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Daily Caller: Biden's "Miracle Economy" Is Straight-Up 1970s Stagflation
Trump is the biggest job-losing president in history, you know.
Welcome Back Carter.
The U.S. economy is showing signs of stagflation as growth slumps down and prices continue to surge for average Americans, experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation. U.S. annual economic growth measured just 1.6% in the first quarter of 2024, following a report of persistently high inflation in March of 3.5% year-over-year. The combination of both low growth and high inflation, in conjunction with continuously high amounts of government spending and debt, has led to signs of stagflation in the U.S. economy, which wreaked havoc on U.S. consumers throughout the 1970's, according to experts who spoke to the DCNF. "It's not so much that we risk stagflation as we're already there," E.J. Antoni, a research fellow at the Heritage Foundation's Grover M. Hermann Center for the Federal Budget, told the DCNF. "We have basically pulled forward trillions of dollars of economic growth by borrowing from the future, but that must be repaid at some point. And it is highly inefficient as well."
Stagflation is a unique economic phenomenon that involves slow growth, high unemployment, and elevated inflation and is particularly difficult to address as solutions for one issue can exacerbate the others, according to Investopedia. The most notable example of stagflation occurred in the 1970's, after an oil crisis.
No problem for Biden! He'll just pivot to immigration.
The U.S. national debt climbed above $34 trillion for the first time at the start of 2024 and currently sits at nearly $34.6 trillion, according to the Treasury Department. The national debt has increased by around $6.8 trillion since President Joe Biden first took office in January 2021. "Stagflation is the inevitable result of Bidenomics," Michael Faulkender, chief economist at the America First Policy Institute, told the DCNF. "When you massively increase spending, whether green subsidies or student loan forgiveness, while simultaneously reducing the ability of the economy to produce because of all the regulatory restrictions being imposed, you get reductions in growth with higher prices. If Bidenomics continues, then we should expect stagflation to continue." Biden has made high-spending policies part of his broader agenda, signing the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan in March 2021 and the $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Law in November 2021. The president also signed the Inflation Reduction Act in August 2022, which authorized $750 billion in new spending, with $370 billion of that dedicated to green initiatives to combat climate change. The Biden administration's latest plan to forgive student loans would cost an estimated $559 billion over the next ten years through various loan cancellations and interest suspensions. The president had one of his previous, more costly plans to forgive student loans struck down by the Supreme Court in June 2023.
A clear majority of US voters say that border security is the most important thing for Congress to work on with a little more than six months to go before next year's election. Nearly six in 10 voters (57%) say that "border reform legislation" is "more important" than "all other things Congress could be working on," according to a poll conducted by Public Opinion Strategies and Americans for Prosperity released Monday. A plurality of voters (42%) said they were most in favor of a hypothetical policy to "secure our border and ports," while another 36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system.
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i've got my sweater ready....
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (nXhwP)
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corgis called
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (nXhwP)
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Google lays off 200 workers, shifts jobs to Mexico and India in latest restructuring
https://tinyurl.com/mrxkdmnc
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:13 PM
Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
Great Reset and new normal. Replace American workers with benefits and 401(k) and profit sharing with cheap contract workers in India and Mexico who company only has to pay salary, which is $35k-$50k less per year.
Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
https://tinyurl.com/mrxkdmnc
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:13 PM
Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
Great Reset and new normal. Replace American workers with benefits and 401(k) and profit sharing with cheap contract workers in India and Mexico who company only has to pay salary, which is $35k-$50k less per year.
Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
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Posted that at end of last thread, but it's more applicable to the topic here.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
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Carter may have outlived the GOP fix to his economic mistakes, but his foreign policy fuck-ups will outlive us all.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (JdhGg)
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Biden pivots to immigration by opening our border to Gaza "refugees": That is, dark age animals posing as refugees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Biden pivots to immigration by opening our border to Gaza "refugees": That is, dark age animals posing as refugees.
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:25 PM (x0n13)
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No problem for Biden! He'll just pivot to immigration.
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President Malala incoming.
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President Malala incoming.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (JdhGg)
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Iran, Panama Canal, giving Zimbabwe to Mugabe, greenlighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Off the top of my head.
Iran, Panama Canal, giving Zimbabwe to Mugabe, greenlighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Off the top of my head.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (x0n13)
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Bidenomics on rye, hold the malaise.
Posted by: Roy at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (z+ik4)
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Bunch of backwoods MAGA terrorists don't know that Ukraine is our top priority.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (Ectld)
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#8 referring to Dhimmi Carter's foreign policy highlights.
#8 referring to Dhimmi Carter's foreign policy highlights.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (x0n13)
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Nearly six in 10 voters (57%) say that "border reform legislation" is "more important" than "all other things Congress could be working on,"
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That’s such a bullshit phrasing. What does border reform mean? To a lot of people it probably means erase the border.
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That’s such a bullshit phrasing. What does border reform mean? To a lot of people it probably means erase the border.
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (Y6Wgg)
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The economy is bad? The hell you say!
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (DRSnL)
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The U.S. national debt climbed above $34 trillion for the first time at the start of 2024 and currently sits at nearly $34.6 trillion, according to the Treasury Department.
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What could possibly go wrong?
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What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (v0R5T)
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Stagflation is a unique economic phenomenon that involves slow growth, high unemployment, and elevated inflation and is particularly difficult to address as solutions for one issue can exacerbate the others, according to Investopedia. The most notable example of stagflation occurred in the 1970's, after an oil crisis.
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Ah, but the government says that growth is healthy, unemployment is low, and inflation has been whipped.
Changing the reported numbers fixed the underlying problems, right?
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Ah, but the government says that growth is healthy, unemployment is low, and inflation has been whipped.
Changing the reported numbers fixed the underlying problems, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
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This junta couldn't pivot in a bucket full of grease. They've so thoroughly ass-fucked the status quo that they have absolutely zero options to fix anything except to all resign their positions and disembowel themselves on the national mall.
And the really ridiculous thing is that this was likely all somebody's plan all along.
And the really ridiculous thing is that this was likely all somebody's plan all along.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (+yhUM)
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We've had several comments today suggesting that the Dems are okay with Trump winning, because they'll be able to blame the catastrophic consequences of their imbecilic policies on Trump. Unfortunately, I think the piper arrived too early to pull that dodge. People know it's Biden and the Dems who caused all this.
Oh, the Dems will try, but I don't think anyone will bite.
Oh, the Dems will try, but I don't think anyone will bite.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (CsUN+)
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Does that make this morning in America?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Ectld)
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Even Fen's babe in the last thread is trying to save money by not wearing underwear.
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 04:28 PM (v0R5T)
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I got nothing
Posted by: bed head at May 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Y1sOo)
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Going to the grocery store is a real eye opener.
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (JeYYB)
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Don't y'all be talkin' smack about Daddy.
Posted by: Amy Carter, Presidential Advisor at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (PiwSw)
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I always ask myself, "What would President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho advise?", and I do that.
Posted by: Joe Biden, confused and demented, but happy! at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (nPSm+)
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Changing the reported numbers fixed the underlying problems, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
Take some global warming data. Replace °C with $. Send that shit off to the printers. America is back, baby.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)
Take some global warming data. Replace °C with $. Send that shit off to the printers. America is back, baby.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (+yhUM)
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forty-second!
Posted by: deep thought at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (v3pYe)
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Trump is the biggest job-losing president in history, you know.
The number of jobs he lost globally was staggering!
The number of jobs he lost globally was staggering!
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (c5wrR)
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Iran, Panama Canal, giving Zimbabwe to Mugabe, greenlighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Off the top of my head.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (x0n13)
Malaise speech. Blaming everything on voters just not being happy with the disasters.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (x0n13)
Malaise speech. Blaming everything on voters just not being happy with the disasters.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (eoQWY)
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"Dems are okay with Trump winning, because they'll be able to blame the catastrophic consequences of their imbecilic policies on Trump."
Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
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Joeconomics
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (v0R5T)
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Stagflation is a unique economic phenomenon that involves slow growth, high unemployment, and elevated inflation and is particularly difficult to address as solutions for one issue can exacerbate the others, according to Investopedia. The most notable example of stagflation occurred in the 1970's, after an oil crisis.
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And don't forget, that was impossible according to mainstream economists. But whatever.
Unlike the 70s, we have no more debt capacity. Gonna be a problem.
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And don't forget, that was impossible according to mainstream economists. But whatever.
Unlike the 70s, we have no more debt capacity. Gonna be a problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Gay dancers at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (CsUN+)
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Going to the grocery store is a real eye opener.
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (JeYYB)
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Or paying for car insurance. WTH is going on there?
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (JeYYB)
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Or paying for car insurance. WTH is going on there?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (DRSnL)
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Afternoon.
"...little more than six months to go before next year's election."
Six month's before *next year's* election?
Where the fuck is the copy editor?
"...little more than six months to go before next year's election."
Six month's before *next year's* election?
Where the fuck is the copy editor?
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (1Yy3c)
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Don’t worry about the Palestinians coming here guys. Biden said they’ll have to go through really tough screening before being allowed in.
Why are you all laughing?
Why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11 15h
🚨🚨According to "internal government documents" reviewed by CBS, Joe Biden's is now considering granting Gazans "a permanent safe haven here in the US."
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
🚨🚨According to "internal government documents" reviewed by CBS, Joe Biden's is now considering granting Gazans "a permanent safe haven here in the US."
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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A plurality of voters (42%) said they were most in favor of a hypothetical policy to "secure our border and ports," while another 36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system.
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That's fairly damning, and underscores a problem with modern government.
"FINE, DO WHAT YOU WANT, JUST MAKE THE CHAOS STOP!"
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That's fairly damning, and underscores a problem with modern government.
"FINE, DO WHAT YOU WANT, JUST MAKE THE CHAOS STOP!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (HnUIn)
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28 "Dems are okay with Trump winning, because they'll be able to blame the catastrophic consequences of their imbecilic policies on Trump."
Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
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Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
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Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
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"36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system."
We HAVE those rules and laws. The problem is rogue govt that refuses to enforce the laws.
We HAVE those rules and laws. The problem is rogue govt that refuses to enforce the laws.
Posted by: gp Shakes Your Milkdrink at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (MvF+J)
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STOP THE HAMMERING!
Posted by: Joe Biden, confused and demented, but happy! at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (nPSm+)
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"Biden said they’ll have to go through really tough screening before being allowed in."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoM-ZC7uNnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoM-ZC7uNnc
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (Ectld)
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Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
Great Reset and new normal. Replace American workers with benefits and 401(k) and profit sharing with cheap contract workers in India and Mexico who company only has to pay salary, which is $35k-$50k less per year.
Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
Great Reset and new normal. Replace American workers with benefits and 401(k) and profit sharing with cheap contract workers in India and Mexico who company only has to pay salary, which is $35k-$50k less per year.
Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
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Stolen elections have consequences.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (JMAcK)
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Going to the grocery store is a real eye opener.
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Posted by: Seems Legit
Those don't count when you're figuring inflation.
Or filling your car with gas.
Or paying for electricity.
Posted by: Seems Legit
Those don't count when you're figuring inflation.
Posted by: Paul Krugman's Child Porn-Infested Computer at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (PwgSL)
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Don’t worry about the Palestinians coming here guys. Biden said they’ll have to go through really tough screening before being allowed in.
Why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (Y6Wgg)
I think he means they'll be checked for suicide vests and detonators. Maybe.
Why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (Y6Wgg)
I think he means they'll be checked for suicide vests and detonators. Maybe.
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (1Yy3c)
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Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
They probably don't have an effective sue-and-settle graft system up and running.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
They probably don't have an effective sue-and-settle graft system up and running.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (IG4Id)
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Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
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That's what it's going to take here, too.
Will anyone have the nuggets?
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
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That's what it's going to take here, too.
Will anyone have the nuggets?
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (v0R5T)
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But no policy makers are over age 29 so they have no memory of stagflation
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)
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Or paying for car insurance. WTH is going on there?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (DRSnL)
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Costs are way, way up and investment returns are often not doing great. It's crippling, and so is homeowner. For me, 2023 was 18% higher than 2022 and 2024 was 15.5% higher than 2023. Homeowner insurance is brutal.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (DRSnL)
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Costs are way, way up and investment returns are often not doing great. It's crippling, and so is homeowner. For me, 2023 was 18% higher than 2022 and 2024 was 15.5% higher than 2023. Homeowner insurance is brutal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)
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Milei turned Argentina around in SIX MONTHS. AFTER gutting the entire government.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
Argentina has a much more powerful Presidenté.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Ectld)
Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
Argentina has a much more powerful Presidenté.
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (1Yy3c)
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I've lived through stagflation. Unemployment was much worse then than it is now. This inflation is the killer.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (MvF+J)
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Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
******
This is happening to friends of mine who are engineers and are making over 170,000 they are being replaced with cheaper international labor.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
******
This is happening to friends of mine who are engineers and are making over 170,000 they are being replaced with cheaper international labor.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (NpAcC)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Jorge Bonilla
@BonillaJL
MSNBC's Alex Wagner frets that the campus protests at Columbia and elsewhere might lead to the next Reagan Era
Jorge Bonilla
@BonillaJL
MSNBC's Alex Wagner frets that the campus protests at Columbia and elsewhere might lead to the next Reagan Era
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (L/fGl)
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tell it to the 90 million "people" who will "vote" for him in November.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (tQtDb)
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Unlike the 1970s, our national Debt wasn’t in the fuqing TRILLIONS.
There is no Paul Volker coming to save us this time .
They’ve burnt down the house on purpose
🤬
There is no Paul Volker coming to save us this time .
They’ve burnt down the house on purpose
🤬
Posted by: browndog has been there ,done that at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (pY+ea)
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I think he means they'll be checked for suicide vests and detonators. Maybe.
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (1Yy3c)
Those are on the "Let them in" list.
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (1Yy3c)
Those are on the "Let them in" list.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (PwgSL)
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Homeowner insurance is brutal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)
If you can get it... Our company cancelled us. Never had a claim for the 20 years we had it... It was a miracle we found a replacement at a much higher cost
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)
If you can get it... Our company cancelled us. Never had a claim for the 20 years we had it... It was a miracle we found a replacement at a much higher cost
Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (Akjoo)
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And don't forget, that was impossible according to mainstream economists. But whatever.
Unlike the 70s, we have no more debt capacity. Gonna be a problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (HnUIn)
Yeah I took Econ 101 in college under late stage Carter. Book said can't have inflation AND unemployment at the same time. Both were at record highs at the time. Decided mainstream economists were idiots.
later after college I did read alternative economists on my own, the Austrians like Mises.
