Corrupt Judge Fines Trump $9,000 For Criticizing the Prosecution and Its Witnesses, Threatens Jail Time If Trump Exercises His Free Speech Rights as the Leading Candidate for the Presidency Again

(Whoops, sorry -- I thought I published this forty minutes ago!)

Bear in mind, George Stephanopolous was just the tip of the spear in a new information operation, to sell the American people on the idea that if a presidential candidate is merely accused of a criminal conduct, it's a Constitutional Crisis and no one is allowed to vote for him.

So that is the political narrative that Trump needs to combat if he's to have a chance at winning.

And, get this, the corrupt judge in the laughable business records case threatens Trump with jail if he won't meekly allow the lawfare operation to steamroll him.

Judge Merchan holds Trump in contempt, levies $9,000 fine and threatens "incarceratory sentence"

Judge Juan Merchan, overseeing the criminal trial of former President Donald J. Trump, has held the former president in contempt of court for violating a gag order, levying a $9,000 fine as a result and threatening Trump with an "incarceratory sentence" should the gag order be violated again.

Judge Merchan fined Trump $9,000 for violating the gag order that prohibits him from attacking witnesses, jurors, and others involved in the case.
The gag order placed on the former president is not placed on key witnesses in the case, including convicted perjurer Michael Cohen, who has taken to TikTok to trash Trump in cash-grab livestreams.
If convicted, Trump could face probation or up to four years in prison.

The trial of Donald J. Trump, the first former president to face criminal prosecution, has entered its third week. Judge Juan Merchan has fined Trump $9,000 for repeatedly violating a gag order that bars him from making attacks on witnesses, jurors, and others connected to the case. The judge issued his ruling as the trial began its third week, stating that Trump's statements, including those on social media, had violated the order.

Update: Trump blasts the gag order and says the whole case is a "hoax."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:55 PM

Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2024 01:56 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Meaty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 01:56 PM (di6C2)

3 Zoiks!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 30, 2024 01:56 PM (/HDaX)

4 We all thought you were taking a nap!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2024 01:56 PM (1dCUq)

5 It's who they are

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 30, 2024 01:56 PM (N1tpc)

6 (Whoops, sorry -- I thought I published this forty minutes ago!)

=======

Called it:

"Thought he hit publish, but actually hit draft.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

7 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2024 01:57 PM (Wnv9h)

8 How would jail work ? Would his Secret Service have to be incarcerated too ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2024 01:57 PM (Akjoo)

9 Whoever had "draft" instead of "post" may proceed to the window and collect your winnings.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 30, 2024 01:57 PM (T+Iwg)

10 >Corrupt Judge Fines Trump $9,000 For Criticizing the Prosecution and Its Witnesses, Threatens Jail Time

---

it begins

this is how you get the public ready to see Trump in jail

Posted by: Don Black at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (/7KEl)

11 Ace lives!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (9yWhg)

12 Update: Trump blasts the gag order and says the whole case is a "hoax."

Trump read my comment about the folly of turning him into a martyr. You're welcome, Donald.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (CsUN+)

13 One armed rows suck.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (di6C2)

14 He's daring them to jail him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

15 mistitled, should read: Judge uses extralegal means to try and prevent Trump from campaigning.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (lTGtQ)

16 LET'S DANCE!

https://tinyurl.com/57nuf39e

(X.com)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (tSeat)

17 (Whoops, sorry -- I thought I published this forty minutes ago!)

Boss, you gotta stop fooling around with the time warp gizmo.

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (5fDan)

18 They HAVE TO get Trump.

I'm honestly shocked he hasn't dodged literal bullets yet.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (N1tpc)

19 It would be the most incredible jail time you’ve ever seen. The best jail cell, the best guards, the best shanks. You’ve never seen such incredible jails. Anyone will tell you.

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (tpjlM)

20 Dear Mad Judge

It's a Banana Republic if you can keep it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (/Xhke)

21 I am more and more convinced that Trump will be in jail before Election Month begins

Posted by: Don Black at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (/7KEl)

22 Judge Merchan holds Trump in contempt, levies $9,000 fine and threatens "incarceratory sentence"
++++
Do it, Don. You'll look great in orange and you can use your yard time to do impromptu rallies through the fence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (HnUIn)

23 I'm packing up all those condoms that don't fit me and sending them to Judge Merchan.
Just do it.

Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (bC3yW)

24 Shrug.
- GOP

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (tpjlM)

25 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (tSeat)
----------
Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (Be/+i)

26
What have gag orders been used for in the past? I take it there's some narrow set of reasons.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (MoZTd)

27 Update: Trump blasts the gag order and says the whole case is a "hoax."
++++
Good. It is. Well, not a hoax, exactly, but a nakedly political exercise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

28 Perhaps Trump should dismiss his Secret Service detail and hire a militia.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (tSeat)

29 My biggest fine from a judge is $2,500. It was worth it.

Posted by: nckate at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (4bYb7)

30 How much money exactly has the judge and his daughter raised using this trial as the effort?

Because they are using this as a fundraising tool.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)

31 I'm honestly shocked he hasn't dodged literal bullets yet.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian

I'm convinced they know better--making it obvious turns him into something far more dangerous than he already is: A fallen martyr.

They want to be rid of him, of course, but they gotta Epstein him.

Posted by: The Ghoul (not a zombie) at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (OUMaO)

32 The trial of Donald J. Trump, the first former president to face criminal prosecution, has entered its third week.
++++
And, oddly, he's the only former president who doesn't appear to be a criminal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

33 Maybe the judge needs Nancy Pelosi's giant gavel to pound while yelling "respect mai authoratay!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (/Xhke)

34 It's my guess that if Trump is jailed, he will be the most popular inmate in the joint.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (CsUN+)

35 Would Trump join a gang and get neck tattoos?

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (tpjlM)

36 forty-second!

Posted by: deep thought at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (v3pYe)

37 Irradiated sock gone.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (OUMaO)

38 The Left has Killed

Comedy

Sarcasm

The Courts

College

Movies

TV shows

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (dKiJG)

39 I hope DJT goes to jail just for a little bit.

He would be the King among the inmates and build even more street cred.

Even Corn Pop would vote for him.

Posted by: Czech Chick at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (I6NNh)

40 Madness. We can no longer criticize Communist countries for their methods, as we have officially become one.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (SRRAx)

41 32 The trial of Donald J. Trump, the first former president to face criminal prosecution, has entered its third week.
++++
And, oddly, he's the only former president who doesn't appear to be a criminal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

=======

I'm pretty sure being a traitor to the whims of those who serve under him is a crime.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

42 Even McCarthy at National Cucks Online thinks the case is a sham: https://rb.gy/ar8biz

Posted by: Physics Geek at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (CaTb6)

43 Because they are using this as a fundraising tool.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)

Are they doing it as part of a reelection campaign or just nakedly doing a gofundme?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (di6C2)

44 My biggest fine from a judge is $2,500. It was worth it.
Posted by: nckate at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (4bYb7)
-----------
Did you shove a sugarcane up his rump and hose the jury with scalding horse urine?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (Be/+i)

45 LET'S DANCE!

https://tinyurl.com/57nuf39e

(X.com)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 01:58 PM (tSeat)
.......

Did Jimmy Carter die?

Posted by: wth at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

46 As a true Socialist, the Judge lamented that he was limited to a $1000 fine and not able to charge Trump more since he is wealthy.

Posted by: Fritz Hollings at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (aD39U)

47 So, if Trump pays the fine, what does that money go to? Some kind of court general fund?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (9yWhg)

48 Merchan is going to jail him.

Uncharted waters.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (IFNME)

49 Did you shove a sugarcane up his rump and hose the jury with scalding horse urine?

Oddly specific.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (CsUN+)

50 42 Even McCarthy at National Cucks Online thinks the case is a sham: https://rb.gy/ar8biz
Posted by: Physics Geek at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (CaTb6)

======

I haven't kept up with his writing in a very long time, but I'd be willing to bet that he has an essay from, say, 1-2 years ago that says the case is super serious and needs consideration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

51 Red Dawn flashback.

Donald Trump behind the fence yelling, "avenge me boys!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (/Xhke)

52 Did Jimmy Carter die?
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

History's Greatest Monster still lives.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (aD39U)

53
And, oddly, he's the only former president who doesn't appear to be a criminal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

__________

He's making the others look bad.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (MoZTd)

54 How would jail work ? Would his Secret Service have to be incarcerated too ?

There's been drooling in the media already that the White House will simply remove his SS detail and he'll get shanked. I think the actual idiots in charge understand how poorly that's likely to go for the continued legitimacy of the federal government, but I've been wrong before.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (2ocoG)

55 I volunteer to do Trump's time in jail as Judge Merchan's Trump hostage.

Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (bC3yW)

56 49 Did you shove a sugarcane up his rump and hose the jury with scalding horse urine?

Oddly specific.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (CsUN+)

I was just about to say the same thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (di6C2)

57 So, if Trump pays the fine, what does that money go to? Some kind of court general fund?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

End of the term Pizza Party!

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 30, 2024 02:03 PM (CIS44)

58 What have gag orders been used for in the past? I take it there's some narrow set of reasons.

-

It's my understanding that they're supposed to protect the defendant and make sure he gets a fair trial.

Not protect the government and the judge's daughter's fundraising group.

Posted by: Moron Robbie Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abdurrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi at April 30, 2024 02:03 PM (9Ct69)

59 2016: Even talking about investigating a presidential candidate is a sign of corruption and the end of our sacred democracy

2024: Lol Biden's giving it good and hard to Trump for daring to run against him!

