been a year and a half since the pipeline bombings, and Sweden, which launched an extensive investigation into the bombings, refuses to identify a culprit. Tells you everything you need to know. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (uxCna) 62
43 "There is no class of jobs that are not essential to this country."
Politicians? Posted by: TC at May 10, 2024 11:05 AM (FjlUt) ======= University administrators? Posted by: TheJamesMadison High school administrators. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (RJiwi) Telephone Sanitizers Posted by: Golgofrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B Passenger Manifest at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (PiwSw) 63
I do contract work remotely now. I recognize that some guy in India can also do my job for less than what I'm being paid. So I have to keep on my toes to deliver a quality product, meet deadlines, respond quickly to questions and give the client confidence I understand the request they've made. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (MoZTd) 64
Here’s how you solve it:
Prohibit any economic activity or jobs that are NOT manufacturing, Manufacturing jobs, as we have seen here, Are The Only Jobs That Matter. Nope. No farming, ranching, oil drilling, coal mining, medical services, ANYTHING should be allowed to happen in this country unless you are in manufacturing. Construction? Not allowed. Services of any kind? Not allowed. The U.S. economy should ONLY look like this: 80% manufacturing 20% government (because big government is wonderful and is needed to make sure the only thing the U.S economy is about is manufacturing. You want to do something other than manufacturing? You can discuss your ideas with a police officer, who will patiently listen to you before savagely beating you to death for treason. Sounds great, huh? Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (Ds3Rc) 65
48 I called customer service on something and got a gal with a very thick Indian accent. I was most polite, just telling her she was trying hard but I was having a problem understanding her and could I speak to a supervisor, please. Next thing I knew, I was talking to Julie Andrews.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (V5eKu) 66
But at the same time, while coding can be offshored and spreadsheets can be produced and sent from anywhere, there’s a growing appreciation for the value in locally manufactured products, which don’t have to sail through chokepoints which have a habit recently of getting choked off.
++++ Not to mention the other reality coming home to roost, which is that "Designed in California, Made in China" doesn't work. Things really do work better when co-located. Design, eventually, will be local with production. It's just easier that way and there are fewer logistical hurdles. This is how low-cost manufacturers like Japan became engineering powers. It happens on its own. So manufacturing has to go home, or engineering has to go abroad. One or the other will happen. It's inevitable. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (d04cU) 67
Out: Wall Street types in thousand dollars suits and manicured nails.
In: Plumbers with butt crack and dirty fingernails. Posted by: mpfs, ubi porci mali at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (Q00Hv) 68
If you want to watch the killer coronal mass ejection as it approaches Earth, go to
https://tinyurl.com/w6dvpfj2 - I'm gonna wait for the movie. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:15 AM (L/fGl) 69
Telephone Sanitizers
Posted by: Golgofrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B Passenger Manifest at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM About that... Posted by: Zombie Golgofrinchans at May 10, 2024 11:15 AM (Wnv9h) 70
I'm not sure I ever heard the term "Principled Free-Traders" before. I like it.
Obviously, among the great crimes of the late 20th/early 21st centuries was the sell out to Chi Nah. We did an about face, when "principled free traders" figured out there was a lot of money to be made "opening up" the Chi Nah market, and selling it to the rest of us as if this was supposed to somehow make Chi Nah a democratic beacon of freedom. Instead, the U.S. clamped down on its own citizens' freedoms, cow-towed to their CCP masters, and caused us to be dependent on foreigners, to the detriment of everything America supposedly stood for. So those bastards could get rich. Posted by: BurtTC at May 10, 2024 11:15 AM (dGCAG) Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 10, 2024 11:15 AM (+yhUM) 72
My biggest regret in life? Not having my dad teach me to weld.
Yeah, I can pay to go take a class, but it isn't the same thing. Posted by: rickb223 If you held the flashlight for him and lived through it, you are already halfway there. Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (oIV3h) 73
>The layoffs are bad and will get worse. For high tech, though, the "what comes next" is also not rosy, and based on my conversations and relationships (not objective), a whole lot of people are not ready for that. They expect to find work within 3-6 months and continue as before. That will work for some, but I suspect it will not be the norm.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (d04cU) Based on my Linked In feed, a lot of 40 and 50 something tech employees are taking it in the shorts. Only a few years ago, if you got zipped, the package was lucrative...a years salary, immediate vesting of stock options etc. Now, people are lucky to get a week for every year of service. And if you were a tech drone for the past 10 years, what's next? Your prospects are dim and you likely have been living too large to have saved anything meaningful for retirement. You're fucked. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (GTqXr) 74
CME > Y2K
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (+87un) Posted by: Some Tech Oligarch at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg) 76
====== I don't get it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO) There's nothing to get. Mimes can't type. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1) 77
Yeah, I can pay to go take a class, but it isn't the same thing.
Posted by: rickb223 If you held the flashlight for him and lived through it, you are already halfway there. Posted by: Tonypete *snort Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (RJiwi) 78
If US White Collar workers fear that their jobs will be off-shored or near-shored, then they must hope for Trump to win and impose import tariffs - because white collar jobs that cannot control the making of things where they are located, must necessarily go where they can.
Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (K+UlC) 79
Speaking of that... I had to call Kohls over some dispute over my bill and "Janice" was so nice to help me... Unfortunately "Janice" had such a thick Indian accent I couldn't understand a word she was saying.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 *** In delightful contrast, yesterday I needed to call a tobacco-and-pipe business in Richmond, VA. "Amy" was charming and knowledgeable, and made the phone call a pleasure. Funny how, when I call less benighted stated than this one, my IQ seems to ramp up a few points. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu) 80
While it’s wonderful that manufacturing jobs are enjoying an onshoring boom, and it’s ironic that some white-collar workers who sneered at blue collar workers losing their jobs are now suffering the same fate, we should want all job types to remain in this country. We need all types of jobs to remain in this country. Self sufficiency and national security depend on it.
++++ That sneering was common, but not universal. A lot of it had to do with locality. White collar people in blue-collar areas were more likely, in my experience, to look on in horror at what was happening. Those without a manufacturing base decaying in front of their eyes were more likely to sneer. Those in government and think tanks were more or less guaranteed to sneer. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (d04cU) 81
Adding complexity to an already complex situation, the Asian countries have upcoming population collapses, so will have far fewer workers than they have now. India and the US are better situated than China, Japan, Taiwan, and S. Korea, but India is well below replacement fertility, as are we, while Mexico is just at replacement, but will probably be below soon.
East Asia’s Coming Population Collapse And How It Will Reshape World Politics https://tinyurl.com/mr2ws4m2 Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+) 82
One company I worked for tried to move into the Chinese market...twice. And both times the local companies they had to partner with stole all of our IP. And no the people behind the idea were not fired for it...of course. Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (ibTVg) 83
I called customer service on something and got a gal with a very thick Indian accent. I was most polite, just telling her she was trying hard but I was having a problem understanding her and could I speak to a supervisor, please. Next thing I knew, I was talking to Julie Andrews.
Posted by: bill in arkansas This irritates me no end. Hire some Henry Higginses and teach these people how to speak comprehensible English. They don't need to be completely accent-free, just understandable. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:18 AM (9yWhg) 84
Indeed, a major source of objection to a free economy is that it…gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is the lack of belief in freedom itself.
Posted by: Milton Friedman at May 10, 2024 11:18 AM (Ds3Rc) 85
Wonder what an AI "ass chewing" would be like?
Posted by: BignJames ---------- 'Dave? What are you doing Dave? Posted by: HAL at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (XeU6L) 86
72 I can stick and mig weld just enough for a quicky repair. By quick, I mean "ah, I don't need the hood". And waking up with the icepicks being driven into the eyes from the retina burns. Stupid is not fun.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (V5eKu) 87
>>I called customer service on something and got a gal with a very thick Indian accent. I was most polite, just telling her she was trying hard but I was having a problem understanding her and could I speak to a supervisor, please. Next thing I knew, I was talking to Julie Andrews.
Called the internet provider, spoke to two different people in foreign call centers. The second one had the gall to upsell me on maintenance program where - get this! - I get to speak to someone in the US to fix my internet issue! This was after going around and around with him, explaining this issue, him assuming it was X when I had explained it was not X, him asking a lot of jargon-laden questions from a script, etc.. So I relented on the paid maintenance, got transferred to an American who then walked me through the simple solution in minutes. Posted by: Lizzy at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (cCVOS) 88
Why do I think it would not be a good idea to do welding in a suit and tie?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:02 AM (9yWhg) You could easily make a suit flame retardant. The tie could be restrained by multiple clips. The eyes? He's done welding for life in a few minutes. AI shows its ass again. Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (FCbAQ) 89
This irritates me no end. Hire some Henry Higginses and teach these people how to speak comprehensible English. They don't need to be completely accent-free, just understandable. The Indians with a more understandable accent generally are the wealthier ones that already move in circles with Americans and Brits. The companies outsourcing support to India are trying to cut costs so they aren't getting those people. Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (ibTVg) 90
81 Adding complexity to an already complex situation, the Asian countries have upcoming population collapses, so will have far fewer workers than they have now. India and the US are better situated than China, Japan, Taiwan, and S. Korea, but India is well below replacement fertility, as are we, while Mexico is just at replacement, but will probably be below soon.
East Asia’s Coming Population Collapse And How It Will Reshape World Politics https://tinyurl.com/mr2ws4m2 Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+) ======= How will they rule the world, then? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO) 91
Based on my Linked In feed, a lot of 40 and 50 something tech employees are taking it in the shorts. Only a few years ago, if you got zipped, the package was lucrative...a years salary, immediate vesting of stock options etc. Now, people are lucky to get a week for every year of service. And if you were a tech drone for the past 10 years, what's next? Your prospects are dim and you likely have been living too large to have saved anything meaningful for retirement. You're fucked.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:16 AM (GTqXr) ++++ When I get laid off, my package will be pretty good (it's already been negotiated). But that's it. The last hurrah. The party is over. I expect it to take me a year to find a new job, and I expect that new job to pay me ~40% less (local market combined with the downturn is going to be a double-hit, and I knew it would happen when I made my choices and have no regrets over it). This game is finished. I had a very good run - better than most - but it's over. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (d04cU) 92
83 I called customer service on something and got a gal with a very thick Indian accent. I was most polite, just telling her she was trying hard but I was having a problem understanding her and could I speak to a supervisor, please. Next thing I knew, I was talking to Julie Andrews.
Posted by: bill in arkansas This irritates me no end. Hire some Henry Higginses and teach these people how to speak comprehensible English. They don't need to be completely accent-free, just understandable. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:18 AM (9yWhg) Nope, we need manufacturing jobs only. Services jobs are stupid and for the little people. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (Ds3Rc) 93
It's been a year and a half since the pipeline bombings, and Sweden, which launched an extensive investigation into the bombings, refuses to identify a culprit.
