THE MORNING RANT: Partitioning Baton Rouge & the Importance of Dissolving Old Political Boundaries

There is an important story out of Louisiana that may seem like a just a local story, but it could also prove to have significance as the first victory in a necessary national movement to break up old political boundaries that harbor failed municipal governments.

After a long battle spanning more than a decade, a section of East Baton Rouge Parish has successfully seceded from the Baton Rouge city/county consolidated government. The new city of St. George, Louisiana has been born.

“A new City of St. George: How a major Louisiana Supreme Court ruling could change Baton Rouge”

The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled Friday to allow the City of St. George to move forward with plans to incorporate, a monumental decision for Baton Rouge and possibly the end to a decade-long battle over the creation of the new city.
The new City of St. George will include at least 86,000 residents across a 60-square-mile area in the southeast corner of East Baton Rouge Parish, making it one of the largest cities in the state — on par with Lake Charles and Kenner.

There are generally two hallmarks of failed cities – rampant crime and failed schools. Baton Rouge is renowned for both. The St. George movement didn’t even start out as an effort to form a new city, it was about trying to create a new school district independent of the dysfunctional Baton Rouge schools.

The St. George movement had preceded that election by a decade — it originally started as a push to create a separate, independent school district before evolving over the years into a full-fledged campaign for a new city.

There are bubbling municipal secession movements across the country, from Buckhead in Atlanta to Lost Creek in Austin as well as efforts by conservative counties to secede from blue states such as California. May the victory in Baton Rouge provide encouragement that the battle may be long, but it can be won.

Few people expect local government to be free of corruption and graft, but in exchange for an often-corrupt political machine, the expectation for local government had always been that it would effectively provide essential city services and maintain civil order. In the most recent Cut Jib Newsletter podcast, Michael Walsh, JJ Sefton, and CBD discussed the concept of “honest graft” as it applied to the Tammany Hall era of New York City. It was terribly corrupt, but it also provided policing and functioning schools, and it generally maintained civil order.

Unfortunately, Tammany-type Democrats in cities across America have been replaced by Pol Pot Democrats who seek to destroy the old order, embracing crime and lawlessness as tools in their vision of re-organizing society. Where working class residents were once the most important constituents, modern blue-city leaders have ditched the working class in favor of criminals and illegal aliens.

About a year ago I wrote a piece titled, When States & Municipalities Fail, Let’s Break Them Up [Buck Throckmorton – 6/19/2023] discussing how the bankruptcy of the city of Milwaukee, and the imminent bankruptcy of the state of Illinois present opportunities to dissolve those failed entities.

Milwaukee is a failed city that cannot pay its bills. Regrettably, the Republican-controlled legislature in Wisconsin is simply going to bail the city out, rather than letting it actually go bankrupt. Any bailout that keeps municipal services operating should also terminate the city as it is currently incorporated, because Milwaukee has proved it is not capable of self-governance.

Circling back to Milwaukee, I don’t know if it has neighborhoods that wish they could de-annex, but my experience is that in most any city, there are neighborhoods that were annexed against their will which wish to be free of the taxes and pathologies of the leftist municipal government that now holds control over them.

Here is an idea that is not originally mine, but it’s a good one. How about dissolving the failed state of Illinois and making it a territory? Or perhaps putting Chicago in federal receivership, making it similar to Guam as an unincorporated territory of the United States, and allowing the downstate counties to be annexed by neighboring states?

Boundaries and borders have always changed. Look at the video below to see how state boundaries have changed in this country since its birth. There is nothing sacrosanct about the current map that it must remain unchanged in perpetuity. In fact, it cannot stay unchanged. History tells us that. City boundaries are going to change. State borders are going to change. The ideal should be that they change in a peaceful manner.

Let Baton Rouge / St. George be the first of many dissolutions of political entities that are in need of a cartographical divorce.

Which city is next? How about Austin? It would be a prime candidate for partition/dissolution because it is currently engaged in an insurrection against the state of Texas, having declared itself a “sanctuary city” in order to protect the ghouls who are medically preying on children in the ongoing transgender social contagion. The City of Austin is in open rebellion against state law.

“Austin defies Texas law by passing a resolution that makes the city a ‘sanctuary’ for ‘transgender’ minors” [Voz Media – 3/03/2024]

The Austin City Council approved a resolution making the city a sanctuary for transgender minors seeking sex reassignment treatments. Although the measure directly violates the state law that seeks to protect children by prohibiting hormonal and surgical gender transition interventions in minors.

The good news is that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has given notice to the city.

If the City of Austin refuses to follow the law and protect children, my office will consider every possible response to ensure compliance. Texas municipalities do not have the authority to pick and choose which state laws they will or will not abide by. The people of Texas have… https://t.co/cvjrXo74ia
— Attorney General Ken Paxton (@KenPaxtonTX) May 2, 2024

While I am not an expert on municipal law, I would think that Austin’s open defiance of state law would empower the state of Texas to dissolve the city’s charter. Once the city is dissolved, the emancipated neighborhoods could then get a new opportunity to determine what municipality, new or existing, they wish to be a part of.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:00 AM (9yWhg)

2 I culled the otters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

3 1 1st?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:00 AM (9yWhg)

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No, because you are not Sponge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

4 Michael Walsh, JJ Sefton, and CBD discussed the concept of “honest graft” as it applied to the Tammany Hall era of New York City

When I lived in Chicago under the first Mayor Daley, I described it as "good government plus 10%".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:02 AM (uxCna)

5 Willowed:

No one has called for jews to be sent to the ovens here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:02 AM (nFo4U)

6 There are bubbling municipal secession movements across the country

Don't forget the San Fernando Valley trying to secede from LA.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:03 AM (uxCna)

7 Top 10?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 06, 2024 11:04 AM (J2vNu)

8 It's Teacher Appreciation Week

just so's ya know

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

9 Conservatives just flee to the suburbs and let the city core rot. Much easier than forming a new city. And when the same problems infest the suburbs, you just build new suburbs further out and keep going. See Houston for example.

Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 11:05 AM (25k9m)

10 Austin as a whole should be dissolved...in acid.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (aFNOf)

11 Today I learned that Trickle Down Economics is why our government sent our manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (SdC0P)

12 "The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled Friday to allow the City of St. George to move forward with plans to incorporate, a monumental decision for Baton Rouge and possibly the end to a decade-long battle over the creation of the new city."

Good for them. Now let's see how long it takes the leftists to fvck this city up. The pendulum always swings back the other way. Sometimes it takes a long time to happen, but it always does.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (QNSds)

13 How about charging Austin leaders with state crimes?

Oh, right.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (lzbSw)

14 Greetings! Small bone to pick with the YouTube video on how the map has changed.
When Virginia was formed, it had no western border. It extended as far west as could be imagined.
Or so I have read.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (MeG8a)

15 When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (nFo4U)

16 There are generally two hallmarks of failed cities – rampant crime and failed schools. Baton Rouge is renowned for both. The St. George movement didn’t even start out as an effort to form a new city, it was about trying to create a new school district independent of the dysfunctional Baton Rouge schools.
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"If I can't have X, I'll take it all."

This happens semi-routinely in Colorado. Aurora, CO is geographically enormous and spans (or spanned) across several counties. Aurora also largely sucks. Periodically, the parts that get nice will carve themselves out of technical Aurora and go independent.

Centennial, CO and, IIRC, Lone Tree, CO carved themselves out of Aurora (mostly, some neighboring annexation). For most Centennial ZIP codes, you can address it to "Aurora, CO 80xxx" and it will be delivered just fine.

This is not without precedent.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:07 AM (HnUIn)

17 When Virginia was formed, it had no western border. It extended as far west as could be imagined.
Or so I have read.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Yep. All the way to California. And then to the Mississippi after the French and Indian War.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:08 AM (9yWhg)

18 Buck Head!

Posted by: Hare lip at May 06, 2024 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

19 There's a real problem here in the status of the states. They (at least the original ones) created the national government, not vice versa. This article implicitly seems to take them as creatures of the feds.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 06, 2024 11:08 AM (1bNHn)

20 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 06, 2024 11:08 AM (T4tVD)

21 When leftists segregate, it is championed. When normies want to be left alone, that's a holocaust.

Posted by: Them's the Rules at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (V5BDR)

22 "No one has called for jews to be sent to the ovens here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:02 AM (nFo4U)"

No, they do quite a bit - it simply doesn't get mainstream play.

People look at who is wildly over-represented in all manner of batshit moonbattery and attribute it to Jewishness instead of attributing it to the effects of being concentrated in urban areas and (leftist dominated) universities.

Posted by: somedood at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (uGpeQ)

23 St. George secedes from Baton Rouge, improving opportunities for self governance - Progress!

Progressives: We didn't mean that kind of progress!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (Eur7t)

24 The FO part of FAFO is happening and Hims CEO Andrew Dudum doesn't like it and tries to lie his way out of it.

https://shorturl.at/ruxMQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)

25 Conservatives just flee to the suburbs and let the city core rot. Much easier than forming a new city. And when the same problems infest the suburbs, you just build new suburbs further out and keep going. See Houston for example.
Posted by: brak

Dallas to Richardson to Plano to Allen to McKinney to Melissa to Anna To Van Alstyne...

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (nFo4U)

26 Greetings! Small bone to pick with the YouTube video on how the map has changed.
When Virginia was formed, it had no western border. It extended as far west as could be imagined.
Or so I have read.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 06, 2024 11:06 AM (MeG8a)

The map also perpetuates the scurrilous fiction of Rhode Island.

Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (OguvZ)

27 Dissolving Austin would be a great start. But I'm not sure Texas has the budget for the amount of acid required. Maybe a Kickstarter.

Posted by: I'll Melt with You at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (JqIGQ)

28 Few people expect local government to be free of corruption and graft, but in exchange for an often-corrupt political machine, the expectation for local government had always been that it would effectively provide essential city services and maintain civil order.
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There will be corruption. The key is to keep it contained to the point that it doesn't destroy the host. That requires responsible government and a healthy dose of extreme fiscal restriction. Do not enable the government to finance itself without limits. They can still steal money, but they have to keep it relatively small or they fail and people get rid of them.

Without fiscal restrictions, there will be no fiscal - or corruption - restraint and then it gets so big and the theft is so stupendous that they *can't* stop without the entire system fracturing and turning to dust.