Posted by: The left at April 30, 2024 02:03 PM (ibTVg)

60 >Madness. We can no longer criticize Communist countries for their methods, as we have officially become one.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth

Oh I stopped making fun of other countries' politics long ago

we're as bad as anyone else out there, with maybe a handful of exceptions

Posted by: Don Black at April 30, 2024 02:03 PM (/7KEl)

61 26
What have gag orders been used for in the past? I take it there's some narrow set of reasons.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (MoZTd)
Well, they wanted to make him wear a jock 3 sizes too small.

Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2024 02:03 PM (NxC5+)

62 Did you shove a sugarcane up his rump and hose the jury with scalding horse urine?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 30, 2024 02:01 PM

That's...oddly specific.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (Wnv9h)

63 He's daring them to jail him.

At this point it’s not so much daring them to jail him as deciding whether to fight or to lose.

“During my time in the camps I had got to know the enemies of the human race quite well: they respect the big fist and nothing else; the harder you slug them, the safer you will be. People in the West simply will not understand this, and are forever hoping to mollify them with concessions.”—Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Oak and the Calf

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (EXyHK)

64 Judge Juan Merchan has fined Trump $9,000 for repeatedly violating a gag order that bars him from making attacks on witnesses, jurors, and others connected to the case.
++++
I hate the press. So very, very much.

That's not what this is, or what it ever was. It prohibits a candidate for President of the United States to speak about the naked political persecution the state is using to destroy him. It's absurd. His statements aren't "attacks," they are simple statements of fact regarding conflicts of interest, political skulduggery, etc.

And this is from that "MXM News" outfit, which appears to be "Axios for dummies on the other side of the aisle." Even those ostensibly opposed to the mainstream news outlets still can't help it. They probably don't even know they're doing it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (HnUIn)

65 The judge is a corrupt hack and pissant. The jury is likely more hangman than any jury of racist southern Democrats sitting on a trial of a black man accused of raping a white woman in 1860 in Alabama.

But I continue to believe the trial and the obvious, blatant fraud and political persecution of everyone involved in the trial is the best campaign promotion that Trump can have right now. It's like 100s of millions of dollars of in-kind contributions to Trump's campaign.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (iFTx/)

66 56 49 Did you shove a sugarcane up his rump and hose the jury with scalding horse urine?

Oddly specific.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (CsUN+)

I was just about to say the same thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (di6C2)

#MeToo!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (T+Iwg)

67 But guys, the left is like totally afraid of stealing the election because reasons.

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (tpjlM)

68 2023: How dare that evil thug Putin arrest his political opponent!

2024: I hope Biden does what Putin did. Err...I mean I hope Trump is found guilty.

Posted by: The left at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (ibTVg)

69 Are they doing it as part of a reelection campaign or just nakedly doing a gofundme?

Posted by: Aetius451AD

The judge's daughter runs Authentic Campaigns, a democrat PAC which has raised over $93 million for candidates like Adam Schiff and the senate majority PAC.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 30, 2024 02:05 PM (lTGtQ)

70 There's been drooling in the media already that the White House will simply remove his SS detail and he'll get shanked.
.......

Doubtful. He'll be the most popular guy in the pen, bringing in taco bowls for everyone plus porn stars for movie night.

Posted by: wth at April 30, 2024 02:05 PM (v0R5T)

71 Perhaps Trump should dismiss his Secret Service detail and hire a militia.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (tSeat)
-

Or Trump can play it safer and have a spokesman stand right next to him while Trump remains silent, with the spokesman saying everything on Trump's mind about the trial.

If Garrett Morris was MAGA, he'd be great!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 02:05 PM (tSeat)

72 I will laugh if Trump wins the election and using the same legal standards that were used against him arrests hundreds of Dem office holders across the country.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2024 02:05 PM (ibTVg)

73 I actually feel sorry for Trump. So talented and with such a spine of steel they had to take openly extreme measures to stop him from beating their ass. Three times.

All they needed with Romney was a few choice phrases and one recording.

Trump could have just allowed himself to be bought by the enemy, for the low low price of our ass, and time and again he won't.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (LH3Hv)

74 IANAL, but doesn't a gag order have to apply to EVERYONE involved in a trial? And if a gag order is applied, does the jury get sequestered and the press held to the gag order, too?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (SRRAx)

75 If some really, really evil Fate befell that kangaroo judge and his c*** daughter, I would LMAO.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (8zz6B)

76
The judge's daughter runs Authentic Campaigns, a democrat PAC which has raised over $93 million for candidates like Adam Schiff and the senate majority PAC.

Posted by: Thomas Paine

Raised over $93 million since this trial was scheduled.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (lTGtQ)

77 I haven't kept up with his writing in a very long time, but I'd be willing to bet that he has an essay from, say, 1-2 years ago that says the case is super serious and needs consideration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

The is an odd confluence among the NE pundits. On the one hand, they seem to realize on some level that this is really bad and epoch shifting. On the other, they seem to be influenced by both their own hatred of Trump which seems to be innate and ingrained and then that is reinforced because all of them seem to be the same person, so they see the views reflected back to them by everyone they talk to in meat space.

It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (di6C2)

78 What we need is DAs across the country to bring charges against any Dem politicians they can. As many as possible.

And don't forget the lying whores in the MFM.

Mutually assured destruction is the only way.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (1bNHn)

79 But guys, the left is like totally afraid of stealing the election because reasons.

Posted by: Montec

Aren't you missing the Nuremburg Rally?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)

80 Now imagine if the whole of the GOPe party had the balls of Trump as opposed to a handful of them...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (ibTVg)

81 Or Trump can play it safer and have a spokesman stand right next to him while Trump remains silent, with the spokesman saying everything on Trump's mind about the trial.

If Garrett Morris was MAGA, he'd be great!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole l

Bring in Paul Heyman!!!!

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (CIS44)

82 67 But guys, the left is like totally afraid of stealing the election because reasons.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (tpjlM)

IKR

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (IFNME)

83 Fined $9K for gag order violations. Peanuts for him but he’s being held accountable and that’s the point

the law does allow escalating penalties, hence the warning about incarceration. I get the distinct feeling judge merchan has had his fill of Smelvis' antics. I'd love to see him nail the dumpster fire with 48 hours of solitary confinement, to be served over the weekend so as to maximize his isolation and really drive home how the dipshitosaurus ain't running this show.

Trump didn't get what he wanted. Many say he wants jail to use as a campaign issue and poor me focus....a huge distraction off facts of case too...tRump thinks it will mobilize protesters for tRump as well...

Trump has been ordered by the court to pay the money by Friday and remove seven offending posts from his Truth Social account, and two posts from his campaign website by 2:00 today. If the posts are removed, trump's backed down and lost any initiative he may have had.

He won't comply. Not because he wants to go to jail, but because he thinks he’s too important to have to comply with a court order that he views as illegitimate.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (JCZqz)

84 77 It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (di6C2)

========

I at least acknowledge that my information space is a bubble.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

85 Did they ever find Adam Schiff's luggage?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (/Xhke)

86 The left is somehow convinced these persecutions are the ultimate Propaganda. It's bewildering, because Americans of all parties (including even Democrats) see these attacks for what they really are, and hate them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (eFLnD)

87 but doesn't a gag order have to apply to EVERYONE involved in a trial? And if a gag order is applied, does the jury get sequestered and the press held to the gag order, too?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (SRRAx)

During the OJ trial there was a gag order against 2 of the detectives and nobody else involved.

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (tpjlM)

88 Yesterday we got the twilight zone. Today it's Rip Van Winkle.

What's next?

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (1bNHn)

89 What we need is DAs across the country to bring charges against any Dem politicians they can. As many as possible.

If the GOPe was an actual opposition party this would have happened the day charges against Trump were formally filed.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (ibTVg)

90 21 I am more and more convinced that Trump will be in jail before Election Month begins
Posted by: Don Black at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (/7KEl)

...and he'll win the election from a jail cell, if it comes to that.

If he writes a "Letter from a Downtown Manhattan Jail", he'll go down in the annals of politics as a legend.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (96vC3)

91 I was just about to say the same thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (di6C2)

#MeToo!
Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (T+Iwg)

Fuck you, Amy.

I have moved on to calf lifts. They also suck.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (di6C2)

92 The jury is likely more hangman than any jury of racist southern Democrats sitting on a trial of a black man accused of r*ping a white woman in 1860 in Alabama.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (iFTx/)

You could have just said Democrats twice.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (LH3Hv)

93 ... He won't comply. Not because he wants to go to jail, but because he thinks he’s too important to have to comply with a court order that he views as illegitimate.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (JCZqz)
++++
LOL. Kinda, actually. He's not complying with openly oppressive and illegal witch-hunts, and he's right to refuse.

But it's also great marketing for him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (HnUIn)

94 74 IANAL, but doesn't a gag order have to apply to EVERYONE involved in a trial? And if a gag order is applied, does the jury get sequestered and the press held to the gag order, too?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (SRRAx)

You seemed to be confusing this with a fair legal process.

They are going to do this and nothing can stop them.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (IFNME)

95 If Trump is jailed for this, I officially will no longer care what happens to New York City. Escape from New York is too good for it.

Posted by: American Hawkman at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (skAOD)

96 And there is still another motion for sanctions pending.
Where the prosecution claims Trump threatened Pecker.
By saying, "be nice."

Except they entirely fabricated the quote.

Actual quote was, "he's (Pecker) a nice guy."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (yikga)

97
Or Trump can play it safer and have a spokesman stand right next to him while Trump remains silent, with the spokesman saying everything on Trump's mind about the trial.