Tells you everything you need to know. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (uxCna) Are people still "waiting" to find out what happened? We know what happened, but I guess this is one of those things where people drive themselves nuts, trying to explain that all the information is already out there, but it's just not be blessed by the right people to admit to it. Posted by: BurtTC at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (dGCAG) 94
This irritates me no end. Hire some Henry Higginses and teach these people how to speak comprehensible English. They don't need to be completely accent-free, just understandable.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:18 AM I find the hardest part about Indian accents isn't the accent so much as the speaker using the cadence and inflection of his native language instead of the normal cadence and inflection of English. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (Wnv9h) 95
Speaking of essential . . .
Mayor Eric Adams @NYCMayor I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies. We will be talking infrastructure, climate change, the asylum seeker crisis and so much more. Through hard work and faith, there is nothing we can't accomplish. - He'd better be buying lions to throw criminals to! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (L/fGl) 96
Indeed, a major source of objection to a free economy is that it…gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is the lack of belief in freedom itself.
If I had a nickle for every time I've had a leftist tell me that if you let people make choices on their own they'll choose the wrong one I'd have enough Bidenbux to buy a Whole Foods apple... Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:21 AM (ibTVg) 97
Good post Buck. When media people were getting laid off the saying "learn to code" was turned against them. I said that I wouldn't trust media ideas to properly code anything. Same thing with welding. I'm not trusting anything that was welded by gender studies majors. Wouldn't be prudent
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 10, 2024 11:21 AM (5S+sK) 98
@NYCMayor
I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies. We will be talking infrastructure, climate change, the asylum seeker crisis and so much more. Through hard work and faith, there is nothing we can't accomplish. ... Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (L/fGl) ++++ You work for NYC, Eric, not "the world." Unless you're going on a fact-finding mission to learn how Rome solved some problems your city is facing, you have no business being there. You work for New York City. Stay there and work. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:22 AM (d04cU) 99
I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies.
We will be talking infrastructure, climate change, the asylum seeker crisis and so much more. Think my boss would buy this argument if I argued for a trip to Rome on the company dime? Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:22 AM (ibTVg) 100
95 Speaking of essential . . .
Mayor Eric Adams @NYCMayor I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies. We will be talking infrastructure, climate change, the asylum seeker crisis and so much more. Through hard work and faith, there is nothing we can't accomplish. - He'd better be buying lions to throw criminals to! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:20 AM (L/fGl) ======== 1. He talks about faith. He is obviously some sort of theocratic tyrant. 2. Rome's public transit might be better than NYC's, though it's less robust. Surely, they're going to talk about metropolitan levels of issues instead of things that city governments cannot affect, right? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO) 101
I have seen some of the worst code come out of India. Broke much of our base code when it got checked in overnight. Us on-shore guys had to fix and refactor during the day what off-shore guys broke overnight. It really was a complete waste of resources.
But they were cheap! har har Posted by: Zippyslug at May 10, 2024 11:22 AM (/jFSs) 102
98 You work for NYC, Eric, not "the world."
Unless you're going on a fact-finding mission to learn how Rome solved some problems your city is facing, you have no business being there. You work for New York City. Stay there and work. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:22 AM (d04cU) ======= Notice, as well, that the city has started cutting services in order to pay for their illegal immigrant population, but an expensive trip for the mayor to Rome somehow is still on the books. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO) 103
"... we should want all job types to remain in this country. We need all types of jobs to remain in this country."
-- It's the whole point of making a big country. Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (wzAuc) 104
I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies. _________ You're going to Italy to learn how to run a city? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (MoZTd) 105
Speaking of that... I had to call Kohls over some dispute over my bill and "Janice" was so nice to help me... Unfortunately "Janice" had such a thick Indian accent I couldn't understand a word she was saying.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 *** In delightful contrast, yesterday I needed to call a tobacco-and-pipe business in Richmond, VA. "Amy" was charming and knowledgeable, and made the phone call a pleasure. Funny how, when I call less benighted stated than this one, my IQ seems to ramp up a few points. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius There's a reason why companies have stayed with my company for 25+ years. When you call customer service, you get a US based person who 1. speaka da engrish and is authorized to fix whatever the problem is, and 2. Usually your dedicated cs rep, unless they are on vacation. After hours, weekends & holidays? Same way. You get a US based person who speaka da engrish. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (RJiwi) 106
When I get laid off, my package will be pretty good (it's already been negotiated). But that's it. The last hurrah. The party is over.. . .
This game is finished. I had a very good run - better than most - but it's over. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) I did the same - I was 60 when I left. And made sure that when I did my weekly mailing of resume's to emphasize my age. Oddly enough, no offers so I continued to collect unemployment. hehehe Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (oIV3h) 107
This irritates me no end. Hire some Henry Higginses and teach these people how to speak comprehensible English. They don't need to be completely accent-free, just understandable.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:18 AM I find the hardest part about Indian accents isn't the accent so much as the speaker using the cadence and inflection of his native language instead of the normal cadence and inflection of English. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 *** That, and all the sounds are "voiced." You know the difference between "voiced" sounds, where you use your larynx (the "th" sound in "this," for instance), and unvoiced, where you don't (the "th" in "think")? *Every* phoneme in Indian languages it seems is voiced, because they work the voice box on every sound in English. It must be wearing for them. It sure is for me. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu) 108
You're going to Italy to learn how to run a city?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:23 AM (MoZTd) ++++ How the mighty have fallen. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (d04cU) 109
Buck, you are a very good writer and reporter. However, you are pretty clueless when it comes economics and trade. It seems that you learned economics from the newspaper in the 80s and 90s. You know, from "journalists" who are the dumbest people on any college campus. You should go read Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams. You won't, but you should.
The goal should be for less government interference in the economy, not more as you are advocating. Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (P7Iz+) 110
I find the hardest part about Indian accents isn't the accent so much as the speaker using the cadence and inflection of his native language instead of the normal cadence and inflection of English.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState Perhaps. But that can be corrected, too. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (9yWhg) 111
And of course, there will be zero discussion on how government policies, from high property taxes to cover bonds used to pay for crappy public education, to insane regulations at the state and federal level, run businesses off. Nope. Businesses are supposed to build factories here and put up with the crap they are given by people here in this country via government, because patriotism. Everything and all things are the fault of free trade, not the horrendous anti-business governments people cheerfully elect. And zero bitching about countries that outsource HERE. Nobody will mention how, for instance, the BMWs you see on the road here were most likely built in SC, not Bayern.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Ds3Rc) 112
Gotta keep them street performers under control.
Posted by: Sandford Neighbourhood Watch Alliance at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (4I/2K) 113
If I had a nickle for every time I've had a leftist tell me that if you let people make choices on their own they'll choose the wrong one I'd have enough Bidenbux to buy a Whole Foods apple...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:21 AM (ibTVg) Obligatory: https://is.gd/1HgFfI Posted by: Golgofrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B Passenger Manifest at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (PiwSw) 114
89 I know an Indian couple, motel owners (Go figure) that are totally Americanized. Both have veddy, veddy, Brit accents, and both come from money back in the old country. They are not so Americanized because they (both he and she) will drop everything for a Cricket match on satellite TV.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (V5eKu) 115
Mayor's going to Rome to sell NYC to the Camorra gang. They can probably run the city better than he can.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM (MvF+J) 116
Mayor Eric Adams
@NYCMayor I'm traveling to Rome because the solutions to the problems facing our city, country and planet must be solved together — by sharing ideas and strategies. We will be talking infrastructure, climate change, the asylum seeker crisis and so much more. Through hard work and faith, there is nothing we can't accomplish. Your job as mayor of a US CITY does not require you to go to a foreign COUNTRY to learn how to do your job, asshole........ Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) 117
I do 3 kinds of work, fast, cheap or good.
You can only pick 2 of those. Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (MeG8a) 118
Learn to mow, edge, trim, & blow.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4I/2K) I specialize in one of those. What is mow, edge and trim? Posted by: Paul at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (FCbAQ) 119
My former employer had two offices in India. This was the problem: while they were no doubt cheaper, they were located in cities with offices of numerous tech/software companies. As a result, our company was merely a stepping stone to that dream job at Google, Amazon, etc.. Whatever money was saved on salary was spent on all the hours it took to get one of these people up to speed only to have them leave in a year. It was exhausting to have to keep training what would eventually be my replacement only to have them quit. Really compounded the FU from my employer - 'You're replaceable, except all your replacements keep fleeing while your loyalty is unrecognized, unrewarded.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (cCVOS) 120
I have seen some of the worst code come out of India. Broke much of our base code when it got checked in overnight. Us on-shore guys had to fix and refactor during the day what off-shore guys broke overnight. It really was a complete waste of resources.
But they were cheap! har har Posted by: Zippyslug Wish you could additionally bill for fixing code, since fixing code isn't your job. No different than if they had to outsource a fix. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (RJiwi) 121
I'm a software engineer in his mid 50s. I'd love to learn how to weld.
Not because I'm looking to switch careers... but because I just think it'd be cool to know how to weld. That, and to make killbots. Posted by: weew at May 10, 2024 11:25 AM (/uwTS) 122
The advice I give all my nieces and nephews is: pick a career that a robot can't do or can't be done remotely in India.
I hope they listen. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 10, 2024 11:26 AM (xcxpd) 123
We know what happened, but I guess this is one of those things where people drive themselves nuts, trying to explain that all the information is already out there, but it's just not be blessed by the right people to admit to it.
They tried to blame the Russians for the pipeline bombings, but that didn't last very long, since it made no sense to bomb a pipeline when you control the eastern taps to the pipeline - nothing moves through the pipeline without your approval anyway. The fact that both Blinken and Nuland did little victory dances when the pipeline was blown up might be a clue. Hey, we're probably going to get an anti-American German government out of it, but screwing up like that is very on-brand for the Biden Administration. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:26 AM (uxCna) 124
White collar jobs were being offshored thirty years ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2024 11:27 AM (63Dwl) 125
123 Hey, we're probably going to get an anti-American German government out of it, but screwing up like that is very on-brand for the Biden Administration.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:26 AM (uxCna) ====== Maybe Germany can raise its own army and go and fight in Ukraine. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:27 AM (GBKbO) 126
> Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) wrote a piece recently about AI replacing white collar workers, and it had much the same thesis, that people who earn money with their hands may have better employment prospects than the laptop class.
______________ I'm not so sure about this. Just a day or two ago some of us were lamenting the lack of any skilled tradesmen to work on machinery, engines and the like. Nobody wants to do this sort of work and AI is definitely NOT the answer. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 10, 2024 11:27 AM (Q4IgG) 127
I find the hardest part about Indian accents isn't the accent so much as the speaker using the cadence and inflection of his native language instead of the normal cadence and inflection of English.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState Perhaps. But that can be corrected, too. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:24 AM True, but you have to want to learn to speak like a native. It seems most people don't. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2024 11:27 AM (Wnv9h) 128
I’ve worked for a few big high tech companies (most notably Lucent Technologies) that believe that decimation was a good thing. It felt that you should have a 10% turnover every year as the interests of employees and the company change and the 10% turnover keeps out “deadweight” employees from dragging the company down.