Unlike the 70s, we have no more debt capacity. Gonna be a problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (HnUIn)
Yeah I took Econ 101 in college under late stage Carter. Book said can't have inflation AND unemployment at the same time. Both were at record highs at the time. Decided mainstream economists were idiots.
later after college I did read alternative economists on my own, the Austrians like Mises.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (eoQWY)
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When people get hungry for drugs, they’re dangerous. When they’re hungry for food, they’re lethal.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (Z1jJH)
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I think he means they'll be checked for suicide vests and detonators. Maybe.
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (1Yy3c)
... if you cannot afford a suicide vest and detonator, one will be appointed to you by the state....
Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (1Yy3c)
... if you cannot afford a suicide vest and detonator, one will be appointed to you by the state....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (+yhUM)
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47 But no policy makers are over age 29 so they have no memory of stagflation
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)
Well, and the continued expansion of the entitlement state - the multiple Medicaid expansions, Obamacare, and prescription drug expansions...
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)
Well, and the continued expansion of the entitlement state - the multiple Medicaid expansions, Obamacare, and prescription drug expansions...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (exHjb)
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I think he means they'll be checked for suicide vests and detonators. Maybe.
Posted by: Robert
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And be issued one if they don't already have it
Posted by: Robert
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And be issued one if they don't already have it
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (wQXfi)
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Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
This is completely true.
I still can't fault the "let it burn" people. Everything looks hopeless. Our industries, academies, and government have been fully captured by the left.
The "right-wing" party isn't but only pays lip service to "resistance". It wants the same destination as the Democrats, but at a slower pace.
That's what the "Let it burn" people are dealing with.
They know people will lose jobs, but their opinion is that it will be better to deal with that now than in the future when there's even less chance of rebuilding.
I don't (well, not always) side with the "let it burn" crowd, but I understand it.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
This is completely true.
I still can't fault the "let it burn" people. Everything looks hopeless. Our industries, academies, and government have been fully captured by the left.
The "right-wing" party isn't but only pays lip service to "resistance". It wants the same destination as the Democrats, but at a slower pace.
That's what the "Let it burn" people are dealing with.
They know people will lose jobs, but their opinion is that it will be better to deal with that now than in the future when there's even less chance of rebuilding.
I don't (well, not always) side with the "let it burn" crowd, but I understand it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (JMAcK)
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This is happening to friends of mine who are engineers and are making over 170,000 they are being replaced with cheaper international labor.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (NpAcC)
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The common narrative has been, "high tech layoffs are over." That's been the line since Big Tech trimmed some fat last year.
It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM (NpAcC)
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The common narrative has been, "high tech layoffs are over." That's been the line since Big Tech trimmed some fat last year.
It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)
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If they are able to drag this vicious degenerate monster across the finish line, this country is finished.
Forget about the economic depravity, the wars and the like, we cannot have an additional 16M illegals that that would portend.
It will swamp us and carry us to the abyss.
Forget about the economic depravity, the wars and the like, we cannot have an additional 16M illegals that that would portend.
It will swamp us and carry us to the abyss.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (XV/Pl)
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3 Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
*whistles innocently*
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: chatgpt at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (v3pYe)
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Good. I want everyone to have to push a wheelbarrow around full of worthless dollars so I can point and laugh as they eat Raman noodles and drink warm water from the garden hose.
Hahahahahaha!
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (4a+k3)
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I just backed out of a purchase contract for a house because I have no confidence that the rates will go down any time soon. Thanks, Joe.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (sNc8Y)
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Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM
Didn't President Trump have bunch of policies that did just that during his first term? He was both punishing companies for doing business out of the country and incentivizing companies for bringing jobs back to the USA. I remember that spurred automakers to bring vehicle builds back to US plants.
In addition, he put a halt to the progressively rising EPA regulations that were put in place under the Obama Administration. That allowed the auto industry to remain focused on gas vehicles customers wanted. First week in office, Deep State had Biden put the EPA regulations back in place and the progressive rise -- with 2025 spike -- back in motion. 2 months later, company changed to EV focus going forward.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM
Didn't President Trump have bunch of policies that did just that during his first term? He was both punishing companies for doing business out of the country and incentivizing companies for bringing jobs back to the USA. I remember that spurred automakers to bring vehicle builds back to US plants.
In addition, he put a halt to the progressively rising EPA regulations that were put in place under the Obama Administration. That allowed the auto industry to remain focused on gas vehicles customers wanted. First week in office, Deep State had Biden put the EPA regulations back in place and the progressive rise -- with 2025 spike -- back in motion. 2 months later, company changed to EV focus going forward.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (P5BPp)
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Good. I want everyone to have to push a wheelbarrow around full of worthless dollars so I can point and laugh as they eat Raman noodles and drink warm water from the garden hose.
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (4a+k3)
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Oh, c'mon. Wheelbarrows are old-fashioned. Just move everything to an electronic version of the currency!
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (4a+k3)
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Oh, c'mon. Wheelbarrows are old-fashioned. Just move everything to an electronic version of the currency!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (HnUIn)
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1930's: "Buddy, can you spare a dime?"
2024: "Buddy, can you spare a C-note?"
2024: "Buddy, can you spare a C-note?"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (ynpvh)
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But no policy makers are over age 29 so they have no memory of stagflation
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)
Most of our GDP is idiots shuffling paper from one office to another. We used to have industries that made actual products. That's why the sanctioneers failed so badly vs Russia. Its hard to hurt a country with industry and raw materials by taking away a credit card.
Key difference between then and now: the nAtional debt exceeds the gross domestic product
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:32 PM (RIvkX)
Most of our GDP is idiots shuffling paper from one office to another. We used to have industries that made actual products. That's why the sanctioneers failed so badly vs Russia. Its hard to hurt a country with industry and raw materials by taking away a credit card.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Taking away their jobs (and paying them to do nothing) will eliminate the burden they put on America.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Taking away their jobs (and paying them to do nothing) will eliminate the burden they put on America.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (rECWU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (63Dwl)
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According to "internal government documents" reviewed by CBS, Joe Biden's is now considering granting Gazans "a permanent safe haven here in the US."
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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I heard there are talks amongst the Biden administration of having them flown into and settled in Florida.
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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I heard there are talks amongst the Biden administration of having them flown into and settled in Florida.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:38 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:38 PM (+yhUM)
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"Biden said they’ll have to go through really tough screening before being allowed in."
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Any hint of conservatism and they'll be back in the sandbox before you can say Allahu Akbar!
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Any hint of conservatism and they'll be back in the sandbox before you can say Allahu Akbar!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 04:38 PM (L/fGl)
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69 Good. I want everyone to have to push a wheelbarrow around full of worthless dollars so I can point and laugh as they eat Raman noodles and drink warm water from the garden hose.
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (4a+k3)
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Oh, c'mon. Wheelbarrows are old-fashioned. Just move everything to an electronic version of the currency!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (HnUIn)
Indeed. My card is capable of holding lots of zeros.
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Mastermind On Viagra at May 01, 2024 04:36 PM (4a+k3)
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Oh, c'mon. Wheelbarrows are old-fashioned. Just move everything to an electronic version of the currency!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (HnUIn)
Indeed. My card is capable of holding lots of zeros.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:38 PM (ynpvh)
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"A plurality of voters (42%) said they were most in favor of a hypothetical policy to "secure our border and ports," while another 36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system."
LOL, as if we didn't already have them; lying unenforced for decades.
LOL, as if we didn't already have them; lying unenforced for decades.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 01, 2024 04:38 PM (tQtDb)
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You Losers can beg for scraps off of Long-shanks table and like it. You F**ked and voted for me !!!!!!!!!!!
Suckers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suckers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (BKOUD)
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It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I lost mine in January. I'm a technical writer, so looking in the tech industry. It is pretty brutal right now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I lost mine in January. I'm a technical writer, so looking in the tech industry. It is pretty brutal right now.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (PwgSL)
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Most of our GDP is idiots shuffling paper from one office to another. We used to have industries that made actual products. That's why the sanctioneers failed so badly vs Russia. Its hard to hurt a country with industry and raw materials by taking away a credit card.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Eh, sort of. Russia isn't an industrial powerhouse anymore, either.
The reason sanctions didn't work is because Russia's finance minister is both extremely smart and incredibly ballsy, and he laundered the Ruble through gold to defend the currency. It was a high-risk play, but it worked and Russia's inevitable victory in Ukraine can probably be laid at his feet. Putin will probably put him on a stamp or a coin. I would, if I were him.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Eh, sort of. Russia isn't an industrial powerhouse anymore, either.
The reason sanctions didn't work is because Russia's finance minister is both extremely smart and incredibly ballsy, and he laundered the Ruble through gold to defend the currency. It was a high-risk play, but it worked and Russia's inevitable victory in Ukraine can probably be laid at his feet. Putin will probably put him on a stamp or a coin. I would, if I were him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (FhXTo)
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I wouldn't doubt a depression if the Marxists win in November
All planned out to destroy the economy
All planned out to destroy the economy
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
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The common narrative has been, "high tech layoffs are over." That's been the line since Big Tech trimmed some fat last year.
It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)
Someone has to take the stand that if you want the safety, security, and access to US markets, you can dang well pay for it. I would charge companies the equivalent charge of the going US rate for every salary overseas or on a foreign visa. That's on top of normal tax rates and cannot be deducted from anything - it's a straight "fee for overseas" service...
We have to employ 90 IQ males (and now higher as higher IQ jobs are also sent overseas) or we get what we have - men becoming women, men becoming antifa, men becoming completely disconnected from society, etc...
It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)
Someone has to take the stand that if you want the safety, security, and access to US markets, you can dang well pay for it. I would charge companies the equivalent charge of the going US rate for every salary overseas or on a foreign visa. That's on top of normal tax rates and cannot be deducted from anything - it's a straight "fee for overseas" service...
We have to employ 90 IQ males (and now higher as higher IQ jobs are also sent overseas) or we get what we have - men becoming women, men becoming antifa, men becoming completely disconnected from society, etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:40 PM (exHjb)
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Argentinian government workers apparently don't have 1/100th of the protection that American government workers have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
I have written about this before. There are many things that Trump and aggressive cabinet officers can do to shrink government.
Make their lives miserable by cutting all travel, all work-at-home, all discretionary spending on parties and food and all the other shit.
Move everybody to the hinterlands.
That can be done the first week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)
I have written about this before. There are many things that Trump and aggressive cabinet officers can do to shrink government.
Make their lives miserable by cutting all travel, all work-at-home, all discretionary spending on parties and food and all the other shit.
Move everybody to the hinterlands.
That can be done the first week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 01, 2024 04:40 PM (d9fT1)
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Biden should certainly be criticized for runaway spending and opening the borders. But at the same time it should be noted that congressional Republicans are absolutely unwilling to do ONE DAMN THING about either of those problems.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 01, 2024 04:40 PM (woPEM)
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"I wouldn't doubt a depression if the Marxists win in November"
What is going on with the House and Senate races? We ain't gonna have any wheels with this clown show in power.
What is going on with the House and Senate races? We ain't gonna have any wheels with this clown show in power.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (Ectld)
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The most notable example of stagflation occurred in the 1970's, after an oil crisis.
Welcome Back Carter.
What does the 1970s stagflation have in common with today? That's right, Democrat president.
Welcome Back Carter.
What does the 1970s stagflation have in common with today? That's right, Democrat president.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (hF4JZ)
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Is there an official figure for something like a "hard" GDP, meaning excluding bullshit financial nonsense and shuffling funny money around? Actual wealth created from actual creation of goods and services?
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (+yhUM)
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Labor Participation Rate trended down from the 1990's and accelerated down under Obama. Under Trump that trend reversed and began to rise ... till PlanDemic. It was at 63.3 in Feb 2020.
In Jan 2021 it was at 61.3. March of this year it had recovered to 62.7, though hard (for me) to say how 10 million illegals are counted in those numbers. And inflation is now persistent in real essentials.
fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
In Jan 2021 it was at 61.3. March of this year it had recovered to 62.7, though hard (for me) to say how 10 million illegals are counted in those numbers. And inflation is now persistent in real essentials.
fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2024 04:42 PM (Cus5s)
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Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
I don't consider Google 'engineers' in the same sentence as US mfrng engineers.
Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
I don't consider Google 'engineers' in the same sentence as US mfrng engineers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 04:42 PM (IG4Id)
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I wouldn't doubt a depression if the Marxists win in November
All planned out to destroy the economy
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
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Quit worrying! A World War will fix all that.
All planned out to destroy the economy
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
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Quit worrying! A World War will fix all that.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:42 PM (nPSm+)
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According to "internal government documents" reviewed by CBS, Joe Biden's is now considering granting Gazans "a permanent safe haven here in the US."
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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No it wouldn't, they could move them out through this port for humanitarian aid, or out through Israel. Israel would jump at evacing Gaza, as would (secretly) most of the mideast. Even Iran, though they find them useful for causing disturbances, can't be happy at them being on the brink of war with the US rather than being mainstreamed as a contributor to BRICS.
This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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No it wouldn't, they could move them out through this port for humanitarian aid, or out through Israel. Israel would jump at evacing Gaza, as would (secretly) most of the mideast. Even Iran, though they find them useful for causing disturbances, can't be happy at them being on the brink of war with the US rather than being mainstreamed as a contributor to BRICS.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (JkCto)
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The Dems I know or see commenting on my local rag are absolutely convinced that Biden's economy is great. Anything contrary as you are quickly called fascist, or denier. I doubt they would wake up even if there was a major economic crash
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (JfVRc)
Posted by: Redenzo at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (V/pbu)
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If it makes anyone feel better, it isn't just us.
https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=57882
I expect a global recession / depression.
https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=57882
I expect a global recession / depression.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (CsUN+)
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89 Is there an official figure for something like a "hard" GDP, meaning excluding bullshit financial nonsense and shuffling funny money around? Actual wealth created from actual creation of goods and services?
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (+yhUM)
https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (+yhUM)
https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (ynpvh)
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hmm
who is really behind the campus intifada .."Hints of financial backing could be seen at the Columbia 'Gaza Solidarity Encampment', including students erecting several identical high-end tents costing hundreds of dollars each, and handing out free Dunkin' Donuts coffee, $12.50 sandwiches from Pret-a-Manger and $10 rotisserie chickens to participants."
who is really behind the campus intifada .."Hints of financial backing could be seen at the Columbia 'Gaza Solidarity Encampment', including students erecting several identical high-end tents costing hundreds of dollars each, and handing out free Dunkin' Donuts coffee, $12.50 sandwiches from Pret-a-Manger and $10 rotisserie chickens to participants."
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (V13WU)
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Don't think of it as a global recession so much as a reset.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Ectld)
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Is there an official figure for something like a "hard" GDP, meaning excluding bullshit financial nonsense and shuffling funny money around? Actual wealth created from actual creation of goods and services?