If Garrett Morris was MAGA, he'd be great!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 02:05 PM (tSeat)

I believe the order specifically says he cannot have a spokesperson say anything either.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (aDuEM)

98 This Merchan judge needs some social Justice visited on him.

Posted by: Puddinhead at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (BjRQH)

99 92 The jury is likely more hangman than any jury of racist southern Democrats sitting on a trial of a black man accused of r*ping a white woman in 1860 in Alabama.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 30, 2024 02:04 PM (iFTx/)

You could have just said Democrats twice.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (LH3Hv)

He did.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (di6C2)

100 @42

>>Even McCarthy at National Cucks Online thinks the case is a sham: https://rb.gy/ar8biz

They're all shams, a decade of the greatest, most extensive, LE/IC/Deep State Proctological Exam any human has undergone and they still have to make sh*t up, throw it against the wall and hope it sticks.

If by some miracle Trump wins, I pray he becomes Colossus and stamps the ever living loving sh*t out of these animals.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (JIdXK)

101 Did they ever find Adam Schiff's luggage?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Have they looked in Tranny Atomic Dog Boy's house?

Oh, wait. Schiff's a guy, so I guess that doesn't work.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (9yWhg)

102 Juan Merchan - Wikipedia
Juan Manuel Merchan. 1962 or 1963 (age 61-62) Bogotá, Colombia. Education. Baruch College ( BBA) Hofstra University (JD) Juan Manuel Merchan [1] (born 1962/1963) [2] is an American [rolmao] judge and former prosecutor. He is an acting justice of the New York State Supreme Court in New York County

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (lCWOD)

103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (tpjlM)

104 If he writes a "Letter from a Downtown Manhattan Jail", he'll go down in the annals of politics as a legend.

Dammit, I was gonna make a similar joke but I hesitated. Why did I hesitate?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (CsUN+)

105 10 >Corrupt Judge Fines Trump $9,000 For Criticizing the Prosecution and Its Witnesses, Threatens Jail Time

---

it begins

this is how you get the public ready to see Trump in jail
Posted by: Don Black
-------
They are failing and doing so will simply make political matter worse. BTW, the 9k fine now gives Trump standing to challenge the gag order constitutionally including federal courts for first amendment violations.

Merchan, is a rent a thug judge and apparently like Bragg is a legal genius in his own mind. It was always better to threaten than to actually pull the trigger and try to enforce his ridiculous anti First Amendment gag order.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (peJ7P)

106 Yesterday we got the twilight zone. Today it's Rip Van Winkle.

What's next?
Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (1bNHn)
++++
Both. "The Rip Van Winkle Caper," season 2, episode 24.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (HnUIn)

107 Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (eFLnD)

They are happy just to sap his time and energy. Same as Russia, the impeachments etc.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (LH3Hv)

108 2016-2020: Dissent is the height of patriotism! She persisted!

2021-: How DARE Trump dare question our president?!? And he is persisting?!?!

Posted by: The left at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (ibTVg)

109 55 I volunteer to do Trump's time in jail as Judge Merchan's Trump hostage.
Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (bC3yW)

It would be incredible if that actually happened in NYC. It wouldn't surprise me, come to think of it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (96vC3)

110 Trump needs to hire that sign language guy with all the flourishes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (/Xhke)

111 "the corrupt judge in the laughable business records case threatens Trump with jail..."

This is the laughable hush money case though, right?

Posted by: bearski at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Bhsk7)

112 I'm wondering if SCOTUS might weigh in and not allow Trump to be jailed ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Akjoo)

113 Juan Merchan - Wikipedia
Juan Manuel Merchan. 1962 or 1963 (age 61-62) Bogotá, Colombia. Education.

He's just imprisoning the opposition political leaders American won't. Really it is an act of love.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (ibTVg)

114 Did they ever find Adam Schiff's luggage?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Why no, I don't believe they have, why do you ask?
~Samuel Brinton

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (1dCUq)

115 And there is still another motion for sanctions pending.
Where the prosecution claims Trump threatened Pecker.
By saying, "be nice."

Except they entirely fabricated the quote.

Actual quote was, "he's (Pecker) a nice guy."

You think that's bad...

Posted by: Walter Peck at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CsUN+)

116 Don't.

Posted by: President Hodor at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (+dbMF)

117 He did.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (di6C2)

He likes Democrats.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (LH3Hv)

118 Harrumph!!

Posted by: Dem Judge Harrumph at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)

119 Merchan, is a rent a thug judge and apparently like Bragg is a legal genius in his own mind. It was always better to threaten than to actually pull the trigger and try to enforce his ridiculous anti First Amendment gag order.
Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (peJ7P)

He had to follow through on the threat. And now he will follow through on the threat to incarcerate.

This is always where this was going.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (IFNME)

120 109 55 I volunteer to do Trump's time in jail as Judge Merchan's Trump hostage.
Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (bC3yW)

It would be incredible if that actually happened in NYC. It wouldn't surprise me, come to think of it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (96vC3)

Huh. Proxy/whipping boy. Don't see that too often.

I nominate Jonah Goldberg. Oooo. Or Rick Wilson. Or any of the fedora guys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (di6C2)

121 Today Erik Larson' latest book, The Demon of Unrest, about the months leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War, was released. It has an opening note that begins . . .

"I was well into my research on the saga of Fort Sumter and the advent of the American Civil War when the events of January 6, 2021, took place. As I watched the Capitol assault unfold on camera, I had the eerie feeling that present and past had merged."

May I invite you to STFU? And this after I watched Howell Raines on C-SPAN discuss his book Silent Cavalry about cavalry troopers from northern Alabama who fought for the Union. Out of nowhere he launched into a rant about how Trump is reinstating Lost Cause myth of Confederate virtue. Yeah, under Trump the Confederacy will rise again!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (L/fGl)

122 Don't.
Posted by: President Hodor at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (+dbMF)

I snorted out loud.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (aD39U)

123 It's passed the 2pm deadline. Did Trump remove the posts?

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Hn5Yb)

124 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec

No, they actually don't know shit about politics nor public opinion and part of that is that the GOP has been complicit for so long that the Dems have forgotten how to appeal to actual voters instead of relying on cheating.

Basically, when you eliminate any contrary information sources from the media, polling, etc. from teh stream, you shoot yourself in the head as far as determining public opinion reax.

They also think Ham Ass and Trannies are a popular campaign item.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (peJ7P)

125 111 "the corrupt judge in the laughable business records case threatens Trump with jail..."

This is the laughable hush money case though, right?

-----------

Nevermind, guess they're the same. Got business records confused with classified documents... :-(

Posted by: bearski at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (Bhsk7)

126 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (tpjlM)

Before the J-6 trials, this would have automatically worked and been 100% true.

Now, I'm not so sure...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (exHjb)

127 I believe the order specifically says he cannot have a spokesperson say anything either.
Posted by: Just Lily at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (aDuEM)

Puppets. Get some good caricature puppets of made of merchan and his c*** daughter. Trump can cradle them in his arms, and let them chatter to each other. Would make for "must watch" TV.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (8zz6B)

128 I'm wondering if SCOTUS might weigh in and not allow Trump to be jailed ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Akjoo)
---
They'd need to command some divisions!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (krQz2)

129 He had to follow through on the threat. And now he will follow through on the threat to incarcerate.

This is always where this was going.
Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (IFNME)

They Want that image of Trump in an orange jumpsuit and in chains. They NEED it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (di6C2)

130 Trump needs to tell this judge to go F himself and stop validating this illegal shit by showing up. Enough is enough. Go out and campaign.

Posted by: JROD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (IlL6s)

131 121 Today Erik Larson' latest book, The Demon of Unrest, about the months leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War, was released. It has an opening note that begins . . .

"I was well into my research on the saga of Fort Sumter and the advent of the American Civil War when the events of January 6, 2021, took place. As I watched the Capitol assault unfold on camera, I had the eerie feeling that present and past had merged."

May I invite you to STFU? And this after I watched Howell Raines on C-SPAN discuss his book Silent Cavalry about cavalry troopers from northern Alabama who fought for the Union. Out of nowhere he launched into a rant about how Trump is reinstating Lost Cause myth of Confederate virtue. Yeah, under Trump the Confederacy will rise again!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
------
Perfect example of products produced in an echo chamber industry.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (peJ7P)

132 And James Carville is worried about mail order condoms and birth control pills.

"It's the economy stupid."

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (/Xhke)

133 This is the laughable hush money case though, right?
Posted by: bearski at April 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Bhsk7)

That's what the media calls it but the case is about how the payment is recorded in business records not about the fact it happened.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (IFNME)

134 It's my guess that if Trump is jailed, he will be the most popular inmate in the joint.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (CsUN+)
_____________

It's my guess/hope if he is jailed he'll win the election in a landslide.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

135 Did they ever find Adam Schiff's luggage?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Or his conscience?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (L/fGl)

136 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.
------------

His base will leave him like rats leaving a sinking ship.
Right. No problems at all.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (lCWOD)

137 129 They Want that image of Trump in an orange jumpsuit and in chains. They NEED it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (di6C2)

=========

I remember when the left was convinced that Trump's mugshot would be the killshot.

Trump raised money off of it, putting it on merch, and the left dropped it within a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

138 Today Erik Larson' latest book, The Demon of Unrest, about the months leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War, was released. It has an opening note that begins . . .

"I was well into my research on the saga of Fort Sumter and the advent of the American Civil War when the events of January 6, 2021, took place. As I watched the Capitol assault unfold on camera, I had the eerie feeling that present and past had merged."

May I invite you to STFU? And this after I watched Howell Raines on C-SPAN discuss his book Silent Cavalry about cavalry troopers from northern Alabama who fought for the Union. Out of nowhere he launched into a rant about how Trump is reinstating Lost Cause myth of Confederate virtue. Yeah, under Trump the Confederacy will rise again!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Even if the rest of those books were sound history, I would never read them for the TDS alone.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (9yWhg)

139 126 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (tpjlM)

Before the J-6 trials, this would have automatically worked and been 100% true.