To that end, yearly reviews had three ratings: Accomplished(5%), Achieves(85%), Needs Improvement(10%). A NI rating was an invitation to the door (I only ever saw one person remain after an NI rating). Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (RHGPo) 129
Maybe Germany can raise its own army and go and fight in Ukraine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Obligatory: Yeah, we tried that. -- An Austrian paperhanger Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (oIV3h) 130
I know an Indian couple, motel owners (Go figure) that are totally Americanized. Both have veddy, veddy, Brit accents, and both come from money back in the old country. They are not so Americanized because they (both he and she) will drop everything for a Cricket match on satellite TV.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 *** Many years ago, working at the graduate school office, I had a Indian-looking young woman come in to ask some questions. She was pretty and had a "Received Pronunciation" accent, i.e., BBC-announcer style. Charming, and I would have asked her out . . . but she smelled like fresh earth. Potting soil from Walmart. Not revolting, but disturbing enough that I passed. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (J2vNu) 131
122 You have to put in a new wax ring every time you lift the toilet. And your five vans are paid off and the crews are paid every week.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (V5eKu) 132
AI can't do bodywork or metal shaping. However, with Biden destroying the auto industry and eliminating gasoline, there may not be a need for that much longer.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1) 133
TP, mazel tov on your son's wedding tomorrow!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (+87un) 134
The financial sector is long overdue for a culling. Way overstaffed with people doing nothing and producing nothing. And they want to trade carbon credits!
What do you do for a living? I sell made up financial instruments based on air. Fuck off. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (JTwsP) 135
That, and all the sounds are "voiced." You know the difference between "voiced" sounds, where you use your larynx (the "th" sound in "this," for instance), and unvoiced, where you don't (the "th" in "think")? *Every* phoneme in Indian languages it seems is voiced, because they work the voice box on every sound in English.
Technically, all sounds pass through the larynx. But with voiceless sounds, the vocal cords don't vibrate. With voiced sounds, they do. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (9yWhg) 136
Learn to hoe!
Posted by: Ms.Lindsay Graham at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (5vxvF) 137
we should want all job types to remain in this country. We need all types of jobs to remain in this country. Self sufficiency and national security depend on it.
_____ This reminds me of the baby formula shortage early in Biden's sham presidency. The feds shut down the only manufacturing plant in the US (I may be mis-remembering, maybe there were two) for spurious reasons. And the feds dragged their feet on receiving shipments from overseas. Another example showing that the left hates the people they rule over. Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (gakDF) 138
Can't wait for the offshored code to be held up because Bangalore doesn't want to release it. This happened to me at my last 'hi-tech' job. The dot Indians put in their status reports that the product was complete; but, they would not release it because they felt the US engineers would find issues and make Bangalore look bad.
It was *such* a joy to work with them. /s In addition this is why I went back to school and got a BS in Nursing: It is still difficult to offshore hospital care. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (bhlvH) 139
136 Learn to hoe!
Posted by: Ms.Lindsay Graham at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (5vxvF) There's always a market for that! Posted by: Willie Brown at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (PiwSw) Posted by: ... at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (OCZ4p) 141
My late mom would routinely (half-but only half-jokingly) threaten I'd wind up going to technical college if I didn't get my academics in order.
Joke's on, well, both of us. I'd probably be better off today if I had gone that route. Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (OUMaO) 142
Maybe Germany can raise its own army and go and fight in Ukraine.
The current German government has been very reluctant to support escalating things in Ukraine, probably because they are worried giving more support to Alternative for Deutschland. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (uxCna) 143
White collar jobs were being offshored thirty years ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2024 11:27 AM (63Dwl) ++++ Yup. Now, it's moving up the stack. That was inevitable. It's been a consistent march in high tech. First, it was customer service (minimal training, easy). Then it was basic tech support. Then it was intermediate tech support and basic development. Then it was advanced tech support and intermediate development. Now it's advanced development. It's similar in other industries. First it was the easy paperwork stuff. But then it marches up. The easy stuff that moved from "high-cost" America to "low-cost" India moved from "high-cost" India to "low-cost" Malaysia and Egypt as the intermediate stuff moved from "high-cost America" to "medium-cost" India. And the cycle continues. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (d04cU) 144
This game is finished. I had a very good run - better than most - but it's over. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (d04cU) What do you do (other than being a cop)? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3) 145
TP, mazel tov on your son's wedding tomorrow!
Posted by: San Franpsycho I did not know about this. Congratulations, Tonypete! Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (9yWhg) 146
This reminds me of the baby formula shortage early in Biden's sham presidency. The feds shut down the only manufacturing plant in the US (I may be mis-remembering, maybe there were two) for spurious reasons. And the feds dragged their feet on receiving shipments from overseas. Another example showing that the left hates the people they rule over. Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (gakDF) That was Trump's fault. He said pussy 20 years ago. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1) 147
I can't really speak to skilled trades because I live in Louisiana and work blue collar.There is no shortage of skilled trades down here.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (5vxvF) 148
I speak for every sweaty-collar worker in saying please do not offshore the laptop workers. Nobody wants to try to teach somebody that doesn't know which end of a hammer to hold how to weld.
Posted by: Fozzy at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (/Jyns) Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (OUMaO) 150
Learn to mow, edge, trim, & blow.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4I/2K) I got the last one covered, Boss. Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (8zz6B) 151
East Asia’s Coming Population Collapse And How It Will Reshape World Politics
https://tinyurl.com/mr2ws4m2 Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+) ======= How will they rule the world, then? They won't. Skynet will. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (CsUN+) 152
Technically, all sounds pass through the larynx. But with voiceless sounds, the vocal cords don't vibrate. With voiced sounds, they do.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 *** Right. It's that constant vibration that wears the speaker, and the listener, down. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu) 153
The current German government has been very reluctant to support escalating things in Ukraine, probably because they are worried giving more support to Alternative for Deutschland.
And yeah, bad memories probably have something to do with that too. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (uxCna) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg) 155
Go read you some India tech written code.
Good luck. It's spaghetti garbage. They cut and paste everything. They hack. They're not good programmers. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (L/fGl) 157
153 And yeah, bad memories probably have something to do with that too.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (uxCna) ======== "Of what?" -Public School educated girl at pro-Hamas protest Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO) 158
San Franpsycho - thank you !!
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (oIV3h) 159
What do you do (other than being a cop)?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3) ++++ I work in high-tech. Software. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (d04cU) 160
On Morning Joe -John Kasich is an efn idiot. Says the TFG trial won't impact the election. Says we have two wars. Says people had it better economically under Trump. Sure prices were lower during the pandemic because businesses lowered prices to sell. Kasich never ran for President in the general.
I turn the channel whenever he's on. I saw him on a show a couple of weeks ago and he said a couple of things that upset me. He speaks republican. They twist themselves, David Brooks like, to justify the opposition as the enemy. They are a machine guided by a psyops of motivated money. He's not backing trump, but he was pointing out all the "difficulties" the Dems have. spouted the old "it's the economy, stupid" line from Clinton and studiously ignored the women's issues like abortion and general women's healthcare. He's still an old guard republican. One particularly stupid claim is Biden looks weak and trump looks strong. trump looks strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out? while Joe is campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (ycI94) 161
it’s ironic that some white-collar workers who sneered at blue collar workers losing their jobs are now suffering the same fate, we should want all job types to remain in this country.
Oh, we could stand to off-shore some paper-pushers. About three miles, sitting at desk buoys, enjoying wind, solar, and hydro power. Posted by: t-bird at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (DKHqY) 162
"White collar jobs were being offshored thirty years ago."
'Business Reengineering,' the early 90's mgmt fad. Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (MvF+J) 163
One particularly stupid claim is Biden looks weak and trump looks strong. trump looks strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out? while Joe is campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (ycI94) Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (Akjoo) 164
Right. It's that constant vibration that wears the speaker, and the listener, down.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu) It is tiresoooome... Posted by: Vocal Fry at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (XPM1I) 165
>To that end, yearly reviews had three ratings: Accomplished(5%), Achieves(85%), Needs Improvement(10%). A NI rating was an invitation to the door (I only ever saw one person remain after an NI rating).
Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (RHGPo) I was a middle manager at a very large financial services company when Six Sigma was all the rage. Exec leadership decided to double down on force ranking employees into similar buckets. The ranking was conducted as a group exercise with each manager pleading his/her case as to why some random employee should be ranked one way or another. And every team no matter how small had to follow the standard bell curve. It was dehumanizing. Had to go home and shower with a wire brush to get that stink off of me. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (GTqXr) 166
Mannix- hope you find something you like to do.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (R4t5M) 167
Tonypete!
TP, mazel tov on your son's wedding tomorrow! Posted by: San Franpsycho I did not know about this. Congratulations, Tonypete! Posted by: Bulgaroctonus Congratulations!🍾 Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (RJiwi) 168
Definitely not the economy as long as Democrats can convince the sluts and simps that murdering your child is a sacred right.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (5vxvF) 169
One particularly stupid claim is Biden looks weak and trump looks strong. trump looks strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out? while Joe is campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (ycI94) -- They really do live in a different universe, don't they? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (7fElN) 170
"Software, eveningwear, ladies lingerie."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (Zz0t1) 171
142 Maybe Germany can raise its own army and go and fight in Ukraine.
The current German government has been very reluctant to support escalating things in Ukraine, probably because they are worried giving more support to Alternative for Deutschland. Posted by: The ARC of History! ______ Fascists make a comeback in Germany! https://tinyurl.com/45as45cy Links to a "fact check" article which in itself is a good example of the mendaciousness of the genre. Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (gakDF) 172
Always interesting. One of the cherrins is learning how to weld, and the other is interested too. Both are pursuing potential careers in using their hands, not wanting to work in an office.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (A2E7p) 173
169 One particularly stupid claim is Biden looks weak and trump looks strong. trump looks strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out? while Joe is campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (ycI94) -- They really do live in a different universe, don't they? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 11:34 AM (7fElN) ======= "Big money is on our side because Democrats represent the working class!" Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO) 174
To that end, yearly reviews had three ratings: Accomplished(5%), Achieves(85%), Needs Improvement(10%). A NI rating was an invitation to the door (I only ever saw one person remain after an NI rating).
It sounds appealing, at least to management, but if you're in a business that relies on innovation, you've just told your workforce that working on anything that isn't guaranteed to be a profit center in a year will kill your career. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (CsUN+) 175
I work in high-tech. Software.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (d04cU) Are you getting laid off or are you just reading 'writing on the wall?' Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1) 176
Thanks B! Perhaps apropos, his wife to be is a (Catholic) Indian heritage woman that has her own CPA firm here. No elephants at the ceremony though - that's for Hindus.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (oIV3h) 177
In fairness, if NYC were to be ran totally by an offshore crime syndicate (Y'know, like then Mafia, not like the one that's running it now), it'd probably be more efficient than it is now, and fewer innocent people would be hurt.
Posted by: American Hawkman at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (skAOD) 178
'Business Reengineering,' the early 90's mgmt fad.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (MvF+J) ++++ The one I see recently is "nearshoring." It's the replacement for "offshoring." Traditional "offshoring" is shipping jobs and work functions to India, Asia and recently Africa. Offshoring is expensive and logistically challenging, especially as the former "cheap" people are now more expensive. "Nearshoring" is hauling stuff back. Not back home, mind you, but to someplace in the hemisphere. Costa Rica is a big target, so is Mexico. Deal with easier logistics and the payscales aren't much if any higher than in India. For high tech, anyway. Not sure about other industries. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (d04cU) 179
trump looks strong sitting hunched over and small in court every day with truth after truth of his crimes comes out?
while Joe is campaigning all over the nation and fundraising like crazy. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions Make those drugs legal! Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (RJiwi) 180
The Coming Population Collapse isn’t just an East Asia thing.