That's where the FedGov is, and governments like California. Not all states have reached the self-consuming corruption level yet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (HnUIn)

29 Good for them. Lived there in the early 90s.

Posted by: MJR at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (ZC7qa)

30 OT: If you needed another reason to avoid "The Guardian," this is an excerpt from theguardian.com's appeal for donations that popped up while scrolling through an article linked by Pixy:

"With the potential of another Trump presidency looming, there are countless angles to cover around this year’s election – and we'll be there to shed light on each new development, with explainers, key takeaways and analysis of what it means for America, democracy and the world.

From Elon Musk to the Murdochs, a small number of billionaire owners have a powerful hold on so much of the information that reaches the public about what’s happening in the world. The Guardian is different. We have no billionaire owner or shareholders to consider. Our journalism is produced to serve the public interest – not profit motives."

They then went on to criticize how Americans have this stupid idea that news should be without political bias. Great job not getting my support dumbasses.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (snyZJ)

31 When I lived in Chicago under the first Mayor Daley, I described it as "good government plus 10%".

And it really was just 10% - Daley and his immediate successors realized that taxes had to stay moderate to keep people and businesses in Chicago (one of Daley's most frequent boasts was that although Chicago had fewer welfare benefits than New York. the unemployment rate was always lower in Chicago than New York).

Now, the vultures running Chicago view businesses and affluent residents as sheep to be sheared, and really could care less about the long-term consequences.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (uxCna)

32 There are generally two hallmarks of failed cities – rampant crime and failed schools.
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Wait...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (SdC0P)

33
Cede the rump portion of the original District of Columbia back to Maryland. Put an end to the DC Statehood nonsense.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (xG4kz)

34 Media in Louisiana characterizes this as the end times. The apocalypse at Armageddon.

Posted by: Jim at May 06, 2024 11:11 AM (zhWvq)

35 Municipal secession is like trying to renovate a bedroom when the house is on fire.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 06, 2024 11:11 AM (lzbSw)

36 While I am not an expert on municipal law, I would think that Austin’s open defiance of state law would empower the state of Texas to dissolve the city’s charter. Once the city is dissolved, the emancipated neighborhoods could then get a new opportunity to determine what municipality, new or existing, they wish to be a part of.

This is something which should send a shiver up the spines of corrupt Democrat municipalities everywhere. It won't, of course, because they figure they'll always be able to figure out a way to make other people pay for their nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:11 AM (CsUN+)

37
Clear Lake was annexed by Houston in 1977. That's not now working out so well after the Katrina influx and eight years of Sylvester Turner.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:11 AM (jsUQL)

38 Baton Rogue = Bloody Red Bludgeon

Nearly 40 years ago, Mrs. Wrecks and I honeymooned in the deep south including Baton Rogue. It wasn't a shit hole then.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:12 AM (L/fGl)

39 A bunch of sections of Atlanta seceded and formed their own cities in the 90s IIRC correctly.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:12 AM (8ZLyY)

40 And it really was just 10% - Daley and his immediate successors realized that taxes had to stay moderate to keep people and businesses in Chicago (one of Daley's most frequent boasts was that although Chicago had fewer welfare benefits than New York. the unemployment rate was always lower in Chicago than New York). ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (uxCna)
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It's amazing what a little restraint can do. My little city used to have the highest property taxes in the region. About 20 years ago, there was a coordinated campaign in the city and counties to arrest the problem. New councilmen ran on, essentially, "this has to stop, or we will die. We need to make some cuts and then hold the damn line on tax rates."

They did it. My little city now has below-average property tax rates for the region and it's no longer bleeding population and tax base.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)

41 King County in WA needs to break up, half the county can have Seattle and the other half can pursue Capitalism in peace.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (xcxpd)

42 Greetings! Small bone to pick with the YouTube video on how the map has changed.
When Virginia was formed, it had no western border. It extended as far west as could be imagined.
Or so I have read.

The border extended all the way to Korea. That's why both Virginia and Korea have so many Lees.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)

43 The border extended all the way to Korea. That's why both Virginia and Korea have so many Lees.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)
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:: groan ::
:: eye-twitch ::

Nice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (HnUIn)

44 "9 Conservatives just flee to the suburbs and let the city core rot. Much easier than forming a new city. And when the same problems infest the suburbs, you just build new suburbs further out and keep going. See Houston for example.
Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 11:05 AM (25k9m)"

Some don't even flee, they just make excuses. Like that ridiculous column a few months ago from a "conservative" about how talking about urban decay isn't a winning platform, and how downtown Baltimore isn't *really* that bad, and has lots of available street parking and such bullshit.

Like, we are finally in a final stage of getting the fuck out of a specific place. Family comes in town and we're like, yeah we have to avoid a particular area because of the sniper (not making this up, it's been a thing for years), and they just BSOD for a moment and they keep on talking, having failed entirely to process it. They just can't mentally grok this kind of thing happening in their own country.

Posted by: somedood at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (uGpeQ)

45 While I am not an expert on municipal law, I would think that Austin’s open defiance of state law would empower the state of Texas to dissolve the city’s charter. Once the city is dissolved, the emancipated neighborhoods could then get a new opportunity to determine what municipality, new or existing, they wish to be a part of.

This is something which should send a shiver up the spines of corrupt Democrat municipalities everywhere. It won't, of course, because they figure they'll always be able to figure out a way to make other people pay for their nonsense.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:11 AM (CsUN+)
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Wouldn't the state legislature (located in Austin) have to agree to this?

And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (7fElN)

46 40 They did it. My little city now has below-average property tax rates for the region and it's no longer bleeding population and tax base.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)

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"But if you kick out the productive people, it gets so much easier to retain political power."
-~~James Michael Curley~~ Pretty much everyone now

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

47 St. George is a righteous name.

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (NxC5+)

48 27 Dissolving Austin would be a great start. But I'm not sure Texas has the budget for the amount of acid required. Maybe a Kickstarter.
Posted by: I'll Melt with You

Concentrated lye?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (aFNOf)

49 Unfortunately the electorate has been trained to look to DC, or at least the state level, to solve everything. Willmore Kendall pointed this out, ages ago. By centralizing power, one additional "benefit" to the libs is that the people come to see local elections as meaningless. Who cares whom you vote for, if he can't do anything?

Meanwhile, the overlord level elections are too remote for our votes to have any effect. So we're doubly screwed.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (1bNHn)

50 Conservatives just flee to the suburbs and let the city core rot. Much easier than forming a new city. And when the same problems infest the suburbs, you just build new suburbs further out and keep going. See Houston for example.
Posted by: brak
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The Borg is relentless. You will assimilate. Resistance is futile.

Posted by: The Borg at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (Eur7t)

51 Cede the rump portion of the original District of Columbia back to Maryland. Put an end to the DC Statehood nonsense.

The fact that MD isn't demanding this tells you everything you need to know.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (CsUN+)

52
"With the potential of another Trump presidency looming . . ."
They then went on to criticize how Americans have this stupid idea that news should be without political bias. Great job not getting my support dumbasses.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at May 06, 2024

***
Not to mention the loaded, negative import of that word "looming." Good things are never said to "loom."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (J2vNu)

53 47 St. George is a righteous name.
Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (NxC5+)

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"I know, right?"
-St. George Floyd

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

54 Something very similar happened here thirty years ago. There's a wealthy town just to the east of Montgomery, Alabama called Pike Road. It started out as an unincorporated community, but Montgomery at the time had a pattern of problems pushing money east (and also north, but to established towns out of county), then incorporating those areas to get the tax base back, but thus exposing them to the problems those people went there to get away from.

Eventually the Pike Road folks decided the best way to not get lumped into the degenerating Montgomery school system (currently rock bottom garbage) was to incorporate as their own thing so Montgomery couldn't just absorb them. This set off years of legal and legislative struggle until it finally came about back in '97. It's been growing as a haven for folks fleeing the decline of Montgomery ever since (ditto with Prattville, Millbrook, and other communities to the north).

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (OUMaO)

55 The left is always accusing suburbs of being a drain on cities. The right does the opposite. It’s a never ending dance.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (8ZLyY)

56 Hims? WTF is this?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

57 >>>Here is an idea that is not originally mine, but it’s a good one. How about dissolving the failed state of Illinois and making it a territory? Or perhaps putting Chicago in federal receivership, making it similar to Guam as an unincorporated territory of the United States, and allowing the downstate counties to be annexed by neighboring states?

Split-off Chicago from the Rest of Illinois. Chicago can be renamed the Chicago Teachers Union and Feral Drug Gangs Special Territory. Food is allowed in; nothing else. Nothing gets out. A 30-foot wall around the Territory and a dense minefield 1000 yards offshore, backed-up by fast gunboats.

Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (5fDan)

58
And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (7fElN)

__________

Welcome home!

Posted by: Washington on the Brazos at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (jsUQL)

59 The Borg is relentless. You will assimilate. Resistance is futile.
Posted by: The Borg at May 06, 2024 11:14 AM (Eur7t)
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ACTING!

https://youtu.be/Ms_WY0s_1XM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (HnUIn)

60 There are generally two hallmarks of failed cities – rampant crime and failed schools. Baton Rouge is renowned for both...

There are bubbling municipal secession movements across the country, from Buckhead in Atlanta to Lost Creek in Austin as well as efforts by conservative counties to secede from blue states such as California.

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https://www.census.gov/

Baton Rouge: "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, 35.8%"

Atlanta: "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, 38.9%

Austin: "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, 47.7%"

California: "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, 34.7%"

If a scientist who studied numbers saw an orangutan rub these percentages on a wound, what conclusion might he draw?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (SdC0P)

61 “Non-binary queer person” says she isn’t afraid of going to Palestine but fears “Christian men” 😂

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Well, hell, let's chip in and buy her a ticket.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (L/fGl)

62 St. George is a righteous name.
Posted by: Eromero

It's dragon itself out of Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (9yWhg)

63
And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

There's a precedent: found a new capital city in the Amazonian jungle!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (xG4kz)

64 38 Nearly 40 years ago, Mrs. Wrecks and I honeymooned in the deep south including Baton Rogue. It wasn't a shit hole then.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

There are parts of Baton Rouge that are okay, just like there are parts of NOLA that are still gorgeous (and better food than you can get in the quarter). I love Breaux Bridge, it’s tiny, it’s cute, it’s still Cajun. There is a dive bar between Breaux Bridge and Baton Rouge called the Red Rat. Very dive, very good people.

Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (71y1j)

65 56 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Minoxodil? or Viagra? Or a mix of both, maybe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (xcxpd)

66 Conservatives just flee to the suburbs and let the city core rot. Much easier than forming a new city. And when the same problems infest the suburbs, you just build new suburbs further out and keep going. See Houston for example.