Now, I'm not so sure...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (exHjb)

The First Rule of Polls:

Polls do not measure opinion. Polls shape opinion.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (96vC3)

140 As I told the spouse, it's obvious Dems started the college riots at Columbia so they could distract from Trump's trial news b/c they want him to lose but for no one to see what a farce it was...

But, they didn't count on crazy people going absolutely crazy, Soros and his money people having ulterior motives, and the insanity expanding everywhere.

So, now they are almost in a lose-lose. The only Trump stuff you here about is what Trump says b/c you have the college insanity in your ear 24-7...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (exHjb)

141 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (tpjlM)
---
I think that's probably true. Trump will lose some support if the kangaroos convict him. "Well, I guess he just as guilty as they say!"

However, that doesn't mean he's going to lose enough support, like say he might in a legitimate case.

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (krQz2)

142 130 Trump needs to tell this judge to go F himself and stop validating this illegal shit by showing up. Enough is enough. Go out and campaign.
Posted by: JROD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (IlL6s)

Exactly. If I had Trump's money, I could think of other ways to use it to achieve some actual justice, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (KSNKu)

143 130 Trump needs to tell this judge to go F himself and stop validating this illegal shit by showing up. Enough is enough. Go out and campaign.
Posted by: JROD
========
PDJT has his casus belli now to take to higher courts for an interlocutory appeal. Basically to challenge something like a gag order, you have to have real consequences like the 9k fine in order to get the attention of appellate state courts and federal courts.

Merchan is stupid as well as a legal ass.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (peJ7P)

144 We support the Donald!!!

Posted by: Felons who could not previously vote at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (w9Wax)

145 Shorter Marchan: "This heah couaht finds yew GUILTY! *bangs gavel*... now, how'd'ya plea, boy?"

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (e6UQI)

146 You assume Schiff ever had a conscience.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (/Xhke)

147 85 Did they ever find Adam Schiff's luggage?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (/Xhke)

No. It was snagged by a Chinese agent in the luggage sorting area and sent to Beijing on a Chinese diplomatic flight. As planned. IYKWIM

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (5fDan)

148
His base will leave him like rats leaving a sinking ship.
Right. No problems at all.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (lCWOD)

His base is maybe 30% of the electorate. They’ll stick with him through anything. But you need another 20% to win.

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (tpjlM)

149 127 I believe the order specifically says he cannot have a spokesperson say anything either.
Posted by: Just Lily at April 30, 2024 02:08 PM (aDuEM)

Puppets. Get some good caricature puppets of made of merchan and his c*** daughter. Trump can cradle them in his arms, and let them chatter to each other. Would make for "must watch" TV.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (8zz6B)

Triumph the Insult Comic Dog

Posted by: Just Lily at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (aDuEM)

150 They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec

No, they actually don't know shit about politics nor public opinion and part of that is that the GOP has been complicit for so long that the Dems have forgotten how to appeal to actual voters instead of relying on cheating.

If the Dems have it in the bag because they are so good at politics, why do they have to rely on cheating?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (CsUN+)

151 I remember when the left was convinced that Trump's mugshot would be the killshot.

Trump raised money off of it, putting it on merch, and the left dropped it within a week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

The jailed thing is more than that. They want that validation. They want that power. They want to jerk off to the thought of him being raped/killed in jail.

They are truly awful people. We really should stop treating them as anything else.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (di6C2)

152 Judge Merc.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (krQz2)

153 137 129 They Want that image of Trump in an orange jumpsuit and in chains. They NEED it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
------------------------

Masturbate they much

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (lCWOD)

154 Even McCarthy at National Cucks Online thinks the case is a sham: https://rb.gy/ar8biz
Posted by: Physics Geek

Ah, yes. Master of Esprit de l'escalier. Nothin' gets by that dude.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (IG4Id)

155 Polls do not measure opinion. Polls shape opinion.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

I hear Stormy Daniels is fond of polls.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)

156 Hey round eyed fart man steal my panties. My job over, no more love you long time fart man. Panties belong people of CCP.

Posted by: Fang Fang at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (ibTVg)

157 If the Dems have it in the bag because they are so good at politics, why do they have to rely on cheating?
Posted by: Archimede

It's called fortifying
-Time Magazine

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (CIS44)

158 They Want that image of Trump in an orange jumpsuit and in chains. They NEED it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (di6C2)

In a weird way I think it would actually hurt them. But I think it's all being done as the excuse to vaguely legitimize the steal.

Like, polling didn't matter because people were turned off by the jailing.

And another toilet broke. What can you do.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (LH3Hv)

159 When they jail Trump we will sit back and take it.

Posted by: blaster at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (IFNME)

160 87 but doesn't a gag order have to apply to EVERYONE involved in a trial? And if a gag order is applied, does the jury get sequestered and the press held to the gag order, too?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (SRRAx)

During the OJ trial there was a gag order against 2 of the detectives and nobody else involved.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:07 PM (tpjlM)

They were potential witnesse, though, not the defendant.

Has a defendant EVER been slapped with a gag order? Usually the defense attorneys tell their client to STFU so as not to incriminate themselves.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (SRRAx)

161 It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (di6C2)

In my case, this place moderates me. My positions with regards to a treasonous opposition party and a subversive press are well to the right of Pinochet.

My abortion stance is simple: it's baby killing.

My voting stance: Cheat and you're executed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Q0kLU)

162 151 The jailed thing is more than that. They want that validation. They want that power. They want to jerk off to the thought of him being raped/killed in jail.

They are truly awful people. We really should stop treating them as anything else.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (di6C2)

========

Oh, they are.

I just think it'll work out the same way as the mugshot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (GBKbO)

163 I saw this the other day and was trying to think of the best way this could be used in a meme:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6saaur

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (di6C2)

164 No, they actually don't know shit about politics nor public opinion and part of that is that the GOP has been complicit for so long that the Dems have forgotten how to appeal to actual voters instead of relying on cheating.

If the Dems have it in the bag because they are so good at politics, why do they have to rely on cheating?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:15 PM (CsUN+)
---
You say politics, I say manipulation--let's call the whole thing off.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (krQz2)

165 God-judge Merchan has deigned to let Trump attend his son's HS graduation. We thank you for your benevolence

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (UwmMe)

166 It's my guess that if Trump is jailed, he will be the most popular inmate in the joint.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:00 PM (CsUN+)
_____________

It's my guess/hope if he is jailed he'll win the election in a landslide.

That's my prediction. People don't like what they're seeing.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (CsUN+)

167 Be a shame if this judge fell down an elevator shaft into a pool of burning gasoline, and Bragg choked on a chicken bone from the All You Can Eat Fat Man's buffet.

Posted by: Vengeance at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (hjF3F)

168 @134

>>It's my guess/hope if he is jailed he'll win the election in a landslide.

I don't think that is functionally possible any longer, the Donks control too many electoral apparatuses in too many locales to for that to happen.

The most that can be hoped for is a slim EC vote win.

As was noted, in the recent PA Primary, the Meat Puppet Managed to garner just under 1M votes in what was essentially a useless primary, Trump by contrast was able to muster just under 800K votes.

The Donks simply want it more and have the apparatuses at their disposal to tabulate enough ballots to push their preferred NPC into the WH.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (JIdXK)

169 158 In a weird way I think it would actually hurt them. But I think it's all being done as the excuse to vaguely legitimize the steal.

Like, polling didn't matter because people were turned off by the jailing.

And another toilet broke. What can you do.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (LH3Hv)

========

It's going to be, "Yes, we fucking stole it. What the fuck are you going to do about it?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

170 Should have been $90k and jail time - Mike Johnson

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (aFNOf)

171 *pauses*

Kangaroo court in NY finds Trump guilty of state crimes.

Trump flees to Florida.

DeSantis refuses to extradite Trump and blasts NY.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (/Xhke)

172 If by some miracle Trump wins, I pray he becomes Colossus and stamps the ever living loving sh*t out of these animals.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (JIdXK)
_______________

THIS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (YqDXo)

173 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec

I've heard this song and dance before. Pussy, fine folks on both sides, Stormy....lots of things, when polled, will devastate Trump, and yet...he was elected (at least once), and gained almost 20% more voted during his reelection run.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (JCZqz)

174 The First Rule of Polls:

Polls do not measure opinion. Polls shape opinion.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
======
Used to, people are increasingly turning off the media and only people of a certain age are now watching the dying TV industry. Most people now kibitiz are get a bunch of this and that in their social media feeds. That also means much less engagement with the news rather than passively sitting and watching propaganda.

A funny story is that an American in China was asked by a native there about why Americans actually watch the news. The native said, in China, we assume all news is propaganda and ignore it as a waste of time.

I think we are at that point now--the media and Dems in office are screaming but people are tuning them out which leads to the left trying to make it up in sound volume and idiocy what they can no longer achieve by persuasion.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (peJ7P)

175 Judge Chamberlain Haller, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Be/+i)

176 It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:06 PM (di6C2)
---
Nope. I'm way passed being influenced like that.

I think what I think.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (krQz2)

177 Has a defendant EVER been slapped with a gag order? Usually the defense attorneys tell their client to STFU so as not to incriminate themselves.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (SRRAx)

If there was one, it might have been in a cartel-mafia case of a high level target - one where a whisper in the press from the big guy might cause witnesses to scatter or cease to exist. But I honestly would have to look that up, but I imagine it's happened...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (exHjb)

178 In my case, this place moderates me. My positions with regards to a treasonous opposition party and a subversive press are well to the right of Pinochet.

My abortion stance is simple: it's baby killing.

My voting stance: Cheat and you're executed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Q0kLU)

MP4, I love ya man (no homo) but you are black pill in human form. Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (di6C2)

179 "This heah couaht finds yew GUILTY! *bangs gavel*... now, how'd'ya plea, boy?"