All of the countries (China, Russia, US, EU) with major urban centers will experience this population decline. The only good reason for Biden’s open border is to replace the missing native population growth. Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo) 181
I'd think the problem with many, or most, blue-collar jobs is that they're physically demanding. Not just lifting and toting, but bending, twisting and turning. Also that you don't often get a nice air-conditioned place to work. Likely you're finished by 50. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (MoZTd) 182
Software is an unstable place to be in IT right now for sure.
Companies are rushing to try and get AI to write code for them Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (AJDwy) 183
Nobody works for a living because they want to.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 10, 2024 11:15 AM (+yhUM) Stormy Daniels does. Posted by: BurtTC at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (dGCAG) 184
The only good reason for Biden’s open border is to replace the missing native population growth.
Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo) We can only use so many dishwashers and housekeepers Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (Akjoo) 185
In fairness, if NYC were to be ran totally by an offshore crime syndicate (Y'know, like then Mafia, not like the one that's running it now), it'd probably be more efficient than it is now, and fewer innocent people would be hurt.
Posted by: American Hawkman Yakuza. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (RJiwi) 186
It's not the only reason for open borders. It is only going on in majority white nations. Every one. This is about getting rid of whites once and for all.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (5vxvF) Posted by: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (4I/2K) 188
In addition this is why I went back to school and got a BS in Nursing: It is still difficult to offshore hospital care.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (bhlvH) True (ish). It's not technically off-shoring when we do it. Posted by: Canada, sending our sick to you for the care they can't get here. at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (FCbAQ) 189
Are you getting laid off or are you just reading 'writing on the wall?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1) ++++ Unless something radically changes, I'm being laid off. I have my last day and severance package in place. I've known for some time. It is not a surprise. It *was* a surprise when I got the information, though, because I expected to be terminated on the day I got the extension. Neither I nor my coworkers were surprised to be pink-slipped. I have some sympathy in the general sense, but I have little sympathy for my colleagues who are now panicking. We knew the odds. We've known for a year. This is a surprise or an unexpected development for precisely nobody in my group. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (d04cU) 190
"Nearshoring" is hauling stuff back. Not back home, mind you, but to someplace in the hemisphere. Costa Rica is a big target, so is Mexico. Deal with easier logistics and the payscales aren't much if any higher than in India.
For high tech, anyway. Not sure about other industries. There is the small problem that Mexico is a narco state run by homicidal thugs... Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (CsUN+) 191
I'd think the problem with many, or most, blue-collar jobs is that they're physically demanding. Not just lifting and toting, but bending, twisting and turning. Also that you don't often get a nice air-conditioned place to work. Likely you're finished by 50.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (MoZTd) --- Yep. I know a few guys in blue-collar jobs in their late 50s and early 60s. Their bodies are spent. They can't keep up with the younger guys, but they do have a wealth of experience to share. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (7fElN) 192
Going commando > Going Pirate
Posted by: Britney Spears at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (ibTVg) 193
it’s ironic that some white-collar workers who sneered at blue collar workers losing their jobs are now suffering the same fate, we should want all job types to remain in this country.
- On topic: After the "ME TOO" bullcrap, men realized it was dangerous to be around women and made professional decisions to avoid it. They didn't join their teams. Men's productivity remained the same or improved. Guess what happened to women's productivity? Women who had the same qualifications, ability, access to resources, etc. as the men. Go ahead. Guess. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (KvRIM) 194
There is the small problem that Mexico is a narco state run by homicidal thugs...
Mexico has a bright future if they can get that under control. They need to emulate El Salvador. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (CsUN+) 195
>"Nearshoring" is hauling stuff back. Not back home, mind you, but to someplace in the hemisphere. Costa Rica is a big target, so is Mexico. Deal with easier logistics and the payscales aren't much if any higher than in India.
For high tech, anyway. Not sure about other industries. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (d04cU) Accenture was big on 'nearshoring' ten years ago. Doesn't matter if it's Jugdish or Jose doing the work, it's going to suck and no one factors in the time and expense or rewriting shit code. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (GTqXr) 196
No elephants at the ceremony though - that's for Hindus.
Posted by: Tonypete Reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons where Apu gets married, and Homer tries to stop it by crashing the wedding dressed as the elephant god Ganesh. "Stop! Stop! Ganesh commands you!" LOL Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (9yWhg) 197
You could easily make a suit flame retardant. The tie could be restrained by multiple clips.
The eyes? He's done welding for life in a few minutes. AI shows its ass again. Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (FCbAQ) They actually make small goggles like that with auto-darkening lenses for arc welding, as an alternative to the traditional full-face shield. Could be very useful for working in close quarters, like under a car. I may order a set. Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (8zz6B) 198
In addition this is why I went back to school and got a BS in Nursing: It is still difficult to offshore hospital care.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron They don't offshore nursing care. They onshore it. They bring in "nurses" from a bunch of different countries. Kinda like Dot Indian doctors. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:40 AM (RJiwi) 199
OT, I was looking on instapundit and saw this headline -
“The more titles an organization has, the more it will select for people who really care about titles. . . . Some organizations, especially government agencies, tend to select for individuals who prioritize status-seeking over the search for the best answers.” --- I confess I totally read titles, as titties. Not sure what that says about me, but I'm sure it's something... Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 11:40 AM (53oGX) 200
Guess what happened to women's productivity? Women who had the same qualifications, ability, access to resources, etc. as the men. Yeah I get all the emails from my megacorp that you have to "lean in" to mentor women. Well, that's what was happening before me too you assholes and you only get to pick yes or no, not do it in a way that no woman will ever get offended with... Posted by: 18-1 at May 10, 2024 11:40 AM (ibTVg) 201
Neither I nor my coworkers were surprised to be pink-slipped. I have some sympathy in the general sense, but I have little sympathy for my colleagues who are now panicking. We knew the odds. We've known for a year. This is a surprise or an unexpected development for precisely nobody in my group. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (d04cU) Ah, Ok. Well, my sympathies, sir. That's an unbelievably tough thing to go through. Glad you're getting a decent severance that will buy you some time. You'll land on your feet. Godspeed, my virtual friend. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1) 202
We're the economy of the future.
And always will be. Posted by: Brazil at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (s7YKA) 203
Go ahead. Guess. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams __________ They networked and shared experiences in a mutually supportive environment and conquered the world! Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (MoZTd) 204
This brunette in a dress is glad her husband works for the Party instead of some outfit subject to market forces:
http://tiny.cc/3dg1yz Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (d04cU) 205
Going commando > Going Pirate
Posted by: Britney Spears at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (ibTVg) I just threw up in my mouth a little. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (Zz0t1) 206
>To that end, yearly reviews had three ratings: Accomplished(5%), Achieves(85%), Needs Improvement(10%). A NI rating was an invitation to the door (I only ever saw one person remain after an NI rating).
Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (RHGPo) Every manager had to conform to the percentages . The only saving grace was that you could assign some ratings to employees who left on their own. This meant you could give the NI to the guy who left 6 months ago. Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (RHGPo) 207
The institution where I work tried outsourcing the job I do (instructional design) to our colleagues in the university system as a whole. Turns out the engineering faculty felt they were not getting their money's worth, so as of this summer, all instructional design will continue to take place on my campus.
Although we still do a lot of Zoom-based meetings, the faculty feel they get a better experience with a local (i.e., on-campus) instructional design team than with the university system one that serves all four campuses. If we outsourced that to India or Malaysia, the engineering faculty would outright revolt. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (7fElN) 208
Country star Kevin Hernandez is shot dead along with his entire family in hail of 150 bullets in horror highway ambush
https://shorturl.at/gijvw Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (L/fGl) 209
All of the countries (China, Russia, US, EU) with major urban centers will experience this population decline.
The only good reason for Biden’s open border is to replace the missing native population growth. You are correct that fertility is inversely related to urbanization. The problem with Biden's open border (among many) is that many (most?) of them then head to NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (CsUN+) 210
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This reminds me of the baby formula shortage early in Biden's sham presidency. The feds shut down the only manufacturing plant in the US (I may be mis-remembering, maybe there were two) for spurious reasons. And the feds dragged their feet on receiving shipments from overseas. Another example showing that the left hates the people they rule over. Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:29 AM (gakDF) That was Trump's fault. He said pussy 20 years ago. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zz0t1) Since then more mother's had to switch to formula, because patriarchy... Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (53oGX) 211
They actually make small goggles like that with auto-darkening lenses for arc welding, as an alternative to the traditional full-face shield. Could be very useful for working in close quarters, like under a car. I may order a set.
Posted by: Kamala Harris ______ There's a joke here somewhere. Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:41 AM (gakDF) 212
True (ish).
It's not technically off-shoring when we do it. Posted by: Canada, sending our sick to you for the care they can't get here MAID has entered the chat. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:42 AM (bhlvH) 213
>Neither I nor my coworkers were surprised to be pink-slipped. I have some sympathy in the general sense, but I have little sympathy for my colleagues who are now panicking. We knew the odds. We've known for a year. This is a surprise or an unexpected development for precisely nobody in my group.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (d04cU) Hopefully your package is awesome and you can take some time to figure out what's next on your own terms. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:42 AM (GTqXr) 214
Ah, Ok. Well, my sympathies, sir. That's an unbelievably tough thing to go through. Glad you're getting a decent severance that will buy you some time. You'll land on your feet.
Godspeed, my virtual friend. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1) ++++ Thanks, Sponge! I'll be fine. I'm well-prepared for it. It's just a weird environment. I've never been through an extended termination period before. Odd dynamics. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:42 AM (d04cU) 215
>To that end, yearly reviews had three ratings: Accomplished(5%), Achieves(85%), Needs Improvement(10%). A NI rating was an invitation to the door (I only ever saw one person remain after an NI rating).
Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:28 AM (RHGPo) I was a middle manager at a very large financial services company when Six Sigma was all the rage. Exec leadership decided to double down on force ranking employees into similar buckets. The ranking was conducted as a group exercise with each manager pleading his/her case as to why some random employee should be ranked one way or another. And every team no matter how small had to follow the standard bell curve. It was dehumanizing. Had to go home and shower with a wire brush to get that stink off of me. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (GTqXr) I was at Tenneco when they had that system in the '90s. Then they layered on 360 degrees performance reviews. Hilarity ensued as "fuck over your coworker for rankings" became endemic. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:43 AM (4I/2K) 216
They bring in "nurses" from a bunch of different countries. __________ When I was hospitalized with pneumonia most of the floor nurses were Nigerian. Nicest, calmest ladies you can find. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:43 AM (MoZTd) 217
Men and women in the trades are in high demand. And the demand will only grow higher. We're going to need more power plants, so we'll need a LOT of pipefitters and plumbers, concrete, welders for fitting rebar, millwork, etc., etc., DEI staff, not so much.