Eventually, the vacuum left in the city and inner suburbs makes them desirable enough that they get refilled by the non-criminal element. That's is what happened to DC and inner suburbs like Arlington.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+)

67 If a scientist who studied numbers saw an orangutan rub these percentages on a wound, what conclusion might he draw?

report to the badthink room where you will say "diversity is our strength" until you believe it

Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (25k9m)

68 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024

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Viagra peddler -- ForHims. (I think -- that might be another company.) They advertise on TV and radio constantly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu)

69 )
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Wouldn't the state legislature (located in Austin) have to agree to this?

And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (7fElN)
Let’s move the capital someplace like……wait for it……….Corsicana!

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (NxC5+)

70 Split-off Chicago from the Rest of Illinois. Chicago can be renamed the Chicago Teachers Union and Feral Drug Gangs Special Territory. Food is allowed in; nothing else. Nothing gets out. A 30-foot wall around the Territory and a dense minefield 1000 yards offshore, backed-up by fast gunboats.

Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (5fDan)

Make E.St.Louis the capitol.

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (AwYPR)

71 That's racist!

Posted by: Tiffany Henyard, Super Girl Mayor of Dolton, Supervisor of Thorton Township at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (4I/2K)

72 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Company that makes shit for bald heads and limp dicks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (R4t5M)

73 The map also perpetuates the scurrilous fiction of Rhode Island.

Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM

Rhode Island is weird. It started as a plantation and then slowly morphed into becoming a tiny State.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (QNSds)

74 8 It's Teacher Appreciation Week

just so's ya know
Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

Is this what they are now calling teacher/student dalliances?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (N39Ws)

75 It was terribly corrupt, but it also provided policing and functioning schools, and it generally maintained civil order.

----------------

"Where have you gone, La Cosa Nostra?
A nation turns its blue shitholes to you, woo hoo hoo ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (YjJYd)

76 I'd imagine there would be major legal fights over certain demographics wanting to leave a failed city. But if this trend continues I wonder if it would spread to entire states dissatisfied with FedGov's incompetence and overreach.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)

77 72 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Company that makes shit for bald heads and limp dicks.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (R4t5M)

======

I doubt they manufacture anything. They just have a brand and contracts for generic versions of drugs.

Easily replaceable if the company makes the news in bad ways.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)

78 72 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Company that makes shit for bald heads and limp dicks.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner
Does Bob Dole approve?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (aFNOf)

79
Rhode Island is weird. It started as a plantation and then slowly morphed into becoming a tiny State.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (QNSds)

___________

No bigger than the size of a man's hand.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (jsUQL)

80 Rhode Island is weird. It started as a plantation and then slowly morphed into becoming a tiny State.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 06, 2024 11:18 AM (QNSds)
++++
At least did it for real. We didn't just get carved out of an existing state to round out the numbers.

Maine, man. That they cast aspersions on us is laughable. Rump Massachusetts can suck it.

Posted by: Rhode Island, keeping regional rivalry alive at May 06, 2024 11:19 AM (HnUIn)

81 There are parts of Baton Rouge that are okay, just like there are parts of NOLA that are still gorgeous (and better food than you can get in the quarter). I love Breaux Bridge, it’s tiny, it’s cute, it’s still Cajun. There is a dive bar between Breaux Bridge and Baton Rouge called the Red Rat. Very dive, very good people.
Posted by: Piper at May 06, 2024

***
In the late '70s, radio jocks Ross & Wilson (who went on to greater fame in Atlanta) did the morning drive in BR on WJBO. They had loads of fun pronouncing Baton Rouge as "Bayton Roogie" and using the little town of Brusly (pronounced "Broo-lee") as a catchphrase.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 06, 2024 11:20 AM (J2vNu)

82 Eventually, the vacuum left in the city and inner suburbs makes them desirable enough that they get refilled by the non-criminal element. That's is what happened to DC and inner suburbs like Arlington.

white people leave: white flight! das racist!

white people come back: gentrification! das racist!

Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 11:20 AM (25k9m)

83 In addition to the Texas National Guard, Texas has a State Guard answering to the Governor. Nuclear capability would be a nice touch, with appropriate delivery systems.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (V5eKu)

84 There's madness in their Methodist.

Christianity Today
@CTmagazine
United Methodists overwhelmingly overturned a measure that barred gay clergy from ordination in the denomination, a historic step for the nation’s second-largest Protestant body.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

85 ‘Austin’s open defiance of state law would empower the state of Texas to dissolve the city’s charter. ‘

That would be playing hardball for a change. I hope Ken Paxton does something like this.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

86 OK, now contrast the population that's been fleeing from the blue thunderdomes with the coming tsunami of anti-vehicle legislation. State-level ICE bans (many of which passed a few years ago and start around 2026-2030), the psychotic federal mandates on safety and emissions, etc.

If they can't build a physical wall around their shitholes to keep people in - yet - they're going full bore shortly on preventing future citizens from fleeing. Can't move to the middle of nowhere without personal transport. Probably because they now regret the whole work-from-home revolution, as it applies to too many of the "wrong" people and is fostering more geographical mobility.

2026 is pretty much the cutoff for buying new vehicles, for anyone keeping track, unless you want to start getting things like mandatory autobrakes, kill switches, driver monitoring, and alchohol interlocks for all.

Posted by: somedood at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (uGpeQ)

87 I'd imagine there would be major legal fights over certain demographics wanting to leave a failed city. But if this trend continues I wonder if it would spread to entire states dissatisfied with FedGov's incompetence and overreach.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

-

IIRC that's what Baltimore has hung their hat on for 50 years or so.

We suck because all the good people left and...

Wait, that's two generations of y'all being able to do everything right and in house and with even smarter people.

So...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (SdC0P)

88 I live in a small city and it’s run by leftists. But crime isn’t a major issue due to our, ahem, demographics. There’s the odd car break in and shit but no violent crime. Some homelessness but the police keep in check for the most part.

I put up with it and the higher taxes because I like living here. Old mature neighborhoods, walking distance to things. I’ve never been a fan of suburbia.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:22 AM (8ZLyY)

89 Christianity Today
@CTmagazine
United Methodists overwhelmingly overturned a measure that barred gay clergy from ordination in the denomination, a historic step for the nation’s second-largest Protestant body.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:21 AM (L/fGl)
----
I wonder if this his how you go from being the second largest to being the fifth largest? (or smaller?)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

90 Will Abbott have to find another building in TX with a wheelchair ramp?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:23 AM (aFNOf)

91 The Founders were skeptical of organized religion. We can see why.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:23 AM (R4t5M)

92 By centralizing power, one additional "benefit" to the libs is that the people come to see local elections as meaningless.

Some "progressive" did a rant recently denouncing the fact that so many local offices were elective - why, in my part of Oregon, you have elections for county commission, city council, school district, sheriff, soil conservation district, fire district, and water district.

Wouldn't it be easier and simpler just to have the governor appoint all those positions instead of having people vote for so many positions?

And that way, when these local governments screw up, they are safely insulated from having enraged voters kicking them out of office.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

93 The map also perpetuates the scurrilous fiction of Rhode Island.
Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 11:09 AM (OguvZ)

Well I never!

Posted by: Lincoln Chafee, Nepot and Champion of the Metric System at May 06, 2024 11:25 AM (PiwSw)

94 56 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Hair Loss Treatment.

Run by a shitty Pro-Hamas CEO.

Posted by: XTC at May 06, 2024 11:25 AM (UnA8+)

95 I wonder what city that map is of in the pic up top.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)

96 I wonder what city that map is of in the pic up top.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)
++++
Scissor Town, USA. Our capital city.

Posted by: Lesbians at May 06, 2024 11:26 AM (HnUIn)

97 Hims has got to be a money-laundering scheme. From what I can tell from its obnoxious (gay-friendly) advertising -- which is all over NYC -- all it does it sell overpriced generic versions of existing dick-hardening and hair-growing drugs, along with Goop-ish man-grooming garbage.

How the fuck did this company ever sell a single product, let alone become a public company? The CEO is a real prick cocksucker, so I'm looking forward to the avalanche of shareholder suits and criminal investigations.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 06, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)

98 I saw Cartographical Divorce open for Massive Attack at Ground Zero in '95.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 06, 2024 11:26 AM (hxRN0)

99 94 56 Hims? WTF is this?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (aFNOf)

Hair Loss Treatment.

Run by a shitty Pro-Hamas CEO.
Posted by: XTC at May 06, 2024 11:25 AM (UnA8+)

What a maroorn.

Posted by: Zombie Sy Sperling at May 06, 2024 11:27 AM (PiwSw)

100 100

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:27 AM (jsUQL)

101 in my part of Oregon, you have elections for county commission, city council, school district, sheriff, soil conservation district, fire district, and water district.

-

Same here. It does get a little silly. We have elections for the county coroner! And then library board, assessor, treasurer, goes on and on. Position after position where nobody has any clue who’s running or what they even do.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:27 AM (8ZLyY)

102 ---
Wouldn't the state legislature (located in Austin) have to agree to this?

And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
------

It was the state legislature that killed Buckhead's attempt to separate from Atlanta.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2024 11:28 AM (XeU6L)

103 Hims is a snake oil company selling baldness cures to gullible bald people.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:28 AM (8ZLyY)

104 Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell

Let’s be clear:

Jack Smith is accused of tampering with evidence, manufacturing witnesses, bribery and corruption…

And that’s in the investigation of the President of Kosovo 3 years ago when Jack Smith worked at The Hague.

12:07 PM · May 5, 2024

Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 11:29 AM (RHGPo)

105 Wouldn't it be easier and simpler just to have the governor appoint all those positions instead of having people vote for so many positions?

And that way, when these local governments screw up, they are safely insulated from having enraged voters kicking them out of office.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

That's what ya call Imperial Government,

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2024 11:29 AM (i9ffA)

106 104 Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell

Let’s be clear:

Jack Smith is accused of tampering with evidence, manufacturing witnesses, bribery and corruption…

And that’s in the investigation of the President of Kosovo 3 years ago when Jack Smith worked at The Hague.

12:07 PM · May 5, 2024
Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 11:29 AM (RHGPo)

========

It's my understanding that just being accused of something makes them guilty and unworthy of any office in the US government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)

107 "88 I live in a small city and it’s run by leftists. But crime isn’t a major issue due to our, ahem, demographics. There’s the odd car break in and shit but no violent crime. Some homelessness but the police keep in check for the most part.

I put up with it and the higher taxes because I like living here. Old mature neighborhoods, walking distance to things. I’ve never been a fan of suburbia.
Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:22 AM (8ZLyY)"

This just means the transition to shithole is much more sudden. One day things are chill and then the next day 1500 Somalis get dropped off on Main St with housing vouchers.