Boy! boy! I say, boy!
Look at me when ahm talkin to ya, boy!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (95RVa)

180 Today Erik Larson' latest book, The Demon of Unrest, about the months leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War, was released. It has an opening note that begins . . .

Considering Larson wrote In The Garden of Beasts, about the American ambassador to Nazi Germany and should, ostensibly, know his history, he's just, with one simple trick, turned himself into a solipsistic, blinkered nickelfucker.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Q0kLU)

181 God-judge Merchan has deigned to let Trump attend his son's HS graduation. We thank you for your benevolence

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (UwmMe)
_______________

That's real white of him.

Deport Merchan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

182 If the Dems have it in the bag because they are so good at politics, why do they have to rely on cheating?
Posted by: Archimede

It's called fortifying
-Time Magazine

Cute, but it doesn't answer the question. I've been listening to people insisting for the last 2-3 years that the ONLY way the Dems could win is to cheat. If they're so good at politics, they don't need to take the political risks they're taking.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (CsUN+)

183 As I told the spouse, it's obvious Dems started the college riots at Columbia so they could distract from Trump's trial news b/c they want him to lose but for no one to see what a farce it was...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 30, 2024 02:14 PM (exHjb)
++++
Heh. He should take a field trip to Columbia. *Really* rile 'em up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)

184 Polls do not measure opinion. Polls shape opinion.

Posted by: Darrell Harris
---
Most Americans are for shoving a badger down the front of Donald Trump's pants, do you agree?

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (krQz2)

185 I saw this the other day and was trying to think of the best way this could be used in a meme:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6saaur
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (di6C2)

=====

I don't know about a meme, but...WANT.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (DRSnL)

186 Trump has been ordered by the court to pay the money by Friday and remove seven offending posts from his Truth Social account, and two posts from his campaign website by 2:00 today. If the posts are removed, trump's backed down and lost any initiative he may have had.

It's 2:20 now. Anybody with a Truth Social account care to check for us?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (/y8xj)

187 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Q0kLU)

Hope you're feeling better though it's more a hope against hope kind of thing.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (LH3Hv)

188 Almost like they really want/need Trump in an Epstein Prison environment!

Nah bro', that's crazy talk!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (iPhone version) at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (hOUT3)

189 Woo-woo-woo

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (IZc/C)

190 If by some miracle Trump wins, I pray he becomes Colossus and stamps the ever living loving sh*t out of these animals.

*********

Yes, less Trump who goes along to get along with RINOS like McConnell, Pence et all Trump

More Trump who decides fuck this shit and burns everything down Trump

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (zSez3)

191 If the Dems have it in the bag because they are so good at politics, why do they have to rely on cheating?
Posted by: Archimede

Why does a team which is up by 30 points still try to score touchdowns?

Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (tpjlM)

192 I don't know about a meme, but...WANT.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (DRSnL)

He's a cute puppy. Goldens are just awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (di6C2)

193 It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?

My politicial opinions are about what they've been for a long long time now.

When I talk with people I know that watch the FNM regularly though they've shifted radically - and this is both people that started off on the left or the right.

And whenever I catch an FNM infotainment show I am...amazed...as their coverage as little to nothing to do with the real world.

So, I don't think that AoS is affecting people but things like the FNM definitely do.

Posted by: Fang Fang at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (ibTVg)

194 The Donks simply want it more and have the apparatuses at their disposal to tabulate enough ballots to push their preferred NPC into the WH.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Not really anymore. I think we are probably looking at an 1860-61 scenario which is why the foreign countries like China, Qatar, etc. externally and Soros and the internal left are pushing the boundaries. The internal left want a fight that they did not get Jan 6. so that the flying monkey legion can be released to bring about utopia on Earth.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (peJ7P)

195 "This heah couaht finds yew GUILTY! *bangs gavel*... now, how'd'ya plea, boy?"

Boy! boy! I say, boy!
Look at me when ahm talkin to ya, boy!

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (95RVa)
_______________

I keep imagining the trial scene from Idiocracy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (YqDXo)

196 175 Judge Chamberlain Haller, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Be/+i)

Did you say "yoot"?

Posted by: Judge Haller at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (T+Iwg)

197 MPPPP

Art Spiegelman after writing and drawing Maus should know the evil of anti-Semitism and yet after 9/11 he was there worrying about backlash against Muslims.

Some people will never believe the truth until they are knocked off their asses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (/Xhke)

198 Trump should force that Judge to jail him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (i9ffA)

199 It's going to be, "Yes, we fucking stole it. What the fuck are you going to do about it?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

So you're thinking a repeat of 2020

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (LH3Hv)

200 Gosh, could a judge be any more fair and impartial than Judge Merchan?

This is obviously the most fair and reasonable trial in history!

The judge is bending over backwards to make sure Trump gets every advantage!

Not that I like that part, but, we must make sure those norms are restored!

Posted by: leftists NPC at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (tT6L1)

201 190 Yes, less Trump who goes along to get along with RINOS like McConnell, Pence et all Trump

More Trump who decides fuck this shit and burns everything down Trump
Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (zSez3)

=======

Follow through on Schedule F changes. Lock the doors. Don't let bureaucrats back in.

Start declaring unconstitutional laws unconstitutional and refuse to enforce them.

Go to war with Congress, day 1, saying that he won't sign any CR or budget that is above 1917 levels.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

202 It is always interesting to watch how people internalize what they hear from people. I wonder how many of us are affected just by coming here? Are we more extreme in our positions than we would be normally or are we actually moderated from what we would be in isolation?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I come here so I don't go batshit crazy from the progtards here in Seattle. I have found that I'm actually pretty conservative and I'm welcome to share my views here. If I opened my mouth here, it would not be pretty. I would never dare to wear a MAGA hat on the street, not even as an experiment and with protection.

But. I get to see whales from my bedroom window. And I can walk to the beach in less than a minute.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (sWSCC)

203 120 109 55 I volunteer to do Trump's time in jail as Judge Merchan's Trump hostage.
Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2024 02:02 PM (bC3yW)

It would be incredible if that actually happened in NYC. It wouldn't surprise me, come to think of it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (96vC3)

Huh. Proxy/whipping boy. Don't see that too often.

I nominate Jonah Goldberg. Oooo. Or Rick Wilson. Or any of the fedora guys.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (di6C2)
______
Do they know how to bend over and squeal like a tapir? They'd better learn.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (1bNHn)

204 He's a cute puppy. Goldens are just awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (di6C2)
_____________

They truly are, and proof God loves us.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (YqDXo)

205 Tons of people are cheering all this on because they've rightfully surmised that the short period of civilization and rule of law is over and their side was victorious in the aftermath. This is always the way it is. No one destroys the fragile balance in society thinking they'll be harmed.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (Y6IkP)

206 199 It's going to be, "Yes, we fucking stole it. What the fuck are you going to do about it?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

So you're thinking a repeat of 2020
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (LH3Hv)

======

I mean...it worked then without consequence. Why not try again?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

207 brett tolman, who was a fed prosecutor some years ago and worked with some senate repubs on committees, said recently on fox news or biz news that this is the first time in 30 years that he saw a gag order directed at a defendant.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (B1FKF)

208 This brunette in her underwear wonders if the leftists know that they're increasing Trump's popularity, or if they find it frustrating:
http://tiny.cc/htrwxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

209 98
‘This Merchan judge needs some social Justice visited on him.’

We may live to witness the total discrediting of the bench with judges like this fuck, Engeron and MacAfee.

I wonder whether this occurs to CJ Roberts?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (jbnUc)

210 The Left has Killed
Comedy
Sarcasm
The Courts
College
Movies
TV shows
Posted by: Patrick
--------

Why, it's as if there is a pattern...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (XeU6L)

211 He's a cute puppy. Goldens are just awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Puppies and boobs always cheer me up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (9yWhg)

212 Some people will never believe the truth until they are knocked off their asses.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (/Xhke)

Dropping truth bombs as always.

And even some of *them* still won't.

The will to not be wrong is a strong one.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (LH3Hv)

213 George Stephanopolous was just the tip of the spear

Yeah, that's what he told me at the Dem convention in Chicago in '96. I was young and impressionable, had a few drinks at the hotel bar with him, and wanted to impress him when he invited me up to his room "for dessert"...

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (JCZqz)

214 8 How would jail work ? Would his Secret Service have to be incarcerated too ?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2024 01:57 PM (Akjoo)

_____________________________

Just in the last week, the Democrats in congress started an effort to strip Trump of his SS detail.

Posted by: Orson at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (dIske)

215 Dear Mad Judge

It's a Banana Republic if you can keep it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 01:59 PM (/Xhke)

With shitty bananas.

Posted by: JT at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (T4tVD)

216 Juan "Kangaroo" Merchan.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (nOwFe)

217 Off, all the sox.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (T+Iwg)

218 Trump trying to get tossed in jail.

Posted by: Ribbed at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (/gwdq)

219 I mean...it worked then without consequence. Why not try again?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

They could at least change the theme song!

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (LH3Hv)

220 When I talk with people I know that watch the FNM regularly though they've shifted radically - and this is both people that started off on the left or the right.

And whenever I catch an FNM infotainment show I am...amazed...as their coverage as little to nothing to do with the real world.

So, I don't think that AoS is affecting people but things like the FNM definitely do.
Posted by: Fang Fang

You are discussing people that think themselves educated because they watch propaganda. Try talking to some of the folks at Waffle House as an alternative to your sound chamber.

There is a reason that ratings for networks are dying and that cable news is dying now too. People that work are too busy with their two to three jobs trying to stay ahead of inflation to watch silliness on the media.