Posted by: mrp at May 10, 2024 11:43 AM (rj6Yv) 218
Deputy assistant secretary for the secretary of deputy assistants.
Posted by: The Pentagon at May 10, 2024 11:44 AM (s7YKA) 219
Are you a Six Sigma Black Belt?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 10, 2024 11:44 AM (R4t5M) 220
They don't offshore nursing care. They onshore it. They bring in "nurses" from a bunch of different countries. Kinda like Dot Indian doctors.
When my dad was in a nursing home, 100% of the staff was African. Not AA, just African. They are apparently the only people willing to do some of the unpleasant things required. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+) 221
Could be very useful for working in close quarters, like under a car. I may order a set.
Posted by: Kamala Harris That's an interesting sock fail right there. Besides cars, what else do work "under," Kamala? Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:44 AM (9yWhg) 222
This is 100% due to recent corporate tax law changes.
Posted by: DocMerlin at May 10, 2024 11:45 AM (jRh4q) 223
After the "ME TOO" bullcrap, men realized it was dangerous to be around women and made professional decisions to avoid it. They didn't join their teams.
And even if you work with them, if you have any sense you never are alone with them with the office door closed, you never go out socializing after work with them, and you never take business trips with them. Kind of reduces the whole "mentorship" thing, but that's what society demands. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 10, 2024 11:45 AM (uxCna) 224
I was at Tenneco when they had that system in the '90s. Then they layered on 360 degrees performance reviews. Hilarity ensued as "fuck over your coworker for rankings" became endemic.
Posted by: Count de Monet Why it's almost as if they brought in spoiled MBA children to manage (not lead) the place with no thought given to experience and intelligence. Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:45 AM (oIV3h) 225
I was a middle manager at a very large financial services company when Six Sigma was all the rage. Exec leadership decided to double down on force ranking employees into similar buckets. The ranking was conducted as a group exercise with each manager pleading his/her case as to why some random employee should be ranked one way or another. ...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:33 AM (GTqXr) ++++ Ugh. My old company had something similar. Each manager goes in with his own team rankings. Then they would argue with each other to make the entire ranked list per senior manager. Then the senior managers would rejigger the list according to their own preferences, then go do the same. Then the directors. Then the senior directors. I once referred to those "hash it out" meetings ("stack-ranking working session," they were called) as the "Thunderdome Phase" of annual reviews. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (d04cU) 226
Trump can't even hold a golf club in court while Joe is out making 18 hole in ones!!
Posted by: ... at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (OCZ4p) 227
Yeah I get all the emails from my megacorp that you have to "lean in" to mentor women.
____ Not sure how getting a better peek at the cleavage will help mentor women, but, sure! Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (gakDF) 228
They don't offshore nursing care. They onshore it. They bring in "nurses" from a bunch of different countries. Kinda like Dot Indian doctors. Posted by: rickb223 True for doctors; but, not nurses at the VA where I worked. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (bhlvH) 229
182 Software is an unstable place to be in IT right now for sure.
Companies are rushing to try and get AI to write code for them Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 10, 2024 11:37 AM (AJDwy) I used AI to write a couple scripts for me. It saved thousands of dollars. The script wasn't perfect, but because of how the consulting contract is stated they charge enormous $ for developing scripts, but nothing to help with scripts that exist... so for $40, I saved about 10K Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (53oGX) 230
>I was at Tenneco when they had that system in the '90s. Then they layered on 360 degrees performance reviews. Hilarity ensued as "fuck over your coworker for rankings" became endemic.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:43 AM (4I/2K) Damn, I forgot about that. I was on a sr. management track and it was mandatory for me to do that. Talk about opening a big bag of suck. Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 10, 2024 11:46 AM (GTqXr) 231
You could easily make a suit flame retardant. The tie could be restrained by multiple clips.
The eyes? He's done welding for life in a few minutes. AI shows its ass again. Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 10, 2024 11:19 AM (FCbAQ) They actually make small goggles like that with auto-darkening lenses for arc welding, as an alternative to the traditional full-face shield. Could be very useful for working in close quarters, like under a car. I may order a set. Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 10, 2024 11:39 AM (8zz6B) That may be true, but the AI generated image up top shows the weld arc and still you can see through the goggles to the eyes of the soon to be blind welder. Just pointing out that there's no intelligence behind AI Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (FCbAQ) 232
Woke up from a weird dream
I was ranting to some relatively young mocha-colored woman about how it was usually useless to try and convince an obese person to stop eating and lose weight. After my rant was over, the chick left, telling me I was an asshole. I then asked her why specifically I was an asshole. Like a typical libtard, she couldn't say. Then I woke up. It was an epic rant, though. I used my tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (ufFY8) 233
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Thanks, Sponge! I'll be fine. I'm well-prepared for it. It's just a weird environment. I've never been through an extended termination period before. Odd dynamics. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:42 AM (d04cU) Yeah, there are usually 2 types in that situation: Those that work things through till it's all done, or they get pissed and do little to 1/2 assed work till the cut date. Been there, seen that. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1) 234
Unless something radically changes, I'm being laid off. I have my last day and severance package in place. I've known for some time. It is not a surprise. It *was* a surprise when I got the information, though, because I expected to be terminated on the day I got the extension.
Neither I nor my coworkers were surprised to be pink-slipped. I have some sympathy in the general sense, but I have little sympathy for my colleagues who are now panicking. We knew the odds. We've known for a year. This is a surprise or an unexpected development for precisely nobody in my group. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (d04cU) I'm sorry to hear that Joe, they pretty recently moved you out there didn't they? (if I recall correctly) Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (53oGX) 235
The problem with Biden's open border (among many) is that many (most?) of them then head to NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.
We'll force them into the vast unpopulated spaces of flyover country! Posted by: The Washington Post! at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (uxCna) 236
... It was an epic rant, though.
I used my tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (ufFY ++++ LOL! I'm buckin' your trend so far! Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (d04cU) 237
I had worked for one of those “Lucent spinoffs that started with the letter ‘a’”
When we spunoff, we had 14,400 employees and $2 billion in debt from Lucent. Due to market forces, things started to go bad. There were wave after wave of layoffs, always on a Wednesday, preceded by empty boxes showing up the day before. By the time, we were bought/merged 6 years later, we had 2,800 employees. Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (RHGPo) 238
Woke up from a weird dream
I was ranting to some relatively young mocha-colored woman about how it was usually useless to try and convince an obese person to stop eating and lose weight. After my rant was over, the chick left, telling me I was an asshole. I then asked her why specifically I was an asshole. Like a typical libtard, she couldn't say. Then I woke up. You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (CsUN+) 239
229 Study AI and its applications, not 'IT' and 'software.' AI-literacy is the new computer-literacy.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (MvF+J) 240
People who are involved in the making of actual products are the real economy. To think otherwise is folly. Those areas are where true value is put in.
That and merit and real achievement are most important. Can’t run an economy on making movies. Only real building. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (17s+e) 241
Yeah I get all the emails from my megacorp that you have to "lean in" to mentor women. ___________ "I'm sorry, that's mansplaining and degrading to my colleague. Also I do not want to risk being accused falsely of harassment." Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (MoZTd) 242
I'm sorry to hear that Joe, they pretty recently moved you out there didn't they? (if I recall correctly)
Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 11:47 AM (53oGX) ++++ No, *I* moved. The company tolerated it but did not initiate it. I am one of the people in the "Great Migration." But I was under no illusions about what it would mean when the party ended. I have no regrets. I am going to earn less. It's cool. My life is markedly better. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (d04cU) 243
Learn to weld?
******* My dad grew up in Weld County, CO. No welding in his upbringing. Farming was the economic basis. Wheat and dairy cattle. Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (991eG) 244
228 The top nurse on my team at the VA is a fellow Jarhead. Put in four years and went to school through the VA. Up in Erie, the old gal that was top nurse was even consulted by the doctors. Great old gal, still wore a nurse's habit.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (V5eKu) 245
Deputy assistant secretary for the secretary of deputy assistants.
Posted by: The Pentagon You laugh, but when you're the acting deputy assistant secretary for the under-secretary of deputy assistants, that's a dream job. Posted by: t-bird at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (3fFru) 246
Corporate struggle sessions are fun.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (R4t5M) 247
It's just a weird environment. I've never been through an extended termination period before. Odd dynamics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix I wore a red shirt every day for my last 2 weeks. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:50 AM (bhlvH) 248
You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (CsUN+) _________ All dreams are indicative of unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies. If they were normal, shrinks couldn't make money. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:50 AM (MoZTd) Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:50 AM (oIV3h) 250
For better or worse, employers are realizing that if a job can be done at a kitchen table in suburban America, it can also probably be done in Bangalore or Moldova, but for much less.
_______ Well, up to a point. I just spent almost 2 hours trying to get a problem with my email worked out. Billy Fish wasn't very good at it. Not that I've had great luck with American customer service. I haven't. But at least I can understand what they say. Well, maybe AI will help, but I doubt it. OTOH, higher level white collar jobs are often expendable. Posted by: Eeyore at May 10, 2024 11:51 AM (1bNHn) 251
When I was laid up in hospital some years ago (thankfully) the nurses were mostly young women, 11 out of 12 were excellent and 2 of those were literal angels sent from heaven. One little blonde girl I will never forget and she was cute as a button too. I don't know how they do it.
Had one guy nurse on the first day that was a real POS, and the one older female was a battle axe. I thought she was gonna beat me with a ruler, and I really wasn't in the mood for that. Posted by: ... at May 10, 2024 11:51 AM (OCZ4p) 252
The firm I work for has about 1/4 of its employees in India and growing. Besides wage differences with US based employees, we can't hire stateside fast enough for our expansion thus we we have expanded our presence in India.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (XT+5H) 253
OTOH, higher level white collar jobs are often expendable.
Posted by: Eeyore What is it that you would say you do here? -- The two Bobs Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (oIV3h) 254
All dreams are indicative of unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies. If they were normal, shrinks couldn't make money. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:50 AM (MoZTd) I have dreams often where I'm trying to tee off or hit the next shot, but the environment, ball location, tee box, does not condone such an action and I spend an exorbitant amount of time trying to figure out how to take the shot. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1) 255
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‘ The financial sector is long overdue for a culling’ AFAIAC, the only purpose of the financial sector is to generate capital for manufacturing, agriculture or infrastructure. If they’re not doing that I assume that it’s some kind of parasitic Ponzi scheme and they should all be arrested. Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (jbnUc) 256
I wore a red shirt every day for my last 2 weeks.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron Good one. Posted by: Tonypete Oh man. I have now got to find a red Polo shirt and have a star trek emblem embroidered on it. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (RJiwi) 257
Buck, You know what type of programming won't get offshored: PLC programming. You have to be able to get physically there (most of the time, if the system is properly air-gapped) and 60% of the coding is dealing with exception handling, that occurs after initial loading and running the system. My background is SIE (Systems and Industrial Engr), of which I tell the kids I have taught programming: This is a skill that puts food on the table. No one can take that from you, if you keep relevant. When it needs to work with the physical, you can't offshore it easily.
