Gardening and Adventure Thread, May 4

Happy Saturday!

We have some great gardeners in The Horde:

I wasn't sure what would survive the slash and burn cleaning of my front garden in 2022, sent pictures of that last summer, I think. Last year I didn't see the Trillium and the iris showed a short three leaf fan. The Trillium is in a corner and had been pretty much covered over, while I think most of the Iris had been pulled out. I was surprised to see an actual clump of Trillium sessile in that corner! this year. It has a lot of common names but the one I know is toad trillium. The iris is a bearded iris called Cobra's Eye, and this year not only showed two fans but a multiflowered spike. I couldn't get the yellow tulip to stay bent out of the way, it's not part of the trillium!
Lirio 100

Cobra's Eye is beautiful! The Trillium is fun, and so is the tulip!

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From a niece:

Good things to come.

Critters

Hey KT,
Not sure if this is a pet thread entry or a garden thread. This is the Chuckwalla that lives in my garden. It is a girl as she is less colorful. She is particularly fond of oregano and I can find her snacking on it most mornings. She is very friendly and doesn't run away when I am out near her.

WeeKreekFarmGirl

I'm guessing that she may surprise you some mornings.

I had no idea that they ate oregano.

Why you don't leave your ladders outside

K.T.,
I don't usually read the gardening thread much, nor comment. (I do like to look at the pictures, sometimes, to relax me.) But I had the following encounter today...
I went outside to do some measurements so I could buy slats for the section of fence I have to replace. I headed back inside, right past the ladder I have left outside all winter (with one or two forays inside to get into the attic). I know I shouldn't leave ladders outside for security reasons, but... excuses. I then realized I needed another measurement and went back out the back door with tape measure in hand.
And *flutter* with an angry tweet caused me to turn my head as the robin burst from the ladder area. And I saw it. The birds had built a nest right between the rungs. I quickly grabbed my phone and took a couple of pictures. I don't have a selfie stick, so I couldn't get a good angle without getting much too close to the nest for my comfort. But they built a cozy little nest right about chest height, and there are at least two eggs in there, as you can see from the pics.

So, all projects that require that ladder are off the to-do list until at least the end of May. I also ordered a game/trail camera, which I am going to install on a tree across the way, and hopefully be in time to get some egg-cracking and some baby birds.

This goes along with the cardinals who make their nest (some years, anyway) in the massive rose bushes (actual bushes) in front of my living room window. Looks like I'm going to be building some bird houses/nesting shelves in the near future.

GWB
(most commonly on the Gun Thread)

What a great story!

Small Wildlife. Never mind that they look like little snakes. These are fun, and they turn into beautiful butterflies:

Spicebush Swallowtail caterpillars

pic.twitter.com/v1TDOhWHDw
— Science girl (@gunsnrosesgirl3) April 29, 2024

Adventure

Hi KT:
We live in Maricopa County AZ, and my mom wanted an orchid tree, anacacho, or Bauhinia lunarioides, native to Texas and northern Mexico. They grow here just fine, though. We looked everywhere in AZ and couldn't find one, except for a couple of 36 inch boxed ones that were $3,200 each and wouldn't fit in our small front yard anyway.
So I asked my brother who drives a truck cross country if he would be going through Texas anytime soon. He got back to me a couple of days later and said he would be coming across the I-10 and if I could find one along the way, he would stop in and pick it up. The hunt was on; I researched and contacted every potential small town nursery from Houston to San Antonio and out to Las Cruces, along his route. One contacted me to say that they were out, but gave me a suggestion for one east of Houston, so I called them. They had two, and I told them the story, paid over the phone, and my brother picked it up the next morning. Here it is in his little space where he keeps stuff in storage on its way to our house for mom's front yard garden.
Nan in AZ

Wow! What a project!

Here's part of a profile from the University of Arizona:

If you are looking for an unarmed, small tree that can be tucked into a corner of a patio or courtyard or nestled up close to a house without damaging the foundation, investigate using Bauhinia lunarioides the Chihuahuan Orchid Tree. As winter turns to spring, clusters of small, white or rarely pink, orchid-like flowers start to dot this tree with their presence, drawing in swarms of butterflies to sip the sweet nectar. Individual flowers are not long-lived, but there are 6 to 10 flowers produced, stretching out the flower season for most of spring.