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (+yhUM)
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You could approximate it. Take GDP and multiply it by the amount of the economy in the industrial sector, but that is a pretty bad approach. Services have value, too, and shouldn't be written off just because they aren't involved in goods. Goods manufacturing doesn't happen without transportation (a service), banking (a service), education (a service), food (agriculture), etc.
The better way to handicap GDP to take the easy-to-spot fakery out is to adjust it for non-productive debt. That is hard to do in real-time, but the easiest thing to do is to just subtract public debt. That's easy to find and it is unproductive by definition.
So rather than getting caught up on industrial vs. agricultural vs. services, ask "did the economy grow if we subtract government debt increases?" The answer will probably not shock you.
I mean, if there is, it'll be fake. I'm just curious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 04:41 PM (+yhUM)
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You could approximate it. Take GDP and multiply it by the amount of the economy in the industrial sector, but that is a pretty bad approach. Services have value, too, and shouldn't be written off just because they aren't involved in goods. Goods manufacturing doesn't happen without transportation (a service), banking (a service), education (a service), food (agriculture), etc.
The better way to handicap GDP to take the easy-to-spot fakery out is to adjust it for non-productive debt. That is hard to do in real-time, but the easiest thing to do is to just subtract public debt. That's easy to find and it is unproductive by definition.
So rather than getting caught up on industrial vs. agricultural vs. services, ask "did the economy grow if we subtract government debt increases?" The answer will probably not shock you.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (HnUIn)
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>>> The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)
I can feel this in my bones brother. It sucks when "interesting times" don't align well with a whole life of plans. But we'll get through it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)
I can feel this in my bones brother. It sucks when "interesting times" don't align well with a whole life of plans. But we'll get through it.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Y6IkP)
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while another 36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system.
Pfft.
Sanctuary cities and most US campuses
Pfft.
Sanctuary cities and most US campuses
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (JkCto)
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Speaking of the pier in Gaza. Austin has authorized military personnel to return fire if they are fired upon.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (nOwFe)
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The economy has been contracting the last couple of years, I suspect. Only fed printing has created the illusion there's economic expansion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Joey Bidet, Crack SBD Pilot at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (c5/hU)
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The Dems I know or see commenting on my local rag are absolutely convinced that Biden's economy is great. Anything contrary as you are quickly called fascist, or denier. I doubt they would wake up even if there was a major economic crash
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (JfVRc)
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The first loyalty of an ideologue is to the Cause/Party.
Reality is a distant 3rd or 4th, or maybe not on the charts.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (JfVRc)
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The first loyalty of an ideologue is to the Cause/Party.
Reality is a distant 3rd or 4th, or maybe not on the charts.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (krQz2)
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92 I wouldn't doubt a depression if the Marxists win in November
All planned out to destroy the economy
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
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Quit worrying! A World War will fix all that.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:42 PM (nPSm+)
Yes, ignore the broken window fallacy.
Dead people = fewer empoyable
Broken world = ready-made jobs
All planned out to destroy the economy
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
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Quit worrying! A World War will fix all that.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:42 PM (nPSm+)
Yes, ignore the broken window fallacy.
Dead people = fewer empoyable
Broken world = ready-made jobs
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (ynpvh)
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Rotisserie Chickens !!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (V13WU)
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I really do not care about "Women's Reproductive Rights" !!!!!!!!! When does Wacking Kids in a Women's Womb help put food on my table or gas in my tank. Harris is a not even smart enough to be an idiot !!!!!!!
We need real leaders and not these Democrat Homo's running this country Now !!!!!!!!!!!!
We need real leaders and not these Democrat Homo's running this country Now !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: George Hamstead at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (1t11C)
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35 This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck
Did Mr. Kirk mention why Egypt doesn’t want them? Or any Arab nation?
Good heavens, this administration is going to destroy us.
Posted by: andycanuck
Did Mr. Kirk mention why Egypt doesn’t want them? Or any Arab nation?
Good heavens, this administration is going to destroy us.
Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I can feel this in my bones brother. It sucks when "interesting times" don't align well with a whole life of plans. But we'll get through it.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Y6IkP)
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I've been planning for it for a long time now. I've seen it coming. I will be okay.
But this chapter will be closed very firmly. It may be the closing of a book and the starting of a new one.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Y6IkP)
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I've been planning for it for a long time now. I've seen it coming. I will be okay.
But this chapter will be closed very firmly. It may be the closing of a book and the starting of a new one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)
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This is happening to friends of mine who are engineers and are making over 170,000 they are being replaced with cheaper international labor.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM
I was making $108k (with health insurance, 401(k) and profit sharing). I was able to get back into my old position via a US contract employee position. New salary is $83k. Which is the high end for contract for my old position. I think the low end that those in India and Mexico are making is around $50k-$65k.
So with me, they are saving $25k per year plus not paying for my health insurance or 401(k) or giving profit sharing (and I was one of highest producers in department, so was getting good profit sharing checks each year).
For those who are not coming back and the company replaces with people in India, they are saving $40k-$50k salary plus no benefits payout.
That said, the India and Mexico engineers are extremely inefficient and inferior. So company is getting what they pay for.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 01, 2024 04:33 PM
I was making $108k (with health insurance, 401(k) and profit sharing). I was able to get back into my old position via a US contract employee position. New salary is $83k. Which is the high end for contract for my old position. I think the low end that those in India and Mexico are making is around $50k-$65k.
So with me, they are saving $25k per year plus not paying for my health insurance or 401(k) or giving profit sharing (and I was one of highest producers in department, so was getting good profit sharing checks each year).
For those who are not coming back and the company replaces with people in India, they are saving $40k-$50k salary plus no benefits payout.
That said, the India and Mexico engineers are extremely inefficient and inferior. So company is getting what they pay for.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (P5BPp)
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This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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Not with that fancy new seaport we're building.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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Not with that fancy new seaport we're building.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)
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Old Joe ain't lookin' so good lately... Having a harder time stringing sentences together... I could see him being replaced before the election and not with Mamala
Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (Akjoo)
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Everybody, let's have a stagflation party.
Puts an lp on the turntable, Lawrence Welk.
Puts an lp on the turntable, Lawrence Welk.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (J8LnB)
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Laugh at those who lost jobs at Google all you want. This will come for everyone. "First they came..." and all that. Came for me in March. And 399 of my engineering colleagues. And more will be coming throughout this year and next.
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So very sorry to hear you were laid off. If it's any comfort, young college grads are getting hit hard too, which is unusual. Normally they go after the expensive older folks hard, and the younger ones are safe.
My son has a group of friends graduating from B School this year, and only one person they know of in the group has a job. Another young guy I know was going to work at Bain but they actually rescinded his offer and, so far as he knows, rescinded all the offers for the entire incoming class of hires.
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So very sorry to hear you were laid off. If it's any comfort, young college grads are getting hit hard too, which is unusual. Normally they go after the expensive older folks hard, and the younger ones are safe.
My son has a group of friends graduating from B School this year, and only one person they know of in the group has a job. Another young guy I know was going to work at Bain but they actually rescinded his offer and, so far as he knows, rescinded all the offers for the entire incoming class of hires.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (nPSm+)
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99 hmm
who is really behind the campus intifada .."Hints of financial backing could be seen at the Columbia 'Gaza Solidarity Encampment', including students erecting several identical high-end tents costing hundreds of dollars each, and handing out free Dunkin' Donuts coffee, $12.50 sandwiches from Pret-a-Manger and $10 rotisserie chickens to participants."
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (V13WU)
Why not confiscate the stuff and give it to the homeless?
who is really behind the campus intifada .."Hints of financial backing could be seen at the Columbia 'Gaza Solidarity Encampment', including students erecting several identical high-end tents costing hundreds of dollars each, and handing out free Dunkin' Donuts coffee, $12.50 sandwiches from Pret-a-Manger and $10 rotisserie chickens to participants."
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 04:44 PM (V13WU)
Why not confiscate the stuff and give it to the homeless?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (ynpvh)
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To be fair, Carter wanted Bp. Abel Muzorewa not
Mugabe. Still his fault, though.
Mugabe. Still his fault, though.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (RIvkX)
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... Another young guy I know was going to work at Bain but they actually rescinded his offer and, so far as he knows, rescinded all the offers for the entire incoming class of hires.
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (nPSm+)
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Ouch. Rescinded offers *suck*
Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 01, 2024 04:47 PM (nPSm+)
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Ouch. Rescinded offers *suck*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (HnUIn)
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If it makes anyone feel better, it isn't just us.
https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=57882
I expect a global recession / depression.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (CsUN+)
Mises way back in the past stated that command economies have problems since they can't know the value of a commodity or produced item since that requires a free market. Of course, our economy looks more and more like Chinas each year.
https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=57882
I expect a global recession / depression.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:43 PM (CsUN+)
Mises way back in the past stated that command economies have problems since they can't know the value of a commodity or produced item since that requires a free market. Of course, our economy looks more and more like Chinas each year.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
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Old Joe ain't lookin' so good lately... Having a harder time stringing sentences together... I could see him being replaced before the election and not with Mamala
Where have you gone Bob Torricelli, a party turns its lonely eyes to you....
Where have you gone Bob Torricelli, a party turns its lonely eyes to you....
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (CsUN+)
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Stinking Krugman sock removal
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:49 PM (nPSm+)
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I was thinking that this election had a lot of similarities to the Carter-Reagan election.
The economy sucks.
Hamas, Iranian proxy, holding hostages.
Energy prices sky high.
Reagan, former actor, Morning in America, optimistic take.
Trump is no Reagan but Biden is even worse than Carter so fingers crossed he is able to a chieve the same kindof victory.
The economy sucks.
Hamas, Iranian proxy, holding hostages.
Energy prices sky high.
Reagan, former actor, Morning in America, optimistic take.
Trump is no Reagan but Biden is even worse than Carter so fingers crossed he is able to a chieve the same kindof victory.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 01, 2024 04:49 PM (t/2Uw)
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122 Old Joe ain't lookin' so good lately... Having a harder time stringing sentences together... I could see him being replaced before the election and not with Mamala
Where have you gone Bob Torricelli, a party turns its lonely eyes to you....
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (CsUN+)
Mamala knows how to take it on the chin...
Where have you gone Bob Torricelli, a party turns its lonely eyes to you....
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (CsUN+)
Mamala knows how to take it on the chin...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:49 PM (ynpvh)
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Mises way back in the past stated that command economies have problems since they can't know the value of a commodity or produced item since that requires a free market. Of course, our economy looks more and more like Chinas each year.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
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"The Socialist Calculation Problem."
But we still have price discovery in much of the market. The key area of price controls is interest rates, and that is extremely dangerous because so much is downstream from that and so it can distort everything.
The problem we - and most of the rest of the world - are facing is much more the debt cliff than it is a market clearing problem.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
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"The Socialist Calculation Problem."
But we still have price discovery in much of the market. The key area of price controls is interest rates, and that is extremely dangerous because so much is downstream from that and so it can distort everything.
The problem we - and most of the rest of the world - are facing is much more the debt cliff than it is a market clearing problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:50 PM (HnUIn)
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I always took Rush's advice and when there is an economic downturn I refuse to participate.
I spend less and less as I don't want anything outside of food, booze, guns, ammo and loose wimmen for hire.
The rest of my money I stick in the mattress where I know it's safe and makes good kindling.
Hope the economy implodes.
I spend less and less as I don't want anything outside of food, booze, guns, ammo and loose wimmen for hire.
The rest of my money I stick in the mattress where I know it's safe and makes good kindling.
Hope the economy implodes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 01, 2024 04:50 PM (4a+k3)
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I am rested and ready to take Joe's place. I can orally stimulate the Country and Economy very easily. So if Joe were to expire I am here to F**K things up even more ....
Posted by: VP Harris at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (hbjSA)
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Yeah those four employees we had doing tech support were too expensive, even thoughthey were making burger flipping wages. And the first overseas group was too expensive so we got another cheaper group a month later. The original group lived in the area and could actually be customers. Not the replacements.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (yeEu9)
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Jimmy Carter and Andrew Young, how hated these two were, by White people in South Africa. Easy to give Blacks the vote in the USA, they were/are a minority. In South Africa it was a suicidal step as the Whites immediately lost all power.
Posted by: Ciampino - unpalatable food? at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (qfLjt)
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Hope the economy implodes.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (CsUN+)
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Robert Mueller's Right Hand Man Warns SCOTUS: You're "One Vote Away From... The End Of My Career”
Posted by: SMOD at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (RHGPo)
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That said, the India and Mexico engineers are extremely inefficient and inferior. So company is getting what they pay for.
They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
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It isn't over. It has just begun. High tech is going to get skull-fucked. When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM
This is why I jumped at the chance to get back in to my old position through a lower salary contract position. I was unemployed previously from January 2009 to December 2010. Worst years of my life, age 33-34. I remember how much of a struggle it was back then and that was before DEI. Now as a 48-year old white male, I know the odds are stacked against me. Especially if I am not on board the "climate change" and "electrification" agendas.
Thankfully, I still have friends in influential places at my old department -- and I am a very good engineer they want back -- and was able to take advantage to not be unemployed for long. But, we'll see how long it lasts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM
This is why I jumped at the chance to get back in to my old position through a lower salary contract position. I was unemployed previously from January 2009 to December 2010. Worst years of my life, age 33-34. I remember how much of a struggle it was back then and that was before DEI. Now as a 48-year old white male, I know the odds are stacked against me. Especially if I am not on board the "climate change" and "electrification" agendas.
Thankfully, I still have friends in influential places at my old department -- and I am a very good engineer they want back -- and was able to take advantage to not be unemployed for long. But, we'll see how long it lasts.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (P5BPp)
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Those calling for "let it burn", this is the result. Real Americans and families affected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
We could have stopped this earlier.
But no. So many excuses.
It's going to burn. That was never a question. The only question was if you were going to hold something for after or just waste it all stopping the inevitable, given nobody was willing to stop it when it could have been.
We are where we are.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
We could have stopped this earlier.
But no. So many excuses.
It's going to burn. That was never a question. The only question was if you were going to hold something for after or just waste it all stopping the inevitable, given nobody was willing to stop it when it could have been.
We are where we are.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (OUMaO)
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You can't grow an economy by giving more free stuff, so they can keep shopping at WalMart and Amazon, especially as inflation and interest rates rise.
A related aside. Coulter and ? someone were talking about some medical procedure a doctor wanted but could not get right away. He said "if this guy was on Medicaid, he could get it immediately".
Yes ...Medicaid (including for illegals) has better health care than ... Medicare and whatever this poor bloke had. But I suppose inner city hospitals are happy with that free money.
A related aside. Coulter and ? someone were talking about some medical procedure a doctor wanted but could not get right away. He said "if this guy was on Medicaid, he could get it immediately".
Yes ...Medicaid (including for illegals) has better health care than ... Medicare and whatever this poor bloke had. But I suppose inner city hospitals are happy with that free money.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (Cus5s)
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For those who are not coming back and the company replaces with people in India, they are saving $40k-$50k salary plus no benefits payout.