Don't assume the old rules work anymore but it is always true that the avant garde radicals always end up becoming reactionaries by trying to prevent the very change that they sought in the first place.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (peJ7P)

221 Some people will never believe the truth until they are knocked off their asses.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (/Xhke)
------------------

One would like to think these people will eventually wake up, but, look no further than Solzhenitsyn and his story of meeting people in prison who said, "If only Stalin knew."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (tT6L1)

222 It's going to be, "Yes, we fucking stole it. What the fuck are you going to do about it?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

Nailed it. That's pretty much what is happening now, with active elected GOP assistance on an optics front that is not working out as intended. Other than an outburst of extraordinary, civil war-igniting violence, there literally is nothing to stop this from happening. Like all bullies, they will keep getting worse until they are hit in the mouth, at which time they will roll into a fetal position and whimper. Right-leaning people are too slow to accept this reality, witness the USSR and other forerunners.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (KSNKu)

223 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:19 PM (Q0kLU)

My abortion stance was "Ensoulment at three months" just to put something on the law-books and move on.
My stance on some rioters' occupation of property was -

Posted by: Emperor Justinian at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (gKWVE)

224 This brunette in her underwear wonders if the leftists know that they're increasing Trump's popularity, or if they find it frustrating:

She's too pale for that red.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (CsUN+)

225 103 Polling says if Trump is convicted he will lose support. So the left is betting putting him in jail, for any reason, will also diminish his support.

They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec at April 30, 2024 02:09 PM (tpjlM)

Trying and convicting Trump of anything is aimed at nailing-down the Karen and Julia votes. They expect the Karens and Julias will incessantly nag other women to not vote for a felon, especially a philanderer-felon.

See this DailyMail article

https://tinyurl.com/y6rh32sn

Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

-- Biden has hoped to beat Trump in part due to unpopularity with women
-- Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group
-- All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5fDan)

226 I saw this the other day and was trying to think of the best way this could be used in a meme:

https://tinyurl.com/5n6saaur
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:17 PM (di6C2)

=====

I don't know about a meme, but...WANT.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2024 02:20 PM (DRSnL)
____________

Me too. It is impossible to outcute a golden retriever puppy. Cannot be done.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

227 President Trump should tell the "judge" he will pay bofa..

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (4a+k3)

228 MP4, I love ya man (no homo) but you are black pill in human form. Lol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:18 PM (di6C2)

Thanks, Aetius, that made me laugh!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (Q0kLU)

229 Just in the last week, the Democrats in congress started an effort to strip Trump of his SS detail.
Posted by: Orson
------
Stupid that. Course the GOP is generally the stupid party and more or less a majority in office are probably anti Trump. So who knows.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (peJ7P)

230 http://tiny.cc/htrwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Cute face, but can't see her boobs. WNB without further research.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (9yWhg)

231 "I haven't kept up with his writing in a very long time, but I'd be willing to bet that he has an essay from, say, 1-2 years ago that says the case is super serious and needs consideration."

I started listening to his podcast because he lays out a lot of facts, and for this case he's said its a joke very consistently.

I've decided his sidekick seems more anti-Trump than Andy, but also its sometimes bringing up what the other side says to have Andy react to it.

You don't have to like some of the takes - but they may happen. (I sort of reluctantly started listening because, frankly, not a lot of decent coverage exists)

Posted by: Harun at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (c2WeP)

232 I come here so I don't go batshit crazy from the progtards here in Seattle. I have found that I'm actually pretty conservative and I'm welcome to share my views here. If I opened my mouth here, it would not be pretty. I would never dare to wear a MAGA hat on the street, not even as an experiment and with protection.

But. I get to see whales from my bedroom window. And I can walk to the beach in less than a minute.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (sWSCC)

So you are being influenced, just not in an overt way, more... I hate using this word, but affirmational. There is a stress build up associated with feeling like you are alone. This place relieves that, I think- especially for our folks in the blue state hell complex. For nothing else, ace has done a good thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (di6C2)

233 brett tolman, who was a fed prosecutor some years ago and worked with some senate repubs on committees, said recently on fox news or biz news that this is the first time in 30 years that he saw a gag order directed at a defendant.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 30, 2024 02:22 PM (B1FKF)
---
Remember the outrage when Trump used to do something UNPRECEDENTED?!!

Now, it's all, we know it's unprecedented--but warranted by Mr. Neutron Orangemanbad.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (krQz2)

234 my main regret is that most of us will be gone, very likely in unpleasant ways, before the leftists who take over start turning on each other

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (B1FKF)

235 One correction in a sea of needed ones:

@MZHemingway 7m
Democrat attorney Marc Elias, who ran the Russia collusion scam of 2016 and the 2020 effort to get rid of anti-fraud measures, said that this was one of the most importance cases of the year. Big loss for him and his people.

@joshgerstein 3h
JUST IN: On a 9-4 vote, 3rd Circuit denies en banc review in PA case about whether date requirement for absentee ballots is enforceable Doc:

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (IG4Id)

236 As a true Socialist, the Judge lamented that he was limited to a $1000 fine and not able to charge Trump more since he is wealthy.
---
That alone is proof of bias by the judge.

Because it used to be a well-known rule that sanctions or damages must be assessed regardless of the party's ability to pay.

I wish I could fine you more because your conduct was egregious is proper.
I wish I could fine you more because you can afford it is blatant bias and an improper basis.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 30, 2024 02:26 PM (yikga)

237 But. I get to see whales from my bedroom window.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2024 02:21 PM (sWSCC)
-

Georgia coastline and Stacey Abrams?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 30, 2024 02:26 PM (tSeat)

238 Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

-- Biden has hoped to beat Trump in part due to unpopularity with women
-- Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group
-- All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted
Posted by: Gref
-----
If you think those were genuine undecided voters, pull the other one. I'll bet they have a long history of voting in the Dem primary when their voting history is checked out.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:26 PM (peJ7P)

239 Juan "Kangaroo" Merchan.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2024 02:23 PM (nOwFe)
______________

Trump should show up wearing a kangaroo suit, just to watch Judge Wetback have a stroke.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:26 PM (YqDXo)

240 One would like to think these people will eventually wake up, but, look no further than Solzhenitsyn and his story of meeting people in prison who said, "If only Stalin knew."

Another one comes from the Nazis' own concentration camps. One of the political prisoners, ie not a Nazi but not Jewish or such, became a camp kapo. She was vicious to the other prisoners.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (/Xhke)

241 >>>They know how to do politics.
Posted by: Montec
---------------------

They know how to cheat.
Everything they do is a lie. Every print word about them is a lie.
From mid-last century till today they have accomplished nothing in truth. Their work is perfecting the lie. They are a sham hollowing out this nation.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (lCWOD)

242 My ideology became more radicalized when the question arose whether any run of the mill lefty could weigh a case in the facts alone and not feeeeeelings and orange man bad

I genuinely believe if I sat on a jury I could not convict the likes of Fucksi, Pedo Joe, etc if the case against them was not airtight, otherwise I’d never be able to sleep again

I can’t vote to convict someone just because I despise them

The left have no such moral boundary

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (zSez3)

243 Just in the last week, the Democrats in congress started an effort to strip Trump of his SS detail.
Posted by: Orson

Do eet. Trump hires ex-Navy Seals. Not beholden to the government's pussy-assed ROE.

Do eeet. He dares you.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (9wVL0)

244 Don't call my bluff, Mr. Trump!

Posted by: Judge Juan (I want to be an Hawiian Federal Judge, Joe!" Merchan at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (5fDan)

245 That alone is proof of bias by the judge.

Because it used to be a well-known rule that sanctions or damages must be assessed regardless of the party's ability to pay.

I wish I could fine you more because your conduct was egregious is proper.
I wish I could fine you more because you can afford it is blatant bias and an improper basis.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
=======
I want that ignorant popinjay judge to pop off like that. Simply more facts for appealing the unconstitutional order.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (peJ7P)

246 235 @joshgerstein 3h
JUST IN: On a 9-4 vote, 3rd Circuit denies en banc review in PA case about whether date requirement for absentee ballots is enforceable Doc:
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (IG4Id)

=========

In 2020, SCOTUS told the PA Secretary of State to separate ballots received on time and those received late because those received late were not eligible to be counted according to state law.

The PA SoS mixed them together and counted them all.

SCOTUS did nothing. In fact, they refused a case from Texas that would have had direct bearing on the actions.

Why should PA decide to follow the law this time?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

247 Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

-- Biden has hoped to beat Trump in part due to unpopularity with women
-- Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group
-- All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted
Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5fDan)

Seven hired actresses, saying the lines they were given.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (8zz6B)

248 If you think those were genuine undecided voters, pull the other one. I'll bet they have a long history of voting in the Dem primary when their voting history is checked out.

Yup, the same people who clearly and unequivocally acknowledge that the MSM is a pack of lying hacks, will, for some reason, use what they say as an attempt to win an argument.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (CsUN+)

249 All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted
Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5fDan)

This, my friend, is called a psy op.

CNN's "undecided" voters are about as "undecided" as Amy Schumer locked in a room with a sandwich.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (LH3Hv)

250 my main regret is that most of us will be gone, very likely in unpleasant ways, before the leftists who take over start turning on each other

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (B1FKF)
________________

Maybe, but leftists are notoriously fractious. It'll be the Judean People's Liberation Front vs. the Liberation Front for the People of Judea in a cage match.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (YqDXo)

251 DeSantis refuses to extradite Trump and blasts NY.

"Blast NY? Like, with a cumshot?" - Hillary Clinton after a lot of booze

Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (2ocoG)

252 Cannabis is currently classified along with drugs like heroin and LSD. The DEA is expected to reschedule it into a category that includes Tylenol and steroids.