Posted by: SkinnerVic at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (QV2fW) 258
You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (CsUN+) LOL Seriously, I have noticed the dreams I remember have been those where I am explaining something to someone, before waking up. Like I am downloading and expressing past stories and knowledge. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (ufFY8) Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (MvF+J) 260
I wore a red shirt every day for my last 2 weeks.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:50 AM (bhlvH) ++++ Ha! I might have to go buy a couple of red shirts. I need shirts anyway. Most of my old ones look like clown clothes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (d04cU) 261
Oh man. I have now got to find a red Polo shirt and have a star trek emblem embroidered on it. Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2024 11:52 AM (RJiwi) Then, just roam around the building barking things in a Scottish accent. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1) 262
Wheat and dairy cattle.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 11:49 AM (991eG) I'm not an Oxford comma guy, but I'll admit on my first skim-through this I thought "what are wheat cattle?" Posted by: spindrift at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (OguvZ) 263
Farming was the economic basis. Wheat and dairy cattle.
Posted by: Muldoon This country was a much better place when most people lived on farms, or otherwise worked in the ag sector. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:54 AM (9yWhg) 264
260 Ha! I might have to go buy a couple of red shirts. I need shirts anyway. Most of my old ones look like clown clothes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (d04cU) ======= When you got GAINZ, flaunt it! Flaunt it! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:54 AM (GBKbO) 265
"the dreams I remember have been those where I am explaining something to someone"
Mine were of me pleading and begging and threatening people to just F'N PLEASE do things the way I showed them. Running from one cubicle to the next, raging at them. Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:55 AM (MvF+J) 266
I'm not an Oxford comma guy, but I'll admit on my first skim-through this I thought "what are wheat cattle?"
Posted by: spindrift They give Cream of Wheat. Duh. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg) 267
Farming was the economic basis. Wheat and dairy cattle.
Posted by: Muldoon This country was a much better place when most people lived on farms, or otherwise worked in the ag sector. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus This would have been a great comment if you had socked Thomas Jefferson. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (CsUN+) 268
California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO) 270
You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 11:48 AM (CsUN+) That's true of a lot of people around here... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (d9fT1) 271
268 California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) ========= This is obviously the work of undercover MAGAts in the California government to make Newsom look bad. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO) 272
Last dream I remember I was hanging out with a bunch of exotic birds.
Posted by: ... at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (OCZ4p) 273
265 I uncovered several code and design defects while dreaming.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 11:57 AM (MvF+J) 274
>268 California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) Whoops! Whoopsies! Posted by: Gov Hair Gel at May 10, 2024 11:57 AM (GTqXr) 275
California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
------- 20 billion here and 20 billion there and pretty soon you're talking about real money. Posted by: ... at May 10, 2024 11:57 AM (OCZ4p) 276
California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) Check the other desk drawer! Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:57 AM (4I/2K) 277
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) 278
"Nearshoring" is hauling stuff back. Not back home, mind you, but to someplace in the hemisphere. Costa Rica is a big target, so is Mexico. Deal with easier logistics and the payscales aren't much if any higher than in India.
For high tech, anyway. Not sure about other industries. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:35 AM (d04cU) Maybe you could move to Costa Rica, and live as an ex-pat, and get your old job back as a near-shore contractor. Costa Rica has some pretty sweet places to live. Posted by: Kamala Harris at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (8zz6B) 279
California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
------- Meh. That's just shit pants. Posted by: Jerry Nadler at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (Zz0t1) 280
When it needs to work with the physical, you can't offshore it easily.
Posted by: SkinnerVic at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (QV2fW) Yup. I did that stuff in steel mills, candy plants, food plants, and water plants, usually as a plant guy, then as a contractor. The only danger was getting laid off due to bullshit management contracting out your job, or cuts in positions when irrational downsizing was a thing. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (ufFY8) 281
I uncovered several code and design defects while dreaming.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs The benzene ring has entered the chat. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (9yWhg) 282
All those white collar types can come work for me at Arby's for a shift meal and minimum wage.
The skills they learn of operating one of my "stores" and moving "merchandise" to our "customer base" to maximize our "profit" and "bottom line" will help them in their future endeavors. No really....Hahahaha! I crack myself up. There is no future after Arby's! Suckers... Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (R/m4+) 283
Oh man. I have now got to find a red Polo shirt and have a star trek emblem embroidered on it. Posted by: rickb223 Just go by the pin, you don't want to ruin a nice red polo. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (bhlvH) 284
Hamas Now Refuses to Budge on Hostage Talks After Biden Halts Aid to Israel
- Foreign policy always was Biden's forte. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (L/fGl) 285
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) I have similar ones, only I have to pee and either the toilets are too disgusting or they're broke. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (Zz0t1) 286
The benzene ring has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus The Carbon atoms held hands and danced, amirite? Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (oIV3h) 287
The skills they learn of operating one of my "stores" and moving "merchandise" to our "customer base" to maximize our "profit" and "bottom line" will help them in their future endeavors. No really....Hahahaha! I crack myself up. There is no future after Arby's! Suckers... Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 10, 2024 11:59 AM (R/m4+) "Saus bisk and tay tays." Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Zz0t1) 288
Hello, friends! I am just wondering what in the world is happening in here!
Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (V+jSk) 289
208 Country star Kevin Hernandez is shot dead along with his entire family in hail of 150 bullets in horror highway ambush
https://shorturl.at/gijvw Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks If only they'd pass common sense gun safety legislation!!! Posted by: Brain dead Leftists at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (ycI94) 290
The "onshoring" will be met by an imported cheap foreign labor force. It's already happening. We are being replaced so that the oligarchs can get even richer.
Posted by: GOP sux at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Zzbjj) 291
Last dream I remember I was hanging out with a bunch of exotic birds.
Posted by: ... Austrailian? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (bhlvH) Posted by: August Kekule at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (CsUN+) 293
291 Last dream I remember I was hanging out with a bunch of exotic birds.
Posted by: ... Austrailian? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (bhlvH) ====== They were only swallows grasping coconuts by the husk. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO) 294
I wasn't aware when I moved that there is a very good welding course at a junior college near my new place. If nothing else it will help with fence maintenance!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (llON8) 295
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) I have that one all the time but I have to pee. Then I wake up because I really do have to pee. Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (XPM1I) 296
California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail. Posted by: Michael Bolton at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (4I/2K) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:01 PM (9yWhg) 298
You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies.
Posted by: Archimedes That's true of a lot of people around here... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ********** Oh, mine are resolved. Take that any way you want. Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (991eG) 299
Like I am downloading and expressing past stories and knowledge.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 11:53 AM (ufFY --- "Everything you know is wrong." --tagline from Jack L. Chalker's The Wonderland Gambit Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (7fElN) 300
159 What do you do (other than being a cop)?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 11:30 AM (KbCG3) ++++ I work in high-tech. Software. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:32 AM (d04cU) I work for a fintech company. Not sure skills or experience but I'd be happy to help if I could get you a soft landing. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (KbCG3) 301
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) We just call that "India". Posted by: Ken Patel, Owner of the Notell Motel at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (R/m4+) 302
I uncovered several code and design defects while dreaming.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs I never talk in my sleep so when I did it woke up the Betterhalf. What was I saying you ask? 0110011100, yeah, I was dreaming of programming a chip in binary. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (bhlvH) 303
Indiana GOP Congressional Primary Won by Woman Who Passed Away 2 Months Ago
- Well, at least she won't betray us. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (L/fGl) 304
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Oh, mine are resolved. Take that any way you want. Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (991eG) Resolved from the standpoint that tits are fun and pussy just feels good making me no homo. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1) 305
In much the same way that Dr. Peter Venkman viewed science as some sort of a dodge or hustle, so called principled free traders view trade policy. They are posturing for Globalist goodies and hoping to get laid at conferences by dim witted, low energy groupies. They always knew if was going to end in a mess. They just want to get paid and laid.
Posted by: The unvarnished truth at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (X5d3q) 306
After 8 years of retirement, my dreams have finally gone back to being not unpleasant. I used to punch and kick and yell while asleep. Don't think I'm doing that anymore.
Posted by: gp On Heavy Drugs at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (MvF+J) 307
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) --- Have you been spying on my dreams? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (7fElN) 308
271 268 California Gov. Newsom Under Fire After His Homelessness Council Is Unable to Account for $20+ Billion in Spending
- It was just here! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (L/fGl) ========= This is obviously the work of undercover MAGAts in the California government to make Newsom look bad. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO) Republicans POUNCE!! Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (53oGX) Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (991eG) 310
GOOGLE LAYS OFF 2000 WORKERS!!!! OMG
Buck Google has188000 workers. Please tell us what percent we're laid off. Use your calculator if needed Blue collar trade work isn't easy. Work Buck, tell us about your time in blue collar work, not including those couple of summers you worked helping paint or frame houses Posted by: Paul banned at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (PRfaJ) 311
I work for a fintech company. Not sure skills or experience but I'd be happy to help if I could get you a soft landing.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (KbCG3) ++++ Thank you. My E-Mail is in the sidebar if you care to. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (d04cU) 312
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I do contract work remotely now. I recognize that some guy in India can also do my job for less than what I'm being paid. So I have to keep on my toes to deliver a quality product, meet deadlines, respond quickly to questions and give the client confidence I understand the request they've made. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 11:14 AM (MoZTd) ---- .... abd you speak American English. Posted by: Ciampino - Vitreous Humour is funny glass #58 at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (qfLjt) 313
Learn to weld. In code.
Posted by: Nice SQL bead there at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Wc83a) 314
common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) --- Have you been spying on my dreams? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (7fElN) ++++ How common is this? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (d04cU) 315
Posted by: Paul banned at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (PRfaJ)
======== Damn, you do love your giant corporations who work hand in hand with government agencies to suppress speech. Fascist. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO) Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Zz0t1) 317
A common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) --- Have you been spying on my dreams? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (7fElN) Ah, yes. Ziss goes to a childhood trauma involving toilet training. *strokes beard* Posted by: Sigmund Freud at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (4I/2K) 318
Resolved from the standpoint that tits are fun and pussy just feels good making me no homo. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden _________ That means you have Oedipal impulses. You need treatment. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (MoZTd) 319
Oh no, not again.
Posted by: Paul's Neighbor's Chicken at May 10, 2024 12:06 PM (SYTee) 320
Resolved from the standpoint that tits are fun and pussy just feels good making me no homo.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden _________ That means you have Oedipal impulses. You need treatment. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (MoZTd) Ziss too. Posted by: Sigmund Freud at May 10, 2024 12:07 PM (4I/2K) 321
311 I work for a fintech company. Not sure skills or experience but I'd be happy to help if I could get you a soft landing.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (KbCG3) ++++ Thank you. My E-Mail is in the sidebar if you care to. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 12:04 PM (d04cU) Email sent. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 12:07 PM (KbCG3) 322
Paul you would be dead within a few months without other people providing for you.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at May 10, 2024 12:07 PM (17s+e) 323
Paul you would be dead within a few months without other people providing for you.