That said, the India and Mexico engineers are extremely inefficient and inferior. So company is getting what they pay for.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (P5BPp)
Yup. Also good is that the Indian ones are time shifted virtually the entire day. And most are working other jobs on the side. The Mexican ones might be US people bolting over the border for lower costs.
That said, the India and Mexico engineers are extremely inefficient and inferior. So company is getting what they pay for.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (P5BPp)
Yup. Also good is that the Indian ones are time shifted virtually the entire day. And most are working other jobs on the side. The Mexican ones might be US people bolting over the border for lower costs.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (eoQWY)
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Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (CsUN+)
Nope...none of the above.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (CsUN+)
Nope...none of the above.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (4a+k3)
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Yes, homeowners insurance is way up. But so is the cost (not value) of your house.
You will own nothing and be happy. Moose shoulda told you at the threshold of our fresh Hell.
You will own nothing and be happy. Moose shoulda told you at the threshold of our fresh Hell.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (wBaIH)
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We have basically pulled forward trillions of dollars of economic growth by borrowing from the future, but that must be repaid at some point.
lol
lmao
lol
lmao
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (DTX3h)
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Just remember, it wasn't long ago that companies and workers were proudly posting the bonuses they were giving and receiving around the holidays.
Whoever was president during that time, we should bring him back.
Whoever was president during that time, we should bring him back.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (KbCG3)
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Starveflation FTW!
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (TgVp6)
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When I lose my job soon, I fully expect it to take a year to find another one. The next one won't pay as well (for various reasons, not just because of the coming/nascent tech recession). I've peaked. Is what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Oh shit. Another layoff victim. I am so sorry. Fucking Biden Junta.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Oh shit. Another layoff victim. I am so sorry. Fucking Biden Junta.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (nPSm+)
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131 Hope the economy implodes.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024
I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024
I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (ZdaMQ)
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We have basically pulled forward trillions of dollars of economic growth by borrowing from the future, but that must be repaid at some point.
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That's what structural collapse is for.
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That's what structural collapse is for.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (krQz2)
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But Biden inherited inflation from Trump, and he's working on bringing it down. That's what he said. Word as a Biden.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (1bNHn)
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Yeah those four employees we had doing tech support were too expensive, even thoughthey were making burger flipping wages. And the first overseas group was too expensive so we got another cheaper group a month later. The original group lived in the area and could actually be customers. Not the replacements.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (yeEu9)
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The race to the bottom on offshoring has been interesting to watch from the inside. Quality suffers when you dredge the bottom of the barrel. Saving money by re-offshoring from India to Egypt or Indonesia isn't actually a net savings.
This is why the MBA types have created the "new" concept of "nearshoring." Don't pull things back home - that would be absurd and unthinkable - but pull things out of the dregs and move them closer to home where scheduling is easier and skills are easier to find. Costa Rica and Mexico are big beneficiaries of "nearshoring."
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (yeEu9)
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The race to the bottom on offshoring has been interesting to watch from the inside. Quality suffers when you dredge the bottom of the barrel. Saving money by re-offshoring from India to Egypt or Indonesia isn't actually a net savings.
This is why the MBA types have created the "new" concept of "nearshoring." Don't pull things back home - that would be absurd and unthinkable - but pull things out of the dregs and move them closer to home where scheduling is easier and skills are easier to find. Costa Rica and Mexico are big beneficiaries of "nearshoring."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (HnUIn)
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Neighbors got their heating oil topped off this morning. $5.15 per gallon.
Posted by: Rex B at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (jydPj)
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I joined the Army in 1975 because I could not find any kind of decent job in Akron, OH. Spent 22 years on active duty with the Army then the Navy.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (QNSds)
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The plan was to goose the economy in 2021 & 2022 so it would hit in 2024. Add in CHIP Act too.
Problem was, which Joe didn't learn from 2008: there are no shovel ready jobs. Regs and other BS means at LEAST 2-3 years just to get approval if you're lucky.
Problem was, which Joe didn't learn from 2008: there are no shovel ready jobs. Regs and other BS means at LEAST 2-3 years just to get approval if you're lucky.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (JkCto)
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I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
If so, he's not good at his job.
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
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Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes
Get it done now, and they may yet see a decent tomorrow.
Keep prolonging the problem and we'll be lucky if there's anything worthwhile for their grandkids. If they have any.
Posted by: Archimedes
Get it done now, and they may yet see a decent tomorrow.
Keep prolonging the problem and we'll be lucky if there's anything worthwhile for their grandkids. If they have any.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (OUMaO)
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Yes, homeowners insurance is way up. But so is the cost (not value) of your house.
You will own nothing and be happy. Moose shoulda told you at the threshold of our fresh Hell.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (wBaIH)
Problem with this theory is if we own nothing how will these companies manage to sell us things to keep going?
You will own nothing and be happy. Moose shoulda told you at the threshold of our fresh Hell.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (wBaIH)
Problem with this theory is if we own nothing how will these companies manage to sell us things to keep going?
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (eoQWY)
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>>No problem for Biden! He'll just pivot to immigration.
Wray, you're a fkng loser! I can't wait any longer for you to start Operation Islamophobia! But now you need to blow-up four packed-full mosques in Michigan on Day 1! Three won't do it now! Get off your ass!
Wray, you're a fkng loser! I can't wait any longer for you to start Operation Islamophobia! But now you need to blow-up four packed-full mosques in Michigan on Day 1! Three won't do it now! Get off your ass!
Posted by: Joe B. at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (5fDan)
155
I still expect a switch at the Democrats convention, and Harris being dumped
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (fwDg9)
156
Oh shit. Another layoff victim. I am so sorry. Fucking Biden Junta.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (nPSm+)
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Not yet, and my situation is largely independent of the current political dynamic.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:53 PM (nPSm+)
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Not yet, and my situation is largely independent of the current political dynamic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (HnUIn)
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I wonder if Mommy and Daddy are going to be happy when Jihad Son returns home to move into the basement because they got kicked out of college and now have to work at Subway Subs. Great investment ......... Over $100 K down thee ole Shitter ..........................
Tattoo a big "L" on your Heads Useful idiots .....
Tattoo a big "L" on your Heads Useful idiots .....
Posted by: Ferd Berfal at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (Mig/N)
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Get it done now, and they may yet see a decent tomorrow.
Keep prolonging the problem and we'll be lucky if there's anything worthwhile for their grandkids. If they have any.
Agreed, but we don't need to gloat about the damage that will be done.
Keep prolonging the problem and we'll be lucky if there's anything worthwhile for their grandkids. If they have any.
Agreed, but we don't need to gloat about the damage that will be done.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (CsUN+)
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"The U.S. economy is showing signs of stagflation as growth slumps down and prices continue to surge for average Americans, experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation."
Pro tip: There hasn't been any real growth in the last three or four quarters in the US economy. All of those *growth* numbers being reported are driven by deficit spending. Sooner or later we are going to pay the price for that and it's probably going to be soon. 10-15% inflation here we come.
Pro tip: There hasn't been any real growth in the last three or four quarters in the US economy. All of those *growth* numbers being reported are driven by deficit spending. Sooner or later we are going to pay the price for that and it's probably going to be soon. 10-15% inflation here we come.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (QNSds)
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President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
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Problem with this theory is if we own nothing how will these companies manage to sell us things to keep going?
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (eoQWY)
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Long-term leasing and rental agreements.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (eoQWY)
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Long-term leasing and rental agreements.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (HnUIn)
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Robert Mueller's Right Hand Man, Andrew Weissmann, Warns SCOTUS: You're "One Vote Away From... The End Of My Career”
… and the crumbling of his lawfare strategy
… and the crumbling of his lawfare strategy
Posted by: SMOD at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (RHGPo)
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146 But Biden inherited inflation from Trump, and he's working on bringing it down. That's what he said. Word as a Biden.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (1bNHn)
So the story about his uncle was just to prep us for our future food option?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (1bNHn)
So the story about his uncle was just to prep us for our future food option?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (ynpvh)
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151 I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024
Potentially Sid’s alter ego. 😂
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024
Potentially Sid’s alter ego. 😂
Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Does anybody remember Carter Country?
https://youtu.be/QZf5Odx5dgI
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (63Dwl)
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Yes, I was fascinated by that show and no idea what was going on. It was like Dukes of Hazzard but no Catherine Bach or car chases
https://youtu.be/QZf5Odx5dgI
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 01, 2024 04:37 PM (63Dwl)
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Yes, I was fascinated by that show and no idea what was going on. It was like Dukes of Hazzard but no Catherine Bach or car chases
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)
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But guys Biden forced airlines to stop junk fees. You’re such ungrateful rubes!
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (Y6Wgg)
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But guys Biden forced airlines to stop junk fees. You’re such ungrateful rubes!
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Maybe that aviation wizard can do something about planes falling out of the sky.
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Maybe that aviation wizard can do something about planes falling out of the sky.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (HnUIn)
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114 This would require coordination with Egypt, which has refused Gaza refugees to resettle there.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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Not with that fancy new seaport we're building.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)
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Should we call it "a Mulberry"?
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (vtyCZ)
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Not with that fancy new seaport we're building.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)
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Should we call it "a Mulberry"?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (1bNHn)
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Mises way back in the past stated that command economies have problems since they can't know the value of a commodity or produced item since that requires a free market. Of course, our economy looks more and more like Chinas each year.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
Ten years ago if I mentioned Mises anywhere I would be treated as if I were discussing specific artistic ethos in expressionism as demonstrated in Italian arts and crafts traditions.
Now UFC fighters are telling people to go read him.
Next step: You know what Lysander Spooner had to say about contract interpretation of the Constitution . . ?
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:48 PM (eoQWY)
Ten years ago if I mentioned Mises anywhere I would be treated as if I were discussing specific artistic ethos in expressionism as demonstrated in Italian arts and crafts traditions.
Now UFC fighters are telling people to go read him.
Next step: You know what Lysander Spooner had to say about contract interpretation of the Constitution . . ?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (D7oie)
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160 President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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A clear majority of US voters say that border security is the most important thing for Congress to work on with a little more than six months to go before next year's election.
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Because unlike all the current laws, The Junta and Deep State (BIRM) will surely abide by new worthless laws.
Why aren't R AGs arresting & imprisoning all those who willfully & overtly violate our immigration laws? /Yeah, I know ...
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Because unlike all the current laws, The Junta and Deep State (BIRM) will surely abide by new worthless laws.
Why aren't R AGs arresting & imprisoning all those who willfully & overtly violate our immigration laws? /Yeah, I know ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (TgVp6)
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McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (nPSm+)
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It is all the Unicorn policies that the elite idiots have been touting finally facing reality. EVs cannot replace gas fired engines. You can;t eliminate natural gas hookups and mandate expensive alternatives that don;t work. Transmania beginning to subside as more and more come to see that mutilating children doesn't make them better, actually makes their mental health worse. open borders doesnot make the economy better and these third word lowlifes take way more than they give. Supporting Ukraine and not demanding a ceasefire and negiotiations is bankrupting the West. Demanding a ceasefire in Gaza is causing more death and destruction and prolonging the war.
All this ridiculous stuff costing money that Western governments no longer have because they have made the country poorer.
The saying: Sooner or later you run out of OPM.
All this ridiculous stuff costing money that Western governments no longer have because they have made the country poorer.
The saying: Sooner or later you run out of OPM.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (t/2Uw)
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163 146 But Biden inherited inflation from Trump, and he's working on bringing it down. That's what he said. Word as a Biden.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (1bNHn)
So the story about his uncle was just to prep us for our future food option?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (ynpvh)
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Well, you said you didn't want bugs, so Soylent Green it is.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:54 PM (1bNHn)
So the story about his uncle was just to prep us for our future food option?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (ynpvh)
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Well, you said you didn't want bugs, so Soylent Green it is.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (1bNHn)
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58 When people get hungry for drugs, they’re dangerous. When they’re hungry for food, they’re lethal.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (Z1jJH)
I am SOOO stealing this! 😊♥️👍
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2024 04:35 PM (Z1jJH)
I am SOOO stealing this! 😊♥️👍
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (SRRAx)
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Next step: You know what Lysander Spooner had to say about contract interpretation of the Constitution . . ?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (D7oie)
It was kinda hard to understand since he kept mixing the syllables in the words.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (D7oie)
It was kinda hard to understand since he kept mixing the syllables in the words.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (eoQWY)
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Sid never gives up on a lie.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (woPEM)
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Neighbors got their heating oil topped off this morning. $5.15 per gallon.
Posted by: Rex B
I'm dreading our propane fill up. At least we're able to only have to do it once a year.
Posted by: Rex B
I'm dreading our propane fill up. At least we're able to only have to do it once a year.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (hF4JZ)
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Agreed, but we don't need to gloat about the damage that will be done.
The Big Short. Go to 1:00.
https://tinyurl.com/4fudyfwj
The Big Short. Go to 1:00.
https://tinyurl.com/4fudyfwj
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (CsUN+)
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They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM
Holy cow. That would definitely be infuriating. I probably would not have handled that very well. Can't imagine going through that. I guess I am glad we were blindsided by our layoffs and we were never asked to train the new people.
We just received company e-mail on Thursday stating that there will be a mandatory company-wide "work from home" day on Friday. Then we had a Teams meeting notice sent to some of us for Friday morning. Had about 25 people in it in addition to the department manager and 3 HR people. Informed us of the mass layoff and that was that. Turned off our account access by noon.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM
Holy cow. That would definitely be infuriating. I probably would not have handled that very well. Can't imagine going through that. I guess I am glad we were blindsided by our layoffs and we were never asked to train the new people.
We just received company e-mail on Thursday stating that there will be a mandatory company-wide "work from home" day on Friday. Then we had a Teams meeting notice sent to some of us for Friday morning. Had about 25 people in it in addition to the department manager and 3 HR people. Informed us of the mass layoff and that was that. Turned off our account access by noon.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (P5BPp)
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Between 2017 and 2020 illegal crossings plummeted. Then in 2021 they shot up. Weird how Trump didn’t need any new “border security bill” to keep the border secure. Somehow or other he did just fine with existing laws.
So weird huh Sid?
So weird huh Sid?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Yes, I was fascinated by that show and no idea what was going on. It was like Dukes of Hazzard but no Catherine Bach or car chases
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)
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sounds like they went in exactly the wrong direction.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)
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sounds like they went in exactly the wrong direction.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (nPSm+)
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Come on, HBG has been around longer than I have. Dude's not a glowie.
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (+yhUM)
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172 McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
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They're not pining; they're sliders!
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They're not pining; they're sliders!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (vtyCZ)
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167 But guys Biden forced airlines to stop junk fees. You’re such ungrateful rubes!