Looks like a great choice for your Mom's yard!

This plant's sterile, tender cousin, the Hong Kong Orchid Tree, is a symbol of Hong Kong. It grows in parts of Southern California, Florida and a few other places in the Southeast.

Gardens of The Horde

This nice osteosperum from 40 Miles North kinda balances out the great iris at the top of the post, I think.

Anything going on in your garden?

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, April 27

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:23 PM

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1 foist?

Posted by: anachronda at May 04, 2024 01:28 PM (edU/H)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 01:32 PM (T4tVD)

3 Great pictures and stories today.

Thanks KT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:32 PM (psNWM)

4 I had no idea that they ate oregano.

Try planting Cilatro; it might taste like soap to them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

5 Busy morning--planted nine tomato plants in 5-gal pots. Two Black Cherry, three Petit Chocolat, and four Texas Wild. Big cages --they will need them!

Last week I planted three Tiny Tim's in smaller pots, and four bell peppers which will sit in my front border for better sun. (Tomatoes in back.) Also have a pot each of rosemary, basil, golden lemon thyme, and mint.

My dad would be pleased. I only got into my little efforts a few years ago, all my life had no interest at all. But he loved gardening, and so did his father--and HIS father was head gardener at a large estate in Devon, near Exeter, back in the late 1800's. Sometimes I can feel them watching as I putter

Posted by: skywch at May 04, 2024 01:37 PM (uqhmb)

6 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Almost done here, long way to get home.
Been sifting compost from 2021, have better than 1 cart to go.

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:38 PM (3xsh4)

7 The 1/3 acre of weeds was dragged today, bare soil now. It looks great.
Still more to do; but the rest has pea gravel on it so we can't use a drag on it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:38 PM (psNWM)

8 Spicebush Swallowtail caterpillars

My what big (fake) eyes you have...Look like some sort of Pixar-generated creatures.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

9 Put some jojoba seeds in a ziplock wrapped in a moist paper towel to see if they'll sprout.
Crossing my fingers as I'd like to plant them were we took out the dead or almost dead oleander. The last owners broke the watering system so it was 330 ft of sticks.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:41 PM (psNWM)

10 Blackberries are producing a decent amount of fruit, will be ready in about a month. I thinned it out and it's already producing canes for next-year's fruit.

Pecan tree has it's flowers. Crows will probably get all the nuts again this year ( the bastards! ).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

11 9 Put some jojoba seeds in a ziplock wrapped in a moist paper towel to see if they'll sprout.
Crossing my fingers as I'd like to plant them were we took out the dead or almost dead oleander. The last owners broke the watering system so it was 330 ft of sticks.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:41 PM (psNWM)

Oleanders are poisonous; recall seeing bees around the oleander flowers at my Dad's place and seeing a few acting punch-drunk. Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

12 I have a banger crop of dandelions. It's spectacular.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:45 PM (Q4IgG)

13 Also--saw the first cicadas today (I'm in TN). Covered my little currant bush with insect netting, but have still seen several hovering around it. Too bad, ladies--go lay your eggs somewhere else.

Posted by: skywch at May 04, 2024 01:47 PM (uqhmb)

14 The peonies are exploding with lots of blooms, and my wife is cutting and putting them around the house in vases and goldfish bowls. Its nice to have the smell of fresh cut flowers in the house.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 04, 2024 01:47 PM (d9Cw3)

15 The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (3xsh4)

16 12 I have a banger crop of dandelions. It's spectacular.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:45 PM (Q4IgG)

Heh. I have all sorts of tiny flowers (yellow, purple) in my front yard. Yeah, they're weeds.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (ynpvh)

17 15 The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (3xsh4)

His singing is okay.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

18 The idiom in this part of the country is "putting things up" not "putting things by."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:51 PM (RIvkX)

19 Not sure will get home by Monday morning

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (3xsh4)