The LL Bean/Ben and Jerry regions of New England are particularly bad about this because for decades they could afford to vote like moonbats because the negative consequences had not - yet - arrived for them. That's starting to change.

Posted by: somedood at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (uGpeQ)

108 Urban redevelopment / renewal? May I be of some assistance?

Posted by: Neutron Bomb at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (4I/2K)

109 Wouldn't the state legislature (located in Austin) have to agree to this?

And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Texas has had six different capitals. We'll find another.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (nFo4U)

110 t's my understanding that just being accused of something makes them guilty and unworthy of any office in the US government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)

Well, shit's complicated.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:31 AM (R4t5M)

111 That's what ya call Imperial Government,
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2024 11:29 AM (i9ffA)
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I thought that was the "spoils system" where the Man in Charge appoints all his friends, family, and cronies to key positions to loot the treasury until the next Man in Charge comes along...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:31 AM (7fElN)

112 Keep Austin Feared

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 06, 2024 11:31 AM (hxRN0)

113 This just means the transition to shithole is much more sudden. One day things are chill and then the next day 1500 Somalis get dropped off on Main St with housing vouchers.

—

Yeah I know that is a possibility and I watch out for it. Hopefully if they ever does come I can be one of the first to sell and get out quickly.

It doesn’t quite happen with 1500. It starts with 50. That’s when the house goes up for sale, lol. By 1500 it’s too late.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 11:32 AM (8ZLyY)

114 Hims is a snake oil company selling baldness cures to gullible bald people.
Posted by: Montec

And broken penis cures to broken penis people.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:32 AM (nFo4U)

115 I had the opportunity to go through the transition of living in a suburb that became a city near L.A. in what is now the city of Santa Clarita. One of the top 5 safest cities in the U.S. through the 80's and 90's.

The new city government systematically rezoned a large chunk of the rural ranch/farm areas and made it available to developers for low rent housing. A great boon for the city coffers in getting all the L.A. commuters crammed into the freeway corridors.

This was a place that 35 years ago had 4th of July parades with the local FD and PD, a yearly carnival/farmers market in September to celebrate the local farming community. Now? My hometown is a graffiti filled shithole dotted with gated communities so that the wealthier L.A. commuters can avoid the petty theft and robbery.

Posted by: Croaker at May 06, 2024 11:33 AM (WVllD)

116 Had Chicago been partitioned off years ago, downstate Illinois wouldn't have likely lost all the companies that bailed because of the policies Chicago imposes against the rest of the state.

Reynolds v. Sims is one of the most pernicious and mostly unknown decisions of the Supreme Court. It created the system whereby one large cites now dictates how the entire state will be governed.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 06, 2024 11:33 AM (N1tpc)

117
I thought that was the "spoils system" where the Man in Charge appoints all his friends, family, and cronies to key positions to loot the treasury until the next Man in Charge comes along...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:31 AM (7fElN)

_________

A big-city mayor appoints a crony to be Director of Weights and Measures. A reporter asks the crony, "Hey, Charlie, how many ounces in a pound?" Charlie replies, "Give a guy time to learn about his job."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:34 AM (jsUQL)

118 Having significant powers, a governor with authoritarian tendencies would be a disaster for most people living under his/her rule. Given enough time I think most people are going to tilt that way.

It's human nature. Plus some people just "know" what's good for the masses.

A benign governor is eventually going to be supplanted by one who's got other ideas anyway. The corruption in the government establishment, all of it, is pretty deep.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2024 11:34 AM (Q4IgG)

119 Wouldn't it be easier and simpler just to have the governor appoint all those positions instead of having people vote for so many positions?

And that way, when these local governments screw up, they are safely insulated from having enraged voters kicking them out of office.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

That's what ya call Imperial Government,
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 06, 2024 11:29 AM (i9ffA)

Think of the marketing opportunities, man! Let each candidate make bid$ on the office they wish to hold. A potential goldmine.

Posted by: Gov. Rod Blagojevich at May 06, 2024 11:34 AM (4I/2K)

120 I had the opportunity to go through the transition of living in a suburb that became a city near L.A. in what is now the city of Santa Clarita

Loved their diet.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:34 AM (nFo4U)

121 Texas has had six different capitals. We'll find another.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:30 AM (nFo4U)

--------------

. Napalm Colony Ridge.
. Seize The Land
. Rebuild New Capital

Win-Win!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 06, 2024 11:35 AM (hxRN0)

122 On June 24, 2020, while the investigation was still underway, Thaci was in route to Washington at the invitation of President Trump to meet with him and Serbian President Vucic at the White House on June 27 in an effort to bring the two sides closer together, a historic opportunity.

However, at the very same time, [Jack] Smith’s office issued a press release stating that an indictment had been filed against Thaci (and three other KLA veterans), causing Thaci to return home immediately, and the White House meeting to be cancelled, surely a lost opportunity for normalising relations between Kosovo and Serbia.

Wow. Trump was out sealing the deal for peace in that war-ravaged land and Smith, despite hearing that peace was at hand, went ahead with the prosecutions just ahead of the Trump signing, just to Get Trump, and too bad if no peace happened. Anything but allow Trump to take credit for yet another peace deal.

.. I wonder why I never heard this story before

Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 11:35 AM (RHGPo)

123 You can have luxurious, thick hair while a conga line of models blows your rigid manhood.

Try Him's today!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:36 AM (R4t5M)

124 Missouri is the only state that gained territory after becoming a state.
Platte Purchase.

Posted by: MarkY at May 06, 2024 11:36 AM (bTxgO)

125 One day things are chill and then the next day 1500 Somalis get dropped off on Main St with housing vouchers.

yes, but which town should we choose next? there's so many....

Posted by: Lutheran Charities at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (25k9m)

126 Texas has had six different capitals. We'll find another.

Posted by: rickb223 at

I think they should go back to flying the 6 flags of TX on govt buldings

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (CIS44)

127 I thought that was the "spoils system" where the Man in Charge appoints all his friends, family, and cronies to key positions to loot the treasury until the next Man in Charge comes along...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:31 AM (7fElN)
++++
It's better than the "professional system" we have now. Yes, the spoils system is corrupt, but the particular corrupt bastards can be ejected with a changeover in leadership. It helps keep it contained because nobody can set down deep roots.

The permanent bureaucracy looks okay on paper - "it'll be less corrupt because it isn't a system comprised entirely of favors and personal loyalty" - but it isn't in reality. It's even more corrupt and hide-bound than the spoils system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (HnUIn)

128 I would very much like it if Colorado's Western Slope could be cartographically snapped off and annexed by Utah-

I would move there immediately

Posted by: Don Black at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (/7KEl)

129 Anything but allow Trump to take credit for yet another peace deal.

.. I wonder why I never heard this story before
Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 11:35 AM (RHGPo)

We just need better candidates.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (cyR1c)

130
Anything but allow Trump to take credit for yet another peace deal.

__________

Clinton sending forces to intervene in the Balkans was a catastrophe of the first order.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:38 AM (jsUQL)

131 125 One day things are chill and then the next day 1500 Somalis get dropped off on Main St with housing vouchers.

yes, but which town should we choose next? there's so many....
Posted by: Lutheran Charities at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (25k9m)

Lewison, Maine aka Little Mogadishu

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2024 11:39 AM (N39Ws)

132 31 When I lived in Chicago under the first Mayor Daley, I described it as "good government plus 10%".

And it really was just 10% - Daley and his immediate successors realized that taxes had to stay moderate to keep people and businesses in Chicago (one of Daley's most frequent boasts was that although Chicago had fewer welfare benefits than New York. the unemployment rate was always lower in Chicago than New York).

Now, the vultures running Chicago view businesses and affluent residents as sheep to be sheared, and really could care less about the long-term consequences.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:10 AM (uxCna)

A good parasite won't kill the host.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:39 AM (3AcBC)

133 Texas has had six different capitals. We'll find another.

Posted by: rickb223 at

I think they should go back to flying the 6 flags of TX on govt buldings
Posted by: BruceWayne

Crap. Actually 8.
Washington on the Brazos
Columbia
Houston
Austin
Back to Washington on the Brazos
Austin
Temporary Capital (Austin)
Austin - Current location

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:40 AM (nFo4U)

134 Missouri is the only state that gained territory after becoming a state.
Platte Purchase.
Posted by: MarkY

Not the only one. Nevada did, too. The Arizona Strip.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:41 AM (9yWhg)

135 Same here. It does get a little silly. We have elections for the county coroner! And then library board, assessor, treasurer, goes on and on. Position after position where nobody has any clue who’s running or what they even do.

Of course. Incumbents run unopposed for a lot of these positions, since no one pays attention to them.

The key thing is that if the county coroner, or the library, or some other local agency, starts screwing up, there is a way of getting rid of the people running the organization. Local governments know that, and generally stay in line.

Make them gubernatorial appointees staffed by political hacks, and you're never getting rid of them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 06, 2024 11:41 AM (uxCna)

136 Apartment buildings springing up like weeds here in Fat City-

just this morning saw where they are demolishing an extinct Sears auto center, no doubt to build another apartment building

Posted by: Don Black at May 06, 2024 11:41 AM (/7KEl)

137 St. Louis, Mo is a great example. It's one of a few hold out cities where the city and county governments are still tied together. Every few years there's an effort to correct the problem, but the corruption is too powerful.

St. Louis is broke, and the schools aren't even acredited anymore. I'm sure most of the county townships would prefer to break away completely. Chesterfield is a great example.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 06, 2024 11:42 AM (v6j1r)

138 Sorry, no time to read the post now, I'm sure it's good, but man, am I all for this thing to start breaking up. One way or another.

This is important, mainly so people are not ruled by distant autocrats, but also if we can get started on this concept, of people being able to decide for themselves, what level of government they want, we can put an end to federal overreach.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2024 11:42 AM (dGCAG)

139 Crap. Actually 8.
Washington on the Brazos
Columbia
Houston
Austin
Back to Washington on the Brazos
Austin
Temporary Capital (Austin)
Austin - Current location
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:40 AM (nFo4U)

Third time's the charm!

Posted by: Washington on the Brazos at May 06, 2024 11:43 AM (4I/2K)

140 107
‘ next day 1500 Somalis get dropped off on Main St with housing vouchers. ’

Ha. That or 10000 Palestinians. Your local leaders will have a ‘We Welcome Refugees’ banner.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 06, 2024 11:43 AM (jbnUc)

141 [iu]A benign governor is eventually going to be supplanted by one who's got other ideas anyway. The corruption in the government establishment, all of it, is pretty deep.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2024 11:34 AM (Q4IgG)

smarter people than I have thought about this:

The government wants to interfere in order to force businessmen to conduct their affairs in a different way than they would have chosen if they had obeyed only the consumers. Thus, all the measures of interventionism by the government are directed toward restricting the supremacy of consumers.