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Maybe that aviation wizard can do something about planes falling out of the sky.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (HnUIn)
Petey's working on it. Just as soon as he gets his tunnel cleared...
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Maybe that aviation wizard can do something about planes falling out of the sky.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 04:57 PM (HnUIn)
Petey's working on it. Just as soon as he gets his tunnel cleared...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM (ynpvh)
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170 160 President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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I have trouble keeping Surt, Kaul, and Pid - well, not straight, that'd be impossible, but in some sort of order.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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I have trouble keeping Surt, Kaul, and Pid - well, not straight, that'd be impossible, but in some sort of order.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:01 PM (1bNHn)
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>Problem with this theory is if we own nothing how will these companies manage to sell us things to keep going?
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (eoQWY)
Easy, barely an inconvenience. All goods and services will be tiered subscription based.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (eoQWY)
Easy, barely an inconvenience. All goods and services will be tiered subscription based.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 01, 2024 05:01 PM (NgqoH)
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I still expect a switch at the Democrats convention, and Harris being dumped
Posted by: Skip
It's too late, and they can't dump Harris without the black vote disappearing overnight. There's no savior in the party to capture the momentum. Navin Gruesome isn't it.
Posted by: Skip
It's too late, and they can't dump Harris without the black vote disappearing overnight. There's no savior in the party to capture the momentum. Navin Gruesome isn't it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 05:01 PM (IG4Id)
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The saying: Sooner or later you run out of OPM.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (t/2Uw)
Yeah, right.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (t/2Uw)
Yeah, right.
Posted by: Budget Deficits the Treasury is Forcing the FED to Monetize at May 01, 2024 05:01 PM (D7oie)
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131 Hope the economy implodes.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (CsUN+)
Amen - my kid graduates in 2025. I'd really rather she was graduating into a growing economy and not a collapsing one.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:51 PM (CsUN+)
Amen - my kid graduates in 2025. I'd really rather she was graduating into a growing economy and not a collapsing one.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 05:01 PM (exHjb)
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172 McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (nPSm+)
Quarterpounder Slider.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 04:59 PM (nPSm+)
Quarter
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh)
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BTW, if fat Alvin Bragg can try to Kangaroo Court convict Trump for some mysterious federal crime, R AGs should be doing the same.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (TgVp6)
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McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Single sliders.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Single sliders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (hF4JZ)
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Does anybody remember Carter Country?
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* raises hand *
I still remember the argument about bathing before or after bed. Which was quite amusing.
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* raises hand *
I still remember the argument about bathing before or after bed. Which was quite amusing.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (krQz2)
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I see Sid is harping about PDT coming out against that stupid border security bill.
Of course, lefties always ignore the minor fact PDT managed to do a decent job securing the border without, you know, another law.
Of course, lefties always ignore the minor fact PDT managed to do a decent job securing the border without, you know, another law.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (tT6L1)
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More like Stankflation
Posted by: Son of Dad at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (bGzYM)
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We just received company e-mail on Thursday stating that there will be a mandatory company-wide "work from home" day on Friday. Then we had a Teams meeting notice sent to some of us for Friday morning. Had about 25 people in it in addition to the department manager and 3 HR people. Informed us of the mass layoff and that was that. Turned off our account access by noon.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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That's pretty shitty.
(I'm now getting suspicious of my mandatory "employee appreciation lunch" invitation.)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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That's pretty shitty.
(I'm now getting suspicious of my mandatory "employee appreciation lunch" invitation.)
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (wQXfi)
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President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)
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52 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Jorge Bonilla
@BonillaJL
MSNBC's Alex Wagner frets that the campus protests at Columbia and elsewhere might lead to the next Reagan Era
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (L/fGl)
I was hoping for the next Washington, Joe McCarthy and Pinochet era.
Jorge Bonilla
@BonillaJL
MSNBC's Alex Wagner frets that the campus protests at Columbia and elsewhere might lead to the next Reagan Era
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (L/fGl)
I was hoping for the next Washington, Joe McCarthy and Pinochet era.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (x0n13)
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151 I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed
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If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed
.Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (exHjb)
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Don’t worry about the Palestinians coming here guys. Biden said they’ll have to go through really tough screening before being allowed in.
Why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (Y6Wgg)
Put all the pali "refugees" in Puerto Rico. All of them, every last m-effing one of them.
Why are you all laughing?
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:30 PM (Y6Wgg)
Put all the pali "refugees" in Puerto Rico. All of them, every last m-effing one of them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (8zz6B)
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Does anybody remember Carter Country?
I remember it as a thing, but I don't remember anything about it.
I remember it as a thing, but I don't remember anything about it.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (PwgSL)
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They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
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Reminds me of the movie Outsourced
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
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Reminds me of the movie Outsourced
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (DRSnL)
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192 BTW, if fat Alvin Bragg can try to Kangaroo Court convict Trump for some mysterious federal crime, R AGs should be doing the same.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (TgVp6)
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Exactly. And the fact they aren't doing so shows what side they're on.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (TgVp6)
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Exactly. And the fact they aren't doing so shows what side they're on.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (1bNHn)
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Hope the economy implodes.
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes
Yeah it sucks. Yeah it's gonna suck. But do we drag the suck out over 20 years, or get it over with?
Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
Posted by: Archimedes
Yeah it sucks. Yeah it's gonna suck. But do we drag the suck out over 20 years, or get it over with?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (hF4JZ)
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More like Stankflation
Posted by: Son of Dad at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (bGzYM)
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Somebody call my name?
Posted by: Son of Dad at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (bGzYM)
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Somebody call my name?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2)
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Come on, HBG has been around longer than I have. Dude's not a glowie.
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
No math, damnit!
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
No math, damnit!
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2024 05:05 PM (MsrgL)
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J.J. Pinochet should lead, followed by Washington then McCarthy. We need McCarthy at the end so we can loop back to Pinochet.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:05 PM (tT6L1)
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183 Come on, HBG has been around longer than I have. Dude's not a glowie.
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Wouldn’t be the first or the last time I am wrong, just not a fan of the racism stuff. You know me, I am a sensitive and sunshine-y soul.
Off to work out and teach my last class for the day. I hope everyone takes a deep breath and remembers we are strong, even when it’s all collapsing around us. Someone note this and remind me I said it when I go all dark and gloomy, please.
Just indulging in a little grousing and carping and bitching.
Which is like 93.4% of the utility of this place.
Along with 3.6% Mannix babes, 4.5% odd historical facts and 2.4% people checking your math.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Wouldn’t be the first or the last time I am wrong, just not a fan of the racism stuff. You know me, I am a sensitive and sunshine-y soul.
Off to work out and teach my last class for the day. I hope everyone takes a deep breath and remembers we are strong, even when it’s all collapsing around us. Someone note this and remind me I said it when I go all dark and gloomy, please.
Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (ZdaMQ)
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The Big Short. Go to 1:00.
https://tinyurl.com/4fudyfwj
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM
One of my favorite scenes in the movie. It's easy for people to talk about wanting this or that when it does not affect them or anyone they love at all. When it's just some generic idea they are talking about.
It's why I have always hated when people rejoiced at the news of this company or that company failing or this organization or that organization taken over by Marxist left and failing. It's why I have tuned out Nerdrotic and FNT crew lately as they rejoice over the destruction of Hollywood and Disney and everything else. There is absolutely nothing to be happy about the left destroying every last piece of American culture and greatness.
https://tinyurl.com/4fudyfwj
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 05:00 PM
One of my favorite scenes in the movie. It's easy for people to talk about wanting this or that when it does not affect them or anyone they love at all. When it's just some generic idea they are talking about.
It's why I have always hated when people rejoiced at the news of this company or that company failing or this organization or that organization taken over by Marxist left and failing. It's why I have tuned out Nerdrotic and FNT crew lately as they rejoice over the destruction of Hollywood and Disney and everything else. There is absolutely nothing to be happy about the left destroying every last piece of American culture and greatness.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (P5BPp)
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ard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
We are at #4
We are at #4
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (yeEu9)
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Every year, on this date, my father recited
Hooray! Hooray!
The First of May!
Outdoor f**king starts today!
Hooray! Hooray!
The First of May!
Outdoor f**king starts today!
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (1bNHn)
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I think a lot of people are suffering malaise, or as I like to call it Fuctard Fatigue.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (pohLc)
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Sundowner administration has flown in hundreds of thousands of illegals, be is leading a invasion.
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (fwDg9)
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(I'm now getting suspicious of my mandatory "employee appreciation lunch" invitation.)
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (wQXfi)
One place I worked had a employee bowling night in celebration of some sort of regional "goal" and every employee that was on light duty due to a back injury who bowled that night was put back on standard duty.
This is why I have always loved and trusted management.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (wQXfi)
One place I worked had a employee bowling night in celebration of some sort of regional "goal" and every employee that was on light duty due to a back injury who bowled that night was put back on standard duty.
This is why I have always loved and trusted management.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (D7oie)
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Okay, so it cut off the h in hard. Copy and paste is not easy on a phone
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (yeEu9)
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208 J.J. Pinochet should lead, followed by Washington then McCarthy. We need McCarthy at the end so we can loop back to Pinochet.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:05 PM (tT6L1)
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You forgot to mention Sulla.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:05 PM (tT6L1)
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You forgot to mention Sulla.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (1bNHn)
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McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Single sliders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM
Arby's used to do some serious ham sliders. Cheap and very tasty. They quit doing them because ham prices exploded.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Single sliders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM
Arby's used to do some serious ham sliders. Cheap and very tasty. They quit doing them because ham prices exploded.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (QNSds)
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Quarter pounder Slider.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh)
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Big Mini Mac.
With a Verne Troyer #DeepFake promotional tie-in.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh)
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With a Verne Troyer #DeepFake promotional tie-in.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (TgVp6)
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>>> Welcome Back Carter.
If you missed him check in your rear view mirror.
It's gonna look like the good old days soon enough.
If you missed him check in your rear view mirror.
It's gonna look like the good old days soon enough.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (cOq4q)
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Want to hear a real kicker? Del Toro, SECNAV said, a month or so ago that they wanted to start bringing in immigrants to build our ships. So even for defense, you are not safe. Ask the Roman's how that went.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (Y6IkP)
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"President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused."
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I expect more from our troll than this.
This is,,, limp.
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I expect more from our troll than this.
This is,,, limp.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (RIvkX)
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I was hoping for the next Washington, Joe McCarthy and Pinochet era.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (x0n13)
I was thinking more like Sulla or Marius
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (x0n13)
I was thinking more like Sulla or Marius
Posted by: Beartooth at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (XT+5H)
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You know what else came along as we were trying to get past Carter's shitty economy? The SC Plyler decision that forced accommodations for illegals. Those accommodations included enrolling their kids in public school and providing medical care in public hospitals for all of them. That was when the borders were first breeched.
I was in my mid 20s framing houses and that wiped us white boys out of that trade in Texas.
I was in my mid 20s framing houses and that wiped us white boys out of that trade in Texas.
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (8uzBS)
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99% of Congress and DC want borders open even more. But sure, they’ll let voters decide just like they let us decide how trillions of dollars are spent every year.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2024 05:09 PM (JTwsP)
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203 They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand
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Hat pins, tacks, gum, sprinkles
Posted by: Halfhand
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Hat pins, tacks, gum, sprinkles
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:09 PM (lCWOD)
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Yes, leasing. Indentured servitude. That's what skilled slaves from Europe were back in the day.
I for one, welcome the new Feudal Era.
I for one, welcome the new Feudal Era.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2024 05:09 PM (wBaIH)
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More like Stankflation
Posted by: Son of Dad at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (bGzYM)
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Somebody call my name?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2)
That would be 'Skankflation'.
Posted by: Son of Dad at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (bGzYM)
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Somebody call my name?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2024 05:04 PM (krQz2)
That would be 'Skankflation'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:09 PM (75/Pp)
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Damn, this is depressing.
BBL
BBL
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 01, 2024 05:09 PM (t/2Uw)
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Over at Twitchy:
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Columbia Prof Says Faculty Didn’t Approve of Police on Campus
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
Or do they believe it should be controlled by The State?
How dumb to be so educated and so clueless about what you believe!
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Columbia Prof Says Faculty Didn’t Approve of Police on Campus
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
Or do they believe it should be controlled by The State?
How dumb to be so educated and so clueless about what you believe!
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:10 PM (krQz2)
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I still expect a switch at the Democrats convention, and Harris being dumped
Posted by: Skip
_________________
The Democrat convention is gonna be lit. I suspect it'll be an epic food fight both inside the convention, and outside.
Recreate '68 indeed.
Posted by: Skip
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The Democrat convention is gonna be lit. I suspect it'll be an epic food fight both inside the convention, and outside.
Recreate '68 indeed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2024 05:10 PM (YqDXo)
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It's why I have tuned out Nerdrotic and FNT crew lately as they rejoice over the destruction of Hollywood and Disney and everything else. There is absolutely nothing to be happy about the left destroying every last piece of American culture and greatness.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (P5BPp)
Disney and the corporations didn't build our culture and they can't control our culture. Even given 100 years of savings and good feelings the leftists have gone bankrupt. American greatness is in the people. Those people are still out there, and they will find ways to thrive. As Nerdrotic and FNT did themselves.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:06 PM (P5BPp)
Disney and the corporations didn't build our culture and they can't control our culture. Even given 100 years of savings and good feelings the leftists have gone bankrupt. American greatness is in the people. Those people are still out there, and they will find ways to thrive. As Nerdrotic and FNT did themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:10 PM (eoQWY)
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I was born right at the tail end of the Carter mess.
My sister was born right in the middle of it.
They got along just fine. We got along just fine. Sure, some things had to be worked around, some bitter pills had to be taken, some asshole ingrate kids had to be told to quit whining once in a while and just eat what there is for dinner...
I really don't forsee outright disaster. I can see a few years of belt tightening, of having to be clever and lucky to get by, of some doing better than others... but I don't really see colander facemask any time soon. In fact, I think we'll rebound rather astoundingly quickly. Look at the beginning of Trump's first term. "What magic wand do you have?" Uhhh... just take your boot of the economy's neck, stop fucking about in other people's back yards, and let America be America. We were going gangbusters in under a year. Like a drowning person finally getting to the surface and gulping at the air.
All is not lost. It just never had to be this crappy.
My sister was born right in the middle of it.
They got along just fine. We got along just fine. Sure, some things had to be worked around, some bitter pills had to be taken, some asshole ingrate kids had to be told to quit whining once in a while and just eat what there is for dinner...