20 What a beautiful iris up top! Love that color. I have some trillium in my garden also, it's one of my favorite wildflowers. I rescued mine from the yard of a vacant house where the garden had been left to go to seed, it's persisted ever since.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (R4z5M)

21 Those Robbin eggs wouldn't make much of an omlet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

22 Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.
Posted by: jim

See Roman soldiers and honey from Rhododendron:
"In 65 B.C.E., during a war against King Mithradates of Pontus, Pompey and his troops traveled through the same area where Xenophon's army had eaten the mad honey and the soldiers happily dined on tantalizing trap honeycombs their enemies placed along their route. One thousand Roman soldiers were ambushed and killed after being rendered inert by the toxic honey."
https://is.gd/GsMcSi

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (fh5qa)

23 Bought a bunch of dahlia bulbs for my wife's cutting garden and when I went to plant them last week i was surprised to see some of last year's dahlias starting to emerge. (I'm too lazy to dig them up - I just buy new bulbs each year.) We got down below 10 degrees and had an extended hard freeze last winter, so I didn't expect any to come back up. And even if it doesn't freeze hard, I assume the bulbs normally n just rot in the wet winter soil.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (d9Cw3)

24 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

Not a fan.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)

25 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

Not a fan.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Doves have entered the thread.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

26 Those caterpillars are cute as bugs!

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (o2ZRX)

27 I sowed some seeds two weeks ago in hope of attracting more hummingbirds but so far no sprouts are sighted. Scarlet runner beans and scarlet zinnia...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:58 PM (RIvkX)

28 Take a look at the first couple of responses to the spicebush caterpillar tweet. Exotic stuff. There's even a mechanical caterpillar toy that maybe kids could make.

Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:04 PM (rrtZS)

29 Not sure will get home by Monday morning
Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (3xsh4)

!

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (T4tVD)

30 22 Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.
Posted by: jim

See Roman soldiers and honey from Rhododendron:
"In 65 B.C.E., during a war against King Mithradates of Pontus, Pompey and his troops traveled through the same area where Xenophon's army had eaten the mad honey and the soldiers happily dined on tantalizing trap honeycombs their enemies placed along their route. One thousand Roman soldiers were ambushed and killed after being rendered inert by the toxic honey."
https://is.gd/GsMcSi

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (fh5qa)

Read article in Nat. Geo. many years ago about the natives of Papua New Guinea and honey. Before they eat it, they would put a single drop on their tongues to see if it made their tongue tingle; if it did, they'd burn it, as the bees had been collecting nectar from toxic plants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

31 25 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

Not a fan.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Doves have entered the thread.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

They kept trying to make nests in the eave above my front door. In the end, I blocked off that area. Wouldn't mind it except the nests are so messy and foul up that area.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

32 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

From what I understand only certain species of bees can collect the nectar of toxic plants without killing or disabling them. . I believe the honeybees we are familiar with are not one of them .

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

33 I grew up in the Rockies, where ornamental gardens are for the rich.

Now that I'm in a mountain range where things grow, I have an experimental garden going. Perennials and Annuals scattered around the yard, in different light and soil. Once I see how they grow in each place, I'll design something around it.

I'm thinking about a tiny "imperial garden" built around a birdbath instead of a big fountain.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 02:23 PM (0FoWg)

34 Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 02:23 PM

Sounds fun.

Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:24 PM (rrtZS)

35
I'm taking an educated guess as to climate change - and it is changing, because it always does - and planted early. Everything looks good as soil temp is above 60 degrees F. Normal last freeze in this area is probably mid-May, but everything looks good on the 10 day forecast.

As a bunch of grey haired scientists (the best kind) explained on a recent video I watched, high temperatures aren't really getting higher - in fact they don't hang around as long as previously, but low temperatures are moving higher. In other words the climate is in a moderating mode. YMMV. But here in my climate zone I can take a slight risk for enhanced yield.

Some years it has taken until August for my first ripened tomato. Last year it was early July. Hoping for the same or better this year.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 02:24 PM (RKVpM)

36 I looked up Lirio's Trillium. The "sessile" thing is because the flowers have no stem.

I think the "toad" comes from the idea that the plant provides nice shade for toads.

Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:26 PM (rrtZS)

37 but low temperatures are moving higher. In other words the climate is in a moderating mode. YMMV.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

I really don't want to hear about higher lows, please and thank you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 02:28 PM (fh5qa)

38 I take out the winter/summer clothes at the same time every year.

Yet somehow each year it is the hottest one on record AND snow will be a thing of the past...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 02:32 PM (ibTVg)

39 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

Not a fan.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Doves have entered the thread.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

They kept trying to make nests in the eave above my front door. In the end, I blocked off that area. Wouldn't mind it except the nests are so messy and foul up that area.
Posted by: jim
----

House Wrens. I found a nest, with eggs in it, in the engine compartment of my truck. It is driven daily.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:35 PM (XeU6L)

40
I really don't want to hear about higher lows, please and thank you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 02:28 PM

Here in the SE corner of Pennsylvania it is the difference between heavy, heart attack inducing snow shoveling in winter, or rain.

:: Bites lip like Bill Clinton ::

I feel your pain.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 02:35 PM (RKVpM)

41 From Boise area: Lows 32-53 F, highs 50-68. Wind advisories last Mon. and today.

Under puttering, Husband removed the shower valve cartridge and put in a new one. That took 2 new tools, breaking the old cartridge, and soaking lots of shower trim in straight vinegar. But it looks and works so well now!! He also bought us new carbon monoxide detectors - old ones probably had been here since house was first up for sale. And he had to repair another irrigation sprayer.

Sycamores are leafing out - most maples already leafed out - oak has lots of tassels but no leaves yet. We bought a new 'Autumn Blaze' maple and planted it on our south side.

I appear to suck at growing lettuce - no sprouts at all from 2 tries. Maybe I should grow it in the mini-greenhouse. That currently holds all plant starts, but after a short trailer trip next week, it's time to plant out everything, and the squashes/corn seeds too.

Remember, when you bury a dead body, plant endangered plants over it so it's illegal to dig it up. Follow me for more gardening tips!

Posted by: Pat* at May 04, 2024 02:39 PM (6afOC)

42 32 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

From what I understand only certain species of bees can collect the nectar of toxic plants without killing or disabling them. . I believe the honeybees we are familiar with are not one of them .
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

http://tiny.cc/r1qxxz

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

43 But they built a cozy little nest right about chest height, and there are at least two eggs in there, as you can see from the pics.

I built a 12x16 pantry room off the back of my house. I extended the roof 3 feet past the outside wall so I could hang tools on it. Almost every year I find a Robin's nest somewhere amongst the tools. A couple days ago I went to grab the post hole digger to put in some corner posts on a fence build. Mama Robin had already claimed it. Bought a new PH digger yesterday.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 02:42 PM (i7KoL)

44 I always thought toad trillium was because of its mottled leaves, LOL. There have a couple of other surprises too. There is a patch of sweet woodruff appearing this year, I actually don't remember planting (I have been in this house for a long time). I had a small patch of Italian arum that always stayed a small patch until this year. It seems to be trying to take over.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 04, 2024 02:46 PM (I5U35)

45 We have a yew out back. It's not huge, but during a fairly strong windstorm a couple weeks ago 4 bird nests got blown out of it.

No idea if it was 4 of the same species or 4 different or what. At least one nest looked different, but they were all pretty beat up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 02:46 PM (Q4IgG)

46 Mild sunny weather here, so I added Indigo Sun, Aunt Ruby's German Green, and Paul Robeson tomato plants to my garden plot. Fingers crossed we don't get frost later on, but if it's forecast I'll deploy the cloches.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 02:47 PM (FkUwd)

47 Mad Honey would be a great name for a psychedelic rock band.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 02:48 PM (FkUwd)

48 Indigo Sun, Aunt Ruby's German Green, and Paul Robeson tomato plants to my garden plot...
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[imagines hearing mellifluous voice in the garden singing 'Old Man River' on warm summer nights]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:53 PM (XeU6L)

49 I suppose the Robeson tomatoes ought to be planted in the Lucky Old Sun.

My yews were deathtraps for songbirds, because they seemed so attractive for nesting but were a happy hunting ground for semi-feral cats. Many was the night we heard wild screeching and yowls from deep inside the foliage as Great Nature took her course.