By intervening in how the markets work when left alone, the system is disrupted, and no matter how well meaning the intervention is, more intervention is required to fix and alter the unintended consequences. Even benign and moderate inteventions "for the good and plenty" reasons is actually a road toward complete manipulation and control of a society, and is the rout to totalitarianism.

The mechanisms are there, and the idea that it will make things better is there, so the end point is always there.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)

142 ignore -- sock change

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 11:44 AM (ZdexC)

143
Missouri is the only state that gained territory after becoming a state.
Platte Purchase.
Posted by: MarkY at May 06, 2024 11:36 AM (bTxgO)

___________

Pennsylvania got the Erie Triangle in 1792.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:45 AM (jsUQL)

144 St. Louis, Mo is a great example. It's one of a few hold out cities where the city and county governments are still tied together. Every few years there's an effort to correct the problem, but the corruption is too powerful.

St. Louis is broke, and the schools aren't even acredited anymore. I'm sure most of the county townships would prefer to break away completely. Chesterfield is a great example.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at May 06, 2024 11:42 AM (v6j1r)

Eh, you sorta have that backwards. These entities are almost COMPLETELY separate. The city made the decision, in the 19th century, to now allow those rubes in the county to have access to the bounty that was St. Louis city.

So... the county is now, for the most part, safe and prosperous, whereas the city is a broken hellhole. Other than whatever money still sits in downtown.

The city wants to tap into the county's wealth, and for the most part the county is like, nah bro. We're good.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2024 11:45 AM (dGCAG)

145 The permanent bureaucracy looks okay on paper - "it'll be less corrupt because it isn't a system comprised entirely of favors and personal loyalty" - but it isn't in reality. It's even more corrupt and hide-bound than the spoils system.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (HnUIn)

The spoils system was in line with the Founders idea that the federal government was to be "small" as compared to the state and local governance closer to the people, not necessarily that you could get rid of them - I mean there is only so many friends and family, right?

The current system is what allowed the federal government to expand like a star going Super Nova...and that was not what the Founders ever wanted.

Posted by: Boswell at May 06, 2024 11:45 AM (K+UlC)

146 St. Louis, Mo is a great example. It's one of a few hold out cities where the city and county governments are still tied together.

I thought that was one where the two are separate. St Louis City has the city income tax, for example, which drove all of the downtown businesses out to Clayton in the county to avoid the tax. The bad crime stats for St Louis are also concentrated because the City is so much smaller than the county.

Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 11:45 AM (25k9m)

147 Not the only one. Nevada did, too. The Arizona Strip.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

No, sorry. The Arizona Strip is still part of Arizona. But the easternmost and southernmost portions of Nevada were acquired by it after statehood.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:46 AM (9yWhg)

148 . . . Third time's the charm!
Posted by: Washington on the Brazos at May 06, 2024

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When we were young Rangers, Call and me, we really stirred up a ruckus in that town!

Posted by: Gus McCrae at May 06, 2024 11:46 AM (J2vNu)

149 The current system is what allowed the federal government to expand like a star going Super Nova...and that was not what the Founders ever wanted.
Posted by: Boswell at May 06, 2024 11:45 AM (K+UlC)
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It's been lethal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:46 AM (HnUIn)

150 You guys playing cards?

Posted by: Municipal Planning and Code Enforcement Department at May 06, 2024 11:46 AM (4I/2K)

151 This is important, mainly so people are not ruled by distant autocrats, but also if we can get started on this concept, of people being able to decide for themselves, what level of government they want, we can put an end to federal overreach.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 06, 2024 11:42 AM (dGCAG)

Most municipalities and states for that matter, are in over their boots in maintaining things they paid for with federal grants. To continue solvent they have to dance to what the feds says to get more grants.
Hence, Title IX and school lunch subsidies, and block grants being used to control local governmental policy on OMGBTBBQ and illegals and zoning ordinances. That can't be wished away, it has to be fixed.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 11:47 AM (D7oie)

152 Minoxodil? or Viagra? Or a mix of both, maybe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (xcxpd)

Yeah, but wouldn't that give you hair like Don King?

Posted by: Old Blue at May 06, 2024 11:47 AM (Pxa/w)

153 Catch Up
@CatchUpFeed
Columbia has canceled its graduation ceremony due to the ongoing protests.

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Well, obviously they didn't learn anything anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (L/fGl)

154 smarter people than I have thought about this:

The government wants to interfere in order to force businessmen to conduct their affairs in a different way than they would have chosen if they had obeyed only the consumers. Thus, all the measures of interventionism by the government are directed toward restricting the supremacy of consumers.

By intervening in how the markets work when left alone, the system is disrupted, and no matter how well meaning the intervention is, more intervention is required to fix and alter the unintended consequences. Even benign and moderate inteventions "for the good and plenty" reasons is actually a road toward complete manipulation and control of a society, and is the rout to totalitarianism.

The mechanisms are there, and the idea that it will make things better is there, so the end point is always there.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)

In most cases, I would agree with you on this. In fact, before c.2015 I probably would have. The problem now is that because of the advances made by Big Tech, they can effectively manipulate consumers by giving them what they 'want', but effectively limiting their choices of wants.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (3AcBC)

155 126 Texas has had six different capitals. We'll find another.

Posted by: rickb223 at

I think they should go back to flying the 6 flags of TX on govt buldings
Posted by: BruceWayne at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (CIS44)
This right there.

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (NxC5+)

156 Blackrock is demanding 500 mil payment for interest anually from Ukraine. Who do you think will be paying that? It won't be the Banderites.

Posted by: ryukyu at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (hR0kJ)

157 So this Hims CEO cocksucker ... what is he? A Jew himself? Palestinian CHUD? His posts about how his parents were Holocaust survivors was vague and oddly worded.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

158 Launch time change
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-56 - SLC-40 -
Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
SpaceX is targeting Monday, May 6 for a Falcon 9 launch of 23 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida.
Liftoff is at 2:14 p.m. EDT, 18:14 UTC, and 20:14 CEST, with backup opportunities available until 2:48 p.m. EDT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Tuesday, May 7 starting at 11:08 a.m. ET.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZMiiodhovD8

Posted by: Ciampino - fertilizer or just crap at May 06, 2024 11:50 AM (qfLjt)

159 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.

Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton at May 06, 2024 11:50 AM (V5BDR)

160 153 Catch Up
@CatchUpFeed
Columbia has canceled its graduation ceremony due to the ongoing protests.

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Well, obviously they didn't learn anything anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (L/fGl)

So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:51 AM (3AcBC)

161 Immigration Experts: Biden Plan To Import Gazan Refugees Would Be a National Security Disaster

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Well, sometimes so-called experts are right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

162 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton

Um, wasn't FJB born in Scranton?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:53 AM (9yWhg)

163 So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:51 AM (3AcBC)

Bad luck of the draw on these life events occurring during election seasons while a coup is ongoing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:53 AM (R4t5M)

164 So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.

I was denied the formal graduation ceremony for my daughter when she graduated college with her BSN. Just one more thing the COVID feardemic stole from me.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (N39Ws)

165
They should have annexed Delaware long ago.

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Nobody but nobody wants to annex New Jersey.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (jsUQL)

166
Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.

Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton at May 06, 2024 11:50 AM

I've seen pictures of a beautiful sandy beach up in the Erie area on whichever Great Lake that one is. State Park of some sort I think.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (RKVpM)

167 Fun fact. The Texas King Ranch has more square miles than Rhode Island and The Kingdom of Luxembourg combined.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (V5eKu)

168 62 St. George is a righteous name.
Posted by: Eromero

It's dragon itself out of Baton Rouge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:16 AM (9yWhg)
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St. George has a 45 caliber sword.
The Cross of St. George is part of the British Union Jack.

Posted by: Ciampino - The Dragon was eating maidens out of season at May 06, 2024 11:55 AM (qfLjt)

169 162
‘ wasn't FJB born in Scranton?’

Well, he says he was. So who the hell knows.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 06, 2024 11:55 AM (jbnUc)

170 You don't have to be an "expert" to know accepting immigrants from Gaza would be disastrous.
Just a functioning IQ about room temperature.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 06, 2024 11:55 AM (MeG8a)

171 Speaking of Austin . . .

Austin Votes to Become "Sanctuary City" for Minors Seeking Sex Changes

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I left my balls
In Austin Texas

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:55 AM (L/fGl)

172 A lot of the talk here ignores the fact that, historically, autocrats were the popular politicians, against the oligarchs. It's a recurrent theme.

E.g., in the 17th C it was the oligarchy in England that took over, beating the monarchs. But on the continent, the opposite was true. France and Russia get to have revolutions, but always end up with autocrats, in the modern era.

Of course, it always comes down to changing how you get the shaft.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 06, 2024 11:55 AM (1bNHn)

173 I skipped my college graduation, as did the three of my brothers who went to college. It was kind of a thing with the men in my family.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg)

174 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton

Um, wasn't FJB born in Scranton?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:53 AM (9yWhg)

Yep. And Hillary!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (R4t5M)

175 167 Fun fact. The Texas King Ranch has more square miles than Rhode Island and The Kingdom of Luxembourg combined.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (V5eKu)

Ah but how does it compare to the Kingdom of Cyprus or Empire of Trebizond?

Posted by: Someguy's phone at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (xSjoP)

176 Well, sometimes so-called experts are right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

Sometimes you don't need an expert

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (cyR1c)

177 Apartment buildings springing up like weeds here in Fat City-

just this morning saw where they are demolishing an extinct Sears auto center, no doubt to build another apartment building
Posted by: Don Black
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The same is happening in my little Progressive burg. Driving down a road that I haven't in the past year, almost inevitably, there will be a 250 unit apartment complex being constructed. The cry is always 'Affordable Housing!'.

What I see are 250-500 people who have no investment in the community, but only in socio-political idealogy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (XeU6L)

178 Checks written to "Cash" are a necessity in the ordinary course of bidness. Besides, everybody do that.

Posted by: Super Girl Mayor Tiffany Henyard at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (4I/2K)

179 160 153 Catch Up
@CatchUpFeed
Columbia has canceled its graduation ceremony due to the ongoing protests.

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Well, obviously they didn't learn anything anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (L/fGl)

So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:51 AM (3AcBC)
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Gee, I wonder if cancelling commencement and basically handing the campus over to vicious commie cannibals won't further embolden these savages??