Posted by: SMOD at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (RHGPo)

253 Seven hired actresses, saying the lines they were given.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Some women will do anything with their mouth for money and attention.

Posted by: Empress Theodora at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (gKWVE)

254 No one destroys the fragile balance in society thinking they'll be harmed.
Posted by: banana Dream
--------

I may hve been wrong about that...

Posted by: Robespierre at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (XeU6L)

255 Communist News Network

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (/Xhke)

256 249 This, my friend, is called a psy op.

CNN's "undecided" voters are about as "undecided" as Amy Schumer locked in a room with a sandwich.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (LH3Hv)

=========

"We were convinced."
-The Entire GOP Consultancy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

257 230 http://tiny.cc/htrwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Cute face, but can't see her boobs. WNB without further research.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (9yWhg)

Has a slightly pasty face heroin/meth air thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (di6C2)

258 ... There is a stress build up associated with feeling like you are alone. ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (di6C2)
++++
That's the point of propaganda: to make you feel isolated.

"I don't like this, but I'm the only one who thinks that. Everyone around me is down with the program, and I am truly a freak. This is so bad. I am alone and filled with despair."

Propaganda is also about providing the NPCs with the new firmware revision, but that's not the primary point. The primary purpose is to isolate the enemy and cast him into anomie and despair.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)

259 NY jurists are dog shit. They let criminals out a jail the innocent. The court system is nothing but a corrupt enforcement arm of the Democrat Party. The state is a toilet. No small wonder why they continue to be the number one state people are leaving. If they jail Trump, may the illegal immigrants burn that shithole to the ground.

Posted by: Vengeance at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (zD1Id)

260 I don't think Merchan will jail Trump, Secret Service might object, but given the tyranny I wouldn't be surprised if he directed Trump to be bound and gagged like Bobby Seale in the Chicago trial

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (UwmMe)

261 OK, work day is over, drink day has begun.

See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (Q0kLU)

262 Some women will do anything with their mouth for money and attention.

"Drag a $100 bill through a trailer park." - Felonious von Pantsuit

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (/Xhke)

263 "The Entire GOP Consultancy"

Where are those guys, anyway?

Posted by: Ribbed at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (/gwdq)

264 Cannabis is currently classified along with drugs like heroin and LSD. The DEA is expected to reschedule it into a category that includes Tylenol and steroids.

The Feds blasting through all of these commie-friendly orders all of the sudden doesn't exactly speak to their confidence in the outcome of the election.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (2ocoG)

265 http://tiny.cc/htrwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Finally, something for us legs-n-ass fans. And properly packaged. Approved.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (pgwxJ)

266 Cannabis is currently classified along with drugs like heroin and LSD. The DEA is expected to reschedule it into a category that includes Tylenol and steroids.
Posted by: SMOD at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (RHGPo)

Cannabis, Tylenol and Steroids.

Or as I like to call it, Wednesday.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:31 PM (LH3Hv)

267 "We were convinced."
-The Entire GOP Consultancy

We'd better get on board with amnesty.

Posted by: Also The Entire GOP Consultancy at April 30, 2024 02:31 PM (CsUN+)

268 CNN's "undecided" voters are about as "undecided" as Amy Schumer locked in a room with a sandwich.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (LH3Hv)

Is the sandwich liverwurst? Cause I could understand.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:31 PM (di6C2)

269 264 The Feds blasting through all of these commie-friendly orders all of the sudden doesn't exactly speak to their confidence in the outcome of the election.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (2ocoG)

========

I see it as the administration being staffed with True Believers who will use their power in the bureaucracy to advance their interests no matter the period in time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

270 Finally, something for us legs-n-ass fans. And properly packaged. Approved.
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (pgwxJ)
++++
LOL. Sadly, pics like that usually involve thongs. This one is an oddity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (HnUIn)

271 I don't think Merchan will jail Trump, Secret Service might object, but given the tyranny I wouldn't be surprised if he directed Trump to be bound and gagged like Bobby Seale in the Chicago trial

Better still.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (CsUN+)

272 I see it as the administration being staffed with True Believers who will use their power in the bureaucracy to advance their interests no matter the period in time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 30, 2024 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
---------------

Getting things done knowing their time may be short.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

273 Finally, something for us legs-n-ass fans. And properly packaged. Approved.
Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 30, 2024 02:30 PM (pgwxJ)

https://tinyurl.com/yc6924b9

Joe is bringing bush league energy today.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (di6C2)

274 Trump needs to tell this judge to go F himself and stop validating this illegal shit by showing up. Enough is enough. Go out and campaign.
Posted by: JROD at April 30, 2024 02:12 PM (IlL6s)

Exactly what I have been saying. Retreat to his Florida compound, hire a mercenary army and tell Judge Fucknuts to "come and get me". Maybe ask a few thousand supporters show up for, uh, support. Maybe Vinnie Boombatz from the construction union can round up a few "supporters".

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (iODuv)

275 Some women will do anything with their mouth for money and attention.

Posted by: Empress Theodora at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (gKWVE)
________________

"Why is everyone looking at me?" - Kamala Harris

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

276 "Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group"

North Carolina is next on the shithole list. It's filing up with women like that who want to put their sons in dresses and are more concerned with being able to kill their babies, than anything else. Adios NC.

Posted by: Vengeance at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (zD1Id)

277 LOL. Sadly, pics like that usually involve thongs. This one is an oddity.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the garters.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (CsUN+)

278 LOL. Sadly, pics like that usually involve thongs. This one is an oddity.

Not seeing the issue here...

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at April 30, 2024 02:32 PM (pgwxJ)

279 See this DailyMail article

https://tinyurl.com/y6rh32sn

Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5fDan)

=====

"Undecided" my ass.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (DRSnL)

280 Every day Trump is in this bastard's courtroom should be appealed to the next highest level. Drown them in lawfare paperwork for a change.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (BaZnq)

281 238 Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

-- Biden has hoped to beat Trump in part due to unpopularity with women
-- Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group
-- All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted
Posted by: Gref
-----
If you think those were genuine undecided voters, pull the other one. I'll bet they have a long history of voting in the Dem primary when their voting history is checked out.

Yep. CNN was burned a while back by a focus group of undecided voters. A majority told the host they were going to vote for Trump. The host was gob-smacked. I expect CNN learned the lesson. Select hard-core Democrat 'undecided' voters.

Posted by: Judge Juan (I want to be an Hawiian Federal Judge, Joe! at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (5fDan)

282 Out of nowhere he launched into a rant about how Trump is reinstating Lost Cause myth of Confederate virtue. Yeah, under Trump the Confederacy will rise again!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 30, 2024 02:11 PM (L/fGl)

We just want to be left alone.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (w6EFb)

283 Bidet IRS wants to target whites more heavily in taxes in the name of equality.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=156161

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (/Xhke)

284 240 One would like to think these people will eventually wake up, but, look no further than Solzhenitsyn and his story of meeting people in prison who said, "If only Stalin knew."
======

That happened because the Reds won the Revolution, more or less, because the peasants viewed them as sucking less than the Whites which were divided in their war aims. Stalin got his internal slaughter machine running only after he consolidated control of the state and other than the random terror to encourage the others, it was aimed primarily at his perceived political enemies of stature.

A bit of a different situation here due to history and culture. We are more likely to have something like the English Civil War or the French Revolution than the Russian or Chinese model.

AH Lloyd's Long Live Death gives a glimpse at the political deterioration of the Spanish polity before that aborted Revolution. The leftists seized federal power in a coup but still have not consolidated their power at the state level and at the national level. Makes it difficult to establish the camps and even more difficult when teh junta is viewed as feckless, incompetent, and corrupt.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (peJ7P)

285 Nood.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 30, 2024 02:34 PM (tT6L1)

286 Reliving reconstruction sucks.

Posted by: Puddinhead at April 30, 2024 02:34 PM (BjRQH)

287 This is nothing but lawfare to kneecap an opponent of the current regime.

Treating it with anything but contempt is foolish.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at April 30, 2024 02:34 PM (7Ozoq)

288 Bidet IRS wants to target whites more heavily in taxes in the name of equality. ...
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (/Xhke)
++++
Sure. I mean, it's flatly illegal, but whatever.

With race-based pricing inevitably joining income-based pricing, they sure will manage to disincentivize production.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (HnUIn)

289 224 This brunette in her underwear wonders if the leftists know that they're increasing Trump's popularity, or if they find it frustrating:

She's too pale for that red.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (CsUN+)
______
I guess she should take it off then.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (1bNHn)

290 @269

>>I see it as the administration being staffed with True Believers who will use their power in the bureaucracy to advance their interests no matter the period in time.

As was noted, all organizations be it the FBI or the Church Temperance Committee are, fundamentally, organisms, and organisms function to protect themselves, grow and thrive and they will fight against any attempts to curtail them by any means necessary.

The only way to kill an organization is to eradicate it completely.

Anything less is masturbation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (JIdXK)

291 Yep. CNN was burned a while back by a focus group of undecided voters. A majority told the host they were going to vote for Trump. The host was gob-smacked. I expect CNN learned the lesson. Select hard-core Democrat 'undecided' voters.
Posted by: Judge Juan (I want to be an Hawiian Federal Judge, Joe! at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (5fDan)
---
They want the people who haven't decided whether they want to vote FOR Biden or just really, really AGAINST Trump.