Someday his mother will pass on, and he can move out of the basement. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 12:08 PM (CsUN+) 324
Off, understandably sticky sock.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2024 12:08 PM (8zz6B) 325
298 You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies.
Posted by: Archimedes That's true of a lot of people around here... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ********** Oh, mine are resolved. Take that any way you want. Posted by: Muldoon at May 10, 2024 12:02 PM (991eG) I'll take it! Posted by: Admiral Lavine at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (53oGX) 326
Learn to weld. In code.
Posted by: Nice SQL bead there at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (Wc83a) Learn PLC programming - IC controls - most work is being done near the local plants being built. And there are a lot of R&D infrastructure plants being built right now... Posted by: Boswell at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (K+UlC) 327
323 Paul you would be dead within a few months without other people providing for you.
Someday his mother will pass on, and he can move out of the basement. Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 12:08 PM (CsUN+) ======= "Mother! What have you done?!" -Paul, finding the guest in the shower Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (GBKbO) Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (jbnUc) 329
I love people on the internet thinking they know everything about you IRL.
Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (BUXCz) 330
Someday his mother will pass on, and he can move out of the basement.
Posted by: Archimedes He'll stuff that bitch in freezer and collect the social security. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 10, 2024 12:10 PM (R4t5M) 331
329 I love people on the internet thinking they know everything about you IRL.
Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:09 PM (BUXCz) ======= All I know about you people is that Joe Mannix is definitely a cop. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO) 332
323 Paul will just prop Momma up in the rocking chair and start wearing her clothes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 12:10 PM (V5eKu) 333
Paul Schrader Wants to Direct Kevin Spacey in a Frank Sinatra Biopic
- I see that the ID channel is doing a deep dive into Spacey Kevin's, uh, problems. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl) 334
Hey, Piper! Thanks for the e-mail! I really appreciate it!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg) Posted by: JT at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (T4tVD) 336
If only the government would reduce their white collar workers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (MNhXM) 337
Good grief.
Local news says new program out to deliver breast milk from prisoner women to their baby. Another story is covering the Family Fare apartment sign. LOL. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (ufFY8) 338
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All I know about you people is that Joe Mannix is definitely a cop. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May It would be less obvious if he would stop denying it. Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (BUXCz) 339
It ain't warm out thar.
It ain't dry neither. That's today's accu-weather. Posted by: JT So fair and foul a day I have not seen. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:12 PM (9yWhg) 340
Hey, Piper! Thanks for the e-mail! I really appreciate it!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg) (She never sent ME an e-mail !) Posted by: JT at May 10, 2024 12:12 PM (T4tVD) 341
314 common dream I have is that I need to poop, but every toilet I can find is either incredibly nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg) --- Have you been spying on my dreams? Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 10, 2024 12:03 PM (7fElN) ++++ How common is this? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 12:05 PM (d04cU) Sick fucks. Posted by: Naked guy at a final exam for a class he never took at May 10, 2024 12:13 PM (Wc83a) 342
334 Hey, Piper! Thanks for the e-mail! I really appreciate it!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May I hope it works! Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:13 PM (BUXCz) 343
332 323 Paul will just prop Momma up in the rocking chair and start wearing her clothes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 12:10 PM (V5eKu) Headlines from 15 years ago... Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 12:13 PM (53oGX) 344
All I know about you people is that Joe Mannix is definitely a cop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May It would be less obvious if he would stop denying it. Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:11 PM (BUXCz) I thought he was a Private Eye...a SHAMUS ! Posted by: JT at May 10, 2024 12:13 PM (T4tVD) 345
You clearly have unresolved, latent homosexual tendencies.
Posted by: Archimedes That's true of a lot of people around here... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts. Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (oIV3h) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (9yWhg) 347
I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (oIV3h) ++++ You beat your wife? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (d04cU) 348
Had a good dream last night of a golfing buddy who passed in 2019. It was nice to see him again.
Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (MNhXM) 349
I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete I actually drive a Subaru. I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:15 PM (9yWhg) 350
OT but just saw this on Twitter, posted by Bill Canwright:
Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US made Stinger Missiles that the State Dept had supplied to Ansar al Sharia in Libya WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission. Sec State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a Private Arms Dealer named Marc Turi, but some of the shoulder fired Stinger Missiles ended up in Afghanistan where they were used against our own military. On July 25th, 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them. Not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the missile. The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to land and an ordnance team recovered the missile’s serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger Missiles kept in Qatar by the CIA. Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a "do-or-die" mission, which explains the Stand Down Orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege of the US Embassy. Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 12:15 PM (yeEu9) 351
All I know about you people is that Joe Mannix is definitely a cop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 10, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO) When I see him beat the shit out of an old lady with dementia for wandering out of a Walmart with $12 in unpaid merchandise then I'll believe you. Posted by: By their fruits ye shall know them at May 10, 2024 12:15 PM (Wc83a) 352
345 I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 I must be gay because I drive a mini cooper. 😁 Posted by: Piper at May 10, 2024 12:15 PM (BUXCz) 353
You can't even learn to code anymore. Posted by: Frank Barone at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (+oR7L) 354
Part 2:
It was the State Dept, NOT the CIA, that supplied the Stinger Missiles to our sworn enemies because Gen. Petraeus at CIA would not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential use against commercial aircraft. So then, Obama threw Gen. Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of Obama’s phony claim of a “spontaneous uprising caused by a YouTube video that insulted Muslims.” Obama and Hillary committed TREASON! THIS is what the investigation is all about, WHY she had a Private Server, (in order to delete the digital evidence), and WHY Obama, two weeks after the attack, told the UN that the attack was the result of the YouTube video, even though everyone KNEW it was not. Furthermore, the Taliban knew that the administration had aided and abetted the enemy WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission, so they began pressuring (blackmailing) the Obama Administration to release five Taliban generals being held at Guantanamo. Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (yeEu9) 355
Had a good dream last night of a golfing buddy who passed in 2019. It was nice to see him again.
Posted by: polynikes I had a brother who died in 2013. He shows up in my dreams constantly. Even in the dream, we know that he's dead, but nobody thinks anything of it. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (9yWhg) 356
Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US made Stinger Missiles that the State Dept had supplied to Ansar al Sharia in Libya WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission.
Sec State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a Private Arms Dealer named Marc Turi, but some of the shoulder fired Stinger Missiles ended up in Afghanistan where they were used against our own military. On July 25th, 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them. Not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the missile. The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to land and an ordnance team recovered the missile’s serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger Missiles kept in Qatar by the CIA. Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a "do-or-die" mission, which explains the Stand Down Orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege of the US Embassy. Posted by: Notsothoreau So benevolent and transparent. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (R4t5M) 357
303 Indiana GOP Congressional Primary Won by Woman Who Passed Away 2 Months Ago
- Well, at least she won't betray us. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks ==== Twon't matter. The District is home of Andre Carson-Dem who has represented them in Congress for years and years. Posted by: whig at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (peJ7P) 358
Part 3
Bowe Bergdahl was just a useful pawn used to cover the release of the Taliban generals. Everyone knew Bergdahl was a traitor but Obama used Bergdahl’s exchange for the five Taliban generals to cover that Obama was being coerced by the Taliban about the unauthorized Stinger Missile deal. So we have a traitor as POTUS that is not only corrupt, but compromised, as well and a Sec of State that is a serial liar, who perjured herself multiple times at the Congressional Hearings on Benghazi. Perhaps this is why no military aircraft were called upon for help in Benghazi: because the administration knew that our enemies had Stinger Missiles, that if used to down those planes, would likely be traced back to the CIA cache in Qatar and then to the State Dept’s illegitimate arms deal in Libya. Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (yeEu9) 359
I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM (oIV3h) What's your favorite brand of work boot? Posted by: Think carefully at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (Wc83a) 360
Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a "do-or-die
And the other guy who was killed, Sean Smith, was a well known EVE Online player named Vile Rat. Fucking Hilary and the godless commie Democrats. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 12:18 PM (ufFY8) 361
Saw this is a comment to DM:
" an ill eagle alien " Posted by: Ciampino - Vitreous Humour is funny glass #59 at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (qfLjt) 362
And the other guy who was killed, Sean Smith, was a well known EVE Online player named Vile Rat.
He was online in the game when shit was hitting the fan. Sadly, his last messages were ominous. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (ufFY8) 363
I made a poopie
Posted by: Sloppy Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (csaWj) Posted by: Archimedes at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (CsUN+) 365
Inside Football.
Former NFL Player Antonio Brown: I like Donald Trump, I See Biden “S***ing on Himself and Falling All Over” Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (L/fGl) 366
Learn to mow, edge, trim, & blow.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2024 11:11 AM So, I need to go hardwood? Posted by: Kamala "Comma-la" Harris at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (a3Q+t) 367
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (yeEu9)
What's it say about me that not only does this not surprise me in the least, but I know that absolutely no one will ever be held accountable for it. Posted by: Inogame at May 10, 2024 12:19 PM (53oGX) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:20 PM (9yWhg) 369
What's your favorite brand of work boot?
Posted by: Think carefully Ha! That's easy - Red Wings (the style still made in the states). Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:20 PM (oIV3h) 370
Obama's fingerprints actually found on something?
Posted by: davidt at May 10, 2024 12:20 PM (SYTee) 371
How many divisions does SCOTUS have?
Posted by: Archimedes The Chief Justice has made his decision. Now let him enforce it. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:21 PM (9yWhg) 372
If only the government would reduce their white collar workers.
But then who will administrate the administrators? You can't trust them with autonomy! Posted by: t-bird at May 10, 2024 12:21 PM (3fFru) 373
370 Obama's fingerprints actually found on something?
Posted by: davidt at May 10, 2024 12:20 PM (SYTee) Running arms to foreign enemies that end up killing Americans? That's not the Obama I know! Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 10, 2024 12:21 PM (KbCG3) 374
"What does that mean though? We spent billions of dollars, and you can't tell us at all how many people we've helped," Tang said.
Megan Kirkeby, deputy director for the California Department of Housing and Community Development, told lawmakers in the committee that the state didn't previously require them to track its progress on spending or the viability of its programs, adding it's not "something to be proud of." Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (RHGPo) 375
What aggravated me about the Benghazi scandal besides the scandal facts itself ,which still makes me hulk angry, is that it was like Hillary was President and Obama didn’t exist. All the focus was on her and Obama never mentioned in the msm reporting and even the conservative side of the internet.
Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (MNhXM) 376
Obama and Hillary committed TREASON!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 12:16 PM (yeEu9) Well, duh. Of course they did. The part that does not ring true is sending Stevens to "recover" the Stinger missiles. If the location of the missile stash can be learned, just send in an air strike to destroy the location with a big-ass bomb. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (8zz6B) 377
I must be a lesbian. I have to admit I like to do what they do. Except drive a Subaru. And wear checked shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:14 PM Do you play softball in your Doc Martens? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (a3Q+t) 378
Does Bill Canwright have anything to back this up?