I really don't forsee outright disaster. I can see a few years of belt tightening, of having to be clever and lucky to get by, of some doing better than others... but I don't really see colander facemask any time soon. In fact, I think we'll rebound rather astoundingly quickly. Look at the beginning of Trump's first term. "What magic wand do you have?" Uhhh... just take your boot of the economy's neck, stop fucking about in other people's back yards, and let America be America. We were going gangbusters in under a year. Like a drowning person finally getting to the surface and gulping at the air.
All is not lost. It just never had to be this crappy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 05:10 PM (+yhUM)
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Do you have a family? Young kids? No matter how virtuous you are, they are the ones who get reamed. There is nothing good about this.
True.
I don't like it. But it does seem necessary.
This country is in denial about its economy and the government's budget. Unless things fall apart, that can't get fixed. And until it is fixed, we are living on borrowed time.
Also, it might be clarifying for people in the suburbs to have real problems to negotiate. A lot of what ails this country is essentially a secularized great awakening, in which bored, jaded suburbanites are chasing a variety of imaginary devils.
True.
I don't like it. But it does seem necessary.
This country is in denial about its economy and the government's budget. Unless things fall apart, that can't get fixed. And until it is fixed, we are living on borrowed time.
Also, it might be clarifying for people in the suburbs to have real problems to negotiate. A lot of what ails this country is essentially a secularized great awakening, in which bored, jaded suburbanites are chasing a variety of imaginary devils.
Posted by: The Country Needs a Hard Reboot at May 01, 2024 05:11 PM (BMwF7)
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 05:11 PM (7XQ/q)
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It's going to burn. That was never a question. The only question was if you were going to hold something for after or just waste it all stopping the inevitable, given nobody was willing to stop it when it could have been.
We are where we are.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM
Yep, I get it. But as noted earlier, no one has to rejoice or celebrate this as if it is a good thing.
It's like celebrating taking someone off of life support. Yes, there's nothing more we can do to save their life, and for those who believe in it, they are going to a better place. But you still don't celebrate the situation.
We are where we are.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM
Yep, I get it. But as noted earlier, no one has to rejoice or celebrate this as if it is a good thing.
It's like celebrating taking someone off of life support. Yes, there's nothing more we can do to save their life, and for those who believe in it, they are going to a better place. But you still don't celebrate the situation.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:11 PM (P5BPp)
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Remember those very small cans of beer you used to be able to buy? We called them "grenades" in high school. Anyway, I bet they make a comeback. Everything gets smaller when people's home budgets go to shit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 05:11 PM (QnUpo)
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Quarter pounder Slider.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh)
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Big Mini Mac.
With a Verne Troyer #DeepFake promotional tie-in.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (TgVp6)
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All because of corporate greed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ynpvh)
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Big Mini Mac.
With a Verne Troyer #DeepFake promotional tie-in.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:08 PM (TgVp6)
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All because of corporate greed.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:11 PM (krQz2)
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Columbia Prof Says Faculty Didn’t Approve of Police on Campus
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
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This begs the question: why do they think they have any say with respect to the police?
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
_______________
This begs the question: why do they think they have any say with respect to the police?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (YqDXo)
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151 I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed.
Posted by: Nova Local
HBG is on the other list now? and, people wonder why so many nics are "missing".
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed.
Posted by: Nova Local
HBG is on the other list now? and, people wonder why so many nics are "missing".
Posted by: old chick at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (F3Dlr)
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Make their lives miserable by cutting all travel, all work-at-home, all discretionary spending on parties and food and all the other shit.
Move everybody to the hinterlands.
That can be done the first week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 01, 2024 04:40 PM (d9fT1)
Set up Potemkin companies to offer them high-paying jobs in the private sector, and then let the companies go bankrupt after a month or two.
Move everybody to the hinterlands.
That can be done the first week.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 01, 2024 04:40 PM (d9fT1)
Set up Potemkin companies to offer them high-paying jobs in the private sector, and then let the companies go bankrupt after a month or two.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (8zz6B)
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One layoff that I went through, they accidentally turned off the key cards at 6 am instead of pm. Got a frantic call by team members that couldn't get in for work.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (yeEu9)
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Every year, on this date, my father recited
Hooray! Hooray!
The First of May!
Outdoor f**king starts today!
Posted by: Eeyore
I think he stole that from Lord Byron.
Hooray! Hooray!
The First of May!
Outdoor f**king starts today!
Posted by: Eeyore
I think he stole that from Lord Byron.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (L/fGl)
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Biden would close the border if the Republicans would just grant him the power.
Posted by: NPR and the Motherforking Media at May 01, 2024 05:13 PM (aD39U)
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I was thinking more like Sulla or Marius
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Trump's polling were bloody drills and his drills were bloody polling!
Something like that anyway.
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Trump's polling were bloody drills and his drills were bloody polling!
Something like that anyway.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 05:13 PM (vtyCZ)
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another 36% said they most wanted to establish "clear and predictable rules and laws for our immigration system.
What's happening now is clear and predictable.
What's happening now is clear and predictable.
Posted by: 36% Deserve What's Gonna Happen to Them at May 01, 2024 05:13 PM (BMwF7)
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Most scumbags don’t approve of police presence, so I’m not surprised the faculty at Columbia don’t.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (JTwsP)
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I think he stole that from Lord Byron.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (L/fGl)
Probably not my guess of St Augustine.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (L/fGl)
Probably not my guess of St Augustine.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (75/Pp)
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You forgot to mention Sulla.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (1bNHn)
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No love for Suharto?
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (1bNHn)
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No love for Suharto?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (L/fGl)
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218 Arby's used to do some serious ham sliders. Cheap and very tasty. They quit doing them because ham prices exploded.
the turkey slider was also quite good.
however, arby's was always a bit pricey (though not for the sliders). here in the land of $20 minimum wage, the price of the reuben has gone plaid at $15 up from the ludicrous $12 it used to be.
the turkey slider was also quite good.
however, arby's was always a bit pricey (though not for the sliders). here in the land of $20 minimum wage, the price of the reuben has gone plaid at $15 up from the ludicrous $12 it used to be.
Posted by: anachronda at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (v3pYe)
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The economy has been contracting the last couple of years, I suspect. Only fed printing has created the illusion there's economic expansion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (tT6L1)
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This. I'm also convinced that we went through a depression during DogEater's reign of error -- and the "Quantitative Easing" kept the illusion going ...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 04:45 PM (tT6L1)
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This. I'm also convinced that we went through a depression during DogEater's reign of error -- and the "Quantitative Easing" kept the illusion going ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (TgVp6)
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Columbia Prof Says Faculty Didn’t Approve of Police on Campus
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
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This begs the question: why do they think they have any say with respect to the police?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (YqDXo)
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That's what I'm saying. Police are agents of The State--do they believe that independent enclaves ought to be able to carve out a sphere of their own discretion, or do they believe that it all should be controlled by The State?
Very educated idiots, here.
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Remind me, do Columbia professors believe in private property?
_______________
This begs the question: why do they think they have any say with respect to the police?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (YqDXo)
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That's what I'm saying. Police are agents of The State--do they believe that independent enclaves ought to be able to carve out a sphere of their own discretion, or do they believe that it all should be controlled by The State?
Very educated idiots, here.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (krQz2)
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Exactly what my former automotive company did at end of March. Laid off 400 of us engineers and has been replacing us all with remote "engineers" in India and Mexico.
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I will say again that I firmly believe letting so many indians achieve positions of power in America and American companies put us here.
They might not discuss the caste system outright, but I guarantee they still believe in it and practice it, and Americans aren't *quite* untouchables, but they're close.
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I will say again that I firmly believe letting so many indians achieve positions of power in America and American companies put us here.
They might not discuss the caste system outright, but I guarantee they still believe in it and practice it, and Americans aren't *quite* untouchables, but they're close.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (Cgfkv)
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I expect a global recession / depression.
It'll be a nice break from the riots, threat of nuclear war, and "OMG, Disease X!"
It'll be a nice break from the riots, threat of nuclear war, and "OMG, Disease X!"
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (eST6G)
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This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand
That's when you have an out-of-state cousin come in and beat some ass.
Posted by: Halfhand
That's when you have an out-of-state cousin come in and beat some ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (hF4JZ)
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240 151 I think this is a member of the Patriot Front, a recruiting member.
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed.
Posted by: Nova Local
HBG is on the other list now? and, people wonder why so many nics are "missing".
Posted by: old chick at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (F3Dlr)
I was making a joke about Patriot Front, not the nic...
If so, he's not good at his job.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 04:55 PM (CsUN+)
Um, neither are they, if you haven't noticed.
Posted by: Nova Local
HBG is on the other list now? and, people wonder why so many nics are "missing".
Posted by: old chick at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM (F3Dlr)
I was making a joke about Patriot Front, not the nic...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (exHjb)
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Buy Gold!
Posted by: G. Gordon Liddy at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (aD39U)
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Biden would close the border if the Republicans would just grant him the power.
Posted by: NPR and the Motherforking Media at May 01, 2024 05:13 PM (aD39U)
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And a metric shit ton of money, of course.
Posted by: NPR and the Motherforking Media at May 01, 2024 05:13 PM (aD39U)
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And a metric shit ton of money, of course.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (YqDXo)
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Generic Food should be making a comeback.
Even Whole Foods will be putting it on the shelf.
Now, who is up for some "Drink"?
Even Whole Foods will be putting it on the shelf.
Now, who is up for some "Drink"?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (cOq4q)
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>> Okay, so it cut off the h in hard. Copy and paste is not easy on a phone
no worries, I ardly noticed. The kids in Houston call it H town now. Natives don't even pronounce the H in Houston or the burg up the Eastex named Humble.
It's Youston and Umble.
no worries, I ardly noticed. The kids in Houston call it H town now. Natives don't even pronounce the H in Houston or the burg up the Eastex named Humble.
It's Youston and Umble.
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (8uzBS)
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Uhhh... just take your boot of the economy's neck, stop fucking about in other people's back yards, and let America be America. We were going gangbusters in under a year. Like a drowning person finally getting to the surface and gulping at the air.
All is not lost. It just never had to be this crappy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
I do remember even the day after Trump won how the financial sector exploded with optimism. It was even more amazing since every single elite *cough*Paul Krugman*cough*) was telling us his election would implode the economy.
All is not lost. It just never had to be this crappy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
I do remember even the day after Trump won how the financial sector exploded with optimism. It was even more amazing since every single elite *cough*Paul Krugman*cough*) was telling us his election would implode the economy.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:15 PM (PwgSL)
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You forgot to mention Sulla.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (1bNHn)
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No love for Suharto?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (RIvkX)
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I'm focused more on Shakira.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 05:07 PM (1bNHn)
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No love for Suharto?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (RIvkX)
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I'm focused more on Shakira.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (QnUpo)
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When the Atlantic agrees with me...
"The Casteism I See in America
A raft of evidence shows that caste discrimination has been imported from India to the United States."
https://tinyurl.com/yh63655x
"The Casteism I See in America
A raft of evidence shows that caste discrimination has been imported from India to the United States."
https://tinyurl.com/yh63655x
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (Cgfkv)
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242 One layoff that I went through, they accidentally turned off the key cards at 6 am instead of pm. Got a frantic call by team members that couldn't get in for work.
one layoff that i survived, we came into work one morning and half the group's e-mail didn't work. had to wait for the folks in california to mosey in to work to find at that was because they had been laid off.
one layoff that i survived, we came into work one morning and half the group's e-mail didn't work. had to wait for the folks in california to mosey in to work to find at that was because they had been laid off.
Posted by: anachronda at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (v3pYe)
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however, arby's was always a bit pricey (though not for the sliders). here in the land of $20 minimum wage, the price of the reuben has gone plaid at $15 up from the ludicrous $12 it used to be.
Posted by: anachronda at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (v3pYe)
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Arby's used to have really good salads (for a fast food joint). They got rid of them a year or two ago. Sad.
Posted by: anachronda at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM (v3pYe)
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Arby's used to have really good salads (for a fast food joint). They got rid of them a year or two ago. Sad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (DRSnL)
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This begs the question: why do they think they have any say with respect to the police?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Because crypto-authoritarians say a lot of shit.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Because crypto-authoritarians say a lot of shit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (IG4Id)
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Private property is the distribution of discretion.
It says that it is probably better if the State doesn't make all decisions. So ownership confers a good degree of control, until external effects are considered (making your suburban neighborhood lot into a pig farm, say)
It says that it is probably better if the State doesn't make all decisions. So ownership confers a good degree of control, until external effects are considered (making your suburban neighborhood lot into a pig farm, say)
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (krQz2)
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I lived through the Carter years. Didn't own a house so the interest rates didn't affect me.
We will have several generations living in the same house again. We will have to learn to be frugal and make better use of our money. For those that have money and little debt, there will be bargains. If there is a worldwide depression, they will provide the war to recover. So it goes.
We will have several generations living in the same house again. We will have to learn to be frugal and make better use of our money. For those that have money and little debt, there will be bargains. If there is a worldwide depression, they will provide the war to recover. So it goes.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (yeEu9)
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Arby's used to have really good salads (for a fast food joint). They got rid of them a year or two ago. Sad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (DRSnL)
I used to like their fish sandwiches. The filets were fish shaped rather than tile shaped.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (DRSnL)
I used to like their fish sandwiches. The filets were fish shaped rather than tile shaped.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (eoQWY)
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Best burger for the money is Jack in the Box double slam.
The meat patty's are bigger than McDonalds, there's no middle bun like McDonald's, but there's double meat and double cheese.
Burger King not considered because I don't like their faux grilled taste.
The meat patty's are bigger than McDonalds, there's no middle bun like McDonald's, but there's double meat and double cheese.
Burger King not considered because I don't like their faux grilled taste.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)
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Arby's used to have really good salads (for a fast food joint). They got rid of them a year or two ago. Sad.
Posted by: Jordan61
They have some macaroni and cheese fingers/fries occasionally which are really good.
Posted by: Jordan61
They have some macaroni and cheese fingers/fries occasionally which are really good.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:18 PM (PwgSL)
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the turkey slider was also quite good.
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Arby's is the only fast food restaurant my wife will tolerate.
We both really like the Market Fresh turkey sandwiches. And I used to like the ham ones before they stopped selling them.
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Arby's is the only fast food restaurant my wife will tolerate.
We both really like the Market Fresh turkey sandwiches. And I used to like the ham ones before they stopped selling them.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 05:18 PM (TgVp6)
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Quoted a student in American Thinker article who was shocked being arrested for doing what they were taught to do by the Cultural Marxists Seminaries
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 05:18 PM (fwDg9)
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I lived through the Carter years. Didn't own a house so the interest rates didn't affect me.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (yeEu9)
Your rent pays the apartment owners mortgage. It always affects you.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (yeEu9)
Your rent pays the apartment owners mortgage. It always affects you.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:19 PM (eoQWY)
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The amount of sugar in the Arby's market fresh lemonade could dissolve a whale tooth.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:19 PM (75/Pp)
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They don't care. This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
That, right there, is one Hell of an incentive to train the replacements to fuck up, badly.