There's an entire half-generation of young people who were fucked out of a normal life due to Covid and now this. The worst were those entering the job market in 2020. Their careers will forever be stunted. The Covid hysterics and frauds will never pay a price for this.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

180 166 Presque Isle State Park (actually a peninsula). Very nice, water taxis from downtown Erie are fun just for the ride. Lake Erie.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (V5eKu)

181 164 So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.

I was denied the formal graduation ceremony for my daughter when she graduated college with her BSN. Just one more thing the COVID feardemic stole from me.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (N39Ws)
The VMI Cadets had a similar thing happen to them when they marched to New Market on May 15 1864.

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (NxC5+)

182 I thought that was one where the two are separate. St Louis City has the city income tax, for example, which drove all of the downtown businesses out to Clayton in the county to avoid the tax. The bad crime stats for St Louis are also concentrated because the City is so much smaller than the county.
Posted by: brak

That's the way it was when I lived there. Believe it still is. County doesn't want the city snd their debts.

St. Louis is one of the few cities in the US that isn't inside a county.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (nFo4U)

183 Yellowstone county is almost twice as large as Rhode Islland ( if it exists)

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (iNp3L)

184
I skipped my college graduation, as did the three of my brothers who went to college. It was kind of a thing with the men in my family.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:56 AM

My son did the same thing for college. He probably would have skipped his HS graduation but they gave him a nice scholarship and he had to be there in person to collect.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (RKVpM)

185 Yeah, build apartments to house people that will have no JOBS.

Recipe for creating a shit hole.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (ufFY8)

186 Biden Lagging Trump in Voter Trust

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But Trump is the worstestest person ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (L/fGl)

187 Austin Votes to Become "Sanctuary City" for Minors Seeking Sex Changes
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Austin has freed itself from rule by Patriarchy and now one of it's priorities is to castrate children. Who could ever have imagined such a thing!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (Eur7t)

188 I've seen pictures of a beautiful sandy beach up in the Erie area on whichever Great Lake that one is. State Park of some sort I think.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (RKVpM)

/facepalm

It's Erie. Lake Erie.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (N1tpc)

189 180 166 Presque Isle State Park (actually a peninsula). Very nice, water taxis from downtown Erie are fun just for the ride. Lake Erie.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 11:57 AM (V5eKu)

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I wrote a book set in the area.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

190 Central, La preceded St. George. They got tired of sending their children to downtown baton rouge to be turned into drug dealers and shot. Central is now a beautiful little ritzy area with houses going up everywhere and Baton Rouge is dangerous to stop for gas in. Pisses the black racebaiters running Baton Rouge right off.

I think bailing out these failed cities is immoral. We have to make the voters feel the pain of their votes. And who perpetuates crime ridden cesspools?

We also desperately need to get rid of these all black voting districts. They are racist and unconstitutional. Courts need to stop enforcing them.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 11:59 AM (/gwdq)

191 186 Biden Lagging Trump in Voter Trust

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But Trump is the worstestest person ever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (L/fGl)

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Trump is a populist, which means he's the worst, most anti-Democratic tyrant ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

192 St. Louis is one of the few cities in the US that isn't inside a county.
Posted by: rickb223

Every city in Virginia is its own entity, and is legally not part of any county, even if it's the county seat.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:59 AM (9yWhg)

193 Austin is the San Fransisco of Texas with a dose of NYC DA’s office.

Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (MNhXM)

194 I've seen pictures of a beautiful sandy beach up in the Erie area on whichever Great Lake that one is. State Park of some sort I think.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 11:54 AM (RKVpM)

/facepalm

It's Erie. Lake Erie.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (N1tpc)

Spooky, even.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (4I/2K)

195 Presque Isle is great. Recommended in the summer and fall.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (R4t5M)

196
Presque Isle State Park (actually a peninsula). Very nice, water taxis from downtown Erie are fun just for the ride. Lake Erie.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door

Nice. After I hit post I thought "The Great Lake that's near Erie?"
D'uh.

On my bucket list for a trip there someday. Probably a six hour car ride from my SE corner of PA though.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (RKVpM)

197 Crap. Actually 8.
Washington on the Brazos
Columbia
Houston
Austin
Back to Washington on the Brazos
Austin
Temporary Capital (Austin)
Austin - Current location
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 11:40 AM (nFo4U)

Put the capitol in San Antonio. The Alamo is there, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (8zz6B)

198 Nothing says undemocratic like agreeing to give the people what they want.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (/gwdq)

199 Fun fact. The Texas King Ranch has more square miles than Rhode Island and The Kingdom of Luxembourg combined.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

XIT Ranch stands to 10 in Texas.
As in 10 counties. That's big.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (nFo4U)

200 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
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I sense a toy-soldiers wargame scenario in the offing -- but what time period??

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:01 PM (ZdexC)

201 Noncitizens find it easy to vote in U.S. elections
3 times likelier to register as Democrats

Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 12:01 PM (vhxFJ)

202 192 St. Louis is one of the few cities in the US that isn't inside a county.
Posted by: rickb223

Every city in Virginia is its own entity, and is legally not part of any county, even if it's the county seat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 11:59 AM (9yWhg)

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My dad was born in Richmond but grew up in Tennessee. He told me that he had a school assignment in elementary school where he had to write the city, county, and state he was born in.

He resisted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

203 King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (2ocoG)

204 Russell Brand Confirms Baptism: Is Grateful to Be “Surrendered in Christ”

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I hope I'm wrong but I'm getting a hint of the sin of pride from this.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (L/fGl)

205 In most cases, I would agree with you on this. In fact, before c.2015 I probably would have. The problem now is that because of the advances made by Big Tech, they can effectively manipulate consumers by giving them what they 'want', but effectively limiting their choices of wants.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 06, 2024 11:49 AM (3AcBC)

In both cases, what is going on is cartelism, whether by monopoly on access to law, through licensing of trades and occupations, legislation restricting sales or products, or by companies combining to restrict access to information or banking. I am big on hating cartelism by the way, since that leverages control over government enforcement to restrict access of consumers to things they want at the best price, and have to settle for what they can get for all the market will bear.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (D7oie)

206 198 Nothing says undemocratic like agreeing to give the people what they want.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (/gwdq)

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Remember how, for years, the left would say that Democratic Socialism can't be anti-democratic because the people vote for it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

207 Put the capitol in San Antonio. The Alamo is there, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (8zz6B)

30 years ago- yes.
Now- not a good idea.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (R4t5M)

208 203 King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon.
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Make Feudalism Great Again?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (Eur7t)

209 I would very much like it if Colorado's Western Slope could be cartographically snapped off and annexed by Utah-

I would move there immediately
Posted by: Don Black

I live on the Western Slope and agree.

Posted by: Cheri at May 06, 2024 12:02 PM (oiNtH)

210 All this time I thought King Ranch was just an F-150 trim level.

Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (OguvZ)

211 196 Pro tip. If you visit Erie in the Summer, find a place to stay down in, say, Meadville. The motel operators up in Erie go flat out nuts on prices during the Summer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (V5eKu)

212 The good news is that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has given notice to the city.

See here is where I disagree with even the "conservative opposition" to this shit.

There are laws on the books about taking children and mutilating them. Use them. And arrest the legislators passing "sanctuary laws" as accessories. And give them real prison time and a life on the sex offender registry.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (ibTVg)

213 Put the capitol in San Antonio. The Alamo is there, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (8zz6B)

We tried to move it to Austin, but got extreme pushback on the idea.

Posted by: George P. Bush, Frmr Land Commissioner at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (4I/2K)

214 Of course, it always comes down to changing how you get the shaft.
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Peter the Great's a mean mother fu...
hush yo mouth!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (ZdexC)

215 Make Feudalism Great Again?

Second look at tavern wenches?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (2ocoG)

216 I don't disagree that people democratically vote themselves into communism. It's getting back out that's the trick.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (/gwdq)

217 My dad was born in Richmond but grew up in Tennessee. He told me that he had a school assignment in elementary school where he had to write the city, county, and state he was born in.

He resisted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Why was that?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (9yWhg)

218 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton

Some residents of PA claim part of Atlantic City . IYNWIM.

Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (MNhXM)

219 203 King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon.
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Make Feudalism Great Again?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

I may have this wrong, but I thought that members of the royal crown didn't make policy/political speeches and just stumped for different charity causes, etc.

Posted by: Cheri at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (oiNtH)

220 I wrote a book set in the area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Hond

Are ya gonna tell us what the title was ?

Posted by: JT at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

221 Here in Atlanta Emory University has announced they will not be cancelling commence but will be moving it off campus, far into the hated, barren northern suburbs full of flyover people and actual safe spaces (not the snowflake type). You have to laugh at the idiocy of leftist academia.

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (JojsZ)

222 217 My dad was born in Richmond but grew up in Tennessee. He told me that he had a school assignment in elementary school where he had to write the city, county, and state he was born in.

He resisted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Why was that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (9yWhg)

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Because Richmond isn't in a county.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

223 Apparently, the area that would become the City of St. George was never incorporated into the City of Baton Rouge. There were plenty of opportunities to do so.

Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (RHGPo)

224 All this time I thought King Ranch was just an F-150 trim level.
Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 12:03 PM (OguvZ)

And a tasty chicken casserole dish.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

225 Anti-Israel Protester at UCLA Encampment Declares “We Don’t Like White People”

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Yeah, they suck!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (L/fGl)

226 220 I wrote a book set in the area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Hond

Are ya gonna tell us what the title was ?
Posted by: JT at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

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The Lord of the Rings.

(RIP Bernard Hill)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

227 >All this time I thought King Ranch was just an F-150 trim level.

Posted by: spindrift
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I thought it was a salad dressing

Posted by: Don Black at May 06, 2024 12:06 PM (/7KEl)

228 70 Split-off Chicago from the Rest of Illinois. Chicago can be renamed the Chicago Teachers Union and Feral Drug Gangs Special Territory. Food is allowed in; nothing else. Nothing gets out. A 30-foot wall around the Territory and a dense minefield 1000 yards offshore, backed-up by fast gunboats.

Posted by: Gref at May 06, 2024 11:15 AM (5fDan)

Make E.St.Louis the capitol.

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2024 11:17 AM (AwYPR)
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Capital?
ESL would be like frying pan --> fire
Make Cairo the capital and confuse everybody, .... wait, .... maybe not since they pronounce it Kay-row.

27 years ago I looked everywhere on the map for Vi-anna (the i is like eye) and didn't find it until a local put her finger on Vienna (as in Austria). Now I'm a local!