The native thorny hawthorn is taught as being a good nest for little birds because the cats have to work the area slowly and make a lot of snaps and pops, giving the bird an advantage. Russian olive, an otherwise attractive bush, has invaded the hawthorn's turf and the ecology guys just hate that.

I have successfully moved robins' nests that were just plain in the wrong place. They're resentful, but usually work with it. I probably would make sacrifices to protect, say, a bluebird or purple martin, but we're just not short of robins here.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 04, 2024 02:54 PM (zdLoL)

50 That Robin story brought back a great memory. We used to store a garden hose rolled on a hook underneath the back deck. Robins decided it was a great place to build a nest even with all the activity around and above. We just bought another hose so we didn't have to disturb it until the birdies were gone. Moved the hose though. Next year we got a giant hornets nest instead. Should have left the birds.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 02:56 PM (t/2Uw)

51 Long trip home
But the weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:09 PM (fwDg9)

52 That sounds like song lyrics, Skip.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 03:10 PM (FkUwd)

53 Small Farmer's Journal has a good article on making sunflower oil. I knew about ising a Corona mill to crack seeds. You can also get oil that way but there's a lot of waste. They mention a Piteba press, that heats the seeds to increase oil flow. Amazon has it. It's not cheap but might be worth looking into.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 03:10 PM (yeEu9)

54 Safe travels Skip !

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:12 PM (T4tVD)

55
My wife, who never gets sick, came down with something respiratory related. It lasted for 10 days. I've had about five consecutive days of extremely runny nose, slight fever, a productive cough. Oximeter measurement a little lower then normal. I also never get sick.

If this is the so-called bird flu it may be something to those in lousy shape. Our neighbors (upwind) have chickens and some have died. Just an FYI to stock up on boxes of tissue. I was going through a box a day.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 03:14 PM (RKVpM)

56 We have a large sycamore right next to the house, the seed bombs are bad in a storm

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:15 PM (fwDg9)

57 Long trip home is done, traffic and rain didn't help

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

58 Yes that's the same stuff I have. Kinda came out of the blue. My dog doesn't understand that I'm not up for fun today.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 03:22 PM (yeEu9)

59 I dug a lilac bush out of my garden plot this week. I love lilac, but it's in a bad spot, and it's old and always gets devoured by morning glory.

I replanted about a dozen of its smaller shoots to the fenceline between houses, so we'll have a nice lilac hedge.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 03:23 PM (OX9vb)

60 Raining lightly here.

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:26 PM (T4tVD)

61 That desert orchid amazes me. The species that grow near the coast are beautiful, but I didn't know that there was a desert-adapted one.

Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:34 PM (rrtZS)

62 I'll deploy the cloches.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

I had never hear of cloches.
We put a circle of 1/2" chicken wire around plants to keep the critters from eating them.
It stops all but the diggers and climbers.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 03:48 PM (gVydF)

63 I knew about ising a Corona mill to crack seeds. You can also get oil that way but there's a lot of waste. They mention a Piteba press, that heats the seeds to increase oil flow. Amazon has it. It's not cheap but might be worth looking into.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Brother in law welded a small box out of steel, with a slit at the bottom of one side.
He puts jojoba seeds in and gets oil out of the bottom. The oil looks just like the stuff they sell for $1.25/oz.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 03:55 PM (gVydF)

64 I have a trail camera up and (I hope) pointed at the nest now. We'll see what it catches.

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 04:47 PM (1zxQh)

65 Also, some great gardeners in the Horde.

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 04:48 PM (1zxQh)

66 Pat* I cracked up at your tip!

A conspiracy-minded pal convinced me and another gardener that seeds from store-bought foods probably wouldn't germinate because Big Farm sterilize most of them. So put 4-5 seeds per cell.'

Oh, dear. We each transplanted more than 50 seedlings into bigger containers and composted the rest.

I don't think they'll all fit in the vertical planter pots.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 05:54 PM (bLaz5)

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