"So what you do, Manuel, is if the reactor starts to overheat, is pull out ALL the control rods. Disregard what the book says."
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
That, right there, is one Hell of an incentive to train the replacements to fuck up, badly.
"So what you do, Manuel, is if the reactor starts to overheat, is pull out ALL the control rods. Disregard what the book says."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2024 05:19 PM (8zz6B)
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One layoff that I went through, they accidentally turned off the key cards at 6 am instead of pm. Got a frantic call by team members that couldn't get in for work.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM
When I was laid off from Ford in June 2008, it was Thursday the 12th. I had company softball game that evening. Did not go home after work, went straight to the field. When I got there, my coach (who also worked in my department) said we were laid off. The way he said it, I thought he was joking. But then I realized he was serious.
When I got home after the game, I had answering machine messages from my contract house as well as my mom back in Chicago. Apparently Ford called my contract house to tell them to tell me not to come into work on Friday as I was laid off. When they could not reach me, they called my emergency number, which was my mom who lived in Chicago. They told her to tell me to call them.
That was not a fun day... will always remember when it was, because that Friday was Friday the 13th.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:12 PM
When I was laid off from Ford in June 2008, it was Thursday the 12th. I had company softball game that evening. Did not go home after work, went straight to the field. When I got there, my coach (who also worked in my department) said we were laid off. The way he said it, I thought he was joking. But then I realized he was serious.
When I got home after the game, I had answering machine messages from my contract house as well as my mom back in Chicago. Apparently Ford called my contract house to tell them to tell me not to come into work on Friday as I was laid off. When they could not reach me, they called my emergency number, which was my mom who lived in Chicago. They told her to tell me to call them.
That was not a fun day... will always remember when it was, because that Friday was Friday the 13th.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:20 PM (P5BPp)
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When NPR agrees with me...
"WARNER: After that first trip to the United States, he took another one and another after that, always here as a company employee on a work visa, never a citizen. And as more South Asians came to work in tech jobs, he had more Indian coworkers and managers. And he noticed they were trying to suss out his caste...
WARNER: Years ago, these invitations to go swimming with American friends and neighbors were a sign of acceptance. But now the same invitations for his fellow Indians felt like a trap to out him as a Dalit. And the consequences of being outed - well, that is what our episode is about because some people think that naming people's caste is the way forward to a fair world, while Sam is so afraid he'll be sacked and sent back to India for speaking out."
https://tinyurl.com/y4d48wrg
"WARNER: After that first trip to the United States, he took another one and another after that, always here as a company employee on a work visa, never a citizen. And as more South Asians came to work in tech jobs, he had more Indian coworkers and managers. And he noticed they were trying to suss out his caste...
WARNER: Years ago, these invitations to go swimming with American friends and neighbors were a sign of acceptance. But now the same invitations for his fellow Indians felt like a trap to out him as a Dalit. And the consequences of being outed - well, that is what our episode is about because some people think that naming people's caste is the way forward to a fair world, while Sam is so afraid he'll be sacked and sent back to India for speaking out."
https://tinyurl.com/y4d48wrg
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:20 PM (Cgfkv)
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The FNM: There is no inflation
Also the FNM: You may have noticed prices on some things are up. That's because every company is led by greedy assholes who are raising prices all at the same time just to spite President Bide (PBUH)
Also the FNM: You may have noticed prices on some things are up. That's because every company is led by greedy assholes who are raising prices all at the same time just to spite President Bide (PBUH)
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2024 05:20 PM (ibTVg)
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McDonald's fish, someone posted the link here.
They are north pacific pollack, caught fresh, cleaned and frozen on the boat then sent to the packing house. Probably the best fast food fish on earth.
They are north pacific pollack, caught fresh, cleaned and frozen on the boat then sent to the packing house. Probably the best fast food fish on earth.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:20 PM (lCWOD)
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Best burger for the money is Jack in the Box double slam.
The meat patty's are bigger than McDonalds, there's no middle bun like McDonald's, but there's double meat and double cheese.
Burger King not considered because I don't like their faux grilled taste.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)
You can get a double hamburger at McDs that is a smaller bun and no middle bread.
The meat patty's are bigger than McDonalds, there's no middle bun like McDonald's, but there's double meat and double cheese.
Burger King not considered because I don't like their faux grilled taste.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)
You can get a double hamburger at McDs that is a smaller bun and no middle bread.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:20 PM (eoQWY)
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So, let's see if I have this right: The Junta running the country is printing insane amounts of money, while flooding the country with illegals who are getting a ton of free stuff.
Meanwhile, they're sending billions to Ukraine so they can launder money back into their pockets, plus fund NGO's which are helping to move illegals into the country.
Then, our legal system has completely turned against regular Americans while the suicidal left has decided they need to burn down everything in sight.
The Junta also brazenly stole multiple elections.
Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Meanwhile, they're sending billions to Ukraine so they can launder money back into their pockets, plus fund NGO's which are helping to move illegals into the country.
Then, our legal system has completely turned against regular Americans while the suicidal left has decided they need to burn down everything in sight.
The Junta also brazenly stole multiple elections.
Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM (tT6L1)
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Literally nobody believed the 'Bidenomics' crap from the start.
Just like in 2008, the liberals were stupid enough to assume that the economy would bounce back automatically regardless of anything they did, so they went insane hog-wild with leftist lunacy thinking they would take credit for the recovering economy.
Instead, exactly like 2008, what should have been a roaring recovery was a whimper of part-time jobs as the economy is crushed by insane inflation and unskilled 3rd world illegals.
Just like in 2008, the liberals were stupid enough to assume that the economy would bounce back automatically regardless of anything they did, so they went insane hog-wild with leftist lunacy thinking they would take credit for the recovering economy.
Instead, exactly like 2008, what should have been a roaring recovery was a whimper of part-time jobs as the economy is crushed by insane inflation and unskilled 3rd world illegals.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM (AjL/0)
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Because crypto-authoritarians say a lot of shit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (IG4Id)
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Worse. Lifetime-partial-infants never understand opportunity costs, because what "should be" is no costs at all. Thus, because costs are mean, they can meet every cost by thinking the person responsible is mean.
Just like their mama when she withheld something, trying to teach them consequences.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 05:16 PM (IG4Id)
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Worse. Lifetime-partial-infants never understand opportunity costs, because what "should be" is no costs at all. Thus, because costs are mean, they can meet every cost by thinking the person responsible is mean.
Just like their mama when she withheld something, trying to teach them consequences.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM (krQz2)
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They could cut spending and stop trying to make oil as expensive as they possibly can. That would help.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at May 01, 2024 05:22 PM (Y8lzz)
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Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM (tT6L1)
Not the hill to die on unless you can match their offer.
-GOPe
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM (tT6L1)
Not the hill to die on unless you can match their offer.
-GOPe
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:22 PM (75/Pp)
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They have some macaroni and cheese fingers/fries occasionally which are really good.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:18 PM (PwgSL)
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They sound delicious but I am trying to NOT be a fattie! Hence the salads.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:18 PM (PwgSL)
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They sound delicious but I am trying to NOT be a fattie! Hence the salads.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (DRSnL)
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@172
>>McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
It's going to be a combination of reduced sizes, reduced staffs, closed dining rooms during some or all of the day and Kiosks and AI, and automation.
A great many people are going to learn that the minimum wage is zero point zero.
>>McDonalds says they have to reduce prices, so expect very small cheeseburgers to be introduced soon.
It's going to be a combination of reduced sizes, reduced staffs, closed dining rooms during some or all of the day and Kiosks and AI, and automation.
A great many people are going to learn that the minimum wage is zero point zero.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (XV/Pl)
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Wonder what the American Indians think of tranny injuns?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (J8LnB)
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This happened to me in 2016. We had to train the replacements or lose the severance package. The replacements were also openly ridiculing our job loss. I complained and they were told to tone it down. A very infuriating time.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
I had to sit in on training sessions for our fresh out of college replacements back in 2009. My soon to be ex-manager was asking the head writer if he thought the new guys were getting it. He replied, "I don't know, but they'll never learn it as fast as hobbitopoly did." I giggled.
Only a couple of years later, the fresh-outs were gone and the old guys were hired back.
Posted by: Halfhand at May 01, 2024 04:52 PM (7XQ/q)
I had to sit in on training sessions for our fresh out of college replacements back in 2009. My soon to be ex-manager was asking the head writer if he thought the new guys were getting it. He replied, "I don't know, but they'll never learn it as fast as hobbitopoly did." I giggled.
Only a couple of years later, the fresh-outs were gone and the old guys were hired back.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (XPM1I)
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Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Not the hill to die on unless you can match their offer.
-GOPe
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WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE!!
Not the hill to die on unless you can match their offer.
-GOPe
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WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (Cgfkv)
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Both the Arby's and the white castle Mac and cheese nodules are kind of bland.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (75/Pp)
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They sound delicious but I am trying to NOT be a fattie! Hence the salads.
Posted by: Jordan61
lol. Yep. They're diet killers.
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They sound delicious but I am trying to NOT be a fattie! Hence the salads.
Posted by: Jordan61
lol. Yep. They're diet killers.
Posted by: Biergood at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (PwgSL)
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Quoted a student in American Thinker article who was shocked being arrested for doing what they were taught to do by the Cultural Marxists Seminaries
Posted by: Skip
and, their shocked parents said their kid fell in with the wrong crowd.
Posted by: Skip
and, their shocked parents said their kid fell in with the wrong crowd.
Posted by: old chick at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (F3Dlr)
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Wonder what the American Indians think of tranny injuns?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (J8LnB)
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They're of two spirits.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 05:23 PM (J8LnB)
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They're of two spirits.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (krQz2)
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Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM
You pay more in taxes then you should, then you die, penniless.
But here's why that's a good thing...
Gosh, how does this eventually play out?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:21 PM
You pay more in taxes then you should, then you die, penniless.
But here's why that's a good thing...
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (RKVpM)
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AI will soon replace ALL jobs. We will all need to learn how to live much simpler and more meager lives, but the concept of "working for a living" will be obsolete.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (l3E8g)
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You pay more in taxes then you should, then you die, penniless.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (RKVpM)
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And then the government comes to collect your organs.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (RKVpM)
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And then the government comes to collect your organs.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2)
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And then the government comes to collect your organs.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2)
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I will gladly pay you with my kidney Tuesday for a burger today.....
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:25 PM (krQz2)
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I will gladly pay you with my kidney Tuesday for a burger today.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:25 PM (tT6L1)
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Sid, the eternal optomist. They do not expect you to live a life absent of toil.
They expect you to be dead.
They expect you to be dead.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (75/Pp)
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Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
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I will say again that I firmly believe letting so many indians achieve positions of power in America and American companies put us here.
They might not discuss the caste system outright, but I guarantee they still believe in it and practice it, and Americans aren't *quite* untouchables, but they're close.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM
Also does not help that my company's North America operations CEO is from Mexico and the overall company's CEO is European. So neither likely gives a damn about American workers. Granted, I bet that is the case for the majority of CEOs, who only see employees as numbers or as expensive or cheap cogs in their machine.
They might not discuss the caste system outright, but I guarantee they still believe in it and practice it, and Americans aren't *quite* untouchables, but they're close.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a degenerate who doesn't support Ukraine or the establishment at May 01, 2024 05:14 PM
Also does not help that my company's North America operations CEO is from Mexico and the overall company's CEO is European. So neither likely gives a damn about American workers. Granted, I bet that is the case for the majority of CEOs, who only see employees as numbers or as expensive or cheap cogs in their machine.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (P5BPp)
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Ah, no, I am not a renter. That is the period of living in a school bus or an old travel trailer.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (yeEu9)
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293 Both the Arby's and the white castle Mac and cheese nodules are kind of bland.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (75/Pp)
Do.Not.Want.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (75/Pp)
Do.Not.Want.
Posted by: Please, no at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (BMwF7)
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“The U.S. economy is showing signs of stagflation as growth slumps down and prices continue to surge for average Americans …”
Too bad nobody gives a rat’s ass about those deplorable degenerates.
Too bad nobody gives a rat’s ass about those deplorable degenerates.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (CnN/c)
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It's like celebrating taking someone off of life support. Yes, there's nothing more we can do to save their life, and for those who believe in it, they are going to a better place. But you still don't celebrate the situation.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Do I fucking well sound like I'm celebrating?
Do you seriously think I'm pleased by any of this bullshit? That I'm pleased as punch that good people are losing jobs and homes? That families are getting atomized? The folks are losing hope?
If you do, I got questions, brother.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Do I fucking well sound like I'm celebrating?
Do you seriously think I'm pleased by any of this bullshit? That I'm pleased as punch that good people are losing jobs and homes? That families are getting atomized? The folks are losing hope?
If you do, I got questions, brother.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (OUMaO)
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302 Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
“Conservatives” here like Nova Local are so bling with rage they can’t understand that. No business pays taxes. Only the consumer does.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
“Conservatives” here like Nova Local are so bling with rage they can’t understand that. No business pays taxes. Only the consumer does.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (uTTG7)
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Oldcat, open the bun and look at the size of the patty.
I'm convinced that Jack is the better buy.
I'm convinced that Jack is the better buy.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (lCWOD)
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one layoff that i survived, we came into work one morning and half the group's e-mail didn't work. had to wait for the folks in california to mosey in to work to find at that was because they had been laid off.
Posted by: anachronda
I have survived five headcount reductions in the last 35 years of my company. And I don't know how I've done it.
Posted by: anachronda
I have survived five headcount reductions in the last 35 years of my company. And I don't know how I've done it.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (hF4JZ)
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AI will soon replace ALL jobs. We will all need to learn how to live much simpler and more meager lives, but the concept of "working for a living" will be obsolete.
Posted by: Sid
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What the fuck is a "shit-for-brains troll"??
Posted by: Sid
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What the fuck is a "shit-for-brains troll"??
Posted by: dowager countess of grantham at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (vtyCZ)
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AI will soon replace ALL jobs. We will all need to learn how to live much simpler and more meager lives, but the concept of "working for a living" will be obsolete.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (l3E8g)
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No it won't. Or no it should not.
If we go beyond holding AI as really useful assistants somebody is not paying attention.
The AI called Minerva is fed on a YUUUGE database of mathematics, the history of mathematical proofs and even some bad proofs (student proofs) that are marked as things not to do. Minerva dwarfs the computing power of ChatGPT.
I believe that it was said that Minerva can take a Junior-level High School math test and get at best 50%.
ChatGTP can get 25%.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (l3E8g)
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No it won't. Or no it should not.
If we go beyond holding AI as really useful assistants somebody is not paying attention.