Posted by: Ciampino - The Dragon was eating maidens out of season at May 06, 2024 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

229 Because Richmond isn't in a county.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

No, but it's the equivalent of a county.

So he could've said Richmond for both the city and county.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:06 PM (9yWhg)

230 229 Because Richmond isn't in a county.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

No, but it's the equivalent of a county.

So he could've said Richmond for both the city and county.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:06 PM (9yWhg)

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He was also, like, 7 years old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

231 "King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon."

So no more jet travel for the little people? They have just about accomplish that with all the security, boarding and baggage nightmare at least in my in my case

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (JojsZ)

232 It's Erie. Lake Erie.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 06, 2024 11:58 AM (N1tpc)

there is a mnemonic for all the great lakes: LLLLL

for [L]ake Huron, [L]ake Ontario, [L]ake Michigan, [L]ake Erie, and [L]ake Superior.

You have to remember Champlain on your own, but that is OK because it isn't really great, it is just an excuse to dish Vermont in on some of the federal grants.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (D7oie)

233 The VMI Cadets had a similar thing happen to them when they marched to New Market on May 15 1864.
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https://is.gd/hMWbEm
2:08 minutes; a close match from the Horse Soldiers

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (ZdexC)

234 I like white people. They don't have to go back centuries to talk about something great they did or write themselves into someone else's history. I understand why that upsets some people.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (/gwdq)

235 Anti-Israel Protester at UCLA Encampment Declares “We Don’t Like White People”

There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:08 PM (2ocoG)

236 Nothing more I hate than when a limey comes here criticizes conservatives in America.

Mick Jagger can choke on Bowies ejaculate again.

Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:08 PM (MNhXM)

237 I wrote a book set in the area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Wait, you wrote a book?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/y8xj)

238 North Carolina high school student who went viral for hitting his teacher has been smacked with felony charges & is being charged as an adult.

https://t.co/JOsO0bFiKX

Posted by: Ciampino - Excellent outcome at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

239 Put the capitol in San Antonio. The Alamo is there, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2024 12:00 PM (8zz6B)

30 years ago- yes.
Now- not a good idea.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Does not matter where the physical bricks are.
*points to chest around heart area*

The Alamo resides *here* in every Texan.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (nFo4U)

240 Are ya gonna tell us what the title was ?
Posted by: JT at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

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The Lord of the Rings.

(RIP Bernard Hill)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

Whew.
I thought you were gonna say Promethius.

Posted by: JT at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (T4tVD)

241 He was also, like, 7 years old
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Rich men, north of Richmond....

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/gwdq)

242 Make E.St.Louis the capitol.

Y'all do know Springfield is the capitol of IL, not Chicago?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (2ocoG)

243 Capital?
ESL would be like frying pan --> fire
Make Cairo the capital and confuse everybody, .... wait, .... maybe not since they pronounce it Kay-row.

27 years ago I looked everywhere on the map for Vi-anna (the i is like eye) and didn't find it until a local put her finger on Vienna (as in Austria). Now I'm a local!
Posted by: Ciampino - The Dragon was eating maidens out of season at May 06, 2024 12:06 PM (qfLjt)
Cairo would be interesting. They do still plant cotton there, right?

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (NxC5+)

244 > There are laws on the books about taking children and mutilating them. Use them.
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Yup. But I wonder why the politicos seem to always want to write another law that addresses the issue, but with different punishments, thresholds and so on. It's like they don't really, honestly want to punish people for being insane or p3dos.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)

245 there is a mnemonic for all the great lakes: LLLLL

for [L]ake Huron, [L]ake Ontario, [L]ake Michigan, [L]ake Erie, and [L]ake Superior.

You have to remember Champlain on your own, but that is OK because it isn't really great, it is just an excuse to dish Vermont in on some of the federal grants.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:07 PM (D7oie)

That's so easy!

Posted by: GEICO Caveman at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (4I/2K)

246
there is a mnemonic for all the great lakes: LLLLL

for [L]ake Huron, [L]ake Ontario, [L]ake Michigan, [L]ake Erie, and [L]ake Superior.

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (RKVpM)

247 He was also, like, 7 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

OK, valid point.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (9yWhg)

248 Mick Jagger can choke on Bowies ejaculate again.
Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:08 PM (MNhXM)

*peeks in*

Posted by: Rod Stewart at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (R4t5M)

249 tinyurl doesn't seem to be working, so no link, but just check twitter for the Playstation account.

After 200,000 negative reviews were posted to Steam, and an unknown number of refunds demanded, Sony has bent the knee to he angry gamers of Helldivers and reversed their decision to force PC players to link a Playstation account in order to play a game they bought three months ago.

There were many problems, but the primary issues were PC gamers being subject to Sony's Term of Service which were presented as 'safety' and 'anti-harassment' features, and the fact that the game had been sold in over a hundred countries where playstation accounts aren't even available.

Posted by: Methos at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (Dnobf)

250 237 I wrote a book set in the area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Wait, you wrote a book?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/y8xj)

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"wrote a book" is so prosaic.

I banged on the keyboard until the red squiggles went away.

I'm actually illiterate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)

251 There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

Well, that's unfortunate. But there's still the possibility of her being a professor at any university in CA or NY, right?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (/y8xj)

252 So when the city charter is dissolved, who provides essential services? How does continuity of those occur?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (DIB8X)

253 King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon.

I'd like to see a reparations movement against Europe at this point - for serfdom and socialism...but mostly for the serfdom.

What's our national debt at? That number.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (ibTVg)

254 I'm actually illiterate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

And an asshole, too, I hear.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg)

255 I would very much like it if Colorado's Western Slope could be cartographically snapped off and annexed by Utah-

I would move there immediately
Posted by: Don Black

We need a new state. Western Colorado and Eastern Utah but not the SLC crazies. We could call it Utarado.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

256 Only the punch line

Pushes the Mexican out of the plane and yells Remember the Alamo.

Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:12 PM (MNhXM)

257 I may have this wrong, but I thought that members of the royal crown didn't make policy/political speeches and just stumped for different charity causes, etc.
Posted by: Cheri at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (oiNtH)

I am sure that was Elizabeth II's policy. but this is the dynamic and charismatic Charles who knows how to lead Great Britain into greatness.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:12 PM (D7oie)

258 254 I'm actually illiterate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

And an asshole, too, I hear.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg)

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It's true. Just ask the guy with the last comment on the most recent movie thread.

Everything was wrong. Every single thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

259 Everyone ignores Lake St Clair as well!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:12 PM (ZdexC)

260 251 There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

Well, that's unfortunate. But there's still the possibility of her being a professor at any university in CA or NY, right?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (/y8xj)

Right.

Posted by: Kathy Boudin at May 06, 2024 12:12 PM (3AcBC)

261 King Charles just gave a speech at the WEF in Davos about how Covid was the great reset they've been looking for, and now they should pounce and seize on it to make the peasants do what they want. What a maroon.

With what little true power the royal family has, they best be careful.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:13 PM (nFo4U)

262 There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:08 PM (2ocoG)

Seven year of college down the drain. Might as well join the fucking Peace Corps.

Posted by: Future Senatoress from AZ at May 06, 2024 12:13 PM (4I/2K)

263 "wrote a book" is so prosaic.

I banged on the keyboard until the red squiggles went away.

I'm actually illiterate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Must take *forever* to crank out those Movie Threads...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 12:13 PM (7fElN)

264 "call it Utarado"

Are we trying to invite a feminist takeover? Although with no men to do everything they might have a hard time getting off the ground.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:13 PM (/gwdq)

265 238 North Carolina high school student who went viral for hitting his teacher has been smacked with felony charges & is being charged as an adult.

https://t.co/JOsO0bFiKX
Posted by: Ciampino - Excellent outcome at May 06, 2024 12:09 PM (qfLjt)
_________

Two comments: One, this little homo hits like a girl. The teacher barely flinched after taking his slap. Two, is that teacher a tranny? It's supposedly a woman but "she" looks like a "woman."

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

266
There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

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I saw one of a woman at Columbia, I think, crying because she couldn't attend her graduation, having been suspended, which means she can't set foot on the campus. Thank heaven! however, the university protected her grades and her degree. She'll get all that, but she won't get her ceremony.

It's weird these people who usually thumb their nose at this wypipo shit like wearing a cap and gown and walking across a stage are so into it all of a sudden.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (lCaJd)

267 There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

Well, that's unfortunate. But there's still the possibility of her being a professor at any university in CA or NY, right?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (/y8xj)

She could also get a job as a boner pill salesman.

Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (OguvZ)

268 Seven year of college down the drain. Might as well join the fucking Peace Corps.
Posted by: Future Senatoress from AZ

We'll need those loans back.
Posted by: The Bank

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (nFo4U)

269 Does not matter where the physical bricks are.
*points to chest around heart area*

The Alamo resides *here* in every Texan.

I wonder if the replica used for the movie is still out there in Brackettville. That would be a good place to move the capitol to. Especially if we don't pay for air conditioning in the summer.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:15 PM (/y8xj)

270 There's video of a white woman at Arizona State crying because she found out she can't graduate due to now being a felon. FAFO.

Well, that's unfortunate. But there's still the possibility of her being a professor at any university in CA or NY, right?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:10 PM (/y8xj)

She could also get a job as a boner pill salesman.
Posted by: spindrift at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (OguvZ)

HR

Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:15 PM (MNhXM)

271 268 Seven year of college down the drain. Might as well join the fucking Peace Corps.
Posted by: Future Senatoress from AZ

We'll need those loans back.
Posted by: The Bank
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (nFo4U)

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"We're good."
-The University, counting the money

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

272 #233 The full battle scene:

https://is.gd/Kg49sJ
6:16 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (ZdexC)

273 I wonder if the replica used for the movie is still out there in Brackettville. That would be a good place to move the capitol to. Especially if we don't pay for air conditioning in the summer.
Posted by: Oddbob

It is. It's in dis-repair, but it's still there.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (nFo4U)

274 Seven year of college down the drain. Might as well join the fucking Peace Corps.
Posted by: Future Senatoress from AZ

We'll need those loans back.
Posted by: The Bank
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2024 12:14 PM (nFo4U)

No you don’t

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (MNhXM)

275 King Charles is a mental defective and a closet muzzie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (R4t5M)

276 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton

Delaware was a county of Pennsylvania up until the voted on the Constitution when they jumped out to be 1st to accept the Constitution and become their own state.

Posted by: SMOD at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (RHGPo)

277 17-year-old Aquavis Hickman has been indicted on assault and kidnapping charges for two separate incidents.