And are willing to hear arguments on either side.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (krQz2)

292 Presentation is everything. Sometimes suggestive is better than overt.

I'm Aetius451AD and this is my Master Class.

https://tinyurl.com/277k2j2u

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (di6C2)

293 off sock

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (5fDan)

294 It's a Banana Republic if you can keep it.
Posted by: Anna Puma
--------------

Come, Mr. Tallyman, tally me banana.
Day old, day ay ay old
Day old bananas

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:35 PM (lCWOD)

295 Yep. CNN was burned a while back by a focus group of undecided voters. A majority told the host they were going to vote for Trump. The host was gob-smacked. I expect CNN learned the lesson. Select hard-core Democrat 'undecided' voters.
Posted by: Judge Juan (I want to be an Hawiian Federal Judge, Joe! at April 30, 2024 02:33 PM (5fDan)

Concur. Only a drool cup wearing idiot would believe anything the media says especially CNN.

Drool Cup Wearing Idiot.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2024 02:36 PM (4a+k3)

296 What we need is proportional voting.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:37 PM (lCWOD)

297 Yep. CNN was burned a while back by a focus group of undecided voters. A majority told the host they were going to vote for Trump. The host was gob-smacked. I expect CNN learned the lesson. Select hard-core Democrat 'undecided' voters.
Posted by: Judge Juan

CNN is now down to preaching to the remaining shrinking boomer and silent audience. The real energy is MSDNC and Fox is becoming the middle of the road choice which is why the Murdochs had no problem in getting rid of a lot of conservatives there. There are only so many strategies that one can do in a shrinking media market. One is to maximize the remaining tv audience which is what Fox appears to be doing, grab ahold of your target audience selectively which is what MSDNC is doing by clearly staking out its position as leftist, or to simply wither and die which is what CNN is doing and has been doing since Zucker days.

This time, MSDNC and CNN are not getting the Trump bump like they had in 2016 or 2020. Even leftists get tired of the same Orange Man Bad crap repeated ad infinitum.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:38 PM (peJ7P)

298 It's my guess/hope if he is jailed he'll win the election in a landslide.

-
Trump is punk rock.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 30, 2024 02:39 PM (L/fGl)

299 This time, MSDNC and CNN are not getting the Trump bump like they had in 2016 or 2020. Even leftists get tired of the same Orange Man Bad crap repeated ad infinitum.
Posted by: whig at April 30,
----------------------

That blood is all scabby. They want fresh blood.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2024 02:39 PM (lCWOD)

300
USA Today, Suspect named, 2 people being questioned after 4 officers killed serving warrant in NC, Christopher Cann, Trevor Hughes, N'dea Yancey-Bragg, Updated 2:26 pm

Around 1:30 p.m. Monday, officers with the U.S. Marshals Task Force arrived at a home in a suburb of Charlotte to serve several active warrants against 39-year-old Terry Clark Hughes Jr., who was wanted for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and two counts of fleeing to elude, according to the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department.

Two of the slain task force members, Sam Poloche and Alden Elliott, were employed by the the state's Department of Adult Correction for 14 years, a statement from the department said.

U.S. Marshals Deputy Thomas M. Weeks Jr., 48, of Mooresville, North Carolina, was killed in the shooting, the agency said in a statement. Weeks, a husband and the father of four children, was a 13-year veteran of the Marshals Service.

After hours in the hospital, Joshua Eyer, a six-year veteran of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, died from his injuries. Eyer was married and had a 3-year-old son.

But Terry, just a very long rap sheet going back at least a decade.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 30, 2024 02:40 PM (NFX2v)

301 BTW, back in the day, Sinn Fein established a parallel government in Ireland after the 1916 rising. The point being to give the country an alternative to British rule, and experience governing itself ahead of full independence. This sort of walking away is long-established as "Irish Democracy."

Can't the South start something like this? Have the governors establish some sort of interstate organization to coordinate laws and establish heuristics on currency and defense, in preparation for the coming crackup.

Stay short of Federal responsibilities, until the Federal government renege on its responsibilities, at which point it takes over....

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at April 30, 2024 02:40 PM (7Ozoq)

302 247 Seven undecided women voters from North Carolina tell CNN what they REALLY think of Donald Trump as they weigh in on whether he could be president

-- Biden has hoped to beat Trump in part due to unpopularity with women
-- Seven undecided female North Carolina voters spoke in a CNN focus group
-- All of them said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he were ever convicted
Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5fDan)

Seven hired actresses, saying the lines they were given.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 30, 2024 02:28 PM (8zz6B)
_______
Maybe, but I doubt it. I've gotten my wife to say she'll vote for Trump. But she really doesn't want to. My brother and I have given up on our sister.

Many, many women really, deeply dislike him.

I don't like that, but it's silly to ignore it. I just have to keep working on the Mrs.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:40 PM (1bNHn)

303 >>> I can’t vote to convict someone just because I despise them

The left have no such moral boundary
Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at April 30, 2024 02:27 PM (zSez3)

I've been in more than one jury where the defendant was absolute scum that I'd be inclined to shoot on site if I found them messing around burglarin'. But I voted not guilty because the state's case was terrible, multiple screw ups, and I most definitely had reasonable doubt.

I'd rather they were off the street but not by any injustice I'm complicit in. Damn the prosecutors for making it a mess.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 30, 2024 02:41 PM (Y6IkP)

304 296 What we need is proportional voting.
Posted by: Braenyard

Minarchism is the way. Even many states and some major cities are effectively too large to govern. Simply put, large organizations generally suck and the pathological mental cases end up running things whether in ngos, govt, or corporations. Boeing is an example of the latter as is how the Salvation Army decided to kill its appeal to its small donors.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:42 PM (peJ7P)

305 258 ... There is a stress build up associated with feeling like you are alone. ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 30, 2024 02:25 PM (di6C2)
++++
That's the point of propaganda: to make you feel isolated.

"I don't like this, but I'm the only one who thinks that. Everyone around me is down with the program, and I am truly a freak. This is so bad. I am alone and filled with despair."

Propaganda is also about providing the NPCs with the new firmware revision, but that's not the primary point. The primary purpose is to isolate the enemy and cast him into anomie and despair.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)
______
That is correct. I happen to be immune because I LIKE being unpopular. Really. Helped a lot in the earlier protest days of my youth. I even took to wearing a coat and tie to class, to piss off the hippies.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2024 02:45 PM (1bNHn)

306 I think the leftards are too terrified Trump is going to win to want to watch anything about him. Remember the wankfest they had in 2016 laughing about how bad he was going to lose to The Hag.

There's a saying in Texas maybe it's in Tennessee but it's also in Texas.

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:47 PM (LH3Hv)

307 The Left has Killed
Comedy
Sarcasm
The Courts
College
Movies
TV shows
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
-------
Free speech
Genders
The meaning of words
Race relations
Self reliance
Traditions
Honor

They have everything they want yet are still misery filled, power seizers.

Posted by: scampydog at April 30, 2024 02:47 PM (2bFN5)

308 Shit, are we supposed to find people in here who like and agree with us?

Posted by: ... at April 30, 2024 02:48 PM (LH3Hv)

309 Afroman's new song- "Hunter Got High"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLD1yhxNik

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at April 30, 2024 02:48 PM (iNp3L)

310 Maybe, but I doubt it. I've gotten my wife to say she'll vote for Trump. But she really doesn't want to. My brother and I have given up on our sister.

Many, many women really, deeply dislike him.

I don't like that, but it's silly to ignore it. I just have to keep working on the Mrs.
Posted by: Eeyore
------
If you care to dig into specifics in opinion polling, it may be your experience but certainly is not universal.

Basically it depends on the state, the degree of SES, and marriage status. Single women vote predominately for Dems but single men are becoming increasingly enamored of the right for example.

But, it appears that the non college attendees are moving to the right because they are suffering crime, inflation, and economic uncertainty and that includes women. The higher the SES, including going to college, the more that they vote for the Dems because they are more comfortable.

Basically the party bases are in the process of switching and that in part is why there is a lot of angst among the upper SES GOP supporters. Everyone they 'know' wants to vote Dems because the GOP is the uncool party socially speaking. Those not on welfare don't have that luxury.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:49 PM (peJ7P)

311 Can't the South start something like this? Have the governors establish some sort of interstate organization to coordinate laws and establish heuristics on currency and defense, in preparation for the coming crackup.

Stay short of Federal responsibilities, until the Federal government renege on its responsibilities, at which point it takes over....
Posted by: Patrick Carroll

The South including Texas has more cohesion along with the economic base to do that than some other places . My best guess of what will happen, is substantial disorder centered on the 2024 election including its aftermath.

Whether it will descend into assassinations, widespread terrorism and riots, etc. nationally versus regionally in blue areas is another question and whether the current political regime will continue to exist is unpredictable.

Additional factors include foreign ones like China-Taiwan, implosion in Ukraine, Israel-Iran-Hezbollah, and so on.

Posted by: whig at April 30, 2024 02:53 PM (peJ7P)

312 @310 You talk like a sociologist, you think like a sociologist, and you are going to be governed like a sociologist. If you could just learn to spell "predominantly," you might break free of all that.

Something in your adenoids.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 30, 2024 03:02 PM (zdLoL)

313 Trump comes out of jail with a beard. Election won.

Posted by: Disgusted at April 30, 2024 03:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

314 Yes, I recall the bearded-Trump photoshops looked pretty good.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 30, 2024 03:22 PM (vtyCZ)

315 I don't see how we vote our way out of this total corruption of the government.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 30, 2024 03:36 PM (mQxC9)

316 It won't. The collapse of the economy because of the debt will. Government revenues currently can't pay for the military and have to borrow.

I figure the crises will come within five years, and the entitlements will crash and burn. And there will be real social crises driven by economics, not D.C. politics.

Posted by: Mark Twang at April 30, 2024 03:52 PM (ECqyM)

317 A clear violation of the 8th Amendment Kick that stupid Judge off the Bench retire them to a cell in Leavenworth for a lifetime stay

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 30, 2024 04:44 PM (wGqjj)

Processing 0.05, elapsed 0.0614 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0177 seconds, 326 records returned.
Page size 183 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.