The AI called Minerva is fed on a YUUUGE database of mathematics, the history of mathematical proofs and even some bad proofs (student proofs) that are marked as things not to do. Minerva dwarfs the computing power of ChatGPT.
I believe that it was said that Minerva can take a Junior-level High School math test and get at best 50%.
ChatGTP can get 25%.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (krQz2)
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Sid, the eternal optomist. They do not expect you to live a life absent of toil.
They expect you to be dead.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (75/Pp)
Our elites are mindless. If they got what they wanted they would be dead soon after, since their lifestyles and power are built on the base they are trying to destroy. You can't have a tech society with serfs.
They expect you to be dead.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (75/Pp)
Our elites are mindless. If they got what they wanted they would be dead soon after, since their lifestyles and power are built on the base they are trying to destroy. You can't have a tech society with serfs.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (v0R5T)
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I don't celebrate people losing their jobs. I do, however, laugh at the entitled jackasses who think they're owed that job they were just fired from.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (tT6L1)
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302 Since Trump is America 1st, his 1st pushed law should be related to taxing the sh&t out of all companies who do ANY business in the US, but employ ANY workers overseas OR in the US on foreign visas. Enormous taxes per employee overseas or on visas that would pay for failing infrastructure or tax breaks for US-only employed companies.
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
No, as companies normally do, they will ask themselves if they really want to relocate some of their employees overseas when it will cost them more than if they just kept them in the US...and then they won't do it...
And those that say "screw it, I'll pay and try to bilk my customers" - well, now they might be competing against US companies that can actually compete on price (since no one is getting slave labor prices), and thus beat them...
It's not a conservative policy. It's a "save the damn country" policy.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 04:31 PM (exHjb)
Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
No, as companies normally do, they will ask themselves if they really want to relocate some of their employees overseas when it will cost them more than if they just kept them in the US...and then they won't do it...
And those that say "screw it, I'll pay and try to bilk my customers" - well, now they might be competing against US companies that can actually compete on price (since no one is getting slave labor prices), and thus beat them...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (exHjb)
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Not eating any Rat-in-the-Box.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM (R4t5M)
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Also does not help that my company's North America operations CEO is from Mexico and the overall company's CEO is European. So neither likely gives a damn about American workers. Granted, I bet that is the case for the majority of CEOs, who only see employees as numbers or as expensive or cheap cogs in their machine.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (P5BPp)
There are no employees, only workers, as “worker” has a nice Marxist ring to it, and is a reminder that hyper evil rich people DO NOT WORK.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (P5BPp)
There are no employees, only workers, as “worker” has a nice Marxist ring to it, and is a reminder that hyper evil rich people DO NOT WORK.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:30 PM (uTTG7)
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I do so look forward to AI running the oil wells out here. Or doing agriculture.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:30 PM (yeEu9)
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I have survived five headcount reductions in the last 35 years of my company. And I don't know how I've done it.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM
The secret is to come back into work as if nothing happened.
I have survived five headcount reductions in the last 35 years of my company. And I don't know how I've done it.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM
The secret is to come back into work as if nothing happened.
Posted by: George Constanta at May 01, 2024 05:30 PM (RKVpM)
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“Conservatives” here like Nova Local are so bling with rage they can’t understand that. No business pays taxes. Only the consumer does.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (uTTG7)
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But the sleight of hand fools many of the "The Rich need to pay their fair share"-ers.
...i.e., Democrats.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM (uTTG7)
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But the sleight of hand fools many of the "The Rich need to pay their fair share"-ers.
...i.e., Democrats.
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Nood new residents for Deerbornastan
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when I bought a house in 1986 I bought my interest rate to 8%, my next door neighbor bought in 1979 and I think his rate was 17%. Does anybody here know what the mortgage rates were in 1979?
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM (8uzBS)
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To curb inflation, spend money to the greatest extent possible on #1 a good or #2 a service. Government is neither #1 or #2, spend here sparingly.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM (uTTG7)
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Their Dollar menu was great. When it went to $1.25 ok, $1.50 eh?
It's not even on the Dollar Placard and the Dollar Placard goes up to $2.50.
It's not even on the Dollar Placard and the Dollar Placard goes up to $2.50.
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The best and cheapest burgers are a locally owned place. Huge double meat cheeseburger $6,99.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (nOwFe)
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Smart young men should be eyeing trades that can't be outsourced overseas. Maintenance men will be able to find jobs. There are others that will be in demand. Someone needs to keep the lights on and the utilities working.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (yeEu9)
329
Did Tucker really say that shit about nuking Japan?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 05:33 PM (J8LnB)
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Buying a house in an era of high interest t rates isn’t a bad thing. Eventually rates fall and yiu refinance. And when that happens the value of the house increases as well. Prices are a function of rates. Rates up price fall rates down prices increase .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 05:33 PM (tpjlM)
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when I bought a house in 1986 I bought my interest rate to 8%, my next door neighbor bought in 1979 and I think his rate was 17%. Does anybody here know what the mortgage rates were in 1979?
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM (8uzBS)
Think they peaked at about 20 percent for a fixed rate loan. That's why everyone went to variable rates since the banks could have a little security against future disaster. There was a cap, so at worst an 8 percent could go up to 12 or something.
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM (8uzBS)
Think they peaked at about 20 percent for a fixed rate loan. That's why everyone went to variable rates since the banks could have a little security against future disaster. There was a cap, so at worst an 8 percent could go up to 12 or something.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:33 PM (eoQWY)
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328 Smart young men should be eyeing trades that can't be outsourced overseas. Maintenance men will be able to find jobs. There are others that will be in demand. Someone needs to keep the lights on and the utilities working.
Posted by: Notsothorea
Maybe not outsourced but replaced by robots will be a thing.
Posted by: Notsothorea
Maybe not outsourced but replaced by robots will be a thing.
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 05:35 PM (tpjlM)
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Iran, Panama Canal, giving Zimbabwe to Mugabe, greenlighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Off the top of my head.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (x0n13)
Exept for the Zimbabwe bit. We can blame the Brits for that. But I also add he wanted to serve up the ROK on a silver platter as well.
Iran, Panama Canal, giving Zimbabwe to Mugabe, greenlighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Off the top of my head.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2024 04:26 PM (x0n13)
Exept for the Zimbabwe bit. We can blame the Brits for that. But I also add he wanted to serve up the ROK on a silver platter as well.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:35 PM (uTTG7)
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when I bought a house in 1986 I bought my interest rate to 8%, my next door neighbor bought in 1979 and I think his rate was 17%. Does anybody here know what the mortgage rates were in 1979?
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM
I think I paid 9% mortgage rate or thereabouts in 1979. But 'prime rate' on business was insane. My business was around 21%.
when I bought a house in 1986 I bought my interest rate to 8%, my next door neighbor bought in 1979 and I think his rate was 17%. Does anybody here know what the mortgage rates were in 1979?
Posted by: DanMan at May 01, 2024 05:31 PM
I think I paid 9% mortgage rate or thereabouts in 1979. But 'prime rate' on business was insane. My business was around 21%.
Posted by: George Constanta at May 01, 2024 05:35 PM (RKVpM)
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Those "taxes" will be paid by the end consumer, not the corporation.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
If the end consumer has a job, because those Trump taxes repatriated thousands of American jobs, then paying those taxes will be a breeze.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 01, 2024 05:26 PM (iODuv)
If the end consumer has a job, because those Trump taxes repatriated thousands of American jobs, then paying those taxes will be a breeze.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 01, 2024 05:36 PM (8zz6B)
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Smart young men should be eyeing trades that can't be outsourced overseas. Maintenance men will be able to find jobs. There are others that will be in demand. Someone needs to keep the lights on and the utilities working.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (yeEu9)
College for men, and increasingly for women is a bad bet. People should start one on one tutorials for education and training and take the government out of the equation. I'm already seeing that most college kids can't do the job even with a technical degree. Soon it will count against you.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (yeEu9)
College for men, and increasingly for women is a bad bet. People should start one on one tutorials for education and training and take the government out of the equation. I'm already seeing that most college kids can't do the job even with a technical degree. Soon it will count against you.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:36 PM (eoQWY)
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Burger King not considered because I don't like their faux grilled taste.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)
I can’t comment on Burger King either.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 05:17 PM (lCWOD)
I can’t comment on Burger King either.
Posted by: Vincent Vega at May 01, 2024 05:37 PM (uTTG7)
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Maybe not outsourced but replaced by robots will be a thing.
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 05:35 PM (tpjlM)
We are nowhere close to a general purpose robot, and all robots need maintenance.
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 05:35 PM (tpjlM)
We are nowhere close to a general purpose robot, and all robots need maintenance.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:37 PM (eoQWY)
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AI will soon replace ALL jobs...
Posted by: Sid
AI can only replace mindless jobs that have no contact with the physical world.
I'm so sorry, Sid...
Posted by: Sid
AI can only replace mindless jobs that have no contact with the physical world.
I'm so sorry, Sid...
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2024 05:38 PM (ZZOOb)
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OJT with one of the old heads at work. A great education.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 05:38 PM (R4t5M)
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We are nowhere close to a general purpose robot, and all robots need maintenance.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:39 PM (krQz2)
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Do I fucking well sound like I'm celebrating?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM
I did not mean to direct anything towards you personally. I meant it as just in general about the "let it burn!" crowd/mindset, as some seem to enjoy calling for things to burn.
That was the sentiment I was reading in the comments here over the past couple years with some commenters. Which is why I comment here much less now. Doesn't feel good to know that some people "on my side" are taking pleasure or cracking jokes about people losing jobs, no matter the industry.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at May 01, 2024 05:27 PM
I did not mean to direct anything towards you personally. I meant it as just in general about the "let it burn!" crowd/mindset, as some seem to enjoy calling for things to burn.
That was the sentiment I was reading in the comments here over the past couple years with some commenters. Which is why I comment here much less now. Doesn't feel good to know that some people "on my side" are taking pleasure or cracking jokes about people losing jobs, no matter the industry.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:39 PM (P5BPp)
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336 Smart young men should be eyeing trades that can't be outsourced overseas. Maintenance men will be able to find jobs. There are others that will be in demand. Someone needs to keep the lights on and the utilities working.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (yeEu9)
College for men, and increasingly for women is a bad bet. People should start one on one tutorials for education and training and take the government out of the equation. I'm already seeing that most college kids can't do the job even with a technical degree. Soon it will count against you.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:36 PM (eoQWY)
And a drive through SC can show you jobs are in fact being outsourced to HERE. It DOES happen, and if government policy were smarter, it would happen more. (And if we bothered educating our kids, had state and local governments less hostile to business, etc)
Kids should look at a trade, then maybe going back to community college (if they need it) to learn the fundamentals of running a business, then start opening their own businesses, if they feel the urge to do so. Lots of opportunity to be found out there, and more can be had with sane people running things.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 01, 2024 05:32 PM (yeEu9)
College for men, and increasingly for women is a bad bet. People should start one on one tutorials for education and training and take the government out of the equation. I'm already seeing that most college kids can't do the job even with a technical degree. Soon it will count against you.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 05:36 PM (eoQWY)
And a drive through SC can show you jobs are in fact being outsourced to HERE. It DOES happen, and if government policy were smarter, it would happen more. (And if we bothered educating our kids, had state and local governments less hostile to business, etc)
Kids should look at a trade, then maybe going back to community college (if they need it) to learn the fundamentals of running a business, then start opening their own businesses, if they feel the urge to do so. Lots of opportunity to be found out there, and more can be had with sane people running things.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:41 PM (uTTG7)
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298 AI will soon replace ALL jobs. We will all need to learn how to live much simpler and more meager lives, but the concept of "working for a living" will be obsolete.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (l3E8g)
Says someone with zero sense of history. I remember that we weren’t supposed to have teachers by 2000 because computers would do all the teaching. I also remember when VR was the future. And self-driving cars, remember them? They were inevitable 10 years ago.
AI isn’t, and is overhyped beyond belief.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 05:24 PM (l3E8g)
Says someone with zero sense of history. I remember that we weren’t supposed to have teachers by 2000 because computers would do all the teaching. I also remember when VR was the future. And self-driving cars, remember them? They were inevitable 10 years ago.
AI isn’t, and is overhyped beyond belief.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 05:43 PM (uTTG7)
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I don't celebrate people losing their jobs. I do, however, laugh at the entitled jackasses who think they're owed that job they were just fired from.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM
I talked to a lawyer after I was laid off about severance package details. I needed guidance on the interpretation of a section on "restrictions on future work".
After I got the answers I needed on that, we discussed about the situation in general and she was saying how shitty it was that it happened. And I got to share with her an old Rush Limbaugh axiom that I learned when I was worried about being laid off in 2008.
Rush said that no person thinks "I want to give 500 people a job, I think I'll start a company." No. He says "I want to make money, so I am going to start a company." And the purpose of a company is not to employ people, but to make money.
That put me in a better frame of mind, understanding that I am only as useful as an employee if I am helping the goal of making it money. And no one is owed a job or employment. It is my responsibility to develop skills that make a company want to hire me.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 05:29 PM
I talked to a lawyer after I was laid off about severance package details. I needed guidance on the interpretation of a section on "restrictions on future work".
After I got the answers I needed on that, we discussed about the situation in general and she was saying how shitty it was that it happened. And I got to share with her an old Rush Limbaugh axiom that I learned when I was worried about being laid off in 2008.
Rush said that no person thinks "I want to give 500 people a job, I think I'll start a company." No. He says "I want to make money, so I am going to start a company." And the purpose of a company is not to employ people, but to make money.
That put me in a better frame of mind, understanding that I am only as useful as an employee if I am helping the goal of making it money. And no one is owed a job or employment. It is my responsibility to develop skills that make a company want to hire me.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 05:47 PM (P5BPp)
346
198 President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)
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You misspelt moronic.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)
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You misspelt moronic.
Posted by: Ciampino - Morons, imbeciles and idiots at May 01, 2024 05:58 PM (qfLjt)
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198 President Biden tried to increase border security, but the GOP, with Trump's backing, refused.
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)
He’s a Brezhnev era apparatchik giving the party line (h/t, Lord Hannan).
Posted by: Sid at May 01, 2024 04:56 PM (l3E8g)
Even a gay prostitute like Sid doesn’t believe this nonsense .
Posted by: Montec at May 01, 2024 04:58 PM (Y6Wgg)
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Sid's ironic. He's not serious.
Posted by: Axeman at May 01, 2024 05:03 PM (krQz2)
He’s a Brezhnev era apparatchik giving the party line (h/t, Lord Hannan).
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2024 07:09 PM (uTTG7)
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I lived through the last round of stagflation, and that was more than enough. It hit when my husband and I were just getting started, and now here it is again when we are retired. Gosh, don't people EVER LEARN? Well, obviously they don't.
Posted by: Ladyhobbit at May 01, 2024 10:18 PM (79tta)
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