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I thought this was the Age of Aquavis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (L/fGl)

278 261 With what true power the royal family has. The way things are going in Blighty, they are on the road to having a Grand Mufti running the show.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 12:17 PM (V5eKu)

279 She could also get a job as a boner pill salesman.

There's only one pro-Palestinian boner pill company, and they lost $2 off of their $12 stock price since the CEO endorsed Hardons for Hamas.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:17 PM (2ocoG)

280 I thought it was the Age of Aquavelvet.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 06, 2024 12:17 PM (/gwdq)

281 279 She could also get a job as a boner pill salesman.

There's only one pro-Palestinian boner pill company, and they lost $2 off of their $12 stock price since the CEO endorsed Hardons for Hamas.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2024 12:17 PM (2ocoG)

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"Perfect time to buy and reward him for his loyalty to the cause."
-Blackrock and Vanguard

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 06, 2024 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

282 Delaware was a county of Pennsylvania up until the voted on the Constitution when they jumped out to be 1st to accept the Constitution and become their own state.
Posted by: SMOD

Of course they were first. Their governor at the time was Sponge McSponge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2024 12:18 PM (9yWhg)

283 Texas has some nasty laws that make cities almost untouchable.

And unaccountable.

They allow them to annex surrounding communities almost at will.
They allow them a form of governance that ends with only the bureaucrats in charge.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 06, 2024 12:18 PM (g9W3m)

284 Nood. Ace is awake.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:18 PM (R4t5M)

285 I wonder if the replica used for the movie is still out there in Brackettville. That would be a good place to move the capitol to. Especially if we don't pay for air conditioning in the summer.

more cartel members than citizens there but maybe that would improve the state government

Posted by: brak at May 06, 2024 12:19 PM (25k9m)

286 275 King Charles is a mental defective and a closet muzzie.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (R4t5M)

But the fringe benefits are so worth it.

Posted by: The Queen Consort, eat your heart out Meghan at May 06, 2024 12:19 PM (PiwSw)

287 It took Houston about 15 years to reach the debt level Detroit built in 60 years. You can track it directly to the pension explosion initiated Lee. P. Brown in 2003.

I quit caring when I moved out 5 years ago.

Posted by: DanMan at May 06, 2024 12:19 PM (8uzBS)

288 So when the city charter is dissolved, who provides essential services? How does continuity of those occur?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (DIB8X)

Who did all that before the incorporation?

What do you think are essential, and why do you think someone might not decide to do it instead, since there is obviously a need and people who are accustomed to pay for it?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:19 PM (D7oie)

289 6 There are bubbling municipal secession movements across the country

Don't forget the San Fernando Valley trying to secede from LA.

That worked as well as the Newsom recall, pretty much for the same reasons.

Posted by: Grumpy Old Ham at May 06, 2024 12:20 PM (b6Yv0)

290 I thought this was the Age of Aquavis.

I am assuming -- and will continue to assume even if shown to be wrong -- that his mother intended to name him Aquavelva but had messy handwriting.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 06, 2024 12:20 PM (/y8xj)

291 282 At the Constitutional Convention, Delaware was first to recognize Visa, Discover, and Mastercard.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2024 12:20 PM (V5eKu)

292 Pennsylvania has become the land of storage units. Now joining it are huge warehouses. If not taken by Amazon, etc. then what? Huge empty warehouses that we also already have, hither and yon, along with few willing to take the well paying jobs of warehouseman (and/or warehousewoman).

Any port in the storm to get one's hand in real estate is what's important, I suppose. And now, some of the nicer urban suburbs are converting the empty warehouses & catholic schools to apartment and condos, further quickly changing the landscape.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 06, 2024 12:21 PM (NFX2v)

293 tinyurl doesn't seem to be working,
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Use this instead:
https://is.gd/

I think tinyurl's popup pushing their pay version is effing-up access to the site.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 06, 2024 12:22 PM (ZdexC)

294 So, if you graduated from HS in 2020, COVID destroyed your chances of a formal ceremony. You then go to college, only to have the campus terrorists destroy your chances of yet another formal ceremony.

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I missed my HS graduation because I took off on a trip. School ended about a week before graduation and I was out of town already.

I didn’t really care, HS was always just a holding pattern until college. Graduation was whatever. Nobody really gave a shit about it.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 12:23 PM (8ZLyY)

295 Live from San Diego - cops vs students
https://www.twitch.tv/1strespondersmedia

Posted by: Ciampino - Will not end well at May 06, 2024 12:24 PM (qfLjt)

296 The entire country is storage units. It’s amazing how much junk we collectively own.

Posted by: Montec at May 06, 2024 12:26 PM (8ZLyY)

297 275 King Charles is a mental defective and a closet muzzie.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 06, 2024 12:16 PM (R4t5M)

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Fuck that pathetic, do nothing, entitled, asshole.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 06, 2024 12:31 PM (JeYYB)

298 Wait, people are just now realizing that Mark Hammill's only significant role was that of an orphan boy who was taken in by a religious cult and exhaustively trained to assassinate the head of an elected government in order to throw the entire system into chaos?
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Don't forget that it was a hereditary caste system and supremacist religious cult.
And dont overlook the casual, widespread enslavement of sentient "droids."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 06, 2024 12:33 PM (g9W3m)

299 I grew up in Chicago under the old Mayor Daley. He observed the rule that said we would ignore some corruption in return for safety and services. The crime stopped at the Chicago border, so we in the suburbs were safe and happy.

The new guys don't follow this rule. Pol Pot is a good analogy. Yet the people don't even vote. Why? Are they hoping the old Tammany Hall will come back?

Posted by: PJ at May 06, 2024 12:56 PM (G1dq6)

300 Buck reminds us that hyper-evil rich people DO NOT WORK, channeling his inner hate-filled Marxist.

Really. Can we stop using the language of the Left and bin phrases like “working class”? I realize envy, hatred and resentment are great moral virtues to many Americans, but come on…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2024 12:57 PM (Ds3Rc)

301 A break up of Austin would be meaningless. Don’t forget that it is a part of the Marxist Travis County.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 06, 2024 12:59 PM (Ds3Rc)

302 “ There are generally two hallmarks of failed cities – rampant crime and failed schools.”

There is generally one hallmark of rampant crime and failed schools.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 06, 2024 02:28 PM (ulZzs)

303 >> Or perhaps putting Chicago in federal receivership,

Like DC?

what has changed is now cities can rely on federal funds and federal welfare earners. Look up Curley Effect. This is only possible because cities do not need middle income earners and businesses to survive. In the 60s, when there was white flight, these cities dried up. The feds stepped in and turned it into a viable business model for them.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 06, 2024 02:29 PM (5ubUV)

304 Wouldn't the state legislature (located in Austin) have to agree to this?

And what would it mean if the state capital is no longer a municipality within the state?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2024 11:13 AM (7fElN)

Why would it mean anything? The government is the people elected not the location they meet at. State capitals used to move with the population (often away from it, to more centrally located areas) all the time in the Midwest.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

305 I grew up in Chicago under the old Mayor Daley. He observed the rule that said we would ignore some corruption in return for safety and services. The crime stopped at the Chicago border, so we in the suburbs were safe and happy.

The new guys don't follow this rule. Pol Pot is a good analogy. Yet the people don't even vote. Why? Are they hoping the old Tammany Hall will come back?
Posted by: PJ at May 06, 2024 12:56 PM (G1dq6)

Vote for who, precisely? Even back in my day in the 1990s it was which clique of Democrats took the spoils of running the state. Government reform was a Federal probe arresting especially corrupt people every 4 years or so. I remember asking co-workers there who were content that the first Black Mayor was just going to change who got the kickbacks if they could an imagine a city government that wasn't corrupt. They couldn't.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 02:55 PM (eoQWY)

306 Wait, people are just now realizing that Mark Hammill's only significant role was that of an orphan boy who was taken in by a religious cult and exhaustively trained to assassinate the head of an elected government in order to throw the entire system into chaos?
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Don't forget that it was a hereditary caste system and supremacist religious cult.
And dont overlook the casual, widespread enslavement of sentient "droids."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 06, 2024 12:33 PM (g9W3m)

The republic had human slaves as well, and presumably alien ones. Darth Vader was born a slave.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 02:56 PM (eoQWY)

307 So when the city charter is dissolved, who provides essential services? How does continuity of those occur?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (DIB8X)

Who did all that before the incorporation?

What do you think are essential, and why do you think someone might not decide to do it instead, since there is obviously a need and people who are accustomed to pay for it?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 06, 2024 12:19 PM (D7oie)

The main reason for secession of a district is likely to be that the city is not providing these essential services in the first place.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 02:59 PM (eoQWY)

308 Oldcat, they could have voted for Vallas last time. We usually do have to pick the lesser of two evils, bc humans are fallible. And they could get off their butts and start organizing and recruiting actual good candidates.

But sitting around bemoaning their fate will get them nowhere, if they intend of staying in Illinois.

Posted by: PJ at May 06, 2024 03:04 PM (G1dq6)

309 I would very much like it if Colorado's Western Slope could be cartographically snapped off and annexed by Utah-

I would move there immediately
Posted by: Don Black

We need a new state. Western Colorado and Eastern Utah but not the SLC crazies. We could call it Utarado.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 06, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

Why bother with continuity? Go for high bidders and join a state. We already have states with disconnected bits - Michigan, a tiny bit of Kentucky. Join North Dakota and be the big fish for a change.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

310 The permanent bureaucracy looks okay on paper - "it'll be less corrupt because it isn't a system comprised entirely of favors and personal loyalty" - but it isn't in reality. It's even more corrupt and hide-bound than the spoils system.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2024 11:37 AM (HnUIn)

Read up on Mandarins in China or the Wars between the bureaucrats and nobles that led to the loss of the battle of Manzikert and most of the territory of the Byzantine Empire.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 03:14 PM (eoQWY)

311 Pennsylvania got ripped off big-time. Huge in size east coast state, but no ocean beaches. They should have annexed Delaware long ago. Then we wouldn't have the Bidens torturing and robbing us.
Posted by: No Surf's Up In Scranton

Some residents of PA claim part of Atlantic City . IYNWIM.
Posted by: polynikes at May 06, 2024 12:04 PM (MNhXM)

It meant that in the Revolution it took a huge campaign to take the city which is why Congress moved there, instead of just having the Royal Navy just move in like they did in Boston and Manhattan in NY, Charleston in SC.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 06, 2024 03:19 PM (eoQWY)

312 Awｅsome post.

Posted by: catwalk at May 06, 2024 03:39 PM (vnQ4c)

313 Politicians are never going to be responsive. People need to ignore them and reshape states and localities that do not respond.

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