Posted by: davidt at May 10, 2024 12:23 PM (SYTee) 379
Did Ace crash his Vespa into the shelving again?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:24 PM (9yWhg) 380
Do you play softball in your Doc Martens? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (a3Q+t) And have multiple stupid tattoos, a partially shaved head with purple strands and piercings everywhere? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1) 381
Did Ace crash his Vespa into the shelving again?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus Was there a fat chick there? (Riding on the Vespa, not riding on the shelf) Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:25 PM (oIV3h) 382
Held: In civil forfeiture cases involving personal property, the Due Pro-
cess Clause requires a timely forfeiture hearing but does not require a separate preliminary hearing. Pp. 5–14. (a) Due process ordinarily requires States to provide notice and a hearing before seizing real property. But States may immediately seize personal property subject to civil forfeiture when the property (for example, a car) otherwise could be removed, destroyed, or con- cealed before a forfeiture hearing. When a State seizes personal prop- erty, due process requires a timely post-seizure forfeiture hearing Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 12:26 PM (RHGPo) 383
79 Speaking of that... I had to call Kohls over some dispute over my bill and "Janice" was so nice to help me... Unfortunately "Janice" had such a thick Indian accent I couldn't understand a word she was saying.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 10, 2024 *** In delightful contrast, yesterday I needed to call a tobacco-and-pipe business in Richmond, VA. "Amy" was charming and knowledgeable, and made the phone call a pleasure. Funny how, when I call less benighted stated than this one, my IQ seems to ramp up a few points. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 10, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu) AI will make even speaking with a front-line human Customer Service rep out of date. Klarna already used AI to save $40 million and 700 workers with printed responses. AI will eventually be able to replicate human speech, with regional accents and a depth of knowledge of an individual's historical interactions with the particular company's products to eliminate thousands of those jobs as well. Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 10, 2024 12:26 PM (I4x5y) 384
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Do you play softball in your Doc Martens? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2024 12:22 PM (a3Q+t) And have multiple stupid tattoos, a partially shaved head with purple strands and piercings everywhere? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 10, 2024 12:25 PM (Zz0t1) That's hot... Posted by: P Hilton at May 10, 2024 12:26 PM (53oGX) 385
Was there a fat chick there?
(Riding on the Vespa, not riding on the shelf) Posted by: Tonypete Is Ace into fat chicks? Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:28 PM (9yWhg) 386
Does Bill Canwright have anything to back this up?
Posted by: davidt at May 10, 2024 12:23 PM (SYTee) We do know it was an arms deal fiasco, we know that the Obama administration lied about a YouTube video and we know that stand down orders were given that caused the deaths of American diplomats and soldiers. The facts and details that surround this confirmed information will never be officially investigated and released. Posted by: polynikes at May 10, 2024 12:29 PM (MNhXM) 387
Ah, we have a nood.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:29 PM (9yWhg) 388
Ford Shareholders Reject Proposal to Audit Child Labor in Electric Vehicle Supply Chain
- They know enough to know they don't want to know any more. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 10, 2024 12:30 PM (L/fGl) 389
Is Ace into fat chicks?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 10, 2024 12:28 PM For dating, or yub-nub consumption? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 10, 2024 12:30 PM (a3Q+t) 390
Fun fact on boots. At Parris Island, about the fifth week, we had to turn in one pair of boots for new heels and soles. The next week, the other pair. That's a lot of mileage on two pairs of boots. No wonder the hip and knees caught up.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 10, 2024 12:30 PM (V5eKu) 391
286 The benzene ring has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus The Carbon atoms held hands and danced, amirite? Posted by: Tonypete at May 10, 2024 12:00 PM (oIV3h) Meanwhile the neutral hydrogens looked everywhere for partners. Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 10, 2024 12:32 PM (MkuC5) 392
Unless something radically changes, I'm being laid off. I have my last day and severance package in place. I've known for some time. It is not a surprise. It *was* a surprise when I got the information, though, because I expected to be terminated on the day I got the extension.
Neither I nor my coworkers were surprised to be pink-slipped. I have some sympathy in the general sense, but I have little sympathy for my colleagues who are now panicking. We knew the odds. We've known for a year. This is a surprise or an unexpected development for precisely nobody in my group. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 10, 2024 11:38 AM (d04cU) Sorry to hear that, but I'm glad it wasn't a surprise. As you know, I've been there myself. Now I expect to see you at the top of the AoS Leaderboard for the foreseeable future! Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 10, 2024 12:33 PM (I4x5y) 393
I'm not trying to brag when I relate this story...
I'm a 6-figure income data scientist/applications developer that works in the pharma industry. Right before the koof, I decided to start taking welding classes at the local community college so that I could make parts that I imagined up in CAD for my Hummer H1. It was purely a recreational thing. Next thing you know, I've fabricated a spare tire carrier, a M1102 bed rack, a floor tire jack, and now I'm building a crane for my M1102 to lift the roof top tent on and off of it myself. People see my work and they want me to fabricate things for them. I do the math and I could almost make as much as I do at my desk job simply doing metal fabrication in my garage. Pretty nuts. Posted by: Defenestratus at May 10, 2024 12:33 PM (2+It5) 394
Amid a series of layoffs, tech companies are finding it increasingly difficult to sponsor foreign workers for employment-based green cards due to stringent labor rules designed to protect U.S. workers. The process, governed by the Program Electronic Review Management system, mandates job advertising to ensure U.S. workers are not adversely affected.
However, President Joe Biden's administration is considering a green card rule change that could significantly alter this landscape. The proposed exemption could be applied to a broad range of tech occupations including, notably, software engineering -- which represents about 1.8 million U.S. positions, according to U.S. labor statistics data -- and would allow companies to bypass some labor market tests if there's a demonstrated shortage of U.S. workers in an occupation. Specifically, the Biden administration is looking to update the Department of Labor's Schedule A Shortage Occupation List to include STEM occupations. This list, which hasn't been updated in decades and is focused primarily on healthcare, exempts listed occupations from Program Electronic Review Management (PERM) requirements such as advertising job openings in newsp Posted by: SMOD at May 10, 2024 12:38 PM (RHGPo) 395
For the first 129 years of our country's existence, the federal government subsisted mostly on tariffs applied to all imports.
Then the 16th amendment opened the spigot to rob us blind and leviathan grew. I'm all for tariffs, so long as they are applied across the board and not used to pick and choose winners and losers. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 10, 2024 12:42 PM (PjOi6) 396
Good news. As a Plant Manager with significant Manufacturing Engineering experience, I'm one of those gray collar workers who will remain in high demand.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 10, 2024 12:48 PM (PjOi6) 397
I don't know where he got this story but it rang true for me.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 10, 2024 01:02 PM (yeEu9) 398
I saw a video of a metal working factory in China that had 10 workers...and they have started using robots...they are basic arm robots that can be used on old machinery.
They now have 1 guy instead of 10. I think that kind of production line could work in America. BTW, China has a ton of unemployed workers now. We're kind of "lucky" to have already experienced that. Also, went to Vietnam - same factories now have welding robots but not the other kind for metal pressing. A robot arm costs around 8k USd - 15K usd If China finds these economical at $3.hour labor, then USA would too. Posted by: Harun at May 10, 2024 01:06 PM (IuIym) 399
"AI" is an even bigger threat to white-collar jobs. Who needs Sally in HR when an AI bot can do her job faster, cheaper, and better?
Posted by: Nemo at May 10, 2024 01:08 PM (S6ArX) 400
"AI" is an even bigger threat to white-collar jobs. Who needs Sally in HR when an AI bot can do her job faster, cheaper, and better?
Posted by: Nemo at May 10, 2024 01:08 PM (S6ArX) And theoretically can be trained not to discriminate, or better to weed out the Karen invasion that accompanies HR everywhere it turns up. Posted by: Pete Bog at May 10, 2024 01:14 PM (VFWX5) 401
What Mr. Throckmorton does not take into account is the massive inflow of cheap illegal alien slave labor which is taking the bulk of the "hands on jobs" away from American citizens. For proof just look at the construction industry which is now primarily using illegal aliens at very low wages.
Same goes for the roofing, landscaping industries. Only solution is to deport these criminal illegal aliens and fine and imprison any company that hires illegal aliens. No exceptions. Posted by: Junius at May 10, 2024 02:21 PM (ZAerh) 402
The loss of not just the manufacturing jobs, but the very infrastructure of making things has been throttling the US for at least a decade or two now. Under Trump, the jobs and capital investment was returning, but that was boosting prospects for middle class growth across several demographics, several of which are key Democrat constituents. That can’t be allowed.
The lack of adequate foundries cripples major projects. The plans were made for a nuclear renaissance - how nice! We can’t make reactor vessels or steam generator components in this country. They all have to be shipped from Japan at great expense. So let’s just build one or two and call it a win. I’m reading on other sites about our inability to build and dry dock naval vessels. We’ve read about how Brandon has run out our munition stocks, and it will take years to recover the inventory we need for our own military. The increase in jobs is nice, but we need to get our heads out of our “green energy” asses and start investing in the places these blue collar jobs will need to be. Posted by: Advo at May 10, 2024 04:01 PM (jO4mz) 403
What if Manufacturing Jobs Come Home but White Collar Jobs Get Offshored?
White collar jobs have been getting offshored for 3+ years now in the auto industry. 5 years ago, my entire department was American citizens. Prior to the 400-engineer layoff at the company in March of this year -- including 25+ in my department of all American citizens -- my group of 25 people had 2 American citizens, 2 UK citizens who became American citizens after working here for decades and the other 21 employees were remote workers in India and Toronto (people from India working in Canada). After the 400-engineer mass layoff, my entire former group had zero Americans, manager was citizen who became American and rest were remote workers from India. Was told by my new contract house that this is now the new way of business for auto industry going forward. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 10, 2024 06:06 PM (P5BPp) 404
...U.S. employers are dismissing white collar workers for the express purpose of replacing them with cheaper employees in places like India and Mexico.
India, Mexico and Brazil for the auto industry. At least that is how it is for my former company. And word is that the 400-engineer mass layoff in March was just the beginning for this year. Plan is to get 75% of the workforce to be cheap remote workers. So I would suggest that anyone thinking of purchasing a new vehicle within the next 2-3 years should go out and get one now. Because the future vehicles in 2025 and forward are going to be garbage. Absolute garbage. Anything designed or engineered by one of the Big3 is not being designed by the best and brightest, but rather by the cheapest engineers in the world. If they are even engineers at all. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 10, 2024 06:11 PM (P5BPp) 405
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This conflates coders with white collar jobs. That is wrong. Coders, business analysts, server maintenance people, IT guys that crawl unde people's desks to install their hardware etc are blue collar. They are not laptop class. They are not going anywhere. The real white collar class have tried for 20 years to outsource the software maintenance and development and the demand has been so high both here and there that it absorbed millions of it workers from overseas and still needed more.
An insurance corporation I worked for had hundreds of openings for all IT roles year after year after importing a few thousand from India, and creating a few thousand jobs in India too, through the 4 Indian IT consulting giants. Also probably they are not all coders at Google. Also if your smart phone would have been assembled here it would have probably cost 2000 dollars. China has been giving us labor and materials and we have been giving it paper in exchange. Paper we then made worth 30% less overnight. They woke up and are dumping the dollar. We've been living (printing) way beyond our means and we're about to be Britain in the 50's. Posted by: azar at May 10, 2024 10:49 PM (P11lf) Posted by: dad29 at May 11, 2024 05:23 AM (H11oV) 408
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